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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 7TH MEETING OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE IS ENROUTE. COUNCIL MEMBER.
FRIEDLI. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. CLEMENS. COUNCIL MEMBER.
MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. PRESENT. MAYOR.
HOLIDAY. INGRAM. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE AND SEVERAL AND A LOT OF OTHER EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING A POWER OUTAGE RIGHT NOW. CREWS ARE ASSESSING WHAT'S HAPPENING BUT HAVE NOT MADE A DETERMINATION YET. SO THOSE UPDATES SHOULD BE GOING OUT THROUGH COMMUNICATIONS WHILE WE'RE IN THE MEETING. OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT WILL BE BY PASTOR WALTER C MOBLEY JUNIOR, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING. LET US PRAY. WE HAVE GATHERED AS CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY OF EAST POINT TO HEAR AND TO PRAY FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OUR MAYOR AS THEY DELIBERATE THE AFFAIRS FOR US. BLESS THEM. BLESS OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. BLESS ALL THE VISITORS TO THIS GREAT CITY. BLESS THE CITIZENS WHO MAKE THIS CITY THRIVE. IN YOUR BLESSED NAME WE PRAY. AMEN.
OUR SERGEANT AT ARMS. THIS EVENING IS CAPTAIN ROBINSON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
[VI. PRESENTATIONS and ANNOUNCEMENTS]
SERVICE THIS EVENING. FIRST PRESENTATION IS GRPA PICKLEBALL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. BRINGING HOME THE GOLD MEDALS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT COLOR THEY WERE, BUT. COME ON UP, MISTER PINKETT.AS YOU GUYS CAN TELL, I GOT MY TEAM WITH ME TODAY. GOOD. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. HAPPY TO BRING SOME GOOD NEWS. ABOUT WHAT? PARKS AND RECREATION HAS ACCOMPLISHED. IT'S IMPORTANT I GIVE YOU ALL AND THE RESIDENTS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT US WITH PICKLEBALL. BACK IN LATE 2017. WE ATTENDED A DRPA MEETING, AND WE LEARNED ABOUT A NEW SPORT THAT WAS AVAILABLE CALLED PICKLEBALL. INITIALLY, I THOUGHT THE NAME WAS KIND OF STRANGE, BUT I MAY END UP BEING A LIFELINE FOR US DURING COVID. BACK IN 2017, WE INVESTED AND PUT PICKLEBALL LINES INTO OUR BASKETBALL COURTS. IN 2020, WHEN COVID OCCURRED. ONE OF THE FIRST SPORTS THAT WE'RE DEEMED AS LOW IMPACT WAS PICKLEBALL. DURING THAT TIME, WE WERE HOSTING TOURNAMENTS AT SYKES PARK. UP TO 100 RESIDENTS. PEOPLE FROM NEIGHBORING CITIES PLAYING PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENTS. MORE RECENTLY, IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, THE CITY MADE A STRONG STATEMENT BY INVESTING IN OUR PUBLIC TENNIS COURTS. SYKES PARK IS TREMAINE AND MISS CUMMINGS CAN ATTEST. IT'S NO PARKING OVER THERE MULTIPLE NIGHTS OUT OF THE WEEK. WE BUILT SIX DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURTS. WE RUN AN AWESOME PROGRAM CALLED NIGHT COURT RIGHT NOW. IT IS WELL ATTENDED. WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT 50 TO 60 PLAYERS IN THAT. BUT ENOUGH OF ME. I WANT TO BRING DARRYL BROADUS UP. SO MISTER DARYL DARRYL STARTED WITH ME BACK IN 2010. HE'S WORKED IN THE SPACE OF TENNIS AND MORE RECENTLY, PICKLEBALL. HE'S ONE OF OUR UNSUNG HEROES. A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE ME UP HERE. IT'S MYSELF AND DAJUAN AND MAYBE ONE OTHER PERSON. BUT DARRYL IS A EASTPOINTE RESIDENT. HE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY, GOING ON 14 YEARS. IT'S ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
DARRYL AND I STARTED ABOUT TWO MONTHS APART. BUT DARRYL HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB WITH TRAINING BEGINNERS IN PICKLEBALL. BUT OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE ADVANCED TO BECOME STATE CHAMPIONS MULTIPLE TIMES 2023. WE PRETTY MUCH WAS A LANDSLIDE. 2024. THE SAME THING.
RIGHT NOW WE BOAST THE LARGEST PICKLEBALL GROUP FROM A RECREATION STANDPOINT IN METRO
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ATLANTA. BUT WITH NO FURTHER ADO, I WANT TO BRING UP MISTER DARRYL BROADUS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, Y'ALL, THAT Y'ALL ARE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING US AND I WANT TO. I APPRECIATE YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL PEOPLE, MY DIRECTOR, LAURA PINKETT, AND THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DEJUAN ANDERSON FOR YOUR INTERNAL AS WELL AS YOUR EXTERNAL CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND YOU'VE CREATED A PLATFORM WHERE WE PLAY PICKLEBALL ALL THE TIME IN OUR PARKS. SO WE'VE GOT PICKLEBALL AT EVERY TENNIS COURT IN EASTPOINTE, AND WE ARE WE HAVE SET THE STANDARD FOR PICKLEBALL IN THE METRO AREA. YOU KNOW, WE JUST WE JUST PACKED CONSTANTLY. AND THIS GREAT GROUP HERE. WE TOOK A TRIP DOWN TO MACON ON SEPTEMBER 14TH AND 15TH FOR THE GEORGIA RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION STATE TOURNAMENT. AND WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE SIX GOLD MEDALS AND TWO BRONZE MEDALS. SO I THINK WE KIND OF OUSTED MOST GROUPS THAT DID COME DOWN THERE DURING THAT TIME. BUT I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE THESE GREAT PICKLEBALL PLAYERS RIGHT HERE. AND I DO WANT TO THANK, YOU KNOW, OUR DIRECTOR FOR HANGING IN THERE WITH US WITH THE PICKLEBALL AS WELL AS TENNIS. TENNIS IS STILL GOING ON TO AT SYKES PARK AS WELL AS THE CITY. ALL OF OUR OTHER COURTS. SO I'M GOING TO CALL OUT SOME OF OUR WINNERS. BRANDON WHITE. OKAY. RICKY LEE. PAULA VALENTINE, JOYCE EVANS, JOHN DALTON HE'S MY PARTNER. AND WE DID WIN BRONZE WHILE WE WERE DOWN THERE, SO WE DID. WE HAD A GOOD JOB, HAD A GOOD TIME. JADA MOORE. SAMANTHA HURD, SABA TAYLOR, AYO OJOMO HE'S NOT HERE, BUT HE HAS A REPRESENTATIVE. YEAH ROBERT LEWIS CHARLENE SMITH IS NOT HERE. ROSS MITCHELL IS NOT HERE.MARCOS GRIFFIN IS NOT HERE. BRIAN JACKSON IS NOT HERE, AND SHANE HARRIS IS NOT HERE. BUT ALL OF THEM DID WELL. THEY THEY JUST TORE IT UP IN MACON. THEY KNOW US AND MACON. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY KNOW ABOUT EAST POINT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. AND, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS LAST YEAR WHEN WE WENT DOWN AND WE WON QUITE A BIT OF GOLD, AS WELL AS SILVER AND BRONZE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO COME OUT TONIGHT. TO THE EAST POINT PICKLEBALL. YOU KNOW, THEY REPRESENT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BRINGING IT HOME. SO PEOPLE THEY KNOW THERE'S NO POINT LIKE EAST POINT, EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO PICKLEBALL. I ACTUALLY GOT I GOT SOME T SHIRTS AS WELL. OKAY. I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN DO A QUICK PICTURE AND WE'LL BE OUT OF YOUR WAY. ABSOLUTELY. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MISTER BROADUS. HE TAUGHT OUR DAUGHTER NIA HOW TO SWING A RACKET. AND I THINK SHE WAS LIKE 4 OR 5 YEARS OLD. SHE WAS DOING TENNIS. SO HE'S BEEN AT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE, AND WE WILL COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE TOGETHER. AND WE GOT SOME VARIOUS SIZES IN HERE. I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM OUT LOUD. THANK YOU. TURN THIS WAY SO THAT WE CAN. MEETING. ALRIGHT, WE'LL STAND IN FRONT OF THIS.
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ALRIGHT. NEXT UP IS 2025 BENEFIT. BENEFIT PROGRAM. CARRIER RENEWALS FROM HUMAN RESOURCES. THIS IS MR. BROWN AND MISS JESSIE. I SEE THE PRESENTERS COMING FORWARD. WE HAVE PRESENTERS HERE. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. JUST GIVE US A MINUTE.GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. WE ARE BRINGING PART TWO BACK TO YOU.
WE PROVIDED INFORMATION ON OUR 2025 BENEFIT RENEWALS. A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO AND BENNETT IS THE CITY'S BENEFITS BROKER. THEY WENT BACK AND CONTINUED TO SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA OF MEDICARE ADVANTAGE FOR OUR RETIREES. SO WE DO HAVE AN UPDATE IN THAT AREA TODAY. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHARLES ATKINSON, WHO IS THE OWNER AND PRINCIPAL FOR BENEFITS AND HE WILL INTRODUCE HIS PARTNER, CHARLES. THANK YOU. JASON. PRESS THE. RED BUTTON. THERE YOU GO. OH, OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M CHARLES ATKINSON, FOUNDER AND MANAGING PRINCIPAL OF ANALYTICS CONSULTING GROUP. AND WITH ME TODAY IS MY COLLEAGUE NORMA ROBERTSON. AND WE WILL WE WILL GO OVER THE RENEWALS THAT WE RECEIVED FOR THIS UPCOMING PLAN YEAR. AND DURING THE MEETING WE'LL GO OVER THE RENEWALS, THE MEDICAL PLAN OPTIONS, AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE WILL BRING BEFORE YOU FOR A DECISION. HERE WE HAVE A SEVERAL OF THE BENEFITS. WE'VE ALREADY THEY'RE ALREADY CURRENTLY UNDER A RATE GUARANTEE. THE LIFE AND A D AND D INSURANCE IS UNDER GUARANTEE. THE SHORT AND LONG TERM DISABILITY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER GUARANTEES. WE'RE GOING TO BRING BEFORE YOU THE MEDICAL WHICH CURRENTLY HAS A RENEWAL OF 14.3%. AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE IT.
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BACK UP. SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND AS SOON AS IT COMES BACK UP, WE'LL MAKE SURE THEY CATCH YOU UP TO WHERE YOU ARE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THE I HAVE THE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS.YEAH. LOOK AT THAT. AND ON THE, THE MEDICAL RENEWAL THERE WAS A, A 14.3% INCREASE. AND IT'S AT THAT LEVEL BECAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS RFP WE NEGOTIATED A CAP FOR THE SECOND YEAR WITH AETNA.
SO THE 14.3 IS THE CAP. WHEREAS IF WE LOOKED AT JUST THE EXPERIENCE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH HIGHER. AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN A MINUTE. THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE. AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AS WELL. THERE WERE A NUMBER. THERE WAS A THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION IN IN THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT WITH RETIREE. I'M SORRY.
HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. MADAM CITY CLERK, DO YOU HAVE A BACKUP RECORDER? OLIVE IS OUT. THE LIKE A TAPE RECORDER OR YOUR PHONE? OKAY. WE'LL CONTINUE.
FSA AND COBRA BENEFITS THERE NOW. THERE ARE SLIGHT INCREASES FOR THOSE. AND THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RATES ARE FOR THE RENEWAL. THE RATES GO FROM 360 PER PARTICIPANT PER MONTH TO 380.
THE COBRA GOES FROM $0.40 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH TO $0.45 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH. GREAT. AND FOR THE VOLUNTARY BENEFITS AND WHICH IS AFLAC. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE RATES. AND NORMA WILL TAKE IT FROM HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO READDRESS THE 2025 RENEWALS THAT WE RECEIVED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AS CHARLES MENTIONED, THE MEDICAL RENEWAL IS 14.3%. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY NEGOTIATED WHEN WE TOOK THIS PROGRAM TO THE MARKET FOR A COMPETITIVE BID, AND WE NEGOTIATED A SECOND YEAR NOT TO EXCEED. AND THANK GOODNESS WE DID, BECAUSE THE ACTUAL EXPERIENCE FOR EAST POINT FROM AN UNDERWRITING PERSPECTIVE, IS 30% TRENDING HIGH. AND WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU WHY. SO LOOKING AT 14.3, IT'S ACTUALLY WE'RE SEEING SOME PRETTY HIGH NUMBERS COMING INTO 2025. AND THE VALUE OF THAT INCREASE IS $833,841 ANNUALLY. AS AN INCREASE TO THE BUDGET. WHEN WE WERE BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE TALKED
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ABOUT THE FACT THAT THAT INCREASE COULD BE ABSORBED BY THE CITY OR SHARED IN A PERCENTAGE OR PROPORTION TO THE PLAN MEMBERS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE MEDICAL PROGRAM. SO WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? IF YOU DON'T MIND. CHARLES, PUT ME DOWN. ONE. THIS IS THE INFORMATION I SHARED WITH YOU THE LAST TIME. YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST CLAIMS TO PREMIUMS TRENDING HIGH. THERE'S SOME VERY LARGE CLAIMS THAT ARE ALSO MATERIALIZING WITHIN THE PROGRAM. AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR PLAN WITH AETNA. SO THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY HERE. BUT FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, HEALTH CARE TREND ANNUALLY IS 11%. SO WE'RE AT 14.3. AND BEFORE TREND WAS PLIED THROUGH THE UNDERWRITING PROCESS, WE WERE OVER A 30% LOSS RATIO. SO WE FEEL REALLY GOOD. THAT 14.3 IS PROTECTING US. IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE. OKAY. EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS THE CITY OF EAST POINT MADE SOME CHANGES TO HOW EMPLOYEES PAID WHEN THEY ELECTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN, AND THAT WAS DONE REALLY THREE YEARS AGO. THERE WAS A DISTINCT REDUCTION IN EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. AND ON THIS SLIDE, THERE IS A BENCHMARK FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AND SAY, OKAY, HOW DO WE COMPARE TO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING OUT THERE IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE IN THE RICHER OF THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE SPONSOR, YOU PAY $87 A MONTH. THESE ARE MONTHLY NOT PER PAYCHECK. THESE ARE 8744 FOR EMPLOYEE TO THE RIGHT YOU CAN LOOK AT THREE DIFFERENT BENCHMARKS THAT WE HAVE EXTRACTED. ONE THAT'S BASED ON THE SIZE. THE SECOND BASED ON BEING GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. AND THE THIRD IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SOUTHEAST. BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO THINK HEALTH CARE IS UNIFORM IN THIS WONDERFUL NATION, IT IS NOT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT CURRENTLY THE EAST POINT CONTRIBUTION IS ACTUALLY THERE ON THE SCREEN. ARE CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING FOR FAMILY COVERAGE. SAME SORT OF RESULT, NOT NEARLY AS AS BIG AS THE EMPLOYEE ONLY COVERAGE CATEGORY, BUT STILL THERE IS ROOM TO BRING IT AND ALIGN WITH WHAT OTHER EMPLOYERS ARE DOING HERE IN THE SOUTH OR OTHER GOVERNMENTAL, LOCAL AND STATE. AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT FOR MANY OF YOUR EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE SPOUSES THAT WORK FOR THE STATE PLAN. YEAH, THIS IS PROBABLY WHY WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THEM ON THE EAST POINT PROGRAM. IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE PROGRAM. SO WE'RE FACED WITH 833,000. AND WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED BEFORE, YOU ARE REALLY THREE OPTIONS. THE CITY COULD DO NOTHING. AND THE BUDGET FOR THE HEALTH CARE PROGRAM ONLY WOULD NEED TO INCREASE 833,841. THE SECOND OPTION, WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, SAYS WE GOT A 14.3% INCREASE. WE SHARE IN THAT EQUALLY. THE CITY OF EAST POINT INCREASES THE BUDGET. 14.3 EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS GO UP 14.3, AND SO WE MAINTAIN THAT EQUILIBRIUM BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY DOES, WHAT THE EMPLOYEE PAYS, AND TO THE LEFT IN THE MIDDLE WHERE IT SAYS ALTERNATIVE ONE, THE INCREASES ARE WHAT YOUR EMPLOYEES OR IF THEY'RE COVERING THEIR DEPENDENTS, WILL EXPERIENCE MONTHLY UNDER THAT SCENARIO. SO FOR SINGLE COVERAGE, IT'S AN INCREASE DEPENDING ON THE OPTION A LITTLE LESS THAN $10 A MONTH, UP TO 1250. THAT'S NOT THAT'S A MONTH. THAT'S NOT PER PAY PERIOD. SO YOU YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT'S ABOUT $6 A PAY PERIOD GOING UP. THE FAMILY IS GOING UP 87, 84. WELL REALLY THE LOWEST ONE IS 6735.UP TO 9141 AS A CHANGE, WHAT THAT DOES IS IF WE'RE STARTING WITH AN INCREASE TO YOUR BUDGET OF 833,000, IF WE SHARE EQUALLY, THE CITY OF EAST POINT WILL GO UP 707,000. THE DIFFERENCE THERE OF ABOUT 126,000. KNOW DID I DO THAT? 126,000 IS BEING PAID FOR BY THE EMPLOYEES. ALTERNATIVE
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TWO SAYS IS THAT TO IF THAT IS TOO MUCH FOR THE COUNCIL TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, THEN WE COULD DO SOMETHING PART WAY AND THAT IS WHAT ALTERNATIVE TWO IS IT INCREASES EACH, IT INCREASES THE EMPLOYEES. 7.5%. AND WITH THAT YOUR YOUR THE CITY WILL ABSORB 767,000 AS AN INCREASE TO THE BUDGET FOR 2025. THIS PLAN IS FULLY INSURED, WITH AETNA THE ONLY THING THAT WILL CHANGE THESE NUMBERS IS IF ENROLLMENT CHANGES YOUR HEADCOUNT. THAT'S SHOWN TO THE LEFT. BUT FOR THE FOR THE MOST PART, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM HR FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. AS CHARLES MENTIONED EARLIER OR I THINK IRIS MENTIONED, MISS MISS JESSIE MENTIONED WE DID GET SOME LEVERAGE WITH AETNA ON THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PROGRAM. THIS IS HAS A SUBSIDY FROM THE CITY FOR RETIREES WHO QUALIFY. WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE IT FROM 20.53% DOWN TO 19.7. NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF A GIVE. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE BIG DRIVER HERE IS THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT THAT IN EFFECT IS REMOVING THE DONUT HOLE FOR PHARMACY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, IT'S REDUCING THE OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES DUE TO PHARMACEUTICAL SPEND. AND THAT IS IN EFFECT THE GOVERNMENT'S WAY OF PUSHING IT OVER TO THE EMPLOYER. THAT IS SUBSIDIZING OR THE MEMBERS OR THE HEALTH PLAN, JUST NOT ON THEIR NICKEL. SO THAT'S WHAT THE DRIVER IS OF THIS. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON THE ACTIVE PROGRAM, WE HAVE DONE SCENARIOS.IF THE CITY OF EAST POINT WANTS TO ABSORB THE FULL INCREASE OF THIS 19.7% BASED UPON THOSE IN THE PLAN, THAT WILL INCREASE THE BUDGET 89,400 OR SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST AND WHAT IS AN OPTION FOR THE ACTIVES TO SHARE IN IT EQUALLY. 5050 AND THAT REDUCES IT DOWN TO 44 700. AND THEN LAST IS THE DENTAL RENEWAL. IT'S 5% DENTAL HAS SEEN SINCE COVID. A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE DENTAL MARKET. A LOT OF DENTISTS HAVE RETIRED. WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFFING ISSUES IN THE DENTAL COMMUNITY. THAT'S DRIVING UP THE COSTS OF NEGOTIATING FOR DENTAL COVERAGE. WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP IT DOWN TO 5%, WHICH IS ACTUALLY UNDER DENTAL INFLATION.
INFLATION FOR DENTAL IS NOT AS HIGH ANNUALLY AS MEDICAL, BUT IT IS STILL AROUND 8%. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE SIMILAR SORT OF IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, THEN THE NO CHANGE THE EXCUSE ME, THE CITY WOULD BE ABSORBING $19,960 ANNUALLY OR WE PASS IT ALL ON TO THE EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THE DENTAL IS PRIMARILY A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRIBUTIONS, THEY'RE VERY, VERY LOW. SO WE COULD VERY EASILY PASS IT ALONG TO THE PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY LOW COMPARED TO MARKET OR LIKE THE OTHER SCENARIOS SHARED EQUALLY. SO THAT IS WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. SO WE'RE COMING BEFORE YOU. WE SPENT MORE TIME ON IT THE LAST TIME WE MET. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. BUT WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH REALLY THREE DECISIONS. THE MEDICAL CONTRIBUTIONS, THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE CONTRIBUTIONS, AND THE DENTAL PLAN CONTRIBUTIONS FOR 2025. WHAT ARE THE AMOUNTS? AGAIN, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT THE FOR THE MEDICAL PLAN. MEDICAL IS. EIGHT SOMETHING 8833841833841 CORRECT MEDICARE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE IS 89,400. AND DENTAL IS 19 NINE 6019, NINE, 6960. I DON'T SEE
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ANYONE IN RIGHT NOW. SO I'LL START WITH I THINK I'M. NOT ASKING FOR COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOW ARE YOU DOING? GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS. THANK YOU.I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN WE SAID THE 14.3 INCREASE EQUALLY. SO IS IT ACTUALLY THE INCREASE IS ALMOST 30% OR BECAUSE OR IS IT 14.3? I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THE NUMBERS TO PUT IN 14.3. AND THEN THEY PUT IN 14.3. EACH BUCKET GOES UP 14.3%. SO IF THE TOTAL PIE INCREASE 14.3 TO KEEP IT IN EQUILIBRIUM, YOUR CONTRIBUTION GOES UP 14.3 AND THE PARTICIPANTS CONTRIBUTION GOES UP 14.3. THE PIE STILL ONLY WENT UP 14.30. I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WOULD JUST KEEP US AT DOING THE SAME THING WE'RE DOING NOW, SAME SPLIT OF COST, SAME COST SHARE. AND THEN SO FOR ALTERNATIVE NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A 7.5, COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT ONE AGAIN WHAT WE DID WAS WE INCREASED THE EMPLOYEES CONTRIBUTIONS 7.5%. AND THE DIFFERENCE THAT IS NEEDED WOULD BE MADE UP BY THIS. THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS SO INSTEAD OF 14.3, THE EMPLOYEE WILL ONLY BE INCREASED 7.57 14.3 THE EMPLOYEE WOULD ONLY GO UP 7.5. SO NOW IS THIS 833841 NUMBER IS THAT IF WE PAID THE ENTIRE INCREASE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT. OKAY. SO WHAT WHAT ARE THE COMPARABLES BETWEEN ALTERNATIVE ONE AND TWO ON YOUR SLIDES? I CAN FOLLOW WHERE YOU ALTERNATIVE ONE SAYS WE ARE SHARING IT EQUALLY. SO OF THE PIE GOING UP 14.3. WHOOPS. OH YOU WANT TO GO BACK. NO. OH I'M SORRY. YEAH. YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SCREEN OKAY. LET'S GO BACK TO SLIDE SIX PLEASE. THIS IS THIS ONE. NO NO. YES OKAY. SO THIS IS THE SLIDE I THINK WOULD SHOW IT THE EASIEST FOR YOU. AND IT IS THAT THESE ARE REALLY FOR YOU TO SEE THE IMPACT TO THE EMPLOYEE. SO RIGHT NOW IN BLUE THAT'S WHAT THE EMPLOYEE PAYS TODAY MONTHLY AGAIN EVERYTHING'S MONTHLY ON THIS SLIDE WHEN WE INCREASE THEM 14.3%. THE 8744 BECOMES 9994. AND THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $12.50 A MONTH. OKA.
SO THAT WENT UP 14.3. AND FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT IT NOW REDUCES THE BUDGET INCREASE FROM 833 DOWN TO 707 I GOTCHA OKAY. SO NOW ALTERNATIVE TWO IS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING. IT'S LOOKING AT 8744 INCREASING IT BY 7.5%. THAT'S THE INCREASES THE PARTICIPANT WILL SEE. THAT'S PRODUCING FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS 950,000. SO NETTIE'S POINT YOU CAN SEE IT DOWN TO THE RIGHT, 5.7 MILLION FOR A BUDGET INCREASE OF 767. COULD YOU SHOW ME THE ALTERNATIVE NUMBER TWO, WITH THE EMPLOYEES INCREASE WOULD BE I SAW ALTERNATIVE. OH, I SEE IT.
SEE 294 INSTEAD OF 99. OKAY. CORRECT. CORRECT. MA'AM I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER A QUESTION IF I MAY. HAVE WE ANTICIPATED THESE INCREASES IN OUR RECENT BUDGET? WELL, WE HAD TO. OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T GET OUR I THINK OUR RATE STRUCTURE UNTIL AUGUST, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PLAN PERFECTLY, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO BUDGET FOR IT. AND INSURANCE FOR GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE. SO DO WE KNOW IF WE'RE PREPARED, HOW MUCH OF THIS MONEY WE MAY BE PREPARED TO PAY? YES, YES. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT, BUT WE LOOKED AT THE 833 ON MEDICAL AND SO THAT'S BUDGETED FOR. OKAY. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A DECISION TONIGHT FROM US? YES. WE WERE HOPING FOR A DECISION TONIGHT. WE ARE WE HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT PLANNED. AND SO IT REALLY IS. WHAT ARE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONVEY I HAVE ONE ONE MORE QUESTION TOO. WHAT IS THE COLA. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE COLA INCREASE WAS. AND MAYBE MISS JESSIE MAY KNOW THAT. YEAH. YEAH
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I THINK WE KNOW HOW MUCH THE COLA. I'M SORRY. COLA. I'M THINKING MUSIC. NOT 3%. OKAY.THAT'S FINE. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW. 3%. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE.
THANK YOU. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR IS THIS BEING IN THE BUDGET. SO IF WE STICK WITH THE FIRST PLAN, WHICH IS 8744 AND I'M USING THAT FIRST ONE AND, AND THE CITY DO THE 833, THEN THE PLAN WON'T GO UP. CORRECT. FOR THE PURCHASE PLAN, IT WOULD NOT INCREASE FOR BECAUSE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS TWO DIFFERENT ONES. SO ONE IS JUST SO THIS IS FIRST RESPONDERS FIRST. AND THEN WHAT IS THE SECOND ONE. MEDICAL 6726 6726 OH THAT'S THE SECOND OPTION. YOU HAVE TWO PLANS. ONE IS 85% AND THE OTHER ONE IS AN 80%. OKAY. SO FOR ONE PERSON WE HAVE 38 EMPLOYEES RIGHT. IS THAT FIRST RESPONDERS. YES OKAY. 81 THAT ARE NOT FIRST RESPONDERS. OH I SEE THE DIFFERENCE. YOU SEE. SO IN THE PLAN TODAY THERE'S 471 EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE ELECTED COVERAGE OKAY. AND SO THEN MY QUESTION IS SO HAVE MISS MISS JESSIE, HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED AT THE ONE THAT WOULD WOULD BETTER FIT THE CITY? BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WE HAVE PAID THE DIFFERENCE. YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER. TREASURER. WE HAVE THE CITY IS ASSURED THE INCREASES OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, ACTUALLY. AND A LOT OF IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN IN REGARDS TO THE WHAT'S SET FOR THE MILLAGE RATE. I'M NOT THE FINANCE PERSON, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSULT WITH SHANNON GOLDEN OR SOMEONE FROM FINANCE TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
BUT AS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER SAID, WE PUT IN PLACEHOLDERS UNTIL WE COULD SEE EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING TO COME IN FOR THE FINAL NUMBERS FROM THE MARKETING AND UNDERWRITING EFFORTS. SO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF CHOICES. YOU CAN ABSORB THE FULL 833,841, OR YOU COULD SHARE IT ON SOME BASIS. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE COLA, COLA WAS 3%. SO SOMETIMES EMPLOYEES WILL SAY THAT YOU GAVE IT AND NOW YOU'RE TAKING IT AWAY. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE PRESENTING THIS TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE CORRECT BECAUSE THAT'S JUST LIKE WITH YOUR SENIORS. AND THEY GIVE AN INCREASE IN THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY. AND THEN MEDICAID GO UP AND THEY JUST TAKE IT RIGHT BACK. SO THAT'S HOW THIS WOULD PROBABLY WORK. YOU GIVE THEM A 3% COLA, THEN THE INSURANCE GO UP. SO YOU'RE TAKING IT BACK. AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY GET A INCREASE. THEY'RE PAYING IT ALL BACK IN BENEFITS. SO AND YOU AND WHAT I HEARD WAS BASED ON THE MILLAGE RATE WHICH THE CITY COULD ABSORB, THE COST BASED ON WHAT WE DO WITH THE MILLAGE RATE SO THAT PLAYS A FACTOR IN THAT IS THE EXTRA MONEY THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE THAT THEY CAN PUT INTO THIS TOO. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A BURDEN ON. STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. WHAT DO YOU GUYS HAVE SCHEDULED FOR YOUR OPEN ENROLLMENT DATES? I'M SORRY, OPEN ENROLLMENT? YES, MISS. DO WE HAVE ANY OPEN ENROLLMENT DATES IN PLACE NOW? WE HAVE TENTATIVE OPEN ENROLLMENT DATES LATER ON THIS MONTH. THERE WE HAVEN'T PUBLISHED ANYTHING YET BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL A DECISION HAS BEEN MADE FOR FROM THE COUNCIL. SO WE'RE WAITING. IT WON'T BE A FULL FLEDGED WHERE YOU BRING IN
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VENDORS AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE WE WILL BE KEEPING THE SAME PLAN. THE PLAN ISN'T CHANGING AND DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU DO WITH THE RATES, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE AS WELL. SO IT WILL BE MORE OF A PASSIVE OPEN ENROLLMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MADAM MAYOR, IF THIS IS THE TIME TO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO PLAY. LIKE YOU WERE SAYING WITH REGARDS TO THE DECISION THAT WE MADE FOR THE MILLAGE RATE. SO DO WE. A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. I KNOW INTERIM CITY MANAGER, YOU SAID THAT WE DID YOU YOU ALLOCATED I GUESS YOU BUDGETED PRETTY MUCH THAT WE THAT THE CITY ABSORBED. YEAH. I THINK THE QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MUCH DID WE PUT IN THE BUDGET SINCE WE SAID WE ABSORBED SOME OF IT. HOW MUCH DID WE PUT IN THE BUDGET? AND FROM WHAT I RECALL LAST YEAR WHEN WE SWITCHED TO AETNA, THAT WE SAVED QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. AND THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT THE MONEY THAT WE USED IN SAVINGS WOULD BE USED TO OFFSET AT LEAST THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO COVER THE INCREASE. AND SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THE NUMBERS, ONE THAT WE PUT IN THE BUDGET AND TWO, THE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE SAVED FROM SWITCHING TO AETNA BECAUSE THERE WAS A VERY SPECIFIC CONVERSATION OF USING THOSE FUNDS TO OFFSET THIS YEAR. WE KNEW WE'D HAVE AT LEAST ENOUGH FOR ONE YEAR, AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A CAP SO WE COULD PROJECT WHAT THE AMOUNT WOULD BE. SO DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS ON? WHAT DID WE PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR MEDICAL, RETIREMENT AND DENTAL AND THEN TWO, HOW MUCH DID WE SAVE LAST YEAR FOR AETNA? BECAUSE SWITCHING TO AETNA, BECAUSE THAT CONVERSATION WAS THAT WE WOULD USE THAT FOR THIS YEAR. I'M GOING ON MEMORY, BUT I'M 90% SURE THE NUMBER THAT WE SAVED WAS $320,000 GOING FROM HUMANA TO AETNA. NOW THE BIG MONEY WAS WHEN WE WENT TO HUMANA FROM CIGNA. RIGHT. THAT MAY BE THE ONE YOU'RE THINKING. THAT WAS ONE. IT WAS A LOT. THAT WAS THAT WAS OVER A MILLION. YES. SO WE DID SAVE A LITTLE BIT THOUGH WHEN HUMANA DECIDED TO EXIT THE COMMERCIAL MARKET. THAT WAS NOT A DECISION THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE. WE TOOK IT OUT TO MARKET. AETNA HAD A COMPETITIVE PROPOSAL AS WELL AS THE SECOND YEAR CAP, WHICH WAS VERY ATTRACTIVE, AND THAT PROCESS BETWEEN WHERE HUMANA WAS AND WHERE AETNA CAME IN WAS 320. SO THAT TAKES THAT DOWN TO ABOUT 513. DO WE HAVE AS COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS ASKED, DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT WE BUDGETED TO IF WE DON'T? I THINK THAT'S VERY CRITICAL INFORMATION. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO OPEN ENROLLMENT LATER THIS MONTH. WE COULD PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION TO GET THOSE NUMBERS AND INDICATE THAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AT THAT MEETING, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT. THAT'S INTERIM CITY MANAGER. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY FROM FINANCE HERE. BUT LIKE, I THINK WE COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED WANTING TO KNOW HOW MUCH DID WE BUDGET IN THIS BUDGET YEAR? HOW MUCH DID WE PROJECT WE WOULD NEED TO COVER THIS. AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS TONIGHT, THAT'S FINE. WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR MONDAY. BUT WE I DON'T THINK THAT WE UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT'S A VERY CRITICAL PIECE OF INFORMATION TO KNOW SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT NUMBERS WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT. LIKE WE ALREADY BUDGETED $833,000, THEN IT'S ALREADY THERE. WE HAD 320 PLUS 513. IF WE ALREADY BUDGETED THE 89 FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, AND IF WE ALREADY BUDGETED 19, NINE, 60, I MEAN, THAT'S A WE KIND OF ALREADY APPROVED IT. BUT WE COULD READOPT THAT APPROVAL. BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT NUMBERS WE BUDGETED. MADAM MAYOR, ONE POINT CLARIFICATION IS THAT THIS YEAR IS THE LAST YEAR FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO. IT WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, WHICH ENDS DECEMBER 31ST. SO WE THIS PLAN YEAR STARTS JANUARY 1ST OF 2025. SO WE WOULD TECHNICALLY BE GOING INTO THAT YEAR WITHOUT A SUBSID. SO WE THAT'S YOU WERE SHAKING NODDING YOUR HEAD. YES. THAT'S[00:45:01]
WHAT WE USED A LOT OF THE SAVINGS FOR WAS THAT WE USED ALL OF THEM TO BE ABLE TO COVER PUBLIC SAFETY FOR A SPECIFIED PERIOD THAT ENDS AT THIS END OF THIS YEAR. THAT WAS THE SAVINGS THAT WERE DERIVED FROM MOVING TO HUMANA ORIGINALLY. AND THAT WAS CARRIED FOR THREE YEARS. THAT MONEY HAS BEEN USED. WE DID HAVE THIS $320,000 DELTA. SORRY, CHARLES, $320,000 DELTA BETWEEN HUMANA GOING OUT OF THE BUSINESS AND THE COMPETITION FROM THE MARKETPLACE. WHEN WE SELECTED AETNA. BUT NO, WE DIDN'T TAG THAT. WE JUST DIDN'T INCREASE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR 2024. THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE. SO THIS WILL BE THE END OF THAT THREE YEAR PERIOD. AND SO WE'RE OKAY.COUNCIL. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING. YES. ONE MORE THING. SO YOU SAID THAT THE I GUESS THE GRACE PERIOD FOR THE INCENTIVE THAT WE WERE GIVING FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS HAS GONE THIS YEAR.
CORRECT. THAT MONEY THAT SUBSIDIZED THAT IS, HAS BEEN USED. ALL RIGHT. SO REALLY ACTUALLY WE NEED TO ASK THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AT THE TOP FOR FIRST RESPONDERS FOR THE 80% AND THE 85%. CORRECT. WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE DIFFERENCE YOUR NUMBERS ON THIS PAGE OKAY. STILL MAINTAINS THAT SUBSIDY. IT BECAME OUR NEW BASELINE OKAY. SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE OFF OF THE RATES THAT REFLECT THE SUBSIDY. THANK YOU. I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TO INTERIM CITY MANAGER. I KNOW WE DID VOTE TO GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES A RAISE THIS YEAR, AND I KNOW SOME OF THAT MONEY WOULD COME FROM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS FROM THE MILLAGE RATE. SO IF I GUESS WOULD THAT YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT CAME UP EARLIER IN THE MEETING. DO YOU KNOW AROUND WHAT FIGURE THAT WAS FOR THAT 20 I DO NOT I KNOW SHANNON GOLDEN IS HERE THIS EVENING AND HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT. THIS THIS PRESENTATION SEEKS TO GET A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT ON WHICH PLANS. SO WE COULD LOOK AT IT AS, YOU KNOW WE WHEN WE WHEN WE DO OUR, OUR BUDGET, OUR BUDGET IS DONE BEFORE AUGUST 1ST. SO THESE THIS INFORMATION COMES AFTER WE SET THE BUDGET RIGHT. AND SO OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE GET THIS IN WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE. WE BUDGETED FOR IT. AND DEPENDING ON WHICH HOW YOU SELECT IT WILL WILL HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS DEPENDING ON HOW YOU PARSE OUT HOW YOU SELEC.
SO TONIGHT WE'D LIKE TO GET A RECOMMENDATION OR SELECTION SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.
AND THEN MAYBE MONDAY WE CAN COME BACK WITH SPECIFICS ON ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IF THAT'S EVEN IMPORTANT. BUT IF IT'S IMPORTANT IT'S IMPORTANT OKAY. SO I YEAH THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAS EVERYBODY GONE DONE ONE TIME I DON'T WANT TO JUMP ON. IF IT I THINK I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE AND WHAT MISS JESSIE SAID THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE GO WITH THAT.
WE ABSORB THE EIGHT 3384 841 BECAUSE IF WE'VE ONLY GIVEN THEM A 3% RAISE AND THEY WERE COMING BACK AND WE WERE RAISING THEIR INSURANCE RATES BECAUSE THAT'S IF THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING.
SO IF IT PLEASES THE COUNCIL, I WOULD SUPPORT OPTION NUMBER ONE AND ABSORBING THE ENTIRE 833.
841. AND IF, IF, IF IT PLEASES THE MAYOR, I CAN PUT THAT IN THE MOTION. I JUST I MEAN, I HAVE COMMENTS EITHER BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MOTION OR IN DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION. I MEAN, I THINK KNOWING WHAT WE BUDGETED IS CRITICAL TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE DIFFERENCE FRO.
AND SO I SEE MR. GOLDEN HAS COME IN IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED TO SAY, THAT WE COULD PICK AN OPTION TONIGHT AND THEN FIGURE OUT THE NUMBERS WE IF WE HAD THE NUMBERS, THEY COULD ACTUALLY WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IS TO RUN THE NUMBERS THAT WE BUDGETED ALREADY AGAINST THE THREE OPTIONS, SO WE WOULD KNOW THE DIFFERENCES. AND SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT WITH THE ALL IN NOT KNOWING WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM OR HOW MUCH HAS BEEN BUDGETED, I THINK THAT'S COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION TO DO THAT. BUT WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IS WITH THESE THREE OPTIONS, WE KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT IS, WHAT DID WE BUDGET, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT TONIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN
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BUTLER, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE IS IN. SINCE MR. GOLDEN IS HERE, CAN HE COME UP AND KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE OR IDEA OF WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM? AND WHAT WAS BUDGETED? OF COURSE HE CAN. SHANNON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL. SO WITH THE CURRENT MILLAGE RATE, WE'RE PROPOSING A 13 MILL RATE. OUT OF THAT, WE'RE HAVING AN ADDITION OF THE 2.4 MILLION. SO WITH WITH THAT, WE CAN BUDGET THE 833,000 FOR MEDICAL BENEFITS AS WELL AS THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE OF 89, 89,000. IT WILL COME OUT OF THAT BUDGET. I GUESS I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TOLD THAT WE ALREADY BUDGETED IT, AND WE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET A PROJECTION OF WHAT THE AMOUNTS WOULD BE. CORRECT. SO DO WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID THE COLA, WE DID BUDGET A 20% INCREASE IN IN BENEFIT COSTS? IT IS A LINE ITEM, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE WITH ME RIGHT NOW TO GIVE TO EVERYBODY. BUT WE DID BUDGET THAT AS 20% OF THE COLA. SO THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. COUNCIL COULD MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT WITHOUT THE NUMBERS OR COUNCIL CAN GET THE NUMBERS ON MONDAY. WE CAN INCLUDE THIS ON THE WORK SESSION AS ACTION MAY BE TAKEN. AND MAKE THE DECISION WITH THE NUMBERS. SHROPSHIRE. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE THEM TO GET THE NUMBERS? BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING TO START ENROLLMENT THIS MONTH I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THAT. WHEN, WHEN I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAVE YOU ALL SET A DATE TO START ENROLLMENT? NO, MA'AM. WE HAVEN'T. WE'VE BEEN WAITING UNTIL THIS WAS ADOPTED. A PLAN A VERSION WAS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS IF WHEN THEY BUDGETED 20%. WAS THAT IN? THAT I'M ASSUMING WAS INCLUDED. WAS THAT BUDGET BASED ON THE PROJECTION OF TAX OF THE MILLAGE RATE? YES, MA'AM. IT WAS BASED ON THE 13 MILLS. OKAY. THANK YO.I HAVE ANOTHER. WITH THAT SAID, BASED UPON THE 20% INCREASE BASED UPON THE COLA AND THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE SOME SURPLUS, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING THE MOTION THAT WE SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER. THE FIRST OPTION WHERE THE CITY WOULD INCREASE ITS BUDGET TO EIGHT, 33, 84. WELL, THERE'S THREE I'M SORRY, THAT'S ONLY ONE. THE 833 841 IS FOR MEDICAL, 89,400 FOR MEDICAID AND MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. IN 19,964, DENTAL WOULD BE THE CITY COVERING THE 100% OF THE INCREASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION. YES, MA'AM. I THAT THAT'S THE MOTION THAT I WOULD MAKE THAT WE WOULD GO WITH THE CITY EATING THE INCREASE FOR ALL THREE OPTIONS. THERE'S A MOTION THAT THE CITY COVER 100% OF THE INCREASE. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL SO IF IT'S I THINK IT WAS PROJECTED AT 13%, IF WE DECIDE TO SHARE THE COST, IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH THE MOTION RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE 13% RATE. THE BUDGET. SO IF WE DECIDE TO SHARE THE COST, WE, WE HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THE MILLAGE RATE. IF WE SHARE THE COST, I THINK SO. OKAY. SO THE 833 841 $833,841 FOR MEDICAL, $89,400 FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, AND 19,960 FOR DENTAL, COMES TO $943,201. THE 13 MILL GIVES AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 2.4 MILLION. I'M HOPEFUL THAT DURING THE DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, STAFF IS GOING TO BE ITEMIZING WHAT THE $2.4 MILLION
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IS. INCREASE IS GOING TO BE USED FOR. BUT SO THERE'S OPTION C, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ON AN OPTION C IS THIS ITEM COULD BE TABLED UNTIL AFTER THE MILLAGE RATE DISCUSSION AND MAKE A DECISION. THERE. OR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. IF THERE'S NO SUBSTITUTE MOTION. COUNCILWOMAN MITCHELL, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? NO, I. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY, I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS. I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH. WE HAVE THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S $2.4 MILLION, BUT WE MAY HAVE IT SPENT TEN DIFFERENT WAYS. IT FEELS LIKE POTENTIALLY. AND SO THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPECIFICITY ON WHERE THAT 2.4 MILLION IS PEGGED RIGHT NOW. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. SO TWO THINGS IS THAT I HEAR A MOTION TO TABLE BEING CONTEMPLATED, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU WILL PICK IT BACK UP OFF THE TABLE TONIGHT. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS. IF IT IS TO RECONSIDER IT TONIGHT, THEN THAT'S APPROPRIATE. THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT AS A MOTION TO TABLE DOES NOT GET A DISCUSSION. SO IF COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLI IS MAKING THAT MOTION, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO MOVE TO US FOR A SECOND WITHOUT DEBATE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S I THINK I'M AT OPTION FOUR. RIGHT. SO THERE'S A MOTION. IF A MOTION TO TABLE IS MADE THERE WOULDN'T BE DISCUSSION ON THAT. IT WOULD BE TABLED TILL THE END OF THE MEETING. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IF THAT MOTION ISN'T MADE AND A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ISN'T MADE, THEN WE'D ACT ON THIS MOTION. AND SO I DON'T THINK THE MOTION TO TABLE REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY. BUT OPTION ONE, WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION MOTION COMING TO YOU RIGHT AFTER I EXPLAIN THESE. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY JUST MENTIONED POTENTIALLY TABLING. THERE'S ALSO IF WE TABLE IT STILL DECIDED TONIGHT AND IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL THAT DECISION COULD STILL BE MADE TONIGHT. THE OTHER OPTION IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO THE WORK SESSION SO THAT WE CAN GET NUMBERS. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE WORK SESSION ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 14TH. IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO MOVE THE ITEM TO THE OCTOBER 14TH. WORK SESSION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WE HAVE THREE MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. NOW. WE HAVE THREE MOTIONS WE HAVE. I JUST WANT A QUESTION.
CLARIFICATION. WE HAD ONE MOTION TO TABLE IT. THAT WASN'T A MOTION HE MENTIONED. OH THAT MAYBE IT SHOULD BE TABLED. THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL MOTION AND NOW THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. SO THAT TAKES THE MOTION ORIGINAL MOTION OFF THE TABLE WHILE THE SUBSTITUTE IS BEING CONSIDERED OR DISCUSSED. I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER AND COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, ARE YOU IN FOR DISCUSSION ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YES. I THINK THAT WE COULD TABLE THIS AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. THE VENDORS ARE HERE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBERS. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION. BUT TO BELABOR THE POINT, WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. SO I SUPPORT TABLING IT TO SOME MORE DATA.
REACHED. OKAY. SO THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN ON ON THE DISCUSSION. EACH MOTION CAN HAVE UP TO TWO SUBSTITUTE MOTIONS. SO THE OPTION NOW IS TO DEVOTE TO VOTE EITHER VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION OF MOVING THE ITEM TO THE MARCH 14TH WORK SESSION. I MEANT NO, IT WOULD NOT BE MARCH. THAT WAS WAY TOO LONG AND WE CAN'T GO BACK.
OCTOBER 14TH WORK SESSION. THERE'S NO OTHER HANDS OR NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION, I'LL CALL FOR THE QUESTION FOR THIS. UNLESS THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE TO THIS ONE. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE TABLE
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THIS ITEM UNTIL AFTER THE MILLAGE RATE. SECOND. PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE THAT WE MOVE ON PROPER. THIS TABLE. THIS ITEM. AND I DON'T HAVE MY RULES UP RIGHT NOW. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, I KNOW WE CAN TAKE TWO SUBSTITUTE MOTION.I WANT TO SAY THE RULE NUMBER ON THAT. AND THEN IF WE TABLE, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY TABLED UNTIL THE END OF THE AGENDA. YOU CAN SPECIFY A TIME OR YOU CAN SAY TO THE END OF THE AGENDA IS NOT AVAILABLE TO TAKE PUBLIC DISCUSSION. AND ITS IMPACT ON MAJORITY VOTE. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR ON THE MOTION TO TABLE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES THE MOTION WAS THE TABLE UNTIL AFTER THE MILLAGE RATE DISCUSSION. I MEAN, MILLAGE RATE HEARING. OKAY. NOW WE ARE ON TO PFAS AND NEW DRINKING WATER TREATMENT REGULATIONS. I WAS JUST IN THE EPA MEETING TODAY.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME INFORMATION COMING OUT TOMORROW AS WELL. MISS ECHEVARRIA. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. OKAY. MELISSA ADRIAN, THE WATER RESOURCES DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT TODAY. I HAVE A PRESENTATION ON PER AND POLYFLUOROALKYL SUBSTANCES. THEY ARE REFERRED TO AS PFAS. SO YOU'LL HEAR ME CONSTANTLY REFER TO THEM AS P-FAS. THEY ARE KNOWN AS FOREVER CHEMICALS. OKAY. AND SO THESE FOREVER CHEMICALS, WHEN THEY'RE MANMADE, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF CHEMICALS THAT DO EXIST. EPA IS ONLY MONITORING 180 OF THOSE SUBSTANCES. WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE AS OF APRIL 2024, SIX WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM AND FOR COMPLIANCE REGULATIONS. NOW, PFAS EXIST THROUGH FOOD, THROUGH THE PLANTS THAT WE GROW SOIL AND WATER AND ALSO AIR. THEY'RE VERY SMALL AMOUNTS THAT YOU CAN BE EXPOSED TO BY EATING THEM, WHETHER IT'S TO GO PACKAGES, POPCORN, MICROWAVABLE BAGS, CANDY WRAPPERS. BUT THE MAIN COMPONENT IS CONSUMING IT BY DRINKING WATER. AND SO IN 2024, THE US EPA DEVELOPED THE NATIONAL PRIMARY DRINKING WATER REGULATIONS FOR PFAS. AND WHAT YOU SEE ARE THE SIX THAT NOW WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM. YOU HAVE PFOA THAT MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL IS FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION. YOU HAVE PFAS, YOU HAVE PFHXS, PFOA, AND A YOU HAVE A SERIES OF GENX CHEMICALS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A MIXTURES OF PFBS, PFOA AND HFOS. AND SO HOW LONG HAVE PFAS BEEN AROUND? SINCE 1930S. THEY WERE INVENTED FROM A NON COKE OR NONSTICK COATING TO LIKE PANS, POTS AND OTHER USES, SEALANTS, PAINTINGS, ARCHITECTURAL RESINS, STAIN RESISTANT PESTICIDES, FIRE FIGHTING FOAMS. SO AGAIN, THESE INDUSTRIES HAVE BEEN EMITTING THESE SUBSTANCES IN WATERSHEDS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
AND SO WHAT ARE P-FAS? THEY ARE MAN MADE INVENTIONS GONE BAD. SO AGAIN THIS THESE ARE PESTICIDES, MAKEUP, DENTAL FLOSS, NAIL POLISH, WATER RESISTANT CLOTHING AND SHOES, SHAMPOOS, CANDY WRAPPERS. AND SO WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? AIR. SOILS. WATER. THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. AND SO THIS DIAGRAM INDICATES THE CYCLE OF PFAS. SO WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AS WELL AS MANUFACTURING FACILITIES THAT EMIT EMIT PFAS IN THE AIR. BUT THEY ALSO DISCHARGE DIRECTLY INTO OUR BASINS AND WATERSHEDS. OKAY. SO WASTEWATER FROM THOSE FACILITIES DO NOT REMOVE PFAS.
AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES ALSO DISCHARGE INTO OUR WATERSHEDS, LANDFILLS. YOU HAVE LEACHING THROUGH SOILS WHICH CONTAMINATE OUR GROUNDWATER AND ALSO OUR SURFACE WATER AND ALSO FARMLAND ALSO PARTICIPATE IN PFAS. SO AGAIN, THE ANIMALS THAT WE CONSUME, THE
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PLANTS THAT WE CONSUME, THE FISH THAT WE CONSUME HAVE ALL BEEN EXPOSED TO PFAS. NOW, AS A RESIDENTS, WE ARE EXPOSED TO THAT THROUGH THE PRODUCTS THAT WE PURCHASE THAT CONTAIN PFAS.NOW, WHAT MAKES PFAS UNIQUE? AGAIN, THEY ARE RESISTANT TO HEAT, OIL AND WATER AND THEY DO NOT READILY BREAK DOWN IN THE ENVIRONMENT, SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE THEM. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A LIST OF PRODUCTS THAT CONTAIN PFAS TO GO FOOD BOXES PACKAGING NONSTICK COOKWARE, CANDY WRAPPERS, CLEANING PRODUCTS, PLASTIC, WATER BOTTLES, ANY STAIN OR WATER RESISTANT CLOTHING, OUTDOOR GEAR OR SHOES, WATERPROOF CARPENTRY, UPHOLSTERY, COSMETICS, FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS, DENTAL FLOSS AND ANY TYPE OF FOOD PACKAGING THAT'S RESISTANT TO OIL AND GREASE. YOU ARE EXPOSED TO THAT. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE CONSUMING IT, WHICH IS A MINIMAL RISK AS FAR, WELL, NOT MINIMAL, BUT IT'S MINIMAL AS FAR AS SHAMPOOS AND WASHING DISHES, YOU HAVE MINIMAL RISK, BUT WE'RE INGESTING THESE PRODUCTS ALSO. HOW WE PROPERLY DISPOSE OF THESE PRODUCTS BY POLLUTING OR DISCHARGING THESE MATERIALS. NOT IN GARBAGE BINS AND PUTTING THEM IN OUR WATERWAYS, WE ARE INCREASING THAT PFAS CONTAMINATION. SO I HAVE TO LOOK DOWN BECAUSE I CAN'T READ THAT UP THERE IN TERMS OF HEALTH IMPACTS TO PFAS, THERE'S A HIGH CERTAINTY FOR THYROID DISEASE, INCREASED CHOLESTEROL LEVELS, LIVER DAMAGE, KIDNEY CANCER, TESTICULAR CANCER, MEMORY DEVELOPMENT IN THE FETUS, REDUCED RESPONSE TO VACCINES AND LOW BIRTH RATE. THERE'S A LOWER CERTAINTY OF OBESITY ON EARLY ONSET OF PUBERTY, PREGNANCY, AND BIO DISEASES. SO HERE IS A LIST OF THE KNOWN CONTAMINATION OF PFAS IN DRINKING WATER SYSTEMS TO DATE, YOU HAVE IN PURPLE, THE MILITARY SITES. THE BLUE IS DRINKING WATER SITES OR PLANTS AND THE RED ARE THE OTHER KNOWN SITES. AND KEEP IN MIND, NO ONE IS SPECIFICALLY SAMPLING FOR PFAS. BUT SOME PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO DO THAT IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. HERE IS THE MAP FOR PFAS. BLUE IS WHERE WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY SAMPLED YET.
ORANGE IS ABOVE THE REPORTING LIMIT OR THE MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVELS, AND GREEN IS BELOW THE REPORTING LIMIT. THE PICTURE THAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHAT WE ASSUMED THAT WHEN WE COMPLETE THE SAMPLING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, THE LOCATIONS OF PFAS IN THE UNITED STATES. HERE IS A PICTURE OF SWEETWATER CREEK RESERVOIR. IT IS OUR RESERVOIR IN DOUGLAS COUNTY AND LITHIA SPRINGS, GEORGIA. IT IS JUST OVER 250MIā .
SO WHAT'S NEXT? WE'RE WAITING FOR THE FINAL RULE. IN THAT FINAL RULE, EPA BELIEVES THAT 100 MILLION PEOPLE WILL HAVE PREVENTABLE DEATHS AND ILLNESSES, AND WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING IS PROVIDING $1 BILLION IN FUNDING TO HELP PUBLIC DRINKING WATER SYSTEMS TEST FOR PFAS. SO IN TERMS OF EAST POINT, OUR GOAL IS MEETING COMPLIANCE. SO HERE IS SWEETWATER CREEK BASIN. WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE ARE SOURCE TRACING. WE ARE SOURCE TRACING. INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE PERMITS TO EMIT PFAS. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT A COMBINATION OF INDUSTRIES AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE RESEARCHING THE CHEMICALS OF TEN FACILITIES THAT DISCHARGE INTO OUR WATER DRINKING SUPPLY SOURCE. SO WE HAVE THREE YEARS AND IT HAS TO BE COMPLETED BY 2027 TO COLLECT THREE YEARS OF DRINKING WATER SAMPLING TO DETERMINE IF WE HAVE PFAS IN OUR WATER SYSTEM. ONCE WE START MONITORING FOR THOSE CHEMICALS, WE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN OUR ANNUAL WATER DRINKING REPORT THAT WE DO SUBMIT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY EVERY YEAR. SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE AHEAD. WE HAVE UNTIL 2029. WE HAVE FIVE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT SOLUTIONS AND REDUCE PFAS IN OUR SYSTEM IF IT'S LOCATED. AND OF COURSE, BY 2029, IF WE ARE ABOVE THE MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL, WE WILL HAVE TO NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO
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PROBABLY RECEIVE A DRINKING WATER VIOLATION. BUT I DO NOT SEE THAT WE'RE STARTING EARLY FOR A REASON. SO I'M ABLE TO FINANCIALLY PAY FOR IT, RETROFIT THE PLANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THIS CRITICAL DEADLINE. SO OUR ACTION PLAN IS MEETING THE DEADLINE OF 2027 AND 2029. I AM CONFIDENT PFAS HAS BEEN ON MY RADAR FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO DEFINITELY WE ARE PLANNING FOR THAT. WE EVEN KNOW EXACTLY WE'RE JUST GOING TO CHANGE THE FILTRATION SYSTEM AT THE PLANT.SO WE'RE CREATING A INFORMATION CAMPAIGN FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BROCHURES, VIDEOS, BILL INSERTS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO DISCUSS PFAS IN THE WATER SYSTEM. AND AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS OF RETROFITTING OUR CURRENT WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE IT FROM OUR SYSTEM. SO WHAT CAN RESIDENTS DO? LIMIT THE USE OF PFAS PRODUCTS? READ ALL LABELS BEFORE YOU CONSUME OR USE. STAY INFORMED BY READING THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY CITY BROCHURES, VIDEOS, BILL INSERTS AND ATTEND THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE HAVE COMPLETED TWO QUARTERS, SO I ONLY HAVE SIX MONTHS OF DRINKING WATER DATA. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE YEARS OF CONSISTENT. AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE YEARS OF CONSISTENT DATA, BECAUSE THE WATER IS EVER CHANGING. DROUGHT CONDITIONS, WHATEVER TYPE OF MANUFACTURING OR INDUSTRIAL FACILITY, WHATEVER THEY'RE MANUFACTURING PER DAY, IS GOING TO CHANGE. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE WATER. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT. THANK YOU. THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS MY IMMEDIATE CONCERN OF AN UNFUNDED MANDATE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE PROVIDING MONEY FOR US TO RETROFIT OUR WATER PLANT. WHAT'S THE PROBABILITY OF THAT HAPPENING? I THINK PROMISING I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO APPLY. I'M REALLY AGGRESSIVE AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH APPLYING FOR FEDERAL FUNDING. BUT IN THIS CASE, IF I DON'T, IT TAKES TIME. SO SOMETIMES WE APPLY AND WE MAY NOT RECEIVE THE MONEY FOR A YEAR. I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT I KEEP OUR ENGINEERING STUDIES AND ALL OF OUR RECORDS, AND MAYBE WE CAN APPLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT. SO THE SECOND QUESTION IS POLY FLORAL.
ALKALINE IS A VERY SMALL. WHAT TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN DEVELOPED TO EVEN FILTRATE OR TO FILTER A CERTAIN TYPE OF CARBON FILTER THAT WILL TRAP. YEAH, THEY TRAP IT. SO THAT'S THE THING. THEY THEY'RE HEAT RESISTANT AND THEY DON'T REALLY BREAK DOWN. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE A LIKE CARBON TYPE COLD TYPE FILTERING SYSTEM TO REMOVE IT FROM THE PLANT. SO WE WILL BE PLACING IT EITHER AT THE PLANT AND ALSO AT THE INTAKE AT SWEETWATER. NOW THE GOOD THING IS THE NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING THEM PRETTY MUCH FROM OUR SYSTEM. BUT AGAIN, WITH SIX MONTHS OF DATA, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH HOW WATER TREATMENT GOES JUST BECAUSE WE SEE IT ONE TIME, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A VIOLATION. THEY GO OFF OF AVERAGES. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE REQUIRED TO GET THREE YEARS OF AVERAGES TO DETERMINE WHAT IS IN THE WATER. AND THEN AGAIN IN OUR DRINKING WATER QUALITY REPORT I WOULD PUT THAT IN THERE. SO RESIDENTS KNOW DO WE RECEIVE ANY OF THE RUNOFF WATER FROM THE AIRPORT? NO. OKAY. NO, NO. SO KEEP IN MIND OUR DRINKING WATER SUPPLY IS NOT IN FULTON COUNTY. OUR WATER COMES 22 MILES FROM DOUGLAS COUNTY. OKAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT THOROUGH PRESENTATION ON P5 AND BEING AHEAD OF THIS. THE AS YOU SAID, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE. WE KNEW IT WAS ON THE HORIZON. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE COUNTRY THAT THIS IS A NATIONAL ISSUE.
THIS IS NOT JUST AN EAST POINT ISSUE. THIS IS IMPACTING CITIES ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. AND SOME DID MORE DISPROPORTIONATELY THAN WITH US. SOME PEOPLE ARE FEELING IT ALREADY. AND WHEN WE WHEN SENATOR OSSOFF WAS HERE AND ANNOUNCED THE 15 MILLION IN THE WATER DRINKING ACT THAT HE WAS INTRODUCING, WE TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT WE THINK WE WOULD NEED TO RETROFIT OUR PLANT, WHICH IS ABOUT $2 MILLION. AND SO WE STARTED HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT ROUND OR TWO OF CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME FUNDING. OUR FEDERAL SENATORS AND CONGRESSWOMAN WILLIAMS HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND PROVIDING FUNDING OVER PROBABLY ABOUT 4 MILLION AT THIS POINT FOR DIFFERENT OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'VE PUT IT OUT THERE AND HAVE STARTED MAKING THE ASK AND INDICATING THAT THIS IS AN
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ISSUE AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT. AND I CAN TELL YOU, 2 MILLION IS SUBSTANTIALLY LIKE NOT AS HIGH AS A LOT OF OTHER PLACES WHO ARE LIKE DIRECTLY BY SOME OF THESE SOURCES. AND ARE DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES RIGHT NOW. BUT AGAIN, THE IT'S NOT JUST EAST POINT, IT'S NOT JUST OUR WATER SOURCE. THIS IS A NATIONAL ISSU. THREE YEARS OF TESTING IS REQUIRED. AND THEN WITHIN FIVE YEARS, A SOLUTION HAS TO BE IN PLACE. BUT OUR WATER AND SEWER DIRECTOR IS AHEAD OF THIS AND WILL LIKELY PROBABLY HAVE OUR PLANT RETROFITTED AGAIN. KNOCK ON WOOD. BUT WE'VE HAD GREAT SUPPORT WITH OUR FEDERAL DELEGATION THROUGH CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING AND OTHER GRANTS. THE IS IT THE WATER, THE WATERKEEPERS, THE. YEAH, IT'S SEVERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE. THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE. YEAH. THERE ARE LOANS AVAILABLE. SO RIGHT NOW OUR ESTIMATE IS BETWEEN 2 AND 2.5 MILLION JUST TO RETROFIT THE PLANT JUST FOR PFAS. ALL RIGHT I THINK THIS WAS JUST INFORMATION FOR US. AND WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE STARTING THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON A VIDEO I'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT WE JUST HAVE TO JUST PUT SOME. I WANT TO PUT THINGS TAILORED SPECIFICALLY TO EACH POINT IN THERE. I ALSO WANT TO PUT IN SOME INFORMATION OR RECOMMENDATION FROM EPA. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING SOME FILTERS BE USED, BUT I NEED TO HAVE THAT IN WRITING. I DON'T REALLY WANT RESIDENTS TO INSTALL FILTERS BECAUSE THEY CAN CHANGE THE COMPOSITION OF THE WATER. ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT ABOUT A WATER, A WOMAN DRINKING WATER AND HER. IT WAS BURNING HER MOUTH. WHEN WE WENT IN HER HOUSE, SHE PUT FILTERS IN IT AND IT WAS CHANGING THE WATER AND IT'S MAKING IT MORE ACIDIC. SO RIGHT NOW, THE BROCHURES, IT'S GOING TO BE EPA RECOMMENDATION. WE NEED TO SEE HOW THEY'RE CERTIFYING THOSE FILTERS BEFORE WE PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE. BUT THAT'S THE GOAL. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WITH BASIC INFORMATION, AND I'M ABOUT 50% COMPLETE WITH THE VIDEOS AND THE BILL INSERTS.WHAT I CAN DO IS DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION. AND THEN BEFORE WE PUT THAT OUT THERE. BUT THE GOAL IS TO HAVE EVERYTHING AVAILABLE TO BE TRANSPARENT AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND DEFINITELY MEETING THAT THREE YEAR TIMELINE. TARGET IN MY SERVICE ON THE EPA'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WHEN WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT P PFAS, THE THING I CONTINUE TO RAISE IS THERE NEEDS TO BE A NATIONAL COMMUNICATION CAMPAIGN. THIS IS NOT A MUNICIPAL ISSUE. THIS IS A FEDERAL ISSUE. AND NOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS FINALLY LOOKING TO REGULATE PFAS WHILE KNOWING THAT IT EXISTED AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONSISTENT, COORDINATED CAMPAIGN THAT STARTS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. THE EXAMPLE I USE IN THOSE MEETINGS IS WHEN FORMER FIRST LADY REAGAN WAS IN OFFICE AROUND THIS. THIS IS DRUGS, THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS. THE JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS CAMPAIGN, RIGHT? LIKE SO. WE NEED SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR PFAS BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY HUGE ISSUE. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BEING AHEAD OF IT. STAYING ON TOP OF IT. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER, SOME LAWSUITS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED WHERE AGAIN, THERE'S LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, THOSE WHAT IS IT, FOAM FIRE FOAM COMPANIES THAT ARE CLEARLY POLLUTING THE WATER SOURCE. AND SO THOSE ARE MORE DIRECT LAWSUITS. LAWSUITS HAVE BEEN FILED. I THINK THERE'S A IN THE METRO REGION, METRO ATLANTA REGION RECENTLY AROUND WHAT POTENTIAL LAWSUITS MAY BE AVAILABLE. I MEAN, THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD EXPLORE, BUT LAWSUITS TAKE YEARS GENERALLY, ESPECIALLY THINGS LIKE THIS. SO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE HAVE MULTIPLE STRATEGIES OPERATING AT THE SAME TIME. I AGAIN COMMEND YOU ON THAT. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THIS OVERVIEW. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE PRIOR TO INFORMATION BEING SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND I GUESS THE FULL THE DETAILS OF THE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INFORMATION PLAN THAT YOU'LL HAVE AND THEN AGAIN, WE NEED TO JUST KEEP ASKING FOR FUNDING THROUGH CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING GRANTS OR ANY OTHER RESOURCES TO CONTINUE TO GET AHEAD OF THIS, BECAUSE ONCE IT IS, IT GOES THROUGH THE COURSE AND THE CYCLE LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WATER NEEDING TO BE CLEANED. AND SO THE MORE WE CAN BE AHEAD OF THA,
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THE BETTER. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER ROAD REPAVING PLAN. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE CORDELL COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? MORGAN. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CORDELL HALL, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION DIVISION MANAGER, AND I'M HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER MAY HAVE REGARDING OUR PROCESS FOR PAVING THE STREETS. THANK YOU.THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO DO TWO THINGS IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY, WE MUST START TO QUANTIFY OUR DATA AND HAVE MEASURING POINTS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO APPLY THAT TO OUR ROAD REPAVING. AND SO I WANT US TO COME UP WITH A 12 TO 24 MONTH PLAN OF ROAD REPAVING. NOW, DO YOU HAVE THE DATA REGARDING WHEN YOU CAME TO US LAST? YOU SAID THAT EACH ROAD GETS A SCORE.
YES. DO YOU HAVE THAT DATA IN TERMS OF SCORING AND HAVE YOU SCORED ALL THE ROADS? SO YES SIR. WE THE LAST WHAT WE CALL PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS WHERE WE HAVE A CONSULTANT COME THROUGH AND DRIVE EVERY STREET IN THE CITY. THEY USE CAMERAS AND VARIOUS OTHER TECHNOLOGIES TO SCORE ALL THE STREETS FROM 0 TO 100. WE CALL IT PCI, WHICH IS PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. OUR LAST ONE WAS 2020 TO 2021 THAT WE COMPLETED. WE HAVE THAT DATA FOR EVERY STREET IN THE CITY AND THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING. I ACTUALLY WORKED WITH IT JUST TODAY TO TRY TO GET THAT ONLINE AND AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE. BUT YEAH, OUR LAST ONE WAS 20 TO 21 AND THEY'RE GENERALLY DONE EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO COUNCIL, WHAT I WANT US TO CONSIDER IS THE FOLLOWING. TO HAVE A 12 TO 24 MONTH REPAVING PLAN. SO IN THAT PLAN WE WANT TO ONE QUANTIFY THE DATA WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO START TO CREATE A STREET MATRIX. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONE SAY FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL USE MY OWN STREET DUKE OF GLOUCESTER. SO DUKE OF GLOUCESTER HAS A SCORE OF AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THE PCI SCORE IS. IT'S 1 TO 10 OR IT'S 0 TO 100. SO 0 TO 150, 60, 70 DIFFERENT SCORES. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS SO EVERY STREET IS SCORED, BUT ALSO IN OUR DECISIONS TO REPAVE STREETS. THEN IN ADDITION TO THE QUALITY OF THE STREET, THERE SHOULD BE SOME OTHER VARIABLES THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN THE MIX. ALSO. ONE IS EQUITY, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN TREAT ALL WARDS EQUALLY. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ONE WARD THAT'S GET MORE THAN ANOTHER WARD. ANOTHER THING WE MUST CONSIDER IS BECAUSE LAST TIME YOU SPOKE SOME ROADS MAY GET A MINOR TREATMENT WHICH WILL HELP PROLONG THEM, WHILE OTHER ROADS WILL GET MAJOR REPAVING.
SO WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DO IN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS IS ONE. HAVE THIS SCORE COME UP WITH THE MATRIX TWO. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PUBLISH IT SO PEOPLE CAN GO ONLINE, LOOK AT THEIR STREETS, AND THREE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SAY, OH, YOUR STREET HAS A SCORE OF X, Y, Z, BUT NOT THIS PCI SCORE, BUT IT WOULD BE A TOTAL SCORE THAT YOU GUYS COME UP WITH. AND THIS IS YOURS. YOUR STREET IS SCHEDULED TO BE REPAVED IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT US TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE. AND WHEN PEOPLE ASK US ABOUT OUR STREETS, WE CAN SAY HERE, GO TO EAST POINT CITY.ORG, BACKSLASH STREET REPAVING, PUT IN THE NAME OF THEIR STREET AND IT TELLS THE SCORE AND IT TELLS THE APPROXIMATE PAVING DATE. AND SO I WOULD LIKE WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO START TO WORK ON QUANTIFYING THIS DATA AND COMING UP WITH SOME MATRICES SO THAT WE CAN START TO REALLY AND I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO TOO, IN THAT MATRIX IS WHAT IS THE COST OF REPAIR? HOW OLD IS THE STREET WHEN THE LAST TIME IT WAS REPAIRED, THE CONDITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STREETS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN REPAVED SINCE 1960. YEAH. AND SO IS THAT POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO LOOKING AT LOOKING AT I'M LOOKING AT MR. CADDELL AND I WANT TO KNOW, DOES HE UNDERSTAND? YES. WHAT'S BEING
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OKAY? I UNDERSTAND WITH THE DATA WE HAVE AND ALONG WITH PUT TOGETHER A MORE TRANSPARENT PLAN FOR OUR SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM GOAL OF REPAVING THE STREETS. IT TAKES SOME EFFORT, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. I THINK. I THINK WE THINK IN THE SAME THOUGHT. WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON THAT, PUTTING TOGETHER LIKE A TWO YEAR PAVEMENT PLAN ALREADY IN HOUSE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY CAN WORK ON PUTTING TOGETHER. SO HOW LONG DO YOU NEED FROM US, THE COUNCIL, TO HOW CAN WE START TO MAKE SOME MILESTONES TO LIKE? I THINK THE FIRST MILESTONE WOULD BE IS OKAY COMING UP WITH THIS MATRIX. ALRIGHT, SO DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE YOU GUYS TWO, SIX, 12 MONTHS IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH AN ACCURATE MATRIX THAT WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN FROM THAT MATRIX THEN YOU CAN START TO GRADE THOSE STREETS. BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS REALLY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED GOAL, HAVE A DEADLINE FOR THAT GOAL TO BE PRESENTED. AND THEN FOR THOSE. SO WE START WITH THE MATRIX. SO WE SAY WE HAVE THAT DONE IN SIX MONTHS. BY THE END OF 12 MONTHS WE KNOW WHAT EVERY STREET IS GRADED BY 24 MONTHS OR 18 MONTHS. WE CAN SAY HERE, YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR STREET NAME AND IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU A APPROXIMATE DATE WHEN YOUR STREET WILL BE REPAID. SO THE STUDY THAT WE DID SORT OF DONE COMPLETED THAT FOR US. SO IT HAS THE RATINGS. IT HAS THE STREET CLASSIFICATION, WHETHER IT'S LIKE A MAJOR ROAD, A RESIDENTIAL STREET, IT HAS OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE BUILT INTO IT, BUT IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MUCH INFORMATION TO JUST TO HAVE. SO WE'D LIKE TO, TO YOUR POINT, TO HAVE A MORE GENERALIZED DATA FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON DOING TO MAKE THAT MORE DIGESTIBLE FOR PUBLIC. SO WITH THE COUNCIL'S PERMISSION, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED BEFORE WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRST STEP IN THIS PROGRAM, WE CAN COME BACK IN A MONTH AND LET'S NOT BE AMBITIOUS. NO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS COMING TO US ON MONDAY, THE LAST TIME THAT MR. REEVES WAS HERE, HE SAID PUBLIC WORKS WAS COMING TO US ON THE WORK SESSION IN THIS MONTH WITH INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THAT. S, I MEAN, WE HAVE INFORMATION, BUT IN THE IN THE FORM OF WHAT COUNCILMAN BUTLER WAS ASKING FOR, I MEAN, WE CAN COME BACK AND SPEAK ON IT, BUT TO TAKE WHAT HE'S REQUESTING AND PUT IT INTO A DIFFERENT FORMAT, I WILL PROBABLY NEED SOME MORE TIME TO DO. COUNCILMAN, I'M SORRY I SAID, ARE YOU DONE? NO, NO. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS I DON'T WANT TO BE AMBITIOUS. OKAY, SO THE FIRST MILESTONE IS COMING UP WITH THE MATRIX. OKAY. DO YOU THINK SO? IT'S TWO MONTHS ADEQUATE OR DO YOU NEED THREE BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING 30 DAYS, BUT I DON'T WANT IT. UNDERSTAND? I THINK THAT WOULD BE DOABLE AND FAIR FOR US TO REALLY GET SOME MORE INPUT FROM YOU ON EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND HOW WE WANT TO DISPLAY THAT. LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE DATA AVAILABLE JUST TO GET INTO A MORE GRAPHICAL FORMAT FOR THE PUBLIC. WILL NEED SOME TIME TO WORK OUT THE GIS, AND IT. SO I THINK TWO MONTHS WOULD BE DOABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M DONE.THANK YOU. MAYOR MARTIN WRITERS, AND THANK YOU. AND WHAT I WANTED TO ASK WAS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY HAVE A STUDY DONE. YES. SO ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS DISAGGREGATE THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE PRESENTATION. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE STUDY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, HAS THAT BEEN CITY WIDE? YES. ALL OF THE STREETS IN THE CITY. OKAY. WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT TO ADD TO THAT IS WHEN YOU COME BACK, COULD YOU PLEASE COME BACK WITH ALL OF THE PROJECTS? IN A WAY, I THINK LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER SAID, FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO KNOW, BECAUSE WILLIAMSBURG, I'M GETTING READY TO SEND YOU ALL AN EMAIL NOW FOR THE FALL FOLLOW UP ABOUT THIS HEAT PUMPS, BUT ALSO WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND WHEN YOU ARE DOING IT. OKAY, I THINK THAT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE THAT I KNOW I'M LOOKING FOR YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES I SEND AN EMAIL, THEN IT SAYS OKAY, THE FALL. BUT WHEN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BROUGHT BACK AS A PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE. SO PERFECT. AND THEN MAYBE A TIMELINE OF WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO TACKLE THOSE PROJECTS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBE.
ZIEGLER, COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE AND COUNCIL MEMBER. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS
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CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY LIGHTS. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE COMING BACK WITH THE. AND I THINK SHE MAY HAVE ALREADY JUST KIND OF MENTIONED IT JUST PRETTY MUCH A SOME SORT OF A CALENDAR. YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DATES FOR THOSE STREETS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE REPAVED, SPEED CALMING DEVICES OR WHATEVER. BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING, I KNOW FOR COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF THEY INPUT THEIR STREET, IT SHOULD BE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEIR STREET IS GOING TO BE REPAVED OR WHATEVER. AND I JUST THINK SO FOR THAT, YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO PUT, PUT TOGETHER SOME SORT OF DATABASE OR SOME, SOME SORT OF PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN PUT EVERY STREET IN THERE. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE AND THAT'S A LOT. SO I THINK IF BECAUSE I CAN JUST SAY I WENT, IT'S GOING TO BE REPAVED AND IT THERE'S NO, NO TIME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REPAVE THAT STREET. SO I THINK MAYBE JUST A SUGGESTION EVERY PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE OKAY. IF THAT'S LISTED AS OPPOSED TO I MEAN I GET PLUGGING IN THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU. OKAY. SO JUST A SUGGESTION. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I JUST I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO FOR YOU TO EVEN FOR IT TO EVEN SPIT OUT THE DATA, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN PUT IN. SO THAT'S JUST PRETTY MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIST EVERY STREET THAT'S IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WORK IS PUT IN THERE. BUT IF THERE'S A LIST OF ALL THE PROJECTS AND THEN MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE TO THE SIDE THAT SAYS WHERE IT MAY BE RESIDENT, THAT THAT'S REQUESTING THAT THEIR STREET BE REPAVED, OR MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN, THEY CAN PUT IT THERE. AND THEN FROM THERE YOU GO AND YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND POSSIBLY ADD IT INTO THE MESH OF ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT ALL THE OTHER STREET PROJECTS, ROAD PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. SO JUST A SUGGESTION. I YIELD COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER. OH YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL OKAY, THANK YOU. AND SO DID YOU SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU 30 DAYS TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF THE STREETS THAT NEED TO BE REPAVED IN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS. SO WE HAVE FROM THE STUDY, WE HAVE A LOT OF THE DATA, AND WE HAVE A PROPOSED LIST. BUT I THINK COUNCILWOMAN BUTLER WAS ASKING FOR A WAY FOR A FORMAT FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW IT. SO WE WERE TO COME BACK WITH THAT DATA IN A MORE USABLE FORMAT. OKAY. BUT IT IT IS ON THE WEBSITE ALREADY, RIGHT? WELL, JUST I JUST CONTACTED IT TODAY TO GET THAT ON TO THE WEBSITE. WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE PAGE FOR TRANSPORTATION, BUT AT LEAST WHEN THEY GET THAT DATA FOR THE PUBLIC. SO I'LL FOLLOW UP AFTER THIS MEETING TO CONFIRM. OKAY. BUT WE DO HAVE A GIS MAP ON THE WEBSITE ALREADY, AND IT ALREADY HAS THE GRADES OF EVERY STREET ON THERE. YES, IT'S A IT'S A PDF FORMAT OF A HUGE MAP, BUT IT'S NOT IN A GIS FORMAT LIKE A GOOGLE MAPS OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SCROLL INTO AND CLICK ON OR DO ANYTHING WITH IT. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE 30 DAYS FOR YOU TO DO IS TO HAVE THE GIS MAP CREATED. THAT CAN BE DONE DEPENDING ON OUR STAFF'S AVAILABILITY TO HELP PUT IT IN THAT FORMAT. BUT TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION INTO IT FOR EACH STREET MAY TAKE SOME TIME. EDITING. YEAH, DAD. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE THAT INVOLVES ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND SO WHAT MR. CADDELL IS SAYING HE WILL REFER THAT TO IT AND IT WILL. WE HAVE A GIS MISSION THERE SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT. WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THE DATE. EXACTLY. ON WHEN WE CAN HAVE THAT GIS. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE 30 DAYS. SO TO THAT POINT TO COORDINATE WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, GETTING THE INFORMATION IN THE GIS, GETTING IT INTO A FORMAT THAT'S USABLE, GETTING INFORMATION IN IT, YOU KNOW THAT FOR EVERYONE TO VIEW MAY TAKE SOME TIME ALONG WITH OUR OTHER EFFORTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. OKAY. AND EVERY YEAR YOU YOU COME UP WITH A LIST ALREADY, RIGHT? SO YOU ALREADY HAVE A LIST FOR 2024. SO WE'RE RUNNING ON KIND OF A BACKLOG FROM A PAVEMENT KIND OF SLOWED DOWN OVER THE PREVIOUS YEARS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO IN AN EFFORT TO CATCH THAT UP, HAS TO GET LIKE A MULTIYEAR LIST, WHICH IS ABOUT 70 OR 80 ROADS IN THE CITY THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER NOW. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS ON WHAT STREETS WE PLAN ON PAVING. OKAY, SO I, I, I HAD EMAILED YOU ALL ON SEPTEMBER 11TH TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION ON MONDAY. SO I WAS HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST AND LIKE TALK ABOUT THE BACKLOG BECAUSE THERE[01:35:02]
ARE A NUMBER OF STREETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REPAVED FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WHENEVER I GO TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, I HEAR MY STREET HAS NOT BEEN REPAVED SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE, AND I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS, SO I JUST WANTED TO. WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WITH THAT ON ON MONDAY THAT DELAYS COMING. WE HAVE A CONSULTANT WHO'S WORKING ON THAT. THEY'RE KIND OF BEHIND ON THE DELIVERABLE TO US. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM BACK ON TRACK. SO WE CAN GET THE STREET LIST BACK AVAILABLE TO YOU ALL AS WELL. I'M SORRY. SO WHAT WHAT IS THE CONSULTANT DO. SO DO WE GIVE THEM A PROPOSED LIST OF STREETS AND KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO PAVE BASED ON THE STUDY? YOU KNOW, THAT RECOMMENDED METHOD OF REPAIRING. BUT WE HAVE TO GET ALL THE QUANTITIES AND EVERYTHING TOGETHER. HOW HOW BIG IS THE STREET? HOW LONG, HOW MUCH THICKNESS DO WE NEED TO REPLACE THE STORM DRAIN? DO WE NEED TO REPLACE THE CURB? YOU KNOW, ADA RAMPS ALL THESE THINGS THAT HAVE TO GO INTO WHEN WE'RE PAVING THE STREET. IT'S NOT JUST PAVING THE ROAD. SO THEY'RE GOING AND DOING THE FIELD WORK FOR US, PUTTING TOGETHER THE ACTUAL PLAN FOR US TO BID OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. AND HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO REPAVE ALL THE STREETS THAT ARE IN THE BACKLOG? THIS IS THIS IS ANTICIPATED TO BE ABOUT TWO YEAR PLAN FOR A TWO YEAR, MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. SO IT'LL BE MULTIPLE YEAR PROJECT INSTEAD OF US PUTTING TOGETHER A SMALLER LIST JUST FOR ONE YEAR. THIS ONE, I ALREADY HAVE IT IN PLACE, AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP AND HOPEFULLY PUT OUT ANOTHER LIST TO CONTINUE PAVING THE STREETS ANNUALLY. INSTEAD OF HAVING THESE GAPS, WHICH WE HAD AND SOME OF THESE PREVIOUS YEAR.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. WE'LL WE'LL DISCUSS THIS ON MONDAY TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE SO THE PLAN OR WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING BACK IS PUTTING SOMETHING PUTTING A LIST ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE OF THE STREETS POSSIBLY THAT NEEDS TO BE PAVED OR WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SELECTED IS WHAT I'M HEARING. WE CAN BRING THAT PROPOSED LIST BACK TO YOU ALL FOR THE DISCUSSION PRIOR TO PUTTING IT ON THE WEBSITE, SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT. OKAY, SO HERE'S MY QUESTION. ARE THOSE STREETS THAT THE CITY IS BEHIND ON? ARE THOSE THE STREETS THAT ARE A PART OF T-SPLOST? YES.
OKAY. OKAY. SO THEN THAT SO YOU ALREADY HAVE A LIST OF ROADS THAT NEED TO BE PAVED. AND YOU BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LAY OUT IS THE TIME FRAME OF WHEN THESE ROADS, THE ESTIMATED TIME FRAME AS TO WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED. I THINK IT WILL BE A LITTLE HARD TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETE AT THIS TIME, CONSIDERING WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF GETTING ANYTHING UNDER CONTRACT OR ANYTHING. BUT THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL. ONCE WE HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS IN PLACE, THEN WE CAN KIND OF LAY OUT A TIME FRAME FOR WHEN THEY CAN BE PAVE. OKAY, OKAY, SO THOSE ARE THE ROADS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ROADS THAT'S ON THE EDGE. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEN ASIDE FROM THAT IS THE ROADS THAT THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST THAT YOU ALL MAY DO ON A SMALLER SCALE.
IF I'M. SO I WANT TO BRING BACK TO MONDAY'S DISCUSSION THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE GETTING BASICALLY DESIGNED NOW BY CONSULTING OKAY TO REVIEW THE UPCOMING LIST THAT WE HAVE. YES. THE T-SPLOST. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. EXCUSE ME. YES, YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THIS IS A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT AS YOU GUYS ARE SURVEYING THE ROADS, DO YOU HAVE A SIMILAR KIND OF PROGRAM THAT SURVEYS TREES? NO, NOT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT, FROM PUBLIC WORKS. WE DON'T SURVEY ANY TREES. WHAT DEPARTMENT I GUESS WOULD THAT GO THROUGH OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? THE EAST POINT POWER DOES THE TREE MAINTENANCE. EAST POINT POWER OKAY. BUT HOW WOULD YOU SAY THIS AS WE TRY TO AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS MONEY FROM, YOU KNOW, THE MILLAGE RATE. I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT I KNOW WE USED TO CONTRACT OUT OUR TREE CUTTING AND TRIMMING, AND I BELIEVE THE COST WAS ABOUT 300,000 350,000 TO BUY A TRUCK THAT CUTS FROM 60 TO 90FT. AND I WAS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THIS MONEY, JUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WE ACTUALLY BUY THE TREE TRUCK AND KIND OF START A PROGRAM LIKE THAT, IF POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE POWER OUTAGES HAVE BEEN A THING, AND THAT'S MAYBE A PROGRAM WE
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CAN HAVE RUNNING ALL YEAR. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I YOU YEAH. THIS CONVERSATION IS VERY DEJA VU OF ASK MR. REEVES SEVERAL TIMES WHEN HE'S COME BEFORE US FOR SIMILAR INFORMATION. WE HAVE T-SPLOST HOW MANY YEARS IS T-SPLOST FIVE YEARS? YES. FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT PRIOR TO IT GETTING APPROVED ON THE BALLOT. WE HAVE LMG LOCAL MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT GRANTS. THE STUDY HAS BEEN DONE AND IT'S BEEN USED FOR DECADES TO DETERMINE THE ROADS. AND ALTHOUGH WE'VE ASKED FOR INFORMATION AND ALSO ON THE WEBSITE THERE USED TO BE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED. AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET AN UPDATE ON MONDAY. AND HERE WE ARE TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS. I THINK A LOT OF THE INFORMATION IS BEING REQUESTED. WE ALREADY HAVE. WE ALREADY HAVE THE STUDY. ALL THE ROADS ARE ALREADY RATED. IF YOU PUT AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET ONLINE, YOU CAN TYPE IN A NAME AND SEARCH IT. CONTROL US. SO LIKE WHEN ARE WE REALLY GOING TO GET AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE DIRECTOR. MR. REEVES ISN'T HERE TONIGHT. BUT WHEN ARE WE REALLY GOING TO GET. I WAS OPTIMISTIC THAT MONDAY WE'D BE GETTING SOME INFORMATION THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY ADDRESS A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS AND HAVE SOME LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP AND PLAN FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED SEVERAL TIMES. SO YOU'RE NOT THE DIRECTOR, SO I WON'T POSE IT TO YOU. MR. BROWN IS HERE, BUT THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY. SO, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON WHAT YOU'RE SHARING NOW, I'M NOT REALLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE'LL BE GETTING, BUT I MY ASSUMPTION WAS THAT WE'RE STARTING WITH THE GRADING AND THE RATINGS AND THAT THOSE ARE DECISIONS YOU'RE MAKING AS WE DECIDE HOW TO PRIORITIZE. AND YES, WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL FACTORS AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO REPRIORITIZE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE BASELINE INFORMATION ALREADY. WE SHOULD HAVE BASELINE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN USE TO DECIDE, OKAY, HERE'S HOW WE THIS THIS IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO. AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO TAKE 60 DAYS TO GET THAT. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE GET ON MONDAY IN THE WORK SESSION, A REPAVEMENT PLAN LIKE YOU ALL HAVE TO PLAN OUT THESE PROJECTS FOR YEARS. YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT PROJECTS ARE IN THE WORKS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S EVERY STREET IN THE CITY, AND HOW THAT WHAT LIKE WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM FOR THAT.I MEAN, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE A BASELINE. WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE INFORMATION. SO I DON'T KNOW. YOU SAID THE YOU SENT THEM THE REPORT, THE GRADING REPORT TO PUT ONLINE OR YOU SEND IT TO US TO PUT ONLINE.
OKAY. SO THAT'LL BE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS SECTION. YES. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT BY MONDAY. WHAT ELSE. WHAT OTHER INFORMATION ARE YOU ANTICIPATING BRINGING ON THE WHOLE. HAVE THE FULL LIST FOR EVERY STREET HAVE THAT ONLINE ALL THE FROM THE ACTUAL STUDY AND STUDY ONLINE AND THEN COME TO YOU WITH THE PROPOSED LIST THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT OUT FOR, FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THIS YEAR, THIS FALL. SO OKAY, SO WE'LL KNOW ON MONDAY WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE PLANNING TO BRING QUITE A BIT AND WHEN WILL THE INFORMATION THE DIFFERENT LIKE T-SPLOST, LMG, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS EL CIRCLE LIKE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WHEN WILL THEY BE ONLINE AGAIN? BECAUSE I REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO Y'ALL USED TO HAVE THAT YOU CAN GO ON AND LIKE IT'LL SHOW YOU LIKE THE PROJECTS AND THEN YOU CAN CLICK IT AND LIKE GET INFORMATION ABOUT LIKE THE STAGES IN HOW MUCH IT COST AND LIKE ALL OF THAT STUFF. SO THAT PAGE WE HAD FOR I THINK IT WAS CITY WORKS AT SOME POINT. SAY WHAT? WHAT WAS IT. CITY WORKS I THINK YEAH, I THINK I THINK IT, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE EXPIRED OR WOULD NO LONGER BE USING IT CITYWIDE. SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO THAT ANYMORE. WE ARE UPDATING FULTON COUNTY SOCRATA SYSTEM, WHICH WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE AS OUR OWN, WHICH HAS IT ALL THE SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. SO OKAY, SO THE FULTON COUNTY CAN BE SIMILAR, WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE CITY WORK. YES. BUT THEN IT'LL JUST BE TIED INTO THE FULL SYSTEM.
YES, A FULL COUNTY SYSTEM. OKAY. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT PROGRAM? SOCRATA. SOCRATA. OH, SOCRATA. I HAVE HEARD OF THAT. SO THAT'S THEIR REPORTING SYSTEM. SO WE HAVE TO INPUT OUR INFORMATION INTO THAT SYSTEM. OH, AND SO THERE'S FULTON COUNTY HAS A WEBSITE THAT WE CAN DIRECT PEOPLE TO THAT WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION. YES. OH OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN BUTLER. ANYTHING ELSE? WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON MONDAY FROM PUBLIC WORKS. YES, I DO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. GO AHEAD. I THINK THE COUNCIL IS MISSING
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WHAT I'M TRYING TO CONVEY. AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS IN ORDER TO MAKE CITY GOVERNMENT MORE EFFICIENT AND TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FAIRLY. I THINK THAT WHAT'S BEEN REQUESTED IS SOME GAPS IN WHAT'S BEEN REQUESTED FOR MONDAY AND WHAT I'M PROPOSING WE DO WHAT I'M ASKING HIM TO DO THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS IS COME UP WITH A FARE MATRIX OF HOW WE SCORE AND GRADE AND DETERMINE WHAT THESE STREETS AND HOW YOU REPAY THEM, NOT WHAT HE HAS HISTORICALLY. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR US TO DO IS NOT ONLY WE CONSIDER THE QUANTITY, THE QUALITY OF REPAIR, BUT ALSO THE COST OF REPAIR, THE STEPS AND CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN WHAT A PERSON WOULD PUT IN IN THE DATA IS THEY WOULD PUT IN DUKE OF GLOUCESTER. YOU WOULD HAVE IS SCHEDULED TO BE DONE FIRST QUARTER 2026. AND IN THAT IT CAN SAY ENGINEERING DONE IN JANUARY 2026. ROAD CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN MARCH 2026 AND THEN HAVE A SIX MONTH GAP IN THERE. I THINK WHAT WE DO AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF THIS IF WE PUT UNFAIR EXPECTATIONS ON STAFF AND DON'T DELIVER ON THE UNFAIR EXPECTATIONS, THEN EVERYBODY FEELS BAD ABOUT THAT SITUATION. STAFF FEELS BAD, COUNCIL FEELS BAD, NOBODY'S FEELING. AND SO RIGHT NOW WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING IS YES, WE HAVE A SCORE. BUT IN ORDER TO ADEQUATELY COMMUNICATE TO OUR RESIDENTS, WHEN IS YOUR STREET GOING TO GET PAVED? BECAUSE EVERYBODY JUST WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR STREET. IF WE HAVE ALL OF THE STREETS, EVERY ONE OF THEM, AND THEN WE HAVE A SCORE, YOUR STREET IS A 100 OR WHATEVER THAT SCORE IS, AND BASED UPON THE LIFE OF THAT STREET, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN IN SERVICE, OUR EQUITY MODELS, YOUR STREET MAY NOT BE PAVED UNTIL 2026 OR 2027, WHEREAS YOU HAVE SOME STREETS LIKE WASHINGTON ROAD THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO BE PAVED AFTER CONSTRUCTION. BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT THE WEAR OF THE STREET, BUT IT'S ALSO THE USE OF THE STREET. HOW OFTEN IS IT USED? AND THEN ALSO WE CAN HAVE IN THAT MATRIX, OH, WHERE YOUR STREET IS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT FILL IN THE CRACKS FROM THE SPIDER WEBS. AND THEN THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL 60 MONTHS OR SO OF LIFE OR WHATEVER. SO WHAT I'M ASKING TO DO IN THIS PRESENTATION IS DESIGNED TO HELP US THINK A STEP FORWARD, AND HOW WE QUANTIFY THAT. AND GIVEN STAFF A ENOUGH TIME, EVEN WITH COUNCIL'S INPUT AS TO HOW DO WE ANTICIPATE THE COST OF REPAIR? BECAUSE THOSE ARE PROJECTIONS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE MADE ALSO WITH ECONOMICS AND FINANCE. AND IF IT'S IN 2026, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION, ALL OF THESE THINGS. BECAUSE CHOOSING WHICH ROAD TO REPAVE MAY ALSO BE A FUNCTION OF DOLLARS AND CENTS. ONE OF THE CRITIQUES I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD THE ONLY ROLES THAT ARE BEING REPAVED ARE T-SPLOST ROADS. SO WE DO HAVE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND EVERY YEAR FOR ROAD PROJECTS, BUT THOSE TO BE COMPLETED TO. SO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE START TO DEVELOP THIS METRIC IS, WELL, WHY IS THIS NOT DONE? WHY IS IT TAKEN L STREET SO LONG AND SO BUT NOW THAT WE'RE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THESE THINGS BY PUTTING THESE DIFFERENT INPUTS IN THERE, THEN WE CAN ESTABLISH REALISTIC TARGET DATES AND THEN WE CAN ALSO HAVE VICTORY DATES. THIS IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED IN THIRD QUARTER OF 2025. AND THEN HERE'S THE VICTORY DATE. SO THEN PEOPLE CAN SAY, OH THIS IS WHAT WHEN IT WAS DONE. SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR A LIST AND DEMANDING WHEN A ROAD PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DONE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE TAKE ANOTHER STEP FORWARD AND TO REALLY START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO REPAVING A ROAD OTHER THAN THE CONCRETE, BECAUSE THERE THERE HAS TO BE THE ENGINEERING WORK HAS TO BE DONE.ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND SO WHAT I ASK THAT YOU GUYS DO ON MONDAY IN THE WORK SESSION, START TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE INPUTS THAT COULD BE NEEDED IN DOING THAT. SO THIS IS BEYOND JUST AN UPDATE ON ON THE ROAD. SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT.
SO YES, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE DATA THAT CORDELL AND THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS HAVE. BUT WHAT I'M
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ASKING US TO DO IS TO EXTEND THAT DATA SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME REALISTIC MILESTONES SO WE CAN START TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC SOMETHING REALISTIC. SO I CAN TELL SIR HENRY, WELL, BASED UPON OUR BUDGET, YOUR THE SCORE OF YOUR STREET, YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO GET REPAVED UNTIL 2025 OR 2026. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR EVERY STREET. SO THEN THAT WAY THE RESIDENTS CAN HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE AND WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY COMMUNICATE THAT. AND THEN THAT'S WHY WE GET HEARTBURN ON THE COUNCIL SIDE BECAUSE WE GO TO STAFF. I DON'T THINK WE ARE ALLOWING THEM ALL THE INFORMATION OR THEY'RE NOT. THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND I'M SAYING HERE'S WHAT I SEE THE GAP AND I'M ASKING FOR THIS FOR COUNCIL PEOPLE. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING TO ADD INTO THIS, THEN WE CAN START AND THEN WE CAN START TO DO THIS IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. IF WE REALLY START TO QUANTIFY, SET REALISTIC DATES, AND THEN WE CAN HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE WITHOUT THERE BEING HEARTBURN. SO I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT DIFFERENCE TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK MISS CUMMINGS ASKED ABOUT TIMELINE. BUT YEAH. SO THE MATRIX INCLUDES A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HIS STUDY THAT HE ALREADY HAS. YOU KNOW, LAKESIDE PRESERVE IS ASKING FOR STREETS. THEIR STREETS TO BE REPAVED, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY 20 YEARS OLD.BUT THEN YOU HAVE OTHER STREETS THAT ARE 40, 50 YEARS OLD. SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY AND BE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY COMMUNICATE TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THESE CONCERNS.
AND THEN I THINK IF WE DO THIS, THEN WE CAN BECOME MORE EFFICIENT IN HOW WE DO THESE ROADS RECONSTRUCTION, AND WE CAN START TO IF YOU HAVE A LIST OF ROADS AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO HIT SO MANY ROADS IN THIS YEAR BASED ON YOUR METRICS, THEN WE CAN START TO BUDGET FOR THOSE THINGS, AND WE CAN START TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. AND THEN THAT GOES OVER INTO OUR PROCUREMENT WHERE THEY'RE OUT THERE ALREADY HAVE THE BID. AND I KNOW BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024 WE NEED TO HAVE BIDS IN FOR ALL OF THESE STREETS THAT DOES THAT DO DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YES, SIR. I'M SORRY. YEAH. AND SO I HOPE THAT ADDS INFORMATION TO WHAT THE COUNCIL IS THINKING TOO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, WHEN MY STREET IS GOING TO BE PAVED AND I KNOW YOU GOT THIS DONE, IT'S MORE THAN THAT. AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS PRESENTATION IS TO ADD THE MORE.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALL SAYING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY. WE NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT ABSTRACT AND GET THE INFORMATION WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THIS STARTS SOUNDING LIKE WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF OPERATIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED A CITY MANAGER, A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO MONDAY. WHAT YOU ALL PROVIDE SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHAT OUR BASELINE IS, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE ABOUT THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL ACTUALLY GET IT ON MONDAY AND WE CAN SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE FROM A GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE. AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER SOON AND THEY'LL PROVIDE SOME LEADERSHIP AND BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD THESE STRATEGIC PLANS THAT SHOULD COME FROM OPERATIONS AROUND HOW WE DO THINGS, AND WE CAN PROVIDE INPUT INTO THAT. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON MONDAY. THANK YOU.
NEXT UP IS HURRICANE HELENE. RELIEF ASSISTANCE. AND SO THIS IS A MONTH WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING FOR TWO WEEKS. USUALLY THERE'S ONLY ONE WEEK IN BETWEEN OUR MEETINGS. AND SO ALTHOUGH HURRICANE HELENE HAPPENED I BELIEVE ABOUT MAYBE 11 DAYS AGO, I'VE TALKED WITH I REACHED OUT TO GMA, GEORGIA MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY HAD SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE STATE ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO LET FOR CITIES TO LET THEM KNOW IF THEY NEEDED ASSISTANCE OR IF THERE WERE CITIES THAT WANTED TO ASSIST. AND SO IN RESPONSE TO REACHING OUT TO THEM, THEY MENTIONED AUGUSTA AND DOUGLAS, AND I TALKED WITH THE MAYOR OF VALDOSTA AS WELL AS AND THEY PERRY ALSO CAME UP. SO WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IS FROM I WASN'T ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE MAYOR OF PERRY. I REACHED OUT TO HIM. BUT WHAT GMA SHARED IS THAT DOUGLAS, GEORGIA NEEDS TARPS. BUT WHEN I SPOKE WITH MAYOR PAULK TODAY, HE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE LINE WITH A FEDERAL LEGISLATOR. SO MAYBE THEY'LL BE GETTING THAT FROM THEM. BUT THAT
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WAS AND HE AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CONVERSATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LIST IS. WHEN I TALKED TO VALDOSTA MAYOR MATHESON SCOTT MATHESON, HE INDICATED THAT INITIALLY IT WAS FOOD AND WATER, BUT THEY REALLY WERE TAKING WELL CARE OF WITH THAT AT THIS POINT. FOR THEM, IT'S CLEANUP. AND SO THEY HAD A LOT OF DAMAGE. THERE IS A COMPANY THAT HAS A SIZABLE CONTRACT TO PICK UP THE DEBRIS, BUT THEY ARE WORKING WITH SAMARITAN'S PLUS AS THE ORGANIZATION TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH RESIDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, CHOP UP TREES, CLEAN UP, CLEAN UP THE DEBRIS TO A POINT THAT IT CAN BE PICKED UP. AND SO RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND WORK ORDERS, AND THEY ANTICIPATE THAT THEY THAT WILL GET UP TO 1700 OR MORE. AND SO HE SUGGESTED SHARING THE SAMARITAN'S PLUS INFORMATION. AND THEY DO HAVE A WEBSITE. AND IF YOU GO ON THERE, THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED ABOUT PERRY. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT SITES OR PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, CITIES THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, PERRY, GEORGIA AND VALDOSTA, GEORGIA ARE THERE AS IT RELATES TO AUGUSTA. I SPOKE WITH MAYOR GARNETT JOHNSON, AND HE SHARED THAT THEIR WATER SYSTEM HAS BEEN RESTORED. THEY'RE ABOUT THEY'RE AT ABOUT 90% OF POWER BEING RESTORED, BUT THAT THEY NEED THINGS LIKE DIAPERS AND BABY FORMULA, BABY WIPES LIKE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO HE IS GOING TO SEND TO ME A LIST OF ITEMS THAT THEY NEED, AS WELL AS NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH SO THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY OR THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER DOING A DRIVE, AS WE'VE DONE FOR OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS, TO PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT TO CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I ALSO SPOKE WITH IG BECAUSE IG IS PUT HAS PUT OUT A CALL FOR ASSISTANCE IN PREPARATION OF HURRICANE MILTON, WHICH IS NOW COMING. I SPOKE WITH AMAZON AND BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES THAT HELPED COORDINATE ACTUALLY GETTING THE ITEMS TO THE LOCATIONS THE LAST TIME AROUND, LOGISTICS, AND THEY HAVE SUSPENDED EFFORTS FOR THIS WEEK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GEARING UP FOR MILTON. BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER, GET SOME SUPPORT WITH THEM AROUND GETTING THE ITEMS LOGISTICALLY TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS AUGUSTA, THAT WE KNOW OF WHO'S GOING TO SEND US A LIST OF ITEMS THAT I THINK ARE THE TYPE THAT WE'VE DONE DRIVES FOR BEFORE, WHERE FOR RESIDENTS AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP BE A PART OF PROVIDING ASSISTANCE. VALDOSTA AND PERRY IS SAMARITAN'S PURSE, AND PEOPLE CAN GO ONLINE TO INDICATE IF THEY WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR THEM. IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE CLEANUP. AND THEN I STILL NEED TO HEAR BACK FROM DOUGLAS. AND THEN WHAT WE ALSO KNOW IS THAT HURRICANE MILTON IS NOW A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE AND IS EXPECTED TO HIT MAKE LANDFALL WEDNESDAY MORNING AROUND 9 A.M, AND IT IS EXPECTED TO BE IN FLORIDA. I DON'T KNOW, DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PATH IS RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE MAY ALSO BE AS WE GET THROUGH THIS, SOME SOME NEEDS AROUND THAT. AND SO WITH THE SUSPENSION OF I GUESS, LOGISTICS RIGHT NOW UNTIL AFTER HURRICANE MILTON, WE COULD CONSIDER DOING AS WE'VE DONE BEFORE, HAVING A DRIVE MAYBE THIS SATURDAY TO GET PEOPLE TO COME AND JUST IF THEY WANT TO DONATE, WE HAVE A CENTRAL LOCATION WHERE THEY CAN BRING THEIR ITEMS. WE'LL GET THE LIST FROM THE MAYOR OF AUGUSTA TOMORROW. I ALSO FOLLOW BACK UP WITH DOUGLAS AGAIN. WHEN I REACHED OUT TO GMA, THEY SAID THEY REALLY HADN'T HEARD MUCH FROM MANY OTHER CITIES AND SO THAT'S HOW I'M COMING UP WITH THE LIST OF CITIES AS IT RELATES TO WHO MAY STILL BE IN NEED. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ON MONDAY AT THE WORK SESSION TO SEE IF ONE THERE'S ADDITIONAL NEEDS FROM HURRICANE MILTON. AND TWO, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE INFORMATION FROM AMAZON THAN AROUND LOGISTICS, COORDINATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN DECIDE HOW OR IF PREVIOUSLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS COUNCIL HAS APPROVED A MOTION TO HAVE A RELIEF DRIVE STAFF COORDINATES IT. WE'VE HAD WHAT ARE THOSE TRUCKS CALLED LIKE U-HAUL TRUCKS THAT PEOPLE CAN COME AND PROVIDE ITEMS TO? I KNOW SATURDAY WILL BE AT THE JEFFERSON PARK REC CENTER FOR[02:00:09]
THE HEALTHY POINT MIND, BODY AND SOULFUL CIRCUIT SATURDAY. I THINK LOGISTICALLY, THOUGH, WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF DONE THEM HERE AT CITY HALL FOR LIKE GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OUT AND SO IF WE I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL TONIGHT FOR US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND AGAIN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN ON MONDAY. IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S NEED AROUND HURRICANE MILTON AGAIN, IG IS ASKING CITIES IF THEY THEIR ELECTRIC DEPARTMENTS WILL BE WILLING TO SEND SOME PEOPLE TO FLORIDA OR TO WHERE YOU KNOW, WHERE THE NEED IS AS IT RELATES TO POWER RESTORATION. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE GEORGIA IS PRETTY MUCH RESTORED. GEORGIA POWER HAS A LOT OF THESE CUSTOMERS, BUT IG HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND THEY ARE. GEORGIA POWER IS NO LONGER IS NOT ASKING LIKE IG OR ME. ASK CITIES FOR SUPPORT SO THEY FEEL THEY HAVE THE HURRICANE HELENE UNDER UNDER UNDER UNDER CONTROL. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. SO THE ACT SO THE ASK IS TO GO AHEAD ON AND PUT IT IN PLACE. SO WHEN YOU GET THE LIST THEY'LL ALREADY KNOW. SO STAFF CAN GO AHEAD ON BECAUSE USUALLY STAFF GO AHEAD ON GET THE TRUCK AND THE PLACE IS USUALLY THE DROP OFF IS LIKE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN THAT PARKING LOT. EASY TO GET IN, EASY TO TURN AROUND AND COME BACK OUT. SO IS THAT THE ASK OR THE MOTION. YEAH. SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, IF THERE'S A MOTION TO HAVE A RELIEF, HURRICANE RELIEF DRIVE AND ALLOW STAFF TO COORDINATE THE EFFORTS FOR THAT DRIVE, BECAUSE ONCE WE GET THE INFORMATION, WE'LL KNOW WHAT INFORMATION TO PUT ON THE FLIER ABOUT THE TYPES OF ITEMS THEY NEED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THAT DIRECTIVE TONIGHT SO THAT THEY CAN WORK ON IT WAS SO MOVED. SECOND, I THERE WAS A LOT OF TALKING. SO THE MOTION IS TO HAVE IT WAS THE FIRST PART, I SAID TO HAVE THE HURRICANE RELIEF DRIVE AND HAVE STAFF COORDINATE IT. OKAY. THAT'S THE MOTION. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY BUSINESSES IN WARD D THAT WANT TO DONATE. SO DO I PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF OR SHOULD I? SO I THINK ONCE WE GET THE FLIER, IF PEOPLE, WE CAN SHARE IT WITH ALL OF OUR CONTACTS AND NETWORK LIKE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO, I MEAN, YOU COULD SHARE IT WITH STAFF AS WELL, BUT LIKE ONCE WE HAVE A FLIER DESIGNED BY STAFF, WE CAN SHARE THAT OUT THROUGH OUR DISTRIBUTION PERSON, INDIVIDUAL PERSON OF INDIVIDUAL DISTRIBUTION CHANNELS AS WELL AS THROUGH THE CITY. THANK YOU.COUNCIL MEMBER I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. SO IS THIS STRICTLY DONATIONS OR IS THIS IS THERE A BUDGETED ITEM OR HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK. SO THERE IS A STAFF TIME TO IT, RIGHT? SO THE STAFF COORDINATING AND BEING THERE, I THINK WE USED TO DO THEM FOR WHAT LIKE THREE HOURS OR SOMETHING. THEY SET THE TIME ON SATURDAY RIGHT FOR THE JOB. SO THEIR STAFF FOR THAT THERE'S A U-HAUL TRUCK, RIGHT. THAT WE WOULD GET. SO I THINK FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S THAT MAYOR GARNETT JOHNSON AND AUGUSTA ALSO INDICATED THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH SOME NONPROFITS. AND I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE DID ONE, PEOPLE WANTED SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO PROVIDE FUNDING, PROVIDE MONEY. AND SO HE'S ALSO GOING TO SHARE WITH ME MAYBE THE NONPROFIT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, IF PEOPLE WANT TO PROVIDE FUNDS INSTEAD OF MAYBE ITEMS, SO WE CAN SOLICIT THOSE TYPE OF DONATIONS AND OKAY, YEAH. SO ONCE HE GIVES US THE TRUST THAT ORGANIZATION, RIGHT, THAT PEOPLE COULD DONATE TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ABSTAIN. OKAY. NEXT UP, BOARDS AND WE'LL DO ROLL CALL. I'M SORRY. WE HAD.
AND FOR CLARIFICATION, MAYOR, THIS WILL BE ON THIS SATURDAY. UPCOMING I MEAN OR JUST A FUTURE DATE. I THINK WE I SATURDAY IS IDEAL, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOCK IN THE MOTION AND IN THE EVENT THAT THEY DECIDE TO DO A FRIDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE. WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO IT'S OKAY. GOT IT.
OKAY. YEAH. SATURDAY IS GENERALLY WORK BETTER, BUT FOR STAFF TO COORDINATE, ORGANIZE AND COORDINATE A HURRICANE RELIEF DRIVE. GOT IT. OKAY. START AND ROLL CALL. COUNCIL
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MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER LEE. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER.CUMMINGS IS NOT IN THE ROOM. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER AND COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN ROGERS. EXCUSE ME. THE MOTION PASSED. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. AND I HAD THIS ITEM PLACED ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THEIR MEETING OR ALL OF OUR BOARDS MEETING IN PERSON, OR ARE THEY STILL ON ZOOM? NO, I THINK I THINK THERE ARE. THERE'S ONE BOARD IN PARTICULAR I THINK THAT IS MEETING VIRTUALLY. THAT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THEY'RE STILL MEETING VIRTUAL WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS IN PERSON AND HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME? I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FOLLOW UP, THOUGH. SO WHAT DO WE DO? BECAUSE IF WE'RE MEETING IN PERSON AND ALL THE OTHER BOARDS ARE MEETING IN PERSON, THEN THEY NEED TO COME BACK AND MEET IN PERSON. JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT ALL BOARDS BE PRESENT. OKAY, THAT'S THE CITY ATTORNEY. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN AS ATTORNEY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRIOR TO EVEN TAKING THIS ROLE, I KNOW THAT WELL, WHEN I DID COME ON, THEY WERE VIRTUAL. I GUESS THAT WAS PROBABLY DURING THE IT WAS COVI.
YEAH, DURING THE PANDEMIC. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. AND THEY HAD NOT RETURNED. I DID REACH OUT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME UP. MAYBE IT'S THE FIRST TIME IT'S COME UP AMONGST THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT I DID REACH OUT TO KRISTEN SETTELMEYER, WHO IS OVER AT THE AG'S OFFICE, JUST TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT SOME PROVISIONS OF TITLE 50, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT SUPPORTED OR DIDN'T SUPPORT RIGHT? WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMISSION COULD MEET IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY AS THEY'RE DOING. I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM HER, BUT CERTAINLY I THINK, MR. HOWARD, MR. BROWN IS CORRECT THAT IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THIS BOARD, A MOTION COULD BE MADE.
THE SECTION OF 50 DASH 14 ONE, WHICH I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION WAS RELYING ON. IF YOU JUST GIVE ME ONE MINUTE. THERE'S A SUBSECTION IN HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHEN MEETINGS CAN BE HELD VIRTUALLY, WHICH WAS CHANGED DURING OR RIGHT AFTER THE PANDEMIC OR THE STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS LIFTED. SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION. I'M SURPRISED I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THE AG'S OFFICE. THEY'RE USUALLY MORE RESPONSIVE, SO JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN WITH THAT INSIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST THINK THAT IN IN ALL FAIRNESS, IF EVERY OTHER BOARD IS MEETING IN PERSON AS AS WELL AS COUNCIL, THEN SURELY PLANNING AND ZONING CAN MEET IN PERSON AS WELL.
THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY STIPULATIONS OR THEY SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENT WHERE THEY'RE STILL CONTINUING TO BE ON ZOOM AND EVERY OTHER BOARD IS MEETING IN PERSON. SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO HAVE ALL BOARDS COME BACK AND MEET IN PERSON. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. MR. BROWN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YOU'RE LIKE, NO, NO, NO, MADAM COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, I WANTED TO KNOW. I UNDERSTAND BEING OFFLINE DUE TO PREVIOUSLY WHAT WHAT WE AS A WORLD DEALT WITH. BUT HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN OFFLINE? NOT OFFLINE, BUT NOT IN PERSON AND MEETING VIA ZOOM. HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN MEETING? I KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN. BRAD WAS STILL HERE WHEN MR. BOWMAN WAS STILL HERE. I'M NOT. I'M NOT SURE OF THE YEAR, BUT THAT'S WHEN I CAME ON BOARD. IT WAS WHEN MR. BOWMAN WAS HERE. SO, I MEAN, COVID WAS, WHAT, 2020? SO THEY'VE BEEN VIRTUAL FOR FOUR YEARS NOW? YEAH, I WOULD GUESS SO. FOUR AND A HALF. THEY HAVEN'T THEY HAVEN'T GONE BACK SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IS WHAT I'M SAYING. ALRIGHT. SO THAT THAT HAD TO BE 21 OR END OF 20, I JUST DON'T
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REMEMBER WHICH YEAR. AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS I GUESS I CAN ASK, I'LL ASK YOU OFFLINE WITH MY NEXT QUESTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. MAYOR, MAY I JUST RESPOND? SO IF THE YOU KNOW, THEY MEET ON SECOND AND THIRD THURSDAYS. YEAH. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADVERTISED FOR A VIRTUAL, IT'S LIKELY THE SECOND, MAYBE THIRD. I'M NOT SURE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED. IF YOU IF IT'S THE WILL OF THIS BOARD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING SINCE THEY WOULD BE CHANGING THE VENUE, WOULD THEY. SO WHAT ABOUT NOT RE ADVERTISING FOR A SPECIAL CALL MEETING? BUT THE THIRD MEETING IS IT I MEAN IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO RE-ADVERTISE TO HAVE THE THIRD, THE SECOND MEETING IN PERSON. YEAH. SO YES. SO USUALLY I THINK MISS SMITH ADVERTISES LIKE A MONTH IN ADVANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S HERE. SO YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING FROM A ZONING ORDINANCE PERSPECTIVE, LIKE THE, THE TIME PERIOD IN WHICH WE HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE, RIGHT, WHICH IS 15 TO 45 DAYS, 15 TO 45 DAYS. AND SO WE ARE PROBABLY CLOSE TO A 15 IF THEY TRIED TO REDO IT, MAYBE ON WEDNESDAY, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I THINK TO THE SOONER THE BETTER. RIGHT. SO IF THERE'S IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE ONE COMING UP NEXT WEEK, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT POSSIBLE FOR THAT ONE, DEPENDING ON HOW OFTEN THE PAPER RUNS AND HOW SOON YOU HAVE TO GET THE AD RIGHT, IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE THIRD THURSDAY, SO I THINK THE GOAL IS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BUT DEFINITELY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. AND IF WE CAN'T RE-ADVERTISE, THEN THAT MEANS IT'S NOVEMBER. BUT IF WE CAN RE ADVERTISE FOR THE SECOND ONE, IT'S OCTOBER. ALRIGHTY. COMMITTEE REPORTS H.R IS PLANNING A MEETING FOR OCTOBER. I THINK BUDGET AND FINANCE MEETS ON THE 15TH. AND YEAH, ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WANTS TO REPORT FROM EITHER OF THE COMMITTEES? NEXT UP IS ADOPTION OF COUNCIL AGEND.[VIII. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]
CAN I GET A MOTION? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. AND THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRINTED.SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL. MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 16TH REGULAR MEETING OF. I THINK WE MADE A MISTAKE. I SAID APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRINTED. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADOPTION. OF THE AGENDA. I THINK IT'S AMAZING. YEAH, IT'S THE SAME. IT'S THE SAME OUTCOME. OKAY, OKAY. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES FOR THE
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SEPTEMBER 16TH REGULAR MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL. IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL. MANY MEETINGS FROM OCTOBER FROM SEPTEMBER THE 16TH.SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. COME ON, Y'ALL, WE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION
[X. PUBLIC HEARING]
CARRIES. NEXT UP PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE RATE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU COULD READ THE RULES BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP. RULE 29 PROVIDES PUBLIC HEARING RULES. PUBLIC HEARINGS SHALL BE ADVERTISED AS PER ORDINANCE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBJECT WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE SUBJECT WILL THEN SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS MAY GIVE A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER. AFTER ALL OF THOSE PRESENT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, RESIDENTS WILL BE GIVEN FIRST PRIORITY TO SPEAK AFTER ALL, RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.NON RESIDENTS MAY SPEAK BY A MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR EACH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT TO A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES PER SIDE. EACH SIDE WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? A PUBLIC HEARING SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
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NOW OPEN. MR. BROWN, FINANCE STAFF? YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL HAVE MR. JACKSON AND MR. GOLDEN COME FORWARD AND WALK US THROUGH THE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING ON SETTING OF THE MILLAGE RATE.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 48 FIVE DASH 32 REQUIRES EACH LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY TO ANNUALLY PUBLISH THE ASSESSED VALUE OF ALL PROPERTY BY CLASS, AND IN TOTAL, THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE FOR THE LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY'S PURPOSES FOR THE CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR AND ASSESSED TAXABLE VALUES AND MILLAGE RATES FOR EACH OF THE IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING FIVE CALENDAR YEARS. THE ADVERTISEMENT MUST ALSO INDICATE THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN TOTAL DOLLAR INCREASE FOR EACH YEAR ADVERTISED. FOR OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 48 FIVE DASH 32.1 REQUIRES EACH LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY TO COMPLETE A ROLLBACK MILLAGE RAT. STATES ON THE SCREEN IS SHOWING THE CURRENT 2024 TAX DIGEST IN FIVE YEAR HISTORY OF LEVY, SHOWING EACH YEAR'S NET TAXES LEVIED. THE MILLAGE RATE THIS YEAR FISCAL YEAR 2425. REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TOTALS. $2,295,748,371. MOTOR VEHICLE TOTALS $4,052,630. MOBILE HOMES TOTAL $76,119. THAT GIVES US A GROSS TOTAL OF 2,000,000,299 $877,120 MINUS EXEMPTIONS, WHICH TOTALED. ONE $132,690,908. GIVES US A NET. OF $2,167,186,212. WE ARE PROPOSING A MILLAGE RATE OF 13 WITH THAT. THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US A NET TAX LEVY OF $28,173,421, AN INCREASE OF TWO $2,409,970, A 9.35% INCREASE. THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE IS 12, HAS BEEN CALCULATED AT 12, AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO SET IT AT 13, WHICH GIVES US AN INCREASE OF OVER THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE OF 8.33. ON THE SCREEN NOW SHOWS OUR MILLAGE RATE PRESENTATIONS FROM JANUARY OF 2015 THROUGH JANUARY OF 2024. AS YOU CAN SEE, 20 1516 AND 17. WE'RE STEADY AT 15 MILLS. WE DROPPED TO 13.89 IN JANUARY OF 2018 AND 2019 AND 2013 .45. WE DROPPED AGAIN TO IN JANUARY OF 21 OF 13.25. IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN AT 13 MILLS AND PROPOSING 13 MILLS. THIS YEAR. AND IT ALSO THIS THIS SLIDE ALSO SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES, THE NET TAXES LEVIED FOR EACH YEAR FROM A LOW IN 2015, OF 11,956,688.
AND THIS YEAR. AND THIS YEAR. 28,173,421. UP ON THE SCREEN NOW SHOWS THE PROPOSED THE 2023 A HOME VALUE WITH THE WITH A VALUE OF 400,000 WAS ASSESSED AT MINUS THE 2000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $158,000, AND THE MILLAGE RATE OF 13. THAT TAXES ON THAT PROPERTY WAS $2,054, WITH THE 8.33% INCREASE, A 24 HOME WOULD GO TO $433,320. THE ASSESSED VALUE, MINUS THE $2,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WOULD THEN BE $171,328, AT THE 13% AT THE 13 MILLAGE RATE. THAT THEN COMES
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THE TAXES OF $2,227 AND 26 CENT. THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $173.26. AND PER MONTH. THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $14.44 PER DAY, $0.47 A $300,000 HOME LAST YEAR. ASSESSED VALUE OF 118 WITH THE HOMESTEAD, THE TAXES WERE $1,534 THIS YEAR. THAT SAME HOME WITH AN 8.33% INCREASE IN VALUE, IS AT $324,990. THAT ASSESSED VALUE OF THAT HOME, MINUS THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, IS THEN $127,996, AND THE MILL RATE OF 13. THAT MAKES THE TAXES FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY $1,663.95. AN INCREASE OF $129.95. AND THAT INCREASE WOULD THEN BE SPREAD OUT OVER 12 MONTHS AT 10.83 PER MONTH, $10.83 PER MONTH PER DAY, 36 CENT SANTA. IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, IT WAS ASKED WHAT THE SURPLUS FUNDS WERE GOING TO BE USED FOR. WE HEARD WITH THE MEDICAL BENEFITS EQUALING ABOUT 833,000, THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE WAS AT 1.9 94,000. IT DROPPED TO 89,000. SO WHAT WE FIGURED OUT WITH THE SURPLUS THAT WE CAN USE THESE FUNDS FOR IS TO PAY FOR THE MEDICAL BENEFITS. AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE SECOND PHASE OF THE COMPENSATION STUDY. AND WE'RE ESTIMATING THE COMPENSATION STUDY BETWEEN 1.5 AND 2 MILLION.THE AMOUNT THAT THE SALARY IS GOING TO BE. YES, MA'AM. THE QUESTION IS THAT IT. THAT'S THE YEAH. THAT'S THE END OF WHAT WE HAD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE, COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. I NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 2025 PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE. MADAM MAYOR. YES, A MOTION THAT WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE 13 MILLS. I DIDN'T SEE THE 19,960 FOR DENTAL AS IT RELATES TO HEALTH CARE. ANY LIGHTS RIGHT NOW. SO THERE WAS 833,000 FOR MEDICAL AND THAT NUMBER IS ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESENTATION 833,841. THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE WAS 89,400 AND THE DENTAL IS 19,960. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND. YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. I WANTED TO DIG INTO THE SURPLUS FIGURE THAT YOU HAD OF THE FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BASED ON THE SECOND HALF OF THE COMPENSATION STUDY. WHAT IS THAT GROUNDED IN THAT? THE 1.5 MILLION TO 2 MILLION FOR THE YOU HAVE IT HERE FUND THE SECOND PHASE OF THE COMPENSATION STUDY. BUT YOU MEAN THE WHATEVER THE OUTCOMES ARE OF THAT. WHAT IS THAT? DO WE KNOW THAT FOR SURE? NO WE DON'T. WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT IT WILL. FOR THE FIRST PHASE, WE SPENT ABOUT IT'S ABOUT 750,000, A LITTLE BIT AROUND THAT, AROUND THAT. THAT'S THE
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ESTIMATE THAT THAT WAS THE AMOUNT. SO WE'RE THINKING THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN BETWEEN 1.5 AND 2 FOR THIS PHASE OF THE STUDY. BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT SURE YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE, IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASE OF THAT. IS THIS A BALLPARK OR IS THIS IT'S A BALLPARK? YES. OKAY.THANK YOU. IF THE 100% IS COVERED FOR MEDICAL, THAT'S $943,201. SO THAT WOULD ONLY LEAVE. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I JUST DID 2.4 MILLION, LIKE 1,456,000 ABOUT 800. SO THAT RANGE, IF COUNCIL IS PRIORITIZING HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, THEY'LL THE FUNDING THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE WILL BE ON THE LOWER END. IF WE DO 100%, DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT WE BUDGETED? OH. COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I JUST KIND OF JUST WENT OVER JUST THE NUMBERS THAT THEY SORT OF PUT UP. SO WITH THE ADDITIONAL MONEY, THE REVENUE THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THE PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS 2,000,409 970 AND THE COST THAT THEY GAVE US FOR THE INSURANCE, IT WAS 833 EIGHT. THIS IS IF WE ABSORB ALL THE COSTS. 833. 841 FOR INSURANCE. 19,000. 960 FOR DENTAL. EIGHT 89,400 FOR THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. AND I JUST SAID, I KNOW HE SAID BETWEEN 1.5 AND 2 MILLION. I JUST SAID AT 1.75, JUST IN BETWEEN THERE. THAT GIVES US A TOTAL OF $2,000,693 AND 201 LESS. THE TWO 409 970, WHICH GAVE US A DIFFERENCE OF 283 231 AND YOU DID SAY THAT WE HAD WAS IT 320 THAT WAS THERE FROM WHEN THEY MADE THE CHANGE TO AETNA? NOW THAT THAT'S GONE, OKAY. SO IF THAT'S GONE AND JUST LISTING THOSE FIGURES THAT I JUST MENTIONED AND TAKING IT AT BETWEEN ONE, 1.5 AND 2 MILLION AT 1.75, THAT GIVES US A DEFICIT. 283 231 THAT'S IF WE ABSORB ALL THE COSTS OURSELVES.
SO JUST KIND OF SOME NUMBERS. SO WE SORT OF KNOW. RIGHT. SO WELL WHICH BALLPARK FIGURE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE. RIGHT. BUT WE DO KNOW WHAT THE KNOWN MEDICAL BENEFITS ARE. SO IF WE PRIORITIZE THE MEDICAL BENEFITS FIRST AND THEN WHEN THEY COME WITH THE STUDY, WE STILL CAN ALLOCATE THE REST OF THE FUNDS TO THE COMPENSATION STUDY. OKAY, WE DO HAVE OTHER REVENUES THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE USED FOR IT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY TAX. THE FUND, THE COMPENSATION STUDY. SO EACH FUND HAS ITS OWN SALARIES. THAT'S THAT'S ALLOCATED TO IT. SO PROPERTY TAX IS SIMPLY JUST FOR THE GENERAL FUND OKAY. SO YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT HAVE THEIR SHARE THAT HAVE TO BE PAID THROUGH THE REVENUES THAT THEY BRING IN. OKAY. WELL I WAS JUST SORT OF USING THE NUMBERS FROM WHAT WE HAD. IF WE JUST USE THE EXCESS MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE, FROM THE MILLAGE RATE, IF IT WAS AT 13%. SO I MEAN, 13, 13, 13%, WE HAVE FOR THE MILLAGE RATE. SO I WAS JUST KIND OF THROWING SOME NUMBERS OUT THERE. SO WE SORT OF HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE THING THAT'S SORT OF THE HEARTBURN WE'RE HAVING NOW. WE WANT TO DO IT. WE THINK WE CAN DO IT, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOOD, THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOOD WHEN WE DO IT. SO THAT'S MY FIVE MINUTE MATH ON WHAT I THOUGHT AT LEAST COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL THANK YOU. SO THIS KIND OF WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER. SO I WOULD BE WILLING, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THE MILITARY AT 13% IF IT COULD PRODUCE SOMETHING TANGIBLE. AND FOR EVERYBODY. SO EVEN IF WE TAKE ON THE FULL BRUNT OF THE MEDICAID PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES. I KNOW YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE WERE TO SPLIT THAT UP, I'M TRYING TO DO THE FIGURES NOW. BUT. TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD HELP EVERYBODY OUT. AND LIKE I SAID, IF WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW, INSURANCE PLANS AND THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SAVINGS, IT'S LIKE $12 A MONTH, $35 A MONTH. YOU KNOW, THIS AND A THIRD PER, YOU KNOW, PER INDIVIDUAL OR PER EMPLOYEE. THAT'S WHY I WANT US TO THINK ON OTHER THINGS WE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON. LIKE LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, LIKE A TREE TRUCK, WE CAN BUY A COUPLE TREE TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, WITH THE MONEY. AND THEN THE
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WHOLE CITY COULD BENEFIT FROM, YOU KNOW, US PATROLLING AND CUTTING DOWN DEAD TREES YEAR ROUND. THIS, THAT AND THE THIRD. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE THAT STAY HERE, THAT WOULD BENEFIT YOU. I THINK IN THE LONG RUN THAT WOULD SAVE THE CITY MONEY INSTEAD OF US CONTRACTING OUT THESE JOBS FOR $300,000 A POP. AND THEN I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, SO THE COMPENSATION STUDY AND THIS IS. SO IS THIS A STUDY TO SEE HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST FOR THE PAY RAISES, OR HAS THAT ALREADY BEEN DONE. THAT'S CORRECT. THIS CITY MANAGER BROWN CAN SPEAK TO THAT OR YES, YES, THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. OKAY. WHY IS IT COST. WHY IS IT. IT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THAT'S NEEDED TO KEEP. SO TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE PAY TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL THOSE RAISES. YES. GOTCHA. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S IT. OKAY. OKAY OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT YEAH, WHEN WE DO THE OTHER MONEY, I THINK IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BETTER SPENT. I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL ON YOU KNOW EVEN THE BENEFITS, YOU KNOW FROM FROM US TAKING ON THE FULL BRUNT. WE COULD BE DOING SOME OTHER THINGS WITH THAT MONEY. BUT YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES. THANK YOU. COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THE ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THE 25 FISCAL YEAR. AND WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT IS INCLUDED IN IT ALREADY. WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING THAT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL I, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALLOCATING MORE FUNDING TO TREE TRIMMING. BUT THE THAT COMES FROM AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND GENERALLY THE PROPERTY TAX SAVINGS OR IT GOES INTO STUFF ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE. SO I MEAN, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN I MEAN IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED. AND THEY TALKED ABOUT I THINK AN ARBORIST OR LIKE KIND OF BUILDING OUT THAT DEPARTMENT AND STUFF. SO I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT. BUT THAT'S JUST THE ONLY CAUTION AROUND THE USING THE PROPERTY TAX SAVINGS FOR THAT. SO GOING BACK TO THE COMPENSATION STUDY AND WHAT IS ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET, IT SAYS ON PAGE EIGHT AND ACTUALLY JUST DO LIKE A CONTROL F FOR THE WORD COMPENSATION. YOU'LL FIND THAT THE COMPENSATION STUDY IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. SO IS THAT THE THAT'S THE FIRST ONE, NOT THE SECOND PHASE. OKAY.YEAH. THE FIRST THE FIRST PHASE. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. THE FIRST PHASE. COUNCIL MEMBER.
ZIEGLER DEALT WITH EMPLOYEES THAT WERE 10% BELOW THE MARKET AND FOLKS THAT MADE UNDER $20 AN HOUR, AND THEY ONLY LOOKED AT 32 CLASSIFICATIONS. THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT ALL THE CLASSIFICATIONS IN THE CITY. AND MISS JESSIE, SHE COULD FURTHER EXPLAIN, IF IT'S NECESSARY. YES, MA'AM. THE REASON THIS IS A LOT HIGHER IS BECAUSE IT INCLUDES PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU HAVE POLICE AND FIRE INCLUDED IN THE SECOND PHASE IN THE FIRST PHASE, AS MR. INTERIM CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, IT INCLUDED PEOPLE AT THE LOWER LEVELS WHO DIDN'T EARN THAT MUCH TO START WITH. AND THEY WERE BROUGHT UP TO $20 AN HOUR. BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO EVERYBODY ELSE AND WE ESTIMATE THAT TO BE ABOUT 250 PEOPLE, YOU INCLUDE POLICE AND FIRE WHO OVER THE YEARS YOU'VE THE COUNCIL HAS INCREASED THEIR SALARIES PRETTY STEADILY. SO THAT'S WHY IF THEY'RE CONSIDERED AS A PART OF THIS STUDY, THEIR PAY WOULD BE HIGHE. HENCE WE WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY TO EXPENSE FOR THE TOTAL PAY PLAN. OKAY. SO THE COMPENSATION STUDY DOES THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE BUDGET ALREADY THAT IS IN REFERENCE TO THIS SECOND PHASE ONE OR PHASE ONE. THAT WAS EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST. OKAY. OKAY.
AND CAN WE GO OVER THIS A SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT MILLAGE RATES THAT ARE ON THE THAT ARE ON THE TABLE FOR TONIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT. IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT MILLAGE RATES
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YOU HAVE. I HAVEN'T WHAT WAS EXPRESSED TO ME WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE 13 MILLS. AND YOU ALSO WANTED TO KNOW WHAT 12.75 WOULD BE. OKAY. THERE WAS NO OTHER THAT WAS TOLD TO ME. BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE SLIDE. BUT I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. IF YOU WERE TO GO WITH. THE 12.75, YOU WILL BE LOOKING. AT $27,631,624, A DECREASE. OF $541,797. IF YOU GO, IT'S GOING TO GO FROM $28,173,421. IT WILL DECREASE WITH. 12.75 TO $27,631,624. IF YOU MULTIPLY THE MILLAGE RATE OF 12.75, YES, IF YOU MULTIPLY IT TIMES THE SAME NET OF. ONE 2,000,167,000 $186,212, IT'S GOING TO REDUCE IT BY THAT AMOUNT. REDUCE WHAT? BY WHAT AMOUNT IS GOING TO REDUCE THE NET LEVIED BY THAT AMOUNT. SO WHAT WOULD THE SURPLUS NUMBER BE AT 12.752 IT WOULD BE 27 MILLION. THE SURPLUS. OH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SURPLUS. BECAUSE WE KNOW THE OTHER ONES AT 2.4 OR SOMETHING. SO YOU JUST THE SURPLUS IT WOULD OKAY. IT WOULD BE AROUND 1901, 19. ABOUT 1,900,000. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE SURPLUS WITH 12.75 MILLS. YES YOU WOULD, BUT WE YOU. THAT'S ASSUMING THAT YOU COLLECTED 100%. BUT WE DON'. OKAY. THANKS. NO, SORRY ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION. IF WE LET'S SAY IF WE DO KEEP IT AT THE 13 MILLS, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO FUND THE INSURANCE AT THE AT THE COST THAT IT NEEDS. THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED ALONG WITH THE SECOND PHASE OF THE COMP, THE STUDY, IF YOU REDUCE IT TO THE 12, THEN YOU CAN'T FUND THE INSURANCE AT THE RECOMMENDED RATE. AND THEN YOU CAN'T DO THE STUDY. YOU YOU WILL HAVE A LOWER ALLOCATION. AND WITH AT 13 MILLS, WE YOU KNOW, WE BASE THE BUDGET OFF OF 13 MILLS. IF WE IF WE DROP IT TO 12.75, THERE MAY BE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT MAY BE THAT MAY COME UP THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND. OKAY. THANK YO. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO SAY FOR TO COUNCIL, THIS CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PAST, I'M GOING TO SAY SEVEN YEARS, BUT I'M GOING TO EVEN EXTEND IT WHEN JONQUIL PETERS WAS THE MAYOR AND SOME OF THE OTHER COLLEAGUES HERE ON COUNCIL WERE IN CITY COUNCIL FOR ABOUT A DECADE, THE CITY COUNCIL, UNDER THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE EXPERTS, HAVE REDUCED THE MILITARY IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY IN ORDER TO KEEP THE CITY FUNDED AND NOT REDUCE SERVICES. AND WE THERE WAS A CONCENTRATED EFFORT TO BE FINANCIALLY AND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN A WAY TO NOT REDUCE SERVICES, BUT BRING DOWN PROPERTY TAXES. WE CONSCIOUSLY REDUCED THE MILLAGE RATE WHEN THE APPRAISAL VALUES WENT UP. IF WE WANT TO REDUCE MILLAGE RATE, THEN I RECOMMEND WE GO ABOUT IT IN A WAY WHERE WE START TO PLAN[02:40:06]
OKAY, HOW DO WE REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE IN 36 MONTHS OR 48 MONTHS? A FIVE YEAR PLAN TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE, NOT BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BECAUSE WE AREN'T THE EXPERTS. THE STAFF IS THE EXPERTS. AND FINALLY, I DIDN'T HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THIS. BUT SOME OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND THE MAYOR HAD TO LIVE THROUGH IT WHEN WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO PAY OUR BILLS, WHEN WE HAD TO TAKE OUT WHAT THE MAYOR CALLED APPROPRIATELY, A PAYDAY LOAN TO PAY OUR BILLS. SO RIGHT NOW I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE FLUSH, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HISTORY, LOOK AT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE STAFF WHEN THEY GIVE US THEIR EXPERT OPINION THAT 13 IS THE MILLAGE RATE WHERE WE SHOULD BE.AND IF WE START TO LOOK AT IN BRINGING IN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, THEN WE CAN MAKE A STRATEGIC PLAN TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE, DECREASE INCOME FROM THAT AREA, BUT FIGURE OUT OTHER WAYS TO INCREASE INCOME THROUGH BUSINESSES AND FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS AN EXCELLENT JOB. AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, WE UNDERSTAND HOW DELICATE A PROCESS THIS IS AND HOW WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST HAVE HAD TO CUT SERVICES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BRING IN ENOUGH REVENUE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. MADAM MAYOR, I CALL FOR THE QUESTION AND I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION YE. WE GOTTA WAIVE THE FIRST READING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING? YEP. OKAY. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES THE SOME REASON THIS LAPTOP WON'T COME ON, BUT THE. I READ THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE AND THEN YOU ALL CAN MAKE THE DECISION ON THE MILLAGE RATE AMOUNT AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF EAST POINT, GEORGIA, PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A MILLAGE RATE FOR AN AD VALOREM TAX ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY FOR PURPOSES OF SUPPORT, MAINTENANCE AND EXPENSES OF THE CITY TO PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND OTHER PURPOSES. SO IT'LL BE A MOTION TO ADOPT THAT ORDINANCE WITH THE MILLAGE RATE AMOUNT. SO MOVED. NO, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T PUT IN THE YOU CAN SAY SO MOVED. BUT YOU GOT TO ADD A MILLAGE RATE. SO MOVE WITH THE MILLAGE RATE BEING AT THE RECOMMENDED 13. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED TO ADOPT. THIS IS THE 2024 MILLAGE RATE OF ORDINANCE OF AT 13 MILLS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHTY. NEXT UP IS WE NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER TWO FROM THE TABLE. MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER TWO FROM THE TABLE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES MOTION TO O IS REMOVED FROM THE TABLE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REOPEN IT. RIGHT? RIGHT. WE HAD A MOTION. JUST MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. YES, MADAM MAYOR, JUST A MOTION STILL CARRIED FROM BEFOR. NO, THE MOTION TO TABLE THE MOTION TO TABLE THE PREVIOUS MOTION. MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH COMPOSITION PLAN AT THE FIRST OPTION. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR. WITH THE CITY COVERING 100% OF THE INCREASE AND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER LEE. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS COUNCIL MEMBER.
MITCHELL COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, THE MOTION PASSES PUBLIC
[XI. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
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COMMENTS THIS EVENING. YES. WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. OKAY. CAN YOU CALL THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL HERE? I ACTUALLY SEE BOTH OF THEM. OKAY, PERFECT. CHAPTER TWO. SECTION 2-2002BB. RULE 28. THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A COMMENT FORM PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. SUBJECT MAY INCLUDE ANY SUBJECT OF A CHOICE. THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER. SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MAY GIVE ALL OR PART OF THEIR TIME, UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME.SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING. QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EAST POINT RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER.
SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITY SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE FOREGOING. MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU CAN CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER FIRST. WE HAVE MISS JACKIE GEORGE.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. EASTPOINTE MAYOR INGRAM AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO OFFER OUT A PRAYER AND MY SUPPORT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY HAVE HAD ANY FAMILY INJURIES TO HELENA, AND THAT MY PRAYERS ARE WITH ALL OF YOU AND THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE.
SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE FOLLOWING FOR MY REPLACEMENT OF MY FIRE HYDRANT ON 2357 RIDGECREST LANE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA. SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MISS FIRE CHIEF THORNTON, MISS EDMONDSON AND MISS ESTHER VERA. MR. RODRIGUEZ, SEE, I REMEMBER ALL THESE PEOPLE'S NAMES BECAUSE I MADE SURE I SPOKE TO THEM AND TOLD THEM, THANK YOU. SO MR. RODRIGUEZ AND HIS TEAM AND THE CREW THAT CAME OUT THAT ACTUALLY REMOVED AND PUT THE NEW FIRE HYDRANT IN. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THEM FOR THEIR HELP AND MISS ESTHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP, BUT MOSTLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILPERSON SHARON SHROPSHIRE.
SHE'S BEEN WITH ME FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THIS PROCESS, HAS BEEN FOR SOME YEARS, AND SHE HAS BEEN WITH ME, AND I WANT IT KNOWN THAT IT WAS COUNCIL. SHARON SHROPSHIRE THAT DID THIS FOR ME, NOT MR. FREHLEY. IT WAS SHARON THAT OFFERED ALL THE SERVICES AND STUCK WITH ME FROM BEGINNING TO END. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO THANK THE THANK SHARON FOR WAS ALL THE SUPPORT THAT SHE'S DONE FOR ME OVER THE PAST YEARS. I'VE BEEN AT EAST POINT FOR 40 YEARS PLUS. WHENEVER IT SNOWED, IF MY POWER WENT OUT, I COULD CALL HE. SHE TOOK CARE OF IT WHEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT OR ANYTHING, SHE TOOK CARE OF IT. RECENTLY, THE RECYCLE PEOPLE ON THE STREET, THEY DID NOT PICK UP ON OUR STREET FOR ONE WEEK. I CALLED AND TOLD HER ABOUT THAT. SHE GOT ON THAT. I ALSO CALLED THE RECYCLE, CALLED THE CITY OF EAST POINT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN PICKED UP, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE ON IT, THAT THEY HAD CONTACTED THE RECYCLE COMPANY, BUT THEY HAD NOT CONTACTED THEM BACK. BUT THAT SAME WEEK, OUR PARENT, WITH THE PRESSURE THAT EAST POINT PUT ON THEM, THEY DID COME BACK OUT THAT WEEK AND THEY GOT BACK ON SCHEDULE THE FOLLOWING WEEK FOR RECYCLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS SHROPSHIRE, FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. I THANK YOU FOR WINE DOWN WEDNESDAY. THAT GIVES PARENTS AND PERSONS LIKE ME AN OUTLET WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. IT'S AN OUTLET AND FOR A VERY SAFE AND SECURE ATMOSPHERE PRESENTED BY THE, YOU KNOW, CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT OF EAST POINT.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU ALL HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, BUT JUST LIKE YOU HEAR COMPLAINTS, I THINK YOU NEED TO ALSO BE COMMENDED ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. UP NEXT, WE HAVE APOSTLE.
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GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS APOSTLE. THIS IS MY PARTNER JOSHUA BOOKER. WE RESIDE AT 1905 NEELY AVENUE. OKAY. SO SINCE LAST SUMMER OF 2023, MY PARTNER AND I HAVE REGULARLY SHOPPED WITH PETSMART ON MARKETPLACE BOULEVARD HERE, AND WE HAD SPENT ABOUT $1,000 WITH THE COMPANY OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST YEAR ON OUR BEARDED DRAGON. THE ONE TIME I GO TO PETSMART WITHOUT MY PARTNER ON AUGUST SECOND, A PETSMART EMPLOYEE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED ME IN THE STORE WITHOUT MY CONSENT. THE EMPLOYEE CARESSED MY LEFT ARM AND LEFT C CUT BREAST. I'M TRANSGENDER. I HAVE LARGE C-CUP BREASTS. THESE. I'VE DEALT WITH THEM BEFORE IN LOS ANGELES. I'VE GOT RESTRAINING ORDERS AGAINST THEM. THERE'S BEEN LAWSUITS AND HERE NOW AGAIN, ANOTHER CARESSING MY BREAST WITHOUT CONSENT AS MY PARTNER WILL TELL YOU, I DON'T EVEN SHAKE MEN'S HANDS. I'M EXTREMELY LOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU. HOW YOU'RE USED TO ALL THE ADULTERY AND CHEATING THAT GOES ON IN OUR SOCIETY. WE HAVE EACH OTHER'S PASSWORDS TO OUR PHONES AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T TOUCH MEN AT ALL. I'M EXTREMELY LOYAL TO THE MAN I'M GOING TO MARRY MY BODY. AUTONOMY WAS VIOLATED. I FIRST GAVE PETSMART THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT RIGHT, SUGGESTING DISCIPLINARY ACTION ON THE EMPLOYEE AND COMPENSATION FOR ME FOR THE CRIME I SUFFERED.I DIDN'T WANT TO GET THE POLICE INVOLVED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANOTHER BLACK MAN IN JAIL. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. I'VE MARCHED WITH BLACK LIVES MATTER. I'M VERY PRO-BLACK ON ISSUES ALL MY LIFE, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. I GAVE THEM A CHANCE TO SOLVE IT CIVILLY. PETSMART.
AFTER MANY CONVERSATIONS AND THEN BREAKING THEIR PROMISES, THEY TOLD ME TO GO TO YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO I FILED A POLICE REPORT ON THE 12TH BECAUSE PETSMART TOLD ME TO DO THIS WHEN THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SOLVE IT CIVILLY WHEN WE COULD HAVE. AND YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WAITED A FULL MONTH, A FULL MONTH BEFORE DETECTIVE FINALLY CALLED ME, ASKING THE SAME REDUNDANT QUESTIONS I HAD ALREADY FILED IN THE POLICE REPORT. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT EVER CONTACTED ME. WITH THEIR OWN VOLITION, I HAD TO CHASE DOWN THE DETECTIVE WEEKS LATER WHEN SHE LIED AND SAID THEY WERE GOING TO CALL ME BACK WHEN THEY GOT THE VIDEO FOOTAGE, SHE NEVER DID, SO I HAD TO CHASE HER DOWN, DETECTIVE GRAY. THEN SHE SAID, OH, WELL, THEY NOW CLAIM THERE'S NO VIDEOTAPE, RIGHT? SO THE MONTH YOU GAVE THEM TO DESTROY THE EVIDENCE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT IN ANY CASE, THEY'RE GETTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN TWO MONTHS NOW. THEY'VE ONLY CALLED ME ONCE OUT OF THEIR OWN VOLITION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY ME, AS A TRANSGENDER HAS TO BE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN NOT DESERVING OF JUDICIAL JUDICIAL PROCESS OF JUSTICE FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT I SUFFERED. BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE CONSEQUENCES. EITHER THERE'S CONSEQUENCES FOR THE CRIMINAL WHO DID THIS AND THE COMPANY THAT DID IT, OR THE CONSEQUENCES WILL FALL ON YOU. YOU REALLY SHOULD LOOK ME UP. CONTACT BEVERLY HILLS, WHY DON'T YOU? WHY DON'T YOU GOOGLE THE LAWSUIT AGAINST LOUIS VUITTON THAT MY LAWYER HAS FILED A RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IN BEVERLY HILLS, OR THE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FILED AGAINST BEVERLY HILLS WHEN THEY DID THE SAME THING AND DIDN'T ARREST A SEXUAL ASSAULT OR THERE I WILL LEGALLY PROTEST NAKED WITH THESE BREASTS AT YOUR PUBLIC EVENT STARTING THIS THURSDAY AT THE EVENT ON THE 10TH, I WILL DESTROY YOUR PUBLIC RELATIONS OF THIS CITY. I WILL GO AFTER EACH ONE OF YOU. WILL THE ELECTION TIME WITH MY MONEY, WITH MY TIME, WITH MY ENERGY. I WAS IN POLITICS WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER. I REALLY MAYORS AND CITY MANAGERS. TIME HAS EXPIRED.
OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M NOT SURE IF I WILL BE NAKED PROTESTING ON THURSDAY WITH MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. IF YOUR POLICE TOUCH ME, THERE WILL BE A LAWSUIT. HIS PARTNER'S OKAY TO SPEAK. OKAY, SIR. YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. I WANT RESULTS OF THE. I WANT JUSTICE FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT I SUFFERED. YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING OR I WILL COME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE THIS EVENING. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA ITEMS. THE
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FIRST ITEM IS STATUS UPDATE OF NO COST MINOR HOME REPAIR FOR SENIORS AND VETERANS. YES. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO HAVE JANICE ELIAS COME UP ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND WALK US THROUGH THIS UPDATE. THIS HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN PRESENTED TO THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO CAN YOU CLOSE THAT DOOR, MADAM MAYOR? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. AND COUNCIL. I'M JANICE ELIAS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON THE NO COST MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. AS YOU REMEMBER, IN AUGUST, YOU ALL ACTUALLY APPROVED GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION AND HOUSE PROUD ATLANTA TO SERVE AS THE PROJECT MANAGER, AS WELL AS CONTRACTORS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. WE ACTUALLY HELD A MEETING IN SEPTEMBER SEPTEMBER 23RD TO BE EXACT, TO START GOING OVER PRELIMINARY LOGISTICS AS TO HOW THE PROGRAM WILL OPERATE. WE'LL[02:55:03]
BE DOING MANY MORE MEETINGS, BUT DURING THE MEETING LAST MONTH, YOU ALL REQUESTED THAT I JUST COME BACK AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF. SO WE AGAIN, WE MET ON SEPTEMBER 23RD.BOTH THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM HOUSE PROUD ATLANTA, AS WELL AS GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION, WERE PRESENT AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE SCOPE OF SERVICES, WHICH WOULD BE COMPLIANCE, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, ACCESSIBILITY AND ROOFING. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME LOGISTICS OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE INTAKE PROCESS, INCOME VERIFICATION, PRELIMINARY APPLICATIONS, INSPECTIONS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, AS WELL AS THE ARPA GUIDELINES REGARDING REHABILITATION PROJECTS. DURING THE MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN ORDER TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION PROCESS. THE TENTATIVE COMMUNITY MEETING DATES ARE OCTOBER 29TH, 2020 FOR BEING HELD HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER AT 630, AND THEN THE SECOND MEETING WOULD BE NOVEMBER SECOND, 2024 AT THE CITY HALL ANNEX AT 10:00 AM. SO THOSE DATES HAVEN'T BEEN PUBLISHED, BUT I WANTED TO PRESENT YOU ALL WITH THOSE DATES BEFORE WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO START ADVERTISING THE COMMUNITY MEETING DATES. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. SO WHY ARE WE HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS? SO THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ARE BEING HELD SO THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET A COPY OF THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION. I WILL TELL YOU ALSO IN THE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, WHEN WE MET WITH HOUSEPROUD AND GREEN HEART, WE DID DISCUSS THE WAITLIST THAT HOUSEPROUD ATLANTA ACTUALLY ALREADY HAS. SO MISS JONES HAS AGREED TO CONTACT ALL OF THOSE MEMBERS ON THE WAITLIST TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AS WELL AS RECEIVE A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION. SO HERE'S MY THING. WHY ARE WE GOING THROUGH A MEETING WHEN THESE PEOPLE WERE ALREADY ON THE LIST? WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE KNOCKED OFF THE LIST? THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE DECIDED TO GO WITH HOUSE PROUD, BECAUSE WE HAD SENIORS ALREADY ON THE LIST THAT DID NOT GET THE SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT. THERE WERE NOT PEOPLE THAT WERE FUNDING HOUSE PROUD AND EAST POINT LIKE THEY WERE IN ATLANTA. SO TO TELL THEM NOW AFTER THEY'VE BEEN ON THE LIST IS AN INSULT TO THEM AND THAT THEY GOT TO REAPPLY. WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE OKAY.
SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS MISS JONES, LISA JONES WITH HOUSE PROUD, WHAT SHE'LL BE DOING IS MAKING SURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE EXISTING LIST IS GIVEN FIRST PRIORITY ON THIS NEW LIST. THEY SHOULD NOT BE LIKE THAT. IT SHOULDN'T HAVE. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ON THE LIST. SO NOW YOU NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THEM THAT THEY GOT TO REAPPLY TO GET BACK ON THE LIST. AND THEY MIGHT THEY MIGHT GET PRIORITY.
YES, MA'AM. WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER COMPANY INVOLVED AS WELL. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THIS STUFF GETS MERGED UP. NOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. I DON'T I DON'T ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE SENIORS THAT'S BEEN ON THE LIST. AND I THOUGHT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE. WELL, THE SENIORS AND VETERANS, RIGHT.
IT'S NOT JUST SENIORS. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM FOR THEM TO COME UP HERE AND HAVE TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK WHEN THEY WERE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER THE DATE FOR OCTOBER 29TH. WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY THAT WAS? 6:30 P.M. AND THEN THE ONE ON NOVEMBER 2ND IS 10:00 AM. IT'S A SATURDAY, SO DO THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY? IS OR ARE YOU ABLE TO TAKE THEM OFF THE LIST. SO THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION PROCESS WAS DISCUSSED TO AT LEAST GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO NEGATE THE PERSONS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE WAITLIST FOR HOUSE PROUD, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE THE OTHER RESIDENTS WHO ARE WITHIN THAT AGE RANGE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. IT'S ONLY $350,000. HOWEVER, IF WE'RE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATIONS IS POSSIBLE UNDER THE ARPA FUNDING ONCE IT'S GONE, WE MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND FUNDING FROM OTHER LOCATIONS SUCH AS THE CHIP PROGRAM, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO
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APPLY FOR AGAIN IN 2025. SO THE GOAL IS TO TRY AND SEEK OUT OTHER FORMS, OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMONS, THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP? IT WAS QUITE A FEW. QUITE A FEW. AND THAT IS HOW THEY BASED ON THE FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM, BASED ON THE PEOPLE THAT WAS ALREADY ON THE LIST, WE NEVER SAID COME UP WITH A PRELIMINARY A, A THING TO PUT IN PLACE WHERE IT WILL OPEN UP BECAUSE THEY ARE WE WHEN WE INITIATED IT AND THE CITY CLERK CAN GO GET THE VERBATIM MINUTES WHEN IT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND INITIATED, HOUSE PROUD CAME IN AND DID A PRESENTATION AND TOLD US HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE FROM EAST POINT THAT WAS ON THE LIST. THAT'S HOW THE CONVERSATION STARTED. AND IT STARTED MOVING THAT WAY, AND IT WAS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE. AND BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GIVE THE PEOPLE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING FROM EAST POINT. SO THOSE PEOPLE REMAINED ON THE LIST AND WE SAID, OKAY, WE CAN USE THE AQUIFER MONEY TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE LIST. AND NOW TO COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO DO A PRELIMINARY HEARING. THAT AIN'T THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DISCUSSED WHEN IT WAS FIRST INITIATED. OKAY, OKAY. SO DO WE STILL HAVE THAT LIST. THAT LIST IS SO HOUSE PROUD. HAS THAT LIST HOW OLD, HOW OLD, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE THEY SIGNED UP FOR THAT? I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS BECAUSE I. ABOUT A YEAR OR SO. ABOUT A YEAR OR SO. SO JUST A SUGGESTION THAT LIST THAT ACTIVE LIST THAT HOUSE PROUD HAS WE GO THROUGH AND JUST KIND OF CONTACT EVERYBODY YOU KNOW STILL KEEP THEM. THEY'LL HAVE PRIORITY. AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID IT'S ONLY $350,000. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MATRIX WILL BE WITH REGARDS TO WHO GETS WHAT, WHAT FUNDS OR WHATEVER. BUT YOU KNOW, STILL, YOU KNOW, OPEN IT UP IF OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN AND IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. RIGHT. BUT THE ONES THAT ARE THAT ARE ALREADY ON THAT LIST SERVICE THEM FIRST. STILL, YOU KNOW, KEEP A RUNNING LIST. I MEAN, BECAUSE WHO KNOWS, THEY MAY NOT THEIR STUFF MAY COME TO 200,000. AND IF YOU HAVE 150,000, YOU CAN USE IT FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE. SO IS THAT A. WELL, LET ME LET ME RESPOND. SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WE CAN DO THAT. I KNOW YOU'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SENIORS AND HOUSE PROUD. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF US JUST DOING IT. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. WE CAN DO THAT. UNLESS THERE'S OTHER. IF I DON'T HEAR ANYONE SAYING NO, WE'LL DO THAT.COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND, THIS MAY BE A MOOT POINT, BUT YOU SAID ONE OF THE MEETINGS WAS IN OCTOBER AT 630. THE PROPOSED MEETINGS, THE FIRST ONE IS OCTOBER 29TH AT 6:30 P.M, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A TUESDAY. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE NOVEMBER 2ND AT 10:00 AM AT THE CITY HALL ANNEX, WHICH IS A SATURDAY. OKAY, MY ONLY POINT WOULD BE IF WE'RE SERVING SENIORS, IT'LL BE DARK. YEAH, AT THAT TIME. AND SO MAYBE TWO DAYTIME MEETINGS WOULD BE OKAY. YEAH. SO I, I THINK. WE FIRST HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER. CALLOWAY WAS ON COUNCIL AND THEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE LIST FROM EAST POINT. BUT AS COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE SAID, THERE WAS NOT FUNDING ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY FOR EAST POINT. AND SO THEN WE DECIDED TO PROVIDE FUNDING BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE REPAIRS THAT WAS PROJECTED THAT THEY NEEDED AT THE TIME. IF WE TOLD RESIDENTS AT THE TIME THAT THEY SIGNED UP THAT THIS WAS A PROGRAM THAT WE WERE DOING AND THIS IS WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND THEY SIGNED UP WITH HOUSE PRIDE AND THEN HOUSE PRIDE SAID, WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING FOR EAST POINT AND THEN EAST POINT PROVIDES FUNDING. I THINK THERE'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT IF I SIGNED UP INITIALLY THAT I DON'T LOSE MY SPACE IN LINE, THAT I'M STILL A PART OF THAT. I THINK TO HAVE A TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON $350,000 WHEN I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ON THE INITIAL LIST, I BELIEVE THE VALUE OF THE ESTIMATED REPAIRS AT THE TIME WAS WELL OVER $200,000. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. LIKE WE CREATE A BIGGER ISSUE IF YOU ONE GO BACK
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ON WHAT WE TOLD THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP, AND THESE ARE SENIORS, SO THEY RELY, I MEAN, PEOPLE RELY ON WHAT WE SAY. I MEAN, OUR WORD IS OUR BOND. AND SO GOING BACK ON THEM, BUT THEN THERE'S PROBABLY NOT EVEN A LOT ENOUGH MONEY TO HAVE AN ON CALL. AND I KNOW IT'S FIRST, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE FUNDING LASTS, LIKE FOR ANY OF THIS. RIGHT. AND WE'VE DONE THAT WITH ALL OF THE ARPA PROGRAMS. BUT I THINK WE CREATED A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF THE PEOPLE WHO INITIALLY WANTED TO LIST THAT THEY WERE SIGNING UP TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE STARTING WITH THEM. I MEAN, WE COULD GO THROUGH IT. I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN SOME YEARS. SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE ALREADY HAD THE WORK DONE BY SOME OTHER MEANS. I MEAN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INITIALLY ON THE LIST, BUT WE SHOULD BE INITIALLY HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO SCREEN LIKE GO THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY STILL NEED IT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY STILL WANT IT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY STILL HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED. I MEAN, YOU CAN UPDATE INFORMATION, RIGHT? LIKE IF THERE'S INCOME CHANGES OR WHATEVER THAT OTHER STUFF IS. BUT I JUST THINK WE CREATE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM. AND TO START WITH THAT, WITH EXCLUDING, I MEAN, THE INITIAL MEETING, I THINK SHOULD BE WITH THEM OR INITIAL CONVERSATION SHOULD BE WITH THEM. AND AGAIN, ONCE WE DO THAT, WE MIGHT END UP AT HAVING MORE RESOURCES AVAILABLE BECAUSE A NUMBER OF THINGS COULD HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THEY GOT ON THE LIST. BUT I JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR US TO GO BACK AND SAY TO THEM, YOU GOT TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. AT THE TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY. WE USED YOUR ESTIMATED REPAIRS TO ALLOCATE MONEY, BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO REAPPLY TO GET MONEY THAT WE USE YOUR ESTIMATED REPAIRS TO ALLOCATE. SO. I, I JUST THINK IT'S FAIR TO START WITH IT. AND HOW MANY DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE I KNOW. I'LL CHECK WITH MISS JONES AGAIN TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ON THEIR WAITLIST. SO IF THERE IS CONSENSUS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO START WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE WAITLIST THAT ALREADY EXIST WITH HOUSE PRIDE ATLANTA, THERE'S NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.BUT BUT I THINK ALSO, IF MAYBE MONDAY AT THE WORK SESSION, IF YOU CAN BRING BACK THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THEIR NAMES AT THIS MEETIN, RIGHT. BUT LIKE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE ESTIMATED REPAIRS, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE ALSO COULD BE TALKING ABOUT TEN PEOPLE, LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. I DON'T RECALL THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT AMOUNT OF MONEY. RIGHT. BUT IF WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WHAT WERE THOSE INITIAL ESTIMATED REPAIRS. RIGHT. I THINK. THAT HELPS FROM A OKAY. DID WE DO WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO? PERSPECTIVE. LIKE WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH? IS IT $150,000 FOR THOSE PEOPLE. SO IT'S $200,000 LEFT, RIGHT. AND SO I THINK WE COULD HAVE IT WITH THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. RIGHT. AND THEN MAKE SOME DECISIONS. YEAH, I'LL CONTACT MISS JONES TOMORROW BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO START DOING WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH BOTH HOUSE PRIDE AND GREENHEART ANYWAY, SO WE CAN START THE ROLLOUT OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF. SO I WILL CONTACT HER TOMORROW AND FIND OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ON THE WAITLIST AND IF THEY HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST FOR EACH OF THE HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY. SO LET'S PUT THIS ON AS A PRESENTATION FOR MONDAY. SO IT'LL BE MORE AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA OKAY. HOW DOES THAT SOUND FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL PUT IT ON MONDAY WORK SESSION AS A PRESENTATION AT THE TOP OKAY. AND THEN THAT I WOULD SUSPECT WOULD NEGATE THE NEED TO DO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. IF WE START WITH THAT LIST AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT, IF THAT'S AVAILABLE, IT MAY NEGATE IT, BUT IT MAY NOT. IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT. RIGHT? LIKE WE COULD STILL IT COULD BE A BOTH AND IT COULD BE WHAT YOU ALREADY SHARED. PLUS, STARTING WITH THIS PLUS WHAT YOU ALREADY SHARED. SO WE JUST I THINK THE NUMBERS WOULD HELP. OKAY OKAY I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
ALRIGHTY. NEXT WE HAVE. OH THIS IS AGENDA ITEM. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO MOVE THAT TO THE MONDAY WORK SESSION AS A PRESENTATION ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THE NO COST HOME REPAIR. YES, COUNCILMAN. WE MOVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO THE WORK SESSION UNDER PRESENTATION. SO MOVED. IS THERE
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A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF WATER AND SEWER EMERGENCY REPAIRS. THE FIRST IS FOR A WATER TREATMENT PLANT INSPECTION RECOMMENDATION BY GFA THAT REQUIRES INSTALLING 12 FILTERS. WE GET EITHER A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, OR A MOTION TO APPROVE. MADAM MAYOR. YES, COUNCILMAN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPROVAL. EMERGENCY INSTALLATION. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS THE EMERGENCY REPAIR OF AN EIGHT INCH SEWER MAIN INSTALLATION LOCATED AT SHELBY LANE. DUE TO DETERIORATED SEVERE CORROSION AND DAMAGE. IS THERE A MOTION TO DISCUSS OR A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS MOTION TO APPROVE EMERGENCY REPAIR. 4131 JANICE DRIVE DUE TO SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE IN. YES. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISCUSS? APPROVE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL SO DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE OR WHAT WAS THE STORY BEHIND THIS? BEFORE MISTER BROWN YEAH. IF WE CAN GET MISS ETCHEVERRY TO COME UP AND JUST WALK US THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT IS IT? GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ON JANICE DRIVE THE SEWER LINE HAD COLLAPSED AND THERE WAS A NEARBY CREEK. AS YOU KNOW, IF SEWER GETS IN THE CREEK, WE WILL BE FINED BY EPD. OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. YES. FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED. NEXT UP IS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR FOR REPAIR OF THE MOTOR, CONTROL OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. DUE TO MOTOR CONTROL NEEDING TO BE REFURBISHED IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PLANT EQUIPMENT OPERATIONAL. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISCUSS? APPROVE? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS A MOTION TO APPROVE EMERGENCY REPAIR, PROJECT RESTORATION AND SINKHOLE REPAIRS ON PINEY WOOD LANE. DUE TO FINALIZING SEWER LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. APPROVE. SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. LAST ONE IS MOTION TO APPROVE EMERGENCY REPAIR OF THE ROADWAY ON PARKSIDE TERRACE. DUE TO THE ROADWAY BEING IN POOR CONDITIONS AFTER THE WATER LINE REPLACEMENT ENCOUNTER UNEXPECTED CONDITIONS WHILE WORKING. WHILE WORK WAS UNDERWAY. THEIR MOTION TO APPROVE ARE DISCUSSED, SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? HI. ALL THOSE[XIII. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]
OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE AT COUNCIL COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. GOOD EVENING.THIS POINT, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A SINCERE PRAYER FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE AFFECTED BY THE HURRICANE THAT RECENTLY CAME INTO EAST POINT. I KNOW MY FAMILY AND I HAD FLOODING IN OUR HOME, SO WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT EVERYBODY'S SAFE AND DRY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO REMIND OUR COMMUNITY THAT I WILL BE HAVING A BACKYARD SERIES TOWN HALL MEETING HERE THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10TH FROM 630 TO 8 P.M. AT EAST POINT CITY HALL. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYONE COMING OUT TO OUR TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE WE WILL TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, CITY MANAGEMENT AND THE WARD D RECREATIONAL CENTER. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE. ON THURSDAY THE 10TH. COUNCILMAN MARTIN, THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THE FIRST IS I'M PARTNERING WITH THE GIRL SCOUT FROM TROOP 20790. AND WE ARE WORKING WITH MOCHA MOMS OF FULTON COUNTY SOUTH FULTON COUNTY IN COLLECTING NEW BABY
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ITEMS FOR FIRST TIME MOMS. DONATIONS CAN BE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL BEGINNING OCTOBER 9TH.CONTINUING TO CONTINUING THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST. ALSO, THERE IS A OCTOBER 10TH MICROSOFT DATA CENTER COMMUNITY MEETING GOING TO BE HELD AT 6 P.M. UNTIL 7:30 P.M. AT THE ATLANTA COMMUNITY FOOD BANK HEADQUARTERS. THAT LOCATION IS 3400 NORTH DESERT DRIVE. THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A MARTA COMMUNITY MEETING INFORMATION SESSION FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN HERITAGE PARK, SAVANNAH WALK, BEN HILL ROAD AND THE SUN VALLEY COMMUNITY IN SURROUNDING AREAS.
MARTA IS COMING TO THE AREA AND THAT MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD ON. MARTA IS IN THE AREA BUT THEY ARE CHANGING THE LOCATION OF THE BUS STOPS AND ALSO CHANGING HOW WE ON BOARD OR WE TRANSITION ON TO THAT CAMP CREEK PARKWAY. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT MEETING ON OCTOBER 11TH. THAT MEETING ADDRESS IS 1400 CENTER PARKWAY IN SUITE NUMBER ONE, THREE TWO.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE HELD FROM 6 P.M. UNTIL 7 P.M. I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND THAT PICKLEBALL TEAM. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR THE EFFORTS WITH OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT THAT ARE BEING MADE FOR OUR CITY IN THAT DEPARTMENT TO BE MIRACLE LEAGUE HOSTS. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH MIRACLE LEAGUES, THEY HELP CHILDREN WHO FACE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL DISABILITIES EXPERIENCE PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IN REGARDS TO BUILDING UPON THIS INITIATIVE.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I GOT. COUNCIL MEMBER KAUFMAN. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING, BOTH LIVE AND VIA LIVE STREAM. I JUST WANTED TO INVITE EVERYONE OUT TO OUR WARD SEATS. THE COUNCIL MEMBER, MITCHELL AND MYSELF WILL BE HOSTING OUR QUARTERLY WARD C COMMUNITY MEETING. IT'S GOING TO BE THURSDAY. I'M AT SAINT STEPHENS FROM 630 TO 8:00. WE'LL HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, WATER AND SEWER, AND POWER DEPARTMENT. THEY'LL ALL BE OUT TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY MAY HAVE. AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THIS THURSDAY AT SAINT STEPHENS METHODIST BAPTIST. MBC I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, 26 SEVEN MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH. JEEZ, I'M SORRY. THE ADDRESS IS 2670 HOGAN ROAD. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE EVERYONE THERE. THANK YOU. I YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT FOR THE VOTER REGISTRATION ON SATURDAY. AND WHEN I TELL YOU THAT THE YOUNG, THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE REALLY, REALLY DRIVING VOTE, THE ENERGY THAT THEY HAVE IS THE SAME ENERGY THAT THEY HAD WHEN PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WAS RUNNING. AND I GOT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND SAY, THANK YOU TO THE YOUNG LADIES THAT WERE PART IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE VOTER REGISTRATION ON SATURDAY, DQ. Q ROBINSON, KIERRA STINCHCOMBE, THE DIMITRI LEBED AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY HAD WAS AZURE. ANDRE. SHE'S AN ARTIST, A PAINTER WHO DO MURALS IN EASTPOINTE AND SHE HAD A PORTRAIT OF VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS THAT SHE PAINTED. ALSO, CIERRA THE FACE PAINTER AND ROYAL PLAYHOUSE, THE MINI BOUNCE HOUSE THAT THEY HAD. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THEY REALLY THEY REALLY WORKED AND THEY ENERGIZED AND THEY HAD SIGNS WHERE THEY WERE WAVING AT PEOPLE, GETTING THEM TO COME AND REGISTER AND CHECK THEIR STATUS. SO THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE WAS TODAY. EARLY VOTING STARTS ON OCTOBER THE 15TH, AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GO VOTE. AND I KNOW THE MAYOR IS GOING TO TOUCH ON IT AS WELL. SO IT IS JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE GO VOTE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT, WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING IN PERSON
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AND ONLINE. I TO ECHO, THANKS TO THE YOUNG LADIES WHO DECIDED THAT THEY THEIR THEIR DO SOMETHING TO AS IT RELATES TO THE UPCOMING ELECTION. WHAT WAS TO HOST HELP COORDINATE A VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE YOUNG LADIES COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE MENTIONED AS SHE SAID, TODAY IS THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE ROLLER. YOU CAN REGISTER ONLINE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. OF COURSE, THE IN-PERSON WAYS HAVE CLOSED, BUT AFTER REGISTERING TO VOTE, IT'S MOST IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTE. VOTING YOUR VOTE IS YOUR POWER. YOUR VOTE IS YOUR VOICE. EVERY ELECTION IS CRITICAL TO PROGRESS. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ONE THING ON IT AND IT'S JUST A LOCAL ITEM. EVERY ELECTION, MAKE SURE YOU VOTE IN EVERY SINGLE ELECTION AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME THERE. THE ELECTION IS JUST UNDER 30 DAYS AWAY. THE UPCOMING ELECTION. AND SO AGAIN, IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR VOTE IS THEIR POWER, THEIR VOTE IS THEIR VOICE, AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY EXERCISE IT. BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T VOTE, YOU ACTUALLY VOTE. AND OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU DON'T VOTE, YOU VOTE AGAINST YOUR SELF-INTEREST. YOU ARE LITERALLY ALLOWING SOMEBODY ELSE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR YOU THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST. AND SO MAKE SURE YOU EXERCISE YOUR POWER AND ROCK THE VOTE. THE HEALTHY POINT MIND, BODY AND SOUL. FULL CIRCUIT SATURDAY IS THIS SATURDAY, OCTOBER THE 12TH FROM 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. AT THE JEFFERSON PARK RECREATION CENTER, 1431 NORMAN BERRY DRIVE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA. THERE'S NO REGISTRATION. I CAN'T EVEN TALK.BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE HAD THE DINNER WITH THE TOP INCENTIVE EARNERS, THEY CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING PERIODICALLY AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE A NUMBER OF THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE DURING THE HEALTHY POINT. SO THERE WILL BE MENTAL WELLNESS, AND I THINK SOME ART WILL BE INFUSED IN THAT TOTAL BODY FITNESS STRENGTH TRAINING, YOGA, COOKING, DEMONSTRATION, LINE DANCING AND GARDENING. AND SO THERE WILL BE ON A ROTATIONAL BASIS, LUNCH WILL BE PROVIDED. COME OUT AND LET'S CONTINUE OUR JOURNEY TO BEING HEALTHIER TOGETHER AGAIN. THAT'S THIS SATURDAY, OCTOBER THE 12TH FROM 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M.
AT JEFFERSON PARK RECREATION CENTER, 1431 NORMAN BERRY DRIVE. THE HEALTHY POINT MIND, BODY AND SOULFUL CIRCUIT. SATURDAY. DO WE HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS TONIGHT FROM LEGAL? YES, MADAM
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MAYOR, I HAVE FIVE LEGAL ONE PERSONNEL, TWO REAL ESTATE, FIVE LEGAL ONE PERSONNEL, TWO REAL ESTATE. I JUST WROTE THE NUMBERS ON THAT. LIKE MR. BROWN. JUST ONE PERSON. NO ONE PERSONNEL COUNCIL. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIVE LEGAL, TWO REAL ESTATE AND TWO PERSONNEL. WE PROBABLY NEED AT LEAST ONE MORE PERSONNEL, POSSIBLY, AND ONE MORE REAL ESTATE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE THREE PARTS, THREE PERSONNEL, FIVE LEGAL, THREE REAL ESTATE. YES. MOTION TO RECEIVE THREE PERSONNEL. THREE REAL ESTATE. MOTION TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR FIVE. LEGAL. THREE PERSONNEL AND THREE REAL ESTATE. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE