[III.12. Council Review and Approval of Emergency Street Collapse Repairs on Piney Wood Drive Due to a Section of the Roadway that Failed While Performing Sewer Line Repairs. This is an Emergency Due to Life, Health or Safety Risk to the Public According to City Ordinance Section. 4-3306 Emergency Procurement. This Emergency Repair was Completed by Jewel of the South in the Amount Not to Exceed $214,634.11.]

NUMBER 12 GOING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO. ANY OBJECTION. TO NUMBER 13? GOING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? WE PROBABLY NEED A PRESENTATION ON THIS. WE NEED A PRESENTATION. ITEM NUMBER 14. 14 IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR 2928 PALM DRIVE? OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 15. WE NEED A PRESENTATION. IS STAFF READY FOR A PRESENTATION ON THIS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ITEM

[III.16. Council Review and Approval of Emergency Repair for Sweet Water Pump Motor #4 Which Failed Due to the Motor Control Needing to be Refurbished in Order to Keep the Plant Equipment Operational. This is an Emergency Due to Life, Health or Safety Risk to the Public According to City Ordinance Section. 4-3306 Emergency Procurement. This Emergency Repair was Completed by Georgia Pump in the Amount Not to Exceed $75,875.]

NUMBER 16. ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? GOING TO CONSENT? NO. EMERGENCY REPAIR. 17 WILL NEED TO DISCUSS AND POSSIBLY TAKE ACTION ON TONIGHT. NUMBER 18. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS.

YES. TONIGHT. NUMBER 19. ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? GOING TO CONSENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? PURCHASE OF CENTER CONSOLES? NUMBER 20. ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? GOING TO CONSENT IS PRETTY LARGE AMOUNT. PROBABLY NEED A PRESENTATION ON THIS. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE HEAR FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT RENOVATIONS. TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH WE HAVE SOME GUESTS HERE OR PARTNERS I WANT TO CALL THEM GUESTS. PARTNERS FROM 100 BLACK MEN OF SOUTH METRO. COMING TO SHARE. AND MADAM, DEPUTY CITY CLERK, COULD YOU TURN THE PODIUM

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BACK AROUND, PLEASE? EXCUSE ME, MADAM MAYOR. YES, COUNCILMAN. BUTLER. YES, MA'AM. AFTER YOUR PRESENTATIONS, DO YOU MIND IF I MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? WELL, IT'S A WORK SESSION. WE GENERALLY DON'T DO ANNOUNCEMENTS. WHAT ANNOUNCEMENTS DO YOU NEED TO MAKE? I HAD A NOTICE FROM THE FAMILY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THE PEOPLE TO BE INFORMED ABOUT. BRADDOCK HILL'S DEATH. IF I CAN MAKE THAT PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT WITH YOUR PERMISSION. I MEAN, I THINK THE SERVICES ARE NEXT WEEK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT AS FINE. NO, I I'M NOT SAYING I'M GOING TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT EITHER. IT'S JUST PRESENTATIONS. BUT ONCE THESE ARE DONE, GENERALLY ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA. BUT ONCE THE PRESENTATIONS ARE DONE, IF YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT. BUT THE SERVICES ARE NEXT WEEK, WHICH IS OUT AFTER OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

[III.11. Council Review and Approval to Revise the Fixed Sewer Tap Fee for Industrial & Commercial Businesses]

MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK. THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER HAS INFORMED ME THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR ITEM NUMBER 11 TO GO TO THE JANUARY WORK SESSION, THAT SHE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO GO TO THE

[II.2. 100 Black Men of South Metro, Inc. Rites of Passage Academy]

WORK SESSION. SO I'M GOING TO INVITE UP AT THIS TIME, MISTER PAUL VAUGHN AND CHRIS, WOULD COOPER COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME TO SHARE A PRESENTATION ON THE 100 BLACK MEN OF SOUTH METRO RITES OF PASSAGE ACADEMY? THERE'S ALSO ASKED THE 100 BLACK MEN HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK IN EAST POINT, BUT MORE THAN THAT HAVE GIVEN A LOT OF SERVICE TO OUR YOUTH WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY IN EAST POINT AND IN THE REGION. SO THEY ARE WANT TO SHARE WITH US THEIR RITES OF PASSAGE ACADEMY PROGRAM, AND THEN ALSO MAKE AN ASK OF COUNCI, PRESS THAT BUTTON RIGHT THERE ON THE BASE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US. I'M CHRISTOPHER COOPER, AND OF COURSE, THIS IS PAUL VAUGHN. AND ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO, I WAS JUST ELECTED TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE 100 BLACK MEN OF SOUTH METRO. OUTSIDE OF MY BOARD APPOINTMENT, I HAVE THE AWESOME PLEASURE AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF OUR RITES OF PASSAGE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY, ONE OF OUR FLAGSHIP PROGRAMS THAT HELPS SHAPE YOUNG MEN INTO FUTURE LEADERS THROUGH MENTORSHIP, EDUCATION, AND LIFE SKILLS TRAINING. THE 100 BLACK MEN OF AMERICA WAS FOUNDED IN 1963 WITH A MISSION TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND ENHANCE EDUCATIONAL AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS. FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS. OUR CHAPTER RIGHT HERE IN SOUTH METRO ATLANTA HAS AMPLIFIED OUR MISSION BY SERVING AS A BEACON OF LEADERSHIP IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE COLLECTIVELY LEVERAGE OUR DIVERSE TALENTS TO CREATE ENVIRONMENTS WHERE CHILDREN ARE MOTIVATED TO ACHIEVE AND EMPOWER INDIVIDUALS TO BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT SHAREHOLDERS IN THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITIES. OUR COMMITMENT IS GROUNDED IN THE INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF YOUTH AND THE ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT OF AFRICAN AMERICANS, GUIDED BY CORE VALUES OF RESPECT FOR FAMILY, SPIRITUALITY, JUSTICE AND INTEGRITY. THESE PRINCIPLES DRIVE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FROM MENTORSHIP TO LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, ENSURING A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR ALL WE SERVE. LOCALL, WE OPERATE TWO IMPACTFUL MENTORSHIP PROGRAMS, ONE BEING THE RITES OF PASSAGE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY AND THE OTHER BEING OUR MIRROR MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. THROUGH MENTORSHIP AND INTENTIONAL GUIDANCE, WE'VE HELPED OUR YOUNG MEN ACHIEVE OVER $7 MILLION IN SCHOLARSHIPS, SECURE INTERNSHIPS WITH FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, AND DEVELOP INTO CONFIDENT SERVICE ORIENTED LEADERS. THROUGH THESE INITIATIVES AND THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE COALITION OF THE 100 BLACK WOMEN, WE OFTEN SERVE UP TO 70 OR 80 YOUNG PEOPLE AT A TIME IN OUR SATURDAY SESSIONS.

WHILE THIS LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT IS INSPIRING OUR CURRENT OFFICE SPACE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET IN THE BUGGY WORKS PLAZA HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT SMALL AND CANNOT EFFECTIVELY ACCOMMODATE THE SCALE OF OUR PROGRAMING. OUR PROGRAMS HAVE PRODUCED LIFE CHANGING RESULTS. FOR EXAMPLE,

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JEAN CRUNK WAS A PAST NATIONAL MENTEE OF THE YEAR. HE EXEMPLIFIES WHAT IS POSSIBLE WHEN YOUNG MEN ARE GIVEN MENTORSHIP AND OF COURSE, OPPORTUNITY. THROUGH OUR GUIDANCE, HE HAS ACHIEVED ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, EARNED SIGNIFICANT SCHOLARSHIPS AND NOW IS A COMMUNITY LEADER IN HIS OWN RIGHT. PAUL VAUGHN, WHO MANY OF YOU KNOW IS A PAST CHAPTER PRESIDENT AND WAS ALSO AWARDED MENTOR OF THE YEAR NATIONALLY FOR HIS COMMITMENT TO THE WORK AND POURING INTO THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN. DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR SAID, LIFE'S MOST PERSISTENT AND URGENT QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR OTHER? THAT QUESTION INSPIRES EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AT THE 100 BLACK MEN OF SOUTH METRO ATLANTA. AND NOW WE HUMBLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN ANSWERING THAT CALL. AS OUR PROGRAMS CONTINUE TO GROW, SO DOES THE NEED FOR ADEQUATE SPACE TO HOST LARGER EVENTS LIKE CAREER EXPOS, YOUTH LEADERSHIP SUMMITS, AND STEM WORKSHOPS. WE ENVISION A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF EAST POINT TO PROVIDE VENUES THAT ALLOW US TO EXPAND OUR IMPACT. SUPPORTING OUR EFFORTS WILL NOT ONLY ENRICH THE LIVES OF EAST POINT AND SOUTH METRO ATLANTA YOUTH, BUT ALSO STRENGTHEN OUR SHARED COMMUNITY FABRIC. TOGETHER, WE CAN ENSURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR REGION SEE A PATH TO SUCCESS. SUPPORTED BY MENTORS LIKE MYSELF AND MISTER VAUGHN, WHO BELIEVE IN THEIR POTENTIAL. SO I STAND HUMBLY BEFORE YOU TODAY AND INVITE YOU TO JOIN US ON THIS MISSION BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR OUR PROGRAMS AND BECOMING AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR TRANSFORMATIVE JOURNEY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, ATTENTION, AND CONSIDERATION AS WE COLLECTIVELY EXPLORE HOW THE CITY OF EAST POINT CAN HELP US CONTINUE TO BUILD BRIGHTER FUTURES TOGETHER. THANK YOU. SO ULTIMATELY, AS YOU HEARD, WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR USE OF THE ANNEX OR OTHER VENUES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE IN BUGGY WORKS, SO USUALLY WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT WHAT, 35 TO 40 PEOPLE COMFORTABLY. BUT THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND THE GROWING OF OUR LEADERSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, WE NEED ADDITIONAL SPACE LIKE WE USE THE ANNEX RECENTLY. AND THAT WAS LIKE A PERFECT SIZE AS WE ARE PARTNERING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND WORKING WITH YOUNG WOMEN AND YOUNG MEN. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE RESOURCES OF THE CITY TO IMPACT THESE YOUTH. AND WE HAVE THE DATES. YES, YES, YES, WE HAVE A LIST. SO WE TYPICALLY MEET ON THE FIRST AND THIRD SATURDAY OF EACH MONTH. I HAVE A DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE LIST OF THEM NOW OR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE DATES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE STARTING 1221, WE HAVE JANUARY 4TH, 2025, WE HAVE SATURDAY THE 18TH OF JANUARY IN 2025. WHY DON'T WE SWITCH IT. WE'LL SWITCH IT OUT FEBRUARY THE FIRST, 2025 FEBRUARY THE 15TH, 2025 MARCH THE 1ST, 2025 MARCH THE 15TH, 2025 AND MARCH THE 29TH, 2025 AND THEN THE LAST ONE FOR THIS COHORT YEAR IS APRIL THE 12TH, 2025. NOW WE DO START PROGRAMING AGAIN IN AUGUST, SO THE NEXT COHORT WILL WILL BEGIN IN AUGUS. AND WHAT TIME WE GENERALLY MEET FROM 10 A.M. TO 1 P.M. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I GUESS THIS IS MORE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO WITH MISS IRIS COMES BACK, I'LL ASK HER ABOUT OUR AVAILABILITY. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CHIEF CONCERN WOULD BE. THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE NORMALLY WORKS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SCHEDULE THE ANNEX. SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE DATES, WE CAN VERIFY THE AVAILABILITY AND GET BACK IN TOUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK FOR TONIGHT, IT WAS SHARING INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL AND THE DATES AND TIME THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE IT. AND ALSO TO GET THE AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND STAFF AND CITY INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH THEM REGARDING AN MOU THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE DATES AND TIME AVAILABILITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I THINK SOMETIMES WHAT'S HELPFUL, INSTEAD OF LOCKING IN SPECIFIC DATES, IT'S LIKE A NUMBER OF SESSIONS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN. AND IF THE MOU SAYS SPECIFIC DATES, THAT'S LIKE REQUIRING US TO AMEND IT. BUT REALLY IT WAS TO SHARE FOR COUNCIL TO HEAR FROM THEM AND THEN TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY OBJECTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. INTERIM CITY MANAGER WORKING WITH THEM ON AN

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MOU. THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL, IDEALLY MONDAY IF POSSIBLE. BUT IF NOT, WE ALSO HAVE THE WHEN. WHEN IS THE FIRST SESSION, THE NEXT ONE IS THE 21ST OF DECEMBER. OF DECEMBER? YES. YOU ALL ARE ASKING FOR THE DECEMBER LOCATION. WE DID HAVE THAT DATE USAGE AS WELL. WE DID HAVE THAT DATE. YES. SO YEAH, THE 16TH WOULD BE OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE MOU AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE APPROVED. UNDERSTOOD. THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. YES. SO THESE ARE SATURDAY DATES, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND SO THIS IS A QUESTION OF STAFF. MISS JESSIE IS THE ANNEX NORMALLY OPEN ON SATURDAYS AS WELL? AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE YOUR ASK COULD BE NOT JUST SPACE BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PERSONNEL THERE ALSO. YES. WELL THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE NEED IS JUST THE AV, JUST OUR CONNECTION TO THE AV. RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM EAST POINT TO OPEN. CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S IS THAT SPACE ALWAYS OPEN ON SATURDAY OR WILL WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE PERSONNEL THERE FOR TO ALLOW THEM ACCESS? WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE THERE TO HANDLE THE AV AND ALSO IT IS THE HEADQUARTERS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO IT'S ALREADY OPEN. YES. OKAY. BUT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITY CLASSES THAT ARE SCHEDULED. SO. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL CHECK ON THE CALENDAR OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND GIVEN THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FIRST DATE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS JUST THIS MONTH AND SO WOULD YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING? DOES THIS GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO DO THOSE THINGS? ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN CHECK ON THE DATE TOMORROW AND MADAM MAYOR TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPING THE MOU TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR NEXT MONDAY'S MEETING. SO I FEEL SURE WE CAN HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE TV AND FILM PRODUCTION, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT MOU THAT WE HAVE, WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING THE SPACE AND OTHER MOUS THAT WE HAVE FOR USAGE OF THE ANNEX. TO START WITH, I THINK THE AEROTROPOLIS ATLANTA ALLIANCE ALSO DOES A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM THERE. SO WE COULD START WITH THAT. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. AND WE WILL PUT IT ON. THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. SO YOU ALL CAN JUST PRESENT AND AS AN AGENDA ITEM, NOT A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MR. VAUGHN, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THIS. I THE ORGANIZATION I ACTUALLY STARTED 50 YEARS AGO, ALONG WITH A FAMOUS YOUNG MAN BY THE NAME OF JACKIE ROBINSON.

THAT'S HOW THIS WHOLE THING GOT STARTED. IT'S BASED OFF OF FIVE PILLARS. BUT AS I SAY THAT FOR A REASON, AS I TRAVEL THE COUNTRY, AS I TRAVEL THE WORLD NOW WE HAVE 107 CHAPTERS AND THERE'S 125,000 YOUNG MEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM, AND 10,000 MEN THAT ARE MENTORS ON THE LADIES SIDE OF 66,000 YOUNG LADIES AND 6000 6600 YOUNG WOMEN THAT ARE MENTORING ALSO. BUT AS I SAY THAT AS I TRAVEL THIS COUNTRY, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. THERE ARE COUNCILS LIKE THIS THAT ARE NOT THIS EASY TO WORK WITH OR POSITIVE OR SUPPORT. I'M JUST TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. AND YOUR MAYOR, SHE'S A JEWEL AND YOUR STAFF. EVERYONE WE'VE EVER WORKED FROM MISS SHROPSHIRE ALL THE WAY TO DOCTOR ROGERS. THE ONES THAT I KNOW ALREADY. BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE. AND CITY OF EAST POINT. EAST POINT IS BLESSED BECAUSE NOT ONLY THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THE LEAST OF US. AND YOU CAN CALL THEM AT. I HADN'T TRIED THIS YET, BUT YOU CAN CALL THEM AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING, 7:00 IN THE MORNING, OR 11 OR 12:00 AT NIGHT. THEY'RE THERE AND THEY GET YOU AN ANSWER BACK. SO THEY CARE ABOUT THE LEAST TO THE MOST. THEY'RE THEY'RE PHENOMENAL. YOU'RE PHENOMENAL GROUP OF PEOPLE TO WORK WITH. SO YOU'RE BLESSED TO HAVE YOUR YOUR MAYOR AND I JUST WANT TO PASS THAT ON. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM, MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE POINT IN

[II.1. Fulton County's Continuum of Care 2024 Point in Time Count]

TIME COUNT. I BELIEVE THIS IS. WE'VE DONE THIS. MAYBE 3 OR 4 YEARS. SO ANNUALLY. HOLD ON A MINUTE. MY ANNUALLY, THE FULTON COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE DOES A POINT IN TIME COUNT. AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES CONTINUUM OF CARE TO CONDUCT POINT IN TIME COUNTS AS A MEANS OF DETERMINING FEDERAL FUNDING TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS. ENCOURAGE AND ENCOURAGES AN ANNUAL COUNT. THE COUNT DATA CREATES A SNAPSHOT OF THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF

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HOMELESSNESS, WHICH PROVIDES POLICYMAKERS AND FUNDERS WITH CRUCIAL INFORMATION ON THE NUMBER AND DEMOGRAPHIC CHARACTERISTICS OF HOMELESS CITIZENS. THE FULTON COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE IS DESIGNED TO PROMOTE FULTON COUNTY CITIES, EXCLUDING ATLANTA COMMUNITY WIDE COMMITMENT TO ENDING HOMELESSNESS PROVIDE FUNDING FOR NONPROFITS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO QUICKLY REHOUSE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES. PROMOTE ACCESS TO MAINSTREAM PROGRAMS FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, AND OPTIMIZE SELF-SUFFICIENCY AMONG INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. THE ATLANTA'S COUNT CONTINUUM OF CARE IS INDEPENDENT FROM FULTON COUNTY'S CONTINUUM OF CARE, AND EXCLUSIVELY SUPPORTS THE WORK IN ATLANTA. AND SO WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN WHAT PARTICIPATION HAS MEANT FOR US.

I'VE ACTUALLY GONE OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THEM, WITH THEM, AS THEY WERE COUNTING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITHIN THE CITY AND IN THE SOUTH. FULTON AREA. BUT ALSO OUR CITY ANNEX HAS BEEN THE PLACE WHERE THEY PROVIDE THE TRAINING AND THE PLACE WHERE THEY CONVENE ON THE NIGHT OR NIGHTS WHEN THEY'RE GOING OUT TO CANVASS THE AREA. AND SO THEY ARE ASKING THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO UTILIZE OUR CITY ANNEX. AGAIN, THIS YEAR. AND SO THE EVERY YEAR I'VE ASKED JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT YEAR, I THINK THIS WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE THIS WORK IS IMPORTANT AND US BEING ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY IN THIS IMPORTANT WORK, I THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE OR AGREE TO ALLOW OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND INTERIM CITY MANAGER OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH AN MOU. SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING ANNUAL. WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK EACH YEAR TO ASK FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE SPACE. THIS YEAR, THE DATE THAT THEY HAVE IT. SO IT HAPPENS IN JANUARY AND THE DATE THAT THEY HAVE IN MIND OR DATES IS JANUARY. THE 22ND, FROM 4:30 P.M. TO 3:00 AM. THEY HAVE AROUND CLOSE TO 100 PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER. THEY WOULD NEED SUPPORT WITH TABLES AND CHAIRS AND STAFF IS ENSURED THAT THOSE THAT EQUIPMENT WOULD BE THERE IN THE PAST AND AGAIN, I THINK ONE YEAR WE ALSO HOSTED THE TRAINING. SO THEY DO TRAINING FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY GO OUT WITH THEM AS WELL. AND SO TONIGHT IS TO BRING THIS ANNUAL PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE DONE BACK TO COUNCIL, AND THEN TO ASK THAT OR SEE IF ANYONE HAS AN OBJECTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER WORKING WITH THE FULTON COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE ON AN MOU THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN ANNUALLY. NO COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. IS THAT A MOTION OR. WELL, TONIGHT IS IF ANYONE HAS ANY OBJECTION, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT. BUT REALLY WE NEED THE STAFF TO WORK WITH THEM TO BRING IT BACK TO US LIKE WE JUST DID WITH THE 100 BLACK MEN.

OKAY, WELL, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THE ASK FOR TONIGHT SO WE CAN HAVE MORE INFORMATION. OKAY. SO THAT'S FINE. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. SO, MADAM MAYOR IS THE IN TERMS OF YOUR ASK FOR OR DIRECTIVE FOR STAFF TO WRITE THE MOU. DRAFT MOU, WE'RE SPEAKING OF THE SPACE, THE USE OF SPACE AND THE USE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S ALREADY ON HAND. SO IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, IF THERE ARE OTHER NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE, WE WON'T BE COMMITTING TO THAT. BUT WE'LL BE COMMITTING TO PROVIDING THE SPACE AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON HAND. OKAY. AND I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

IF THEY NEEDED SOMETHING ADDITIONAL, WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO SHARE THAT UPDATE WITH COUNCIL. BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS EITHER OUR THIRD OR FOURTH YEAR, AND IT'S JUST REALLY BEEN THE SPACE, THE TABLES AND CHAIRS. AND THEY BRING IN ALL THE STAFF, ALL OF THEY HAVE VANS AND STUFF THAT THEY DRIVE PEOPLE AROUND IN. IF THEY DO TRAINING, THEY'LL USE OUR AUDIO VISUAL. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT MIGHT NOT ARISE. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS YES, I WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. IS ANYONE IN FOR? WELL, SO I THINK FOR TONIGHT WE JUST WANT TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY OBJECTION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND, AND THEN WE'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY WITH THE POTENTIAL MOU FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE SPACE AGAIN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT DID I SAY JANUARY 25TH, 10TH, MAY 22ND, 2025. ANOTHER QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS AND MADAM MAYOR, HOW LONG IS THE CITY OF EAST POINT HAD THIS PARTNERSHIP? 3 OR 4 YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU

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ALL SO MUCH. WE WILL NOW GO TO I THINK WE HAVE. ITEM 14. WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE. EXCUSE ME.

MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THIS BREAKING THE QUORUM TO MAKE THIS ANNOUNCEMEN. EXCUSE ME. MISS, WITH SAD WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I ANNOUNCED THAT OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE STEPHANIE GORDON'S FATHER, JOHN E GORDON SENIOR, PASSED ON DECEMBER 8TH IN THE MORNING FROM A ILLNESS. AND THE SERVICES WILL BE HELD IN ALABAMA ON FRIDAY.

AND WITH SHARON SHROPSHIRE'S, COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE'S PERMISSION, I KNOW SHE WAS WAS MADE AWARE OF THIS TOO. WE HAD ANOTHER DEATH OF A STALWART IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND IT WAS ASKED OF BOTH OF US. SO I'M GOING TO INCLUDE HER WITH HER, WITH HER PERMISSION TO READ THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. BASED FROM THE FAMILY, THE EAST POINT PRINTING COMPANY ANNOUNCES THE DEATH OF FOUNDER BRADDOCK HILL DECEMBER 9TH, 2024. IS WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT WE ANNOUNCE THAT BRADDOCK HILL TRANSITIONED ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5TH AFTER A BRIEF ILLNESS. ALONG WITH HIS WIFE, CAROLYN, BRADDOCK FOUNDED THE EAST POINT PRINTING COMPANY IN EAST POINT, GEORGIA IN 1979.

A NATIVE OF FAYETTEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA, BRADDOCK WAS A DEVOTED HUSBAND, FATHER, CHURCH SERVANT, AND COMMUNITY LEADER. WITH A CULMINATION OF OVER 60 YEARS IN THE PRINTING INDUSTRY, MR. HILL ENDURED SERVICE IN THE EAST POINT COMMUNITY FOR OVER 35 YEARS. HIS CLIENTS INCLUDES LOCAL, NATIONAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, CLERG, ETC. A MEMORIAL GUEST BOOK IS AVAILABLE AT EAST POINT PRINTING, 2759 CHURCH STREET, EAST POINT, GEORGIA, 30344 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10:10 A.M. TO 6 P.M. FOR ALL THOSE TO SHARE THEIR MESSAGES OF CONDOLENCES. HIS FUNERAL WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, 2024. AND SO WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE'S PERMISSION. AND THE FAMILY WANTED US TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNEW THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS BREAK IN THE QUORUM. MAKE THOSE SAD ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE PEOPLE OF EAST POINT. DEFINITELY OUR DEEPEST SYMPATHY AND CONDOLENCES TO FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE GORDON ON THE TRANSITIONING OF HER FAMILY AND HER FATHER, AND TO THE HILL FAMILY AND ON THE TRANSITIONING OF MR. BRADDOCK HILL, WHO WAS DEFINITELY A PILLAR IN OUR COMMUNITY AS THE COMMUNITY. JOIN US IN PRAYERS FOR PEACE, STRENGTH AND COMFORT FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME. WE. ITEM NUMBER 14 THAT HAS SOMEONE, A NON STAFF PERSON HERE. THERE'S AN APPLICANT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT HAVE NON STAFF. MISS JESSIE? NO. MADAM MAYOR OKAY SO WE WILL I SEE A LOT OF GUESTS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY'RE NOT ON ANY OF THESE OTHER CONTRACTS OR ITEMS. OKAY.

[III.14. P2024RZ-006-08 Rezoning Request for Property Located at 2928 Palm Drive from R1-A District to R-3 District (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED) Presented by: Planning & Community Development]

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GO FIRST. WE'LL START WITH ITEM 14 THOUGH. STAFF WILL COME UP FIRST AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW. MISS SMITH.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IN REFERENCE TO REZONING CASE NUMBER P2024-006-08. IT'S A REZONING REQUEST. IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2928 PALM DRIVE. THE REQUEST IS A REZONING FROM R1 TO R3 FOR DUPLEX SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY. THE CURRENT ZONING OF

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THE PROPERTY IS R1, A, WHICH IS OUR URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S A PICTURE OF THE PARCEL MAP. THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD CLASSIFICATION, AND SOME OF THE TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S R1, RL, R1, A, R, T TWO, AND R3. THE USE AND SCALES FOR LIMITED MULTI-FAMILY DUPLEX, TRIPLEX AND QUADPLEX. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THIS REZONING FROM R1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL, TO R3 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, AT THE OCTOBER 17TH, 2024 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THE STAFF ALSO RECOMMEND DENIAL. YES, STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL AS WEL. WHAT'S THE APPLICANT'S NAME AGAIN? MR. KEITH LOGAN, MR. LOGAN, IF YOU LIKE BOTH STAFF AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE'VE GOT SOME STAFF AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL. SO IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SHARE ANY INFORMATION WITH COUNSEL, YOU CAN AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. MY NAME IS KEITH LOGAN. AND AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS 2928 PALM DRIVE ORIGINALLY. OR AS IT STANDS NOW, IT IS ALL ONE. BUT I WAS REQUESTING FOR A REZONING TO BE R3 BECAUSE THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES ON THE PARCEL. SO MY SON RESIDES IN THE FRONT HOUSE AND THEN IN THE REAR HOUSE IS BASICALLY AN APARTMENT UPSTAIRS APARTMENT. AND BEFORE IT WAS UNDER CONTRACT FOR SALE. BUT THEY COULD NOT GET THE FINANCING BECAUSE OF THE ZONING ISSUE, SO THEY WOULD ONLY RECOGNIZE JUST IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY AND NOT AS A DUPLEX PROPERTY. SINCE THEN, THE SALE FELL THROUGH, WHICH I'M I'M GLAD IT DID BECAUSE I DO WANT TO KEEP THE PROPERTY, BUT I DO PLEAD WITH THE COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE ZONING BECAUSE IT'S REALLY AFFECTING THE BOTTOM DOLLAR AS FAR AS THEIR ONLY RECOGNIZING JUST A SINGLE PROPERTY THAT I, YOU KNOW, INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY INTO.

AND I CANNOT GET ANY FUNDING WITH IT'S ZONED AS A EVEN RECOGE BACK UNIT. SO I'M PLEADING WITH THE SO AND I'M WORKING OUT SOMETHING WITH MY SON TO BE ACTUALLY TO BE ABLE TO BUY THE PROPERTY FOR ME. SO AS SOON AS HE GETS SOME OF HIS SCHOOL DEBTS PAID DOWN, THAT'S THE GOAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SMIT. HOW LONG IS THE OTHER UNIT BEEN IN THE BACK? AND IS IT? NO. MISS SMITH FROM PLANNING AND ZONING. HOW LONG IS THE OTHER UNIT BEEN IN THE BACK, AND IS IT LARGER THAN THE 50% OF THE MAIN HOUSE SUCH THAT IT WOULDN'T BE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING STRUCTURE? I MEAN, I CAN I'M SORRY. LET ME CHECK IN THE COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. I'LL COME TO YOU WHEN I STARTED THE QUESTIONING, THERE WERE NO THERE WAS NO ONE IN. SO I'LL COME TO YOU IN A SECOND.

TAKE YOUR TIME. THIS IS LARGER, AND IT DOES PREDATE THE OCTOBER 2007. SO THAT'S HOW.

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63 THE TAX RECORDS, FULTON COUNTY TAX RECORDS PROVIDES FOR THIS PROPERTY AS MULTIFAMILY, IT RECOGNIZES, IS AT AS MULTIFAMILY. AND IT WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE WE WERE HERE, PROBABLY BEFORE ALL OF US WERE HERE. SO IT'S IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE PRIOR TO US BEING HERE. AND SO THE HISTORY OF IT. AS A SINGLE FAMILY WITH A WITH A DUPLEX IN THE BACK, IT PREDATES AS. SO WHEN I LOOK AT IT ON EITHER GOOGLE MAPS, IT'S SHOWING A YELLOW HOUSE. IS THAT STILL THE CURRENT STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE? IS THIS HAS THIS ALREADY BEEN RENOVATED? THE HOUSE HAS ALREADY BEEN RENOVATED. STAFF DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A SITE VISIT, AND THE HOUSE HAS BEEN UPDATED AND RENOVATED. IT'S A WHITE HOUSE. BOTH STRUCTURES ARE WHITE AND THEY'VE BEEN RENOVATED. SO WAS THIS ON A PREVIOUS AGENDA? AND GOT MOVED OVER? I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT. I REMEMBER WAS ON NOVEMBER'S. THIS WAS NOVEMBER'S THIS WAS ON NOVEMBER'S MEETING FOR A REZONING AND THE APPLICANT WAS NOT PRESENT. AND SO BEFORE ANY DECISIONS AND ACTIONS WERE TAKEN BY THIS BOARD, WE RECOMMENDED TO DEFER IT TO TODAY SO THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DETAILS. SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY COUL MEMBER ATKINS. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? SO WHY WOULDN'T THIS JUST BE A SIMPLE NONCONFORMING. WE BRING IN THE CODE. I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME? THE ZONING UP TO CONFORMING USE. BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED IN THAT MANNER BASED UPON WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND BASED UPON THE RENOVATED PICTURES. SO WHY WOULDN'T THE STAFF GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS JUST TO BRING THIS INTO CONFORMING USE FOR THE ZONING AS OPPOSED TO JUST DENYING IT? STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE IT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND ACTION WOULD BE HAVE TO HAVE TO BE TAKEN BY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE REZONING. LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION. WE'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE PROPERTIES NEEDED TO BE REZONED IN ORDER TO COME UP TO THE CURRENT ZONING, BUT IT WAS A NON-CONFORMING USE AND WE WERE JUST MAKING IT CONFORMING. AND THE REASON WHY WE DO THAT IS PER WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID, SO THAT HE CAN GET FINANCING, OR SO THAT HE CAN EVEN GET THE PROPERTY INSURED.

SO WHY WOULD THE STAFF NOT RECOMMEND, AS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST, THAT? BUT THIS IS JUST A PROPERTY THAT NEEDS TO COME IN CONFORMING USE WITH THE ZONING IS THERE. I'M TRYING TO RECONCILE THE DIFFERENCE HERE BECAUSE TO WHAT? BASED UPON YOUR TESTIMONY, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THIS PREDATES US. YOU KNOW, THE RENOVATION, THE ADDITION OF THE HABITABLE STRUCTURE IN THE REAR. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? THE DIFFERENCE IN WHY YES, WE AE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THIS UP TO CONFORMING USE AS AN IMPASSE. WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT MADE YOU NOT DO THAT AT THIS TIME, BASED ON THE ANALYSIS AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES? IT'S MULTIFAMILY. IT COULD APPEAR THAT WE'RE SPOT ZONING BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED BY R-1, A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SMALL BUNGALOW TYPE OF HOMES AND SO FOR THOSE PURPOSES, WE WENT WITH THESE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. WE'VE ALLOWED PROPERTIES ALL OVER THE CITY TO PUT IN HABITABLE STRUCTURES IN THE REAR, OR ADD IT TO THE PROPERTY. VIEWING THE PICTURES, I DON'T SEE WHY THIS WOULD BE DIFFERENT OTHER THAN THE SIZE. AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, OR MY CONCERN IS THIS WAS SOMETHING TO WHAT YOU HAPPENED MAYBE IN THE 60S. THERE WERE I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT WERE POOL WHICH ALLOWED FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, WHICH PREDATES US. SO WHY WOULD WE NOT GIVE THIS PERSON THE PERMISSION TO KEEP THIS STRUCTURE? AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN RENOVATED AND ALL OF THAT. EVERYTHING PREDATES US. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS AN ERROR MADE IN THE PAST. IT PREDATES US. SO I MEAN, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW. WE JUST HAVE TO GO BY THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM. YES. JUST GOING TO PROVIDE A BIT OF CONTEXT, AND I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER HAS

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AS WELL. AND ALSO, MADAM MAYOR DID ALLUDE, WE DO ALLOW ADUS WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS R-1. A THE REASON THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED TO DENY THIS APPLICATION IS BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING OTHER. THE PROCESS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. COMMISSIONER, COUNCILMAN BUTLER, THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY UNILATERALLY TO CHANGE REZONINGS IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. THAT MUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THAT EVERY SINGLE REZONING MUST GO THROUGH. MISTER LOGAN IS NOT ASKING STAFF FOR A GRANDFATHERED USE OF THE ADU. WHAT HE'S ASKING IS THAT THIS CITY REZONES THE PROPERTY FROM R1 TO R3, WHICH IS THEN MULTIFAMILY. WE, AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME VOTED TO DENY THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE THAT SINGLE PROPERTY MULTIFAMILY IN THE MIDST OF AN R1 DISTRICT. WHAT WE DID SHARE WITH MISTER LOGAN, AND WE TRIED TO WORK THIS THROUGH THE ATTORNEY AT THE TIME, ATTORNEY WIGGINS. WE ACTUALLY DEFERRED THIS CASE. WE ASKED MR. LOGAN HE COULD BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE IF HE LIVED WITHIN THE PROPERTY, THEN THE UNIT BEHIND IT WOULD BECOME AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. BUT HE DOES NOT LIVE IN THE PROPERTY AND SO STAFF CAN'T GRANDFATHER IT EITHER, BECAUSE IT IS CURRENTLY WITHOUT A PERMIT TO OPERATE AS AN ADU. IF MR. LOGAN LIVED WITHIN THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY COULD REMAIN R1 A IT WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH ALL OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND IT AND THEN HE COULD COME BEFORE THE CITY AND ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE ADU. THE BANKS WOULD THEN RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT FOR HIM, THAT'S NOT HIS REQUEST. HIS REQUEST IS FOR US TO REZONE THIS, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT. SO AT THAT TIME THOSE PROPERTIES COULD BE TORN DOWN AND THEN THEY COULD BUILD MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES IN THE MIDDLE OF AN R1 DISTRICT. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE COMMISSION DENIED IT. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOT TO DENY AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. LET ME RAISE THIS MEMBER, MITCHELL. I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. HE WAS IN AND THEN I'LL I'LL COME BACK. I GUESS. AM I HEARING THIS CORRECTLY? SO AT SOME POINT, DID YOU SAY IT WAS A MULTIFAMILY OR ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT? NO, I DID NOT. SO WHAT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN OR NOTHING? NOTHING. THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION. I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT. AND IS HE TRYING TO SELL THIS AS TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES OR. NO, I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN DIRECTOR. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SMITH. WHAT WERE YOUR REASONS? WHAT WERE PLANNING AND ZONING REASONS FOR DENYING THE APPLICANT FOR THE NIGHT? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SORRY FOR DENYING THE APPLICATION. BASED ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THIS PROPERTY SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF R1 ZONED PROPERTY, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY. IF YOU RIDE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S MOSTLY SMALL BUNGALOW STYLE HOUSES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TO DEVELOP OR TO PROVIDE FOR THIS SINGLE PROPERTY TO BE ZONED MULTI-FAMILY. IF ANYTHING CHANGED IN THE MIDDLE, SAY THEY WANTED TO DEMOLISH IT, THEY COULD BUILD A APARTMENT BUILDING. THEY COULD BUILD ANY TYPE OF APARTMENT STYLE BUILDING WITH HIGHER DENSITY THAT IS CURRENTLY SET AND SET IN PLACE FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA ON THAT STREET, AND WE JUST WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR SPOT ZONING TO OCCUR.

RECOMMENDATION FOR I MEAN CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL LIKE WHEN YOU APPROVE THINGS IN THE PAST IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THESE CONDITIONS RIGHT HERE X Y Z YOU YOU CAN'T REBUILD IT FOR APARTMENT. YOU CAN'T DO THIS. YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THIS THIS IS STRICTLY ZONED FOR THAT RIGHT THERE. AND MY QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT AND I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT HIS SON LIVES IN THE BACK IS THE APARTMENT IS THE HOME BECOMING A DUPLEX HOME OR IT'S JUST IS IT MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE OF THE WHAT'S IN THE BACK OF IT? WHAT WHAT EXACTLY? THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO STRUCTURES ON THE PARCEL. SO THERE'S A FRONT HOUSE WHICH MY SON RESIDES IN. AND THEN THE BACK HOUSE IS THE UPSTAIRS APARTMENT AREA. THERE'S A HOUSE IN THE FRONT, AND THEN THERE'S A STRUCTURE IN

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THE BACK. YES. SO BASICALLY IT'S WHAT THE CITY ALREADY APPROVED IN THE PAST WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO SAY THEY'RE BUILDING A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AT THE TIME THAT THE APPLICANT CAME THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEY DID NOT HAVE THEY DIDN'T LIVE ON SITE. SO WE WEREN'T IN A POSITION TO SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU COME THROUGH FOR A SPECIAL USE FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE? BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SOMEONE THAT WAS RESIDING IN THE PROPERTY. SO WE WENT FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION AS IT WAS PRESENTED. SO WILL WILL YOUR SO YOU SAY YOUR SON IS IN THE BACK? NO, MY SON IS IN THE FRONT. YOU'RE IN THE HE'S IN THE FRONT. WHO'S GOING TO BE IN THE BACK? HE HAS A RENTER IN THE BACK. SO IT'S LIKE A DUPLEX. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THIS THIS QUESTION IS FOR MY COLLEAGUE. I APPRECIATE YOUR BACKGROUND. AND I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, TOO. SO IN THE PAST IF THIS WAS A DUPLEX, WHAT WOULD IT BE ZONED. IT WOULD THEN BE MULTI-FAMILY WHICH IS WHICH IS WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO NOW, WHICH IS CORRECT. HE'S TRYING TO MAKE IT A MULTIFAMILY ZONED LOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A SINGLE FAMILY ZONED LOT. AND SO WE TRIED NOT TO SPOT ZONE BECAUSE IT COULD IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. SO LET'S SAY ON YOUR STREET WHERE YOU LIVE, IF ALL OF THOSE HOUSES ARE ZONED R-1, MEANING ONE STRUCTURE, AND THEN THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR HAD A STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, DID NOT GET THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO HAVE IT, AND THEN TRIED TO SELL IT IN THE BANK, DID WHATEVER MR. LOGAN SAID. AND THEN THEY, YOUR NEIGHBOR, CAME TO THE CITY AND SAID, I WANT YOU TO REZONE THIS R-3. SO IF THE CITY REZONED THAT R-3, THEN AN APARTMENT BUILDING COULD BE BUILT NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOUSE. LET ME RAISE A QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO. WELL, I GUESS THIS QUESTION, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE, THEN, BETWEEN A HABITABLE STRUCTURE WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE GET APPROVED FOR, AND THEN WHAT HE'S REQUESTING? AND WHY WOULD THIS NOT BE THE SAME? OR WHY WOULDN'T IT CANNOT BE JUST A HABITABLE STRUCTURE. SO I'M A SO WE GENERALLY DON'T GO BACK AND FORTH WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS IN A Q&A. OKAY. BUT I WILL SAY AS STAFF HAS ALREADY SAID, THE ISSUE IS HIS SON DOESN'T OWN THE HOUSE. HE DOES. SO HIS SON IS NOT THE OWNER. AND HE'S LIVING IN THE HOUSE. IF HIS SON WERE THE OWNER, HE COULD APPLY FOR A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R1. A WE WOULD BE CHANGING, ALLOWING A USE THAT WE ALLOW OFTEN IN THE CITY. HIS ASK FOR R3 ALLOWS THEM. TODAY HE'S SAYING THIS, BUT THINGS COULD CHANGE. HE COULD SELL IT TO SOMEBODY. THEY COULD PUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE. AND SO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS MENTIONED THAT PLANNING AND ZONING HAD TRIED TO WORK WITH HIM AROUND THE HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OPTION, BUT R3 IN THE HOW MANY APARTMENT UNITS CAN BE ON THE R? MISS SMITH. WAS TRYING TO FIND IN THE CODE. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT ABOUT TO LOOK AT DEFINITIONS LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF DENSITY. IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THE UNITS HAVE TO BE 800FT■!S IN SIZE, AND THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE FOR OUR THREE. I BELIEVE IT'S 14,000FT■. THE ACTUAL PROPERTY HAS TO BE 14,000FT■!S MINIMUM. YES, MA'AM.

SO THIS I'M STILL SO, MISS SMITH, WHAT CAN WE DO SO THIS GENTLEMAN CAN GET FINANCING AND CAN GET INSURANCE ON THIS PROPERTY? I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE HOUSE, IT WAS A R1, A ZONING ON IT, RIGHT? YES. YES, IT WAS. SO IT WAS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. IT WAS. YES. YES. BUT MY QUESTION STILL STANDS. WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE HIS HOME COMPLIANT? FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, HE WOULD HAVE TO LIVE IN THE PROPERTY. HE WOULD NEED TO COME THROUGH FOR A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION. IF HE'S TRYING TO USE IT AS A RENTAL PROPERTY. I MEAN, THE CODE JUST

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DOES NOT. SO. SO LET ME LET ME SAY IT ANOTHER WAY THAT IF I OWN THE PROPERTY AND THEN I SOLD THE PROPERTY, I THEN THAT WHOEVER RECEIVES THAT PROPERTY STILL HAS THE BENEFIT OF IN WHAT'S IN EFFECT, TWO UNITS HIS HOME, AND THEN HE CAN RENT OUT THE BACK HOUSE WITH A SPECIAL USE RIGHT.

SO I DON'T SEE WHY THIS IS NOT DIFFERENT IF BECAUSE THE CITY THIS IS A PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO FIX, THAT HAPPENED. I THINK YOU SAID 1963. I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS FIRST CONSTRUCTED. AND SO THERE'S A MISTAKE THAT NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED. I COULD UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT AGAINST MULTIFAMILY UNITS, BUT WE STILL IT WOULD BE DERELICT IF WE DON'T GIVE THIS BROTHER WHAT HE NEEDS TO BE COMPLIANT SO THAT HE CAN ADEQUATELY INSURE THE PROPERTY AND OR RECEIVE FINANCING FOR THAT PROPERTY. SO WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY IS IF HE GETS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THEN HE CAN DO IT. NOW LET ME WAIT. LET ME ADD TO THAT. THEN IT GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL EQUATION. AND THE FACT THAT IF I BOUGHT THE HOUSE AND I BUILT A HABITABLE STRUCTURE, I GOT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THEN I SOLD IT TO SOMEONE ELSE. THEY STILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF WHAT I DID. AND SO WE I UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL PART OF WHAT'S BEING SAID, BUT THAT'S WHY I COME TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN DIG IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT AND HOW WE CAN FIX THIS, BECAUSE WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TONIGHT. WE EITHER GRANT HIM THE ZONING WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS. AS COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE SAID, OR BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A SPOT ZONING PROBLEM OR WE GIVE HIM THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SO THAT WE RECTIFY WHAT HAPPENED IN 1963. UNFORTUNATELY, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, HE DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR THAT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T RESIDE IN IT. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EVERYBODY ELSE GETTING THEM GOING THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS. HE DOESN'T LIVE THERE. IT'S AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY. IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY. SO BUT BUT BUT DO YOU SEE THE YOU SEE THE CONUNDRUM. BECAUSE IF I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM HIM AND HE STAYED THERE AND HE HAD THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND IF I BOUGHT IT FROM HIM, THEN I GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT HABITABLE STRUCTURE, WHETHER I LIVE THERE OR NOT. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ACTON YES, I'M JUST GOING TO CHIME IN. AND COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER I HEAR YOU WHEN YOU SAY IT WOULD BE DERELICT FOR US NOT TO TRY TO FIND A COMPROMISE OR SOME WAY FOR THIS GENTLEMAN. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING APPLES AND ORANGE. MISTER LOGAN IS NOT ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THE STRUCTURE IS THERE. THE CITY OF EAST POINT ALLOWS HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. HE IS ASKING FOR A REZONING. I ALSO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE DERELICT FOR THOSE WHO LIVE AROUND HIM. TO PURCHASE A HOME IN AN R1 DISTRICT, AND THEN LATER THE CITY COMES AND REZONES THAT TO R3. THEY PURCHASED A HOME WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO BE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AROUND THAT. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. THIS PROPERTY CAN BECOME COMPLIANT IF MR. LOGAN CHOOSES TO LIVE IN THE PROPERTY, SO THAT THAT STRUCTURE BECOMES AN ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY AND THE CITY ISSUES HIM. A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT, THEN IT IS COMPLIANT, THEN IT REMAINS R1 AND THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE AROUND HIM WHO PURCHASE A HOME IN AN R1 DISTRICT, DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR OR WORRY ABOUT A MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE BEING BUILT WITHIN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR COMMUNITY. I THINK IT IS ALSO WORTHY TO NOTE THAT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE MAP, I BELIEVE THAT THE LOT IS LARGER THAN THE OTHER LOTS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT IS EITHER A DOUBLE LOT OR A LOT AND A HALF. SO ONCE YOU REZONE THIS TO A R3, THEN YOU'RE ALLOWING MORE UNITS TO BE BUILT ON THAT LOT THAN WHAT'S AROUND THERE IN THE R1 DISTRICT. SO THE PROPERTY CAN BECOME COMPLIANT. YOU'RE CORRECT. WE ALLOW ADUS IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT ALL THE TIME, BUT WE DON'T CHANGE THE ZONING, WE DON'T CHANGE THE ZONING FOR THAT. WE GIVE THE APPLICANT A USE PERMIT FOR THOSE THINGS. WHERE YOU OFFER THIS OPTION, I'M SORRY. YES, HE WAS. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT IT WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY. NO, WE MR. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH THAT'S RIGHT. WE ALREADY HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL WILL MAKE. THANK YOU.

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COUNCILMAN. BUTLER COUNCIL WILL DECIDE ON THIS DAY. MR. LOGAN, YOU HAVE OPTIONS. AND YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR SON WAS TRYING TO BUY THE PROPERTY. IF HE DOES, THEN HE LIVES IN IT.

AND HE COULD DO A ADU A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IF YOU CHOSE TO LIVE IN IT AND SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THE BACK HOUSE OR THE BACK UNIT YOU'RE SAYING IS UPSTAIRS, SO IT'S ASSUMING IT'S LESS THAN 50%, 50% OR LESS THAN THE FRONT STRUCTURE, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD COMPLY. BUT THOSE ARE YOUR OPTIONS, RIGHT? LIKE THOSE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU OKAY. OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW NON OWNERS TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. IT DOES ALLOW OWNERS A R3. WHILE IT'S NOT YOUR INTENTION TO PUT APARTMENTS THERE, IF WE ZONE IT AS R3 AND YOU SELL IT TO SOMEBODY THEY COULD. SO THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE AROUND THIS WOULD ALWAYS BE CONCERNED ABOUT A PART, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING DROPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF A R1 SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, AND WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT, IT WAS R1, A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T WE WON'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO, MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, IF YOU COULD JUST PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA AND HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED, DELETE IT AND ALSO INDICATE ON THE AGENDA THAT THE IN THE PARENTHESES, INSTEAD OF SAYING A PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON THE DATE THAT WE HELD IT IN NOVEMBER, I'M NOT. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD HAVE AN OPTION TO MAKE A DECISION ON MONDAY, BUT THERE ARE OPTIONS HERE. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T BELONG TO THE CITY. THEY BELONG TO THE OWNER. NO, I SAID, THERE ARE OPTIONS, BUT I THINK THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT. YOU CAN TALK WITH STAFF. Y'ALL CAN WORK, WORK THROUGH IT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WITHDRAWN AND RESUBMITTED IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE OWNERSHIP CHANGES. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOUR SON IS PLANNING TO PURCHASE IT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN YOUR INTENT IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. YOUR INTENT. IF WE BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY TO BE TRUE IS TO HAVE YOUR SON OWN AND ONE, AND THEN USE THE ACCESSIBLE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, WHICH IS WHAT WE ALLO. SO. BUT COUNCIL WILL MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON MONDAY. THANK YOU.

[III.3. Update on Policing]

SO NO ONE ELSE ON ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS BEFORE I START GOING IN ORDER, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE FROM POLICE FOR AN UPDATE ON POLICING? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. MAJOR COPELAND IS HERE. SO GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ON MAJOR COPELAND. I ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT THE CHIEF GAVE ME TO UPDATE ON POLICING FOR THE HOLIDAYS, STARTING WITH CAMP CREEK. AT THE MARKETPLACE. WE HAVE ASSIGNED EXTRA UNIFORM OFFICERS AND PLAINCLOTHES POLICE OFFICERS TO WORK THE MARKETPLACE. FROM OPENING TO MIDNIGHT AND TO HANDLE ANY INCIDENTS IN THE MARKETPLACE. UNFORTUNATELY, ATLANTA AND FULTON COUNTY CID COULD NOT ASSIST US THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S JUST HE'S PULLING OUT THERE AND WE'LL BE RUNNING THE DETAIL UP UNTIL JANUARY THE 10TH. AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE MARKETPLACE. ALSO IN REFERENCE TO THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, WE HAVE, THEY'VE GONE LIVE ALREADY. THEY IN A 30 DAY TEST MODE IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY WHEN SCHOOL STARTS, WE WILL ACTUALLY START WRITING TICKETS. WE HAVE HAD ADVERTISED ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER NEWS OUTLETS ARE GOING TO REPORT ON IT, SO THE CITIZENS CAN BE AWARE OF IT. AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE LOCATIONS, THE THREE SCHOOLS. THERE'S GOING TO BE US MIDDLE SCHOOL ON HEADLAND DRIVE, WOODLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL ON STONE ROAD AND HAMILTON HOMES ON CONNOLLY DRIV.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. POLICE UPDATE THANK YOU. STILL, CAPTAIN MAJOR. MAJOR, I'M STILL TRYING TO LEARN THE SYMBOLS, BUT I. I KNEW YOU HAD A PROMOTION, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER.

YES. THANK YOU. SO I WHEN YOU WERE NAMING OFF THE SCHOOLS THERE, I DIDN'T HEAR TRI-CITIES.

IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THAT SCHOOL DIDN'T GET ANYTHING? I'M NOT SURE. I THINK IT'S IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE REQUESTED. AND WE ONLY GOT THE THREE CAMERAS AND TRI CITY WASN'T ONE OF THEM. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PLANS TO PUT ONE AT TRI-CITIES? I CAN FIND OUT. I'M NOT SURE. I CAN CHECK WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE, BUT NO, I'M NOT FAMILIAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MAJOR COPELAND? THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAVE ONE, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IN THIS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE POLICE CHIEF. WHEN YOU ALL DECIDED TO PUT THE

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CAMERAS AT THE SCHOOL, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT TRAFFIC OR SPEEDING AND THE SPEEDING THAT GOES INTO SCHOOL ZONE. AND ONE HAMILTON HOMES, BEING A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITHOUT SIDEWALKS ALL THE WAY TO THE SCHOOL. AND YOU SAID WOODLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL. YES, MA'AM.

WOODLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS SPEEDING. AND THE OTHER ONE WAS WAS PARTY WEST PARK. YEAH.

AGAIN, ANOTHER ROAD WHERE THERE'S CONSTANTLY SPEEDING DOWN HETLAND DOWN CONNELLY AND DOWN STONE. STONE. YES, MA'AM. WHERE THOSE SCHOOLS ARE. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER.

YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ALSO, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS BY THE STATE IN TERMS OF HOW WE PUT THOSE CAMERAS UP IN TERMS OF DISTANCING AND COULD YOU TELL US WHAT SOME OF THOSE OTHER REQUIREMENTS ARE TOO? WELL, I DON'T THINK I KNOW ABOUT THEM. IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 25 MILES AN HOUR. AND WE, WE GOT A CHOICE TO HAVE THE CAMERAS ON JUST DURING THE MORNING HOURS AND THEN THE EVENING HOURS OR THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DAY AND THROUGH THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. THE SPEED IS 25 MILES AN HOUR, REGARDLESS OF WHAT, WHETHER SCHOOLS IN OR OUT.

AND SO WHAT WE ELECTED TO DO IS TO KEEP IT ON FOR THE WHOLE EIGHT HOURS. DO YOU HAVE ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE RESIDENTS NOTICE BEFORE YOU START? WE ACTUALLY WE ADVERTISED ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PLUS THE NEWS IS GOING TO DO A REPORT ON IT. ALSO, HOW LONG IS THE WARNING PERIOD? 30 DAYS. SO IF SOMEONE VIOLATES THAT WITHIN THE 30 DAYS THEN YOU'LL GIVE THEM A WARNING A WARNING. BUT STARTING MID JANUARY THEY ACTUALLY GET TICKETS. AND THAT'S WHEN SCHOOL STARTS BACK. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE POLICE CHIEF CONSIDER GIVING TICKETS JUST TWICE A DAY, AS OPPOSED TO THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF TIME. WE'VE HAD SOME EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THE SPEED CAMERA NEAR GOING TO GREENBRIAR, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT. YES. SO FOR HIS CONSIDERATION, MAYBE HE WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE INUNDATED.

BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, WHEN THE STATE MADE THAT LAW, EXCUSE ME, THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF I'M NOT SURE IF THE TRI-CITY AREA, IT HAS A LONG ENOUGH STRAIGHTAWAY TO MAKE THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE. BUT ASK HIM IF HE WOULD CONSIDER THAT FOR US. YEAH, AND ANOTHER REASON WE ELECTED TO DO IT. THE WHOLE DAY, BECAUSE THROUGHOUT SCHOOL, KIDS ARE STILL GETTING RELEASED EARLY. YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON IF THEY GOT KIND OF DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS OR WHATEVER. SO WE STILL WANT TO KEEP THEM SAFE. ALSO, WHEN THE PEOPLE COME BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO COME, WE WANT THEM TO. YEAH, YEAH, I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE. AND I THINK OPERATIONALLY I WOULD TRUST THE CHIEF AND HIS LEADERSHIP UNDER THIS INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO MAKE THE OPERATIONAL DECISION. BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO COUCHED IN SAFETY AND THE THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU ALL HAVE SHARED WITH US THE SPEED CAMERA, LOCATIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO NOW THAT IT'S ROLLING OUT, YOU KNOW, SHARING HOW THOSE THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FINALIZED HAVE BEEN DETERMINED, I DON'T THINK AND HE'S GIVEN AN UPDATE THIS YEAR ABOUT THE CAMERAS, ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE BEING CONSIDERED. AND SO IF MAYBE MISS JESSE COULD EMAIL INFORMATION AGAIN ABOUT HOW THOSE AREAS WERE SELECTED, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS AROUND SPEEDING IN THE JEFFERSON PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AREA. YES, AND SO ONE, I WAS THINKING THEY WERE THE CAMERAS ON BUSSES, BUT THESE AREN'T THE CAMERAS ON SCHOOL BUSSES RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA. THEY ACTUALLY MOUNTED CAMERAS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOUNTED IN THE AREA. AND SO IF CHIEF COULD REMIND US AS TO HOW THOSE SELECTIONS WERE MADE AND IF THERE'S PLANS FOR EXPANSION AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ALSO WAS A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS HIT ON THE CONNLEY HILLS GOING TO HAMILTON HOLMES. YES, MA'AM. AROUND THE TIME THAT WE EITHER STARTED THIS OR ALREADY TALKING ABOUT IT. SO MAYBE IF THAT CAN BE SHARED. YOU SAID THAT ENFORCEMENT STARTS IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY WHEN SCHOOL STARTS BACK. YES, MA'AM. AND OUR WORK SESSION IN JANUARY IS ON JANUARY 13TH. SO THAT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE. BUT EITHER, MISS JESSE, IF WE COULD GET THE OUR RECOLLECTION REFLECTED ABOUT HOW THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE AND THEN GET

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ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE THINKING OF EXPANDING TO DIFFERENT AREAS, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND IF NOT BEFORE JANUARY 13TH WORK SESSION. YES, MA'AM. WE'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MAJOR COPELAND? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU

[III.8. Distance Requirements for Public Notification of Planning and Zoning]

SO MUCH. THANK YOU MA'AM. NUMBER EIGHT, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF PLANNING AND ZONING. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, THANK YOU. AND I PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY RESIDENTS NOT ONLY IN MY COMMUNITY. THAT JUST NOTIFICATION OF THINGS THAT ARE COMING TO THE COMMUNITY, THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT IS RATHER SHORT FOR INSTANCE, I THINK THE LAST EXAMPLE I GAVE WAS THE MICROSOFT DEVELOPMENT, IN WHICH THE HOMES THAT WERE NOTIFIED WERE IMMEDIATELY RIGHT THERE. HOWEVER, THE MICROSOFT DEVELOPMENT IMPACTED THREE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD DO TO BETTER NOTIFY OR EXTEND THE NOTIFICATION WHEN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING TO A AREA THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE THERE.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL KIMBERLY SMITH WILL COME UP AND DISCUSS THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM, IN REFERENCE TO THE WAREHOUSE AND I-1 ZONE PROPERTIES AND THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO VET THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. ONCE WE HAVE VETTED IT THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY TO ACCOMMODATE YOU EARLY NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I ALMOST FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE AND IT PROBABLY WAS BEFORE YOU CAME TO THE CITY.

THIS CONVERSATION WE HAD OVER AT THE JEFFERSON STATION BUILDING ABOUT THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.

AND I KNOW IT USED TO BE ONE DISTANCE, AND I THINK IT WENT TO MAYBE 500FT, MAYBE A THOUSAND FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION AND I, I, I'M ALMOST SURE YOU WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S A PROBLEM. AND IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE FOR WAREHOUSE. IT SHOULD BE FOR ANYTIME. THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY WHEN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING IMPACTED BY WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE WHAT AFFECTS UP AT A CORNER AFFECTS EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IF WE COULD JUST LOOK AT THAT AS A WHOLE AS OPPOSED TO JUST WAREHOUSES AND ALSO AND I THOUGHT THAT THE MOVIE THING WOULD BE ON HERE. BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT YOUR AREA. THAT WOULD BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT YEAH, IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT INCREASING IT AS A WHOL, WE WILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE INCREASED IT WHEN I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER. IT WENT. I THINK IT WENT FROM 500 TO 1000. THERE WAS AN INCREASE AND IT WAS TIED TO REZONING, NOT JUST INDUSTRIAL. I THINK YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BALANCING ACT OF. ARE WE GETTING INTO MORE? WE WANT TO DEFINITELY NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS. RIGHT. WE WANT TO NOTIFY AS MANY OF THEM AS POSSIBLE. BUT HOW WIDE IS HOW WHAT'S WHAT'S LARGE ENOUGH? RIGHT. AND THE ISSUES HAVE COME UP AROUND INDUSTRIAL OR REZONING FOR INDUSTRIAL. BUT I THINK WHAT WE DID WHEN IT WAS INCREASED BEFORE, MADAM, MISS SMITH, YOU WEREN'T HERE AT THE TIME, BUT YOU MAY HAVE LOOKED AT IT FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. I THINK IT WAS TIED TO JUST REZONINGS AND NOT NECESSARILY INDUSTRIAL. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I MEAN, IF WE THE CONCERN IS, IS DEFINITELY WHEN THERE'S RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE AREA. AND SO WHEN WE INCREASED IT BEFORE IT WAS BECAUSE OF PROPERTY THAT PROBABLY NOW IS OWNED BY MICROSOFT, WHERE THAT ISSUE CAME UP BECAUSE THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY RESIDENTIAL, IT WAS FIRST INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THEN IT WENT TO RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN WHEN THEY WERE REZONING IT

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FROM WANTING TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL BACK TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AFTER THE 2008 HOUSING MARKET CRASH. THAT'S WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN AND THEY WANTED THE REZONING BACK TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE THEY WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF THE MARKET HOUSING MARKET AT THAT TIME. AND SO THAT'S WHEN IT WAS INCREASED. BUT THEN WE ENDED UP WITH ANOTHER REZONING OF PROPERTIES AFTER MCDONOUGH OF MICROSOFT PURCHASED ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA AND THE NOTIFICATION FOR THOSE. RIGHT, SO WE CAN LOOK AT REZONING AS A WHOLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IMPACT THAT WOULD BE. THE COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE ALWAYS POINT LIKE THAT WOULD BE EASIER. NOT JUST SELECTING A USE OR IS WHAT TYPES OF USES SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT? WHAT ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS? WHEN WE START GOING FROM SOMETHING TO SOMETHING, RIGHT, LIKE AND GENERALLY THAT'S GOING FROM A RESIDENTIAL TO AN INDUSTRIAL LIKE, THOSE TYPES OF USES ARE JUST NOT EVEN COMPATIBLE. BUT WE DID CREATE TWO NEW ZONING DISTRICTS. WAS IT WAREHOUSE, INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE, WAREHOUSE, MIXED USE INDUSTRIAL, MIXED USE COMMERCIAL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. AND I THINK THE INTENT IS TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING. AND SO IF YOU HAVE MOST OF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES ARE LARGE IN SIZE. AND SO WHEN YOU PUT $1,000 RADIUS AROUND, IT DOESN'T CAPTURE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, SPECIFICALLY RESIDENTIAL IF THEY'RE IN THE AREA. YEAH. SO COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. IN ADDITION TO THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT MADAM MAYOR SPOKE OF, OF HOW WE INCREASE THAT THE CITY ALSO HAD NOT HAD A MANDATORY COMMUNITY MEETING. AND SO WE INSTITUTED THE CCIM. AND SO I THINK THAT ONE OF THE WAYS, AS DIRECTOR SMITH HAS MENTIONED, THE INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INFORMING THE PUBLIC OF WHAT'S COMING AS IT RELATES TO ZONING AND PLANNING MATTERS. AND SO, MISS SMITH, I KNOW THAT YOUR OFFICE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE CHARGED WITH KEEPING A RECORD OF ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, THEIR PRESIDENTS AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS NOT UP TO DATE. SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT UP TO DATE SO THAT WHEN THERE ARE ZONING MATTERS THAT COME TO CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, WE'VE GOT GOOD INFORMATION TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS SO THEY CAN ATTEND THE CCIM AND GET THE INFORMATION ON ANY OF THE MATTERS THAT ARE IMPACTING THEIR COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO PLANNING AND ZONING. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. AND IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE ABOUT NOTIFYING THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BECAUSE MOST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT AS ACTIVE AS OTHERS, BUT IT SHOULD BE A PROCESS AND A PLAN TO NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY WHAT COMES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, I WASN'T ASKING FOR SUBSTITUTE. I WAS ASKING TO BE. IN ADDITION, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. BUT I WAS JUST HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. SO WE DON'T GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THE QUESTION AND ANSWER. LIKE IF COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS, IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AGAIN, JUST PRESS YOUR BUTTON AND I'LL HAVE YOU TALK AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. BUT LET'S TRY TO STICK TO OUR ONE PERSON SPEAKS AND THEN I'LL CALL THE NEXT PERSON. BUT THE CONVERSATION IS KIND OF WHERE WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH. SO COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, ARE YOU DONE? FOR NOW, COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS YES, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. I WASN'T ASKING FOR THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT AND THOSE NOTIFICATIONS TO GO AWAY IN ORDER TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. I WAS ASKING THAT WE ALSO INCLUDE NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER LAYER OF NOTIFICATION SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET AS MANY CITIZENS AS INVOLVED, INFORMED. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE ALREADY NOTIFIED. AND WHAT I WAS SAYING IS IT SHOULDN'T BE JUST ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT AS ACTIVE AS OTHERS. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE EVERYBODY THAT'S IMPACTED BY WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT IS COMING THAT AFFECTS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY ZONE INFORMATION MEETINGS, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THEY STARTED. THEY'VE BEEN A WHILE FOR AROUND FOR A WHILE, BUT THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN WHEN THE RADIUS IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH, WHEN WE DON'T NOTIFY ENOUGH RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO THE POINT OF NOTIFYING THE PRESIDENTS OF THE HOA AS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER AND THE OTHER LAYER THAT STAFF HAS STARTED DOING WAS ALSO NOTIFYING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF WHEN THOSE THOSE CARS THAT GO OUT THAT WE GET A CARD AS WELL, SO THAT WE WILL KNOW ABOUT IT SO THAT WE COULD TRY TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT. BUT SO THE MULTI-LAYERED COMMUNICATION APPROACH I THINK IS HELPFUL. THE

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CHALLENGE HAS BEEN THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ZONE INFORMATION MEETING, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE THE PLANNING ZONING WORK SESSION AND THEN WE HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, AND THEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL WORK SESSION AND THEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THE DISTANCE ISN'T LARGE ENOUGH, PEOPLE AREN'T RECEIVING THE INFORMATION. AND WE'VE HAD SEIZED ON VERY, I GUESS, CONTROVERSIAL TYPE PROJECTS WHERE NOBODY SHOWED UP BECAUSE AND THEN THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION. THE, THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT IS WE RELY ON WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, SELF-REPORTING OR GOODWILL. WHEN THESE PEOPLE TELL US THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THESE NOTIFICATIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING TO CONFIRM THAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE SENT. RIGHT. SO WE HAD THEY WE GIVE THEM A LIST OR THEY GET A LIST AND THEY SAY THEY SENT THEM, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING IN OUR PROCESS. AND CITY ATTORNEY WIGGINS, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER CITIES HAVE IT. WE THERE'S IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE THEY SAY THEY DID IT. WE SAY WE GAVE THEM THE INFORMATION. THEY SAY THEY DID IT. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO CONFIRM. LIKE THEY'RE NOT SENDING IF WE'RE ON THE LIST THEN WE'LL GET IT. BUT THERE'S NO CHECK AND BALANCE A LOT OF TIMES. AND WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE DEVELOPERS SAY THEY DID AND RESIDENTS SAY THEY DIDN'T. AND OUR LAWS, OUR ORDINANCE JUST REQUIRES THEM TO DO IT. IS THERE A WAY TO PUT A CHECK AND BALANCE IN TO CONFIRM IN SOME WAY THAT THEY SENT IT TO THE WHATEVER OUR RADIUS IS, RIGHT? LIKE THAT. THERE'S I'M SAYING PROOF, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE SOMETHING TO THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, YES, THESE WENT OUT. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. ONE THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS THAT WE CAN CHANGE OUR FEE SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE US SENDING IT OUT ON THEIR BEHALF. THE OTHER THING IS, LIKE WITH POSTING, BECAUSE OUR WE CAN VERIFY POSTING OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE MUST BE POSTING ON ALL STREETS THAT FRONT, WHATEVER PROPERTY IS GETTING THE ACTION, THE ENTITLEMENT. AND I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT HAS STARTED GOING OUT TO TAKE PICTURES TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S BEING DONE. WE HAD A CASE WHERE IT WAS QUESTIONABLE WHETHER IT WAS DONE, AND THAT POSTING IS USUALLY DONE BY THE APPLICANT, AND WE HAD TO KIND OF PIVOT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE POSTING OCCURRED. AND SO WHEN THAT DID HAPPEN, PLANNING AND ZONING WAS LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED TO BE CHECKING THIS STUFF REGULARLY TO ENSURE THAT THE POSTING IS DONE. SO WE'VE GOT A FEW OPTIONS TO MEET THE VERIFICATION OF WHETHER OR NOT CITIZENS ARE GETTING THE NOTIFICATION. AND SO I THINK THIS OPERATIONAL AND LEGAL TO SOME EXTENT, LIKE IF I THINK IF WE COULD TAKE ALL OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT AROUND THE DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS SOME LEVEL OF VERIFICATION, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH STAFF TIME IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO MAIL ALL OF THEM OUT.

A LOT, RIGHT? AND I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF POSITIONS IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FILLED, AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO RESTRUCTURE FUNCTIONS AND DUTIES. ACTUALLY, THE CHARTER ALLOWS COUNCIL TO DETERMINE THE FUNCTION AND DUTIES OF POSITIONS. RIGHT? SO BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ALL OF THIS I MEAN, I'M IN MY 11TH YEAR AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP AND HAVE BEEN CONTROVERSIAL HAVE BEEN THE DEVELOPER SAID I SENT IT, THE RESIDENTS SAID WE DIDN'T RECEIVE IT, WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE. AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO SUPPORT IN ANY KIND OF WAY. WHETHER THEY DID WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO OR ANY OF THAT. SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY AROUND WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD INCREASE THE DISTANCE, WELL, WE SHOULD INCREASE THE DISTANCE TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE. YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAVE THE MULTI-LAYERS OF COMMUNICATION BUILT IN TO KIND OF ENSURE THAT. BUT IT IS REALLY THE DUTY IS ON THE DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE THOSE NOTIFICATIONS HAPPEN. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO CONFIRM, VERIFY, CONFIRM. MAY I, COUNCILMAN? YES. MAY I ADD SOMETHING? I WAS JUST GOING TO STATE, AS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THEY OFTEN REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO DO A CERTIFIED MAIL, WHICH IS IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE. AND IF THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO NOTIFY, THEN IT COULD GO UP IN COST, BECAUSE I THINK THE CARDS ARE ABOUT $7 PER CARD. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY $7 AND MAY HAVE GONE UP SINCE FIVE YEARS AGO. BUT MANY JURISDICTIONS

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REQUIRE CERTIFIED MAIL. THE CERTIFIED GREEN CARDS TO GO OUT, SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHICH JURISDICTIONS ARE REQUIRING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING IT SOMEWHERE. THEY'RE JUST NOT PAYING IN EASTPOINTE. RIGHT. AND SO MAYBE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT JURISDICTIONS ARE REQUIRING THAT, AND IF THERE'S BEEN ANY FEEDBACK AROUND IT. BUT LIKE THE KEY IS TO MAKE SURE RESIDENTS ARE NOTIFIED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN THEIR AREA, AND THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE AND PROVIDE IMPACT AND ENGAGE AND GET INFORMATION. THAT'S KIM WORK SESSION PLAN. THAT'S FIVE MEETINGS, AND WE END UP GETTING TO THE WORK SESSION WITH COUNCIL, WHERE THREE MEETINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN HELD AND PEOPLE NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO IF WE COULD FIND OUT WHICH JURISDICTIONS ARE REQUIRING CERTIFIED MAIL AND SEE HOW THAT'S GOING, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITIES IN FULTON COUNTY, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START. OR SOUTH FULTON, ATLANTA COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR, I EMAILED ATTORNEY WIGGINS AND MISS SMITH, AND YOU MADE MENTION OF AN ENTIRE ZONING REWRITE. IS THIS WOULD THIS BE A PART OF THAT? I KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO TALK MUCH MORE ABOUT IT, BUT YOU DID MENTION THAT THE ITEM SHOULD GO ON THE WORK SESSION AND AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE NOW, BUT THIS WAS FOR ANOTHER ISSUE, AND THAT WILL GET US TO THE REVISION AS OPPOSED TO A PIECEMEAL APPROACH. BUT THIS IS FOR ANOTHER ISSUE. WOULD THIS BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD EARLIER? JUST A COMPLETE ZONING REWRITE, BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS HIRED IN THE PAST, BUT IT CERTAINLY COULD BE RIGHT. AS WE USE THE ZONING ORDINANCE MORE AND MORE, WE IDENTIFY ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED, AMENDED, UPDATED VERSUS WITH IN ACCORDANCE WITH LIKE STATE LAW.

SO IT COULD BE OR WE CAN TAKE THE APPROACH OF, YOU KNOW, AS WE SEE THINGS MAKE CHANGES AS WE SEE THEM. SO IT REALLY IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THE ZONING CODE REWRITE? THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED. QUITE SOME TIME AGO. AND I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO. PROVIDE THAT FUNCTION INSTEAD OF GOING TO ANOTHER THIRD PARTY VENDOR. I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME SINCE THE ZONING CODE REWRITE WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

I THINK THE LAST THING THAT HAPPENED, I GAVE YOU GUYS A MEMO ON THE STATUS OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE LAST VENDOR THAT WAS HIRED TO DO IT. THAT WAS NOT DONE. AND I SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAPPENED AFTER THAT. MAYBE THAT'S A PUBLIC DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE COULD PUT ZONING CODE, REWRITE ON THE JANUARY WORK SESSION.

MADAM DEPUTY, CITY CLERK, WE THINK WE COULD. YOU ALREADY SENT THE MEMO, AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE INFORMATION, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE ALL OF COUNCIL HAVE IT AS WELL. JANUARY WORK SESSION, ZONING CODE REWRITE, UPDATE. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. SO THIS ITEM, MISS SMITH INDICATED THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON A DRAFT ORDINANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER MARK ROGERS. THAT MEANS THEY COULD PUT IT ON WHEN IT'S READY OR OKAY, IT'S GOING TO COME BACK THROUGH FROM PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE AN ORDINANCE. RIGHT. SO IT WILL COME BACK. SO BUT YOU ALL COULD START THE PROCESS AND CORRECT AT. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, COULD COUNCIL SHOULD COUNCIL I COULD WE COULD SHOULD COUNCIL GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED FROM STAFF REGARDING THE DISTANCE PRIOR TO IT GOING TO THE THROUGH THE PROCESS OR AS IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR A ZONING TEXT REWRITE. SO YOU'RE SAYING PRIOR TO AN ENTIRE ZONING REWRITE, CAN YOU GET AN UPDATE? I'M SORRY, I MISSPOKE PRIOR TO THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT COMING BACK TO US, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CCIM PUBLIC. YOU CAN GET AN UPDATE. YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE ACTION.

OKAY, SO MAYBE WE CAN GET AN UPDATE AT THE JANUARY WORK SESSION SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT DISTANCES WE'RE CONSIDERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS. COULD YOU ASK WITH THE DISTANCE AND THE APPROACH TO YOUR POINT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS SENDING STUFF OUT TO LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE SIMPLY SEND THEM. OH YEAH, THE DISTANCE AND THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE REQUIRING CERTIFIED MAIL FOR NOTIFICATION, LIKE HOW WE ENSURE VERIFICATION AND NOTIFICATION.

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WERE YOU PLANNING TO START THE PROCESS WITH IN JANUARY WITH THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT? IT MIGHT DELAY IT FOR A MONTH IF IT COMES BACK TO US FIRST, AND IT CAN BE SIMULTANEOUS. MADAM MAYOR. SO AS SHE PREPARES IT FOR IT TO GO THROUGH THE STATUTORY PROCESS, IT CAN BE SIMULTANEOUS. IT CAN GO TO THE TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL JUST FOR DISCUSSION ONLY. AND SO IF AS TO NOT DELAY IT FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS. SO THAT'S AN OPTION. WE'LL, WE'LL LET STAFF AND LEGAL DECIDE. I MEAN I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD ADDRESS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BUT ADDRESSING ALL OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD TONIGHT AS A PART OF THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT,

[III.10. Local Food Ecosystem]

OKAY. LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY INITIALLY PUT THIS ON, BUT THE LAST DISCUSSION WAS THAT THERE IS FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR A CITY AGRICULTURAL. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MANAGER, WHAT IT'S CALLED. AND THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS. THE FUNDING IS FOR A CONSULTANT OR FOR AN EMPLOYEE. AND THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER HAS GIVEN US THIS DOCUMENT. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS JESSIE. MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AFTER A COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE STAFFING CHOICES FOR THE TO IMPLEMENT THE CITY AGRICULTURE PLAN, YOU ASKED THAT STAFF GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT IS MOST FEASIBLE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. AND IN DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, I SPOKE WITH MEMBERS OF OUR INTERNAL STAFF WHO HAS SERVED AS A PARTNER OR STAFF TO THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COMMISSION. I SPOKE WITH MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COMMISSION AND SOME OF THEIR PARTNERS. AND WHAT I GAVE YOU IS REALLY A RECAP OF SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CITY AGRICULTURE PLAN, WHAT THE PLAN INTENDS TO DO OR WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO, SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE, THEIR PRIORITIES, AND A WORK PLAN OR SOMEWHAT OF A ROADMAP FOR WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE IN THE FUTURE. THE IDEA WAS FOR US TO AT LEAST GET THIS STARTED WITH SOME STAFF SUPPORT. AND SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS HOW DO WE GET THIS EFFORT OFF THE GROUND, AND WHERE BEST WOULD THE POSITION REST? SO WE LOOKED AT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE, AND I KNOW THOSE ON COUNCIL WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH SEVERAL OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM COMMISSION DID HEARD FROM THEM, THAT THEY FELT LIKE THIS IS A MULTIFACETED APPROACH, THAT IT IMPACTS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IT IMPACTS IMPACTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHAT, RECREATION, AND OF COURSE, OUR NEWEST ENDEAVOR WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT, BECAUSE THAT PROGRAM IS REALLY THE CLOSEST TO PEOPLE WHO COULD BENEFIT THE MOST TO HAVING LOCAL FOOD SOURCES. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND, THIS IS WHY WE BUDGETED THE POSITION IN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY TO GIVE IT A HOME, SO TO SPEAK. THE ISSUE WITH THAT, AS I INDICATED IN THE INFORMATION, I GAVE YOU, IS THAT WE WERE EXPECTING THAT DEPARTMENT TO BE MORE FULLY STAFFED THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. WE ONLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE THAT IS HOUSING MANAGER. WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY SOCIAL SERVICES MANAGER AND A COMMUNITY LIAISON. WE ARE HOPING TO HIRE SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF. ONE OF THE REASONS, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I'M MAKING TONIGHT IS THAT WE

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NOT USE THIS AS A STAFF PERSON AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT, THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT WE WERE ENVISIONING SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT. MOST OF THE MANAGERS ARE DOING THEIR WORK. AND UNTIL WE GET THAT OFFICE FULLY CONSTITUTED, WE BELIEVE THAT A CONSULTANT WOULD WORK BEST FOR THE INTERIM TIME PERIOD. WHAT A CONSULTANT WILL DO IS TO TAKE THE VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE FOUND IN THE IN THE LOCAL FOOD ECOSYSTEM WORK PLAN. IT'S A VERY THICK DOCUMENT. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S STILL ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE OR NOT, BUT IT'S A VERY THOROUGH APPROACH TO PROVIDING FOOD SUSTAINABILITY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND WE THINK THAT A CONSULTANT COULD COULD ALSO HELP US GET OUR ARMS AROUND IT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GO ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS. ALSO, THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET GRANT FUNDS. WE HAVE A GRANTS MANAGER POSITION AVAILABLE, BUT IT IS NOT FILLED YET. WE'RE RECRUITING FOR THAT POSITION, BUT IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT ATTRACTING AN INDIVIDUAL AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME TO COME ON FULL TIME. SO TO MAKE THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT, WE BELIEVE THAT IF WE COULD START OUT WITH A CONSULTANT, BUILD UPON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT CONSULTANT, ULTIMATELY THIS COULD BE A CITY POSITION AND IT COULD BE IN MAYBE THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, OR IT COULD BE IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. IT JUST DEPENDS. BUT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ANY ADDITIONAL LENGTH OF TIME, WE COULD START THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR A CONSULTANT AND HAVE SOMEONE POSSIBLY ON BOARD BY FEBRUARY. THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR THAT.

OVERVIEW AND UPDATE. MISS JESSIE. SO WHAT WOULD THE BUDGET IS 75,000. WHAT WOULD THE WHAT AMOUNT. AND THAT WAS FOR THE FULL FISCAL YEAR. SO ARE YOU ALL THINKING HALF OF THAT 37 FIVE.

ACTUALLY I'M THINKING THAT IF WE PROCURED THIS SERVICE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'LL COME BACK AT IN TERMS OF THE COST, BUT I'M EXPECTING THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD BE DOING THIS INDEPENDENTLY WOULD PROBABLY ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING. BASICALLY, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THE OFFICE SPACE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT THE CITY AND OTHER AMENITIES. IT COULD COST MORE THAN THAT, MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED JUST FOR THE PERSON OR A BODY. BUT WE COULD PUT IT OUT AND SEE WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET BACK IN IN TERMS OF DOLLARS. YEAH, I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, AND WHAT WAS BUDGETED WAS BUDGETED FOR 12 MONTHS, NOT JUST SIX. AND SO THAT WOULD BE A STEEP SIX MONTH CONTRACT AT $75,000 FOR SIX MONTHS. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT WITH THE SALARY OF THE 75,000. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A CONSULTANT, WHAT THEY WOULD ASK FOR. AND THEN LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT FISCAL BUDGET YEAR. SO AND YOU YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THE OFFICE SPACE. SO THEY WOULD OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROVIDED SPACE HERE AT THE. CORRECT. OKAY. AND I KNOW A BIG THING, I WAS LOOKING AT THE PROS AND THE CONS THAT YOU HAD HERE. YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH THE GRANT WRITING. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CONS FOR IF WE SECURE THE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT, COULD WE NOT PUT THAT IN THERE THAT THEY MAY POSSIBLY HAVE SOME SORT OF GRANT WRITING EXPERIENCE, OR COULD THEY WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH. WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT PERSON HERE, RIGHT? NOT YET. OKAY. SO I KNOW BASICALLY EVERYTHING THE CONTRACT WOULD HAVE TO BE CRAFTED AS SUCH FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED. SO WE COULD INCLUDE THAT IN THERE. I JUST NOTICED I KEPT SEEING THE GRANT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. LET'S

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SEE. SO LIKE I SAID, WE JUST HAVE TO PRETTY MUCH BUILD A CONTRACT OUT FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD NEED THAT WE'D BE ASKING FOR, FOR THAT CONSULTANT, WE CAN BRING BACK OUR SCOPE OF WORK. OKAY. IF THAT'S THE ROUTE YOU WANT TO TAKE, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK.

SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE ALL THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE IN THAT. WE THINK WE CAN COVER ALL THE BASES, BUT WE'LL BRING IT BACK. OKAY. AND ANOTHER THING, MADAM MAYOR, I KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR OUR FISCAL BUDGET SEASON, JUST IN, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE JUST WAITED UNTIL THE NEW BUDGET? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A NEED THAT WE THAT WE FILL THIS POSITION, BUT BECAUSE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER THAT GIVING US ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY FIND AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WE WOULD HIRE FOR THE CITY AS AN EMPLOYEE, OR IS IT IS TIME OF THE ESSENCE, AND WE NEED TO BRING SOMEONE IN THIS POSITION NOW, RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN? OKAY. SO THAT'S JUST NO, THAT'S JUST KIND OF JUST SORT OF THROWING IT OUT. THANK YOU. I YIELD. NO, THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO ASK, HAVE WE DONE ANY TYPE OF RESEARCH ON A SIMILAR CONSULTING FIRMS? YES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE STARTED DOING RESEARCH ON PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY IN THAT BUSINESS. WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY THAT WOULD FIT IN TERMS OF THAT. IDENTIFIED THE AREAS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE WE THE PLAN CALLS FOR HOUSING, INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, MAYBE CONVERTING SOME OF THE VACANT LOTS IN THE CITY TO GARDENS AND SO FORTH, AND ALSO HAVING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARM OF IT. THEY STARTED THAT WITH THE FARMERS MARKET. SOME OF YOU ALL KNOW THAT PEOPLE START IN FARMER'S MARKET, AND THEN THEY WENT OFF INTO STOREFRONTS.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE. BUT YES, SIR. SO THEY WANT TO CONVERT SOMETHING TO LIKE A URBAN GARDEN. WOULD THEY BE USING THEIR OWN RESOURCES OR WOULD THEY BE USING LEVERAGING CITY RESOURCES? THE PLAN HAS A COMPONENT IN IT THAT CALLS FOR IT'S LIKE A SEED BANK WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL WORKING WITH THE PROGRAM WOULD SUPPORT LOCAL URBAN GROWERS AND THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU COULD DO THAT. I DON'T PROFESS I HAVE A HOME GARDEN, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT WHAT IT WOULD BE ON A FULL SCALE, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE ASSISTANCE THAT WILL BE OFFERED. AND YOU WERE SAYING YOU THINK THIS MIGHT. WELL, I WAS TRYING TO SEE HOW THIS MIGHT COST OVER 75 K. I WAS TRYING TO SAY, ARE THEY USING RESOURCES FOR LIKE ARE THEY JUST MANAGING AND SUPPORTING ALREADY ESTABLISHED, I GUESS GARDENS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? OR ARE THEY THEY'RE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, USING THEIR RESOURCES, HAVING TO GO OUT. AND THE IDEA WOULD BE TO LEVERAGE RESOURCES THAT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE, COLLABORATE WITH ENTITIES THAT ARE ALREADY PROVIDING SERVICES. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS. AND JUST CONTINUE TO GROW IT IN THAT MANNER. OKAY.

AND ALSO, I WOULD EXPECT HOPEFULLY, I KNOW GRANT WRITING MIGHT BE A YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY WILL PURSUE GRANTS. AND WOULD THEY BE WOULD THEY MANAGE THOSE IF THEY DID GET THEM THE GRANT? WOULD BE FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. SO THEY WOULD HELP TO PROCURE THAT. BUT IT WOULD BE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CONSULTANT. OKA.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK TO THE POINT OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WAIT UNTIL JULY, THE CHALLENGE IS, IS THERE THAT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME GRANTS AVAILABLE THAT WE WOULD FOREGO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT WRITER IN HOUSE, AND THEN GENERALLY, PEOPLE WHO DO THIS WORK KNOW OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY COULD HELP US FOR. BUT THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, THE GUARANTEED BUDGET IS ONLY FOR SIX MONTHS, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND WHEN WE AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE SCOPE OF SERVICE OR THE SOLICITATION LIKE WHAT'S THE INITIAL TERM. RIGHT. AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO COMMIT

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TO AT LEAST A YEAR SO THAT MEANS THAT THIS POSITION WOULD BE IN TWO FISCAL YEARS UNTIL WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD PROBABLY OFFSET IT LATER WITH LIKE RENEWALS OR STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S PROS AND CONS EITHER WAY. I JUST THINK THAT IF WE GET SOMEBODY ENGAGED SOONER THAN LATER, THEY'RE PROBABLY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY COULD BRING TO US THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE WORK THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE FOR SIX MONTHS IF WE WAITED. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE MORE THING WAS THIS. AND HIS NAME, SIR, IT'S NOT SERVICE, BUT BUT BUT THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE WERE KIND OF OKAY. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I MISSED THIS. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION HAS BEEN LIKE THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES, LIKE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE AN EMPLOYEE, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A CONSULTANT, IF IT'S A CONSULTANT, WE HAVE TO DO A SOLICITATION BECAUSE IT'S OVER 25,000. AND WHILE WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME INDIVIDUALS OR INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA TO NOT GET AHEAD OF THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT OPEN PROCESS AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT, INCLUDING HIM AND OTHERS, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DON'T IN ANY WAY JEOPARDIZE THE PROCUREMENT EXPERIENCE OR THE JOB APPLICATION PROCESS. IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO A CONSULTANT. SO FOR TONIGHT, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? AND THEN IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT, WE CAN GET THE SCOPE OF WORK AT THE JANUARY 13TH. WE COULD DO IT. THE 16TH IF YOU WANT. OH THE 16TH, BLESS YOU. BLESS YOU. WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONDAY FOR SCOPE OF WORK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION SO THAT THEN THEY COULD PUT OUT THE SOLICITATION AND BRING US SOMETHING. MAYBE THEN WE USUALLY DO WITH 30 DAYS FOR THE SOLICITATION. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN WE'D HAVE SOMETHING LIKE TOP OF YEAR TO TRY TO GET AT LEAST SOME WORK ENGAGED. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. ARE WE ABLE TO PUT A CAP ON HOW MUCH WE PAY THE INCLUDE THAT. YES. SO GENERALLY WITH THE SOLICITATIONS WE CREATE THE SCOPE. AND THEN PEOPLE TELL US WHAT THEY'RE CHARGES FOR AND THAT PRICING IS A PART OF EVALUATION. WHAT THE PRICING AND THE SCOPE THAT THEY RESPOND BACK TO US WITH. SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONSULTANTS WILL LOOK TO SEE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR TO THEN MAKE THEIR PROPOSALS OR CREATE THEIR PROPOSALS. AND SO WE DON'T GENERALLY PUT THE AMOUNT IN THE SOLICITATION. WE PUT THE SCOPE OF WORK. AND THEN THEY TELL US WHAT THEY CAN DO IT FOR. AND THEN THAT'S THE COMPETITION IN THE PROCESS, BECAUSE I'M JUST SAYING IT'S I THINK THE DIRECTION KIND OF CHANGED FROM AN EMPLOYEE TO US HIRING AN EMPLOYEE, TO US GOING TO CONSULTING GROUP. AND I THINK THAT 75 K, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU JUST SAID WE DON'T PUT THE AMOUNT BECAUSE OF COURSE MY CONSULTING FIRM I'M LIKE, YES, IT'S GOING TO COST 75 K. SO I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS IF IT IS WITHOUT IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED, STAFF WOULD HAVE TO ASK US FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT IF WE GO WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED, THEY'D EITHER DO AN INNER DEPARTMENT TRANSFER FROM FUNDS WITHIN IT TO TRY TO MAKE IT UP, OR ADD BECAUSE IT'S CONSULTING SERVICES. SO THERE'S THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, OR THEY WOULD COME BACK TO US WITH THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH MIGHT INCLUDE OTHER AMENDMENTS FOR US TO DO IT IN THAT WAY, $75,000 OVER 12 OVER 12 MONTHS IS $6,250. $75,000 OVER SIX MONTHS IS $12,500. THAT'S A HUGE RANGE. I DON'T THINK. ME NOT SPEAK.

THIS ISN'T MY AREA, BUT LIKE 62, 50 TO 12,005 IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IF WE USE THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR THE FY 25 BUDGET. RIGHT. AND THEN WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS IF WE WANT TO INCREASE THIS IN THAT BUDGET. OR THEY COULD DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE THANK YOU. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK BEFORE MONDAY, IF YOU COULD SEND IT OUT IN THE EMAIL, THAT WAY EVERYBODY CAN GET TO LOOK AT IT AND ANY QUESTIONS OR CHANGES THEY ALREADY HAVE OPPOSED TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY AND THEN WE DECIDE MAYBE IT SHOULD GO TO WORK SESSION, JUST SEND IT TO US IN THE IN AN EMAIL AND WE CAN

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ALREADY HAVE OUR QUESTIONS OR ANY CHANGES OR ANYTHING. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK PLACED THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. WE WOULDN'T TAKE ACTION AT THAT POINT, BUT WE CAN REVIEW THE SCOPE OF WORK. NUMBER 13, THE CHIP AND A GRANT FROM DCA.

[III.13. Council Discussion and Possible Action on a Resolution Authorizing the Submission of the 2025 Community HOME Investment Program (CHIP) Grant Application to the Georgia Department of Community Affairs (DCA)]

MADAM, MISS JESSIE. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO ASK FRANK WHITFIELD TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CITY HAS WITH THIS GRANT, AND HE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSING RELATED PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WAS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS FRANK WHITFIELD. I'M THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER OUT OF THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT. THE HANDOUT YOU'RE GETTING IS A BRIEF MEMO THAT GIVES AN OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS UP TO IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING SPACE. SO I'LL GIVE A SECOND FOR EVERYBODY TO GET A COPY. AND IN PARTICULAR THE DECISION TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE AROUND THE CHIP GRANT PROGRAM. AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL TONIGHT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF EAST POINT IS AT A REALLY UNIQUE INFLECTION POINT AND HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT'S POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING SPACE. AS YOU KNOW, HOUSING IS A NATIONAL ISSUE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY, ACCESS, HOMELESSNESS. THE MAYOR REFERENCED THE POINT IN TIME COUNT AND THAT REPORT AND HOW IT'S SHOWING THE MISMATCH BETWEEN THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND NEEDS IN TERMS OF HOUSING. SO A PART OF MY MANDATE IS TO ADDRESS NOT ONLY MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, BUT OVERALL MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS MANAGE PROGRAMS THAT YOU ALREADY HAD EXISTING. WHEN I GOT HERE TWO MONTHS AGO, IN PARTICULAR, THE NO COST MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE UPDATES AND THEN DIVE STRAIGHT INTO THIS CHIP GRANT PROGRAM. SO THE NO COST MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL AGREED, PASSED AN AGREEMENT ON AUGUST 19TH WITH HOUSE PROUD AND GREENHEART CONSTRUCTION TO PROVIDE NO COST MINOR HOME REPAIRS TO SENIOR CITIZENS AND VETERANS WHO RESIDE IN EAST POINT AT A FUTURE MEETING, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE WAITLIST THAT HOUSE PROUD HAS, AND SINCE THAT MEETING, HOUSE PROUD HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT WAITLIST OF 49 RESIDENTS TO DETERMINE THEIR ELIGIBILITY AND PREPARE THEM FOR THE REPAIR NEEDS. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT LIST LIST VERIFIED AND COMPLETE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND FOR OUR PARTNER GREENHEART CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN WORK ON THOSE HOMES. THOSE ARE REPAIRS THAT WERE SLATED TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN A $10,000 THRESHOLD. SO THOSE ARE MINOR HOME REPAIRS. AND WHAT I'M ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR TONIGHT IS TO APPLY FOR A GRANT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS HERE AT THE STATE TO DO MAJOR HOME REPAIRS. AND SO THIS PROGRAM IS SOMETHING WE'VE APPLIED FOR LAST YEAR, AND WE WERE UNFORTUNATELY UNSUCCESSFUL IN OUR GRANT APPLICATION. WE REACHED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND GOT FEEDBACK ON OUR APPLICATION IN TERMS OF WHY DIDN'T WE GET FUNDED? WE SCORED WELL IN ALMOST EVERY CATEGORY THAT WE HAD EXCEPT FOR CAPACITY. WE HADN'T DEMONSTRATED THAT WE HAD SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE ON STAFF THAT COULD MANAGE THE PROGRAM. SO THEREFORE WE DIDN'T GET ANY POINTS IN THAT SECTION. SO WE I SHARED MY BACKGROUND WITH ONE OF THE PROGRAM OFFICERS WITH THAT PROGRAM, AND SHE GAVE US CONFIDENCE SHE COULDN'T GIVE US ASSURANCE. BUT SHE GAVE US CONFIDENCE THAT MY BACKGROUND IN MANAGING THIS PROGRAM WOULD HELP US FARE MUCH BETTER IN THIS APPLICATION CYCLE. THAT APPLICATION IS DUE ON JANUARY 31ST. IT ALSO HAS A $500 PROCESSING FEE FOR THE APPLICATION, WHICH AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING WE APPLIED FOR LAST YEAR, BUT WERE UNFORTUNATELY UNSUCCESSFUL. THIS IS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM THAT GOES THROUGH THE STATE. A COUPLE OTHER QUICK UPDATES. THE DEMOLITION PROGRAM THAT WE CONDUCTED OVER THIS PAST YEAR, ALL OF THOSE EIGHT PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED PER THE CONTRACTOR, GMP CONSTRUCTION HAULING AND ENVIRONMENTAL. SO WE'RE CLOSING THAT OUT. AND THEN LASTLY, I LISTENED TO ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE WANTED TO DO MORE TO INCENTIVIZE FIRST RESPONDERS TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS HERE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND SO WITH THAT MANDATE, I REACHED OUT TO SOME LOCAL REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND GOT CONNECTED WITH A MORTGAGE LENDER. AND WE

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RECENTLY LAST WEEK HOSTED A WORKSHOP HIGHLIGHTING THE HOMES FOR HEROES PROGRAM, WHICH IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE A LOCAL LENDER WHO PARTICIPATES IN THAT PROGRAM WHERE THEY PROVIDE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE TO FIRST RESPONDERS. SO WE HAD THE WORKSHOP YESTERDAY OR LAST WEEK.

WE HAD AROUND 40 PLUS EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATE IN THAT, AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO DO THOSE SORT OF WORKSHOPS. AND WE ALSO HAD OTHER STAFF, NOT JUST POLICE AND FIRE, BUT ALSO ALL STAFF ENCOURAGING THEM TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS HERE IN EAST POINT. AND LASTLY, I'VE ALSO ENGAGED WITH BUSINESS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIT, ALSO KNOWN AS BIDA, WHO'S ALSO GOING THROUGH A REBRAND OF EMPOWER EAST POINT AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT ESTABLISHING A HOMEBUYER FUND FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT, SOMETHING THAT'S DEDICATED JUST TO EAST POINT. THERE'S A LOT OF HOMEBUYER PROGRAMS OUT THERE, BUT WE BOTH FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMETHING DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY FOR EAST POINT RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW TO SCALE THAT, TO MAKE SURE IT'S A SUSTAINABLE FUND THAT'S CREATED.

SO HERE'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION. HERE IS BELOW. IF YOU EVER WANT TO REACH OUT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. SO BE SURE TO CC THE CITY MANAGER IF YOU DO REACH OUT. BUT THE DECISION FOR TODAY IS REALLY AROUND SEEKING A RESOLUTION FOR US TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. THAT'S DUE ON JANUARY 31ST, 2025. THANK YOU. SO THE BEST WE CAN DO TONIGHT IS CONSENT AGENDA FOR MONDAY. SO I JUST WANT TO CAVEAT THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUT ACTION MIGHT BE TAKEN. AND I SAW THAT THE APPLICATION IS DUE JANUARY 31ST 2025. SO AS WE'RE TALKING WE CAN POTENTIALLY PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE THIS IS A WORK SESSION. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON UNLESS THAT GOT YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. NOT NO WORRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER HAS. COUNCILMAN CLARK, HOW ARE YOU DOING? FORMER MAYOR? I'M DOING OKAY. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE $10,000 THRESHOLD FOR THE SENIORS. COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THAT ENCOMPASSES? AND MY SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION IS GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE FUNDING TWO NON-PROFITS. SO COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AS WELL? SURE. SO THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, TO COUNCIL. SO THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THE QUESTION. ONE IS AROUND OUR TWO VENDORS. SO HOUSE PROUD IS BASED OUT OF ATLANTA. BUT THEY DO HOME REPAIRS MINOR HOME REPAIRS. I'D SAY ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THIS IN BIRMINGHAM AS WELL. BUT THEY ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT DOES HOME REPAIRS. THEY RAISE FUNDS FOR IT. THEY HAVE A LOT OF SIMILAR CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR PROGRAM TARGETING VETERANS AND SENIORS, FOLKS WHO ARE 80% OF AMI. SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES THAT WE DESIGN THE PROGRAM. GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION IS A FOR PROFIT COMPANY, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DO FOR THEIR BUSINESS IS DUE MINOR OR THEY DO ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. BUT WE'VE ENGAGED THEM AROUND THIS LOW NO COST, MINOR HOME REPAIRS, WHICH IN ESSENCE IS TO HELP FOLKS GET UP TO CODE. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SIDING PAINTING, WE SAY DRY SAFE. SO IF THERE'S ANY WINDOWS THAT NEED REPAIRED, ANY HOLES IN THE ROOF, ANY SIDING ISSUE, ANY ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE, NEED A RAMP BUILT SO THAT SOMEONE WITH A WHEELCHAIR CAN BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR HOME SAFELY. SO IT'S AND IT'S THOSE MINOR THINGS. IT'S NOT THE SYSTEMS THING, WHICH IS THE GRANT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO APPLY FOR WHEN SOMEONE HAS AN ELECTRICAL ISSUE OR THEY NEED A FULL ROOF OR THEY NEED A FULL HVAC SYSTEM, SOME OF THESE MAJOR REPAIRS, THEY COST MUCH MORE THAN 10,000. THAT'S WHAT THE GRANT WE'RE LOOKING TO APPLY FO. BUT THE MINOR IS GOING TO BE MORE I DON'T WANT TO SAY SURFACE LEVEL, BUT THEY'RE NOT AS INTENSIVE. SO AND COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE, IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS TOO. SO I KNOW HOUSE PROUD HAD A LIST OF EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS. AND HERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT 49. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. HAVE YOU GONE THROUGH THOSE? THE LIST OF THE 49 YET TO DETERMINE THE GRANT RECIPIENTS? YES. SO HOUSE PROUD HAS GONE THROUGH ABOUT HALF OF THAT LIST. SO FAR. AND SO THE FIRST ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT LIST IS ONE. ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED IN THE PROGRAM? TWO LET'S VERIFY YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM.

AND THREE DOING AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT OF THE TYPE OF REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED. SO THEY'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THAT LIST RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST HALFWAY THROUGH WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THE FUNDING TO HOUSE PROUD, AND THEN THEY WOULD PICK THE CONTRACTOR. SO ARE WE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT NOW? YEAH, THAT IS NOT HOW THE AGREEMENT WAS PASSED, THAT IT WAS AN

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AGREEMENT PASSED WITH TWO ORGANIZATIONS AND I'M GOING TO DEFER BECAUSE THERE WAS A SECOND ORGANIZATION, TOO. MADAM MAYOR, THAT WAS THAT IS GRANT. BUT I THOUGHT THERE WERE TWO NONPROFITS THAT DEALT WITH. AND IS THAT THE ONE THAT BUT ONE IS LOCATED HERE IN THE CITY, CORRECT. SO HOUSE PROUD IS WORKING WITH AND I ALREADY HAD THE LIST BECAUSE THEY PROVIDED FOR THE COUNTY AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR EASTPOINTE GREEN HEART ALSO BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO A SOLICITATION. SO HOUSE PROUD AND GREEN HEART RESPONDED. THEN THE QUESTION IS WHY IS GREEN HEART THE ONLY ONE DOING CONSTRUCTION AND NOT HOUSE PROUD? YEAH. SO THE I THINK THE INITIAL VISION WAS FOR HOUSE PROUD TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION. I THINK SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS IN TERMS OF BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS. THERE'S A THERE'S A NUMBER OF HURDLES THAT ARE CREATED WITH BEING COMPLIANT WITH THAT. AND ONE OF THEM IS I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE SCENARIO.

SO AND IF THIS WAS NON ARPA FUNDS, WE COULD GO ON A BLOCK AND SAY ALL RIGHT ALL THREE OF THESE HOMES NEED HVAC AND IT'S GOING TO COST 7000 HERE 7000 HERE AND 7000 HERE. SO WE'RE GOOD. LET'S GO AHEAD AND ROCK AND ROLL WITH ARPA. THE MOMENT YOU GO OVER THAT $10,000 THRESHOLD, YOU HAVE TO THEN GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS. AND FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION LIKE HOUSE PROUD, THAT IS A TON A BIG LIFT FOR THEM ADMINISTRATIVELY THAT TAKES THEM AWAY FROM THEIR MISSION. AND ALSO THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT. IT'S A REALLY A DRAIN ON THEIR RESOURCES. SO THEIR PREFERENCE IS TO BE MORE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROJECT MANAGER OF THIS. SINCE WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED THE AGREEMENT WITH GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION, THEY WOULD VET THAT LIST, GO THROUGH, MANAGE REPORTING, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT. SO THAT IS THE LOGIC BEHIND HOUSE PROUD BEING MORE OF A PROJECT MANAGER AND GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION DOING WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE WHAT HOUSE PROUD IS TYPICAL BUSINESS MODEL IS THEY DON'T HAVE STAFF THAT ARE DOING THESE REPAIRS WHEN THEY GET A CONTRACT, THEY THEN GO CONTRACT OUT THE WORK AND FIND PEOPLE WHO CAN DO IT. SO IN ESSENCE, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WORK FOR THEM BY SIGNING THE AGREEMENT WITH GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION. MY FINAL QUESTION THEN, SO WHO MONITORS? WELL, I GUESS HOUSE PROUD WILL MONITOR SO GREEN HEART. GREEN HEART. ALL RIGHT. THIS COST $7,000. SO THEY WON'T SPEND THE WHOLE TEN. YEP.

SO THEY MONITOR THAT. YES. THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR TO COUNCIL. SO YES THIS WOULD BE THERE'S TWO LAYERS. ONE IS HOUSE PROUD IS GOING TO OVERSEE AS THEY THIS IS WHAT THEY DO EVERY DAY OVERSEEING THEIR CONTRACTORS AND VENDORS. THEY'RE GOING TO OVERSEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE DONE CORRECTLY. THINGS ARE COMPLIANT. THE CHECKOUTS WILL BE THERE. BUT I ALSO WILL BE MONITORING THIS PROCESS AS WELL OF BOTH HOUSE PROUD AND GREEN HEART CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR AN UPDATE AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH CORRECT. AND WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN THEY WHEN THE RESIDENTS INITIALLY SIGNED UP AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT, THEY KIND OF KNEW WHAT EACH SENIOR NEEDED, WHETHER IT WAS RAMPS IN THE BATHROOM, WHETHER IT WAS THE FLOOR SINKING IN IN THE BATHROOM. THEY KIND OF KNEW WHAT IT WOULD COST TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS IN THOSE HOMES WITH THE SENIORS ARE. SO WHEN IT WHEN WE INITIALLY RECEIVED IT, THE CITY WAS JUST GOING TO WORK WITH HOUSE PROUD. BUT THEN WE FOUND OUT WE IT HAD TO BE BIDDED OUT. AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO HOUSE PROUD. AND THE OTHER CONTRACTOR, BASED ON THE REGULATIONS OF USING THE AQUA FUNDS. SO HOUSE PROUD IS STILL THERE BECAUSE THEY HOLD THE LIST OF ALL THE SENIORS. AND THEN THIS COMPANY COMES IN AND MAKE THE REPAIRS TO THE HOMES THAT HOUSE PROUD. ALREADY KNOW ABOUT WHAT THEY THEY KNEW THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THOSE HOUSES. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR ALSO BRINGING UP THE FACT ABOUT FIRST RESPONDER HOUSING. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS TO HOW WE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER TO OFFER HOUSING TO FIRST RESPONDERS, THAT ALSO, I HOPE, COULD TIE IN TO BANK OWNED HOUSES, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS A LOT OF HOUSES THAT ARE VACANT, THAT'S OWNED BY THE BANK. AND WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO BRING THIS BACK UP BECAUSE I KNOW WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A REGISTRY OF WHEN WHO IS

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OWNING THE PROPERTY TO KNOW AND THAT WOULD ALSO HELP AS WELL WITH FIRST RESPONDERS INTO THESE HOMES AS WELL. AND ALSO, I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP IN EASTPOINTE. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT PLAYS INTO WHAT WE'RE WE HAVE AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HOW DO WE GET MAKE IT WHERE PEOPLE CAN BECOME HOMEOWNERS IN EASTPOINTE, WHETHER THEY'RE LIVING WHEREVER THEY'RE LIVING, TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS AND THE TRAINING OR WHATEVER THEY NEED OR HELP THEM WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IN BECOMING A HOMEOWNER, THAT ALSO TIES INTO THE BANK OWNED HOMES, AS WELL AS INVESTMENT PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST HOLDING ON TO. IT ALSO COULD PLAY INTO OUR 50 WORST BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO BRING THOSE PROPERTY UP TO CODE STANDARD BECAUSE THEY PAY MORE TAXES ON THEM, AND ONCE THEY BRING THEM UP TO CODE STANDARD, MAYBE THEY CAN COME INTO COMPLIANCE AS TO FIXING IT, AS TO WHERE PEOPLE COULD PURCHASE THOSE HOMES. SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS, IS REALLY GOOD, BUT I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SENIOR HOMES, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER CALLOWAY BROUGHT LISA JONES FLOWERS, WHO IS A RESIDENT OF EASTPOINTE. AND THEN I THINK I BROUGHT UP THE FACT ABOUT THESE SENIOR HOMES, WHICH I DID, AND HOW WE CAN MAKE REPAIRS TO THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING ON THE LIST.

BUT THERE WAS NOTHING IN PLACE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR HOMES FIXED BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW PRIDE WORKS WITH ATLANTA AND ATLANTA, HAVE PEOPLE LIKE TYLER PERRY AND OTHER PEOPLE INVESTING TO FIX UP THOSE HOMES. BUT THEN WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO INVEST TO HELP FIX UP OUR SENIOR HOMES, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT WE DO WANT THEM TO AGE IN PLACE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED WITH A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND THEY CAN CONTINUE TO STAY IN THEIR HOUSE AND MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSE. BUT THEY WE REALIZE THAT THEY DO NEED A LITTLE HELP BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE THEIR INCOMES WON'T ALLOW THEM TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY USED TO DO. SO IF WE CAN HELP THEM GET FIX IT UP TO MAKE THEM COMFORTABLE AND SAFE, THEN I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL HELP THEM. AWESOME. MADAM MAYOR, OH, CAN I RESPOND? YEAH, YOU CAN RESPOND. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBE, ATHENS, COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL.

COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS. YEAH, I'LL JUST SHARE, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR OF YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILWOMAN. I THINK IT'S SPOT ON IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHY THE OFFICE OF EQUITY IS DOING THIS WORK. IF WE THINK ABOUT OUR SENIORS NOT BEING DISPLACED, NOT BEING PRICED OUT, SOME DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY PREY ON SENIORS WHO ARE HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS. SO THEY REALIZE, OH, THEY GOT COVID. HEY, I CAN BAIL YOU OUT OF THIS. HERE'S A CHECK.

SO I'M APPROACHING THIS WORK FROM THAT EQUITY LENS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LEAST OF US IS BEING THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH SHANNON AND YOLANDA, THEY HAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, BOOTS ON THE GROUND. AND WE ARE APPROACHING THIS WORK FROM AN EQUITY LENS. FROM THAT STANDPOINT. MR. WHITFIELD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. VERY INFORMATIVE.

QUICK QUESTION FOR ME. SO FOR THE MINOR REPAIRS, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT PER HOUSEHOLD IS $10,000 FOR THE CHIP GRANT THROUGH DCA. I KNOW THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST 12 HOUSEHOLDS. WHAT IS THAT MAXIMUM AMOUNT PER HOUSEHOLD AND IS THAT THE MAXIMUM FOR WHICH WE CAN APPLY? YEP. THANK YOU. AND THROUGH YOU CHAIRWOMAN TO COUNCIL. SO WE ARE APPLYING FOR $500,000. THAT'S THE MAX THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS QUESTION. I'M APOLOGIZE THAT IT WASN'T I DIDN'T SPEAK ON IT EARLIER. SO $500,000. AND WE'RE SAYING AT LEAST 12 HOMES.

SO WE'RE EXPECTING THESE REPAIRS TO BE AT MAX OUT AT 40,000 PER HOME. SO IF SOME COME UNDER THAT AND WE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA BUDGET, WE CAN DO MORE. BUT THE MAX WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 40 K PER HOME. AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR IS 500,000. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I KIND OF HAD THE SAME QUESTION. SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT HOUSE PROUD. I THINK THERE YOU SAID ONCE IT GOES OVER $10,000, IT BECOMES LIKE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS BECOMES CUMBERSOME. SO IF WE DO GET THIS CHIP GRANT, WHO WILL MANAGE IT OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? YEAH. SO TBD TO BE

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DETERMINED AND THROUGH THROUGH YOU CHAIRWOMAN TO COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE TO BE DETERMINED HOW WE WANT TO MANAGE THAT PROGRAM. IF WE WANT TO DO IT IN HOUSE, IF WE STILL FEEL LIKE THE CAPACITY IS NOT WHERE WE'D LIKE IT TO BE, AND WE'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH HOUSE PROUD, YOU CAN PARTNER WITH A NONPROFIT LIKE HOUSE PROUD TO MANAGE THE INITIATIVE. I THINK THERE WILL BE NATURAL PROGRESSION TO WORK WITH AND MOMENTUM TO WORK WITH HOUSE PROUD, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE IDENTIFYING FAMILIES. AND SOME OF THESE, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AND SAY $10,000 ISN'T GOING TO CUT IT. LET'S PUT YOU ON THIS OTHER LIST FOR WHEN THIS PROGRAM OPENS UP.

SO I THINK THEY'RE A NATURAL PARTNER FOR US. BUT THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED. AND THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFIED IN ORDER TO APPLY. I ALSO SEE I KNOW YOU MENTIONED YOU APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT BEFORE. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT WRITER. SO WHO WOULD BE KIND OF HANDLING THE APPLICATION PROCESS. YEAH. SO THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE A GRANT WRITER CONSULTANT. WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT IS WRITING GRANTS WHO PREPARED LAST YEAR'S GRANT. AS I MENTIONED, WE REVIEWED LAST YEAR'S GRANT PROPOSAL. 80% OF IT WAS TIGHTENED READY TO GO. SO A LOT OF THIS WAS JUST COPY AND PASTE. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS WE HAD NEEDED TO UPDATE.

AS I MENTIONED, THE CAPACITY ISSUE. WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESSED, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THAT THAT CONSULTANT HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. AND THEN WE HAVE A GRANT COORDINATOR HERE WHO SPOKE BEFORE YOU BEFORE VICTOR CEPHAS. AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM ON MAKING SURE IT'S SUBMITTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MYRA, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. MR. WHITFIELD. AND TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE SAID, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE HOUSING PROGRAM AND SHE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL ON THIS HOUSING INITIATIVE. BUT WHAT I'M MOST INTERESTED IN SEEING OR HEARING ABOUT IS DELIVERABLES AND HOW WE MARRY EVERYTHING TOGETHER. FROM WHAT SHE HAS TALKED ABOUT, OTHERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, ESPECIALLY THE PIECE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY HOUSING INITIATIVE. BROOKVIEW AND DUNWOODY OFFER THEIR OFFICERS A STIPEND TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE ENGAGE REAL ESTATE AGENTS. I GUESS A FOOLPROOF PLAN AS TO HOW YOU WILL GO ABOUT A TIMELINE WITH BRINGING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER WITH WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING NOW, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE MENTIONED BANK OWNED HOUSING, VACANT HOUSING REGISTRY, PUBLIC SAFETY HOUSING. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GO ABOUT CARRYING ALL OF THAT OUT LIKE WHAT IS OUR PLAN, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE AND THE DELIVERABLE FOR A COMPLETE AND CONSCIOUS HOUSING INITIATIVE PROGRAM, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT I GUESS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, LIKE WHAT ARE WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE TO TACKLE WHAT EVERYONE HAS TALKED ABOUT? YEAH. THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, TO COUNCIL, I WOULD SAY I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS THIS IS COMPREHENSIVE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO MONTHS. SO LET'S LET'S PREFACE WITH THA. SECOND TO THAT, I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY APPROACH AND HOW I THINK THIS NEEDS TO GET COMPLETE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF CONTEXT, AGAIN, IS AROUND LEADERSHIP. AND ONCE THE CITY MANAGER IS SELECTED, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THAT PERSON BUYS INTO THE VISION AS WELL, THAT THEY SEE THIS AS A PRIORITY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DYNAMIC AS AS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, ENSURING THAT WE HIRE AND BUILD THE RIGHT TEAM AND CAPACITY. BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THEY BROUGHT ME HERE IS I PRIDE MYSELF ON GETTING ACTIVE AND GETTING THINGS DONE IS YOU HAVE I'M WORKING ON ALL FRONTS.

SO NOT ONLY AM I WORKING ON THE HOMEBUYER CLASS THAT WE DID LAST WEEK COORDINATING THAT, BUT I'M ALSO MEETING WITH DEVELOPERS AND SELLING EASTPOINT AND SAYING, HEY, CONSIDER EASTPOINT USING MY NETWORK FROM FROM MY CAREER AND INVITING THOSE FOLKS TO COME AND TOUR EASTPOINT. WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE THERE'S A NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT HERE ON ON EASTPOINT STREET BETWEEN DORSEY AND THOMPSON HERE NEXT YEAR. AND SO I MET WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS AND SAID, HEY, DON'T STOP HERE. LET'S CONTINUE TO GROW IN OTHER SPACE. AND THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE SOME TAX CREDITS ALREADY EARMARKED FOR THEM. AND SO IT WAS INTERESTING TIMING TO BE SELLING ON SELLING THEM ON INVESTING IN EASTPOINT. SO MY PHILOSOPHY IS DIVE ALL IN, GO IN ALL IN ALL OF THEM TALK. I'VE MET WITH POLICE AND FIRE AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT BEING HOMEOWNERS. SO UNTIL THE LARGER PICTURE IS CREATED WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND POLICY AND THOSE THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DETERMINE, MY ROLE IS TO KEEP KEEP THINGS MOVING FORWARD TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND

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OF MY PHILOSOPHY WITH THINGS. SO THE TIMELINE AND THINGS WILL COME, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE PREDICATED UPON HAVING LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT BUYS INTO IT, INTO THIS INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF HOUSING. THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED NEW DEVELOPMENT ON DORSEY AND THOMPSON. WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT? INITIAL QUESTION FOR YEAH, I CAN I CAN PULL UP WHY I DID THIS IN MY LAPTOP. BUT IT'S A MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S BEING DONE BY GORMAN. AND YEAH I DON'T KNOW PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE TO IT BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT'S COOKED BEFORE. BEFORE I GOT HERE. BUT THERE'S STILL SOME PHASES. THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH IN TERMS OF GETTING APPROVAL. STILL VARIANCES POTENTIALLY, AS WELL AS GETTING THIS DONE. SO. SO MY QUESTION IS HAS IT BEEN BEFORE COUNCIL OR ARE THEY STILL IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE. THANK YOU. LEE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE WE JUST HAD AND THIS WAS PROBABLY ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO. WE HAD A CONCEPT MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER. AND THAT'S REALLY THE STAGE THAT IT'S AT RIGHT NOW. NOTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. IT'S JUST A LOT OF TALK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR THE REQUIREMENTS. BUT AS MR. WHITFIELD STATED, IT IS PROPOSED AS A MIXED USE TYPE DEVELOPMENT AND WHERE EXACTLY ON DORSEY AND WHAT WAS IT? WILL IT WILL STRETCH FROM DORSEY TO THOMPSON ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF EAST POINT STREET. OKAY. SO HERE IS THE CONCERNS. IT WAS JUST SHARED, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO ANYTIME THERE'S POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYBODY'S WARD, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION FIRST, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO WONDER NOW BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO PICTURE WHAT END OF DORSEY AND THOMPSON, WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, WHAT KIND OF APARTMENTS, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS IT FOR THAT AREA? SO IT IS A RED FLAG. GOTCHA. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M SURE WE COULD EASILY GET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A COPY OF THE CONCEPT, BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN ETCHED IN STONE AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, THIS IS MERELY A CONCEPT. THIS THIS IS A PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS THEY HAVE TO BRING BEFORE US A CONCEPT, AND THEY WILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WITH ANY PLANS, WITH ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS PUT OUT THERE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND IT HASN'T GONE BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, MA'AM. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND PLEASE STAND BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M, I'M SPEAKING CORRECTLY ON THIS. SO THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE WILL NOT BE A MY UNDERSTANDING OR A REQUEST FOR A REZONE FOR THIS PROPERTY. BUT I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY TO YOUR POINT, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I WAS SHARING THAT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, KIND OF MY APPROACH HAS BEEN GOING OUT THERE, AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I WAS ENGAGING WITH DEVELOPERS ABOUT CONSIDERING EAST POINT, AND THE DEVELOPERS SAID, HEY, WE'RE ALREADY CONSIDERING EAST POINT. LET ME SHOW YOU A PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE CONTEXT OF HOW THAT CAME TO BE. OKAY. AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ZONED FOR IT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY FIRST BEFORE IT'S JUST PUT OUT THAT, HEY, LOOK, THEY'RE LOOKING THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO D, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WILL FEEL SLIGHTED OR SOME TYPE OF WAY WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES AND THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION AND THEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. AND I CAN'T SPEAK IF THEY DID. AND THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR TO COUNCIL, I CAN'T SPEAK ON IF THEY DID OR DIDN'T ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY, THEY AND WE CAN MAKE SURE WE INVITE THEM TO COME SPEAK WITH YOU ALL. AND THEY WERE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT COMING TO SPEAK WITH YOU

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ALL, AND THEY ARE OPEN TO THAT, AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SHARE HOW THEY ENGAGE THAT SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. EVEN PRIOR TO ENGAGING AND EMBARKING ON THIS. SO I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT. THEY MAY HAVE THAT INFORMATION. YEAH, I THINK MISS JESSIE, THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS TO ENSURE THAT BEFORE STATEMENTS ARE MADE IN PRESENTATIONS BY STAFF ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS COMING TO THE AREA, THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL KNOW ABOUT THEM, BECAUSE RESIDENTS WILL EXPECT US TO KNOW AND THEY WILL EXPECT THAT WE HAVE ALREADY AGREED OR MADE SOME DECISIONS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE. THEY DON'T NEED A REZONING. BUT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR ZONING CONDITIONS OR IS THERE A VARIANCE LIKE WHAT PROCESS IS IT GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH? AND SO I THINK WHEN IT COMES UP AND EVERYBODY UP HERE IS SURPRISED OR HADN'T HEARD ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, EITHER ON SOCIAL MEDIA RIGHT NOW THEY THEY'RE PUTTING COMMENTS AS A PART OF THE MEETING OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE EMAILING OR DOING COMMENTS LATER. RIGHT. AND WITH THIS JUST BEING BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, BECAUSE THERE IS NO ZONING APPLICATION, YOU SAID THEY'RE IN THE CONCEPT PHASE, SO THEY REACHED OUT TO THE OFFICE AND SHARED SOME INFORMATION. BUT SOMETIMES CONCEPTS DON'T MAKE IT PAST CONCEPTS. AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING DENSITY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT'S JUST THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNO, AT THIS POINT, WE DEFINITELY ALL THE INFORMATION BY TOMORROW ABOUT WHAT THIS IS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE QUESTIONS ASKED. YES. AND IT'S TO PREVENT FREQUENT EMAILS OR MULTIPLE EMAILS. BLESS YOU ABOUT THE SAME INFORMATION. LIKE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW THIS SO THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE I CAN IMAGINE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S EITHER A COMMENT ON THE VIDEO RIGHT NOW OR IT'LL COME UP LATER OR WE'LL SEE EMAILS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S THE. AS IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM, THERE IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE GRANT APPLICATION, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, GOING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE MAJOR REPAIRS. NO OBJECTION. OKAY, MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, YOU CAN PUT ITEM NUMBER 13 ON CONSENT. THANK YOU. SO MUCH. NEXT UP,

[III.15. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Facade Grant Program to be Funded by ARPA Funds in the Amount of $350,000 (Part 1 of 2)]

MISS JESSIE, IS THE FACADE GRANT PROGRAM. I REALLY HOPE WE HAVE A LOT MORE DETAILS TONIGHT. YES, MA'AM. MACY ROGERS AND SHANNON GOLDEN ARE GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THAT.

MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL FINANCE IS HERE TONIGHT TO INFORM EVERYONE OF THE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE ARPA FUNDS. ARPA FUNDS WERE WAS SELECTED FOR THIS PROGRAM. HOWEVER, WE ARE AT THE STAGE WHERE WE'RE ABOUT TO FINALLY FINALIZE OUR FUNDS TO BE OBLIGATED AND BE REPORTED ON. SO ARPA FUNDS HAVE TO BE OBLIGATED BY DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR. THIS I GUESS THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM WAS BROUGHT TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER, AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. AND SO AS IT RELATES TO THE OBLIGATION REQUIREMENT, IT HAS TO HAVE A CONTRACT. AND THAT CONTRACT HAS TO ALSO HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT ATTACHED TO IT. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROGRAM HAS THAT FINANCE HAS RECOMMENDED TWO OPTIONS FROM RESEARCH IN REGARDS TO THESE ARPA FUNDS AND OBLIGATING THEM. AND TO MEET THE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT. THE FIRST OPTION IS TO CREATE AN MOU. THIS CAN BE DONE BETWEEN THE CITY AND IDA. THE SECOND IS TO OPTION WOULD BE TO DETERMINE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE. WE CAN HAVE THAT MOU PREPARED AND READY MONDAY FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON. I THINK THE CHALLENGE WITH DOING AN MOU WITH ANYBODY IS WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM. THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN COMING BACK LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND ALLOCATED $350,000, BUT $350,000 ISN'T GOING A LONG WAY IN FOUR WARDS.

AND IF WE SEPARATE DOWNTOWN AS A SPECIFIC AREA, SO WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON IS WHAT IS A REALISTIC PLAN FOR THIS MONEY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A

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THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED COMMITTED TO A PROJECT, THEN WE'RE FINE. AND THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE VOTE IN AUGUST OF SEPTEMBER TO SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT. BUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS A REALISTIC PLAN OR WHAT WE HAVEN'T HAD. LET ME SAY I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET TONIGHT, BUT A REALISTIC PLAN OF SPENDING $350,000 IN FOUR WARDS ALONE OR FOUR WARDS PLUS DOWNTOWN, WHICH WOULD BE FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND WHAT ARE GOING TO BE THE CRITERIA AND HOW WE WORK THROUGH THAT. AND I THINK PREVIOUSLY WE HAD A PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT, BUT WE CAN'T OVERPROMISE AND UNDERDELIVER $350,000 IS NOT GOING THAT FAR. AND I THINK THE IT WAS LIKE UP TO $80,000. I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE FOUR GRAND OPPORTUNITIES. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THOSE DETAILS, BUT WE VOTED TO APPROVE THE FUNDING, THE ARPA FUNDING FOR THIS SO THAT IT CAN BE COMMITTED, ALLOCATED TO COMPLY WITH THE GRANT. BUT WE STILL NEED THE FUNDING. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE DO AN MOU WITH IDA, BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE OPERATED. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TONIGHT IS WHAT HOW WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE FUNDING.

WE'VE ALREADY SAID THE STAFF CAN DO THIS PROGRAM. SO DOING AN MOU WITH VITAL WOULD BE A WHOLE NOTHER DECISION, WHICH WOULDN'T HAPPEN TONIGHT. IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN ON MONDAY.

BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHY ARE WE DOING THAT WHEN WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED FOR STAFF TO DO IT? AND WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR IS A REALISTIC PLAN THAT GETS $350,000 THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR WHEREVER WE IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OR WHATEVER THAT PLAN IS GOING TO BE THAT HAS BEEN THE CONCERN OF COUNCIL, OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FAIR, OPEN PROCESS TO ACTUALLY DO THE PROGRAM. BUT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED THE FUNDS. WE'VE ALREADY SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WE JUST NEED THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM. RIGHT. BUT I JUST NEEDED TO ADD TO THAT. EVEN THOUGH COUNCIL APPROVES THE FUNDING, IT HAS, IT HAS TO HAVE A CAVEAT TO WHERE THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE. THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE OBLIGATED TO A CONTRACT, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THROUGH THIS IS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ALL ARE TELLING US THAT, FIRST OF ALL, YEAH, VERY FIRST TIME, BECAUSE BEFORE IT WAS JUST THE PROGRAM THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND WE WERE WAITING ON DETAILS. AND SO THIS AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING COUNCIL IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AT THE FINAL HOUR ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ONE WE WERE NEVER TOLD ABOUT THERE HAVING TO BE A CONTRACT WITH THE AGENCY OR WITH SOMEBODY TO OBLIGATE THE FUNDS. WE WERE JUST TOLD WE NEEDED TO APPROVE THE PROGRAM AND NOT OBLIGATED THE FUNDS, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VITAL, BUT WE STILL IT'S NOT WHO WE HAVE TO CONTRACT WHO IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY, WE SET THE TERMS OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN $350,000 OVER TO AN ENTITY WITHOUT ANY INPUT ON THAT. AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT TONIGHT WE HAVE AN UPDATE. WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. BECAUSE THE COUNCIL WILL DECIDE IF THERE IS A CONTRACT, HOW THAT MONEY WILL BE SPENT, NOT THE OTHER AGENCIES. I WAS JUST SPEAKING ON THE FUNDING PART OF IT, BUT MAESHOWE IS THE PROGRAM HAS THE PROGRAMMATIC PIECE ON IT. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MACY ROGERS, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT I TRULY APOLOGIZE. THE PRESENTATION IS NOT UPLOADED TO THE SYSTEM. SO IF YOU HAVE IT ON A FLASH DRIVE, DO YOU HAVE YOUR LAPTOP? I, I, I HAVE A FLASH DRIVE AT MY, MY DESK. I CAN GO GET IT REAL QUICKLY AND BE RIGHT BACK. WE'LL, WE'LL PASS THIS ITEM AND GO TO A VERY GOOD THANK YOU. READY. NEXT ONE. NUMBER 16 IS ON THE CONSENT. LET'S GO TO NUMBER 17. THIS LAST

[IV.17. Discussion and Possible Action on GIRMA PTSD Insurance Program (Action May be Taken)]

MONTH I MEANT LAST WEEK. THIS IS MANDATORY INSURANCE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE FOR PTSD. AND FOR WHAT I THINK IS STANDS FOR POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER FOR GAMA. I THINK THIS IS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE AMOUNT WAS AROUND 33,000. THERE WAS I THINK WE APPROVED THE AMOUNT. BUT WE NEED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AND IT'S TIME SENSITIVE. AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS JESSIE AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE INSURANCE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, PTSD INSURANCE PROGRAM LAST MEETING. BUT

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THERE'S ALSO A RESOLUTION THAT YOU ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PUT IN THE PROPER FORM FOR ADOPTION THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU. AND SO WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THAT RESOLUTION. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? IF NOT, BECAUSE IT INDICATES ON THE AGENDA THAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN, WE CAN THERE CAN BE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO ADD MEMBERSHIP IN A FUND OF GEORGIA INTERLOCAL RISK MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS TO ASK FROM STAFF, TONIGHT IS THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE AMOUNT AND THE RESOLUTION. THE MOTION WILL BE A RESOLUTION TO ADD MEMBERSHIP AND A FUND OF GEORGIA INTERLOCAL RISK MANAGEMENT AGENCY. GIRMA, WHICH IS THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. MADAM, MAY I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO ADD THE MEMBERSHIP FOR RICH MEN? RISK MANAGEMENT RESOLUTION SO. IT DOES DEAL WITH RISK MANAGEMENT. BUT DO WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE TITLE OR IS THAT OKAY. ATTORNEY WIGGINS YEAH, IF YOU WOULD JUST READ THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. SO THE RESOLUTION, THE TITLE IS THE RESOLUTION TO ADD MEMBERSHIP AND A FUND OF GEORGIA INTERLOCAL RISK MANAGEMENT AGENCY. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND MOVED IN PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. NEXT GEN

[IV.18. The Next GEN Internship Program Initiative]

INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. YES. AND I HAVE PROVIDED A COUPLE OF PIECES OF INFORMATION HERE. THIS ISN'T ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY DONE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THOSE STUDENTS WITH AN INTERNSHIP EXPERIENCE HERE IN THE CITY TO GO TOWARDS THEIR DEGREE PROGRAM. I'M STILL IN THE PROCESS OF NOT ONLY SPEAKING WITH ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE, BUT ALSO COLLEGES IN THE ATLANTA UNIVERSITY CENTER AND ALSO CLAYTON STATE UNIVERSITY. TO CONTINUE OR REENACT THIS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THROUGH THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, PAID AND NON-PAID INTERNSHIPS.

THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT THAT I HAVE HERE WILL JUST COINCIDE WITH WHAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING FOR AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, BUT IT'S MORE STREAMLINED AND VALUABLE TO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE STUDENTS RECEIVE AS THEY ENTER THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY. I DO HAVE. THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM WOULD START AT THE END OF MAY, GOING INTO ONLY THE MONTHS OF JUNE AND JULY. THEY CAN IN TURN IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. BUT INTERNSHIPS ARE A VALUABLE WAY TO GROW OUR PIPELINE OF INCOMING GRADUATING TALENT. THE CITY CAN ASSESS THEIR ABILITIES AND ENCOURAGE INTERNS TO APPLY FOR OPEN POSITIONS. I'VE ALSO CREATED A TIMELINE HERE TO BE INSTITUTED. AGAIN, THIS DOCUMENT WILL GO ALONG OR COINCIDE WITH WHAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS DOCUMENT A PART OF THE CITY'S INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO IMPLEMENT A NEXT GEN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE NUMBER TWO, I PROVIDED AN INTERNSHIP SUMMER SCHEDULE ORIENTATION. STUDENTS SHOULD RECEIVE WEEKLY LECTURES NOT TO. EXCEED 45 MINUTES AND A BREAKDOWN FROM START TO FINISH FROM THE MONTH OF JANUARY UNTIL THE END OF JULY, WHEN THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM SHOULD END.

THE GOALS OF THE INTERNSHIP ARE TO DEVELOP PROFESSIONAL SKILLS AND INCREASE EMPLOYABILITY IN TARGETED INDUSTRIES. CONNECT INTERNS WITH POTENTIAL JOBS IN THE CITY. INCREASE THE NUMBER OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL YOUTH AND DEVELOP KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND

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ITS OPERATIONS, AND INCREASE AWARENESS AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. DEVELOP A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF COMMUNITY ISSUES AND PROVIDE BE PROVIDED WITH THE HANDS ON LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR INTERNS. SO THAT IS WHY I HAVE PROVIDED THIS DOCUMENT TONIGHT FOR YOUR REVIEW AND ALSO SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS IN THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THE INTERNSHIP OR THE INTERN WILL BE PROVIDED BY COMING HERE INTO THE GREAT CITY OF EASTPOINTE. THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING ACTION TONIGHT OR MONDAY. NO, I'M NOT EXPECTING ACTION TONIGHT. I MEAN, IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR ANYTHING THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE ALREADY HAS AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. IT'S ONE THAT IS PAID AND IT'S ONE THAT IS NOT PAID. BUT WHEN YOU TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO WHAT IT IS WE'RE OFFERING, I THINK THIS GIVES A BETTER SCOPE OF WHAT IT IS WE ARE OFFERING OR WHAT WE SHOULD BE OFFERING AS WE ARE OFFERING INTERNS. WHEN I STARTED THE INTERNSHIP OR WHEN I INITIATED THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM ONLY WITH ATLANTA METROPOLITAN EIGHT YEARS AGO, THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW CHANGES. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXPAND OUR REACH WITH STUDENTS IN THE ATLANTA UNIVERSITY CENTER AND ALSO AT CLAYTON STATE UNIVERSITY. SO IT'S NO ACTION ON IT. I WOULD JUST LIKE THIS DOCUMENT TO BE PROVIDED OR THIS DOCUMENT TO BE A PART OF OUR RECORDS WITH WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE FOR OFFERING STUDENTS THESE INTERNSHIPS THAT COME INTO OUR CITY MORE STREAMLINED AS TO WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES WILL BE AS AN INTERNSHIP IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, COUNCILMEMBER. YES.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM. YOU TALKED ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE ATLANTA TECHNICAL COLLEGE, ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE, CLAYTON STATE, AND THE ATLANTA UNIVERSITY CENTER. WOULD WE PARTNER WITH THEM AND SPECIFICALLY LOOK FOR EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ENROLLED IN THOSE INSTITUTIONS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM? COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I'M SORRY SO AS NOT TO ENGAGE IN A Q&A. IF YOU COULD WRITE DOWN THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS HAS AND THEN THERE THERE ARE TWO OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO HER. SO JUST ASK IF YOU COULD ASK HER THE QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO OTHERS AND THEN SHE CAN. SURE. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW PARTNERING WITH THOSE INSTITUTIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED, ATLANTA TECHNICAL COLLEGE, ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE, AUC, AND CLAYTON STATE COLLEGE, WILL WE PARTNER WITH THOSE INSTITUTIONS AND SPECIFICALLY ENGAGE EAST POINT RESIDENTS WHO ARE ENROLLED IN THOSE INSTITUTIONS? AND BECAUSE I ASKED THAT QUESTION JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BENEFITING EAST POINT RESIDENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I HEARD YOU SAY SOME OF THESE ARE FUNDED OR PAID INTERNSHIPS, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW THAT WOULD BE FUNDED. AND WHERE DID THAT MONEY COME FROM? ALSO, TO MISS JESSE REALLY QUICK, I WASN'T AWARE WE HAVE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR, MY QUESTION FOR COUNCILWOMAN DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS IS YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE CURRICULUM.

SO WOULD THAT BE FORMATTED BY THE COLLEGES? AND BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID THERE WAS A AMOUNT OF TIME FOR STUDY, I THINK IT WAS 45 MINUTES A WEEK OR. I'M I'M JUST TRYING TO CATCH THAT. SO IF YOU COULD HELP ME WITH THAT QUESTION, I APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS, ALL RIGHT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTIONS TO GO TO. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. IN THE PAST, BEFORE WHEN THIS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM STARTED WITH ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE, WE SPECIFICALLY GAVE PRIORITY. MY GOAL WAS TO GIVE PRIORITY TO EAST POINT STUDENTS. AND THEN IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FIND EAST POINT STUDENTS THAT WERE ATTENDING ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE, THEN WE MOVED ON TO WHOEVER WAS INTERESTED IN THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS TWOFOLD. YOU CAN COME. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU CAN COME INTO OUR CITY OF EAST POINT AND RECEIVE COLLEGE CREDIT, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT WHERE YOU ARE PAID TO HAVE AN INTERNSHIP HERE AS WELL. I DID NOT I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER TO ATLANTA TECHNICAL COLLEGE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH THE

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PRESIDENT AT ATLANTA TECHNICAL COLLEGE HOW DO WE GET EDUCATIONAL CREDITS FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE OFFICERS? BECAUSE IT IS A TECHNICAL INSTITUTION AND NOT A FOUR YEAR INSTITUTION. SO I WANTED TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE WITH WHAT THEIR COURSE OFFERINGS ARE AND HOW THAT COULD BENEFIT EITHER THE EMPLOYEES IN EAST POINT, OR WOULD IT BENEFIT THE STUDENTS AT ATLANTA TECHNICAL COLLEGE, VICE VERSA? BUT I JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO REACH OUT TO ATLANTA TECHNICAL COLLEGE. BUT WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, IT WAS JUST SOLELY ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE. BUT NOW THERE IS A GREATER NEED. WE HAVE THESE INSTITUTIONS AND THESE STUDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW STUDENTS THAT ARE ATTENDING CLAYTON STATE, RIGHT NOW THAT ARE EAST POINT RESIDENTS. SO TOP PRIORITY WOULD GO TO THOSE STUDENTS THAT RESIDE IN EAST POINT FUNDING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M STILL DISCUSSING WITH OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, BUT I THOUGHT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LINE ITEM IN EACH CITY'S DEPARTMENT ALREADY FOR INTERNSHIPS, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD I HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT DEEPER DIVE YET WITH MISS JESSE. AND WAS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER OH, SO AS I WAS LOOKING AT INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AND WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING, THEY OFFERED 45 MINUTE WEEKLY SESSIONS TO THE INTERNS BY DEPARTMENT HEADS. SO ONE OF THE IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE, THEY JUST OFFERED 45 MINUTE COURSE OFFERINGS AS TO ONE OF THE COURSE OFFERINGS, LET'S SAY UNDERSTANDING JOB MARKET AND RESUMES, THAT WOULD BE A PRESENTATION MADE BY OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. SO WHAT I DID WAS INCORPORATE THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO PROBABLY COME IN AND GIVE THOSE INTERN STUDENTS A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON JOB MARKET SKILLS, LEADERSHIP FUNDAMENTALS, BUSINESS ETIQUETTE, AND PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION. JUST PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER THAT COMES ALONG WITH ANY JOB IN ANY INDUSTRY. YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, SO IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT A CURRICULUM. I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT ADDED TO THEM COMING INTO WORK AND RECEIVING PAY. JUST A REAL HANDS ON ON THE JOB EXPERIENCE. COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING INTERNS FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I BUT I DON'T WANT IS FOR US TO GET REALLY, REALLY DEEP INTO TH. TELLING THEM OR PROVIDING TO THEM ABOUT RESUMES AND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WRITE, HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DRESS. THAT'S PART OF THEM GOING TO SCHOOL. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT INTERNSHIP, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT COMING HERE LIKE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SCHOOL TO BE AN ATTORNEY, YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND DO AN INTERNSHIP IN A LAW OFFICE. AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER THINGS OR SHARE THINGS AS TO WHAT IT IS TO PUT A CASE TOGETHER, HEAR A CASE, DO A CASE, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT I DON'T WHAT I WOULD PREFER IF THE CITY ATTORNEY POSSIBLY LOOK AT IT, OR TO SEE WHAT CAN BE ADDED, WHAT CAN BE TAKEN OUT, HOW WILL IT WORK WITH THE CITY? BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR STAFF TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM MORE TIME, HAVING TO DO LECTURES OR OR STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT I SEE IT. I MEAN, HOWEVER IT WORKS, WHATEVER THE WISHES OF COUNCIL, I'M FINE, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT OUR STAFF TO HAVE TO GIVE THEM WEEKLY LECTURES ABOUT WHAT IT IS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DOING AN INTERNSHIP, YOU'RE COMING TO LEARN WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE A TRADE OR STUDY IN AS FAR AS CLASSES FOR THE POLICE, WE PROVIDE TRAINING AND THEY ACTUALLY GET THEIR PAY BASED ON THEIR TRAINING. STAFF ALSO

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PROVIDES GET TRAINING THAT THE CITY. I'M SURE PAYS FOR THAT THEY CAN DO AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS, THANK YOU. AND. WHEN YOU'RE PROVIDED AN INTERNSHIP, I THINK THAT IT'S GOOD TO TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROAC. I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENCE IN COMING INTO A CITY AND JUST DOING A JOB. LIKE WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE GATHERING THESE THESE INFORMATION SESSIONS DON'T HAVE TO BE 45 OR 60 MINUTES. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT, AS I LOOKED AT OTHER INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AND OTHER CITIES, THE CITY OF ATLANTA, THE CITY OF DELRAY BEACH, ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES OR MAYBE A SPECIFIC PROGRAM EMPLOYEE IS DESIGNATED TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND NOT NECESSARILY IT'S STATED HERE THAT IT'S A WEEKLY LECTURE, BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH AN INFORMATION SESSION. UNDERSTANDING JOB MARKET AND RESUMES SOME OF THE COURSE OFFERINGS THAT NOT COURSE OFFERINGS, BUT INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS THAT THEY OFFER WAS LEADERSHIP AND TEAM BUILDING SKILLS, BUSINESS ETIQUETTE, AND PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION.

LEADERSHIP FUNDAMENTALS. IT ALSO SAYS HERE THAT THE INTERNSHIPS, THE INTERNS SHOULD BE ABLE OR BE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO PRIOR TO LIKE SUBMITTING THIS OR BRINGING THIS BEFORE A COUNCIL, I LOOKED AT SEVERAL INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AND WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING, AND I JUST WANT US TO HAVE IF WE ARE ALLOWING STUDENTS TO COME INTO OUR CITY, THAT THE PROGRAM IS BENEFICIAL ON ALL FRONTS. SO NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OR INFORMATIONAL SESSION, BUT I WOULD JUST PREFER THAT THIS BE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE TO THOSE STUDENTS. I'M GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, AND THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME REMARKS. AND THEN MISS JESSE. I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN OUR HR DIRECTOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I KNOW WE'VE RUN INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS ANNUALLY. WE'VE INCLUDED GEORGIA TECH, GEORGIA STATE, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS HAD MENTIONED LAST YEAR A PROGRAM YOUTH INTERNS FOR OUR YOUTH. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING A PART OF WHAT WE WERE ALREADY DOING AND GETTING FUNDING FROM FULTON COUNTY YOUTH WORKFORCE WIOA OFFICE, WORKFORCE INNOVATION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING COMES DOWN FOR THIS. I DID JUST DO A QUICK SCAN OF THE QUICK, YOU KNOW, CONTROL OF SOME OF THE BUDGET FOR INTERN. I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE THOSE LINE ITEMS. SO BACK TO THE QUESTION AROUND FUNDING, HOW WE FUNDED IN THE PAST, HOW WE FUNDED IT NOW. BUT I KNOW LAST YEAR WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING AND REALLY REACHING OUT TO FULTON COUNTY AROUND THE SUMMER. YOUTH EMPLOYMENT COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS BROUGHT THAT UP.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL AND THEN MISS JESSE, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, I DO THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. HOWEVER, I THINK I REMEMBER MY SUMMER INTERNSHIP, SO I ACTUALLY GOT COLLEGE CREDITS FOR THIS. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY GET IN COLLEGE CREDITS, BUT I KNOW BEING AN UNDERGRAD, YOU HAVE SO MANY. YOU KNOW, I GOT THE PROBABLY THE BEST EXPERIENCES, YOU KNOW, DOING MY SUMMER INTERNSHIPS. SO I THINK IF WE CAN MAKE THAT A PIECE OF IT TO MAKE SURE THEY BENEFIT IN MORE THAN ONE WAY AND YEAH, IF IT COULD BE ACCREDITED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. THANKS, MISS JESSE. I'LL TURN IT. I SAID I WAS GOING TO MAKE STATEMENTS AND THEN I MADE THEM AND SO I BASICALLY, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE CERTAINLY WELCOME ANY AND ALL IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR INTERNSHIP OFFERINGS. AND YES, WE DO HAVE INTERNSHIPS THAT ARE FOR COLLEGE CREDITS ONLY. WE HAVE PAID AND WE HAVE NON PAID. SO AND IT DEPENDS ON THE SCHOOL REQUIREMENTS. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO DO AN INTERNSHIP IN ORDER TO GRADUATE. SO WHAT WE GENERALLY DO IS TO WE'VE HAD HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THOSE HONESTLY ARE IN MY OPINION THE

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MOST MEANINGFUL BECAUSE THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE BEING INTRODUCED TO THE WORLD OF WORK AND THEY REALLY LATCH ON TO IT AND THEY LOVE IT. A COUPLE OF THE PROGRAMS WE'VE HAD, WE'VE IDENTIFIED STUDENTS WHO WERE HAD ASPIRATIONS TO BE ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, YOU NAME IT, AND THEY WERE WELL ON THEIR WAY IN THEIR FUTURE FIELD OF STUDY. HAD THEY HAD RESEARCHED COLLEGES WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO, ETCETERA, AND SO WE WOULD WELCOME ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY AND ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF INTERNSHIPS PAID NON-PAID COLLEGE CREDIT, SUMMER EMPLOYMENT, INTERNSHIPS. WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. AND. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S SOME TIME BUILT IN. MISS JESSE, I THINK YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT SUMMER OR BECAUSE THIS KIND OF STARTS FOR THIS LOOKS LIKE A TIMELINE. MORE SO FOR SUMMER. IT'S ASSESSING FEBRUARY THROUGH MARCH. SO LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, CONSIDERING THE YOUTH EMPLOYMENT, WE OWE A FUNDS LINE ITEMS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES THAT WE MIGHT WORK WITH. I THINK THE IT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING WITH GEORGIA TECH. BEFORE I KNOW WE WORK WITH GEORGIA STATE, WE ARE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS IN THE AREA. RIGHT. AND SO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT THE JANUARY WORK SESSION LIKE THE LIKE EAST POINTS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, WHETHER I MEAN, THESE ALSO CAN GO YEAR ROUND, RIGHT? KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL. YES, MA'AM. FOR DIFFERENT SEMESTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT'S LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE WHICH INCLUDES SUMMER. WAS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD SHARE WITH US AT THE JANUARY WORK SESSION OR WOULD YOU PREFER FEBRUARY WORK SESSION? I THINK JANUARY, BECAUSE A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR THEIR INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES IN JANUARY, SCHOOLS LET OUT, I THINK IN MAY. SO ONCE YOU GET PAST THE FIRST PART OF MAY, THEY'RE ENGAGED IN FINALS AND SO FORTH, SO WE CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK IN JANUARY. SO IF WE COULD PUT ON THE JANUARY WORK SESSION, EAST POINT, THE CITY OF EAST POINT, INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS. OH, COUNCILMAN BUTLER, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM TO I THINK THE SOLUTION BETWEEN SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, MAYBE THERE'S A NONPROFIT BECAUSE WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE NONPROFIT, BUT IT GAVE US THAT SCHOOLING THAT YOU MENTIONED ON THE WEEKENDS. ALSO, EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE IT TAUGHT YOU WHICH FORK TO EAT WITH AND ALL OF THOSE TYPE OF ETIQUETTE PROGRAMS. YES, BUT SO WHAT TO WHERE? HOW TO GET YOUR RESUME? WHAT SUIT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO WEAR? ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO GO ALONG WITH THAT. SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE NONPROFIT TO DO THAT. ALRIGHTY. JANUARY WORK SESSION.

WORK SESSION. CAN'T TALK. CITY OF EAST POINT INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AND COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM LAST YEAR FOR SUMMER YOUTH, BUT LIKE IF WE CAN KIND OF HAVE ALL OF THAT AS A PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. ALRIGHTY. I THINK 20 AND 21 ARE GOING TO BE QUICK, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO 17. THIS IS 20 IS PURCHASE A POLICE

[IV.20. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Purchase of Police Department Patrol Vehicles Under STATE CONTRACT for a Five-Year Lease from Ford Credit for $863,471.86]

DEPARTMENT, PATROL VEHICLES UNDER STATE CONTRACT. IT'S $863,000, $471.86. IF WE PUT IT ON CONSENT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT. THIS IS ALMOST $1 MILLION ON THIS ITEM. WE CAN EITHER DO IT TONIGHT OR IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO IT AT MONDAY'S MEETING, THEN IT WOULDN'T GO ON THE CONSENT. IT WOULD GO ON THE AGENDA. MAJOR COPELAND, I SAW YOU KIND OF MOVING THIS WAY. WOULD YOU PREFER TO TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT OR MONDAY? IF YOU'RE READY, WE CAN DO IT TONIGHT. YE. YES, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THE REASON WE'RE

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DOING THIS IS, IS TO REPLACE CARS THAT'S BEEN WRECKED OR EITHER WEAR AND TEAR. PLUS, WE GOT NEW OFFICERS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HIRE. AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREE VEHICLES THAT WAS WRECKED ON 285. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, CHIEF WENT OVER THE NUMBERS WITH SHANNON. AND I THINK WE ALSO USED CONDEMNED FUNDS FOR THE INITIAL PAYMENT, WHICH IS DRUG MONEY. HOW MANY VEHICLES? YES, MADAM MAYOR, THIS WAS PART OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS FOR TEN VEHICLES TO BE FUNDED WITH CONDEMNED FUNDS, CONFISCATED FUNDS FOR THE LEASE VEHICLES, CONFISCATED FUNDS. SO THAT'S A REVENUE SOURCE GENERATED THROUGH POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL I KNOW THAT WAS THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

SO GREAT WORK GUYS. I FOUND A NEW FUNDING SOURCE, SO I'LL KEEP IT UP. YEAH, ALMOST $1 MILLION.

KEEP LOOKING, KEEP LOOKING. ALRIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION THIS GOING ON CONSENT.

[IV.21. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Legal Department Renovations]

ALRIGHT. LEGAL DEPARTMENT RENOVATION. THIS DOES INDICATE ACTION MAY BE TAKEN. IT SEEMS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. MAJOR. THE CITY ATTORNEY MAY NEED SOME ACTION TONIGHT.

ATTORNEY WIGGINS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO JUST A QUICK HISTORY. THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF ALYSSA EDMONDS, DID LOOK INTO DOING SOME RENOVATIONS OVER THERE. WE REACHED OUT TO FINANCE WHO INCLUDED US IN THE BUDGET FOR SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WITH THAT, WE HAVE SOUGHT TO DO A STATE CONTRACT WITH. I THINK IT'S SOURCEWELL AND THE CONTRACTOR IS ROUGH ORDER MAGNITUDE. I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. IF IT HASN'T, I CAN CERTAINLY EMAIL IT, BUT IT IS TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS WHICH INCLUDE THE BATHROOM. IT ALSO INCLUDES THE CARPET, SOME PAINTING. SEE WHAT ELSE. AND THE PAINTING WOULD INCLUDE THE INTERIOR WALLS, DOORS AND DOOR FRAMES. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OVER TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS YOU KNOW IT IS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SLASH COURTHOUSE, SLASH JAIL AND THE SUITE THAT WE OCCUPY USED TO BE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REMNANTS OF IT LOOKING AS SUCH. AND THERE ARE THERE'S SOME SEVERE DISREPAIR WITH THE CEILING TILES THAT ARE IN THERE. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BREAKDOWN AS WELL. AND SO WITH THE STATE CONTRACT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE PRICING DOWN FROM, I THINK IT HAD ORIGINALLY STARTED AT ABOUT 165 DOWN TO 82 FIVE. SO I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON AT THIS TIME. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA IS LIKE JUST INVITATIONS FOR BIDS. SO I GUESS THE STATE CONTRACTS THAT THESE VENDORS ARE FROM. BUT I THINK UNLESS I'M DIDN'T CLICK ON AN ATTACHMENT, I DON'T SEE THE ITEMIZATION OF WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR. AND SO IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WENT FROM 160 TO 80 SOMETHING THOUSAND. GREAT JOB ON THAT 50% DISCOUNT. YOU MUST HAVE A MAJOR NEGOTIATION SKILLS. BUT LIKE IF YOU COULD SHARE WHAT IT IS AND THEN THE TOTAL AMOUNT, THEN WE COULD SEE IF COUNCIL WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I CAN DO THAT. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT.