X.5. An Ordinance to Amend the Official Zoning Map of the City of East Point for 0 Dunlap Avenue Rezoning with Concurrent Variances from R1-A (Urban Residential) Zoning District to R-T (Residential Townhome) Zoning District (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED)

[X.5. An Ordinance to Amend the Official Zoning Map of the City of East Point for 0 Dunlap Avenue Rezoning with Concurrent Variances from R1-A (Urban Residential) Zoning District to R-T (Residential Townhome) Zoning District (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED)]

IS A ZONING MATTER. AND THE SECOND IS OUR A BUDGET AMENDMEN. SO, ATTORNEY HARTLEY, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU READ THE ZONING PUBLIC HEARING RULES BEFORE WE START FIVE. AND THEN BEFORE WE START THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR SIX, I'LL HAVE YOU READ THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARING ROOM. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THE RULES RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR ZONING MATTERS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE WILL INTRODUCE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. STAFF WILL THEN BE CALLED UPON TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUMMARIZE THE STAFF'S WRITTEN REPORT. PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK, FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS, PROVIDED THAT EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. THERE IS. IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SPEAKER FOR A SIDE, THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER OTHER THAN THE ZONING APPLICANT, THE ZONING APPLICANT MAY RESERVE A PORTION OF THE ALLOTTED TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING. EACH SPEAKER SHALL IDENTIFY HIM OR HERSELF AND STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS. EACH SPEAKER SHALL SPEAK ONLY TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DECISION UNDER CONSIDERATION SHALL ADDRESS REMARKS ONLY TO THE COUNCIL, AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY OTHER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REFUSE A SPEAKER THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE AFTER. IF, AFTER FIRST BEING CAUTIONED, THE SPEAKER CONTINUES TO VIOLATE THE RULES OF DECORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT FOR ZERO DUNLAP AVENUE REZONING WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCES FROM R1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, TO TT RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME ZONING

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DISTRICT. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. MISS JESSIE, I SEE MISS SMITH AT THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW FROM STAFF. YES, MA'AM.

YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, KIMBERLY SMITH, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE, ADDRESS ZERO DUNLAP AVENUE, CASE NUMBER 2024-00106. THE APPLICANT IS RESTORE CONSULTING GROUP, LLC. DOUGLAS SUBER IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COMPANY. THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS R1. A. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS TT, WHICH IS OUR RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE ZONING DISTRICT. THE REQUEST IS A REZONING FROM THE R1 A TO TT TO DEVELOP 11 TOWNHOMES. THERE'S ALSO A CONCURRENT VARIANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPLICATIO. THE VARIANCES ARE FOR TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT, TO REDUCE THE FRONT AND REAR YARD SETBACK. AGAIN, THIS IS A COPY OF OUR ZONING MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTY AS ZERO. DUNLAP. IT IS R1 A URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY IS CITY OF EAST POINT, AND THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R3, WHICH IS OUR MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS IS A PRESENT REPRESENTATION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THIS PROPERTY HAS A REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD, ZONING DISTRICT, LAND USE CLASSIFICATION. IN THE REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD. FUTURE PLANNING IN THIS AREA, THE INTENT IS TO IMPROVE HOUSING CONDITIONS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VACANT HOMES AND LOTS. THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL INCLUDE AN ASSORTMENT OF HOUSING TYPES SUCH AS SINGLE FAMILY, TWO FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY AND SOME OF THE TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN REDEVELOPMENT. NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS R1, RL, R1, A, R, T, WHICH IS OUR RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOMES R2 AND R3. IS A PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED RENDERINGS SITE PLAN AND LAYOUT OF THE SITE AND A VICINITY MAP. THESE ARE MORE RENDERINGS SHOWING A DECORATIVE FENCE, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, SOME OF THE FACADE MATERIALS THAT ARE PROPOSED ALONG WITH THE ENHANCED SIGN ENTRY SIGN TO THE DEVELOPMENT. IS THERE MORE RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSAL? JUST GO THROUGH THOSE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE THREE PART CONCURRENT VARIANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THE REZONING FROM R1, A TO R T. THE FIRST PART OF THE VARIANCE IS TO GIVE RELIEF TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH FROM 30FT TO 25FT. PART TWO OF THE VARIANCE IS TO GRANT THE REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM FRONT AND REAR YARDS FROM 10FT TO 5FT, AND THE THIRD PART OF THE VARIANCE IS TO GRANT AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 35 TO 48FT IN HEIGHT. FURTHERMORE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST ITSELF AND THE CONCURRENT VARIANCES WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION. CONDITION NUMBER ONE APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT HOA COVENANTS TO INCLUDE ALL SMART TOWNHOME FEATURES INCLUDED AND PRESENTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS BY THE APPLICANT. THOSE FEATURES INCLUDE EXTERIOR MATERIALS, INTERIOR FEATURES, AND OTHER AMENITIES. CONDITION NUMBER TWO THE APPLICANT MAY ONLY BUILD AT MAXIMUM. THE PROPOSED 11 TOWNHOMES. CONDITION NUMBER THREE ENSURE THAT BUILDING ELEVATIONS VARY IN STYLE AND DESIGN. COMPOSED AS DEPICTED IN THE WORK SESSION PRESENTATION. ON AUGUST 8TH, 2024 AND SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2024. PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S AN ATTACHMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS SUBMITTED. CONDITION NUMBER FOUR. TOWNHOMES MUST HAVE 35 TO 40% TRANSPARENCY. THAT'S TO

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ADHERE TO THE SIZE OF THE WINDOWS ON THE PROPERTY AS IT'S DEVELOPED. CONDITION NUMBER FIVE PROVIDES STAGGERING PATTERNS OF TOWNHOMES TO ENSURE CORNER UNITS ARE BRICK CONDITION NUMBER SIX, THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WILL MAINTAIN ARCHITECTURAL OVERSIGHT OF THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITION NUMBER SEVEN. THE PROJECT MUST PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING PROPOSED AMENITY AMENITIES A MASONRY WALL SURROUNDING THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY AND DECORATIVE SECURITY ENTRY GATE WITH COMMUNITY SUBDIVISION SIGN. ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, BENCHES, ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING, FIRE PITS, BIKE RACKS, UNDERGROUND STORMWATER DETENTION FACILITY. CONTROL MANAGEMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TEN DASH 11021 THROUGH SECTION TEN. DASH 11023A WALKING TRAIL, PLAYGROUND AND A DOG PARK, AS DEPICTED IN THE PRESENTATION CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT. PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, THE APPLICANT SHALL FOLLOW THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES PURSUANT TO SECTION 42007 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR THE ABANDONMENT OF A CITYWIDE RIGHT OF WAY LANES AND ALLEYS.

AND CONDITION NUMBER NINE, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONSIDER AND PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE EGRESS AND INGRESS FOR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. ALLOW ACCESS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT FROM A CITY OF EAST POINT ROAD, AND SHALL ADHERE TO ANY BUFFER REQUIREMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY AND STATE CODES. THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF OUR PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP, PLEASE COME FORWARD. AT THIS TIME. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

PRESS THE MIC. PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE MIC. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. MY NAME IS DOUGLAS SUBER. I AM THE OWNER OF ZERO DUNLOP AVENUE. I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SMART HOME COMMUNITY. YOU CAN KEEP GOING.

YOU CAN SKIP SKIP THAT. SKIP. THE NAME OF THIS PROJECT IS CALLED ENGLISH IVY. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 3100 TO 3800FT■!S, HAS 4 TO 5 BEDROOMS, THREE AND THREE, THREE AND A HALF BATHROOMS, TWO CAR GARAGE, FOUR STORIES. THE EXTERIOR MATERIAL OF THE HOMES WILL BE A MIXTURE OF FIBER, CEMENT AND OR BRICK, KNOWN FOR DURABILITY, FIRE RESISTANCE AND LOW MAINTENANCE.

THE INTERIOR OF THE HOMES WILL HAVE DRYWALL THROUGHOUT THE DWELLINGS WITH TEN FOOT CEILINGS. THE FLOORING WILL HAVE SEVEN INCH LVP TO GIVE IT A CLEAN FINISHED LOOK. THE KITCHEN WILL HAVE QUARTZ COUNTERTOPS, STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES, MICROWAVE WALL MOUNTED STAINLESS STEEL OVEN, 36 INCH ELECTRIC COOKTOP, 36 INCH STAINLESS CANOPY WALL MOUNTED HOOD, STAINLESS STEEL UNDERMOUNT BASIN SINK, DISHWASHER FAUCETS WITH PULL DOWN SPRAY LED RECESSED LIGHTING, TILE BACKSPLASH, AND SLEEK MODERN CABINETRY WITH UPPER CROWN MOLDING. THE OWNER'S SUITE WILL HAVE A BATH TUB WITH QUARTZ COUNTERTOP, TILED WALK IN SHOWER, DOUBLE VANITY AND TILE

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FLOORING. THE SECONDARY SUITES WILL INCLUDE MODERN BATH FIXTURES AND FAUCETS, SHOWER AND BATH TUB COMBINATION QUARTZ COUNTERTOPS AND TILE FLOORING. THERE WILL BE SEVERAL AMENITIES OFFERED IN THE EASTPOINTE RESIDENCE OF ENGLISH IVY. SOME OF THE AMENITIES INCLUDE A MASONRY WALL SURROUNDING THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, BENCHES, ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING, FIRE PITS, BIKE RACKS, UNDERGROUND STORMWATER DETENTION FACILITY, WALKING TRAIL, PLAYGROUND, AND A DOG PARK. IN AN EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, FIRE ENGINES WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A REQUIRED 28 FOOT RADIUS, TURN OF THE HAMMERHEAD, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE REVISED SITE PLAN. A HYDRANT WILL BE INSTALLED BETWEEN UNITS FOUR AND FIVE AND SIX. I'M SORRY. FIVE AND SIX. EACH UNIT WILL BE SEPARATED BY A TWO HOUR FIREWALL AND WILL HAVE NPT SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, FIRE ALARMS AND CARBON MONOXIDE SENSORS INSTALLED. UTILITIES WILL BE UNDERGROUND.

THESE WILL BE SEWER, WATER, ELECTRICAL, CABLE AND INTERNET, AND UNDERGROUND STORMWATER FACILITY WILL BE BUILT TO PREVENT RUNOFF FROM DUNLOP AVENUE ONTO ENGLISH LANE. BY BUILDING THE FACILITY UNDERGROUND, IT WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH AMENITIES. SANITATION WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE TRASH AREA. ALSO, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL PERPENDICULAR PARKING FOR GUESTS LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY NEXT TO UNIT 11.

EAST POINT WILL BE THE MUSIC WILL BE THE MUNICIPALITY OF FIRST RESPONDERS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE EMT, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. ON JULY 31ST, 2024, I SPOKE WITH MISS CARR, WHO IS THE OFFICE MANAGER AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO POLICE CHIEF SEAN BUCHANAN AND WAS TOLD THAT EAST POINT WILL BE THE FIRST ON THE SCENE IN ANY EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. DESPITE ENGLISH IV'S INGRESS AND EGRESS LOCATION, WHICH IS THE DESIGNATED ON ENGLISH LANE, WHICH WAS OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION ON PREVIOUS MEETING. ACCORDING TO SECTION TEN DASH 2069, THE PROPERTY OWNER, RESTORE CONSULTING GROUP WILL APPLY FOR A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE HOA AND OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FIRM PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF AN LDP, THE HOA FEE PER RESIDENT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 3 TO $400 PER MONTH, AND THESE HOMES WILL DEBUT AT A STARTING PRICE OF MID TO UPPER FIVE HUNDREDS AND WILL INCREMENTALLY INCREASE. EXCELLENT. KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING. OKAY, THE OTHER WAY.

HERE YOU SEE WHERE SEWER AND WATER WILL. THERE'S CONNECTIVITY ON DUNLOP AS WELL AS WEST FERRIS AND LA ROSE. SO WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS FOR THAT. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE SMART HOMES WILL CONSIDER. WILL BE WILL BE BUILT ON PROPERTY. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING AND CALLING ME BACK. AND I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING PART. SO THEY'RE NOT QUESTIONS DURING THIS PART. BUT AFTER THIS WHEN WE OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME. ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? I'LL NEED YOU TO CLEAR THE MIC SPACE. SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING, I HAVE TO FINISH CALLING ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR,

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THEN I CALL PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE IN OPPOSITION. AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN THE FLOOR. ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR ZERO. DUNLAP AVENUE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RICHARD PIERCE. I'M AT 2022 ENGLISH LANE, COLLEGE PARK.

I ALSO HAVE A PROPERTY ON BEN HILL ROAD. I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPERTY AT DUNLAP AVENUE. I APOLOGIZE, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO READ SOME OF THIS. MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT IS DUE TO THE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT CLEAR CUTTING OF THE PROPERTY, MAJOR TOPOGRAPHICAL GRADING AND DISTURBANCE OF THE CAMP CREEK WATERSHED WILL HAVE AN EASTPOINT AND DOWNSTREAM INTO COLLEGE PARK AND BEYOND THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SAW STILL POINTED TO ENGLISH LANE. IT'S OUTDATED AND DOES NOT REFLECT THE LOCATION OF THE NEWLY PROPOSED DRIVEWAY FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY 450FT NORTH TO WEST, FERRIS AVENUE, IT CROSSES CAMP CREEK AND 100 FOOT OF FLOODPLAIN. I'M HOPING THAT THE PLAN WILL BE ABANDONED DUE TO ITEM SECTION ONE. NUMBER NINE, WHICH SAYS AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON TONIGHT THAT REQUIRES A REASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY ACCESS DUE TO WATERSHED BUFFERS, WHICH THE DRIVEWAY WOULD VIOLATE. I ASSUME THEN, THAT THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS TO OPEN THE PROPERTY ONTO DUNLAP AND VISTA.

ONE WAY TO BE CERTAIN OF THIS WOULD BE TO DENY RIGHTS OF THE LACROSSE STREET RIGHT OF WAY TO THE DEVELOPER. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT DOESN'T COME BEFORE THIS BODY, BUT I HAVE A KIND OF RHETORICAL QUESTION. IF HE DOES APPLY FOR THE LAROSA PROPERTY RIGHTS, WOULD THAT COME BACK BEFORE ZONING SO THAT HE COULD BE CLEARED OF WATERSHED AND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS? THERE IS ALSO AN UNRESOLVED LEGAL MATTER REGARDING THIS. AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT SEVERAL OF THE PROPOSED TOWNHOME UNITS ENCROACH ON THE DRIVEWAY HAS BEEN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION SINCE THE YEAR 2000 AND UNCONTESTED BY ANY LANDOWNER. THIS SETS UP A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT CLAIM BY THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY OWNER. THE DEVELOPER HAS STATED IN EVERY ZONING MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD THAT HE WOULD CONTACT THE OWNER ABOUT THIS DRIVEWAY, BUT IN THE FOUR MONTHS SINCE THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN ISSUED, HE HAS NEVER CONTACTED THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. GARCIA, MYSELF AND FELLOW RESIDENTS OF COLLEGE PARK WILL BE WATCHING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL LEGAL CLAIMS, CITY AND STATE REQUIREMENTS ARE SATISFIED BEFORE THE FIRST TREE IS EVER CUT DOWN. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE DESTRUCTION OF THE HABITAT AND THEN FIND OUT LATER THAT THE PROPERTY IS UNBUILDABLE. OUR REQUEST IS THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS PROJECT DUE TO THE MANY LEGAL SITE AND REGULATORY CHALLENGES. THANK YO. ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? GREETINGS, MAYOR, COUNCIL FOLKS, MY NAME IS RYAN KELLY. I'M OVER ON 2041 ENGLISH LANE. I'VE BEEN TO ALL OF THESE MEETINGS WITH THE ZONING COMMITTEE, AND IT SEEMS ALMOST AS IF NOW THAT SINCE I DON'T LIVE IN EAST POINT, I DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THIS. BUT ANY OF Y'ALL LIVE WITHIN, I DON'T KNOW, 100 YARDS OF VISTA LANE OR CLOVER HURST. OKAY, WELL, I DO I MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT ON THE EAST POINT LINE. AND YOU KNOW, I GO TO GO TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT WITH MY KIDS LISTENING TO THE GUNSHOTS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE I HAVE A LOT OF STAKE IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE HELPING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SCREAMING FOR HELP TO. ALL I CAN DO IS CALL 911 AND THE BLIGHTED AREA IS OVER. THERE ARE PRETTY BAD. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THESE SMART HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO FIX ANY OF THAT. ALTHOUGH HE HE IS ERECTING A WALL AGAINST HIS NEIGHBORS, IT SEEMS TO ME THESE SMART HOMES AREN'T VERY SMART AT ALL, BUT I WILL SAY THIS THAT THE CREEK THAT COMES THROUGH THERE, CAMP CREEK, IT GOES THROUGH MY BACKYARD AND MY CHILDREN. I HAVE SEVEN OF THEM, ALL OF WHICH I'M SUPPORTING ON A SINGLE INCOME MILITARY PAYCHECK FOR HOMESCHOOLING THEM. AND I WON'T GO INTO THAT, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND CLEAN UP ALL THE GARBAGE THAT COMES THROUGH FROM EAST POINT, DOWN CAMP CREEK INTO MY YARD, AND A LOT OF IT ORIGINATES IN MR. HOOVER'S PROPERTY THAT HE'S OWNED FOR TWO YEARS. IT'S FILLED WITH GARBAGE AND TRASH, AND IT'S COMPLETELY LEFT DISARRAY. I SEE SOMEONE WHO LEAVES THEIR PROPERTY LIKE THAT.

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IF YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIS PAST, YOU CAN SEE, WELL, MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE SOME PREDICTIONS ON HOW HE'LL HANDLE THINGS IN THE FUTURE. AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAST HE'S GOT WITH CREATING ANY PROPERTY, DEVELOPING ANY PROPERTY, WHAT WHAT IS HE BUILT? LAST TIME HE WAS SPEAKING TO YOU, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT HE'S BUILT. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROMISES. HE'S GOT GRAPHICS UP HERE. HE HAS BUILDINGS BUILT ON TOP OF A PRESCRIBED EASEMENT OF A DRIVEWAY OF ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. HE WON'T EVEN SPEAK TO HIM ABOUT IT. AND YET YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON GRAPHICS THAT HE CANNOT BUILD WITHOUT RIPPING UP THE MAN'S DRIVEWAY, WHICH I DOUBT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I'VE I'VE I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY ANY ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM Y'ALL TO HELP ME WITH THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE THE DECISION MAY ALREADY BE MADE. AND IN MY MIND, PERHAPS I COULD JUST SAY, HEY, DO IT SO YOU'LL GO AGAINST IT. BUT ALL YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS NOT VOTE FOR CHANGING THE ZONES. THE ZONES ARE THERE FOR A REASON. AND THIS IS A PERFECT PROPERTY FOR BUILDING SOME SINGLE AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH YARDS FOR KIDS TO PLAY. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AREA OF WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, YOU HAVE A LOT OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER. THERE'S A LOT OF VIOLENCE OVER THERE, AND I YOU KNOW, I WORK OVER THE SIGNAL COMMAND BUILDING AND THREE 35TH ON DAUPHIN STREET. AND I'VE, I'VE BRAVED THE DRIVE BY SHOOTINGS AND HONESTLY, I WEAR A BULLETPROOF OFFICER'S BULLETPROOF VEST TO WORK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS PEOPLE ARE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER. SO. YEAH, BRING IN THE SINGLE HOME. THAT'S WHAT IT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S ZONED FOR. IT'S WHAT IT'S BEEN ZONED FOR. PROBABLY SHOULD STAY THAT WAY.

UNLESS SOMEBODY WOULD SPEAK. YOU KNOW, FOR IT. OTHER THAN THE MAN WHO DOESN'T EVEN LIVE THERE. AND HE SAYS HE'LL LIVE THERE. ALL SOUNDS GREAT, RIGHT? HE'S GOING TO LIVE IN THE MODEL HOME. I GOT IT, BUT HE DOESN'T LIVE THERE. I DO, AND SO DOES HE AND EVERYONE ELSE. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE.

EVERYBODY ON THE STREET HAS CALLED IN ABOUT THIS AND VOICED OPPOSITION. AND NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON THAT LIVES IN EAST POINT HAS SAID ANYTHING IN FAVOR OF THIS. NO ONE. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS CONTINUES, BUT IT DOES. MR. GARCIA. SO I THINK THAT AT LEAST HE SHOULD HAVE THE RESPECT TO AT LEAST BE SPOKEN TO ABOUT HIS PROPERTY. HAVING SOMETHING ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE SOMEBODY'S ALREADY TALKING ABOUT BUILDING SOMETHING ON THE MAN'S DRIVEWAY WITHOUT EVEN SPEAKING TO HIM. AND IT'S ALREADY HERE FOR YOU TO VOTE ON IT. AND IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME. AND REALLY, ALL THIS LOOKS REALLY GOOD, DOESN'T IT? 500, $600,000 TOWNHOMES, RIGHT? WITH THE UNDERGROUND RETENTION POOL, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE QUARTZ COUNTERTOPS AND THE CROWN MOLDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT I PROMISE YOU, WHATEVER SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE GENERALLY I.

SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY, I ASK THAT YOU DON'T REZONE ANYTHING. MAYBE THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO DENY OR JUST JUST ABSTAIN. DOESN'T IT TAKE A QUORUM TO VOTE? YOU SAY VOTE. WE SHOULD AT LEAST BE A MAJORITY. JUST DON'T DON'T VOTE AT ALL. AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HELP US ANYWAY. SO HAVE MERCY ON ME. I'M ASKING YOU REALLY FROM I'M PLEADING ON YOU. DON'T CHANGE THESE ZONES. I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE. I WANT A SAFE PLACE FOR MY FAMILY. AND IT'S GETTING TO WHERE WE HAVE NOWHERE LEFT TO GO. SO. AND. AND REALLY, NEITHER DO THE DEER HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO. YOU CUT DOWN THE TREES. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? THE. THE TREES HAVE BEEN THERE. THEY KEEP THE PLACE COOL FOR US. IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU WOULD GO DOWN THERE, YOU WOULD SEE THE PEACEFUL TRANQUILITY OF THE AREA AND YOU'RE SEEING WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON. WE'LL DESTROY IT AND IT WILL REPLACE IT WITH MORE OF THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX. SO MAYBE SOME OF THAT BLIGHTED AREA THAT'S ALREADY THERE. THE BUILDINGS ARE ARE NAILED UP. THE WINDOWS ARE NAILED UP. NOBODY'S LIVING THERE. MAYBE THE CITY COULD CONDEMN SOME OF THAT AND GIVE THAT TO HIM. AND MR. SUBER COULD, COULD BUILD THESE, THESE TOWNHOMES INTO PLACES ALREADY ZONED FOR, FOR THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND I, I'M LOOKING AT THAT CLOCK. I GUESS I GOT TIRED OF HEARING WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, BUT IF IT MEANS ANYTHING TO YOU, I'M BEGGING YOU, PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON ME AND MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS AND VOTE NO ON THIS PROJECT OVER. ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT? I MEAN, TO THE REZONING. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION MADE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION ON THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? DO THE APPLICANT GET TO REBUTTAL? HE DIDN'T RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. COUNCIL MEMBER.

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THOMAS. MISS. KIMBERLY, NO, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. SO AFTER WE FINISH THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN DO A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. AND THEN. YEAH, ANY ATTORNEY HARTLEY, THERE WASN'T A REQUEST TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SO. OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MISS KIMBERLY, QUESTION I CAN ASK. MISS KIMBERLY SO THE INFAMOUS IS A DRIVEWAY EASEMENT. HAVE WE AND I'M ASSUMING THE OWNER IS MR. GARCIA. HAVE THEY SPOKEN WITH HIM? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THIS IS A STATEMENT THAT THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY. SO IF WE DID APPROVE IT, WOULD THERE BE AN ISSUE? IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO COME UP WITH HIM BUILDING ON HIS DRIVEWAY? I WOULDN'T BE AT LIBERTY TO SPEAK ON THAT. WE'RE HERE FOR THE ZONING PETITION. BUT YEAH, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT. OKAY. BUT THE THING IS, IF WE VOTED AND WE APPROVED IT, HE MOVES FORWARD. BUT THEN IF THE PROPERTY OWNER COMES AND SAYS, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD OR DO WHATEVER ON MY PROPERTY. SO SHOULD WE NOT HAVE THAT CLEARED UP FIRST OR THE PETITION THAT HE PUT FORWARD THIS EVENING IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHAT ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IN REFERENCE TO LAND DISTURBANCE, LAND DISTURBANCE WOULD COME THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCESS. SO IF ANY ISSUE COMES UP IN REFERENCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY DISTURBING THE LAND, PROPERTY DISPUTES THAT'S HANDLED THROUGH THE LAND DISTURBANCE PROCESS, THROUGH THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS, IT WOULDN'T BE TAKEN UP PRIOR TO THE PROPERTY BEING REZONED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED R-1, A OKAY, OKAY. GOT THAT. MY NEXT QUESTION IS I, I ACTUALLY DROVE AND WENT OVER THERE AND LOOKED AT IT. SO IF I'M COMING ON DUNLAP, I KNOW THERE ARE EXISTING APARTMENTS ON THE LEFT SIDE. HIS PROPERTY IS ON THE RIGHT, CORRECT. I SAW THE HUGE WOODED AREA AND THERE'S A HUGE IT'S A DROP. IT'S A DROP OFF. CORRECT. SO YOU HAVE TO BUILD ALL OF THAT UP. ALL THAT STUFF HAVE TO BE BUILT UP AND THEN BUILT UPON OR THAT AGAIN IS LAND DISTURBANCE. IT WOULD DEAL WITH ENGINEERING THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER. THAT WOULD BE UP TO THEM HOW THEY DESIGN THE PROPERTY. IF THEY NEED TO BUILD UP THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEIR ENGINEER WOULD HANDLE AT THAT TIME. AND IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING. OKA, I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST I'M JUST I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I'M NOT A BUILDER. SO I DON'T KNOW. SO I'M JUST ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. BUT IF I PURCHASE A PROPERTY, I WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING ON IT. I NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE, SOME SOME ZONING AND STUFF CHANGED, BUT I NEED TO KNOW IF I'LL BE ABLE TO EVEN DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF THEY AREN'T GOING TO LET US, YOU KNOW, IF I CAN'T BUILD UP, IF I IF I HAVE TO BUILD ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING IF MR. GARCIA SAYS IT'S A HARD NO. BUT I MEAN, WE'VE GONE THERE AND WE'VE REZONED THIS PROPERTY.

WE'VE WE'VE REZONED ALL THIS STUFF, AND THEN NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT. SO, BUT I, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS JUST A PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH. SO IF HE BUYS IT AND THEN IF IT GOES THROUGH THE LAND DISTURBANCE, PEOPLE AND THEY SAY NO, THEN HE'S JUST IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF LAND OR PROPERTY DISPUTE BETWEEN TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT WOULD BE A CIVIL CASE AND IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE CITY'S PURVIEW, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD NOW.

OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD. ATTORNEY. I HAVE A QUESTION. HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT.

COUNCILMEMBER. ATTORNEY HARTLEY, I THINK WHAT MISS SMITH IS ATTEMPTING TO DO IS TO ENSURE THAT THE REZONING APPLICATION ISN'T THAT WE DON'T CREATE CHALLENGES OR ISSUES IF WE'RE CONSIDERING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF IT, BUT WE'RE IN A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON IT. SO, NO, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU COULD KIND OF HELP US THREAD THAT NEEDLE TO ADDRESS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS IS ASKING. FROM AN EXPLANATION OF HOW IT WORKS NOT TO NECESSARILY CONFOUND THE REZONING PROCESS, BUT HELP US THREAD THAT NEEDLE IF WE CAN. IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE

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FORWARD. MAYOR, I THINK STAFF'S EXPLANATION OF THE PROCESS IS CORRECT. THE WHAT YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO DO IS MAKE A LEGISLATIVE DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO REZONE IT FROM ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO A DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION. SO IS IT IS IT APPROPRIATE FROM A USE STANDPOINT TO PUT TOWNHOMES HERE VERSUS WHATEVER IS ALLOWED IN R-1, A SINGLE FAMILY, HOMES OR WHATEVER IS ALLOWED UNDER YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE? THE ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED AS IT RELATES TO PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENTS OR DRIVEWAYS OR TOPOGRAPHY OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE APART FROM AND ARE NOT REALLY FOR CONSIDERATION FOR YOU AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE USE IS PROPER. SO YOUR FOCUS IS THE USE PROPER AND SHOULD IT WHICH ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS CORRECT? THE OTHER ISSUES ARE ISSUES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE. CERTAINLY. AND COULD ULTIMATELY AFFECT THE ABILITY OF THE OWNER TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY, GET IT, BE COST PROHIBITIVE, WHETHER THEY CHOSE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BEFORE BRINGING IT TO REZONING, WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WILL DO, THEY'LL HIRE ENGINEERS UP FRONT. YOU'LL OFTEN SEE SITE PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT ARE SUBMITTED THAT ACTUALLY HAVE TOP LINES ON THEM, SO THAT THAT FOLKS KNOW UP FRONT HOW MUCH DIRT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE, EITHER BRINGING IN DIRT OR MOVING DIRT AROUND OR ALL THE REST. BUT THAT IS NOT REQUIRED FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT. AND APPARENTLY THIS DEVELOPER HAS NOT CHOSEN TO DO IT IN THAT MANNER. AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT THOSE ARE DEFINITELY ISSUES THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE. AND SO IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE. THAT THAT CLEARS UP A LOT OF STUFF, CLEARS MUD. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. SO ALONG THE SAME LINES AS COUNCILWOMAN STARR, I DO HAVE MY CONCERNS.

AND THEY BROUGHT UP SOME SOME THEY SEEM LIKE THEY'RE VALID AND BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I DID HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT WE WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS WITH NINE CONDITIONS. DID YOU TAKE ALL OF THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU APPROVED IT? AND THEN AND DOES THIS INCLUDE THE NEW DRIVEWAY THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT IN IF I, IF I HEARD THAT CORRECTLY, WHICH DRIVEWAY. YEAH. SO DURING THE PRESENTATION IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT I THINK EVEN LAST TIME, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HE WAS GOING TO PUT IN ANOTHER DRIVEWAY. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ENTRANCE? YES.

I'M SORRY, THE ENTRANCE. SORRY. THE APPLICANT PROPOSED AN ENTRANCE. THAT IS FROM EAST POINT. IT DOES NOT COME OFF OF ENGLISH LANE, WHICH IS THE CITY OF COLLEGE PARK. ENTRANCE THAT WAS PROPOSED INITIALLY. SO HE CHANGED THE ENTRANCE. OKAY. HE SAID IT'S NOT IN THE FRONT.

OKAY. AND THEN ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE? IS THIS CONSTRUCTION? WOULD THAT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LAWS? I GUESS THAT'S MY OTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE SOME CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT UP FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE. SO CITY ATTORNEY HARTLEY, IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO THAT, AGAIN, I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS THAT IN THE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, THERE WERE A LOT OF NON ZONING ISSUES RAISED AND SUGGESTION THAT THOSE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THIS COUNCIL TONIGHT. SO THE QUESTION IS LEGALLY CAN THAT BE DONE. I THINK THAT GOES TO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL'S QUESTION OF THE LEGALITY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND AGAIN KIND OF THREADING THE NEEDLE OF WHAT THIS PROCESS IS AND WHAT IT IS NOT. AND WHEN LEGALLY THOSE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED AND WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD ADDRESS OR WOULD BE ADDRESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY OR THROUGH COURT PROCEEDINGS OR THROUGH REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS AS IT RELATES TO EASEMENTS AND THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE MATTERS THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING ACTION. THOSE WOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. SO WHEN AN APPLICANT WANTS TO PULL THEIR BUILDING PERMITS OR THEIR DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT CERTAIN DOCUMENTATION TO THE CITY TO REVIEW. SO IS THERE OR STATE ORDERS ON THE PROPERTY? THERE ARE STATE MANDATED BUFFERS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL CITY

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BUFFERS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHARE THE STATE WATERS ON THEIR SITE PLAN, AND THEY COULD NOT BUILD WITHIN THE STREAM BUFFER. IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD WITHIN THE STREAM BUFFER, THEN THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE STREAM BUFFER ISSUE. AT LEAST, AND REQUEST A VARIANCE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IN THE STREAM BUFFER, OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO REDESIGN THEIR PLAN SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IN THE STREAM BUFFER, SO THAT THAT WOULD BE HANDLED AT THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. THERE COULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE STREAM BUFFER, THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. THAT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED TONIGHT. THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED TONIGHT IS THE IS THE LAND USE PORTION OF THE DECISION. SO THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON IN THE FUTURE. BUT SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS, THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON IN THE FUTURE. THOSE WOULD JUST BE HANDLED AT A DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF LEVEL, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SOME DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT PRESENT KIND OF DIFFERENT, LIKE THE DRIVEWAY EASEMENT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD EVER GET INVOLVED IN. BUT IF THERE IS A STREAM BUFFER ISSUE, THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THE COUNCIL COULD GET INVOLVED IN BECAUSE IF THEY WANT TO ENCROACH IN THAT STREAM BUFFER, THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN THINGS THAT STAFF CAN DO ADMINISTRATIVELY. THE REST WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AS A REQUEST TO HAVE A VARIANCE TO THEIR STREAM BUFFER. SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GIVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER BECAUSE IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH PIECE OF IT IS INVOLVED. BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE THAT WOULD EITHER COME BACK TO YOU IF THEY NEEDED TO, OR STAFF WOULD JUST HANDLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE. THANK YOU. SO I THINK ALL THIS IS PERTINENT INFORMATION IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO REZONE IT AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THE LAND FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, I THINK. AND I AGAIN, TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THIS REZONING AND POTENTIAL CHALLENGES, ATTORNEY HARTLEY IS SHARING WITH US LEGALLY WHAT WE CAN CONSIDER IN THIS ZONING DECISION VERSUS THOSE THINGS THAT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AND WHAT WOULD BE DONE LATER. AND IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, GIVEN THE LITIGIOUS NATURE OF ZONING THAT WE THREAD THIS NEEDLE VERY CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING OURSELVES IN A POSITION FOR FUTURE LITIGATION. ANYTHING ELSE THAT I YIELD? THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLI I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. I THINK I SHOULD I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST SORT OF ANSWERED IT. I WAS I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE WAS SOME SOMEWHERE ON ONE OF THE MAPS THAT WAS PRESENTED THAT WOULD SHOW THIS SORT OF DRIVEWAY EASEMENT DISPUTE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE SHOULD NOT PURSUE THAT ANY FURTHER IN THIS CONTEXT, ATTORNEY HARTLEY, IS THAT CORRECT OR. I RIGHT, I BELIEVE THAT IS A DEVELOPMENT ISSUE AND ALSO A PRIVATE PARTY ISSUE THAT IF THE PERSON HAS A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT, THEN HE WOULD HAVE TO SEEK TO ENFORCE THAT EASEMENT CIVILLY. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE AN EASEMENT BETWEEN TWO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD ENFORCE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE THROUGH FULTON COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. AND JUST ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. THE ENTRANCE, THE EGRESS INGRESS THAT'S SETTLED. THAT WAS AGREED TO BY THE DEVELOPER. IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU. YES. HERE IS THE EITHER OR TO YEAH. TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE APPLICANT DID AGREE TO AN ENTRANCE THAT IS GOING TO BE FROM EAST POINT, THE CITY, EAST POINT STREET AND THIS IS A DISPLAY OF WHAT HE HAS PROPOSED. AND ALSO WE PLACED IT AS A CONDITION AS WELL. MAYOR INGRAM, YOU ASKED IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT I CAN COME UP WITH SOME NEW RENDERS AND CREATE A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE AND SHOW THAT. AND I DID SO. SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS, IS THE ROSE, WHICH IS AN ABANDONED ROAD RIGHT NOW NOT BEING USED. MY GOAL WAS OR MY GOAL IS ACTUALLY TO BUILD A ROAD THERE. AND OF COURSE, TO TURN IT OVER TO EAST POINT. IT WOULD BE A BRAND NEW ROAD. IT'LL BE

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CONNECTING FROM WEST FERRIS AND LA ROSE, AND IT WILL RUN ALL THE WAY THROUGH 100% EAST POINT.

THIS IS HAS NO INTERFERENCE WITH COLLEGE PARK. THIS IS NOT A COLLEGE PARK PROJECT. THE INGRESS AND EGRESS IS NOT COLLEGE PARK. IT IS 100% EAST POINT PROJECT THAT IS A COST THAT I WOULD HAVE TO INCUR. BUT AGAIN, I BELIEVE IN THIS PROJECT SO MUCH I AM WILLING TO DO SO.

SO THAT IS THAT IS THE VIEW THAT'S ACTUALLY THE ABANDONED ROAD THAT WOULD BE BUILT. YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THAT SIDE AS WELL. AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER VIEW OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT. IT WOULD BE ALL LIT AT NIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION FOR THE SECOND TIME, FOR COMING BACK WITH THE UPDATES. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE, MOST RECENTLY WHEN WE DEALT WITH THE TOWNHOMES OVER AT LAKESIDE PRESERVE, AND THESE WERE SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS. HOW MANY RESIDENTS, THOSE 30 PLUS RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT AND SPOKE AGAINST THOSE TOWNHOMES BEING BUILT IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THEM. IT WAS BECAUSE OF THEY WERE TOWNHOMES, NOT HOMES.

SO THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. THESE ARE MORE HIGH END THAN WHAT THOSE WERE OR YOU CONSIDERED THEM. YOU CAN SAY THEY'RE THE SAME, BUT THESE ARE THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT THOSE RESIDENTS HAD. THEY SHARED THE SAME CONCERNS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT HE'S GOING TO BUILD. OR LIKE THE ATTORNEY SAI, IF THERE ANYTHING AS FAR AS THE STREAM THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR DO ANYTHING TO THAT. SO IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE ON DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. AND I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS TILL AFTER COUNCIL MAKES DECISIONS AS TO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE. BUT THIS IS DEJA VU. SO THERE IS BEFORE US AN ORDINANCE OR REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP. CITY OF EAST POINT FOR ZERO. DUNLAP AVENUE REZONING AND CONCURRENT VARIANCES FROM R-1, A OR URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO TT RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME COUNCIL HAS A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER MORE INFORMATION IS NEEDED. THOSE QUESTIONS PROBABLY SHOULD HAPPEN OFFLINE OR HAVE STAFF SHARE WHATEVER INFORMATION PEOPLE FEEL THEY NEED PRIOR TO MAKING A DECISION. AS IT RELATES TO HIS RELEVANCE THAT WERE IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO DEFER AND THEN IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT, THERE IS THIS IS AN ORDINANCE. SO THERE WOULD BE NEED TO BE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING, WHICH HAS TO BE APPROVED BY TWO THIRDS VOTE OF I BELIEVE IT'S THOSE PRESENT. CAN YOU PULL THAT UP FOR ME REALLY QUICKLY REGARDING WAIVER, THE FIRST MEETING I KNOW IT IS TWO THIRDS VOTE AND THEN IF THAT MOTION PASSES, IT WOULD BE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE. SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS BEFORE COUNCIL TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE WAIVER OF FIRST READING REQUIRES. I KNOW IT'S TWO THIRDS, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S THOSE PRESENT OR THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

SO MAYOR, THE LANGUAGE IS IN RULE 16. IT SAYS NO LESS THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL

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MEMBERS PRESENT AT ANY MEETING OF THE COUNCIL DULY CONVENED, AT WHICH POINT A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

SO IT'S TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT. THE I GUESS IT'S TWO OPTIONS. OPTION TWO TAKING ACTION TONIGHT HAS TWO STEPS. AND SO I STILL DON'T SEE AS DESIRES. SO THE FIRST THING IS TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. CORRECT. YES. IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT.

YES I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING QUESTION DISCUSSION. SO LET ME SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND ON THAT AND I'LL COME TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION. THE MOTION THE ORDINANCE IS TWO THIRDS TO SIX VOTES. TWO THIRDS OF THOSE PRESENT. SO IS FIVE. THAT WOULD BE FOUR. AND IF WE DON'T WAIVE THE FIRST READING TONIGHT, THEN THE MOTION, THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. CORRECT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO. SO I KNOW WE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT CAN'T BE CONSIDERED AND WE CAN'T ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION. SO I THINK THE ATTORNEY HARTLEY IS PROVIDED SOME LEGAL ADVICE TONIGHT. AND SO BUT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER, IF STAFF I MEAN YOU CAN ASK THOSE OFFLINE. BUT THERE'S ALSO WHAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THIS STAGE AND WHAT IS FOR LATER, EVEN IF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED, I MEAN, ON ANY ITEM YOU CAN ASK STAFF QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ROLL CALL, PLEASE. SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL. MEMBER FREELY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. MAYOR.

HOLIDAY. SO IS IT. AM I INCLUDED IN THE COUNT? YOU DON'T VOTE, MAYOR. I VOTE ONLY IF THERE'S A TIE. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR HOLIDAY AND THE MOTION PASS. NOW, LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO THE CHARTER PROVISION THAT REQUIRES FIVE VOTES FOR ANYTHING TO PASS BY THIS COUNCIL. AND THIS HAS COME UP ON ANOTHER ITEM. AND SO I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE JUST DEFERRED TO YOU BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID THAT THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT OF FIVE VOTES, AFFIRMATIVE FOR ANY ACTION BY THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T, CANNOT BE SUPERSEDED BY. IT SAYS, IT TAKES FIVE TO VOTE TO APPROVE ANY ITEM OF COUNCIL THAT'S IN THE CHARTE. SO, MAYOR, THE CHARTER IS THE HIGHEST GOVERNING DOCUMENT OF THE CITY. SO YOU CANNOT ADOPT AN ORDINANCE OR RULE OR REGULATION.

THAT WOULD BE IN CONFLICT OR BE LESS THAN THE CITY CHARTER. SO IF YOU HAVE A RULE THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE ALLOW SOMETHING, STILL, THE CITY CHARTER IS GOING TO GOVERN. SO IF THE CITY CHARTER HAS A REQUIRED A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF FIVE VOTES, THEN THE CHARTER IS GOING TO TAKE PRECEDENT OVER YOUR OTHER RULE OR ORDINANCE.

2-206 QUORUM AND VOTING ATTORNE.

IS CORRECT. MAYOR. THE LANGUAGE SAYS AT THE END ANY ORDINANCE, RESOLUTION OR MOTION. SO THE FIVE VOTE REQUIREMENT IS NOT JUST LIMITED TO AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION. SO IN THIS SITUATION, IT'S A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READ. SO THE MOTION WOULD REQUIRE FIVE VOTES UNDER THE CHARTER IN ORDER TO PASS. WHAT WAS THE VOTE AGAIN MADAM CITY CLERK, IT WAS FOUR

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ONE. SO THE MOTION FAILED BASED OFF OF WHAT ATTORNEY HARTLEY SAID. SO THEN THAT MEANS THIS ITEM WOULD GO TO THE NOVEMBER FOURTH AGENDA. AT THAT TIME, THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR THE FIRST READING. I GUESS WE HAVE IT TONIGHT. DO I READ THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT? THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT? TONIGHT YOU WOULD READ AS YOUR FIRST READ SINCE THE WAIVER OF THE FIRST READ DID NOT PASS. THEN IT GOES TO YOUR NEXT MEETING, YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING FOR THE SECOND READ AND FINAL ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND WHAT CONSTITUTES THE FIRST READ? I THINK HEARING THE ITEM, READING THE TITLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE FULL ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO HAVE THE FIRST READ. OKAY, SO I JUST READ THE TITLE OF IT. OKAY. FOR THE FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT FOR ZERO DUNLAP AVENUE REZONING WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCES FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, TO RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOMES ZONING DISTRICT. AND THEN MADAM CITY CLERK. THIS WOULD GO ON THE AGENDA AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR COUNCIL ACTION ON NOVEMBER. FOURTH. ALRIGHTY. NEXT UP IS

[X.6. FY2025 Budget Amendment #1]

PUBLIC HEARING ON FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. I AM ASKING SHANNON GOLDEN TO COME UP AND PRESENT THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TONIGHT. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IF WE CAN START WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SHANNON GOLDEN, INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR. AND TO MY LEFT I HAVE MISS ELIZABETH CARTWRIGHT. SHE IS OUR NEW BUDGET MANAGER. SHE COMES FROM SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, THE CITY OF SAVANNAH AND RINCON. TONIGHT, FINANCE IS GOING TO PRESENT THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT.

WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME. AND IN THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, WE HAVE REVENUES FROM OUR INSURANCE PROCEEDS AS WELL AS FUND BALANCE. THAT'S GOING TO FOR REVENUE PURPOSES, FUNDED EXPENDITURES FOR NEW POSITIONS. THESE DEPARTMENTAL POSITIONS ARE FOR THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE A LEGAL ASSISTANT FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND FINANCES REQUESTING A SENIOR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE POSITION. AND THE REMAINDER OF FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THIS IS BUDGET NEUTRAL FOR THE POSITIONS. WE WERE ABLE TO CUT SOME OF OUR BUDGET BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ACCUSTOM FOR THE FOR THE POSITIONS. NEXT SLIDE IN OUR FUND, WHICH IS OUR CAPITAL COMPENSATED ASSET ASSETS. I'M SORRY WE'VE TAKEN FUND BALANCE FROM THERE TO PURCHASE OR OR FINANCE TEN NEW POLICE VEHICLES FOR DAILY OPERATIONS. IN OUR RESTRICTED GRANTS FUND, WE HAVE NEW GRANT AWARDS. ONE IS THE M M LEE GRANT, WHICH IS OUR ECONOMIC MOBILITY LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE THAT'S AWARDED THROUGH THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MAYOR ASSOCIATION. AND OUR SECOND GRANT THAT WE'RE INCREASING OUR REVENUES IN GRANT FUND IS FROM THE EPA, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FOR OUR WATER AND SEWER IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.6 MILLION. THE M LA GRANT WILL FUND OPERATIONS. THAT'S OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY INCLUSION. THE EPA GRANT AGAIN FOR WATER AND SEWER, THE WATER AND SEWER TREATMENT PLANT, CAPITAL PROJECTS. FOR OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, FUND, WE HAVE SEVERAL FUNDING SOURCES AGAIN, THAT TRANSFER IN FROM THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL AS OUR RESTRICTED GRANT FUND, WHICH IS ARPA FUNDS AND OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND. BALANCE OF 1.8 MILLION. AND WHAT THIS DOES IS IT'S GOING TO FUND THESE EXPENDITURES FOR THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS, FOR THE FOLLOWING DEPARTMENTS LEGAL

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OFFICE AND BATHROOM RENOVATIONS, PROCUREMENT. IT ALSO HAS WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE RENOVATIONS, FIRE DEPARTMENT IS RENOVATING FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE, AS WELL AS FIRE STATION NUMBER FIVE. THEY ALSO HAVE BAY DOORS AS WELL AS A FIRE ENGINE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PURCHASE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE ASKING FOR LAPTOPS. ALSO. THEY HAVE THEY NEED PRECINCT FURNITURE FOR THE BRETT'S LOCATION AS WELL AS THE WASHINGTON ROAD LOCATION PLANNING AND ZONING IS TRYING TO FINISH UP THE KIOSK INSTALLATION FROM 24. SO THEY'RE ROLLING THOSE FUNDS OVER TO FINISH UP THAT PROJECT. AND OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ALSO HAS CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE CENTER AND BROOKDALE PARKS. NEXT SLIDE. ELECTRIC FUND ARE ARE USING MCT PROCEEDS FROM NEAC THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. BUT THOSE FUNDS WEREN'T REQUESTED UNTIL THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO THOSE REVENUES WILL BE RECOGNIZED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR TO THE FUND EXPENDITURES FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS RELATED TO THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS, TRANSFORMER PURCHASES AND MATERIALS. SO IN THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL, WE'RE TAKING OUR BUDGET A GRAND TOTAL OF 209,965,678 AND ADDING REVENUES OF 8.5 MILLION TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET TO TWO POINT, I'M SORRY, 218,000,544 130. OKAY. QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT. NOT DURING THIS PART. WE'LL COME BACK IN A MINUTE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FY 2020 FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT? ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR TO THE AMENDMENT? FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025. THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, ANY OPPOSITION, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO IT'S BEEN SECONDED. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION? AND POSSIBLE ACTION CAN BE MADE AT THIS TIME TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION. OR IF THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TAKEN, IT WOULD BE THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. MADAM MAYOR. YES, COUNCILMAN. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. I NEED TO SEE ONE THING. SO THAT IS THE 21ST. OKA.

OOPS. THE ORDINANCE FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS TITLED AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, GEORGIA, TO AMEND THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2025, TO PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, IS THERE ANY ACTION ON THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE? IS THERE ANY MOTION ON THE SHROPSHIRE? MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FY 25 BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, SECOND AND MOVE THEM PROPERLY.

SECONDED THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET FOR THE YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2025. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT U, PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? THIS EVENING?

[XI. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. OKAY. CHAPTER TWO, SECTION 2-2002B RULE 28. THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS

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MUST COMPLETE A COMMENT FORM PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. SUBJECT MAY INCLUDE ANY SUBJECT OF CHOICE. THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER. SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MAY GIVE ALL OR PART OF THEIR TIME, UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME. SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING. QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EAST POINT RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER. SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITY SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE FOREGOING. MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU CAN CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. ALL RIGHT. FIRST WE HAVE ANITRA MATHIS. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ARNITA MATHIS. I SAID 2628 WITH VALLEY DRIVE. AND I'M HERE TODAY AS A TAXPAYER ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. I HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS GRANDCHILD.

AND IN MY YARD IS A STORM DRAIN THAT HAS OPENED UP, DETERIORATED. IT'S ABOUT FOUR FEET WIDE AND I HAVE CALLED EAST POINT AND MY NEIGHBOR IS IT'S ON MY PROPERTY LINE AND MY NEIGHBOR PROPERTY THAT IS ON IS A SENIOR. HE HAS SOME CHALLENGING MEDICAL PROBLEMS, WHICH I WON'T SAY AND I'M AFRAID FOR HIS SAFETY ALSO. ALSO, I'M AFRAID FOR MY GRANDCHILD SAFETY BECAUSE HE'S SPECIAL NEEDS AND HE'S ALWAYS RUNNING AND THE HOLE GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER EVERY TIME IT RAINS.

HIS SISTER USUALLY TRY TO HELP HIM OUT. THEY HAVE PUT IN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS TO THE CITY.

THEY KEEP TELLING THEM IT'S NOT HIS PROBLEM. THEY WENT IN AND DID AN ESTIMATE. WANT HIM TO DO EXPLORATORY REPAIRS, WHICH IS GOING TO RUN OVER 40 TO $60,000. HE'S ON A FIXED INCOME AND THIS HOLE SITS AT MY PROPERTY LINE. I HAVE SOME PICTURES. YOU WANT TO PASS IT OVER? HERE. I PUT UP A ROPE, A BARRIER AROUND IT BECAUSE IT DETERIORATES EVERY TIME IT RAINS. THE HOLE GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER. SO I NEED SOME HELP. I NEED SOMEONE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M HERE. THANK YOU. SO ALSO IN IN A COUPLE OF THE EMAILS THAT HAS BEEN SENT, IT SAYS THAT IF THIS HOLE IS NOT FIXED, THE DRAIN STONE IS NOT FIXED. IT WILL CAUSE INTERNAL STRUCTURE TO THE STREET. AND I'M THINKING, WHY IS IT ONE NEIGHBOR, ONE PERSON RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX SOMETHING THAT SUPPORT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY? EFFORTS TO DRAIN STORM IT, SUPPORT THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WHY IS IT HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE THIS FIXED? THEY ALSO TOLD ME THEY CAN PUT A LIEN ON THEIR HOUSE IF THEY FIX IT. BUT MY THING IS WE NEED SOME HELP. HE NEEDS SOME HELP. I NEED SOME HELP. SO I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO GIVE US SOME TYPE OF ASSISTANCE TO GET THIS REPAIRED. AND BASICALLY, WHAT? DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE CAN'T RESPOND, BUT WE'VE BEEN LISTENING AND TAKING NOTES IN OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER IS THERE AS WELL. AND SO WE'VE HEARD YOU AND WE'LL SHARE THAT INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE STAFF HAS THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY WE PUT IN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS AND HAVE CALLED IN AND NOTHING STILL HASN'T BEEN DONE. THANK YOU ALL. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT WE HAVE MISS DEBORAH HARGROVE. I DO NOT SEE HER IN HERE. ALL RIGHT, MISTER RYAN.

KELLY. AND HE SPOKE EARLIER. AND MR. RICHARD PIERCE ALSO SPOKE EARLIER. AND HONESTLY, EITHER ONE OF THEM HERE. SO THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHTY. NEXT

[XII. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

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UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH ARE ITEMS TEN THROUGH 1520, 23 AND 24. GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TEN THROUGH 15, 20, 23 AND 24. IS THERE A SECOND? SHE SAYS SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR

[XIII.7. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Medicare Advantage Retiree Insurance and Dental Insurance FY25 Renewals]

FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. RETIREE INSURANCE AND DENTAL INSURANCE. FISCAL YEAR 25 RENEWALS. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? HI. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES MISS JESSIE, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. YOU ALL DISCUSSED THIS AT A PREVIOUS MEETING.

HOWEVER, WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE, IT WAS ONLY MADE FOR THE MEDICAL AND NOT MEDICARE ADVANTAGE AND DENTAL AND FOR THE RECORD, WE NEED EACH ONE OF THOSE LINES OF SERVICE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. AND FROM THE ACTION ITEM, THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PROGRAM, THE COST WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $89,400. THAT WE DISCUSSED ABSORBING PREVIOUSLY. AND THEN FOR DENTAL WITH AETNA, THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $19,960, WHICH WE DISCUSSED ABSORBING PREVIOUSLY AS WELL. SO THAT'S 89,000 419,960. YES, MA'AM. IS THERE ANY ACTION FROM COUNCIL STAFF? IS ASKING THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED MOVING FORWARD BASED ON THE DISCUSSION AND THE TIMING, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE. BUT NEED THIS OFFICIAL ACTION. IT WAS PLACED ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA INDICATED ACTION MAY BE TAKEN SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP ON THE NEW OPEN ENROLLMENT SCHEDUL. MADAM MAYOR. YES, COUNCILMEMBER. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE RETIREE INSURANCE AND DENTAL INSURANCE FOR FY 25 RENEWAL. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER. SO WHEN WE VOTED PREVIOUSLY, WHICH I VOTED NO PREVIOUSLY, WAS THAT A MISSTATEMENT OR OR DID WE JUST INTENTIONALLY VOTE ON THE MEDICAL? NO. IT WASN'T A MISSTATEMENT. I BELIEVE THE INTENT FOLLOWING THE DISCUSSION WAS TO APPROVE ALL THREE AND TO ABSORB THE COSTS. BUT WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE, ONLY THE MEDICAL INSURANCE WAS MENTIONED.

WHAT WAS THE COST OF MEDICAL INSURANCE? WAS THE 800,000 SOMETHING? YES, MA'AM. SO HOW IF THIS DOESN'T PASS THIS EVENING, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE PREVIOUS ACTION? I THINK WE ASSUMED WE TOOK IT WOULD HAVE NO BEARING ON THE MEDICAL, THE MEDICAL THAT WAS APPROVED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING WAS THE MEDICAL FOR CURRENT EMPLOYEES. MEDICARE ADVANTAGE IS COVERAGE FOR OUR RETIREES AND DENTAL WOULD BE THE DENTAL FOR EMPLOYEES. SO THEY DON'T NEGATE EACH OTHER. THEY WERE JUST LEFT OUT OF THE MOTIO. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL I KIND OF HAVE THE SAME QUESTION. SO SAY IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, COULD WE COULD A MOTION BE MADE TO ABSORB THE COST OF THE LEFTOVER? I GUESS INSURANCE PLANS? WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE? AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PAYING 100% OF EVERYTHING, RIGHT? YES. NO, IT WOULD STAY THE SAME WITH THE CITY PAYING ALL OF THE COSTS,

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AND WE WOULD. THE IDEA WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO ABSORB THE INCREASE FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE AND ALSO THE INCREASE FOR DENTAL. AND HOW MUCH WAS THAT THAT WAS SET? AROUND 89,000. THE INCREASE FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE IS 89,400. AND FOR DENTAL, $19,960. OKAY. AND THIS WOULD COVER US FOR PLAN YEAR THAT STARTS JANUARY 1ST, 2025. OKAY. THANK YOU. MADAM MEMBER THANK YOU, MISS JESSIE. JUST FOR CLARITY, THE WE'RE NOT PAYING 100% OF THE EMPLOYEES INSURANCE.

NO, MA'AM. WE'RE NOT. WE HAVE A CURRENT COST SHARE BETWEEN THE CITY AND EMPLOYEES. SO THE EMPLOYEES PAY A PORTION AND WE PAY A PORTION. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT WAS THE NOTION THAT WAS PUT OUT THAT WE'RE PAYING 100%, BUT WE'RE ONLY PAYING THE ADDITIONAL COST. WHAT IT WOULD HAVE COST THEM TO KEEP FROM PUTTING THAT ON THEM. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT ADDITIONAL COST IS WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND SO IF YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, IT WAS ON THE AGENDA EARLY AND THEN WE TABLED IT. AND TO COME BACK AFTER WE DID THE MILLAGE RATE ADOPTION AND THEN WHEN WE CAME BACK AFTER THAT AND REMOVED IT FROM THE TABLE, THE MOTION WAS AND I WENT BACK AND LISTENED. IT WAS JUST HEALTH CARE FOR EMPLOYEES AND THAT DIDN'T TRIGGER ANY LIKE, OH, WE NEED TO DO A SEPARATE BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE DONE THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS, RIGHT? OR WE COULD HAVE DONE A MOTION THAT COMBINED ALL THREE. THAT MOTION ONLY DEALT WITH THE INCREASE IN HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, WHICH WAS A LITTLE OVER $800,000. SO THAT MOTION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR HEALTH CARE. THE OTHER TWO THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT DISCUSSION, BUT NOT INCLUDED IN THAT MOTION. AND THEN WE DIDN'T DO A SEPARATE MOTION FOR EACH OF THEM FOR THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, FOR THE RETIREES. SO THE INCREASE IN INSURANCE. SO BASICALLY, WHAT THEY'RE PAYING NOW, THE EMPLOYEES, THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED. SO WHAT THE EMPLOYEES PAY NOW, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PAY THE SAME AMOUNT THEIR THEIR AMOUNT WON'T GO UP, BUT THEY'LL STILL COVER THEIR PORTION. WE'RE NOT PAYING 100%. WE JUST COVERED THE INCREASE. SO FOR THE RETIREES, WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED IS THAT WE APPROVE THEM CONTINUING TO PAY THE SAME AMOUNT AND NOT PASSING THE $89,400 INCREASE IN THEM TO HAVE THE SAME COVERAGE RIGHT NOW TO THEM, AND THEN FOR THE DENTAL, THAT'S FOR EVERYONE TO CONTINUE TO PAY THE SAME THING AND NOT PASS ON THE 19,960 TO THEM. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER ACTION? MISS JESSIE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY? OKAY. I THINK THERE'S A MOTION TO. OH, I'M SORRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FREELY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. MAYOR. HOW? YEAH. THAT PASSES. AND SO I'M.

IT FAILS. I'M SORRY. MOTION FAILS. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. SINCE THE MOTION FAILED, WHEN CAN IT COME BACK? SO AND WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE ON THE INSURANCE. SO RIGHT NOW I THINK THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT AND THE DISCUSSION AROUND THERE BEING NO INCREASE.

THIS WOULD THEN HAVE TO CHANGE ALL OF THOSE NOTICES TO REFLECT THIS CHANGE. PER OUR RULES. AN ITEM CANNOT BE RE ENTERTAINED FOR 60 DAYS, BUT THERE IS AN OPTION TO DO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY AS IT RELATES TO A MOTION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MOVED. SO IF THERE'S NO RECONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, THEN THIS WON'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK FOR 60 DAYS. AND THAT MEANS

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THAT ALL OF THE NOTICES WOULD HAVE TO BE SENT REFLECTING THE INCREASES. SO BASICALLY THIS THE RETIREE PORTION AND THE DENTAL INSURANCE ARE THE ONE THAT'S AFFECTED RIGHT NOW AND CAN'T COME BACK FOR 60 DAYS BECAUSE THE MEDICAL PIECE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. CORRECT. THIS WILL BE BACK. SO MY QUESTION IS DO THAT STOP THE ENROLLMENT. WHAT HAPPENS NOW? MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK SO THAT YOU CAN GIVE US GUIDANCE ON THE COST SHARE. THERE WERE THREE ALTERNATIVES. ONE WITH THE CITY ABSORBING THE FULL INCREASE. AND THEN THERE WERE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF A PERCENTAGE, 50 OVER 50 BETWEEN THE CITY AND EMPLOYEES. SO ESSENTIALLY IN TERMS OF OPEN ENROLLMENT, WE CAN WE WOULD HAVE TO STOP THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY GO FORWARD WITH MEDICAL, BECAUSE IF WE DID, THEN WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING COVERAGE FOR RETIREES AND WE'RE NOT PROVIDING DENTAL COVERAGE. WE WOULD HAVE TO RESOLVE THOSE PERCENTAGES AND COST SHARE. SO HOW DOES THIS IMPACT OPEN ENROLLMENT AND COVERAGE LIKE? I MEAN, I KNOW I'M ASKING YOU. SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO RIGHT NOW, BUT WILL THAT MEAN THERE'S A LAPSE IN COVERAGE? NO, MA'AM.

WE START THE NEW PLAN YEAR IN JANUARY. JANUARY 1ST. OUR BENEFITS BROKER HAS INDICATED THAT WE WOULD NEED THEY WOULD NEED SOME TIME TO GET ALL OF THE DATA TOGETHER, INPUT THE RATES.

SINCE WE WERE NOT ANTICIPATING A CHANGE ON THE EMPLOYEE PORTION, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK. ONCE YOU GIVE GUIDANCE ON THAT AND MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO EMPLOYEES SO THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT THE NEW RATES WOULD BE. IF YOU DECIDE TO DO 50 OVER 50, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPUTE THAT. AND THE GIVE THE CITY ITS SHARE AND EMPLOYEES THEIR SHARE. SAME THING WITH THE RETIREES. SO IN TERMS OF OPEN ENROLLMENT, WE DON'T REALLY WE CAN PUSH IT OUT. WE CAN PUSH IT OUT. IT WILL BE A SCRAMBLE TO GET EVERYTHING DONE AND IN PLACE BY JANUARY 1ST. THIS IS THE MIDDLE OF WITH THE ALMOST THE END OF OCTOBER. SO WE WOULD BE PUSHING. IT WOULD BE LATE BECAUSE IF IT'S 60 DAYS, THAT'S NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. OKAY, SO WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. I THINK. ATTORNEY HARTLEY, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT RULES 26 AND 27 AND CODE SECTION TWO, DASH 2002, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT LATER. NEXT ITEM IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN EMERGENCY

[XIII.8. Council Discussion and Possible Action on an Emergency Moratorium on All Permits and Rezonings in the Medical Institution (M-I) Zoning District for the Purpose of Amending the Permitted Uses on the M-I Zoning District]

MORATORIUM ON ALL PERMITS AND REZONINGS IN THE MEDICAL INSTITUTIONS ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING THE PERMITTED USES ON THE MI ZONING DISTRICT. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION

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CARRIES. SO I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST THURSDAY. THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT REGARDING WELL STAR'S DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD OR TO ALLOW A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWNED, KNOWN AS AMC BOULEVARD IN ATLANTA, ON BOULEVARD OFF OF BOULEVARD NEAR BOULEVARD, TO ALLOW THAT HEALTH CARE, THAT PROPERTY THAT HAD BEEN USED FOR CRITICAL HEALTH CARE TO BE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE WOULD BE SOME HEALTH CARE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT HEALTH CARE WILL BE AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THE CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO HEALTH CARE BEING COMBINED WITH A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UNLIKE ATLANTA, WE DON'T HAVE A HOSPITAL SOUTH OF I-20 IN FULTON COUNTY AT ALL, OR AN EMERGENCY ROOM AT THIS POINT OR AND OTHER HEALTH CARE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED. AND WE THERE'S A NEED TO I BELIEVE, IN THE ZONING DISTRICT PRIORITIZE HEALTH CARE IN ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY HAPPEN ON THAT SITE. HAVEN'T HEARD FROM WELLSTAR IN QUITE SOME TIME. NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE WITH WHAT THEY MAY BE DOING ON THAT SITE. I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH DOCTOR WILLIAMS AND HAVE GIVEN HIM SOME LEVEL OF SITE CONTROL, BUT UNDER THE CURRENT M MEDICAL INSTITUTION ZONING DISTRICT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF USES THAT ARE PERMITTED THAT DON'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE LEADING OR MANDATORY INCLUSION. I BELIEVE OF HEALTH CARE. AND AGAIN, AGAIN, GIVEN THE HEALTH CARE CHALLENGES AND DESERT THAT WE HAVE FOR SOME TYPES OF FOR ACUTE CARE AND SOME OTHER LEVELS OF CARE SOUTH OF I-20, THAT SITE IS A VERY CRITICAL SITE FOR THAT, AND IT COULD INCLUDE MIXED USE, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE SO THAT THERE THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT CAN BE LOOKED AT TO SEE IF THOSE ARE USES THAT ANY OF THOSE USES WE WANT TO RESTRICT. I ALSO RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT THERE IS A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. I'M NOT SURE WHO THAT IS. FOR RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT AND OUTPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD WANT THOSE SERVICES PERFORMED OR PROVIDED ON THAT SITE WHEN THERE MAY BE PEOPLE COMING TO THE STATE LOOKING FOR PROPERTIES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF CARE OF MORATORIUM WOULD GIVE US A OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO PERMITS OR REZONING THAT HAPPEN DURING THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING AMENDMENT, THE ZONING LANGUAGE FOR THAT DISTRICT, TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO AMEND. AND IT WOULDN'T JUST BE FOR THE WELLSTAR SITE. MI MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT IS IN OTHER AREAS. IT COULD BE IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. SO THE MORATORIUM IS NOT JUST ABOUT THAT BUSINESS ENTITY. IT IS THE ZONING DISTRICT. AND THAT IS A ZONING THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THAT PROPERTY. SO I PUT IT ON TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL. I THINK IT'S AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST ANNOUNCED LAST THURSDAY. AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT CONVERSATIONS ARE BEING HAD THROUGHOUT THIS STATE REGARDING THE LEVELS OF CARE THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS SITE OR OTHER SITES WITHIN THE CITY OF EAST POINT THAT MIGHT BE ZONED MEDICAL INSTITUTION. SO. ANY COMMENT? ZIEGLER. I WAS READY TO MAKE A MOTION IF NO ONE ELSE HAD ANY THING TO DISCUSS. NO. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK WE DO HAVE ATTORNEY HARTLEY HERE AS WELL AS ATTORNEY WIGGINS. WE DON'T HAVE A CURRENT ORDINANCE DRAFTED, BUT WE COULD TABLE THIS ITEM TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET SOMETHING TO US BY THE END OF

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THE MEETING, SO THAT WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE TONIGHT TO ENSURE THAT. BUT I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH LEGAL AND SAY, DRAFT SOMETHING WITHOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL TO SEE IF THAT WAS A DESIRE. THERE. WAS THERE THERE WERE OTHER ONES THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT. RIGHT. BUT THIS WILL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THIS HAS A PURPOSE FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT ZONING DISTRICT. SO IF YOU'LL MAKE IF YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION, I THINK A MOTION TO TABLE, IF THIS IS THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING TO US AND WE CAN REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE, WE WON'T BE MAKING DECISIONS ON THAT TONIGHT. OF COURSE, IF THERE'S AMENDMENTS TO THE LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT IT WOULD GIVE US A LEVEL OF PEACE OF MIND TO KNOW THAT THERE'S WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, NOTHING COULD HAPPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SO MANY IN FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. OH, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSIO. SO THAT THAT SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. PLEASE. Y'ALL REMIND ME TO PULL IT. I'M MAKING NOTES, BUT SOMETIMES I DON'T. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. WE'LL GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION.

[XIII.9. Emergency Communications for Chemical Hazards]

AND ON EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS FOR CHEMICAL HAZARDS. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. SO MOVED THERE A SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME TONIGHT TO ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO ME ON HOW OUR CITY IS GOING TO COMMUNICATE IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO RESIDENTS WHEN THERE IS A CONCERN FOR THEIR HEALTH, WHEN THERE'S CHEMICAL SPILLS, ODORS, ETC. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH THE THIRD PARTY TO COME UP WITH AN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL, AND I WAS LOOKING TO SEE IF INTERIM CITY MANAGER, IF WE HAD AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE IN THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, WE DO HAVE THE CONSULTANT WHO HAS HELPED WITH THE DRAFTING OF AN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM OR HOW WE COMMUNICATE DISASTERS, ETC. THAT YOU MENTIONED. THIS WAS GIVEN TO THE FORMER INTERIM CITY MANAGER. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I WILL. BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOME WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THAT. AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE CHEMICAL SPILL THAT TOOK PLACE, I GUESS, IN NEWTON COUNTY, THE FIRE CHIEF AND ALSO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT WERE WAITING FOR INFORMATION FROM JIMA AND OTHER AUTHORITIES. SINCE YOU ALL KNOW THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. SO HE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO OFFER UNTIL HE WAS ABLE TO GET INFORMATION FROM THOSE SOURCES. AND THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER PROTOCOL IN AN EMERGENCY LIKE THAT, WANTING TO GET AS AS MANY FACTS AS HE COULD BEFORE HE ISSUED INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC. BUT WE DO HAVE A PLAN THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED, AND I WILL GET WITH OUR INTERIM COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, AND WE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE CURRENTLY? IN REGARDS TO HOW IT WOULD BE COMMUNICATED, HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE COMMUNICATED, IF IT IS A DISASTER OR SOMETHING THAT WILL IMPACT THE RESIDENTS

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OF EAST POINT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACTS AS OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, AND WE ALSO HAVE STAFF WHO ARE IN TOUCH WITH THE AUTHORITIES, SO TO SPEAK. THAT WOULD WORK WITH OUR CURRENT COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PRESS RELEASES, EVACUATION ORDERS, SHELTER IN PLACE, WHAT HAVE YOU. WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. I BELIEVE DURING THE AREAS OF INCLEMENT WEATHER WE ISSUE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THE STATE, WE ISSUE THAT OUT TO THE RESIDENTS IN EAST POINT. SO WE WOULD CONTINUE WITH THAT. BUT AGAIN, THERE MAY BE SOME MORE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES IN THE COMMUNICATIONS DRAFT, AND I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT BACK. AND WE CAN HAVE A MORE EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE I THINK THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS THAT THE THERE WASN'T COMMUNICATION, THERE WASN'T CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION UNTIL THE ISSUE RESOLVED. IT WAS THE ONLY COMMUNICATION THAT CAME OUT WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT THAT IT THAT IT HAPPENED. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT LATER ALSO, YOU KNOW, HOW LIKE HOW LONG IT'S EXPECTED THAT WE WOULD GET COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL. YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL JUST TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, WE DO WE STILL USE I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE LIKE AN EMERGENCY, LIKE A CODE RED OR LIKE A ROBOCALL SYSTEM WE HAD. YOU HAVE TO ENROLL IN CODE RED. BUT. YES. AND HOW WOULD I GUESS? CAN WE GET INFORMATION OUT ON HOW ONE WOULD ENROLL ON. YES TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AND THEN EVEN THEN. SO WE HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. SO THEY WOULD DRAFT A MESSAGE OR THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR WELL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD PROVIDE US WITH FACTS, OKAY, THAT THEY'VE OBTAINED FROM WHATEVER STATE AGENCY IS RESPONDING TO THE EMERGENCY. AND THEN WE WOULD PUT IT IN THE FORM THAT WE OUR MEDIUM, SOCIAL MEDIA, WHAT HAVE YOU THAT WE USE. BUT WE TRY NOT TO PUT INFORMATION OUT THAT SPECULATIVE RIGHT. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION CAN BE BACKED UP WITH A RELIABLE RESOURCE. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JESSE, FOR YOUR UPDATE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU SAY THEY HAVE TO GET ACCURATE INFORMATION FROM THE STATE LEVEL BEFORE THEY CAN PUT OUT ANY INFORMATION, AND BEING THAT EAST POINT WAS NOT IMPACTED BY THE. SPILL. WHAT HAPPENED IN NEWTON COUNTY? I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE GO WHEN WE CROSS THE LINE OF GETTING INTO OPERATION AS TO WHAT HOW YOU WANT TO SEE THINGS DONE OR HOW YOU FEEL THINGS SHOULD BE DONE. I THINK THE CHARTER SAYS THE MAYOR IS THE CHIEF SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CITY, SO ANY COMMUNICATION THAT GOES OUT, I THINK WOULD BE THROUGH HER AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHEN GIVING INFORMATION OUT. SO I THINK THAT IS ALWAYS BEEN THE PROCESS. THERE IS A CODE RED. SO IF THE CITY IS IN A DISASTER OR THERE ARE SOME ISSUES, THEN THE CODE RED CALL WOULD GO OUT, OUT TO INFORM PEOPLE OF WHAT IS GOING ON. BUT I DO THINK THAT IT THAT THERE IS A LINE IN GETTING INTO THE OPERATION OF DEPARTMENTS IN OUR YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES.

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THANK YOU. SO WE WERE IMPACTED. YOU COULD SEE THE HAZE. I KNOW I PERSONALLY WOKE UP IN MY I WAS SWOLLEN AND THEN THE NEXT DAY I HAD A HEADACHE AND I WAS INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS FROM FROM RESIDENTS WHO WERE VERY CONCERNED, NOT JUST ABOUT THEIR HEALTH, BUT WHY THIS POINT WAS NOT COMMUNICATING WITH THEM. BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO COMMUNICATE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO DO. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEFINITELY AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON. AND THIS IS WHY I BROUGHT IT TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MR. BROWN. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR HEALTH REALLY DEPENDS ON, ON THESE KINDS OF COMMUNICATIONS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE REALLY NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN US AND THAT WE THEY HAVE TRUST IN US, THAT THAT THEY CAN RELY ON ACCURATE AND TIMELY INFORMATION. AGAIN, THE ONLY COMMUNICATION THAT WENT OUT WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT IT HAPPENED, AND THIS INCIDENT TOOK ABOUT A WEEK TO RESOLVE. SO THAT'S A VERY LONG TIME FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO GO WITHOUT ANY KIND OF COMMUNICATION. THE COUNTY WAS VERY, VERY RESPONSIVE IN IN COMMUNICATING OUT WHAT PEOPLE NEEDED TO DO AND SO IT'S JUST REALLY FRUSTRATING THAT THAT NOT ONLY DID WE NOT REALLY ACT VERY TIMELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS IS INTERFERING WITH OPERATIONS WHEN THIS IS REALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FIXING SOMETHING THAT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE FIXED. YOU KNOW, I, I OFTEN WORRY ABOUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE LIVE AND HOW WE HAVE OTHER INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AROUND US. AND WE HAVE HAD EVACUATIONS TAKE PLACE. SO THIS IS A VERY REAL AND VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. LET ME BE CRYSTAL CLEAR. NEWTON COUNTY IS WHAT, ABOUT 20 MILES? SO IT'S I DIDN'T GET ANY PHONE CALLS. NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS NOT AN ISSUE.

NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN HERE. IT HAPPENED AND IT HAPPENED IN NEWTON COUNTY. AND MISS JESSIE ALREADY STATED THAT THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THEY GOT ACCURATE INFORMATION. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT PEOPLE TRUSTING PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TRUST. I THINK IT'S WHAT PEOPLE PERCEIVE AND THE PERCEPTION THAT PEOPLE KEEP PUTTING OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE DON'T TRUST PEOPLE. SO LET'S JUST STOP WITH THAT AGAIN, IT IS GETTING INTO OPERATION WHEN YOU WANT TO DIRECT SOMEONE TO DO THINGS HOW YOU WANT THEM DONE, IT WAS CLEARLY EXPLAINED THAT THEY HAD TO GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE STATE. SO WHY WOULD THE CITY PUT OUT ANY INFORMATION WITHOUT HAVING ANY INFORMATION FROM THE STATE WHEN IT REALLY DIDN'T EVEN AFFECT EASTPOINTE? AS A MATTER OF FACT, LET'S BE CLEAR. I DIDN'T SMELL ANYTHING.

NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T, BUT I WAS HERE WHEN THEY HAD A CHEMICAL SPILL HERE AND WE WERE AFFECTED BY THAT CHEMICAL SPILL. AND THAT WAS IN IN EARLY 2000. AND NOBODY COULD GO OUTSIDE.

NOBODY COULD COME INTO EASTPOINTE AND NOBODY COULD LEAVE EASTPOINTE AND THE AND THE LAW OFFICE THAT SUED THE PEOPLE THAT GOT THE MONEY BACK WAS RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF SIMS AND CONLEY, RIGHT WHERE THE ART BUILDING IS. SO I'M FULLY AWARE OF HOW THINGS ARE WHEN THERE'S A CHEMICAL SPILL, BECAUSE WE LIVE THROUGH IT RIGHT HERE IN EASTPOINTE. SO LET'S JUST STOP WITH ALL THE SHENANIGANS. THANK YOU. SO AS THE CHIEF SPOKESPERSON OF THE CITY, I'LL SAY THIS WHEN BECAUSE OF WHERE I LIVE IN THE CITY, I DIDN'T IT WASN'T I DIDN'T GET IMPACTED.

BUT I DID SEE SOME COMMENTS. AND SO WE IMMEDIATELY SHARED THAT WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND COMMUNICATIONS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT INFORMATION WE WOULD COMMUNICATE TO THE RESIDENTS. AS WAS INDICATED, BECAUSE THIS IS A WAS A LARGER OUTSIDE OF

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EASTPOINTE EMERGENCY SITUATION, THERE WAS COMMUNICATION COMING FROM THE COUNTY THAT WAS BEING DISTRIBUTED TO EVERYONE REGARDING WHERE WE WERE AS IT RELATED TO EASTPOINTE. THERE WERE NO CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO TAKE PLACE AS IT RELATES TO LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING SPECIFICALLY HERE AND THE COMMUNICATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND OTHER WERE PROVIDING WAS PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION. I HEAR THE CONCERN AND DESIRE TO GET MORE DIRECT COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY, AND WILL THINK THROUGH THAT AS WE, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD. IT WAS MENTIONED THAT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION AND PROTOCOL WAS SHARED WITH THE FORMER INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND HAS NOT BEEN NECESSARILY SHARED WITH US OR MOVED ANYWHERE. SO THANK YOU, MISS JESSE, FOR BEING WILLING TO LOOK AT THAT AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, JOINT CONVERSATIONS AROUND COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ME, THE CHIEF SPOKESPERSON, AS WELL AS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. LET'S BE CLEAR, WHENEVER SOMETHING HAPPENS, ALTHOUGH I'M THE CHIEF SPOKESPERSON OF THE CITY, I'M NOT THE EXPERT IN THE AREAS. AND SO I REACH OUT TO IF IT'S SOMETHING DEALING WITH WATER OR WHATEVER, AND THE CITY MANAGER AND WHAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE FROM THAT? SO I'M NOT JUST COMMUNICATING FOR COMMUNICATIONS SAKE, BUT I HEAR THE CONCERNS. I SAW THE AS I SAID, HAD I NOT SEEN THE POST, I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE SMELLING THE ODORS OR FEELING LIKE THEY WERE BEING IMPACTED HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, WHICH IS WHY THOSE WERE IMMEDIATELY SHARED. AND THEN WE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED.

I FEEL LIKE IT WAS WAS IT ROCKDALE COUNTY OR SOMETHING? ONE OF MY ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, MY OTHER JOB LIVES IN CONYERS, AND SHE WAS IMPACTED FROM COMING INTO WORK. THEY HAD TO SHELTER IN PLACE. SO A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION DEALT WITH THEM. BUT LOOKING THROUGH TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION OR JUST RESHARING INFORMATION FROM THE AGENCIES THAT ARE PROVIDING THE INFORMATION THAT ARE USING THE SAME OUTLETS AS WE ARE. I THINK FOR THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, THERE'S A LEVEL OF COORDINATED COMMUNICATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SHARING DIFFERENT INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY OR PEOPLE WHO ARE OVER LIKE THE HEALTH PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC HEALT, FOR OUR COUNTY, FOR OUR REGION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S STRENGTHENING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A COORDINATED, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE SENT YOU ALL. SEND IT OUT. I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT WITH SOME OTHER COMMUNICATION I CAN'T REMEMBER. I THINK IT WAS DURING COVID. THE COUNTY WAS TAKING THE LEAD ON A LOT OF THAT COMMUNICATION, AND THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH IT AND PIERCE OUT, LIKE, WHAT'S FOR EASTPOINTE AND SHARE OR HAVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT. SO HEAR THOSE CONCERNS. AND SO LOOKING FORWARD, MISS JESSIE, TO HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT. A COORDINATION OF COMMUNICATION. BUT NOT THAT WE ARE ISSUING STATEMENTS ABOUT EASTPOINTE FOR MATTERS THAT ARE LIKE BEING MANNED OR ADDRESSED AT DIFFERENT LEVELS BECAUSE THEY WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. ALTHOUGH IMPACTING THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. SO ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? MISS JESSIE, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR? YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SHARED THAT MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO LOOK AT. HOW DO YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH US OR LIKE WHAT? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND THAT? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO LET US? I'M ALSO ASKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT. YOU SAID YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SO LIKE. BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND HOW YOU WOULD BE MOVING THIS FORWARD? I GUESS MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AND CONSIDER THE COMMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING THOSE AREAS THAT YOU BELIEVE ARE IMPORTANT. AND WE CAN HAVE A DRAFT FOR YOU AT NOT NECESSARILY THE WORK SESSION IN NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER. THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, BUT WE'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU. THE WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. COUNCIL MEMBER TO DO

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THAT, THAT WORKS. ITEM NUMBER 16. CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION

[XIII.16. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Facade Grant Program to be Funded by ARPA Funds in the Amount of $350,000]

ON THE FACADE GRANT PROGRAM? SO MOVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THIS IS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OH, I WASN'T LOOKING AT THAT TIME, MISS JESSE. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MACY ROGERS IS COMING BACK TO YOU WITH RESPONSES TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED WHEN HE FIRST PRESENTED THIS. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MACY.

THANK YOU. AND CITY MANAGER JESSE AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MACY ROGERS, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU IS A FOLLOW UP AND UPDATE OF THE FACADE GRANT IMPROVEMENT INITIATIVE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BACK IN SEPTEMBER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD. OF COURSE, THIS WOULD INVOLVE COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE THAT YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERING. SO AS A VERY BRIEF RECAP, I'D LIKE TO JUST SHARE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SHARED LAST LAST MONTH AND THEN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. THE CITY GRANT ALLOCATION PURPOSE AND OBJECTIVE OF $350,000 OF AMERICA RESCUE PLAN ACT ARPA FUNDS WOULD BE ALLOCATED FOR THE COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER BEAUTIFICATION AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THIS WOULD INVOLVE EXTERIOR AND REPAIR, ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS. APPLICANTS CAN APPLY FOR UP TO $80,000 WITH A 25% MATCH. THIS IS WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED, BUT IT IT WOULD BE ENCOURAGED. FUNDS WOULD BE ALLOCATED ACROSS ALL FOUR WARDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ELIGIBLE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS. THE APPLICANT MUST OWN THE STRIP CENTER IS LESS THAN 125,000FT■!, ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL AND BE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE CITY, MEANING THAT THERE WOULD BE NO OUTSTANDING FEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OWED. EXAMPLES OF ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE NEW MULTI-TENANT SIGNAGE, CANOPIES, AWNINGS, WINDOWS, DOORS, NEW LIGHTING, BUILDING FACADE REPAIRS SUCH AS BRICK SIDING, STUCCO, DECORATIVE GATES AND FENCING, LANDSCAPING, DECORATIVE PLANTERS, PARKING LOT VISUAL BUFFERS, RETAPING AND RESTRIPING OF PARKING LOTS, ADDITION OF PLANTING ISLANDS IN PARKING LOTS AS WELL INELIGIBLE PROJECTS OR APPLICANTS WOULD INVOLVE PACKAGED STORES, PAWN SHOPS, ADULT ENTERTAINMENT, CONVENIENCE STORES, GAS STATIONS, BARS, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, RESIDENTIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS, PROPERTIES UNDER CONTRACT OR PLANNED TO BE IN 12 MONTHS. FORECLOSURES FOR SALE OR SOLD WOULD BE INELIGIBL. INELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND PLANNING SERVICES, ROOFS, HVAC SYSTEMS, PLUMBING SYSTEMS, REPAIR, SECURITY BARS, SECURITY FENCING, SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT, SECURITY ROLL DOWNS, CONSTRUCTION PERMIT FEES, CAMERA EQUIPMENT, TELECOM AND INTERNET.

INTERNET TV, SATELLITE EQUIPMEN. IN YOUR PACKETS ARE THREE SCENARIOS OF SMALL, MEDIUM, AND LARGE LOCATIONS. THESE ARE COMMERCIAL SITES, SMALL SITES RANGING FROM 77,500 TO A 10,000FT■!S. MEDIUM SITES RANGIG FROM 18,000 UP TO 30 500 ZERO SQUARE FEET, AND THE LARGE LOCATIONS RANGING FROM 60 TO 100. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS JUST

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GIVE SOME THOUGHT AS TO THE COST OF THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT EFFORT. SO IF YOU JUST TAKE THE 7500FT■!S, THAT VERY FIRST ROW O REPLACE AN ASPHALT PARKING LOT WITH AN INCH THICK ASPHALT WITH THE STRIPING AND THE PREWASHING OF A BUILDING, ALL FOUR SIDES, BACK, FRONT AND LEFT AND RIGHT SIDES, AND THE REPAINTING OF THAT BUILDING. THE COST WOULD BE $52,800. IF YOU WOULD WERE TO TAKE THE CHEAPER ROUTE, MEANING THAT YOU WOULD GO WITH THE A SEALCOAT WHICH LIKE A AN ASPHALT PAINT ON THE PARKING PARKING LOT WITH THE STRIPING, THE PRICE WOULD DROP SIGNIFICANTLY TO $38,682 AND $0.60. THAT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE COST INVOLVED WITH THE FACADE EFFORT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU CAN YOU CAN GO DOWN THE VARIOUS ROWS TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER COST FACTORS WOULD BE BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING SPACES THEMSELVES. SO I WON'T GO THROUGH THOSE, BUT THAT IS THERE FOR YOUR YOUR INFORMATION TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION PROCESS, TIMELINE AND OUTREACH TO KEEP THE PROCESS IN COMPLIANT AND EFFICIENT. ALLOCATED ARPA FUNDS WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE BUSINESS, INDUSTRIAL AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY THROUGH AN MOU FOR MANAGEMENT AND DISTRIBUTION. THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY WOULD THEN HIRE A CONTRACT GRANT ADMINISTRATOR PAID FROM A PORTION IN THIS CASE $30,000. OF THE 350,000 FOR ADMINISTRATION. THE COMPLETED APPLICATION WOULD BE REVIEWED AND EVALUATED BY A COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND, OF COURSE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT APPLICATIONS WILL OPEN IN JANUARY OF 2025 AND MUST BE RECEIVED BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS IN FEBRUARY. THAT DATE OF THE 14TH IS JUST A HOLDER.

SELECTED APPLICANTS WOULD BE NOTIFIED BY THE END OF FEBRUARY INTO EARLY MARCH 2025. ALL AWARDEES MUST ENTER INTO A SIGNED AGREEMENT TO RECEIVE THE PROJECT. AWARD AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE FACADE GRANT INFORMATION WOULD BE PLACED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. NEWSLETTER CITY HALL, CITY ANNEX, CUSTOMER CARE CITY LIBRARY. AND ALSO WE WOULD HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO DISTRIBUTE FLIERS. THIS WOULD BE THE KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IN TERMS OF THE OUTREACH, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GOT NOTICE OF THIS GRANT EFFORT OR THIS FACADE EFFORT THAT WE WOULD HAVE UNDERWAY. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF THE FLOW OF THE PROJECT, WE WOULD KICK OFF WITH THE FUNDING APPROVAL BASED ON WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

THE APPLICATION KICK OFF, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN IN JANUARY, WE'D COME TO THE APPLICATION APPROVAL SELECTION PROCESS IF IT IS INELIGIBLE, THE PROJECT WOULD GO TO THE LEFT. AND OF COURSE, THAT APPLICATION WOULD STOP IF IT IS ELIGIBLE AND IT MEETS THE CRITERIA, IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS TO THE RIGHT WHERE WE DO THE APPLICATION AWARD NOTIFICATION. THE PROJECT WOULD THEN GET UNDERWAY FROM THE TIME THAT THE AWARDEE WOULD BE NOTIFIED, THEY WOULD HAVE 60 DAYS IN WHICH TO START THE PROJECT. AND THEN OF COURSE, DURING THAT TIME FRAME, THE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR WOULD BE MAKING PROJECT UPDATES AND REPORTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE PROJECTS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE PROJECT WOULD BE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN A 60 MONTH TIME FRAME. THE NEXT CHART HERE IS JUST KIND OF A TIMELINE.

BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH RESPECT TO THE GRANT FUNDING APPROVAL. WE'RE IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. THE FUNDS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WOULD NEED TO BE ALLOCATED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT BY THAT TIME, BUT WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPENT AND HOW IT WOULD BE SPENT. THE GRANT APPLICATION KICK OFF, AS I MENTIONED, WOULD BE IN JANUARY, FLOWING THROUGH FEBRUARY AND EARLY MARCH. APPLICATION APPROVAL AND SELECTION AWARD WOULD TAKE PLACE FEBRUARY AND MARCH PROJECTS WOULD THEN BE EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON THE WAY IN MARCH, EARLY APRI, WITH THAT TIME FRAME OF 60 DAYS IN WHICH TO START AND THEN, OF COURSE, PROGRESS REPORTS WOULD

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TAKE PLACE THROUGHOUT THE SIX MONTH PERIOD, WHEREAS AT THE END OF SIX MONTHS THE PROJECT WOULD BE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETE. IF IT'S NOT COMPLETED, THEN WE WOULD EXPECT SOME SORT OF EXPLANATION FROM THE AWARDEE AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PROJECT, SO THAT THEY MAY IN FACT REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIM. THAT IS THE EXTENT OF THE PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THAT TELLS ME, OH, GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIR.

THANK YOU. HAVE YOU DECIDED ON WHAT AREAS YOU'RE GOING TO DO IN EACH WARD AND WHAT WHAT KIND OF DESIGNS ARE THEY GOING TO DO? WILL THEY BE BROUGHT BACK TO YO? BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IS SOMEBODY JUST PLANTING FLOWERS AROUND TO SAY THEY BEAUTIFIED THE AREA. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST THAT. YES, MA'AM. SO WE WOULD WE WOULD LOOK AT ALL AREAS OF, OF EACH WARD. THIS WOULD BE AN OPEN PROCESS FOR ANY COMMERCIAL BUILDING OWNER TO APPLY FOR. AND SO ALL APPLICATIONS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE BASED ON THE CRITERIA, PARTICULARLY IF THEY NEED IT. SO WE WOULDN'T IDENTIFY ANY, ANY AREA OF ANY WARD. BUT JUST TO SAY THAT THE ENTIRE AREA OF THAT WARD WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE END, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HAVE YOU ALSO CONSIDERED TO DO SOMETHING WITH FOR THE BUSINESSES? THAT'S DOWNTOWN? YES, MA'AM. YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE, THE, THE AMOUNT AND THE EXTENT IN WHICH THE, THE FUNDING WOULD, WOULD STRETCH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DIVERT SOME OF THAT OR AT LEAST AN EQUAL PORTION INSTEAD OF SPLITTING IT FOUR WAYS, WE COULD CERTAINLY SPLIT IT FIVE WAYS. AND INCLUDE DOWNTOWN AS WELL. AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, IS TO ALSO HELP IMPROVE THE BUSINESSES, TO LOOK WITH THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AS WELL.

VERY GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE GRANTS. ADMINISTRATOR, HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE AMOUNT OF $30,000 FOR THIS ROLE? WE CONSIDERED A THE AMOUNT FOR THE CONTRACT EVENTS COORDINATOR FEES THAT WE PAID FOR OUR FESTIVAL EARLIER THIS YEAR AND LOOKED AT THAT AS BEING AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT FOR THE SIX MONTH TIME FRAME AND THE WORK THAT WOULD BE DONE AND CARRIED OUT WITH RESPECT TO THE MONTHLY REPORTING AND UPDATES THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE DURING THE DURATION OF THE PROCESS. SO IT'S ABOUT A SIX MONTH. YES, ACTIVITY PERIOD. SO IT'S $2,000 A MONTH. THAT'S CORRECT. TO GIVE EACH EACH BUSINESS THAT WOULD WOULD BE AWARDED TIME TO GET THEIR CONTRACTOR TOGETHER, GET THE WORK DONE. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DO IT IN LESS TIME. BUT WE'RE GIVING THEM SIX MONTHS THINKING THAT THAT WOULD BE AMPLE TIME ENOUGH FOR THEM TO GET THE PROJECT DONE. AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN AT LEAST WE WOULD GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO SHARE WITH US REASONS AS TO WHY THEY COULDN'T COMPLETE THE PROJECT DURING THAT TIME FRAME. AND WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF AWARDEES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT $80,000. BUT NOW IF WE INCLUDE DOWNTOWN THEN WE WOULD SPLIT THAT FIVE WAYS. AND SO YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT ABOUT 60 SOME ODD THOUSAND, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE GIVE OR TAKE. OKAY. IT JUST STRIKES ME AS A GENEROUS AMOUNT FOR SIX MONTHS. YES. AND THAT IS BASED ON THE, THE PRICE POINTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE, THE CHART HERE BEFORE YOU, I MEANT THE, THE, THE FEE FOR THE CONTRACT GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR. YES. WELL AGAIN WE CONSIDERED THAT AND THAT IS A BALLPARK WE CAN CERTAINLY REVISIT THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT.

BUT WE FIGURED TO GET SOMEONE IN THAT WOULD BE STEADFAST AND FOCUSED ON THE DRAWDOWNS, MAKING MONTHLY REPORTS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING OUT, DOCUMENTING WITH PHOTOGRAPHS, NARRATIVE BENCHMARKS. IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, WHAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE WITHIN A

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REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME IN TERMS OF THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, WE FELT THAT THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO AT LEAST HOPEFULLY GENERATE INTEREST OR ENTICE SOMEONE TO GO FOR THAT PARTICULAR JOB DUTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH, I WAS I WAS HOPING TO SEE MORE CONSIDERATION. $350,000. NOT A LOT OF MONEY. AND WHEN YOU TAKE $30,000 TO GIVE TO SOMEBODY FOR SIX MONTHS OF WORK, THAT TAKES IT DOWN TO 320,000. AND WE STILL HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT THE WARS AREAS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO FOCUS ON. IF WE SEPARATE DOWNTOWN, THAT'S FIVE AREAS. ARE WE GOING TO SAY THAT THERE'S UP TO IF IT STAYS 350,000? WHAT IS THAT? I THINK IT WAS 77 FIVE 77,500. 354 87,500 PER WARD. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT TAKES $30,000 FOR SOMEBODY TO COORDINATE.

FOLLOWING UP WITH PEOPLE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE DOING THE WORK ON THESE FACADES. I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PERMITTING OR LICENSING. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT ALREADY BUILT IN JUST FROM HOW WE ALREADY HANDLE SIGNAGE OR FACADES OR THINGS OF THAT NATUR.

THIS MONEY IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. I THINK WHEN WE LAST TALKED, WE WERE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE LOOKING AT AREAS OF FOCUS? DO WE WANT TO FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN? DO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL WARDS, ARE THERE KEY BUILDINGS OR CENTERS WITHIN THE WARDS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THE DETERMINATIONS? I DON'T I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN REALLY MUCH ADJUSTMENT SINCE OUR LAST DISCUSSION. AND $350,000 DOESN'T GO A LONG WAY UP TO $80,000 PER APPLICANT THERE. IF YOU BREAK IT UP INTO FOUR WARDS, THAT'S $87,500. THAT'S LIKE ONE APPLICANT POTENTIALLY LIKE SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET FROM HERE TO THERE, BUT LIKE WHAT IS $350,000? NOT A LOT OF MONEY FOR A FACADE GRANT PROGRAM. WE HAVE STRIP MALLS AND AREAS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE ALREADY KNOW OF THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE APPLICANTS, AND I KNOW THEY HAVE TO APPLY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND IF WE WANT TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION OR ENSURE THAT DOWNTOWN THERE'S FUNDING THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THERE. WE GOT THE $35 MILLION GRANT TO CONNECT OUR PATH TO THE ATLANTA BELTLINE AND TO THE HEADWATERS OF THE FLINT, LIKE THERE'S. BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE SAME PLAN THAT WE ALREADY RECEIVED. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE REALLY GOING TO SPREAD $350,000 THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ARE WE GOING TO GIVE MULTIPLE 5000 GRANTS TO STRETCH THE MONEY OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS? HAVE WE IDENTIFIED AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE WE THINK FACADE GRANTS WOULD BE HELPFUL? WE ALREADY HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVE FOR FACADES THAT'S ALREADY IN THE SMALL BUSINESS BROCHURE. SO I DON'T KNOW. I JUST FEEL LIKE JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE, THE NO COST SENIOR REPAIR, LIKE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE WAITLIST, IT'S 49, 49 PEOPLE AND POTENTIALLY $289,000 TO OPEN THAT UP. WOULD WOULD BE NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR ANYONE BECAUSE YOU'RE CREATING UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS AND WE'RE OVERPROMISING AND UNDER-DELIVERING. SO I AGREE, $30,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMEBODY FOR SIX MONTHS. WHEN LITERALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNAGE OR FACADES, WE ALREADY HAVE STUFF IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AND WE ALREADY HAVE OR IN OUR ORDINANCES THAT ADDRESS THAT AND WHICH IS ALREADY A RESPONSIBILITY OF SOMEBODY ON STAFF TO COORDINATE AND WORK TOGETHER. BUT JUST TO TAKE $30,000 OFF THE TOP AND JUST GET IT, GIVE IT TO A PERSON TO COORDINATE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT ANY THAT'S NOT WHAT I ENVISIONED. SURE. WELL, USE OF THESE FUNDS, WE CAN CERTAINLY REDUCE THAT AMOUNT, MAYOR. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF LIKE HOW IS THIS EXTRA STAFF WORK? WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T HAVE I MEAN, THERE WAS ADMINISTRATIVE

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FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED WHEN WE RECEIVED THE GRANT FROM THE COUNTY FOR EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS.

BUT BUT I THINK THEY DIDN'T GIVE THAT TO US. SO WE GOT CDBG GRANT FUNDING. BUT IT WAS FOR $500,000. AND INSTEAD OF TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM THE 500,000, THEY GAVE US 550,000. THEY ADDED MONEY ON TOP OF THE REQUEST, INSTEAD OF TAKING MONEY FROM FOR ADMINISTRATION, SIX MONTHS, $30,000. THAT'S $5,000 A MONTH. WHO'S DOING THAT KIND OF WORK THAT CAN'T ALREADY BE COVERED? THAT'S I MEAN, BUT LIKE, THAT CAN'T ALREADY BE COVERED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING NEW. IT'S NOT A NEW THING. IT'S A PART OF WHAT WE DO. SO I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMENS IS LIGHT ON IT. SO I'LL STOP THERE. GO AHEAD. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SEND THE GRANT OUT. I MEAN, WE'LL SEND THE WE'LL SEND IT OUT FOR ANYBODY TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR IT. HAVE WE EVEN CONSIDERED I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S $350,000. HAVE WE JUST CONSIDERED LOOKING AT THOSE AREAS THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY I CAN I WON'T SAY LIKE COUNCIL OR JUST A BODY AT EAST POINT THAT SAYS THIS IS A LIKE THE OVER IN WASHINGTON ROAD WHERE SAMMY'S CHEESECAKE IS. YEAH. SO I MEAN, IF NOT IF WE JUST PICK THESE AREAS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN TO DO, COULD THEY DO THAT OR YOU'RE WELL. WELL, WE CERTAINLY WANTED TO KEEP THE, THE PROCESS AS FAIR AND AS POSSIBLE BY MAKING IT OPEN TO EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO PRE-SELECT THINKING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME BIAS WITH THAT PROCESS. SO WE WOULD GET THE APPLICATIONS IN AND BASED ON THE CRITERIA AND THE RESPONSES THAT WE GOT, WE WOULD MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE SELECTION BASED ON THOSE HIGH VISIBILITY AREAS THAT I SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME. CORRIDORS SUCH AS WASHINGTON ROAD, CAMP CREEK, US 29, THESE ARE HIGHLY TRAVELED IN AND OUT CORRIDORS COMING TO AND THROUGH THE CITY, AND WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO LIMIT IT TO THAT. JUST BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED A PRE-SELECTED PROCESS. AND SO WE WOULD ELIMINATE OTHERS. BUT IN THIS WAY WE OPEN IT UP AND, AND LET THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING BASED ON THE FACADE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE APPLY. AND THEN WE MAKE THE VERY BEST SELECTION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT, THE APPLICATIONS. OKAY. I WAS JUST SORT OF LOOKING AT IT AS A CITY INITIATIVE AND WE JUST THE CITY'S GOING IN AND WE'RE, WE'RE FIXING UP CERTAIN AREAS. BUT I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT TO TRY AND MAKE IT A FAIR PROCESS AS POSSIBLE BY LETTING EVERYBODY, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR IT TO APPLY. AND THEN YOU GO FROM THERE. BUT I WAS JUST THINKING, I MEAN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DIVIDE THE MONEY OUT EQUALLY. IS THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN, THEY'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT EACH WARD. CORRECT. AND EVEN THOUGH.

WE DON'T THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN DOLLAR AMOUNT.

RIGHT. LIKE WE JUST WE STILL ARE JUST SAYING IT'S $350,000 OPEN TO EVERYBODY. AND WE MIGHT HAVE 4 OR 5 AREAS. IF WE SEPARATE DOWNTOWN, THAT WOULD BE FIVE AREAS. IF YOU DO IT EQUALLY, THAT'S 70,000. BUT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ASSURANCES OR OKAY. BECAUSE AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING I THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING IF, IF, IF, IF WE TOOK IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A CITY INITIATIVE AND THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT THAT REALLY LOOK BAD, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND WE'RE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW, THIS PAINTING OR I MEAN, SOME MINOR REPAIRS, BUT I DON'T I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT ALL WOULD ENTAIL, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF THEY JUST IF YOU JUST MADE IT A CITY INITIATIVE AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE AREAS THAT LOOK BAD THAT REALLY NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, SPRUCED UP. SO IF THEY WENT IN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WENT THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST, JUST A THOUGHT. THAT'S IF YOU WANT TO TARGET IT, I DON'T. YEAH. NO, NO NO I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO I'M JUST GIVING A SUGGESTION NOW. SURE I UNDERSTAND THE WATER ANYMORE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. I JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT I MEAN, THE THING IS, WE'RE TRYING TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY, RIGHT? WELL, ONE THOUGHT IS THAT YOU YOU TAKE THE WHOLE 350,000 AND FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN, AND THAT'S ONE OPTION. OR YOU COULD AGAIN DIVIDE IT UP IN FIVE WAYS AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION. SO YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO IT HOWEVER YOU, YOU, YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CITY INITIATIVE APPROACH. WITHOUT A DOUBT OKAY. AND THAT'S THAT'S ONE THOUGHT. IF YOU WANT

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TO CONSIDER IT THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I YIELD. COUNSELOR I MEAN, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO LET ME JUST ADD THAT WE CANNOT JUST TO HELP MACEIO OUT SELECT. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH NONDISCRIMINATORY NON-ARBITRARY CRITERIA AND LET WHOEVER WANTS TO APPLY APPLY. IF YOU WANT THE YOU WANT TO GEAR YOUR RESULTS TO GET PEOPLE FROM DOWNTOWN, THEN THAT NEEDS TO BE A CRITERIA. HAVE TO HAVE AN ADDRESS IN THE DOWNTOWN OR IF YOU WANT THERE TO BE IT SPREAD OUT AMONGST THE WARDS, THEN IT NEEDS TO SAY 1 TO 2 WINNERS PER WARD, RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THAT FIRST PRIOR TO ANYONE APPLYING PRIOR TO THIS BEING ROLLED OUT FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE CRITERIA THAT IS NONDISCRIMINATORY, NON-ARBITRARY, BUT PUT IN THERE WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR DESIRED RESULTS. SO IF IT'S DOWNTOWN OR IF IT'S ON THE FOUR WARDS YOU PUT IN LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRES THEM TO MEET CERTAIN BOXES TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A WIN.

IN ADDITION, WHAT TO COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE'S POINT? YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PROJECT WILL YOU DO THAT WILL BEAUTIFY ENHANCE THE PROPERTY? WE SAY PLANTING FLOWERS IS NOT ENOUGH, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN RIGHT THAT ARE NOT BUSINESS SPECIFIC, THAT WILL HELP YOU GEAR THIS THIS PROJECT OR THIS, THIS GRANT. IN A WAY THAT WILL HAVE A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT, SEEING AS THOUGH YOU DO NOT HAVE A HUGE POT OF MONEY TO WORK WIT. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE AND COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER.

THANK YOU. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT HAPPENS IF LET'S SAY, THE ONE OF THE PLAZAS IN THE WARD DON'T APPLY FOR IT, THEN IT'S NOT. THEY DON'T GET IT. YEAH. SO AND I GUESS WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW THAT HOW WILL THE INFORMATION BE DISTRIBUTED TO GET THEM TO APPLY. BECAUSE WE KNOW WE KNOW ALL THE, THE, THE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED UP. MY, MY THING HAS ALWAYS BEEN IF YOU'RE IF IT LEADS LIKE ATLANTA, ATLANTA, YOU GO DOWN COME UP, YOU KNOW YOU'RE LEAVING IT LOW.

THAT'S THE THAT'S YOUR GATEWAY TO ATLANTA DALLAS. SO YOU KNOW THE FAMILY THE WAKEFIELD GROCERY STORE IS HEAVILY VISITED AND TRAVELED THE PLAZA, YOU KNOW, THE PLAZA ACROSS THE STREET, THE FAMILY DOLLAR PLAZA, WHICH THEY USE A LOT FOR SHOOTING MOVIES. YOU KNOW, THE PIGGLY WIGGLY IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. YOU KNOW, THAT WHERE SAMMY CHEESECAKE ON WASHINGTON ROAD IS A AREA THAT NEED TO BE BEAUTIFIED. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE TO IT, TO THE OWNERS OF THE PLAZA? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT TO GET IT FIXED UP? AND WHAT WILL THEY BE DOING BESIDES JUST PLANTING FLOWERS OR BLOWING OFF THE DRIVEWAY? IT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S I GUESS, UNIQUE OR THAT'S GOING TO ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THAT BUILDING OR THE PLAZAS TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD, TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THAT PLAZA, TO MAKE THEM WANT TO GO THERE. BECAUSE IT'S IN BETTER SHAPE AS FAR AS DOWNTOWN. THAT WOULD BE THE SAME AS DOWNTOWN. HOW ARE THOSE BUSINESSES GOING TO IMPROVE THE LOOK TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO THOSE BUSINESSES? YES, MA'AM. SO THE APPLICATION ITSELF WOULD HAVE A THEY WOULD PROVIDE A DESCRIPTIVE OR DESCRIPTION AS TO WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING TO IMPROVE THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE PLAZA ITSELF. SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT, WE'D LOOK AT THE LOCATION, WE'D LOOK AT THE OVERALL IMPACT OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. AND THAT, OF COURSE, BECOMES PART OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE WOULD OVERSEE DURING THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT

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AGAIN, WE WOULD FOCUS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. WE WOULD PUT IT OUT IN A WEEKLY NEWSLETTER. WE WOULD ALSO OURSELVES GO OUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND, AND DISTRIBUTE FLIERS. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HIT EVERY PLACE IN THE CITY, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY HIT DOWNTOWN. WE WOULD ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THIS OVER IN OUR CUSTOMER CARE FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE PAY THEIR BILLS. WE WOULD HAVE IT HERE OUT IN THE LOBBY. WE WOULD HAVE IT OVER AT THE ANNEX CITY ANNEX AS WELL. AND WE COULD ALSO INSERT IT IN THE UTILITY BILLS IF NECESSARY. WE WOULD ALSO DISTRIBUTE AT THE CITY'S LIBRARY. SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL PUBLIC PLACES AND SPACES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE WOULD GET THE WORD OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND DO THAT CONSISTENTLY IN TERMS OF LEADING IT UP TO THE LEADING UP TO THE APPLICATION. KICKOFF. RIGHT, RIGHT THERE WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM IN, YOU'RE PUTTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE, BUT YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY REACHING THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PLAZAS, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PLAZAS ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE REACHING OUT TO. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE NEWSLETTER, YOU'RE GOING TO GO PUT IT ON AND PUT IT IN CITY AND CUSTOMER CARE. THAT'S NOT THE OWNER OF THE PLAZA. THOSE ARE THE TENANTS OF THE PLAZA, RIGHT. HOW ARE YOU ALL GOING TO REACH THE OWNER OF THE PLAZA TO GET THEM TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS? THAT WOULD BE A PHONE CALL REACHING OUT TO THE COMPANY? YES, MA'AM. TO NOTIFY THEM ABOUT THE GRANT, TO NOTIFY THEM THAT THIS IS WHAT THE CITY HAS TO OFFER. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE WE NEED TO COME UP WITH CRITERIA AROUND IT TO SAY X, Y, Z. WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN? BECAUSE WHO THEN DETERMINES WHAT THAT PLAN LOOKS LIKE? WOULD THAT THAT WOULD BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, SO WE DO NEED CRITERIA AND WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE ACTUAL OWNERS OF THE PLAZA TO APPLY. YES, MA'AM. AND WE KNOW THAT MANY OF THE OWNERS ARE NOT EVEN WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THEIR MANAGERS ON THOSE SITES AND INQUIRE WHO THE OWNER IS. THE APPLICATION ITSELF WOULD REQUIRE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY VIA PHONE CALLS, MAKE AND EMAIL MAKE DIRECT CONNECTIONS OR CONTACTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IN MANY CASES AND WE RUN INTO THIS ALL THE TIME, THE ACTUAL OWNERS OF THESE SPACES ARE NOT IN THE CITY, OR THEY MAY NOT EVEN BE WITHIN THE METRO AREA ITSELF, BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, THE I GUESS THE APPROACH THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IN THOSE CASES. BUT THAT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICATION ITSELF WOULD REQUIRE. WHO THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, THANK YOU. AND NOT TO THROW A WRENCH IN THIS CONVERSATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO GO AROUND. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE A LASER FOCUS ON THIS PROJECT, AND I WOULD PREFER FOR THE MONEY TO GO TO THE DOWNTOWN, THE PLAZAS IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT OVERLAY THAT WAY WE HAVE A LASER FOCUS ON THAT, AND WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT OUR DOWNTOWN AREAS LOOK REALLY GOOD AND SPIFFY. THE OTHER AREAS SOUNDS LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE LIKE A CHAIN ATTACHED TO THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE CODES THAT THAT THEY NEED TO ADHERE TO. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE FEEL LIKE A PARTICULAR PLAZA NEEDS SOME SPRUCING UP, YOU KNOW, THEY THERE IS POSSIBLE FOR, FOR THE LOOK OF THEIR BUILDING. AND SO THAT THAT'S WHY I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A LASER FOCUS ON OUR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT OVERLAY. AND THAT WAY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THAT THIS IS A SUCCESS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. THANK YOU.

QUICK QUESTION. SO ARE WE GIVING THIS MONEY TO THE BUSINESS OWNE. AND IT'S THEIR JOB TO GO OUT AND FIND A CONTRACTOR? NO. SO THE BUSINESS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HIRE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR. AND WE WOULD WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE CONTRACTOR. WE WOULD HAVE NO TANGIBLE EXCHANGE OF MONEY TO THE TO THE BUSINESS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO. CAN WE WORK WITH CONTRACTORS THAT

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HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH CONTRACTS AND PROCUREMENT? IF THE AMOUNT IS OVER THE 25,000, SHOULD WE BE TRYING TO APPROVE DO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DID FOR THE SENIORS AND VETERANS PROGRAM TO ME TO SAY THAT THE BUSINESSES SELECT THE CONTRACTOR AND THEN WE PAY THE CONTRACTOR, WE CAN DEAL WITH 50 DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS. IF EVERYBODY ASSUMING WE GIVE OUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT MANY GRANTS LIKE THAT. THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE A LOT. AND IT DOESN'T ENSURE THE QUALITY OF THE WORK OR WHO THEY'RE PICKING OR WHETHER THEY'RE BLUNT, LIKE ATTORNEY WIGGINS. YEAH, I DON'T LIKE THAT PORTION OF THE PROGRAM. I WOULD PREFER IT TO BE LIKE AT A REIMBURSE LIKE GRANT, WHERE THEY HIRE WHOEVER THEY WANT TO DO THE PROJECT FOR WHICH THEY WERE AWARDED THE GRANT MONEY FOR, AND THEN WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR WHAT THEY'VE PAID, YOU KNOW, UP TO THE AMOUNT THAT THE GRANT WAS AWARDED AS OPPOSED TO US BEING IN BUSINESS WITH A CONTRACTOR, PROVIDED WE DIDN'T SELECT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS OWNER SELECTED IT, BUT YOU COULD GET INTO SOME PROCUREMENT ISSUES IF WE THEN ARE PAYING THE CONTRACTORS DIRECTLY. THEY IMPOSSIBLE TO SUPPLY THE ENTIRE. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU THAT THIS STILL NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN'T RECALL WHAT THE CRITERIA WERE FOR SELECTING IT. I HEAR THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OPEN AND WE'RE NOT JUST BUT LIKE THERE'S A DESIRE TO POTENTIALLY FOCUS ON OUR DOWNTOWN. THERE'S A DESIRE TO LIKE, LEVERAGE, I GUESS BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW WE OR WHAT WE DO WITH THIS PROGRAM.

AND MAYBE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, MISS JESSE, IF STAFF ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE COULD TALK WITH WORK WITH LEGAL AND MAYBE BASED UPON WHAT'S BEEN SHARED TONIGHT, LIKE BRING US SOMETHING THAT MAY ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY. AGAIN, $30,000 IS WAY TOO MUCH FOR SOMEBODY TO COORDINATE THIS. LIKE I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT MUCH PAPERWORK. AND WE PROBABLY ALREADY, AGAIN, HAVE STAFF THAT ALREADY HAS RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES FOR SOME OF THIS WORK ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S DEALING WITH FACADES. BUT THIS COUNCIL OKAY WITH THAT.

LIKE STAFF WORK OPERATIONS, WORKING WITH LEGAL AND TAKING ALL OF THIS INTO CONSIDERATION TO TRY TO COME BACK AND BRING US SOMETHING THAT HAS LIKE MORE CLEAR CRITERIA, LIKE HOW WE'RE USING THE MONEY, LIKE ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS AND MAYBE LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN AND LIKE ALL OF THAT IN A WAY THAT IS NONDISCRIMINATORY IN OPEN AS THE CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED. BUT, YEAH, I SEE HEAD NODS. YES, MA'AM. WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. OKAY. NO OBJECTIONS FROM COUNCI.

MAYBE THE NOVEMBER WORK SESSION? YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING SO THAT THE FUNDS CAN BE COMMITTED BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST, SO WE WON'T HAVE THE FUNDS AT ALL. DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR. YES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO CAN YOU ADD THE NOVEMBER 1ST LIKE I JUST. MADAM MAYOR, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FACADE. GRANT, WE HAVE HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT. MACEO AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH TO LOOK AT OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHO HAVE ROLLED OUT SIMILAR PROGRAMS USING ARPA FUNDS, AND THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. SO I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM. I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO SAY WE TALKED AND THAT'S IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW WE HAVE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. SO OUR OUR CRITERIA IS SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE USING. IT WAS A COUNTY, IN FACT. SO YES, IT IS DEFINITELY A MIRROR IF YOU WILL, OF WHAT HAS OCCURRED IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION. YOU KNOW, THE

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OPTION OF DOWNTOWN VERSUS ALL THE WARDS. IT WAS A COUNTY, SO IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT ISSUE SO MUCH. THERE IS NOT A DOWNTOWN IN A COUNTY, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED DIRECTION FROM Y'ALL ON WHAT TO DO BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT WE NEED SOME SOME WHAT DO YOU WANT. WE'LL TAKE IT, WE'LL WRITE IT. WE'LL BRING IT BACK. BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SAID, THAT YOU WANT AS A COUNCIL, I THINK I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DESIRES. I THINK THE CONCERN IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE NOT BEING DISCRIMINATORY, THAT WE'RE NOT RUNNING AFOUL OF ANY LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT ALSO, LIKE HAVING US INTERACT WITH POTENTIALLY 50 CONTRACTORS. LIKE THAT'S JUST THAT, RIGHT? THAT PIECE, THAT PIECE IS AN EASY TWEAK. BUT AS FAR AS RECIPIENTS OF THE GRANT AND WHERE THEY WILL BE LOCATED, I THINK THAT'S A PIECE THAT CERTAINLY WOULD REQUIRE THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. AND I MEAN, IT COULD BE BOTH AND RIGHT, LIKE IT COULD BE DETERMINING HOW MUCH OF THE MONEY WE WANT TO SET ASIDE FOR IT FOR DOWNTOWN. AND THEN THE REST FOR THE WARDS. RIGHT. LIKE I CAN IMAGINE. WOULD REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL FOUR WARDS TO SOLELY FOCUS ON ONE AREA WHEN THERE ARE POTENTIAL AREAS IN OTHER CITIES? I MEAN, IN OTHER WARDS MIGHT BE CHALLENGING, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A PRIORITIZATION OR A, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE MONEY FOR DOWNTOWN IN A NONDISCRIMINATORY WAY. AND THEN SAYING FOR EACH WARD, I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE COMMUNICATE THE PROGRAM, PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY APPLYING FOR UP TO $350,000. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY APPLYING UP TO $80,000. WHATEVER IS LEFT. IF YOU BREAK IT UP BY WARD, THERE'S UP TO THAT AMOUNT, RIGHT? DEPENDING ON WHERE YOUR BUSINESS IS. SO WE COULD SAY RIGHT, THAT A MAXIMUM AWARD OF I'M JUST MAKING UP NUMBERS, $20,000 WILL BE AWARDED IN EACH WARD, A MAXIMUM OF UP TO $50,000 WOULD BE AWARDED TO BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN. IT COULD READ SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE CRITERIA LIKELY WOULD NOT BE DIFFERENT AMONGST THE WARDS. COULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR DOWNTOWN. SAY THEY WANT TO PUT IN A SIDEWALK OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR CONNECTIVITY TO THE MARTYR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE CAN BIFURCATE IT. IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, YOU KIND OF THEN WILL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS UNDER ONE UMBRELLA. THE DOWNTOWN FACADE GRANT, AND THEN THE WARD FACADE GRANT. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL CREATE AN ISSUE IF I KNOW I HEARD FROM ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THEY WANTED TO FOCUS JUST ON DOWNTOWN, BUT NOW I'M HEARING TO MAYBE DO A BOTH AND WHICH IS WHICH IS FINE, AND MAYBE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT EACH PERSON CAN GET IS STILL THE SAME, BUT WE JUST SAY OUT OF THE 350,000, THERE'S 100,000 ALLOCATED TO DOWNTOWN, WHICH LEAVES 250 DIVIDED BY FOUR. I CAN'T DO MATH REAL QUICK RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. I GET IT. SO NOVEMBER 4TH. OKAY, OKAY. CAN WE ALREADY VOTE TO. WE ALREADY VOTED TO APPROVE THE MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM. WE JUST ARE COMING BACK ON THE I THINK WE DID IT FOR BOTH THE SENIOR AND THE THIS PROGRAM. SO I THINK THE FUNDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMMITTED.

IT'S JUST WORKING OUT THE HOW AND MAYBE YOU ALL CAN BRING THAT BACK ON NOVEMBER 4TH. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS. AND I MEAN, IF WE'RE IT'S NOT BEING DISCRIMINATORY. I THINK WHAT THE ASK IS FROM COUNCIL IS DO WE WANT TO FOCUS ON ALL AREAS, MAKE EAST POINT, I MEAN MAKE DOWNTOWN A, A SEPARATE AREA. SO INSTEAD OF JUST THE FOUR WARDS, THERE'S FIVE AREAS OF FOCUS. AND THEN IF WE DO FIVE AREAS OF FOCUS, DO WE THEN WANT TO. BY DIVIDED BY 350 IS 70 RIGHT. YEAH. WE WANT TO SAY 70,000 PER AREA OR GIVE MORE TO DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK WHAT

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WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE TONIGHT WE CAN WORK ON THE MONEY AND STUFF LATER. BUT DO WE WANT TO SEPARATE DOWNTOWN AS A SEPARATE AREA. SO INSTEAD OF FOUR WARDS, IT'S THE FOUR WARDS PLUS DOWNTOWN. SO IT'D BE FIVE AREAS IN WHICH WE'D BE SPENDING SPREADING THE MONEY OR IS THE MAJORITY OF I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS, ARE THE MAJORITY OF BUSINESSES IN WARD A AND B, LIKE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA? BECAUSE THEN IF SO, THAT'S LIKE KIND OF DOUBLE ALLOCATION IN THAT WAY.

RIGHT? YEAH. THE HEART OF MOST BUSINESSES ARE IN DOWNTOWN AND SOME OF DOWNTOWN IS IN A AND B NOT MAJORITY A, SOME B. SO IF WE DO 87 FIVE PER WARD, THAT'S KIND OF STILL GETTING TO THE DOWNTOWN. RIGHT. BECAUSE BUT THOSE ARE THAT'S WHAT I THINK THEY NEED TONIGHT. DO WE WANT FOUR WARDS EQUALLY SPLIT MONEY. WE CAN ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE MONEY WHEN THEY COME BACK, BUT THEY NEED DIRECTION AROUND. IS IT JUST FOUR WARDS OR DO WE WANT TO SEPARATE DOWNTOWN? COUNCIL MEMBER STRUCTURE I THINK IT'S STILL INCLUDE THE WARDS AS WELL AS DOWNTOWN, SO IT'D BE FIVE AREAS. OUT OF COUNCIL MEMBER ASSIGNMENTS THEN. COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I THINK STILL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE DRIVEN OFF OF THE APPLICANTS. I MEAN, BECAUSE WHO KNOWS, MAYBE NOBODY, MAYBE NO ONE IN C EVEN APPLIES FOR IT. YOU PUT ALL THE INFORMATION OUT THERE. I MEAN, IT'S STILL UP TO THEM. YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE THEM DRINK. SO WE'LL PUT IT OUT THERE AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW. SO I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE DRIVEN OFF OF THE APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE. SO IT MAY BE BEST, I THINK JUST SAY EAST POINT. THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY, ALL THE WARDS DOWNTOWN AND EVERYTHING. AND THEN ONCE YOU COME BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE APPLICANTS AND SEE WHAT IT IS, WHAT APPLICANTS YOU HAVE, THEN YOU CAN DO IT BECAUSE I MEAN, I MEAN, IT MAY BE AN ISSUE, IT MAY BE A SITUATION WHERE 80,000 GOES TO ONE WARD AND 30,000 GOES TO ANOTHER WARD.

I MEAN, WE JUST DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALL REALLY GOING TO BE YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE BASED IT'S GOING TO BE APPLICANT APPLICATION DRIVEN. SO LET'S JUST OPEN IT UP CITYWIDE. SO WHEREVER YOU GET THE PEOPLE AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK AND SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE. AND ONCE YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE THEN YOU CAN SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DIVVY FINDS OUT, I YIELD. I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH OPENING IT CITYWIDE AS WELL. THE FOUR WARDS PLUS DOWNTOWN. BUT JUST THAT WHEN WE I THINK THAT THERE IS A DISTINCTION, THOUGH, BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE WAKEFIELD PLAZA THAT'S OWNED BY, YOU KNOW, A LARGE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OR RETAIL SORT OF COMPANY, MUCH LARGER SPACE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING A PARKING LOT DOWNTOWN, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE GENERALLY SMALL BUSINESSES OR SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, POTENTIALLY. AND MAYBE SOMEONE OWNS WHOLE CHUNKS. BUT SO I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THE DISTINCTION IN HOW THE FUNDS WILL ACTUALLY BE USED. BUT I'M I'M FINE WITH OPENING IT UP ACROSS THE CITY. OKAY. SO THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE, ARE WE OKAY WITH WHAT WE SHARED TONIGHT? I THINK THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT SHOULD BE $8,000 PER PERSON. I MEAN, PER PER APPLICANT. THE MONEY IS NOT GOING TO GO FAR POTENTIALLY. IT COULD POTENTIALLY NOT GO FAR.

LET'S SAY IT THAT WAY. I MEAN IT COULD IF WE DON'T GET ANY 80,000. BUT. WE WANT TO SAY UP TO 20,000 OR UP TO 50,000. I JUST. CAN IT BE EQUALLY SHARED SO THAT ALL THE APPLICANTS SO, SO. I AM SO SORRY. SO THE DILEMMA IS IF WE GET AN APPLICATION AND THIS APPLICANT HAS AN AMAZING IDEA, THEY WANT TO PAINT, THEY WANT TO FIX THE SHINGLES. THEY'RE RESURFACING.

THEY'RE PUTTING UP NEW LIGHTS. RIGHT. AND THE MAX AWARD IS $20,000. AND YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER APPLICANT THAT IS ONLY DOING, YOU KNOW, THE BARE MINIMUM YOU CAN THEN ONLY PAY RIGHT? A BARE MINIMUM. SO IF YOU IF YOU DO EQUAL AMOUNTS, YOU MAY NOT HAVE EQUAL AMOUNT OF PROJEC.

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RIGHT? SO IT NEEDS TO BE UP TO AS OPPOSED TO EVERYBODY WILL GET THE SAME THING BECAUSE EVERYBODY MAY NOT BE DOING THE SAME QUANTITY OR QUALITY OF WORK. THAT WOULD GARNER THEM THE SAME AMOUNT AS APPLICANT A, WHO'S DOING A WHOLE LOT. OF. REAL FAS. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP TO AMOUNTS JUST BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IF YOU COULD SET UP SOME SORT OF PARAMETERS BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR BUSINESS BECAUSE LIKE, I'M SAYING, LIKE THE WAKEFIELD PLAZA, YOU'RE IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, IF THEY WANT TO, LIKE, PAINT THE WHOLE PLAZA, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE, HUGE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO THE FLOWER SHOP IS DOWNTOWN.

SO MAYBE WE'LL LOOK AT SOMETHING FOR IF YOU BUILD IF YOUR BUSINESS IS 10,000, I MEAN, WHAT, 1000FT■!S X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS? IT GOES UP TO THIS AMOUNT. SO IF YOU SAY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GIVE 10,000, IF THEY HAVE $15,000 AND YOU PUT THE OTHER FIVE WITH IT, AND WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BASED OFF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND YOU PUT IN A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT RANGES AND IN THAT WAY, BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF BASED BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO TRY AND YOU WANT TO TRY AND HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN. SO IF WE DO IT BASED OFF OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEN I THINK THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KEEPS YOU IN THAT.

THAT'S AS FAIR AS I CAN THINK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, HOW WE COULD GO ABOUT DOING IT? YES, MA'AM.

WE HAVE A RANGE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE SPREADSHEET JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA. YEAH, BUT. AND SO WE HAVE IT BROKEN OUT IN SMALL, MEDIUM AND LARGE, AND THE SMALL GOES UP TO 10,000. THE MEDIUM GOES UP TO 35,000. AND THE LARGE GOES UP TO 100,000. SO THE STORY. THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S FOR THE SMALL. I'M SORRY NOT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I GUESS MY ASSUMPTION WAS THAT PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS WAS THE SUBMISSION OF A PROPOSED BUDGET. SO THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. BUT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS SET AMOUNT EVEN THOUGH YOUR PROJECT MAY NOT EVEN REQUIRE THAT. SO ARE WE ASKING FOR A PROPOSED BUDGET AND PROJECT PLAN AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS OR NO? WELL, WHAT? SO WHAT INITIALLY WE DID WAS TO STATE THAT WE IF WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THE APPROACH OF DISTRIBUTING THE MONEY EQUALLY BETWEEN THE WARDS, UP TO $80,000 PER WARD AND BASED ON THE APPLICATIONS WE GET, THEN THAT WOULD DETERMINE REALLY WHETHER OR NOT THEY MET THE 80,000 OR LESS. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD GET THAT AMOUNT, BUT IT WOULD BE CENTERED AROUND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING. AND THEN OF COURSE, FOR THE COMMITTEE, THAT WOULD BE READING THESE, THESE APPLICATIONS, IT AGAIN, WOULD WE WOULD LOOK AT IMPACT OVERALL IMPACT, VISIBILITY, LOCATION, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING HEARING TO THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE SET FORTH. AND SOME OF THAT COULD BE, AGAIN, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE WINDOWS AWNINGS. IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT BE DOING BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF. JUST MY $0.02. I THINK PART OF THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE A PROPOSED BUDGET BASED ON WHAT THEY SAY THEY WANT TO DO, AND I THINK THEN THAT GIVES THE COMMITTEE SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND OKAY, THIS IS REASONABLE. AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S SEE HOW MANY OF THESE WE CAN FUND. BUT YES, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. GREAT.

I PROMISE. AND I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE SMALL SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT I WAS GOING TO CALL THE TAXPAYER, THE STRIP MALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THERE. AND THERE WAS NO MORE THAN MAYBE 700FT■!S OR WHATEVERI THINK IF YOU WENT SMALLER AND BECAUSE I MEAN, LIKE, YOU SAID, I THINK WHAT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FRALEY SAID HAVING TO SUBMIT A BUDGET ONCE THEY SUBMIT THAT BUDGET, IF YOU HAVE LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S 700FT■!S, I ME, THE MOST WE GIVE IS $5,000. I MEAN, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT A LIMIT ON THERE, I GUARANTEE YOU EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS. IF THE MAX IS 20,000, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE $20,000 WORTH OF STUFF. THEY WANT TO HAVE DONE. SO IF WE I THINK FIRST YOU HAVE THEM SUBMIT A BUDGET, YOU MAKE IT. LET THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BE SMALLER. IF YOU'RE GOING TO EVEN PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THERE. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY,

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WE WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE. AND THEN FROM THERE YOU CAN. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PUT SOME SORT OF DISCLAIMER OR SOMETHING ON THERE UP TO A PARTICULAR AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE IT GIVE A MORE WIDE RANGE, BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, A FLOWER SHOP OR A HAIR SALON MAY BE ONLY BE ABOUT 500FT■!S. O I DON'T THINK THAT A 500 SQUARE FOOT BUSINESS SHOULD BE IN THERE WITH A TEN ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS. SO ONCE THEY PUT THEIR BUDGET IN THERE, YOU SEE WHAT IT IS THAT THEY HAVE. LIKE I SAID, THEN YOU KIND OF COME BACK TO THE TABLE AND REALLY SEE JUST HOW MUCH OF THESE, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH OF THIS MONEY YOU CAN ACTUALLY DIVVY OUT TO. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO TRY. WE WANT TO TRY AND HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO I LIKE THE IDEA TO SUBMIT A BUDGET AND YOU JUST SORT OF SEE WHAT IT IS. AND IF MAYBE IF YOU PUT SOMETHING BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THEIR BUSINESS, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE UP TO THIS AMOUNT. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, MY HAIR SALON IS ONLY 500FT■!S, BUT UP TO 10,000FT■!S. Y'ALL GIVING 20,000? I'M GONNA DO $20,000 WORTH OF WORK HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE IT MORE OF A WIDER RANGE AND THEN JUST SORT OF SEE WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. AND FROM THERE, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT TOWARDS IT? OKAY. SO I THINK THEY HAVE THE DIFFERENT SQUARE FOOTAGES AND AMOUNTS. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE KEEP IT OPEN AND RESTRICT PEOPLE BY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SO THEY WON'T APPLY FOR MORE THAN WHAT THAT RANGE IS. HOWEVER, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PART ABOUT WHO WE'RE PAYING AND WHO GETS THE MONEY AND HOW IT'S DONE. I MEAN, REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS SOMETIMES ARE CHALLENGING FOR SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT THE MONEY OUT FIRST TO GET IT BACK. I'M OLD KAY WITH COMING UP WITH SOME LEVEL OF PAYMENT PLAN RELATED TO WORK BEING DONE, WHETHER IT'S A THIRD UP FRONT AND THEN BILL. YEAH, SO THAT WE'RE NOT TOTALLY OUT OF MONEY. LIKE YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, HERE'S SOMEBODY WE'LL GIVE YOU THE TOTAL AMOUNT. RIGHT. SO I AGREE ON THAT. BUT WHETHER WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH THE WITH GIVING THE FUNDING TO THE APPLICANT, AND I THINK LOOKING AT THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS TO SEE WHO GOT THE MONEY, WAS IT THE APPLICANT OR WAS IT CONTRACTORS? I THINK CONTRACTORS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DICEY, BUT ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? AROUND SOMETHING UP FRONT? NOT THAT IT NOT BE REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE PAY. SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS AGREED TO OUR PAYMENT TERMS. WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH FOR THE PROGRAM THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO DO WORK TO GET PAID OF SORTS.

ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? COUNCILMAN MITCHELL, COUNCIL MEMBER SO I THINK THAT PIECE.

MAKING SURE IS NOT DISCRIMINATORY. AND THEN IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT, THAT'S FINE. THE PAYMENT IN THOSE SCHEDULES. AND IF Y'ALL CAN GET THAT TO US ON NOVEMBER THE 4TH, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST OPEN IT UP. AND I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT. WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND ANTICIPATING A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN HAPPEN.

AND IF WE GET PRESENTED WITH THAT CHALLENGE, YOU CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO US FOR US TO CONSIDER. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO ALRIGHT, NOVEMBER FOURTH, MADAM CITY CLERK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER ROGERS. ITEM NUMBER 17. MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND

[XIII.17. Council Discussion and Possible Action to Purchase (1) 2024 F-150 Lightning AWD Supercrew Cab 5.5" Box 145" WB Pro(W1B) from Hardy Family Ford in the Amount of $63,935.00. State Contract 99999-SPD-SPD0000155-0005]

POSSIBLE ACTION. THERE'S A SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? COUNCIL MEMBER. FREELY. YEAH. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS ONE. 17 AND 18 ARE BOTH FOR THE PURCHASE OF FORD VEHICLES. -17 ONLY. 18 APPEARS TO BE A FORD VEHICLE. NO, IT'S FOR A DIFFERENT PART. OH OKAY. OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT, MY QUESTION WAS WHY WOULD WE NOT BUY ALL FROM ONE DEALER. WOULD THAT POTENTIALLY REALIZE A COST SAVINGS? OR IS THERE A REASON WHY WE'RE GOING TO TWO DIFFERENT DEALERS FOR I REFER TO THE FLEET DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE THE TRUCK. THAT'S WHAT HE THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME TO GO AND WHAT HE'S DOING, HE'S STANDARDIZING HIS FLEET FROM CHEVROLETS AND ALL DIFFERENT TYPES TO STANDARD TO FORD. ALL FORD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THAT WAS THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION ON THAT. WELL, THANK YOU. MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED THEIR SECOND SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT ITEM 17 BE APPROVED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. THOSE

[XIII.18. Council Discussion and Possible Action to Purchase 2 Ford F150 Using State Contract with Vendor Allan Vigil Ford State Contract 99999-SPD-ES40199373-002 in the Amount of $132,940 CIP Approved Funding Vehicles]

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OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER 18. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND. YEAH. MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. WELL, YOU CAN EITHER MAKE A MOTION OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION OR A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND WE GO IN ON DISCUSSION HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. OKAY. SO MOVED IS THERE A SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECOND. AND WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND. YEP. SO ON ITEM 18. IT'S FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO VEHICLES. AND I LOOKED IN THE DETAILS AND THE INVOICE AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE BASE PRICE OF THE VEHICLES IS SORT OF HALF THE FINAL COST WITH ALL OF THE EXTRAS. AND SO I'M CURIOUS IF YOU CAN PROVIDE ANY CONTEXT ON HOW DID WE END UP PAYING DOUBLE THE BASE PRICE? OKAY. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE INVOICES NOW. WE ADDED WHAT IS THAT THE FUEL FLEX FOR 2350. THE EXTENDED FUEL TANK THE 4X4. THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT WE NEED TO CRAFT VEHICLE. AS I'M LOOKING I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. ANYTHING PARTICULAR THAT YOU WANT ME TO DISCUSS OR IS PRICING. SO THE MOST EXPENSIVE EXTRA IS THE FLEX FUEL. IS THAT THE WHAT SIR. WHAT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE OPTION ON THOSE THAT WE'VE SELECTED? OKAY. THE ONE IS THE FIVE POINT V8 ENGINE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED FOR OFF ROAD. WE WENT WITH THE LOWER PACKAGE WHICH IS 2350. THEY HAD A HIGHER PACKAGE FOR 29. THE STANDARD FUEL TANK FOR $410. FOR THE FOUR SUPER CREW CAB, 5500 REGULAR CAB WAS 5200. WE WENT WITH THE LOWEST PACKAGE ON THE CREW CAB, OF WHICH WAS EIGHT 765. THE OTHER PACKAGE WAS 9995 LIMITED, LIMITED SLIP RESISTANT. THERE WAS ONLY ONE OPTION, 1345 DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS, $95. I I'M THINKING I'M LOOKING AT TRYING TO SEE WHAT WHAT CHANGES CAN WE MAKE IN THAT? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU MAKE ANY CHANGES IF YOU FEEL THAT ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE DUTY, THE DUTIES THAT THESE VEHICLES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO. I JUST RAISED MY EYEBROW THAT WE WERE SORT OF DOUBLING THE COST. YEAH. I MEAN, WE THE SPRAY IN BEDLINER WE CAN WE CAN REDUCE THAT, REDUCE THAT.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE NEED. WE ADDED THE LED RUNNING BEACONS FOR HAZARD LIGHTS. THAT'S FOR, YOU KNOW, AFTER HOURS. SO WHEN WE PULLED OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD DURING WORK, WE ADDED THAT. SO I'M, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT SOME EVERYTHING ON HERE IS WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD ORDER AND WHAT WE WOULD NEED FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? YES. BLESS YOU. BLESS YOU. MOTION TO APPROVE. ITEM 18. AND MOVE IT PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION

[XIII.19. Council Discussion and Possible Action to Purchase 24 Trip Savers and 10 Gateway Tantalus Modems from Sole Source Distributor Gresco in the Amount of $150,600.00 from CIP FY25 Account # 510-4740-541.14-00]

CARRIES. NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 19. COUNCIL MEMBER. FREEMAN. MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. FLOOR IS OPEN. COUNCILMEMBER FREEMAN, THANK YOU. SO MY QUESTION ON ITEM 19 ALSO ON THIS INVOICE IT IT INCLUDES A NUMBER OF POWER CORDS. AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS EQUIPMENT IS. SO I JUST I'M JUST ASKING FOR AN EXPLANATION. BUT THE POWER CORDS ARE $300 EACH. YES. THAT'S A IT'S LIKE A WIRING HARNESS FOR EACH. FOR EACH TRIP SAVER COMM GATEWAY. SO FOR EACH DEVICE NEED A POWER CORD. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE VENDORS PRICE I MEAN THAT'S WE THIS THIS IS AT ONE POINT WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED THE TRIP SAVERS. WE DID OUR BEST TO TRY TO WIRE UP OURSELVES. WE WAS VERY UNSUCCESSFUL. SO IT WAS DELAYED. IT WAS A DELAY WITH US GETTING THESE SAVERS INSTALLED.

SO THEREFORE WE HAVE TO PURCHASE THE WIRE HARNESS. SO CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THESE POWER CORDS ARE? ARE THESE MASSIVE POWER CORDS. NO. IT'S JUST IT'S, IT'S LIKE AN EXTENSION CORD THAT HAS

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TO BE POWERED, THAT GOES FROM THE DEVICE TO THE TRANSFORMER TO, TO PROVIDE POWER. AND THEY COST $300 EACH. YES, SIR. IS THAT NORMAL IN YOUR EXPERIENCE FOR THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT? LAST TIME? YES. I MEAN FOR, FOR US IT WOULD BE I MEAN I CAN WITH THAT THIS IS A THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS ONLY SOLD THROUGH SAC ELECTRIC COMPANY. SO THIS IS THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE FOR ME TO GET THIS. I COULDN'T SEARCH FOR IT ON AMAZON LIKE THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE FOR ME TO GET THIS.

THIS WIRING HARNESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING? WE NEED MOTION TO APPROVE OR TAKE ACTION. IF THAT'S THE DESIRED COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF 24 TRIP RECEIVERS AND TEN GATEWAY. TANTALUS MODEMS. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE ALREADY DID. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS ON CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER 21.

[XIII.21. Council Discussion and Possible Action of Femproz Inc, for Parks & Recreation Department, from the RFQ 2025-1870 Colonial Hills & River Park Pavilion NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $47,900.00 AND FUNDING SOURCE: ARPA]

MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, ARE YOU THE ONE THAT HAD QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I DID AND MY QUESTION IS WE'RE INSTALLING. WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE INSTALLING PAVILIONS. YES, MA'AM. SO WE DID CONSTRUCTION DESIGN IN 2020. AND I THINK COLONIAL UNITY WAS LIKE 22. THIS WAS A CAPITAL APPROVED ITEM. THE LAST PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION WAS PUT IN THE SHADED PAVILIONS AND THOSE TWO PARKS. SO ARE WE GOING TO INSTALL PAVILIONS IN THE REST OF THE PARKS? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S BUT YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT. YEAH. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. GET IT UP TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER PARKS. SO IT'S SO HAVE WE INSTALLED PAVILIONS IN THE OTHER PARKS OR IS ARE THESE THE FIRST ONES THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN. NO, WE HAVE PAVILIONS INSTALLED. SO SOME OF THE RENOVATIONS THAT I HAVE DONE HAD THE PAVILIONS IN IT, AND I HAD THE FUNDING THROUGH CDBG, AND I GOT THIS FUNDING TO FINISH OUT THOSE PARKS THAT I'M HIGHLIGHTING. SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GO TO SOME THE PARK. YES. WHAT ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE PAVILIONS AND THE BENCHES WAS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. SO HAVE Y'ALL UPGRADED THOSE. YES. SO IT'S A LOT MORE COMPREHENSIVE OBVIOUSLY, THAN WHAT I'M BRINGING TONIGHT. THE CONNECTING POINTS BETWEEN THE UPPER PARK AND THE LOWER PARK IS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE, AND IT'S STARTING TO ERODE. SO THE PLAN IS TO COLONIAL HILL. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT SUMNER. OH, OKAY. OKAY. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT ONE NOW BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. SO IN REGARDS TO THE PAVILIONS, YES, IT'LL BE MATCHING WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER PARKS. OKAY. AND BECAUSE I KNOW AND YOU KNOW I'VE, I'VE SAID THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WE'VE BEEN DOING COLONIAL HILL AND BROOKDALE PARK FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE OTHER PARKS IN THE AREA. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD IT UP. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH PARK, CENTER, PARK, SUMNER PARK RETAIN PARK SITE SITES, PARK. THEY'RE GETTING THE SAME ATTENTION AS WE'VE GIVEN THESE PARKS. AND WE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF THAT. SO SOME OF THE THINGS, LIKE WITH BROOKDALE PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S SOME FUNCTIONING THINGS THAT'S WRONG. AND I'LL BE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH. BUT WE'VE TRIED TO SPREAD THE WEALTH WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS. WE DID A FULL RENOVATION ON EGAN. SUMNER PARK IS A VERY LARGE PARK, SO WE'VE BEEN INCREMENTALLY IMPROVING IN THOSE SPACES. WE MOST RECENTLY DID THE TENNIS COURT. WE'RE ABOUT TO CORRECT THE STEPS OVER THERE. WE'RE ABOUT TO MAKE SOME MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO GRAYSON PARK. THE SOFTBALL FIELD. I'LL BE BRINGING IT NEXT MONTH. WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPROVING THE PLAYGROUNDS IN EVERY PART THAT WE HAVE WITH ADA ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT AND GETTING IT UP TO CODE, SO IT'S JUST BEEN A PROCESS OF IT. BUT I'LL BE BRINGING IT IN THE NEXT COMING MONTHS. OKAY. YEP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NO WORRIES. MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM 21 SECOND. PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY

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DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER

[XIII.22. Council Discussion and Possible Action on JOC Construction LLC GA-ST03-040820-LRI Demo and Rebuild Stairs Connecting Sumner Dog Park and Upper Playground and Install Safety Call Box NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $144,993.93 FUNDING SOURCE: ARPA]

22. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. SO MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED. OPEN THE MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR AND DISCUSSION ON ITEM 22. SUMNER CONSTRUCTION TO REBUILD THE STAIRS CONNECTING TO SUMNER PARK. DOG PARK IN THE UPPER PLAYGROUND. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS. SO MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED. SO YOU ARE ARE YOU INSTALLING NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT? WHAT ARE YOU. WELL THAT'LL BE ON NEXT MONTH. BUT I'M WORKING WITH A COMPANY CALLED GAME TIME AND WE'LL BE ADDING AUTO, SENSORY AND ADA ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT TO ALL OF OUR PARKS. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S APPROVED. BUT I'LL BE PRESENTING THAT ON NEXT MONTH. OKAY? OKAY. AND ARE YOU INSTALLING THE NEW BARBECUE GRILLS OR. YES, THOSE ARE OUR AMENITIES, BUT IT'S UNDER THE THRESHOLD. SO THOSE THINGS WILL BE PUT OUT IN THE PARKS, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM. SO THEY'LL BE NEW. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH GO AHEAD. MOTION TO APPROVE.

ITEM 22. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW ITEM NUMBER 23. AND FOUR WERE CONSENT 25 WAS REMOVED. WE ARE NOW AT ITEM NUMBER 26. DO WE. NEED TO

[XIII.26. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Authority for Legal to Execute the Joint Representation Letter - City of East Point Condemnations - Cleveland]