[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]
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          EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          SHROPSHIRE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FRIEDLI. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          CUMMINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. ROGERS. PRESENT. MADAM MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO THROUGH THE ITEMS AND SEE WHAT CAN GO TO CONSENT. LET'S START WITH PREVIOUS WILL GO THROUGH THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN THE AGENDA UPDATE ON POLICING. WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON NON-OWNER OCCUPIED CERTIFICATION. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. AND WE'LL MOVE THAT TO BECOME DECEMBER WORK SESSION. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER LITTER PICK UP ILLEGAL DUMPING. I DON'T SEE, JEFF. WE CAN LEAVE IT ON IN CASE HE COME IN. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER. ARE WE READY FOR AN UPDATE ON THE 30 6090 DAY PLAN? COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER I BELIEVE JEFF WAS GOING TO BE PREPARED TO DO AN UPDATE EIGHT UPDATE TONIGHT. I THINK HE MIGHT JUST BE RUNNING LATE. POWER OUTAGES. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER UPDATE ON PATH T-SPLOST. COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS ARE WE READY? COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS YES WE ARE. WE SENT OUT THE VACANCY REPORT. I APOLOGIZE FOR SENDING IT OUT AT THE 11TH HOUR, BUT WE WERE WAITING TO GET SOME LAST MINUTE INFORMATION. I EMAILED IT TO EVERYBODY AND ALSO THE CITY CLERK. PUT ONE AT YOUR SPACE, SIR. OKAY. LOCAL, FULL ECOSYSTEM COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. WE'LL KEEP THAT. OKAY. CREDIT CARD POLICY. YEAH. LITTER PICKUP SCHEDULE. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER STUFF THAT USED TO BE ON PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM, LIKE UPDATE ON THE VACANT RENTAL? I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE PUT IT IN DECEMBER THE LAST MONTH. DID WE, IF I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE MISS JESSIE SAID SHE WAS GOING TO MEET WITH EVERYBODY ABOUT HOUSING. GO AHEAD. MISS JESSIE. OKAY. AND THE SQUATTERS AND THE ALL OF. THAT'S DECEMBER. 
          OKAY, OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ALCOHOL LICENSE. PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED. IS THE 
          [IV.12. CRU Consumption on Premises Alcohol License- Public Hearing Required]
APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT FOR CREW CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES? THIS HAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. DO YOU ALL WANT TO JUST PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA? YEAH. CIRCLE K NUMBER 183. IS THE APPLICANT 
          [IV.13. Circle K #183 Retail Sales Alcohol License- Public Hearing Required]
HERE FOR RETAIL ALCOHOL LICENSE. SO WE PUT BOTH OF THESE ON THE AGENDA. WAIT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CREW CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES. WHERE. SO A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED. SO IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA MONDAY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY I WAS ASKING IF THE APPLICANTS WERE HERE. IF THEY WERE HERE, WE COULD HEAR FROM THEM. BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE EITHER THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE. OKAY. I MEAN, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT ON MONDAY AS WELL, BUT YEAH. 12 AND 13. THE ALCOHOL LICENSE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE REQUIRED. NEITHER THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE. SO EITHER WE DISCUSS IT TONIGHT AND MONDAY OR WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ANYWAY. SO. OKAY. RIGHT. JUST PUT IT ON THOSE TWO ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 14. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 15. 
          [IV.14. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Purchase of 1 (One) Police Department Paddy Wagon from Akins Ford LLC. for $64,618.50 Under State Contract #99999-SPD-ES40199409. from Capital Improvement GL# 350-3210-542.22-00]
          [IV.15. Council Review and Approval of Additional Funding for Cleaning and Disinfecting Spraying Services at City Buildings. Current Contracted Cleaning Service Vendor Building Maintenance Services, Will Prove the Services. the Additional Cost of Services Are NOT to Exceed $75,000.00.]
ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 16. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? NO. FURTHER RESEARCH ON THIS IS NOT. 
          [IV.16. Council Approval for the (5) Five Year Financing Purchase and Maintenance of (4) Four Leaf Vacuum Collection Trucks. Financing Provided by "LEASING 2, INC". Annual Finance and Maintenance Cost $287,825.15, Total (5) Year $1,439,125.75, from CIP Fund Account.]
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I'M ON NUMBER 16. I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN PUERTO RICO YET. UNLESS YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IN THE AGENDA ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. OKAY. 16 CONSENT. 17. CONSENT 18. CONSENT. I SHOULD 
          [IV.17. Council Review and Approval of Emergency Repair of Sewer Line Repair on 4173 Sun Valley Blvd Due to Physical Damage to the Pipe. This is an Emergency Due to Life, Health or Safety Risk to the Public According to City Ordinance Section. 4-3306 Emergency Procurement. Per RFQ#2024-1857 the Selected Vendor for the Emergency Repair is Metals and Materials Engineers in the Amount of 150,050.]
          [IV.18. Council Review and Approval of Emergency Repair of Project Repaving on Piney Wood Lane Due to the Subgrade Not Being Properly Compacted During the Course of Paving Operations. This is an Emergency Due to Life, Health or Safety Risk to the Public According to City Ordinance Section.4-3306 Emergency Procurement. This Emergency Repair was Completed by Civil Works in the Amount Not to Exceed $87,880.]
          [IV.19. Council Review and Approval of Emergency Repair of Project Repaving on Piney Wood Drive Due Subgrade Not Being Properly Compacted During the Course of Paving Operations. This is an Emergency Due to Life, Health or Safety Risk to the Public According to City Ordinance Section. 4-3306 Emergency Procurement. This Emergency Repair was Completed by Civil Works in the Amount Not to Exceed $37,300.]
SAY 19. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT 20. ANY OBJECTIONS TO CONSENT 21. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT 22. 
          [IV.20. Council Review and Approval for the Purchase of Itron 100W Endpoints ERW-1300-402 Reading Equipment, from United Systems(Sole Source Provider), in an Amount Not to Exceed $32,400.00. This is a Budgeted Request from the Capital Improvement Budget]
          [IV.21. Council Review and Approval of Emergency Repair of the Roadway on Spring Ave Due to Recent Sewer Line Replacement in the Area Which Has Led to Significant Disturbance of the Roadway. This is an Emergency Due to Life, Health or Safety Risk to the Public According to City Ordinance Section. 4-3306 Emergency Procurement. This Emergency Repair was Completed by Civil Works in the Amount Not to Exceed $57,150.]
          [IV.22. Council Review and Approval of Emergency Repair of Site Restoration and Sinkhole Repairs on 2955 Heather Drive Due to Finalizing the Sewer Line Replacement Project by Restoring Properties Effected by the Construction Activities Including Driveway/Roadway, Restoration/Repairs, Shrub Replacement, Fall Prevention, and Erosion Issues. This is an Emergency Due to Life, Health or Safety Risk to the Public According to City Ordinance Section. 4-3306 Emergency Procurement. Per RFQ#2024-1857 This Emergency Repair was Completed by Autaco in the Amount Not to Exceed $56,984.]
ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 23. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT 24. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT 23. WHAT? 
          [IV.23. Council Review and Approval to Piggyback from Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority Contract with AWG to Purchase Transformers, Not to Exceed $1,446,211.00. Due to Supply Chain Issues Transformer Lead Times Are from 40 to 45 Weeks, and This Contract Would Allow the City to Secure Future Transformers, in a Timely Fashion. CIP Account # 510-4740- 541.15-01 Transformers]
          [IV.24. Council Review and Approval for Grid Hardening Project, Selected Vendor, Pike Engineering, from City of Marietta Contract- Piggyback, Not to Exceed $150,000]
PIGGYBACK FROM PUERTO RICO ELECTRIC POWER AUTHORITY. OKAY. 25. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 
          [IV.25. Council Review and Approval of Vendor Gametime, from Cooperative Agreement OMNIA Partners, for Playground Equipment in City Parks Including: Egan Park, John D. Milner, Bryan Park, Colonial Hills Unity Park, River Park, Sumner Park, Bryan Park and Brookdale Park to Include ADA Compliant Standards and Auto Sensory Equipment. CIP APPROVED; FUNDING SOURCE ARPA in the Amount Not to Exceed $165,793.78]
23. MADAM. CITY DEPUTY CITY CLERK, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT. 23 I SAID CONSENT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT. 24 IS CONSENT. 25 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? EAGAN PARKS ON THE PART. RIVER PARK. LOT OF PARKS. 26. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 27 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 28 ANY 
          [IV.26. Council Discussion and Possible Action of Vendor Gametime, from Cooperative Agreement OMNIA Partners, for Playground Equipment in Center Park. CIP APPROVED and CIP FUNDING SOURCE; Amount Not to Exceed $35,756.66]
          [IV.27. Council Discussion and Possible Action for Prime Engineering Inc., from RFQ 2022-1790, for Civil/Site Design and Construction Management Services, for Rantin Park; CIP APPROVED and ARPA FUNDING SOURCE; Amount Not to Exceed $44,800.]
          [IV.28. Council Discussion and Possible Action on State Contract GA-ST03-040820-LRI, Vendor JOC Construction LLC, for Demo and Installation of CXT ADA Bathroom, Sidewalk Ramp, ReStrip Parking Lot and ADA Accessible Ramp to Playground; NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $300,201.53 FUNDING SOURCE: ARPA]
OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 28 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT. 29 ANY IS THE ORDINANCE WHICH MEANS IT IS GOING TO. I'M ASSUMING THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IT DOESN'T SAY IT ON THE AGENDA. IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT 1400 ELIZABETH LANE? OKAY. THAT'S FINE. WE WON'T WE'LL DISCUSS IT TONIGHT. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK 29 SHOULD SAY PUBLIC HEARING AND SPECIAL USE PERMITS AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING. RIGHT. AND 20 AND 30 SHOULD SAY PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S THE APPLICANT HERE FOR 2543 HOGAN ROAD. YES. OKAY. WE'LL DISCUSS IT TONIGHT. 
          REZONING REQUEST FOR 2447 MCALPIN TERRACE. OKAY. REZONING REQUEST FOR 2928 PALM DRIVE. THE 
          [IV.32. P2024RZ-006-08 Rezoning Request for Property Located at 2928 Palm Drive from R1-A District to R-3 District (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED)]
APPLICANT HERE. I'LL PUT A QUESTION MARK BESIDE IT. IN THE EVENT THAT THEY COME, WE CAN DISCUSS. IF NOT, ARE WE OKAY WITH MOVING THIS TO THE AGENDA? IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T SHOW? OKAY. 32. THE APPLICANT IS HERE, SO WE'LL DISCUSS IT. 33 YES. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING. DISCUSS AND 34 COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER INVESTIGATION AND COUNCIL MEMBERS BEHAVIOR. DISCUSS. ALRIGHT, SO, MADAM. DEPUTY CITY CLERK HAVE 12 AND 13 AS REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 14 THROUGH 22. CONSENT AGENDA. AND THEN 24 THROUGH 28 CONSENT AGENDA. ALRIGHTY. WE WILL THEN GO BACK TO EASTPOINT PARKS AND RECREATION, CULTURAL AFFAIRS 
          [II.1. East Point Parks and Recreation & Cultural Affairs Presents Special Needs Programs 2025]
PRESENTS SPECIAL NEEDS PROGRAMS 2025 FROM PARKS AND RECREATION. MISS JESSIE. MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I AM ASKING CHARLOTTE. EXCUSE ME. LAURA PICKETT TO COME FORWARD FOR THIS ITEM. 
          30. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION. I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST I'VE BEEN CHALLENGED ON BEING MORE INCLUSIVE WITH A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMING. WE ARE VERY SUPER DIVERSIFIED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS WE HAD ON 
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TONIGHT, WE'RE MAKING ALL OF OUR PLAY SPACES ACCESSIBLE. FROM A PROGRAMING STANDPOINT, I GOT TWO YOUNG LADIES DYNAMIC YOUNG LADIES THAT WILL BE WORKING IN THIS AREA FOR US MOVING FORWARD FOR 2025. SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT MISS STEPHANIE IVORY. SHE'S THE NEWEST PERSON TO OUR TEAM. SHE RUNS ALL OF OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS PRETTY MUCH 12 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. I'M STILL WONDERING HOW WE WERE SO LUCKY TO GET HER. SHE'S A TUSKEGEE GRADUATE WITH A CHEMICAL, A CHEMICAL ENGINEERING DEGREE. SUPER SMART, VERY CREATIVE. MOST RECENTLY, SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH A DRONE CAMP THAT WE HELD FOR THIS WINTER. SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE'S WORKING ON. AND I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE SPACE OF INCLUSIVENESS. WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY. COUNCILWOMAN LATONYA ROGERS STEPPED TO THE FOREFRONT AND DEFINITELY IS GOING TO BE A PART, AND I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU ALL WILL BE A PART OF SOME OF THE AMAZING THINGS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED IN THIS SPACE. ONE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. WE RECENTLY BECAME A MIRACLE LEAGUE PROVIDER, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SPORTS IN THIS SPACE AS WELL. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE. SO ABOUT PROGRAMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN 2025. AT THIS TIME I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE IVORY. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S WITH EAST POINT EDUCATION AND PARTNERSHIP WITH LOVE LIVE PLAY. AND WE'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE START. SO IT'S CALLED TOGETHER. 
          WE'RE ABLE A COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES FOR ALL ABILITIES. SO OUR MISSION IS SIMPLY TO FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE SPECIALIZED SERVICES FOR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES OF STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. SO WE VALUE INCLUSION, SUPPORT EMPOWERMENT, AND STRIVE TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL STUDENTS. SO THE OBJECTIVE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? WE'RE GOING TO OFFER RESOURCES, EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY FOR BOTH THE STUDENTS. AND WE SAY WITH EXCEPTIONAL ABILITIES AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE BELIEVE THAT ALL FAMILIES DESERVE ACCESS TO THESE TOOLS AND THE STATISTICS SHOW US ABOUT ONE IN EVERY 59 STUDENT. STUDENTS HAVE SOME TYPE OF DISABILITY. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU, BUT THROUGH OUR PROGRAMING, WE'RE AIMING TO CREATE A NETWORK OF SUPPORT THAT UPLIFTS FAMILIES WHILE ADVOCATING FOR THE NEEDS AND THE RIGHTS OF STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. AND THIS WILL HELP US CREATE A BETTER SOCIETY FOR ALL. SO THE FOUR MAIN PORTIONS OF OUR PROGRAM, WE HAVE COMMUNITY COLLABORATIONS THAT WILL BE THROUGH LIVE, LOVE, PLAY. WE'LL HAVE THE SPECIALIZED CLASSES. CHARLOTTE JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE MIRACLE LEAGUE AND SAFE PLAY SPACE FOR EACH STUDENT. SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EACH OF THOSE. SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR THE LIVE LOVE PLAY? WE'LL HAVE BIMONTHLY SESSIONS ON SUNDAYS, SUNDAY AFTERNOONS. DURING THAT TIME, THE REC CENTER WILL BE A LOT QUIETER THAN NORMAL, AND SO IT WILL BE A CHANCE FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO HAVE SPECIAL COMMUNITY COLLABORATIONS. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO DO CLASSES. WE'LL HAVE A SENSORY TOOLBOX, SOAP MAKING SOME GARDEN WORKSHOPS. SO WE REALLY HAVE OUR PLANNING PLANNED OUT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS STARTING IN JANUARY. THE MIRACLE LEAGUE, WE'RE NOW CERTIFIED MIRACLE LEAGUE PARTNER. AND SO THEY WILL ACTUALLY HOST GAMES AT THE RECREATION CENTER. SPECIALIZED CLASSES. WE'RE GOING TO BE AT ORTON-GILLINGHAM SPECIALIZED CLASS, WHICH HELPS STUDENTS WITH DYSLEXIA, WITH LITERACY, READING AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO BETTER APPROACH READING AND STUDYING FOR THEM WILL BE OFFERING THOSE INDIVIDUALLY AND VERY SMALL GROUP CLASSES. AND OUR FOURTH COMPONENT IS THE PLAY STATIONS OR THE PLAYGROUNDS, AND MAKING THOSE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO STUDENTS WHO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING ON SLIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHEN DOES IT START? WE ARE STARTING ON JANUARY 11TH, 2025. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BIMONTHLY SESSIONS ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS STARTING AT 3 P.M. SO THAT'S THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT. STARTING IN EAST POINT. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE WHY I'M SO VERY EXCITED TO HAVE STEPHANIE IVY LEAD THIS CHARGE FOR US. BUT WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. HOW WE WILL NEED YOU. ALL'S HELP IS HELPING PROMOTE IT. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO ALL EAST POINT RESIDENTS. SO WE'RE GOING TO START MARKETING THIS PROGRAM AS SOON AS TOMORROW. TRYING TO GET FAMILIES TO COME OUT. MIRACLE LEAGUE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OTHER CITIES. UNION CITY HAS A DEDICATED PLAY SPACE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING A GROUNDBREAKING ON NEXT MONTH, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO COLLABORATIVE GAMES IN THAT SPACE AS WELL WITH SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES. BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. COUNCILWOMAN BUTLER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOW 
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YOU DOING, MR. SPEAKER? DOING OKAY? BUT FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION. MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A COST FOR THE IS THERE A COST INVOLVED FOR THE KIDS? ZERO COST. AND HOW MANY CHILDREN DO YOU THINK WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REACH? LET ME TURN IT OVER TO THE SPECIALIST. SO ON THOSE SUNDAY SESSIONS, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT 20 STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. SO WE INVITE THE PARENTS ALSO TO COME WITH THE STUDENTS. SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO MAX OUT ABOUT 20 UNLESS WE HAVE A LARGER CLASS OF WHATEVER WE'RE OFFERING FOR THAT WEEK. AND MR. PICKETT, COULD YOU TELL US ONE MORE TIME HOW MUCH WAS THE COST? $0 EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I AM DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PROGRAM HERE. THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR VOLUNTEERS. IF WE WANTED TO COME OUT AND HELP ASSIST WITH THIS PROGRAM? YES. SO THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS I'VE BEEN ATTENDING SESSIONS THAT UNION CITY HAS HAD AND THE MIRACLE LEAGUE SPACE WITH SPORTS PROGRAMS, THEIR POLICE, FIRE COUNCIL PEOPLE, YOU NAME IT. HAVING A BIG GROUP PRESENT HELPS FACILITATE THE SPORTING ACTIVITIES. BUT WE'RE ALWAYS WELCOME FOR VOLUNTEER HELP. OKA. ANOTHER QUESTION. WHAT IS YOUR INTAKE PROCESS? I MEAN, I KNOW WE'LL GET THE WORD OUT AND THEN LET'S JUST SAY YOU GET AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO WHAT I MEAN, WHAT'S THE INTAKE PROCESS. IS THERE A REGISTRATION OR SO WITH ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS? WE GO THROUGH OUR SYSTEM ACTIVENET. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE SPACE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND BEING ABLE TO GET THAT SPECIAL ATTENTION THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED. WE WANT TO KEEP THE NUMBERS RELATIVELY SMALL, BUT THERE WILL BE A REGISTRATION LINK LIKE WE DO WITH ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS, AND ONCE WE'RE AT CAPACITY, WE'RE KIND OF THERE. NOW ON THE SPORTS SIDE, WE CAN PROBABLY TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE SPECIALIZED CLASSES THAT THESE TWO YOUNG LADIES WILL BE WORKING ON. OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION IS THIS FOR EAST POINT. EAST POINT RESIDENTS ONLY OR IS IT GOING TO SPREAD OUT TO SURROUNDING CITIES? WELL, ONE THING ABOUT LIKE MARKETING THROUGH LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TARGET JUST EAST POINT. BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS IN THE MAILER THAT GOES OUT AND THE BILLS, WE'RE GOING TO ADVERTISE THERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'LL TRY TO DO IT. BUT I KNOW THAT THE SPACE AND WORKING WITH KIDS AND THIS DEMOGRAPHIC, IF YOU WILL, SAY IT'S A NEED FOR IT. SO WE'RE THINKING WE'RE GOING TO GET AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO IT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TRY OUR BEST TO SEGMENT IT JUST FOR EAST POINT. BUT I'M HONESTLY IT'D BE KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR JUST EAST POINT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE WORD OUT. I UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW IF WE WERE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY FILL THOSE SPACES, IF WE REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN EAST POINT FOR THEIR SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS THERE, THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH GIVE YOU A CACHE OF. 
          YEAH. SO WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. WE'RE ALREADY IN ABOUT 4 OR 5 SCHOOLS HERE IN THE CITY. BEFORE WE DO ANY SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'RE PROBABLY ABLE TO FILL IT UP HONESTLY BY JUST WALKING AND TALKING TO OUR CONTACTS AT EAST POINT SCHOOLS. SO WE'LL START THERE. IF THE RESPONSE IS SLOW, WE'LL PROBABLY EXTEND OUR MARKETING. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PROGRAM. OH YEAH. GREAT. SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT. COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLAND. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT SOUNDS GREAT. I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS COMMENT. IF THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SOMEHOW VERIFY ADDRESSES OR RESIDENCY JUST TO ENSURE THAT EAST POINT CHILDREN GET FIRST PRIORITY? IF. YEAH, YEAH. SO THE GOOD THING ABOUT I, WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOLS SINCE PROBABLY LIKE 2016. I'M ACTUALLY REALLY THINKING BETWEEN AARON'S CONTACT WITH HER COMPANY, SHE DOES A LOT OF STUFF HERE IN THE CITY AS WELL. I'M ALL BUT CERTAIN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT JUST WITH RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN EAST POINT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING QUIETLY THROUGH THE SCHOOLS FIRST TO TRY TO GET THE BASE OF IT. BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FILL IT OUT WITH JUST AND DOING IT THAT ROUTE. YEAH. 
          AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE YOUNG LADY FROM IS IT LIVE LOVE PLAY? YES. LOVE LIVE PLAY. 
          CAN YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION? SURE. GREETINGS, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AARON BLAKE. I'M A PEDIATRIC OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST. AND MY COMPANY IS LOVE LIVE PLAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I SAW THAT THERE WAS A NEED AND A LACK OF RESOURCES FOR OUR CHILDREN WITH EXCEPTIONAL ABILITIES AND THEIR FAMILIES. SO I REACHED OUT TO EAST POINT BECAUSE MY CHILDREN, THEY ATTEND THEIR SPORTS PROGRAMS AND THEIR SUMMER CAMPS. SO I WAS LIKE, THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO INFILTRATE SOMEHOW BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH NEED IN THIS AREA. WEST SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE. SO START FROM SOMEWHERE. WELL, 
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THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH OF OUR WELL EMPLOYEE NOW AND PARTNER AND TO YOU, LORD, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN ENSURING WE CONTINUE TO SERVE ALL OF OUR CHILDREN AT ALL AGES WITH ALL EXCEPTIONALITIES AND SO I'M A BIG WORD PERSON SO GENERALLY AND I KNOW IN FULTON, WHEN I WAS IN FULTON COUNTY SCHOOL, THE DIVISION WAS CALLED THE SERVICES FOR EXCEPTIONAL CHILDREN DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION WITHIN THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALIZE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE, BUT STUDENTS WHO ARE GIFTED ALSO CAN HAVE IEPS, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT JUST STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. EXCEPTIONALITIES INCLUDES AN IEPS CAN BE FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES OR STUDENTS WHO ARE GIFTED. AND SO I THINK IF WE CAN AND YOU MENTIONED IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I HEARD YOU SAY EXCEPTIONALITIES OR EXCEPTIONAL CHILDREN. I THINK IF WE CAN JUST INTENTIONALLY FRAME IN THAT WAY, I THINK IT'S A STRENGTH BASED WORD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT ALL OF OUR CHILDREN AND ALL OF OUR FAMILIES, AND IN A VERY STRENGTH BASED APPROACH. AND SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU ALL ARE PROVIDING, I THINK PRIORITY TO EAST POINT RESIDENTS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE NEEDED IF THERE'S A GREAT NEED HERE. YOU MENTIONED THE CITY OF UNION CITY IS ALREADY DOING SOME WORK AS WELL. AND ABOUT TO OPEN A PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING NEED AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET AND HOW WE, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZE THE WORK OR MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCLUSIVE AND BE ABLE TO SERVE AND MEET THE NEEDS. RIGHT. AND HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT. I LOOK FORWARD, MISS JESSIE, TO YOU ALL BRINGING THAT BACK TO US AS WEL. I MEAN, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE START, BUT THE PROVIDER IN THE AREA SAYING THERE'S A GREAT NEED IN THE WEST SIDE AND SOUTH FULTON, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT ESPECIALLY AT THE BEST REC IN THE WORLD. THERE YOU GO. THAT SERVES HUNDREDS OF KIDS IN ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, AND WE'RE PROBABLY AT 1000 IF YOU ADD THEM ALL UP WITH THE DIFFERENT SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES. SO BUT I'M DEFINITELY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING EVEN PRESENTS STUDENTS WITH EXCEPTIONAL NEEDS OR I MEAN, MAYBE REFRAMING SPECIAL NEEDS PROGRAM TO SOMETHING MORE STRENGTH BASED. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY FEEDBACK. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GREAT. I JUST WANT US TO BE STRENGTH BASED. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. 
          NOTHING ELSE. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY ASK FOR US. YOU WERE JUST LETTING US KNOW. AND WE'LL KICK OFF ON JANUARY 11TH. WHEN WILL THE MARKETING START? TOMORROW. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL GETS THE MATERIALS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT THROUGH ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATION CHANNELS SO WE CAN SHARE FAR AND WIDE. BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING INCLUSIVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAKING SURE EQUITY AND INCLUSION IS MORE THAN A CLICHE. 
          APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. UPDATE ON OH ACTUALLY LET'S GO. TO THE THREE ZONING PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          ITEMS START WITH 29 THEN 30 AND 31. MISS JESSIE. MAYBE MISS SMITH DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO PRIORITIZE HER FIRST. SO WHO'S DOING THE LEE? LEE KELLY? OKAY, I COULD GO TO UPDATE ON POLICING IF YOU NEED TO AND THEN COME BACK TO IT. IF WE WANT. YOU WANT TO WAIT. OKAY? OKAY. CAN YOU LET HER KNOW WE'RE COMING TO HER NEXT? IS ANYONE HERE FOR UPDATE ON POLICING? OKAY, GUESS THAT WON'T BE MY STRATEGY. LET'S SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER MOVED THAT TO DECEMBER. LET'S TRY THE 30, 
          [III.4. 30/60/90 Day Plan on Litter Pickup and Illegal Dumping Cleanup]
60, 90 DAY PLAN ON LITTER PICKU. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL JEFF REEVES, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, IS HERE. AND CORDELL HALL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          TODAY WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU A AN UPDATE ON THE LITTER PICKUP AND ILLEGAL DUMPING 
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CLEANUP IN THE CITY, WHICH IS PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARRIE ZIEGLER. SO. JUST GO THROUGH THESE THINGS. YEAH. 30. 60. SO I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE STARTED TO DEAL WITH. AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'LL JUST GO DOWN TO OUR, YOU KNOW, ILLEGAL DUMPING PROGRAM, WHICH STARTED SEVERAL MONTHS AG, AND WE JUST BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MEET THOSE NEEDS IN THE CITY. AND AS COUNCIL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, OUR WHOLE TEAM THAT WE HAVE WORKING ON THIS PROGRAM AND, AND WE WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO ENCOMPASS MORE OF THE CITY STAFF INTO THE PROGRAM, RIGHT NOW. FIRST THING WE TRY TO ADDRESS IS THE LITTER ITSELF. SO WE HAVE TRIED TO GET TOGETHER OUR LITTER TEAM. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS THE LITTER TEAM IS CONCERNED, WE HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWING FOR A PROGRAM COORDINATOR. WE HAVE ONE THAT'S PENDING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET ON BOARD AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP WITH THE LITTER PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE LEAF VACUUM PROGRAM. 
          WE HAD APPROVED FOR FROM FINANCE FOR TEN PERSONS LITTER PATROL TEAM. WE'VE HIRED SIX. WE HAD THREE THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST. WE HAVE ONE PENDING RIGHT NOW. WE'VE MADE CONTACT WITH THE PARK LANE ELEMENTARY, WHO IS GOING TO BE COORDINATING. WORK WITH THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE CITY, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE CITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH HER TO TRY TO CONNECT TO OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE CITY. THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. WE HAVE WE HAVE ORDERED NEW ADDITIONAL NO LITTER SIGNS. WE HAVE POSTED SOME OF THOSE ALREADY. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOME MORE LOCATION TO POST, AND WE'RE MONITORING THE ILLEGAL DUMPING LOCATIONS. I MADE CONTACT WITH SOME OF OUR MARKETING TEAM, WHICH IS TO HELP US TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'LL BE FOLLOWING BACK UP WITH THEM, FOLLOWING UP WITH OUR MEETING IT DEPARTMENT TO POST OUR MARKETING MATERIAL. AND WE'RE PROTECTING WE STARTED PROTECTING SOME OF OUR ILLEGAL DUMPING AREAS WITH SOME BARRICADES, WHICH WE DID OVER IN RIVER PARK LAST WEEK, WHICH HAS BEEN A DUMPING AREA. 
          WE STARTED CLOSING OFF THOSE AREAS WITH WITH SOME BARRICADES THAT THEY STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEM, BUT WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. THAT THAT WAS A GREAT UPDATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. QUESTION. HOW HOW ARE YOU GETTING NOTIFIED OTHER THAN LIKE SEECLICKFIX, WHERE ILLEGAL DUMPING IS OCCURRING? LIKE, ARE YOU ARE YOU GETTING THE COMMUNICATION LIKE ON WHERE TO GO? WE HAVE WE HAVE ANY CALLS THAT COME THROUGH OUR PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE OR SOMETIMES I GIVE THEM A CALL DIRECTLY TOWARDS ME. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN RECEIVING A WHOLE LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING. WE HAVE HAD SOME FOLKS CONTACT US, ACTUALLY SOME RESIDENTS HAVE CONTACTED US AS WELL ABOUT SOME AREAS THAT MAY HAVE SOME EXTENSIVE LITTERING OR SOMETHING AT SOME POINT, OR A BAG OR SOMETHING DROPPED OUT OF SOMETHING. WE ALSO HAD A RESIDENT WHO ASKED US ABOUT PURCHASING BAGS BECAUSE SHE WAS DOING SOME SOME PICKUP HERSELF. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE, HOW WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN OUR PROGRAMS IN THE CITY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. AND CAN WE GO OVER THE SCHEDULE? I THINK THAT WAS PART OF WHAT YOU HAD ALSO. BUT IF. WOULD WOULD GO TO GO OUT GO OUT TO THE MAIN. WE CAN COMBINE THAT. OKAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND LET MAYOR YOU TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENT BEFORE I, COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. BEFORE WE MOVE TO 11, THOUGH. YES, MA'AM. NOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY. OTHER THAN THE SCHEDULE, BUT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS, YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME. YES. AND THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE JANUARY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE LITTER THING. AND FROM MY CALCULATIONS, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA. ONE TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT TIMES. BUT BACK IN MAY, I BELIEVE THAT 
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I MADE THE MOTION FOR A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND IT SAYS HERE, FROM THESE MEETING MINUTES THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US ON MAY 13TH WORK SESSION. SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE MOTION THAT IS ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION ON WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE PREVIOUSLY, BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO ADD IS I REQUESTED A FIVE DAY A WEEK LITTER PICKUP SCHEDULE COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, FIVE DAY A WEEK, A FIVE DAY A WEEK LITTER PICKUP SCHEDULE. THAT WERE YOU TELLING THEM TO PICK UP LITTER FIVE DAY A WEEK? NO, I REQUESTED IT FROM I'M SORRY I REQUESTED IT FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I WANTED A PROPOSAL AS TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR A FIVE DAY A WEEK LITTER PICK. YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT FROM COUNCIL. SO? SO WHEN WE HAVE TO BRING STUFF BACK SO MANY TIMES IT INCREASES THE CHANCE UNINTENTIONALLY OF COUNCIL GETTING WAY INVOLVED IN OPERATIONS. NO, I JUST WANTED A PROPOSAL OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY DOING THAT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION LIKE WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT. BUT HAVING A SCHEDULE OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. AGAIN, THE WAY THIS GOVERNMENT WORKS IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS OVER OPERATIONS AND THE DIRECTORS ARE TO LEAD THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND DO THE WORK AND BRING US PLANS AND SHARE WITH US WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND SO YOU HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT. AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE DONE. BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT MAKING VERY SPECIFIC REQUESTS, BECAUSE THAT CAN BE SEEN AS GIVING THEM A DIRECTIVE TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN THAT COUNCIL HASN'T APPROVED. BUT EVEN SHOULDN'T REALLY BE INVOLVED IN BECAUSE IT'S OPERATIONAL. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT, BUT I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID, LIKE WHEN THINGS COME BACK REPEATEDLY, IT RUNS THE RISK OF COUNCIL UNINTENTIONALLY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS OR ASKING FOR INFORMATION BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO COME BACK AND ACTION HASN'T BEEN TAKEN. SO IF YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE SCHEDULE OR, YOU KNOW, SAY, HAVE THEY CONSIDERED THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND AGAIN, WE VOTED BACK IN MAY 13TH FOR A BACK JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH. WE VOTED ON MAY 13TH FOR A PLAN TO COME BACK. IT WAS HEAVY DIALOG AND DISCUSSION, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THE ATLANTA KID WHO HAS CUT BACK ON THEIR SERVICES, I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT WARD IN MY. MY HOPE WAS THAT WE COULD DIVIDE THIS CITY INTO THE FOUR WARDS THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS PICK UP LITTER FIVE DAYS A WEEK. IT'S BEING DONE IN ONE OTHER CITY, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THE CLEANLINESS OF THIS CITY IS JUST IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE NEED DELIVERABLES AS WELL. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT NIGHT COMMUNICATING WITH THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ABOUT THE OFF RAMP MAINTENANCE, DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR DUMPING SITES. I FEEL AS THOUGH WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, BUT WHERE IS THE DELIVERABLE? WHERE IS THE WORK? THAT'S BEING DONE? I KNOW FOR WARD D, BEN HILL ROAD, WASHINGTON ROAD, DESERT DRIVE FROM I-285 TO OLD FAIRBURN ROAD, EVERY TUESDAY I SEND AN EMAIL AND I REQUEST LITTER PICKUP. SO I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. MY ISSUE IS WHEN DO WE SEE IT? I MEAN, I DON'T I MEAN, WHEN DO WE SEE IT? I'M CONSTANTLY GETTING TELEPHONE CALLS, CONSTANTLY JUST ABOUT THE LITTER. SO I UNDERSTAND ABOUT DIPPING INTO OPERATIONS. BUT THIS HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA SINCE JANUARY EIGHTH. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS MY ASK IS WE'VE ALREADY DONE A MOTION PREVIOUSLY BACK ON. MAY 13TH. DO WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER MOTION BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INTERIM, A NEW INTERIM CITY MANAGER IN PLACE? OR LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO AT THIS POINT? SO WE ARE GETTING A MOTION. THE MOTION AND THE MOTION STILL STANDS. HE'S BROUGHT BACK SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS IN TONIGHT. SEVEN 
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SLIDES OF A PLAN. WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN SHOWS I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SUPPOSED TO READ THIS. THIS WEEK ONE OR WEEK TWO. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE PAGES TO THIS, BUT THE SECOND ROW HAS STREETS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. THE FIRST ROW HAS STREETS THREE DAYS A WEEK. WARD A IS LISTED TWICE. 
          WARDS B, C, AND D ARE ONLY ONCE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS REPRESENTS. SO MAYBE IF THEY COULD EXPLAIN THIS. THIS IS, I THINK, WHAT HE'S SAYING. THE CURRENT SCHEDULE IS AM I RIGHT, MISS JESSIE? YES, MA'AM. I CAN JUST TRY TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF THOSE QUESTIONS. IF YOU'RE READY FOR THAT. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK EXPLAINING WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN MAY BE HELPFUL TO ADJUST THE SCHEDULE AND SEE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I STILL HAVE COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER THREE AS WELL. MR. REEVES. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR, WHAT WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN IS, IS A THREE, FIVE DAY WEEK PROGRAM. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU SEE, SOME STREETS MAY BE MENTIONED TWICE. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WILL RUN BETWEEN WARDS. SO WE PUT THEM ON THERE LIKE THAT. SO I WAS SAYING WARD. 
          SO WARD A IS LISTED TWICE. WARDS B, C AND D ARE LISTED ONCE. IS THIS A FIRST AND SECOND WEEK SCHEDULE OR FIRST AND THIRD WEEK AT THE TOP. SECOND AND FOURTH AT THE BOTTOM? THIS IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. WE DO THIS EVERY WEEK. THESE STREETS. THIS IS WHAT WE DO EVERY WEEK ON MONDAY. 
          THIS FROM MONDAY A C AND D AND A AND B. THAT'S WHAT'S DONE ON ON MONDAY. ON TUESDAYS YOU CAN SEE WHERE WILLINGHAM AND THOSE STREETS. ON WEDNESDAY YOU'LL SEE THOSE STREETS ON THURSDAY. AND ON FRIDAY. AND TO ANSWER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN'S QUESTION A FEW WEEKS AGO, SHE SHE DID ASK FOR A SCHEDULE AND DID INFORM US THAT THERE WAS THAT KID WOULD BE AT SOME POINT TEMPORARILY REDUCING THEIR SCHEDULE. SO WE DID SEND A SCHEDULE TO COUNCIL MEMBER WELL, TO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, I'M ASSUMING COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, AND THEN WE ALSO SEND IT OVER TO SID. THEY ASKED FOR OUR SCHEDULE. WE SEND IT TO THEM AS WELL. SO ALSO BECAUSE SID WAS WORKING CAMP CREEK, WE HAVE INITIATED OUR CONTRACTORS TO DO CAMP CREEK PARKWAY, ITSELF A GDOT ROUTE. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BEGINNING AT WASHINGTON ROAD AND CAMP CREEK, GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN CAMP CREEK TO THE INTERSECTION OF FAIRBURN AND CAMP OLD FAIRBURN ROAD AND CAMP CREEK. THE OFF RAMPS WE MENTIONED OFF RAMPS, OUR STAFF ALREADY CLEANS THE OFF RAMPS, BOTH ON 166 AT DILLARD STANTON. 
          WE CLEAN THOSE ALREADY. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THE OFF AND ON RAMPS AT LEE STREET OR MAIN STREET, THE ONE COMING FROM TYLER PERRY STUDIOS. WE CLEANED THAT. THE OFFICE OF ONE COMING OFF. WE CLEANED THAT RAMP AND WE CUT THEM IN THE SUMMERTIME. SO THESE SCHEDULE, I MEAN, IF WE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION I GUESS COUNCIL MEMBER DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS HAS MENTIONED DOING THESE, DOING EVERY AWARD PER WEEK OR AWARD A DAY. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO A FIVE DAYS, A WEEK. THE TRUE HONESTY I THINK WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING OUR STAFF HAS BEEN MONITORING THIS CITY. WE SEE A DIFFERENCE. I DON'T WE DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF CALLS. AND IF ANYONE GETS SOME CALLS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO US AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CONCENTRATE ON THOSE AREAS A LITTLE BIT MORE. IF THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON. BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THIS CITY FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS. WE KIND OF KNOW WHERE THE SPOTS ARE THAT HAVE HEAVY LITTERING AND DUMPING, AND WE TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE AS BEST WE CAN. AS YOU SEE, WE HAD TEN PEOPLE THAT WERE APPROVED AND WE HAVE SIX HIRED. SO WE WORK WITH THOSE SIX PEOPLE, REST OUR STAFF HAVE OTHER JOBS. THEY NEED, THEY HAVE TO DO, BUT WE TAKE THEM AS WE AS WE GO. WE HAVE STAFF THAT WORKS ON THE WEEKENDS. THAT'S CONGLOMERATE OF EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS DIVISIONS COME IN AND THEY WORK ON THE WEEKEND TO DO LITTER PATROL BEFORE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. OUR STAFF ADDRESSES THOSE LITTER AREAS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHT OUR CITY. SO THOSE AREAS ARE MAINTAINED DURING THOSE EVENTS AS WELL. SO IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATION ABOUT DOING SOMETHING OR SOME PROPOSAL FIVE 
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DAYS A WEEK, WE CAN WORK ON THAT PER DIRECTIVE FROM OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT COME UP WITH IF THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'LL GLADLY DO IT. 
          IF THE SCHEDULE IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO WHAT SOMEONE WANTS OR HAS NOT. NOT BEEN EXPLAINED AS WELL, WE'LL WE'LL SIT BACK AND TRY TO BREAK THAT DOWN TO SAY TODAY, TOMORROW PER HOUR, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT SATISFIED. ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WHEN WE GET A PROGRAM COORDINATOR TO COME IN, THESE ARE SOME THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SOME MORE MOVEMENT ON THE THINGS THAT WE DO, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE CONCENTRATING ON THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE IF WE HAVE NOT MET THE STANDARDS TO THIS POINT, BUT WE'RE STEADY WORKING ON IT. I KNOW THAT WE WORK DILIGENTLY IN WHAT WE DO. COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS OH, YEAH, AND I'VE BEEN UP SINCE 345 TO CATCH A FLIGHT, SO I DIDN'T SEE WEEKLY AT THE TOP. I'VE BEEN UP SINCE 345 THIS MORNING, SO I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WEEKLY LITTER AT THE TOP WHEN I WAS ASKING, WHAT ARE THE TWO WEEKS? SO I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT DOES SAY WEEKLY. THAT'S ON ME. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS. I HEAR EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT I'M NOT HEARING FROM AND IT'S THIS IS NOT YOU ALL EDUCATION. HOW DO YOU EDUCATE THE AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE RESIDENTS BUT IT'S PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH THE CITY WHO ARE PUT IN, WHO ARE JUST DUMPING LITTER. WE KEEP. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE CONTINUE TO BEAT DOWN STAFF OR BADGER THEM ABOUT THE LITTER PICK UP AND FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND THIS AND THAT. BUT YOU'RE NOT SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE WHO COME THROUGH EAST POINT WHO ARE THROWING THE LITTER OUT THE CAR? I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. GETTING OFF THE RAMP OF 166 MEN OF INTELLIGENCE. CLEAN THAT UP CONSTANTLY. IF THEY CLEAN IT UP RIGHT NOW, I GUARANTEE YOU, IF YOU GO THERE TOMORROW, IT'S JUST LIKE THEY NEVER DID IT. AND THAT'S EDUCATION. THAT'S JUST LIKE THE WAKEFIELD PLAZA. IF THEY CLEAN THAT PLAZA UP, THEN PEOPLE ARE. 
          I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE JUST DUMP TRASH OUT OF THEIR CAR IN THE PARKING LOT. IT'S EDUCATION. HOW DO YOU YOU YOU GOTTA EDUCATE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO PICK UP THE LITTER. YOU CAN'T KEEP BADGERING STAFF ABOUT THE LITTER PICK UP. IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE. AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS IT THAT WE WANT THEM TO JUST CLEAN UP ONE AREA FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND FORGET ABOUT THE REST OF THE CITY? YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU GOTTA EDUCATE THE PEOPLE ON HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, WHERE TO PUT LITTER, WHERE TO PUT TRASH AND OUT. YOU. OKAY, LET'S CLEAN OUT. OKAY. LET'S TRY TO GET THROUGH US. OKAY? AND I'LL BE BRIEF. THANK YOU. WHAT HAS THE EFFECT OF THIS INCREASE IN CLEANUP DONE TO OUR BUDGET? AND HAVE YOU BEEN GIVEN ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS BUDGETED? YES, SIR. WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED THE TEN NEW AND THE PROGRAM COORDINATORS. SO WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THAT FUNDING. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND IS THERE A WAY BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID ABOUT OBSERVATION, YOU'VE NOTICED A DIFFERENCE. HOW DO WE BEGIN TO QUANTIFY THAT? WE DO COLLECT TONNAGE BAGS THAT THEY'RE COLLECTING AND EVERYTHING GOES TO OUR WE JUST ESTABLISH AN ACCOUNT WITH THE TRANSFER STATION SO WE CAN HAVE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY OF WHAT'S COMING FROM OUR LITTER PICKUP, SO WE CAN KIND OF TRACK THAT PART ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE PICKING UP. 
          AND HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING US MONTHLY TO DISPOSE OF THE TRASH AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT COSTS HAVE BEEN FALLING ON SANITATION. BUT WE'RE ABSORBING THAT COST WITHIN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT NOW. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SET TIME IN WHICH YOU DO THESE CLEANUPS? BECAUSE IT APPEARS THAT SOME DAYS YOU TOUCH EVERY STREET ON THIS LIST, AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER DAYS THAT YOU DON'T. SO DO YOU HAVE LIKE, ARE YOU SAYING, YOU KNOW, CAMP CREEK AT 830 IN THE MORNING OR 5 P.M, OR DO YOU HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, USUALLY OUR STAFF WILL START OFF IN THE CAMP CREEK AREA ON THOSE DAYS THAT THEY START AND THEN THEY WORK THEIR WAY BACK INTO TOWN BECAUSE LITTER IS BAD OUT THERE. BUT WE 
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HAVE SOME OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LITTER PROBLEMS THAT WE GOT OCCURRING. 
          SOME ARE PATHS LIKE GOING DOWN WASHINGTON ROAD OR WALKING SIDEWALK. WE ALSO TRY TO GO THROUGH AND BLOW THE LEAVES OFF THAT ARE STARTING TO ACCUMULATE. SO WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE THINGS CLEAN BECAUSE THAT'S CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE IT'S LITTERING AND CLUTTERED AS WELL. 
          SO OUR STAFF WILL START OUT IN THE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE AREA AND WORK THEIR WAY, WORK THEIR WAY BACK INTO TOWN. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, TOO, IS BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE TO BREAK FOR LUNCH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO SO FAR OUT TO START BACK OFF. WE'RE TRYING TO DO BE COST EFFECTIVE AND TIME EFFECTIVE. AND WHEN WE SEE LITTER LIKE NORMAN BERRY, IT MIGHT BE ON THERE SEVERAL TIMES, BUT YOU HAVE THE TRUCKS GOING BACK AND FORTH TO NEWELL. AND, AND SO THERE'S STUFF THAT FALLS OFF THE TRUCKS. RIGHT. COMING BACK FORTH THROUGH THAT AREA. SO WE HAVE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT AND AGAIN OUR STAFF COMES IN, YOU KNOW THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THROUGH THE I'VE TOLD THE MANAGER THAT THEY COME BACK INTO ONE SPOT NORMAN BERRY THE ANNEX EVERY DAY BEFORE WE COME IN AND HAVE TO HIT THAT AREA BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AS WELL, GOING THROUGH HEADLAND AND NORMAN BERRY GOING THROUGH OUR CITY, AS WELL AS MAIN STREET, WE HAVE A STAFF THAT HITS MAIN STREET AND EAST POINT STREET, AND HE'S NOT EVEN PART OF THE LITTER. HE'S PART OF OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS STAFF. HE'S A PART OF OUR CLEANING STAFF. HE GOES DOWN MAIN STREET STARTING AT CLEVELAND AVENUE AND GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE AND IT COMES BACK UP CHURCH STREET. WORK IN THAT AREA IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BECAUSE PEOPLE COME FROM THE MARTYR STATION AND THEY THROW SCHEDULES AND ALL KIND OF THINGS OUT INTO THE STREETS AND, AND SO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, HE'S OUT THERE EVERY DAY. AND THAT HE USUALLY DOES THAT EARLY AFTERNOON. WELL, I DO WANT TO ECHO SOMETHING. I THINK THE MAYOR IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN THAT WE MUST BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IT TENDS TO SEEM LIKE THAT SOME OF US ARE IN OPERATIONS AND WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT. AND THE NEXT THING IS, I WOULD LIKE TO CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE. I HAVE SEEN BEEN IN THE CAR AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE THROW LITTER OUT OF THEIR CAR AND YOU BLOW YOUR HORN AT THEM, OR I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS, IS A LITTLE BRAVER THAN I AM SOMETIMES, BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID TO SAY STUFF TO PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID OF BODILY INJURY. AND I'VE SEEN SOMEONE AND THIS WAS IN ATLANTA, MAN, JUST THROW A BOTTLE OUT OF HIS WINDOW WHILE I'M WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND I SAY, HEY, THAT BOTTLE IS GOING TO CUT YOUR TIRE. AND THEN HE DOESN'T CARE. SO I KNOW WHEN THE KID I'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, THEY WOULD CLEAN UP AT 830 IN THE MORNING. BY 930 THERE'S MORE LITTER, SO IT'S JUST A YEOMAN'S JOB. I UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS, BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS ABOUT EDUCATING OUR CUSTOMERS AND EDUCATING THOSE PEOPLE VISITING THE CITY. AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE AS A COUNCIL SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT. HOW DO WE ADD TO THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING? WELL, AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE EDUCATION AND COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE MENTIONED EDUCATION AS WELL. 
          THAT IS A PART OF IT. WHEN I SAY WORKING WITH OUR MARKETING TEAM, THAT IS PART OF THE EDUCATION PART THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN REFERENCE TO, CAN WE AFFORD TO DO BILLBOARDS, HOW WE PUT INFORMATION ON OUR, OUR, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, OUR TELEVISION STATION, HOW WE PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE AND SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE OTHER THAN JUST DON'T LITTER. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, I MENTIONED BEFORE SOME OF THE SIGNS. YOU SEE, THE SIGNS ARE IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH, BUT HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME MORE SLOGAN, TYPE OF SIGNS THAT WE CAN PUT AROUND THAT MAYBE COMING INTO OUR CITY, I'VE LOOKED AND DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH. OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COME INTO THE CITY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SIGNS SAID, WE DON'T LITTER OR, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO A CITY THAT WE MONITOR OUR LITTER, SOMETHING THE SLOGAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH. AND THAT'S PART OF OUR MARK TEAM. I DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT THAT'S PART OF OUR TEAM THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WHEN WE TRY TO DO OUR MARKETING OF IT, WHICH IS GOING TO COVER THE EDUCATIONAL PART, NOT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS. WE'LL START TRYING TO WORK IN PUTTING SOME FLIERS IN THE MAILINGS, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S ACCEPTABLE ABOUT LITTER, WHERE TO TAKE IT TO FOR RESIDENTS, IF YOU HAVE SOME THAT YOU NEED TO DUMP, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH PEOPLE, MAYBE TOSSING SOMETHING OUT IN THEIR TRASH CANS, WHICH OVERFLOWS, WHERE THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST TAKE IT OVER TO THE TRANSFER STATION AND GET RID OF 
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IT. BUT THAT'S ALL A PART OF OUR MARKETING PROGRAM. OF COURSE, SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS AGO, BUT IT IS STILL PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND WE'RE EACH ONE OF THESE STEPS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TO. WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT SUCCESSFULLY. THIS IS A SECOND ROUND. SO I'LL I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS TILL THE END. COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMENTS, HAVE YOU GONE YET? NO, I HAVEN'T GONE OKAY. MY BAD. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. NOT COMING. COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST, I KNOW YOU SAY YOUR STAFF, YOU SAY YOU ONLY HAVE SIX CURRENTLY THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? THE SIX ARE DEDICATED TO LITTER PATROL ONLY. OKAY. THEY THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. 
          THAT IS DAY TO DAY BASIS. SOMETIMES YOU'LL PULL MA'AM. SOMETIMES YOU'LL PULL FROM OTHER. YES WE PULL FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHEN WE WORK ON SATURDAYS AND DOING LITTER PATROLS. SO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS CAN VOLUNTEER. ALRIGHT. SO OUR DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE OPEN POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO FILL TO HELP BRING THAT NUMBER UP? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE WITH THAT TEN, WE HAVE ONE PENDING. OKAY. AND I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT THREE. I THINK MY MANAGER TOLD ME THAT WE HAD THREE THAT MIGHT BE INTERVIEWING, BUT HE HAS NOT TURNED IN THE PAPERWORK YET. 
          JUST KIND OF REVIEWING THOSE APPLICATIONS. BUT WE, WE WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY. SO WE PROBABLY HAVE THREE LEFT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FILL. OKAY. SO THAT TEN IS GOING TO ADD TO THAT STAFF. SIX, MA'AM. THAT TEN WILL ADD TO THE STAFF OF SIX. THE SIX IS PART OF THE TEN OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALLOCATING OKAY. SO TEN WILL BE TOTAL. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FOUR MORE. AND THAT'LL BE YES MA'AM DEDICATED. SO OKAY. BUT AND THEN YOU KNOW AS WE TALK TO FINANCE ABOUT MAYBE CONVERTING THESE POSITIONS TO SOME TYPE OF PERMANENT POSITIONS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO START AGAIN NEXT YEAR TO ADD SOME MORE, AS WE CALL THEM, TEMPORARY PERMANENT. OKAY. JUST SO WE CAN SEE HOW THOSE PROGRAMS WORK. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE SUCH A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON US AS WELL. OKAY. SO FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, WE'RE ASKING A STAFF OF SIX TO CLEAN THE CITY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE EDUCATION PIECE, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT WE CAN DO I THINK LIKE SIGNAGE WOULD BE GOOD. I MEAN, MAYBE SOME CATCHY SLOGAN, BUT DON'T BE MEAN. KEEP EASTPOINT CLEAN. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOME SOME SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT KEEPING IT CLEAN. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD STOP. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL FROM THROWING HIS CHICKEN WING BOX OUT OF THE WINDOW. I MEAN, I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. AND WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER MADE THE STATEMENT, I DID SEE A YOUNG LADY THAT THREW A BOX OF CHICKEN WINGS OUT AND I CALLED IT THE STOP SIGN, AND I GOT IT AND I SAID, HEY, YOU DROPPED THIS. THIS FELL OUT OF YOUR CAR. I MEAN, SHE LOOKED I MEAN, SHE WAS A YOUNG YOU KNOW, A YOUNGER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN HER 20S, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE JUST GET PEOPLE AND THEY JUST THEY JUST THROW TRASH OUT. SO THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST TO EDUCATE PEOPLE. IF WE PUT SIGNAGE AROUND, MAYBE IF PEOPLE SEE IT, THEY'LL KNOW. ANOTHER THING IS COMMUNITY PRIDE. JUST LAST WEEK, ONE OF THE TRASH TRUCKS WAS GOING DOWN THE STREET. A BIG TELEVISION BOX FLEW OUT. I RODE PAST IT. I PICKED IT UP AND I JUST PUT IT OVER TO THE SIDE. BUT HE DID TURN BACK AROUND. THEY SAW IT FLY OFF. HE TURNED BACK AROUND AND HE THANKED ME. IT WAS JUST ONE OF THE GUYS IN OUR SANITATION DEPARTMENT. BUT IT'S JUST COMMUNITY PRIDE. IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. I JUST TOOK IT. I MEAN, IT WAS TOO BIG THAT I COULD PUT IT IN MY CAR, BUT I DID TAKE IT AND PULL IT OVER TO THE SIDE. AND HE DID TURN BACK AROUND. SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING THE JOB. I MEAN, I SEE YOU OUT. I SEE PEOPLE OUT PICKING UP TRASH ALL THE TIME. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THEY CAN GO THROUGH AND CLEAN THE WHOLE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE AT EIGHT, 9:00 IN THE MORNING WHENEVER THOSE TRUCKS RUN THROUGH AND THEY CLEAN. 10:00 I'VE SEEN PEOPLE TAKE THEIR ASHTRAY AND DUMP IT OUT INTO THE PARKING LOT. I MEAN, YOU CAN PUT TRASH CANS ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THE MENTALITY IS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY JUST WEREN'T RAISED A CERTAIN WAY OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE MORE TIMES AND OFTEN HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS IF YOU DO HAVE THE SIGNAGE OUT THERE, MAYBE IF WE CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, MORE TRASH RECEPTACLES OUT, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL USE THEM. A SENSE OF COMMUNITY PRIDE. WE I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND THEY DO COMMUNITY SERVICE, MAYBE IF WE CAN HAVE THEM OUT ON THE STREETS ON THE WEEKENDS, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP TRASH, THAT'S A PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. OR EVEN IF WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION TO GET EXTRA BODIES ON THE STREET JUST PICKING UP THAT TRASH LIKE YOU'LL SEE ON THAT STAUNTON ROAD RIGHT THERE WHEN YOU GET OFF AT 166 WITH THAT STAUNTON AND 166. THAT'S ANOTHER IDEA THAT WE CAN USE. AND ALSO WHEN WE HAVE, THEY DO THE LARGE DUMPING WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE PUTTING MATTRESSES AND CHAIRS. MAYBE WE'LL DO SOMETHING BI MONTHLY, PUTTING DUMPSTERS IN EACH WARD AND JUST HAVE IT WHERE PEOPLE WILL COME, AS OPPOSED TO 
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TAKING IT AND PUTTING IT OUTSIDE IN THE BACK OF WAKEFIELD OR THE FAMILY DOLLAR. IF YOU HAVE THOSE DUMPS THERE AND JUST LET THEM KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE QUARTERLY, WE'LL HAVE DUMPSTERS. SO YOUR BIG TRASH THAT YOU HAVE TAKE IT AND WE CAN WE'LL, THEY CAN COME OUT AND THEY CAN JUST DUMP THOSE ITEMS THERE AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING THEM OUTSIDE OF THESE BUSINESSES, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DOLLAR GENERAL ON WASHINGTON ROAD. THOSE RESIDENTS CALL AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK ABOUT THE TRASH THAT'S COLLECTING THERE. AND I WENT OVER THERE. THE OTHER DAY. SOMEBODY TOOK MATTRESSES, TIRES, ALL OF THAT STUFF. THAT'S THERE. SO WE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER IDEA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FINANCIALLY FOR THE CITY, BUT IT IS A SUGGESTION AND IT MAY DETER PEOPLE JUST AS OPPOSED TO DUMPING OUTSIDE OF THESE BUSINESSES. IF WE HAVE THOSE DUMPSTERS, YOU KNOW, IN IN ALL THE WARDS QUARTERLY THAT WE CAN COME OUT AND DO IT TO FOLLOW UP WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU DID SAY, I AM I, AARON RODGERS AND OUR DEPARTMENT HAD AARON RODGERS AND I HAD TALKED LAST WEEK. SO WE DO HAVE SOME RECEPTACLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT. ADDITIONALLY IN SOME OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREAS, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO START IN THAT AREA AROUND THERE TO PUT SOME MORE RECEPTACLES OUT THERE. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE THEM, SO WE'LL START PUTTING THOSE OUT STRATEGICALLY AROUND THAT DOWNTOWN AREA, STARTING THERE AND START WORKING OUR WAY OUT. AND COMMUNITY SERVICE, WE ARE WITH THE COURTS, OKAY. WE'VE HAD ONE PERSON WHO DID 30 HOURS. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY SINCE SOMEONE CONTACTED US TODAY. BUT HE HAD NO PAPERWORK. SO APPARENTLY HE HADN'T GOTTEN WITH THE COURTS TO COME TO US DIRECTLY. SO I MEAN, THAT'S ALL WE'VE HAD. BUT WE ARE IN IN WORKING WITH THE COURTS AND WITH WITH COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR ANY, ANY FOLKS THAT THEY HAVE JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF MONITORING WHAT WE DO IN THE AREAS EVERY MORNING WE KEPT SEEING TRASH IN FRONT OF THE FILTER PLANT ON ON HEADLAND AND WE YOU KNOW, WE WERE THINKING THAT IT WAS BLOWING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARKING LOT. BUT WHAT WE FOUND THAT THE TRUCKS THAT WERE COMING, THAT WERE PICKING UP THE TRASH AT NIGHT, WERE COMING OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT, AND THAT'S WHY THAT TRASH WAS ENDING UP ON THAT HILL IN FRONT. SO WE CONTACTED WAKEFIELD OR OUR STAFF CONTACTED THEM TO KIND OF ADVISE THEM TO HAVE THE PERSON MAKE SURE THEY COVER THEIR TRUCKS BEFORE THEY PULL IT OUT, BECAUSE WE JUST JUST COULDN'T SEE WHY THE TRASH WAS COMING ACROSS THE STREET ALL THE TIME. AND THEN WE JUST KIND OF START THINKING, WELL, THIS, YOU KNOW, LET'S CHECK THE TRASH TRUCK. AND THEN AT NIGHT TIME OR THE EVENING TIME WHEN THEY'RE PICKING UP, THEY WERE COMING OUT AND SOME OF THAT STUFF WAS FLYING OUT THAT WAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. AS FAR AS ANOTHER THING WITH COMMUNICATIONS, WHEN I MENTIONED TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WHEN I TALKED TO THE REPRESENTATIVE OVER THERE, THE IDEA OF TAKING THE KIDS, THE CHILDREN AND DOING SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THEM, IF NOT ON A POSTER, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WITH PROPER APPROVAL TO TRY TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM WHERE THEY COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, NO LITTERING TYPE OF THING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH WITH THE SCHOOL. AS FAR AS EDUCATION CONCERNS, STARTING THEM YOUNG AND SMALL AND BUILDING THEM UP AS WE GO. WELL THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. I YIELD, MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, DEPUTY CITY CLERK, CAN YOU PULL UP THAT EMAIL? IT'S ON A PDF THAT WAS SHARED. THANK YOU. AND ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THE RESIDENTS OF EAST POINT DESERVE A CLEAN CITY. I'VE CLEANED MY OWN COMMUNITY COMMUNITY A TOTAL OF 15 TIMES BECAUSE THE LITTER IS SO BAD OUT THERE. I'VE LITERALLY JUST KEEP A LITTLE PICKER UPPER IN MY CAR BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THE LITTER. I DON'T, I DON'T, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I COMMEND MAYOR AND COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'VE POURED INTO THIS DEPARTMENT. WE FUND THIS DEPARTMENT. WE'VE GIVEN SUGGESTIONS. I'VE ALSO JUST DONE RESEARCH ON LITTER PICK UP MYSELF AND I BELIEVE I SENT THE EMAIL TO EVERYONE ON COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT HOW THE CITY OF ATHENS, GEORGIA DOES IT, WHERE EVERYONE HAS A TOTAL STAKE IN THE SHARE OF LITTER, PICK UP AND CONTROL. THEY HAVE THAT EDUCATION PIECE IN THERE. THEY ALSO HAVE THE SCHOOL PIECE IN THERE. THEY ALSO DO IT IN ATHEN, WHERE IF YOU SEE SOMEONE LITTERING, YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE AND REPORT THEM TO THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT AT ANY RATE, THREE PEOPLE KEEP THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA CLEAN, THREE PEOPLE A RIGHT OF WAY CREW OF THREE DEDICATED TO LITTER, AND A SUPERVISOR OVER THEM. THE CITY IS DIVIDED INTO THREE LITTER ZONES. EACH RIGHT OF WAY MEMBER HAS THEIR OWN ZONE THEY ARE DEDICATED TO. WITHIN THESE ZONES, THE INDIVIDUAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LITTER PICKUP AND CITY MAINTAINED TRASH RECEPTACLES. THERE IS NO 
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DIFFERENCE IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA. IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT, GEORGIA. HOW ARE THEY KEEPING THAT ENTIRE CITY CLEAN? WITH THREE PEOPLE AND WE ARE CONTINUING IN THIS CYCLE. AND ON THIS HAMSTER WHEEL, I'LL FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL UNDERSTAND ABOUT GOING IN AND DELVING INTO OPERATIONS, BUT IT SAYS HERE SEECLICKFIX IS TYPICALLY UTILIZED BY RESIDENTS FOR DEAD ANIMALS. THEY PICK UP LITTER EVERY DAY. THREE PEOPLE. IT SAYS IT HERE. SO WE VOTED BACK IN MAY FOR A MORE CONCISE APPROACH TO THIS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO STICK TO THE EDUCATION PIECE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. SOMETIMES WHEN I'M TRAVELING TO OTHER AREAS, WHEN YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT ON THE HIGHWAY, YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE HIGHWAY. YOU DON'T EVEN SEE TRASH IN CERTAIN AREAS. ONCE YOU PASS CASCADE ROAD GOING FURTHER AND FURTHER NORTH, THEY'RE NOT BATTLING THIS ISSUE. WHEN YOU GET OFF AT CAMP CREEK, OUR SIGN IS DOWN THE GDOT. I'VE CONTACTED THEM ABOUT THE SIGN. WE HAVE ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE ALONG CAMP CREEK PARKWAY NOW, LIKE WE DID THE MOTION. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE DELIVERABLES? THEY SUPPLEMENT THE RIGHT OF WAY CREW WITH THE SUPERVISOR FROM THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGER OVERSEES AND MANAGES MANAGES THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY. SO IF THREE PEOPLE CAN KEEP THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA CLEAN, THEN WHY CAN'T WE? AND I'LL YIELD BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID THE MAY 13TH MOTION OF WHERE SOMETHING WAS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO US. AND SO THIS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT. I MEAN, NUMEROUS TELEPHONE CALLS. I'M PICKING UP TRASH MYSELF BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A PHONE CALL. SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE MOTION. I THINK THAT WE NEED A CLEAR PLAN. THAT WAS PROMISED TO US ON WE ARE PROVIDED WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION. HE STATED STAFF WOULD BRING THIS ITEM BACK TO THE MAY 13TH, 2024 WORK SESSION. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. SO I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE OUR PART. I JUST THINK THAT NOW IT'S TIME TO PUT IT IN MOTION, AND I'LL SHARE THIS EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY MANAGER IN ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I'LL SAY THIS. 
          ALPHARETTA, IF IT'S THREE PEOPLE IN ALPHARETTA AND SIX HERE, IT'S THE MENTALITY. IT IS THE MENTALITY OF PEOPLE. I TRAVEL COBB COUNTY EVERY SATURDAY LOOKS NICE, BUT IT'S THE MENTALITY IN WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH. I'VE SAID IN THE CAR, MATTER OF FACT, I WAS IN WAKEFIELD SUNDAY. MAN OPENED UP THE DOOR IN CHURCH'S CHICKEN. GUESS WHERE THE BONES AND THE BAG WENT IN THE PARKING LOT. IT'S THE MENTALITY. SO TO COMPARE THAT TO EAST POINT, IT'S THE MENTALITY OF PEOPLE AND THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO EDUCATE. SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT BILLBOARDS UP TO SAY, HEY, PUT LITTER IN ITS PLACE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT TO GET TO WHERE ALPHARETTA ARE, TO GET TO WHERE KENNESAW ARE, BECAUSE I GO THERE EVERY SATURDAY TO GET TO WHERE PONCE DE LEON, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT IT'S THE MENTALITY OF THE PEOPLE. AND UNTIL WE DEAL WITH THE MENTALITY AND THE EDUCATION PIECE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME THING. 
          SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT PARK LANE ELEMENTARY, I SAID THIS THE LAST TIME, WHEN ARE WE WORKING WITH OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS? MAYOR THAT'S WHY I REACHED OUT TO PARKLAND, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO THE PERSONS THAT NEED TO DO THA. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH ME TO WORK WITH THE OTHER ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU ALL EIGHT PRINCIPALS EMAIL ADDRESS. IF YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT TO ME, I'LL BE GLAD TO CONTACT THEM. I JUST WANT TO UTILIZE A TRACK WHERE I'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH SOMEONE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE CAN DO THAT IF THEY PROVIDE THOSE NAMES. SO I THINK SOME OF THEM HAVE CHANGED. BUT AS A PART OF THE JOINT LEARNING COMMITTEE, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL. ALL OF THE PRINCIPALS ARE THERE. THERE'S NO IT'S NOT HARD TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM. I THINK IF WE WERE JUST DEALING WITH LITTER OVER BY PARK LANE, THEN WE JUST FOCUS ON ONE SCHOOL. IF WE'RE GOING TO LAUNCH AN EDUCATION PROGRAM, WE NEED TO BE WORKING 
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WITH ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO START WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FIRST AND THEN GO UP, BUT WE HAVE FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS PLUS RESURGENCE HALL IS A K EIGHT. I THINK RISE CHARTER SCHOOL IS AK8. HAVE THEIR INFORMATION. AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE KIPP SOUTH FULTON IS IT'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL. NO THAT'S A MIDDLE. HE SAYS HERE HE'S TRYING TO START WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. SO I'LL BE SURE TO SHARE. MAKE SURE MISS JESSE HAS THE CONTACT INFORMATION SO WE CAN WORK WITH ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS AGAIN. IF WE FELT LIKE IT WAS ISOLATED JUST OVER BY PARKLAND ELEMENTARY. BUT AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS STUDENTS WHO ATTEND SCHOOLS IN EAST POINT, ALL OF THEM DON'T LIVE IN EAST POINT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SCHOOL REDISTRICTING. 
          SO I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD ONLY BE EDUCATING EAST POINT KIDS, BUT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND SO IN ORDER TO GET TO A BROADER NUMBER OF STUDENTS OR CHILDREN WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE CITY, THEN WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH ALL SCHOOLS. YOU MENTIONED CAMP CREEK. GO BACK TO THE WEEKLY SCHEDULE. YOU SAID CAMP CREEK WAS BEING DONE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BUT ON THE SCHEDULE, ALL IT SAYS IS MONDAY. IT'S MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY. AND SO THERE ARE THREE AREAS CAMP CREEK IS BEING DONE THREE TIMES A WEEK. AND BASED ON THIS SCHEDUL, BOBBY BROWN, NORMAN BERRY, VIRGINIA AVENUE, MAIN STREET AND EAST POINT STREET ARE BEING DONE THREE TIMES A WEEK. THERE'S SOME AREAS ON THIS SCHEDULE THAT ARE ONLY BE IN TOUCH ONCE A WEEK. SO THE TUESDAY AND THURSDAY OPENING UP TOP THOSE STREETS IN THE BOTTOM. THEY'RE ONLY BEING TOUCHED ONCE A WEEK. AND SO I'M NOT SURE I DID HEAR YOU SAY THAT CAMP CREEK WAS FIVE DAYS A WEEK, BUT THIS DOESN'T REFLECT THAT. AND THIS SCHEDULE OF, YOU KNOW, THE WEEKLY SCHEDULE AND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE GOING EACH DAY, ONLY ALLOWS SOME AREAS TO BE TOUCHED ONCE WHILE OTHERS ARE BEING TOUCHED AT LEAST THREE TIMES. THE OTHER THING IS, YOU SAID THE OFF RAMPS ARE BEING CLEANED. HOW OFTEN? AND I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE SAID. I MEAN, LITERALLY YOU COULD PICK UP TRASH AND PEOPLE COME RIGHT BEHIND. I MEAN, WHEN I WAS WORKING OUT EARLY IN THE MORNING, LITERALLY, IT WAS LIKE ONE DAY I WAS LIKE, OH WOW, THIS IS REALLY NICE. I THINK I SAID SOMETHING TO MR. BROWN AT THE TIME LIKE, IT'S REALLY CLEAN. 
          AND THEN MAYBE TWO DAYS LATER I WAS LIKE, WOW, WHERE DID ALL OF THIS COME FROM? RIGHT. SO THEY THERE IS A CONSTANT. A CONSTANT ELEMENT ELEMENT THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL. BUT HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE RAMPS BEING CLEANED. AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. SO THERE'S AN EDUCATION PIECE I AGREE. BUT ALSO ENFORCEMENT I KNOW I SAW I THINK I SAW ONE OF THE SLIDES TALKING ABOUT CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR SOMETHING ABOUT KIND OF CONNECTING TO TECHNOLOGY. IF WE. SO IT'S THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. YOU KEEP IT AS CLEAN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. PEOPLE THINK THAT PEOPLE CARE AND THEN THEY DON'T LITTER. WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING MORE TRASH CANS OUT THROUGHOUT AROUND THE CITY, RIGHT. SO THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A RECEPTACLE FOR PEOPLE TO PUT IT IN. SO THEY'RE NOT JUST DROPPING IT ON THE STREET. 
          RIGHT. BUT THEN THE OTHER PART IS WHEN EDUCATION RECEPTACLES ARE THERE, WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT AS WE AS MUCH AS WE CAN ENFORCEMENT LIKE WRITING, WE LITTERING IS A CODE VIOLATION. 
          SO IT MUST MEAN IT'S ACCOMPANIED WITH FINES. I'VE SEEN THE SIGNS ABOUT FINES. RIGHT. AND I KNOW MR. REEVES THAT'S NOT IN THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE. AND YOU HAD THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS ALL THE TEAMS THAT ARE WORKING ON IT. RIGHT. SO CODE ENFORCEMENT, POLICE, LIKE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ON ENFORCEMENT LIKE HAVING SIGNS AND NOT ENFORCING IT IS LIKE THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH YEAH, WHATEVER. BUT IF WE GET KNOWN FOR ENFORCING LITTER AND AGAIN, HAVING THE RECEPTACLES, IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PUT IT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE PUT THEM ON HIGHWAYS OR CAMP CREEK, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I THOUGHT I SAW IN ONE OF THOSE SLIDES SOMETHING ABOUT CAMERAS OR WORKING WITH I MADE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THAT WAS ABOUT POLICE. I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY GO UP TO THE BLUE SQUARES. YEAH. IT WAS WE HAD WE'VE BEEN I, I'VE TALKED TO CHIEF. YEAH. I'VE TALKED TO FOR CAMERA TRACKING. YEAH I'VE TALKED TO CHIEF. YOU CAN. AND ONCE HE GETS EVERYTHING UP AND GOING WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH HIM WITH THE CAMERA SYSTEM, WITH HIS FLOCK CAMERAS TO MAINLY IN THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE 
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BEING DUMPING AT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE DUMPS IN A CERTAIN AREA, WE CAN KIND OF TRACK WITH THE CAMERA, GET WITH HIM AND TRACK WHERE THOSE CAMERAS ARE IN THE AREA TO KIND OF TRACK WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE BEEN, OR IF THEY WENT BY WITH CELL PHONE, AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE COMING BACK, THEY DON'T. THEY'RE EMPTY. SO WE CAN KIND OF CHALLENGE THEM TRACKING DOWN THE DUMPING. AND I HATE TO SAY IT THIS WAY, I WAS. MARGARET DEBERRY, WHO'S NOW RETIRED. SHE AND I WERE IN CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, HOW WE CAN POTENTIALLY ENFORCE, OF COURSE, WITH THEM, MAINLY IT WOULD BE THE DUMPING, THE ILLEGAL DUMPING, BECAUSE THEY CAN POTENTIALLY GO IN THERE AND FIND SOME THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE. LITTER IS KIND OF A IT'S KIND OF AN OPEN KIND OF THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN ON AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT IS CONCERNED, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THOSE PEOPLE WHO JUST GENERALLY LITTER DRIVING DOWN THE STREET OR SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT SOMEWHERE OR SITTING AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT. THEN IF WE HAVE CAMERAS OVER THERE, WE CAN SEE, MAYBE SEE THOSE PEOPLE DUMPING, GET TAGS AND INFORMATION ON THAT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH. YOU ALSO SEE EAST POINT POWER. I'VE GOTTEN WITH EJ, WHO'S THE DIVISION OF TREE DIVISION, AND HE'S GOING TO BE CUTTING BACK FOLIAGE FROM AREAS THAT HAVE OVERGROWN WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING AND DUMPING, WHERE THEY CAN HIDE AT. SO HE'S GOING TO BE TAKING HIS TEAM DOWN THROUGH THOSE AREAS AND START CLEANING THAT AREAS UP SO IT CAN BE MORE WIDE OPEN TO SEE IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE DUMPING SO THEY WON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO HIDE IF THERE'S A PROBLEM. AND THEN ALSO WITH THE OVERGROWTH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, NOT TAKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE WINDOW BROKEN WINDOW. IF THEY SEE TREES OVERGROWN, THEY FEEL, HEY, THIS IS A PLACE THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY LOCATIONS LIKE THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS HAD BROUGHT UP THE CUMBERLAND AREA IN POMONA, WHICH IS IN A WOODED AREA, BUT PEOPLE WERE DUMPING THERE AT SOME POINT. WE HAD SIGNAGE. WE PUT UP SOME MORE FENCING AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. SO I THINK THAT AT THAT AREA WITH THE CAMERA DOWN THERE HAS BEEN A DETERRENT THAT CHIEF HAS PUT DOWN THERE. SO THAT KIND OF PROCESS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT. 
          PEOPLE GETTING IN THEIR POCKETS. YES, MA'AM. WE'LL GET OUT ON THE RADAR ABOUT IT. WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, YOU HAD THIS 30, 60 DAY NUMBER THREE. DO YOU WANT IT TO GO TO A FUTURE AGENDA? SURE. WHAT? WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE? JANUARY, FEBRUARY? JANUARY. OKAY. JANUARY IS OKAY. OKAY. JANUARY WORK SESSION, PLEASE. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE BRINGING DATA AND INFORMATION UPDATES AROUND WHAT'S HAPPENING. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, YOU HAD ITEM NUMBER 11 OF LEAF VACUUM PICK UP SCHEDULE. I SAW THEY HAD PULLED THAT UP ON THE SCREEN. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT TO WRAP THAT ONE UP. YES. AND MY QUESTION THE LEAF VACUUM. I SEE THIS COLLECTION PROGRAM. BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS IN THE PAST I DID ASK STAFF HOW THIS WAS DONE IN THE PAST BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW RESIDENTS THAT HAVE COLLECTED THEIR LEAVES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY THIS WAS CHANGED. AND BECAUSE AT ONE POINT WASN'T SAYING I'M SORRY. INTERIM CITY MANAGER. AT ONE POINT, THE LEAVES WERE BEING PICKED UP BY THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT. AM I CORRECT IN THAT? YES, I WAS LIVING IN THE CITY HERE. THEN. SO AT ONE POINT IT SAYS LEAVES ARE NOW KEPT IN THERE, PICKED UP BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT 48 HOURS. I GUESS MY CONCERN IS I HAVE SOMEONE, A COUPLE OF SENIOR RESIDENTS AND A VISUALLY IMPAIRED PERSON THAT HAS CONTACTED ME IN REGARDS TO LEAF PICKUP. SHE DOES NOT USE THE PHONE OR EMAIL BECAUSE OF HER VISION. BUT I GUESS WHAT CHANGE FROM SANITATION? PICKING UP THE LEAVES FROM A RESIDENT BAGGING THEIR OWN LEAVES AND PICKING THEM. UP TO NOW WE HAVE TO CALL PUBLIC WORKS TO HAVE THE LEAVES PICKED UP. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO JEFF TO THE CURB. SOLID WASTE WILL COLLECT LEAVES THAT HAVE IN PLACE. OKAY, SO THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT DOES PICK THEM UP AS WELL. THE THIRD BULLET WAS JUST POINTED OUT IF THEY ARE BAGGED AT THE CURB. YES, MA'AM. SO IT'S A DUAL WORKING ARRANGEMENT. THEN PEOPLE CAN CALL IN AND SOLID WASTE WILL PICK THEM UP. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DOCTOR MARTIN, IF THEY PUT THEIR BAGS OUT, SOLID WASTE PICKS UP THEIR BAGS ON THEIR SANITATION COLLECTION DAY OR DURING THEIR SCHEDULE. WHERE THEY GO ON FRIDAY. SO ONE OF THOSE TWO DAYS A WEEK, THEY WILL PICK UP BAGS OR CONTAINERIZED LEAVES. OUR SCHEDULE IS WHEN YOU SEE THE 4 TO 8 HOURS. OUR SCHEDULE IS TO PICK UP, HAVE 
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RESIDENTS PUT THEIR LEAVES OUT ON THE SANITATION COLLECTION DA. IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER FOR THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW THEN THE PROCESS WE TRY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF MAYBE CALLING OR PUTTING A REQUEST IN. SO WE MADE IT SIMPLER FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND THEN WE SAY WITHIN 48 HOUR PERIOD OF TIME, WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE LEAVES PICKED UP AND IF THEY'RE NOT, YOU CAN GIVE US A CALL. WE'VE HAD RESIDENTS CALL US AND ASK, ASK US ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. SOME IN PRETTY MUCH IN ALL THE WARDS I'VE TALKED TO, THEY CALL MY NUMBER DIRECTLY AND I GIVE THEM INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. THE FLIER IS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR SOME TIME AND THEN AGAIN WE HAVE POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT I WAS INFORMED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER THAT IT MIGHT HAVE DROPPED DOWN IN A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER STUFF, SO WE HAD TO REPOST IT LAST WEEK SO RESIDENTS CAN SEE IT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE. WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH TALKING ABOUT THAT PROGRAM. WE START OFF WITH SOME LIMITED TRUCKS AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE HAD FOUR TRUCKS THAT WE HAD IN MAINTENANCE AND A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. PIECE OF EQUIPMENT SHOULD BE COMING OUT. WE HAD TWO TRUCKS THAT WE STARTED WITH AND ANOTHER ONE SHOULD BE COMING OUT WITHIN THE WEEK. WE'VE GOTTEN WITH FINANCE HAS APPROVED US TO PURCHASE, WHICH YOU SAW ON THE PROGRAM TONIGHT. FOUR NEW TRUCK, TWO OF THE LARGE ONES THAT YOU SEE AND TWO SMALLER SIZE. THE LARGE ONES REQUIRE A CDL DRIVER. THE SMALLER ONES THAT WE'RE GETTING WILL BE KIND OF GO DOWN SOME OF THE STREETS THAT WE HAVE. THE SMALLER STREETS, SO THEY CAN GET DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE. THOSE CAN BE DRIVEN BY ANYONE WHO HAS A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE. SO THOSE TRUCKS, WE HAVEN'T BEEN INFORMED WHEN THEY MIGHT BE COMING IN. WE MIGHT HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM NEXT MONTH, OR THEY MIGHT ALL COME IN NEXT YEAR. WILL WE BE PUTTING IN THE BUDGET TO ORDER SOME SOME MORE TRUCKS COME NEXT YEAR. THIS PROGRAM IS CONTINUING TO GO. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR TRUCKS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE RESIDENTS PUT THEM OUT ALL THE TIME NOW, BUT EACH YEAR WE SEE THAT INCREASING. IT'S A PROGRAM THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS LIKE, SO WE WANT TO TRY TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. BUT IF THERE IN ANY CASE, WE HAVE PEOPLE REQUESTED ON SEECLICKFIX, WE GIVE THEM A RESPONSE. TRUCK SHOULD BE OUT THERE THAT SAME DAY. IF NOT, WE GET THEM THE NEXT DAY. WE PROVIDE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY CAN SEND IN. IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PICKED UP IN THAT 48 HOURS, OR IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PICKED UP, THEIR DAY OF SANITATION, WE HAVE EMAILS THEY CAN SEND THEM TO TELEPHONE NUMBERS. THEY CAN CALL IF ANY. ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH MAYBE CONTACTING. 
          JUST SEND THE INFORMATION TO OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SHE'S VERY GOOD AT GETTING STUFF TO U, AND WE'LL GET OUT THERE AND ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES PRETTY MUCH IMMEDIATELY, IF NOT THE NEXT DAY. WHEN IS THE LEAF PICKUP GOING TO OCCUR FOR THE CITY? IT STARTED, I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS FOR TRUCKS IN IN IN, IN SERVICE OR WE STARTED THE PROGRAM LAST WEEK. IT'LL RUN TILL MARCH THE SEVENTH. LAST MONDAY. NO, I'M SAYING THE LEAVES ON THE STREET, NOT THE LEAF VACUUM PICKUP. WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? THE LEAVES ON THE LEAVES. THE LEAVES THAT ARE FALLING FROM THE TREES. 
          OH, JUST. OH, SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT TREE LEAVES THAT ARE NOT RAKED OUT ON THE YARDS. NOT FROM THE YARDS, BUT OUR STREETS THAT ARE NOT RAKED OUT, THAT ARE FALLING FROM THE TREES GENERALLY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WHEN IS THAT GOING TO OCCUR? WELL, WE TRY TO WORK THAT IN ONCE WE GET OUR TRUCKS IN OPERATION. ONE OF OUR THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS WORK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND THEN MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND THEN ON FRIDAY, BECAUSE SANITATION ONLY COLLECTS FROM RESIDENTS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WE CAN STAY ON PACE WITH THAT SCHEDULE. THEN ON FRIDAY, WE'LL HAVE A TRUCK GOING AROUND GETTING LEAVES ON A CURVED LINE. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. MIGRATED LEAVES? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS SO RESIDENTS HAVE TWO OPTIONS. THEY CAN BAG THE LEAVES UP AND PUT IT OUT WITH SANITATION. OR THEY COULD CALL THIS NUMBER AND HAVE SOMEONE COME AND PICK THEM UP WITHIN 48 HOURS. NO, MA'AM. THEY JUST PUT THEM OUT ON THEIR SANITATION COLLECTION DAY, AND WE YEAH, WE CAN GET WE'LL GET. THAT'S OUR SCHEDULE. IF WE DON'T GET THEM, WE'LL BE THERE WITHIN 48 HOURS. IF WE HAVEN'T, THEN THEY CAN GIVE US A CALL. OKAY. SO YOU'RE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT, IS THE QUESTION. YEAH. BECAUSE IT COMES OUT ON OKAY. BUT THEY CAN ALSO CALL IT'S TWO OPTIONS TO CALL AND PICK UP ON SANITATION DAY OKAY. YES OKAY. 
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. QUICK QUESTION I BLOWING THE LEAVES. DO THEY GO ON THE STREET OR JUST AT THE CURB LINE BECAUSE WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY OUT OF THE STREETS, OUT OF THE STREETS. ALSO, THERE'S SOME FOLKS WHO JUST DON'T HAVE AN AREA. SOMETIMES THEY PUT THEM ON THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS IMPEDING THE SIDEWALK. WE TRY TO KEEP THEM RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK IF POSSIBLE. IF POSSIBLE. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE IT. WE SET THE CUR. YES. OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T WANT MELISSA GETTING MAD AT ME. MIGRATING LEAVES. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CLEAR ON THAT. SO FOR EVERYONE THAT'S LISTENING. YES, MA'AM. AND VIEWING IN, IT'S ON THE SIDEWALK BUT NOT IN THE STREET. AND DEFINITELY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS AND WE I'VE TOLD SOME RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CALLED ME IF THE LEAVES ARE ON THE STREETS, WE'LL COLLECT THEM AT ONE TIME AND GIVE THEM SOME TYPE OF NOTIFICATION THAT THEY CAN'T PUT THEM OUT THERE. THE NEXT TIME WE WON'T PICK THEM UP AND THEN WE'LL CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT AND HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT COME DO THEIR ISSUE OF VIOLATION. OKAY. CLEAR AS MUD. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THIS WAS A QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU LAST WEEK TO MISS JESSIE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THE BAGGING THE LEAVES. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO. RESIDENTS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE PLASTIC BAGS. CORRECT. AND THAT INFORMATION IS NOT HERE. IT OCCURRED TO ME WHEN I SAW THIS LAST WEEK, I SEE THAT MISTAKE ALL THE TIME. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT IF THAT IS INDEED CORRECT, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT IS, WE PROBABLY NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW BECAUSE I SEE THAT A LOT. YES, SIR. AND SO I THINK IF WE DO ADDITIONAL EDUCATION OR AWARENESS, IF WE CAN MAKE THAT DISTINCTION SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW. YES, SIR. ALSO WITH THE WITH THE BAGGING, AS YOU SEE ON THE PICTURE THERE, IF FOLKS WOULD, RESIDENTS WOULD WANT TO PUT THEM IN LIKE A CONTAINER, LIKE THAT. SANITATION PICKS IT UP, DUMPS IT AND KEEPS ON GOING. SOMETIMES THEY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WOULD RATHER EVEN HAVE THEM LIKE THAT THAN HAVE TO COLLECT ALL BAGS. BUT IF THEY PROVIDE THEM LIKE THAT, THEY'LL PICK THEM UP, EMPTY THEM, AND DUMP THEM. IF RESIDENTS THAT KEEPS RESIDENTS FROM HAVING TO BUY BAGS ALL THE TIME AND THEY CAN RECYCLE THOSE DUMPSTERS. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT'S I DON'T I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE PUT IT IN HERE, BUT THE REASON WHY THE LEAF VACUUM PROGRAM WENT AWAY IS BECAUSE WE HAD A CONSENT DECREE FROM THE EPA, BECAUSE THE LEAVES WERE GETTING INTO OUR STORMWATER DRAIN, CAUSING HUGE PROBLEMS. SO IF YOU HAVE A STORMWATER DRAIN IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE AT YOUR CURB, I WOULD SUGGEST, I MEAN, BECAUSE EVEN IF THEY PUT THEM THERE AND WE DON'T COME LIKE WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS, THAT WHOLE PILE COULD BE DOWN IN THE DRAIN, RIGHT? SO BAGGING AND CONTAINERIZING IS PREFERRED. SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THESE BAGS AND THOSE CONTAINERS AND I SEE THE PICTURES, BUT MAYBE IF IT'S SCROLL UP ON THE PROHIBITED METHODS. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT THIS FIRST PICTURE ON ALLOWABLE IF THAT WAS A STORMWATER DRAIN IN FRONT OF THERE AND YOU DON'T PICK THOSE LEAVES UP THE SAME DAY AND YOU COME IN 48 HOURS, THEY'RE PROBABLY IN THE DRAIN, RIGHT? AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO CONSENT DECREE DAYS AND HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR STORMWATER DRAINS. SO. AS WE PROVIDE MORE COMMUNICATION, I'LL SAY ABOUT THE PROGRAM, LIKE MAYBE WE SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC. LIKE I CAN SEE HOW THAT MAY BE OKAY, BUT THAT ASSUMES THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE WINDS BLOWING UNTIL IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT'S DOWN IN THE THIRD PICTURE. I THINK THE BAGS OR THE CAN IS ACTUALLY PREFERRED BECAUSE THAT WILL ENSURE NOTHING GETS IN OUR STORMWATER DRAIN OR THAT THING. 
          LEAVES AREN'T ALL OVER THE STREET LIKE IN YOUR PROHIBITED METHODS. SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT. I JUST KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO BE BACK AND HAVE A STORMWATER DRAIN ISSUE BECAUSE WE BROUGHT BACK THE LEAF VACUUM PROGRAM BECAUSE RESIDENTS REALLY ENJOY APPRECIATED IT. THEY WANTED TO COME BACK, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T PUT US BACK IN THE POSITION THAT WE WERE BEFORE. AND I THINK THESE PICTURES ARE GOOD. BUT IF WE ARE SPECIFICALLY SAYING DO THE SECOND PICTURE OR THE THIRD PICTURE, THEN WE NEED TO SAY THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE FIRST PICTURE COULD POTENTIALLY GET US IN TROUBLE IF THERE'S A STORMWATER DRAIN, OR IT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE THE ONES AT THE BOTTOM, IF WE DON'T MAKE IT BY FOR WHATEVER REASON, IF A 
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TRUCK IS DOWN OR IF SOMETHING HAPPENS RIGHT THEN, THEN WE GET THE CALLS ABOUT LEAVES ALL OVER THE STREETS AND WE HAVEN'T COME BY. BUT IT COULD BE BECAUSE PEOPLE, IF PEOPLE ARE BRINGING THEM OUT TO THE CURB THIS WAY, BLOWING THEM TO THE CURB IN THIS WAY. WE CAN'T GET AROUND THE CITY EVERY DAY TO GET THESE. SO, MADAM MAYOR, I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT IT HAS TO BE THEY HAVE TO BE IN BAGS OR IN A CONTAINER. SO THAT'S THE CASE. WE PROBABLY NEED TO UPDATE THIS FLIER. YES, MA'AM. AND WHERE IT SAYS CONTAINERIZED WE COULD SAY SEE EXAMPLES OR SEE PHOTOS BELOW OR SOMETHING. OR SPECIFICALLY SAY WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS AS IT RELATES TO THAT. SO IF THE ORDINANCE PROHIBITS PLASTIC BAGS AND MIGHT WE USE THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE AT THE TOP AND THEN SEE BELOW FOR EXAMPLES OR SOMETHING. BUT THAT'S JUST THE ONLY CONCERN. THE LEAF VACUUM PROGRAM I KNOW PEOPLE LOVE IT, BUT EVERY TIME I HEAR IT START, EVERY TIME I SEE THE COMMUNICATION THAT IS STARTING, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE BACK IN THAT POSITION. MR. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS DEFINITELY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DISCUSS IS POTENTIALLY COMING UP WITH A DUMPSTER MIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE LARGER OR SAME SIZE AS A CURRENT HERBIE KIRBY'S AND HAVING THE SIDE ARM TRUCKS COME THROUGH, WHICH WILL BE A FASTER PACE THAT CAN GO DOWN THE STREET, GRAB THE DUMPSTER AND PUT IT INSIDE THE DUMP TRUCK, AS WELL AS TWIGS AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE PUT OUT AS WELL. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A PROCESS THAT WE CAN USE JUST TO ADD TO OUR LEAF BACKING PROGRAM. HAVING SOME SIDE ARM TRUCKS OR REAR LOADER TYPE TRUCKS WHERE THEY JUST GRAB A FOLKS PUT THEIR LEAVES IN THE DUMPSTER BECAUSE EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LEAVES. SOME PEOPLE, WE HAVE VERY SMALL PILES. SOMETIMES WE GET THE LARGER PILES, WHICH TAKES ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 7 MINUTES TO COLLECT THEM BASED ON RAKING THEM OUT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT PROVIDING DUMPSTERS AS WELL, SO WE CAN MAYBE. YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXTRA TRASH CANS YOU CAN BUY IT THROUGH SANITATION. SO MAYBE IF WE DO IT AND WE LET PEOPLE I MEAN THEY CAN GO BUY THEIR OWN. BUT IF THEY PURCHASE FROM US IT'S GOING TO EAT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THE RIGHT KIND. 
          RIGHT. AND THEN TWO, IT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER ON PEOPLE TO JUST SAY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO BUY A WHOLE LOT OF BAGS, I'LL JUST GET THIS CAN I MEAN, THE REGULAR TRASH CANS ARE LIKE $3 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ADD IT TO YOUR BILL. IF YOU GET AN EXTRA ONE. SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY I MEAN, IT'S GETTING KIND OF BAD RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT, BUT THAT COULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD USE, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2, HOWEVER MANY THEY CHOSE. BUT COUNCILMAN MARK ROGERS, DO YOU WANT THIS ITEM TO COME BACK? WHAT DO YOU SAY? I THINK IF WE COULD HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT LAST SOLUTION FOR THE LEAF VACUUM, LIKE THE CONTAINERIZING AND EVEN UPDATING THE INFORMATION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE SOONER WE CATCH THIS OR PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH INFORMATION, THE LESS LIKELY IT IS THAT WE'LL HAVE LEAVES IN THE STORM DRAIN TOO. HONESTLY, COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD, I WOULD TRY TO BRING SOME BACK TO YOU AS YOU WHATEVER YOU DECIDE. BUT I THINK THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO PURCHASE SOME MORE TRUCKS FOR, FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR, THAT MAYBE WE CAN TRY TO PUT THOSE INTO THAT BUDGET LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET. 
          NO, NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TRUCKS. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT TRASH CANS. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. NO NO NO NO NO NO OKAY OKAY. I'M SAYING YOU'RE SAYING JUST THE CONTAINERS THEMSELVES. YES, MA'AM. YOU ALL ARE SAYING THAT THE SANITATION TRUCKS WILL PICK UP THE BAGS ON SANITATION DAY. 
          IF THEY HAVE THE WHAT LOOKS LIKE A TRASH CAN ON THIS PICTURE? YES, MA'AM. THEY WILL DUMP THAT ON SANITATION DAY TWO. YES, MA'AM. EITHER PEOPLE ARE BUYING THOSE OR THEY'RE USING ONE OF THEIR SANITATION CANS FOR THIS, OR WE AND OR WE CAN ALLOW THEM TO PURCHASE. RIGHT. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE. AND HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THAT OPTION SOONER SO THAT WE LIMIT AS MORE AND MORE LEAVES FALL RIGHT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS? AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT PART HAS TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, REVISING OR UPDATING OR SHARING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I SAY IT THAT WAY, SHARE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM BEING MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES FOR CONTAINERIZING GIVING EXAMPLES OF THOSE PICTURES AT THE BOTTOM, AND THEN CREATING AN OPTION IF 
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PEOPLE WANT TO PURCHASE THE CANS FROM US, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING NOT GETTING THEM ON THE STREET. YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHTY. SO I THINK OPERATIONS IS GOING TO HANDLE IT. THEY'LL SEND US UPDATED COMMUNICATION ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. THE SUGGESTION, THE IDEAS WE'VE SHARED AND HOW THEY HAVE INCORPORATED THAT INTO CONTINUE OR ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM IN A WAY THAT MINIMIZES LEAVES IN THE STORM DRAIN AND PREVENTS US FROM GOING BACKWARDS TO A CONSENT DECREE. OKAY, BECAUSE I'VE HAD THE APPLICANTS WAITING FOR QUITE SOME TIME INSTEAD OF GOING TO UPDATE ON POLICING. WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE QUICK THING IF WE CAN ALSO JUST LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW TO NOT PUT STICKS AND STUFF IN THE LEAVES IN THE PILES, BECAUSE THAT TEND TO CLOG UP THE TRUCK AND TEAR IT UP. AND THAT'S SOME INFORMATION. 
          ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FREHLEY'S INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT THAT. WE'LL TRY TO WORK ON GETTING THAT INTO THE MAILINGS. SO TO GET IT OUT A LITTLE QUICKER, OKAY. AND I'LL, I'LL ACTUALLY WAIT TO SEND OUT MY COMMUNICATION UNTIL YOU ALL HAVE UPDATED IT. OKAY. BECAUSE. 
          YES MA'AM. WE'LL, WE'LL I'LL GET ON TOP OF THAT. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. WHAT DID I JUST SAY? 29. 
          [IV.29. Ordinance Granting a Use Permit for an Habitable Accessory Structure Zoning Petition 2024U001-01 Located at 1400 Elizabeth Lane]
MISS JESSIE, MADAM MAYOR. YES, I AM CALLING ON KIM SMITH AND STAFF TO COME UP FOR THIS ITEM. 
          THANK YOU. SO. JUST SORRY. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL, KIMBERLY SMITH. 
          PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM. CASE NUMBER 20242-001-01 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 14 ELIZABETH LANE. THE CASE TYPE IS A USE PERMIT FOR A HOUSEHOLD ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THE APPLICANT IS SHAUNTAY DANIEL. THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS R1 A, WHICH IS OUR URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE REQUEST IS TO CONSTRUCT A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH THE SECTION TEN DASH 2130. THE CURRENT ZONING AS STATED IS R1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS TRADITIONAL TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE PERMITTED IN R1. A IS A TYPICAL ZONING IN THIS TYPE OF USE. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH ONE CONDITION TO ADHERE TO ALL STATE, CITY, AND INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODES, AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. ALL RIGHT, 1400 ELIZABETH LANE APPLICANTS. YOU CAN COME FORWARD. SO TONIGHT IS OUR WORK SESSION WHERE WE JUST HAVE DISCUSSION AND STAFF PRESENTS INFORMATION TO US AHEAD OF THE MEETING. THEY SHARE THIS DATE WITH YOU IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH US, OR IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO US THAT MAYBE THEY DON'T SHARE, THAT YOU WANT US TO KNOW. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND I THINK STAFF AS WELL ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SO YOU'RE A THIRD OF THE WAY THERE. THE LAST STEP IS FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISION. AND SO TONIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE THEY'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THE SIZE OF THE ACCESSIBLE HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH IS 50% OR LESS. AND SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? THEY ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SEE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. SO THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING AS WELL. BUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS? ON MONDAY WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT OR PROVIDE ANY COMMENT THAT THEY LIKE. YOU CAN SPEAK DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL, AND THEN AFTER THAT, COUNCIL MAY TAKE ACTION, PRESS THAT THE BUTTON ON THE MIC FOR ME. THERE YOU GO. SORRY ABOUT 
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THAT. NO WORRIES. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP WITH I DID PRESENT THE PRESENTATION ABOUT FIVE TIMES. SO IT'S KIND OF REDUNDANT. WHAT'S THE WORK THEY'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SO YOU MUST YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB RIGHT. SO I'M LIKE I THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT QUITE A FEW TIMES. BUT I AM AWARE OF ALL OF THE BUILDING CODES. I'M AWARE THAT IT IS 50% OF MY PRIMARY HOME. IT HAS TO BE SIX FEET AWAY FROM THE SURROUNDING HOMES AROUND ME, MY LEFT, RIGHT AND MY NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME. I'VE ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND SURROUNDING AREAS, SO THE ONE ACROSS FROM ME, THE ONE BESIDE ME, THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME, ALL OF THEM ARE IN IN APPROVAL OR SUPPORTIVE WITH ME DOING THIS AS WELL. SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE USES FOR IS BASICALLY FOR MY DAUGHTER. SHE'S IN HIGH SCHOOL THIS YEAR, SO SHE'S GRADUATING AND WANTS TO ATTEND GEORGIA SOUTHERN OR EITHER GEORGIA STATE. WE'RE HOPING GEORGIA STATE SO SHE CAN STAY HERE WITH ME AND HOPEFULLY OBTAIN THAT THAT THE TINY HOME OR THE INHABITABLE HOME BEHIND OUR PRIMARY HOME. AND I DO LOOK FORWARD TO MY GRANDMOTHER'S GETTING ELDERLY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE CARETAKERS, BUT THEY KIND OF WANT THEIR OWN SPACE. WELL, MY GRANDMOTHER DOE, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT. SO OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NO, NO, NO OTHER INFORMATION TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE NAME. AGAIN. SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. DANIEL. YES, DANIEL. SO YEAH, MY DAUGHTER WILL BE GOING TO COLLEGE IN A FEW YEARS AS WELL. AND MY HUSBAND AND I WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO STAY CLOSE TO. 
          BUT YES. YEAH, SO I UNDERSTAND. YES. AND YOU'RE. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. SO AGAIN MONDAY WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS OR GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THEY'LL MAKE A DECISION AFTER THAT. THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. AND SO THEY COME AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS OKAY. AND THEN YOU'LL KNOW ON MONDAY, OKAY. 
          WHETHER OR NOT WHAT COUNCIL'S DECISION IS OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. YOU'RE ALMOST THERE. OKAY. 
          YOU GUYS GET A GOOD NIGHT REST. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AGENDA. MADAM CITY 
          [IV.30. Ordinance Granting an Use Permit for an Habitable Accessory Structure Zoning Petition P2024U-001-08 Located at 2543 Hogan Road]
CLERK, DEPUTY CITY CLERK, 30. THE NEXT PROJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2543 HOGAN ROAD. 
          APPLICATION CASE NUMBER P2024U-001, DASH ZERO EIGHT. THIS IS ALSO A USE PERMIT FOR A HAVE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THE APPLICANT IS BEING ON ROUTE. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R1, A AND IT IS A USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO SECTION TEN DASH 2130, THE CURRENT ZONING. THE CURRENT ZONING IS ACTUALLY RESIDENTIAL LIMITED RL. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS OUR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL ALSO PROVIDES FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AS WELL. OKAY, WHAT'S THE APPLICANT'S NAME? YOU CAN COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU? ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION. STAFF AND PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL? YES. SO I'VE BEEN IN PLENTY OF MEETINGS WITH MISS SHANTI, SO. OKAY, SO YOU ALL HAVE BECOME BUDDIES. SO YOU ALL ARE A LITTLE BIT. I'VE SAT IN AND HEARD HER SESSIONS, SO I KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. OKAY. YOU'RE TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THERE. SO TONIGHT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S WHEN STAFF PRESENTS THIS TO US AND SHARE THEIR RECOMMENDATION, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS MAY OR MAY NOT COME UP. I DON'T SEE ANYONE TAPPED IN FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. AND SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US AT THIS TIME, YOU CAN. AND THEN IF NOT, IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA ON MONDAY AT THE TOP AFTER PRESENTATIONS AND COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION. YOU'LL KNOW THEIR DECISION THEN. MOST LIKELY. I SIMPLY WANT TO ADD THAT WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IN 2021. WE DID AN EXTENSIVE RENOVATION OF IT. THIS IS OUR FIRST PROPERTY FOR OURSELVES. WE DID SOME RENTAL INVESTMENTS BACK IN TEXAS, AND WE REALLY WANTED 
          [01:40:02]
TO SET ROOTS HERE IN EAST POINT. SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT ALL THE CONVERSATION I HEARD ABOUT CLEANING AND LITTER AND ALL THAT. THAT MAKES ME VERY HAPPY. WE OUR PROPERTY IS ON AN ACRE AND A HALF IN WARD C, AND SO THIS STRUCTURE IS TOWARDS THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S NOT NEAR ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS. THEY ALL HAVE FAIRLY LARGE LOTS. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE PEOPLE COME AND VISIT US, BUT NOT WANT TO BE TOO COMFORTABLE IN OUR REGULAR HOUSE. AND SO I'M THE LAST OF SEVEN. AND SO WE WANT WHEN WE HAVE GUESTS OVER, THAT THEY CAN BE COMFORTABLE. 
          AND SO THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO ONLY ABOUT 550FT■!S. IT'S NOT A LARGE STRUCTURE. AND WE KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES FOR RENOVATIONS. AND PERMITS AND EVERYTHING. JUST FROM OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY, WITH OUR FIRST RENOVATION ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? RUTH BIENEMY. RUTH. RUTH BIENEMY. BIENEMY. YES. OKAY. AND SIR NATALIE MOORE. NEFTALI. NEFTALI. OKAY. NEFTALI. WE BOTH HAVE VERY BIBLICAL NAMES. VERY. 
          AND PEOPLE MISPRONOUNCE MY NAME. SO I ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE SURE I SAY PEOPLE'S NAMES. RIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND WE WILL SEE YOU ON MONDAY IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME BACK. BUT WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN COUNCIL WILL MAKE A 
          [IV.31. P2024RZ-004-08 Rezoning Request for Property Located at 2447 McAlpin Terrace from R-L District to R-2 District (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED)]
DECISION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. HAVE A GREAT EVENING AGENDA. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND 31, THE APPLICANT FOR 2928 PALM DRIVE. HERE. PALM DRIVE. KNOW YOU ALL ARE 2447 MCCASLIN. OKAY, WE'RE GETTING READY TO ADDRESS YOURS, MISS SMITH. OH 32 YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT ON THE AGENDA. IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE LOCATED AT 2447 MCALPIN TERRACE PROPERTY PROJECT NUMBER TWO, P 202 FOUR HOURS. DASH 004-08. THE APPLICANT IS SIOBHAN CHARMAINE. 
          THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RL. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL LIMITED TO R-2 RESIDENTIAL TO REBUILD A LEGAL, NONCONFORMING PROPERTY THAT WAS DAMAGED BY FIRE BEYOND THE 60%. AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL LIMITED. CURRENTLY, I WANT TO NOTATE IN REFERENCE TO THIS. THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IS ACTUALLY ZONED R-2. IT WAS REZONED R-2 IN 2011. COUNCIL APPROVED IT AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE NOTATIONS, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, ZONINGS IS R-2, RL AND C-2 STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REZONING. AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXISTING PROPERTY THAT IS A DUPLEX IN NATURE. IT BURNED WITH THE FIRE AND SO THE INTENT IS FOR THEM TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REBUILD IT BACK TO A DUPLEX, AS IT WAS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT HAS COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS YOUR PRESS. THE MIKE. YEAH, IT WAS ALREADY ON. 
          GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? IT'S SIOBHAN. SORRY, SARAH. SARAH. 
          SARAH. JANE. SARAH. JANE. AND MY NAME IS TIFFANY TRAYNHAM. SARAH JANE. SAY IT. SARAH. MAIN. SARA. 
          MAIN. SARAH. MAIN. OKAY. MISTER. MISTER. CHAIRMAN. SO THIS IS SIMILAR INFORMATION TO THE PREVIOUS TWO APPLICANTS. THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT IS FOR YOU TO SHARE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE WITH US. YOU TWO ARE TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THERE. STAFF AND PLANNING AND ZONING HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. AND SO THE LAST STEP IS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE APPROVED, WHICH WILL HAPPEN ON MONDAY AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA AFTER PRESENTATIONS AND. IF THERE ARE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US THIS EVENING, YOU CAN. AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY AS WELL. IT'S ON THERE. OKAY. ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS AFTER HEARING, JUST TO SHARE HER SENTIMENT OVER HERE, JUST HEARING THE SENTIMENT ABOUT KEEPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT A 
          [01:45:03]
CERTAIN STANDARD. I THINK THAT WITH THIS BEING AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY FOR US, WE'RE RIGHT THERE WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF UPHOLDING THAT STANDARD. AND SO I MYSELF, I WHERE I LIVE NOW, I CLEAN UP AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON MY OWN. I VOLUNTEER MY SERVICES WITHOUT VOLUNTEERING WITH ANYONE. I DO IT ON MY OWN. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF MINDSET OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT THAT IT'S A BIG LIFT FOR THE CITY. SO I THINK IT COMES FROM PEOPLE LIKE US, BUSINESS OWNERS WHO OWN BUSINESSES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, EVERYONE HAS A FOOT IN IT. SO JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT AS I WAS SITTING THERE, I WAS LISTENING AND I WAS I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. SO THIS IS MY CHANCE. OKAY, ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. AND WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON CLEANING UP THAT PROPERTY. IT WAS PRETTY BADLY TRASHED. SO WE. YEAH, I THINK IT WAS THREE CONTAINERS OF TRASH, LIKE TIRES, CANS. WOW. IT WAS A LOT. PLASTICS. IT WAS VERY BAD. SO. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER MCNAMEE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. QUESTION. I KNOW THAT THERE YOU GUYS ARE REQUESTING THAT IT BE RECONSTRUCTED AS A DUPLEX. THIS ACTUALLY IS FOR MISS SMITH. SO IT WAS ALREADY A DUPLEX, RIGHT? YES. AND. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE THEY'RE COMING BACK AND THEY'RE ASKING TO REDO IT AS. SO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK. I MEAN, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW THAT. YEAH, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS A RESIDENTIAL LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT. SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO REMAIN AS A DUPLEX. HOWEVER, IT BURNED. RIGHT. AND SO IT LOST ITS LEGAL NONCONFORMING STATUS BECAUSE IT WAS BURNED BEYOND 60%. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT AND CLEANING IT UP. AND IT'S CRAZY BECAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY ON THAT FIRE. EAST POINT AND ATLANTA ENDED UP GOING TO THAT THAT RESIDENT WHEN IT THAT PLACE WHEN IT BURNED. SO IT WAS MORE THAN A GOOD BIT THAN 60%. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS, YOU, YOU PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND JUST WENT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, DID THE CLEANING AND BOARDED IT UP AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS A MESS. AND IT IT DID END UP BEING A DUMPING GROUND FOR PEOPLE. SO THEY HAVE DONE AN AWESOME JOB WITH REGARDS TO JUST GOING IN AND STARTING THE INITIAL STAGES OF HELPING TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY CLEAN. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, I YIELD AND WHEN COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS SAYS WE WERE ON THAT FIRE, SHE'S ACTUALLY A FIREFIGHTER. YEAH. THANK YOU ALL. SO WE'LL SEE YOU MONDAY. OKAY. HAVE A GREAT 
          [III.2. Update on Policing]
EVENING. ALRIGHT, SO THEN THAT TAKES US BACK TO UPDATE ON POLICING CHIEF. 
          HELLO, EVERYBODY. HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING TONIGHT? GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. I'M GOING TO BE QUICK AND BRIEF FOR YOU ALL. I BETTER GO HAVE A COUPLE UPDATES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT. THE READ SPEED CAMERAS GO INTO TESTING THE FIRST WEEK AFTER THANKSGIVING. 
          SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GIVE 30 DAYS AS REQUIRED BY LAW OF WARNING CITATIONS. AFTER THAT, BY THE TIME SCHOOL STARTS BACK AFTER CHRISTMAS, THE REGULAR CITATIONS WILL BE GIVEN. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU, IT'S THREE SCHOOLS IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT, 40 WEST, WHICH IS OFF OF HIGHLAND DRIVE. IT'S HAMPTON HOMES, WHICH IS OFF OF CONNOLLY DRIVE, AND IT'S ALSO A PREVIOUS PASSAGE OF SCHOOL, WHICH IS OFF OF MOUNT OLIVE. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A QUICK WARNING. WE'LL BE DOING A LOT OF ADVERTISING SO NOBODY WILL BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE. REAL QUICK, NEXT MONDAY, OUR PARK RANGER STARTS. HE'S ALREADY WORKING. HE'S A POLICE OFFICER. HE'S TRANSITIONING TO THE PARK RANGER POSITION. HE'LL BE WORKING A LOT WITH SHILOH ON THE PARKS. HIS NAME IS OFFICER ROSE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE LIVES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYOR. AND HE'S RETIRED FROM ATLANTA AND CAME AND JOINED US AT EAST POINT. SO THAT'S A BIG HELP FOR US. WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE OFFICERS LIVING IN THE CITY BY DECEMBER. ALL POSITIONS. WE'RE DOING OUR LAST PHASE OF INTERVIEWS AND TESTING, SO ALL THE CODE ENFORCEMENT POSITIONS WILL BE FULL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CODE SUPERVISORS, MYSELF AND CITY MANAGER. I'M WORKING ON SOMETHING FOR THE SUPERVISOR POSITION, SO WE'RE GOING TO POST THAT VERY SHORTLY. HERE. I HEARD YOU ASKED ABOUT THE TRASH PICKUP. WE DO HAVE OUR PEOPLE ON PROBATION WEEKENDS. THEY'RE ALSO 
          [01:50:02]
PICKING UP TRASH. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS GET WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO SEE WHAT'S WHAT'S THE AREAS THAT REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON. SO WE'LL BE MORE EFFICIENT AND ESSENTIAL TO THAT TASK. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER ZIGLAR. YES. THANK YOU. SO ON SATURDAY NIGHT, THERE WAS A POLICE CHASE IN JEFFERSON PARK. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN UPDATE US ON? WHAT HAPPENED? OR. I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S FINE. SO I'LL EMAIL YOU IF YOU IF IT'S OKAY. YEAH THAT'S FINE OKAY. I'LL EMAIL YOU ON IT. OKAY. OKAY. AND ALSO, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THE VILLAGES OF EAST POINT WITH THE BOX TRUCKS? KIND OF BLOCKING UP THE STREETS. SO. YES. WE HAVE EXCITED AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE OUR TRAFFIC UNIT MONITORS THOSE AREAS. BUT THAT'S THE ISSUE. THEY'RE MAKING DELIVERIES AND JUST BLOCKING THE STREETS AND NOT MOVING, JUST BEING VERY IRRESPONSIBLE. BUT WE'RE ON THAT. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. AND I JUST HAVE TWO IN. THE FIRST ONE IS WHEN WILL DID WE TALK ABOUT THE CAMP CREEK SUBSTATION, CHIEF? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND ALSO WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET AMENDMENT. WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THE SUBSTATION? THERE ARE SOME REPAIRS BEING MADE STARTING THIS WEEK. AND WE'RE REFURBISHING THAT SUBSTATION, SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE USAGE OUT OF IT. WE ORDERED FURNITURE FOR IT. SO BY DECEMBER THAT SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING. AND SINCE YOU MENTIONED SUBSTATIONS, THE ONE ON WASHINGTON ROAD, WE ARE REFURBISHING THAT AS WELL. SO BY DECEMBER THAT'LL BE UP AND RUNNING AS WELL. ALRIGHT. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, I RECEIVED JUST A TELEPHONE CALL FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES AT TARGET. THEY WANTED SINCE THE HOLIDAY TIME IS COMING, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO SIGNAGE OUT THERE, BUT THEY WANTED SIGNAGE IN REGARDS TO THE CITY WIDE CURFEW IN CAMP CREEK, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE. WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO IS ALSO GET WITH THOSE OWNERS OUT THERE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO PUT SIGNAGE. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, WE STARTED OUR CHRISTMAS DETAIL EVERY YEAR. THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING. SO THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, WE START OUR CHRISTMAS DETAIL. WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC UNITS. WE UPGRADE PATROLS. WE ALSO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT AIRPORT COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE POLICE OFFICERS, A LOT MORE VISIBILITY FROM THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING UP INTO, I THINK, THE 29TH OF DECEMBER. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. BUT I DO KNOW THE CURFEW SIGNS AND MAYBE IT'S JUST FOR TARGET AND MAYBE NOT, BUT I GUESS WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE. BUT I DID RECEIVE A TELEPHONE CALL. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE PUT UP ANY SIGNS ABOUT CURFEW. I KNOW WE PASSED THE ORDINANCE WHEN THERE WAS THOSE SHOOTINGS OUT THERE, AND AT THE BEGINNING OF COVID, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE SIGNAGE OPERATIONALLY. AND THEN WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES SINCE THEN. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES. AND ALSO MAYOR TARGET HAS A POLICE OFFICER THAT WORKS THERE FROM FOUR TO MIDNIGHT. SO ANY TYPE OF ISSUES THEY'VE HAD WITH JUVENILES THAT'S BEEN HANDLED. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY JUVENILE ISSUES IN A GOOD TIME, WHICH I'M VERY PLEASED TO SAY THAT. YEAH, KNOCK ON WOOD, THE MY CONCERN AND I HAVEN'T FREQUENTED THERE A LOT BUT I KNOW IT. I WOULD GO TO TARGET AND THE TRASH WOULD LOOK LIKE A SNOW CONE OUTSIDE OF THOSE RECEPTACLES. SO AND I KNOW YOU ALL MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULD TALK TO THEM. SO HAVE THEY BEEN. SO I KNOW THEY WERE CITED IN THE PAST, PROBABLY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO DURING THE SUMMER THEY WERE CITED. SO I WILL GET WITH CODE OFFICER MCGEE TOMORROW, AND WE'LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT. I'M GLAD YOU I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT IS NOW. SO WHEN I SAW THAT IT WAS BEFORE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION AND YOU ALL, I GUESS, SPOKE WITH THEM. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE'RE MOVING INTO THE HOLIDAYS AND THAT WE CONTINUE POST HOLIDAYS TO ENSURE THAT THAT CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE IS CLEAN AND ALL OF THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO WE NEED TO REALLY WORK WITH THEM. BUT, I MEAN, I THINK AS OF LATE I HAVEN'T LIKE NOTICED IT, HAS IT HASN'T MADE ME BE LIKE, WHAT IN THE WORLD? WHEN I'VE GONE OUT THERE SO THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN THE MESSAGE. BUT AS WE ARE GEARING UP FOR THE HOLIDAYS, IF WE COULD JUST ENSURE THAT AS WELL. NOT A PROBLEM. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. I THANK YOU ALL. DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK EVERYTHING WENT TO CONSENT, IF 
          [01:55:05]
I'M NOT MISTAKEN. YEAH. OKAY. THANKS, STEVE. THANK YOU. AND COMBINED WITH THAT ITEM NUMBER 
          [III.5. Power Outage Issues and Concerns]
23. YES. INTERIM CITY MANAGER. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER HAD SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WHEN THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. AND STAFF FROM THE POWER DEPARTMENT, THOMAS MANGRUM AND ALICIA PERSONS ARE HERE TONIGHT TO BRING THAT INFORMATION. GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU? HOW'S EVERYONE DOING TONIGHT? WE WANT TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE FROM OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD REGARDING POWER OUTAGES. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO THE LAST TIME WE CAME, WE ONLY TALKED ABOUT SUBSTATION OUTAGES, WHICH WAS DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE FULL DETAILS OF THE NUMBER OF TOTAL NUMBER OF OUTAGES THAT WE HAD CITYWIDE, CITYWIDE. SO SINCE JANUARY 1ST, 2024, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 106 OUTAGES CITYWIDE. NOW, WHAT WE CONSIDER AS AN OUTAGE IS ANYTHING MORE THAN WHEN A WHEN A FUZE BLOW AT A TRANSFORMER THAT'S CONSIDERED AN OUTAGE BECAUSE IT'S AFFECTING MORE THAN ONE CUSTOMER. A NO POWER. WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER THAT AS A ONE INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMER. WE WOULD NOT CONSIDER THAT AS A POWER OUTAGE. THE CAUSES OF OUTAGES IS 38 TREE RELATED, 30 MECHANICAL BROKEN POLES, HARDWARE FAILURE, EIGHT PUBLIC AREA CONTRACTOR ERROR FIVE PLAN OUTAGES SIX CAR ACCIDENT THREE. WILDLIFE AND EIGHT DEPARTMENTAL SWITCHING ERROR AND SEVEN WERE UNKNOWN. ALRIGHT, NOW THE GRID HARDENING PROJECT UPDATE CURRENT STATUS IS THE DESIGN PHASE IS COMPLETE. THE UTILITY LOCATE STARTED. PIKE STARTED. THAT. WE GAVE THEM AUTHORIZATION TO START THAT LAST WEEK. WHERE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AND LOCATING ALL OF THE GAS LINES, UNDERGROUND COMMUNICATION LINES. THAT'S ON BEAR HILL ROAD. THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO NOW IS MATERIAL AUDIENCE STAGE, WHERE THE TRANSFORMERS EVERYTHING IS HAS A LEAD TIME. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE WAREHOUSE TO ORDER CONDUIT AND OTHER MATERIALS ARE BEING ORDERED DAILY. OUR NEXT STEP IS THE PIKE ENGINEERING. THE PERMITTING, SURVEY AND STAKING EASEMENT ACQUISITION, RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES AND THEN ENGINEERING SERVICES WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON TOP OF IT AND GETTING EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED. ALL RIGHT. NOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WERE, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES SIMILAR TO WHAT CITY OF EASTPOINTE I REACHED OUT TO THE SEVERAL CITIES MARIETTA, FAIRBURN, COLLEGE PARK AND NEWNAN, AND I SENT THEM A SURVEY OF SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND WE ALL PRETTY MUCH WE ALL WAS ON THE SAME PAGE AS FAR AS WHAT CAUSES THE POWER OUTAGES. AND ONE, EVERYBODY AGREED THAT SEVERE WEATHER, DANGEROUS TREES, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, AGING, INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTENANCE ISSUES, VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND WILDLIFE INTERFERENCE. WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR POWER RELIABILITY? PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING. WE'RE DEFINITELY ON THE SAME PATH AS THE LEADERS IN THIS AREA. AND MY METERS, THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE AM METERS THROUGH TANTALUS THE TRIP SAVERS. SMART FUZES. WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE INSTALLED, BUT WE WILL BE INSTALLING MORE THE SMART SWITCHES. WE ARE THROUGH WITH THE SYSTEM STUDY. SO THEY SHOULD BE GOING UP PRETTY SOON. 
          WE ARE WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE SCADA SYSTEM THAT WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH OUR OUTAGES AND GET NOTIFIED WHEN THERE'S AN OUTAGE IMMEDIATELY. AND LIKE I SAID, THE SYSTEM STUDY, JUST KEEP THAT UP. JUST DON'T JUST STOP. JUST STAY ON. STAY ON THE GROUND WITH THAT. EACH POINT OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR AS A TEAM OUTAGE MONITORING. DO A BETTER JOB OF TRACKING, TRACKING, CAUSE OF OUTAGES AND OUTAGE DETAIL TO INFORM TO INFORM CORRECTIVE ACTIONS. REGULAR SYSTEMS REVIEWS CONTINUES CONTINUOUSLY ASSESSING AND UPDATING SYSTEM STUDIES TO ADDRESS EMERGING RELIABILITY CHALLENGES TO CHALLENGES. OUTAGE RESTORATION GUIDELINES CLEAR 
          [02:00:02]
PROTOCOLS FOR RESTORING POWER QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY DURING AN OUTAGE. OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS COMMUNICATION. WE HAVE A WE HAD A WELL, WE'RE WORKING ON OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNICATION TEAM, MAKING SURE WE GIVE CORRECT INFORMATION AND THE DATA THAT WE GIVE THAT WE PROVIDE WITH THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED, WHAT AREAS ARE BEING AFFECTED THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND CUSTOMERS WOULD BE WELL AWARE. ALRIGHT. 
          AND THIS NEXT ONE, WE REALLY ENCOURAGE CUSTOMERS TO SIGN UP FOR THE UTILITY HUB. IT'S FREE. 
          ALL CUSTOMERS HAVE TO SIGN UP. WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN AND YOU CAN REVIEW YOUR BILL. EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO GO TO POWER OUTAGE NOTIFICATION THROUGH THIS. SO WHEN THE EVENT YOUR POWER OUTAGE YOUR YOUR POWER GOES OUT, YOU WILL RECEIVE THE NOTIFICATION THROUGH THIS ALSO THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS WILL BE A GREAT TOOL FOR ALL CUSTOMERS. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER ZIGGLER. CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE TRIP SAVERS AND SMART SWITCHES ARE AGAIN? YEAH, THE TRIP SAVERS IS IT'S SIMILAR TO A FUZE, BUT IT'S A SMART FUZE. NOW CURRENTLY WHEN A FUZE BLOWS IT ONLY GIVES YOU ONE SHOT. IT JUST IT'S DONE THIS TRIP. SO WHAT IT DOES, IT GIVES THE UP. IT WILL CLOSE BACK IN. 
          IT'S SIMILAR TO A BREAKER. IT HAS A SMART. SO WITH A IT A SUBSTATION BREAKER IT OPEN. 
          CLOSE. OPEN. CLOSE. IT GIVES IT TRIES TO CLEAR THE FAULT. SO IN THE EVENT LIKE A SQUIRREL. GET IN IT. GET ON THE LINE OR A TREE LIMB JUST COMES ACROSS IT. THIS WILL PREVENT THE SUBSTATION FROM GOING OUT. AND ALSO THE CUSTOMERS LOSING POWER. WE WILL RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION TO LET US KNOW HEY SOMETHING HAPPENED. WE NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND CHECK THAT AREA, SEE IF WE SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED THIS PROBLEM, BUT OVERALL IT WILL. THAT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE SWITCHES AS WELL. IT JUST COMMUNICATE WITH US, LET US KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM IN THE AREA, BUT IT WILL ALSO HELP WITH POWER AND CUSTOMERS NOT LOSING POWER AS QUICKLY AS IT IS. GOT IT. THANK YOU AND WHEN ARE WE. SO WE'RE BURYING THE POWER OR WE'RE LOOKING TO BURY THE POWER LINES OVER IN HEADLAND AND WILLOW. DO LIKE WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN THAT. YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE FOR US TO. YES. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE STEPS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WILL, THAT, THAT WAS OVERLOOKED WAS THE PERMITTING AND THE EASEMENT ACQUISITIONS. SOME OF THESE AREAS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT TRANSFORMERS ON CUSTOMERS POSSIBLY. I'M I'M WE'RE NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT THE STAKING AND THE EASEMENT AND THE SURVEYING IS FOR. SO WE THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT. NOW EARLIER TONIGHT YOU GUYS SAID THAT THAT TO CONSENT. SO THAT'S GOOD. SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET STARTED ON THAT. AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A DELAY. BUT WE ARE EXPECTING SOME DELAYS WITH IT. 
          HOPEFULLY TO GIVE YOU A TIME FRAME. I JUST CAN'T BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT PROCESS WOULD TAKE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT FOR ME, THANK YOU. AND ONE OF THE KEY THINGS I WANT TO SAY WAS THE TRANSFORMERS LEAD TIME WITH HURRICANE HELENA AND THE HURRICANE MILTON THAT CAME THROUGH A LOT OF CITIES. I MEAN, A LOT OF CITIES THAT THEY'RE ON THAT LIST TO GET TRANSFORMERS, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN PUT IN A REQUEST TODAY TO GET TRANSFORMERS, HOWEVER, IT'S NOT GUARANTEED BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE AND AS THEY STATED TO US, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE CITIES FIRST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THEIR SERVICES RESTORED AND RESTART THEIR TRANSFORMERS AS WELL. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE RUNNING INTO, RIGHT NOW. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I FIGURED I COULD SNEAK THIS QUESTION IN SO WE CAN TAKE THIS OFF OUR AGENDA. 
          OKAY. ABOUT. OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PIGGYBACK OF THE TRANSFORMERS WITH THE PUERTO RICAN CONTRACT AND COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR BUYING THOSE TRANSFORMERS? NOT NECESSARILY DEALING WITH THE PIGGYBACK, BUT HOW DO WE HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE I MET WITH A VENDOR THAT MAY I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WENT THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS OR NOT. I GUESS THEY DIDN'T. BUT HOW DO WE KNOW AND HOW DO WE CHECK THAT OUT? WELL, THE CONTRACT, ONCE I RECEIVE THE CONTRACT, I SENT IT OVER TO OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT AND THEY DO THE RESEARCH ON IT AND LET US KNOW IF IT'S IF IT'S GOOD. THAT'S HOW WE THAT'S HOW WE CHOSE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE MY QUESTION THOUGH IS A MORE SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE STANDARD. LIKE I'M SURE THAT WITH TRANSFORMERS 
          [02:05:01]
THERE'S A PARTICULAR STANDARD THAT YOU MUST HAVE OR, OR ALL TRANSFORMERS THE SAME OR THEY KNOW NOT ALL TRANSFORMERS ARE THE SAME. IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S DEPEND ON WHAT SIZE YOU WANT AND WHAT HOW DO YOU WANT IT BUILT. SO IS IT LIKE A ARE WE ARE WE ORDERING CUSTOM TRANSFORMERS. 
          NOT NECESSARILY. NO SIR. NO WE'RE NOT OKAY. NO. SO IN SOME INSTANCES YES. SOME TRANSFORMERS REQUIRE SOME LOCATION, REQUIRE A DIFFERENT VOLTAGE TRANSFORMER. SO SOME ARE TRANSFORMERS SPECIALLY. AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE A LOT OF OUR TRANSFORMERS LATELY WITH THE BACKUP TRANSFORMERS AS WELL. FOR LARGER BUSINESSES WHO WE DON'T HAVE THE BACKUP TRANSFORMER, WE IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD TO REACH OUT TO ANOTHER CITY TO GET THAT BACKUP TRANSFORMER. SO WE REACHED OUT TO NEWTON, WE GOT A TRANSFORMER FROM MARIETTA, I BELIEVE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT BY HAVING OUR OWN TRANSFORMERS ON THE YARD. OKAY. AND I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR PROCUREMENT. IT'S A BRIEF ONE. HOW DO WE IF WE KNOW SAY IT'S A COUPLE OF COMPANIES, NOT JUST ONE SPECIFIC. AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU WHO TO USE. BUT IF WE SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON, HOW DO WE DO THAT AND HOW DO WE AFFORD THOSE PEOPLE TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN VET THOSE PEOPLE AND THEN PUT THEM IN THE BID PROCESS? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILMAN BUTLER. ALL YOU WOULD DO IS HAVE THEM EMAIL PURCHASING AT EASTPOINT CITY.OR. A LOT OF TIMES WE ASK FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, STATEMENT OF WORK, AND WE ACTUALLY MAKE A CATALOG. AND I WOULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION, RESEARCH WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, FIND OUT WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S UNDER THIS THRESHOLD OR I WOULD ACTUALLY CATALOG THEM, WAIT FOR SOLICITATION, EMAIL THEM DIRECTLY, LET THEM KNOW THAT THE SOLICITATION IS COMING OUT. ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TRANSFORMERS ARE ALL THESE MADE IN THE UNITED STATES OR ARE THEY MADE ABROAD WITH PARTICULAR EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT? SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THE PARTS, THE COMPONENTS ARE MADE ABROAD. SO WHETHER THEY'RE ASSEMBLING, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THEY'RE MADE AT. BUT I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMPONENTS ARE MADE ABROAD AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE BIGGEST DELAY IN THE BUILDING. THE TRANSFORMERS. ARE WE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS OR DO WE JUST HAVE TO DO BUSINESS WITH US? COMPANIES? NO, SIR. IT JUST HAS TO BE US. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I THINK YOU ARE. YEAH. I HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE LEFT? WHAT IS YOUR LAWYER HERE? OH. PATH. PLANNING. ZONING. STAFF LEFT. SURE LOOKS LIKE IT. ITEM 33 DEALS WITH THEM. SHALL LORD PINKETT? NO, NOT SO. I'M TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS AND GET STAFF OUT OF HERE. BUT ITEM 33 IS NOTIFICATION OF PLANNING AND ZONING. YEAH, BUT THAT'S PLANNING IS ON THE STAFF. SO I THINK PATH PROJECT AND SPLASH DEAL WITH SR LORD AND THEN AND PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE PROBABLY COULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM. WE'LL GO UPDATE ON THE PATH PROJECT. 
          [III.6. Update on the Path Project]
MISS JESSIE. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE HAVE CORDELL HALL HERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND CHARLOTTE PINKETT FROM PARKS AND RECREATION TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL WORKING WITH CORDELL ON OUR TRAIL SYSTEM THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS NOW. AND CORDELL CAN KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND SOME OF THE ENGINEERING PLANS FOR THE PATH THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. GOOD EVENING. CURRENTLY, THE PATH PROJECT THAT WE HAVE A MULTI-MODAL PATH FROM VIRGINIA AVENUE FROM TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL TO VIRGINIA AVENUE, WHICH CONGRESSIONAL SPENDING FUNDING FOR. WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS HERE INTERNALLY WITH THE CITY. WE EVALUATED ALL THE CONSULTANTS. WE'VE GIVEN THOSE RESULTS TO GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, GDOT, AND SO WE'RE WAITING FROM THEM TO GIVE US A NOTICE TO PROCEED TO A GRANT CONSULTANT. SO ONCE WE GET A NOTICE TO PROCEED FROM THEM, WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT CONSULTANT AND THE RESULTS BACK TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. AND WE CAN START THE CONTRACT INTERNALLY. I WAS THAT SAID FROM OUR MASTER PLAN. YEAH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH SEGMENT 
          [02:10:01]
IT IS INTERNALLY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S A PORTION. IT'S THE SAME PATH THAT WAS THE MIDDLE MILE, JUST THE CONTINUING SEGMENT. SO I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER. WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH RECENTLY. HE MAY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT SOME OF THE MEETINGS WE'VE BEEN HAVING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PATH FUNDING AS WELL. SO I KNOW I THINK IT WAS BACK THIS SUMMER WHEN OUR TEAM CAME TO THE CITY. I WAS A PART OF MEETINGS WITH MELISSA AND WATER. MORE RECENTLY, WE HAD A MEETING SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PATH AND DIFFERENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK KENDYL AND I HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED. IS IT THE 14TH? MAYBE THE 14TH OF THIS MONTH TO TALK ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPTIONS THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US? SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK. WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING A FEW MORE SEGMENTS FROM OUR TRAIL MASTER PLAN, TRYING TO GET SOME MORE FUNDING FOR THOSE THINGS AS WELL. I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON RIGHT NOW. WHAT ABOUT THE $35 MILLION THAT WE'RE GETTING FOR CONNECTING DOWNTOWN SEGMENTS TO THE BELTLINE? I THINK THE SEGMENTS TWO AND THREE. YEAH. SO YES, INTERESTING ABOUT THAT. THE CITY RECEIVED FUNDING FOR SCOPING FOR ONE OF THE SEGMENTS SEPARATELY FROM THE ARC. SO WE BOTH KIND OF HAVE DUAL FUNDING FOR THE SAME PROJECT. SO WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM ON HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY SHOULD TAKE ON. YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUT THE PROJECT AS SEPARATELY FROM THE LARGER FLINT PROJECT, OR SHOULD THE ARC, YOU KNOW, COMBINE IT WITH THEIR LARGER PROJECT. SO WHERE'S THE FUNDING COMING FROM? FROM SCOPING FOR U? T-SPLOST. NO, FROM WE GOT FEDERAL FUNDING DOT GRANT AS WELL FOR SCOPING. WE WERE KIND OF AHEAD OF THEM ON OUR APPLICATION FOR THAT SEGMENT. SO HOW MUCH DID WE GET? WE GOT I THINK 500,000. YEAH. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT $35 MILLION FOR US IN THE ARC PROJECT. WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT TO DO WITH OUR FUNDING, HOW IT NEEDS TO FIT INTO THAT BIGGER PICTURE, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE FUNDING FOR ALL THE PHASES, AND WE JUST HAVE PLANNING. SO WHEN THE CONVERSATION WAS IN. BUT ONCE WE GET THE WORD ON HOW WE NEED TO MANEUVER WITH THE DUAL FUNDING, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL 500,000 VERSUS 35 MILLION. I MEAN, WE DON'T JUST WANT TO GIVE THE MONEY BACK. NO, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE GIVE IT BACK AT ALL. BUT I MEAN, OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. Y'ALL ARE WORKING TOGETHER. I THINK THEY'RE ALSO ABOUT TO START THE COMMUNITY TRANSPORTATION PLAN CONVERSATION REGIONALLY WITH ALL OF THE PARTNERS ON THAT GRANT AS WELL. COUNCIL RECENTLY APPROVED THE MOU. SO ALL OF THE ENTITIES HAVE SIGNED ON TO THAT. SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PLANNING BEFORE THEY GET THE MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT MONEY IS FOR SCOPING. THAT MONEY IS FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO YEAH, I'M SURE WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO. YEAH. HELP. 500,000 STRETCH FOR 35 MILLION. I THINK IT'D BE EASIER FOR THEM AS A WHOLE TO MANAGE ALL OF IT AT ONE TIME TOO, RATHER THAN THE CITIES DOING THE INDIVIDUAL SEGMENTS. SO YEAH, THEY ARE MANAGING THE FUNDING. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. HI. THANK YOU. I GET A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT I KNOW THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF IDEA OR DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF PLAN FOR LIKE THE COMPLETION OF THE WHOLE THING OR OR LIKE WHAT, WHAT CAN WE TELL PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING ABOUT THIS? SO A PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT CHARLOTTE NOW HAVING RECENTLY ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER THESE PIECE BY PIECE SEGMENTS, TRYING TO KIND OF GROUP TOGETHER AND GET MULTIPLE SEGMENTS OUT AT ONE TIME, IT STARTS TO KIND OF CATCH UP ON THE MASTER PLAN. DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OVERALL HOW EVERYTHING WILL BE COMPLETED AND WHAT TIMELINE, BUT TRYING TO PICK UP THE PACE ON. AS YOU SEE, WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE SEGMENTS GOING ON NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET FUNDING TO GET MULTIPLE IN DIFFERENT WARDS GOING. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL SAY TO THAT POINT THERE. SO SEGMENTS LIKE ONE THROUGH EIGHT ARE IN OUR DOWNTOWN METRO AREA. URBAN RESIDENTIAL AREA, DOWNTOWN. THERE ARE CONCERNS BY RESIDENTS, I THINK ON SEGMENTS LIKE NINE THROUGH 16 THAT GO THROUGH MORE HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND PASSBAND CUT BEHIND THEIR PROPERTY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO ONE THROUGH EIGHT, WE'RE CONNECTING THIS URBAN AREA AROUND HERE TO THE AIRPORT OR FLINT RIVER TO THE BELTLINE, THROUGH OUR COMMUNITIES AND PARKS. BUT I THINK WHEN WE START GETTING TO SEGMENTS NINE THROUGH 16, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS FROM CERTAIN RESIDENTS, FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE THOSE ARE HIGHLY, HIGHLY RESIDENTIAL, LARGER RESIDENTIAL AREAS, NOT MUCH COMMERCIAL OR EVEN PARKS WITHIN THAT AREA. AND THEN FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WHEN WE ADOPTED 
          [02:15:05]
A PLAN WAY BACK IN 2000, 1615, 16, I THINK IT COST AT THAT POINT, THE PROJECTED COST WAS LIKE $30 MILLION FOR THE TOTAL. AND THAT WAS PRE A LOT OF THINGS. SO THAT THAT COST IS DEFINITELY GONE UP SUBSTANTIALLY. BUT IF WE CAN GET THE SEGMENT NUMBER FOR TRI-CITIES, SO SEGMENT ONE WAS THE MODEL MILE. AND THEN WE'LL THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION GRANT WILL DO A COUPLE SEGMENTS. AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING THE MODEL MILES. SO THAT'S ABOUT PROBABLY ABOUT 4 OR 5 OUT OF THE EIGHT URBAN AREA SEGMENTS. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW. AND PLUS WE HAVE TSPLOST ALLOCATION FOR SEGMENTS AS WELL. RIGHT. HOW MUCH DO WE ALLOCATE IN TSPLOST. WE ALLOCATE 5 MILLION IN T-SPLOST FOR PAST. ANYTHING ELSE FROM MARK? ROGER. 
          YES. AND THANK YOU. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN ALSO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, I HAVE BEEN GETTING QUESTIONS. I THINK AT MY LAST COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROJECT COMING THROUGH WARD D IN WHERE. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO INFORM RESIDENTS? I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO SAY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, BUT MAYBE EVERY QUARTER JUST NOTIFICATION WITH THE CHECK OFF, THE DELIVERABLES, THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT. 
          YEAH. SO KIND OF TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, COMMUNITY MEETINGS WILL BE A BIG PART OF THE ROLLOUT WHEN WE START GETTING MORE INTO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF IT. LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE STUFF IN THE URBAN AREAS, WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF NAVIGATE THROUGH, BUT THOSE MEETINGS WILL REQUIRE MEETINGS TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PLANS ARE AS FAR AS THE DELIVERABLE OF ALL THE PATHS BEING COMPLETED. THAT'S KIND OF CHALLENGING, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE'LL GIVE A DATE ON THAT, BUT WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO KNOCK OUT AS MANY OF THE PATHS AS WE CAN AND LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS AS WELL TO SUPPORT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. 
          [III.7. Update on TSPLOST Projects]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN UPDATE ON TSPLOST PROJECTS. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM. WE WERE ASKED TO COME PRESENT ON TSPLOST PROJECTS, BUT WE KIND OF DID A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AND COMBINED ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT WORK AND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS ALONG WITH OUR TSPLOST PROJECTS AS WELL, TO GIVE AN UPDATE. 
          WE'LL START WITH THE UPDATE ON OUR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED THIS YEAR, HELD IN THE LOW INTERSECTION PROJECT WAS COMPLETED NORTH OF COMMERCE DRIVE. REDWINE INTERSECTION WAS COMPLETED SOME VARIOUS SMALLER SIDEWALK PROJECTS. MOUNT OLIVE ROAD, DODSON DRIVE CONNECTOR, HELEN TERRY SIDEWALKS WERE ALL COMPLETED. BEING HERE, OLD SIDEWALK PROJECTS IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. WE'RE FINISHING UP SOME AREAS NOW WITH THAT PROJECT, THE ARROW CIRCLE PROJECT. WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO BE COMPLETE IN JANUARY 2025, JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT AND WHERE WE ARE. WE'VE HAD SOME UTILITY ISSUES, PARTICULARLY A WATER LEAK UNDERNEATH WASHINGTON ROAD, WHICH KIND OF HALTED THE PROGRESS OF THE CONTRACTOR. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT TRYING TO CHASE DOWN THIS LEAK, AND FOR ALMOST A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW, JUST TRYING TO GET A GRASP ON IT. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THE LEAK UNDER CONTROL BEFORE WE CAN CONTINUE WIDENING WASHINGTON ROAD AND FINISHING THE PROJECT. SO WE ANTICIPATE GETTING THAT COMPLETE. THE CONTRACTOR CAN FINISH MAKING ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR HALE CIRCLE AND LAST BUT AT LEAST OUR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GDOT PROJECT, THE LCI DOWNTOWN MULTIMODAL PROJECT, ALL THE UTILITIES, THE GAS, THE WATER ARE BEING RELOCATED ON MAIN 
          [02:20:03]
STREET AND WE ANTICIPATE THE CONTRACTOR STARTING IN JANUARY OF 2025. WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GET GROUND BROKE AND CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY AS WE APPROACH THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND HAVE WORK ON UNCOMPLETED AND JUST GO INTO CHRISTMAS AND THANKSGIVING. SO KIND OF PUSHING THEM OFF UNTIL JANUARY TO START WORKING ON MAIN STREET. SO GO OVER OUR TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS THAT WE COMPLETED IN 2024, GOT DOGWOOD DRIVE, SUN VALLEY BOULEVARD, PALM SPRINGS DRIVE, ARROWOOD DRIVE, MONTROSE DRIVE, PLANTATION DRIVE AND RIGGS DRIVE, CUL DE SAC JUST TO GIVE KIND OF A TRANSPARENCY ON SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT WE SPENT. WE SPENT AROUND $72,000 IN STUDYING, WHICH INCLUDES DATA COLLECTION, HIRING CONSULTANTS TO, YOU KNOW, DO THE ENGINEERING AND EVERYTHING TO JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR TRAFFIC CALMING. WE SPENT AROUND 224,000IN DESIGN AND AROUND 281,000 ON CONSTRUCTION SO FAR. PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE OUR RESURFACING PROJECT FOR GDOT PROJECT, WHICH WILL RESURFACE WASHINGTON ROAD NORTH, COMMERCE DRIVE AND CENTER PARKWAY. THAT PROJECT WAS ALREADY COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, WHICH IS WAITING. HAD TO KICK OFF MEETINGS WITH THE GDOT AND GIVE THE CONTRACTOR THE NOTICE TO PROCEED. WE ALSO HAVE JANICE DRIVE INTERSECTION PROJECT, WHICH WILL REALIGN JANICE DRIVE AT WASHINGTON ROAD. WE HAVE JACKSON DRIVE SIDEWALKS, SYLVAN ROAD SIDEWALKS, SOUTH FROM THE CITY LIMITS OF FAYETTEVILLE TO WASHINGTON ROAD TO CLEVELAND AVENUE. AND WE HAVE A TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT WHICH INCLUDES HENRY STREET, WINBURN AVE, AND KATHLEEN CIRCLE. AS WELL AS VARIOUS CURB, RAMP AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE CITY. SO HERE ARE A LIST OF OUR PROJECTS THAT ARE FOR DESIGN. WE HAVE A CITYWIDE SPLASH RESURFACING PROJECT. A TOTAL OF 94 STREETS ENCOMPASSING ALL FOUR WARDS. WE HAVE SYLVAN ROAD NORTH, WHICH IS FROM CITY LIMIT. SORRY, IT SHOULD BE ATLANTA TO CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ON JEFFERSON AVENUE. WE HAVE NORTH DESERT DRIVE SIDEWALKS AND RESURFACING. THIS WAS A PROJECT APPROVED FOR MAY 2024. COUNTY DRIVE SIDEWALKS AND WE ALSO HAVE THE MULTIMODAL PATH, WHICH WAS JUST DISCUSSED ON MAIN STREET, WHICH WAS ALSO RECEIVED. THE FLINT RIVER FUNDING, ALONG WITH THE GDOT PROJECT FOR THE MULTIMODAL PATH ON NORMAN BERRY DRIVE CONNECTING TO VIRGINIA AVENUE. AND WE ALSO HAVE A WELCOME ROAD CONNECTOR PROJECT, AS WELL AS OUR 2023 PROJECT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE CHURCH STREET WEST, TAYLOR AVENUE AND HARRISON ROAD. THERE'S SOME OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN OUR DEPARTMENT CENTER STREET AT WEST AVENUE AND HELEN SLASH HELEN DRIVE. WE DID A DATA COLLECTION STUDY WHICH WARRANTED CONVERTING THAT EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO A FOUR WAY STOP. SO WE MADE THAT CONVERSION ON CHURCH STREET. WE CONVERTED A FOUR WAY STOP AT CHURCH STREET AND NEELY AVENUE, STRAIGHT STREET IN WEST HAMILTON. WE'VE ALSO CONVERTED THAT TO A FOUR WAY STOP, UPGRADED THE CURB RAMPS AND THE STRIPING AT THE INTERSECTION. 
          ISLAND PARKWAY. WE HAVE A CONSULTANT DESIGNED IMPROVEMENTS TO REPAIR THAT BRIDGE, AND WE'VE ALREADY AWARDED THAT CONTRACT. TOOK US TO A CONTRACTOR TO START MAKING THOSE REPAIRS, AS WELL AS VARIOUS SIDEWALK REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I'LL LEAVE THE FLOOR OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU. AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS. AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHERE AND HELEN, WHAT MADE YOU ALL CHANGE THAT TO A FOUR WAY STOP SIGN ON SAMSON WHERE HELEN. YEAH, THERE WERE SOME THERE WERE THERE WAS SOME VISIBILITY CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE SIDE STREETS, HELEN. AND WHERE AND THERE WAS ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEFT TURN SAFETY ON SAM STREET DUE TO THE HILL APPROACHING FROM HELEN DRIVE, AS WELL AS JUST THE JUSTIFICATION OF IT NEEDING A SIGNAL. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHAT DID AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE RED LIGHT WAS TAKEN AWAY FOR A STOP SIGN. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE IF THAT IF IT WAS VISIBILITY THAT YOU HAD THAT YOU WILL HAVE WITH A STOP SIGN. AND LET ME JUST SAY WHY. BECAUSE WITH A RED LIGHT, YOU HAVE TO 
          [02:25:05]
COME TO A COMPLETE STOP, RIGHT? WITH A STOP SIGN. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. AND I'M GOING TO RECORD AND SAY I'M A ROLLER. WHEN I COME UP ON THE STOP SIGN, I TAP. 
          IF I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, MY CAR IS STILL ROLLING. I'M GOING WITH THE STOP WITH THE RED LIGHT AND THAT LIGHT IS RED. YOU HAVE TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. YOU CAN'T ROLL. YOU CAN'T KEEP GOING. YOU GOT TO STOP. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE END GAME, WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING WHAT WAS TRYING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED. THAT WASN'T BEING ACCOMPLISHED WITH THAT RED LIGHT BEING THERE. SO I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING. WE WERE HAVING THAT LOCATION. IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND ON SIMS, SAY YOU'RE MAKING A LEFT ONTO HELEN. IF THE OTHER CAR IF THE CAR IS GOING NORTH, HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO VISIBLY SEE THEM OVER THE HILL SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO MAKE THE LEFT TURN BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GREEN LIGHT. BUT KNOWING THERE'S A STOP SIGN THERE, YOU'RE FORCING THE VEHICLES TO STOP SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE LEFT TURN. SO IT'S NOT THE IT'S NOT THE RED LIGHT, THE STOPPING. IT'S THE PEOPLE WITH THE GREEN WHO ARE SPEEDING OR GOING AT HIGH SPEED AND OTHER CARS NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THEM VISUALLY, BUT WHEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO PUT, DON'T KNOW, TURN ON RED BECAUSE HERE AGAIN YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE THE SAME SITUATION. IF YOU ARE COMING UP TO IF I'M COMING FROM HELEN AND I'M COMING UP WHERE AND I GET TO THE TO THAT POINT I DON'T SEE ANY CARS, I'M, I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING. BUT IF THAT LIGHT IS RED, I'M GOING TO STOP. 
          AND TECHNICALLY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LEFT. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK BOTH WAYS TO MAKE SURE NO CAR IS COMING. EVEN IF YOU'RE MAKING A RIGHT HAND TURN. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO PUT A NO TURN ON RED SIGN THERE, THEN TO TAKE THE STOP SIGN AWAY, THEN TO TAKE THE LIGHT AWAY AND PUT A STOP SIGN BECAUSE YOU LIKE I SAY YOU, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE ROLLERS. SO WE JUST WE, YOU KNO, DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE, DID A STUDY ON EVERYTHING TO JUSTIFY WE DIDN'T JUST TAKE IT OUT. SO FIRST OF ALL, SO WE HAD THE DATA TO BACK IT. AND I THINK ANOTHER THING WAS IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE VOLUME OR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THAT IS NECESSARY FOR A SIGNAL. IT WAS JUST THERE IN PLACE FROM MY OLD MAYBE USED THINKING IT WAS A SCHOOL IN THE AREA. AT ONE POINT. MAYBE SO, ALONG WITH THE SAFETY CONCERNS, YOU CAN JUSTIFY TAKING THAT BY IS THERE EVEN ENOUGH TRAFFIC USING THAT INTERSECTION TO JUSTIFY KEEPING THE SIGNAL THERE? SO A LOT OF THINGS WENT INTO THE CONSIDERATION. I SAY WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. I SAY KEEPING THE RED LIGHT THERE YOU YOU ACCOMPLISH THE SAME. YOU GET THE SAME THING. IT'S NO DIFFERENT WITH PUTTING A STOP SIGN THERE. IT MAKES IT MORE HECTIC. BUT HEY, WHO AM I MOVING ON NEXT? NEXT ONE. WHEN WILL THE OTHER END OF THE YELLOW TO BEN HILL BE PAID? SO THAT IS INCLUDED ON THE 94TH STREET THAT WE'RE STILL GETTING TOGETHER THIS LIST, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE THAT MADE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE ONCE WE GET IT REALLY FINALIZED. BUT THE REST OF HELEN, THE REST OF THE LOW BEING HEALED WILL BE FOLLOWING UP SIDEWALK PROJECT AND THE ELECTRIC POWER PROJECT AS WELL. 
          SO ALL THE MAJOR CORRIDORS AND PLACES THAT WE PUT SIDEWALKS IN WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS PROJECT COMPLETELY. OKAY, MY LAST ONE IS WOODHAVEN. I SENT AN EMAIL THIS MORNING TO MISS JESSIE, THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, IN REFERENCE TO WOODHAVEN, AND I WENT OUT AND I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE STREET AND IT IS DIVIDING. IT IS SINKING. AND THEY DO HAVE SOME ISSUES GOING ON. SO WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR THAT STREET BEING REPAIRED AND I KNOW THEY CALLED AND SAID SOMEBODY DUMPED SOME GRAVEL OR SOMETHING ON THE STREET IN THE PART WHERE IT'S STARTING TO SEPARATE. IS THERE. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT STREET BEING REPAIRED? BECAUSE THERE ARE ELDERLIES THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET. SO THAT IS A CONCERN. YES, MA'AM. MISS STOKES HAD CALLED ME ABOUT THIS ISSUE LAST WEEK AND STAFF HAD IT ON THEIR SCHEDULE. SHE HAS SOME ISSUES BETWEEN HER DRIVEWAY AND THE STREET, AND THEY WERE OUT THERE TODAY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. AND I DID TELL HER THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE EVALUATE THE STREETS. SHE WAS SAYING THAT SHE FELT IT WAS SPLITTING OR DIPPING OR SOMETHING, BUT I TOLD HER THAT I HAD ALREADY EVALUATED THAT STREET, WOODHILL CIRCLE AS WELL, WHICH IS THE NEXT STREET OVER, AND WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH SOME TREE ROOTS GROWING INTO AND STUFF, SO THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ON OUR RADAR. SO I CAN 
          [02:30:02]
TELL YOU ABOUT THE STREETS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE NEXT ENGINEERING PROJECT. SO, YES, LIKE MR. REESE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE ISSUES IN THAT AREA. BUT I THINK THOSE STREETS WILL PROBABLY BE FULLY REPAVED ON OUR NEXT GO ROUND OF PAVING PROJECTS. SO WE'RE SORRY, BUT YEAH, THE IMMEDIATE ISSUES SUCH AS THE ROOFS IN SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH OUR DRIVEWAY, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK WITH OUR STAFF INTERNALLY TO FIX SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE THINGS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELCOME. COUNCILMAN ZIEGLE. THANK YOU. AND MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE 94 STREETS. SO IS THAT LIKE, DOES THAT WHAT DOES THAT COMPRISE OF? IS THAT LIKE PART OF THE BACKLOG OR NEW REQUESTS OR LIKE WHAT WHAT DOES THAT CONSIST OF CONSIST OF FINISHING UP T ONE STREETS THAT WE HAD ALONG WITH STREETS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN, RECOMMENDED THAT WE REPAVE AS WELL AS US, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT TOGETHER PROJECTS THAT MADE SENSE IN ALL THE WARDS, LIKE GROUPS OF STREETS IN CERTAIN AREAS. SO A COMBINATION OF ALL THE ABOVE, SOME REQUESTS ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE WERE ALREADY DOING, BUT MOSTLY FROM A LIST THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED AND FROM OUR PAVEMENT PROJECT. LIST OF PAVEMENT CONDITION LIST. SORRY. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THE STREETS ON LINE OF, OF WHERE WHAT T-SPLOST ONE AND TWO CONSIST OF. ARE WE GOING TO BE LIKE PUTTING OUT A NEW LIST ONLINE? YES. THE PLAN IS TO GET THIS LIST FINALIZED. GET IT? I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A WHOLE LIST OF STREETS ON THE ON THE AGENDA. IT WOULD BE TOO MUCH TO READ AT ONE TIME NOW, BUT ALSO GET IT MAPPED OUT. SO THERE'S GRAPHICAL SO EVERYONE CAN SEE AND MAKE SENSE OF IT. SO ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING COMPILED, WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, NOT ONLY A LIST, BUT LIKE I SAID, A MAP. OKAY. AND I GET A LOT OF REQUESTS. TONS OF REQUESTS OF RESIDENTS WHO WANT THEIR STREET REPAVED. WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO VOICE IT TO YOU? WE CAN ALWAYS SEND US AN EMAIL AT PUBLIC WORKS AT EAST POINT CITY. ORG, AND WE CAN RESPOND TO THEIR REQUEST DIRECTLY. AND WE ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE EMAIL TRANSPORTATION DIVISION AT EAST POINT, CITY.ORG THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE ENGINEERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON TRAFFIC CALMING. I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS AROUND, LIKE THE PROCESS OF LIKE, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING? AND I THINK THAT BEFORE IT'S BEEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND THEN SORT OF PROCESS. WE GOT THE PETITION ONLINE. WE ALSO UPDATED THE SITE WITH THE LIKE, A MANUAL THAT GOES MORE INTO DETAIL ON OUR PROCESS OF HOW WE COLLECT DATA. SOME OF THE DEVICES THAT WE POTENTIALLY USE. BUT THE FIRST STEP IS TO SUBMIT THE PETITION FORM TO US. AND THEN FROM THERE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, GET SIGNATURES AND DESCRIBE WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PETITIONING FOR. WE REVIEW IT IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL DO A, YOU KNOW, A STUDY OF DATA COLLECTION. IF NOT, WE'LL STILL GIVE A RESPONSE IN SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE ON DON'T GET THEM RESPONSE BACK. 
          OKAY. AND EVERY, EVERY STREET THAT HAS HAD SPEED BUMPS PUT ON THEM. THEY'VE ALL GONE THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS. YES. EVERYONE, EVERY STREET THAT WE'VE DONE A PROJECT ON, THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE PETITIONS AND WE ACTUALLY WENT TO COLLECT THE DATA AND HAD A STUDY DONE TO JUSTIFY IF IT WAS A NEED FOR THE PETITION PROCESS IS JUST TO GET IT ON OUR RADAR TO START THE PROCESS, BUT AS NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE A PROJECT THAT GOES THROUGH TO APPROVAL. SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE IMPLEMENTED SO FAR WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER OKAY. THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE L CIRCLE REPAVING IS INCLUDED IN THE COMPLETION OF THE L CIRCLE REALIGNMENT. YES. OKAY. HOW ARE WE LOOKING WITH HOW ARE WE GOING TO QUANTIFY OUR STREETS SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO SHOW PEOPLE, MAYBE START THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, YOUR STREET WOULD BE PAVED IN 2026 OR 2027. BASED ON YOUR SCORE, WE CAN GIVE AN ESTIMATE. HOW ARE WE LOOKING WITH THAT PROJECT? SO WE PUT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON OUR LAST CONVERSATION. WE DID MAKE ALL THE FULL STUDY AND THE RESULTS OF EVERYTHING OF OUR PAVEMENT CONDITION STUDY. EVERYTHING IS ON PUBLIC WORKS WEBSITE TOO, BUT A LIST OF ALL THE STREETS AND WHAT THEIR RATING WERE. SO ALONG WITH OUR TRAFFIC CALMING PROCESS TO STUDY THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING COLOR CODED MAP FOR ALL THE STREETS IS ONLINE ON THE WEBSITE. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES THE STUDY GIVES AN IDEA OF BREAKDOWN OF THEIR RECOMMENDED FIVE YEAR PLAN. SO WE'VE KIND OF BEEN FOLLOWING THAT TO SOME EXTENT ON WHAT STREETS TO DO AND WHAT ORDER CAN YOU SEND ME THAT IN A PDF FORM? YES. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT REPAVING WASHINGTON ROAD IN YOUR 
          [02:35:11]
PRESENTATION. YES. DO WE HAVE A DO WE HAVE A PROPOSED DATE? WE DO THE KICKOFF MEETING WITH DDOT NEXT MONTH. SO AFTER THE KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR, THEY'LL THEN PROVIDE US A SCHEDULE. I'M ASSUMING IT WILL BE EARLY 2025, JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, BUT WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA AFTER WE MEET WITH THEM KIND OF GOING INTO THE WINTER SEASON. SO KIND OF DISCUSS WHAT SEQUENCE WE NEED TO DO AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE PROJECT. SO BUT WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT AWARDED. WE'RE JUST KICKING IT OFF WITH THE STATE AND THE CONTRACTOR NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU. WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. BUT WHAT I DON'T SEE ON HERE IS THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE. I KNOW THAT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, BUT SHOULDN'T THAT BE A PART OF THE UPDATE ON CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN PROJECTS? THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE? I'M SORRY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED. THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE? YES, THE GATEWAY AND THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE. YES. SO YES, THE REASON I WAS JUST DISCUSSING THAT RECENTLY WE WERE WORKING WITH FINANCE AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR THE SIGNAGE AND HOPEFULLY POTENTIALLY EVEN PUT IT IN OUR UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR BUDGET TO START THE PROJECT. MAYBE THE FIRST PHASE OF THE GATEWAY PROJECT TO PUT IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET, POTENTIALLY. AND THEN I KNOW AT LEAST WE CAN GET THE MAJOR GATEWAY SIGNS OUT FIRST, AND THEN TRY TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR IT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. YEAH, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE THAT IN THE UPDATE, ESPECIALLY LIKE COMING INTO OUR CITY AND THEN WHERE WE SHARE THAT LITTLE SIGN UP HERE, LEAVING COLLEGE PARK, COMING INTO EAST POINT. AND THE OTHER ONE WAS IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN A, IN A COMMUNITY IN WARD D ABOUT THE ALLIGATOR CRACKS IN LAKESIDE PRESERVE. SO I WOULD LIKE A TIMELINE OR AN UPDATE ON THAT. I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMUNITY SAID IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE DEPARTMENT MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO, SO I'LL NEED AN UPDATE ON THOSE ALLIGATOR CRACKS AND WHEN THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT RESIDE IN THAT COMMUNITY, PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. YES. AND WE'VE HAD A RESIDENT COME UP FROM COLONIAL HILLS A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS TALKING ABOUT THE ON AND OFF RAMP OF 166 ONTO KNOX AVENUE. I DON'T IS ARE YOU GUYS WORKING ON THAT OR DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, I'M AWARE THAT THE ISSUE IS THAT THE PAVING KNOX IN THAT AREA IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE STREETS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR PAVING LIST, BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING WE CAN DO PRIOR TO THAT JUST TO REMEDIATE THAT PROBLEM. I THINK WE HAD TO DIG UP SOME OF THE ROOFS THAT OFF EXIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? COUNCIL MEMBER? ZIEGLER. NOT AT THIS TIME. AND WE WILL GO TO THE DISCUSSION ON. THANK YOU ALL SO 
          [IV.33. Distance Requirements for Public Notification of Planning and Zoning]
MUCH ON PLANNING AND ZONING, PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. I THINK THAT'LL BE THE LAST STAFF ITEM. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES. AND THIS JUST SIMPLY PERTAINS TO OUR SECTION. I'M SORRY, MISS JESSIE. I'M SORRY. INTERIM CITY MANAGER. MISS JESSIE. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I HAVE THIS UP HERE ON THE AGENDA IS BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT 500FT IN THE ORDINANCE. WILL THE 500FT RADIUS AND ALSO THE 1000FT BOUNDARIES. BUT I JUST SIMPLY WANTED TO SUGGEST, BECAUSE MICROSOFT DID COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THE PROJECT WERE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE WERE WITHIN 500FT. BUT THE PROJECT IS CENTERED AROUND THREE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND ALSO COME TO FIND OUT AS THEY BEGIN TO BUILD OTHER COMMUNITIES WERE IMPACTED. SO I JUST WANTED DIRECTION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT ON JUST EXTENDING NOTIFICATION AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR, I GUESS, BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES THAT COME INTO SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES. JUST EXTENDING THE NOTIFICATION, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH MICROSOFT DID REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT ALONG BEN HILL ROAD, WE HAVE SAVANNAH WALK THAT'S BEEN 
          [02:40:02]
IMPACTED, HERITAGE PARK AND ALSO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN SUMMERLIN TRAIL. SO I JUST WANTED SOME DIRECTION ON THAT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUST INCREASING THE NOTIFICATION, BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE A WAREHOUSE INDUSTRY LIKE IN THE DUKE PARK, THAT THEY ONLY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PEOPLE WITHIN 500FT. WELL, IT'S HOUSES BEHIND THAT 500FT. SO I JUST WANTED MORE DIRECTION ON HOW CAN WE NOTIFY SHOULD WE RAMP IT UP FROM THE 500 TO 1000FT TO MAYBE ONE MILE OR TWO MILES? I'M JUST NOT SURE. BUT I DO KNOW THAT I LIVED OVER THERE WHERE MICROSOFT IS, AND I NEVER RECEIVED NOTIFICATION. I JUST HAPPENED TO BE RIDING BY AND I SAW THE SIGN. SO THAT'S THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS VERY QUICKLY. JUST SECTION TEN, DASH 2235. AND NOTIFYING PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. YES, MA'AM. KIM SMITH WILL DISCUSS THAT ITEM. THANK YOU. IN REFERENCE TO THAT SECTION OF THE CODE, IT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING, PART OF THE CODE, WHERE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT FOR ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT INDUSTRIAL, INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES HAVE TO HAVE 31,000FT FROM THE PROPERTY AND THIS EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE UP, WE JUST DID A RANDOM AREA FOR A BP, AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THAT'S COMING UP. AND TO YOUR POINT, IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO BE NOTIFIED. SO AS YOU SEE LAUREL PARK AND THERE'S SOME OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS 1000 FOOT AREA, THEY WOULD NEVER GET NOTIFIED THAT SOMETHING COULD POTENTIALLY BE COMING TO THAT. THAT VACANT, THAT LARGE VACANT LOT. BUT WHAT WE DID WAS PUT. A MILE, WHICH WAS A SUGGESTION AROUND THAT SAME PIECE. AND IT PICKED UP 2000 PARCELS, WHICH IN OUR OPINION IS, IS A IT'S A LOT. SO WE WERE WE WERE GOING TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DO RESEARCH ON WHAT TYPE OF RADIUS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. YEAH. BUT WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE DID LOOK, LOOK AT IT. AND WE NEED TO FIND A, A POLICY THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WHICH IS TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE AREA. SO A THOUSAND IS TOO SMALL, BUT A MILE IS TOO LARGE. SO WE NEED TO FIND A, A MIDDLE GROUND, SOME SORT OF MIDDLE GROUND BECAUSE THANK YOU. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO LEAVE IT TO THE EXPERTS. BUT WE DO NEED TO FIND I KNOW WE NEED TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND SO THAT EVERYONE IS NOTIFIED THAT IT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE IMPACTED. BUT THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. MORE THAN A THOUSAND. LESS THAN WHAT? 5780FT? 5280. I WAS CLOSE I REMEMBER THAT FROM THE INDUSTRIAL MORATORIUM. ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT THIS ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION? WHAT DO YOU WANT IT? I MEAN, IF IT'S COMING, DO YOU NEED JANUARY? NEXT. NEXT WORK SESSION SHOULD BE FINE. DECEMBER. WORK SESSION. OKAY. 
          GOT THAT. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK. NUMBER 33. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE FOUR MORE ITEMS. DEPARTMENTAL VACANCIES, DISCUSSION, LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM, CREDIT CARD POLICY AND INVESTIGATION, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS BEHAVIOR. BUT I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL OF STAFF. 
          [III.8. Departmental Vacancies Discussion]
SO DEPARTMENTAL VACANCIES DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS ALL RIGHT. YES. AND I WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE WERE JUST RUMORS FLOATING ABOUT HOW THE CITY HAD SO MANY VACANCIES. BUT I HAVE AN EMAIL HERE THAT LISTED THE TOTAL VACANCIES AT 115 OUT OF THE 646 BUDGETED POSITIONS, WHICH REPRESENTED AN 18% VACANCY RATE. BUT I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT WAS THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2024. SO I JUST WANTED THE ACCURATE NUMBERS 
          [02:45:06]
BECAUSE THERE WERE QUITE IT WAS QUITE A BIT OF MISINFORMATION JUST BEING PUT OUT THERE. SO YES, 19%. SO YEAH, THE DOCUMENT YOU SHARE IT WITH THE THANK YOU. YES, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. BUT ONE SECOND, MISS JESSIE. BUT I DID WANT TO SAY IS OUR LEADERSHIP DEPARTMENTS DO HAVE EMPLOYEES IN THEM LEADING THE DEPARTMENTS, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OUR LEADERSHIP ROLES ARE FILLED. THEY'RE NOT PERMANENTLY, PERMANENTLY FILLED, BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE IN THOSE ROLES. MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL TODAY BEFORE THE MEETING, GENERALLY GIVING YOU AN UPDATE OF THE VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT THIS IS ALWAYS A DATE AND TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY HIRING. 
          PEOPLE ARE LEAVING, PEOPLE ARE COMING. SO THE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE AND WE JUST PICK A POINT IN TIME TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION. MOST OF THE VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE ARE IN THE POLICE AND FIRE, AND EVEN GIVEN THOSE VACANCIES, YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AGAIN CONSTANTLY RECRUITING AND HIRING. SO THIS NUMBER IS SUBJECT TO BE DIFFERENT. MAYBE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. I KNOW FOR SURE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NUMBER WILL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I APPROVED AT LEAST SEVEN NEW HIRES TODAY. SO THESE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE AND WE'LL PROVIDE YOU ANOTHER UPDATE WITH MORE ACCURATE NUMBERS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, ON WHAT I SENT YOU TODAY JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE MOST OF THE VACANCIES ARE AS I SAID, POLICE AND FIRE. THE NEXT WOULD BE PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, WATER AND SEWER WITH 7% VACANCIES AND THEN CUSTOMER CARE WITH 6% VACANCIES. SO COUNCILMEMBER COMBS, YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION, MISS JESSIE. SO WITH THIS HERE, I KNOW THAT YOU SAY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING. PEOPLE ARE COMING. SO IS IT ANY WAY POSSIBLE? I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD OF A PUSH THIS WOULD BE, BUT MAYBE, IF POSSIBL, WE CAN GET JUST SOMETHING LIKE THIS. JUST A PRINTOUT. MAYBE ONCE A MONTH, MAYBE AT THE FIRST MEETING OR SOMETHING. AND IT JUST KIND OF TRACKS AND WE'LL SORT OF KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH REGARDS TO. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I MEAN AND I DON'T AND YOU KNOW, IT'LL JUST SOMETHING UPDATED FROM HERE. SO IF THEY. YES MA'AM THE 70 WE'RE DOWN TO WHAT THE 12. YEAH THAT'S 12. YES, MA'AM. FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF. IS THAT A HOW DO WE DO? IS THAT A ASK? WE COULD PUT STAFFING UPDATES. YES. SO ON THE LIKE WE DO UPDATE ON POLICING. OKAY. AT THE FIRST. YES, MA'AM. 
          WE DO THIS AT THE AT WORK SESSION. WE CAN PUT IT ON AS A WORK SESSION DISCUSSION. OKAY. 
          BUT YEAH, JUST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I CAN LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF PAPER. I KNOW WHAT IT SAID LAST MONTH. I CAN LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY. YES, MA'AM. DEFINITELY. CAN THAT BE DONE? EMAIL. WE CAN. YEAH. I TRIED. YEAH. YES. AND IF THERE'S SO THERE'S TWO WAYS. SO YES I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL PRIOR TO THE MEETING. BUT TWO IF IT'S A STANDING ITEM AND WE WANT HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THERE IF THE UPDATE IS FINE IT'S FINE. RIGHT. YES. AND WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS IT. BUT WE COULD JUST HAVE A PLACEHOLDER IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN THAT MISS JESSIE OR OUR OUR CITY MANAGER WANTS TO SHARE WITH US AS AN UPDATE. BUT YES, I AGREE, UPDATING THIS MONTHLY AND WRITING AS AN EMAIL WOULD BE 
          [02:50:06]
HELPFUL. I APPRECIATE GOING THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT AND SAYING HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN VACANT? AND ALSO THE WHY OR WHAT ACTIONS ARE BEING TAKEN. I THINK THIS WILL HELP US ACCURATELY TRACK VACANCIES. WE HAVE 646 POSITIONS BUDGETED AND. 120.5 VACANT. WERE YOU IN? NO. I'M OUT. THANK YOU. I NOTICE THAT THE END AND OTHER NOTES. IT SAYS TEN FULL TIME TEMPORARY POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, BUT NOT BUDGETED. AND THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO THE. PUBLIC WORKS FIELD. TECH ONE TEMP POSITIONS. WHAT IS HOW ARE THEY AVAILABLE BUT NOT BUDGETED. IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY WON'T GET PAID. NO, MA'AM. WHEN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION TO ADD DEDICATED STAFF TO ADDRESS LITTER, YOU ALL HAD ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS WITH THE FIRST SECOND READINGS OF THE BUDGET. SO IN ORDER TO GET THAT LITTER EFFORT UNDERWAY, THE CITY MANAGER, INTERIM CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME AUTHORIZED US FOR, I BELIEVE, TEN ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO BE ADDED TO DO LITTER. AND SO INSTEAD OF MAKING THOSE PEOPLE PERMANENT, THEY'RE BEING MADE. 
          THEY ARE TEMPORARY, FULL TIME, TEMPORARY. AND AS MR. REEVES SAID TONIGHT, TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK OUT IN REGARDS TO STAFFING, BUDGETING, WHAT'S GOING TO WORK, WHAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK BEFORE THE INDIVIDUALS ARE MADE PERMANENT. IF HE DEVELOPS AND YOU APPROVE A PLAN TO MAKE THIS, THIS AN INTEGRAL PART OF PUBLIC WORKS, THEN WE PROPOSE THAT THOSE PEOPLE OR SOME PEOPLE BE HIRED ON A PERMANENT BASIS. SO I GUESS THE BUT NOT BUDGETED PART IS WHAT'S CONFUSING ME. SO WHAT WHAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE FULL TIME TEMPORARY POSITIONS WE'RE USING? SALARY SAVINGS, SALARY SAVINGS? YES, MA'AM. OUT OF ALL OF THE POSITIONS THAT ARE BUDGETED IN THE CITY, THEY'RE NOT ALL FILLED. SO WE USE SALARY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. SO I THINK THAT IF FOR THIS NOTE, ESPECIALLY IF THIS DOCUMENT GOES OUT TO THE PUBLIC, IF IT SAID TEN FULL TIME TEMPORARY POSITIONS ARE BEING FUNDED THROUGH SALARY SAVINGS BUT ARE NOT CURRENTLY PERMANENTLY BUDGETED, OKAY. I THINK THAT'LL HELP CLEAR THAT UP BECAUSE WHEN I READ IT, I WAS JUST LIKE, ARE THEY WORKING FOR FREE? YES, MA'AM. WE CAN MAKE THAT NOTE. AND THEN I KNOW WE HAD RECEIVED THE EMAIL ABOUT 50 WORDS AND I SEE THAT ON HERE. IT SAYS THERE'S ONE VACANCY THERE. BUT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN. SHARE. AND I GUESS MAYBE AN ASK OR SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT 50 WORD SHOULD BE A PART OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FROM A BUDGET AND STAFFING PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A HIGHLY LEGAL PROCESS. AND SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS VACANCY STRUCTURE AND THAT DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S BEEN DRIVEN AT LEAST FROM A PRESENTATION PERSPECTIVE TO US BY THE PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY. AND IT IS A HIGHLY LEGAL PROCES. 
          AND MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT EVIDENCE IS READY FOR COURT AND THINGS HAPPEN AND SO I THINK THERE'S A CONCERN THAT THERE MAY BE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY. 
          OR ACCOUNTABILITY. I SHOULD SAY ACCOUNTABILITY. LEGAL HAS AN ACCOUNTABILITY FOR IT AND MAKING 
          [02:55:08]
SURE THAT LEGALLY IT HAPPENS. AND SO THE LEGAL CITY ATTORNEY IS A DEPARTMENT OUTSIDE OF OPERATIONS, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S APPOINTED BY US. AND SO I THINK IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO IT, WE CAN'T DO IT TONIGHT. WE DON'T TAKE A VOTE. 
          BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THAT CHANGE AND MAKE IT, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD DO A RESOLUTION TO TAKE FORMAL ACTION BY COUNCIL SAYING THAT THAT'S WHERE THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD GO, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, ANOTHER DIVISION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO US. SO. FOR 50 PROPERTIES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT OR OR LATER, BUT OUR CITY ATTORNEY SHARED THAT WITH US PREVIOUSLY. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TO KEEP IT IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. YES, MA'AM. RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TO MOVE THE 50 WORST PROPERTIES INITIATIVE TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? SO IF WE DO THAT, THAT WOULD MEAN THE BUDGET IN THOSE POSITIONS, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE UNDER LEGAL INSTEAD OF JUST A DEPARTMENT THAT IS CO-WORK TOGETHER WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, BUT NOT REALLY. IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD ALSO SEEK DIRECTION FROM HER? LIKE IS THERE SOMEONE TO MANAGE IT LIKE I KNOW IT'S UNDER LEGAL, BUT DOES THAT BELONG? DOES IT BELONG TO OKAY, SO IT'S A PART OF LEGAL. BUT I'M WITH THE 50 WORST PROPERTIES TEAM. ME AND THE 3 OR 4. SO THEY WOULD REPORT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. OKAY. BUT THEY WILL BE HOUSED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. NO, NO, PROBABLY NOT. THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM OVER THERE, BUT THEY WOULD. 
          IT WOULD BE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY. I THINK I YEAH. 
          SO WHAT COUNCIL'S APPETITE AND. THE CITY ATTORNEY WIGGINS HAD A FAMILY SITUATION TONIGHT. IT'S MORE STREAMLINED IF IT'S IN THAT DEPARTMENT. CORRECT. SHROPSHIRE I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER. I KNOW 50 WORDS STARTED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHERE IT ORIGINALLY STARTED FRO. 
          SO WITH THE HELP OF LEGAL. SO IN IN LEGAL PLAYS A BIG PART IN THE 50 WORDS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE COURT SOLICITOR AS WELL. SO IT PROBABLY WILL BE BEST TO MOVE IT OVER THERE BECAUSE IT PLAYS A BIG PART IN THE PROCESS AND HOW THINGS WORK. OKAY. WHAT WE COULD DO IS PUT IT ON THE AGENDA MONDAY FOR 50 WORST PROPERTIES. THE CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD BE HERE. WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION. OH, COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND. YES. THANK YOU. WHEN THIS WAS RAISED TO US, MISS JESSIE OR CITY ATTORNEY INDICATED THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WAS ASKING YOUR OFFICE TO DESIGNATE A LEAD AT LEAST FOR NOW. HAVE YOU HAD THAT CONVERSATION OR MADE THAT DECISION? WE HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY WIGGINS AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, DISCUSSED THIS, AND SHE IS GOING TO PUT TOGETHER WHAT HER NEEDS ARE, HOW SHE ENVISIONS THAT WORKING. AND THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE YET TO IDENTIFY IS SIMILAR TO WHAT MAYOR HOLIDAY INGRAM SAID ABOUT A PERSON WHO WOULD BE THE PROJECT MANAGER ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. THE CITY ATTORNEY EXPRESSED THAT SHE WOULD PROBABLY NEED A SOLICITOR AND SOME LEGAL STAFF. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WOULD NEED A CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK. THANK YOU. MISS JESSIE, WHEN DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD BRING THIS BACK? NEXT MONDAY OR FIRST MONDAY IN DECEMBER. LIKE WHEN DO 
          [03:00:11]
YOU WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER. WE'RE CHECKING ON HER SCHEDULE. OKAY, WELL, WE CAN. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH IT BEING PLACED ON MONDAY? IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT FOR, LIKE, BEING PLACED ON WHATEVER AGENDA THEY FEEL IT WOULD BE READY TO BE BROUGHT TO US. OKAY, SO, MISS JESSIE, YOU AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN JUST. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? NEXT DISCUSSION. 
          [III.9. Local Food Ecosystem]
COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM. YEAH. AND THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA A FEW WEEKS BACK. AND AS I RECALL, WE HAD BUDGETED THERE'S AN AMOUNT IN THE BUDGET FOR HIRING THE SORT OF MANAGER POSITION THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AND SO I GUESS THE DISCUSSION NOW IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THAT AMOUNT AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT SORT OF STAFF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ONE STAFF OR IS THERE SUPPORT STAFF? BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE BEYOND THAT INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION, THAT'S I'M FAILING TO RECALL THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE. MAKING SURE THEY INDICATED THE POSITION WAS BUDGETED. WE DIDN'T KNOW THE BUDGET AMOUNT. I KNOW THIS IS SHOWING UP AS A VACANCY IN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT. NEW POSITION THAT HASN'T BEEN POSTED. BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE. I JUST NOTICED THAT. SO I THINK, MISS JESSIE, DO YOU RECALL WHAT THE BUDGETED AMOUNT? YES, MA'AM. THE AMOUNT THAT WAS BUDGETED WAS FOR THE SALARY ONLY, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT $75,000. WE WOULD HAVE TO BUDGET BENEFITS. I'M NOT SURE THAT BENEFITS WERE INCLUDED, BUT I CAN CHECK TO BE SURE ABOUT THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST A 75,000, THAT'S ANTICIPATING A CONSULTANT RATE WITHOUT BENEFITS, THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT YOU ALL ASKED ME TO DO TO EXPLORE, WHETHER IT MADE MORE. IT WAS MORE EXPEDIENT TO HIRE A CONSULTANT AS OPPOSED TO A STAFF PERSON. AND AT THE TIME, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT PERSON WOULD GO IN TERMS OF THE DEPARTMENT OR THE EFFORT. SO I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EAST POINT CITY AGRICULTURAL PLAN AND THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION IN THAT PLAN FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE STAFFING. IT DIDN'T SAY ONE PERSON OR FIVE PEOPLE. IT JUST SAID STAFFING AND ACTUALLY, IN SPEAKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I DISCUSSED THIS WITH, ONE PERSON SAID, OH, I THINK A CONSULTANT WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE THAT PERSON THEN COULD CONTINUE TO EXPLORE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP TO DEVELOP THE CITY AGRICULTURAL PLAN WITHOUT BEING ENCUMBERED. AS A CITY EMPLOYEE. THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER PERSON WHO SAID, WELL, THEY THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE A CITY EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THE CITY EMPLOYEE THEN WOULD HAVE THE SUPPORT STAFF ALREADY BUILT IN. SO HERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WEIGHING THE PROS AND CONS OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK. WHICH ONE WOULD WOULD BE BETTER, A BETTER FIT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. SO I DON'T HAVE A CONCLUSION AT THIS POINT. MAINLY BECAUSE WE'RE STILL FIGURING OUT IF IT IS A STAFF PERSON. WHERE WOULD THAT PERSON GO? IT WAS, I THINK, MAYBE ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, SOMEWHERE IN 
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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE WAS NEVER A CONCLUSION. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO WORK THIS THROUGH AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU DURING THE WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER. THAT'S DEFINITELY FINE. BUT ON ON HERE, IT'S UNDER OFFICE OF EQUITY INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT ON THIS VACANCY SHEET. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AS A PLACEMENT PLACEHOLDER OKAY. YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELEY ANYTHING ELSE? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. WHAT WOULD THE PERSON'S DUTIES BE? DUTIES WOULD TO WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS PLAN IS REALLY A VERY EXCELLENT BLUEPRINT THAT ENCOMPASSES SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE CITY. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FOR ANY TYPE OF HOUSING INITIATIVE, THE USE OF VACANT LOTS SO IT IT PERMEATES THROUGHOUT THE CITY STRUCTURE, BUT GENERALLY IT WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT THE COMPONENTS IN THIS PLAN. MISS JESSIE RECOMMENDED BRINGING THIS BACK AT THE DECEMBER WORK SESSION. OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY. DECEMBER WORK SESSION. MADAM DEPUTY, CITY CLERK. NEXT WE HAVE 
          [III.10. City Credit Card Policy & Travel Policy]
THE TRAVEL AND CREDIT CARD, CREDIT CARD AND TRAVEL POLICY. CITY CLERK JUST PASSED OUT. A DOCUMENT THAT SHE AND SHE CONFERRED WITH THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT WHO REACHED OUT TO CITY ATTORNEY WIGGINS. AND SO IT IS IN THIS FORMAT BECAUSE IT IS A RED LINE VERSION OF OUR CURRENT EXISTING POLICY. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING IT SEPARATE, IT'S NOW A PART OF CONNECTED LIKE RED LINE, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO WE CAN SEE LIKE WHAT'S IN PLACE AND WHAT THE RED IS WOULD BE THE AMENDMENTS. SO 1 OR 2 OPTIONS I KNOW WE JUST GOT THIS TONIGHT. DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT TONIGHT. DO WE WANT TO LOOK OVER THIS. AND DISCUSS IT ON MONDAY. THE 18TH OR MONDAY DECEMBER 2ND OR AT THE DECEMBER 9TH WORK SESSION. SO TONIGHT, MONDAY THE 18TH OR DECEMBER 2ND OR DECEMBER 9TH. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T I'M NOT. I DON'T HAVE STRONG FEELINGS EITHER WAY ABOUT WHICH ONE. I JUST KNOW IT'S COME UP BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES. AND SO I WAS JUST GIVING ALL THOSE OPTIONS IN CASE THEY WANTED. YOU ALL WANTED TO BRING IT BACK EARLIER, BUT IF WE WANT TO JUST PUT IT ON THE DECEMBER WORK SESSION, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. ANYBODY? COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY? I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THIS IS JUST THE CREDIT CARD POLICY. THE TRAVEL CARD POLICY IS NOT HERE IS THAT THE TRAVEL? I'M SORRY, THE TRAVEL POLICY. 
          THIS IS JUST THE CREDIT CARD, RIGHT? I BELIEVE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN COMBINED. YES. THIS IS CREDIT CARD. BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE CAN HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY EXPLAIN TO US BY EMAIL. WHAT IF IT'S EMBEDDED IN HERE, LIKE SOME TRAVEL PROVISIONS ARE WITHIN HERE SUCH THAT IT WOULD BE ONE DOCUMENT? OR IF IT'S A THIS AND A TRAVEL POLICY AND WHY IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKET OR THIS? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? THE CITY ATTORNEY MISS MISS ATTORNEY CHERYL FREEMAN. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS 
          [03:10:08]
WAS THE POLICY THAT ATTORNEY WIGGINS HAD SUBMITTED BEFORE WITH THE REVISIONS. I CAN I CAN DOUBLE CHECK TO SEE IF THE TRAVEL POLICY WAS ALSO INTERTWINED IN THIS. BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT THAT SHE HAD SUBMITTED BEFORE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS ISSUE CAME UP BEFORE. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN RED ARE THE REVISIONS TO WHAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY IS. 
          THE LAST TIME IT WAS BEFORE US, IT WAS SEPARATE POLICIES IN THE CITY. CLERK MIGHT HAVE JUST MOVED THAT ITEM FORWARD WITH THOSE PREVIOUS ITEMS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M SPECULATING. I DON'T SEE TRAVEL. NO, NO. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S DEFINITELY IN HERE, BUT FROM THE AGENDA PERSPECTIVE, WHERE THERE WAS A CREDIT AND A TRAVEL WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO US PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD THEM SEPARATE. YEAH. AND SO THAT PROBABLY CAME FORWARD. THAT ITEM WITH THOSE TWO. BUT I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS MIGHT BE THE MOST UPDATED POLICY. AND I THINK ATTORNEY FREEMAN IS TRYING TO REACH OUT TO ATTORNEY WIGGIN. OKAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO THE BLACK TEXT IS THE EXISTING PREVIOUS TEXT AND THE RED TEXT IS ALL NEW. SINCE THIS DISCUSSION BEGAN. CORRECT. THE BLACK TEXT IS WHAT THE CURRENT POLICY IS. OKAY. THANKS. 
          DECEMBER NINTH WORK SESSION. OR DO WE WANT IT SOONER? JUST ON DECEMBER 9TH. I HEARD THE NINE THREE TIMES. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. NINTH. COUNCIL MEMBER. THE THREE OF YOU ALL. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. ZIEGLER. FREELY YOU WANT THE NINTH. THERE'S FOUR. SO FAR ON THE NINTH. NINE. OKAY. DECEMBER WORK SESSION. MADAM DEPUTY, CITY CLERK. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM I. 
          AND MADAM CITY CLERK. JUST MAKE SURE I HAVEN'T MISSED ANYTHING. DEPUTY CITY CLERK INVESTIGATION 
          [IV.34. Investigation into Coucilmembers Behavior]
AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BEHAVIOR. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT A COUNCIL PERSON HAS THAT A STAFF MEMBER HAS FILED AN ETHICS CHARGE AND ASKED COUNCIL TO INVESTIGATE THE BEHAVIOR OF A CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M BRINGING THIS FOR US FOR DISCUSSION AS TO HOW WE NEED TO HANDLE THAT AND WHAT WE DO, WHAT WE DID BEFORE IN TERMS OF INVESTIGATING. WHEN A PERSON HAS ASKED US TO DO THAT. THE ATTORNEY, WIGGINS, DID YOU TALK TO ATTORNEY WIGGINS ABOUT THIS TODAY? WE DID TALK ABOUT IT. AND THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SAY ABOUT IT IS IF THERE IS FOR AN INVESTIGATION TO HAPPEN, IT COULD BE THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE ETHICS PROCESS OR IF THERE ARE CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS, THEN IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR SOLICITOR. AND SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED I CAN'T GIVE ANY LEGAL ADVICE AS TO HOW YOU SHOULD PROCEED. BUT THOSE ARE YOUR TWO OPTIONS. EITHER ETHICS PROCESS OR IF THERE A CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS IT HAS TO GO THAT ROUTE. WELL, IN OUR ORDINANCE IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO AN INVESTIGATION. 
          A COUNCIL CAN DO AN INVESTIGATION BASED UPON THE ORDINANCE. IF THERE'S A VOTE OF COUNCIL TO DO THAT. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT, AS ONE PERSON SAID, IF THOSE TWO PEOPLE GET INTO IT AND THEN COUNCIL HAS BEEN NOTIFIED AND WE DID NOTHING THEN, NOW COUNCIL IS LEGALLY LIABLE FOR WHAT MAY HAPPEN. BUT AGAIN, THE MECHANISM THAT IS AVAILABLE IS THROUGH THE ETHICS PROCESS. AND IF THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS THAT SOMEONE DID SOMETHING CRIMINALLY, THEN YOU 
          [03:15:06]
HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR THE SOLICITOR SOLICITOR'S OFFICE. 
          BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOUR MECHANISM IS GOING TO BE THE ETHICS PROCESS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE CITY ATTORNEY IS NOT HERE, SO I'LL WAIT TILL SHE GETS BACK. BUT I CAN CITE THE ORDINANCE WHERE THE COUNCIL IS GIVEN PERMISSION TO DO INVESTIGATORY POWERS, AND IT DOES NOT STATE IN THAT THAT IT HAS TO BE A CRIMINAL OFFENSE OR GOING THROUGH THE ETHICS THING. 
          SO I'LL JUST HOLD STAND DOWN FOR THAT AT THIS POINT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE? MUST BE GOOD FOR THE GANDER. AND IF WE'VE INVESTIGATED OTHER PEOPLE BASED UPON EMAILS, THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO SERIOUSLY LOOK INTO THAT WHICH HAS BEEN SENT TO US, BECAUSE IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO NOT PROTECT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, EVEN WHEN WE DID THE SAME THING FOR THE CITY MANAGER. 
          SO I'LL WAIT. BUT THE CITY ORDINANCE DOES NOT SAY THAT. SO I'LL READ THE SECTION IN THE CHARTER THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. IS SECTION 2-202 INVESTIGATIONS AND INQUIRIES SAYS FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION OF AN AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAKE MAY MAKE INVESTIGATIONS AND INQUIRIES INQUIRIES INTO THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY AND THE CONDUCT OF ANY DEPARTMENT, OFFICE OR AGENCY THEREOF, AND FOR THIS PURPOSE MAY SUBPOENA WITNESSES, ADMINISTER OATHS, TAKE TESTIMONY AND REQUIRE THE PRODUCTION OF EVIDENCE. ANY PERSON WHO FAILS OR REFUSES TO OBEY A LAWFUL ORDER ISSUED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE EXERCISE OF THESE POWERS SHALL BE PUNISHED AS PROVIDED BY ORDINANCE. THE INITIATION AND CONDUCT OF ANY INVESTIGATION OR INQUIRIES BY THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER THIS CHARTER PROVISION SHOULD NOT BE DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE INTERFERENCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT, BY THE CITY MANAGER. SO I THINK THIS INVESTIGATION AND INQUIRY IS ABOUT ANY DEPARTMENT, OFFICE OR AGENCY AND NOT NECESSARILY COUNCIL. OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS NOT HERE AGAIN FOR FAMILY REASONS. TONIGHT, BUT SHE AND THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY SPOKE AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, I KNOW YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE THIS ITEM TO GO? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. WE CAN PLACE IT ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION. DECEMBER WORK SESSION. 
          YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. EXECUTIVE SESSION. OOPS. DO WE HAVE ANY FROM LEGAL? I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT FROM LEGAL. OKAY. FROM MISS JESSIE? NO, MA'AM. OH, FROM THAT, I'M LOOKING AT ALL OF YOU AND I SAID STAFF, I MEANT COUNCIL. ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS FROM COUNCIL PERSONNEL? PERSONNEL? ONE PERSONNEL. HOW DOES THIS WORK? OH. I WOULD I'M GOING TO SAY ONE REAL ESTATE. JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE AN UPDATE. AND IF NOT, WE CAN GET IT BEFORE WE BEFORE WE ADJOURN. I, I WAS ACTUALLY IN. OH, SORRY. ON TO ASK A QUESTION AND MY QUESTION WAS WOULD THAT. AND I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE HANDLED ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MY QUESTION WAS MY QUESTION WOULD HAVE BEEN WOULD AND COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, WOULD THAT BEEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM I I'M NOT CERTAIN IF WE SHOULD DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM OR NOT. SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION I DON'T KNOW. AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PREVIOUSLY. YEAH. BUT I THINK THOSE WERE PERSONNEL LIKE EMPLOYEES MAKING ALLEGATIONS AGAINST ANOTHER LEADER ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE, WHICH IS WHY WE COULD DO IT AS PERSONNEL. THIS IS AN ALLEGATION AGAINST THE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I WOULD SAY BASED UPON WHAT THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY SAID AND HER CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER'S DESIRE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IT ON THE WORK SESSION FOR DISCUSSION OR HAVE HER ON 
          [03:20:02]
MONDAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ON THE 18TH. IF IT CAN BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM, THEN HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY IN THE POSITION. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. IF THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED ON MONDAY, WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY RETURNS TO GIVE US A GUIDANCE ON DO WE HANDLE IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR DO WE DO IT IN THE OPEN? SO DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY FREEMAN, IF YOU COULD LET THE CITY ATTORNEY KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY WIGGINS KNOW THAT THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS DISCUSSION CAN BE HELD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND IF IT CAN, WE'LL DO IT ON THE 18TH. IF THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS PUBLICLY, THEN DECEMBER 9TH, COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. YES. THANK YOU. CAN WE DO IT THAT WAY? YES, MA'AM. IS THAT OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. YOU GOT IT. ATTORNEY FREEMAN I DO. OKAY, SO THE LEGAL WILL LET US KNOW. SO, EXECUTIVE SESSION SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE BRIEF. ONE PERSONNEL. AND I THINK. HOLD ON. LET ME LOOK AT MY PHONE. YEAH. THE OTHER ONES I THINK WE NEED, LIKE, SO ONE PERSONNEL AND ONE REAL ESTATE. FOR ONE, ONE FOR. YEAH. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR MOTION TO RECONVENE. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL 
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THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES MOTION TO APPROVE. EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          MEETING MINUTES. SPECIAL MEETING. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROP
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