[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]
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          GOOD EVENING. AND WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER NINTH WORK SESSION OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. 
          MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. PRESENT. MAYOR HOLIDAY AND WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS. REALLY QUICKLY, WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS. WE'LL DO AN UPDATE ON POLICING, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE NUMBER FOR DISCUSSION ON BANK OWNED HOUSING AND EAST POINT. OKAY, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND AN UPDATE ON POLICING. OKAY ALRIGHT. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, THAT IS ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, NON-OWNER OCCUPIED CERTIFICATION. LET IT STAY. OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          ZIEGLER. LITTER CLEANUP PLAN THAT CAN STAY UP. AND I HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT. BUDGET CALENDAR, THAT CAN MOVE, TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION IN OCTOBER. OCTOBER. WORK SESSION NUMBER NINE, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. I THINK THAT I CAN EMAIL THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ASK HER FOR SOME MORE INFORMATION. INFORMATION ON THAT TO SEE IF THAT CAN BE DONE. THAT'S THE EMAIL. SO YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION OR YOU JUST WANT TO REMOVE THE, YEAH. NUMBER TEN, ITEM NUMBER 11. OH, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. ITEM NUMBER 12. I THINK GOES WITH, POSSIBLY MR. BROWN, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON ITEM FOUR? 18 FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY SOFTWARE. WE DO. MADAM MAYOR, SO 12 AND 18 GO TOGETHER. CREDIT CARD POLICY? YES WE NEED 14. 
          THERE'LL BE A PRESENTATION. 15. YES 16. FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR BOND CLOSING. I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK 16 AND 17 GO TOGETHER. 18 WE JUST MENTIONED AND 19, WE WILL GO TO THE AGENDA ITEMS FROM STAFF. ANY OBJECTION, COUNCIL DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION. I SEE MY REPRESENTATIVES HERE. SO WE WILL MAKE NUMBER 20. THE THIRD PRESENTATION OR WE'LL TAKE THAT AFTER THE FIRST TWO PRESENTATIONS. 21, ANY OBJECTION TO THIS GOING TO CONSENT? THIS IS BASED ON THE RECENT FIRE. ITEM NUMBER 22. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 23. YEAH. I'M GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE WORK THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING. THIS IS FROM FINANCE. 
          SO, NUMBER 23, LET ME ASK THIS BEFORE I KEEP GOING. I KNOW WE HAVE PRESENTERS ON ITEM NUMBER 20. DO WE HAVE ANY NON STAFF PRESENTERS ON ANY OTHER ITEMS, MR. BROWN? YES MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE ON ON ITEMS NUMBER 16. OKAY. AND. WHAT ABOUT 17? YES. ITEM 16. ITEM 16 AND 17. OKAY. 
          ANY OTHERS? THAT'S ALL THAT I SEE FOR NOW. MADAM MAYOR, ON THE FIXED ASSET. YES YES. ITEM 34. 
          ITEM 34. OKAY. AND KIMBERLY SAID 35, 34 AND 35. IS 80 MP. SO, WELL. 37. ANY OTHER ITEMS BEFORE I GO THROUGH ASKING FOR CONSENT? AND IF YOU'RE A NON STAFF PERSON, I HAVEN'T CALLED YOUR ITEM. RAISE YOUR HAND SO I CAN MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE THAT BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. ITEM 23 WILL DISCUSS 24. PAYING. DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FOR THIS FOR 24 TO GIVE US AN UPDATE? NO, 
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MA'AM. WE CAN DISCUSS IT. OKAY. 25. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? THIS IS FROM CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING FUNDS. THANKS TO OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS. THIS PUBLIC WORKS, ITEM NUMBER 26. 
          THIS IS FOR WASHINGTON ROAD NORTH COMMERCE CENTER PARKWAY RESURFACING, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE SELECTING THESE PROJECTS IN THE ORDER OF PRIORITY, SO MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE NEXT ONE. 27 WE CAN DISCUSS. AND 26 I WANT TO DISCUSS. SO 27 DISCUSS. 2829. 
          OKAY. 29 EMERGENCY SEWER LINE REPLACEMENT. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 30. 31. ANY OBJECTION? EMERGENCY SEWER. HE WANTS TO DISCUSS. EMERGENCY SEWER. OKAY. SO, ASSUMING YOU WANT TO DISCUSS 29 AND 30 AS WELL. 27. 28. 31. 27. 28 AND 31. OKAY. 32. IS WHERE IT WAS APPROVED ON APRIL 17TH, 2023. WE NEED TO DISCUSS 32. YES LIKE MADAM MAYOR FOR 33. WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE THAT. SO IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO 34? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR IT TO GO IN OCTOBER? WORK SESSION? NO, MA'AM. JUST REMOVE ALTOGETHER. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. 36 IS A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOL LICENSE AT 3630 MARKETPLACE BOULEVARD. WE'RE HAVING A WET 34 AND 35 HAVE PRESENTERS. WE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY'LL BE PRESENTING 36. THIS IS. ALCOHOL LICENSE. ONLY HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE ALCOHOL LICENSE? YES. SO THIS SHOULD BE PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED. INDICATED ON HERE, MADAM. CITY CLERK. ANY ISSUE WITH THIS GOING STRAIGHT TO THE AGENDA? DOES ANYONE WANT TO DISCUSS THIS TONIGHT? THAT'S AGENDA. AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT 37 AND 38. SO, MADAM MAYO, I'M SORRY. YES, COUNCILMAN. BUTLER. WE SHOULD MOVE ADAM 19 TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF IT'S GOING TO BE PERSONNEL DISCUSSION. YEAH, THAT'S NOT PERSONNEL DISCUSSION. THAT'S ABOUT A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER THAT WE DON'T HAVE. AND SO, THAT'LL BE A DISCUSSION THAT WE'LL HAVE ON THE RECORD TONIGH, MADAM CITY CLERK. I HAVE ITEMS NINE AND TEN GOING TO THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION. ITEMS 21, 22, 25, 29, 30. GOING TO CONSENT. ITEM 33 REMOVED, AND ITEM 36, SIX GOING TO THE AGEND. 36, IT HAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND NO ONE HAD QUESTIONS TONIGHT. FOR THE, OUTSIDE PRESENTERS, I HAD ALREADY MENTIONED THAT 20 WOULD GO AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS AND THEN HAVE 16, 17, 34 AND 35, 16, 17. WILL 
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BE TAKEN AFTER, THE PRESENTATIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLI LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM 
          [II. PRESENTATIONS]
PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR, FIRST I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO MISTER CINEMA FOR THE MIX UP ON THE AGENDA AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, WE HAD DISCUSSED HAVING THIS PRESENTATION THEN, AND IT SORT OF FELL THROUGH, SO APOLOGIES, BUT I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MISTER CINEMA UP TO DO THE PRESENTATION THAT WE PROMISED HIM WEEKS AGO. ONE, TWO. ONE, TWO. ALRIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MAKING TIME FOR ME TO PRESENT TODAY, NOT ONLY, AS THE, THE FORMER URBAN AG DIRECTOR, BUT ALSO AS A CONSTITUENT WITH THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COMMISSION, TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION REALLY IS BOTH, OF COURSE, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE HOLISTIC, BODY HERE. BUT ALSO WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW FACES WHO MAY HAVE NOT HAD A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE DID BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2020 TO 2023, AS WELL AS EVEN ONGOING, THAT INCLUDING, OF COURSE, OUR CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER. SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE A CONCISE EFFORT TO REALLY CAPTURE, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. SO THAT IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO BE HELD WITH THIS BODY, WE HAVE A REAL CONCISE WAY TO CAPTURE THAT. JUST AS A QUICK BACKDROP, AGAIN, IN 2021, OUR CITY BECAME THE FIRST METRO ATLANTIC CITY TO ACTUALLY ADOPT A CITY AGRICULTURE PLAN, WHICH WAS BASED OFF OF THE BACKS OF EFFORTS OF CITIZENS THAT SHOWED INTEREST IN WANTING TO SEE OUR LOCAL FOOD SYSTEM BE OPTIMIZED IN A FUNCTIONAL MANNER, VERSUS IN THE SILOS THAT DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS WERE PLAYING AT THAT TIME. THAT INCLUDES, AGAIN, FOOD DISTRIBUTION, CONSUMPTION, PRODUCTION AND EVEN EDUCATION. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY ALL THOSE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, PUT THEM INTO A PLAN, AND PROPOSE HOW THEY COULD OPERATE WITH EACH OTHER, THAT EVENTUALLY LED TO THE ACTUAL APPOINTMENT OF THE URBAN AG MANAGER, THAT WAS A POSITION THAT WAS FUNDED BY WAY OF A GRANT FROM THE USDA THAT WAS MANAGED BY A NONPROFIT KNOWN AS FOOD WELL ALLIANCE, AND IT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY AS A SUB AWARD. AND THAT'S WHAT PAID FOR THAT POSITION, AND SO IT ALLOWED US TO FOCUS ON FIVE KEY FOCUS AREAS. THOSE AREAS WERE IMPROVING EQUITABLE ACCESS TO HEALTHY LOCAL FOOD, SUPPORTING LOCAL PRODUCERS SUCH AS FARMERS AND GARDENERS, CULTIVATING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES, BRANDING EASTPOINTE AS A LOCAL FOOD DESTINATION AND ESTABLISHING THE ROLE OF OUR MUNICIPALITY IN DOING SO, THAT PARTICULAR EFFORT LED TO ACTUALLY MORE FUNDING THAT WAS ACQUIRED, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET A USDA GRANT THAT WAS ABLE TO BE PUT IN PLACE AND SUPPORT A CENTRALIZED COMPOSTING PROGRAM IN WHICH RESIDENTS CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THEIR COMPOST TO THE CITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR, AND THEN THAT BE PROCESSED TO ELIMINATE FOOD WASTE IN OUR MUNICIPALITY AND THEN PROVIDE IT BACK TO THE RESIDENTS AS A FINISHED MEDIUM FOR PLANTING FOOD IN. WELL, THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THE CURRENT ONE THAT IS REMAINING DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE GRANT THAT DID FUND THE URBAN AG MANAGER HAS EXPIRED. SO NOT ONLY IS THERE NOT A LIAISON ON BEHALF OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT THERE'S NO OPERATIONAL FUNDING KEEPING IT GOING AND THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COMMISSION IS PROPOSING THAT WE KEEP IT GOING, BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF VICTORIES THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR YOU ALL WITH THIS EVENING. WE HAVE PRESENTED THEM TO YOU ALL SEVERAL TIMES, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, DESPITE EVEN THIS PARTICULAR POSITION, NOT CURRENTLY BEING IN PLACE, THE WORK CONTINUES AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE IT BE OPTIMIZED THROUGH YOU ALL'S APPROVAL AND EFFORT. SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, WE MORE OR LESS, IN A GENERAL SENSE, DISCUSSED WHAT WE FELT WERE SOME OF THE NEEDS OF THIS POSITION, AND MANY OF THOSE DOCUMENTS WE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL WERE PROBABLY NOT THE MOST CONCISE. 
          SO WE OWN UP TO THAT. AND SO WE WANTED TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO YOU ALL THAT'S A LITTLE MORE DIGESTIBLE. BUT ALSO EVEN POINTED NOT ONLY TO WHERE SPECIFIC DOLLARS CAN GO, BUT THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE CAN GO FROM START TO FINISH AND REALLY TAKE THIS POSITION THROUGH THE ROOF, IF YOU WILL. AND SO THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES ARE THE ACTUAL SALARY FOR AN URBAN AGRICULTURAL DIRECTOR. THE CAPACITY 
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DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ACTUALLY GO SOLICIT MORE FUNDING, BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE POSITION AND MAY NOT INNATELY BE WITHIN THE BUDGET OF THE CITY, BUT WE FEEL THAT A CAPACITY DEVELOPMENT COULD BE ACHIEVED. ALSO, PROVIDING SOME URBAN AGRICULTURE SEED GRANTS TO DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, AS WELL AS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. AND I JUST WANT TO SPEND THE LAST FEW MINUTES TALKING ABOUT HOW THOSE CATEGORIES BREAK DOWN INTO MORE FINE DETAIL. AND SO THE URBAN AGRICULTURE DIRECTOR WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A SALARY THAT WOULD COVER THEIR EFFORTS OF DIRECTING, COORDINATING, FACILITATING AND IMPLEMENTING ALL INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR POSITION. THE CAPACITY DEVELOPMENT FUND WOULD PROVIDE THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY SEEK SOME MORE FUNDING, PRIMARILY FEDERAL, BECAUSE THE USDA IS OUR LARGEST FEDERAL PROGRAM OUTSIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. AND SO THERE ARE LITERALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND WE FEEL THAT OUR CITY HAS THE PROFILE TO ACQUIRE THOSE, ALSO, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE AGRICULTURAL SEED GRANTS, THERE ARE THREE SUBCATEGORIES UNDER THAT NUMBER, ONE BEING COMMUNITY LED AND CENTERED FOOD DISTRIBUTION WOULD BE SUPPORTED, LOCAL FOOD PRODUCTION WOULD BE SUPPORTED, AND RESIDENTIAL GARDEN INSTALLATIONS AND ORCHARD PLANTINGS WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTED UNDER THOSE AGRICULTURAL SEED GRANTS. AND THEN FINALLY BUSINESS OPERATION OR EXCUSE ME, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES. THAT COULD BE TO THE TUNE OF HAVING CONTRACTORS DO TECHNICAL TRAINING WORKSHOPS FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING EITHER INTO THE BUSINESS OF LOCAL AGRICULTURE OR SIMPLY HOMESTEADING. ALSO PROVIDING SITE DESIGN SERVICES TO THESE RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY FOOD SECURITY EDUCATION AS WELL. AND SO, IN CLOSING OUT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUST THE TIMELINE RELATED TO ALL OF THESE FIVE CATEGORIES. ULTIMATELY FROM START TO FINISH, WE ARE ENVISIONING THAT FOR OVER THE COURSE OF THE 12 MONTH PERIOD FOR THE URBAN AG DIRECTOR, THE CAPACITY DEVELOPMENT CAMPAIGN, AS WELL AS ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF AT LEAST BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF GETTING THESE ROLES ESTABLISHED. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THAT CAPACITY DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, THAT CONTRACTOR AND OR CITY STAFF MEMBER COULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WOULD REALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ONGOING FOCUS ON LOOKING FOR THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR AN URBAN AG DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO JUST AT LEAST THE IDEA THAT THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, AND THEY DID AT LEAST SEE SOME VALUE IN BEING ABLE TO, HOUSE A POSITION LIKE THIS. BUT OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF INTRICATE DETAIL. AND I BY NO MEANS AM AN EXPERT IN THAT AREA. SO I'M HERE TO JUST SERVE AS SUPPORT FOR YOU ALL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THE IDEA TO THINK THROUGH, BASED UPON MY EXPERIENCE IN THAT POSITION, BUT ALSO HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY DOING THE SAME THING. AND I WANT TO CLOSE WITH SAYING THIS, THIS PARTICULAR POSITION IS NOT ONE, AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT IT IS AN ADVOCATION OF ME GETTING THE POSITION. I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT FOR ME, I SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE URBAN AG DIRECTOR BEING SOMEONE THAT HAS SKILLS THAT ARE RELATED TO THIS FOOD SPACE, BUT ADMITTEDLY, WE JUST WANT TO SEE SOMEBODY QUALIFIED GET THE JOB BECAUSE WE KNOW THE VALUE OF THIS TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND THEY'VE ASKED ALL OF US LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COMMISSION MEMBERS, MYSELF, WHAT'S NEXT, WHAT'S COMING, WHERE ARE WE AT? AND WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM SOME CONCRETE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS. SO, THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF MY PRESENTATION FOR THE EVENING. BUT I DO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR TAKING TIME TO JUST HEAR FROM US, THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS SIMPLY AN INFOGRAPHIC, HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU ALL, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT EVEN ITS DETAIL, THEN WE ARE HERE TO HELP AND SUPPORT YOU ALL IN THINKING THROUGH AND MAKING THE DECISION ON THIS MATTER, SO THANK YOU. 
          AND OF COURSE, I AM OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS POTENTIALLY THIS EVENING AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES PRESENTATION, COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON. ONE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU. AND IN THINKING ABOUT THESE SORT OF OPTIONAL POSITIONS THAT YOU DESCRIBED, TO KIND OF TAKE THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS, WHAT KIND OF BUDGET HAD YOU OR HAD YOUR DISCUSSIONS KIND OF LED TO? SURE. SO WHAT WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO TALLY AGAIN WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WITH ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS, IS THAT WE PROPOSE THAT A BUDGET LIKE THIS COULD RUN TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $425,000, AND THAT WOULD COVER SALARY AND PROGRAMING. AND SO 
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THIS JUST GIVES US A POINT OF DISCUSSION TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT FIGURE IS REALISTIC OR NOT FOR OUR CITY, BUT WE USED INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GATHERED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE NEARBY AREA TO COME UP WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROPOSAL. SORRY WHAT WOULD BE THE. BOTTOM RANGE OF JUST THE ONE SALARY POSITION? SURE SO THE SALARY POSITION AS WE HAVE LISTED HERE IS 75,000, AGAIN, SPEAKING VERY SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SALARY OF THE URBAN AG DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTA. WE ALSO UTILIZE WHAT THE HOURLY RATE WAS BASED UPON THE GRANT THAT WE HAD THROUGH THE USDA FOR THE POSITION THAT I HELD, AND WHEN YOU BROKE IT DOWN AT AN HOURLY RATE, IT ACTUALLY CAME OUT TO BE $70,000 A YEAR. SO SOMEWHERE WITHIN THAT TUNE OF 70 TO 75 K WOULD BE THE RANGE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MISS JESSI. I'M GONNA, DIRECT THIS QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. AND THE LAST DISCUSSION, IT WAS THAT STAFF WAS GOING TO BE, I DON'T KNOW, SPEAKING WITH MR. CINEMA OR THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COMMISSION ABOUT WHETHER AND MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONTRACTED POSITION OR AN ACTUAL CITY EMPLOYEE POSITION, AND BASED UPON THOSE DISCUSSIONS, INFORMATION WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO US FOR INCLUSION IN THE FY 25 BUDGET, WHICH WE JUST APPROVED. 
          SO MY ONE QUESTION IS, AND I THINK I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS FUNDING IN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT FOR THIS POSITION. OR FOR THESE SERVICES. IF SO, HOW MUCH AND HAS STAFF GOTTEN TO A PLACE WHERE THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS SHOULD BE A CONTRACTED POSITION OR AN EMPLOYEE POSITION? MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YES, WE DID INCLUDE THAT POSITION IN THE FY 25 BUDGET AND I BELIEVE IT'S 74,000 OR 75,000 FOR THE AGRICULTURAL MANAGER. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS. ON WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE A CONTRACTED POSITION OR WHETHER IT SHOULD BE A PERMANENT POSITION, FOR THE CITY, IT COULD GO EITHER WAY, DEPENDING ON THE, PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT. AND IF THOSE PLANS OR WORK PLAN HAS BEEN ADOPTED, WE CERTAINLY CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK TONIGHT IS THE FIRST DISCUSSION REGARDING THE $400,000 PLUS PLAN, AND THEN THAT POSITION. SO IT'S BUDGETED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE STAFF. IS STAFF READY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE CONTRACTED OR AN EMPLOYEE? BECAUSE IF IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED AND A PART OF THAT OFFICE THAT IS A STAFFING, DECISION THAT WILL EITHER BE MADE THROUGH POSTING A JOB DESCRIPTION AND GETTING APPLICATIONS IN OR COMING UP WITH A SOLICITATION TO, GET PROPOSALS AND BRING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. WE'RE NOT READY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO EXPLORE IN GREATER DETAIL. AND LOOK AT THE OPTIONS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US ON AT THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION? YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          AND I THINK, THAT QUESTION MAY BE, WITH REGARDS TO IF IT'S GOING TO BE CONTRACTED OR AS AN ACTUAL EMPLOYEE, I THINK FOR THOSE WE HAVE TO ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I GUESS THE COST, BECAUSE I KNOW JUST AS A CONTRACTOR YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LIKE INSURANCE AND ALL THAT STUFF. RIGHT? SO OKAY, SO WOULD THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AT A IS THAT ANOTHER DISCUSSION TO HAVE SOME OTHER. WELL, I THINK IF THEY I DON'T KNOW HOW THE 75 WAS 7475 CAME UP. BUT MR. CINEMA INDICATED THAT THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT FOR AN EMPLOYEE. AND OF COURSE, AS A CONTRACTOR, GENERALLY THE YOU SAVE ABOUT 30%, RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PAYING BENEFITS. I THINK IF THEY COULD HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND THEN COME BACK TO US, IF THEY'RE RECOMMENDING 75,000 FOR AN EMPLOYEE WITH BENEFITS, THAT'S LIKE 75,000 PLUS 30% WITH THE BENEFITS, RIGHT? OKAY. AND SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW. YEAH, THEY WOULD, HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO BRING US BACK THAT AND RECOMMENDATION OCTOBER. OKAY. 
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AND THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN ACTUAL EMPLOYEE, THAT'S THE JOB POSTING. AND THEN IF IT'S GOING TO BE A SOLICITATION THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THE SOLICITATION. 
          OKAY THANK YOU. I YIELD. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IF, WE EXPLORE THE SOLICITATION ROUTE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET THAT WAS MENTIONED, THE, $425,000. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD DISCUSS SEPARATELY OR HOW DO YOU WANT US TO HANDLE THAT? I MEAN, I THINK YOU CAN BRING BACK A FULL CONVERSATION. THE QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE $350,000 FROM? RIGHT, AND YOU MEAN YOU COULD IF WE HAVE A POSITION OR A CONSULTANT THAT CAN APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDS THAT COULD COVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING TO BUDGET UPFRONT OR ALLOCATE UPFRONT TO THAT DEPARTMENT TO SUPPORT THIS WORK? AND ARE THERE ALREADY, POSITIONS OR CONTRACT SERVICES ALLOCATED TO THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT THAT COULD CROSS OVER. AND MAYBE IT'S ALREADY WHATEVER THE COST IS INDICATED IN THE PROPOSAL, THE $400,000, $425,000 PROPOSAL, THERE MAY ALREADY BE STAFFING IN THE OFFICE THAT ALREADY ADDRESSES SOME OF THAT. SO I THINK IT'S LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT TO DETERMINE WHERE THE GAPS AND WHAT ARE SOME POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES. OKAY COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLAND. YEAH, JUST ONE POINT. 
          I WANTED TO RAISE ON THE DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AG, I ASKED MR. BROWN, EXCUSE ME, TO CHECK WITH FINANCE ON WHAT THAT BUDGET AMOUNT WAS AND WHAT MR. GOLDEN CAME BACK WITH WAS 74,000 PLUS BENEFITS, WHICH GAVE ME THE IMPRESSION THAT WHEN IT WAS BUDGETED, IT WAS BEING THOUGHT OF AS A, AS A, YOU KNOW, AN FTE. WELL, CITY EMPLOYEE, AND THEN I THINK TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, THE $350,000 THAT MR. CINEMA MENTIONED AS SORT OF PROGRAMING CLEARLY WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE BUDGET, BUT AS YOU SAY, IF IT'S PART OF THE CITY, THERE MAY BE SORT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED THAT MINIMIZE THAT COST. I THINK MINIMIZE THE COST AND GET US TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN START APPLYING FOR GRANTS TO LIKE, COVER SOME OF THE OTHER COSTS WITHIN THE PLAN. RIGHT? LIKE AND I KNOW MR. CINEMA CITY CINEMA, STAYS UP TO DATE AROUND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. SO IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, IF THERE ARE SOME GRANT OPPORTUNITIES COMING UP, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AS WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING FOR A PROPOSAL, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. RIGHT, AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE STAFFING WITHIN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT, AS WELL AS WHAT'S, THE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FILLED, NOT FILLED, THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE, LIKE HOW DOES THAT DOVETAIL OR, YOU KNOW, INTO THIS WORK SUCH THAT SOME OF THAT MIGHT ALREADY BE ADDITIONALLY COVERED? AND IF THE INDICATION WAS, 74 PLUS BENEFITS, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN EMPLOYEE. SO THAT MEANS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A 30% OR 75 IS THE ANOTHER 25. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 100 THAT'S THERE FOR THAT, AND IF THAT IS THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION, WHEN THEY COME BACK, WE KNOW THAT THE POSITION IS ALREADY FUNDED, AND WHETHER CONTRACTING OR WHATEVER COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU, MY QUESTION IS, 400,000. IS THAT THE AMOUNT TO OPERATE THE ECO, THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM, YEAH, IT WOULD BE OPERATIONS PLUS SALARY AND THEN AGAIN, THOSE FOUR BOTTOM CATEGORIES WITHIN THE SPREADSHEET ARE THE OPERATIONS SIDE. SO WHEN YOU ALL DID THIS PREVIOUS IT WAS 400,000. YOU GOT THAT MUCH IN GRANTS HONESTLY. OH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE OPERATED IT. YEAH THE GRANT THAT WE HAD, WHICH WAS THE REGIONAL FOOD SYSTEMS PLANNING GRANT, I WANT TO SAY THAT ONE WAS $250,000 USDA GRANT. OKAY. AND THEN THE GRANT THAT, HAS BEEN USED FOR THE COMPOSTING PROGRAM, I WANT TO SAY IS 60,000. OKAY BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU ALL GET TO THE NUMBER OF 400,000? AND, AND I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR FOR HIS, GRANTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FUNDED IT, BECAUSE WHEN WE SAY THERE ARE 
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THINGS WE CAN LEVERAGE. I'M WONDERING WHAT CAN THE CITY LEVERAGE TO GET TO THE 400,000 WHEN IT WASN'T 400,000 IN THE BEGINNING. IT WAS THE AMOUNT WAS LOWER THAN THAT. AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT, BROUGHT THIS TO COUNCIL. WHEN IT STARTED. YES MA'AM. SO YEAH THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS AND, AND LOOKING AT GRANTS AND SEE HOW CAN WE GET THAT. BUT I GUESS THE MAIN IMPORTANT PART IS GETTING SOMEBODY TO HEAD IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CONTINUES TO GO ON AND WE CONTINUE TO, DO THE THINGS THAT WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE IN PLACE TO CONTINUE TO HELP PEOPLE. YEAH. I THINK THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT WILL DEFINITELY HELP FULFILL A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS. RIGHT. 
          JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT $250,000 WAS PURELY FOR ONE PROGRAM, WHICH WAS TO BASICALLY MARKET WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING HERE IN EAST POINT. SO WE'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S ONE OF FIVE, RIGHT? DIFFERENT OPERATIONS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED. AND JUST THAT ONE YIELDED US 250 K. SO I THINK ONCE WE CAN DO A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF WHAT DO ALL THESE RESPECTIVE CATEGORIES, COME IN AT VALUE WISE, I ADMITTEDLY, I THINK AND HEAR ME OUT 425 IS LOW, COMPARED TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE THAT'S OUT THERE, I ACTUALLY MANAGED THE BEGINNING FARMER RANCHER DEVELOPMENT GRANT, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE GRANT THAT COULD TAKE CARE OF ACTIVITY NUMBER SIX, THREE THROUGH SIX. FOR A NONPROFIT KNOWN AS GEORGIA ORGANICS. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET $600,000 JUST FOR EDUCATION AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, THAT WAS IN 2015. SINCE THE JUSTICE40 INITIATIVE THROUGH THE US GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN PLACE, THAT NUMBER HAS SKYROCKETED TO WHERE THE USDA JUST PUT OUT, EMAIL THIS WEEK SAYING THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PAY OUT $2 BILLION IN SETTLEMENT FUNDS JUST TO BLACK FARMERS FOR SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY WERE AIMING TO GET ACCESS TO DURING COVID. THAT DID NOT SUCCESSFULLY GET FUNDED. SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO STATE THE USDA 19 DEPARTMENTS DEEP IS THE LARGEST BUDGET IN OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUTSIDE OF DEFENSE. 
          AND I THINK IF WE HAVE A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT THAT CAN LOOK FOR THAT FUNDING, I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT OUR CITY HAS THE PROFILE TO GET IT. AND THAT'S JUST THROUGH USDA FUNDING ALONE. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF YOUR PRESENTATION? AND JUST LIKE SOME SORT OF BREAKDOWN FOR THE $425,000, JUST HOW. YES, MA'AM. AND I CAN RESEND IT, IT WAS A WHILE AGO WHEN WE FIRST SENT IT OUT, WHEN WE WERE PLANNING FOR ME TO COME TODAY. 
          BUT, YEAH, I CAN DEFINITELY EMAIL THAT TO YOU. CAN I GET YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS? I'LL GIVE IT NOW. JUST SEND IT TO THE CITY CLERK. OKAY. I CAN GET IT. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THE PROTOCOL. SO I MEAN, YOU CAN EMAIL AS WELL, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION. YEAH, WE ALL NEED THAT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, CITY MANAGEMENT HAS IT AS WELL TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WELL, DO. THANK YOU. I YIELD, MADAM MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SO, OCTOBER WORK SESSION. I MEAN, THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS THIS FUNDING AND THE BUDGET FOR ABOUT $100,000 FOR EITHER A POSITION OR A CONSULTANT. AND SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS SO WE CAN MOVE IT ALONG, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. AND, STAFF EXPLORING HOW WE LEVERAGE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO, TO MEET A NEED THAT WE KNOW, CONTINUES TO EXIST. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS FILMING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND BECAUSE OF A SITUATION, BUT WE FOUND OUT WHAT THE SITUATION WAS AND THERE WAS NO REAL WELL WAS THE ISSUE. BUT IT WASN'T AN ISSUE LIKE THAT. BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE I THINK I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR POLICY AND THEY NOTIFYING PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE IN THE AREA, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR ME, THEY FILM A LOT IN THE FAMILY DOLLAR PLAZA. AND IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME WHAT'S GOING ON, I CAN'T TELL THEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. SO I THINK NOTIFICATION SHOULD GO OUT REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY FEET YOU ARE WITHIN AN ARE, IT SHOULD GO TO EVERY HOME THAT'S IN THAT AREA BECAUSE EVERY EVERY HOME IN THAT AREA, SHOPS AT THAT PLAZA IN SOME WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY FILMING. SO WHETHER WHETHER 
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THEY'RE CLOSING YOUR STREET DOWN OR, OR WHATEVER THEY'RE STILL IN THE PLAZA FILMING. AND IF SOMEBODY ASKS, I WOULDN'T I CAN'T TELL THEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW UNTIL I ACTUALLY GO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE DO NEED TO UPDATE OUR POLICY WHERE IF YOU'RE IN A AREA, YOU HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE FILMING. IT SHOULDN'T BE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE FILMING AT MALLALIEU CHURCH. AND THEN THEY LET EVERYBODY ON WEST AVENUE KNOW, HEY, WE'RE FILMING OVER HERE. YOU HAVE TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE SAME COURTESY AND RESPECT THAT YOU'RE GIVING TO CERTAIN PEOPLE. OKAY, MR. BROWN, I SEE OUR CHIEF AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND STAFF AT THE PODIUM. YEAH. GO AHEAD, CHIEF. YEAH SO REAL QUICK, FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY, SO WE LOOKED AT THE SITUATION THAT OCCURRED, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A VIOLATION, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE VIOLATION. SO WE WORK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND WE PUT SOME THINGS IN PLACE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO APPROVE. FIRST OF ALL, IF A PERSON FAILS TO GET A PERMIT, IT SHOULD BE A $5,000 FINE OFF THE BACK. THIS IS GOING TO PREVENT MOVIE THEATERS AND MOVIE SETS FROM NOT FOLLOWING THE PROPER PAPERWORK IN TIME. SECOND OF ALL, EVEN IF IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH A LOT OF MOVIE SETS USE, THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT. THIRD IS A $1,500 MINIMUM FOR TRASH LEFT ON A SET, SO WE HAVE TO SEND OUR CITY CREWS TO CLEAN UP THEIR TRASH. IT'S $1,500 MINIMUM FINE. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE START, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY CLEAN UP THEIR AREA. FOR A LOT OF TIMES, IF YOU NOTICE A LOT OF THE MOVIE SETS, LEAVE SIGNS, CONES AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE $500 PER WEEK FOR WHEN THEY DO THAT, BECAUSE WE GOTTA HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO DISCOURAGE THIS KIND OF ACTIVITIES. AND THE BIGGEST THING IS OUR NOTIFICATION AND YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. SO WE PUT WE REQUIRED NOTIFICATIONS TO THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF THE DETAILS THEY CAN ANSWER. BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE THINGS BECAUSE I THINK IF WE DO THIS, IT WILL DISCOURAGE THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES FROM OCCURRING. OKAY. THE, THE NOTIFICATION THING IS A BIG ISSUE, WE RECENTLY HAD A, A SITUATION AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THIS. I MEAN, THEY WERE FULL BLOWN BLOCKING STREETS, IMPACTING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEY CALLED AND REACHED OUT SAYING THEY HAD NO NOTICE. OF COURSE, WE HAD NONE. AND COME TO FIND OUT, IT WASN'T EVEN APPROVED. AND SO, I THINK THANKS THAT CHIEF, FOR GETTING ON IT AND, AND REALLY ADDRESSING IT. 
          BUT LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE, I THINK THIS IS NOT JUST A FILM INDUSTRY AWARENESS. IT'S ALSO A RESIDENT AWARENESS THAT WE NEED BECAUSE HAD THE RESIDENTS NOT REACHED OUT TO ME AND COUNCILMEMBERS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN AND THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. THEY WOULD HAVE JUST ASSUMED WE KNEW. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE IN HERE DOING THINGS. SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE FINES, BUT LIKE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO GET THE WORD OUT? AND WHY ARE WE HAVING SUCH A HUGE CHALLENGE WITH NOTIFYING ALL COMMUNITIES ABOUT FILMING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES? SO A COUPLE OF NOTES ON THAT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALWAYS ADDING NEW THINGS. WE SEND OUT LITTLE BLASTS ABOUT LIKE THE VESTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT DON'T OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO WE TRY TO LEAD THE WAY AND SOME OF THAT STUFF, BECAUSE WE DO GET A LOT OF FILMING. IN 2022, WE AVERAGED A PRODUCTION EVERY TWO DAYS. IT'S A LOT, BUT IN, IN SOME OF THOSE WAYS, YES. THE ONE THAT KIND OF BROUGHT THIS UP, THEY WERE ROGUE. THEY WENT ON THEIR OWN. WE WEREN'T AWARE UNTIL WE GOT THE NOTICE AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT PUTTING SOME OF THESE PENALTIES IN. BUT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT WE DO WHAT WE CALL FILMING ONE ON ONE SESSIONS. WE DID ONE IN JUNE. WE'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER 1ST OCTOBER 22ND, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2017 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS FILMING. YOU KNOW, WE REALIZED, OH MY GOODNESS, WE'RE WE'RE IN THE A MECCA FOR FILM. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS. WE HAD A REALLY GREAT ONE. WE PROBABLY HAVE AROUND 75 PEOPLE AT THE LAST ONE, SO THEY'RE VERY WELL ATTENDED. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 1ST OCTOBER 22ND. THAT FLIER WILL BE GOING OUT SOON, AND THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND FIND OUT, LIKE ALL THOSE PROCEDURES AND WAYS THAT WE PUT INTO PLACE, ONE OF THE KIND OF AHEAD OF THE CURVE THINGS THAT WE IMPLEMENTED WAS THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS. OTHER JURISDICTIONS REQUIRE THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS TO BE LETTERED OUT, AS THEY CALL IT, TO THE NEIGHBORS. I ACTUALLY REQUIRE THEM TO PUT A BLURB, A STANDARD BLURB AT THE BOTTOM THAT HAS MY NAME AND CELL PHONE NUMBER ON IT, AND MY EMAIL ADDRESS. THAT'S SOMETHING OTHER 
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JURISDICTIONS I'M NOT AWARE THAT THEY REQUIRE TO DO THAT, SO THAT WHEN THEY GET THIS LETTER, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THE CONTACTS THAT ARE ON THERE, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO ME AND HAVE A CONTACT ON THOSE NOTIFICATION LETTERS, DIRECTLY. I ALSO DO THAT ROAD CLOSURE NOTICE THAT I SEND OUT. THAT'S SOMETHING I'M NOT AWARE OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO, BUT I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GETTING IT. 
          THAT GOES OUT TO MY ENTIRE BLAST, WHICH HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ON IT HAS RESIDENTS, HAS BUSINESSES, HAS PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE AREA IN CASE THEY'RE TRAVELING THROUGH DOWNTOWN OR WHATNOT. AND I ALWAYS LINK THE TCP'S ON THERE WITH THE CONTACT INFO FOR THAT PRODUCTION SPECIFICALLY. SO IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S MISSED, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DIDN'T GET THE LETTER OR IT BLEW AWAY OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THEY HAVE A CONTACT NUMBER AS WELL AS MY INFORMATION IN THERE. SO WE'RE ALWAYS KIND OF LOOKING FOR MORE WAYS TO ADD, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ADD THE COVERAGE. SO WELCOME. ANY IDEAS TO ADD ON TO THAT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO YOU KNOW, MERGE WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO TRY TO HELP, MITIGATE SOME OF THE NOTIFICATION STUFF. BUT YEAH, THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS NEWS TO US AS WELL. WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT PRODUCTION WAS HAPPENING. YOU SAID TCP WHAT IS THAT? OH I'M SORRY. TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN. NO WORRIES, IT'S A PRODUCTION SUBMIT TO US SHOWING WHAT ROADS ARE IMPACTED. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WORK WITH THEM ON TO COME UP WITH THAT PLAN, SO THEY PROPOSE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MYSELF REVIEW IT IF WE THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH, ESPECIALLY ON PUBLIC SAFETY, WE'LL HAVE THEM SCALE IT BACK. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE FEE SCHEDULES THAT ARE SET UP THAT ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL EACH YEAR. 
          AND THE BIGGER IT GETS, THE MORE MONEY THEY'RE CHARGED FOR THAT GREATER IMPACT. SO IT'S KIND OF A BALANCING ACT. DO YOU REALLY NEED THIS MUCH ROAD OR CAN WE, YOU KNOW, SHIMMY IT DOWN TO HERE OR AGAIN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS IF IT'S A NO GO WITH THEM OR IT'S CERTAIN HOURS THEY'RE GOING TO IMPACT, THEN IT'S JUST DENIED. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS YOU JUST MENTIONED WE HAD FILMING EVERY TWO DAYS. 2022 AND 2024, THE STRIKES. AND SO OUR FILMOGRAPHY IS, VERY ROBUST WITH THE TYPES OF FILMS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE. JUST MERCY. HIDDEN FIGURES, I MEAN, A LOT IN THERE, A WAY THAT WE CAN PUT OUR FILMOGRAPHY ONLINE SO AND CONSTANTLY UPDATE IT SO THAT PEOPLE WILL KNOW. OR IF, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE LIKE, THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN FILMED HERE. 
          THIS IS. AND I KNOW THE RESIDENTS, ARE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO USE THEIR HOMES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, STUDIOS, PRODUCTIONS TO USE THEIR HOME, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO TRACK THAT? SO WE CAN I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION. I MEAN, STRANGER THINGS AND OUR LIBRARY, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME REALLY BIG PRODUCTIONS, OZARK, WHICH IS ONE THAT I REALLY ENJOY. I HOPE THEY COME BACK, BUT YEAH. IS THERE A WAY TO I KNOW YOU KEEP TRACK OF IT, BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT MORE PUBLIC FACING? YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE A LIST OF THEM ON OUR CAMERA. WE HAVE A CAMERA READY PAGE THAT HAS SCROLLING TRAILERS FROM DIFFERENT PRODUCTIONS. SO WE DO LIST SOME OF THOSE THERE, EVERY TIME I DO A FILMING ONE ON ONE SESSION, I UPDATE IN MY PRESENTATION. THE ADDITIONAL PRODUCTIONS THAT WE HAVE. IN ADDITION, WE'VE SHARED THAT WITH THE CVB, AND THEY'RE DOING A WHOLE TOURISM PROMOTION AROUND THE FILMING THAT'S GOING ON HERE. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE GIS DEPARTMENT TO CREATE AN EXPERIENCE APP, WE ARE EXCLUDING RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, BUT FOR THE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS, SO THAT ESSENTIALLY PEOPLE COULD EXPERIENCE A SITE, TAKE A PHOTO AND HAVE ALMOST AN IMAGERY BEHIND THEM OF WHAT THAT SET MAY HAVE LOOKED LIKE, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING PROMOTIONAL AROUND THE FILM TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE THAT TOURISM, SO, YEAH, THOSE ARE THINGS WE'RE DEFINITELY TRACKING, TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT LIST SO THAT WE CAN BOAST TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW GREAT THE CITY IS AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. YOU MENTIONED THERE'S SOME ON THE CAMERA SIDE. I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY TO GET LIKE A COMPLETE LIST AS WE HAVE IT NOW AND JUST KIND OF LIKE UPDATE IT ON A ROLLING BASIS? YEAH. SO I CAN UPLOAD THOSE. I TRIED TO DELAY IT A LITTLE BIT, ONLY BECAUSE, SOME OF THE PRODUCTIONS DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THEY'RE FILMING THERE BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT AFTER THE PRODUCTION. YEAH. RIGHT. SO LIKE THE ONES FROM 21, 22, 23, LIKE JUST GETTING CAUGHT UP AND OF COURSE NOT WHILE THEY'RE FILMING. BUT ONCE THE PRODUCTION IS ABSOLUTELY. IT'S AN ENTIRE SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION. I CAN JUST HAVE THEM UPLOAD THAT SLIDE. AND THEN WHEN I DO THE NEXT FILMING PRESENTATION, I CAN UPLOAD THE FRESH ONE IN THERE. 
          ABSOLUTELY COUNCILMEMBER COMING. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. QUESTION. SO DO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT'S IN PLACE FOR ALL FILMING, ANY TYPE OF FILMING THAT'S IN THE CITY, BE IT ON, CITY PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO AND I GUESS APPLY FOR SOME SORT OF PERMIT. LIKE, I KNOW THE ONE THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE WAS TALKING ABOUT. THEY JUST 
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KIND OF WENT IN AND SET UP. BUT IS THERE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT ALL PRODUCTION COMPANIES KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY FIRST. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT, WHICH CAME UP CURRENTLY, A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS DON'T REQUIRE COMPLETE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY PERMITS, BUT GIVEN HOW MANY WE'VE HAD COME THROUGH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EXPLORING, WITH LEGAL INSIGHT TO SEE IF WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES ALL PRODUCTIONS THAT MAY HAVE A LOWER FEE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AS BIG OF AN IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S INVOLVED, BUT ALMOST I, I WOULD SAY 85 TO 90% OF OUR PRODUCTION TEAMS ARE RECURRING. THEY'VE DONE A PRODUCTION ONCE THEY COME BACK, I LET THEM KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT. SO MOST OF THOSE. BUT THERE'S THAT 10 OR 15% THAT ARE NEW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY MISSED THAT MEMO THAT I'M WANTING TO DO IT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO GET IT ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE SO THAT IT'S SOMETHING HARD AND SECURE THAT WE CAN KIND OF LEAN ON. AND THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING IS IT WOULD BE ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PRIVATE HOMES FOR THE SIMPLE FACT, LIKE I SAID, IT DOES. IN FACT, IT DOES IMPACT THE RESIDENTS. SO IF YOU'RE FILMING AT MY HOUSE, YOU STILL I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH EQUIPMENT THAT'S THERE THAT THEY BRING YOU WITH ALL THE TRUCKS AND LIGHTING EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING. SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT JUST THE IMPACT THAT IT DOES HAVE ON THE NEIGHBORS WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS AND THINGS ARE, SO THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN PLACE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE CITY SHOULD BE MADE AWARE JUST FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET THE PROPER NOTIFICATION OUT. YEP. AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET IMPLEMENTED IN THERE. WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE LEGALITIES, BECAUSE A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS DON'T REQUIRE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUSH FOR TO TRY TO GET THAT IN FORMALLY SO THAT WE HAVE THAT TO STAND ON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND CHIEF, I APPRECIATED YOUR IDEAS ABOUT THE SORT OF FINES REGARDING CLEANUP BECAUSE THERE ARE I LIVE IN SORT OF GROUND ZERO FOR A LOT OF THIS, AND THEY DO LEAVE A LOT OF CONES, A LOT OF KIND OF ROADBLOCKS. AND, THEY'LL JUST SIT THERE FOREVER, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AT THE BACK OF THE MALLALIEU CHURCH PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THAT. MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY BETWEEN MR. ROGERS AND POLICE WHEN ONE OF THOSE SHUTS DOWN AND LEAVES TOWN, YOU CAN SORT OF PING THEM TO GO AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEANED UP. OTHERWISE, THE POLICE AREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO KNOW TO GO BY THE PARKING LOT AND LOOK FOR IT. SO BUT I THINK THAT'S I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE THEY DO NOT ALWAYS BUT THEY DO OFTEN LEAVE STUFF BEHIND. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS ANYTHING ELSE, NO. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. AND SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO WORK WITH LEGAL ON THE ORDINANCES. 
          WE'LL SEE THAT COME BACK IN THAT WAY. SO STAFF WILL PUT IT ON WHEN IT'S READY. YES. THINK MAYBE OCTOBER OF HOW. I MEAN, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN FOR A WHILE AND SO I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO FALL OFF THE RADIO. I MEANT RADIO RADAR, THAT SHOULD BE FINE. WE'VE ALREADY DRAFTED IT, AND LEGAL HAS IT. SO BY THE END, IT SHOULD BE FINE. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, ARE YOU ON THIS ON OCTOBER WORK SESSION? NO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OCTOBER WORK SESSION, ITEM 
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NUMBER 20. COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SOLAR AMENDMENT TO THE POWER PURCHASE CONTRACT BETWEEN ME AND A PARTICIPANT, MR. BROWN. YES, MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE MR. THOMAS MANGRUM, AND MIAC REPRESENTATIVES. MR. JONES. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ME, MR. STEVE JACKSON AND STUART JONES HERE TO DISCUSS THE ACTIONS OF THE SOLAR AMENDMENT TO THE POWER PURCHASE CONTRACT BETWEEN ME AND OUR UNSIGNED PARTICIPANT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. JACKSON AND MR. STUART JONES. THANK YOU. THOMAS. MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US A CHANCE TO COME AND DISCUSS THIS LAST, AMENDMENT TO THE SOLAR PROJECT THAT IS GOING ON. AS MENTIONED, I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT, STEVE JACKSON, WHO IS THE POWER CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER? AND IS HIS GROUP THAT OVERSEES. AND STEVE OVERSEES THE GROUP, OBVIOUSLY, FOR ALL THE GENERATION RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, WITHIN ME, WHETHER THERE ARE THOSE THAT WE CO-OWN WITH GEORGIA POWER AND THE CO-OWNERS ACROSS THE STATE OR THEIR WHOLLY OWNED MEDIA RESOURCE LIKE THE WANSLEY COMBINED CYCLE OR THE PURCHASE POWER AGREEMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT THE SOLAR AMENDMENT OR WHAT THE SOLAR PROJECT FALLS UNDER. SO I'LL LET STEVE GO, GIVE THOSE DETAILS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO THIS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND 
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MEAG POWER, BACK IN 2021, THE CITY DID SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH ME. AG POWER THAT, ALLOWED YOU TO HAVE, OUTPUT FROM A SOLAR PROJECT THAT MY POWER WAS GOING TO MEAG POWER CONTRACTED WITH THIS SOLAR FACILITY IS CALLED PINEVIEW SOLAR. SO THOSE AGREEMENTS, OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE PINEVIEW SOLAR, YOUR AGREEMENT WITH MEAG POWER WERE EXECUTED IN 2021IN THE FALL. 
          UNDER THAT AGREEMENT, YOU RECEIVE, OUTPUT FROM THE FACILITY AT A FIXED PRICE, AND YOU ONLY PAY FOR THE ENERGY THAT YOU RECEIVE FROM THE FACILITY. SO THERE'S NO INVESTMENT, NO FIXED COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ONLY ENERGY FROM THE FACILITY. UNFORTUNATELY, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, THIS FACILITY HAS PROJECT HAS BEEN IMPACTED LIKE MANY OTHER ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DUE TO TARIFFS ON SOLAR PANELS, DUE TO INCREASING INTEREST RATES. AND OTHER IMPACTS IN THE SOLAR MARKET. SO WE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL TWICE SO FAR, AMENDING THIS AGREEMENT, TO, DELAY THE SCHEDULE AND INCREASE THE COST. NOW, I'M IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN TO ASK FOR A THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ALSO IMPACT THE PRICE AND THE COST, ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION, WHEN YOU SIGNED YOUR AGREEMENT WITH ME AT POWER IN 2021, YOU ALSO SIGNED AN AGREEMENT. A RURAL, RENEWABLE ENERGY CUSTOMER AGREEMENT WITH WALMART. AND THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT, WALMART IS AGREEING TO TAKE THE COST RISK ON THE SOLAR ENERGY AND RECEIVE THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS THAT ARE PROVIDED WITH SOLAR ENERGY. SO THERE'S NO RISK TO YOUR OTHER CUSTOMERS, ELECTRIC CUSTOMERS IN THIS AGREEMENT, WALMART IS ASSUMING ALL THAT RISK IN ORDER TO HELP ACHIEVE SOME OF THEIR, SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. SO THAT HAS NOT CHANGED AS WE LOOK AT A FURTHER AMENDMENT TO THIS AGREEMENT. JUST A FEW DETAILS HERE, THE PRIOR DEVELOPER OF THIS, PROJECT, PEAK CLEAN ENERGY, HAD WAS IN A POSITION WHERE THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. SO AS WE MOVED INTO THE, THE MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR, WE WERE EXPECTING THE PROJECT TO GO INTO DEFAULT. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME ONLINE, THIS NOVEMBER. IT WAS OBVIOUS THEY WERE NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT. THEY BECAUSE OF THAT SITUATION, THEY DID SOLICIT AND OBTAINED A BUYER FOR THE PROJECT. AND THAT PROJECT IS NOW OWNED BY A COMPANY CALLED LINEA ENERGY. AND THEY ARE READY TO INVEST IN THE PROJECT AND TAKE THE PROJECT TO COMPLETION. THEY HAVE ALREADY BEGUN, RESTARTED THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. SO UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, THEY DID ASK FOR A CHANGE IN THE SCHEDUL, MOVING THE DATE OF OPERATION TO JANUARY OF 2026. AND ABOUT A 10% INCREASE IN THE PRICE TO, 4.1 $0.05 PER KILOWATT HOUR. IT WAS CURRENTLY ABOUT 3.8 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR, WE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM TO PROVIDE YOU MORE SECURITY UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF SECURITY THAT THEY HAD TO PROVIDE. IF THEY DO NOT PERFORM UNDER THE AGREEMENT FROM $3 MILLION TO $6 MILLION, AND THEN ALSO, IF THEY ARE DELAYED IN BRINGING THE PROJECT INTO SERVICE, $8,000 PER DAY PENALTY VERSUS $4,000 A DAY PER, PER DAY FOR PENALTIES. SO, IN IN RECOGNIZING YOU, TAKING MORE RISK, CONTINUING TO TAKE RISK UNDER THIS PROJECT. WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU MORE BENEFIT IN CASE THE PROJECT DID NOT MOVE FORWARD. SO WE ARE IN FRONT OF YOU ASKING FOR YOUR AGREEMENT, TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT OR WITH YOUR SHARE OF THE PROJECT, YOUR OUTPUT FROM THE PROJECT IS ROUGHLY, A LITTLE LESS THAN A MEGAWATT, 0.88MW. AND AGAIN, ALL OF THAT POWER AND THE RENEWABLE CREDITS WOULD GO TO WALMART. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH WALMART IN CONJUNCTION WITH IG. THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PRICE AND THE SCHEDULE. AND SO THEY'RE, READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO MEET THEIR COMMITMENTS UNDER THEIR AGREEMENT WITH THIS CHANG, SO I WILL STOP THERE. AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. AGAIN, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH US. THIS IS A AN AMENDMENT TO THAT AGREEMENT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES THAT I DISCUSSED. ALL RIGHT, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF, STAFF, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS 
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TO PROCEED WITH, THE SOLAR, THIRD SOLAR AMENDMENT. AND SO, I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE RIGHT NOW, SO I'LL ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS, WE ARE ALMOST AT CAPACITY ON OUR LOAD, CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY MEGAWATTS WE HAVE AVAILABLE, BUT WE'RE CLOSE TO FULL CAPACITY. AND SO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDITIONAL LOAD IN IN THE EQUITABLE GROWTH AND INCLUSION STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLAN, WE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT 100% OF OUR ADDITIONAL LOAD WAS RENEWABLE ENERGY. NOW THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES, AND SO WILL THIS. I KNOW THE INITIAL CONTRACT WAS ABOUT WALMART, WILL THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LOAD, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST FROM DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES, DATA CENTER IN PARTICULAR, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THOSE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND THAT IS A HUGE RISK. BUT ALSO A LOT OF ENERGY. AND I THINK WE NEED TO START HAVING A CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT OUR ADDITIONAL LOAD WILL BE. WE DID NOT, BUY INTO VOGTLE THREE AND FOUR, THAT RECENTLY JUST CAME ON FROM A NUCLEAR PERSPECTIVE, BUT OUR ENERGY IS STILL, I THINK, THE CLEANEST IN THE SYSTEM. I THINK WE ARE UPWARDS OF 94%, IN 2000, I THINK 20 OR 21, WE WERE 99%. 
          SO, OUR ENERGY IS DEFINITELY CLEAN BECAUSE SHARA, I THINK WAS THE ONE THAT WAS DECOMMISSIONED. 
          WANSLEY OR SHARA WANSLEY WAS DECOMMISSIONED. COAL. THE ONLY PART THAT WE HAVE LEFT NOW IS SHARE. CORRECT, AND THOSE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DECOMMISSIONED AS WELL. SO WE HAVE A GOOD MIX OF NUCLEAR, HYDRO, AND A LITTLE BIT OF COAL. RIGHT. WHICH KEEPS US, AT A VERY HIGH NON CO2, CO2 EMITTING RATE. BUT AND THIS TONIGHT IS PROBABLY NOT THAT TIME TO TALK ABOUT OUR INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN I THINK IS WHAT IT'S CALLED. YOU HAVE SOME A FEW UPDATES I COULD PROVIDE YOU JUST IN RELATION TO NEW POWER OPTIONS. YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND IF YOU ALL COULD MAYBE COME BACK, I DON'T KNOW, NEXT MONTH AT THE WORK SESSION, BUT I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO START HAVING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR ADDITIONAL LOAD WILL COME FROM. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN COAL, BUT NEITHER IS ME WITH THE DECOMMISSIONING. 
          RIGHT. BUT WITH US NOT BUYING INTO VOGTLE THREE AND FOUR, YOU KNOW, HYDRO, THERE'S WIND, THERE'S SOLAR, THERE'S BIOFUEL. THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. RIGHT SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL, RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES IS BEING, EXPLORING OR DISCUSSING. AND THEN HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR IRP INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN AND THE PLAN TO BRING ON ADDITIONAL LOAD BASED UPON WHAT WE PROJECT OUR GROWTH TO BE. YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES ON THAT. AS PART OF OUR, CONTINUED EFFORT ON THE INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN, WE NOW HAVE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, IN THE MARKETPLACE TO ACQUIRE PROPOSALS FOR, PARTICULARLY FOR SOLAR, FOR BATTERY STORAGE, PROBABLY FOR SOME NATURAL GAS GENERATION OPTIONS. SO SO LATER THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE, INFORMATION FROM THE MARKETPLACE ON WHAT, SOME OF THE OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER, PARTICULARLY WITH THE SOLAR AND THE BATTERY STORAGE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOLAR ONLY OPERATES AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, WE FEEL LIKE SOME TYPE OF BACKUP RESOURCE, LIKE BATTERY STORAGE, WORK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE MOST BENEFIT ABOUT THAT. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROCESS. AND SO LATER THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE THE RESULTS OF THAT RFP AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU ON AVAILABLE RESOURCES FOR THE FUTURE. AND WHEN YOU SAY LATER THIS YEAR, WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATE? BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY COMING BACK BEFORE THAT MIGHT NOT BE HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU MIGHT. YEAH, I THINK WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE ALL OF OUR BIDS BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO ANALYZE THOSE. SO POTENTIALLY SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER WOULD PROBABLY BE, WE WOULD HAVE GOOD INFORMATION AFTER WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE BIDS AND EVALUATE THOSE. SO, SOMETIME, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIME FRAME, MAYBE, NOVEMBER WORK SESSION, WHICH WILL BE ON, NOVEMBER THE 11TH OR 18TH. WE'LL HAVE A MEETING THERE AS WELL. 
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BUT, MADAM CITY CLERK, IF YOU COULD KIND OF JUST, TENTATIVELY PUT IT THERE, I WILL SAY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE, THERE ARE HUGE SAFETY, CONCERNS AND QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS WITH BATTERY STORAGE. WELL, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BENEFITS FOR, FOR YOU BEING CONNECTED TO THE GEORGIA GRID IS WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PUT THOSE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES IN YOUR CITY. YOU COULD STILL GET THE BENEFIT OF THOSE LIKELY CO-LOCATED WITH A SOLAR PROJECT, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'LL THAT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN. WE UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN AND SITING THOSE WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. AND EVEN IF THEY'RE IN OTHER CITIES, LIKE I WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY DOING SOMETHING IN MY CITY THAT WOULD HARM MY RESIDENTS. SO AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THOSE LOCATIONS, WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT NEAR RESIDENTIAL, WE KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION OUT THERE SAYS ONCE THEY GET IF THEY CATCH ON FIRE, THEY TELL YOU, JUST LET IT BURN UNTIL IT BURNS OUT. RIGHT. LIKE THAT SOUNDS DANGEROUS. YES, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS. SO WHEREVER YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING, IF YOU CAN JUST MAKE SURE WHEREVER IT IS, NO RESIDENTS ARE NEARBY, LIKE, AT LEAST PROBABLY TWO MILES OR SO, BECAUSE, I WOULD HATE TO, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE WE'RE BENEFITING OFF OF, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVELY IMPACTING SOMEONE ELSE'S QUALITY OF LIFE. WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS MAY PLAY IN THERE, BUT I KNOW I KEEP HEARING THE WORD SOLAR AND I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF, YOU KNOW, FOR POWER. I HEAR THE MAYOR SAY THAT WE'RE AT CAPACITY OR SOMETHING. SO WHEN I THINK OF SOLAR, THE SOLAR FARMS THAT I SEE, I KNOW IF I RIDE WAY OUT 20 AND IT'S JUST STRETCHES OF LAND WITH JUST THOSE, SOLAR PANELS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING OR. YES, THIS THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS AN 80 MEGAWATT SOLAR PROJECT, 22 OF THE MEAC POWER CITIES ARE LOOKING TO TAKE OUTPUT FROM THAT PROJECT, SO THAT THAT PROJECT WOULD ENCOMPASS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 400 ACRES OF LAND IT'S SITED IN, IN CENTRAL GEORGIA. OKAY, AND, AND SO THAT IT IS IN A RURAL AREA, OKAY. AND THEN FROM THERE THAT POWER IS. YES. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT OF GETTING THAT POWER. IT'LL BE CONNECTED TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE GRID IN THE STATE, AND THE CITY WILL RECEIVE THAT POWER THROUGH THE GRID. AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BATTERIES WITH THE BACKUP. AND IF THAT THAT FAILS, OR I GUESS DURING THOSE TIMES THAT IT'S NOT THE OPTIMAL TIME FOR TO USE THE SOLAR POWER, THEN THAT POWER KICKS IN FROM THAT BATTERY. IT CAN. YES. AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY BATTERIES AT THIS TIME, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING THOSE TO THE SYSTEM TO HELP SUPPORT THAT. YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, BEFORE ANY BATTERIES ARE INSTALLED, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD USE OTHER RESOURCES TO FILL IN, YOU KNOW, THE TIMES WHEN THE SOLAR WAS UNAVAILABLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I YIELD, MADAM MAYOR. AND SO, DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO PUTTING THIS ITEM ON CONSENT? ALL RIGHT. SO IT GOES ON CONSENT, AND THEN WE'LL JUST PUT IT ON NOVEMBER 11TH, TO SEE WHERE WE ARE REGARDING THE CONVERSATION AROUND OUR INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN AND OTHER OPTIONS FOR LOAD, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO GET HYDRO FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT OF COURSE, THEY'RE NOT BUILDING ANY NEW DAMS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION. LIKE JUST WHAT'S OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN LOOKING AGAIN. LIKE I SAID, AT BIOFUEL. I'VE HEARD OF THAT, BUT SOLAR IS THE ONE THAT GETS TALKED ABOUT A LOT, BUT THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE 24 HOURS A DAY, RIGHT, AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN OUR MIX OF RENEWABLE, WE'LL NEED SOMETHING MORE RELIABLE, RIGHT, IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING BACK ON THE GRID WHERE WE ARE. NOT LONG ON POWER ANYMORE, WHICH IS A GREAT THING. SO THANK YOU ALL. 
          SO MUCH. NOVEMBER 11TH, MADAM CITY CLERK, FOR ME, THE INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN, 630, MADAM MAYOR, NOVEMBER 11TH IS VETERANS DAY. WITH THE MEETING STILL OCCUR OR WOULD IT BE ON THE 12TH, I DON'T THINK WE TAKE THAT AS A HOLIDAY. YEAH. THAT'LL BE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL 
          [III. PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS (Part 1 of 3)]
RIGHT, NUMBER 16, COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR FINANCIAL ADVISOR. SELECTED VENDOR DAVENPORT AND COMPANY NOT TO EXCEED 75,000. DUET BOND CLOSIN, MR. BROWN, YES, MADAM MAYOR. 
          MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE DISCUSSED, THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR 
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SOLICITATION, I GUESS I COULD HAVE MR. LAWRENCE COME UP AND JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THIS ITEM, AND THAT'S OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO BE YOU'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT UP THERE AS WELL. AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AMOUNT, HOW MUCH WOULD THIS COST THE CITY. SO. MR. LAWRENCE, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO WE WERE DISCUSSING LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, YOU ALL WERE ASKING ABOUT THE PRICE OF IT, WE SPOKE WITH THE, THE VENDOR, WE ACTUALLY FOUND OUT THAT NOT ONLY IS IT NOT TO EXCEED 75, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DONE AT THE CLOSING, WITH THE BOND. SO I WAS GOING TO ALLOW, OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM DAVENPORT AND COMPANY, IF IT PLEASES, COUNCIL TO COME UP AND KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT. AND THIS, SOLICITATION WAS DONE FOR THIS. RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. GO AHEAD. WELCOME GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, GREAT TO SEE YOU, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS COURTNEY ROGERS. I'M THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH DAVENPORT AND COMPANY, MY PARTNER, RICARDO CORNEJO IS ALSO HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, SO IF I COULD, JUST A BRIEF BACKGROUND. DAVENPORT AND COMPANY, WE ARE A FINANCIAL ADVISOR FIRM. WE REPRESENT NEARLY 100 COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WATER AND SEWER, I'VE BEEN I OVERSEE OUR PRACTICE. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LITTLE OVER 30 YEARS. I'VE BEEN DOWN IN GEORGIA NOW ALMOST A DOZEN YEARS. I MAY LOOK FAMILIAR, BECAUSE IN 2017, I THINK COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE AND THE MAYOR, YOU WERE ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME. WE WERE YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE 2017 REFINANCING OF THE WATER AND SEWER BONDS. AND AS A PART OF THAT, AND I THOUGHT IT MAY BE GOOD FROM A BACKGROUND, WHAT WE DID, WE REFINANCED A COUPLE OF BOND ISSUES, SAVED ALMOST $8 MILLION IN SAVINGS, AND WE DID THAT. WE, PART OF THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND UPDATED YOUR RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES PRIOR TO TAKING THE MAYOR AND STAFF MEMBERS UP TO NEW YORK, WHERE WE VISITED WITH THE RATING AGENCIES, WE RECEIVED A POSITIVE OUTLOOK AND ULTIMATELY LED TO A BOND RATING UPGRADE BY MOODY'S. AND THEN SINCE THEN, WE'VE RUN SOME ANALYSIS ON THE ON THE RECREATIONAL PROJECTS THAT I THINK IS UNDER CONSIDERATION, AND WE'VE ALSO, DID SOME BONDS 101. I SPENT AN AFTERNOON WITH YOUR FINANCE STAFF, JUST KIND OF WALKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW BONDS WORK. THEY WEREN'T A PART OF THE 2017 FINANCING. THIS WAS JUST MAYBE ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO. SO WE'VE WE'VE TRIED TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE WITH THE CITY AS, AS TIME HAS GONE ON. AND SO WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY WORK WITH YOU AGAIN, WHEN WE DID THAT FINANCING BACK IN 2017, WE WERE NEW. WE HAD A LOT OF LEARNING TO LEARN ABOUT THE CITY. I FEEL LIKE WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE CITY. AND SO WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE A FEE, QUOTE, WE ACTUALLY WORKED FOR 80,000 BACK THEN. IN 2017, OUR FEE QUOTE TONIGHT IS AT 75 BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT. WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT YOU, SO WE CAN BRING SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE. OF COURSE WE HAVE INFLATION TOO, RIGHT? SINCE IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE FEE, IN THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO WHAT WE BASICALLY ACT AS THE QUARTERBACK ON THE TRANSACTION, I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY HIRED BOND COUNSEL. WE ACTUALLY KNOW THE FOLKS THAT YOU'VE HIRED. WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE, WE KNOW YOU'VE ALSO DONE AN RFP THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER NEXT ON UNDERWRITERS, WE ACTUALLY KNOW THE FOLKS HERE AS WELL. SO IT'S A TEAM THAT WE KNOW HOW TO WORK TOGETHER. BUT PART OF OUR JOB IS TO ACT AS A QUARTERBACK. WE PUT TOGETHER THE SCHEDULE. WE MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER A CREDIT PRESENTATION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STORY THAT'S BEING TOLD PUTS YOU IN THE BEST LIGHT. BECAUSE THE WAY THAT WE GET THE BEST RATE POSSIBLE IS TRY TO GET THE HIGHEST RATING WE CAN. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID WHEN WE DID THE REFINANCING. AND THEN WE ACT AS YOUR FIDUCIARY. SO PART OF OUR JOB IS TO ACT ON YOUR BEHALF BEFORE OUR OWN. WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR YOU ALL BEFORE WE LOOK OUT FOR OURSELVES. SO AS THE UNDERWRITERS ARE SELLING THE BONDS, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING YOU THE BEST PRICE POSSIBLE BY LOOKING AT OTHER MARKET PRICINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE'RE IN THE MARKET QUITE A BIT. WE'RE SELLING BONDS NEXT WEEK, 150 MILLION FOR CITY OF AUGUSTA. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS IN THE MARKET. WE ACTUALLY DO MORE PUBLIC SALES THAN OUR COMPETITORS. OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE DONE TWICE AS MANY TRANSACTIONS IN THE STATE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITIES THAN ANY OF OUR COMPETITORS. SO THAT IS THAT IS WHAT WE DO, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'VE LEFT OUT, AT THIS POINT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR BUSINESS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS AND INTRODUCE YOUR TEAM THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT YOU WANT TO OFFER TODAY? SURE. AS I MENTIONED, RICARDO CORNEJO 
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IS HERE WITH ME AS WELL. RICARDO COMES FROM THE BANKING SIDE. HE'S WORKED IN THE, HE'S BEEN WITH ME A DOZEN YEARS NOW, BUT I WORKED FOR HIM FOR THE BANKING SIDE, REGIONS BANK AS WELL AS RBC BANK. SO HE'S BEEN IN THE STATE FOR A LONG TIME. I ALSO HAVE THREE OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM WHO ARE LOCATED UP IN ROSWELL, A YOUNG MAN WHO'S BEEN WITH ME ABOUT A DOZEN YEARS AS WELL, WHO I TRAINED FROM, RIGHT OUT OF SCHOOL. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER YOUNG MAN WHO'S BEEN WITH US FIVE YEARS, AND WE JUST HIRED A YOUNG MAN FROM UGA, WHO JOINED US JUST THIS SUMMER, BUT ALSO, WE HAVE IT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO SYNDICATION. DO YOU HAVE THOSE PEOPLE HERE TODAY? OH, SURE. I KNOW. I'LL LET LET YOU TALK ABOUT THAT. YEAH. COUNCILMAN BUTLER, THAT'S FOR THE UNDERWRITER WITH JP MORGAN. THEY'LL THEY'LL BE UP WHEN WE GET TO THAT. I'M SORRY. 
          NO, YOU'RE FINE. AND ONLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HIRE THEM. THAT WAS PART OF HIS JOB. AND SO THE ASK TONIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS JUST FOR THE SELECTION OF DAVENPORT AND COMPANY FROM THE SOLICITATION. COUNCILMAN. NO, THANK YOU. SO, THE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT. BUT OF COURSE, THIS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY. THIS IS WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WOULD BE TAKEN TONIGHT. SO, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS GOING ON? CONSENT ON MONDAY? ALL RIGHT. ITEM 16 IS ON CONSENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 17, COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR AN UNDERWRITER SELECTED VENDOR SYNDICATE STRUCTURE JP MORGAN SECURITIES, LLC AND SECURITY CAPITAL. MR. BROWN. YES MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MR. LAWRENCE, IF YOU CAN JUST WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS FROM RFP. 2024 DASH 1868, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, COUNCILMAN BUTLER, RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE A SYNDICATION, IT JUST SO HAPPENED, J.P. MORGAN WAS MORE THAN HAPPY. THAT WAS THE SELECTED VENDOR FROM OUR SIDE. OF COURSE, WE'RE HERE BEFORE COUNCIL TO SEE IF YOU ALL WOULD AGREE. AND THAT BEING THE SELECTED VENDOR FOR THIS SOLICITATION, I ALSO HAVE THE ACTUAL SYNDICATE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL IT THE COMPANY THAT THEY'RE DOING THE SYNDICATION WITH HERE AS WELL. IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. YES. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHERE ALL OF THE THERE WAS A SOLICITATION DONE ON THIS, RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. AND WERE ALL OF THE, PERSONS WHO SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SYNDICATE? NO, MA'AM. SO, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU AFTER THAT, BUT WE CAN HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT. I'D LIKE TO. WE HAVE MISS MARQUITA JACKSON FROM JP MORGAN. HI. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARQUITA JACKSON. I'M AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH JP MORGAN SECURITIES LLC IN THE PUBLIC FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND I'M LOCATED HERE IN ATLANTA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, WE ARE SEEKING CONSIDERATION TO SERVE AS UNDERWRITER ON THE CITY'S PROPOSED BOND TRANSACTION, WE DID UNDERSTAND THERE WERE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL REGARDING A SYNDICATE STRUCTURE, AND I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS, BUT I HAVE MY MINORITY PARTNER HERE, NATHAN LEWIS, WHO IS WITH SECURITY CAPITAL, WHO WOULD BE IN THE SYNDICATE WITH US. NATHAN AND I WORK WELL TOGETHER AND WORKED ON OTHER TRANSACTIONS ACROSS THE US. AND ACTUALLY IN THE METRO ATLANTA AREA, WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS AS UNDERWRITER, JP MORGAN AND SECURITY CAPITAL WOULD WORK TOGETHER TO SELL THE CITY'S BONDS FOR ITS PROPOSED PROJECT, SO BASICALLY, WE WOULD PLACE THOSE BONDS WITH RETAIL AND INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN THE CITY, AND WE WOULD PARTNER WITH NATHAN AT SECURITY CAPITAL TO ENSURE THAT THOSE BONDS ARE PLACED, NATHAN, WHY DON'T I GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF? GOOD EVENING. MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME. MY NAME IS NATHAN LEWIS. I SERVE AS CEO OF SECURITY CAPITAL BROKERAGE, INC. 
          WE'RE HEADQUARTERED HERE IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. CERTIFIED MINORITY OWNED FIRM. PRIOR TO SECURITY CAPITAL, I SERVED AS EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR MAYNARD JACKSON'S FIRM. JACKSON SECURITIES, FROM ATLANTA, GEORGIA. SCHOOLED HERE IN ATLANTA, MOST RECENTLY, WE COMPLETED A AIRPORT TRANSACTION FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTA, OVER $400 MILLION. AND TOMORROW WE'LL PRICE AT $39 MILLION. TRANSACTION WITH THE CITY OF ATLANTA, FULTON COUNTY RECORD AUTHORITY. WE HAVE SERVED ON SEVERAL CO-MANAGER TRANSACTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS, ON THIS TRANSACTION WITH JP MORGAN. 
          THANK YOU. THANKS. ANY QUESTION? HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, MR. BROWN, I SEE YOUR LIGHT IS ON. IS THAT FROM EARLIER, COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OBJECTION TO THIS GOING ON? 
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CONSENT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 34. 1617. I WAS 
          [IV. NEW AGENDA ITEMS (Part 2 of 4)]
ASKING ABOUT THE SYNDICATE, AND. OH, THAT WAS THE QUESTION FOR. THANK YOU FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          SO THIS SYNDICATE OPTION REQUIREMENT OR SOMETHING CAME AFTER THE RFP CLOSED AND ALL. I DON'T KNOW WHO RECALL WHO SUBMITTED PROPOSALS, BUT ALL OF THE APPLICANTS OR PEOPLE, ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO SUBMITTED PROPOSALS WERE NOT GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IMPACTS THE SOLICITATION OR NOT, AND SO MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. Y'ALL CAN TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE AND LET US KNOW AT THE MEETING ON MONDAY, SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THIS WILL GO ON THE AGENDA. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. ITEM NUMBER 34. MR. BROWN, THIS IS THE WORKER'S COMPENSATION. YES. I'LL ASK MISS JESSIE. OH, GREAT. COME ON UP, MAN. MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THESE ARE THE POLICIES THAT ARE UP FOR RENEWAL. OCTOBER 1ST, 2024. WE WILL BE PRESENTING INFORMATION ON THE MARKETING RESULTS FOR PROPERTY WORKER'S COMP, CRIME, ACTIVE SHOOTER, CYBER INSURANCE POLICIES. AND GREG SINGLETON IS HERE TONIGHT FROM MCGRIFF, THE CITY'S BROKER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY, I DO WANT TO SEE IF I CAN PLUG THIS IN. I DO YOU HAVE IT. OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST PLUG THIS IN? IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. THAT SHE MAY BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP FROM ONLINE. YES. OKAY. ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. THAT'LL WORK. GREAT OKAY. OH HEY. AND DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THAT GOING BECAUSE CYBER IS ONE OF THOSE POLICIES WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. SO WITH THAT SAID. WHAT NUMBER IS IT 2034 34. SORRY IT'S THE PREMIUM COMPARISON. SO WE'LL DO THE PREMIUM OKAY. INSTEAD OF. US OKAY. SO CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT IT'S STILL KIND OF KIND OF SMALLER THAN THAT TO BE HONEST. IT MIGHT. A LOT BIGGER ON MY SCREEN. YES, SIR. BUT, BUT I CAN JUST, I CAN, I CAN SAY, OKAY, PERFECT. THANK SO FIRST OFF, THANKS AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TRUSTING US TO BE YOUR BROKER. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, THE BEST COVERAGE OR THE BEST PRICE FOR THE CITY. SO, I WANT TO START OFF WITH, LAST YEAR'S PREMIUM FOR THE SAME POLICIES. 
          AND YOU. SO THE FIRST LINE IS GOING TO BE YOUR CYBER POLICY. THAT'S THAT FIRST GROUP. AND LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE LIMITS RAISED TO 2 MILLION. I THINK THE PREVIOUS YEAR WAS 1 MILLION WITH A SUB LIMIT FOR, SOCIAL ENGINEERING AT 100,000. LAST YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT UP TO $250,000. SUBLIMIT FOR THE SOCIAL ENGINEERING AND THE LIMIT UP TO 2 MILLION WITH A 14 HOUR WAITING PERIOD ON REPORTING AND THE RETENTION ON THAT WAS $100,000. THIS YEAR. 
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AND WELL, IN THE PRICE LAST YEAR WAS $86,199.36. THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT. SAME LIMITS WITH A $100,000 SELF-INSURED RETENTION AND REDUCED WAITING PERIOD TO NOW, 12 HOURS, 81,000, $31.60, WHICH IS A SIX 6% DECREASE IN PREMIUM, WE WENT OUT TO WE GOT QUOTES FROM, WE SUBMITTED QUOTES TO FIVE OTHER CARRIERS, FOUR OF THEM. ACTUALLY, ALL FIVE OF THEM DECLINED, BUT THE CARRIER THAT YOU WERE CURRENTLY WITH, THEY WERE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE, BASED ON THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. AND WE DO HAVE TO SET UP SOME TRAINING BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE AN INTERIM, NEW DIRECTOR IN TECH FOR THE CITY. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE GETS UP TO SPEED ON THE REPORTING PROCESS. RIGHT OR INTERIM PERSON FOR IT? I ASKED ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. OKAY IT'S. I JUST KNOW IT WASN'T THE SAME PERSON. THAT RIGHT? YEP SO MOVING ON TO THE CRIME POLICY LAST YEAR, THE PREMIUM WAS AT $10,906. THIS YEAR, THE PREMIUM IS AT 7963. 27% DECREASE. AND NO CHANGES IN COVERAGES. EVERYTHING STAYED THE SAME. AS FAR AS THE EXCESS WORKERS COMPENSATION GOES, LAST YEAR WE WERE AT $138,912. THIS YEAR WE GOT A QUOTE BACK FOR $124,552, AND ALSO IN THAT PRICE IS, $5,000 EMBEDDED FOR LOSS CONTROL TRAINING THAT, THAT WE CAN WORK WITH HR TO PUT TOGETHER A TRAINING PROGRAM FOR LOSS CONTROL FOR THIS YEAR. SO WE WAS HAPPY. WE WERE HAPPY TO SEE THAT AND GET THAT SECURED FOR THE CITY. AND THE OTHER ONE IS PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS WITH CHUBB. AND LAST YEAR PREMIUM WAS $300,700. THIS YEAR IS 379 302 26% INCREASE. AND IT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO SOME LOSSES THAT ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS, WITH HR AND CITY MANAGER AT A DIFFERENT TIME, WE DID SEND OUT QUOTES TO A LOT OF OTHER MARKETS, WE ARE STILL WAITING ON A QUOTE FROM ANN RISK, THREE COMPANIES, AIG, ZURICH AND HARTFORD DID NOT RESPOND. AND THREE COMPANIES, TRAVELER'S LIBERTY AND AXA, DECLINED. AND FINALLY IS ACTIVE SHOOTERS LAST YEAR THE PREMIUM WAS $88,400. THIS DID INCREASE A LITTLE BIT TO $92,820, WHICH IS A 5% INCREASE. WE DID APPROACH OTHER MARKETS, BUT THEY WERE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER WITH THE QUOTES THAT THEY GAVE US BACK, SO WE FEEL AS THOUGH STAYING WITH THEM, EVEN WITH THE 5% INCREASE, IS STILL IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE UP FOR DISCUSSION. AND THE TOTALS LAST YEAR WAS $625,117.36. THIS YEAR. THE BIGGEST IMPACT WAS THE INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 685 668 60, WHICH IS AN OVERALL 9.69% INCREASE. AND LIKE I SAID, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE PROPERTY RENEWAL. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS EITHER PRETTY MUCH FLAT OR LOWER. ANY QUESTIONS? ON THAT. NOW I SEE, MISS JESSIE'S LIGHT ON AND MR. BROWN HERE. ANY QUESTIONS THAT AS STAFF, MISS JESSIE, WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION? THE 
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RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO ACCEPT THE QUOTES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE, MR. SINGLETON, IN HIS EFFORT TO GET US THE BEST PRICE, ONE OF THOSE HE STILL HAD A PENDING, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU BELIEVE THAT WILL COME BACK LESS THAN. WAS THAT. IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP. OH, FOR THE PROPERTY? YES. WITH WITH RISK, I SHOULD KNOW SOMETHING BY WEDNESDAY WITH THEM. AND I CAN UPDATE THAT AND SEND IT TO YOU. BUT, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WITH THE LOSSES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE CURRENT, IT'S JUST BEEN VERY CHALLENGING TO FIND, SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN COMING WITH LOWER RATES THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND THE LOSSES. JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL, WE HAD A MAJOR ONE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO THAT IMPACTED US, THIS YEAR. SO HAVING SAID THAT, MADAM MAYOR, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ACCEPT THE QUOTES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO US AND NOT WAIT ON THE AMRI'S. TONIGHT, I STILL DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS. DOES THAT MEAN THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO THIS GOING ON? CONSENT? NO ALL RIGHT. WE WILL PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ITEM NUMBER 35. THIS IS A REZONING ON 2380. IS THIS THE ATMP PROJECT? OKAY. WELCOME MR. BROWN AND STAFF HAVE AN OVERVIEW PRESENTATION BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO JUST. 
          THIS IS A REZONING APPLICATION. FOR A CONCURRENT VARIANCE, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2380. THE LOW DRIVE. THE APPLICATION PETITION NUMBER IS P2024 RC DASH 00107. THE APPLICANT IS A AND P, THE VILLAGE LLC. THE CURRENT PROPERTY AS IS R3, WHICH IS OUR MULTIFAMILY. THE REZONING REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM OUR R3 ZONING MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT TO MIX. AGAIN, THERE ARE CONCURRENT VARIANCES TO REMOVE THE RM REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIPLE USES. PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED MULTI-FAMILY AS STATED, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. THAT'S THE DESIGNATION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. DESIGNATIONS. FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATIONS. THERE ARE A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES, THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, SUCH AS HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, SOME PUBLIC AND OPEN SPACE, THESE ARE PROPERTIES ARE USUALLY IN THIS AREA IS USUALLY TYPICAL OF BEING LOCATED ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS AND AT TRANSPORTATION NODES. THE TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, LAND USE, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS OUR EDUCATIONAL, INSTITUTIONAL. OUR MULTIFAMILY, OUR THREE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS OUR C-1 AND Z, WHICH IS OUR MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT AND OUR COMMERCIAL, OUR KR ZONING DISTRICT. AND SOME OF THE TYPICAL TYPE OF SCALE OF, OF PROPERTIES AND PROJECTS ARE MULTIFAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING, LOCATED NEXT TO RETAIL. THE HEIGHTS ARE 1 TO 4 STORIES. 
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THE NEXT SLIDE IS SHOWING YOU THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH IS A THREE STORY FAMILY RENTAL APARTMENT WITH 96 APARTMENT HOMES. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF THE AMENITIES AS WELL. I'LL LIST SOME OF THE PROPOSED AMENITIES. A CLUBHOUSE, A ART ROOM, A FITNESS ART AND CRAFT ROOM, YOUTH COMMUNITY, ON SITE LAUNDRY, OFFICES, COMPUTER ROOM, PLAYGROUNDS WITH BENCHES, A GARDEN ENHANCED LANDSCAPE AREAS, OUTDOOR GAZEBO WITH A GRILL AREA AND SEATING, A DOG PARK, WALKING TRAILS AND BIKE RACKS. THESE ARE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS AND SITE PLANS THAT ARE PRESENTED AND WERE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. THESE ARE ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL CASE NUMBER P2024. RC DASH 007. DASH ZERO ONE. THE REZONING FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 2382 LOWELL DRIVE FROM R3 TO RM, I, AND THE CONDITIONS AS PROPOSED. THERE ARE SIX CONDITIONS. THE FIRST CONDITION APPLICANT MUST ONLY BUILD A MAXIMUM OF 96 APARTMENT HOMES. CONDITION NUMBER TWO ENSURE THAT BUILDING ELEVATIONS VARY IN STYLE AND DESIGN AND COMPOSED OF BRICK AND CEMENT BUILDING MATERIALS AS DEPICTED IN THE WORK SESSION IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WORK SESSION PRESENTED ON AUGUST 8TH. CONDITION NUMBER THREE, CITY OF EAST POINT PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WILL MAINTAIN ARCHITECTURAL OVERSIGHT OF THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE AN ENHANCED LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE PLAN. 
          IT'S RIGHT THERE ACROSS FROM TH. CONDITION NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A LISTING OF AMENITIES TO BE NOTED ON A PROPOSED SITE PLAN. CONDITION NUMBER SIX, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS IN RELATION TO HOUSING DISPLACEMENT AND REPLACEMENT POLICIES AS OUTLINED BY THEIR TEAM AT THE AUGUST 8TH, 2024 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSION MEETING. THERE. VARIANCE ASSOCID WITH THIS PETITION OF THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE TO ELIMINATE THE NONRESIDENTIAL USES AS SPECIFIED WITHIN THE MXS ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION, THE APPLICANT, APPLICANT, OR REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE APPLICANT ARE HERE. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HAROLD BUCKLEY. MY OFFICE ADDRESS IS 2849 PACES FERRY ROAD IN ATLANT, I AM HERE THIS EVENING, AND ACTUALLY, I SORT OF THREW AWAY MY PREPARED REMARKS BECAUSE AFTER I ARRIVED AT CITY HALL THIS EVENING, I FOUND OUT ABOUT A DOOR TO DOOR MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN BY TWO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, CANVASING THE RESIDENTS AT THE VILLAGE APARTMENTS, OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS. AND SO TO ADDRESS THAT, WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS EVENING IS TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE ATLANTA NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP AND LET YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. AND THEN SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE MISINFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED AND DISSEMINATED, SO THAT IF ANYONE WHO LIVES ON THIS PROPERTY IS WATCHING, WE CAN REASSURE THEM THAT NOTHING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD IS TRUE. SO TO INTRODUCE THE ORGANIZATION, I HAVE CECILIA LEAL HERE WITH ME. HER OFFICE ADDRESS IS 233 PEACHTREE ROAD, AND I ALSO HAVE IN THE ROOM WITH ME, SAMANTHA BROWN, BECAUSE A AND D P IS PARTNERING WITH LAUREL STREET RESIDENTIAL AND SHE HAS FLOWN IN THIS EVENING IN CASE THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT SHE WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS AS WELL. SO I'LL CEDE THE FLOOR TO CECILIA TO INTRODUCE THE ORGANIZATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BUCKLEY. AND MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. CECILIA 
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WITH A AND P THE ATLANTA NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP. I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO SOME OF YOU, BUT WE ARE A 33 YEAR OLD AFFORDABLE HOUSING NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ACTIVE IN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, CREATING SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS. AROUND THE METRO ATLANTA AREA. AND WE ALSO WORK IN THE HOUSING FINANCE SPACE AND IN MULTIFAMILY. AND SO WE HAVE TWO PROPERTIES IN EASTPOINT, WHICH I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH. THAT'S DOLLAR VILLAGE AND STAUNTON CREST. ADP HAS OWNED THESE PROPERTIES SINCE 2013, 2014. DOLLAR VILLAGE WAS PURCHASED OUT OF RECEIVERSHIP AT THAT TIME IN 2014, AND ANDP TOOK ON THE PROPERTY, STABILIZED THE PROPERTY, AND HAS MADE SOME INVESTMENTS IN THE IN THE PROPERTY SINCE THEN, WE HAVE BEEN BALANCING MAINTAINING RENTS AND MAINTAINING A SAFE AND CLEAN PLACE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND, AND WE DO A LOT OF OTHER ACTIVITIES IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPACE. WE HAVE HAD, 1 OR 2 REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY OF EASTPOINT IN OUR COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. SO THAT'S IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NEIGHBORWORKS AMERICA, WHERE WE GATHER, RESIDENT LEADERS FROM AROUND METRO ATLANTA AND HAVE WORKSHOPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT CULMINATE IN A LARGER A TRIP TO A LARGE, KIND OF MULTI-DAY WORKSHOP FOR RESIDENT LEADERS TO LEARN BEST PRACTICES AND ET-CETERA FROM FROM, THE FROM PEER ORGANIZATIONS. AND I JUST WANT TO TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGNS, THERE HAVE, AS I SAI, BEEN TWO CANVASSERS, WHAT THE MESSAGE FROM ONE CANVASSER WAS THAT AND DEEP IN ITS REDEVELOPMENT PLANS, AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING, BASICALLY OBSOLETE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY WITH A NEW MODERN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY, HIGH QUALITY, HIGH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY. WHAT ONE, CANVASSER TOLD THE RESIDENTS WAS THAT A DEEP PLANNED TO DEMOLISH THE DEVELOPMENT AND PUT EVERYBODY OUT, AND NO ONE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK. THAT IS NOT TRUE, THE REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT IS BEFORE YOU, THE STAFF TALKED ABOUT HOUSING DISPLACEMENT AND REPLACEMENT POLICIES. EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE TODAY, IF THIS REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL GOES THROUGH AND WE BUILD IT, WILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK. IF THEY CHOOSE TO. EVERY SINGLE ONE, SO THAT IS NOT TRUE. THE OTHER MESSAGE THAT HAS BEEN DISSEMINATED ON THE PROPERTY IS THAT IN FACT, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED OUR ZONING APPLICATION AND THE DEMOLITION WAS GOING TO START NEXT WEEK, AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABRUPTLY EVICTED WITHOUT NOTICE. AGAIN, THAT IS NOT TRUE, AND SO IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO LIVES IN THE VILLAGE APARTMENTS WHO IS WITHIN THE SOUND OF MY VOICE RIGHT NOW, AND YOU HEAR THAT IT IS NOT TRUE. THE OF THE TWO TWO PEOPLE GOING DOOR TO DOOR, ONE PURPORTED TO REPRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL ELECTION CAMPAIGN FOR MARIE TERRY. WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE. WE ARE NOT ACCUSING HER OR HER CAMPAIGN OF ANYTHING, BUT WE JUST WANT ANYONE TO KNOW THAT IF THEY HEAR THIS AND THEY HEAR THAT, THAT THAT PERSON PURPORTS TO REPRESENT THAT ORGANIZATION, THAT INFORMATION ABOUT OUR PLANS IS NOT TRUE, THE OTHER CANVASSER, PURPORTED TO REPRESENT A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY KNOWN AS BRATTON, FELDMAN. AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT PERSON WAS TELLING THE TRUTH. WE ARE NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF ANYTHING BUT ANY RESIDENT. IF THEY ARE APPROACHED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO REPRESENT THAT COMPANY, I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT TRUE, YOU KNOW, IT. WE ARE NOT HERE TO CAUSE OR PARTICIPATE IN ANY CONTROVERSY WHATSOEVER, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO LET THESE, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING PREYED UPON. WE DON'T KNOW WHY. AND SO WHILE ANDP IS PREPARING TO SEND OUT NOTICES, 
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WE WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT AS MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU, THE WAY WE HAVE THIS EVENING, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR HOUSING DISPLACEMENT AND REPLACEMENT POLICIES, WE ARE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE. THIS EVENING. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL REST AND CONCLUDE OUR REMARKS. YEAH. YOU WERE IN MY HEAD, BUT I'LL WAIT TILL THE END TO ASK MY QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL. I'M COMING. THANK YOU. SO I, LIVE ON A COUPLE OF HOUSES DOWN FROM THE APARTMENTS. I KNOW I KNEW ALL ABOUT THE PROJECT. WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND MATTER OF FACT, WE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS WHEN WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE DISPLACEMENT AND THEY TOLD US THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE PLACED IN THE AVAILABLE APARTMENTS IN THE OTHER AREAS. AND THAT'S HOW I KNEW THAT THEY OWNED THE ONE ON STANTON ROAD. BUT NOBODY WOULD BE DISPLACED. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THEM IN PHASES OR THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT TAKING ALL OF THEM DOWN AT ONE TIME, I WOULD CALL SAMANTHA BROWN FORWARD BECAUSE SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION MUCH MORE INTELLIGENTLY THAN I CAN. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BROWN. I'M WITH LAUREL STREET RESIDENTIAL. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE PHASED QUITE YET, BUT YES, IT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF OR ONE OR THE OTHER. EITHER WITH RESIDENTS REMAINING ON SITE AND ONLY A PORTION OF THE BUILDINGS BEING TAKEN DOWN AT ONE TIME, OR RESIDENTS BEING MOVED TEMPORARILY OFF SITE TO OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE AREA SO AS NOT TO DISRUPT THEIR LIVES, AND THEN THEY HAVE THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE BACK. SO, AS MR. BUCKLEY SAID, EVERYONE WHO LIVES ON SITE NOW WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN. THEY ARE PROTECTED BY A WHOLE BUNCH OF, FEDERAL ACTS SUCH AS UNIFORM RELOCATION ACT, AND WE ARE SUBJECT TO THAT, AND WE HAVE TO HONOR IT, AND SO EVERYONE WHO LIVES AT THE VILLAGE NOW WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN AND, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY WAS DISPLACED, THAT LIVES UP THERE. AND THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE BACK IN BECAUSE THE APARTMENTS ARE FOR, PEOPLE ON A FIXED INCOME. YES AND, WE DIDN'T WANT THEM DISPLACED. SO WHEN A NEIGHBOR ASKED WHAT WAS GOING ON, I TOLD THEM, OH, THEY'RE GOING TO REMODEL THE APARTMENTS. 
          I KNEW THAT THEY WERE NOT TEAR THEM DOWN AND WASN'T BUILDING IT WASN'T WHAT'S BEING SAID, BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE, I BELIEVE, THE RESIDENT MANAGER OR SOMEBODY SOME TIME AGO. SURE. SO YEAH, I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH IT. I MY, MY, CONCERN. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ABOUT TEARING THEM DOWN, BUT THEN I REMEMBER HOW THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS DISCUSSED WHEN WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. YEAH. AND OVER MY 20 YEAR CAREER WORKING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RELOCATION OF ABOUT 3000 HOUSEHOLDS. SO I'VE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND THERE IS A TON OF MISINFORMATION THAT WINDS UP HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY EARLY ON. AND OUR BEST STRATEGY IS COMMUNICATION WITH RESIDENTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. THIS SORT OF TOOK US BY SURPRISE BECAUSE THIS IS VERY EARLY. WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN A REZONING YET. SO, WE'RE GOING TO START OUR CAMPAIGN TO COMMUNICATE WITH RESIDENTS AND, AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND THAT THEY ARE PROTECTED. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU, TO OUR DEPARTMENT FOR THE PRESENTATION. MY QUESTION IS THE LIGHTING A LIGHT, WHAT I SAW, BUT THERE'S NOT ONE LIGHT POST IN THE PRESENTATION. SO ARE YOU ALL GOING TO PUT LIGHTS ON THE ON SITE AND IF SO, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LIGHTING THERE BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION LOOKS GOOD. BUT I 
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DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS. WE WILL BE PUTTING LIGHTING IN THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THAT'S NECESSARY TO ENSURE SECURITY, NIGHTTIME SECURITY ON THE PROPERTY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE PLANNING STAFF IN ITS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS WOULD REQUIRE US TO SUBMIT A LIGHTING PLAN. AND SO WE WOULD SPECIFICALLY DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. SO ONE OF THEM WAS, WHAT'S YOUR PROCESS FOR REHOUSING THE RESIDENTS, HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE THERE CURRENTLY THAT ARE ON THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? THERE ARE ABOUT 12 OR 13 SMALLER BUILDINGS, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO, REMOVE THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND REPLACE IT WITH THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE OR SAW IN THE SITE PLAN THAT THE STAFF PRESENTED. OKAY. AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE THREE STORY, THE 96 UNITS. YES AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. SHE DID ASK ABOUT WILL IT BE DONE IN PHASES BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING HOW MANY RESIDENTS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? DO YOU KNOW THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY. SO 60 OF THE 64 APARTMENTS ARE ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED. SO AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HOUSEHOLDS REALLY BETWEEN 1 AND 3 PEOPLE. OKAY. AND I KNOW SHE ASKED ABOUT WAS IT GOING TO BE DONE IN PHASES AND LET'S SEE, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE COMING OUT GIVING SOME SORT OF MISINFORMATION. SO HAVE YOU GUYS STARTED THE PROCESS WITH REGARDS TO MAYBE A COMMUNITY MEETING OR DO SOMETHING TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS, TO JUST REASSURE THEM AND TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE FOR THIS PROJECT? WELL, AS I SAID, THIS JUST CAME TO OUR ATTENTION. SO THE STATEMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE HERE TONIGHT ARE THE FIRST STEP IN OUR YOU KNOW, EFFORTS TO COMBAT THE MISINFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN DISSEMINATED ON THE PROPERTY, WE ARE CURRENTLY FORMULATING, OUR NOTICE AND RESPONSE TO THAT TO KEEP EVERYONE ON THE PROPERTY INFORMED. SO TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, OUR PLAN ISN'T FULLY DEVELOPED YET, BUT WE WILL BE AGGRESSIVELY, INFORMING EVERYONE WHO LIVES ON THE PROPERTY AS TO THE ACCURATE INFORMATION. OKAY, A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU GET ALL YOUR PERMITS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. RESIDENTS ON BOARD, COUNCIL APPROVES IT AND ALL THAT. WHAT TYPE OF TIMELINE ARE WE LOOKING AT WITH REGARDS TO, THIS PROJECT, THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT HAVE TO BE APPLIED FOR AND WON, BUT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT, BREAKING GROUND, PROBABLY FOURTH QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, FOURTH QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND YOUR BUILD OUT TIME A YEAR, TWO YEARS PROBABLY I WOULD GIVE US, 18 TO 24 MONTHS, 18 TO 24 MONTHS. SO THAT'S THAT QUESTION THERE. NOW, I KNOW YOU REQUESTED TO GO FROM THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE MIXED MIXED USE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING ABOUT A CENTER OR SOMETHING. WHAT WAS WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR MIXED USE. BECAUSE WHEN I THINK MIXED USE, I THINK APARTMENTS UP TOP SOME SORT OF BUSINESSES ON THE BOTTOM. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING. SO THE THAT'S WHAT THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR, RIGHT NOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CALLS FOR A DENSITY OF 18 TO 14. I'M SORRY, NOT 18, 8 TO 14 UNITS PER ACRE, BUT THE ZONING CATEGORY THAT WE'RE IN, THE DENSITIES THAT ARE ALLOWED WILL NOT PERMIT US TO ACTUALLY BUILD THAT DENSITY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR A REZONING TO THE MIXED USE CATEGORY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BUILD WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE SAYS. THE CITY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THE CITY WANTS TO SEE HAPPEN. THERE BUT THE MIXED USE ZONING DOES REQUIRE A SECOND NONRESIDENTIAL USE. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR A NON RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. OKAY. SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE THE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT ARE CONFLICTING WITH EACH OTHER. YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. AND LAST QUESTION I KNOW YOU GIVE THE RESIDENTS EVERY RESIDENT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK. WHAT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE YOU KNOW, THE RENTAL. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GET IN TO SAY THEY CAN STAY THERE FOR $300 A MONTH, BUT I'M JUST HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE WILL THAT BE? OR WILL IT PRETTY MUCH BE WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE? OR IT'S HARD TO SAY. OKAY. 
          AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE EVASIVE, BUT WE ARE. WE'RE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY AND SUPPORT RENT SUBSIDY FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE AT THE LOWER END SO THAT 
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THEY DON'T SEE ANY RENT INCREASES, BUT THERE WILL THERE WILL BE SOME I GET IT, I JUST WANT TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, BECAUSE IF YOU TELL ME I'M MOVING OUT AND I YOU'RE MOVING ME OUT AND YOU'RE YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING NEW, AND THEN I'M ABLE TO COME BACK AND THEN YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO BE THERE. BUT NOW I'M PAYING $1,500. YES. YEAH, ANYBODY CAN COME BACK. BUT CAN I AFFORD TO COME BACK? RIGHT. SO NO, OUR OBJECTIVE IS THAT EVERYONE WHO LIVES THERE NOW WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO COME BACK. I CAN'T PROMISE YOU THAT. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON. BUT WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. OKAY AND THIS IS ONE OF THE DISTINGUISHING FACTORS BETWEEN OUR, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPOSAL AND WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE, BECAUSE WHAT YOU USUALLY SEE ARE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS THAT ARE THAT ARE REVENUE AND PROFIT DRIVEN. THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS MISSION DRIVEN. AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A ANDP AND JUST ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE. YOU'LL SEE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCILOR 11, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY, MR. I'M GOOD. I HOPE YOU ARE TOO. IS THIS THE SAME A AND P WHERE N YOUNGBLOOD STARTED REDEVELOPING MIDTOWN? WELL, NOT MIDTOWN, ACTUALLY. THAT'S THE OLD FOURTH WARD. OLD FOURTH WARD, AUBURN AVENUE. YES, IT IS. 
          SO, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR MISSION. BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN SHE STARTED, I WAS IN THE BEGINNING PROCESS OF THAT IN THE 90S. IT WAS ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP. THIS ONE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE HOME OWNERSHIP. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION. SO NDP WAS FOUNDED BY MISS HATTIE DORSEY IN I THINK IT'S 1993. AND THE IDEA WAS REALLY TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN COMMUNITIES AND IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE SORT OF IN THE INNER CORE AND BEING IMPACTED BY THE COMING OLYMPICS, SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE THE ORGANIZATION STARTED. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EVOLUTION SINCE THEN. OUR, OUR MOST RECENT, I WOULD SAY OUR CURRENT MODEL, OF WHICH THERE ARE SORT OF MANY THERE ARE SEVERAL LINES OF BUSINESS WITHIN A ANDP, BUT A LOT OF OUR FOCUS IS ON HOME OWNERSHIP. AND IT STARTED AFTER THE FORECLOSURE CRISIS. AND SO ADP WAS ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS IN TOWN AND SORT OF IN THE METRO THAT WAS ABLE TO BE A COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION AND ABLE TO ACCESS NSP DOLLARS NATIONAL STABILIZATION PROGRAM DOLLARS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, INVEST THEM, AND REALLY SORT OF USING THIS INNOVATIVE MODEL, THEY WE PURCHASED HOMES IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE WERE TONS OF FORECLOSURES, WHERE THERE WERE A LOT OF UNDERWATER HOME VALUES AND DO SORT OF A PRIVATE FLIP MODEL, WHICH HAS LIKE A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. BUT IN THIS SCENARIO, BECAUSE THERE ARE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND OTHER TYPES OF SUBSIDY IN THESE HOMES, WE WERE ABLE TO SELL THEM TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOME BUYERS, AND WE DID A STUDY IN 2020, 2020, I THINK 2021 THAT SHOWED ACTUALLY THAT OUR HOME BUYERS BETWEEN THE YEAR, I THINK 2015 AND 2020 DON'T QUOTE ME ON THESE YEARS EXACTLY. BUT SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME STRETCH OF TIME THERE HAD ACCUMULATED $85,000 IN INEQUITY IN HOME OWNERSHIP EQUITY. AND MOST OF OUR HOME BUYERS ARE FIRST, YOU KNOW, FIRST GENERATION HOMEOWNERS, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR IN METRO ATLANTA. SO A LOT OF OUR WORK IN THE HOMEOWNERSHIP SPACE HAS BEEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE IN THE TRI-CITIES. SOUTH FULTON, SOUTH DEKALB. WE ALSO WORK IN IN GWINNETT, AND WE HAVE SOME PLACE BASED PARTNERSHIPS ALSO IN CITY OF ATLANTA AND, THROUGHOUT THE METRO. SO THAT'S A LARGE PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION, ANOTHER PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION THAT CAME ABOUT KIND OF I THINK IT WAS IN THE EARLY 2000, WAS BUILDING APARTMENT COMMUNITIES, BUILDING AND OPERATING. AND SO DALLAS AND STAUNTON CREST, WHICH ARE THE TWO PROPERTIES IN EASTPOINT, COME, COME FROM THAT, SO WE CALL THEM SORT OF OUR, OUR LEGACY PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN OWNED BY ADP FOR OVER A DECADE, AND THEY CAME TO US OUT OF RECEIVERSHIP, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN ANOTHER NONPROFIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OWNER AND OPERATOR WAS LIQUIDATING THEIR PORTFOLIO AND THEY NEEDED SOMEWHERE TO GO. AND DALLAS 
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SPECIFICALLY HAD SOME FUNDING FROM FULTON COUNTY. AND SO FULTON COUNTY ASKED, AND SINCE SINCE ADP WAS A KNOWN, YOU KNOW, QUALITY NONPROFIT PARTNER OF FULTON COUNTY'S AT THE TIME AND STILL IS TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME ABOUT. SINCE THEN, WE HAVE PARTNERED ON, TEN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN METRO ATLANTA, INCLUDING ONE PREVIOUSLY WITH LAUREL STREET RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S OUR PARTNER AT OUR PROPOSED DOLLAR VILLAGE PROJECT. 
          HOW DOES THE PARTNERSHIP WORK? SO WE ARE FOR DOLLAR SPECIFICALLY OR IN GENERAL? YEAH AND THIS THIS WOULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE. YEAH. SO AT DOLLAR VILLAGE WE OWN A AND DP OWNS THE PROPERTY. NOW WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY PROPERTY MANAGER THAT WILL STAY, YOU KNOW, STAY PROPERTY MANAGER OF THE NEW, THE NEW PROJECT THAT'S AFFILIATED WITH, WITH LAUREL STREET RESIDENTIAL, OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP. SO SPECIFICALLY AT DOLLAR. WHAT'S EXCITING TO US AND I THINK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT ADP, THE NONPROFIT, WILL RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND, AND WE'RE LEASING IT TO A DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE A PART OF, ALONG WITH OUR OUR PARTNER, AND SO WHAT THAT GROUND LEASE MEANS IS THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE AFFORDABLE IN PERPETUITY, BECAUSE WE OWN THE LAND, WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS ON IT. SO WE OWN THE LAND AND WE OWN A PART OF THE PROJECT. ESSENTIALLY THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON IT, AND THEY ARE THE EXPERIENCED PARTNER REALLY, AND THE ONES THAT ARE ABLE TO OFFER, EXPERTISE WHEN IT COMES TO RELOCATION AND CONSTRUCTION AND FINANCING. AND WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THAT WHERE WE CAN OFFER RESIDENT SERVICES, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER NONPROFITS WITH PUBLIC SECTOR PARTNERS, ETC. ONE FINAL QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO MUCH. I THINK YOU SAID YOU'VE DONE 3000 RELOCATIONS, 3000 HOUSEHOLDS. 
          YEAH. COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMPANY ONCE MORE, SO LAUREL STREET RESIDENTIAL IS BASED OUT OF CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA, AND THEY ARE AN AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION. AND THEY HAVE A PORTFOLIO OF ABOUT 5500 UNITS THAT ALSO INCLUDES THEIR PIPELINE, AND HAVE DONE AT LEAST ONE PARTNERSHIP WITH A ANDP HERE IN GEORGIA, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER PROPERTIES IN GEORGIA, AS WELL. WE WERE FOUNDED IN 2011 BY DIANE NELSON, AND WE ARE BELIEVED TO BE, THE MOST EFFECTIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPERATOR, OWNER, IN THE US THAT IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY A WOMAN OF COLOR AND, WHAT ELSE CAN I TELL YOU? NO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. ACTUALLY, COUNCIL PERSON CUMMINGS. ANSWER SHE HAD THE SAME QUESTIONS I DID, SO I JUST TURNED OFF MY LIGHT, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. 
          AND I THINK MY QUESTION IS ACTUALLY FOR STAFF. JUST ABOUT THE ZONING REQUEST. AND THIS QUESTION ISN'T MEANT TO IN ANY WAY SUGGEST THAT I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. SO I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT. BUT, AS IT WAS EXPLAINED, SO THIS IS R3 AND THEY WANT TO REZONE TO MIX. BUT THEN THERE'S A VARIANCE THAT ESSENTIALLY REMOVES THE MIX REQUIREMENT. IT JUST IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE AN END RUN AROUND THE ZONING. AND I'M WONDERING WHAT'S THE RATIONALE, WHAT WAS STAFF'S RATIONALE FOR THAT. BECAUSE REALLY WE'RE JUST ENDING UP WITH AN R3 PROPERTY. WELL, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE PUT OUT FOR RFP FOR IT TO BE REWRITTEN. THERE ARE A LOT OF HOLES IN THE CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE, SO WHEN DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS COME FORWARD, WE HAVE TO, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BEST WAY FOR THE APPLICANTS TO DEVELOP THEIR THEIR PROPERTIES, FOR THIS ONE, THE R3 ZONING DISTRICT DOESN'T ALLOW IT HAS A CAP ON THE 
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DENSITY AND MIXED IN THE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT. IT ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE DENSITY, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE TYPE, THE ZONING TYPE, WHICH IS THE MULTIFAMILY. THERE'S THERE IS A CONTRADICTION IN THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATION AND DENSITY AND THE ACTUAL R3 ZONING DISTRICT. SO WE HAD TO LOOK THROUGH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE TO SEE HOW THIS PROJECT COULD BE SUCCESSFUL BASED ON OUR CURRENT CODE. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A COUPLE. 
          WHERE'S MY PEN? SO AS IT RELATES TO HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS PROJECT? IT'S APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND A HALF. 4.5. AND YOU SAID RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ABOUT 10 OR 12 SMALLER BUILDINGS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO. HOW MANY? TWO. TWO. OKAY. THEN, COUPLE THINGS. THE COMMUNICATION WITH RESIDENTS. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME UP THAT YOU FOUND OUT, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU ALL TO GET WRITTEN COMMUNICATION TO THE RESIDENTS BY THIS FRIDAY? LIKE I MEAN, THE LONGER THAT SITS OUT THERE, THE LONGER I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ALARMED OR CONFUSED OR UNCERTAIN. SO, I MEAN, FRIDAY IS QUITE A BIT OF TIME AWAY, BUT LIKE, HOW SOON CAN YOU GET WRITTEN COMMUNICATION TO THE RESIDENTS? PRESS THAT. THERE YOU GO. OKAY, WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT TODAY. WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS ON FRIDAY, SO THE PLAN IS DEFINITELY TO GET SOMETHING OUT THIS WEEK. EARLIER IS BETTER AND WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THE BEST WAY TO COMMUNICATE. SO SOMETHING IN WRITING, I THINK TO FOLKS AND THEN PROBABLY FOLLOWED BY IN PERSON, PROBABLY BY A MEETING. YEAH, AND HOW'S THE YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT IN PERSON? THE MEETING. WE'LL TALK TO OUR PROPERTY MANAGER AND SEE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT WORKS FOR FOLKS. BUT SOONER IS DEFINITELY BETTER. OKAY. SO YOU'LL DO WRITTEN IN IN PERSON, AND WRITTEN WILL GO OUT THIS WEEK. YES THE, PLAN TO PREVENT INVOLUNTARY DISPLACEMENT. AND SO I KNOW THAT, FORMER MAYOR MIKE BACKER OF JOHNS CREEK IS ON THE FULTON COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE SEEKING FUNDING FROM THEM, AND, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A QUICK HE WAS ABLE TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM THE FULTON COUNTY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT, LOONY MIKE LOONEY, AS IT RELATES TO THE TEMPORARY RELOCATION OF PEOPLE FROM THIS SITE TO ANOTHER TO COME BACK, THAT THE STUDENTS WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND FULTON COUNTY SCHOOLS. YEAH. SO WE PRESENTED TO THE FULTON COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, MAYBE LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. SO PART OF THE RELOCATION PROCESS WILL INVOLVE A SURVEY OF RESIDENTS TO SEE WHERE FAMILIES ARE GOING DURING THE DAY AND WHERE KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL SO THAT THEY CAN BE PROPERLY PLACED. IF YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEED TO GO OFF SITE, THAT, THAT THERE WILL BE KIND OF MINIMAL DISRUPTION TO. YEAH. SO THE CONCERN IS IF THEY MOVE TEMPORARILY AND GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL AND THEN COME BACK TO ANOTHER SCHOOL, I THINK. BUT MIKE BARKER WAS TRYING TO AND GOT A COMMITMENT FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT IS MAYBE THERE'S STABILITY OF THEM BEING AT THE SCHOOL. I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE TRANSPORTATION, LOGISTICS. I'M NOT SURE, WHAT FACILITIES YOU ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO TEMPORARY RELOCATION. I WON'T CALL IT DISPLACEMENT BECAUSE INVOLUNTARY DISPLACEMENT IS JUST NOT EVEN AN OPTION. RIGHT, AND SO DO YOU. HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED, PROPERTIES THAT ARE CLOSE BY THAT MIGHT MINIMIZE IF THERE'S A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE OR SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE COORDINATED TO ENSURE, AGAIN, MINIMAL DISRUPTION. WE DON'T WANT KIDS MOVING AND BOUNCING FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL. SO I GUESS THAT'S FOR OUR RELOCATION SPECIALIST OR SO. WELL SHE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL RELOCATION, BUT I CAN SAY THAT WE DO OWN STAUNTON CREST, WHICH IS LESS THAN A MILE FROM DULWICH VILLAGE, AND ADP ALSO HAS A PORTFOLIO OF SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOMES, WE HAVE I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN THAT ARE IN EAST POINT. SO WHAT WE'LL BE 
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ABLE TO DO WITH BOTH THE EAST. EXCUSE ME, THE SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOMES AND STAUNTON CREST IS ONCE WE HAVE OUR FUNDING COMMITMENTS IN PLACE, AND WE KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING, WE WILL STOP LEASING AT STAUNTON CREST, AND WE'LL STOP LEASING AT THESE SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOMES THAT ARE IN EAST POINT OR IN, YOU KNOW, NEARBY AREAS. SO THAT THEY'LL STAY VACANT AND WE CAN MOVE FOLKS IN FROM THE VILLAGE. AND THEN, AS IT RELATES TO YOUR FUNDING SOURCES, ARE YOU ALSO APPLYING FOR THE LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT? I KNOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT PREVIOUSLY, AND WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE, NEEDING THE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL? BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE HAPPENING AS WELL. AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TIME THEM TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PROJECTS. I THINK BASED UPON THE TIMELINE YOU'VE SHARED, THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE AN ISSUE. BUT, THE WAGON WORKS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT HOUSING IS A PHASE ONE IS ABOUT TO START, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A PHASE TWO TO THAT, AND SO WHEN ARE YOU ANTICIPATING ASKING US TO OR WHEN ARE YOU ANTICIPATING SUBMITTING YOUR APPLICATION TO DCA, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, FOR THE LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT AS MANY, THE VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY. SO OUR APPLICATION TO, TO DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS FOR THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM WILL BE SUBMITTED, IT'S DUE OCTOBER 4TH. SO THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER. SO YOU'RE SUBMITTING THIS YEAR? YES. THAT WON'T BE OKAY, AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR, IT'S NOT I'M NOT THINKING THAT TODD AREA, WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE THE PLAN AND THE STUDY THERE WAS TALKS ABOUT, TRYING TO SEE HOW MAYBE WE COULD UPDATE A STUDY OR TRY TO GET THE SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED. SO YOU HAVE YOU ALL COME UP WITH A STRATEGY AS IT RELATES TO, THE SUPPORT THAT YOU MAY BE ASKING THE CITY FOR AS IT RELATES TO THAT APPLICATION THAT'S DUE NEXT MONTH. I MEAN, IT'S IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. YEAH. SO TODAY WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR THE REZONING WITH THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE, THE I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THAT RELATES TO THE, THE DCA PROGRAM IS REALLY APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE TO THE 9% PROGRAM. YOU'RE NOT APPLYING FOR THAT ONE. WE'RE APPLYING FOR THE 4% PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE ONE IN OCTOBER. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST TRYING TO YES. MAKE SURE THANK YOU FOR CIRCLING BACK ON THAT. WE APPRECIATE IT WHERE YOU ALL ARE AND WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED FOR THAT OKAY, THIS IS A REZONING. SO OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL ON MONDAY IF YOU ALL COULD PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNICATION AND THAT YOU KNOW HOW YOU'VE INTERACTED WITH RESIDENTS. I CAN ASSUME THAT PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STABILITY OF THEIR HOUSING, AND THAT CAN CREATE STRESS. AND SO THE SOONER YOU CAN SHARE THAT AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON MONDAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY BY THEN THE WRITTEN COMMUNICATION WILL HAVE GONE OUT AND WE'LL KNOW WHEN THE IN PERSON MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT INFORMATION IN CASE WE GET QUESTIONS. BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY IMPACTED ARE BEING PRIORITIZED AND GETTING THE INFORMATION THEY NEED IN THE WAY THAT THEY BEST RECEIVE IT. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MADAM CITY CLERK. OH, I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR. SORRY. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION, SO KNOWING THAT, THAT YOU ALL YOU KNOW, HELP PEOPLE FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, DO YOU PROVIDE ANY OTHER RESOURCES TO YOUR RESIDENTS, LIKE, FINDING AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE DO. SO W, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OWNERSHIP IN TEN PROPERTIES AROUND THE METRO AND A PORTFOLIO OF SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOMES, WHAT IS OFFERED AT THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES SORT OF VARIES BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS. SOME ARE SENIOR, FACILITIES AND SOME ARE FAMILY. 
          SO I CAN SPEAK TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF SORT OF WHAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY AT DYLAN AND THEN SOME OF OUR OTHER NEWER ONE OF OUR OTHER NEWER PROPERTIES THAT'S IN SOUTHWEST ATLANTA, SO THAT'S AT CREEKSIDE, AT ADAMSVILLE, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, ONE THAT WE ARE ROLLING OUT SORT OF AS WE SPEAK IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A NONPROFIT CALLED CAMP ADOPT, WHICH WILL OFFER FREE INTERNET TO OUR RESIDENTS IN THEIR UNITS, AND DO DEVICE GIVEAWAYS, AND THEY'LL PARTNER THAT WITH A, WITH A PROGRAM FOR KIDS AFTER SCHOOL TO LEARN KIND OF DIGITAL 
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LITERACY AND SKILLS, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO OUR OUR WORLD ONLINE. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. IN THE PAST, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH OTHER COMMUNITY NONPROFITS AND OTHER GROUPS SUCH AS FULTON COUNTY, SUCH AS, ANOTHER ONE IS FOOD WELL ALLIANCE. SO I WAS EXCITED TO HEAR THAT MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING TONIGHT SO THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THEM TO DISTRIBUTE PRODUCE AND FOOD BOXES AT OUR PROPERTIES, INCLUDING AT DOLLAR VILLAGE, DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD A PRETTY LARGE, RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNITED WAY, AND THERE WAS ALSO WORK DONE WITH FULTON COUNTY AROUND GETTING PPE TO RESIDENTS, AND OTHER SORT OF MATERIALS. SO WE LIKE TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO OFFER THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED TO FOLKS, AND ONE THING THAT WE WILL DO AT DOLLAR VILLAGE, THE NEW DOLLAR VILLAGE IS SORT OF ASSESS THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS AND BE ABLE TO OFFER PROGRAMING THAT MEETS THOSE NEEDS. THANK YOU. SO OH, GO AHEAD. AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHEN WE SAY PPE WE MEAN PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT. THANK YOU. SO I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE WE LOST OUR HOSPITAL, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD CITED WAS THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING THERE THAT DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE. AND SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT YOU ALL CAN HELP US WITH, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, LINK PEOPLE TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE, EITHER, YOU KNOW, THROUGH WHAT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE OR SOME I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF PROGRAM OR SOMETHING, BUT THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. AND ALSO FOR, FOR US TRYING TO GET HEALTH CARE HERE. 
          THANKS DO YOU I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION, SO LET ME CHECK IT. DO YOU ALL HAVE CASE MANAGERS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO WORK WITH EACH RESIDENT ON THE PROPERTY, OR THAT PROVIDES CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS? SO WE DON'T WE DON'T PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT, IT'S NOT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN THAT WAY. SO THAT SORT OF I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME, SOME PROJECTS WHERE THERE ARE PARTNERSHIPS WITH ORGANIZATIONS WHERE THERE'S FUNDING TO DO SO. SO IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA, THERE'S THE PARTNERS FOR HOME PROGRAM THAT CONNECTS VOUCHERS WITH FULTON COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FUNDS. THAT PROVIDES CASE WORKERS FOR FOLKS THAT NEED SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU. 
          SO MUCH, I'M NOT SURE. WELL, YEAH, WE'LL SEE YOU ALL ON MONDAY. SINCE THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING, I'M SURE WE WILL SEE HAROLD AND PROBABLY YOU ALL AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU VERY 
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MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, UPDATE ON POLICING, WHICH IN THAT UPDATE IS CHIEF HERE. 
          HEY, CHIEF. SO, WITHIN YOUR UPDATE, IF YOU CAN ALSO, ADDRESS BANK OWNED HOUSING CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SHORT TERM RENTALS, I GUESS THOSE UPDATES AS A PART OF YOUR UPDATE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT, FIRST, BY NEXT MONTH, WE SHOULD HAVE A REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, 100% OPERATING, THE IT DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED WITH US TO INTEGRATE IT INTO THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. SO THEY'RE WORKING ON OUR CONNECT EAST POINT, WHICH INVOLVES HAVING ALL OUR CAMERAS INTEGRATED AS WELL AS OTHER BUSINESSES, CAMERAS INTEGRATED. WE DISCUSS THAT MORE IN OCTOBER, BUT NEXT MONTH WE'LL BE FULLY UP AND OPERATIONAL AND RUNNING SCHOOLS ON CAMPUS BY NEXT MONTH SHOULD BE FULLY OPERATIONAL AS WELL. WE'VE TALKED TO THE COMPANY, READ SPEED. THEY SAID WE'RE ON A TWO YARD LINE GOING TO THE END ZONE. SO BY NEXT MONTH THOSE WILL ALSO BE UP AND OPERATING, WHICH WILL BE VERY GOOD FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REALLY MONITOR THOSE SCHOOL ZONES. AND WE CAN CITE SOME SPEEDERS AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP OUT A LOT, VERY, VERY MUCH. IT RIGHT NOW IS WORKING WITH OUR CAD SYSTEM TO GO TO THE CLOUD. 
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THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE MORE SERVICES, SOMETHING THAT I'VE WANTED FOR 911A LONG TIME IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE FEEDBACK. SO LIKE, IF YOU CALL HENRY COUNTY POLICE, YOU CALL FAYETTEVILLE IF IT'S A NON-EMERGENCY CALL OR AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY ACTUALLY SEND YOU A TEXT BACK TO YOUR PHONE AND YOU CAN TAKE A SURVEY ON THE QUALITY OF SERVICE. SO WE WANT THAT IN EACH ONE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE THINGS A LOT EASIER AND WILL KIND OF REDUCE COMPLAINTS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A QUALITY ASSURANCE. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND OUR TEAM IS WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. PRIOR TO THE SCHOOL SHOOTING, I WENT I WAS OUT LAST MONTH AT A CONFERENCE AND I CAME BACK AND I REACHED OUT TO THE, FULTON COUNTY SCHOOL CHIEF. AND SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE TRAINING FOR ALL THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS ON SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, INFORMATION ON SCHOOL SHOOTINGS FROM THE TACTICAL PERSPECTIVE. BUT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN POLICING AND WHAT HAPPENS DURING SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. SO WE STARTED UVALDI. WE STUDIED, DOUGLAS MACARTHUR AND FLORIDA AND JUST SOME COMMONALITIES THAT CAN HELP A SCHOOL IN THE UNFORTUNATE OR UNLIKELY EVENT OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING. SO POLICE KNOW HOW TO RESPOND. BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE NOT TEACHING THE ADMINISTRATORS WHAT WILL OCCUR DURING A SCHOOL SHOOTING. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, DURING THE DOUGLAS SCHOOL IN FLORIDA, THE SCHOOLS, MAKE THEIR STUDENTS PUT THEIR PHONES IN AND ONE OF THOSE BAGS AND BEGINNING SCHOOL. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT? WELL, DURING THAT SCHOOL SHOOTING, AFTER THE EVACUATION IS OVER, THEY HAD A MESS BECAUSE ALL THE PARENTS HAD LIFE360 ON THEIR PHONES. THE SCHOOL KIDS DID NOT REMEMBER THE PHONE NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY WERE SO USED TO PROGRAMING THE PHONES. NOT LIKE US. SO PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT CHILDREN WAS DECEASED BECAUSE IT WAS SHOWING ALL THESE KIDS WERE INSIDE THE SCHOOL. 
          WHEN THEY WEREN'T SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY NEED TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A SCHOOL SHOOTING, IT'S REALLY CHAOTIC AND YOU JUST KIND OF HOW TO DEAL WITH THE CHAOS A BIT BETTER. AND SOME THINGS I NEED TO PUT IN PLACE. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. I SPOKE WITH HIM AGAIN THIS PAST MONDAY AT THE APACHE APPALACHIAN SCHOOL, HAD THE SHOOTING. SO WE'RE TRYING TO SET SOMETHING UP WHERE WE CAN GO IN AND REALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL THE ADMINISTRATORS, WE'RE WORKING ON AREAS OF CENTRAL AVENUE A LOT, WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE BEFORE, SO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT, PLUS OUR TRAFFIC UNIT IS REALLY TRYING TO CLEAN THIS AREA UP ONCE AND FOR ALL. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO IT DO A NUISANCE VIOLATION. SO I'M GOING TO GO STRAIGHT INTO CODE ENFORCEMENT. OUR SUPERVISOR FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS RETIRED. WILL BE POSTING THE POSITION. WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE PLACE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO POST THIS POSITION, TO GIVE EVERYONE A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN CODE ENFORCEMENT, INCLUDING ABATEMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TRY TO FIND THE BEST CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO TAKE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL. WE KNOW THE ISSUES AND THE CONSTANT CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST CODE ENFORCEMENT AROUND. SO BY HAVING BETTER SUPERVISION THINGS OF THIS NATURE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. SO I CAN'T WAIT TILL WE GET THAT POSITION FILLED. WE HAVEN'T POSTED IT YET BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AVENUES, BUT THEY'LL BE POSTED BY THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. IN TERMS OF YOU SAID, BANK OWNED HOUSES AND SQUATTERS. SO JUST GO TO MY PHONE HERE. YOU GOT A WE FINALLY HAVE, GOTTEN THE PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THE SQUATTER SITUATION. AND AS WE'RE DEALING WITH ONE RIGHT NOW. SO THE SQUATTER SITUATION IS A TWO STEP PROCESS. OKAY, SO WE GET A PHONE CALL OF A SQUATTER, AND WE'RE GOING TO POST THIS IN A UTILITY BILLS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. AND THEY SAID WE BELIEVE THERE'S A SQUATTER AT THIS RESIDENCE. FIRST OF ALL WE HAVE TO VERIFY WHETHER OR NOT THE OWNER, IF THE PERSON IS LEGALLY SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, WE ONCE WE GO TO THE HOUSE, WE KNOCK ON THE DOOR. 
          THEY HAVE THREE DAYS TO APPEAR BEFORE ME OR MY DESIGNEE WITH A LEASE. A VALID LEASE. OKAY IF THEY DO NOT APPEAR, THEY IMMEDIATELY ARE CITED TO GO TO COURT. ONCE THEY APPEAR. IF THE LEASE IS VALID, WE HAVE VERIFIED IT THROUGH THE OWNER. IT'S NOT A SQUATTER. IF THE LEASE IS NOT VALID, WE JUST GOT OUR CITATION. ACTUALLY, WE SHOULD HAVE THE CITATIONS FROM FULTON COUNTY NEXT WEEK. WE WILL GIVE THEM A CITATION. THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE FULTON COUNTY COURT. THEY ALSO ARE GIVEN A CRIMINAL CITATION AS WELL. ONCE THEY GO TO THE COURT, THE COURT DEALS WITH IT, WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. THAT'S THE LAW. ONCE THE COURT DEALS WITH IT AND SAY, HEY, YOU MUST MOVE. THIS IS 
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WHERE THE OWNER OF THE RESIDENCE COMES INTO PLACE. THEY HAVE TO SCHEDULE WITH US OR THE MARSHALS AND HAVE A COMPANY AVAILABLE AND A CLEANUP COMPANY TO EVICT THESE INDIVIDUALS. SO ONCE THAT OCCURS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE EVICTED. BUT ALSO WE HAVE A CRIMINAL PROCESS WHERE THEY ALSO HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE CRIMINAL CITATIONS AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO POST THIS WHOLE PROCESS IN THE NEWSLETTERS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. BUT THAT'S WHAT'S THE PROCESS SO FAR. I WORKED WITH SOUTH FULTON IN REFERENCE TO THIS BECAUSE THEY GOT STARTED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN WE DID, AND THEY'RE GETTING A COURT CASES IN SEVEN DAYS. THEY'VE ALSO GIVEN ME THE INFORMATION THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND WHO TO SPEAK TO, TO MAKE SURE WE GET OUR STUFF DONE IN SEVEN DAYS AS WELL. SO WE WILL PUT THE PROCESS IN THE UTILITY BILLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND WE'RE DEALING WITH ONE TODAY. ACTUALLY, THIS IS OUR TRULY FIRST SQUATTER THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION, IN REFERENCE TO BANK OWNED HOUSES, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST. IN THE PAST, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT EVERY, VACANT HOUSE PRETTY MUCH REGISTERED THROUGH, PLANNING AND ZONING. WHAT IS OUR PROCESS? AND HAVE THAT STARTED, WHEN IT COMES TO REGISTERING THESE HOUSES AND HOW CAN WE WORK WITH THE HOUSES, THE BANK OWNED HOUSES OR THE INVESTORS TO POSSIBLY SELL THE HOMES, FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. AND I KNOW, ATLANTA HAS A PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE OFFERING, AND I HEARD IT ON THE NEWS. I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT THEY ARE BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSES, SO HOW CAN WE TAKE SOME OF THESE BANK OWNED PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT OR MAYBE EVEN PROPERTY OFF THE 50 WORDS AND, HELP FIRST RESPONDERS, TEACHERS, EDUCATORS, NURSES TO MOVE IN THESE HOUSES. 
          SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, WE DO IS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE KEEPING A LIST OF ALL THE BANK OWNED HOUSES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, UPDATING AND TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO OWNS WHAT HOUSE. WE ALSO ARE HIRING THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. THE, AT LEAST, OR THE BUILDING HOMEOWNER SEARCH TO FIND OUT WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE TITLE SEARCH TO ACTUALLY FIND OUT WHO OWNS THESE HOUSES. SO THE CITY OF ATLANTA AND OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE EXACTLY THAT. 
          NOW, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I LOOKED AT BEFORE IS ON THE 50 WORST PROPERTIES A LOT OF THOSE HOMES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CONDEMNED. MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE CONDEMNING SOME, CONDEMNED ONE LAST WEEK. SO TO ME, THAT'S THE EASIER PATH TO TAKE IN TERMS OF RENOVATING THOSE HOUSES TO POLICE OFFICERS, SCHOOL TEACHERS AND ANY, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVANT, BECAUSE THOSE PROBLEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEEMED CONDEMNED THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH THE PROPERTY. SO I WILL HAVE TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THE ACTUAL PROCESS IT NEEDS TO TAKE. BUT I KNOW ATLANTA IS DOING THAT AS WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY ATTORNEY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I CAN WAIT IF IT DOESN'T MATTER. OKAY, YOU CAN GO. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT YOUR VACANT PROPERTY REGISTER IS REGISTRY IS NOT JUST FOR BANK OWNED HOUSING. IT'S FOR ANY VACANT HOUSE. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED. SO IF JOHN DOE OWNS A HOUSE AND IT'S VACANT, YOUR VACANT PROPERTY REGISTRY IN SECTION SEVEN, DASH 8001 REQUIRES REGISTRATION OF VACANT AND FORECLOSED SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. AND I THINK THAT'S MAYBE WHERE THE BANK OWNED COMES FROM BECAUSE OF THE FORECLOSURE PART, THE SECOND THING IS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT VACANT HOUSES, NOT ONES THAT ARE OCCUPIED, AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT, 50 WORSE PROPERTIES ARE VACANT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO BE ON THE 50 WORST LIST, WITH RESPECT TO MARKETING THESE HOMES TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR TEACHERS, IF THEY'RE PRIVATELY OWNED, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO DO. 
          BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PROPERTY OWNERS CAN DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO SELL THEIR HOMES TO, I'M NOT SURE IF FULTON COUNTY HAS A LAND BANK OR, THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE FOR US TO INVESTIGATE, TO LOOK INTO GETTING, PROPERTIES POTENTIALLY WITH THE LAND BANK SO YOU CAN KIND OF STEER THEM IN A DIRECTION OF HAVING THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS FOR, FIRST 
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RESPONDERS, TEACHERS, THAT KIND OF THING. SO TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT, WE DO HAVE, FULTON COUNTY LAND BANK AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING IF WE CAN, AT LEAST START A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO SEE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IF THEY WANT TO POSSIBLY WORK WITH THE CITY TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES? ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES WHEN PEOPLE DON'T REGISTER? SO IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE CODE, THEY ARE NOT COMPLYING WITH THIS SECTION. THEN THEY CAN BE CITED AND IT WOULD BE A CODE VIOLATION THAT'S ADJUDICATED IN OUR MUNICIPAL COURT. SO ONCE YOU ALL NOTIFY THEM OR FIND OUT WHO OWNS THE HOUSE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO NOTIFY THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO REGISTER. IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE CITED AND HAVE TO COME TO COURT AND PAY A FINE. CORRECT OKAY. WELL, THEY HAVE DUE PROCESS, SO NOT NECESSARILY COME TO COURT AND PAY A FINE. THEY CAN CERTAINLY PLEAD NOT GUILTY AND HAVE A TRIAL. YOU KNOW THEY CAN. YEAH. BUT DUE PROCESS. YES. BUT THERE IS A PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO IF THEY DON'T COMPLY. THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER LISBON. YES. THANK YOU, SO GOING BACK TO JUST IN GENERAL UPDATE ON POLICING, I KNOW THAT, THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME, ISSUES HERE AND THERE ON, YOU KNOW, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE KIND OF WITH, DISPATCHERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ANSWERING 911 PHONE CALLS. AND I'VE RECEIVED A FEW COMPLAINTS, REGARDING THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED LAST MONDAY WHERE THE GEORGIA POWER LINES FELL DOWN. AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT, RESIDENTS WERE CALLING 911, AND THEY FELT LIKE THE, THE OPERATOR WAS KIND OF BRUSHING THEM OFF. AND THEN IT TOOK, AN OFFICER ABOUT 45 MINUTES TO COME AND BLOCK OFF THE STREET BECAUSE, SO ON, ON ROCKWOOD, I THINK IT'S DRIVE, POWER LINES WERE DANGLING DOWN OR HANGING DOWN AND IT, I MEAN, THEY WERE DANGLING SO LOW THAT, YOU KNOW, A TALLER TRUCK COULD HAVE HIT, COULD HAVE HIT IT AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LIVE WIRE, SO ALL THOSE ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, HUGE SAFETY CONCERNS. AND SO IT'S JUST CONCERNING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE THAT THE OPERATOR KIND OF BRUSHED IT OFF. AND THEN THERE WAS WHAT SEEMED LIKE A REALLY LONG RESPONSE TIME. SO IN TERMS OF THE 911 CALLS, IT WAS FLOODED WHEN THAT HAPPENED. ANYTIME A MAJOR INCIDENT LINES DOWN, FIRE, IT WAS FLOODED. THEY GET FLOODED WITH PHONE CALLS. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE NEXT PHONE CALL, GET TO THE NEXT PHONE CALL BECAUSE PHONE CALLS ARE CONSTANTLY RINGING. BUT WE STILL MUST BE PROFESSIONAL. SO I'M GLAD YOU TOLD ME THAT. IN REFERENCE TO HOW LONG IT TOOK, THERE WAS A FIRE INVOLVED. SO THOSE POLICE OFFICERS FIRST HAD TO GO AND ASSIST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH BLOCKING OFF STREETS AND ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE. SO THAT'S WHY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THEM TO GET TO THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, BECAUSE WE STILL HAD CALLS, BUT WE HAD TO TAKE SEVERAL UNITS OUT OF SERVICE TO DEAL WITH THE FIRE AS WELL. OKAY, SO THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT COULD BLOCK OFF THE OTHER STREET WHERE THERE WASN'T A FIRE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS STILL A LOT AT THAT TIME. NO, NO, I WOULD TELL YOU. SO, BASED ON OUR PERSONNEL ON THE STREET, THEY STILL HAVE OTHER CALLS. SO WHEN A FIRE OR SOMETHING MAJOR LIKE THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE TO SHIFT OUR SERVICES TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE FIRE. BUT THE OTHER OFFICERS ARE STILL HANDLING 911 CALLS AS WELL, BECAUSE A LITTLE BIT BUSY. SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. SO IT TOOK A LONG TIME BECAUSE WE HAD ABOUT 4 OR 5 OFFICERS AT THE FIRE. SO THEY COULDN'T LEAVE THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER OFFICERS WITH THE LINES, THEY WERE ANSWERING CALLS IN TERMS OF DAY TO DAY ACTIVITY CALLS. SO ONCE THE FIRE IS UNDER CONTROL A LITTLE BIT, THEN WE JUST HAD THOSE OFFICERS MOVED TO WHERE THE LINE IS. AND IT WAS SEVERAL LINES. IT WASN'T JUST THAT ONE, IT WAS SEVERAL LINES DOWN AT THE TIME WHEN THAT OCCURRED. OKAY OKAY, THANKS. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, CHIEF. BUT, I THINK THAT THIS QUESTION IS FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW IS IF SOMEONE WHO OWNS A PROPERTY, I GUESS PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE WAS SAYING, I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF RENTAL HOMES OR RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO SOLICIT THE HELP OF MAYBE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN RENTING TO A POLICE OFFICER OR A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. YEAH THAT'S MY 
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FIRST QUESTION. MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THOSE VACANT PROPERTIES, CONTACTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO RENT TO A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE. YES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT INITIALLY. THAT GIVES ME SOME PAUSE. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. BUT THE MECHANISM FOR REACHING OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE TO SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU RENT TO, YOU KNOW, MR. OR MRS. TEACHER OR OFFICER SO AND SO. YEAH OKAY. SO THEN MY SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION IS I KNOW IN THE CITY OF BROOKHAVEN, IN DUNWOODY, THEY GIVE THEIR POLICE OFFICERS HOUSING STIPENDS. OKAY, IN I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WAS IT DEBBIE DOWNER, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GRATUITY ISSUE, POTENTIALLY, IN, IN THAT INSTANCE, BUT AGAIN, NOT IMPOSSIBLE. BUT I WOULD NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT THE TERMS ARE AROUND THIS TO AVOID A GRATUITY ISSUE, AVOID, YOU KNOW, FAVORING ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE OVER ANOTHER. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT THAT THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT, SINCE FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER WITH ATLANTA, NOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BROOKHAVEN, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON IT, SO I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. NO PROBLEM. SO THEY DO IT AS A BENEFIT PACKAGE FOR OFFICERS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY, AND COLLEGE PARK. JUST THEY I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE STILL DOING IT, BUT THEY WAS DOING THE FREE UTILITIES FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT LIVED IN THE CITY. SO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WERE OCCURRING WITHIN THOSE CITIES. SO THEY DID IT AS A BENEFIT PACKAGE, AS AN INCENTIVE TO GET MORE OFFICERS TO LIVE IN THE CITY. AND IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT BEFORE, I DO KNOW WHEN WE CONDEMN A HOME THROUGH THE 50 WORST PROPERTIES, I THINK THAT'S WHEN THOSE OTHER CITIES HAVE TRANSITIONED. FOR EXAMPLE, WE CONDEMNED THE HOME LAST WEEK ON HARLAN DRIVE. SO ONCE WE DO THOSE THINGS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE A PERSON, FOR EXAMPLE, RENT TO MAYBE A POLICE OFFICER, BUT A LOT OF THAT IS DONE THROUGH THE COURT BECAUSE WE'RE FINING THEM AND WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING HOUSES FROM THEM. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE BEST AVENUE THAT I CAN DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT AS WELL. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS THE FOLLOW UP FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE GOING OUT WITH OFFICERS. I THINK THE MAYOR MENTIONED INTERNS. YES. FOR THAT. CAN YOU GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND THEN THAT'S IT. OH, IT'S NO PROBLEM. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THOSE THINGS. HOWEVER YOLANDA JOHNSON, WHO'S OUR HOUSING COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, SHE HAS BEEN. AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS, BUT I REACHED OUT TO HER. SHE HAS BEEN COMING ON SEVERAL MENTAL HEALTH CALLS TRYING TO FACILITATE SITUATIONS AND OFFER SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS. SO SHE HAS BEEN A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN THAT AREA. WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN PERSON, BUT SHE'S BEEN COMING IN AT NIGHT WHEN WE CALL HER AND WE'RE RESPONDING TO ASSIST US IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU. OH, YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND TO PIGGYBACK OFF THE QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO THE POWER OUTAGE, THIS QUESTION ACTUALLY CAME UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING LAST WEEK. AND I REALLY WISH SOMEONE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS HERE. THEY COULD HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, BUT THE BUT THE QUESTION WAS FIRST, THOSE WERE NOT EASTPOINTE POWER LINES THAT FAILED. THERE WERE GEORGIA POWER POWER LINES AND THOSE POWER LINES WAS HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES. AND THEY COULDN'T GO IN RIGHT AWAY. THEY HAD TO WAIT TILL SOMEBODY CAME, I BELIEVE, FROM GEORGIA POWER, TO ASSESS THOSE POWER LINES BECAUSE THEY WAS HIGH VOLTAGE. THAT IS WHY IT TOOK THEM A WHILE OR A MINUTE TO DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO. THOSE WERE HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES, AND THEY COULD JUST GO TOUCH GEORGIA POWER'S POWER LINE. THEY HAD TO CALL GEORGIA POWER FOR GEORGIA POWER TO COME OUT HERE AND ASSESS THEIR POWER LINES. AND THEY HAD MANY FIRES BECAUSE ONE ACTUALLY HIT A FENCE AND CAUSED THE FIRE. AND THAT IS WHAT WAS TOLD TO US AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF SOMEONE FROM FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN ATTEND THESE MEETINGS FOR QUESTIONS LIKE THIS. WHEN THEY COME UP, THEY CAN EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED. AND I WILL TELL YOU, GEORGIA POWER ALSO CONTACTED ME AND I KNOW THEY ALSO CONTACTED THE MAYOR AS WELL. AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. AND WE'RE NOT SPEAKING TO COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. THAT WAS I PROBABLY UNDERSCORED HOW 
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MANY FIRES THERE WAS, BUT IT WAS A LOT. IT SURE WAS. UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE WAS SAYING, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM EAST POINT POWER, SO MAYBE THEY CAN COME UP AND JUST SORT OF, IF IT PLEASES COUNCIL. WELL, THERE IS AN ITEM AT THE END ABOUT POWER OUTAGES AND ISSUES, THAT ARE NOT, OKAY. YEAH. ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE, MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THI, BECAUSE THERE ARE QUESTIONS COMING UP ABOUT THE SAFETY CONCERNS FROM THE FIRES CAUSED BY GEORGIA POWER TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION LINES, MAYBE WE BRING THEM UP NOW IF WE NEED TO GET INTO FURTHER DISCUSSION. IF IT STARTS GETTING EXTENDED, WE WILL CONTINUE THE REST OF IT LATER. MR. MANGRUM. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, THE POWER OUTAGE, THE TRANSMISSION LINES THAT FELL ON, LAST WEEK. THE PROBLEM WAS THERE WAS A TREE THAT FELL ON HOGAN ROAD, NOT WAS IT DODSON DRIVE? THE TREE FELL ON DODSON DRIVE, WHICH KNOCKED DOWN THE DISTRIBUTION LINES AND THE TRANSMISSION LINES WHICH CAUSED THAT. ONCE I ARRIVED ON SITE, I CONTACTED GEORGIA POWER AND LET THEM KNOW I DID CONFIRM WITH THEM THAT THE THAT THE BREAKER WAS OPEN, BUT THE WIRES STILL HAD STATIC ON IT. THE MAJORITY OF THE FIRE WAS CAUSED BY STATIC, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M STILL WORKING ON THE DETAILS FROM THEM. AS FAR AS FINALIZING WITH US ANOTHER REPORT FROM THE. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN, NO, I JUST JUST TO KIND OF JUST SOME CLARIFICATION TO WHAT, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE SAID, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, I DEFINITELY APPLAUD, EAST POINT POWER, OUR GUYS, FOR BEING OUT THERE. THEY STARTED THEIR SHIFT THAT MORNING, AND A LOT OF THOSE GUYS WORK. THEY PUT IN 26 PLUS HOURS AND I CAN SAY, FROM MR. HICKS OUT THERE, HE WENT IN AT 4:00 THE MORNING OF. CORRECT. AND IT WAS THE VERY NEXT DAY. AND I ASKED HIM, WHAT TIME WAS HE GETTING OFF? HE SAID, 4:00 THE AFTERNOON. YES. SO THOSE GUYS PUT IN SOME HOURS. SO HATS OFF TO YOU AND YOUR CREW. I MEAN THEY THEY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. I MEAN, JUST TRYING TO RESTORE POWER BECAUSE I MEAN IT AND YOU KNOW, POWER LINES ARE DOWN. EVEN AFTER WE LEFT THE COUNCIL MEETING, MY HUSBAND AND I, WE JUST KIND OF WENT OUT AND JUST WALKED. AND JUST TO SEE THOSE HEAVY LINES DOWN THE GEORGIA POWER LINES ON TOP OF POWER LINES. AND THERE WERE POLICE OFFICERS SITTING THERE BECAUSE I WENT AND WE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THE OFFICERS BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM US. BUT JUST HATS OFF TO JUST CITY. YOU KNOW, JUST THE CITY WORKERS. YOU GUYS ARE TRULY, YOU KNOW, BOOTS ON THE GROUND. AND YOU GUYS DID A PHENOMENAL JOB FOR EVERYTHING. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS UNCHARTED TERRITORY. WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT BEFORE. BUT JUST TO KIND OF I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL SOME TAKEAWAYS AND THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD ALWAYS IMPROVE ON. BUT I MEAN JUST OVERALL IT WAS A PHENOMENAL JOB DONE BY EVERYONE. WELL THANK YOU COUNCIL. YEAH, SO HOW MANY STREETS DID THE HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES THAT WERE LIVE CROSSOVER. HOW MANY STREETS? I THINK I COUNTED LIKE SIX. IT WAS SIX STREETS. SO WHAT WE HAD TO DO, WE HAD TO ISOLATE OUR STREETS BECAUSE GEORGIA POWER LINES WAS ON TOP OF OUR LINES AS WELL. SO WHAT WE HAD TO DO, WE HAD TO GO AND ISOLATE, ISOLATE EACH ONE OF THOSE STREETS. SO OUR POWER WHEN WE CAME OUT WITH OUR CIRCUIT, IT WOULD NOT ENERGIZE GEORGIA POWER LINES OR ANY OTHER OTHER LINES THAT THAT ARE ON THOSE STREETS. SO THAT'S WHAT TOOK US SO LONG TO GET THE POWER RESTORED, BECAUSE EITHER WE HAD TO CUT JUMPER JUMPERS OR OPEN UP SWITCHES. SO THE, MOST OF THEM WE HAD TO CUT WE HAD TO CUT JUMPERS. OKAY. AND I SO MY, MY CONCERN WAS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE KNOW THAT THESE LIVE HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES ARE CROSSING SIX STREETS, WE, WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, PROBABLY DO SOMETHING TO BLOCK THOSE OFF SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T GO DOWN THEM RIGHT, ARE WE I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. ARE WE GOING TO GO INTO ITEM NUMBER 38 RIGHT NOW OR. NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A MORE DETAILED DISCUSSION, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I JUST THAT ONE. JUST THAT ONE, WELL, JUST THAT ONE. NUMBER 34. NUMBER 38. OH, JUST 38. YES WE CAN I THINK I HAD A QUESTION. I HAVE A 
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PUBLIC SAFETY QUESTION, DO WE KNOW HOW THE FIREFIGHTER WHO WAS INJURED IS DOING? AND I KNOW, CHIEF, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOUR DEPARTMENT. MR. BROWN. DO YOU KNOW HOW THE EMPLOYEE IS DOING, MISS JESSIE? NO, I DON'T, I JUST KNOW THAT WE HAD A FIREFIGHTER THAT WAS INJURED, THEY HAD SOME SORT OF ANKLE BREAK, AND. BUT I'M CERTAIN THAT I COULD GET YOU THAT INFORMATION TOMORROW. EMAIL IT TO THE COUNCIL. HE'S RECOVERING. I CAN TELL I SPOKE WITH THE CHIEF ABOUT IT. OKAY. GO AHEAD. CHIEF, I SPOKE WITH THE CHIEF AND HE ADVISED ME HE'S RECOVERING. HE'S RECOVERING. OKAY. YEAH. GREAT JOB ON. I JUST HEARD IT WAS FIVE YEARS EVERYWHERE, AND SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE STAFF AND THEY HAVE TO PRIORITIZE, AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WERE MULTIPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES AT THE SAME TIME, AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON, THANK GOD WE ONLY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MAJOR INJURIES. AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE FIREFIGHTER IS RECOVERING, AND DIDN'T SUFFER A MAJOR INJURY. BUT THAT IS, DEFINITELY CHALLENGING. AND I SPOKE WITH I REACHED OUT TO GEORGIA POWER TO TALK ABOUT MORE COLLABORATIVE COMMUNICATION, AND BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE INFORMATION READY TO SHARE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY MAKE ABOUT WHO'S AT FAULT. AND IT'S ALWAYS THIS AND ALWAYS THAT. A LOT OF NEGATIVITY. BUT I THINK, HAVING ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT WAS A GEORGIA POWER SITUATION, THEIR TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION LINES FALLING ON OUR LINES. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE TREE CAME FROM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL GET TO A PLACE WHERE RESIDENTS WILL ASSUME GOODWILL, AND KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING ALL THAT YOU CAN, TO ENSURE ONE, THAT THAT EVERYONE IS SAFE IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT WE ARE ASKING OUR STAFF, OUR STAFF IS BEING REQUIRED TO GO IN SOME VERY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. AND HAVE TO PRIORITIZE SAFETY AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. SO THANK YOU TO THE LEADERSHIP FROM, POWER POLICE. FIRE, AND EVERYONE WHO LIKE, REALLY DEALT WITH A SITUATION WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT TYPE OF RAMPANT FIRES IN THE TEN AND A HALF, ALMOST 11 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, AND SO BUT MOVING FORWARD, I HAVE ASKED GEORGIA POWER TO BE MORE COLLABORATIVE IN THE COMMUNICATION. AND I THINK FROM A EASTPOINTE POWER PERSPECTIVE AS WELL, LIKE WHEN WE KNOW EARLY ON BECAUSE WHEN THE COMMUNICATION WENT OUT, THERE WASN'T AN INDICATION ABOUT GEORGIA POWER, BEING A PART OR LIKE WHAT WHAT REALLY WAS GOING ON. IT WAS MORE LIKE, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. THE TRANSMISSION LINES FELL ON. THERE WAS A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LACK OF STAFF, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. AND ALL OF THAT. AND THEN PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GRID THAT EXISTS IN OUR CITY HAS MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS ON EAST ONE POWER, BUT THERE'S ALSO GEORGIA POWER LINES THAT THAT MEADOWLARK STATION DOESN'T EVEN SERVE. EAST POINT RESIDENTS. RIGHT. IT'S I'M NOT SURE. AND THEY HAVEN'T TOLD ME YET WHERE IT SERVES, BUT IT DOESN'T SERVE THE PEOPLE AROUND THERE, PEOPLE AROUND THERE ON EAST POINT POWER, AND SO THERE ARE A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION, AND SHARING MORE INFORMATION. AND AGAIN, IF WE KNOW AT THE BEGINNING, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT THE WHAT WAS CAUSED, WHOSE LINES ARE IMPACTED, I THINK IF WE JUST SHARED THAT IN THE COMMUNICATION, I KNOW COMMUNICATION, WAS HELPFUL WITH GOING BACK IN AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THROUGH TALKING WITH YOU ALL. BUT, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE COLLABORATION AND COMMUNICATION FROM GEORGIA POWER. YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A MEETING WITH GEORGIA POWER ON THURSDAY, A LUNCHEON TO DISCUSS THE NEXT STEPS. WHEN AN EVENT LIKE THIS HAPPEN. SO WE ARE ALREADY ON TOP OF THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 38, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT SO MR. MANGRUM CAN LEAVE. I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY THAT WE'RE DONE WITH NUMBER 38. 
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I SAID WE 38. SO THAT MR. MANGRUM ONLY. OKAY. GOTCHA. YEAH I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. CHIEF THANK YOU, INTERIM CITY MANAGER. I BELIEVE, MR. MANGRUM, PREPARED SOME ANSWERS, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, YEAH, I THINK HE HAS A PRESENTATION. I HAVE A PRESENTATION, TO QUEUE IT UP. 
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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGAIN, POWER OUTAGES, ISSUES AND CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT, HOW MANY POWER OUTAGES HAVE THERE BEEN IN THE CITY SINCE JANUARY FIRST, 2020 FOR A TOTAL OF 22 OUTAGES, CAUSES, 16 TREES, THREE MECHANICAL HARDWARE FAILURE, TWO PLANT OUTAGE OUTAGES, ONE CAR ACCIDENT. NOW, THIS INFORMATION ONLY PERTAINS TO, SUBSTATION OUTAGES. NOT FEEDER OUTAGES. OR, JUST BREAK OUT. THIS ONLY BREAK OUTAGES. CIRCUIT OUTAGES, WHERE HAVE THE OUTAGES OCCURRED IN THE CITY THIS, THIS YEAR? SEVEN AT WILLINGHAM SUBSTATION, SIX AT OAK OAKLEY DRIVE SUBSTATION THREE AT GROVE SUBSTATION THREE AT BEN HILL SUBSTATION THREE AT LAKEMONT SUBSTATION AND TWO AT WICKHAM SUBSTATION. AND ONCE AGAIN, INFORMATION ONLY CONTAINS THE BREAKER OUTAGES FROM THE SUBSTATION, WHILE THE WHILE THE OUTAGES ARE WIDESPREAD ALRIGHT, THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HAS SIX ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, THE NUMBER OF CIRCUITS. WE HAVE 20 CIRCUITS, AVERAGE CUSTOMERS PER CIRCUIT RANGES ANYWHERE BETWEEN 600 TO 1000. SO IF WE LOSE ONE CIRCUIT, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN HAVE A THOUSAND CUSTOMERS OUT AT ONE TIME. SO HOW CAN WE ELIMINATE THAT, WITH OUR SYSTEM STUDY THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, WE THERE WILL BE WAYS THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD GO IN AND ASK, WHICH IS THAT IF THE BACK HALF GO OUT AND THEN THE FRONT HALF WILL STAY ON. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. BUT ONCE WE, LOOK INTO OUR SYSTEM STUDY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO THE SYSTEM, THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE AT, AT GROVE SUBSTATION. THE CAUSE WAS A HARDWARE HARDWARE FAILURE. IT WAS A LOOSE CONNECTION. LOOSE, CONNECTED. THAT LED TO THE WIRE OVERHEATING, WHICH THEN CAUSED THE REGULATOR TO WIRE TO BURN LOOSE, WHEN THAT WHEN THAT WIRE BURNT LOOSE, IT CONTINUED TO BE HOT. SO IT CAUSED THE REGULATOR TO HEAT UP AND EVENTUALLY CAUSED A FIRE TO THE, TO THE GROUND. AND THAT'S HOW THE FIRE STARTED. ALL RIGHT. REGARDING THE GEORGIA POWER LINES THAT FELL ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S THE TREE THAT FELL WHICH CAUSED THIS, THIS PROBLEM. THE TREE FELL ACROSS THE, DISTRIBUTION LINES AND THE TRANSMISSION LINES. ALL RIGHT. DANGER TREE REMOVAL, OUR CITY OFFICERS ARE ACTIVELY, ASSESSING TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT COULD COULD POSE A RISK TO OUR PRIMARY POWER LINES. HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT, ARE NOTIFIED IF A TREE IS DEEMED A THREAT TO OUR PRIMARY POWER LINES. FROM AUGUST THE 1ST, 2004 TO PRESENT, WE HAVE INVESTED OVER $495,000 IN THIS ONGOING DANGER TREE REMOVAL PROJECT. DO WE NEED TO UPGRADE OUR POLES FROM THE SHORT LIVED ONES TO THE TALL METAL ONES? WOULD THAT HELP WITH FALLEN TREES? BECAUSE THE LINES WOULD BE TALLER THAN THE TREES, OUR CURRENT BUCKET TRUCKS HAVE A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 55FT, THE INSTALLATIONS ARE TALLER. POLES WOULD CALL FOR US TO PURCHASE A NEW EQUIPMENT THAT COULD REACH THOSE GREATER HEIGHTS, WITH POLES. PRICE IS RANGES FROM 200 TO $500. METAL POLE COSTS 1000 TO $3000. SO THAT WOULD BE A BIG COST DIFFERENCE IN PURCHASING METAL POLES. ALL RIGHT. UNDERGROUND LINES BURYING POWER LINES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN PHASE ONE, OF BEN HILL ROAD UP TO HEADLAND DRIVE. WHAT? THAT WOULD, AT LEAST IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE NEXT ONE. SO HERE'S THE ROUTE THAT WE WOULD TAKE FOR THIS, FOR, FOR THE SUBSTATION FROM THE SUBSTATION, AT 2222 BEN ROAD TO THE WEST OF MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE WOULD TAKE THE ROUTE FOR THE UNDERGROUND LINES UP, U, UP BEN HILL ROAD TO HEADLAND DRIVE. AND THEN FROM HEADLAND DRIVE TO, TO WEST MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          THAT'S WHERE OUR SWITCHES ARE, REPLACING TRANSFORMERS AND DAMAGED POLES. THE TRANSFORMERS LIFE EXPECTANCY IS, RANGES ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 25 YEARS. WHEN WE REPLACE TRANSFORMERS, THEY'RE EITHER DAMAGED, THEY'RE LEAKING, WHAT CAUSES CAR ACCIDENTS, MOISTURE, ETCETERA. 
          ALL CAN PLAY A PART IN FAILING TRANSFORMERS, WHAT CAUSES POWER SURGES? POWER SURGES CAN BE 
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CAUSED BY SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE. LIGHTNING STRIKES IS THE MAIN ONE, POWER OUTAGE AND RESTORATION. WHEN WE RESTORE THE POWER, THERE'S, LIKE A DIP IN VOLTAGE, THAT COULD TAKE PLACE. IT COULD TAKE PLACE TO THE AFFECTED CUSTOMERS, TO THE CUSTOMERS THAT WERE NOT AFFECTED BY THE OUTAGE. FAULTS IN THE ELECTRICAL GRID, SHORT CIRCUITS, DOWNED POWER LINES WHEN A POWER LINE FALLS AND CAUSES A GET GROUND TO THE CAUSE, A FAULT, YOU CAN SEE A DIP IN VOLTAGE THERE, HIGH POWERED ELECTRICAL DEVICES LIKE LARGE APPLIANCES, REFRIGERATORS, AIR CONDITIONERS AND INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT, PROBLEM WITH THE ELECTRICAL WIRING ISSUES, A LOOSE CONNECTOR, DAMAGED WIRES OR FAULTY WIRING. I ADVISE CUSTOMERS IF YOU IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GETTING MULTIPLE FAULT, POWER SURGES, JUST EMAIL US AT. POWER OUTAGE AT EASTPOINT DOT EASTPOINT CITY.ORG AND JUST LEAVE US. GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN OUR TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK UP YOUR METER THROUGH OUR TALENTED SYSTEM. WHERE ARE WE WITH THE UTILITY RATE STUDY, CITY OF EASTPOINT IS ON THE QUEUE FOR AN ELECTRIC STUDY WITH ECG. THIS IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN JANUARY 2025. LAST THE LAST RATE STUDY THAT I FOUND, FROM, FOR WATER AND ELECTRIC, WAS COMPLETED BY BURNS AND MCDONALD, IN AUGUST OF 2000, 2018. NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT ANOTHER ONE OUT THERE, BUT THAT WAS THE LAST ONE THAT I WAS ABLE TO LOCATE. ALL RIGHT, UTILITY HALL, IMMA HAVE AT LEAST TWO PERSONS SPEAK ON UTILITY TALK. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LISA PARSONS. I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR CITY OF EASTPOINT. EASTPOINT POWER. THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A SYSTEM THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY TEXT CUSTOMERS AND SHOW AN OUTAGE MAP AND ESTIMATED RESTORATION TIME THAT THE CITY CAN USE? RIGHT NOW WE HAVE LAUNCHED AN APP CALLED UTILITY HAWK. IT WAS LAUNCHED ON JULY 1ST OF 2024. THIS APP IS WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING SO THAT THE CUSTOMERS CAN BE NOTIFIED BY TEXT MESSAGES ABOUT OUTAGES. THEY CAN ALSO VIEW THEIR WATER CONSUMPTION, RECEIVE TIMELY LURK LEAK ALERTS. I'M SORRY. CUSTOMIZED ALERT SETTINGS, PRETTY SOON WE HAVE, PREPAY ONLINE COMING. THOSE THE BROCHURES FOR THIS WERE MAILED OUT IN ABOUT THE AUGUST OF SEPTEMBER BILLS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 475 USERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IT FOR THE IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS, WE ARE TESTING IT RIGHT NOW IN THE TESTING PHASES OF USING IT AS AN OUTAGE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM, WHICH MEANS THAT IF CUSTOMERS SIGN UP AND OPT IN FOR MESSAGES, THEY WILL RECEIVE MESSAGES ABOUT OUTAGES THAT WILL COME DIRECTLY TO THEIR PHONES. BUT THEY DO HAVE TO ACTUALLY SIGN UP FOR IT. AT THE TOP, WHERE YOU SEE THE QR CODE, THEY CAN ACTUALLY, ZONE, YOU KNOW, GO ON THEIR CAMERAS AND SCAN IT AND IT'LL TAKE THEM TO THE PAGE WHERE THEY CAN SIGN UP. I'M ALSO HAVING LEAFLETS AND BANNERS AT CUSTOMER SERVICE. SO WHEN THEY WALK IN TO PAY THEIR BILLS, THEY WILL BE THERE LOCATED FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO WE'RE STILL GROWING. WE ARE USING THE UTILITY HAWK APP, WE'RE PLANNING A ZOOM CALL FOR CLIENTS. I'M SORRY, FOR CUSTOMERS AND CITIZENS WHERE WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE FROM UTILITY HAWK TO COME ON AND ACTUALLY SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO SIGN UP AND HOW TO USE THE APP. IT IS A WEB BASED APP. IT'S NOT AN APP THAT THEY HAVE TO DOWNLOAD, SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE IN THE TESTING PHASES FOR, TO USE AS OUR COMMUNICATION TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT OUTAGES. THE DEVELOPERS OF UTILITY HAWK ARE IN THE WORKS OF USING IT AS AN OUTAGE MAP, SUCH AS WHAT GEORGIA POWER USES, WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THE OUTAGE IS, THEY HAVE NOT GONE LIVE WITH THAT YET, BUT THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING TO GO LIVE WITH THAT SOMETIME IN 2025. OKAY, SO THAT'S IT. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YES. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE TALKING ABOUT BURYING POWER LINES? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM, SO CAN YOU TELL TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO AND WHAT THEY ENTAIL. OKAY FIRST ONE IS, IT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START FROM THE SUBSTATION AND GO OUT TO, HEADLAND DRIVE. WHAT IS ENTAILED, WE HAVE IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, LISA FCSB, THERE THE, THERE ARE THE GROUP THAT DID OUR, THE ENGINEERING, THE DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT. AND PIKE PIKE ELECTRIC WILL BE DOING THE, THE WORK FOR IT, WHAT IS ENTAILED IS GOING TO TAKE OUR OVERHEAD CIRCUITS AND PLACE THOSE LINES UNDERGROUND. ONLY FOR OUR PRIMARY LINES, NOT OUR SECONDARY. MAINLY TO PROTECT 
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OUR, OUR CIRCUIT AND OUR MAIN, PRIMARY LINES. SO ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO INTO PHASE ONE IS COMPLETE. WE HAVE TO DO A COST ANALYSIS TO SEE HOW MUCH IT COSTS FOR PHASE ONE. AND THEN WE CAN POSSIBLY WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND GIVE THEM THAT REPORT. AND LET THEM KNOW HOW. LET YOU GUYS KNOW HOW MUCH WE NEED TO PROCEED WITH THE REST OF THE CIRCUITS RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE IN PHASE ONE AND, WE'RE CURRENTLY THE PLANS WERE SENT OVER TO PIKE FOR THEM TO REVIEW AND THEN FOR A POTENTIAL START DATE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE WITH THAT. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE DO WE KNOW LIKE WHAT THE NEXT, PLACE WOULD BE WHERE WE WERE GOING TO THINK ABOUT BURYING BURYING POWER LINES? WELL, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, WE, WE CHOSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE CHOOSING THE CIRCUIT THAT HAD THE MOST PROBLEMS. BEN HILL AREA WAS, WAS GETTING ATE UP BY THE OUTAGES. SO THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THAT BEN HILL OUTAGE AREA. BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THE OUTAGE REPORT FROM, FROM SINCE JANUARY 1ST, 2024, KNOWN AS THE WILLINGHAM SUBSTATION, THAT'S GETTING ATE UP BY THE OUTAGES. SO IT VARIES FROM SITE TO SITE, FROM SUBSTATION TO SUBSTATION. SO RIGHT NOW I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE, OUT OF WILLINGHAM, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE GROVE SUBSTATION AND THE BEN HILL SUBSTATION. THOSE ARE OUR MAIN FOCUS POINTS RIGHT NOW. AS YOU KNOW, HEADLAND DRIVE IS THE I WOULD SAY I WE CALL IT THE TREE MECCA OF THE WORLD. SO FOR US. SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THAT, ON THAT HEADLAND DRIVE AREA, AND, SO I'M IN WARD B AND SO I DON'T MAYBE I JUST HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, BUT YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S IN MY WARD AND SO IS RIVER PARK. AND I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THOSE TWO. NEIGHBORHOODS, IF YOU WILL, ON, ON POWER OUTAGES. I KNOW THAT RIVER PARK HAS BEEN HIT PRETTY HARD RECENTLY. THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD ABOUT ONE POWER OUTAGE A MONTH IN THE PAST, LIKE 3 OR 4 MONTHS OR SO, AND, YOU KNOW, RIVER PARK HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN DISINVESTED FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED AS WELL AS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT AND IT AFFECTS PEOPLE, THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE ALREADY IN A HOUSING SITUATION, LIKE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO RECOUP, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BUY THEIR FOOD AGAIN AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I'M GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND REBUY FOOD. AND, AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE FOR SOMEBODY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LIKE, CONSIDER ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, I DO REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S MORE POWER OUTAGES SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT IT'S GOING TO IMPACT PEOPLE MORE. SOMEWHERE ELSE, POTENTIALLY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM, OBVIOUSLY WORKING DAILY, DOING TREE ASSESSMENTS, TRYING TO REMOVE THESE TREES CLOSE TO THE POWER LINES. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING. ALSO, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT OUR SYSTEM, STUDY ON HOW TO PREVENT, LARGER POWER OUTAGES AS WELL. SO ONCE WE GET INTO THE SYSTEM STUDY, ABLE TO REVIEW AND DO SIMULATIONS ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE PUT A SWITCH HERE AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE PUT A TRANSFORMER HERE. ONCE WE GET IT TO THAT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO NARROW THINGS DOWN SO IT WON'T BE. THE OUTAGES WON'T BE AS WIDESPREAD. OKAY. AND WHEN ARE YOU THINKING THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN? OH, ACTUALLY, I THINK WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE SIGNATURES, WE IT'S BEEN APPROVED. WE JUST. THE NEXT STEP IS THAT TO GET THE SIGNATURES, GET THE PO, AND THEN COME THE GENTLEMAN WILL BE COMING DOWN FROM MIRRORSOFT TO GIVE US MORE TRAINING. DETAILED TRAINING. WE HAVE A COUPLE. WE SENT UP A COUPLE OF TRAINING DATES FOR OUR TEAM SO EVERYBODY CAN GET INVOLVED WITH WHAT THAT IS DOING. THE SYSTEM STUDY IS ALL WE HAVE TAUGHT. HITS. WHO'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 40 YEARS. AND WHAT THAT IS DOING IS GETTING ALL THE DATA THAT'S OUT, THAT'S IN OUR HEAD AND PUTTING IT IN THAT DATABASE. AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO BASICALLY SOMEWHAT TRY TO THINK LIKE TODD WITHOUT TODD BEING HERE. SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR GOAL. OKAY. AND SO, SO THE, THE SIGNATURES THAT YOU'RE WAITING FOR THAT IS TO ACTUALLY START THE PROCESS OF LIKE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU WOULD PUT THE SWITCHES. YES MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WOULD YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ACTUALLY PUTTING THE SWITCHES IN PLACE OR LIKE. NO, MA'AM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE SWITCHES, BUT IT WOULDN'T BENEFIT US NONE IF WE JUST WAS TO GO OUT THERE AND PUT THEM UP. WE IT MAY THE SYSTEM STUDY MAY TELL US NO, YOU PUT THAT IN THE WRONG PLACE. SO IT JUST ONCE WE REVIEW IT IN THE 
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SYSTEM STUDY, IT WOULD TELL US EXACTLY WHERE THAT SWITCH NEED TO GO. OKAY. AND REGARDING THE GROVE SUBSTATION FIRE. YES, MA'AM, DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WAS, LIKE, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A THERE WAS A LOOSE CONNECTION. THAT'S WHAT WHAT THE CAUSE WAS. BUT DO YOU THINK THAT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IN ANY WAY? YES. YES, IT COULD HAVE. WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE CALL IS AN INFRARED CAMERA THAT GOES IN AND VIEW HOTSPOTS. OUR SUBSTATION TEAM, THEY GO TO THE SUBSTATION EVERY MONDAY AND FRIDAY, FRIDAY TO DO A VISUAL OF THE SUBSTATION. SO I THINK THIS MAY HAVE HAPPENED ON A WEDNESDAY. I'M NOT SURE, BUT THAT MONDAY THE SUBSTATION WAS VISUALLY CHECKED AND, I GUESS WE DID NOT USE THE INFRARED GUN LIKE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO. WE PROBABLY USED THE INFRARED GUN MAYBE ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS. ALSO GEORGIA POWER AS WELL. THEY SENT US SCANS OF INFRARED ISSUES FOR US TO ADDRESS AS WELL. SO I MEAN, THE STATION IS THERE BEING DOUBLE CHECKED. IT'S JUST THAT THIS TIME, THIS ONE WAS MISSED. SO COULD IT HAVE HAPPENED WITHIN THE TWO, 2 TO 3 DAYS OR THE 15 DAYS THAT WE DID NOT DO A SCAN? IT'S A POSSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, SO THOSE REGULATORS, THEY TEND TO VIBRATE A LITTLE BIT. AND IT COULD HAVE CAUSED THOSE CONNECTORS CONNECTION TO COME LOOSE. BUT UNTIL I CAN GET A FULL REPORT FROM THE TEAM, DEEP SOUTH, THE TEAM WHO DID THE REGULATOR, MAINTENANCE AND WHO'S DOING THE INSPECTION OF THE REGULATOR, THAT'S WHEN I KNOW MORE. BUT THE INITIAL REPORT THAT HE GAVE ME THAT IT WAS A, A LOOSE CONNECTION AT THE TOP OF THE REGULATOR. GOTCHA. OKAY THANK YOU. AND, WHEN IT COMES TO GEORGIA POWER, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY COMING TO, LIKE, OBSERVE AND INSPECT AND MAINTAIN THEIR LINES? LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH GEORGIA POWER ON THURSDAY, AND THOUGH THAT WILL BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AS WELL FOR THEM, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE. WE BOTH PROVIDE OUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF EAST POINT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS OF EAST POINT ARE COVERED. WITH ANYTHING THAT MAY HAPPEN NOW OR IN THE PAST OR IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. OKAY WELL THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, THOMAS. YES, A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE FIRST ONE IS, DO YOU HAVE A COMPARISON OF THE OUTAGES THAT WE HAVE NOW COMPARED TO BEFORE WE STARTED OUR TREE ABATEMENT PROGRAM, NO, SIR, I DO NOT. I CAN TRY TO COLLECT THAT DATA. PROBABLY TAKE ME A LITTLE WHILE TO GET IT TOGETHER, BUT I CAN I CAN DO MY BEST TO WORK ON THAT. THAT MAY HELP TO SHOW HOW THIS PROGRAM IS IMPROVING POWER OUTAGES. IS THAT EJ IN THE BACKGROUND? YES. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. HE DOES A GREAT JOB. DID YOU TELL HIM I TOLD YOU THAT ALL RIGHT. GOOD, SO IF WE HAD IF WE CAN COMPARE THE ANALYTICS, THEN WE CAN DETERMINE HOW WE BEST SPEND COUNCIL DOLLARS. OKAY. IN THIS INVESTMENT OF HALF $1 MILLION, IF WE CAN SHOW WHICH I THINK WE WILL SHOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A REDUCTION IN OUTAGES BECAUSE OF TREES FALLING, THEN THAT MAY HELP JUSTIFY THAT EXPENSE. THE SECOND POINT IS, MR. DOWLAND, OUR FIRST TALKED ABOUT BURYING POWER LINES BACK IN 2019. AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I RECOMMENDED THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY FINANCE THAT IS THROUGH A JV PARTNERSHIP WITH BURYING, COAXIAL CABLE WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO BECOME A BROADBAND PROVIDER. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU AND I CAN START TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN, TO MAYBE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE COSTS AND ALSO EXPAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, YOU ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTION WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE TREES. THE TREES. 
          I KNOW FOR HELPING DRIVE THE POWER WAS OUT LIKE ONCE A WEEK BECAUSE THERE WERE TREES FALLING EVERY WEEK. THAT WAS TAKING THE POWER DOWN. SO TO SAY THAT BECAUSE OF CERTAIN AREA HAS DIFFERENT THINGS, IT ALMOST SEEMED LIKE THAT AREA SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. I THINK WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT, EVERYBODY LOSES FOOD. DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THAT POWER STAYS OUT. BUT I DO KNOW FOR HEADLAND DRIVE, THERE'S A LOT OF SENIORS THAT LIVE OVER THERE AND THEY ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THE POWER OUTAGE BECAUSE ONE, SOME OF THEM ARE ON, OXYGEN MACHINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, 
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AND THEY NEED THAT POWER TO WORK THOSE MACHINES. SO IF YOU ALL ARE PLANNING OR DOING HEADLAND DRIVE FIRST, I THINK IT'S NEEDED BECAUSE IF YOU GO DOWN HELEN DRIVE, THERE ARE PLENTY TREES AND THOSE TREES HAVE FAILED EVERY WEEK, EVERY WEEK. AT ONE POINT A TREE WAS FALLING, TAKEN OUT, POWER TAKEN DOWN, THE POWER. SO I THINK I THINK YOU ALL, AND I WOULD HOPE YOU ALL ARE BASING IT ON THE NEEDS OF THE AREA AND WHERE THERE HAS BEEN THE MOST. AND I'M SURE IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK, HELEN DRIVE HAS BEEN POWER HAS BEEN OUT MORE THAN ANYTHING. I KNOW BECAUSE I GET PLENTY OF PHONE CALLS. SO IF, IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THEN THAT'S FINE. 
          AND IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE AN UPDATE, NOT NOW, BUT MAYBE LATER ON AS TO WHAT AREAS ARE GOING TO BE NEXT BASED ON THE AREAS THAT HAVE HAD THE MOST POWER OUTAGES. JUST SO HAPPENS THAT WILLINGHAM NOW HAS HAD IT. BUT I KNOW IN THE PAST, BEFORE THIS EVEN STARTED, IT WAS HEADLAND DRIVE AND THEY'RE STILL FILLED WITH TREES THAT'S LEANING IN THE STREET. YES MA'AM. YOU'RE CORRECT. YEAH, HEADLAND DRIVE WAS A BIG PROBLEM FOR US. THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THIS AREA. IT WAS IT WAS FOR US. IT WAS A NO BRAINER BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, THE TREES, THAT'S ON HEADLAND DRIVE THAT CAN, THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ARE COMING FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. EITHER WE CUT THE TREES OFF OF PRIVATE PROPERTY AWAY, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THESE PRIMARY LINES ON THE GROUND, THE SECONDARY LINES WILL HAVE TO COME LATER. BUT THE MAIN FOCUS IS THE IS THE PRIMARY LINES. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. THAT'S RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO SPEAKING OF PRIMARY LINES, GOING UNDERGROUND, WHAT'S THE COST? THAT'S VERY COSTLY. YES, MA'AM. IT IS VERY COSTLY. ONE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE MATERIAL ORDER. WE HAVE SOME OF THE MATERIAL, BUT WE'RE STILL ORDERING. I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS FOR SOME, TO PURCHASE SOME TRANSFORMERS AS WELL, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO. THE TEAM HAS BEEN ORDERING SUPPLIES. WE HAVE THE CONDUIT. WE'RE READY TO START THE BORING. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR, PIKE AND OUR TEAM TO HAVE A FINAL MEETING TO, TO HAVE A START DATE, WE WILL BE SENDING OUT, GETTING WITH TRANSPORTATION ON, SENDING OUT COMMUNICATIONS ON. LET EVERYONE KNOW, WHAT ROADS WE WILL BE ON AND WHAT STEPS WE WILL BE TAKING FOR SAFETY ASPECT OF IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE MEASURE OR TRACK OUR INVENTORY, OUR LINES BASED ON MILES OR WHATEVER, BUT LIKE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, HOW MANY MILES OF ELECTRIC LINES DO WE HAVE? I MEAN, WHATEVER UNIT YOU USE, LIKE, DO WE KNOW THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ELECTRIC LINES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT EACH TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION AT EAST POINT MAINTAINS? FOR US, THE, I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE IT READILY AVAILABLE. I CAN DEFINITELY SEND IT TO YOU GUYS, BUT I DO HAVE THE FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT, MILES OF LINE. I DO HAVE THAT DATA. YES. YEAH. I THINK, BECAUSE WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT BURYING POWER LINES, IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW. LIKE WHAT? OUR TOTAL AMOUNT IS AND THEN WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE. RIGHT I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TREES FOR QUITE SOME TIME. YES. THERE'S BEEN SOME PROGRESS IN THAT AREA AND WE'VE ALLOCATED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT. BUT LIKE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WE CUT THE TREE DOWN EITHER BEFORE IT TOOK THE POWER LINE OUT OR AFTER. AND WHEN WE DO IT AFTER IT FALLS ON THE POWER LINE. WE HAVEN'T. I MEAN, I THINK A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE IF YOU CUT A TREE BEFORE A LINE IS DONE, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES. ALL OF THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT. I KNOW THERE'S A COST TO CUT TREES DOWN. YES, SIR. AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS KIND OF AD NAUSEAM, BUT LIKE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE BE MORE PROACTIVE WITH TREES. AND EVEN I KNOW THERE'S A GRATUITY ISSUE WHEN WE START CUTTING TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT LIKE, IF THEY ARE A DANGER TO THE POWER INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A WAY AROUND THE GRATUITIES CLAUSE BECAUSE THERE IS A PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE ISSUE IN ENSURING THAT THAT LINE DOESN'T TAKE IT OUT. AND IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME CRITERIA AND THINGS THAT WE SET UP TO EVALUATE THAT, WE ALSO EVEN TALKED ABOUT GIS TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IS THERE A POSSIBLE WAY TO IDENTIFY OUR LINES AND WHERE THE TREES ARE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? I THINK, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO EXPLORE THAT CONTINUE TO EXPLORE 
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FUNDING FOR THE TREE PROGRAM, WHAT WE CAN DO OURSELVES, WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO CONTRACT OUT. 
          THE TREES ARE COMING DOWN AND WE MOVE THEM. YEAH WE MOVE THEM BEFORE THE POWER GOES. IT TAKES OUT A POWER LINE. MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT IT WOULD BE THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WOULD SAY THAT IT'S LESS COSTLY. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S 22 OUTAGES. THERE'S THIS, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION OR DISCOURSE GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S LIKE AN OUTAGE EVERY OTHER DAY OR EVERY OTHER WEEK OR WHATEVER. 
          SO 22 OUTAGES DOESN'T REALLY AMOUNT TO THAT. YOU SAID THAT IS SOLELY FOR SUBSTATIONS. HOW DO WE TRACK THE OUTAGES THAT ARE NON SUBSTATION RELATED. RIGHT. SO LIKE I GET I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE OUTAGES THAT TAKE OUT THE POWER AT THE SUBSTATION. YES MA'AM. WHAT ABOUT THE LINES LIKE THE YOU MENTIONED ACCIDENTS AS A PART OF THIS 22. SO ARE THERE MORE BECAUSE THERE'S THIS PERCEPTION NOT SOME TIME PERCEPTION. BLESS YOU. PERCEPTION IS REALITY. IF WE DON'T FACT CHECK IT AND PROVIDE THE ACTUAL DATA, ARE THERE MORE THAN 22 AND HOW DO WE GET THE INFORMATION ON THE OTHERS? THE CAUSES OF THOSE WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKE A DATA DRIVEN DECISION AS TO WHERE WE MAY NEED TO GO TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATE RESOURCES AS IT RELATES TO DEALING WITH OUTAGES. ANOTHER BIG AREA GETS HIT A LOT. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT DECISION AROUND BURYING LINES WAS BASED UPON DATA. BUT I THINK IF WE HAD INFORMATION AROUND THE DATA WHERE THE OUTAGES ARE, ALL OF THEM, I'M SURE IF I LOOKED AT SOCIAL MEDIA RIGHT NOW, SOMEBODY'S SAYING MORE THAN 22 OUTAGES, RIGHT? SO LIKE, CAN WE GET THE FACTS ABOUT HOW MANY LIKE JUST WHAT THEY ARE, WHETHER IT WAS SUBSTATION OR WHETHER WHATEVER IT IS, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE RESPOND TO ALL OF THEM, RIGHT? SO WHAT IS THAT COMPLETE NUMBER? AND I GUESS IF WE COULD START WITH 2024 AND THEN EVENTUALLY GO BACK RIGHT THE WAY YOU KIND OF THE, I BELIEVE THE WAY YOU KIND OF ACT, MISS, IS WITH FACTS AND WHAT ARE OUR FACTS AND WHATEVER THE FACTS ARE, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM. RIGHT. BUT, IT ALSO HELPS US PLAN AND MAKE DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS ABOUT THE SCARCE RESOURCES THAT WE MAY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THESE ISSUES. AND SO, I COMMEND YOU ALL ON THE JOB THAT YOU'RE DOING AGAIN, I KNOW IT IS A VERY, HIGH RISK JOB, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE DID NOT SCAN, DID NOT DO A SCAN. DO WE SCAN GEORGIA POWER'S LINE? I'M SORRY, DID WE NOT DO WE SCAN? WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE GROVE STATION FIRE. OH NO. NO, WE. NO, MA'AM. WE JUST SCANNED OUR, OUR HIGH. 
          WELL, OUR LOW, THE LOW SIDE TRANSFORMER REGULATORS AND THE BREAKER, THE SWITCHES, BUT GEORGIA POWER, THEY SCAN OUR EQUIPMENT. THEY SCAN YOUR OUR EQUIPMENT. WHEN THEY'RE THERE TO PUT IN TO DO THEIR WORK. THEY SCAN THEIR HIGH SIDE AND THEY SCAN OUR LOW SIDE, AND THEY SEND US THE DATA FROM THAT SCAN. SO WHO DIDN'T DO THE SCAN? WAS IT EASTPOINTE OR GEORGIA POWER, WELL, WE BOTH DO. WE BOTH SCAN. AND JUST THAT I'M NOT SURE WHEN WAS THE LAST SCAN. I WANT TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU FROM THE LAST SCAN THAT GEORGIA POWER DID. IN THE LAST SCAN THAT WE DID, I WILL HAVE TO GET THAT. AND THE INITIAL THE LINE FROM THE REGULATOR IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID WAS THAT ON THE GEORGIA POWER? NO, MA'AM. INFRASTRUCTURE OR WAS IT EASTPOINTE INFRASTRUCTURE? IT WAS ON EASTPOINTE STRUCTURE. AND THAT IS THAT WHAT CAUSED THE FIRE? YES, MA'AM. AND SO THEN WHY WASN'T THE EASTPOINTE TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION LINES? NO, MA'AM. WE WAS TALKING ABOUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. THE FIRST ONE WAS THE SUBSTATION FIRE, AND THE SECOND ONE WAS THE GEORGIA GEORGIA POWER TRANSMISSION LINES. SO THE FIRST ONE WAS THE EASTPOINTE POWERS GROVE SUBSTATION FIRE, WHICH HAD THE HIGH SIDE WHICH HAD THE LOOSE CONNECTION WHICH CAUSED THE FIRE TO THE REGULATOR FOR THE RECENT ONE. NO, MA'AM. THAT THAT THE RECENT ONE THAT WAS A DOWNED TREE THAT CAUSED THE POWER OUTAGE ON THE TRANSMISSION TRANSMISSION LINES. YES. OKAY YES. SO THAT HAPPENED WHEN. 
          YEAH. GROVE SUBSTATION, WAS IT. I KNOW THAT THE I DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR THE GROVE SUBSTATION. I BELIEVE I HAVE IT, BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE IT. BUT THAT'S NOT THE RECENT ONE. NO THE MOST RECENT. THE FIRES IN MULTIPLE PLACES. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S NOT THE MOST RECENT ONE. IS THE GEORGIA POWER TRANSMISSION LINE, WHICH WAS, TORE DOWN BY A TREE AND WAS THAT TREE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? THAT TREE WAS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE REAR EASEMENT OF A PROPERTY IN THE REAR EASEMENT OF THE. YES, MA'AM. IT WAS. IT MEANS IT'S OURS, RIGHT? NO, IT WAS IN THE BACK OF THE CUSTOMER'S PROPERTY, I I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN EASEMENT. IT WAS IN THE ON THE 
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CUSTOMER'S PROPERTY. IT FELL FROM THAT, NOT ON THE EASEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE EASEMENT? NO, MA'AM. IT WAS. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GEORGIA POWER EASEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS THE TREE WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE, SECONDARY OR THE PRIMARY LINES. I MEAN, I RIDE DOWN MEADOWLARK AND IT'S LIKE TREES ON THE STREET, LIKE THAT HAS GOT TO BE IN THE EASEMENT. AND THEY'RE REALLY HUGE AND THEY'RE NEAR LINES AND SO THE OTHER THING IS, HOW CAN WE WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT TREES ON OUR EASEMENT? BECAUSE THE EASEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE OWN. IT'S NOT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. RIGHT AND HOW HOW THOSE ARE IMPACTING. WELL WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MANY, MANY TREES IN REAR EASEMENT, OF PROPERTIES, MAINLY GEORGIA POWER DOES, JUST THAT, THAT ONE AREA RIGHT THERE. THE REST OF THAT, THAT'S ALL THAT GEORGIA POWER, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LINES RUNNING UP THROUGH THERE. NO, JUST I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL, AS WE LOOK AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE TREES, THAT WE END UP CUTTING UP AND MOVING AWAY, BEFORE OR AFTER, ARE THERE DO WE HAVE THEM ON THE EASEMENT AGAIN? I MEAN, ARE THERE TREES LIKE ALMOST AT THE ASPHALT? WELL, LIKE EJ HALL, OUR TREE, TREE AFTER TREE SUPERVISOR, HE HE FALL OUT PRIMARILY LINES OUT TO THE T. SO WHEREVER THERE'S AN ISSUE, THERE'S A TREE, A POTENTIAL TREE THAT COULD CAUSE CONFLICT WITH, CITY OF EASTPOINTE POWER LINES. WE WORK TO GET THAT TREE REMOVED. SO THOSE. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PRIORITIZING OUR TREE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEN LET US KNOW IF WE NEED MORE. YES, MA'AM. I SURE WILL. ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, YES. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS THAT I DID NOT MEAN TO OR INSINUATE THAT IT WAS INSTEAD OF IT WAS WHAT WAS NEXT? WHAT, FOR BURYING POWER LINES. WHAT ARE WE DOING NEXT, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE I'M LOOKING THROUGH SOME EMAILS OF WHEN, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS NOTIFIED THAT POWER IS OUT AND THERE'S PLENTY WHERE THERE'S OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE AFFECTED AT A TIME. SO SURE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF 20. I MEAN, YOU SAID IT'S 22 POWER OUTAGES PER OR FOR THE, DUE TO THE SUBSTATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF, OF POWER OUTAGES, OKAY. SO THAT WAS, 22 POWER OUTAGES BECAUSE OF, OR THAT COULD BE BECAUSE OF, TREES. MECHANICAL HARDWARE FAILURE OR PLANT OUTAGES OR CAR ACCIDENTS. IT'S JUST AND THE PLANT OUTAGES ARE WHEN OUR TEAM, WE INTENTIONALLY, TAKE DOWN THE POWER FOR SAFETY REASONS, TO IT MAY BE THE EVENT THAT, A CAR COULD BE ON THE OR BE ON THE POLE AND THAT WE NEED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEED TO REMOVE THE TREE SAFELY. REMOVE THE CAR SAFELY. SO IT'S A IT'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WOULD TAKE THE PLACE WERE TAKING PLACE IF WE NEED TO DO A PLANT OUTAGE. OKAY, COULD THERE BE MORE THAN 22 POWER OUTAGES? ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, POWER OUTAGES? THE DATA MY TEAM COLLECTS, THAT DATA, I CAN I CAN GET THEM TO DOUBLE CHECK. NOW, THERE IS A SECONDARY, OUTAGES, MEANING THAT IT COULD BE A CUSTOMER THAT HAS, THAT'S ON ONE STREET AND THE WHOLE STREET GO OUT. YEAH, THAT'S CONSIDERED AN OUTAGE. NOW, WE DID NOT RECORD THAT OUTAGE BECAUSE THAT OUTAGE DID NOT AFFECT THE SUBSTATION, IT COULD BE A CUSTOMER DATA, WILDLIFE OR SQUIRREL HAS GONE INSIDE. THE TREE HAS GOTTEN UP ON TOP OF THE TRANSFORMER, AND IT COULD HAVE KNOCKED THAT FIRE CUSTOMERS. NO, WE DID NOT RECORD THAT POWER OUTAGE. SO YES, TO SAY THAT THERE'S ONLY HAVE BEEN 22 OUTAGES, NO, WE'RE LIKE I SAID, THIS INFORMATION IS ONLY CONTAINS, PERTAINS TO THE ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION POWER OUTAGES. YES. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THERE HAS BEEN MANY CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY, SECONDARY, POWER OUTAGES. OKAY. YES. GOTCHA YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH SOME EMAILS AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TIMES WHEN ONE SINGLE POWER OUTAGE AFFECTS OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE AT ONE SINGLE TIME. SO IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          YES, MA'AM. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FEELING THIS IMPACT OF POWER OUTAGES. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE, AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT BURYING, BURYING POWER LINES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, OUR TAXES ARE GOING UP. WE ARE GETTING MORE TAX MONEY. I THINK THAT WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ON HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WE CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF EVERYBODY. IF, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY JUST KIND OF SET OUR PRIORITIES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH HOW WE'RE 
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GOING TO SPEND OUR MONEY, OKAY, AND ENCOURAGE THOSE CUSTOMERS TO PLEASE JUST EMAIL POWER OUTAGE AT EAST POINT, CITY.ORG THAT WAY WE CAN PULL UP YOUR METER AND WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THE DATA OF HOW MANY, EXACTLY HOW MANY TIMES YOUR METER HAS BEEN OUT. IT WAS IT WOULD GIVE US A DISPLAY OF HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAD A POWER BLINK OR A SURGE. IT GAVE US DETAILED INFORMATION. SO PLEASE, JUST CUSTOMERS JUST, EMAIL POWER OUTAGE AT EAST POINT CITY.ORG. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE NEED TO TRACK TWO THINGS THERE. POWER OUTAGE INCIDENTS AND THEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IMPACTED. SO THEY'RE CLEARLY MORE THAN 22 POWER OUTAGES. WHETHER IT'S MIGHT NOT BE ON PRIMARY BUT ON SECONDARY. YES MA'AM. AND I THINK AGAIN THAT'S WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER. CORRECT. 
          YOU COUNTER. LIKE GIVING FACTS HELPS INFORM THE CONVERSATION. RIGHT. AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE IS GOING TO GIVE US, I THINK, AN EXTRA 2 MILLION OR SOMETHING DOLLARS. SURE. THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T COVER BURYING ALL OF THE POWER LINES. SO HAVING AGAIN, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WHETHER YOUR MEASUREMENT MILES OR WHATEVER YOU DO, WHAT IS THAT MAXIMUM AMOUNT? WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO BURY THEM? IT'S AN INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. AND THEN PER INCIDENT, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IMPACTED PER INCIDENT IS INFORMATION WE NEED TO HAVE AS WELL. I THINK IF WE FOCUS ON JUST NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THAT'S THOUSANDS, I MEAN, EVERY TIME THERE'S OUTAGES, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IMPACTED. BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT INCIDENTS AND THEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IMPACTED PER INCIDENT, WHETHER IT WAS PRIMARY OR SECONDARY, I ALREADY KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISCOURSE AROUND. THERE WERE MORE THAN 22 OUTAGES, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS. WHAT WAS THE CAUSE? HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IMPACTED BY THEM AGAIN? SO WE ALL HAVE THE FACTUAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AND ALSO THAT FACTUAL INFORMATION WILL HELP US MAKE A DATA DRIVEN DECISION. RIGHT. AND LOOK AT WHERE THEY'RE OCCURRING MOST. AND HOW ARE WE DECIDING WHERE WE GO. FROM AN OBJECTIVE PERSPECTIVE. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE COULD BE ALL ALL OVER THE CITY. 
          RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON 38? THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. WHETHER YOU WANT THIS TO GO, IS THIS A FUTURE MEETING OR IS THIS IT? I THINK, IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK WITH SOME OF THE ANSWER, ADDITIONAL ANSWERS, MAYBE AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION IF, IF THAT WORKS. OKAY, SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME MORE, MORE ANSWERS. WE CAN JUST HAVE MORE CONVERSATION AROUND THIS. 
          OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. AND ALSO CAN, MADAM CITY CLERK, IF YOU CAN GET THE DATE ON WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DOING AN UPDATED, ELECTRIC STUDY BECAUSE I THINK COUNCIL ACTUALLY TOOK A VOTE AFTER 2018 REGARDING THAT WAS THE LAST REPORT, BUT THERE WAS A VOTE TAKEN ABOUT DOING ANOTHER ELECTRIC AND WATER UTILITY STUDY FOR OUR UTILITIES AND ENGAGE IN IG BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY A MEMBER. AND THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, POSSIBLY EVEN DOING WATER. SO I KNOW THE LAST IF THE LAST REPORT WAS IN 18, I FEEL LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION POST THAT. SO IF YOU 
          [III. PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS (Part 3 of 3)]
CAN LOOK AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER NON-OWNER OCCUPIED CERTIFICATION. THANK YOU, MISS WIGGINS, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ISSUE, BASED ON SOME THINGS THAT CAME TO LIGHT TONIGHT, FOR SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IS WHEN WE HAVE SQUATTERS IN HOMES AND THERE'S AN ABSENTEE LANDLORD. SO THE, THE CHIEF TODAY MENTIONED THAT. THEY HAVE TO GO TO COURT. 
          AND THERE'S A SEVEN DAY PROCESS IN ORDER TO DO THAT. IF WE START TO AUGMENT THIS LEGISLATION, SOME IS IT POSSIBLE TO START TO, AS WE TAKE THEM THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS, TO HAVE THEM OR REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE SOMEONE LOCAL HERE TO ANSWER THOSE CHARGES IN CASE THEY'RE NOT? SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU FIND, SOMEONE'S LIVING IN A HOUSE, THEY'RE SQUATTING, AND THE OWNER IS ABSENTEE IN ANOTHER STATE, AND THEY DON'T SHOW UP TO COURT. THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT ARISE FROM THAT. WHAT CAN WE DO TO TRY TO AUGMENT THAT ISSUE? AND AT THAT TIME, IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIND OUT, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THIS XYZ CORPORATION, IF XYZ CORPORATION HAS OTHER PROPERTIES 
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THAT ARE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS FOR THE CITY. SO, COUNCILMAN BUTLER, THE COURT PROCESS IS NOT OURS. 
          IT'S IN FULTON COUNTY MAGISTRATE COURT. SO WE HAVE VERY LITTLE AUTHORITY TO MESS WITH THAT. 
          WHAT ABOUT LOCALLY, THOUGH? MUNICIPAL COURT? NO, NO. BUT THAT THAT PROCESS, THE SQUATTER PROCESS DOESN'T COME TO THROUGH OUR COURT. THE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW IT TO. RIGHT. AND SO, BASED ON THE HOUSE BILL AND THE PROCESS, ALBEIT A LITTLE WONKY, THE SQUATTER APPROACH TAKES KIND OF TWO TRACKS. THE CRIMINAL TRACK AND THEN THE CIVIL EVICTION TRACK, BOTH OF THOSE ARE ADJUDICATED IN THE MAGISTRATE COURT, NOT IN OUR MUNICIPAL COURT, IF YOU'VE GOT A ABSENT AND WHEN YOU SAY ABSENT, YOU MEAN PHYSICALLY NOT IN THE STATE, OR DO YOU MEAN NON-RESPONSIVE? WELL, IT COULD BE BOTH, BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES OVERLAP. SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NON-RESPONSIVE PROPERTY OWNER, BECAUSE THEM NOT BEING IN A STATE DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T ACTIVELY ADVOCATE FOR THE SQUATTER TO BE REMOVED. RIGHT? RIGHT. EXACTLY. SO BUT IF THEY'RE NON-RESPONSIVE, WHETHER THEY'RE LOCAL OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU'RE SO PART OF THE SQUATTER. 
          LAW SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL HAVE TO FILL OUT SOME PAPERWORK, THE AFFIDAVIT, WHATEVER IT IS A FORM TO EVICT. RIGHT. BUT THE CRIMINAL PROCESS CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER BEING ACTIVE IN THAT PART. RIGHT. AND SO, IF THEY DON'T COME AND TURN IN THAT PAPERWORK THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE LAW TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITHIN THREE DAYS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING TO THE ADDRESS AND SAYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW, NOTIFICATION THAT YOU MAY BE A SQUATTER, PLEASE PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION AND NOTE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LEASE. IT CAN BE RECEIPTS. IT CAN BE ANYTHING THAT INDICATES THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE THERE. 
          IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THE POLICE HAVE A RIGHT TO ARREST. SO NOW YOU'VE REMOVED THE SQUATTER FROM THE PROPERTY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES IT DOES. AND SO AT THE TIME OF PROSECUTION, THOUGH OF IT YOU LIKELY WOULD NEED THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SAY THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. THEY ARE INDEED IN VIOLATION OF THE CRIMINAL TRESPASS, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL SQUATTER IS. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL SUBSECTION IN OUR TITLE 16 CRIMINAL TRESPASS, CRIMINAL CODE, AND BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW LAW, I WOULD SAY THAT WE GOT TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK, IN A NUMBER OF JURISDICTIONS TO KIND OF WORK OUT THE KINKS, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A NON-RESPONSIVE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU LIKELY WILL HAVE A BAD CASE. I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, TOO. 
          BUT, BECAUSE OF TIME, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE. SURE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, WHERE DO YOU WANT THIS? OKAY. OCTOBER. WORK SESSION, MADAM CITY CLERK, 30, 60, 90 DAY PLAN ON LITTER PICK UP. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZEIGLER YES. INTERIM CITY MANAGER HOWARD BROWN, I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN UPDATE. YES DIRECTOR REEVES AND MR. GOODELL, YOU GUYS COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, WE HAVE ON THIS LINE ITEM IS AN UPDATE ON OUR LITTER PATROL, 30, 60, 90 DAY LITTER PICKUP, RIGHT NOW, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON A DAILY LITTER WORKING, IN DIFFERENT WARDS ON EVERY DAY AND RESPONDING TO REPORTS FROM EXCESSIVE LITTER. OUR MANAGER HAS BEEN MANAGING THAT PROCESS, FOR THE LITTER PATROL TEAM, ILLEGAL DUMPING IS BEING ADDRESSED BY SOLID WASTE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY'VE BEEN REPORTING AREAS OF DUMPING AND GRAFFITI AS WELL FOR US TO GO ONE OF THE TEAM OR SOMEONE TO GO CLEAN IT. EAST POINT POWER TREE DIVISION HAS A FEW LOCATIONS THAT THEY'RE SCHEDULING CUT, WHICH WILL ASSIST US IN OUR MONITORING OF ILLEGAL DUMPING. AND THEN WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE READY TO GO UP, OR CHIEF GETS ALL THAT IN ORDER, WE'LL BE PUTTING CAMERAS IN THOSE AREAS ONCE WE CUT THE TREES BACK SO WE CAN PLACE THOSE CAMERAS, PUBLIC WORKS STAFF IS WORKING ON THE NO LITTERING SIGNAGE AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, AND WE ARE ACTIVELY HERE. STAFF WITH LITTER PATROL. WE HAVE, THREE FROM THE 
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TEN STAFF THAT WE'RE HIRING. WE HAVE THREE THAT ARE ALREADY ON BOARD. WE HAVE THREE, WELL, WE HAD THREE AS OF LAST WEEK. THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO HR. AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ONE SUBMITTED TODAY, WE DO HAVE ONE COMMUNITY SERVICE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEY'LL BE THEY'LL BE DONE IN ABOUT ANOTHER WEEK OR SO, AS FAR AS INTERVIEWS ARE CONCERNED, WE ARE THE REMAINING POSITIONS WE ARE INTERVIEWING FOR THOSE WE HAVE NOT HAD THE POSITION OF THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR POSTED YET. THAT'S BEEN SENT TO HR WITH ALL THE INFORMATION. SO WE'RE STANDING BY THE WAY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING. I THINK THAT YOU YOU'RE ALSO WORKING WITH PARK LANE ELEMENTARY. YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY TO MENTION THAT. YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE WITH THE PARK LANE ELEMENTARY, WITH MISS MINGO, WE'RE BACK IN CONVERSATIONS WITH HER. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOME TYPE OF CAMPAIGN WITH THE CHILDREN, WHICH IS IN FALLS WITHIN THE REALM OF, LEGALLY TO DO SO AND HAVE SOME KIND OF PROGRAM GOING WITH THE WITH THEM, AS WELL AS GOING INTO THE SCHOOL DOING SOME TYPE OF TRAINING OR SOME TYPE OF PRESENTATIONS WITH THE CHILDREN IN REFERENCE TO LITTER PICK UP LITTER PATROL. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR UPDATE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE CITY THAT ARE IN OTHER WARDS? WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THEM. YEAH, WE WERE JUST GOING TO START WITH PARKLAND BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. WE DO ALL KIND OF STUFF WITH THEM. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED FIRST. YEAH, BUT WE HAVE FIVE, FOUR OTHER SCHOOLS. YES, MA'AM. ELEMENTARY EXPANDING TO THOSE. WE PLAN TO EXPAND OUT TO THOSE. YES MA'AM, AND WHEN WILL YOU BE EXPANDING IT OUT TO THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS? I DON'T I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR ALL THE PRINCIPALS AT ALL THE SCHOOLS. 
          THEY WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM. SO WHAT IS THE TIMELINE OR LET US KNOW WHEN YOU WILL BE AFTER YOU PILOT IT, PARK LANE, WHEN YOU WILL BE WORKING WITH THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE CITY. WE HAVE, BROOKVIEW ELEMENTARY, CONLEY HILLS ELEMENTARY, ASA HILLIARD ELEMENTARY, AND HAMILTON E HOLMES ELEMENTARY IN ADDITION TO PARK LANE. SO AS WE ARE LOOKING AT WORKING WITH SCHOOLS, I THINK WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER, WHAT DO YOU WANT THIS, LET'S SEE, HOW ABOUT ON THE NOVEMBER WORK SESSION? YES, MA'AM. YEAH. LOOK FORWARD TO THAT PLAN. AND WORKING WITH ALL SCHOOLS AT THE NOVEMBER WORK SESSION. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. DEPARTMENTAL VACANCIES, DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. ARE WE DOING? OH I'M SORRY. SORRY, I THOUGHT I WAS DOING 26. I'M SORRY. YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. I THINK OF THE ONE FOR, NUMBER 26. YES, MA'AM. YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THAT. ABOUT THE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW WE. AGAIN. IT'S BACK TO THE SAME CONVERSATION WE WERE JUST HAVING WITH POWER. HOW ARE WE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT PRIORITIZING? I KNOW YOU ALL GRADED STREETS A WHILE AGO. AND THEN WE GOT THE GREAT, THE GREAT UPDATED. RIGHT, HOW ARE WE PRIORITIZING THOSE? BECAUSE I THINK FOR RESIDENTS, WHEN THEY LOOK ON THE AGENDA AND SEE DIFFERENT STREETS COMING UP IN DIFFERENT AREAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT SHARING THE SYSTEM OF SELECTION, THERE MAY BE SOME ASSUMPTIONS, RIGHT? SO LIKE, HOW ARE WE MAKING THESE DECISIONS EVEN ABOUT LIKE WHAT WILL GO TO JAIL FOR WHAT WE USE T-SPLOST FOR? IS IT THE GRADING OR IS IT SOMETHING ELSE? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CORDELL HALL, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND FUNDING WAS, TIP SOLICITATION, FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE WAY WE SELECTED THESE STREETS. THIS IS A COMPETITIVE GRANT, SO THE GRANTS RATE AND SCORE, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC IMPACT, ENTER, MUNICIPALITY IMPACT, LIKE REGIONAL IMPACT. SO IN FREIGHT IMPACT AS WELL. SO THE STREETS WITH HIGHER VOLUMES AND THE COMMERCIAL STREETS WERE WHAT WE SELECTED, WASHINGTON ROAD NORTH COMMERCE, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF FREIGHT TRAFFIC THAT CARRY A LOT OF HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT THEY INTERCONNECT. 
          AND SO THEY SCORE VERY HIGHLY. AND THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED THOSE STREETS FOR THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING, THIS ALSO ALLOWS US TO USE SOME OF OUR OTHER FUNDING, SUCH AS OUR SPLOST AND SOME OF OUR MORE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WE SCORE. SO THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING WAS FOR OUR COMMERCIAL AND FREIGHT CORRIDORS, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AND THEN, YOU ALL USED TO HAVE ON THE WEBSITE AND I THINK IT MAY STILL BE THERE, BUT HOW WE UPDATING LIKE THE PROJECTS AND WHERE WE ARE, LIKE, YOU CAN GO ON IT, YOU CAN CLICK RIGHT AND GET MORE INFORMATION. 
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I KNOW WE'VE HAD A WEBSITE UPDATE SINCE THEN, BUT I THINK IF WE CAN GET BACK TO THAT OR CONTINUE THAT, HOWEVER, LIKE I KNOW YOU ALL WERE DOING IT, BUT I THINK THAT IS A GOOD WAY FOR IF WE'RE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AND SOMEBODY'S LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON? WE JUST GO ON THE WEBSITE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS HAPPENING AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. RIGHT. AND YOU ALL WERE DOING IT, I THINK WHEN WE FIRST GOT T-SPLOST IT MIGHT STILL BE THERE, BUT LIKE, IF WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY, I THINK THAT'LL BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING ON, AND SO CONTINUING TO UPDATE THAT IS WOULD HELP WITH EVEN JUST LIKE YOUR TIME AND WHERE YOU ALL ARE SPENDING IT, JUST MAKING SURE THAT INFORMATION REPOSITORY IS THERE. SO WE ALL HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHTY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION IS GOING TO CONSENT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, MR. REEVES, YES, MA'AM. JUST JUST BRIEFLY. WE WILL BE BACK NEXT MONTH TO DO A PRESENTATION, AND WE WILL HAVE, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE CHOOSING OF THE ROADS, OUR, OUR PAYMENT, OUR CI, AND HOW WE HOW THOSE ARE DONE. WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT'S GOING TO SHOW ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND THEN IF YOU ALL CAN SHARE ALSO LIKE WHEN WE CAN EXPECT TO HAVE THOSE PROJECTS ON THE WEBSITE, LIKE I'M NOT SURE LIKE THE LABOR IT TAKES TO DO THAT. I JUST KNOW IT'S HELPFUL, IF WE ARE ANYWHERE TO BE ABLE TO JUST GO THERE AND GET THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WORK. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 11, DEPARTMENTAL VACANCIES. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, YES. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR. WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, I GOT THIS INFORMATION TODAY. EARLIER TODAY. SO I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO LOOK OVER IT. BUT I WAS ABLE TO PERUSE IT. 
          BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, CERTAIN CITIES OFFER MORE JOBS AND BETTER PAY, AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED OUR COMPENSATION STUDY NUMBER ONE, AND ALSO, IF AN INDIVIDUAL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MORE MONEY A FEW MILES AWAY, THEY MOST LIKELY WILL. WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR PAY IS COMPARABLE IN THE MARKET. LOOKING AT WHAT YOU SUBMITTED TO US, MR. INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MY CONCERNS ARE THIS I BELIEVE IN PROMOTING FROM WITHIN, AND WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT I GOT TODAY, IT'S A NUMBER OF VACANCIES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE TREE TRIMMING HAS A RECOMMENDATION OF TWO OPTIONS. IT GIVES THE OPTION OF OPTION A, IDENTIFY SOMEONE, A CURRENT TEAM MEMBER, AND B COLLABORATE WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMEN. 
          THEY OBVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT IN THAT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THEY HAD NINE PEOPLE. BUT THEY'RE DOWN TO ME. I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING IN THAT DEPARTMENT ALONE? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DOWN TO FOUR, MAYBE THREE, MAYBE THREE PEOPLE ARE IN THAT DEPARTMENT. SO I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE I KNOW I WANT MORE TIME. I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBERS PROBABLY WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS, BUT I NEED MORE TIME. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE SOME SORT OF PLAN OF ACTION AS TO HOW WE FILL THESE VACANCIES. BUT I DO KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO DO A CITY WIDE JOB SEARCH FOR ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT, BUT IT IS CONCERNING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THAT PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE ENOUGH STAFF IN THAT ONE DEPARTMENT. I STILL NEED TO LOOK OVER THIS, BUT THAT'S MY ASSESSMENT THUS FAR BECAUSE WE GOT THIS ABOUT, WHAT, 3:00, 4:00 TODAY? EXACTLY WHAT TIME? IS THAT TIME? 429 YEAH, THAT WASN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR ME TO LOOK OVER THIS. AND THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE A COUPLE OF TIMES FOR OUR VACANCIES. SO THAT IS JUST WHERE I AM WITH THIS. SO YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION, THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION. AND THEN WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH THESE COMMENTS AND VACANCY UPDATES. 
          HOW COME THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT AN AGGRESSIVE HIRING TO FILL SOME OF THESE VACANCIES, TO NOT BELABOR THE POINT OR THE TIME, I JUST WANT TO SAY PLANNING AND ZONING. I KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS 
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THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT REASONS I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT WE ALLOCATED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. PLANNING AND ZONING HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CONTINUOUS ISSUE, AND TO SEE THAT THERE ARE STILL SO MANY VACANCIES LIKE, STRUGGLING, THAT'S NOT OKAY, I BELIEVE THERE HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDATIONS OR THERE'S BEEN EFFORTS TO TRY TO GET POSITIONS FUNDED OR POSITIONS FILLED THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED OR DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE THAT WE'RE STILL LIKE TRYING TO SCROUNGE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF WHEN WE'VE ALLOCATED THE NECESSARY FUNDING FOR IT. SO THAT'S JUST ONE DEPARTMENT. I NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED AT 430 TODAY, SO OCTOBER WORK SESSION. WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY CONCERNING, NEXT IS, ITEM NUMBER. OH, I'M SORRY, NO, I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION. MR. BROWN, ON THE ON THE TABLE THAT YOU PROVIDED THE NOTE NEXT TO THE COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR POSITION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? WHAT. THIS WAS A NOTE FROM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR. THIS WAS A NOTE FROM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR. SO HE'S HE'S PRETTY MUCH SAYING IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FILL THAT. THAT'S A NOTE FROM THE DEPARTMENT. SO. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IT WAS CONFUSING. THANK YOU. LOOK FORWARD TO UPDATES AND NEXT MONTH, AND MAYBE WE CAN PRIORITIZE THIS AND MOVE IT UP ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN HAVE MORE OF A DISCUSSION. BUT. 
          OKAY, THAT'S ALL I GOT. YEAH, THIS IS INTERESTING. ANY RIGHT. NEXT UP IS 18 AND 12. THE REGARDING TRANSPARENCY SOFTWARE. THE GOVERNMENT PUBLIC DASHBOARD SOFTWARE UPDATE. MR. BROWN, YES, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO HAVE MR. BROOKINS COME FORWARD. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, OPEN GOV CLEAR GOV, HOW DO WE BE MORE TRANSPARENT IN SOME OF OUR BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS. AND SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE AS A, AS A GROUP, THE OUR IT DIRECTOR HAS PUT TOGETHER, I BELIEVE, A TRANSPARENCY PORTAL. YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THIS IN DIFFERENT CITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE THEY'LL PUT THE MOST THE MOST USED DOCUMENTS IN AN AREA WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS THEM. SO, JASON, IF YOU COULD TAKE US THROUGH IT, DIRECTOR OR INTERIM? INTERIM. OKAY. INTERIM I.T. DIRECTOR. YEAH SO GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO I AM, THE PAGE IS NOT LIVE YET, SO IT'S TAKEN A MINUTE FOR IT TO COME UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO PUBLISH ANYTHING WITHOUT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS. WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL. BUT I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL THAT I ASKED THE. IT STAFF TO CREATE. THERE IT IS, RIGHT ON CUE. I'M TRYING TO DO THIS, SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY EXPLAINS WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE PORTAL IS. AS INTERIM CITY. AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER, BROWN SAID IT IS COMMON FOR OTHER GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF, SETUP, BUT. SO BUT THIS THIS PAGE WAS SET UP FOR INFORMATION THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT THAT THE CITIZENS ARE MOST LIKELY TO LOOK FOR. AND, MADAM MAYOR, I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, YOU SAID THAT THE IMPETUS FOR THIS WHOLE CLEAR GOV OPEN GOV TRANSPARENCY STUFF WAS DEALING WITH, CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS ONLINE. AND JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP FROM THE LAST MEETING, ALL OF THE SOFTWARE THAT WE LOOKED AT DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHOW THE CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS DIRECTLY. THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO OR THE BEST THAT THEY CAN DO IS SHOW OPEN CHECKBOOK, WHICH BASICALLY JUST SHOWS THE TRANSACTIONS, WHO IT'S TO AND HOW MUCH IT'S FOR. BUT NONE OF THE DETAIL THAT'S PROVIDED WITH IT. AND SO WHAT I SUGGESTED TO MR. BROWN WAS THAT WE JUST COME UP WITH A NEW WEBSITE, WEB PAGE THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO SHOW THAT AT AN EASILY, LOCATABLE WAY. AND SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE SCREEN, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT EACH OF YOUR PICTURES, AND I DON'T HAVE ALL OF YOUR CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS, I JUST USED ONES, THAT, THAT, CLERK 
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SENT TO ME. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT COUNCIL MEMBER FREHLEY'S, THERE'S A LINK THAT GOES TO THE. 
          AND IT JUST LOADS THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A REDACTED VERSION OF THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE IT. AND THEN IT HAS ALL THE DETAILS OF, OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU CHARGED ON YOUR CITY ISSUED CREDIT CARD, SAME THING FOR YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YOURS IS ON THERE AS WELL. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT I HAVE LISTED. IT'S JUST IT WAS A DEMO. LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T TRYING TO PUT A BUNCH OF. AND IT'S NOT LIVE. SO, DOWN BELOW, DOWN BELOW, YOU, DOWN BELOW THAT IS A LINK TO, OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. SO IT GOES TO THE CITY'S JUST FOIA PAGE. SO IF THEY WANT TO MAKE A REQUEST, IT GOES TO THAT PAGE. THEY CAN OPEN ONE UP, THE NEXT LINK DOWN IS ACCESSES THE CITY'S APP THAT THEY PARTNERED WITH. SEECLICKFIX TO DEVELOP ACCESS THIS POINT. 
          AND THEN DOWN BELOW THAT, THE LAST THING ON THE PAGE IS JUST THE DIFFERENT ADOPTED BUDGETS FOR THE YEAR. SO IT'S JUST KIND OF INFORMATION THAT I THINK IS REQUESTED THE MOST THROUGH EITHER OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS OR JUST GENERAL, SEARCHES ON THE WEBSITE, PUT IT IN ONE PLACE JUST TO MAKE IT EASILY EASY TO FIND WHERE WOULD WHAT CLEAR GOV SO CLEAR GOV IS THAT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC. IT'S SOMEWHAT RELATED BUT IT'S A RIGHT. SO WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU WAS I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT SHOULD THE CITY WISH TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF IMPLEMENTING CLEAR GOV AND I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE AND I CAN ACTUALLY SHOW YOU, SO CLEAR GOV. WHETHER YOU'RE A CUSTOMER OR NOT HAS THEY, THEY SCREEN SCRAPE CITIES AND COUNTIES WEBSITES PUT INFORMATION ON THERE. SO THIS IS CLEAR GOV CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN FULTON COUNTY AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT EASTPOINTE IS ON THERE. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT A CUSTOME. 
          AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT EASTPOINTE IT BASICALLY TAKES INFORMATION FROM THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, THAT'S DONE KIND OF CENSUS LIKE INFORMATION. YEAH. AND IT'S GOT REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. AND SO EACH ONE OF THOSE LITTLE TABS WORK. BUT THAT IS JUST GENERAL INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE BUDGET, IN THE BUDGET BOOK. THAT'S PUBLISHED ONLINE WITHOUT ANY WORK FROM, FROM ANYONE, AND SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO WITH THEIR SOFTWARE AND YOU IMPLEMENT IT AND LINK EVERYTHING UP TOGETHER, CAN YOU PULL UP, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE PAGE? AND GO TO MILTON? SO THE CITY OF MILTON, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES I MENTIONED TO YOU LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE PROJECTS, DEBT. THEY HAVE THE OPEN CHECKBOOK FEATURE, AND THEN THEY HAVE OTHER DASHBOARDS. SO THEY'VE THEY'VE KIND OF TAKEN THIS TO, TO THE NEXT LEVEL WITH THIS PARTICULAR SOFTWARE. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT EACH ONE AND THEY CAN TRACK PROJECTS, ANY BIG PROJECTS GOING ON, ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU CAN USE TO SHOW TO WHOMEVER WANTS TO LOOK AT IT. THE PROGRESS ON THESE THINGS. SO THIS IS WHAT A FULLY IMPLEMENTED VERSION OF CLEAR GOV LOOKS LIKE, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THE FREE VERSION OUT THERE THAT THEY'VE PUT UP BECAUSE THEY CAN, BECAUSE IT'S FREE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OR FROM THE CITY, BUT THE REST OF IT IS THIS IS EVERYTHING ELSE ON IT. SO I BELIEVE THIS PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS NUMBER 1288. I THINK THEY'RE 18 AND 12 PRETTY MUCH ARE. YES, MA'AM. I THINK THEY'RE VERY RELATED. I COMBINED THE TWO. SO THAT'S WHY I WENT TO 18 WITH 12. YEAH. YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO SHARE. SO SOME INFORMATION ABOUT CLEAR GOV OR CONCERN. SO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY SOFTWARE EVEN ONES LIKE THIS TAKES CONSIDERABLE EFFORT. AND WITH THE WAY THAT THE CITY IS STAFFED RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE HAVE INTERIM DIRECTORS IN PLACE AND INTERIM DIRECTORS AND DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE JUST STILL DOING THEIR OLD JOBS AS WELL AS INTERIM AND THE NEW JOBS, I DON'T THINK IT SETS THE CITY UP FOR THE MOST SUCCESS. IF WE TRY AND IMPLEMENT THE SOFTWARE WITHOUT HAVING PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THIS SOFTWARE. AND SO WHAT I WHAT I 
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DON'T WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR IS PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN KNOWING THAT THE STAFF, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S AN IT PROJECT, BUT REALLY IT'S MOSTLY FINANCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE INFORMATION COMES FROM. THAT'S WHERE IT'S MAPPED TO. IT'S NOT IT DATA. IT'S FINANCE DATA. AND I WOULD WORRY THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO EFFECTIVELY AND CORRECTLY IMPLEMENT THE SOFTWARE. AND SO I, I WOULD SAY I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO, TO FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE TO SHOW THIS, BUT NOT IN THE STAFFING LEVEL, NOT WITH THE, THE, THE STAFFING WHERE THE CITY IS RIGHT NOW. AND I'M JUST ADVISING YOU, I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO EXPEND ANY MONEY ON A PROJECT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. WAIT TILL WE GET AN IT DEPARTMENT WHO FULLY STAFFS THE IT DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT STAFF IS NEEDED. WELL, I WOULD SAY WAIT UNTIL YOU GET FINANCE. NOT NECESSARILY. I MEAN FINANCE IT CITY MANAGER I MEAN, YES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CHAMPION FOR THIS PROJECT FOR THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT TO PUSH IT THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY. HOW MUCH DOES IT COST, I BELIEVE TIFFANY SAID LAST MEETING WAS LIKE 59,000 TO IMPLEMENT IT ANNUALLY. YES, MA'AM. IT'S A SUBSCRIPTION. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER FREELY. 
          YEAH. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, COULD YOU CLICK ON, LIKE, EXPENDITURES OR DEBT JUST SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? SO ON EASTPOINTE'S WEBSITE, IT'S GOT THE BREAKDOWN AS WELL. BUT WHEN YOU MAP IT CORRECTLY, YOU CAN DRILL DOWN AND SEE DETAILED EXPENDITURES. IF IT GOES DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT, AND IT GOES PAST FISCAL YEARS TO CURRENT FISCAL YEARS. OKAY AND THEN THE VIEW BREAKDOWN LOOKS LIKE WHAT. OKAY. I THINK IF YOU GO TO LIKE THE PROJECTS IT WILL SHOW SOME OF THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE DOING AS WELL. AND THEN. YEAH SO THESE ARE MOSTLY THE ROAD PROJECTS WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AT. AND I NOTICED WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO, POWER, YOU ALSO WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO PUT PROJECTS ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS. AND SO THIS COULD BE A WAY THAT IT'S EASILY ACCOMPLISHED AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. 
          SECOND. CHECKBOOK INFORMATION COME FROM IT COMES FROM THEIR, GL ACCOUNT. LIKE BSA SPEAKS TO IT? YES, MA'AM. LIKE THAT IT WOULD COME FROM BSA. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS ARE SEPARATE, BUT ANYTHING THAT IS CHARGED OR PAID IS, CONNECTED TO A GL ACCOUNT OR GL. A GENERAL LEDGER LINE ITEM. RIGHT? SO WOULDN'T THAT INFORMATION STILL BE A PART OF THIS? NOT THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT AND THE WAY THAT THAT CLEAR GOV EXPLAINED IT TO US WAS THAT IT ONLY HAS. SO YOU WOULD ONLY SEE THE DATE AND WHAT REVENUE OR WHAT LINE ITEM IS ATTACHED TO WHO IT WAS PAID TO. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A DEFINITION THAT'S PRE-WRITTEN ABOUT THAT LINE ITEM OR THAT THAT REVENUE LINE, THAT'S THE INFORMATION YOU GET IS THAT THAT'S THAT IT SAYS EXPENDITURES, CULTURE, RECREATION. SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO LIKE TRAINING EDUCATION AND TRAINING WILL JUST SAY EDUCATION. IT'LL JUST SAY EDUCATION AND TRAINING. YES MA'AM. NOT THE NOT WHO WAS WITH OR HOW MUCH IT COSTS. HOW MUCH THAT UNLESS IT WAS BY ITSELF. BUT AGAIN IT WOULD JUST SAY IT WOULDN'T EVEN SAY THAT. IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW IT'S CATEGORIZED. SO IT WOULD SAY REGIONS BANK FOR THIS AMOUNT. AND THEN YOU WOULD CATEGORIZE IT BY. HOWEVER, FINANCE CATEGORIZES THE EXPENDITURE. SO WHETHER IT'S I DON'T KNOW HOW EDUCATION AND TRAINING OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS AND THEN THE AMOUNT. SO YOU WOULDN'T SEE WHAT IT IS. CORRECT. AND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING HAD THE ABILITY TO DRILL DOWN. YOU CAN'T DRILL DOWN IN THE CHECKBOOK. I THINK THIS IS AS DEEP AS YOU CAN GO, WHICH IS JUST THE, THE ESSENTIALLY THE WHAT A LINE EXPENSE LOOKS LIKE. WHICH REMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. 
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YES. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POINT WHERE YOU HAD THE LINK UP UNDER THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PICTURES. YES, MA'AM. YES. MY QUESTION IS FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. DO OTHER CITIES DO THIS? I'VE SEEN IT. YES, MA'AM. THEY LINK THE CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS UP UNDER THE PERSON'S PICTURE. I'VE SEEN IT. IT MAY NOT BE THEIR PICTURE, BUT THEIR NAME. BECAUSE EACH CREDIT CARD USER, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ATTACH IT TO SOMEONE. SO IT'S NOT A PICTURE? DEFINITELY THEIR NAME. 
          IS IT A POLICY THAT NEEDED TO BE PASSED IN ORDER TO DO THIS OR, POLICY WITH RESPECT TO THE SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SOME IT PLATFORM TO DO THIS OR, YEAH, I WOULD THINK THERE, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A POLICY, I GUESS A RULE SAYING THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO HAVE YOUR CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS UPLOADED ON THE, ON THE, THE WEBSITE FOR THE TRANSPARENCY. IT PLATFORM, WHATEVER THIS IS. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. HERE'S MY QUESTION, IS IT JUST THE STATEMENTS? IS IT ANY SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS THAT GO WITH THIS? BECAUSE IF YOU JUST PUT STATEMENTS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RUN WITH IT AND ASSUME AND NOT AND THERE ARE NO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TO GO WITH THESE STATEMENTS, I COULD PUT ANYTHING THAT I'M PROVIDED ON THERE. THIS WAS JUST FOR DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES TO SHOW THE COUNCIL POTENTIALLY WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE, SO I CAN PUT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR THE CREDIT CARD STATEMENT, OR I CAN HAVE IT PART OF ONE BIG PDF FILE. IT'S ALL THE SAME. I CAN PUT AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE AS AS YOU ALL WOULD LIKE ME TO PUT ON THERE, BUT THERE WOULD BE IF THE CITY DECIDED IF THE COUNCIL VOTED TO DO THAT, THEN THE COUNCIL PERSON WOULD SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN POST MY STATEMENTS ONLINE. IF IT'S A POLICY, I GUESS THAT'S THE POLICY. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE QUESTION. SO YOUR POLICY WOULD NEED TO SAY, IS THIS A MUST? IS THIS A MAY HOW OFTEN YOU WANT YOUR DOCUMENTS POSTED LIKE YOU GUYS WOULD NEED TO DECIDE THAT THE IT DIRECTOR WOULD JUST DO WHAT THE POLICY SAYS AND WHO WOULD MAINTAIN THAT? THE CITY CLERK OFFICE, WHO WOULD MAINTAIN THAT? SO THE CITY CLERK CURRENTLY MAINTAINS OR OR HANDLES ALL OF THE COUNCIL'S CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS. SHE WOULD JUST SEND US THE LATEST ONE AND WE COULD EITHER KEEP ADDING THEM, WE CAN DECIDE TO ONLY PUT THE LAST THREE MONTHS LIKE, HOWEVER. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID THAT IT YOU WOULD RATHER WAIT UNTIL WE GET SOMEBODY IN FINANCE TO DO THE OTHER PIECE, BUT WOULDN'T THIS BE THE SAME? YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THIS WITH ANY OTHER PIECE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW. I'M SAYING FOR US, THE WORKLOAD, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR UPLOADING IT? OH, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE WEB, THE WEB DEVELOPER THAT'S ON THE STAFF, WHO MAINTAINS THE CITY'S WEBSITE? SHE'S THE ONE THAT DID THIS PAGE. SO FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THE WORK IS DONE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOUR APPROVAL. IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT, THEN WE GO BACK AND TWEAK IT AND MAKE IT WHAT YOU WANT. SO I THINK, THIS MAY BE CONNECTED TO THE CREDIT CARD POLICY AND TRAVEL POLICY ITEM. THAT'S NEXT, BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO ADOPT IT BY POLICY FOR IT TO HAPPEN. AND THEN THE CLEAR GOV. IT SOUNDS LIKE THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED A TABLE UNTIL WE GET SOME, FINANCE AT CITY MANAGER OR CITY MANAGER CAN HIRE THOSE PEOPLE. BUT I THINK THIS PROVIDES GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS. IS THERE A LANDING PAGE FOR THAT, LIKE CAN BECAUSE THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS LIVE AND EXTERNAL. SO LIKE IS THERE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE ADDRESS THAT WE CAN GO TO LOOK AT THOSE OTHER CITIES OR OURS. SO, SO IT'S CLEAR GOV. COM OKAY. SLASH GEORGIA SLASH COM SLASH GEORGIA SLASH FULTON. AND I WILL JUST TAKE YOU TO ALL OF THE CITIES IN FULTON COUNTY OKAY. AND YOU CAN CHANGE FULTON TO HENRY OR FAYETTE OR WHATEVER YOU CAN. OKAY. AND SEE WHICH CITIES ARE THERE AND ALSO WHAT CITIES OTHER CITIES ARE POSTING THE STATEMENTS. YEAH, THAT WOULD 
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BE GOOD INFORMATION. SO WE THINK THAT WHAT IT IS I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, IF COULD YOU HELP US WITH THAT. CERTAINLY TO FIND WHAT CITIES POST CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS. IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. NO PROBLEM. YEP. THANK YOU. THAT'S A SEGUE INTO THE NEXT ONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM TONIGHT. NO MA'AM. OKAY. PERFECT ALRIGHT. 13 CREDIT CARD POLICY AND TRAVEL POLICY. WE RECEIVED A DRAFT TODAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS. I KNOW I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER, WHAT HAS BEEN SHARED. WE CAN START SOME DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THESE DRAFTS, REVIEW THEM, AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AT THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION. WHAT'S COUNCIL? YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER, I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO GO OVER THESE, THESE DRAFT POLICIES AND COME BACK TO IT IN OCTOBER WORK SESSION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR SHARING, COUNCILOR, I MEAN, I HAD A TIME TO I HAD SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH THEM, COULD PROBABLY USE SOME MORE, BUT I DID HAVE JUST. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AROUND, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE TRAVEL POLICY, BUT WE CAN WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE BROADER DISCUSSION, WHICH IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS BASED UPON YOUR REVIEW OR IF YOU WANT TO WAIT TO OCTOBER, IT'S GOING TO THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION, THOUGH. 
          OKAY. WELL, I'LL JUST ASK, MOST OF THEM WERE SORT OF RELATED TO THE SAME THING, AND I ASSUME MY I'M ADDRESSING MY QUESTIONS TO ATTORNEY WIGGINS. OKAY. SO ON THE TRAVEL POLICY, MY MAIN CONFUSION WAS, THAT IT REFERS REPEATEDLY THROUGH THE POLICY ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING SOMETHING. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN OUR CURRENT APPROACH TO TRAVEL, IF WE ARE TRAVELING TO A CONFERENCE OR SOMETHING, WE USE THE CITY CREDIT CARD FOR AIR TRAVEL AND ACCOMMODATION, AND THEN WE GET AN ACTUAL CHECK FOR THE PER DIEM. SO THERE IS NO REIMBURSEMENT. AS I UNDERSTAND IT. SO THAT CONFUSED ME THROUGHOUT THE POLICY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN? CERTAINLY. SO IF YOU LOOK ON, MAYBE THIS NEEDS PAGE NUMBERS. LOOKS LIKE IT'S PAGE THREE. AND THIS CAN BE REWORDED. IN RED. THAT PARAGRAPH THAT STARTS WITH WHEN A CITY CREDIT CARD IS USED FOR TRAVEL, IT THE REIMBURSEMENT IS REFERRING TO REIMBURSING THE CREDIT CARD, NOT YOU, BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE PAID WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD. OH OKAY. 
          THAT DID CONFUSE ME. CREDIT CARD? NO. THE CITY ONE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO REIMBURSEMENT IT EXPLAINS THAT IT'S PAYING THE CREDIT CARD OFF YOUR CITY CREDIT CARD, NOT THE NOT YOUR PERSONAL CREDIT CARD. BECAUSE IF YOU WOULD HAVE USED YOUR CITY CREDIT CARD FOR THE TRAVEL RIGHT, IT SAYS THAT IT IS TO. IT'S LIMITED TO THE PAYMENT OF THE CREDIT CARD BILL. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE PAYING THE CREDIT CARD PEOPLE THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE LANGUAGE IS RIGHT, NOT YOUR PERSONAL. EXACTLY. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO WORD THAT OKAY, SO TWO PEOPLE ARE TALKING. SO COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLI HAS THE MIC. CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I'M JUST WONDERING IS THERE SOME BETTER WAY TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL CONFUSED BY IT. SO THAT'S ASSUMING THAT ALL TRAVEL IS DONE ON CITY CREDIT CARD. IF IT IS, THEN YOU'RE RIGHT. WE CAN SAY IT A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT IF THERE'S TRAVEL THAT HAPPENS THAT YOU MAY PAY FOR OUT OF POCKET, THEN YOU WOULD GET A REIMBURSEMENT, YOU KNOW, IN THE TRADITIONAL WAY, GETTING PAID BACK FOR THE RECEIPTS THAT YOU PRESENT. IF YOU USED YOUR OWN VISA. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I WOULD NEED Y'ALL TO ANSWER IS OR WE SEPARATE IT OUT. IF YOU TRAVEL WITH YOUR OWN CREDIT CARD OR IF YOU TRAVEL WITH THE CITY, CREDIT CARD AND YOU KIND OF HAVE TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO GETTING YOUR MONEY BACK OR TO GETTING YOUR CITY CREDIT CARD PAID, BUT IF ALL TRAVEL IS DONE VIA CITY CREDIT CARD, THEN YEAH, WE CAN SAY IT A DIFFERENT WAY. OKAY, I THINK WE 
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NEED TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION. YES. SOMEHOW OKAY. THAT WAS LIKE A COMMENT I MADE THROUGHOUT BECAUSE I WAS JUST COMPLETELY CONFUSED. SO YOU CLEARED UP SEVERAL OF MY QUESTIONS AND THEN JUST ONE COMMENT, AND I GUESS YOU'RE CALLING THAT PAGE THREE. YES SO AT THE BOTTOM OF WHAT IS PAGE THREE, THE ONE LINE ON INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL AND APPROVAL. IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT THAT BELONGED UNDER AUTHORIZATION, WHICH I GUESS IS PAGE TWO. SO YOU WOULD MOVE THE INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL AUTHORIZATION TO AUTHORIZATION FOR TRAVEL FOR. YES. OKAY. THAT CAN BE MOVED. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND IT JUST I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS A SUBHEAD OR SOMETHING, BUT THAT. SO THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME, IN MY BRIEF REVIEW, OH, AND THEN ON THE CREDIT CARD POLICY, HERE UNDER G RECEIPTS AND DOCUMENTATION, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IN THE IN RED IT SAYS FOR FOOD SLASH MEAL PURCHASES FOR MEETINGS, SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION SHALL BLAH BLAH BLAH. SHOULD THAT BE EXPANDED FROM JUST MEETINGS TO EVENTS? GATHERINGS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS A SUGGESTION THAT, COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER HAD AT THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. SO IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND THAT, CERTAINLY. 
          BUT I PUT EXACTLY WHAT SHE ASKED FOR. OKAY SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR MEETINGS TO NOT FOR FOOD AND MEAL PURCHASES TO NOT ONLY INCLUDE MEETINGS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING GATHERINGS? I DON'T HAVE A SET VERBIAGE, BUT IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT MEETINGS SOUNDED VERY NARROW, OFFICIAL AND NARROW. OKAY, WELL, IT WILL HELP. BETTER IF I HAD MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO. AND THEN I CAN MAYBE PUT SOME VERBIAGE AROUND IT. WHERE THIS WOULD APPLY. IT MADE SENSE WITH THE MEETINGS WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I'M NOT SURE IF I FOLLOW YET. I'LL GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT. OKAY AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS UNDER K VIOLATIONS, AND YOU'RE STEALING CREDIT CARD, RIGHT? YEAH. YES. I'M HERE, ITEM G COLLECTION OF THE ACTUAL AMOUNT THAT WAS SPEN, AND IT ALMOST SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT'S KIND OF AUTOMATIC. THAT REPAYMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED. OR IS THAT OR ARE WE CONSIDERING IT OPTIONAL. SO IF THE AMOUNT SPENT WAS NOT AN AUTHORIZED AMOUNT, THIS IS SAYING THAT ONE OF THE PENALTIES CAN BE THAT YOUR, PAY, CAN BE DOCKED FOR THE IMPROPER PURCHASE. WHILE IT MAY BE AUTOMATIC, I WOULD THINK YOU STILL WOULD WANT THAT TO BE WRITTEN. SO ANY USER. SO THIS IS THIS IS GARNISHMENT ESSENTIALLY NOT GARNISHMENT. GARNISHMENT WOULD REQUIRE THERE TO BE A LAWSUIT FILED IN THE MAGISTRATE COURT. OKAY, THIS IS YOU SAYING I AGREE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CREDIT CARD POLICY REQUIRES SIGNATURE BY THE USER WHO'S EVER ISSUED ONE. I AGREE TO HAVE MY PAY DOCKED IF I DO MAKE AN IMPROPER PURCHASE. SO YOU WOULDN'T GO TO THE GARNISHMENT ROUTE. OKAY, I USE THE WRONG WORD. OKAY, SO IF THEY DIDN'T PROACTIVELY PAY THE AMOUNT TO THE CITY, IF THEY DID NOT, IF THE PERSON DID NOT PROACTIVELY PAY THAT AMOUNT TO THE CITY, THIS WOULD BE THE OPTION OF TAKING FROM THE WAGES. OKAY GOT IT. THAT WAS IT. THANKS. YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. YES, AND I'LL NEED MORE TIME TO DIGEST THIS. BUT UNDER THE SECTION OF RENTAL CARS, IT SAYS THAT RENTAL VEHICLES ARE NOT TO BE USED UNLESS THE COST IS LESS THAN THAT OF OTHER AVAILABLE TRANSPORTATION, SUCH AS RIDESHARE TAXIS, AIRPORT, LIMOUSINE, ALL THE WAY. AND THEN IT SAYS IN MANY CASES, A HOTEL SHUTTLE, TAXI OR AIRPORT LIMOUSINE LIMOUSINE OFFERS A FAST, CONVENIENT AND ECONOMICAL MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. IF A CAR RENTAL IS NECESSARY TO REDUCE CAR COSTS, CITY REPRESENTATIVES SHOULD SHARE RENTAL CARS. YES USE THE APPROPRIATE SIZE CARS 
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INDICATED BELOW AND UTILIZE ANY DISCOUNT CERTIFICATES OFFERED BY THE TRAVEL AGENCY AND OR THE CAR AGENCY. THE USE OF THE RENTAL CAR MUST BE JUSTIFIED AS AN ECONOMICAL NEED AND NOT AS A MATTER OF PERSONAL CONVENIENCE. VEHICLES MAY BE RENTED. THAT INFORMATION IN THEIR MOST COSTS. 
          WHEN YOU ARE RIDE SHARING, IT IS, I GUESS, LESS EXPENSIVE TO RENT A CAR VERSUS, RIDE SHARING. 
          BUT I GUESS IT'S THE PEACE OF SHARING A RENTAL CAR WITH SOMEONE. BUT I'M GOING TO DIGEST THIS AND I'LL JUST EMAIL YOU MY FURTHER OBSERVATIONS. BUT WHAT IF COUNCIL IS TRAVELING AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE A RENTAL CA? YEAH, THAT KIND OF BINDS US. THEN DON'T YOU KNOW WE. THIS IS A DRAFT, OKAY? IT'S JUST FOR Y'ALL TO DISCUSS. YEAH, THAT'S. AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT I, I'M JUST AS I'M JUST SITTING HERE JUST QUICKLY GOING THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, AND OFTENTIMES YOU HAVE THAT SURGE WITH UBER. UBER LYFT THE LIMOUSINE NOW OFFERS YOU RIDES TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT. AND ALL OF THOSE PRICE POINTS ARE EITHER THE SAME OR THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, I USE RIGHT. SO RENTAL CAR IS IF SOMETHING ELSE IS NOT, AVAILABLE OR IF SOMETHING IS MORE EXPENSIVE. SO THAT SO I DID PARSE OUT RIDE SHARE. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN RED WHICH PROVIDES THE SAME THING THAT IF RIDESHARE IS MORE ECONOMICAL. AND SO THE APPROACH THAT I HEARD FROM COUNCIL THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS THAT YOU GUYS WANTED A MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO SPENDING, AND SO I DID PUT IN CLAUSES, PHRASES THAT WOULD MAYBE ACHIEVE THAT, SO SHARING THAT KIND OF THING WAS, DRAFTED. BUT IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A DRAFT AND WHATEVER CAN GET MAJORITY APPROVAL IS CERTAINLY WHAT I WILL WRITE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. I'LL HAVE TIME TO DIGEST. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. AND TO BRING THAT UP THAT THAT MEANS THAT THAT WOULD WIPE EVERYBODY OUT FROM GOING TO SAVANNAH. BECAUSE WHO'S GOING TO. YOU WOULD HAVE TO RIDE, SHARE OR FLY OR WHATEVER. AND IT MIGHT BE EASY OR CONVENIENT TO REACH YOUR CAR. I THINK PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS RENTED A CAR AND DROVE TO SAVANNAH. NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO RIDE, SHARE, OR COMMUTE? HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS IN SAYING THAT NO RIGHT? A RIDE SHARE IN SAVANNAH WOULD BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND IT'S LIMITED TO 30 MILES, SO NO RIDE SHARE WOULD NOT BE AN OPTION. SO HE HERE'S THE HERE'S THE THING WHY YOU SHOULDN'T RIDE SHARE IF YOU ARE ALL IN A CAR AND LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND SOMEONE IS GOD FORBID, TAKES THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OUT, THEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. I MEAN, SO RIDE SHARE SHARING WITH SOMEONE TO TRAVEL. ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT SO THAT THAT'S IN, THAT POSES A PROBLEM FOR ME. THE SECOND ONE IS. WHO WHO'S TO SAY WHAT, WHEN IT GETS TO THE RECEIPTS AND IT SAYS FOR PURCHASES, MEETING SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS SHALL ONLY BE INCLUDED RECEIPTS AND INVOICE. BUT SHALL INCLUDE THE PERSON IN ATTENDANCE. THE TYPE OF MEETING AND THE TOPIC DISCUSSED. THE COPY OF THE AGENDA MUST BE PROVIDED, BEFORE THE CARD ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVES THE PAYMENT FOR THE CHARGES NOT SUPPORTED BY THE DOCUMENTATIONS OR SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATIONS. YOU HAD TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL TO GET IT APPROVED. SO WHAT WHAT WHAT PEOPLE MAY THINK THAT'S. AND I'M GOING TO SAY AMAZON. THEY MIGHT THINK OH THAT'S NOT CITY RELATE. 
          YOU GOTTA PAY FOR THAT TO ME I THINK EVERYBODY USES AMAZON. SO NOW YOU'RE GETTING IN THE BACK AND FORTH OF WHAT SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T BE PAID. WHEN YOU USE YOUR CREDIT CARD OR, OR THIS HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE IT'S PAID AND THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED. THAT'S, THAT'S PUTTING THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OR THE CITY CLERK IN THE SITUATION THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY, IF WHATEVER YOU'RE USING YOUR CREDIT CARD IS FOR IS CITY BUSINESS, IF IT'S 
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BEING SHIPPED HERE, IT'S CITY BUSINESS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE RIDE SHARE AND THIS I, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE MY DECISIONS. SO MADAM MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST ADD THAT, THE HOPE IS THAT THERE BE SOME CONSENSUS AROUND SOMETHING. IT MAY NOT BE ANYTHING ON THE EITHER OF THESE PAPERS. RIGHT. YOU GUYS MAY DECIDE TO COME UP WITH A TOTALLY DIFFERENT POLICY THAN WHAT WAS DRAFTED, ONLY A SUGGESTION AND A RESULT OF CONVERSATIONS HERE IN THESE MEETINGS FROM DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAKING OUT AS TO WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. I CAN DO 7 OR 8 DIFFERENT DRAFTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY WILL, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO CONSENSUS AROUND ONE POLICY OR YOU KNOW, PROVISIONS IN ONE POLICY, THERE LIKELY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, DRAFTS. I CAN DO THAT. THAT'S FINE. HAPPY TO DO IT. AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS WHICH ONE, GETS MAJORITY VOTE. OTHERWISE WE CAN GO THROUGH IT. RIGHT. AND JUST GO THROUGH EACH PROVISION AND SEE WHERE THERE IS CONSENSUS SO WE CAN GET TO A DOCUMENT, BUT I CERTAINLY AM NOT A PROMOTER NOR OBJECTOR TO ANY OF THESE. I DON'T I DON'T TAKE AUTHORSHIP. YOU KNOW, OF THESE DOCUMENTS AND THAT YOU'VE GOTTA APPROVE THIS. THIS IS CERTAINLY JUST WHAT I'VE HEARD, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES, SOME OF WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE, SOME OF THIS IS A REPEAT OF WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. 
          AND, I'M HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE IN WRITING, BUT IT'S Y'ALL'S POLICY. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT MINE. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO DO A REDLINE OF OUR CURRENT POLICY TO SEE WHERE YOU'RE ADDING THINGS, VERSUS THIS LOOKS LIKE A WHOLE NEW DOCUMENT. BUT IF IT'S STUFF FROM THE CURRENT POLICY, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SEE IT AS A REDLINE. 
          SO START WITH THAT AND THEN REDLINE OTHER STUFF IN IT. IF POSSIBLE. THAT'S ONE SUGGESTION. 
          IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT REDLINING TO SAY WHAT THAT'S THE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. EVEN WITH THIS, EVEN WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT. THIS YOU JUST MENTIONED SOME OF THIS COMES FROM OUR EXISTING POLICY. YES. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT YOU'VE ADDED. RIGHT. SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT WE'RE STARTING WITH. SO IF IT'S EASIER TO START WITH THE CURRENT POLICY REDLINE, IT AND INCLUDE THIS INFORMATION. SOME OF IT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE REDLINING. SOME WILL BE ADDITIONS. SOME WILL BE WHAT EXISTS RIGHT? RIGHT. I THINK THAT'LL HELP. SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, WHAT'S CHANGING. WHAT DO WE HAVE THE OTHER THING AS IT RELATES TO RENTAL CARS. AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'LL, UNTIL NEXT MONTH. THERE'S TWO INSTANCES WHEN YOU WOULD RENT A CAR. YOU RENT A CAR FOR THE ENTIRE TRAVEL OR WHEN YOU GET THERE. RIGHT? AND SOMETIMES THAT MIGHT BE CHEAPER THAN A FLIGHT OR WHATEVER, OR JUST PREFERENCE, WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE TO FLY OR DRIVE, IF IT'S NOT A HUGE COST DIFFERENCE. AND THEN THERE'S RENTING A CAR WHEN YOU GET THERE, I KNOW THE RECENT ME TRIP, LIKE LITERALLY, I WAS LIKE, WELL, IF I'M GOING FROM JACKSONVILLE TO AMELIA ISLAND, IS IT CHEAPER TO RENT A CAR? SO I LOOKED AT RENTAL CAR RATES. I LOOKED AT, UBER AND LYFT RATES, AND I CALLED TO FIND OUT IF THERE WAS A SHUTTLE FROM THE HOTEL TO THE AIRPORT TO DECIDE THAT. YEAH, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO RENT A CAR. I'M JUST UBER. HUM, RIGHT. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHEN THERE. RIGHT LIKE WHETHER OR NOT, I MEAN, SOMETIMES A RENTAL CAR IS I MEAN, NOT ONLY THAT, WHEN YOU STAY AT CERTAIN HOTELS, THEY CHARGE YOU PER DAY FOR PARKING. RIGHT SO LIKE IN ADDITION TO WHEN I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE DECISION, NOT ONLY WAS THE RENTAL CAR PRICE, I HAD TO ASK THE HOTEL HOW MUCH THEY CHARGED DAILY FOR PARKING BECAUSE THAT ALL IS GOING TO GO WITH HAVING A CAR. RIGHT, SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO AND BEING, YOU KNOW, AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE. I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT INSTANCES WITH RENTAL CARS. IT IS ACTUALLY USING A CAR TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE VERSUS FLYING AND THEN HAVING THE CAR ONE THERE. SO I'LL JUST SAY FOR RENTAL CARS, MAYBE WE SHOULD ADDRESS BOTH BOTH SITUATIONS. SO, MADAM MAYOR, IF I COULD REQUEST THAT WE BRING THE EXISTING TRAVEL POLICY AND THE EXISTING CREDIT CARD POLICY BECAUSE REDLINING IT, I'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT SOME OF THE STUFF I READ, REDLINING WITH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, WHICH IS FINE, RIGHT? TAKE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT LET'S JUST START THERE AND HAVE YOU GUYS DISCUSS WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE SO THAT CAN BE THE PLACE TO START AS OPPOSED TO ME, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH 
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SOMETHING THAT LIKELY MAY NOT BE WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS. I THINK I PROPOSE A HYBRID BECAUSE WE KIND OF BEEN THROUGH THAT BEFORE. THIS IS, WE'VE SPENT A TIME, SOME TIME ON IT PREVIOUSLY, AND SO I THINK IT'S STARTING WITH THE CURRENT POLICIES. YOU HEARD ABOUT THE CONFUSION AROUND REIMBURSEMENT AND IT BEING TERMED THAT WAY. AND I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS AROUND THAT. SO THERE IS WHETHER YOU USE YOUR TRAVEL CARD ONLY OR IF YOU CHOOSE FOR WHATEVER REASON, TO ACTUALLY USE YOUR WHAT YOU USE YOUR CITI CARD, THERE'S THIS AND THEN YOUR PERSONAL CARD. THIS IS THAT'S THE REIMBURSEMENT RIGHT. BUT THAT'S A CHOICE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO THE CHOICE, BUT I THINK DOING THAT, IN A RED LINE OF BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE SOME THE RENTAL CAR WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. RIGHT. SO LIKE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS INFORMATION THERE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S NOT COMBINED WHEN WE I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN RED LINE THE EXISTING. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T START DOING THAT, WE'RE STILL JUST HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND WE'RE NOT SEEING HOW IT'S COMING TOGETHER. SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID OF WHAT YOU SAID, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION IN HER, SOME OF WHICH YOUR CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT ADDRESS. CORRECT. BUT I THINK THERE IS VALUE IN YOU TAKING THIS DOCUMENT AND MARRYING IT WITH A CURRENT POLICY, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GETTING TO LIKE, REFINING, BECAUSE WE CAN SEE WHAT EXISTS. WE CAN SEE WHAT'S HERE BASED. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING WHAT WE SAID TONIGHT, MERGING THAT TOGETHER TO THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND GOING THROUGH BECAUSE THEN THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON THE PAPER VERSUS THE GENERAL DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD A COUPLE TIMES. OKAY COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. THANK YOU, AND FOR THE TRAVEL POLICY, WE DO GET A PER DIEM, THAT WE, WE GET AND, I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON, IN THE TRAVEL POLICY ON WHAT IS THAT THAT'S TO BE USED FOR AND, AND HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE GET AND IF YOU'RE DRIVING, LIKE, WHERE, HOW HOW IS IT CALCULATED FOR, YOU KNOW, MILEAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO I THINK HAVING THOSE DETAILS WOULD BE GOOD. ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S CURRENTLY Y'ALL GET Y'ALL GET. SO WE GET PER DIEM BASED UPON THE FEDERAL RATE ON I'M NOT SURE WHAT PAGE IT IS. IT'S UNDER RIDESHARE SAYS MEALS AND INCIDENTAL TRAVEL EXPENSES. SO THAT'S WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT PER DIEM. AND THEN MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENTS. IF YOU DRIVE, PERSONAL VEHICLES IS ABOVE RENTAL CARS. MILEAGE SHOULD BE. SO THAT'S ADDRESSED THERE. AND WE USE THE FEDERAL RATE. I THINK FOR THAT AS WELL. FEDERAL OR STATE. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE IN GEORGIA STATE, IF YOU'RE OUT OF GEORGIA FEDERAL, AND THAT'S UPDATED ANNUALLY, I THINK. CORRECT. SO WE COULD JUST REFERENCE THOSE IN THOSE SECTIONS. PER DIEM. AND THEN THE PERSONAL VEHICLE MILEAGE. OKAY. 
          YEAH. IT IT IT REFERENCES THE FEDERAL RATE IN THE PERSONAL VEHICLES. OKAY. YEAH DOES IT I'M LOST, IS DOES IT SAY FROM WHERE THE STARTING POINT IS IT DOES IT DOES. OKAY I THINK I PUT FROM CITY HALL IS THE STARTING POINT AS OPPOSED TO LIKE YOUR HOME TO MAKE IT, THE SAME FOR EVERYONE. 
          BUT THAT CAN CHANGE THE POINT OF ORIGIN, YOU KNOW, FROM THE RETURN POINT. SO, I'LL LOOK AT YOUR, PER THE MAYOR'S SUGGESTION, LOOK AT YOUR CURRENT TRAVEL POLICY AND JUST MAKE THE NOTES OUTSIDE OF IT TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. OKAY? YEAH. I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW THE, MILEAGE STARTS FROM OUR HOUSE, NOT THE CITY HALL. RIGHT AND I FEEL LIKE THAT. THAT MAKES SENSE AS WELL, YEAH. AND I, I STILL, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING, FOR THE CREDIT CARD POLICY, THAT IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO, HAVE THE AGENDA AND WHO ATTENDED AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HAVE THAT TIED TO WHICH CREDIT CARD, YOU KNOW, ITEM THAT WAS FOR, THAT WAS FROM AND I THINK, TO COUNCILPERSON RIDLEY'S POINT, I THINK WE HAD STARTED TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT WE GOT DISTRACTED WITH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TO ADD ABOUT THE, YOU 
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KNOW, IF IT WAS AN EVENT OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN A MEETING, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ADD THAT PART INTO THE, INTO THE POLICY AS WELL. SO I, I CERTAINLY CAN ADD IT AS I ALREADY DID. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST PUT YOUR INITIALS AND COUNCILMAN RIDLEY'S INITIALS SO THAT LIKE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE MULTIPLE VERSIONS. RIGHT. BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE, SHE DOESN'T WANT THAT. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO RED LINE AND MAYBE BLUE LINE AND GREEN LINE, THESE THESE PROVISIONS SO YOU CAN KNOW WHO'S YOU KNOW WHO WANTS WHAT VERSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU CAN DO A, OPTION ONE. OPTION TWO FOR CERTAIN PROVISIONS. AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT ON SOME OF GMA'S MODEL STUFF. YEP THAT'S PERFECT. THAT WAY. AND WHETHER YOU SAY WHO IT IS OR NOT LIKE WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS. AND SO WE AGAIN THE GOAL IS TO SEE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE. AND THEN I THINK THAT'LL HELP TO YOUR POINT I THINK IS A GOOD POINT GOING THROUGH IT, RIGHT. TO TRY TO SEE WHERE THERE'S CONSENSUS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT TWO ITEMS WILL MAY POTENTIALLY TAKE ACTION. MADAM CITY CLERK, I HAD ASKED FOR 23 AND 24 TO BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT. YOU CAN JUST PLACE THEM ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN DISCUSS THEM ON MONDAY. WE WOULD ALSO HAVE 27, 28, 31, 32 WE CAN DISCUSS ON MONDAY. I'D ASK FOR THAT ONE TO BE, DISCUSSED TONIGHT. AND WE HAVE 37. SO 37, 31, 28, 27, IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER PREVIOUS ITEMS, NUMBER 14, AIRPORT KIDS MOBILITY STRATEGIES, MR. BROWN AND MR. ROGERS, YES, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, IF WE CAN GET MR. ROGERS HERE TO GIVE US A TALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL, MR. ROGERS, DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LET'S SEE. OKAY. WE'LL GET A DISPLAY UP HERE FOR YOU. REAL SOON, BACK IN 2019, THE, ATLANTA AEROTROPOLIS, CONDUCTED A, FEASIBILITY STUDY TO, UNDERSTAND THEIR, COMMUTER NEEDS. AND WHAT THEY DID IS THAT THEY THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE AREA WAS A 24 OVER SEVEN, DISTRICT IN TERMS OF MOBILITY, PEOPLE GOING BACK AND FORTH TO WORK AND, AND JUST TRAVEL IN GENERAL. AND OUT OF THAT, THEY FOUND THAT, BOTH TRAVELER AND EMPLOYEE, THERE, THERE EXISTED A VOID BECAUSE THERE WASN'T, TRANSPORTATION, NEEDS AND SO WHAT YOU WILL HAVE HERE IS A, AIRPORT CITY, MOBILITY STRATEGY INITIATIVE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO, IMPLEMENT NEXT YEAR, FIRST QUARTER OF 2025. AND AS SOON AS WE GET THE MAP UP, WE CAN I CAN TALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT. AND OKAY. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS A, AN INITIATIVE THAT INVOLVES BOTH THE, AIRPORT SOUTH SIDE AS WELL AS, AIRPORT WEST SIDE. SOUTH CONSISTS OF HAPEVILLE, EAST POINT, COLLEGE PARK, CITY OF ATLANTA, AND OF COURSE, PORTIONS OF THE AIRPORT AND, AIRPORT WEST CONSISTS OF CLAYTON COUNTY, FOREST PARK AND OF COURSE, ALL OF THE AIRPORT AS WELL. AND THEY WILL BOTH, SET OFF WITH RESPECT TO THIS INITIATIVE, REGARDING THESE TWO KIDS. AGAIN NEXT YEAR, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING TO START THE RFP PROCESS IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS IN TERMS OF WHO WILL, THEY WILL, CONTRACT TO ACTUALLY DO THE, THE COMMUTER, PLAN. IT IS A TWO YEAR PILOT PROGRAM. SO THE FUNDING IS ALREADY IN PLACE. THAT WAS SET, BACK IN 2019. AND SO THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE HERE IS, JUST AN OUTLINE BASICALLY. RIGHT NOW, EASTPOINTE CITY 
          [04:30:07]
BOUNDARY AND YELLOW, CITY OF HAPEVILLE AND THE PINK COLOR AND OF COURSE, YOU HAVE, THE HOTEL LOCATIONS IN RED RESTAURANTS AND ORANGE, RETAIL IN GREEN. THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND IN PURPLE. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, THE PROPOSED STATIONS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD GET ON AND GET OFF, IN BLUE. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE, REGARDING THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, IS THE CONCENTRATED AREAS THAT, WE REFER TO AS OUR HOSPITALITY AREAS, CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE, ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE, OF COURSE, THE VIRGINIA AVENUE AREA IN THE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, LOWER CORNER OF THE CITY BOUNDARY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, KIND OF RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA OF, OF EASTPOINTE. AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY OF HAPEVILLE, YOU HAVE DOWNTOWN HAPEVILLE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, POINTS, WITH RESPECT TO, THIS PROPOSED STATION, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, DOWNTOWN AND, SO THE, THE BLUE THAT YOU SEE, THE BLUE DOTS, WE WOULD HAVE, STATIONS OUT AT CAMP CREEK, BOTH OUTSIDE AND TO AND INSIDE OF 285, THEN YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER STATION RIGHT THERE AT, KEMP CREEK AND WASHINGTON ROAD INTERSECTION, YOU WOULD HAVE A STATION AT THE AIRPORT, AT THE, THE MODEL STOP THERE WHERE THE TRAIN COMES INTO THE AIRPORT AT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER STATION DOWNTOWN, EAST POINT, NEAR THE MARTA STATION. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, A, AN IDEA OF HAVING A STATION RIGHT THERE AT MAIN AND WILLINGHAM AND THEN HAVE A STATION RIGHT THERE AND THE VIRGINIA AVENUE AREA, ANOTHER STATION AT, SYLVAN ROAD RIGHT THERE AT THE, OWENS, ILLINOIS SITE. AND IT WAS IT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE ON THE BOUNDARY LINE OF HAPEVILLE AND EAST POINT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IN HAPEVILLE, YOU WOULD HAVE A, A STATION DOWNTOWN, BASICALLY AT NORTH CENTRAL AND PERHAPS, FULTON AVENUE, I SHOULD SAY. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE DOWN, BASICALLY AT THE KIMPTON HOTEL, RIGHT NEXT TO THE PORSCHE EXPERIENCE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, FINALLY YOU WOULD HAVE A STATION AT DELTA HEADQUARTERS THERE IN HAPEVILLE ON VIRGINIA AVENUE AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THE STATIONS. THOSE ARE THE TWO CITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU HAVE THE RESTAURANTS, RETAIL DISTRICT, THE HOTELS. AND OF COURSE, THIS NEXT, IMAGE, IF YOU CAN SEE IT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED ROUTE. SO YOU HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY FROM CAMP CREEK, MARKETPLACE AREA DOWN CAMP CREEK, TO THE AIRPORT, UP TO VIRGINIA AVENUE, DOWN VIRGINIA AVENUE, DELTA, CROSSING OVER AND GETTING TO THE FAR EAST SIDE OF HAPEVILLE TO THE KIMPTON OR PORSCHE EXPERIENCE LOCATION BACK TO DOWNTOWN, ACROSS THE OWENS-ILLINOIS SITE. AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU WOULD GET ON TO WILLINGHAM, TREK UP WILLINGHAM TO MAIN STREET, AND THEN OF COURSE, DOWNTOWN EAST POINT. ALL OF THIS TO SAY THAT THE EXISTING CDD, KIDS DO NOT HAVE A DOWNTOWN EAST POINT, FOR EXAMPLE, LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. SO IT WOULD BE BASICALLY EXPANDING THE CITY TO INCLUDE THOSE AREAS FOR TRANSPORTATION. TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES. AND OF COURSE, THE LAST MAP HERE JUST SHOWS YOU, WHAT THE EXISTING KIDS, IN TERMS OF THE AREAS THAT THEY DO COVER, LOOKS LIKE WITH RESPECT TO THE MAJOR INTERSTATES AND ARTERIES THAT TRAVERSE THROUGH THOSE COMMUNITIES. AND WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. AND, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW YOU WORK WITH STAFF TO AND TALK WITH GERALD MCDOWELL AS WELL TO TRY TO BRING THIS DRAFT TOGETHER FOR US. COUNCIL, AT THIS JUNCTURE, IF WE APPROVE THE DRAFT ELECTRIC MOBILITY MAP, 
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THEN AGAIN, IT'S A DRAFT. IT'S NOT PERMANENT, BUT IT GIVES IT WOULD GIVE THE CITY SOMETHING TO TALK WITH THE, VENDOR THAT THEY SELECT ABOUT COMING UP WITH, WHAT IT WOULD COST, AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, FUNDING PARTNERS THAT CAN BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE'D ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET A DOLLAR AMOUNT. RIGHT. TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND SO THE, A MAP OF THE AREA IS NEEDED FOR THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE VENDOR AND THEN BRING BACK TO US INFORMATION. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS DRAFT. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FINAL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AND PRICE OUT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO, ADD THAT TO THE PRESENTATION, IT DOES INDICATE ACTION MAY BE TAKEN TONIGHT. AND THE ACTION THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT ELECTRIC MOBILITY MAP, FOR THE SID DISTRICT FOR WHAT IS IT, ATL AIRPORT. TO AIRPORT. SEE, I'D MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT ELECTRIC MOBILITY STUDY FOR THE. ATLANTA AIRPORT. SID TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE AIRPORT COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. OKAY, MISSY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE WAS IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION. DID YOU MENTION THAT THE ATL AIRPORT SID. THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CHOOSING THE VENDOR? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID, CHOOSING A THEY'RE GOING TO PUT OUT AN RFP FOR THE ENTITY THAT WILL, BE SELECTED TO ACTUALLY START THE PROGRAM, IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM NEXT YEAR. SO COULD YOU GO TO THE MAP, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? SO IS THAT THE FOUR POINT SHERIDAN. AND IS THAT MAP GOING THROUGH THE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE? YES. 
          IT'S IT IS CORRECT. THE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE FOUR POINT SHERIDAN IS JUST INSIDE OF 285. SO YOU CAN BASICALLY GO THERE AND THE IDEA WOULD BE TO MAYBE, CONNECT TO RED WINE ROAD ON THE BACKSIDE, AND THEN ENTER, CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE, FROM, REDWINE ROAD. OR YOU COULD CERTAINLY GO TO FOUR POINTS BY SHERIDAN, COME BACK TO CAMP CREEK AND GET ON CAMP CREEK AND TAKE THE DIVERGING DIAMOND INTERCHANGE TO THE MARKETPLACE AS WELL. SO AS THIS PROPOSED MAP FINAL, IF WE VOTE ON THIS, I'M SORRY, IS THIS PROPOSED MAP FINAL? IF WE NO. 
          NO, SIR. NOT NOT BY A LONG SHOT. THIS WAS, THIS IS MY APPROACH, TO JUST TRYING TO PRESENT SOMETHING FOR YOU TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME IDEA OF PERHAPS WHAT COULD BE COMING, BUT NO, IT'S NOT FINALIZED. SO THIS MAP IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT AN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE, NO. NO, THIS WOULD NOT BE AN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE. THIS NOW, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD CHOOSE ONE, BUT IT WOULD LIKELY COST, MORE. RIGHT NOW, THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE FOR WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS MICROTRANSIT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE A, I GUESS, A BAND TYPE VEHICLE LIKE SOME OF THE MODERN VEHICLES THAT ARE FOR, FOR HANDICAPPED TRANSPORTATION. IS WHAT I ENVISION. AND YOU CAN GO TO THEIR WEBSITE. THEY WOULD HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OUT THERE, BUT IT'S, KIND OF A, YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT. IT WOULD BE LIKE THE GEORGIA TECH BE. YEAH, YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHO WOULD? SO THE CITY WOULD ADMINISTER OR THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD CONTRACT OUT A THIRD PARTY TO SERVICE A SHUTTLE BETWEEN THESE, THESE PROPOSED LOCATIONS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND DID YOU SAY THE FUNDING HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED OR THEY'RE TRYING TO 
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GET FUNDING? NO, THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE BASED ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT THEY DID IN 2019. AND SO NOW THEY'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT TO WHERE THEY'RE READY TO ISSUE AN RFP AND, THE EFFORT IS TO HAVE THIS IMPLEMENTED AND ACTUALLY WORKING FIRST QUARTER NEXT YEAR, 2025. 
          AND IT'S A TWO YEAR PILOT PROGRAM AFTER THAT, I SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME FUNDING NECESSARY TO KEEP IT GOING. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. THE, SO IT WOULD BE THE ASK WOULD BE FOR THIS TO BE THE DRAFT MAP FOR THE MICROTRANSIT OPTION, WHICH IS PUBLIC UBER AND AS WELL AS THE AUTONOMOUS SHUTTLE, MOBILITY STRATEGY THAT THEY'RE EXPLORING. THERE IS FUNDING FOR THE $2.6 MILLION THAT THE ATL REGIONAL NETWORK HAS PROVIDED, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION. I'M GETTING THE WORDS MIXED UP, BUT THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED FOR MICROTRANSIT, IT'S CALLED THE. ATLANTA REGIONAL TRANSIT LINK AUTHORITY. THEY PROVIDE THE $2.6 MILLION FOR THE MICROTRANSIT OPTION, AND THEN THE AUTONOMOUS SHUTTLE OPTION. THEY THE CITY HAS NOT SECURED FUNDING FOR THAT. BUT THIS IS THIS DRAFT MAP WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD SHARE WITH WHATEVER VENDOR TO COME BACK TO US TO SHARE WHAT THE POTENTIAL ROUTES AND COSTS MIGHT BE. AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO LEVERAGE, OTHER PARTNERS. THAT ARE WITHIN THIS FOOTPRINT TO POTENTIALLY FUND THAT. BUT IT'S TO MOBILITY STRATEGIES, ELECTRIC MOBILITY STRATEGIES THAT THIS, DRAFT MAP WOULD BE USED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO GET PROPOSALS FROM COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER AND COUNCILMEMBER, YES. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS MAP TOGETHER, ONE AREA THAT KIND OF JUMPED OUT TO ME, IS THE CLEVELAND AVENUE, OVER THE CLEVELAND AVENUE, STREET, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT ON THERE. THERE'S NOT THAT MANY I KNOW, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HELP ACTIVATE THAT AREA. OKAY, SURE. I JUST I'M JUST THROWING THAT AS AN IDEA OUT. YES, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE, WHERE THE HOTELS ARE ALSO LOCATED WITHIN, BOTH CITY LIMIT. AND, BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TRAVELERS COMING IN, CHECKING IN, CHECKING OUT, WHO WOULD LOOK FOR SERVICE. AND OF COURSE, YOU WOULD HAVE, RESIDENTS AS WELL AS EMPLOYEES THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN POINTS. AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST STAB AT IT, I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH THE, THE CONSULTANT IN, IN APRIL, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE, THE, THE JOINT INITIATIVE OF CONNECTIVITY, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE SYLVAN ROAD SITE. SO, HAVING THAT SITE KIND OF SHARED WITH RESPECT TO THE PLANNED, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THERE MADE A LOT OF SENSE. BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN ADD MORE STATIONS, TO YOUR LIKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE MAYBE MY FIRST QUESTION, I THINK SORT OF ANSWERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER'S QUESTION. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE VEHICLES THEMSELVES LOOK LIKE, BUT POTENTIALLY SORT OF LIKE THOSE AMAZON DELIVERY VEHICLES. YES, YES, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINE. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. AND SECOND QUESTION, YOU WERE REFERRING TO STATIONS. ARE THESE GOING TO BE PHYSICAL TRANSIT BUILDINGS. THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OR THAT STOPS. THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I SUSPECT THAT THEY WOULD BE LIKE SOME OF YOUR YOUR MODEST STOPS. OR IT COULD BE A MORE ELABORATE TYPE STATION, I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT. THAT QUESTION. OKAY FAIR ENOUGH. AND THEN FINAL QUESTION IS THE CONCEPT HERE THAT PEOPLE PAY A FEE FOR THE SERVICE AND THEN PERHAPS EVENTUALLY IT STARTS TO PAY FOR ITSELF? OR IS THIS A FREE I THINK IT'S FOR TWO YEARS. IT WILL BE FREE, AND THEN THERE 
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WOULD BE A COST, A NOMINAL COST. BUT, IT REALLY IS TO, TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, TO MAKE ACCESS TO TRANSIT MOBILITY. MORE ATTAINABLE, AND SUSTAINABLE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE, I GUESS THE, THE PRICE POINT. THANK YOU. SURE I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS, SO I THINK A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT ELECTRIC MOBILITY MAP FOR THE ATL AIRPORT KIDS MICRO TRANSIT AND AUTONOMOUS SHUTTLE. SO MOVED. SECOND, THE MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. DO YOU KNOW, DID HE SHARE THE DATE THAT HE'S MEETING THIS WEEK. HE SAID IT WAS LIKE WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY. THE DARRYL MCDOWELL I'M ASSUMING YOU TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT THIS, YES, MA'AM, I THERE'S A SHIFT COMMUNITY MEETING. I THINK ON THE 23RD, WHICH WOULD GIVE, HE SAID THERE WAS A MEETING THIS WEEK THAT'S WHY, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH HIM. YEAH BECAUSE I TALKED WITH HIM LAST WEEK, SO I. YEAH, I HADN'T TALKED WITH HIM THIS WEEK, BUT. YEAH, IF WE COULD JUST GET IT TO HIM BECAUSE HE SAID THERE WAS A MEETING EITHER WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY THIS WEEK, HE WASN'T SURE IF THE DATE WAS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL VENDORS. I UNDERSTAND I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH HIM ON THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I THINK MISS ECHEVARRIA HAS UPDATED INFORMATION, AND HAS PROVIDED A COUPLE SLIDES WITH IT TO US THAT SHE'LL GO OVER AGAIN THIS IS ONE FOR POTENTIAL ACTION ON MOTION TO APPOINT DDA. THE DDA MEMBERS, AS THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MISS ECHEVARRIA. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT, SO AT THE LAST MEETING, I DID, OMIT THE NAMES OF THE DDA BOARD, SO DEFINITELY WANTED TO PUT THIS DOWN TO MAKE SURE WE HAD EVERYONE, CORRECTLY LABELED. OF COURSE, THERE IS NO RESUME. SO WE HAD TO DEFINITELY SEND EMAILS AND DO PHONE INTERVIEWS WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THE 50% REQUIREMENT WITH A BUILDER, DEVELOPER, AND OR A PERSON IN REAL ESTATE. SO THERE ARE CURRENTLY, SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. THAT'S JEREMY FARMER, CARL SIMEON R, SARAH CARSON, JAMES RICHARD DILLARD, SONYA BOOKER, HENRY ODELL, MARK HARDY, THEY HAVE AT THEY AT THEIR LAST MEETING AGREED TO BE THE IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          BUT AT THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE SHY OF THAT 50%. WE CONTACTED DOUGLAS JONES, THE CHAIRPERSON OF EAST POINT HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND HE AGREED TO SERVE. SO AT THIS, MY REQUEST TONIGHT IS FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO VOTE ON THE EIGHT MEMBER COMMITTEE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE CITY. YEAH, I THOUGHT MR. JONES WAS ALREADY A MEMBER OF THE DDA. NO COUNCIL MEMBER MARK ROGERS APPOINTED AN, THE JEREMY FARMER IS A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY AND DEVELOPER. 
          HE'S DEVELOPING SOME PROPERTIES IN, SOUTH FULTON, RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO THAT THAT'S GOOD. THAT MEANS WE HAVE OVER 50%, SO PER DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO DEVELOP THE COMMITTEE AND PUSH FORWARD. YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. YES SO, THE APPOINTEE FOR THE WARD, BCC. SO, SHE'S NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS ANYMORE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S A VACANCY IN THE WARD AT LARGE SEAT, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, REMOVE HER AND APPOINT SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE THESE ARE JOINT APPOINTMENTS, BUT SHE HAS TOLD ME THAT SHE'S NOT ABLE TO COME TO THE MEETINGS ANYMORE, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HER ABSENCE. THROW QUORUM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, SHE COULD RESIGN. OKAY, BUT THEN, LIKE, HOW CAN AM I ABLE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY WITHOUT A WARD MATE? I THINK THAT'S THE, CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION. THESE 
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APPOINTMENTS ARE FOR THE DDA. I THINK THEY'RE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THEY'RE JOINT AND IT'S FOR FOUR YEARS. AND SO THEY'RE ONE OF TWO OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A VACANCY. AND AT THE TIME THAT THIS IF SHE RESIGNS A VACANCY OCCURS WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD APPOINT ALONE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A WARD BE AT LARGE PERSON RIGHT NOW, OR IF NOT, THEN WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTIO. BUT IF SHE'S NOT ATTENDING, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND. THAT IS HER OPTION TO RESIGN. OKAY AND I WOULD BE ABLE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY WITHOUT A WARD MATE WITHOUT, SINCE IT'S A JOINT APPOINTMENT. I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY ON THE DDA? 778077 YES. DOUGLAS JONES IS, PART OF THE EAST POINT HOUSING AUTHORITY. YEAH, HE'S THE CHAIR. SO AGAIN, THE GOAL HERE IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ACCORDING TO DCA, WE HAVE TO HAVE 50%. AND THE REASON BEING THERE'S AN ONGOING LAWSUIT WHERE IMPACT FEES WERE DEVELOPED AND THEY DID NOT MEET THAT CRITERIA. SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE 50% MEETING THE REAL ESTATE BUILDER OR DEVELOPER CRITERIA, THEN THE COMMITTEE CAN STILL PROCEED. HAVE MEETINGS UNTIL TAKE A VOTES ON ACTIONS AND OR DECIDE WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS. SO THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE 50% AND SO WITH, JARED OUT OF THE SEVEN, JEREMY FARMER, CARL SIMEON, RICHARD DILLARD AND SONIA BOOKER, THAT'S FOUR OUT OF THE SEVEN. SO THAT'S 50%. PLUS THE DOUG JONES WOULD BE FIVE. THE QUESTION IS, SARAH CARSON JAMES IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, MENTIONED SHE DOESN'T WANT THAT TO IMPACT QUORUM. BUT THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO WORK BEING AT LARGE. COUNCIL MEMBER RIGHT NOW, THAT SEAT IS VACANT. AND THESE ARE JOINT APPOINTMENTS. IF MISS CARSON JAMES SHOULD RESIGN, WOULD COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER AS THE ONLY WARD BE REPRESENTATIVE RIGHT NOW, FROM A JOINT APPOINTMENT PERSPECTIVE, BE ABLE TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT ALONE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION TO MAKE IT WITH THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. SO WHEN WE COUNT, SEVEN IS THE SEVEN, INCLUDING MISS CARSON JAMES? YES, YES. SO SHE WOULD NEED TO RESIGN RIGHT BEFORE THERE CAN BE A SUBSEQUENT APPOINTMENT, BECAUSE THE MAX IS SEVEN. SO WELL, NO, THIS IS A DIFFERENT COMMITTEE. SO THIS IS THE IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          WE'RE JUST USING MEMBERS OF THE DDA TO BE ABLE TO SERVE. BUT WHAT IS SHE RESIGNING FROM THE DDA. SO I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. SO SHE RESIGNS FROM THE DDA, RIGHT? SHE WOULDN'T BE ON THE IMPACT. CORRECT THE MAX NUMBER ON THE DDA IS SEVEN PER CORRECT. SO SHE WOULD NEED TO RESIGN FIRST FOR IT TO TRIGGER COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER'S APPOINTMENT, ALBEIT THERE IS NOT A AT LARGE BOARD BE REPRESENTATIVE. SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER SHE CAN MAKE THE APPOINTMENT ALONE. IF MISS CARSON JAMES RESIGNS FROM THE DDA. CORRECT? OKAY, I GOT A SIDE QUESTION FIRST. BEFORE I ANSWER THAT. IF MISS CARSON JAMES RESIGNS FROM THE DDA, DOES THAT IMPACT THE IMPACT FEE? WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH, CORRECT? OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO THE LAW DOES. THE STATE LAW DOES NOT TALK ABOUT JOINT APPOINTMENTS THAT WILL LIKELY BE IN OUR LOCAL LAW. 
          RIGHT, AND I AM LOOKING FOR THE CODE SECTION THAT AUTHORIZES AND IT MAY BE A RESOLUTION THAT I NEED TO LOCATE, BUT I'LL HAVE TO GET FROM THE CLERK. WHEN YOU GUYS CREATE IT, RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CODIFIED WHEN Y'ALL CREATED THE DDA. THAT WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED VACANCIES. HOW TO DO THE VACANCIES FOR THE JOINT APPOINTMENT. OKAY. AND IF IT'S NOT CODIFIED, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND IT TONIGHT ON MUNICODE, AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR I'M ON PAGE FIVE DOING THE SEARCH. SO FAR IT DOES NOT APPEAR. YEAH, WE IT WAS CREATED THEN. IT WAS INACTIVE AND THEN WE REACTIVATED IT BACK AROUND 2014 OR 15 OR SOMETHING. I HAVE 
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THE REACTIVATION. YOU HAVE THAT RESOLUTION. I DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. I CAN SEND YOU THE REACTIVATION RESOLUTION. YEAH, THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE APPOINTMENT CAN BE DONE WITH AN AT LARGE VACANCY, BUT STATE LAW DOESN'T SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE HOW YOU APPOINT IS YOUR YOUR LOCAL DECISION. SO ONCE I GOT THE ACTIVATION ORDINANCE, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY I CAN I CAN SEND YOU THE REACTIVATION, NOT THE INITIAL ACTIVATION, BUT I'LL SEND YOU WHAT I HAVE, OKAY. AND SO, COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. 
          OKAY, I THINK THE ASK IS ACTUALLY. TO. IS IT APPOINT BY NAME, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE APPOINTED TO? HER JOB, SHE SHE SHE GOT A DIFFERENT JOB. AND SO SHE LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE IT TO THE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S TOO FAR AWAY. SO I WONDER IF THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO APPOINT BY NAME THE PEOPLE. AND THEN WE COULD. YEAH. NOT INCLUDE MISS CARSON JAMES SO THAT IF SHE'S ALREADY CONCERNED ABOUT DDA DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT RIGHT. LIKE WOULD BE MORE AND THAT WOULD BE SEVEN PEOPLE. AND OF THOSE SEVEN, FIVE WOULD HAVE REAL ESTATE EXPERIENCE. PERFECT. SO OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU HAD A MOTION TO APPOINT. I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. MISS F F YEAH, YEAH I GOTCHA. OKAY. DID YOU WHEN YOU, SELECTED THEM, DID YOU REACH OUT TO ALL OF THEM? OH, SO I DIDN'T SELECT ANYONE? NO. NOT SELECT I MEAN, DID YOU WERE ALL OF THEM CONTACTED? YES. EVEN. SARAH CARSON EVERYBODY. YES AND SHE AGREED TO DO IT? YES. AT THAT TIME, YES. BUT SOMETHING MAY HAVE CHANGED, THIS WILL BE MY THIRD MEETING. SO THEN, IF SHE AGREED TO DO IT, DID SHE ATTEND THE MEETING? LIKE, HOW DID YOU CONTACT. YES. OH, THEY THEY TOOK A VOTE. SO SHE THEY HAD A QUORUM. SHE WAS AT THE MEETING? YES. I BELIEVE SO. YES. SO SHE HASN'T BEEN TO THE MEETING? NO, BECAUSE I KNOW. OKAY. SO THAT DAY THEY HAD A QUORUM. I DON'T HAVE THE MINUTES, BUT I CAN GET THEM FROM RHONDA APPLEBY JUST TO MAKE FOR CERTAIN. BUT THE DDA AS A WHOLE HAD A QUORUM AND AGREED TO SERVE AS THE IMPACT FEE COMMITTEE. SO AGAIN, EVEN IF SHE'S NOT, IT'S, NOT TO BE DISMISSIVE. SHE'S A CITIZEN. THE GOAL HERE IS WE HAVE ENOUGH CITIZEN AND BUSINESS OWNERS. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE THREE CRITERIA. SO IT IF YOU DON'T TAKE ACTION TODAY, I WOULD SAY THIS. WE SCHEDULED THIS SO THAT THE FIRST MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BEGINS IN OCTOBER. SO JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU CAN'T DECIDE TODAY, THIS WILL PUSH US BACK FURTHER, AND WE'RE TRYING TO TIME THIS. RIGHT. SO THAT BUDGET TIME AND THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE RECOMMENDATION, IS BROUGHT TO YOU, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS FOR US TO DEVELOP EVERYTHING. SO. I MEAN, SHE LISA, MY COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS IS NEXT. SO THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE THEN WE MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE, IF SHE WAS AT THE MEETING AND SHE WAS CONTACTED, THEN IT'S CLEAR THAT SHE AGREED TO IT. IF ANYTHING CHANGES, SHE WOULD UNTIL WE ACTUALLY UNTIL SHE ACTUALLY RESIGNS. SHE'S ACTUALLY A SITTING PERSON. YOU DON'T WANT TO NOT OMIT. YOU DON'T WANT TO OMIT HER BECAUSE TECHNICALLY SHE HAS NOT RESIGNED AND SAID THAT SHE'S LEAVING. 
          SHE'S STILL AS WE KNOW, SHE'S STILL SITTING ON THE BOARD. AND IF SHE RESIGNED, SHE COULD RESIGN FROM BOTH. EXACTLY I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, SHE YOU CAN HAVE A QUORUM WITHOUT EVERYBODY PRESENT. RIGHT. I'M SORRY. YOU CAN HAVE A QUORUM WITHOUT EVERYBODY PRESENT. CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. BUT JUST WHEN THEY COME TO DECIDE ON WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS, THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE 50% MEETING THAT CRITERIA. YEAH. AND SO AGAIN, SHE'S SHE'S A CITIZEN 
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AGAIN. WE SEND EMAILS OUT TO EVERYONE. THIS IS HOW WE KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE A CITIZEN DEVELOPER. WE ASK THEM AT THAT TIME SHE DID NOT INDICATE AN EMAIL THAT SHE WASN'T. BUT YOU CAN ADOPT THIS AS IS. AND BUT JUST KNOW IF WE DON'T HAVE A VOTE TO TAKE ACTION, WE'LL PUSH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BACK. PROBABLY A MONTH OR TWO. OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS, APPOINT THE FOLLOWING, PEOPLE TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THOSE NAMES ARE JEREMY FARMER, CARL SIMEON ARE SIERRA CARSON, JAMES RICHARD DILLARD, SONYA BOOKER, HENRY ADELAIDE, MARK HARDY AND DOUGLAS JONES. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS DISCUSSION ON PERMANENT CITY MANAGERS. SO IN APRIL OF 2024, PRIOR TO THAT WE ENGAGED DEVELOPMENTAL ASSOCIATES TO BE THE COMPANY TO DO OUR NATIONAL SEARCH IN APRIL OF 2024, WE RELEASED THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, AND A STAFF SURVEY TO GET INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE JOB AD, THAT WAS RELEASED IN APRIL AND WENT THROUGH MAY, AFTER THAT, WE HAD I SENT AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL ON APRIL 22ND INDICATING, THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND THAT AT THAT TIME THEY WERE ASKING US TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE JOB AD AS WELL AS, PROVIDE DATES FOR THE DIFFERENT STEPS WITHIN THE SEARCH PROCESS. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I SENT THAT EMAIL TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH THE DATES AND THE ADS AND ASKED FOR FEEDBACK BASED ON THE FEEDBACK, THE DATES SELECTED, OR THE NEXT STEPS INCLUDED, RELEASING THE APPLICATION TO WHICH WE HAD, 23 PEOPLE APPLY FROM TEN DIFFERENT STATES, PLUS THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. WE HAD GEORGIA, IOWA, PEOPLE FROM GEORGIA, IOWA, FLORIDA, ILLINOIS, CALIFORNIA, NORTH CAROLINA, VIRGINIA, MICHIGAN, ARIZONA, NEW AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND AGAIN INCLUDING THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, ON MAY 16TH, WE MET FOR THE HAD A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO CONDUCT THE PRIMARY SCREENING OF THE INITIAL APPLICATIONS. APPLICANTS AGAIN, 23 TOTAL, IT INCLUDED APPLICATIONS, RESUME AND COVER LETTERS. WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT EMPLOYER AND EMPLOYERS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE HIGHEST DEGREE CITY AND ANY MEDIA INFORMATION ON THEM. AFTER THAT MEETING OR DURING THAT MEETING. ON MAY 16TH, WE THEN SELECTED 13 CANDIDATES TO PROCEED TO THE SECONDARY SCREENING, WHICH WAS CONDUCTED ON JUNE. THE MEETING WAS CONDUCTED ON JUNE 3RD. WHAT DID THE COMPANY DID WAS CONDUCT PHONE INTERVIEWS AND HAVE THOSE 13 APPLICANTS COMPLETE SURVEYS AND SO AT THE JUNE 3RD MEETING, WE HAD THE SECONDARY SCREENING TO GO THROUGH THE RESULTS FROM THE PHONE INTERVIEWS AND SURVEYS AND FROM THAT, THOSE 13 APPLICANTS, FOR ACTUALLY WITHDREW. AND SO THAT LEFT NINE. AND FROM THE NINE WE SELECTED FIVE APPLICANTS TO PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH WAS A VIRTUAL INTERVIEW OF FINALISTS THROUGH A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. THE JUNE 3RD WAS A REGULAR MEETING. JUNE 18TH WAS ANOTHER SPECIAL CALL MEETING, TO REVIEW TO INTERVIEW THE TOP THREE FINALISTS. WE SELECTED FIVE AND THEN I THINK ONE DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER, ONE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD AS WELL. SO WE ENDED UP WITH THREE, FINALISTS TO INTERVIEW VIRTUALLY. WE DID THAT ON JUNE 18TH, AND AFTER THE MEETING, DURING THE, THAT MEETING AT THE END, WE SELECTED TWO FINALISTS TO COME TO EAST POINT, AND THEY CAME ON JULY 8TH FOR AN IN PERSON MEETING WITH COUNCIL, WE HAD ONE APPLICANT IN THE MORNING AND THEN, STARTED WITH BREAKFAST. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND, COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER AND MYSELF ATTENDED THAT AFTER 
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THE BREAKFAST, WE DID A TOUR OF THIS, PROVIDED A TOUR OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, SOME KEY AREAS, AND THEN WE HAD THE CANDIDATE PRESENT A 90 DAY PLAN. TO US, OR A OVERVIEW OF A 90 DAY PLAN, THEN THE SECOND APPLICANT, STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE 90 DAY PLAN, AND THEN, LUNCH WITH MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER, ZIEGLER COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, AND COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS, FOLLOWED BY A TOUR OF THE CITY, THAT HAPPENED ON JULY 8TH, THE FINALIST EXERCISES. SO THOSE THOSE TOP THREE FINALISTS, THEY COMPLETED A WRITTEN EXERCISE. THEY COMPLETED A COACHING ROLE PLAY EXERCISE. THEY COMPLETED A MEETING EXERCISE AS WELL AS A PRESENTATION EXERCISE. ALL OF THE SCORES FROM THOSE EXERCISES WAS COMPILED AND SHARED WITH US, AT THE, JUNE 18TH MEETING. PRIOR TO THEIR INTERVIEWS, WE HAD SEPARATE INTERVIEWS FOR EACH ONE OF THEM. THEY ALSO COMPLETED AN EMOTIONAL QUOTIENT INVENTORY THAT LOOKED AT SELF-PERCEPTION, SELF-EXPRESSION, INTERPERSONAL DECISION MAKING, AND STRESS MANAGEMENT. SO IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS, THAT COST OVER $30,000. $32,494.43 TOTAL. AND YET WE ARE STILL IN A POSITION WITH AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER, AND, HAVE NOT MADE A DECISION ON THE PERMANENT CITY MANAGER. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMUNITY HAVE THIS INFORMATION. SO WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE ALSO PLACE THIS ON AS A PRESENTATION ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, AS THAT WILL BE A RECORDED MEETING, THAT PEOPLE COULD GO BACK TO FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE THOROUGH PROCESS THAT WE CONDUCTED AND THAT, DEVELOPMENTAL ASSOCIATES LED US THROUGH ON A NATIONAL SEARCH FOR A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER. I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE A LOT OF COUNCIL HAVE, AS WELL AS TO WHERE ARE WE IN THE PROCESS, WHAT HAPPENED? AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS INFORMATION BE SHARED AND SO, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, WE DO HAVE AND WE WILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM, REGARDING THIS POSITION AS WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES, I DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO SAY. AND I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT YOU KNOW, $32,494.43 WENT INTO THIS. I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, AS WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE PEOPLE CALL ME LAST WEEK AND WANTED TO KNOW WHERE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, CONSTITUENTS LOOK AT WHO WAS IN THE ROOM FOR THIS PROCESS, SOME OF US WERE CONSISTENT IN THE PROCESS, AND SOME OF US DIDN'T EVEN ATTEND THE PROCESS FOR OR THE PROCESSES FOR HIRING, A CITY MANAGER AND TO GET ALL THE WAY TO THE POINT OF HIRING A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER, AND THEN HAVE YOUR COLLEAGUES JUST SAY, OR SOME COLLEAGUES SAY, OH, NO, LET'S LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. 
          AFTER WE PUT FORTH SO MUCH EFFORT AND DID A NATIONAL SEARCH, A NATIONAL, A NATIONAL SEARCH, OUR TIME AND ENERGY WAS INVESTED AND WE ARE STILL AT LOOKING INTO HIRING A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER. SO I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THIS BEING ON RECORD AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. I ALSO MEANT TO ADD THAT THE CURRENT INTERIM CITY MANAGER DID NOT APPLY OR GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MR. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. YEAH, I ALSO GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. SO I CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT ALONE, I JUST TWO THINGS I WANT TO ADD. I MEAN, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY THE DEVELOPMENTAL ASSOCIATES PROCESS, IT WAS VERY INTENSIVE. 
          AND THEY HAD SOME EXERCISES AND ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE CANDIDATES THAT I, I FOUND REALLY QUITE 
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IMPRESSIVE, AND THEN JUST ONE SMALL POINT, THE JULY 8TH, I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS SPECIAL CALLED. I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT FROM FOR ME. I HAD TO TAKE THAT DAY OFF FROM THE JOB THAT PAYS FOR MY MORTGAGE. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS WE PUT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS, AND A LOT OF EFFORT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POIN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE SAME MESSAGE ON, SAME INFORMATION ON MONDAY DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN A WAY THAT IT CAN BE ACCESSED AT ANY POINT, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION. BUT I THINK, THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK AND TIME PUT INTO THIS, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISION. I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY, IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS. IT INCLUDED A LOT OF ASSESSMENT AND DATA AND INFORMATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO USE TO ASSESS THE CANDIDATES AGAIN, WHO WERE FROM TEN DIFFERENT STATES AND PLUS THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOING A NATIONAL SEARCH, I THINK, AGAIN, THAT THERE WERE STATES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, OR APPLICANTS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, I SHOULD SAY, FROM STATES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND SO, WHEN WE GET TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGAIN, THERE WILL BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER POSITION AS WELL. THIS EVENING, SEEING NO OTHER LIGHTS, WE AGAIN, 23 AND 24, COUNCIL MEMBER ATTORNEY. OH, THAT WAS FROM, 2324 CAN GO TO THE AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS 2728 AND 31. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAD ABOUT THE, 27, 28 AND 31, WHEN WE GO ON AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES AN EMERGENCY, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT, I MEAN, LIKE 27 IS FAILING ROADWAY CONDITIONS ON PINEY WOOD. I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE GRAVEL AND STUFF THAT MAY BE BROKEN UP, BUT WHAT WHAT WHAT TRULY CONSTITUTES, I UNDERSTAND, 29 AND 30 WHERE HE HAD EMERGENCY WATER MAIN BREAKS WHERE YOU HAD ACTUAL BREAKS OR SOMETHING. BUT IS THERE SOME SORT OF PARAMETERS THAT WE USE TO GAUGE WHAT'S CONSIDERED EMERGENCY AND WHAT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY? BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THESE ITEMS THAT WILL POP UP ON HERE, BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT CAN GO INTO THE REGULAR DAY TO DAY, OR IS IT? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, I DON'T DUE TO FAILING ROADWAY CONDITIONS. THAT DEFINITELY SOUNDS MORE LIKE AN EMERGENCY. OTHER THAN LIKE GOING WITH VENDORS THAT. RIGHT, OTHER PEOPLE OFFER THE SAME SERVICES. SO, THIS IS WATER AND SEWER, I BELIEVE MISS ECHEVARRIA HAS LEFT. BUT IF YOU WANT, WE CAN PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE. BUT DO IT BECAUSE FAILING ROADWAY CONDITIONS ON PINEWOOD DRIVE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, SHE MIGHT HAVE SOME PICTURES TO SHOW THE CONDITION, BUT IF THE ROADWAY IS FAILING AND WE KNOW ABOUT IT AND SOMEBODY GETS HURT ON IT, I THINK THIS IS ALSO MAYBE ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS IS MITIGATING OR REDUCING RISK OR LIABILITY TO THE CITY, BUT THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR HER, AND THEY MIGHT HAVE MORE INFORMATION IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA INSTEAD OF CONSENT. AND THAT WAS A QUESTION PRETTY MUCH FOR ALL OF THOSE. I MEAN, I UNDERSTOOD I WAS GOOD WITH 29 AND 30 BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE ACTUAL BREAKS. THERE WAS A BREAK IN THE SEWER MAIN LINE, THE OTHER ONE WAS, LET ME PUT MY GLASSES ON. I'M SORRY, WATER MAIN BREAK WITH, EIGHT INCH LINE. SO, I MEAN, BREAKS. YEAH AND WE ALSO HAVE A INTERIM CITY MANAGER HERE WHO, HAD WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE ANY OF THIS OR SUPERVISE STAFF. MISS ECHEVARRIA, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD ABOUT THESE EMERGENCIES THAT I'M SURE WENT THROUGH THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER. GO AHEAD. 
          27, 28 AND 31. DO YOU HAVE YOUR AGENDA? I'LL START WITH 27. YES. 27 IS THE, EMERGENCY ROADWAY REPAIR DUE TO FAILING ROADWAY CONDITIONS ON PINEY WOOD DRIVE. OKAY. SO PINEY WOOD DRIVE WAS AN EMERGENCY SEWER REPAIR, WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING? WE ARE SURVEYING OUR SEWER LINES, WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING? THE ROADS STARTED SINKING. SO THAT ACTUALLY WAS A SEWER REPAIR. WE DAMAGED THE ROAD SO BAD THAT IT ACTUALLY HAD TO BE REPAVED. OKAY NOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S AN 
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EMERGENCY, WE KNOW THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN POOR CONDITION. IT'S EXCEEDED ITS LIFE CAPACITY. SO ANYTIME THAT I DO AN EMERGENCY, I HAVE PICTURES, I HAVE CCTV TO BACK UP EVERYTHING THAT I NEED. WE ALSO COMPLETE EMERGENCY FORMS. SO IT IS I WOULD SAY NOW WE'RE HAVING MORE SEWER ISSUES THAN WATER AT THIS POINT IN TIME. YEAH, THAT WAS AND THAT WAS THE THING I JUST DIDN'T KNOW. AND WHAT MADE IT DIFFICULT? THE SOILS WERE A COMBINATION OF SAND AND CLAY. SO OF COURSE WHEN WE DUG DOWN AND IT WAS RAINING, THE IT JUST WAS GIVING AWAY. THE ROAD WAS GIVING AWAY AND IT WASN'T GIVING THE SEWER LINE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO INSTALL ENOUGH, STABILITY. SO THAT'S WHAT MADE PINEY WOOD LANE A VERY COMPLICATED SEWER LINE REPAIR PROJECT. ANY OBJECTION TO 27 GOING ON? CONSENT? NO. ALL RIGHT. 28. COUNCIL MEMBER, COMMENTS. THIS IS THE EMERGENCY SLUDGE BUILD UP DUE TO THE CITY OF ATLANTA NO LONGER BEING ABLE TO PROCESS SLUDGE FROM THE CITY OF EAST POINT, THE SLUDGE BUILDUP REMOVAL IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT WAS ISSUED TO EGLE DYNAMIC SOLUTIONS. SO JUST AGAIN AND LIKE I SAID, MY QUESTION WAS SO GENERAL JUST WHAT DETERMINES WHAT WHAT WHAT MAKES SOMETHING AN EMERGENCY ITEM? BECAUSE LIKE EVEN FOR LIKE 27, IT WAS STUFF THE ROADWAY. I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A RESULT OF A SEWER FAILURE. YES. SEWER FAILURE. AND WITH THE SLUDGE BUILDUP, I MEAN, IS IT A METER OR SOMETHING THAT YOU READ? I DON'T KNOW WHAT. 
          WHAT? SO. OKAY, I'M TRYING TO NOT TO SCIENCE THIS. SO IN THE WATER TREATMENT PROCESS, IT'S SEVERAL PROCESSES AND THE FIRST THING THAT WE DO INITIALLY WITH WATER TREATMENT IS WE BIND PARTICLES TOGETHER. SO THAT'S COAGULATION. AND WHAT WE'RE BONDING ARE PARTICLES THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY SEE AND THAT WE CAN'T SEE. THE NEXT PROCESS IS FLOCCULATION. AND SO ALL OF CLAY, SAND ALGAE, ANY TYPE OF ORGANIC ORGANISMS THAT ARE UNHEALTHY, IT BEGINS THE FILTRATION AND DISINFECTION AND THE SEDIMENTATION PROCESS. WHAT THAT LEAVES IS WHAT I CALL OUR SEMI-SOLIDS. AND THAT SLUDGE. NOW WE HAVE A BELT PRESS AND MEANING WE HAVE TO DE-WATER IT BEFORE WE CAN TAKE IT TO A LANDFILL. THE PROBLEM IS, THE BELT PRESS FAILED THREE TIMES. 
          AND WE ARE SO BACKLOGGED THAT WE RAN IT FOR TWO WEEKS STRAIGHT AND WE BURNT OUT THE EXISTING BELT PRESS. SO WE ACTUALLY DON'T PRODUCE AS MUCH SLUDGE. WE PROBABLY DO PROBABLY 12 ROLL OFFS A YEAR. ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO DRY THAT MATERIAL. BUT THE NEW FEDERAL REGULATIONS NOW WHEN WE AUDIT IT, WE'RE REQUIRED TO MINIMIZE OUR CONTRIBUTION OR OUR FOOTPRINT TO LANDFILLS. SO THAT SMALL AMOUNT THAT ATLANTA WAS TAKING FROM US ONCE WE DRIED IT OUT, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT ANYMORE BECAUSE WE GOT BACKLOGGED. OKAY. AND CAN I ASK ABOUT THE LAST 1 IN 28, 1 IN 6. 
          NO COUNCILMAN. MY QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. IT'S MORE OR LESS NOT A QUESTION, BUT IT'S MORE OR LESS A COMPLIMENT BECAUSE I'VE WATCHED YOU IN THIS CAPACITY IN OUR WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT, AND YOU ARE THOROUGH. YOU ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A DIRECTOR OF THAT DEPARTMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IT COMES THROUGH EVERY TIME YOU ARE AT THE PODIUM. SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS E, NUMBER 31, COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON EMERGENCY SEWER MAIN AND MANHOLE PLACE. DUE TO THE PARTICULAR STREET NOT HAVING A SEWER MAIN, THE SEWER MAIN AND MANHOLE WILL BE PLACED AT 926 BROOKDALE DRIVE IN THE AMOUNT OF 81 $81,200. THE WORK HAS BEEN ISSUED TO CIVIL WORKS. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. YES. 
          THANK YOU. SO THE QUESTION ON THIS ONE WAS, I KNOW IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THE EMERGENCY THINGS HERE. SO IS THERE EVER, WAS THERE EVER AN ISSUE BEFORE? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE THING ABOUT HAVING THE. YOU MEAN ON BROOKDALE? YES. OH. SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING IS PEOPLE ARE, RENOVATING HOMES ON BROOKDALE, AND THIS IS RIGHT OFF OF SYLVAN ROAD, MAJORITY OF THE STREET IS HAS SEWER, BUT THE SIX HOUSES THAT PEOPLE ARE RENOVATING HAVE NO SEWER LINE. 
          WE APPROVED FOR THE RENOVATION. THEY HAVE THE WATER THEY HAD NOTHING TO TIE INTO. AND AT THIS POINT, THEY ALSO DID NOT HAVE ANY SPACE FOR A SEPTIC TANK. SO WE TOOK THEIR WATER AND SEWER TAP FEES AND NOT JUST EXTENDED THE MAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT I WASN'T PREVENTING THEM FROM MOVING INTO THEIR HOMES. AND SO YEAH, BROOKDALE SHOULD HAVE IT. BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE WHOLE 
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STREET DOES NOT HAVE SEWER. OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD ON THE CONSENT. NO, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. 
          [IV. NEW AGENDA ITEMS (Part 4 of 4)]
NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 37, THE FACADE. THANK YOU, MISS ECHEVARRIA. FACADE GRANT PROGRA. 
          I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO. DAILY FOR THIS CITY. ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU, 37 FACADE GRANT PROGRAM TO BE FUNDED BY OPERA. I THINK TONIGHT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET SOME MORE CRITERIA OR FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS ABOUT WHO WOULD BE CONSIDERED OR WHAT THE APPLICATION CRITERIA WERE GOING TO BE. YES, MA'AM, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE A BRIEF, NUMBER. I JUST ASK YOU HOW LONG IS IT? BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO SAY MONDAY. BUT, HE'S HE'S HERE. I SAID IT. YEAH, I SAID AGENDA. THAT WAS ME. YEAH. SORRY PRESENTATION. HOW MANY SLIDES YOU GOT? IT IS SIX SLIDES, AND I WILL BE AT A CONFERENCE NEXT MONDAY. OKAY. SO LET'S QUICKLY DO IT AND SHARE WITH EVERYBODY. AND TISHA DO WE HAVE THAT ONE, I CAN, EXECUTIVE SESSION, CITY ATTORNEY, YOU HAVE ANY ONE PERSONNEL WANT TO LITIGATION, MR. BROWN? COUNCIL I HAVE ONE PERSONNEL. ANYTHING ELSE? IS IT UP? OKAY. WELL, ATTORNEY WIGGINS HAS ONE, SO THEN IT WILL BE THREE, THREE, ONE ONE. REAL ESTATE, ONE LITIGATION, THREE PERSONNEL. WE GOT IT UP. I CAN I CAN ACTUALLY START WITH MY HARD COPY AND THEN WE'LL CATCH UP. 
          OKAY, GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN. MAYOR COUNCIL. MR. ROGERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. TONIGHT I WILL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER, SHOPPING PLAZA, FACADE. 
          GRANT PRESENTATION, I WILL NOT READ IT OR GO THROUGH WORD FOR WORD, BUT, THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE OF THE THINKING, GRANT PROPOSED PURPOSE AND OBJECTIVE. THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HAS ALLOCATED $350,000 OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OPERA FUNDS, TO A COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER SLASH SHOPPING PLAZA, BEAUTIFICATION AND IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM TO ASSIST OWNERS OF THIS TYPE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITH EXTERIOR REPAIR, ENHANCEMENT, AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. APPLICANTS CAN APPLY FOR UP TO $80,000 WITH A 25% MATCH. FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED ACROSS ALL FOUR WARDS IN THE CITY. THE OBJECTIVE. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO LEVERAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTERS, SHOPPING PLAZAS, CREATE AN ESTHETICALLY PLEASING COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT, PROMOTE CIVIC PRIDE, BENEFIT MULTIPLE TENANTS, ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS BY PARTICIPANTS IN THE AREA. ELIGIBILITY ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS MUST OWN A STRIP CENTER SHOPPING PLAZA THAT HAS 50% OR GREATER OCCUPANCY, IS LESS THAN 80,000FT■!S, AND IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS. ONLY ONE APPLICATION PER PROPERTY OWNER ALLOWED EXAMPLES OF ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. CANOPIES AWNINGS, NEW LIGHTING, BUILDING FACADE REPAIRS, BRICK SIDING, COMMERCIAL STOREFRONT WINDOWS, DOORS, DECORATIVE GATES. DECORATIVE FENCING, PAVING OR STRIPING, PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING. DECORATIVE PLANTERS, ETC. INELIGIBLE APPLICANTS. PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT QUALIFY. PACKAGED STORES. LIQUOR STORES. ADULT ENTERTAINMENT SHOPS. PAWN SHOPS. 
          CONVENIENCE STORES. GAS STATION. RESIDENTIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES. PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OR PLANNED TO BE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS UNDER CONTRACT GOING INTO FORECLOSURE. 
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LISTED FOR SALE OR SOLD IN ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS. ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. ROOFS, HVAC SYSTEMS, PLUMBING SECURITY BARS, SECURITY SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, CONSTRUCTION PERMIT FEES. SECURITY SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS. EQUIPMENT. TELECOM. INTERNET TV, SATELLITE EQUIPMENT, ETC. THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS AND TIMELINE. THE APPLICATION MUST BE COMPLETED AND INCLUDE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS A SIGNED APPLICATION WITH THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT AND PROJECT TIMELINE SIGNED BY PROPERTY OWNER. PROOF OF OWNERSHIP SUCH AS DEED TAX RECORDS, CURRENT TAX BILL. CURRENT PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROJECT, THE PROPERTY TO BE IMPROVED. PROJECTS CAN APPLY FOR UP TO $80,000 IN FUNDING. TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET 80,000. IN GRANT FUNDING 20,000 OR 25% MATCH, MAKING IT A TOTAL OF $100,000. 
          LIST OF CURRENT TENANTS. SQUARE FOOTAGE AND LEASE EXPIRATION DATES AND AVAILABLE VACANT SUITES AND THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE APPLICATION TIMELINE GRANT APPLICATIONS WILL BE OPEN. WILL OPEN ON JANUARY 6TH, 2025, AND MUST HAVE OR MUST BE RECEIVED BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS FEBRUARY 14, 2025. SELECTED APPLICANTS WILL BE NOTIFIED BY THE END OF FEBRUARY 2025. ALL AWARDEES MUST ENTER INTO A SIGNED AGREEMENT AND RECEIVE THE PROJECT. TO RECEIVE THE PROJECT AWARD THE SCORING PROCESS OR CRITERIA. EVALUATIONS AND CRITERIA INCLUD. IF THE OVERALL PROPOSAL ADVANCES THE GOALS OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE GRANT. IF THE PROJECT MEETS ALL ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, DURATION OF OWNERSHIP. CITY OF EASTPOINTE RESIDENCY IS PREFERRED BUT NOT REQUIRED. THE PROJECT TIMELINE, BUDGET AND AMOUNT MATCHED BY THE APPLICANT AND THEN OF COURSE, FUNDING ALLOCATION AS OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE. AND IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP THE PROCESS COMPLIANT AND EFFICIENT, THE ALLOCATED OPERA FUNDS WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE BUSINESS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY THROUGH AN MOU FOR MANAGEMENT AND DISTRIBUTION. THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY WILL THEN HIRE A CONTRACT GRANT ADMINISTRATOR PAID FROM FROM A PORTION OF THE GRANT FUNDING, IN A IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 30,000 OF THE OPERA FUNDS. 
          DISTRIBUTION ONCE AWARDED, THE APPLICANTS MUST SIGN THE AGREEMENT AND BEGIN WORK WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE NOTIFICATION OF THE AWARD, WORK MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN SIX MONTHS FROM THE DAY. WORK STARTS. AWARDEES MUST BE GIVEN AN ADDITIONAL GRACE PERIOD IF NEEDED, DEPENDING ON A REVIEW OF THE PROJECT. ANY PROPERTY THAT RECEIVES THIS AWARD AND THEN LIST THE PROPERTY FOR SALE OR SELLS THE PROPERTY WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF THE COMPLETION OF THEE AWARD AMOUNT, CHECKS WILL BE MADE PAYABLE DIRECTLY TO CONTRACTORS DOING THE WORK. ALL CONTRACTORS MUST BE LICENSED AND INSURED, BONDED AND THEY MUST PULL ANY APPLICABLE PERMITS NEEDED FROM THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. ALL WORK MUST BE SIGNED OFF, FINALIZED WHERE APPLICABLE, BEFORE FINAL PAYMENT SHALL BE MADE AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. COUNCILMAN THANK YOU. MACEO. YES, SIR. I THINK THAT WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE OF OUR CIT, WHY DON'T WE DO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE TARGETED IN THE WAY THAT WE APPROACH THAT FOR EXAMPLE, AND NOT THIS IS NOT FOR US TO DO. BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNE TIME. IF WE WANTED ALL OF OUR STOREFRONTS IN DOWNTOWN TO HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK WITH MONUMENT SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT ON WASHINGTON 
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ROAD, WE HAVE THE EAST POINT PHARMACY, AND WE HAVE THAT TIRE SHOP THERE, AND IT JUST LOOKS HORRIBLE. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY TARGET HOW WE IMPROVE THE CITY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SHOPPING PLAZA ON WASHINGTON ROAD, NEAR THOSE THAT AREA IS LOOKED LIKE THAT SINCE THE 1960S. AND WHAT I'M AFRAID IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE GOING TO BLOW IT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE THOUGHT OUT, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PLANNED SO THAT WE CAN REALLY TAKE THESE FUNDS AND REALLY APPLY THEM IN A WAY THAT IMPROVES THE ESTHETICS OF EAST POINT AND I'M GOING TO THROW A BONE TO WARD A, SHARON SHROPSHIRE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES ON THE LOT, THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING LIKE THAT FOREVER. THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN TARGET THIS AND REALLY IMPROVE THE VALUE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE AREAS. AND I KNOW WE DON'T INCLUDE GAS STATIONS ON THIS SITUATION, BUT IF YOU HAVE A GAS STATION ON THE CORNER OF HEFLIN AND DILLARD AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE IMPROVED, WHY WOULD WE DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THEM? BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DO WHEN IT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UPLIFT THAT CORNER AND SO MY THOUGHT IN SUMMATION IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE IT'S THOUGHT OUT, IT'S PLANNED, AND WHERE WE CAN. I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE AREAS THAT REALLY NEED ATTENTION. AND IF WE AND WE TARGET THE CORRECT WAY WHEN WE LOOK AT CLEVELAND AVENUE NEAR THE HOSPITAL, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE IF WE JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL TO SOME OF THAT, IT CAN UPLIFT THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR. AND IF WE WERE MORE TARGETED WITH OUR APPROACH, THEN I THINK WE'D GET A BETTER RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. COUNCILMAN MARTIN, THANK YOU. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS I LIKE THIS. I LIKE ALL OF IT. BUT I THINK THAT I MY SENTIMENTS WERE WE NEED A TIMELINE AND OUTREACH ACROSS ALL FOUR WARDS. WHEN YOU GOT UP AND GAVE THE PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT ALL FOUR WARDS. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SEE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AS TO HOW WE MAKE THIS CHANGE HAPPEN. SO I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT I NEED A TIMELINE AND A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO OUTREACH. AND WHERE DO WE BEGIN AND WHAT PLAZA, BECAUSE YOU USE THE WARD DE PLAZA THAT CAME UP IN THE BEGINNING PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THAT WHOLE AREA REVAMP, BUT A TIMELINE AND OUTREACH ACROSS ALL FOUR WARDS TO GET PEOPLE ENGAGED THAT WANT TO DO THIS AND WANT TO MAKE OUR PLAZAS, A PLACE OF SHOPPING ENJOYMENT. THANK YOU. I MEAN, WITH THE MAXIMUM GRANT AMOUNT BEING $80,000, THE POTENTIAL IS REALLY ONLY FOR PROJECTS. YES, MA'AM. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIKE ONE PER WARD. IF, I MEAN, OF COURSE, THE AWARDS COULD VARY RIGHT UP TO 80,000, BUT IF YOU FIGURE THE MAX AMOUNT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR PROJECTS WITH A LITTLE CHANGE LEFT OVER. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY MORE INFORMATION THAT WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY SHARED, WE HAVE 1 OR 2 OPTIONS. PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY, FOR COUNCIL VOTE OR MOVE IT TO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. WHAT ARE WHAT'S THE SENTIMENT OF COUNCIL? COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, I WOULD RATHER MOVE IT TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION TO ALLOW, MR. ROGERS MACEO TO COME BACK WITH A TIMELINE IDENTIFYING, WELL, IF COUNCIL. WELL, WE KNOW WHAT WHAT SHOPPING CENTERS ARE IN OUR WARD, FOR ME, IT'S THE WAKEFIELD 
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PLAZA. AND ACROSS THE STREET IS THE FAMILY DOLLAR, PLAZA, WHICH IS IN WARD C, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, PIGGLY WIGGLY PLAZA THAT'S IN WARD EIGHT. WHAT NEEDS ATTENTIO. SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE A COLLABORATION WITH THE OWNERS OF THE PLAZA AS WELL, GETTING THEM INVOLVED IN WHAT THEY CAN DO TO ALSO, FIX UP THE PLAZAS, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THAT THAT NEEDS ATTENTION. AND IF WE ONLY CAN DO ONE FOR ONE PER WARD, THEN WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE ONES THAT REALLY NEED ATTENTION? YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. WELL, JUST A SUGGESTION. I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S SOME THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TLC THAN OTHERS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE YOU AND YOUR TEAM CAN. AND MAYBE YOU GET SUGGESTIONS FROM FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THOSE THAT REALLY NEED WORK, I KNOW WHERE THE WARD WOULD LIKE SAMMY'S CHEESECAKE THAT THAT PLAZA THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE YOU CAN YOU AND YOUR TEAM GO OUT AND YOU SEE THE ONES THAT NEED YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT WORK DONE OR JUST NEED SOME. I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S STILL A PART OF THOSE PLAZA OWNERS BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY FOR THE MOST PART, YOU HAVE THOSE PLAZAS, THOSE AREAS THAT YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT. SO THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THE OWNERS OF THE PLAZAS AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUALS STORES BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO ALL BE UNIFORM. SO JUST A SUGGESTION, MAYBE IF YOU AND YOUR TEAM GO OUT AND YOU SCOUT THOSE AREAS, THE ONES THAT YOU REALLY FEEL THAT REALLY NEED, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT MAY BE WARD 8TH MAY ONLY NEED $50,000 TO DO SOME OF THIS STUFF AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME MORE OF THAT MONEY. I MEAN, IF YOU DIDN'T SPREAD IT OUT EQUALLY, AND IF THE BOTTOM OF THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO BEAUTIFY AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, JUST A SUGGESTION TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE ONES THAT, THAT REALLY NEED, YOU KNOW, SOME WORK DONE TO THEM AND USE, USE THAT APPROACH. OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO JUST PUT OUT TO, TO EVERYBODY AND. YES, MA'AM, THE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF FACTORS THAT I'M WORKING AGAINST, FIRST IS TIME, THE FUNDING HAS TO BE ALLOCATED BY THE END OF THE YEAR. NOT THAT IT HAS BEEN, DISTRIBUTED, BUT IT HAS TO BE ALLOCATED, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE WANTED TO CERTAINLY MAKE IT FAIR. AND JUST ACROSS, THE ENTIRE CITY BY PUTTING THE WORD OUT SO THAT ALL OF THOSE, SHOPPING CENTERS, PLAZAS, THAT HAS THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AS A MAXIMUM WOULD HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT, VISUALLY APPEALING, FOR THE CITIZENS AND TOURISTS AND EVERYONE THAT TRAVELS ALONG THOSE ARTERIES. SO WE WOULD PUT OUT THE, THE, THE ANNOUNCEMENT, FOR APPLICATIONS, PROPOSALS AND WE WOULD RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION, REVIEW IT, SCORE IT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE WOULD SELECT THOSE WINNERS, ONE PER WARD, NOW IT CAN BE A DIFFERENT APPROACH IF YOU WANT. 
          IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME, BASED ON THE TIME THAT YOU KNOW, THIS INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED TO ACTUALLY, DO AS MUCH OF A DEEP DIVE AS I WOULD LIKE TO, BUT, BASED ON WHERE WE ARE, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET IT DONE. OKAY THANK YOU. I YIELD I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TWO THINGS GRATUITY AND OVERPROMISING AND UNDER-DELIVERING, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO SELECT WHICH SHOPPING PLAZAS WE GIVE UP TO $80,000 TO? I'M ASSUMING YOU ALL HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT GRATUITIES, BUT, YOU KNOW, DOING AN ALL CALL WHEN WE ONLY CAN FUND FOR LIKE, I THINK THAT'S A BIT OF HEIGHTENED EXPECTATION. 
          AND THEN LITERALLY, I THINK THERE ALSO MAY BE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THEM GETTING SOME OF THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION NEEDED FROM SOME OF THESE SHOPPING PLAZAS, AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE STRIKE THE BALANCE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING BASED ON THE TIMELINE YOU SHARED, THAT THE APPLICATION WILL OPEN IN JANUAR, IT CLOSED ON FEBRUARY 14TH, AND THEN, DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY END OF FEBRUARY. THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE SPENT BY THE END OF 2025 OR END OF 2026 FOR OPERA. I THINK IT'S 2026, YES. THE, AND I WILL VERIFY AGAIN WITH THE, WITH 
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THE FINANCE MANAGER, THEY HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE CAN SET OUR OWN TIME FRAME WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE SPENDING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX MONTHS, FOR GETTING THE WORK DONE WITHIN THE YEAR ITSEL. AND THE ONLY ONLY TIME THAT IT MIGHT RUN JUST A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THAT TIME FRAME, IT WOULD BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. IF SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT PREVENTED THEM FROM GETTING THE WORK DONE. BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO STRING IT OUT. 
          SO, SIX MONTHS FROM THE DAY THAT THE WORK STARTS AND, THEY SHOULD BE THROUGH WITH IT AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT. YEAH SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE THIS GO TO THE OCTOBER WORK SESSION, I THINK THOSE ARE STILL ISSUES. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT. AND AGAIN, ROLLING OUT A WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR PROJECTS I JUST THINK IS OVERPROMISING AND UNDER-DELIVERING. AND IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEVEL OF SELECTION, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD BE MAKING THAT AS COUNCIL IF WE CAN. BUT TO DO AN ALL CALL AND ONLY AWARD ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, THE MAXIMUM GRANT IS AWARDED, IS ONLY FOR FOUR GRANTS. SO, MADAM MAYOR, I THINK THE CRITERIA THAT, WAS READ WAS VERY LIMITED, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, HAVING A VERY LIMITED CRITERIA SO THAT, YOU WON'T GET HUNDREDS OF APPLICATIONS FROM VARIOUS DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, BUT THAT THE FUNDS WERE TO BE USED WHERE THERE WOULD BE A GREATER IMPACT, THE APPLICATION PROCESS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DISPOSE OF CITY PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO DO A COMPETITIVE BID, TO DISPOSE OF IT. AND SO THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO MEET, SET THE CRITERIA, AND THEN YOU ALLOW PERSONS TO BID ON PURCHASING AND SAY, YOU KNOW, AN ACRE OR TWO ACRES OF CITY PROPERTY. THIS IS HOW YOU GET AROUND A GRATUITY CLAUSE. AND SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR. YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE CRITERIA, ALLOW PEOPLE TO TECHNICALLY BID ON, MEETING THAT CRITERIA. AND WHO IS THE MOST RESPONSIVE, BIDDER, YOU KNOW, WOULD THEN BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS. SO HANDLING LIKE A PROCUREMENT DEALS WITH THE GRATUITY IS JUST, AGAIN. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS, FOR STAYING AND SHARING. OCTOBER WORK SESSION. MADAM CITY CLERK, 
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WE HAVE, ONE REAL ESTATE, THREE PERSONNEL AND ONE LITIGATION MATTER FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          CAN WE GET A MOTION TO RECESS, MADAM MAYOR? YES MOTION TO RECESS FOR ONE REAL ESTATE, THREE PERSONNEL AND ONE LITIGATION. YEP. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVO
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