[II.2. Georgia Association of Water Professionals; Georgia Section of American Water Works Association Presentation of Water Distribution Excellence Gold Award to City of East Point Water Resources in Recognition of Outstanding Operation of Water Distribution During 2024]

PROFESSIONALS, GEORGIA SECTION OF AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION. PRESENTATION OF WATER DISTRIBUTION EXCELLENCE GOAL AWARD TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT WATER RESOURCES IN RECOGNITION OF OUTSTANDING OPERATION OF WATER DISTRIBUTION DURING 2020 FOUR. MADAM INTERIM CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I AM ASKING MELISSA ECHEVARRIA

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TO COME FORWARD. PLEASE. DIRECTOR OF WATER AND SEWER. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU MISS PAM BURNETT, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS. THANKS, MELISSA. OH, IT'S SUCH A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS, AND IN FACT, WE HAVEN'T HAD AN AWARD TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT FOR MANY YEARS. SO THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL, REALLY, FOR OUR ASSOCIATION AND FOR ME. I WANTED TO TELL YOU, I'M. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS. WE HAVE BEEN THE PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE THAT TREAT YOUR DRINKING WATER, WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER SINCE 1932. SO WE'VE BEEN AROUND A VERY LONG TIME. WE DO THE PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATION TRAINING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WE RECOGNIZE EXCELLENCE. THAT'S WHAT OUR ROLE REALLY IS. AND THE PURPOSE FOR RECOGNIZING EXCELLENCE THROUGH OUR AWARDS IS SO THAT WE RAISE THE BAR FOR NOT ONLY YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT FOR EVERY COMMUNITY IN GEORGIA. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENS. SO WHEN CITY OF EAST POINT APPLIED FOR AN AWARD THROUGH GWP, IT'S A VERY OVERWHELMING TASK. THERE'S A IT'S A BIG COMMITMENT. YOU APPLY FOR THE AWARD AND THEN YOU FILL OUT A LOT OF PAPERWORK, AND THEN YOU OPEN YOUR DOORS TO OTHER WATER PROFESSIONALS. AND THESE ARE THEY COULD BE CONSULTING ENGINEERS, PEOPLE FROM OTHER UTILITIES, ENGINEERS, SCIENTISTS, OUR MEMBERS THAT COME IN. YOU OPEN YOUR DOORS AND YOU LET THEM LOOK AT LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION AND THEY SCORE. THEY PROVIDE A SCORE FROM A FROM 1 TO 100, AND YOU HAVE TO SCORE 95% OR GREATER TO BE EVEN ELIGIBLE FOR THE AWARD. SO THE CITY OF EAST POINT OPENED THE DOORS, ALLOWED OUR TEAM OF AUDITORS TO COME IN, LOOK AT EVERYTHING, AND I PROMISE YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE A JURY OF YOUR PEERS, EVERYBODY WANTS TO LEARN FROM YOU. BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME PLACE WHERE THEY COULD SHOW WHERE YOU COULD BE BETTER. SO YOU CAN. THERE'S SO MANY PLACES WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A POINT TAKEN OFF AND NICKED AND NOT RECEIVE THAT 95%. BUT THIS TEAM BEHIND ME HERE ALL DID AN AMAZING JOB, HIT THE MARK AND RECEIVED THE AWARD. AND THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL TO ACHIEVE THAT LEVEL OF OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE. AND BELIEVE ME, IT MEANS A LOT TO THE STATE OF GEORGIA. NOT JUST YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT A LOT TO OTHERS. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE WATER PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE BEHIND THE SCENES EVERY DAY, DOING THEIR JOB, DOING IT SO WELL, BUT ALSO TO YOU FOR BEING THE LEADERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND SUPPORTING THEM WITH WITH THE RESOURCES THEY NEED AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT BECAUSE IT TAKES THAT WHEN YOU'RE A BEHIND THE SCENES WORKER, IT TAKES. IT TAKES RECOGNITION AND ENCOURAGEMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DO WANT TO MENTION TO YOU, AS I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WE DO SERVE OVER 10,000 WATER PROFESSIONALS IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. THIS IS VIRTUALLY EVERY UTILITY WORKER AND ALL OF THE INDUSTRIES AND CONSULTING FIRMS THAT SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY ARE PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION. WE HAVE WE ARE REALLY THRILLED TO RECOGNIZE GARY MCCOY AS OUR INCOMING PRESIDENT, BY THE WAY, NEXT YEAR. THAT'S AN HONOR. GARY HAS BEEN IN THIS IN THIS PROFESSION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

I THINK MAYBE AS LONG AS I HAVE, AND THAT'S 47 YEARS FOR ME. IT'S A LONG TIME. SO FOR GARY TO BE RECOGNIZED, IT'S AN ELECTED POSITION AND HE'S RECOGNIZED AND COMING INTO HE'LL BE THE ONES TO BE THE ONE TO SIGN THESE AWARDS NEXT YEAR. BUT FOR NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS GOLD AWARD TO MELISSA GUEVARA WITH MY GREAT APPRECIATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M I'M EXCITED. THIS HAS BEEN A DREAM. AND I HAVE PREPARED A SHORT SPEECH BECAUSE I DID NOT DO THIS. I WORKED WITH A GREAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE SUPPORT SYSTEM THROUGH MAYOR, COUNCIL, EVEN RESIDENTS AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE MY THANKS TO YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE CONTINUED SUPPORT AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE YOU PROVIDE, AND ASSISTING MUNICIPALITIES IN THE

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ADVANCEMENT OF DRINKING WATER FOR THE HEALTH, LIFE AND SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE WATER RESOURCE DEPARTMENT IN RENOVATING, REPAIRING AND MAKING THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR DRINKING WATER SYSTEM. WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF EAST POINT RESIDENTS SUPPORTING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX, THIS AWARD AND RECOGNITION WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. THROUGH YOUR SUPPORT, CRITICAL WATER LINES, SEWER LINES AND WATER TREATMENT PLANT RENOVATIONS WERE COMPLETED. THIS AWARD WAS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE ASSISTANCE OF MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT CO-PARTNERED AND ASSISTED US WITH THE AUDIT, THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TEAM. PLEASE STAND AS I ADDRESS YOU, PLEASE. SPECIAL THANKS TO THE PROJECT MANAGER, ALYSSA EDMONDS AND ERIC EMMETT. THANK YOU. GARY LACROIX, WHO IS THE NEW PLANT MANAGER. WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR EXPERTISE AND ASSISTANCE. AND TO THE WATER RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, PLEASE STAND. WE ARE COMPOSED OF 59 PEOPLE WITHIN SEVEN DIVISIONS. WE WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR. WE WORK IN VARIOUS WEATHER CONDITIONS, SOMETIMES FOR DAYS. DURING EMERGENCIES. WE SACRIFICE OUR TIME WITH OUR FAMILIES, INCLUDING HOLIDAYS. ALL FOR THE LIFE, HEALTH, SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. THIS AWARD ACKNOWLEDGES THE WATER RESOURCES, YOUR HARD WORK, YOUR DEDICATION AND IT IS AN HONOR TO WORK BESIDE YOU EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS FOR RECOGNIZING THE EXEMPLARY AND OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP AND WORK OF OUR WATER RESOURCES DIRECTOR, MELISSA ECHEVARRIA, AS WELL AS THE WHOLE WATER RESOURCES TEAM.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS IN OUR CITY THAT WORK WHEN WE'RE ALL ASLEEP, WORK THROUGH CHALLENGING CIRCUMSTANCES, INCLEMENT WEATHER, RUN TO DANGEROUS SITUATIONS OR SITUATIONS THAT MAY BE CHALLENGING. WHEN I'M A VERY CAUTIOUS PERSON, I RUN FROM, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TO EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE EAST WATER RESOURCES TEAM. THANK YOU. I TELL PEOPLE WATER IS NOT LIKE WIDGETS. WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING AN ISSUE WITH THE WATER, YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND BUY NEW WIDGETS, RIGHT? IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DRINK. WE NEED IT TO LIVE. WE NEED IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE TO ENSURE THAT EASTPOINTE'S WATER IS SAFE AND THAT WE HAVE CLEAN DRINKING WATER FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO ENSURE THE LIFE, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO NOT ONLY OUR RESIDENTS, WE ALSO PROVIDE WATER TO COLLEGE PARK.

HEY. HEY, VILLE. AND IS THAT IT? YES, YES. COLLEGE PARK VILLE AND THE RESIDENTS OF EAST POINT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU TO THE WHOLE ENTIRE TEAM THAT MADE THIS POSSIBLE. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS FOR RECOGNIZING THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND IT'S BEEN IMPACT NOT ONLY ON EAST POINT, BUT THE ENTIRE STATE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 27 ONE THING I WAS GOING TO HAVE A PICTURE. CAN I TAKE A PICTURE? OH ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY YES.

COME ON DOWN. YES PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. YES. THAT ONE THAT WAS. YES. THREE. TWO ONE. OKAY. WELL, YOU SAID THAT. YOU SAY

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THAT. OKAY. YES. BUT I SAY YES TO ONE. ONE MORE. SO READY? YES. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

SO. MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE THE I WILL. PLEASE DON'T LEAVE YET. PLEASE DON'T LEAVE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU GUYS AS SOON AS THE MAYOR ACKNOWLEDGES ME. ALRIGHT. COUNCILMAN BUTLER, AND THEN ANY OTHER COUNCIL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY PERSONALLY, THE REASON WHY I ASK YOU TO STAY IS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD YOU GUYS WORK. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S NOT ONE DAY OF ONE MINUTE THAT I DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS CITY. AND I'M HUMBLED BY THE HARD WORK YOU DO. AND TO MELISSA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LOBBIED HARD FOR YOU TO COME BACK, AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU. AND IT'S EVIDENT ABOUT THIS AWARD THAT WHAT YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS DONE FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. I SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS. BUT WE GREATLY, GREATLY, GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU.

AND THEN LET'S GO TO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION, WHICH IS ALSO INDICATIVE OF YOUR GREAT LEADERSHIP IN THE EAST POINT WATER RESOURCE INFRASTRUCTURE ACT THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED RECENTLY. THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT SENATOR JON OSSOFF COMING HERE TOURING EAST POINT. SENATOR WARNOCK AND CONGRESSWOMAN WILLIAMS HAVE ALSO BEEN HERE, PROVIDED FUNDING FOR OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT PLEASE SHARE AN OVERVIEW TONIGHT ON THAT. AND THEN COUNCIL, WHAT WILL BE NEEDED THAT THE AGENDA DOES INDICATE THAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN TONIGHT. AND SO WHAT IS BEING SHARED. IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT ON THIS REQUEST, MISS ECHEVARRIA.

[IV.27. Council Discussion and Action on Proposal Submitted for the Report to Congress on Future Water Resources Development, 25% Minimum Required Match (Action May be Taken)]

OKAY. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MEMBERS, ITEM NUMBER 727. EXCUSE ME. THE WATER RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT ACT OF 2022 IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE ACT. IT AUTHORIZES THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS UNDER SECTION 219 OF THE WATER RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT ACT TO PROVIDE THE CITY OF EAST POINT UP TO ORIGINALLY $15 MILLION FOR THE ENHANCEMENT OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. LAST YEAR, WE SUBMITTED THE REQUEST OF AN ADDITIONAL 15 MILLION, SO A TOTAL OF POSSIBLY UP TO $30 MILLION WILL BE GRANTED TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT TONIGHT. MY REQUEST IS THERE IS A 25% MATCH. IN THAT. IF WE GET THE $15 MILLION, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE $3,750,000. IF WE DO 30 MILLION, IT WOULD BE 7 MILLION, 7 MILLION, $575,000. MY CAPITAL BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE ENTIRE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT IS $10.1 MILLION. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COMPLETE 15 OR $30 MILLION OF RENOVATIONS AND REPAIRS IN ONE FISCAL YEAR.

SO MY GOAL TODAY IS TO REQUEST THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEND A LETTER OF INTENT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE CAN SUPPLY THE FUNDING MATCH, BUT JUST KNOW THIS WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THE WATER RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. MY PLAN FOR THIS FUNDING IS TO REHABILITATE OVER 22 MILES OF WATER LINES FROM SWEETWATER CREEK STATE PARK IN DOUGLASVILLE. THESE LINES ARE AGED, THEY ARE OLD, AND WE AVERAGE EVERY YEAR UP TO $2 MILLION JUST IN REPAIRS. SO THE GOAL IS TO REHABILITATE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THE GOAL TODAY IS TO SEE IF YOU CAN TAKE ACTION, THAT WE CAN SUPPLY A LETTER FOR 25% POSSIBLE MATCH FOR FEDERAL FUNDING. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MELISSA, WITH THE MATCH THAT YOU'RE ASKING AND WITH YOUR $10 MILLION BUDGET DOES THAT INCLUDES OUR OPTION SALES TAX REVENUE. YES. SO OUR CAPITAL BUDGET BECAUSE OF THE MISSING OF OPTION OF SALES TAX IS INCLUDED. THAT'S NOT MY BUDGET. THAT IS JUST THE CAPITAL BUDGET WHERE WE FUND

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INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THE GOAL HERE IS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PAY THE 25% AND DIVIDE IT UP AMONGST TWO FISCAL YEARS AND IS FUNDED BY OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET. SO THE GOAL IS WE DO HAVE FUNDS FOR THE 25% MATCH. SO WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS THAT'S IN YOUR 10 MILLION. AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS SPREAD OVER 24 MONTHS, TWO FISCAL YEARS. WELL IT'S PROBABLY BE LONGER THAN THAT.

THAT'S A LOT OF FUNDING, A LOT OF PLANNING, A LOT OF ENGINEERING. AND WITH FEDERAL FUNDING, WE HAVE TO PUT EVERYTHING OUT FOR BID. SO THAT PROCESS ALONE IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 6 TO 12 MONTHS JUST FOR THE SPECS TO BE DEVELOPED AND TO HAVE COMPANIES A FAIR OPPORTUNITY OF BIDDING ON THAT WORK. AND AGAIN, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF YEARS TO EVEN FINISH THE WORK. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR FEDERAL PERMITS. WE HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM EPA. IT IS A DEFINITELY AN INTRICATE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE PROCESS WITH GETTING THE NECESSARY PERMITS TO DO ANY TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK OR ENVIRONMENTAL WORK IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. I'M JUST THE $7 MILLION. WHEN DO YOU NEED THAT? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO IT DEPENDS WHEN THEY'RE AUTHORIZED. SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE VOTING. AND RIGHT NOW WE JUST NEED TO BE IN RECEIPT OF THE FUNDING. WE DON'T GIVE THAT MONEY TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHEN WE START RECEIVING THE FUNDS, WE MATCH 25% OF EACH PROJECT THEY'VE APPROVED WITH THE FUNDING TO PAY THE INVOICE OUT TO. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE.

THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. THERE IS ONE OTHER PERSON IN SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. WE CAN GET A SECOND AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS, I'LL HAVE YOU ON DISCUSSION. OKAY. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROPOSED SUBMITTED, SUBMITTED FOR THE REPORT TO CONGRESS ON FUTURE WATER RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT AT A 25% MINIMUM REQUEST MATCH. SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED. DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE FIRST QUESTION HOW THE FUNDING WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO COME WITH OUR MATCH. SO YOU SAY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON AS THOSE PROJECTS COME AS WE START ON THOSE PROJECTS AND HOWEVER, WHATEVER THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, WE'LL PAY 25% OF THAT. YES. NOW, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF TIMELINE? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING DOING 25 MILES, 22 MILES OF INFRASTRUCTURE. IS THERE WHAT TYPE OF TIMELINE ARE WE LOOKING AT? LIKE I SAID, OUR LINES ARE CROSSED. SEVERAL CITIES. OKAY, SO WE HAVE TO GET PERMITS. SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO PROBABLY BE IN THE WAY OF STATE ROUTES. IT'S A LOT OF PERMITTING THAT WE HAVE TO DO. WE ALSO HAVE TO REPLACE AND RENOVATE THE LINES WHILE STILL PROVIDING WATER TO YOU ALL. SO WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A CONTINGENCY PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SERVICES TO YOU DO NOT STOP. SO AGAIN, I DO THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT, A LOT OF PLANNING. I HAVE NO PROBLEM. AFTER THEY AWARD US. WE HAVE TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL. ANYWAY. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A LETTER OF FOR THE 25% MATCH. WHEN THE AWARD IS GIVEN, I HAVE TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU. SO YOU ACCEPT IT AND THEN BY THAT TIME I CAN HAVE SOME TIMELINES. I CAN HAVE DEFINITELY SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START FIRST AND PROBABLY TELL YOU THE DEADLINES FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MONEY TO BE SPENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WILL THAT PRETTY MUCH ANSWER THE QUESTION. THANK YOU.

OKAY. SO BASICALLY COUNCIL IS COMMITTING TO COVER 25% OF PROJECTS COVERED OR THAT WE RECEIVE THIS FUNDING FOR. AND SO THE LEGISLATION AUTHORIZES UP TO IT WENT FROM 15 MILLION TO 20 MILLION. THE WATER RESOURCE DIRECTOR HAS ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10 MILLION FOR OTHER PROJECTS. AND SO THAT ASK TONIGHT IS THAT THE LETTER OF INTENT BE ABLE TO SAY, 25% OF PROJECTS UP TO THE MAXIMUM, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IF IT EXCEEDS THAT? IT WOULD BE GREAT, RIGHT? IF IT WOULD EXCEED ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. BUT THE IT'LL HAVE LANGUAGE LIKE UP TO 25% MATCH OF UP TO 30 MILLION TO JUST GIVE US THE MAXIMUM RUNWAY. EVEN THOUGH THE LEGISLATION AUTHORIZE IT, IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS TO ACTUALLY GET THE FUNDS APPROPRIATED. BUT THIS IS HUGE FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO BE AUTHORIZED FOR THIS AMOUNT OF FUNDING. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO SENATOR OSSOFF AND TO PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR SIGNING THE ACT INTO LAW RECENTLY AND TO OUR GREAT LEADER. SO IT'S A MOTION TO SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

OTHER QUICK QUESTION. SO YOU SAID IT CAN GO UP TO 30%. COULD YOU, UP TO 30 MILLION, SO THAT WE'LL BE COVERING 25% OF PROJECTS FUNDED, UP TO 30 MILLION. SO THAT WOULD INCREASE IT TO 77.5 AT THE 25% MATCH. YES. RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD BE OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. OKAY. SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME OUT OF ONE FISCAL YEAR. IT'S LIKELY TO BE 2 OR 3 FISCAL YEARS. OKAY. OKAY.

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THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET ME ASK. I FORGOT TO ASK AS WE WENT THROUGH. AND WE PUT A NUMBER OF THINGS ON CONSENT. I WHAT ITEMS DO WE HAVE NON STAFF HERE ON. SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN. MIAMI AND THAT'S THE REZONING I HAVE THOSE THREE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE

[II.1. Economic Development Strategy Plan Presentation Status Update 2025]

WILL GO TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN PRESENTATION STATUS UPDATE. AND THEN WE'LL DO MIAMI AND FINISH OUR PRESENTATIONS. AND THEN WE WILL AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS WE WILL TAKE THE AGENDA ITEM THAT HAS AN APPLICANT HERE AS WELL. THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 32. MR. ROGERS OR MISS JESSE I SHOULD SAY. MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MACY ROGERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, IS HERE TO DISCUSS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE. THANK YOU. INTERIM CITY MANAGER JESSE. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MACY ROGERS, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND OF COURSE, CONGRATULATIONS TO MELISSA ONCE AGAIN. TODAY WE HAVE MR. JEFF KOWSKI, PRESIDENT OF KB ADVISORY GROUP AND TEAM HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PLAN THAT HAS NOW BEEN GOING ON OVER SEVERAL MONTHS. AND SO AT THIS POINT, MR. KOSKI AND TEAM WILL BE HERE TO PROVIDE THE UPDATE.

THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS. MAYOR, COUNCIL, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN. YOU MAY REMEMBER, THIS IS GABBY OLIVERIO. WE WERE WITH YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO TO KICK THIS PROJECT OFF, AND WE'VE BEEN HARD AT WORK. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME HERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE ENJOYED OURSELVES AND HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF INPUT. WE ARE, I GUESS, PUT IT IN AIRPLANE TERMS. WE'RE ABOUT READY TO START OUR INITIAL DESCENT WITH THIS PLAN. THE LANDING WHEELS ARE NOT QUITE DOWN YET, BUT WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THERE AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON ON SCHEDULE. WE'VE GOT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO. BUT BEFORE WE GET THERE, WE WANTED TO COME TO YOU AND JUST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR HERE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE FOUND, WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH MANY OF YOU ALONG THE WAY, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. ONE ON ONE MEETINGS, COMMITTEE MEETINGS, GROUP MEETINGS. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MEETINGS, AND MANY OF YOU HAVE GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED INPUT IN YOUR TIME. AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. LET'S SEE. HERE WE GO. SO THIS IS JUST A KIND OF THUMBNAIL SKETCH OF THE OF THE CALENDAR OF EVENTS. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE REALLY GOT STARTED IN JUNE. WE DID A LOT OF DATA DIGGING AND ANALYZING IN THE SUMMER INTO FALL. WE STARTED IN THE FALL STARTING TO PUT TOGETHER SOME GOALS AND STRATEGIES, AND WE'RE ABOUT READY TO PUT TOGETHER THE DRAFT PLAN. WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. WE ARE CIRCULATING AMONG STAFF THE ACTION PLAN. SO WE'RE ABOUT READY TO FINALIZE THE ACTION PLAN. THE DRAFT ACTION PLAN, IF YOU WILL. AND AT THAT POINT, THE FULL DRAFT PLAN WILL BE READY AND WILL BE READY TO SOCIALIZE IT AMONG YOU ALL AND CERTAINLY WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT. AND AGAIN, AS WE'LL SAY THIS AGAIN AT THE END. BUT ALONG THE WAY, AS YOU HEAR FROM US, AS WE START TO AGAIN SEND AROUND THE DRAFT PLAN, THE DRAFT ACTION PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS, WE WELCOME YOUR INPUT. IF WE NEED TO KIND OF GET TOGETHER AGAIN AND SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE TO THE PLAN ITSELF, WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU ONE ON ONE OR HOWEVER WE NEED TO DO IT. SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A SENSE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO, GIVE YOU SOME OF THE INITIAL FINDINGS AND GET INTO REALLY THE GOALS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED THAT ARE THAT ARE GUIDING THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE.

WE'RE ON SCHEDULE TO HAVE THIS PLAN POTENTIALLY READY FOR ADOPTION BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, BEGINNING OF MARCH. OF COURSE, THAT ALL WILL BE UP TO YOUR ALL'S SCHEDULE AND HOW YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT. BUT THE PLAN SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE READY TO BE CONSIDERED BY YOU ALL IN ITS FINAL FORM OR IN, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A MONTH, IF YOU WILL. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT

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OVER TO GABBY JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU, AGAIN, SOME HIGHLIGHTS, GIVE YOU A PREVIEW.

THIS IS REALLY WHAT THIS IS TONIGHT. JUST A PREVIEW OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FULL PLAN, STARTING WITH SOME OF THE DATA ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO THE GOALS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED FOR THE PLAN ITSELF. AND AGAIN, REMEMBER THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. IT'S AN UPDATE TO THE PLAN THAT OUR FIRM HAD DONE ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO FOR YOU. ALL THAT HAS BEEN GUIDING MR. ROGERS AND HIS STAFF. AND SO THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST SORT OF GIVING THAT PLAN A REFRESH, TAKING A LOOK AT WHERE THINGS ARE IN THE WORLD OF EASTPOINT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND REALLY THIS BECOMES SORT OF HIS WORK PLAN FOR REALLY POTENTIALLY THE NEXT TEN YEARS, AT LEAST THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR SURE. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT ESTABLISHES THE BASELINE OF WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND PROVIDES A PATH FORWARD FOR THE INITIATIVES OF THE CITY AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORLD. SO WE'LL START OFF WITH JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU SOME INITIAL DATA, AND GABBY WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT. THANK YOU. JEFF, PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU ALL AGAIN TONIGHT. SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID AS WE STARTED THIS PLAN WAS KIND OF DO OUR DATA DEEP DIVE TO ESTABLISH AN EXISTING BASELINE FOR YOU ALL, BECAUSE OF COURSE IT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE CURRENTLY AT, BUT IT ALSO KIND OF HELPS TIE IN THE FACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INFLUENCING MACEO AND HIS TEAM'S ABILITY TO DO THEIR WORK FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT, BECAUSE THE MAIN IDEA IS THAT THEIR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN AND RETAIN THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE WITHIN YOUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO ATTRACT THE BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRY THAT COULD HELP DRIVE AND CONTINUE EAST POINT'S GROWTH. SO FROM THE MAIN DEMOGRAPHIC HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE PULLED, WHAT STUCK OUT TO US THE MOST WAS THE FACT THAT WHILE EAST POINT HAS, OF COURSE BEEN GROWING JUST LIKE THE REGION, WE HAVE ALMOST 40,000 RESIDENTS. THAT GROWTH THAT EAST POINT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING HAS NOT BEEN QUITE AS HIGH AS THE REGION OVERALL, AND ALSO NOT AS HIGH AS JUST THE SOUTHERN FULTON COUNTY AREA. AND THERE ARE MANY REASONS THAT THAT COULD BE HAPPENING. BUT REGARDLESS OF THOSE REASONS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE IF THAT TREND WERE TO CONTINUE, IT CAN GREATLY INHIBIT THE GOALS FOR YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT BUSINESSES AN INDUSTRY, RIGHT, THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT. AND ANOTHER THING IS THAT IN TERMS OF YOUR EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY, ALMOST A THIRD OF THE RESIDENTS ONLY HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. AND AS WE KNOW, NOT ALL BUSINESSES, NOT ALL INDUSTRIES REQUIRE A COLLEGE LEVEL DEGREE OR HIGHER. BUT IT DEPENDS IF YOUR PRIORITY IS TO ATTRACT MAYBE MORE TECHNICAL INDUSTRIES, INDUSTRIES THAT REQUIRE MORE, LIKE I SAID, TO BE MORE SPECIALIZED. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THOSE BUSINESSES WILL BE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. AND OF COURSE, AND WE'LL GO INTO THIS WHEN WE GO INTO OUR GOALS, IS THAT THE IDEA IS THAT YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS ATTRACTING BUSINESSES THAT WILL THEN ALSO BE EMPLOYING EAST POINT RESIDENTS. SO THIS KIND OF SPEAKS TO A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY. BUT SOMETHING THAT IS WOULD BE A PLUS FOR THOSE BRT EFFORTS IS THE FACT THAT 1 IN 3 RESIDENTS ARE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 25 TO 44. THOSE ARE SYNONYMOUS WITH WHAT WE CALL YOUR EARLY TO MID CAREER PROFESSIONALS. RIGHT? SO THIS IS AN AGE GROUP THAT A LOT OF BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIES WILL KIND OF TARGET, BECAUSE IF THEY CAN EMPLOY SOMEONE AT ENTRY TO MID LEVEL IN THEIR 30 LATE 20S, EARLY 30S, RIGHT. AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RETAIN THEM AS A WORKER. RIGHT. THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAN STAY WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME. THAT'S A JOB THAT THEY WON'T HAVE TO REFILL. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND LOOKING AT SOME OF YOUR ECONOMIC HIGHLIGHTS, RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE OVER 1400 BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOY ALMOST 16,000 WORKERS. YOUR INDUSTRY THAT EMPLOYS THE MOST PEOPLE WITHIN IS YOUR ACCOMMODATION, FOOD SERVICE.

RIGHT. YOU HAVE A STRONG RESTAURANT BASE. YOU HAVE YOUR HOTEL DISTRICT, RIGHT? YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT. AND TO THAT END, YOU'RE YOU HAVE ALMOST 19,000 RESIDENT WORKERS IN THE INDUSTRY THAT THEY WORK IN. THE MOST, OF COURSE, IS TRANSPORTATION AND WAREHOUSING.

OR YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE. TRANSPORTATION AND DISTRIBUTION ARE MORALLY BIG THERE. BUT OF COURSE, AGAIN, THAT ALSO IS TIED TO YOUR PROXIMITY TO THE AIRPORT. BUT THE MAIN METRIC THAT WILL DRIVE A LOT OF YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME. BECAUSE A LOT OF BUSINESSES, WHEN THEY WANT TO MOVE INTO AN AREA, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT SOMETHING LIKE A GROCER, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE HEARD ABOUT A LOT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THEIR MAIN METRICS THEY LOOK AT IS MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME WITHIN THEIR TRADE AREA OR SOME OTHER EQUIVALENT OF SPENDING POTENTIAL, AND HOW TO ACHIEVE THAT CAN BE THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS. WHETHER YOU ATTRACT MORE INDUSTRIES THAT OFFER HIGHER PAYING JOBS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S THE IDEA AGAIN OF THAT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT

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MAKING SURE THAT EXISTING RESIDENTS CAN BE CONNECTED OR RETRAINED OR RESKILLED TO ATTAIN THOSE JOBS AND HAVE HIGHER PAYING ONES. SO THE REAL ESTATE HIGHLIGHTS OF YOUR 30,000,000FTS OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SPACE, ALMOST HALF WAS DELIVERED PRIOR TO 1980. RIGHT. SO IT'S A IT'S A MORE OF AN AGE STOCK, IF YOU WILL, IN THAT REGARD. THAT MEANS THAT IS, IN A LOT OF WAYS, CAN BE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR VARIOUS TENANTS AND VARIOUS BUSINESSES. RIGHT. YOUR OCCUPANCY LEVELS ACROSS YOUR VARIOUS REAL ESTATE TYPES IS REALLY HIGH. SO IT'S WHAT IS HERE IS SERVING A NEED AND MEETING A DEMAND. OF COURSE, THE REAL ESTATE TYPE, OF COURSE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS DESMOND DELIVERED CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE DECADES. IS YOUR INDUSTRIAL AND FLEX SPACE? RIGHT? A LOT OF THE NEWER SPACE HAS BEEN IN YOUR SOUTH MEADOW AREA. YOUR MULTIFAMILY HAS BEEN GROWING A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT EVEN WITH THAT, WITH IT'S KIND OF GROWING A BIT MORE SINCE THE 2000, IS THAT LOOKING AT YOUR OVERALL HOUSING UNIT GROWTH? IT HAS BEEN PRETTY MARGINAL SINCE 2010, WHERE EAST POINT HAS HAD MAYBE ABOUT 5% INCREASE IN OVERALL HOUSING UNITS OVER THAT TIME. THE ATLANTA REGION, OR EVEN JUST EVEN SOUTHERN FULTON COUNTY, SOUTHERN FULTON COUNTY AREA ALONE HAS BEEN GROWING BY 20 OR 30%. SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THAT WILL KIND OF LIMIT OR INHIBIT YOUR POPULATION GROWTH, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE MORE DIVERSE HOUSING, DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS, THAT HELPS KIND OF MEET THE NEEDS OF PREFERENCES OF A WIDER RANGE OF PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE IT EASIER TO RECRUIT WORKERS AND OTHER RESIDENTS AND RETAIN THE ONES THAT ARE HERE AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR DIFFERENT LIFE STAGES. AND SO FROM THERE, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO OUR ENGAGEMENT HIGHLIGHTS.

JEFF HAD MENTIONED ALLUDED TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO WE FROM OUR PUBLIC INPUT PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, TWO SURVEYS GOING FROM AUGUST TO DECEMBER, ONE FOR JUST, YOU KNOW, CATERED, CATERED TOWARD RESIDENTS, ONE FOR BUSINESSES. WE ALSO HAD FOR IN-PERSON COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITIES. WE STARTED WITH A COMMUNITY MEETING HERE AT CITY HALL. WE HAD A LOT OF INPUT. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT. IT WAS A REALLY GOOD SHOWING, WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE. WE ALSO HAD TWO BUSINESS LUNCH AND LEARNS THAT WERE HERE JUST TO KIND OF GET MORE SPECIFIC ON HOW THE BUSINESSES ARE VIEWING THINGS, THEIR CHALLENGES THAT THEY WERE HAVING. THOSE WERE ALSO VERY WELL ATTENDED. AND THEN AT THE END IN NOVEMBER, WE KIND OF ENDED WITH A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE THAT SHOWCASED A LOT OF THE MATERIAL THAT I'M SHOWING YOU TODAY, SO THE COMMUNITY COULD STILL SEE WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN SINCE THOSE IN-PERSON SESSIONS, WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE SURVEYS, AND THEY CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN AT. AND THEN SOMETHING WE WERE ALSO WORKING WITH IS WE TALKED TO A VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS. SO BOTH LOCALLY HERE, WE TALKED FOR EXAMPLE, TO TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL. WE'VE TALKED TO EAST POINT POWER.

VISIT EAST POINT, YOUR CVB. WE TALKED TO REGIONAL PARTNERS. SO THE AEROTROPOLIS, THE SIDS, METRO ATLANTA CHAMBER. WE'VE ALSO EVEN TALKED TO STATE STAKEHOLDERS SUCH AS THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THE SWOT AND THE SURVEY RESULTS, THAT YOU WILL HAVE MUCH MORE IN DEPTH ACCESS TO WHEN YOU GET THE FULL REPORT TO LIST IT ALL OUT. BUT SOMETHING THAT STRUCK US DURING THIS WHOLE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHO WE TALKED TO, EVERYONE WAS VERY EXCITED AND EAGER TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS. EVERYONE WAS VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT EAST POINT AND WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER AND WHAT IT CAN BE. WHAT IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST DOESN'T HAVE TO DEFINE WHERE IT'S GOING INTO THE FUTURE, AND THAT EVEN STAKEHOLDERS WHO WE'VE SPOKEN WITH, WHO PERSONALLY HADN'T SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN EAST POINT OR KNEW MUCH ABOUT IT, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE INVITED AND TOLD US THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU ALL AND CONTINUE KIND OF WITH MACEO, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE MENTIONED THIS AT THE BEGINNING, IS THAT EAST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A IT'S A TEAM SPORT, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T DO IT ALONE, ESPECIALLY AS A CITY.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT YOU ALL CAN DO. AND SO HAVING ENTHUSIASTIC PARTNERS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS A BUSINESS OR AN INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, TALKS TO METRO ATLANTA CHAMBER, TALKS TO THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT. WHEN THEY COME TO THEM, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EAST POINT IS TOP OF MIND TO THEM, SO THEY CAN RECOMMEND THAT THEY COME HERE AND VISIT YOUR COMMUNITY AND BE A PART OF IT. AND WITH THAT, THAT GOES INTO OUR TARGET INDUSTRIES. SO WE SO IN COMBINATION TO STAKEHOLDER CONVERSATIONS, TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, SEEING WHAT THE DATA TOLD US, WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH FOR, YOU KNOW, BROADER TARGET INDUSTRIES THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS OF YOUR BUSINESS RETENTION, RECRUITMENT EFFORTS OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY INDUSTRIES THAT YOU WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU RECRUIT FOR, BUT IT'S YOUR FOCUS AND YOUR BLUEPRINT TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION. SO THE FIRST IS FOOD AND WELLNESS. THE SECOND IS TOURISM AND RECREATION. THE SECOND IS MULTIMEDIA PRODUCTION AND ENTERTAINMENT, AND THE LAST IS DIGITAL DESIGN AND AUTOMATION. SO THE FIRST THREE ARE OR HEAVILY BASED ON AN EXISTING FRAMEWORK AND ECONOMIC ECOSYSTEM THAT ARE WITHIN EASTPOINT. SO THE IDEA OF THEMES IS WHAT KIND OF INDUSTRIES AND BUSINESSES CAN MACY AND HIS TEAM TRY TO RECRUIT FOR TO HELP BUILD IT UP AND GROW IT? AND THEN DIGITAL IS ON. AUTOMATION IS THINKING OF WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR EASTPOINT, RIGHT. INSTEAD OF FOCUSING, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY ON TRANSPORTATION DISTRIBUTION TIED TO THE AIRPORT, WHAT IS THE NEW INDUSTRY AND GROWTH ASPECT

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THAT EASTPOINT CAN BE FOCUSING ON TO THE FUTURE AND THE CORRESPONDING REGIONAL ASSETS THAT IT CAN LEVERAGE IN ORDER TO DO SO? AND IMPORTANTLY, ALSO ALL FOUR OF THESE, FROM A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, ARE ALL TIED TO CAREER PATHWAYS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST WITHIN TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE IDEA IS THAT IF MACEO RECRUITS THESE INDUSTRIES AND BUSINESSES HERE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT EASTPOINT RESIDENTS CURRENTLY STUDENTS IN IN THE FUTURE, GOING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, ARE BEING TRAINED TO WORK IN SO THEY CAN STAY HERE AND NOT HAVE TO LEAVE THE CITY OR THE REGION TO GO FIND THESE JOBS. SO RIGHT HERE WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF WHAT THOSE CAN BE. SO FOOD AND WELLNESS KIND OF TIES INTO THE FACT THAT YOU DO HAVE THIS ECOSYSTEM OF FOOD MANUFACTURERS. RIGHT. YOU KNOW ARDEN'S GARDEN BEING HERE IS A IS A VERY BIG PLUS. YOU KNOW, IT SHOWCASES A LOT HEAVILY MARKETED, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR URBAN AGRICULTURE PLAN, RIGHT. AND THEN THINKING OF EVEN THOUGH THE ATLANTIC MEDICAL CENTER HAS LEFT, RIGHT, YOU STILL HAVE AN EXISTING FRAMEWORK OF HEALTH PROVIDERS, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO GO AWAY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY VOIDS THAT ARE THERE, THEY CAN STILL BE FILLED. SO IT'S COMBINING THINGS TOGETHER TO HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC VIEW OF HEALTH AND BEING ABLE TO KIND OF MATCH THOSE EXISTING EFFORTS THAT YOU HAVE IN OTHER IN YOUR OTHER PLANNING DOCUMENTS, YOUR TOURISM AND RECREATION IS SPEAKING TO.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT VISIT EASTPOINT HAS BEEN DOING. I KNOW THEY'VE ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT A YEAR OR SO, BUT THINKING OF THE DRAW THAT THE ATLANTA REGION HAS HAD, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING THE WORLD CUP SOON. THERE'S AND WE CONSTANTLY GETTING OTHER SPORTING EVENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE INTO THE FUTURE. BUT IN THAT REGARD, THAT IS WHERE EASTPOINT CAN REALLY LEVERAGE THE AIRPORT IN THAT NEW WAY. SOMEONE WHO IS VISITING HERE FOR THESE EVENTS, SOMEONE WHO'S EVEN JUST HERE, JUST FOR A LAYOVER FOR A DAY OR TWO, A COUPLE HOURS, WHY NOT COME TO EASTPOINT? YOU ALL HAVE TWO MARTA STATIONS, RIGHT? NOT EVERY COMMUNITY HAS THAT. SO NO ONE WOULD NEED A CAR TO COME VISIT THE COMMUNITY THEY COULD STOP IN. THE IDEA IS TO GET THEM TO COME, YOU KNOW, COME TO DOWNTOWN, COME TO YOUR HOTEL DISTRICT, GET THEM AROUND THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF HELP DRIVE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT WAY. AND OF COURSE, YOUR MULTIMEDIA PRODUCTION ENTERTAINMENT. RIGHT. THIS IS THINKING OF HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT EASTPOINT CAN KIND OF LEVERAGE ITS SPHERE INTO THE FILM. RIGHT. SO MOST PEOPLE HAVE VISITED EASTPOINT VIA A SCREEN, VIA A TV SHOW OR A FILM. THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE REALIZED IT YET.

AND THERE'S MORE TO THE FILM THAN JUST STUDIO SPACE. SO IT'S THINKING OF HOW CAN EASTPOINT BECOME HAVE THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM, WHETHER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE POST-PRODUCTION, THE SOUND RECORDING, HAVING THE MAKEUP ARTISTS, THE MARKETING ASPECT OF IT, THE SET DESIGN, THE PERFORMING ARTS, ALL OF THOSE PIECES, AND BUILDING THOSE OUT SO THAT IT CAN ALMOST BE A ONE STOP SHOP FOR FILM JUST RIGHT HERE IN THE DIGITAL DESIGN AND AUTOMATION AGAIN, IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A BIG ATTRACTION PIECE, WILL REQUIRE A LOT MORE EFFORTS TO KIND OF RECRUIT THEM HERE. BUT EASTPOINT, BEING SO CLOSE TO ATLANTA, IT HAS CLOSE TO ALL THOSE VARIOUS UNIVERSITY TECH TALENT, ALL OF THE TECHNICAL COLLEGES AND DIGITAL IS ON.

AUTOMATION ALSO ALIGNS WITH A LOT OF REGIONAL TARGET INDUSTRIES THAT YOUR PARTNERS HAVE. SO THIS COULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR WORKING TOGETHER, MAKING SURE THAT EASTPOINT STAYS TOP OF MIND WHEN YOUR PARTNERS ARE TRYING TO RECRUIT FOR THIS INDUSTRY. AND SO WITH THAT, I THINK I'M GOING TO PASS IT BACK TO JEFF TO TALK ABOUT THE GOALS. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, GABBY. AGAIN, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE MUCH DEEPER PLAN THAT YOU'LL SEE VERY SOON. BUT ULTIMATELY THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS NOT A PLAN THAT SITS ON A SHELF. RIGHT. YOU HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME. AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY, AGAIN, TO CONTINUE TO USE TRITE METAPHORS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, RIGHT? IS THESE GOALS LEAD TO STRATEGIES, LEAD TO TACTICS, LEAD TO GETTING THINGS DONE. AND SO AGAIN THESE GOALS ARE SPECIFIC TO THE STRATEGIES THAT THAT WE'LL SEE IN THE ACTION PLAN. BUT AGAIN THE IDEA IS REALLY TO AGAIN FOSTER THAT ROBUST BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT THAT THAT AND IN IN SUMMARY MEANS KEEP THE BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVE BUILD UPON WHAT YOU WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. THEY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO KEEP A BUSINESS AND GROW A BUSINESS THAN IT IS TO ATTRACT A BUSINESS AND THEREFORE NUMBER. THAT'S WHY THIS IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO REALLY KEEP KEEP THE GOOD BUSINESSES THAT ARE PROVIDING GOOD JOBS AND GOOD SALARIES IN EASTPOINT. AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS ATTRACT NEW ONES. AND AGAIN, AS GABBY WAS SAYING, THOSE TARGET INDUSTRIES REALLY WILL HELP GUIDE THE EFFORTS AS TO WHAT TYPES OF NEW BUSINESSES YOU CAN AND SHOULD BE SEEKING TO BRING TO EASTPOINT, AND PARTICULARLY IN THAT LAST TARGET INDUSTRY, AND THAT WE MENTIONED WITH THE DIGITAL DESIGN, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF A NEW COULD BECOME A NEW FRONTIER. AGAIN, THE DATA TELLS US THIS. THE STAKEHOLDERS TELL US THIS. AND THAT'S REALLY COULD BE THE KIND OF THE LINCHPIN OF FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IS ATTRACTING THOSE NEW INDUSTRIES INTO THE CITY. AGAIN. ALL NONE OF THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A STRONG WORKFORCE AND TALENT POOL. SO YOU'VE GOT TO YOU'VE

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GOT TO WORK WITH YOUR PARTNERS ON THE EDUCATION SIDE, OF WHICH YOU HAVE MANY, AS GABBY MENTIONED, AND REALLY FOCUS ON GROWING YOUR WORKFORCE THAT THAT LIVES HERE LOCALLY AND EXPANDING THE TYPES OF TALENTS THAT THE THAT YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE AND ATTRACTING NEW TALENT TO THE CITY. AND THAT'S REALLY, AGAIN, WHERE THAT HOUSING COMES INTO PLAY AGAIN. YOU'VE GOT AN ENTIRE HOUSING STUDY THAT WAS COMPLETED NOT THAT LONG AGO. SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO TRYING TO DO A HOUSING STUDY HERE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU EXPAND YOUR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY. AND IT'S NOT JUST MORE HOUSING, IT'S THE TYPE OF HOUSING. IT'S REALLY EXPANDING THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT IS OFFERED HERE SO THAT YOU CAN ATTRACT NEW, NEW TALENT TO REALLY KIND OF START TO LIFT SOME OF THOSE ECONOMIC MARKERS THAT GABBY WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO AGAIN, I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT ATTRACTING ADDITIONAL HOUSING OF ALL TYPES INTO THE CITY IS FOR YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO THE FUTURE. IT MAY BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD DO IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET NEW HOUSING, NEW AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS INTO THE CITY TO GROW YOUR TALENT POOL, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME THAT GOES ALONG WITH QUALITY OF LIFE AGAIN, BY, BY BY CONTINUING A GROWTH PATTERN OF YOUR OF YOUR CITIZENS AND OF YOUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, YOU'RE ABLE TO REALLY KIND OF PROVIDE NEW AMENITIES. AND SO, AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT AMENITIES. YOU'VE GOT A GREAT WATER SYSTEM. I MEAN, ALL THOSE ALL OF THOSE THINGS MATTER IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? THAT WATER AWARD IS SOMETHING THAT THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BRAG ABOUT TO NEW, NEW, NEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOOKING TO LOCATE SOMEWHERE. AND THEY WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, DO I HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO RUN MY BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDABLE AND SAFE AND CLEAN WATER IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST OF THAT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH BROADBAND INTERNET, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. SO ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT LOCKED DOWN. AND THEN NUMBER FIVE, YOU'LL SEE IN THE PLAN, IS REALLY ALL ABOUT LEANING INTO THE PLANS THAT YOU DO HAVE, THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT PLANNING, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF REALLY GREAT MOMENTUM IN A LOT OF WAYS. AND SO WHAT THIS PLAN IS, IS INTENDED TO DO IS TO LINK UP THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS WITH ALL THE OTHER INITIATIVES HAPPENING IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S A, AGAIN, REALLY A HIGH LEVEL THUMBNAIL SKETCH OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO AND WHERE THIS PLAN IS GOING. AGAIN, YOU THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THAT THAT WILL BE ANSWERED ONCE YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE PLAN IN YOUR HANDS. AND THAT IS COMING SOON. BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT THAT YOU MAY HAVE. JUST AS WE START TO AGAIN PUT THOSE LANDING WHEELS DOWN ON ON THIS REPORT. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. MY QUESTION IS THIS. AND MISTER ROGERS, YOU PROBABLY CAN'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION. AND YOU ALL MET WITH THE STAKEHOLDER WITH THE BUSINESSES. HOW WAS ALL OF THE BUSINESSES NOTIFIED ABOUT THE MEETING AND WHERE WERE THE MEETING HELD FOR THE BUSINESSES? SO THE OUTREACH THAT WE HAD WAS HERE AT CITY HALL, AND WE WENT THROUGH OUR COMPLETE RESOURCE EFFORTS WITH RESPECT TO EMAILING THE BUSINESSES. WE POSTED INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE, WE PUT INFORMATION INTO OUR NEWSLETTER AND SENT THAT OUT.

AND I BELIEVE WE DISTRIBUTED SOME INFORMATION TO VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO CONNECT WITH THEM AS WELL. OKAY, BECAUSE I KNOW I ATTEND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND I DON'T RECALL ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEETINGS. AND I KNOW WE JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST WEEK ABOUT THE FACADE GRANT AND NOTIFYING ALL OF THE BUSINESSES IN EAST POINT. SO I'M WONDERING IF ALL OF THE BUSINESSES IN EAST POINT KNEW ABOUT THESE MEETINGS TO GIVE INPUT ABOUT WHAT THEY WHAT THEY THEY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS IN THIS VISION FOR THE STRATEGIC PROCESS. MY NEXT QUESTION IS, AND I NOTICED THAT THEY SAID THAT THEY MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WASN'T A PART OF THAT MEETING, SO I DIDN'T GIVE ANY INPUT ON WHAT MY VISIONS AND WHAT I THOUGHT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS WILL THERE BE ANOTHER MEETING FOR THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE RECEIVED AN INVITE OR WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS? WELL, I DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS THERE WAS OR THERE WERE EMAILS SENT TO THE VARIOUS

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COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO THE CONSULTANT. THERE WERE PHONE CALLS. OH, SO IT WAS SENT TO DIRECTLY TO CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ALL. THERE WAS AN OUTREACH BY THE CONSULTANT TO REACH ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR, TO GET YOUR YOUR INPUT. AND WE ALSO DID, I THINK, A SURVEY WITH RESPECT TO I THINK, THE BUSINESS. THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION. WHERE WERE THE SURVEY POSTED? SO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, COUNCILWOMAN, WOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. SO WAS IT ANY DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS WHAT THE SURVEY WAS ABOUT, OR HOW WERE PEOPLE ABLE TO TAKE THE SURVEY? DID THEY KNOW? SEE, SEE HERE'S MY HERE'S HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING. HOW DO WE GET INFORMATION OUT FOR EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE? EVERYBODY IS NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. EVERYBODY DOES NOT GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE. YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE DON'T GET ON COMPUTERS. SO HOW DO YOU GET THE INFORMATION OUT? I'M SURE THE BUSINESSES WHERE I LIVE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS. I'M SURE THE BUSINESSES ON WASHINGTON ROAD NEAR SALMON CHEESECAKE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO KNOWN ABOUT THIS, OR ANY OF THEM WHERE ANY OF THEM IN PARTICIPATION TO THE MEETINGS WERE THE CHEVRON ON THE LOWER HEADLAND AND PARTICIPATION OF THE MEETING WERE THE RETAIL BUSINESS IN WAKEFIELD PLAZA, AND PARTICIPATE IN PARTICIPATION OF THE MEETING. SO THERE IS THERE THERE HAS TO BE A WIDER STRETCH THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE. WAS ANY OF THE BUSINESSES ON BAYARD STREET IN PARTICIPATION OF THE MEETING? SO. YES, MA'AM. I MEAN, I, I CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR 100% OF THE BUSINESSES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN. HOWEVER, WE MADE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO GET THE WORD OUT AS BEST THAT WE COULD. AND OF COURSE, WE HAD SOME BUSINESSES THAT ACTUALLY TOLD ME THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT. BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING IN TERMS OF UPDATING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PLAN, BECAUSE SINCE COVID, THINGS HAVE SIMPLY CHANGED AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN DO TO GET OUR PLAN UP TO A POINT TO WHERE WE CAN NOW CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY MARKET THIS CITY, TO BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO COME HERE, THAT WANT TO STAY HERE AND THAT WANT TO GROW HERE. SO WE HAVE WE ARE TRULY COUNCILWOMAN, EXERCISING OUR MEANS TO GET THE WORD OUT AS BEST THAT WE CAN WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO MY QUESTION IS, FOR THOSE LIKE ME, WILL THERE BE A TIME FRAME WHERE I CAN GO IN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION? YOU MEAN WITH THE CONSULTANT OR. EXACTLY. YES, MA'AM. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN WE CAN SET THAT UP RIGHT HERE. IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE TOMORROW. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOMMODATE YOU IN THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN BUTLER. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE SLIDE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT ALMOST 2 IN 5 RESIDENTS, 25 OR PLUS, HAVE AT LEAST A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. YES. SO I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE DATA. SO AT ONE POINT YOU SAID ONE THIRD OF THE. COULD YOU CLARIFY THE ONE THIRD ONLY HAVE HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE 40% THAT HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. SO THE.

THIRD ONE SO THE BULLET POINT ON THE LEFT, ALMOST A THIRD OF RESIDENTS 25 YEARS AND OLDER HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA RIGHT OVER ON THE RIGHT. THIS IS THIS IS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. SO THE DATA WILL THE DATA WILL TELL US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF WHERE YOUR TERMINAL LEVEL OF EDUCATION IS. RIGHT. SO YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 30% WHO'S TERMINAL DEGREE IF YOU WILL, WAS HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEN YOU HAVE ABOUT 40%. AND AGAIN AND RESIDENTS 25 AND PLUS. SO WE'RE NOT COUNTING FOLKS THAT WOULDN'T HAVE GRADUATED ALSO HAVE BACHELOR'S DEGREES OKAY. SO I'M I'M TRYING TO GET TO YOUR CONCLUSION AND TRYING TO COME TO A CONCLUSION ABOUT THAT. SO WHAT DO YOU COMPARE THIS METRIC TO?

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WHAT IF WE LOOKED AT YOU HAVE THE CITY OF ATLANTA HERE? YEAH. I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT TRYING TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE TYPE OF DATA WE HAVE. THE, THE PLAN ITSELF COMPARES AGAIN, IT COMPARES CITY OF EAST POINT TO SOUTHERN FULTON COUNTY, TO FULTON COUNTY TO, TO THE OVERALL METRO REGION. SO IT'S 33%. ARE YOU SAYING THEY HAVE A AT LEAST A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, OR ARE YOU SAYING THEY HAVE MORE THAN A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA? THEY ONLY HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. THAT'S THEIR THAT'S THEIR TERMINAL EDUCATION. SO WHEN YOU SAY ONE THIRD ONLY HAS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, THEN YOU SAY 40% HAS A COLLEGE DEGREE. SO THAT'S HOW YOU GET YOU'RE GETTING 70% OF THE POPULATION. YES. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WITH ONE THIRD OF THE RESIDENTS ONLY HAVING A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES? HOW DOES WHAT HOW DOES IT COMPARE. GIVE ME A AN EXAMPLE OF THE METRIC. SO HOW SHOULD I INTERPRET THIS. IS IT ON PAR OR IS IT BELOW PAR. IS IT ABOVE PAR. DO YOU KNOW HOW PAIN I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS WITH YOU. I MEAN WITH US TO COMPARE TO THE OTHER ONES.

BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S SLIGHTLY BELOW THE KIND OF REGIONAL AVERAGE, IF YOU WILL, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, TO, TO GET TO THAT BACHELOR DEGREE. SO THAT, SO, SO IN TERMS OF THOSE THAT HAVE A COLLEGE EDUCATION IN EAST POINT ARE WOULD BE SLIGHTLY BELOW THE OVERALL METROPOLITAN AVERAGE, IF YOU WILL. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT AVERAGE IS AND WE DO. I JUST DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. TO ME. YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT THOUGH, IS AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS FALLS TO, SO I'LL ADDRESS THE ENTIRE GROUP WHEN WE HAVE 64 PEOPLE THAT WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO IN THE PLAN THAT LAST TEN YEARS, OUT OF 38,000 PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD MATCH. WELL, I WOULD SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST THINK ABOUT THIS RIGHT. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SEE NATIONAL SURVEYS, IF THEY, IF THEY IF THEY DO IT RIGHT, THEY CAN HAVE A THOUSAND RESPONSES TO REPRESENT THE ENTIRE NATION. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF, OF NUMBERS. RIGHT? IF YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, IF YOU'RE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SURVEY EVEN, EVEN CLOSE TO A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE. RIGHT? SO AGAIN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TOO, THAT THIS, THIS, THIS ROOM WAS FULL TWICE, RIGHT? THIS ROOM, THIS ROOM WAS FULL OF BUSINESS OWNERS FOR TWO DAYS.

THEY THEY SAT IN HERE AND GAVE US THEIR INPUT. SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE INPUT WE GOT FROM THE, FROM THE SURVEY WAS VERY ROBUST AND VERY HELPFUL AS WELL. SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE MATTERS OF INPUT INTO THE, INTO THE PLAN. AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT REALLY GOOD INPUT FROM A WIDE VARIETY OF BUSINESS OWNERS INTO THIS PLAN. SO I WILL DEFEND THE INPUT THAT WE GOT FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THIS PLAN. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE ERROR IS. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DEFEND ANYTHING. WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M QUESTIONING THE DATA SET. AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS, IS NOT IT'S CONSTRUCTIVE. IT'S NOT I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE DEFENSE. I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AS MY COLLEAGUE. WHEN YOU TELL ME WE HAVE 14,000 BUSINESSES AND WE TALK TO 28,000, WE TALKED TO 28 AND WE HAVE 38,000 PEOPLE. I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. I WASN'T SPOKEN TO. NO ONE SPOKE TO ME. AND ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT YOU SPOKE TO PEOPLE ON COUNCIL. WE DID. I SURVEYED THREE OF MY CONSTITUENTS HERE, SURVEY COUNCILS FROM SHROPSHIRE. WE DIDN'T KNOW. NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S YOUR FAULT, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO BE ON DEFENSE. WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS I WASN'T NOTIFIED. I'M A. YOU GOT AN EMAIL? OKAY? I'M TRYING TO BE POLITE. I AM TOO. NO YOU'RE NOT.

HEY. SO. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT TONIGHT. WE'RE JUST NOT. SO COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER FINISHED ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THEN YOU CAN RESPOND. AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. RIGHT. EXACTLY. SO THERE IS A DEGREE OF DECORUM HERE. AND YOU SHOULDN'T INTERRUPT THE COUNCIL PERSON WHEN THEY'RE SPEAKING. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER I JUST ASKED YOU TO FINISH ASKING YOU A QUESTION SO THAT HE CAN RESPOND AND WE CAN MOVE ON. MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS A WORK SESSION. I WILL USE MY TIME TO ADDRESS THE PERSON ABOUT HIS PRESENTATION, AS I SEE FEELS BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF EAST POINT. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS 64 PEOPLE OUT OF 38,000 PEOPLE DOESN'T EVEN MEET THE STANDARD DEVIATION FOR ANYTHING. AND WHEN THEY DO POLLS POLITICALLY, THERE IS A STANDARD DEVIATION THAT'S MET. SO I'M NOT QUESTIONING I'M QUESTIONING YOUR METRICS. AND

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I'M NOT ASKING YOU FOR A DEFENSE. WE ARE PAYING YOU. WE ARE PAYING YOU TO DELIVER THIS.

BECAUSE IF I REALLY WANT TO BE CRITICAL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING INVESTING IN THE MOVIE INDUSTRY. WHEN AFTER THE STRIKE, ALL MOVIES ARE MADE OVERSEAS. BUT THIS IS WHAT YOUR DATA HAS BEEN SAYING. AND HOW DO I KNOW THAT I HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT ATTORNEY IN THE BACK? I HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY. I KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT. I KNOW WHAT EDITING IS. I KNOW HOW TO MAKE FILMS. I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE, SO I KNOW THE INDUSTRY. BUT HAD YOU SPOKEN TO ME, WE COULD HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION. IN ADDITION TO WHEN YOU CAME HERE THE FIRST TIME, MY CONCERN WAS, HOW DO WE DIVERSIFY OUR EMPLOYMENT STREAM IN ORDER THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST ECONOMY IN CASE WE GO INTO A RECESSION AND THE FOOD SERVICE BUSINESSES FAIL? THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. AND MAYBE YOU DON'T GET THAT OUT OF 64 PEOPLE. OR IF YOU SENT ONE EMAIL AND HALF OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS DIOCESE DIDN'T RESPOND, HAVE MERCY OR MAKE A PHONE CALL. SOME OF US COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH PHONE CALLS. THIS IS PART TIME FOR US, BUT IT'S A FULL TIME JOB PROTECTING THE PEOPLE OF EAST POINT. IN PARTICULAR WHEN WE TRY TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE TEN YEARS OUT. SO DON'T EVER OVERTALK SOMEONE. WHEN I COME HERE AND I LOOK OUT FOR THE PEOPLE OF EAST POINT EVERY DAY, AND YOU DO IT FOR A FEW MONTHS.

COUNCIL MEMBER FRALEY. THANKS. THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WILL NOTE THAT THERE WAS AN EMAIL FROM THE CITY CLERK TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 13TH ASKING FOR THE INTERVIEWS.

THERE WAS A FOLLOW UP ON THE 19TH, AND I DID MY INTERVIEW IN SEPTEMBER. SO I JUST MAKE THAT CLEAR. SO CAN YOU GO TO YOUR LAST SLIDE? SO WHEN THE FINAL REPORT IS DONE, SORT OF FROM THIS KIND OF HOW DETAILED OR HOW PRESCRIPTIVE OR SO ON IS THE FINAL REPORT VIS A VIS SORT OF THESE BROAD GOALS? IT'S MUCH MORE DESCRIPTIVE THAN THIS. UNDER EACH GOAL, THERE WILL BE, WHAT, AT LEAST FIVE STRATEGIES WITH DIFFERENT TACTICS ATTACHED TO THEM. SO IT'S INTENDED TO BE USED AS SORT OF A ROADMAP AND THAT IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THE GOALS WILL BE LAID OUT, THE STRATEGIES WILL BE LAID OUT. WE WILL IDENTIFY THE TIME SENSITIVITY AROUND THEM WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, A MEASURABLE GOAL. SO THEY'RE MEASURABLE. THEY'RE TIME SENSITIVE. AND THERE'S SOMEONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, STANDARD PRACTICE FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WAS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION YOU ANSWERED. I THINK A PART OF IT IN TERMS OF LIFTING THE ECONOMIC MARKERS, LIKE WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON OR DO FIRST, SORT OF. AND YOU SAID HOUSING WAS A BIG ONE. VARIOUS TYPES, VARIOUS PRICE POINTS, I GUESS, FROM AFFORDABLE AND ATTAINABLE ALL THE WAY TO MARKET. AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WOULD BE THE SECOND THING? BECAUSE GIVEN THE RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF THE FOUR AREAS TO FOCUS ON THE FOOD AND WELLNESS AND TOURISM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IF WE ARE REALLY WANTING TO DRIVE TO ATTRACT THOSE INDUSTRIES HERE, THEN WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PUSH AND WHAT TO EMPHASIZE FIRST. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT HOUSING. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WOULD BE THE SECOND ONE? I THINK THE SECOND ONE, I THINK THERE'S I'LL TALK ABOUT THE SECOND AND THE THIRD, AND YOU CAN RANK THEM HOWEVER YOU WANT. BUT ONE I WOULD SAY IS THE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLBOX, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT TOOLS IN PLACE. I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A GREAT SUCCESS THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES. IS THE IS THE IS THE TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT FOR THE CAMP CREEK COMMONS? I MEAN, THAT IS SEEN AROUND THE STATE AS REALLY PROBABLY THE MOST ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL. TAD'S CERTAINLY THE MOST ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL TAD'S OUTSIDE THE CITY OF ATLANTA. AND IT IS A LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE. YOU ATTRACTED HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT. AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT YOU NEED MORE TAD'S. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING ON LOOKING AT. BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT THAT IS A TOOL THAT LEADS THAT YOU CAN THAT WAS INSTITUTED LOCALLY, THAT LEADS, THAT LEADS TO HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND

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DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE SHAPE OF THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A TOOL IN YOUR TOOLBOX THAT YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IN PLACE AS YOU GO OUT TO START TO ATTRACT COMPANIES. AND RELATEDLY, THE NEXT PIECE OF IT IS REALLY YOUR PARTNERSHIPS, YOUR ESTABLISHING AND SOLIDIFYING YOUR PARTNERSHIPS, PARTICULARLY AT THE STATE LEVEL WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, AS WE SPOKE TO LOTS OF FOLKS AT THE STATE LEVEL, THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECTS OF EASTPOINT. I MEAN, YOU'VE WORKED WITH THEM SUCCESSFULLY THROUGH THE YEARS ALREADY, BUT THEY REALLY APPRECIATE JUST THIS, THIS PLAN COMING TO FRUITION BECAUSE THEY BY HAVING A PLAN LIKE THIS, THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. THEY KNOW THAT YOU CARE. THEY KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO GROW YOUR ECONOMY. AND YOU'RE SENDING THE SIGNAL TO YOUR PARTNERS AT THE STATE LEVEL, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHERE THE BIG PROSPECTS AND THE SMALL PROSPECTS, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE PROSPECTS OFTEN COME IS, IS THROUGH THE STATE. AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE ON, AS GABBY SAID, ON THEIR RADAR SCREEN. AND SO THOSE HAVING A LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLBOX AND HAVING YOUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS IS, IS REALLY AGAIN, SORT OF TH, THE, THE BLOCKING AND TACKLING OF GETTING THESE THINGS DONE. OKAY. MY NEXT QUESTION IS, I THINK GABBY AND I'M CALLING YOU BY FIRST NAME BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR LAST NAME. THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU MENTIONED IN TERMS OF THE RATE OF GROWTH, 5% HOUSING GROWTH VERSUS 20 TO 30% IN SOUTHERN PART OF FULTON COUNTY. AND GABBY, YOU DID MENTION IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THAT'S THAT SLOW GROWTH COULD BE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT YOU DIDN'T GO INTO THOSE. SO CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT YOU FEEL WOULD BE SOME CONTRIBUTORS TO THAT LEVEL OF SLOW GROWTH? I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S EVEN SOME OF IT IS MARKET DRIVEN, RIGHT? IN THAT SOMETIMES THE STARS HAVE TO ALIGN TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, SUCH THINGS LIKE MARKET RATE, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, WHICH GETS YOU A BIG POP, YOU KNOW, YOU GET 200 UNITS AT A TIME. UP UNTIL SOMEWHAT RECENTLY. YOU KNOW, THE MARKET REALLY WASN'T HERE FOR MARKET RATE DEVELOPERS TO SHOW UP. I THINK YOU'RE AT A POINT WHERE YOU CAN START TO ATTRACT MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS. BUT BUT PART OF IT IS, IS JUST THAT, THAT, THAT THE THAT THE, THE OVERALL REGIONAL APARTMENT MARKET WAS LOOKING ELSEWHERE. AND, YOU KNOW, NOW I THINK NOW IS THE TIME YOU'RE FINDING MANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE ABLE TO ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE FOLKS ARE LOOKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO REALLY GROW THE, THE REGIONAL POPULATION. SO AGAIN, I WOULD SAY FOR, YOU KNOW, HALF OF HALF OF THAT TIME FRAME THERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MARKET DRIVEN, THE SOUTH SIDE WAS, WAS NOT AS, AS, AS LOOKED UPON BY THE, BY THE MARKET. BUT THAT HAS CHANGED.

THAT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. I MEAN, I THINK THE OTHER THING IS AND ONE THING, AGAIN, WITHOUT GETTING TOO DEEP INTO IT, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD THERE ARE DIFFICULTIES IN THE IN THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS FOR DEVELOPERS. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S HARDER TO PULL IN THEIR, THEIR AT LEAST THEIR PERCEPTION IS IT'S HARDER TO PULL A PERMIT. IT TAKES LONGER TO GET THINGS DONE TO BUILD THINGS IN EAST POINT. WE HEARD THAT. AND I WOULD SAY THAT IS THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE BUILDING HOUSING, WHETHER IT BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MARKET RATE HOUSING, WHAT HAVE YOU, SENIOR HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY OFTEN WILL FOLLOW THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. RIGHT. AND IF THEY IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOU VERSUS ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY AND THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S RESISTANCE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FRICTION HERE VERSUS THEY CAN GO DOWN THE STREET AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THERE'S LESS FRICTION. THEY'RE GOING TO GO BUILD OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THAT. AGAIN, THERE'S NOT ONE SINGLE THING. IT'S CERTAINLY MULTI-CAUSAL, AS WE LIKE TO SAY.

BUT I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THAT HAVE LED TO THIS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG ON THE HOUSING PRODUCTION IN THE CITY. WELL, HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ENTITLEMENTS, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. NUMBER TEN, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS IS LOOKING FOR AN UPDATE ON THE ZONING REWRITE. SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE ADDRESSED. ABSOLUTELY. THE ZONING REWRITE. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS IT RELATES TO ENTITLEMENTS AND BEING ABLE TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT COMING.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING AS WELL. AND CITIES AROUND THE REGION ARE LOOKING AT HOW TO TIGHTEN UP THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE IN THE IN THE ATLANTA REGION. AND, AND LOTS OF CITIES ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCREASE HOW HOW THEY CAN BE THE RECEIVER OF MORE HOUSING IN THEIR CITIES AND LOOKING AT THEIR ZONING POLICIES IS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE KEY PIECES

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OF ALL OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER AND I WILL GET A MEETING SCHEDULED SO THAT I'LL SIT FOR THE INTERVIEW AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. WE'D LOVE TO TALK WITH EACH OF YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T, IF WE HAVEN'T TALKED WITH YOU YET. AND AGAIN, THOSE CONVERSATIONS CAN BE VERY FRUITFUL. ONCE ONCE YOU'VE GOT KIND OF THE DRAFT PLAN IN YOUR HANDS, THEN WE CAN GO DETAIL BY DETAIL. YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE PLAN, THIS THIS TONIGHT WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. SURE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. MY COLLEAGUE ASKED A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS TO THE PLAN. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW PART OF. A LOT OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I KNOW A LOT OF THAT IS BASED OFF OF OUR MEDIUM INCOME. AND HOUSING WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY TALKING POINTS. I KNOW IT WAS GROWING 5% SINCE 2010. WITH THIS STUDY, KIND OF ANALYZED WHAT TYPE OF PRICE POINTS OR HOUSING OR OR I KNOW YOU WANT TO ATTRACT, YOU WANT TO ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, WORKING PROFESSIONALS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN HELP US WITH OUR MEDIAN INCOME. IS THERE LIKE A STUDY AROUND WHAT TYPE OF HOUSING THAT HOUSES THEY PREFER OR WHAT TYPE OF WE WON'T REALLY, IN THIS STUDY, GET DEEP INTO THAT. THERE WAS A HOUSING STUDY CONDUCTED FOR YOU ALL A YEAR OR TWO AGO. I BELIEVE THAT DOES GET MORE INTO THAT. SO AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE WILL, ESPECIALLY IN THE ACTION PLAN AT THE END, TRY TO LINK UP OTHER PREVIOUS PLANS AND OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT LINK UP WITH THIS. SO CERTAINLY WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL AND WOULD KIND OF REFER YOU THAT WAY TO, TO THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE ALLUSIONS TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S JUST THAT, THAT TO GET THAT DEEP INTO THAT KIND OF DEMAND STUDY, THAT'S REALLY WHERE YOUR HOUSING STUDY COMES IN. THANK YOU. SO AND SECONDLY, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED MARTIN. I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENT ENTITY THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK WITH. BUT IS THAT INCLUDE A PLAN? I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE EAST POINT MARTA STATION RECENTLY.

YES. YEAH. WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE TAKEN THE TRAIN DOWN HERE FOR MANY MEETINGS. SO I THINK IT COULD USE SOME HELP, ESPECIALLY IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAIN. VEHICLES. YOU SAY IT STOPS US OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DOWNTOWN. YOU MIGHT BE DISCOURAGED WHEN YOU SEE GUN HOLES, YOU KNOW, BULLET HOLES AND, YOU KNOW, SCREENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OR IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE NOT AS CLEAN AS OTHER MARTA STATIONS AROUND. YEAH, I WOULD SAY YOU'RE RIGHT 100% RIGHT. WE WILL. YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE NO NOTATIONS OF THAT. BUT AS GABBY SAID, HAVING THAT MARTIN STATION IS SUPER IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS IDEA OF TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT IS VERY KIND OF GERMANE TO GROWING THE IN, IN TOWN HOUSING, IF YOU WILL, AND IN TOWN ECONOMY. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW BUSINESSES. WE KNOW BUSINESSES LIKE TO BE NEAR NEAR TRANSIT STOPS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THAT THAT THAT ASSURANCE OF GETTING THEIR WORKFORCE IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS AND FOLKS LIKE TO LIVE THERE. SO I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT YOUR MARTA STATIONS, NOT JUST THE EAST POINT BUT ALSO LAKEWOOD STATION OF WHICH YOUR YOUR BORDERS GO RIGHT UP TO THE STATION THERE.

THOSE ARE HUGE OPPORTUNITIES TO AGAIN GROW YOUR HOUSING BASE, GROW YOUR ECONOMY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT, COUNCILWOMAN VEGA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

AND I APPRECIATE THE MEETING THAT WE HAD EARLIER. I RECEIVED THE EMAIL AS WELL. SO KNOWING THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILPERSON ADKINS KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT KNOWING THAT OUR ZONING LAWS ARE REALLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ALLOWED CERTAIN INDUSTRIES TO COME INTO OUR CITY. WOULD IT BE A PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO TRY AND CHANGE SOME OF OUR ZONING LAWS TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, MORE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ZONING LAWS. THIS IS NOT REALLY AN AUDIT OF THE ZONING LAWS, AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CHANGE ANYTHING. BUT CERTAINLY WE WILL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AGAIN ONCE YOU SEE IT. IN TERMS OF AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT WORD FRICTION BEFORE, RIGHT? LIKE IF THERE'S SOME FRICTION AROUND SOME OF THAT ZONING THAT COULD PROHIBIT GET IN THE WAY OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WE THINK YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THIS PATH. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT RULES THAT ARE THAT ARE KIND OF HOLDING YOU UP, HURDLES THAT ARE TRYING TO KEEP YOU FROM GETTING THERE, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO POINT THOSE OUT. THANK YOU. AND I THINK I WAS TRYING TO TOUCH ON THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LARGE SWATH OF OUR LAND IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. AND SO, YOU KNOW,

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WOULD IT BE LIKE A PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO TRY AND MAYBE CHANGE THOSE? YEAH. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF ATLANTA NOW HAS A ZONING DESIGNATION CALLED IMIX.

AND SO IT'S REALLY INTENDED FOR A LOT OF THE TYPES OF PLACES THAT YOU ALL HAVE HERE, OLDER INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT IN THAT CASE, AGAIN, NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD TRY TO COPY THAT, BUT IT IS IT IS A WAY IN WHICH THEY'RE YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AT A PIECE OF OLDER INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S WORTH SAVING HERE? BECAUSE A LOT OF THE OLD BRICK BUILDINGS ON INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES ARE WORTH SAVING BECAUSE THEY CAN REALLY BE ATTRACTIVE AND REALLY KIND OF BE THE CORNERSTONE OF, OF A REDEVELOPMENT. SO HOW DO YOU SAVE WHAT'S GOOD? HOW DO YOU KEEP SOME JOBS ON SITE? RIGHT. IF THERE'S AN ACTIVE PLACE THAT HAS 100 EMPLOYEES LIKE THAT, THAT'S POTENTIALLY WORTH SAVING, HOW CAN YOU SAVE THAT? BUT THEN ADD ON TO IT AND IT ALLOWS. AND AGAIN, ONE OF IT IS IT'S DENSITY. RIGHT. AND IN ORDER TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO CONSIDER GOING MORE DENSE. RIGHT. AND ESPECIALLY ON THESE OLD INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES THAT I WOULD SAY ARE VASTLY UNDERUSED, UNDERUTILIZED IN SOME CASES AND ARE ECONOMICALLY INEFFICIENT. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE THEY'RE IN PERFECT SPOTS TO DO MORE WITH. AND AGAIN, YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT THE ZONING CAN ADDRESS THAT. I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE AN IMAX TYPE OF SITUATION, BUT IT'S THAT KIND OF THING IS HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU TAKE WHAT'S THERE NOW AND KEEP WHAT'S GOOD AND ADD MORE TO IT SO IT BECOMES MORE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AS A, AS A LOCATION IN THE CITY? GOTCHA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ACTUALLY DID INCORPORATE THE MSCI OR WHAT HAVE YOU BACK IN LIKE 2020 2020 OKAY. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOT INCLUDING WAREHOUSE LOGISTICS AND INDUSTRIAL AS A TARGET INDUSTRY. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT IN 2020, WE DID PUT AN INDUSTRIAL MORATORIUM IN PLACE FOR ALMOST A YEAR. AND OUT OF THAT AMENDED OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO TAKE OUT SOME USES THAT WERE PERMITTED, AS WELL AS REQUIRE FURTHER DISTANCE FROM NEW INDUSTRIAL IN THE CITY, AND CREATED TWO ZONING DISTRICTS W H I WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND ALSO THE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT RIGHT TO AND PUT THOSE ZONINGS AS A PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WE'RE REQUIRED TO UPDATE EVERY FIVE YEARS ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND PARCELS FOR OUR FUTURE LAND USE FOR JUST THIS REASON. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR NOT FOCUSING ON THAT AND REALLY LOOKING AT WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TOWARDS AND REALLY ATTRACT. WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT COMING ON SYLVAN ROAD AT A FORMER INDUSTRIAL SITE THAT IS REALLY AROUND THIS MULTIMEDIA ENTERTAINMENT, DIGITAL DESIGN, AUTOMATION, MIXED USE LIKE REALLY, OR ADAPTIVE REUSE OF A SIZABLE INDUSTRIAL SPACE WITHIN OUR CITY. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE OF THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU SAID WE SHOULD LEAD WITH HOUSING TYPES AND YOUR EMPHASIS ON DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES. I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, PEOPLE START FEELING LIKE, OH, WELL, WE DON'T NEED ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING. WE ONLY NEED ONE TYPE, RIGHT. AND I THINK WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT EAST POINT IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HOUSING THAT ANYONE CAN AFFORD, REGARDLESS OF INCOME LEVEL, AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS AND THE EAST POINT HOUSING AUTHORITY TO HELP US WITH AFFORDABILITY. AND REALLY LOOKING AT IT FROM A FULL PERSPECTIVE, CITY WIDE PERSPECTIVE, AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE HAVING DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES, TYPES OF HOUSING, INCOME LEVELS AND ALL THAT. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THE NEED AND FOR US TO COMMIT TO MAINTAINING DIVERSITY AND NOT JUST TRYING TO ATTRACT ALL OF ANYTHING, BUT ENSURING THAT WE HAVE HOUSING THAT WILL SET US APART. AND REALLY, I THINK A REAL OPPORTUNITY IS THE MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING CRISIS, RIGHT? WE HAVE REALLY DEMONIZED AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WE'VE CREATED A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN MIDDLE INCOME, COLLEGE EDUCATED PEOPLE, FAMILIES WITH DEGREES OR JUST PROFESSIONS AND CAREERS CAN'T AFFORD NEW HOUSING BECAUSE THE PRICE IS WAY TOO HIGH, AND THEN THEY MAKE TOO MUCH FOR THE LITTLE 10% THAT PEOPLE SQUEEZE OUT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE YOU MENTIONED POPULATION AND SOME DEMOGRAPHICS EARLIER. WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE OR SOURCES OF INFORMATION FOR OUR

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POPULATION DATA? IS IT THE CENSUS HEAVILY OR LIKE WHERE ARE YOU REALLY LOOKING. WELL, THIS PARTICULAR DATA ON THIS SLIDE TECHNICALLY COMES FROM THE DATA PROVIDER ESRI, WHO IS PRETTY WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF THE WAY THEY PROVIDE DATA. ULTIMATELY, ALL OF THIS POPULATION DATA IS BASED ON CENSUS DATA. WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. THERE IS YOU KNOW, THE CENSUS IS CERTAINLY NOT PERFECT. 2020 WAS A TOUGH YEAR FOR THEM, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THEY DO PROVIDE THE BASELINE FOR THIS TYPE OF DATA. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING SAID, WE RELY I THINK IF YOU ADDED UP ALL THE DATA SOURCES IN THIS REPORT, YOU'D PROBABLY GET TO DOUBLE FIGURES.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT DATA FROM AS MANY PLACES AS WE CAN, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T LOOK AT ANY ONE PARTICULAR PIECE OF DATA AND MAKE ANY CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THAT, WHETHER THE DATA IS GOOD OR NOT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO SORT OF TRUST BUT VERIFY ANY, ANY DATA. AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO. SO AND AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT SOURCES OF DATA, WE TRY TO DETERMINE WHICH ONE SORT OF MAKES THE MOST SENSE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS OUTLIERS WHEN YOU LOOK AT LOOK AT DATA.

AND WE TRY TO AVOID THE OUTLIERS WHEN WE CAN. SO YEAH. YEAH. AND IF I CAN ADD ONE THING, ANOTHER BIG REASON WE STUCK WITH ESRI FOR A LOT OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC STUFF IS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IG USES FOR A LOT OF THEIR METRICS. SO IT WOULD BE PRETTY SIMILAR TO NUMBERS THAT MAY. SO IT'S PROBABLY SHARED WITH YOU ALL IN THE PAST TO TRY TO KEEP THEM ALIGNED AND USING VERY SIMILAR SOURCES. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DIVERSITY IN DATA SOURCES AS WELL. WHILE WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR CENSUS POPULATION BY 13% AND NOT GO DOWN IN 2020, YOU KNOW THAT IS A LOT. THE ACCURACY OF THAT IS BASED ON SELF-REPORTING. AND OUR SELF-REPORTING NUMBERS WERE JUST ABOUT THE SAME AS TEN YEARS AGO, RIGHT? SO OF COURSE, I THINK IT WAS 50 SOMETHING LIKE 53, 55 OR SOMETHING PERCENT. BUT THEN THAT MEANS THEY'RE GUESSING FOR THE OTHER 45. AND I THINK, WHAT IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES IN IN SOUTH FULTON AND NORTH FULTON, THEY'RE RESPONSE RATES ARE HIGHER. SO THEIR DATA IS MORE ACCURATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CENSUS. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT OTHER DATA SOURCES THAT MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, LIKE MORE A MORE REAL PICTURE OF WHAT IS HERE. THE OTHER THING IS YOU MENTIONED WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE PROVIDED INFORMATION AROUND THE FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY PARTNERS WITH TO OFFER. SO WE CONSTRUCTION READY STRIVE ATL THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH AEROTROPOLIS ATLANTA ALLIANCE AND THEN AMAZING STORIES FOUNDATION HAS BEEN OUR PARTNER. I THINK WE'RE IN OUR SIXTH, SIXTH SEASON. THEY CALL IT FOR A TV AND FILM PRODUCTION ASSISTANCE, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE WERE THE ONLY CITY IN THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF THE COUNTRY TO RECEIVE A BROWNFIELD WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT GRANT TO ACTUALLY TRAIN PEOPLE, PROVIDE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. AND I SAY PANDEMIC PROOF JOBS. WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO NEED SOME ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALISTS. AND THE WATER RESOURCES DEPARTMENT STAFF WHO WAS HERE EARLIER WERE LIKE VERY THEY TOOK THAT AND RAN WITH IT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO TRAIN PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYED WITH OUR CITY OR OTHER PLACES AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THERE AREN'T OPPORTUNITIES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THIS REPORT IS WRITTEN, IT CAPTURES THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY IS OFFERING AND HAS BEEN OFFERING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I THINK THAT WAS WHEN YOU SAID THAT THERE THE ROOM WAS PACKED WHEN YOU HAD THE IN PERSON SESSIONS, WERE THERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE FROM THE SAME BUSINESS THAT SHOWED UP, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE WERE? YOU SAID THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 64. NO, 28 RESPONSES OUT OF 1300 BUSINESSES. BUT YOU SAID THE ROOM WAS PACKED. SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE SAME BUSINESS THAT SHOWED UP? IS THAT WHY RESPONSES WERE SO LOW? FROM WHAT WE COULD TELL BY THE BUSINESS INTRODUCED THEMSELVES, THERE WAS MAYBE AT MOST 2 TO 3 PEOPLE FROM ONE BUSINESS. IF THERE WERE MULTIPLE AT ALL. AND MR. ROGERS, WHEN YOU SAID YOU SENT INFORMATION OUT TO ALL THE BUSINESSES, DID YOU ALL SEND AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY THAT HAS A BUSINESS LICENSE? WE TOOK A LIST, MAYOR, AND WITH WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD, WE DID SEND OUT INFORMATION TO BUSINESSES. WE POSTED INFORMATION ON THE ON THE WEBSITE AND WE SEND IT OUT. WE

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HAVE A FAIRLY ROBUST NEWSLETTER WITH BUSINESSES, CONTACTS AS WELL. SO WE SENT OUT A MYRIAD OF THAT INFORMATION MULTIPLE TIMES. SO BUT WHEN YOU SAY YOU TOOK A LIST, WAS IT THE LIST FROM THE BUSINESS LICENSE? YES, MA'AM. WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD PART OF THAT, AND THEN A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD IN OUR OWN DOMAIN, WHICH HAS BUSINESS LISTINGS, PHONE NUMBERS, EMAIL ADDRESSES, CONTACT NAMES, DID WE PUT ANYTHING IN THE UTILITY BILLS? NO, MA'AM. WE DIDN'T DO THAT, MAYOR. UNFORTUNATELY. AND SO I'M SORRY. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE TIMELINE SLIDE. YOU SAID IN THE FEBRUARY MARCH. SO THERE'S STILL OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER INFORMATION ON THE STAKEHOLDER LIST. I MEAN, THAT WAS A VERY DIVERSE LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS. I DIDN'T SEE MARTA, AS WAS MENTIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL INCLUDED AS A PART OF THIS. WHEN WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH MARTA AND ARE TALKING ABOUT A TOD AT OUR EAST POINT STATION AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS, WE ARE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO WHEN MARTA SAID, WE'RE DOING THIS IN THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE, IT WAS LIKE, CAN Y'ALL MOVE THE LINE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT AT OUR BORDER OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU ALL THINKING ABOUT ENGAGING OR GETTING COMMUNICATION FROM OR INTERACTING WITH OTHER PARTNERS LIKE MARTA? ARC, ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION AND OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, BUT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEIR VOICE AS A PART OF OUR PLAN AS WELL. YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS GREAT FEEDBACK. WE'VE CERTAINLY REACHED OUT TO THOSE FOLKS TO INVITE THEM. BUT YEAH, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY TIME FOR INPUT. I MEAN, WE CAN REOPEN THE BUSINESS SURVEY, TRY TO GET IT OUT TO OTHERS AS NECESSARY. YOU KNOW, WE CAN OFFER A PRIZE FOR THOSE TO TAKE THE BUSINESS SURVEY. CAN WE INCENTIVIZE IT? I MEAN THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN DO. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET 100% PARTICIPATION, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU ALL ARE HAPPY WITH THE AMOUNT OF INPUT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE YOU GUYS HAPPY AS YOU CAN BE AND, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH US OPENING THE PUBLIC INPUT PIECE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY KEEP AT IT BECAUSE, YEAH, WE'RE NOT DONE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THING IS WE'RE NOT DONE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS TO KIND OF PUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU AND, AND GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND REACTIONS AND INCORPORATE THAT BEFORE WE GET DONE. WELL, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU COMING LIKE IN MIDSTREAM AND NOT AT THE END. AND WE'RE LIKE, CAN YOU MAKE 90 MORE DAYS? RIGHT. SO I THINK THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO BE FLEXIBLE. ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO DO THAT.

CONTINUE TO GET INFORMATION FROM KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND PEOPLE WITHIN OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL. AGAIN, UTILITY BILLS, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN ACTIVE BUSINESS LICENSE GETS A DIRECT COMMUNICATION ABOUT THIS WOULD BE BE I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. SO OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT. AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE TO WORK WITH MISTER ROGERS AND HIS STAFF. WE DO THESE TYPES OF PLANS ALL OVER THE REGION, HAVE DONE MANY OF THEM, AND PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND EVERYBODY'S GOT GREAT STAFF. BUT BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF IS TOP NOTCH, NO DOUBT. AND IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE WORKING WITH THEM TO DATE. AND WE KNOW WE'LL WE'LL FINISH IT OUT STRONG TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. YOU TOO. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YES. NEXT UP, OUR FRIENDS FROM

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MIAC INTERACTIVE RESEARCH PLAN, MISS JESSE, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM MIAC AND THOMAS MANGRUM WILL INTRODUCE THEM. EVENING, MADAM.

MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I HAVE WITH ME MR. STEWART JONES AND MR. STEVE JACKSON. FOR ME TO GO OVER TO. IT WAS A MISPRINT. IT WAS THE IT'S THE INTEGRATED RESEARCH PLAN TO IRP. SO THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW. AND LET ME START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO POWER.

YOU ALL HAVE A WHOLE NEW FAN CLUB AT THE WAY YOU MANAGE THIS RECENT STORM. AND REALLY THE

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RESPONSE TIMES ARE QUICK. POWER IS BACK UP. I THINK HE SURPRISED A LOT OF PEOPLE AND YOU WORKED THROUGH SOME VERY, VERY INCLEMENT WEATHER. I'M SURE. SOME CHALLENGING, MAYBE EVEN DANGEROUS. YES, MA'AM. SITUATIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE OUR POWER IS BACK UP AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE. SO THANK YOU AND ALL OF THE POWER TEAM ISN'T HERE. I DEFINITELY WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL. AND I'VE SAID IT IN STATEMENTS AS WELL.

BUT YOU PUBLIC POWER, PUBLIC WORKS, OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE JUST IT WAS VERY SEAMLESS. IT APPEARED SEAMLESS. LET'S SAY THAT I KNOW YOU ALL DEALT WITH A LOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES, A LOT OF CHALLENGES, EXTREMELY COLD. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

WE'RE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS OF EAST POINT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE RELIABLE POWER. THAT'S FOR ONE. AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET IT BACK UP IN A IN A GOOD TIME. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. AND WE APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS FOR COMMENTING AND MAKING OUR SO SHOWING US THAT WE'RE THAT WE APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK YOU GUYS. YOU'RE WELCOME. HERE'S GOOD MR. MR. STUART JONES AND MR. STEVE JACKSON. THANK YOU. EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. FIRST OFF IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BE HERE. LET ME JUST SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, I'M A RESIDENT OF COLLEGE PARK, SO I KNOW WHERE MY WATER COMES AS WELL. AND THE JONESES CERTAINLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. SO AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT, GOOD JOB. KEEP IT UP. STEVE JACKSON, OUR SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT. AND HE WILL LEAD THE DISCUSSION ON THE INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN. THE ELECTRIC GENERATION INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK. THIS CONVERSATION IS REALLY A FOLLOW UP FROM A DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST FALL. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENT SOLAR POWER PROJECT THAT'S UNDERWAY WITH MEAG POWER IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND SO THE QUESTION THE MAYOR RAISED WILL, WHEN MAY THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INVESTMENT IN ADDITIONAL SOLAR POWER? SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU JUST A INTERIM UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND ON OUR INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLANNING EFFORT. AND OF COURSE, AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR BRINGING YOU POTENTIALLY SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ON ON SOLAR POWER AND OTHER RESOURCES.

SO. HERE WE GO. DID YOU GET THAT? OH THANK YOU. SO JUST A REMINDER, AN INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN IS A 25 YEAR STUDY WHERE WE LOOK OUT LONG TERM TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF RESOURCES MAY BE GOOD TO ADD TO THE POWER SYSTEM, AND THAT CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OTHER RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING RETIRED, MAYBE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT MAY BE EXPIRING OR OTHER JUST NATURAL GROWTH IN POWER NEEDS. AND SO YOU MAY NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. SO WE DO THIS AND LOOK OUT OVER A 25 YEAR PERIOD. IN THIS CASE WE LOOKED FROM 2023 THROUGH 2048. AND SO WE DID DETERMINE AS PART OF THAT STUDY THAT BECAUSE OF THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT THE MIAC PARTICIPANTS HAVE, LIKE NUCLEAR, IN PARTICULAR SOME GAS FIRED RESOURCES, THAT WE EXPECT THAT A LOT OF THE NEEDS THAT WE SEE FOR THE MEMBERS OVER THIS NEXT 25 YEARS, PARTICULARLY LOOKING AT THE NEXT TEN YEARS, COULD LIKELY BE FILLED USING SOLAR POWER AND POSSIBLY BATTERY STORAGE TO GO WITH THAT. SO. SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS THE INITIAL RESULTS OF THE STUDY. WE PROVIDED THE CITY OF EAST POINT SOME INDIVIDUAL RESULTS BASED ON THAT STUDY. AND BUT THAT WAS BASED ON JUST ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT THE COST OF THESE RESOURCES WOULD BE. SO IN ORDER TO FINE TUNE THIS STUDY, WE HAD TO GO. WE HAD TO TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS. AND SO THE FIRST OF THOSE IS I NOTED HERE WAS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS THAT WE THAT WE ISSUED LOOKING FOR PRICING INFORMATION AND ACTUAL PROPOSALS ON POWER RESOURCES. AND I'LL DELVE INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT ALSO WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT HOW LOAD NEEDS ARE CHANGING WITHIN OUR MEMBER CITIES, OUR 49 COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF BIG DATA CENTER LOADS LOOKING AROUND IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. THERE'S OTHER GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. SO WE WANTED TO ADDRESS CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THOSE AS WELL. AND WE DO HAVE SOME EPA RULES THAT COULD IMPACT THE COAL FIRED GENERATION FROM PLANT SCHERER THAT OUR MEMBERS HAVE AS WELL. WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THAT. WHOOPS. WRONG WAY. THERE WE GO. AND SO REALLY,

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THE MEAT OF WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THIS PROCESS WE'VE BEEN IN TO LOOK AT NEW RESOURCE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITIES AND THE CITY OF EAST POINT. SO WE ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL BACK IN AUGUST. WE OPENED IT UP TO LOOK AT ALL TYPES OF RESOURCES SOLAR POWER, BATTERIES FOR ENERGY STORAGE, AND THEN ALSO NATURAL GAS, NATURAL GAS RESOURCES. AND WE INCLUDED NATURAL GAS RESOURCES BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE LARGE LOADS THAT ARE LOOKING AT AT VARIOUS COMMUNITIES. SO WHEN YOU'RE ADDING A LARGE LOAD, THAT'S A 24 BY SEVEN LOAD THAT DOES REQUIRE SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST PARTICULARLY SOLAR AND BATTERIES. SO WE RECEIVED OUR RESPONSES IN OCTOBER. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE WE HAD VERY STRONG RESPONSES. 23 SOLAR PROJECTS, 19 SOLAR AND BATTERIES, 18 BATTERY PROJECTS, AND 12 GAS RELATED OR SYSTEM POWER PROPOSALS. SO A VERY STRONG RESPONSE. WE ARE PLEASED BY THAT. WE'VE NOW CULLED THAT LIST DOWN TO 16 DIFFERENT PROPOSALS. 11 OF THOSE ARE SOLAR AND BATTERY STORAGE RELATED. AND SO WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PROCESS NOW IS TALKING TO THOSE SUPPLIERS, VETTING THOSE PROPOSALS EVEN FURTHER, MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND ALL THE DETAILS, AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK AND UPDATE OUR OUR ANALYSIS AND COME BACK TO YOU, POSSIBLY LIKELY LATE THIS IN THE SUMMER THIS YEAR, WITH SOME MORE SPECIFIC RESULTS FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROCESS, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT TIMELINE TO EXPECT TO BE HEARING MORE LATER IN THE YEAR. WE, YOU KNOW, THE SOLAR PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED WOULD LIKELY BEGIN TO PRODUCE POWER IN MAYBE 2028 OR 2029. SO THREE TO 3 TO 4 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. AND SO AGAIN, AS AS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT, YOU HAVE A VERY LOW EMISSIONS POWER PORTFOLIO HERE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. VERY LOW EMISSIONS PROFILE. IT SHOULD BE A SELLING POINT FOR YOU FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN INCREMENTAL LOAD, MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL SOLAR POWER WOULD AGAIN IMPROVE THAT PORTFOLIO. SOME MAYBE BE ATTRACTIVE TO SOME NEW BUSINESSES AS WELL. SO BUT WE WILL BE DIGGING INTO THAT FURTHER. WE WILL BE TALKING WITH YOUR STAFF ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE, WHAT YOU WANT TO PLAN FOR, WHAT YOUR LOAD MAY LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN FINE TUNE THAT AND COME BACK WITH YOU SOME SPECIFIC RESULTS. I DO UNDERSTAND ANY FURTHER COMMITMENTS TO POWER RESOURCES IS YOUR DECISION MAKING. POWER WILL GIVE YOU INFORMATION. WE MAY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU ULTIMATELY TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO INVEST IN MORE RESOURCES OR NOT. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO BRING IN FRONT OF YOU. NOW, THE MAYOR HAD ASKED WHEN MAY THAT OPPORTUNITY COME? AND I WANTED TO JUST TO GIVE YOU THE INSIGHTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETIME LATER THIS YEAR, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON THAT AND HOPEFULLY HAVE MORE SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON AT THIS TIME. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO I THINK IT WAS BACK IN 2021. MAYBE WE WERE 99% NON CO2 EMITTING. AND I JUST LOOKED AT OUR PROFILE ONLINE.

WE'RE AT 94% FOR THE. SO FOR THE LAST LIKE 3 TO 5 YEARS WE'VE BEEN 94 HIGHER EVEN AT 99.

RIGHT. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE TO CLEAN THE SYSTEM, CLEAN THIS ENERGY IN THE MY PORTFOLIO AS WELL AS GEORGIA POWER'S EMISSIONS NUMBERS ARE HIGHER THAN EAST POINT AS WELL. YEAH, I THINK I THINK GEORGIA POWER IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 3,435% NON EMISSIONS WITH THEIR NUCLEAR AND THEIR HYDROPOWER. YOURS IS VERY HIGH. AND SO AGAIN I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SELLING POINT FOR THE CITY. AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN HELP YOU AND EVEN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO LET ME JUST ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE SOLAR AND BATTERY STORAGE MORE PARTICULAR CAUSES ME A LEVEL OF ANXIETY BECAUSE BATTERY STORAGES ARE VERY UNSAFE. THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH OUT THERE THAT IF THEY CATCH FIRE, YOU JUST GOTTA JUST LET THEM BURN. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IN OUR COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE TRY TO PUT THESE TYPES OF USES CLOSER, CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL OR WHERE PEOPLE ARE INTERACTING AND ENGAGING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I

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KNOW HYDRO COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT LIKE AND THEN WE DIDN'T BY INTO VOGTLE THREE AND FOUR. BUT WE DO HAVE NUCLEAR IN OUR MIX. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HELPS US WITH OUR LOW EMISSIONS. BUT WILL THERE BE OTHER OPTIONS? I MEAN, BECAUSE AGAIN, BATTERY STORAGE IS JUST SO UNSAFE. AND I SEE HERE YOU HAD SOME NATURAL GAS SYSTEM PROPOSALS. ARE YOU ALL LOOKING AT I MEAN, I'VE HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT BIOFUEL LIKE OTHER TYPES OF CLEANER ENERGY THAT MIGHT BE SAFER THAN JUST SOLAR WITH BATTERY STORAGE. WELL, JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, BATTERIES HAVE THEIR ISSUES. BATTERIES ARE NEW. YOU KNOW, WE THINK THEY MAY HAVE A ROLE IN THE FUTURE. I THINK MOST LIKELY WE WOULD YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE'D BE LOOKING AT SOLAR POWER. BUT ANY BATTERY SYSTEMS THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER WOULD, WOULD, WOULD BE REMOTE TO THE CITY. I MEAN, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT LIKELY LOCATING THEM AT A SOLAR FACILITY THAT'S OUT, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THE RURAL AREA. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BENEFIT THAT WE CAN CONNECT THAT TO THE TRANSMISSION GRID. AND YOU GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT, EVEN IF IT'S WELL OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. SO WE DO RECOGNIZE THE SAFETY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH BATTERIES. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT. AND LOOKING AT FURTHER, WE CERTAINLY WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ANY ANY INSTALLATION THAT WOULD BE OF ANY CONCERN TO, YOU KNOW, TO ANY, ANY NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE AROUND THE STATE. SO WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKING AT THAT. YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PROPOSALS FOR ANY OTHER TYPE OF RENEWABLE RESOURCES SUCH AS BIOMASS. WE OPENED IT UP TO, YOU KNOW, ALL OPPORTUNITIES. WIND, OF COURSE, IS NOT GREAT IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY. SO AND WE DON'T DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PROPOSALS FROM BIOMASS. BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT AS WELL. LIKE, LIKE OUR STUDY HAS INDICATED, WE DON'T EXPECT TO ADD NATURAL GAS UNLESS SOME OF THESE LARGE LOADS COME TO FRUITION. AND SO THAT REALLY WOULD BE DONE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN SYSTEM RELIABILITY.

WHEN YOU ADD A LARGE 24 BY SEVEN LOAD. BUT IN YOUR CASE YOU HAVE A LOT OF BASE LOAD AVAILABLE POWER WITH YOUR NUCLEAR, YOU HAVE SOME PEAKING POWER WITH YOUR SOLAR. AND WE THINK WITH YOUR HYDROPOWER, AND WE THINK YOUR SOLAR WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THAT MIX AND FIT WELL WITHIN YOUR LOAD PROFILE. HAVE YOU ALL HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE FEDS ABOUT MORE HYDRO BECOMING AVAILABLE NOW? YOU KNOW, THE ONLY INTERESTING THING ABOUT THEIR ABOUT HYDROPOWER THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IS WHAT THEY CALL PUMPED STORAGE PROJECTS. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TWO RESERVOIRS, A LOWER RESERVOIR, AN UPPER RESERVOIR. YOU'LL FILL THE UPPER RESERVOIR.

YOU ALLOW THE WATER TO DROP TO CREATE HYDROPOWER. AND THEN AT TIME, AT LOW COST TIMES, YOU PUMP THE WATER BACK UP TO THE UPPER RESERVOIR. ACTUALLY, SOME OF YOUR CPA PROJECTS HAVE THAT ABILITY. SO SOME PLACES IN THE COUNTRY THEY'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THAT PUMPED STORAGE HYDRO AS A PEAKING RESOURCE. SO AS FAR AS NEW DAMS ON RIVERS, IT'S NOT LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WITH THAT. BUT SOME OF THESE PUMPED HYDRO OPPORTUNITIES MAY PRESENT THEMSELVES. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, I ALWAYS GET WONSLEY AND SHEARER CONFUSED. WONSLEY HAS BEEN TOTALLY DECOMMISSIONED. YES, WE'RE WORKING ON THE SHEARER DECOMMISSION PLAN. I'LL SHARE RIGHT NOW IS NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC DECOMMISSIONED TIMELINE. IT COULD BE IMPACTED THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY THE CO2 RULES WHICH COULD REQUIRE IT TO RETIRE BY THE EARLY 2030S OR MID 2030S. SO THAT'S NOT DEFINITIVE AT THIS POINT. BUT THE WAMSLEY COAL UNITS HAVE BEEN RETIRED AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DEMOLITION OF THE PLANNING, THE DEMOLITION OF THOSE COAL GENERATING UNITS. AND WE HAVE VERY LITTLE COAL IN OUR MIX, IN OUR ENERGY MIX. RIGHT. YES, YES. THE COAL GENERATION IS REALLY THE LEAST USE OF ALL OF OUR RESOURCES RIGHT NOW. IT'S BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THESE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE BENEFIT IT DOES BRING IS WHEN YOU HAVE THESE COLD WEATHER TIMES WHEN GAS DEMAND IS HIGH, YOU'VE GOT THE COAL ON THE GROUND, IT'S AVAILABLE TO RUN AND IT PROVIDES SYSTEM RELIABILITY. SO THAT'S REALLY THE BIG BENEFIT OF IT AT THIS TIME. THESE PARTICULARLY THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS WE SAW IN THE LAST FEW DAYS AND MAY SEE AGAIN NEXT WEEK. WE'RE EXPECTING ANOTHER VERY COLD PERIOD OF TIME THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK AS WELL. SO. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE

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OUR PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION WITH MIAC AND ALL THE SUPPORT THAT YOU PROVIDE TO US AND TO STAFF. AND SO THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. HAPPY NEW YEAR I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU THIS YEAR. WELL HAPPY NEW YEAR. ABSOLUTELY. AND AGAIN AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IG OR AG POWER COULD SUPPORT YOU ON, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE, WE'RE PART OF YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ENGAGE IN IN THAT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MANGRUM. I THINK SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POWER, WE

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CAN TALK ABOUT FIVE AND 41. THE MESSAGING THROUGH OUR AUTOMATED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM CALLED UTILITY HAWK. SO GEORGIA POWER SENDS OUT. CONTINUOUS OR I SAY FREQUENT UPDATES DURING OUTAGES DIRECTLY TO CUSTOMERS VIA TEXT MESSAGE AND UPDATES THEM ALONG THE WAY AROUND ESTIMATED RESTORATION TIME WHEN POWER HAS BEEN RESTORED, HOW TO LET THEM KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL HAVING CHALLENGES. AND SO WANTING TO KNOW HOW OUR UTILITY HAWK SYSTEM WORKS AS IT RELATES TO AM I? BECAUSE NOW WE'RE 100% CONVERTED TO AM METERS, RIGHT? FOR ELECTRIC AND WATER? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WATER, BUT BUT 100% FOR POWER. FOR POWER? YES. RIGHT. AND SO THOUGH THEY SENT TEXT MESSAGE AT 330 IN THE MORNING WHEN IT FIRST HAPPENED, 10:00 IN THE MORNING WITH THE UPDATE, AND THEN 130 AROUND 130 IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN IT WAS RESTORED. RIGHT. BUT AND IT'S BASED UPON YOUR RESIDENCE, YOUR ADDRESS. SO IT WAS COMING DIRECTLY TO THE CUSTOMERS AND PROVIDING DIRECT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND, AND RESTORATION TIME. AND SO DOES UTILITY HAWK OFFER SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND HOW CAN WE INCORPORATE THIS AS A PART OF OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGY AROUND OUTAGES? I HAVE TO SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THEY WERE SENDING OUT COMMUNICATION IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING AS WELL. BUT EVERYBODY'S NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, RIGHT? AND EVERYBODY'S NOT LOOKING AT OUR WEBSITE. AND SO THIS ABILITY TO RECEIVE DIRECT COMMUNICATION VIA TEXT, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR EAST POINT POWER CUSTOMERS. I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. OKAY. I'M GOING TO PRESENT TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL. MY NAME IS ALICIA PARSONS. MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW ME AS LISA PARSONS, AND I AM THE ACTING ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF EAST POINT POWER. I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON UTILITY HAWK. IN JULY OF 2024, WE LAUNCHED UTILITY HAWK IN EAST POINT, A SERVICE DESIGNED TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY OF APPROXIMATELY 28,000 METERED CUSTOMERS, 18,000 OF WHOM ARE ELECTRIC CUSTOMERS AND ABOUT 12,000 WATER CUSTOMERS. SINCE OUR LAUNCH, AROUND 1400 CUSTOMERS HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THE SERVICE. TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT UTILITY HAWK, WE'VE EMPLOYED A VARIETY OF OUTREACH EFFORTS, INCLUDING MAILERS AND UTILITY BILLS, SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING, AND DISTRIBUTING FLIERS AT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LOCATION. LOOKING AHEAD, WE ARE PLANNING A ZOOM TOWN HALL MEETING IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2025 TO FURTHER ENGAGE WITH OUR RESIDENTS. THE TOWN HALL WAS ANNOUNCED ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN DECEMBER OF 2024, AND CUSTOMERS ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE, ASK QUESTIONS AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE APP. A REPRESENTATIVE FROM UTILITY HAWK WILL BE JOINING US TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, EAST POINT POWER WILL PROVIDE SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION FOR OUR HEARING IMPAIRED RESIDENTS. ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL OFFER SPANISH CAPTIONING FOR OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ENSURING THAT EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE. THE INTERACTIVE ZOOM SESSION WILL ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO ASK QUESTIONS IN REAL TIME, MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM TO GAIN A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE APP. FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, UTILITY HAWK IS A WEB BASED APPLICATION, SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR CUSTOMERS TO DOWNLOAD ANYTHING. THEY CAN ACCESS IT DIRECTLY ONLINE OR SCAN QR CODES THAT WE PROVIDED TO SIGN UP AND GET STARTED. I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT WE ARE ALSO ROLLING OUT A NEW FEATURE CALLED GROUP MESSAGING THAT WILL SOON ALLOW REAL TIME OUTAGE NOTIFICATIONS TO BE SENT TO OUR CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY TESTED THIS FEATURE, AND WHILE IT'S READY TO GO, WE'VE HELD OFF ON ITS I'M SORRY. WE'VE HELD OFF ON ITS DEPLOYMENT AS WE EXPLORE MORE COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS FOR SENDING OUT THESE NOTIFICATIONS, OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE

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TAXPAYERS MONEY, AND THAT THIS SERVICE IS ECONOMICALLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY. SOON, CUSTOMERS WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE ALERTS ABOUT DUE BILLS, MAKE ONLINE PAYMENTS AND EVEN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PRE-PAID SERVICES. SO I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE PRESENTATION. UNLOCKING THE POWER OF UTILITY HAWK. BECAUSE I THINK, OKAY, THE INTRODUCTION TO UTILITY HAWK IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I TALKED ABOUT. A PROGRAM DESIGNED TO ENHANCE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT FOR CITIZENS OF EAST POINT. IT FOCUSES ON MONITORING WATER AND ELECTRIC USAGE TO PROMOTE EFFICIENCY. SO IT'LL ALLOW REAL TIME MONITORING. THE USERS CAN TRACK THEIR WATER AND ELECTRIC CONSUMPTION. IT WILL ALSO SEND OUT ALERTS AND NOTIFICATIONS.

IT'LL ALERT. IT'LL ALERT CUSTOMERS IF THEY HAVE WATER LEAKS OR IF THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE POWER USAGE. THEY CAN SET PARAMETERS, GO BACK, GO BACK. THEY CAN SET PARAMETERS FOR WHAT THEY WANT THEIR USAGE TO BE. AND IF IT STARTS TO GET CLOSE TO WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE, IT WILL NOTIFY THEM TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY MAY WANT TO TRY TO REDUCE THEIR USAGE. WE DEPLOYED IT IN JULY OF 2024. WE DID SEND OUT MAILERS IN MONTHLY BILLS. WE POSTED IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE HAVE FLIERS AVAILABLE IN THE CUSTOMER CARE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE ABOUT 17,000 CUSTOMERS. THE CURRENT ENGAGEMENT, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 14 CITIZENS. 1400 I'M SORRY, CITIZENS SO FAR THAT HAVE OPTED IN TO USE THE SERVICE IN ORDER TO USE THE SERVICE, LIKE GEORGIA POWER, CUSTOMERS MUST CHOOSE TO RECEIVE TEXT OR EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS. THEY HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR IT, SO THEY WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO ON THE WEB BASED APPLICATION AND SIGN UP FOR AN OPT IN WITH THEIR CELL CARRIER TO SAY THAT THEY WILL ALLOW TEXT MESSAGES TO COME TO THEIR PHONES. AND THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE ELECTRIC METERS AND THE WATER METERS THAT WE HAVE, AND THE BENEFITS OF USING UTILITY HAWK FOR THE CITIZENS. AND LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW MINUTES AGO, THE REAL TIME MONITORING, LETTING THEM HAVE ALERTS FOR THE LEAKS AND EXCESSIVE POWER CONSUMPTION AND POWER OUTAGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE NOTIFICATIONS THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT GEORGIA POWER USES NOW. TALKING ABOUT THE MONITOR USAGE, HOW THEY CAN TRACK THEIR WATER AND ELECTRIC USAGE IN REAL TIME. THEY CAN SET PARAMETERS AND RECEIVE ALERTS.

HOWEVER, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE NOTIFIED WHETHER IT'S BY TEXT MESSAGE, WHETHER IT'S BY EMAIL.

THEY CAN RECEIVE PHONE CALLS. ALSO, THEY CAN ADDRESS ISSUES THAT'LL LET THEM KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING. IN THAT WAY, THEY CAN CONTACT US TO LET US KNOW WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE CAN HAVE DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CUSTOMER, AND IT ALLOWS THEM TO STAY INFORMED AND THE OVERALL ENHANCES THE UTILITY MANAGEMENT. AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT THE REAL TIME POWER OUTAGE NOTIFICATIONS, WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO LET THEM KNOW, SEND OUT EMAILS LIKE YOU SAID ON ON FACEBOOK, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEND IT OUT IN HOUSE TO LET THEM KNOW IN REAL TIME THAT THERE ARE OUTAGES AND ESTIMATED TIME OF RESTORATIONS. AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT OUR CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE THE 1400 ACTIVE SIGN INS, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BY FEDERAL LAW, THEY DO HAVE TO OPT IN FOR THOSE PHONE CALLS TO COME TO THEIR CELL PHONES. THEY THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION OF UTILITY HAWK PROGRAM. HOW WE INTRODUCED IT, THE CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT, THEM OPTING IN. AND AGAIN THE BENEFITS. AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE, IT TALKS ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CUSTOMERS WILL GET IF THEY DECIDE TO SIGN UP FOR THE REAL TIME OUTAGE NOTIFICATION IS THE ONE THAT WE REALLY WANT TO PUSH WITH THIS. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE ALERTS AND THE ALARMS. A LOT OF TIMES A LOT OF THE CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE WATER, THEY'LL HAVE WATER LEAKS THAT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT, AND THEN THEY'LL GET A HUGE BILL SO THAT THEY WERE SIGNED UP FOR IT. IT WILL LET THEM KNOW IMMEDIATELY THAT THEY HAVE A LEAK THAT THEY NEED TO LOOK INTO. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON WITH UTILITY HAWK. THESE ARE THE WAYS THAT WE WANT TO UTILIZE IT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH FOR THAT OVERVIEW AND PRESENTATION. YOU SAID THE ZOOM TOWN HALL MEETING, WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING THAT? WE HAVE WE DON'T HAVE LIKE THE EXACT DATE. WE KNOW WE WANT TO DO IT FIRST QUARTER OF 2025. WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO SIGN UP. WE DO HAVE THE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE MAILERS. WE HAVE THE FLIERS.

IT'S JUST HARD TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IT IS AVAILABLE. AND SO I THINK THE

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ZOOM RECORDING IS A ZOOM OPTION IS A GOOD START. WILL IT BE RECORDED. SO THEN IT COULD LIVE ONLINE? AND WILL YOU HAVE IN PERSON? OPPORTUNITIES IS ONE. AND THEN MAYBE HAVING FLIERS AT ALL EAST POINT EVENTS AND THEN CITY HALL AND LIKE EVERYWHERE, LIKE TRYING TO GET THE WORD BECAUSE I WAS YOU WERE READING MY MIND. I WAS LIKE, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD MAKE THEM OPT OUT VERSUS OPT IN? BUT YOU MENTIONED FEDERAL LAW, BUT YEAH, IF IS THERE A WAY TO RECORD THE ZOOM SO IT CAN LIVE ONLINE AND THEN OFFER IN-PERSON OPTIONS, GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. RIGHT. AND LIKE JUST IN ALL LIKE PARKS AND REC, ALL OF THE CITY BUILDINGS PLANNING HERE THE COURT AT ANY EVENTS THAT WE HAVE LIKE TO REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO OPT IN TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. YES, IT WILL IT WE WILL RECORD IT, IT WILL LIVE ONLINE AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE, THE COMMUNICATIONS TO GET IT OUT ON SOCIAL MORE OFTEN. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY IDEAS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT AND I WASN'T SURE TO ASK, I KNOW IT'LL IMPACT CUSTOMER CARE, BUT WHEN CUSTOMERS GO IN TO PAY THEIR BILLS, IF THEY CAN BE ASKED, DO YOU WANT TO SIGN UP? I KNOW IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE LONGER, BUT I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD WAY TO GET THE WORD OUT. MAYBE HAVE FLIERS POSTED AT EACH SESSION WHEN THEY COME IN OR EACH KIOSK.

JUST TRYING TO THINK OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN IN, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 5% SO FAR. YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. I THINK THE MORE WE GET PLASTERED EVERYWHERE, AND OF COURSE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING THERE TO PLAN UTILITIES, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. WE NEED TO GET THE NUMBERS UP. I MEAN, BECAUSE BEING ABLE TO JUST LOOK AT YOUR PHONE AND SAY, OH, OKAY. AND THEN CONTINUE TO GET THE UPDATES EVERY THIS IS WHAT, 4 OR 5 HOURS, WHATEVER IT WAS. I MEAN, PEOPLE WERE ASLEEP AT THREE SOMETHING. YOU WAKE UP, YOU GOT SOMETHING AT TEN AND YOU GOT SOMETHING A COUPLE HOURS LATER, RIGHT. AND AGAIN, COMMUNICATIONS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SHARING, BUT EVERYBODY'S NOT ONLINE. AND THEN WHEN POWER GOES OUT, RIGHT. IF YOUR PHONE IS IN CHARGE THAT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO WILL BE AT LEAST BE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS, YOU'RE NEXT. AND YOU ALSO HAD A ITEM OF EAST POINT POWER IMPROVEMENTS AND UPDATES.

SO WE CAN DISCUSS ALL OF THAT AT THIS POINT. AND THEN YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO I WAS CHECKING THE AGENDA. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LEAVE AFTER THIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND MR. MANGRUM AND MISS PERSONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE MAYOR'S SENTIMENTS. I DID GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK FROM EAST POINT RESIDENTS DURING THE STORM. FOR THOSE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ON EAST POINT POWER, THE RESPONSE TIME WAS INCREDIBLE. THEY EVEN JOKED AND SAID, ARE THEY CAMPING OUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? THEY'RE COMING SO FAST. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT AND HELPING TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES SAFE AND WARM. THE QUESTION ABOUT THE UTILITY HAWK I HEARD YOU, MISS PERSONS. YOU SAID THAT WE'VE DEPLOYED THIS IN JULY OF 24, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK THAT EAST POINT POWER WAS LOOKING TO ROLL OUT. BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND THE MOST ECONOMICAL OPTION. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THOSE DOLLARS. YES.

WHAT PART WAS THAT? I MISSED THAT PART. SO OKAY. THE FEATURE THAT DESIGNED FOR SENDING OUT THE OUTAGE NOTIFICATIONS IS KNOWN AS GROUP MESSAGING. WE HAVE YET TO DEPLOY IT DUE TO THE PRICING STRUCTURE OF UTILITY HAWK. THE WAY IT WORKS IS THEY CHARGE APPROXIMATELY $0.20 PER TEXT MESSAGE AND AROUND 30% PER ROBOCALL. THEY ALSO OFFER PRICING FOR EMAILS AND PUSH NOTIFICATIONS. IN CONTRAST, WE ARE LOOKING AT A COMPETITOR THAT IS CONSIDERING CHARGES OF ONLY $0.05 PER ROBOCALL AND $0.04 PER TEXT MESSAGES WITH FREE EMAILS AND PUSH NOTIFICATIONS. THERE'S A CHARACTER LIMIT OF ABOUT 60 TO 120 CHARACTERS PER MESSAGE, AND SO THIS LIMITATION CAN BECOME EXTREMELY COSTLY IF WE NEED TO RELAY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION GIVEN THE FREQUENCY OF, YOU KNOW, OUTAGE UPDATES THAT WE LIKE TO PROVIDE TO YOU GUYS, REGULARLY NOTIFYING THE CUSTOMERS COULD ALSO LEAD TO HIGH EXPENSES. SO THE PRICING OPERATES ON A TIERED SYSTEM. THE MORE PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP, THE MORE THE COST PER MESSAGE BECOMES. AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY REASONS WHY WE HAVE NOT YET IMPLEMENTED THE FEATURE. CURRENTLY, WE'RE WAITING FOR MORE CUSTOMERS TO ENROLL IN THE SERVICE. WE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 5% OR 1400 CUSTOMERS. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACTIVELY EXPLORE WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE MORE CITIZENS.

BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF UPDATES THAT WE PROVIDE FOR CUSTOMERS, IT WILL BE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY COSTLY. IF IT'S 10 TO $0.20 PER TEXT MESSAGE, RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. SO BASICALLY I HEARD YOU

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SAY, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE GET MORE CUSTOMERS TO SIGN UP FOR UTILITY HAWK. SO THE MORE FOLKS WE'VE GOT, THEN THE LOWER THE COST. CORRECT? OKAY. IS THERE A THRESHOLD? SO I KNOW YOU SAID WE'RE AROUND 5% WITH 1400. AND SO IS THERE A THRESHOLD AND IF SO, ARE THERE ANY PLANS IN PLACE TO SORT OF MEET THAT THRESHOLD? AND HOW CAN, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE MEASURES THAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED WITH THE MAYOR, HOW CAN WE BE HELPFUL TO GET TO THAT THRESHOLD? SO THE THRESHOLDS ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, YOU GET TO A CERTAIN NUMBER AND IT'S ONE PRICE. AND THEN WHEN YOU CROSS OVER, IT'S ANOTHER PRICE. WE CAN COVER EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE. BUT THE PRICING WILL DEPEND ON THAT. SO IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN GET TO SIGN UP. I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE TOWN HALL AND WE GET THE WORD OUT THAT MORE PEOPLE WILL SIGN UP, BUT WE REALLY JUST WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THE NUMBERS FOR THEM TO SIGN UP TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS IT WILL BE. BUT I KNOW WITH THEM SAYING THAT 60 TO 20, WHEN YOU GO OVER A CERTAIN CHARACTER, IT'LL GO INTO A SECOND TEXT MESSAGE. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SEND ONE NOTIFICATION, IF IT'S TOO MANY CHARACTERS AND IT GOES TO A SECOND ONE, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO COSTLY, RIGHT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION. SO IT'S THE WE'VE ROLLED IT OUT BUT IT'S THE NOTIFICATION COMPONENT, EITHER THE TEXT MESSAGE OR THE ROBOCALL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO FIND LOWER COST. YES. CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE USING IT FOR IS THE NOTIFICATIONS, THE LEAKS, THE WATER LEAKS, ALERTING CUSTOMERS AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT KIND OF THING. COMING SOON, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR BILLS ONLINE WITH IT. IT'LL ALSO OFFER PREPAY SERVICES, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ROLLED OUT. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PHASE OF USING IT FOR THE WATER LEAKS AND THE NOTIFICATIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NUMBER FIVE. MADAM MAYOR, AS IT RELATES TO NUMBER 41, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY I'M TRYING TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE. ARE WE JUST MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM? SO I SAID WE CAN COMBINE THEM SO THAT THEY CAN LEAVE AFTER THIS. SO I CAN. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS CAN SHARE WHAT WHAT HE HAD FOR 41. AND THEN I HAVE YOU ALL IN AND WE'LL JUST MAKE IT A PART OF THE DISCUSSION SO THEY CAN LEAVE WHEN THEY'RE DONE. FOR. SO FOR NUMBER 41, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME DOLLARS THAT WERE APPROVED TO HELP CUT DOWN TREES, PRUNE TREES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO THE QUESTION AROUND THAT, YOU'VE ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, BECAUSE I DID HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT NOTIFICATIONS AND COMMUNICATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE EAST POINT POWER. PAYERS, RATEPAYERS. OKAY. BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE TREES AND THE PRUNING AND THE CUT DOWN, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THOSE GREATLY ASSISTED IN TERMS OF YOUR RESPONSE TIME AND THE FEWER POWER OUTAGES THAT WE PROBABLY HAD DUE TO THE STORM, AND IF SO, WHAT OTHER KIND OF MEASURES CAN WE TAKE THAT WILL ALSO BETTER ASSIST AS WELL? I WOULD SAY YES, BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF OUTAGES WE HAD, WE ONLY HAD SECONDARY OUTAGES, MAINLY WHEN WE HAD THREE PHASE OUTAGES WHEN WE DROPPED OUT THE WHEN THE SUBSTATION DROPPED OUT, WE HAD FIVE OF THOSE OVER THE OVER THE COURSE OF THE STORM AND WE WAS ABLE TO GET POWER BACK TO THOSE CUSTOMERS QUICKLY. ARE WE STILL WORKING ON TRIMMING OUT THE SINGLE PHASE SERVICES LINES NOW? EDGE OBVIOUSLY HE'S HERE AS WELL TO GO OVER WHAT WE WHAT WHAT PHASE WE ARE WITH THE TRIMMING.

BUT YES IT HAS HELPED. IT HAS BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE WOULD HAVE HAD MORE TREES LOST POWER, THREE PHASE LINES WHICH WOULD HAVE CAUSED THE EFFECT OF HAVING THE SUBSTATION DROP OUT. SO YES, IT DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND YOU'VE GOT MORE DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THOSE THINGS. CUT DOWN AND PRUNE. WE'RE RUNNING VERY LOW. YEAH, WE WE'VE TAKEN A VERY AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO TRIMMING DOWN TREES. THESE DANGER TREES HAS CAUSED A HEADACHE FOR EVERY CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF EASTPORT. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WARD YOU LIVE IN. EVERYONE HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY DANGER TREES. SO WE TOOK AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO START REMOVING ALL THE TREES. GO BY THE WEATHER. IF IT CAN COME ACROSS OUR POWER LINES, WE WANT TO GET RID OF IT AND EDGE ALL OUR TREE ARBORISTS. HE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH TAKING ON THAT TASK AND GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THAT AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ON THAT TASK, TO PROVIDE THAT, PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE? YES. OKAY. THAT'S IT. COUNCIL MEMBER, BUTLER COUNCIL. COMMENTS. AND THEN MR. OTHER THAN YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THE LAST COUPLE. I

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HAVE. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO MISS PEARSON, NOT YOU. THIS TIME, THOMAS GOT TO TALK TO MISS PEARSON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH ME SO I CAN UPDATE OUR RESIDENTS. YOU DID A VERY YEOMAN'S JOB. WE SPOKE LATE, AND YOU WERE STILL ON THE JOB. SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT SINCE I'M GIVING THANKS, I ALSO WANT TO THANK EJ. I'VE SEEN YOUR WORK. YOU'VE DONE SOME WORK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE, I REALLY DO. THE NEXT THING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WITH THE HAWK SYSTEM, WE'RE JUST NOT SENDING OUT THE GROUP TEXT YET BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE. CORRECT. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE IS THAT TO SUPPLEMENT THIS HAWK SYSTEM. I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY NO. THE REASON THE REASON I'M GOING SAY NO UTILITY HAWK IS WE HAVE TO FIND A COMPANY THAT WORKS WITH CANNABIS, WHERE CANNABIS IS OUR ARMY SYSTEM, OUR ARMY METERING SYSTEM, THAT THAT IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE BACKHAUL. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER, WHATEVER TOOL THAT WE USE CAN WORK WITH TENANTS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO GRAB THE DATA FROM TENANTS IN ORDER TO SEND OUT TO THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO THE CUSTOMERS. SO IF THAT, IF THAT COMPANY DOES NOT WORK WITH THE TENANTS BACKHAUL, THEN WE CANNOT PROCEED. BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND ONE THAT DOES WHEN WE ATTEND THE CONFERENCE IN, IN, IN, IN THE OTHER CONFERENCES, SOME OF THEM SAY THAT THEY CAN, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO GET THEM IN THE ROOM AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. HERE'S MY FINAL QUESTION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY PUSHED FOR SOME YEARS AGO WAS TRYING TO SEE, HOW CAN WE BURY POWER LINES? SO THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, YOU GUYS SAID, WE'RE COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO BURY SOME OF THOSE POWER LINES. I'M VERY THRILLED ABOUT THAT.

WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PLANNING? OKAY. THAT'S THE GRID HARDENING PROJECT. RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE GOTTEN APPROVAL FROM MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE PIKE. PIKE HAS TO GO AND INQUIRE THE WHAT YOU CALL THE EASEMENTS FROM CUSTOMERS. SO SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE TRANSFORMERS SWITCHING CABINETS ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE NEED TO ONCE WE GOT TO BE DONE WITH THE DESIGN STAGE. NOW WE'RE IN THE STAGE OF ACQUIRING EASEMENTS FROM THE CUSTOMERS SO WE CAN PLACE THE EQUIPMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY AND ACQUIRE THAT EASEMENT. FINAL FINAL FOLLOW UP QUESTION, THEN I'LL BE DONE. SO I THINK YOUR FIRST PHASE WAS YOU WANTED TO DO THIS AROUND POWER STATIONS. I THINK IT WAS HELP ME DETERMINE WHAT THE FIRST STAGE OF THOSE LINES WERE, WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WHAT WE DID FIRST STAGE ONE WAS TO GO BACK AND DETERMINE WHICH OVER THE OVER THE LAST 5 TO 10 YEARS, WHAT WHAT SUBSTATION GAVE US THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. WE HAD THE MOST OUTAGES. SO WE TOOK WE TOOK THAT DATA AND THE DATA CAME BACK. IT WAS BEEN HERE SUBSTATION THAT THAT HAD THE MOST OUTAGES. SO FROM THAT WE HAD THE TEAM FROM HAD A TEAM TO DESIGN THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT. SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GOING WITH WITH THE UNDERGROUND SERVICES. SO YOU YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THE DESIGN PHASE OF THAT. YES, WE'VE WE'VE DONE WITH THE DESIGN STAGE. WE ARE IN THE MATERIAL ORDINANCE STAGE AND ACQUIRING THE EASEMENT STAGE. NOW WE STILL GOT SOME MATERIALS TO ORDINANCE AND SOME MATERIALS TO GET APPROVED BY COUNCIL, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY IN THAT MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO IN THE MIDST OF THE STORMS THAT WE HAVE, AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO, YOU AND YOUR STAFF, I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT YOU ALL GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PROGRAM, AND I KNOW THE MAYOR MENTIONED EVENTS. SO THERE IS AN EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON MONDAY. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION IT WILL HAVE RESIDENTS. IT'S THE MLK DAY OF SERVICE AND THAT IF YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO PASS OUT THE INFORMATION TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE ATTENDING THAT EVENT. OKAY, OKAY. WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. I THINK IT WAS NICE. OH, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, IT'S LIKE A DREAM. SO YOU HAVE THE COUNCIL.

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THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS DID OVER WITH THE WITH THE STORM, THAT WITH THE SNOW THAT CAME THROUGH. YOU GUYS DID AN AWESOME JOB. AS ALWAYS, I HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU IS THERE A FLIER FOR IS THERE A FLIER FOR THE FOR THE PROGRAM THAT UTILITY HAWK? YES, THERE IS A FLIER. THERE IS A FLIER I THINK ONE OF THE AND JUST TALKING ABOUT JUST WAYS TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT WARDS. THERE'S A ON THE WEBSITE. IT HAS LIKE ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES. AND IF YOU SEND IT TO THOSE, LIKE THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ON THERE AND THEY CAN SEND IT OUT, I JUST KNOW BECAUSE LIKE FROM MY CHERRY BLOSSOM IN 90, ABOUT 98 OF US ON THERE, AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF GETTING IT OUT. AND ALSO APARTMENT COMPLEXES. YES, THEY'RE MONTHLY MAILERS OR IN THEIR FRONT OFFICE WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY PAY THE RENT OR WHATEVER. OR I KNOW THEY DO LIKE MONTHLY MAILERS THAT THEY PUT IT IN ALL THE RESIDENTS BOXES. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. AND YOU CAN IF YOU HIT ALL THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT, THAT GIVES YOU A HUGE, HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO AS WELL. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES. REALLY QUICK. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT. I KNOW WE LIKE PUTTING ADVERTISING IN OUR UTILITY BILLS. DOES ANYBODY ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THE UTILITY HAWK. YES WE DID. THAT'S HOW WE INITIALLY STARTED OKAY. YES. AND HOW ABOUT ON THE WEBSITE. IS THERE A WAY WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY GO PAY THEIR UTILITY BILLS. IS THERE ANY WAY TO ADVERTISE ON THE I GUESS ON THE WEBSITE? YES, IT'S ON THE CUSTOMER CARE WEBSITE AND IT'S ALSO ON EAST POINT POWER'S WEBSITE. OKAY, I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT. AND I HAD ONE MORE THING FOR THIS IS FOR ITEM 41. I KNOW WE MENTIONED TREE TRIMMING. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ARE WE STILL CONTRACTING THAT SERVICE OUT? YES WE ARE. YOU SAID WE'RE RUNNING LOW ON FUNDS. I GUESS FOR THAT. MY QUESTION, I REMEMBER AT ONE POINT THIS CAME UP, I KNOW ARE THESE THE TRUCKS, TREE TRIMMING TRUCKS THAT CUT FROM 60 TO 90FT? DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT COST EFFICIENT TO SAY, BUY ONE OF THOSE TRUCKS AND STAFF IT, OR TO KEEP CONTRACTING THESE SERVICE? SO I WOULD SAY, NO, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT. WE WOULD HAVE TO NUMBER ONE, WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE THE VEHICLES. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TO STAFF IT. THAT WOULD BE A STAFF OF FOUR.

SO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WOULD SPEND ON PURCHASING THE VEHICLE AND STAFFING IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN WOULD WE USE THAT VEHICLE. WE WOULDN'T USE IT AS OFTEN AS THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WOULD PAY FOR IT. OKAY. AND FOR THESE CONTRACT SERVICES, HOW MUCH DO THEY RANGE OR HOW IS THAT, I GUESS, SITUATED? DO YOU DO IT EVERY COUPLE WEEKS OR. E.J. HALL TREE SPECIALIST. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO OUT AND TRIM, OR WHAT'S THE CADENCE FOR YOU GOING OUT TO TRIM THE TREES. SO FOR TRIM, FOR TRIMMING ALONE, THAT IS COMPRISED OF TWO IN-HOUSE CITY CREWS THAT TRIM ON A DAILY BASIS. AND WE HAVE ONE HOURLY CREW CONTRACT CREW THAT'S HERE ON A WEEKLY BASIS ON AN HOURLY CONTRACT AS WELL. THAT DOES OUR ROUTINE TRIMMING. SO BASICALLY WE'RE ON LIKE A THREE YEAR TRIMMING CYCLE. AND THAT'S JUST STRICTLY FOR MOSTLY FOR GROWTH RELATED OUTAGES. SO BASICALLY WHEN THEY TRIM THAT TREE WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH CLEARANCE DOES THIS TREE NEED TO TRIM IT AWAY FROM THE POWER LINES SO IT DOESN'T GROW BACK IN A THREE YEAR PERIOD AND CAUSE A GROWTH OUTAGE WHILE THEY'RE THERE? IF THERE'S DEAD LIMBS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY FALL ON THE LINE, THEY REMOVE THOSE AS WELL. THE TREE REMOVALS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAT WE'VE BUDGETED IN THE LAST, WHAT, 14 MONTHS? I GUESS WHEN THAT WAS INITIATED AND FUNDING WAS APPROVED TO DO THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHEN I STARTED PUTTING BOOTS ON THE GROUND AFTER HOURS INSPECTING TREES, AND COMPILED A LIST OF TREES THAT I'VE GOT SLATED FOR REMOVAL BECAUSE OF HEALTH DEFECTS OR BECAUSE OF DISEASE. AND I'VE GOT TREES ON MY MONITORING LIST THAT HAVE MAYBE MINOR DEFECTS OR SIGNS OF DISEASE. AND SO WE'VE REMOVED, I WOULD SAY, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 250 TREES, OKAY, AT THE COST OF ALMOST $1 MILLION IN THE LAST 14 MONTHS. WHICH THAT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF OUTAGES. I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE A STORM LIKE WE HAD WITH THE SNOW AND THE ICE STATEWIDE, YOU SEE ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE EXPECT POWER OUTAGES BECAUSE OF THE STORM WE HAD, I WOULD SAY AROUND 25, I

[02:20:04]

BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND 25 CALLS ALTOGETHER THAT WAS TREE RELATED OUTAGES. AND OUT OF THOSE 25, ONLY TWO OF THOSE WAS WHOLE TREE FAILURES WHERE THE WHOLE TREE FELL. AND IN THOSE TWO CIRCUMSTANCES, ONE OF THEM ONLY WAS TWO CUSTOMERS WAS AFFECTED BECAUSE OF THAT ONE TREE THAT FELL ON HUMPHRIES AND THEN THE OTHER TREE THAT FELL ON WHISPERWOOD TRAIL AFFECTED ABOUT SIX CUSTOMERS. ALL THE OTHERS WAS JUST SINGLE LIMB FAILURES, MOSTLY YOUR PINE LIMBS, WHICH CAN'T JUST SUSTAIN THE EXTRA WEIGHT LOADING OF THE ICE AND SNOW, WHICH I FEEL LIKE WAS VERY WELL COMPARED TO WHAT IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD WE NOT REMOVED A LOT OF THE DISEASE AND DEAD TREES THAT WAS LEANING TOWARD THE POWER LINES. SO IF I GOT THIS CORRECT, SO YOU CAN TAKE AN AVERAGE FOR EVERY 250 TREES, IS THAT REMOVAL OR TRIM YOU TRIMMING THE TREES. THOSE WERE REMOVED REMOVED IN THE LAST 14 MONTHS. PROBABLY ABOUT 250 TREES WERE REMOVED. IS THAT A MAJORITY OF I GUESS THE MAINTENANCE THAT YOU DO? IS IT MORE TREE TRIMMING OR TREE REMOVAL? THAT'S TWO SEPARATE. IT'S TOTALLY TWO SEPARATE ISSUES BECAUSE ALL MAJORITY OF OUR TREE REMOVALS WAS CONTRACTED OUT BY A COUPLE OTHER INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS WITH CRANE SERVICES.

DO YOU THINK THAT IS A GOOD I GUESS, IS IT COST EFFICIENT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, YEAH. WE TAKE CARE OF AS MANY AS WE CAN IN HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S WITH OUR TWO IN-HOUSE CREWS OR WITH OUR CURRENT CONTRACT CREW. IT'S MORE COST EFFICIENT AND TIME EFFICIENT TO OUTSOURCE SOME OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE TALLER. IF YOU GOT A CREW TO COME IN, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH A CRANE THAT CAN COME IN AND REMOVE THAT TREE IN 3 OR 4 HOURS WITH A CRANE, VERSUS SPENDING 3 OR 4 DAYS ON IT WITH A WITH YOUR STANDARD EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR HOURLY CREWS, THEN YES, IT'S A LOT MORE TIME EFFICIENT. HAD WE TRIED TO SPEND THE TIME TO TAKE THOSE TREES DOWN 250 TREES WITH OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TOOK MORE TIME TO GET THOSE TREE REMOVED. AND A LOT OF THE TREES THAT I HAD SLATED FOR REMOVAL MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE FELL BEFORE WE EVER GOT TO THEM.

I MEAN, WE ONLY LOST TWO TREES IN 14 MONTHS THAT I HAD SLATED FOR REMOVAL. TWO OF THOSE TREES I HAD MARKED FOR REMOVAL FAIL, AND ONE THAT I HAD MARKED FOR MONITORING PURPOSES THAT FAIL, AND THE ONE THAT I HAD MARKED FOR MONITORING PURPOSES. IT FELL OVER ON ELSINORE, I BELIEVE, TOOK EFFECT ABOUT TEN CUSTOMERS. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS WORKING. IT IS EFFECTIVE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT BUYING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT LIKE THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIX, $700,000 FOR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND THEN HIRING AN OPERATOR TO RUN IT.

THAT'S GOING TO COST MORE TO THE OPERATOR THAT THEY USE, GETS PAID MORE THAN I DO AS A SUPERVISOR. SO I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU'RE ALL NOT WILLING TO UP OUR SALARIES TO THAT KIND OF LEVEL, SO IT'S JUST NOT IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. GOTCHA. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. INTERIM DIRECTOR THOMAS MANGRUM, EJ AND MISS PEARSONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING ONE OF THE FIRST GROUP IN IN THE CITY TO HAVE ASL INTERPRETERS AND SPANISH CAPTIONED CAPTIONS. I THINK THAT'S AWESOME. THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PIONEERING THAT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON WHAT ARE WHERE ARE WE IN TRYING TO CONTAIN POWER OUTAGES. OUTAGES. SO LIKE IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S LIKE A THOUSAND OR SO CUSTOMERS AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, ARE WE WHAT'S IN THE PLAN TO HELP CONTAIN THAT. SO NOT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION WAS WHAT WAS PRIORITY. WHAT IS PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT IS COMMUNICATIONS. COMMUNICATION IS HOUSED HERE AT THE CITY OF AND CITY HALL. SO WE HAVE CAME UP WITH A PLAN TO INSTALL THE INTERRUPTER SWITCHES AROUND CITY HALL. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT KNOCKS OUT THE POWER OF THE CITY HALL, IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY PICK UP FROM ANOTHER SUBSTATION AND PROVIDE POWER TO CITY HALL. SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE LOSS OF POWER HERE. AND WE WILL NOT HAVE THE LOSS OF COMMUNICATION. THE TEAM HAVE HAS BEEN INSTRUCTED TO. THAT WOULD BE THE THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST SET OF SWITCHES THAT WE WILL INSTALL. IT WOULD THAT WOULD BE THREE SWITCHES THAT WE WILL INSTALL IN THIS AREA. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT AND SEE HOW WE GO WITH THAT. AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL POINT US IN THE DIRECTION TO OTHER AREAS AROUND THE CITY. BUT WE WILL TRY TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OUR EMERGENCY BUILDINGS FIRST, ALL OUR FIRE STATIONS, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SUSTAINABLE POWER. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO. ALL RIGHT.

[02:25:01]

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES. VERY QUICKLY. I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT FLIERS AT CUSTOMER CARE TO HELP DRIVE YOUR NUMBERS, BUT HAVE YOU ALSO CONSIDERED WORKING WITH THE DIRECTOR SO THAT FOR ANY NEW ACCOUNTS THAT ARE BEING ESTABLISHED, THAT IS A PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION VERSUS JUST HAVING A FLIER FOR CUSTOMERS THAT MAY JUST COME IN TO PAY THE BILL SO THAT NEW CUSTOMERS ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION, PERHAPS THEN A QR CODE, AND THEY CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND SIGN UP RIGHT THERE. YES. SO WE WORK WITH CUSTOMERS. WHEN WE WERE DOING THE DEPLOYMENT, CUSTOMER CARE WAS ON THE TEAM WITH US. SO ON THE FLIER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE IS A QR CODE THAT COMMUNICATIONS DEVELOP FOR US. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THEM AT EACH KIOSK OR EACH STAND WHEN THEY COME IN. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUT THEM OUT. WE GAVE THEM TO THEM. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A BANNER THERE ALSO FOR THEM, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SURE TO SAY IF THEY ACTUALLY DEPLOYED THAT PLAN OR NOT. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND I WILL MEET WITH THEM ON TOMORROW TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH. OKAY, OKAY. AND FOR THE NEW ACCOUNTS, THEY CAN TELL THEM ABOUT ALL THE BENEFITS AND ALL OF THAT. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE LEVEL OF PROACTIVE ACTIONS BEING TAKEN AROUND TREE TRIMMING, BECAUSE THAT WAS A HUGE OR STILL REMAINS LIKE ONE OF OUR TOP THREE REASONS FOR OUTAGES OUTSIDE OF ACCIDENTS. AND ANIMALS ON LINES AND THEN STORMS THAT COME AND BREAK AND FREEZE LINES. SO THANK YOU, EJ TEAM AND MR. MANGRUM FOR LEADING THAT AND ENSURING THAT WE ARE BEING AS PROACTIVE AS WE CAN. YOU ALL ARE FREE TO LEAVE. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA. I AM, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE AGENDA TO TRY TO GET STAFF. DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS ON THE SIDEWALK UPDATES? I DON'T SEE I KNOW THAT'S ONE. THAT'S YOUR ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. SO RIGHT NOW, I SAW OUR CHIEF. IS HE STILL HERE? CHIEF? LEFT IS. WHO'S GOING TO GIVE THE UPDATE ON POLICING? MISS JOHNSON? MISS JESSE, WE CAN DO, LIKE REALLY QUICK AND GET. THEN I THINK, OH, THERE'S CHIEF. CHIEF, WE WANT TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE. COME ON. I'M GOING TO GO TO THEM AFTER. I'M TRYING TO GET TWO QUICK THINGS OUT. MISS

[III.7. LIHEAP Utilities Assistance]

JESSE, IF WE CAN HAVE MISS JOHNSON COME UP REALLY QUICKLY, AND I GOT A CALL ABOUT LIHEAP.

AND FORMER REPRESENTATIVE ROGER BRUCE WAS IS WITH COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK. HE'S A BOARD CHAIR INDICATED THERE'S FUNDING. AND I SAID WE'VE SIGNED THIS MOU SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, BUT I THINK IT MAY HAVE EXPIRED OR IS IN THE PROCESS OF EXPIRING. AND SO WE NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL TO RENEW THIS. AND SO IF MISS JOHNSON CAN GIVE US A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT, WE CAN GET HOPEFULLY PUT THIS ON CONSENT, GET TO OUR CHIEF AND THEN WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3234 AND 35 FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ZONING CODE REWRITE. YES, MA'AM. YOLANDA JOHNSON YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE. I'M BEFORE YOU TO ACTUALLY JUST MAKE MENTION OF THE LAHEEB MOU. I WOULD SAY THE CONTRACT THAT THE CITY GETS YEARLY. IT'S THE LOW INCOME ENERGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. HEATING. I MISSED THAT PART. SO THAT'S THE CONTRACT THAT WE ARE. IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A CONTRACT FOR US TO BECOME A VENDOR FOR THE ATLANTA FULTON ACTION AUTHORITY. WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT CONTRACT AND IT'S ACTUALLY IN ROOT FOR SIGNATURE.

NOW WE'RE WAITING. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS NOW OF SENDING OUR RESIDENTS OVER TO FULTON ATLANTA TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONTRACT SIGNED SO THAT THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM THOSE SERVICES. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. WHEN YOU SAY, FULTON, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO APPLY? THEY HAVE TO APPLY WITH FULTON ATLANTA COMMUNITY ACTION AUTHORITY. OKAY. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH I THINK THE PRESIDENT SOMEBODY ON THAT PROGRAM, MR. HOWARD. YES. AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY WERE GOING TO

[02:30:02]

COME MONDAY, BUT THEY CAN'T MAKE IT. BUT I DID TALK TO THEM ABOUT COMING TO THE CITY TO POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING AT THE CITY WHERE SENIORS CAN COME HERE AND SIGN UP. AND HE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LET ME KNOW. SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE AN OPTION AS WELL. OPPOSED TO THEM GOING DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? THAT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE, IT'LL BE MORE CLOSER FOR THEM TO GET HERE. RIGHT? THEY DID. THEY USUALLY HAVE SOME OUTREACH SESSIONS THAT THEY HAVE. THEY WOULD USUALLY LET US KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE OUTREACH SESSIONS, BUT WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONNECT WITH THEM TO DO THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE HE'S SUPPOSED TO GET BACK WITH ME. BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I AM IN CONNECTION WITH HIS STAFF. SO MISS PEARSON, WE TALKED QUITE A BIT, SO WE WILL GET SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THAT BECAUSE I TALKED TO HIM DIRECTLY. WAS IT FRIDAY? OKAY? I BELIEVE IT WAS. YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE OPEN TO THAT.

COUNCILMEMBER DO WE NEED IS THERE. DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT ON THE MOU? NO. WE CAN PUT IT. DO YOU NEED IT NOW I DIDN'T WELL WE DIDN'T INDICATE ON THE AGENDA THAT ACTION MIGHT BE TAKEN. I JUST WANTED TO PUT ON CONSENT AND THEN I CAN SIGN IT. DO WE NEED IT BEFORE THE 21ST? YEAH, WE. WE NEED IT LIKE YESTERDAY. YES, MADAM MAYOR, IF IT PLEASES THE COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE I GOT IT. HOLD ON. I NEED TO ASK LEGAL. SO GENERALLY WHEN WE PUT IT ON, PUT ITEMS ON THE WORK SESSION, WE PUT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN IN PARENTHESES. BUT THIS IS A DULY NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING. SO CAN WE TAKE ACTION. THIS IS NOT AN EXPENDITURE OF ANYTHING. THIS WILL ACTUALLY GET US MONEY IN AND GET RESOURCES TO OUR RESIDENTS. MADAM MAYOR, TO THE EXTENT THAT THE COUNCIL RULES DO NOT SPEAK ON THIS, ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER WOULD ALLOW YOU TO DO A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES. ONCE THAT PASSES, THEN YOU CAN DO A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO ALLOW THIS TO HAVE ACTION TAKEN ON IT. IF THAT PASSES, THEN YOU CAN TAKE ACTION. ALL RIGHT. LET ME TRACK YOU. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. THAT WASN'T SENT. I WAS SAYING CAN I GET A SECOND. NOT SECONDED. SOMEBODY SECONDED. DID YOU HEAR THAT I SECOND OKAY I MADE THE MOTION PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. GETTING A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REFLECT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN ON ITEM NUMBER 20. I MEAN ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. SO MOVED SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIHEAP UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. MOU. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN. ARE YOU IN FOR DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I'LL SIGN THAT TOMORROW OR TONIGHT IF YOU GET IT TO ME.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING, COUNCILMEMBER? NO. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE WAS TALKING ABOUT AN EVENT, AND DOCTOR GRANT ACTUALLY SENT ME A MESSAGE TODAY AND SAID THAT HIS TEAM IS LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING IN EAST POINT, PROBABLY IN FEBRUARY. YES. SO. AND I WOULD JUST SAY IT WOULD BE GOOD WHEN THOSE EVENTS ARE DONE, THAT THEY ACTUALLY BE WE HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS AND NOT JUST AT A LOCATION WHERE ONE EMPLOYEE WORKS, THAT WE ACTUALLY MOVE IT AROUND THE CITY, AT LEAST HAVE MULTIPLE AND MAYBE ONE IN THE EVENING AND ONE ON THE WEEKEND, BUT THAT WE REALLY TRY TO GET OUTREACH VERSUS MAKING IT PERSONAL TO AN INDIVIDUAL. SO I THINK WHAT WHAT WHAT THERE IS THERE THERE IS, IS THE STATE SYSTEM. AND THEY CAN'T GO IN IT ON THE WEEKEND. THAT IS, I BELIEVE, WHAT I WAS TOLD. WELL, THEN, IF NOT ON THE WEEKEND, IF WE CAN JUST GET MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AND I AGREE TO HAVE IT HERE AND ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE I, I, I PUT THAT OPTION OUT THERE. YEAH, YEAH. WE NEED TO DO MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS.

YES. AND I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY IS THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING STUFF IN THE CITY, SO FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS A PRODUCE GIVEAWAY. IF PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMING THERE, THEY'RE PROBABLY ALSO IN NEED OF UTILITY ASSISTANCE. SO WE CAN COUPLE THOSE THINGS TO TAKE BENEFIT OF THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE COMING TO GET PRODUCE AND CAN ALSO SIGN UP FOR LIHEAP. SO I THINK IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING IN THE CITY AND TRY TO PARTNER THAT WAY, I THINK WE CAN GET OUR NUMBERS UP AND THEY DO WANT TO DO APPOINTMENTS. IT HELPS THEM, HOWEVER, IT HELPS THEM A GREAT DEAL IF PEOPLE JUST SIGN UP SO THAT HIS STAFF, HE CAN PROPERLY STAFF IT AND IT'S NOT CHAOS. SO USUALLY WHEN WE DO EVENTS LIKE THAT AND WE'VE HAD TABLET GIVEAWAYS, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE TO SIGN UP AND IT HAS WENT REALLY WELL. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD I CAN'T

[02:35:05]

EVEN COUNT THE SENIORS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM AND SITTING OUT THERE GETTING THE TABLET AND A PHONE FOR FREE. SO IT USUALLY IT IS STAFFED REALLY WELL AND THEY DO CALL IN AND SIGN UP. OKAY, GOOD. WE'RE ALL ON ONE ACCORD. GREAT. SO I'LL SIGN AS SOON AS YOU GET IT TO ME, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS KEEP ARE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. I THINK FORMER REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE SAID IT WAS ABOUT $3 MILLION THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO SEND BACK. SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO THIS WITH ALL DELIBERATE SPEED. THANK YOU FOR BEING ASSISTANT TONIGHT, MISS JOHNSON. CHIEF, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS, I WANT TO GET YOU AND OUR OTHER OFFICERS OUT OF HERE, I.

[III.6. Update on Policing]

THREE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD NIGHT. I'M CHIEF BUCHANAN EVERY YEAR IN JANUARY FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DON'T KNOW, WE DO AN UPDATE ON OUR CRIME STATS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. KIND OF TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO OUR VISION FOR THE AGENCY IS VERY SIMPLE, PROFESSIONAL AGENCY THAT FOSTERS THE PILLARS OF THE 21ST CENTURY POLICING, WELL TRAINED PROFESSIONAL AGENCY. CARLISLE IS A STATE AND NATIONAL CERTIFICATION. IT'S A GOLD STANDARD AND POLICE CERTIFICATIONS. OUR GOAL IS TO BE A CLEAR CERTIFIED AGENCY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. I KIND OF GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER AND ALSO WE WANT TO REDUCE SOME CRIME.

THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE REASON WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO REDUCE CRIME. SO ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES WAS VERY IMPORTANT IS TO INCREASE HIRING OF POLICE OFFICERS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE. WE ARE SLATED FOR 124. WE ONLY HAVE OUR ONE PLACE. WE ONLY HAVE ONE. WE HAVE 114, WHICH IS NORMALLY OUR FULLY STAFFED. THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE THOSE VACANCIES IS BECAUSE THIS YEAR THE POLICE ACADEMY WENT UP TO SIX MONTHS. SO WHEN I HIRE PEOPLE NOW, WE'LL SEE THEM IN 2026. SO I'M TRYING TO GET CERTIFIED OFFICERS. SO WE'RE KIND OF BEING A LITTLE MORE SELECTIVE BECAUSE THE PROCESS OF TRAINING IS SO MUCH LONGER NOW. OKAY. CRIME REDUCTION WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THAT. WE WANT TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS. AND THE BIGGEST THING WE'VE RESTRUCTURED OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE RESTRUCTURE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE WERE TOP HEAVY. WE HAD TOO MANY MAJORS, TOO MANY CAPTAINS AND TOO MANY PEOPLE WITH HIGH RANK. SO WE KIND OF ELIMINATED THAT JUST THROUGH ATTRITION. ALSO, WE PROMOTED MORE SERGEANTS, WHICH ARE FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS. THE NUMBER ONE LAWSUIT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS FAILURE TO TRAIN, FAILURE TO SUPERVISE. SO WE NEED OUR FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS. WE DON'T NEED THESE PEOPLE AT THE TOP LIKE ME. WE NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. SO WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE REDUNDANCY, QUALITY TRAINING. THE BIGGEST THING WE DID WAS WE JUST WENT TO FINALLY TEN HOUR SHIFTS, WHICH ALLOWS OFFICERS TO WORK FOUR DAYS OFF. THREE AND THAT IS HUGE. THE REASON THAT'S HUGE IS BECAUSE MOST AGENCIES ARE ON 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND THEY HAVE MORE OFF TIME. I DON'T LIKE 12 HOURS. THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDIES THAT SHOW 12 HOURS IS REALLY BAD FOR THE BODY, ESPECIALLY THE OVERNIGHT SHIFT. ALSO, THE BENEFIT OF GOING TO TEN HOUR SHIFTS IS THREE TIMES A DAY. YOU HAVE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF POLICE OFFICERS AT WORK, SO THREE TIMES A DAY THEY DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS, WHICH GIVES US MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO, YOU KNOW, SOLVE CRIMES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. AND SO EQUIPMENT THANKS TO YOU ALL. AND CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR COUNCIL, WE GOT MOST OF ALL OUR EQUIPMENT. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT SALARIES. THAT'S MOSTLY DONE. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH OUR RAISES AND I KNOW WE HAVE A PAY STUDY. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN TAKE IT OFF THE SLIDE SHOW BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. YEAH. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SLIDE SHOW THERE. LET ME FINISH THE SLIDE SHOWING YOU. YEAH. HIT ESCAPE. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. AND THEN JUST KIND OF GO BACK.

[02:40:10]

GO BACK TO THE FOURTH SLIDE OKAY. SO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO MOST OF THE EQUIPMENT IS DONE. SALARIES. THE BIGGEST THING YOU ALL HAVE DONE AND IT'S HUGE IS JUST TO TAKE HOME CARS.

THAT IS JUST SO SIGNIFICANT IN OUR RETENTION PROGRAM. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO HAVE TEN HOUR SHIFTS BECAUSE IF WE HAD TO SHARE CARS, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A TEN HOUR SHIFT. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH. OKAY, SO SOME OF YOU ALL COUNCIL WASN'T HERE. SO I JUST HAD TO REPEAT THAT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE STARTED. DECEMBER 6TH, 2021, WE ONLY HAD 63 OFFICERS. BY 2024, WE HAD 110. BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE HAVE 114 OFFICERS.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ONLY HOLDING THOSE SPOTS BECAUSE WE WANT TO HIRE CERTIFIED OFFICERS.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. GO AHEAD. SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS INCREASE OUR SOCIAL PLATFORM THROUGH POLICING. SO WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF FACEBOOK SUBSCRIBERS AND INSTAGRAM SUBSCRIBERS BECAUSE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE COMMUNICATE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. SO WE PROMOTE POSITIVITY. WE DO A LOT OF SKITS WITH TRICYCLE HIGH SCHOOL. WE WANT YOU TO MEET OUR NEW OFFICERS, WE HIGHLIGHT EVENTS AND WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CHANGE THE IMAGE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THESE CRIME STATS IN 2022, WE HAD 28 HOMICIDES THAT WE CHARGED. WE FINALLY GOT 25 OF THOSE 28 HOMICIDES LAST YEAR OR 2023. WE HAD EIGHT HOMICIDES. IF YOU GO DOWN, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT YOU TO NOTICE IS THEFT OF VEHICLES WAS 777 LAST YEAR, AND THE THEFT VEHICLE WAS 1200.

THAT'S A LOT OF CAR BREAK-INS, BUT THAT IS TRULY IN THE METRO AREA ON PAR, WHICH IS HORRIBLE.

SO ONE THING WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON WITH THAT PARTICULAR CRIME, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU GOT TO HAVE OFFICERS EVERYWHERE HIT THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THE BIGGEST DECREASE WE'VE HAD WAS THOSE THEFTS OF VEHICLES. WE HAD A DECREASE OF 43%, 337 LESS PEOPLE GOT THEIR CAR STOLEN IN THE CITY. THAT IS HUGE. AND THAT IS ONE THING WE REALLY FOCUSED ON IS LET'S STOP THESE GUYS, LET'S CATCH THESE CRIMINALS, AND LET'S PUT POLICE OFFICERS WAITING TO BE THE THEFTS FROM VEHICLES DROPPED BY 542, 542 PEOPLE LESS GOT THEIR CARS BROKEN INTO. THAT IS HUGE. I CAN'T STRESS HOW MUCH WORK WE DID TO TRY TO DECREASE THAT NUMBER. OUR ROBBERIES GO. YEAH.

GO BACK UP. OUR ROBBERIES INCREASED BY 20%. WE HAD 74 OR 70 AND WENT UP TO 94. WE DECREASED OUR BURGLARIES BY 3.5%, OUR AGGRAVATED AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS BY 21%. NOW, HERE'S THE SITUATION WITH OUR HOMICIDES. I'VE SEEN ALL OF YOU ALL AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY. I'M PRETTY SURE MOST OF YOU ALL GOT THE EMAIL. OUR HOMICIDES WENT UP TO 18 HOMICIDES. WE SAW 17 OUT OF 18. THAT'S 94% CLEARANCE RATE. MOST OF OUR HOMICIDES WITH KNOWN SUSPECTS AND VICTIMS. WE HAD TWO COUSINS SHOOT EACH OTHER. WE HAD AN UNCLE AND NEPHEW GET INTO A FIGHT. THE NEPHEW KILLED THE UNCLE. WE HAD A GIRLFRIEND SET UP THE BOYFRIEND. ALL TYPE OF THESE TYPE OF HOMICIDES. WE HAD TWO STRANGERS TO STRANGERS. SO WE SAW THE STRANGER, STRANGER. HOMICIDE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO KEEP FOCUSING ON JUST WORKING ON COMMUNITY. BECAUSE MOST OF THESE HOMICIDES ARE COMMITTED BY YOUNG PEOPLE. WE JUST GOT TO KEEP WORKING ON OUR YOUTH TO LET THEM KNOW WE GOTTA HAVE BETTER DECISION MAKING. THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO THE BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS, LIKE I SAID, AT 95%, 94% HOMICIDE CLEARANCE RATE IS HUGE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR IS OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER UP AND RUNNING. FINALLY, THANK GOD IT HAS ASSISTED IN SO MANY MAJOR CRIMES. WE HAVE SO MANY ACCIDENTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISPUTES ABOUT WHOSE FAULT IT IS. THE OFFICERS HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ON THEIR PHONE. NOW THEY CAN PULL UP A CAMERA, GO BACK, ACTUALLY SEE THE ACCIDENT.

AND THAT HAS JUST IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLE. THAT REAL TIME CRIME CENTER HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE. OVER 200 CITY WIDE CAMERAS OVERALL CRIME REDUCTION, ESPECIALLY IN OUR TWO MOST IMPORTANT AREAS, WHICH IS CAR BREAK-INS AND CAR THEFTS. JUST THAT'S HUGE. ALMOST A 50% REDUCTION. SCHOOL CAMERAS.

BY THE END OF THE MONTH. OUR STATE CERTIFICATION, WE'RE A STATE CERTIFIED AGENCY EVERY THREE YEARS. THEY COME EVERY FOUR YEARS. THIS IS ONE OF FOUR YEARS IN 2024. WE PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS. PROBABLY HAD THE HIGHEST SCORE WE EVER HAD. SO I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THAT. WE PASSED THE STATE AUDIT. THANK GOD WE PASSED THAT. BUT BUT FOR INTEGRATION, IT FINALLY GOT US TAKEN CARE WITH THAT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS SUMMER, I MEAN, THIS

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CHRISTMAS AREA WAS NOT HAVING ANY CRIME IN OUR SHOPPING AREAS. SO CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE, NOT ONE INCIDENT AND WE STAFFED IT PRETTY HEAVILY. AND I WAS VERY PROUD THAT WE HAD NO INCIDENTS AT THE MARKETPLACE AND NONE OF OUR SHOPPING AREAS FROM BLACK FRIDAY TO JANUARY 1ST. SO THAT WAS VERY HUGE TO ME. AND WE ALSO MADE A LOT OF GOOD ARRESTS. SO THINGS TO COME. LIKE I SAID, WE WANT TO BE A STATE CERTIFIED AGENCY THANKS TO YOU ALL APPROVAL. WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR STATE OF THE ART EVIDENCE ROOM FOR THE CALEA. WE OWN IT FROM NOW ON. CONSOLES. IT'S GOING TO HELP US WITH OUR 911 CENTER. WE OWN A DRONE SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO HELP RESPOND TO CALLS. THAT'S VERY FUTURISTIC, BUT IS VERY BENEFICIAL. WE HAVE ONE CANINE. IT JUST RETIRED. WE'RE GOING TO GET TWO CANINES. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START OUR STATE CERTIFICATION PROCESS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION WITH THE POWERPOINT. BUT YES, WE ARE.

HERE WE ARE. AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED THIS LAST YEAR. THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH, CHIEF, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN RIGHT NOW, BUT THE WAY YOU HAVE LED OUR DEPARTMENT THROUGH SOME VERY CHALLENGING TIMES AND REALLY COME OUT WITH A DEPARTMENT THAT IS PROTECTING AND SERVING, BUT ALSO THINKING OF THE FORWARD LIKE FUTURE WAYS TO PREVENT CRIME AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT MAKE US COMPETITIVE, BUT ALSO HELP ENSURE THE SAFETY. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP OF THE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE WHO PROTECT AND SERVE US EVERY DAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU MENTIONED ONE THING, AND I DID. I, I DON'T THINK I WROTE IT DOWN. I MEAN, I PROBABLY WON'T REMEMBER IT. SO I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO AROUND AND MAYBE I'LL COME BACK TO ME. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, MARTIN ROGERS AND ATKINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WELLSTAR HAS CLOSED. THE THING IS, IS THAT THERE IS NOW AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THAT WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO DRIVE INTO WELLSTAR, IT'S VERY, VERY LOUD. IT TELLS PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE TRESPASSING, THAT THEY NEED TO LEAVE THE PREMISES. BUT IT'S SO LOUD THAT THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET CAN HEAR IT. AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT'S ACROSS CLEVELAND. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE INTO THE NEXT HOUSES AND STUFF. SO I THINK THAT THAT I'D SEND AN EMAIL A WHILE BACK. BUT IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I OF COURSE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO LOUD I COULD REACH OUT? I KNOW THAT OUR SECURITY. SO I'LL REACH OUT TO THEM PERSONALLY. OKAY, GREAT.

AND ALSO MAYBE LIKE A PHYSICAL BARRIER TOO, THAT WOULD PREVENT PEOPLE FROM EVEN DRIVING UP THAT WAY. SO THEN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALSO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THAT THAT ANNOUNCEMENT WOULD BLARE AS WELL. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. AND THERE IS AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT IN JEFFERSON PARK WHERE A NEIGHBOR WAS MAULED BY A DOG. SO I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY CALLED 911, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME DELAY IN THE ACTUAL DISPATCH, SO I CAN KIND OF GO OVER THAT. IT WASN'T A DELAY. AND ACTUALLY DISPATCH. WHAT HAPPENED IS WE GOT THERE PRETTY QUICK. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOT THERE PRETTY QUICK. THE AMBULANCE TOOK ABOUT 45 MINUTES. AND THE ISSUE, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE CHASING BOTH OF THOSE DOGS A MAJORITY OF THAT DAY BECAUSE WE GOT MULTIPLE CALLS ON THEM. AND THE ISSUE IS WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS. WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS. GRADY IS THE MAIN PROVIDER OF AMBULANCES FOR FULTON COUNTY.

AND THAT'S THE ISSUE, BECAUSE THAT PERSON SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE HOSPITAL A LONG TIME AGO.

HOWEVER, IT TOOK 45 MINUTES FOR THE AMBULANCE TO SHOW UP, AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE NOW.

AND ACTUALLY, WE HAD TO SHOOT AND KILL ONE OF THOSE DOGS, AS YOU KNOW. AND WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, KILL ANYTHING. BUT FOR THE LADY SAFETY, WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO KILL THAT DOG. AND IT TOOK EVEN A LONG TIME FOR ANIMAL CONTROL TO ARRIVE FOR THE OTHER DOG. AND THE SAVING GRACE IS NOT IN THIS SITUATION IS. I'M MEETING WITH THE ANIMAL. FULTON COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL DIRECTOR NEXT WEEK. BECAUSE HE REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TAX ON THE DOG. SO I HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. OKAY. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT OFFLINE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THE ACTUAL DISPATCH AS WELL AND TRYING TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE NUMBER ONE CALLER, YOU KNOW, TELL THE DISPATCHER WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, GET RELAYED OUT, OKAY. AND SO SPEAKING ABOUT 911, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET A NEW 911 SYSTEM THAT

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WOULD ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, TEXT MESSAGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO WE UPGRADING OUR SYSTEM THROUGH CENTRAL SQUARE AND WE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE THINGS. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING DONE RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING IT. THAT'S ONCE WE GET THAT SYSTEM UPDATED ACCORDING TO THEM, THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT'S ON THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT. I WANT A QUALITY ASSURANCE. IF YOU CALL, I MEAN, YOU HENRY COUNTY, BECAUSE I HAD TO CALL HENRY COUNTY POLICE FOR SOMETHING. AND I GOT A CALL BACK SAYING, HOW WAS THE SERVICE? AND IT WAS LIKE A TEXT. AND YOU CAN LIKE A SURVEY. I WANT THAT FOR OUR NUMBER ONE CENTER. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE A QUALITY ASSURANCE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE DOING IT. SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS OKAY. AND I HAVEN'T HEARD AN UPDATE ABOUT A SOCIAL WORKER IN A WHILE. IS THAT ON THE TABLE STILL. SO YES. MATTER OF FACT WE DID MEET WITH GEORGIA STATE. THEY HAVE INTERNS THAT WILL HELP US OUT. NOW I WILL TELL YOU, YOU, LYNDON JOHNSON JUST LEFT, BUT SHE HAS COME OUT TO A LOT OF OUR CALLS AND ASSISTS AS WELL. I MEAN, THE OFFICERS KNOW HER PHONE NUMBER AND SHE HAS BEEN ASSISTING US IN THAT AREA TREMENDOUSLY. OKAY, GREAT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING THE STOPLIGHT AT OAKLEY AND SYLVAN. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALSO PASSING, GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION ON SYLVAN AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THAT AREA. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT AREA SAFER? YES. WE CAN ENFORCE IT BETTER. I'M GLAD YOU TOLD ME SO. NOW WE MAKE SURE.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. OKAY. THANKS. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW INCIDENTS WITH HOUSE FIRES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SEEKING SHELTER AND ESPECIALLY WITH IT BEING COLD. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THAT WE DO AS FAR AS LIKE GOING TO ABANDONED HOUSES AND LIKE ENSURING THAT THEY'RE STILL SECURE. SO YES OR NO. YES. WE DO CHECK ABANDONED HOUSES. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY WE'VE CHECKED LATELY, BUT WHAT NORMALLY HAPPENS, WE GET A COMPLAINT AND WE GO AND MAKE SURE NO ONE'S INSIDE. OR IF WE SEE SOMEBODY INSIDE, WE MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. SO WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO OCCUR? AND I SAY THIS, WE PLACARD THE HOUSE, AND ONCE WE PLACARD THE HOUSE, THE PERSON GOES TO JAIL. IF THEY'RE INSIDE THE HOUSE, INSIDE THE RESIDENCE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, CHIEF, SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. NUMBER TWO, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE POLICE PRESENCE THAT I HAVE BEEN SEEING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT THEY WERE FOLLOWING ME, BUT THEY WERE JUST PATROLLING THE CITY. MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WAS THE YOU TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT WITH YOLANDA. OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION PERSONNEL COMING OUT, BUT IS THERE, I GUESS, A PLAN FOR US TO TAP INTO THOSE STUDENTS? I THINK THAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED AT GEORGIA STATE, RIGHT. COMING OUT AS WELL, ASSISTING WITH THAT MENTAL HEALTH PIECE. SO, YES, WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM MET, AND THAT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO DO. THEY DO INTERNSHIPS FOR THE MASTER'S DEGREE STUDENTS. WE'RE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE USE THEM, WE UTILIZE THEM THE CORRECT WAY BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG RESOURCE FOR US. SO WE'RE WORKING SOME THINGS OUT, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO DO THAT. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR SUGGESTING THAT, OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS AND I'M GOING TO WRAP UP, IS THE SUBSTATION ON CAMP CREEK. IS THAT HOUSED YET? YES AND NO.

I KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF YES NO ANSWERS. SO YES IT IS. HOWEVER WE JUST PURCHASED FURNITURE FOR IT. SO WE'RE CLEANING EVERYTHING OUT AND WE FURNISHING IT. SO IT'LL BE PROBABLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I GUESS YOU DID TOUCH ON THE SALARY STUDY, BUT I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE SALARY STUDY UPDATE, BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST FOR POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. DO YOU HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION OR INSIGHT YOU COULD GIVE US ON THAT? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. THE SALARY STUDY PHASE TWO. WE'VE COMPLETED THE SUPERVISORY AND DEPARTMENTAL HEADS REVIEW AND WE'RE WORKING. WAITING TO GET BACK WITH OUR CONSULTANTS AFTER THE HOLIDAYS ON THE NEXT STEPS. BUT IT'S MOVING ALONG. OKAY. WELL, WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION AT THE FEBRUARY WORK SESSION, OR WE CAN HAVE AN UPDATE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. YES, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. HAVE A QUESTION

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FOR YOU. THIS IS REALLY MOSTLY AROUND COMMUNICATIONS. AND SO AS IT RELATES TO GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, I KNOW THAT YOU REPORTED 18 HOMICIDES FOR THE YEAR OF 2024.

YES. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO 2023? 2023? WAS 20 2022 WAS 28 HOMICIDES, 2023 WE DROPPED DOWN TO 6 OR 8 HOMICIDES. SO THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE JUMP. HOWEVER, WE HAVE ONLY TWO STRANGER TO STRANGER. SO WHEN IT COMES TO HOMICIDES, I KIND OF WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT. THAT'S WHY I WAS SITTING THE LADDER OUT, BECAUSE WHAT CONCERNS ME, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING KILLED. NOBODY.

BUT WHAT CONCERNS ME IS WHEN WE HAVE STRANGER TO STRANGER HOMICIDES, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THREATS TO THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE HOMICIDES, WE HAD MULTIPLE HOMICIDES. THAT WAS FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LIVED TOGETHER. I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TWO COUSINS CAN GET INTO AN ARGUMENT AND KILL SOMEBODY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE UNCLE AND THE NEPHEW GOT IN AN ARGUMENT AND THE NEPHEW KILLED THE UNCLE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE GIRLFRIEND HAD HER BROTHER KILL HER CHILD'S FATHER, BUT THOSE WERE THE TYPE OF HOMICIDES WE HAD IF YOU LOOKED AT THEM. SO IT'S A BIG INCREASE. BUT IT'S IN TERMS OF STRANGER TO STRANGER. IT WAS ACTUALLY A DECREASE. SO ALL THESE HOMICIDES WERE PEOPLE WHO KNEW EACH OTHER VERY WELL. AND THAT WAS JUST WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING. OKAY. SO FOR LEVEL ONE, WE HAD AN INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. LEVEL ONE CRIME AS IT RELATES TO HOMICIDES, INCREASE FOR HOMICIDES. YES, YES. SO ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS, MOST OF THE OTHER AREAS, I THINK THERE WAS ONE THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASE, BUT THEY WERE HUGE DECREASES. YES. AND SO HOW DO WE TELL THAT STORY? BECAUSE I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION WAS I DO APOLOGIZE. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, ALL OUR CRIME STATS EVERY MONTH ARE UPLOADED AND THE YEARLY ONE WAS JUST UPLOADED. SO IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. SO ALL A LOT OF THE CITIZENS KNOW ABOUT IT ALREADY, BUT IT'S ON THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE WEBSITE. AND ONCE THEY GO TO OUR CRIME STAT AREA, IT SPECIFICALLY SHOWS THEM ALL OUR MAJOR CRIME SITES. AND THAT'S ALSO UPLOADED ON A MONTHLY BASIS AS WELL. OKAY, BECAUSE I HAD GONE TO THE WEBSITE TO LOOK FOR SOME THINGS AND IT WAS NOT UPDATED, BUT THIS WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS NEWLY UPDATED, BUT AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT ALSO IS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE USE SOCIAL MEDIA, AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MEMES OUT THERE ABOUT EASTPOINTE AND ABOUT HOW CRIME RIDDEN THE CITY IS, BUT THERE SEEMS THAT WE ARE MAKING A LOT OF GAINS AND A LOT OF THESE AREAS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING COMMUNICATION WISE, HOW DO WE TELL THAT STORY? SO NOT ONLY ON THE WEBSITE, BUT THE USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE I ALSO THINK THAT IT HAS AN IMPACT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO WHAT I CAN DO IS WE CAN DO SOMETHING ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT'S JANUARY, SO WE ALWAYS DO IT ANYWAY. SO BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE'LL PUT UP OUR CRIME STATS AND KIND OF EXPLAIN THE DECREASES THAT WE HAVE.

ALSO, WE'LL GIVE ALTERATIONS TO THE WEBSITE, BUT WE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UPDATED ON A MONTHLY BASIS. WE DO SEND THE CRIME STATS OUT ON A MONTHLY BASIS FOR IT TO BE UPDATED. SO I'M GLAD YOU TOLD ME THAT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE I LEAVE TODAY TO MAKE SURE. IF NOT, I GET WITH THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT PLEASE. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. I THINK THAT'S IT. YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALL THAT. YOU AND THE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE DO TO PROTECT AND SERVE US. WE GREATLY

[IV.32. Ordinance Granting a Use Permit For Warehouse to be Developed at 0 Welcome All Road In the I-1 (Light Industrial) Zoning District PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED]

APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR SUPPORTING US. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 32. MISS JESSIE, IF YOU CAN HAVE STAFF COME UP. STAFF AND THEN THE APPLICANT, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, STAFF FROM THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WILL COME UP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MISS JESSIE. KIMBERLY SMITH, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER 32 ON THE AGENDA. PROPERTIES LOCATED AT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ZERO WALKER MALL ROAD. IT'S KNOWN AS CASE NUMBER P2024, U-001-10. THE CASE TYPE IS A USE PERMIT. THE APPLICANT IS GREYSTAR. MR. JOHN HOBART. THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS OUR I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE PERMIT TO DEVELOP 21.04 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES FOR TWO WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION CENTER BUILDINGS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 219,000FT■!S IN AREA. AND AGAIN, THE PROPERTY HAS AI1 ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION, WHICH IS

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OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. ON THIS SLIDE, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AND GIVE TRANSPARENCY TO EXACTLY WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED. IF YOU SEE THE WRITING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, IT SAYS MICROSOFT DATA CENTER. THAT IS THE MICROSOFT DATA CENTER. IF YOU GO NORTH TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THE SITE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED WITH THE STAR. THAT'S THE SITE THERE, APPROXIMATELY 21 ACRES. WHAT WE SEE WITH ALL OF THE GREEN CIRCLES, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE VICINITY. AND WHAT YOU SEE WITH THE, THE WHITE RECTANGLES ARE ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING TYPE OF FACILITIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE IN THIS AREA. WE JUST WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE RESIDENCES AS WELL AS THE WAREHOUSING AND INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE ZONING.

THIS IS OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT'S LOCATED IN THE INDUSTRIAL SUBAREA TWO, WHICH PROVIDES FOR INDUSTRIAL AND BUSINESS PARK TYPE OF USES. BUT SPECIFICALLY AFTER WE HAD IT A ZONING UPDATE IN 2020, THE INTENT OF THESE AREAS CHANGE QUITE A BIT BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF RESIDENCES WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OUR INDUSTRIAL USES. SO THE INTENT OF THE SUBAREA TWO IS NOT IS TO REIMAGINE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL, REIMAGINE THEM TO RE ADAPTIVE USES, NOT NECESSARILY WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION. STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THIS USE PERMIT WHEN THE WHEN THE ZONING WAS WHEN THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS REVISED BACK IN 2020 TO ADD TWO MORE ZONING DISTRICTS, ONE OF THEM BEING WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND THE SECOND ZONING NEW ZONING DISTRICT WAS IMEX SCI, WHICH IS A MIXED USE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE INTENT OF THAT ONE WAS TO ACT AS A BUFFER, IN MOST CASES TO ALLOW FOR A USE THAT WOULD ACT AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL USES AND THE INDUSTRIAL USES. WHAT WE SEE HERE AND WHAT STAFF HAD AN ISSUE WITH, IS THE POTENTIAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IMPACTS. SEEING THAT CITY OF EASTPOINT DOES HAVE ITS FAIR SHARE OF INDUSTRIAL. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ADD TO IT, AND WE THINK THAT BASED ON HOW THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS SET UP, IT'S WORKING AND DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. THE ORDINANCE PRIOR TO US CHANGING IT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FOR THE WAREHOUSE USE TO OCCUPY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONAL REVIEWS. AFTER THE REWRITE, THE USE PERMIT PROCESS WAS PUT IN. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TAKE A ADDITIONAL LOOK AT ANY TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL USE THAT COMES THROUGH THE CITY, AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS, NEEDS AND COULD SUPPORT. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, AFTER DOING THE REVIEW, STAFF DID RECOMMEND DENIAL. WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHAT THE USE IS SPECIFICALLY GOING TO BE, WHICH IS THE INTENT OF THE USE PERMIT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IS GOING TO GO IN THERE, JUST THAT IT'S WAREHOUSE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE NATURE OF IT. SO WE HAD A DEEP CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AND JUST THE OTHER TYPE OF THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH WAREHOUSE IS THE LIGHTING POTENTIAL NOISE THAT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION NOISE, TRACTOR TRAILER TRAFFIC. WE'RE UNSURE ABOUT HOW MANY ADDITIONAL TRACTOR TRAILERS WILL BE RUNNING THE ROADS IN THAT AREA. AND YOU SAW THAT IT'S THERE ARE MANY, MANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THAT PARTICULAR

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AREA. WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WATER AND AIR QUALITY AS WELL. WE ALSO HAD A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED LOT COVERAGE OF JUST THE BULK OF THE TWO PROPOSED BUILDINGS, TAKING UP OVER 70% OF THE SITE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR INDUSTRIAL USES FOR MAXIMUM PROPERTY COVERAGE IS 70%, AND IT APPEARED THAT IT WAS WELL OVER 70. SO WE JUST HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS AND ISSUES.

STAFF DID RECOMMEND DENIAL AS STATED IN PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORTED THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I SEE THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF. MY NAME IS MARVIN ARRINGTON JR. I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, GREYSTAR, AND I AM WEARING MY ATTORNEY HAT TODAY, NOT MY COMMISSIONER HAT. SO. BUT IN SERVING AS COMMISSIONER, I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS WAREHOUSE ISSUE BEFORE. AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE, JUST AS YOU ALL HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT BEFORE. ONE OF OUR SISTER CITIES BUILT A WAREHOUSE DIRECTLY BEHIND A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A ZERO FOOT BUFFER, NOT A TEN FOOT BUFFER, NOT A 50 OR 100 FOOT BUFFER, BUT A ZERO FOOT BUFFER. AND SO WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE BACKLASH OF THAT ZERO FOOT BUFFER. AND IT WAS EVEN MORE EGREGIOUS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DID NOT. THEY LIVED IN ANOTHER CITY. AND SO THE CITY THAT PASSED IT, THEY NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT AS YOU'LL SEE FROM THE MAP, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT NEAR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER WAREHOUSES.

SO THAT BUFFER THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT MIGHT MAKE SENSE IF THIS PROPERTY WAS IN BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THIS PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT IS THE MICROSOFT DATA CENTER, AS YOU SEE ON THE MAP. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME COPIES. IF YOU ALL DON'T HAVE.

WE'VE GOT SOME COPIES THAT WE CAN GIVE TO THE CLERK TO GIVE OUT. FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND THEN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IS ANOTHER WAREHOUSE. SO A BUFFER BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ISN'T NEEDED BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED, COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY OTHER IN WAREHOUSES. AND IN FACT, IT'S 2000FT TO THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT THESE WAREHOUSES ARE SMALL. THE AVERAGE WAREHOUSE THAT WE SEE IN EAST POINT, 500 600,000FT■!S. OE OF THESE WAREHOUSES IS 85,000FT■!S, AND THE OTHER IS 130,000FT■!S. SO BECAUSE OF THE REDUCED SIZE OF THE WAREHOUSE, IT ALSO REDUCES THE TRAFFIC. IT ALSO REDUCES THE IMPACT. AND I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JOHN SO HE CAN TELL YOU MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT I DID JUST WANT TO NOTE A FEW THINGS FROM THE STAFF ANALYSIS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THE STAFF ANALYSIS STATES THAT THE APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAVE A ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF I-1 AND ARE CONSISTENT WITH USE AS INDUSTRIAL. THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH LAND USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE VICINITY. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL STATUTES. THE PROPOSED USE CAN OPERATE WITHOUT ANY NEGATIVE EFFECT ON TRAFFIC

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FLOW. VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN, AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION AND NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THERE'S NO PROTECTIVE SCREENING NEEDED TO AMELIORATE ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DEPICTS ADEQUATE INGRESS AND EGRESS ONTO THE PROPERTY, WITH FOUR PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS. NO ODOR OR DUST WILL BE PRODUCED OUTSIDE OF NORMAL DAILY ACTIVITIES, AND THE SIZE AND LOCATION OF THE SITE FOR THE PROPOSED USE AND THE PROJECTED PROJECTED NUMBER OF ATTENDEES IS ADEQUATE. SO I KNOW THAT WAREHOUSE ISSUES ARE TOUGH. I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT WAREHOUSES. YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU, THOUGH, IS I GUESS I'M PART OF THE PROBLEM BECAUSE EVEN IF I DON'T LIKE WAREHOUSES, I LOVE ORDERING MY AMAZON AND HAVING IT ARRIVE THE NEXT MORNING. ITEMS ON AMAZON.

SO TO SOME EXTENT IT HAS BECOME A NECESSITY OF OUR THE WAY WE LIVE TODAY, RIGHT? BUT AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES INSIDE OF AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, THE SOUTH MEADOW PARK, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE SOUTH MEADOW DECLARATION OF PROTECTIVE COVENANTS, WHICH GOVERNS THE FURTHER USE AND THIS IS AT THE END OF A DEAD END STREET, SO THERE IS NO OTHER PRACTICAL USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. THERE SIMPLY IS NO OTHER PRACTICAL USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND I WILL STOP THERE AND LET JOHN TALK MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC BENEFITS OF THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. THANK YOU, MR. HARRINGTON, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MARVIN, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE START. MARVIN, HIT ON A LOT OF THE HIGH POINTS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW MORE COMMENTS. I THINK THE FIRST ITEM LISTED ON STAFF'S REASONS FOR DENIAL, WHICH WHICH TONIGHT IS THE FIRST TIME I SAW THAT PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS JUST NO REASONS LISTED FOR DENIAL. BUT THE FIRST ITEM WAS WAS TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND STRAIGHT FROM STAFF'S REPORT WAS THE. THE PROPOSED USE CAN OPERATE WITHOUT ANY NEGATIVE EFFECT ON TRAFFIC FLOW OF VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN. ANOTHER ITEM FROM THAT REPORT.

INDUSTRIAL AREAS ARE MAJOR EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC PROVIDERS FOR THE CITY, AND OUR PROJECT AND SITE PLAN ARE CONSISTENT AND IN CONFORMITY WITH THE 2022 EASTPOINT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS FROM THE REPORT. A FEW OTHER BENEFITS OF THE PROPERTY LISTED HERE. THIS. THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY GENERATES ABOUT $9,000 A YEAR FOR THE CITY. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF THE AIRPORT WAS CITED TIES INTO THE CITY, BUT. BUT 6450 TO EASTPOINT AND 2480 TO AIRPORT WEST. WE'RE PROJECTING $240,000 IN ANNUAL TAXES, OF WHICH ABOUT 100,000 WOULD GO TO CITY OF EASTPOINT. CURRENTLY, NO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ON THIS VACANT LAND. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE PROJECTING UP TO 200 WELL-PAYING JOBS. AND I'LL COMMENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THE SPECIFIC TYPES OF TENANTS WE'RE TARGETING. AND THEN SALES TAX GENERATION, JUST, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVE OF TRAFFIC TO THE AREA WITH THE EMPLOYEES, GENERATING SALES TAX TO THE NEARBY BUSINESSES. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO HERE. WHAT WE ARE TARGETING IS TENANTS IN THE SIZE RANGE OF 20 TO 40 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET. WHEN YOU SEE THOSE BIG MONSTER WAREHOUSES IN THE AREA, THOSE ARE 300 TO 600,000 SQUARE FOOT TYPE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES. THOSE ARE THE FACILITIES THAT ARE GENERATING SIGNIFICANT TRUCK ACTIVITY. SO OUR BUSINESSES IN THE AREA TO THE ONE WE'RE TARGETING, JUST SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC. I'VE LISTED A COUPLE BUSINESSES IN SOUTH ATLANTA AREA THAT HAVE SIGNED LEASES OVER THE PAST 12 TO 18 MONTHS. GRADY HEALTH JUST SIGNED A LEASE LAST MONTH FOR STORAGE OF MEDICAL DOCUMENTS AND FILES. THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY TRUCK TRAFFIC OR PROFESSIONAL AVIATION ASSOCIATES. LIGHT ASSEMBLY OF AVIATION EQUIPMENT MULTIWAY ROBOTICS ASSEMBLY, RESEARCH AND STORAGE OF HIGH END FORKLIFT VEHICLES AND VOLVO HIGH END TRAINING FACILITY FOR SERVICE TECHS. SO IF YOU IF YOU LOOK ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE AT YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE TYPE OF FACILITIES LOOK LIKE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

THIS THESE ARE IMAGES FROM EARLY LAST WEEK AS I DROVE AROUND THE CITY OF EASTPOINT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE REALLY AREN'T DISTRIBUTION CENTERS AS MUCH AS THEY ARE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. IF YOU SEE THE TOP MIDDLE PICTURE THERE OF ALL THE PEOPLE COMING TO WORK AT AT THAT FACILITY

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THERE, AND THEN THE PICTURE BELOW IT IS THEIR TRUCK COURT WHERE THERE'S NOT A SINGLE TRUCK IN THERE. AND ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE THREE DIFFERENT WAREHOUSES WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINT THAT TARGET THESE 20 TO 40 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT TENANTS LIKE WE ARE THAT SIMPLY JUST DON'T GENERATE TRAFFIC IN THEIR TRUCK COURTS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE THERE FOR A REASON. THEY THEY NEED WAREHOUSE SPACE FOR A REASON. SO TRUCKS ARE VISITING, YOU KNOW, 1 TO 2 TIMES A DAY, BUT IT'S NOT A CONSTANT IN AND OUT. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. JUST A FURTHER COMMENT ON MARVIN. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS 200 ZERO FOOT RADIUS HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THERE'S NOT ONE RESIDENCE IN THAT IN THAT RADIUS. AND FURTHER, WE WOULD NOT BE THE CLOSEST WAREHOUSE TO ANY RESIDENCE, YOU KNOW, TO THE SOUTHEAST, YOU'VE GOT THE DATA CENTER TO THE SOUTH, YOU'VE GOT OTHER WAREHOUSES TO THE NORTHWEST. EVERY DIRECTION THERE'S WAREHOUSES THAT WOULD BE CLOSER TO RESIDENTS THAN WE WOULD BE. AND AGAIN, JUST ON SOUTH SOUTH EAST PARKWAY, SPECIFICALLY, IT'S A DEAD END ROAD WITH ONLY INDUSTRIAL ON IT. THERE'S NOT A SITE IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA OR THE SOUTHEAST THAT IS ON AN INDUSTRIAL PARK ROAD SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL USES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING ELSE. THE ONLY TIME I CAN THINK OF IN MY 15 YEARS OF. INDUSTRIAL EXPERIENCE, WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING OTHER THAN A WAREHOUSE, IT'S DEVELOPED INTO TRAILER PARKING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SOMEBODY SLAMMING 200 TRAILERS ON HERE AND CONSTANT. YEAH, IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE Y'ALL WOULDN'T ALLOW IT. BUT BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S MY COMPANY. GREYSTAR IS ACTUALLY THE LARGEST DEVELOPER OF HOUSING AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN THE COUNTRY. NO TYPE OF HOUSING WOULD EVER GO ON HERE. IT'S SURROUNDED BY WAREHOUSES. YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT YOUR HOUSE IN A ON A DEAD END INDUSTRIAL PARK ROAD. AND THEN NOT TO MENTION ANY SORT OF RETAIL TYPE USE THAT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, DRIVERS TO BE PASSING BY. YOU KNOW, YOU SEE ALL THOSE 15,000 VEHICLES PER DAY PASSING BY HERE, BUT NO VEHICLES PASSED BY THIS SITE ON A DAILY BASIS, EXCEPT FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO ONE OF THE WAREHOUSES ON THE STREET. I THINK I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, RESERVE MY RIGHT TO RESPOND OR REBUT ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE. BUT JUST TO REEMPHASIZE, I THINK THAT THE MAIN POINT HERE IS, WHILE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN AVERSION TO WAREHOUSES, I DO DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY IN MY PROFESSION, THERE'S CERTAIN SITES THAT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF HOW THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, THAT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED INTO ANOTHER TYPE OF PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND LOOK FORWARD TO FIELDING ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO I WANTED TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

IN RESPONSE TO STAFF'S 70% COVERAGE, OUR OUR SITE IS ACTUALLY 24% COVERAGE, 219,000FT■!S ON ACRES. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 930,000FT■!S. SO THANK YOU. IS IT TWO 200 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET BUILDING OR 180 AND ONE 130? YES, MA'AM. IT'S A TOTAL OF ABOUT 219,000FT■!S, ONE 85,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE THE SMALLEST WAREHOUSE IN THIS ENTIRE AREA OR AT LEAST DEVELOPED SINCE 1995. AND THEN A SECOND 135,000 SQUARE FOOT. SO TO MY RIGHT, YOUR LEFT, MISS MCGRIFF LIVES ACROSS THE STREET LIKE JUST OUTSIDE THAT LINE. MR. WILLIAMS LIVES RIGHT THERE BY THOSE TREES. AND MISS CARTER AND MISS FLOW. SO THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL IN THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE BELOW WHERE IT SAYS 2000. SO TO MY RIGHT, I THINK YOUR LEFT OVER HERE. OH NO. THE OTHER WAY THEN MAYBE I'M RIGHT. OH YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. THOSE ARE THERE. AND CROSSOVER STREET RIGHT THERE. THAT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL. YES, MA'AM. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT. BUT I'M GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. AND MARTIN ROGERS THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO. YOU'RE BUILDING THE PICTURE THAT'S ON THE FRONT. IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE BUILDING HERE? SO THAT'S A RENDERING. THAT'S A RENDERING OF I'VE GOT ANOTHER PICTURE I CAN BRING UP IF YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND. SO YOU JUST BUILD IN A MINUTE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE, RIGHT? WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUSINESS WILL ACTUALLY BE. YOU'RE JUST BUILDING THE FACILITY NOW, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. ABOUT 75% OF ALL DEVELOPMENT IS DONE SPECULATIVELY, MEANING NO TENANT IN PLACE. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET APPROVED TO BUILD THIS AND START ADVERTISING OUR SITE PLANS SO FOLKS KNOW IT'S COMING AND SAY, HEY, BEFORE WE

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EVEN START BUILDING IT, SOMEBODY COMMITS TO IT. BUT SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, BUILD A SUIT. MY PREVIOUS JOB, I DID DEVELOPMENT FOR AMAZON DIRECTLY, AND WHEN WE WOULD DO A BUILD TO SUIT, IT WOULD TAKE 24 TO 36 MONTHS FROM START TO FINISH TO DELIVER THAT PRODUCT. AND SO MANY BUSINESSES NEED NEED A HOME QUICKER THAN THAT. SO BUILDING SUITS ARE A VERY LONG PROCESS, AND SO THEY'RE A LOT RARER THAN A SPECULATIVE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS. OKAY. BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, I THINK I GOT WE GOT SOME SORT OF CORRESPONDENCE IN IT. IT SAID THAT IT WOULD EMPLOY 200 PEOPLE. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY. YES, MA'AM, UP TO 200 JOBS IS, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. AND THAT REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE AN EDUCATED GUESS ON THAT IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WE'RE PROVIDED. WE ARE PROVIDING. AND SO IF YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE SITE PLAN WE'RE PROPOSING 131 AND 86,000 SQUARE FOOT DEVELOPMENT. AND FOR A TOTAL OF 219. AND AGAIN WE PROJECT 20,000 TO 40,000 SQUARE FOOT SUITES HERE. AND JUST TO ADD ON A LITTLE THERE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE RENTAL RATE FOR WAREHOUSE IN EASTPOINT IS 6 TO 7 TO $8, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE. BECAUSE THIS LAND IS VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF WHO OWNS IT. TODAY WE'RE PROPOSING THESE 20,000 TO 40,000 SQUARE FOOT SUITES THAT WOULD THAT WE ARE HOPING WILL GENERATE HIGHER RENTS IN THE $12 RANGE. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT $12 PER SQUARE FOOT, THAT'S GETTING CLOSER TOWARDS OFFICE TYPE RENTS. AND SO WE'RE REALLY TARGETING THOSE HIGHER END USERS AND HIGHER END TENANTS THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO BE UTILIZING THIS AS KIND OF FLEXI TECHNOLOGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT TYPE SPACE IN ORDER.

IT JUST REQUIRES THAT BUSINESS IN ORDER FOR THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PAY THOSE TYPE OF RENTS. OKAY. I THINK IT'S I'M JUST I'M SORT OF FUZZY ON. EXACTLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE BUILDING THIS WAREHOUSE, BUT WHAT YOU'RE BUILD OUT IS WHO WHO IS IT THAT YOU'RE TARGETING AS FAR AS, LIKE, WHO'S COMING IN THERE? BECAUSE I INITIALLY THOUGHT IT WAS ONE BIG BUILDING, A WAREHOUSE, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE AN AMAZON DISTRIBUTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THEN NOW YOU SAID THAT LIKE 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT SUITES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. SO DO YOU HAVE ONCE YOU LET'S JUST SAY YOU WE SAY YOU DO IT HERE AND YOU BUILD IT OUT. IS THERE SOMETHING WHEN YOU GO OUT AND YOU ADVERTISE IT FOR DIFFERENT BUSINESSES TO COME IN THERE. IS THERE. YEAH. SO ARE THERE PARAMETERS THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN ONLY PUT THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS IN THERE OR WHATEVER? I MEAN I DON'T KNOW.

SO THE SMALLER THE SPACE, THE SMALLER THE SPACE WITHIN THE BUILDING, THE HIGHER RENT YOU CAN ASK FOR. OKAY. AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE FOR US TO GO LEASE THIS OUT TO A USER THAT'S GOING TO TAKE, SAY, BOTH BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PAY THE TYPE OF RENTS WE GET FROM BREAKING THE SUITES SMALLER. AND SO OUR WHOLE THESIS BEHIND THIS IS THOSE SMALLER TENANTS. YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE DOING A BUILD OUT FOR SUITE TENANTS. WE'RE GOING TO YES, MA'AM. WE'LL BUILD SPECULATIVE OFFICES IN THOSE. SO WHEN TENANTS COME TO SEE OUR SPACE THEY CAN POTENTIALLY MOVE IN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A MONTH. AND WHAT I WAS TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS, IS TENANTS IN THE SOUTH ATLANTA AREA THAT OCCUPY SIMILARLY SIZED SPACES. AND THESE ARE THE TYPE OF TENANTS WE'LL TARGET. AND KIND OF TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION EARLIER. YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS NOTED HOW A LOT OF THE WAREHOUSES IN EASTPOINT. BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT AS WELL, THERE'S SO MANY OLDER WAREHOUSE PRODUCT, SO MUCH OLDER WAREHOUSE PRODUCT THERE. WE'RE WE'RE TARGETING, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE REALLY THRIVED IN THOSE SPACES STARTED GENERATING A LOT OF MONEY AND INCOME AND ARE LOOKING TO UPGRADE AND ARE LOOKING TO MOVE INTO A BRAND NEW SPACE. ALL RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND BETTER NOW. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. YES, MA'AM. AS A PERSON THAT LIVES IN WARD D AND RESIDES IN THIS AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS. THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS SURROUNDING THIS PROJECT, AND I GUESS MY FIRST REASON IS THAT YOU WERE DENIED BY OUR OWN ARMY COMMISSION BOARD AND ALSO OUR STAFF. AND THE REASON FOR DENIAL WAS THAT I BELIEVE YOU ALL WANTED TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO BUILD, BUT NOT INFORM OUR STAFF OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE HOUSED THERE AND ALSO THE LOT COVERAGE. AS A RESIDENT, I DID

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AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. CAN YOU PULL UP MY OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, PLEASE, OR PASS IT OUT AS A AS A AS A RESIDENT? I DID AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR THE NUMBER OF WAREHOUSES IN WARD D IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE SINCE 2021, IN 56 WAREHOUSES HAVE COME INTO EASTPOINTE, AND 26 OF THEM ARE IN WARD D WITH WARD B, WITH A STRONG 30 FOLLOWED CLOSE BEHIND. AS A CITY, WE NEED TO TURN THE PAGE ON INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. MOST CITIES ARE USING THESE SPACES AND TURNING THEM INTO FOOD HALLS, CREATIVE SPACES. AND LATELY HERE WE HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING, WHICH IS OVER THERE ON THE SYLVAN ROAD, THAT SYLVAN ROAD PROJECT. AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE, HAD THE FORETHOUGHT TO PLACE A MORATORIUM ON THE QUICK BUILD OF WAREHOUSES COMING INTO OUR CITY. THE RESIDENTS THAT RESIDE IN THE AREA, INCLUDING INCLUDING MYSELF, HAVE WORKED HARD ALONG WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE AND PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS MEMBERS, TO HOLD THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS. OUR NEW NEIGHBOR, WHICH IS ON THEIR ON THE ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED. MRS. SMITH FROM PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, OUR NEW NEIGHBOR HAS DESTROYED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. THEY ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY HAD. THE QUALITY OF LIFE HAS BEEN IMPACTED SINCE THEIR CONSTRUCTION. NO ONE REALLY CARES ABOUT TESLAS BEING DRIVEN TO THE DATA CENTER. AND IN FACT, THE CURRENT SALARY OF A DATA CENTER EMPLOYEE IS 40 2KA YEAR. WHAT OUR MAIN CONCERN NOW IS THE PROPERTY DAMAGE DUE TO THAT CURRENT SITE BEING DEVELOPED. IT'S BEEN UPWARDS TO ALMOST $800,000 IN RESIDENTS PROPERTY DAMAGES OVER THERE IN WARD D DUE TO THE BLAST AND DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN AN UPHILL BATTLE. THIS WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. INCREASED TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND JUST THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN GENERAL. THE ATLANTA AIRPORT OPERATES 24 HOURS A DAY, WITH THE FIRST FLIGHT LEAVING OUT AT 3 A.M. EVERY DAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. RIGHT NOW, BEN HILL ROAD IS A TWO LANE HIGHWAY. WE ARE CLOSELY CONNECTED TO THE CITY OF SOUTH FULTON, SO WE GET THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT COME FROM SOUTH FULTON. THEY ARE TRAVELING DOWN BEN HILL ROAD AND NOT TO MENTION THE COMMUNITIES THAT LIVE ALONG BEN HILL ROAD. SO INCREASED TRAFFIC. SO I AM GOING TO HAVE TO STAND WITH THE RESIDENTS OF MY COMMUNITY IN THIS. THIS JUST CANNOT HAPPEN TO US. MISS SMITH PUT UP AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF WHERE THESE TWO PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE. THE MAYOR MENTIONED RESIDENTS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE, SENIOR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE WORKED HARD ALL THEIR LIVES AND ALL THEY WANT IS A DECENT QUALITY QUALITY OF LIFE. YOU ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PRACTICAL USE IN AN EMAIL THAT I ASKED OUR DIRECTOR FOR. I SAID, WELL, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE? BECAUSE IF YOU GO A FEW MILES DOWN THE ROAD, YOU HAVE TRILITH. THEY HAVE DESIGNED THAT WHOLE AREA INTO SOMETHING BIG FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE, A MOVIE THEATER, RESTAURANTS, SHOPS, ENJOYMENT SPACES. I MEAN, WE REALLY HAVE TO TURN A PAGE ON THE INDUSTRIALIZATION AND WAREHOUSES COMING INTO THE CITY OF EAST POINT. WE REALLY, REALLY DO. BUT YOU SAID THAT IT WASN'T A PRACTICAL USE. I BEG TO DIFFER BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH MRS. JESSIE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW I CALLED 100 TIMES, BUT ONE THING THAT I WAS ADVISED THAT COULD GO THERE WAS A GYM OR A FITNESS CENTER, TAXI STANDS, A VETERINARIAN CLINIC. DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS, NOT TO LOCATE CLOSER THAN 15, A LITTLE OVER 1500 FEET. THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE. CULTURAL FACILITIES, A DRIVE IN MOVIE THEATER. SO I BEG TO DIFFER. AND I WOULD JUST ASK MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL TO JUST SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THAT RESIDE IN WARD D. WE ARE TAKING A BEATING WITH THE CURRENT

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DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING ON, AND WE JUST DON'T NEED MORE WAREHOUSES. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TURN THE PAGE ON INDUSTRIALIZATION OF OUR CITY AND IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS RIGHT ALONG BENFIELD ROAD, THE SUN VALLEY COMMUNITY, SAVANNAH WALK.

ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED BY THAT DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THEIR HOME THAT OPERATES 24 SEVEN. THE CONSTANT BEEPING OF THE TRUCKS, THE NOISE, IT IS JUST A CONSTANT. SO THAT IS MY POSITION ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. YEAH. THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF I THINK. SO. MR. HARRINGTON HAD MENTIONED A NUMBER OF, I GUESS, WHAT HE PERCEIVED AS INCONSISTENT INCONSISTENCIES IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND SO ON. DO YOU HAVE RESPONSE OR REBUTTAL TO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT THE APPLICANT RAISED? YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON, FREELY IN REFERENCE TO THE STAFF REPORT. THOSE ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT WERE WRITTEN IN ERROR. WE DO HAVE AN UPDATED STAFF REPORT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT GETS IT. WE HAVE IT UPDATED AND IT WAS UPLOADED INTO THE SYSTEM. BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A JUNIOR STAFF PERSON ON THERE. AND IT JUST THAT THOSE MOST OF THOSE THINGS WERE IN ERROR. SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE ANALYSIS AND THE STAFF REPORT. AND THAT WAS DONE IN ERROR. SO APOLOGIES IN REFERENCE TO THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE THE UPDATE THAT WAS DONE IN ERROR. THE REFERENCES TO THE TRAFFIC WHERE IT WAS SAYING THAT IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TRAFFIC. AND SO JUST TELL US WHAT IT IS, NOT WHAT WAS IN ERROR, WHAT IS WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT, WHAT'S IN THE REPORT? WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT REPORT? IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS AT ALL. SO IT WAS LEFT OUT COMPLETELY. CAN WE ASK WHEN IT WAS UPDATED AND DID? WAS ANYBODY SENT A COPY OF IT? OKAY. LAWYER, YOU'RE GOING INTO THE COURTROOM, I GOT YOU I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. SO WE JUST HAD SOME INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN. WHAT IS STAFF'S. RECOMMENDATION AND POSITION? STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL BASED ON YOU SAID SO. I'M. I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER. FREELY. I KNOW, I CHIMED IN, BUT WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING IS IN ERROR, LIKE WE NEED THE INFORMATION THAT IS NOT IN ERROR, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS IN ERROR. THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE PROVIDED THAT WE PROVIDED IN OUR PRESENTATION, THAT IS, INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THIS, THAT THAT WAS THE INFORMATION THAT IS CORRECT. AND THE STAFF REPORT, THE INITIAL STAFF REPORT ALSO STATED THAT THERE WAS A DENIAL. PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED DENIAL. WHAT WAS AN ERROR WAS STATEMENTS MADE IN REFERENCE TO TRAFFIC BEING IN COMPLIANCE. THE PROPOSED PROPERTY, THE PROPOSED PROJECT TRAFFIC BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WITH THE PLAN. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. YEAH. SO IT IT'S JUST THE POINT ABOUT TRAFFIC THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. YES. OKAY. MR. HARRINGTON RAISED MORE THAN JUST THAT POINT. SO DO YOU HAVE OTHER REBUTTAL BUT THEN ALSO QUESTION. SO WHEN THE COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS, WERE THEY LOOKING AT AN INACCURATE REPORT? THE REPORT ITSELF WASN'T SPECIFICALLY OVERALL HOLISTICALLY INACCURATE. THERE WERE STATEMENTS MADE WITHIN THE ANALYSIS OF THE REPORT THAT STATED THAT WE HAD MADE AN ANALYSIS IN REFERENCE TO TRAFFIC GENERATED, THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC. THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, THOSE INSTANCES MADE TO THE TRAFFIC WERE THOSE INSTANCES AND REFERENCES MADE TO TRAFFIC AND PARKING BEING CONSISTENT.

WERE WERE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE IN ERROR. OKAY, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS STATED IN THERE IS CORRECT. IT WAS JUST SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC AND ALL OF THAT, ALL OF THE STUFF DEALING WITH TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC.

OKAY, STILL COMING TO THE SAME CONCLUSION OF A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. UNDERSTAND IT'S THE SAME CONCLUSION. YEAH, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, THOUGH. IF THE COMMISSION WAS BASING ITS DECISION ON A FLAWED REPORT,

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DOES THAT PRESENT PROBLEMS FOR US DOWN THE ROAD? AND THEN AGAIN, MR. ARRINGTON MENTIONED SEVERAL OTHER INCONSISTENCIES IN IN THE PERCEPTION OF THE APPLICANT. AND SO, IN REFERENCE TO THE INCONSISTENCIES THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WHERE SAYING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP THAT I PUT UP WHERE IT SHOWED THIS, THE GREEN CIRCLES AND THE ROOFTOPS, THE RECTANGLE WHITE ROOFTOPS, THOSE ARE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS. UNFORTUNATELY. CITY OF EAST POINT WENT IN THAT DIRECTION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

BUT IN 2020, WE PUT THE NEW POLICIES IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE CITY. AND SO THIS CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES FOR ANY TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL USE, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHAT HAVE YOU TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR A USE PERMIT? IT'S DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. WE CAN'T STOP WHAT WAS ALREADY HERE. BUT WE CAN PUT POLICIES IN PLACE, WHICH WE DID FIVE YEARS AGO. FOR WHEN THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS COME FORWARD, WHICH GIVES YOU AND THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, TO SEE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS ACTUALLY WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE CITY. AND SO BASED ON THOSE ANALYSIS, STAFF DID RECOMMEND DENIAL BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE UNKNOWN. AND WE JUST WE JUST DON'T KNOW. BUT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE POLICIES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE, IT'S REALLY TO GIVE COUNCIL THE COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT WHAT DO WE WANT? WHAT DO WE REALLY WANT HERE? WHAT WILL SUPPORT, HOW CAN WE STILL SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH, BUT NOT ADD TO THE PROBLEM? THAT OBVIOUSLY WENT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS? OKAY, THANKS. AND I LOOKS LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL YOU? SO I'M BACK ON JUST A MOMENT. I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, BUT WE ALL HAVE TO TURN OUR LIGHTS OFF SO CITY ATTORNEY CAN TALK. GO AHEAD. SO I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN FRIEDLI, WAS WHETHER OR NOT A STAFF REPORT WITH AN ERROR CREATES SOME PROBLEMS FOR US. SO I WOULD OPINE THAT IT LIKELY WOULDN'T.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A REFERRAL AUTHORITY. THEY'RE NOT THE FINAL ARBITER OF THE USE PERMIT. AND THEN HERE WE ARE AT THE WORK SESSION TO WORK OUT AND DISCUSS THE ISSUES WITH THE APPLICATION, THE PROS AND CONS, AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S REPORT AND ALSO THE OPINIONS OF THE COUNCIL. SO NOW IF WE GOT TO THE BUSINESS SESSION AND IT WAS VOTING TIME, AND THEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR AND YOU GUYS RELIED UPON THAT STAFF REPORT FOR YOUR VOTE, I THINK THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE. BUT, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY WE'RE CATCHING IT BEFORE WE GOT TO THE FINAL DECISION, WHICH HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. SO THIS IS THE BEST TIME TO DISCOVER IF THERE'S AN ISSUE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. SORRY, I HAD I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. JUST ONE MORE. TURNED OUT, SO I WAS. I DIDN'T KNOW, SO. FOR STAFF AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SPECULATIVE, BUT JUST INDULGE ME AS BEST YOU CAN. SO GIVEN EVERYTHING SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LANDLOCKED WITH A LOT OF SIMILAR PROPERTIES. SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT. WHAT OTHER USES DO YOU SEE REALISTICALLY FOR THIS SPACE IN SOME FUTURE? I MEAN, I'M NOT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE AROUND THERE, I MEAN, SOMETHING THAT WOULD SUPPORT ALL OF THOSE RESIDENCES THAT ARE THAT ARE AROUND THERE, MAYBE SOME TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, SOME TYPE OF MIXED USE RE ADAPTIVE HOTEL MOVIE, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT THAT COULD REALLY REIMAGINE THAT SITE. BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO BECAUSE BASICALLY HOW IT'S LAID OUT ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S LITERALLY AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE NEW MICROSOFT DATA CENTER. SO THE ENTRY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THE SAME ROADS AS THE RESIDENCES. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE MIXING TRACTOR TRAILER USES PERHAPS WITH THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE ALREADY SPECKLED, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY SURROUNDING THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND IT APPEARS TO HAVE A ACCESS OFF OF SOUTH MEADOWS, WHICH IS. AN AUXILIARY ROAD. AND SO THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR RESIDENCES TO NESTLE INTO THAT AREA, MAKE A LEFT TURN INTO THAT SPECIFIC SITE AND, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE MOVIES OR GO TO I MEAN, THERE'S

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SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT, MIXED USE RESIDENT HOTEL TYPE OF USES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF METRO AND IN THE UNITED STATES. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MODELS TO LOOK AT. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF CATCHING THIS AT THE VERY TAIL END, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE POLICY IS IN PLACE AND THAT IT'S DOING EXACTLY WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TODAY MAKING A, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT? SHOULD WE JUST LET IT GO OR, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO FIGHT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE INUNDATED WITH WAREHOUSES AROUND THERE EVERY DAY IN AND OUT, COME COMING HOME, YOU KNOW, SURE. WITH THIS TYPE OF TRAFFIC AND CONTRAST AND THIS IS A DEAD END STREET. CORRECT? YES. AND THEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW DAMAGING THE MICROSOFT FACILITY HAS BEEN. DOES IT SEEM LIKELY, THEN, THAT SOME SORT OF ENTERTAINMENT CENTER OR RESIDENTIAL WOULD LIKELY FLOURISH IN THAT SPOT, GIVEN WHAT'S THERE NEXT TO IT? I THINK IT PERSONALLY IT WOULD BE AN IT PROFESSIONALLY, IT WOULD BE A GREAT CONTRAST TO THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE AREA. IT WOULD GIVE THE RESIDENCES. I THINK I COUNTED ABOUT 7 TO 9 DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL CLUSTERS AROUND THERE. THERE ARE 300 HOUSES. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE LARGE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPER, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME WAY TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN OFF OF BEN HILL AND GO INTO YOUR LITTLE ENCLAVE OF ENTERTAINMENT CITY OF AVALON. I MEAN, THERE ARE MANY MODELS AROUND METRO ATLANTA. THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION, BUT I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED THE QUESTION WHEN IT CAME TO WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THERE. IN IN REFERRING TO. TRAFFIC. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WAS CORRECT. THAT WAS PROVIDED. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY THINK THAT YOU'RE SPOT ON WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT COULD BE OTHER THINGS, LIKE A MOVIE THEATER THAT REMINDS ME OF WHAT'S ON MEMORIAL DRIVE THAT'S LEADING RIGHT THERE INTO GLENWOOD. GOING TO THAT KROGER'S. THEY HAVE A PUBLIX RESTAURANT, MOVIE THEATER RIGHT THERE. EVERYTHING RIGHT THERE ON THAT STRIP MALL. AND THEN WHEN YOU TURN DOWN GLENWOOD, YOU'RE HEADED RIGHT TO THAT KROGER'S, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE THE IDEAL SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD FOR THAT COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY ARE FLOODED WITH WAREHOUSES AND TO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO BE IN THAT WAREHOUSE, THAT COULD CREATE PROBLEMS FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN LOOK INTO HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH A DEVELOPER ABOUT SOME SIMILARITIES OF WHAT'S ON MEMORIAL DRIVE. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF LEAVING AN OPEN ENDED ON WHO WOULD BE THE TENANTS FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, HOW YOU WOULD NEED TO BUILD OUT THE SPACE. LIKE IS IT GOING TO BE REFRIGERATED ITEMS, OR IS IT GOING TO BE JUST LIKE A STANDARD, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOME DEPOT KIND OF WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE SHELVES? I DON'T KNOW.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO AGAIN, A SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSE. YOU ESSENTIALLY WHEN YOU START, WHEN YOU BREAK GROUND ON THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU START MARKETING THE SPACE. WE'RE PROJECTING THIS PROJECT TO TAKE TEN MONTHS TO BUILD. A LOT OF THAT IS VERY LIGHT SITE WORK TYPE STUFF. AND THEN THE ACTUAL TILTING OF THE WALLS TAKES ABOUT FOUR DAYS. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS DONE ON THE INTERIOR. SO THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY WOULD NOT BE VERY DISTURBING IN TERMS OF WHO THE TENANTS ARE. LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD TARGET OTHER TENANTS IN THE AREA IN THAT 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT SIZE

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RANGE, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE I MENTIONED ON THE ON THE TYPE OF RENTS WE NEED TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT WORK, IT WOULD BE HIGHER END TENANTS LIKE LIKE ONE OF THE BUSINESSES I MENTIONED WAS VOLVO, WHO IS USING THEIR FACILITY. THAT'S ABOUT 15,000FTS TO TRAIN HIGH END SERVICE STACKS. WE'VE DEVELOPED AN INDUSTRIAL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND WE HAVE RECENTLY PUT A PICKLEBALL USER IN ONE OF OUR FACILITIES WHERE THEY HAVE RECREATIONAL PICKLEBALL COURTS AND OUR, YOU KNOW, USING THAT AS A COMMUNITY AMENITY. I DID WANT TO JUST CLARIFY ON THIS LIST OF 56 LICENSES FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, THESE ARE ACTUALLY ALL EXISTING WAREHOUSES. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT NEW WAREHOUSES THAT WERE BUILT, THEIR INTERIOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FOR TENANTS OF EXISTING WAREHOUSES. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION, AND I'M HAPPY TO FURTHER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IF I DIDN'T. BUT IN SHORT, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO LEASE IT. I WISH I DID. IT WOULD MAKE MY JOB A LOT EASIER. OKAY. BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS THAT. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WAREHOUSES, YOU KNOW, AND INDUSTRIAL POLLUTANTS AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENCES WHO MAY NOT LIVE WITHIN THE 2000 FOOT RADIUS, YOU KNOW, REFRIGERANTS ARE THEY'RE PRETTY TOXIC TO, TO AIR QUALITY AND ESPECIALLY TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE RIGHT AROUND THERE. AND SO THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHO IT IS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY TARGETING. YES, MA'AM. SO COLD STORAGE DEVELOPMENT IS KIND OF A COMPLETELY SEPARATE AREA FROM WHAT I DO. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO BUILD COLD STORAGE AND REFRIGERATED SPACE. SO THE COLD STORAGE REFRIGERANTS WILL NOT BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY. AND CERTAINLY IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO IMPOSE LIMITS LIKE THAT. OH, SORRY. CERTAINLY IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO IMPOSE ANY LIMITS OR RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO COLD STORAGE OR REFRIGERANTS, THAT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT USING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR PIECES OF VACANT PROPERTY AND ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LARGE, YOU KNOW, AREA OF EAST POINT. IT'S ONLY 14.2MI■!S. SO E DO HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COMES THROUGH US, YOU KNOW, VERY SERIOUSLY AT THE LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. ONE, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED IS THIS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS ISSUED A LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT BACK IN 2018 FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY CALLED MACDONALD DEVELOPMENT STARTED THAT PROJECT, CLEARED THE SITE, GRADED THE SITE, PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEIR INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TO BE BUILT. REYES HOLDINGS, THE TENANT TO THE SOUTH WHO MARTIN-BROWER IS WHAT IT SAYS ON THE BUILDING, THEN BOUGHT THE SITE BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY MAY NEED IT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THEY'VE NOW DECIDED THEY DON'T NEED IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE OF WHO OWNS IT.

REYES HOLDINGS, THE FIFTH LARGEST PRIVATE COMPANY IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT A PRICE CUT. AND SO THIS SITE IS EXPENSIVE. AND BECAUSE OF ALL THAT SITE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE TO STRIP THAT OUT WOULD COST $750,000. AND THEN TO PUT IT BACK IN WOULD COST ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS. AND NOT ONLY THE LOCATION AND THE DEAD END NATURE OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK ROAD HERE, PROHIBITING OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, THE COST OF THE SITE AND THE SITE WORK THAT'S ALREADY ATTACHED TO IT IS PROHIBITIVE TO OTHER DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK A PART OF THE CHALLENGE FOR ME, AND IT REALLY PIGGYBACKS ON PIGGYBACKS ON SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS, IS THAT, YES, SIR. WE TALKED ABOUT THE REASON THAT THE ZONING CODE WAS UPDATED. IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S AN I ONE ZONING DISTRICT.

AND SO THE QUESTION MIGHT BE TO SOME FOLKS, WELL IT'S A WAREHOUSE. WAREHOUSES ARE GENERALLY ALLOWED, BUT WE SPECIFICALLY PUT IN THE PROVISION REQUIRING A USE PERMIT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS FOR PARTICULARLY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES THAT ABUT THAT I-1 ZONING DISTRICT. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO SHARE WHO YOUR TENANTS WILL BE AND THE TYPE OF USE AT THE P AND Z LEVEL. WHEN ASKED SOME OF YOUR CURRENT TENANTS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE SPACES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, THERE WERE SOME TENANTS THAT YOU HAD LISTED THAT COULD PERHAPS CREATE SORT OF A NEGATIVE QUALITY OF LIFE, DEPENDING UPON THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS THAT HAD TO GO IN AND OUT, WHAT THEY WERE

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STORING ON THE SITE, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO ASKING FOR A USE PERMIT, IT ISN'T AN I-1 DISTRICT. SO WAREHOUSES GENERALLY ALLOWED THEIR. THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION WAS ADDED BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SORT OF MITIGATE THE TYPES OF USES, AND PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT WERE CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. SO IF YOU HAD PERHAPS LETTERS OF INTENT OR SOME OTHER THINGS OF SOME OF YOUR OTHER TENANTS OR TENANTS THAT COULD GO HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE RESIDENTS AROUND HERE. BUT JUST TO SAY THAT WE NEED THIS USE PERMIT, IT'S GOING TO BE WAREHOUSING. THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE.

WELL, A LOT OF THINGS COULD GO THERE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S ALREADY IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. BUT IT COULD BE A USE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE TRACTOR TRAILERS, ISN'T GOING TO BRING IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRAFFIC. IT COULD BE VERY PASSIVE. IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS. WE HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE YOU'VE ONLY SAID, WELL, THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE AND WE DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR A USE PERMIT AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE USE WILL BE. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. AND I WILL SAY THAT THAT THIS SITE IS PART OF AN INDUSTRIAL PARK AND IS AND IS GOVERNED BY THE COVENANTS OF THOSE INDUSTRIAL PARK, OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE COVENANTS OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK DO HAVE A LONG LIST OF PROHIBITED USES THAT SHOULD MITIGATE SOME OF THAT CONCERN. SO I CAN PROVIDE THAT. RIGHT.

AND I DO REMEMBER MR. ARRINGTON MENTIONING THE SOUTH MEADOW COVENANT. AND SO I'VE NEVER SEEN IT, DON'T KNOW WHAT USES ARE NOT ALLOWED AS A PART OF THAT COVENANT, DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE OTHER RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE PART OF THAT COVENANT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION. YES, SIR. I'LL PROVIDE IT. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU WERE ALLOWED TO BUILD ON THIS SITE, HOW CLOSE TO THE STREET WOULD YOU BE AT BEN HILL ROAD? WHAT TYPE OF COVERING WOULD COULD YOU HAVE? SO HOW CLOSE? WE WOULDN'T BE? BEN HILL ROAD TO THE EAST. YES. SO WE'D BE ABOUT 2000FT FROM IT AND WE'D HAVE THE MICROSOFT DATA CENTER IN BETWEEN US. NO, I MEAN, YOU HAD IF I'M ON BEN HILL AND SOUTH MEADOW, RIGHT. HOW FAR ON THE, ON THE CORNER? BECAUSE IF YOU SEE WHERE THE MICROSOFT THERE'S A LOT OF WOODED BUFFERS. RIGHT. SO YOU YEAH YOU CANNOT SEE OUR SITE FROM BEN HILL AND I THINK IT'S CALLED WELCOME ALL. ONCE IT GETS UP TO OUR INTERSECTION. BUT YOU CAN'T SEE OUR SITE. AND WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 1500 FEET FROM THE CORNER OF OUR SITE TO THE ROAD THERE. BUT THERE'S A SLIGHT UPHILL FROM, FROM WELCOME ALL UP SOUTH MEADOW TO OUR SITE.

AND THEN THAT SITE THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF US IS OWNED BY MCDONNELL DEVELOPMENT, AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER WHO'S CURRENTLY ADVERTISING IT TO FOR LEASE FOR THEM TO BUILD AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. THIS QUESTION ISN'T FOR THIS PARTICULAR GROUP. COULD YOU PUT UP THE DIRECTOR'S VISUAL THAT SHE HAD OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY? AND I ALSO HAVE COUNSEL TO NOTE THAT RED LINE RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE DATA CENTER, THAT IS A CLUSTER OF RESIDENTS, THAT THAT WAS THE WALL WE HAD TO ADVOCATE FOR IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PEACE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. SOME PEOPLE FOUGHT SO HARD FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT AT ANY RATE, THAT RED LINE THAT IS A NOISE BARRIER THAT INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY WANTED BECAUSE OF THE MICROSOFT PROJECT. BUT THIS IS THIS IS VERY CONCERNING.

THESE ARE THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SURROUNDED BY WHAT YOU WANT TO BRING HERE TO MY COMMUNITY. SO I'D LIKE FOR PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME. I JUST GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE WATCHING NOW. THEY WANTED TO SEE THIS PICTURE, SO I JUST WANTED THIS TO COME BACK BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. THE IMPACT OF OUR COMMUNITY TAKING OVER BY INDUSTRIALIZATION. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU. SO I I'M GLAD THAT MY COLLEAGUE BROUGHT FORTH THIS PICTURE BECAUSE IT GIVES A CLEARER VIEW. SO WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF BEN HILL IN SOUTH MEADOW? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ONLY WANT TO BUILD WHERE THE RED LINE IS. WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY? THAT'S CORRECT. SO THIS WHOLE ROAD AND ALL OF

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THE INDUSTRIAL SITES ON IT AT ONE TIME WAS OWNED BY A MCDONNELL DEVELOPMENT. MCDONNELL DEVELOPED THOSE TWO BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH OF US. THEY WERE PLANNING TO DEVELOP OUR SITE AND THEN SOLD IT TO REYES HOLDINGS, WHO BOUGHT THE BUILDING, THAT MCDONNELL DEVELOPED IT BEFORE THEM. AND THEN MCDONNELL STILL OWNS THE SITE TO THE NORTH OF US. SO THE SITE IN THE VERY FRONT IS STILL OWNED BY MCDONNELL? YES, SIR. THERE'S A SIGN ON IT RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE ADVERTISING 113 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL FACILITY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY ADVERTISED 113 000. SO THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED ON THAT SITE IN FRONT. I ASSUME THAT THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH IT, AND I ASSUME THEY WOULD NEED TO, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ADVERTISING. AND THEN ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO PUT TWO DIFFERENT TWO BUILDINGS THERE. ONE WAS 130 AND ONE WAS 80. YES, SIR. SO THIS SITE HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. IT'S BEEN HARD FOR ANYBODY TO STOMACH THE COST OF THE LAND, WHICH IS WHY IT'S STILL AVAILABLE. THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS BEING WIDELY ADVERTISED WAS WAS FOR ONE SINGLE, 230 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SITE JOGS AND THE BUILDING JOGS. THE BUILDING. THIS, WHEN IT WAS A SINGLE BUILDING, HAD TO JOG WITH THE SITE. AND SO IT WAS VARYING BUILDING DEPTHS, WHICH IS KIND OF A SUB INSTITUTIONAL INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT. AND BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE, LIKE WE HAVE A DESIGN NOW, IT REALLY ONLY FIT FOR ONE TENANT. AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU CAN GET HIGHER RENTS WITH SMALLER TENANTS. THE RENT THAT YOU COULD GET FOR THAT SINGLE 230 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WASN'T JUSTIFIED. LIKE DIDN'T JUSTIFY THE PRICE OF THE LAND AND THE PRICE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THEN WE HAD THE IDEA TO PUT THE ROAD DOWN THE MIDDLE, MAKE THE BUILDING SMALLER, AND TARGET THOSE SMALLER TENANTS WITH LESS TRUCK TRAFFIC TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT WORK. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD. AND YEAH, SO SINCE MY COLLEAGUE FROM WARD DE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS WATCHING, I FEEL PROPELLED TO SPEAK TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY DECISIONS ARE, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS I ADVOCATED FOR MICROSOFT TO REDUCE TRACTOR TRAILER TRAFFIC AND TO BE AND VERY CONSIDERATE OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY, SINCE SOME PEOPLE NEED TO BE REFRESHED. THE CITY INVITED MCDONNELL TO MAKE THAT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WAY BACK IN 2008. BEFORE MANY OF US, NO ONE WAS ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THEY ANNEXED PART OF UNINCORPORATED SOUTH FULLERTON INTO THE CITY AND PUT INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS VERY BAD.

NOBODY WANTS THAT. SO IT'S JUST NOT FAIR. IN FACT, IT'S INCITING AND YOU'RE PROVOKING PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE NOT GIVING THEM ALL THE INFORMATION. AND OUR JOB HERE ON COUNCIL IS TO BE CONSIDERATE AND DO THE BEST JOB WE CAN FOR THE PEOPLE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. THE FACT IS THAT IS AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. I AM THE FIRST PERSON TO FIGHT AGAINST WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2016 THAT THIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WITH STATE REPS ABOUT PUTTING WAREHOUSES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN. SO IT'S JUST THE SHENANIGANS HAVE TO STOP. THIS IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL EGOS. IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PEOPLE. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE BUSINESSES TO THE CITY ARE PEOPLE TOO. SO ENOUGH WITH THE JABS AND TRYING TO SHOWBOAT. WE SHOULD BE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT JABBING AT OTHER PEOPLE. I KNOW THE PEOPLE OF THOSE AREAS. IN FACT, I TALK TO THEM OFTEN, AND FOR US NOT TO GIVE SERIOUS THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING AN INDUSTRIAL USE IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, WE HAVE TO BE CONSIDERATE ABOUT THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE CONS TO WHICH SOME PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL HAVE MENTIONED. SO ENOUGH TRYING TO THROW PEOPLE UNDER THE BUS WITH THESE SLIGHT REMARKS, ESPECIALLY ON WHAT SHOULD BE A COLEMAN LOVE DAY, WE SHOULD REALLY JUST GIVE SOME ADEQUATE PROFESSIONAL

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CONSIDERATION TO THE REQUEST THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT HERE, AND TO DO SO IS INSULTING TO THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT. AND IT ASSAULTS THE PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS. SO I'VE BEEN REAL PATIENT. IT'S MY TURN NOW. YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN YOU SAY STUFF LIKE HIGHER RENTS AND MORE UNITS, THAT SPEAKS TO THE PROFITABILITY FOR YOUR COMPANY AND THAT THAT'S NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS WHEN YOU SPEAK OF NOTHING ELSE IS GOING TO GO THERE. TO ME, THAT'S LOW EXPECTATIONS. WE HAVE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ATTRACT THINGS THAT WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE, WHICH IS WHY WE CREATED TWO NEW INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS TO BRING IN THINGS THAT WOULD BE MORE COMPATIBLE, BECAUSE WE INHERITED DECISIONS THAT HAPPENED DECADES BEFORE US, THAT ALLOWED INDUSTRIAL TO BE WHAT RESIDENTIAL IS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT I'M SURE WHERE YOU LIVE, THERE'S NOT INDUSTRIAL THAT'S CLOSE TO YOUR HOME. PEOPLE DON'T BUILD LIKE THIS IN OTHER AREAS OR IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND IT'S NOT YOUR ISSUE, RIGHT? IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL INHERITED. NOTHING ELSE CAN GO THERE. IT'S LIKE A GLASS HALF EMPTY PERSPECTIVE. WE BELIEVE THE GLASS IS HALF FULL. WHAT'S FOR SURE IS IF THIS GOES THERE, NOTHING CAN GO THERE. YES, MA'AM. BUT IF IT DOESN'T, WE'RE LANDLOCKED. WE CAN'T ANNEX ANY MORE LAND IN. WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, AND GOD ISN'T MAKING ANY MORE LAND. I THINK THE LEVEL OF SPECULATION THAT IS BEING ASKED ON THIS SIDE, THE REALITY OF IT IS THE REASON WE PUT A SPECIAL.

THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN PLACE IS FOR THIS REASON, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING THERE, SO WE CAN KNOW THE IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS. YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN US ANY INFORMATION. YOU'VE TOLD US OF THE TYPES OF INDUSTRIES IN THE AREA. YEAH, WE KNOW GRADY'S COMING AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THEIR EFFICIENCIES AND PROFITABILITY. IT'S NOT PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. LIKE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S ALL SPECULATIVE. AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SPECULATION IS NOT WHAT WE MAKE DECISIONS ON. WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT THE SPECIAL USE IS TO SEE IF IT'S COMPATIBLE. LETTER OF INTENT. WITHIN THIS NEXT WEEK TO ME WILL BE SUSPECT, RIGHT? LIKE OF COURSE. I MEAN, IS THAT JUST A CONVERSATION LIKE, YEAH, I WOULD CONSIDER. BUT IF WE KNEW WHAT WAS REALLY GOING INTO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS TO ALLOW THE USE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. ON STONEWALL TAIL ROAD, THERE ARE FACILITIES THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THIS THAT ARE BIG, OPEN AND VACANT, SO NOTHING ELSE CAN GO ON THAT LAND. RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN OCCUPIED, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE'S THEY TORE DOWN LIKE 4 OR 5 HOUSES OR MAYBE MORE, AND SOMETHING MASSIVE IS BEING BUILT. I WOULD LOVE TO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A MIXED USE, YOU KNOW, SOME ENTERTAINMENT, RESTAURANT, RETAIL, QUALITY OF LIFE TYPE STUFF. BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE WAREHOUSE. THEN THERE'S A WAREHOUSE RIGHT ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET. THERE'S A WAREHOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEN THERE'S RESIDENTIAL AT THE CORNER. LIKE, WHAT IS EVEN THE OCCUPANCY RATE IN THIS AREA? BECAUSE I KNOW I TRAVEL THAT ROAD ALMOST EVERY DAY, TAKING MY DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL. AND THE TRAFFIC IS AWFUL RIGHT NOW WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. YES, MA'AM. BUT THOSE PLACES ARE VACANT AND THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. THEY'RE NOT TOO FAR FROM THIS LOCATION. RIGHT. BUT I THINK TO FOCUS ON WHAT THE REAL ISSUE IS AND NOT CONFLATED WITH ALL WITH OTHER THINGS. YOU'RE ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND HAVEN'T TOLD US WHAT USE IS GOING TO BE ON THE PROPERTY. YES, MA'AM. THE USE IS LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. AND JUST TO CLARIFY ON MY NOTHING ELSE COULD GO THERE COMMENT. IT'S NOT THAT SOMETHING COULDN'T GO RIGHT DOWN THE STREET THAT HAD FRONTAGE ON A ROAD THAT GENERATES TRAFFIC. MY REASON FOR SAYING NOTHING ELSE COULD GO THERE IS BECAUSE THAT ROAD GENERATES NO TRAFFIC BESIDES INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC, BECAUSE IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.

UNTIL SOMETHING GOES THERE THAT DOES. SO, LIKE EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT ALL THE ADAPTIVE USES IN ATLANTA AND THE DIFFERENT INDUSTRIAL PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO PLACES THAT HAVE REALLY NICE RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN GO DO. RIGHT. SO AND THE REASON FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IS THAT THOSE FACILITIES ARE OLD INDUSTRIAL

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FACILITIES. THEY CAN BE BOUGHT AT BELOW REPLACEMENT COST OF WHAT IT COST TO BUILD SOMETHING.

BUT YOU'RE BACK. I HEAR YOU, BUT YOU'RE BACK TO THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR YOU AND THE BUSINESS. MY BUSINESS FOR ANYBODY. IT'S NOT ME. THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS THAT LEADS TO PROFIT. YES, MA'AM. I, I HAVE TO PUT PEOPLE OVER PROFIT, PEOPLE OVER PARTY PERSONALITIES AND ALL OF THAT. MY SUPERVISORS ARE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. YES, MA'AM. AND IF WE DON'T ADVOCATE FOR THEM AND WE MAKE DECISIONS, WE CAN'T UNRING THIS BELL. IT'S VACANT.

IT'S VACANT LAND RIGHT NOW. IF SOMETHING IS BUILT ON IT THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND REDO THAT. I MEAN, THE COST IS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE SUBSTANTIAL TO DO THAT. SO I'M JUST SAYING IT'S HERE FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE USE IS GOING TO BE. A SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOES NOT ALLOW SPECULATION. IT IS FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE, TO KNOW WHAT THE USE IS AND SAY, OKAY, FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT THE USE IS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH AND WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OR WILL DEFINITELY NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. AND AGAIN, ELOY IS IN A WEEK. NO, I MEAN, UNLESS YOU GOT CONTRACTS SIGNED AND COMMITMENTS LIKE THAT'S STILL SPECULATIVE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANY IN THIS AREA? NO, WE ARE JUST ENTERING THE GEORGIA MARKET. OH, YOU'RE JUST ENTERING THE GEORGIA MARKET. THE ONE THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU HAVE, ARE THEY NEAR RESIDENTIAL? IN SOME CASES, THEY'RE AS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO HERE. I THINK MY MAIN POINT IS THAT THAT WE'RE NOT THE CLOSEST OF OUR TYPE OF USE TO ANY, ANY SINGLE HOUSE. EVERY HOUSE ON THIS SCREEN HAS A WAREHOUSE THAT'S CLOSER TO THEM THAN WE WOULD BE, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE AND CHANGE OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, AND CREATED TWO NEW ZONING DISTRICTS. BECAUSE WE INHERITED THIS, AND WE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE DEMANDING THAT WE DO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT WILL ENHANCE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THAT WE KNOW AND WE'RE NOT SPECULATING ABOUT WHAT'S COMING THERE. SO THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON TUESDAY. MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY, SO WE WON'T MEET ON MONDAY. WE'LL MEET ON TUESDAY, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND COUNCIL WILL MAKE WHATEVER DECISIONS AT THAT TIME OR MOVE, TAKE ANY ACTION IT DEEMS NECESSARY AT THAT TIME. AND SO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. AFTER PRESENTATIONS. SO THOSE WE GENERALLY GET TO THOSE A LITTLE QUICKER THAN THE REST OF THE AGENDA. BUT WE WILL SEE YOU ALL ON MONDAY. AND IS THERE A TUESDAY? I JUST SAID I JUST WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE EXPLANATION. YES. AND THEN SAID MONDAY, I'M SORRY. IS THERE A TIME THAT THE CORRECTED STAFF REPORT WILL BE ISSUED TO ME? BECAUSE I STILL HAVE NOT. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT. OKAY. REAL QUICK. YEAH. AND I WANT TO KNOW WHEN WAS IT, WHEN WAS IT ENTERED. WHAT. SO YOU GOT TO TALK TO THE STAFF. YOU GOT TO TALK TO STAFF AND LEGAL AND ALL OF THAT REGARDING THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T HAVE THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL I WAS GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD GET THAT COVENANT INFORMATION. YES, SIR. I'M EMAILING IT RIGHT NOW. OH, COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, WILL YOU ALL OF YOU ARE. WELL, IT'S REAL EASY, MADAM MAYOR. FIRST, FIRST INITIAL, LAST NAME AT EACH POINT. CITY.ORG. THANKS, GUYS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. HAPPY NEW YEAR. SAME TO YOU. AND WE DID I DID ATTACH OUR CONSTITUTIONAL ALLEGATIONS LETTER AS WELL FOR YOUR REVIEW.

THANK YOU. YES MA'AM. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST INITIAL. MIDDLE INITIAL SL ATKINS. THANK YOU SIR. I WAS MOVING TOO FAST. THE CLERK. OH, YEAH. DEPUTY CITY CLERK. YOU CAN CHECK WITH HER AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. OH, LET'S GO TO 33. NO, 3435 PARKS AND REC. I HAVE A QUESTION. LOOK, I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU ALL ARE LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PROPERTY TAX? I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT DISCUSSION IS GOING TO BE A MINUTE. BASED UPON THE LAST

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DISCUSSION. SO I'M TRYING TO LIKE, MOVE US ALONG THESE NEXT 234 AND 35. THE APPLICANTS

[IV.34. P2024RZ-001-10 Rezoning Request for Property Located at 3156 Harris Drive from R-1A (Urban Residential) Zoning District to R-2 (Two- Family Dwelling) Zoning District with Concurrent Variance (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED)]

AREN'T HERE OR THERE IS. THAT'S NOT I THINK YOU'RE ON 12, RIGHT. IS HE ON 12? 3333. YOU'RE 34.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, MISS SMITH. THANK YOU. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3156 HARRIS DRIVE, CASE NUMBER P2024001-10. CASE TYPE IS A REZONING WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. FOR LOT WIDTH. THE APPLICANT IS BOBBY J. LEE JR. PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R1 A, WHICH IS OUR URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS R2, WHICH IS OUR TWO FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT. THEY ARE ASKING FOR A CONCURRENT VARIANCE IN THE TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE. FOR R2. THE MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE IS ACTUALLY 60FT, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION OF FIVE FEET TO TAKE THEM IN ON LOT FRONTAGE TO 55. THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 10,009FT■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

CONDITION NUMBER TWO NO ROOMING HOUSE OR BOARDING HOUSE IS ALLOWED. NO INDIVIDUAL LEASE ROOMS WILL BE ALLOWED. CONDITION NUMBER THREE. THERE WILL BE NO SUBLETTING ALLOWED. CONDITION NUMBER FOUR THERE SHALL BE 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS, SLEEPING QUARTERS PER FLOOR, DWELLING UNITS AND TWO BATHROOMS OR FULL BATHS AND HALF BATHS. IN CONDITION NUMBER FIVE SHALL MEET ALL INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES. TWO MEANS OF EGRESS PER FLOOR. CONDITION NUMBER SIX FINAL CONDITION. THERE SHALL BE ONE COMMON AREA AND OR LIVING AREA, LIVING ROOM AREA, LIVING AREA AND ONE KITCHEN PER DWELLING UNIT. SO THE INTENT IS FOR THIS TO BE USED AS TWO FAMILY DWELLING UNITS. NO BOARDING HOUSES. NO ROOMING HOUSES, JUST TWO FAMILY DWELLING UNIT. THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU CAN COME FORWARD. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT SIR, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? TODAY, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS BOBBY. I'M THE APPLICANT AGENT FOR AMERICAN PROPERTIES. MY EXPERTISE IS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACED WITH IN THE CURRENT HOUSING MARKET IS DELIVERING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHERE WE HAVE, WHICH HAS BEEN TOUCHED ON THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. WE ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE THE CURRENT ZONING TO ALLOW FOR TWO FAMILY HOME. THIS PROJECT WILL HELP YOU REACH YOUR KEY METRICS OF AFFORDABLE, DIVERSE AND AVAILABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THIS PROJECT IS MADE AFFORDABLE IS BY MAXIMIZING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE UNDER ROOF. DURING THIS ZONING MEETING WITH THE ZONING BOARD, WE DID AGREE TO THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT THAT WERE STATED BEFORE I DID NOT. WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THEY PUT IN THE MINIMUM OF 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS. WE ARE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING AND WE HAVE NOT MET WITH THE ARCHITECT SINCE THIS PROCESS BEGAN. BUT ALL OF THOSE ZONING REQUIREMENTS I THOUGHT WAS WOULD

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BE SPECIFIED IN THE BUILDING CODES. I JUST I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR, COULD YOU PUT THE CONDITIONS LIKE ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? THIS IS THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR THE CORNER OF WASHINGTON ROAD AND HARRIS HARRIS DRIVE. THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY A HOUSE THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT BURNED DOWN. YOU CAN STILL SEE THE REMNANTS OF THE HOUSE THERE ON THAT PHOTO, BUT THAT THAT DEBRIS HAS BEEN REMOVED. LET ME GO TO THE NEXT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO. THIS. MIGHT BE A LITTLE SLOW. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE REST OF MY SLIDES ARE MISSING THERE. WELL, OKAY. BRIEFLY. WHAT I'LL DO IS I DID HAVE THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE SITE PLAN. AND NO, THAT'S NOT IT. WITH THE CONSTRUCTION RENDERINGS. LET'S SEE. LET ME GO.

THAT'S WHAT I'M PUTTING. IN THE. I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET THOSE EMAILS OVER. BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. YES. I WAS ASKING THE STAFF IF THEY COULD PUT THE CONDITIONS BACK ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE. OKAY, THANKS.

SO FOR CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, NO WORRIES. CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, DIRECTOR SMITH. YES. DID I HEAR THE APPLICANT STATE THAT HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THE BEDROOM LIMITS? I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S AWARE OR NOT AWARE, BUT THESE CONDITIONS CAME STRAIGHT FROM THE MEETING MINUTES. AND WHEN WE PREPARED THE PRESENTATION, WE USE THE MINUTE MEETING MINUTES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THEM CORRECTLY. SO IF HE WAS ON THE MEETING, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT PROCESS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THE NUMBER OF BATHROOMS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION, IT SAYS TWO PER DWELLING UNIT. AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY OR A FULL AND A HALF. SO THE HALF IS FOR THIS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CONDITION WOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THOSE TWO. CORRECT. OKAY. SO FOR THAT ONE, THAT PARTICULAR CONDITION, MY CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS THAT TO ME, I THINK IT RENDERS THE PROPERTY FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW MOST PROPERTIES TODAY ARE BUILT, EVEN APARTMENTS, EVEN IF IT'S A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT, THEY MAY HAVE TWO FULL BATHROOMS. AND SO I WOULD NOT WANT THE APPLICANT TO BE AT ANY DISADVANTAGE IN TERMS OF THE MARKET, BECAUSE THE MARKET JUST DOESN'T BEAR THAT. I UNDERSTAND THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION. I THINK THAT I'M FULLY AWARE OF THE IMPETUS FOR IT, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL FLOOR PLAN HAD A MILLION BEDROOMS AND

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A MILLION BATHROOMS. AND I'M BEING A LITTLE FACETIOUS, BUT I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT IS NODDING HIS HEAD IN AGREEMENT. AND SO I THINK THAT THE IDEA WAS TO LIMIT THAT BECAUSE IT WAS BELIEVED THAT THAT FLOOR PLAN, LENT WAS LENDING ITSELF TO A ROOMING HOUSE. BUT I THINK TO LIMIT A THREE BEDROOM PROPERTY TO ONE FULL BATHROOM AND A HALF BATH MAKES THAT PROPERTY FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE AND IS NOT IN LINE WITH THE MARKET. AND SO I WOULD THEN ASK TO CHANGE THAT PARTICULAR CONDITION. BUT THE OTHER CONDITIONS I READ THOSE AND I'M FINE AND I KNOW WHY THEY'RE THERE. THANK YOU. IF I MAY, I, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT RESTRICTING THE TWO LEASES, ONE PER UNIT, TOOK CARE OF THE GROUP HOME CONCERN. AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WITH THE VERBIAGE. WE'RE NO GROUP HOMES ALLOWED. SO WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT JUST AS YOU SAID THE 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS, THAT WOULD BE A TINY HOUSE AND JUST WOULDN'T REALLY BE FUNCTIONAL. WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE DIDN'T CHANGE, DID IT? FOR SO IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A TINY HOUSE, I MEAN, I THINK YOUR ORIGINAL PLAN HAD SIX BEDROOMS. YES. SO YOU'RE SO IT WENT FROM SIX DOWN TO THREE. SO THE BEDROOMS WOULD THEN GET LARGER, CORRECT. YEAH. BUT WE HAD NO INTENTIONS OF CHANGING THE FLOOR PLAN. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR AS FAR AS THE FLOOR, BUT WE DID HAVE INTENTIONS TO MAXIMIZE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE UNDER ROOF. WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE A NICHE OF THE LARGER FAMILIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY SEEKING TO FIND HOMES FOR LEASE TO THAT HAVE MAYBE THEIR MOTHER OR FATHER LIVING WITH THEM. SO THESE TYPE OF HOMES ARE IN IN REQUEST RIGHT NOW. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, THE 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS. I JUST AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE MAXIMUM OF TWO BATHROOMS, WITH ONE BEING A FOOL AND THE OTHER BEING A HALF FOR A THREE BEDROOM UNIT. I THINK THAT IT IT PUTS THE APPLICANT AT A DISADVANTAGE WITH THE MARKET. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO MY QUESTION IS I WAS BLOWN WITH HOW MANY I KNOW YOU'RE PRESENTATION IS NOT COMING UP ALL THE WAY. HOW MANY BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS WE'RE LOOKING TO AS I SAID MAXIMIZE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND WE DID HAVE SIX BEDROOMS SIX BATHS. AGAIN, THIS IS STILL CONCEPTUAL.

BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AT THAT TIME. BUT THERE THERE HAS BEEN NO OTHER MEETINGS WITH THE ARCHITECT AS FAR AS THE FLOOR PLAN. OUR CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THE BUILDING WIDTH AND DEPTH TO FIT ON THE LOT. AND THAT WAS PART OF MY PRESENTATION. THIS THIS MISSING HERE FOR SOME REASON. YEAH. SO I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LONG IT'S A DEEP LOT. EXCUSE ME. IT'S A DEEP LOT. IT RUNS IT RUNS LONG. CORRECT. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE BUILDING A DUPLEX. YOU'RE WANTING TO BUILD A DUPLEX. SIX BEDROOMS, SIX BATHS FOR EACH ONE OF THE UNITS. WELL, CURRENTLY THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. AND AGAIN, WE DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE STARTED OUT WITH THAT. SO IN ORDER FOR TRANSPARENCY, THAT IS OUR INTENTIONS TO DO THE SIX BEDROOM, SIX BATH. BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE BUILDING CODES, THE PLANS WILL BE DESIGNED AT THAT POINT. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE YOU CONSIDERING? AT LEAST THREE BEDROOMS, THREE BEDROOMS AND THE WELL, THE CURRENT ZONING RIGHT NOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS SIX BEDROOM, SIX BATH THAT IT CAN BE BUILT RIGHT NOW. OUR WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS TRYING TO MAXIMIZE AND LOWER THE COST PER UNIT BY BUILDING TWO UNITS. SO BY STACKING THE UNITS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, WE COULDN'T PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THE UNIT UP TOP. UNIT ON THE BOTTOM. YES, MA'AM. WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR EACH UNIT AGAIN? YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALL STILL CONCEPTUAL, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS 1800 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH, 1800 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH FLOOR, WITH SIX BEDROOMS AND SIX BATHS. YES.

JUST KIND OF. I MEAN, JUST YOUR BEDROOM SIZE. WHAT IS IT? THEY'RE GOING TO BE YOUR STANDARD TEN BY TEN BEDROOM. YES, ROUGHLY ABOUT THAT. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE FOR LARGER FAMILY HOMES. THERE IS NO INTENTION OF DOING GROUP HOMES. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE REQUIREMENTS FOR GROUP HOMES. AS YOU CAN SEE WE WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THIS AND WE TO RESTRICT TO TWO LEASES PER UNIT I THINK WOULD ADDRESS THAT CONCERN. OKAY. I YIELD. COUNCIL

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MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. SO YOU ARE DOING A DUPLEX? YES MA'AM. PEOPLE ON TOP AND PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM. YES, MA'AM. AND IT'S 1800 SQUARE FEET. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THREE BEDROOMS AT THE BOTTOM. NO, WE. SO IT'S SIX BEDS. SIX BEDROOMS. YEAH. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THIS IS CONCEPTUAL AND ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE DESIGNED BASED ON CURRENT BUILDING CODES.

AGAIN THE ZONING RIGHT NOW ALLOWS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH SIX BEDROOMS, SIX BATH. SO LET ME LET ME SAY THIS. THAT. THE LOOK OF THAT. IS THE VISION THAT IS. AND WHERE IS THIS GOING TO BE BUILT ON THE CORNER OF HARRISON, I MEAN, HARRIS DRIVE AND WASHINGTON ROAD NEAR THE PIGGLY WIGGLY. HARRIS DRIVE, WHERE THE OLD PIGGLY WIGGLY WAS. HARRIS DRIVE IN WASHINGTON ROAD.

WAIT A MINUTE. BEHIND PIGGLY WIGGLY. EXACTLY. THERE'S NO PIGGLY WIGGLY ON. WASHINGTON ROAD. HARRIS DRIVE, WASHINGTON ROAD, AND HARRIS DRIVE. WASHINGTON ROAD, THE PIGGLY WIGGLY I'M THINKING ABOUT IS ON WASHINGTON ROAD NEAR THE APARTMENTS. OH, WAIT, THAT'S WHAT THEY. OH, NO. WHAT WHAT WHAT IS YOUR YOUR CONCERN? NO, THAT'S WHAT WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN? BECAUSE THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS THAT THAT STRUCTURE DON'T EVEN FIT. MA'AM.

WHAT'S. WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. WHAT'S ALREADY THERE THAT IS NOT EVEN COMPATIBLE TO THE HOUSES THAT'S ALREADY THERE. OH. WOW. THERE. THERE ARE DUPLEXES IN THE AREA. AND WITHOUT ME BEING ABLE TO SHOW YOU IT ACROSS THE STREET IS A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY HOME, A COMPLEX. ON TOP OF. EACH OTHER.

NOT LIKE THAT, NOT LIKE THIS. IT'S STILL NOT COMING. I NEED TO SOMEHOW GET THIS WHERE I CAN GET THIS PULLED UP. ANY PLAN IS APPROVED. IT. ANY ANYTHING THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR. MA'AM. I ASSURE YOU IT IS. IT'S NOT AS BAD AS YOU THINK. OH, WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? THIS. IS.

GOING TO BE.

THIS.

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IS. SUPPOSED. TO.

I THINK YOU THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO. YEAH. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR IT TO BE THAT ZONING EITHER. THAT'S NOT EVEN THE RIGHT ZONING FOR. THIS. THIS IS.

THIS. IS.

TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN. DURING THE ZONING MEETINGS, WE DID GO THROUGH THIS. AND THE REASON THEY ALLOWED IT TO GO THROUGH WAS NOT BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING DESIGN OR ANYTHING. IT WAS BECAUSE WE PUT IN THE CONDITIONS OF ONE ONE LEASE PER FLOOR. AND AS SOON AS I PULL UP THE. PER FLOOR PER UNIT. YEAH, PER FLOOR. THERE'S ONE UNIT ON THE BOTTOM LEVEL AND ONE UNIT ON THE TOP LEVEL. YEAH, THE LOT IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR SIDE BY SIDE. NOTHING RIGHT NOW. YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE ATTORNEY STEPPED OUT. I'M NOT SURE WHO TO DIRECT MY QUESTION TO, BUT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS I BELIEVE IT'S CONDITION NUMBER THREE THAT SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, SUBLEASING WAS NOT ALLOWED. I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW WOULD WE ENFORCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? LIKE, HOW WOULD WE EVER KNOW WHAT THE YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OWNER WAS DOING OR WHO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE RENTING THE SPACE OUT TO? I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD BE ENFORCED. FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING PERSPECTIVE OR, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE. I MEAN, TEAMWORK, AS LONG AS THEY HAD TWO MEETINGS, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO REGULATE. SO PLEASE. YOU KNOW, HOW WE COULD REGULATE SUBLEASING, MISS SMITH? SIR. THERE IT IS. YEAH. I'M SORRY. IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE REGULATING IT, BUT WHEN THEY GET CAUGHT, THE POLICIES IN PLACE AND THEN THEY'LL GET CITED. BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS WOULD COME. IT'S LIKE A SAFETY VALVE. SO I, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE SIX BEDROOMS ON EACH FLOOR. EXCUSE ME. IN EACH UNIT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S SIX BEDROOMS IN EACH UNIT? YES. PER FLOOR. SO HOW MANY? HOW MANY FAMILIES WOULD YOU BE EXPECTING TO HOUSE IN EACH UNIT? ONE FAMILY. ONE FAMILY. RIGHT. AND CURRENTLY THERE'S NO LARGE HOMES AVAILABLE WITH 5 OR 4, FIVE OR MORE BEDROOMS. THERE'S ONLY ONE AVAILABLE IN EAST POINT. AND THERE'S A DEFINITE NEED FOR THESE TYPES OF HOMES, ESPECIALLY

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WITH THE LARGE FAMILIES AND WITH WITH THE PROBLEM WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HAVE TO MOVE THEIR MOTHER AND FATHER'S IN THE HOME. SO THAT THAT IS THE NICHE THAT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO REACH. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET IN THE GROUP HOME MARKET. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SUBLEASE THE PROPERTY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND MAKE THAT THAT HOUSING AFFORDABLE. AND OBVIOUSLY MY FILE HAS BEEN CORRUPTED SOMEHOW, BUT I DO HAVE ON MY IPAD, I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE ACTUAL FLOOR PLAN THAT WILL HELP YOU OUT, THE RENDERING, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T. OKAY, THANK YOU THOUGH IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. OKAY. I THINK THE HEARTBURN, EVERY TIME I HEAR IT, I'M LIKE, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT. IT'S SIX, SIX BEDROOMS, SIX BATHS AND AGAIN, WE CAN ADJUST THAT. WE CAN DO SOME BECAUSE I THERE WAS MENTION OF DOING SHARED BATHS THAT JACK AND JILL THIS HOUSE SIR THAT SOUNDS LIKE A THAT SOUNDED LIKE A ROOMING HOUSE. WE HAVE ALREADY AGREED AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN STIPULATED THAT NO GROUP HOMES ARE ALLOWED, AND WE CONTINUE TO BE CHANNELED DOWN AN AVENUE THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO. NO. AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE FACT THAT THAT WAS A PART OF THE INITIAL CONCEPT IS WHAT IS FOR ME, THE CHALLENGE WAS THAT I SEE WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE, AND THIS DOESN'T PERMIT THAT. AND I GET THAT. MY QUESTION IS HOW LARGE IS THIS LOT? BECAUSE IT LOOKS VERY LARGE. IT'S ABOUT TWO MILES. IT LOOKS LIKE I MEAN, IT LOOKS DEEP. IT MAY NOT BE WIDE, BUT IT'S PRETTY DEEP. WELL, EXCUSE ME, DOES THIS ALLOW HIM TO BUILD ANOTHER UNIT ON THIS LOT? NO. THIS ONE. OKAY. AND IT'S ABOUT A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, ABOUT 10,000. NICE. IF YOU IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO ONE OF THE HOUSES YOU HAVE ON HERE. LIKE THAT RIGHT THERE, IF, IF I CAN GET EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE HOUSE, INSTEAD OF THAT BEING A SINGLE FAMILY, WE BASICALLY MAKING THAT A TWO FAMILY HOME WITH ONE LEVEL ON THE BOTTOM AND ONE LEVEL ON THE TOP. DO YOU HAVE AS PART OF YOUR EXAMPLES THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD, THAT THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE, STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER? YES, MA'AM. AND THERE'S OTHER DUPLEXES AND QUADPLEXES IN THE AREA. SO FOR ME AND THEY LOOK REALLY BAD. I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY START BUILDING HOUSES LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT. BUT FOR ME, THE SIX BEDROOMS PER HOUSE PER UNIT WITH FOUR BATHROOMS, THAT IS A ROOMING HOUSE. YES, BUT BUT BUT YOU CAN SAY YOU'RE NOT. BUT WHY DO EACH BEDROOM HAVE TO HAVE A FULL BATHROOM? NO, THE CONDITIONS DON'T ALLOW THAT. NO, BUT THE CONDITION. BUT ONE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO A FULL BATHROOM AND A HALF BATHROOM, AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO DO A FULL TWO FULL BATHROOMS OR THREE FULL BATHROOMS. I THIS I HAD. SO HERE'S, HERE'S HERE'S THE HEARTBURN I'M HAVING HERE AGAIN.

WE'RE HERE. I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. THIS IS WHAT I GOT. NO NOTICE, NO PHONE CALLS, NO NOTHING. NOTHING. SO I I'M THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS WHERE HIS STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO NOTIFYING COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN THIS IS THEIR WARDS, THEIR AREAS. I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS. I'M NOT KNOW IF I CAN. THE SIX BEDROOMS. WHAT HAVE WHAT WHAT OTHER WHAT OTHER AREA HAVE YOU BUILT IN? I PARTICULARLY MYSELF, I'VE BUILT ALL OVER GEORGIA. THE PROPERTY, AMERICAN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. THEY HAVE PROPERTIES ALL OVER GEORGIA AND FLORIDA. SO WHERE WHERE HAVE YOU WHERE HAVE THEY BUILT IN THE ATLANTA COMMUNITY? I CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT

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I CAN FIND OUT. BUT THEY DO HAVE PROPERTIES IN EASTPOINT. THEY DIDN'T BUILD THOSE, BUT THEY THEY MANAGE THIS. EXCUSE ME, ARE THEY BUILT LIKE THIS? THEY THEY DIDN'T BUILD ANY OF THOSE HOUSES. THEY PURCHASED THEM. BUT THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THIS. NO THEY DON'T. AND IF THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. OKAY, IF I CAN ADDRESS ONE THING, THERE WAS ALMOST AN HOUR CONVERSATION OF ABOUT DIVERSE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINT. WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE UNDER ROOF. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE AMOUNT OF BATHROOMS, THE BUILDING CODE SHOULD ADJUST THAT. IF THE BUILDING CODES DON'T ADJUST THAT, THEN WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT HERE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THAT STIPULATION NEEDS TO PUT IN THERE. WE'RE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ADVERSELY AFFECT THIS COMMUNITY. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE SPENT ALL NIGHT TALKING ABOUT. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO HERE'S THE THING. THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT DIVERSE HOUSING WAS BASED ON THEM MEETING WITH A FEW PEOPLE AND A FEW BUSINESS OWNERS AND LIKE NOT INCLUDING MORE PEOPLE, BECAUSE HE STOOD UP THERE AND SAID, OH, I DIDN'T NEED TO TALK TO ANY MORE PEOPLE. IT WOULDN'T IT BASICALLY WOULDN'T HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE. WELL, YES, IT WOULD HAVE, BECAUSE THEN EVERYBODY CAN CAN GIVE THEIR VISION AND THEIR IDEAS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THE, IN, IN, IN A CITY THAT THEY PAY TAXES IN, IN A CITY THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN. AND FOR ME, I'M JUST NOT THAT I, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE WHAT THE COMPANY HAS BUILT IN AROUND THE CITY AND AROUND EASTPOINT. AND AGAIN, I SHOULDN'T THAT THAT THIS SHOULDN'T, I SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS WHAT A. JUST JUST FOR REFERENCE AND TRANSPARENCY STAFF DIDN'T LEARN ABOUT THE SIX BEDROOMS AND SIX BATHROOMS UNTIL WE WERE ACTUALLY AT PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS WAS NOT DISCUSSED IN ANY OF THE PREAPPLICATION MEETINGS, ANY OF THE PRE MEETINGS. IT CAME TO US AS A SIMPLY A REZONING FOR TWO FAMILY HOMES. SO WE AND AT THAT POINT WE HAD ALREADY WRITTEN THE STAFF REPORT AND WE JUST DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT THE SIX BEDROOMS AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE'RE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAGE. IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT. WE I USE THE SAME PRESENTATION FROM DAY ONE. I CONTINUOUSLY SHOWED THE FLOOR PLAN, I SHOWED THE ELEVATIONS. AND THEN ALSO I MENTIONED THAT THOSE PLANS WERE CONCEPTUAL. THE ARCHITECT HAS TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE FINALIZED PLANS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH WITH WHAT YOU WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, BUT TO GO TO 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS IS, IS NOT EVEN DOESN'T, IS NOT EVEN FEASIBLE. AS FAR AS THE MEETING THAT THE TOPIC THAT WAS DISCUSSED TONIGHT ABOUT DIVERSITY. IT WAS NOT THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. HE WERE GIVING YOU IDEAS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT THE CITY OF EASTPOINT NEEDS AS FAR AS HOUSING. THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE CHECKS OFF ALL THE BOXES AND I DON'T I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A HOUSE IN A PRESENTATION. THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BUILDING. THAT THAT HOUSE RIGHT THERE IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT WE'RE BUILDING EXCEPT FOR THEY HAVE A HIP ROOF AND A DORMER ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. DID YOU JUST SAY YOU CAN'T BUILD A 2 OR 3 BEDROOM? NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. I JUST SAID IT WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLE TO BUILD A 2 TO 3 BEDROOM HOUSE FOR A HOUSE THAT SIZE. OH, YOU MEAN LIKE, THE HOUSE IS VERY DEEP, BUT JUST LIKE A ONE? OH, YEAH.

THE HOUSE IS VERY DEEP. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, CURRENT ZONING RIGHT NOW WOULD ALLOW FOR A SIX BEDROOM, SIX BATH HOME. AND AGAIN, IF THIS IS A TOPIC THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF HASH OUT, WE CAN HASH THAT OUT RIGHT NOW. BUT I REALLY AGAIN LIKE I SAID, IS THE ISSUE WAS ADDRESSED WITH THE NO GROUP HOMES ALLOWED ONE LEASE PER UNIT AND IT COVERED ALL OF THAT. SO THAT ALLOWS US TO PUT ONE FAMILY, ONE LEASE PER UNIT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS COUNCIL

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MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO LET ME MAKE SURE HE YOU'RE HE'S REQUESTING THAT THIS GO FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO THE MULTI FAMILY WITH THE TWO UNITS. CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THE I GUESS LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT CAN GO IN THIS AREA. CORRECT. WE ASK THAT QUESTION. SO THAT IS WHAT CAN GO IN THIS AREA IF HE ASKS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S LIKE REZONE. IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY REZONED FOR AND A MULTIFAMILY. CAN MULTIFAMILY GO THERE. RIGHT.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. IS IT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S NOT GOING TO HE'S TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS. SO AND MY QUESTION IS BUT THEY HAVE MULTIFAMILY ACROSS THE STREET. YES. YES, THEY LIKELY DO. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE AUTOMATICALLY GETS IT. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED OKAY. THEY COULD HAVE IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT ZONING. AS LONG AS YOU DO THE MATH TO EVEN SEE WHAT THE ZONING IS FOR THE OTHER SURROUNDING LOT. SO THAT THE OTHER LOOKS LIKE IT IS MODERN FAMILY. SO THERE IS APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THERE IS ALSO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. AND YOURS. OKAY. SO HE'S YOU'RE THE GREEN ON THE CORNER WITH THE LITTLE OUTLINE. THE BLUE ON THE CORNER. OKAY. AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET IS WHERE YOU SAW THOSE APARTMENTS IN THAT PICTURE. RIGHT. AND THE YELLOW THAT'S THE. YES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. YELLOW IN BETWEEN. IN BETWEEN AT THE TOP. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS. APARTMENTS.

APARTMENTS. THOSE ARE APARTMENTS AS WELL. RIGHT. SO HE WOULD HAVE TO TURN YELLOW WHEN YOU TURN.

ARE TWO OPPOSED TO. OUR CITY. YEAH. IT'S LIKE A YELLOW HOUSE. IS IT THE SAME. IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THAT. BUT IT IS A. THIRD COLOR. OKAY. IN THIS ON THIS CORNER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. OKAY AS YOU SEE IT NOW IS ALL REMAINING. SHE IS. AND OUR THREE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT HE'S ASKING. HE'S ACTUALLY ASKING FOR R2. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WHICH IS A LOWER DENSITY. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE THREE BUT HIGHER THAN R1 EIGHT. SO TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT CAN R2 GO THERE? NOT WITHOUT A REASON OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I JUST NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I JUST KNOW THAT THE APARTMENTS WERE ACROSS THE STREET. BUT WHEN THIS MAP CAME UP. SO THAT KIND OF SHOWED WHAT WHAT'S THERE? WHATEVER I THOUGHT IT WAS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I YIELD. HI AGAIN. SO WITH THIS BEING A DUPLEX PLUS I, YOU KNOW, IT'S MULTI-GENERATION FAMILY. SO THAT TO ME SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ADULTS THERE. AND WITH THIS BEING A VERY NARROW AND LONG PLOT OF LAND, I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD PARK THEIR CAR. WE HAVE OFF ROAD PARKING THAT'S ON THE SITE PLAN. I CAN MAKE SURE I EMAIL THIS TO ALL OF YOU AND YOU'LL HAVE IT TOMORROW. BUT THE SITE PLAN DOES ALLOW FOR PARKING SPACES ON THE REAR. AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY DEEP LOT AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE IS THAT IT IS A DEEP LOT. OKAY. AND SO THERE WOULD BE A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES TO THE BACK AND THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE WOULD PARK. YES. CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YES. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR KELLY, COULD YOU PUT THE CONDITIONS BACK ON THE SCREEN PLEASE. I WANTED TO GO BACK TO. MR. LAY. YOU'RE USING YOU CONTINUE TO USE THE WORD GROUP HOME. BUT I DON'T THINK GROUP HOME IS IN HERE AS A CONDITION IN TERMS OF A TERM OF ART, I THINK THAT IT'S NUMBER TWO. NO ROOMING HOUSES AND OR BOARDING HOUSES. BOARDING HOUSES. THAT'S WHAT I CONSIDERED. AND SO, MADAM ATTORNEY. YES? DO WE NEED FOR CONDITION NUMBER TWO? NO ROOMING HOUSE OR BOARDING HOUSE. MR. LAY CONTINUES TO USE THE WORD GROUP HOME. BUT THAT'S NOT A PART OF THE CONDITION. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER TYPE OF LIVING. I THINK IT'S CALLED, LIKE CO-LIVING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. DO WE NEED TO SORT OF ADD THAT AS A PART OF CONDITION NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM ROOMING HOUSE OR BOARDING HOUSE? I WOULD SAY YES. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEWER MODEL IN THE RESIDENTIAL WORLD THAT IS GEARED TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE BEING TURNED INTO SPACES WHERE EACH ROOM IS RENTED OUT. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S,

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YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT FROM TRADITIONAL RENTALS. AND THEY CALL THAT CO-LIVING. SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT ADDING LANGUAGE TO KIND OF COVER ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF MODELS. ROAMING GROUP CODES. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL ROOM LEASES, RIGHT. WOULD BE DISALLOWED AS TO NOT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE EACH ROOM AND BATHROOM BEING OCCUPIED BY A DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL WITH POTENTIALLY A SUBLEASE OR, OR LEASE. RIGHT, OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, AND THIS IS A PIGGYBACK ON COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER'S QUESTION. IF YOU PULL UP THE R-2 ZONING DISTRICT AND AS IT RELATES TO PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHAT DOES THE CODE SAY? GIVE ME A MOMENT. OR TWO. THE ZONING. LET'S GO TO ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS. ARE TWO.

SO YOU GOT SOME SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. HEATED FLOOR REQUIREMENTS.

I HAVEN'T FOUND IT YET. SO I'M LOOKING AT ART. UNLESS IT'S UNDER PARKING, IT'S NOT IN R-2. OKAY, SO I NEED TO GO TO A DIFFERENT CODE SECTION. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I. MAYBE CHAPTER THREE IS PARKING IN CHAPTER THREE. YOU KNOW THAT SHOULD BE ALREADY. OKAY. WELL HE FOUND IT TEN DAYS, 2155. ALL RIGHT. TEN 2155. OKAY. LET'S SEE. 65 OKAY. 55 SHARED PARKING IS GOING TO BE UNDER ARTICLE E OFF STREET AND LOADING. 2155 SO. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS REFERS TO RESIDENTIAL THOUGH. OKAY. GO DOWN TO 2150 9.1. SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS. THIS IS NOT SINGLE FAMILY. THIS IS MULTIFAMILY. WE TALK ABOUT THE APARTMENT DWELLING DISTRICT C1, C2.

0II1I2. I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE YOU'LL GET TO IS TEN DASH 2150 9.1 SUBSECTION C. THAT'S APARTMENT DWELLINGS BECAUSE THE OTHER DISTRICTS DON'T APPLY. I'M TRYING TO GET TO WHAT THE CODE WOULD STATE IN TERMS OF HOW MANY SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR PER BEDROOM FOR UNITS. SO THAT'S MORE OF A MULTI-FAMILY QUESTION. PROBABLY A HIGHER DENSITY. RIGHT. WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY WE'RE NOT SEEING IT FOR THE R-2. YEAH. BUT WE HAVE IT FOR SINGLE FAMILY. SO THAT'S I KNOW THAT WE HAVE IT FOR R3 BECAUSE MANY APPLICANTS COME BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR REDUCTION IN PARKING. EVEN IN THE TABLE. IT TALKS ABOUT OFFICE, RETAIL, HOTEL, RESTAURANT, ENTERTAINMENT. NOT RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. I DON'T THINK YOU REACH ANY OFF ROAD PARKING TO TILL YOU GET TO R3. I'M NOT 100% ON THAT. WELL, IN SINGLE FAMILY WE SAY SINGLE FAMILY. THE PARKING AND STORAGE OF VEHICLES SHALL BE PROHIBITED EXCEPT ON PARKING SPACES AS DEFINED IN ARTICLE EIGHT. I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THIS. YES, THIS IS ACTUALLY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEXES. IT'S TWO PER DWELLING UNIT. WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT? IT'S IN THE TABLE 2150 9.1 YES,

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MA'AM. IT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE I THINK TWO FOUR UNITS. WE HAVE FOUR UNITS OF PARKING IN THE REAR. OKAY. AND SO FOR ME THAT IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF CONDITION NUMBER FOUR TWO PER DWELLING UNIT, BECAUSE THAT IS REASONABLE FOR A 2 TO 3 BEDROOM UNIT. BUT IF WHEN YOU START TO GET INTO HIGHER BEDROOMS AND YOU CAN HAVE MORE ADULTS AND THEN YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH PARKING ON THE SITE. SO THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WHY I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF CONDITION NUMBER FOUR OF JUST 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS. AND IN TERMS OF BATHROOMS, TWO AND A HALF UP TO TWO AND A HALF BATHS FOR THAT. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET ME SAY THIS. THIS IS NOT PLANNING AND ZONING. THIS IS EAST POINT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO THEREFORE WE NEED TO START DOING THE BUSINESS OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND NOT NEGOTIATING WHAT COULD AND WHAT COULD NOT BE. THIS IS THE REASON WHY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS CITY THAT ARE NOT COMPATIBLE TO PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS AND THE ACTIONS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED. THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT IN TUNE TO WHAT IS ALREADY THERE. SO TO SIT HERE AND CONTINUE TO SAY, OH, I THINK THIS CONDITION WORKS. THAT CONDITION WORKED. WHAT ABOUT WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WAS NEXT DOOR TO YOU, YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT THERE. SO THESE PEOPLE DESERVE WHAT IS COMPATIBLE TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT TRYING TO CONTINUE TO DOWNGRADE OR DEGRADE WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. Y'ALL DON'T EVEN WANT TO FIX UP. WHAT IS THIS STREET BACKYARD? BUT YET YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO SIT HERE AND NEGOTIATE WHAT IS BEST FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN IT'S WHEN THE PEOPLE HERE ARE SAYING NO. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S. AGAIN, THE STANDARD AND THE QUALITY DOES NOT FIT WITH WHAT'S THERE. IT CAN GO TO THE AGENDA AND IT CAN BE VOTED UP OR DOWN. THANK YOU AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE. WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT THE PUBLIC HAD ACCESS TO. WE WERE EVEN DEFERRED AND WE WENT BACK. NEVER WAS THE BUILDING AN ISSUE. AND THE ONLY REASON I CONTINUED TO USE GROUP HOME AS AN ISSUE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SUBJECT TO CONTINUE TO COME UP. WE WERE PUSHED DOWN A ROAD THAT WE FELT LIKE WE DIDN'T DESERVE TO BE PUSHED DOWN. BUT AGAIN, THE CONDITIONS ARE ADDRESSED HERE AND IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OTHER THAN TO BRING VALUE TO THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. AND I THINK DURING THE TIME OF YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT CHECKS OFF A LOT OF THOSE BOXES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN EAST POINT FOR DIVERSITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. COUNCIL MEMBER ADKINS, ATTORNEY. WILLIAMS. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD. I DO NOT. KNOW. OH. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. AND I'LL I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS COPIES OF THE SITE PLAN AND THE ACTUAL HOUSE. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, ITEM

[IV.35. Ordinance for Case #P2024RZ-002-11 at 0 Norman Berry Drive Rezoning Request From M-I ( Medical Institutional) to E-I (Educational Institutional) Zoning District PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED]

NUMBER 35. WE HAVE. YOU SAID NUMBER 35. YES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST DISCUSSING WITH DIRECTOR SMITH. LET'S GO TO THE. WHO. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, THOUGH, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY, SO WE JUST AGENDA TALK. Y'ALL TALKING TO HIM OR. YES. SO

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STAFF WILL HAVE TO UPDATE HIM THAT THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE APPLICATION PURSUANT TO THE MORATORIUM WOULD HAVE BEEN NULL AND VOID. SECTION F, SECTION SUBSECTION F OF SECTION TWO OF THE MORATORIUM THAT WAS PASSED BY THIS BODY IN OCTOBER SAYS THAT NO APPLICATIONS FOR REZONING, BUILDING PERMITS OR USE PERMITS IN M-1 WILL BE ACCEPTED BY ANY AGENT, EMPLOYEE, OR OFFICER OF THE CITY. SHOULD ANY BE SO ACCEPTED FOR FILING, IT WILL BE DEEMED IN ERROR, NULL AND VOID, AND IN NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER, AND SHALL CONSTITUTE NO ASSURANCE WHATSOEVER OF ANY RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN ANY ACT AND ANY ACTION IN RELIANCE ON ANY SUCH LICENSE OR PERMIT SHALL BE UNREASONABLE. AND SO IT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE. REMOVED. EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT, MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF. BUT THIS ONE WILL BE REMOVED. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER.

YES, MA'AM. YOU SAID THERE'S 35. ON WHAT? ON M-1 ON M-1 REZONINGS USE PERMITS. BUILDING PERMITS? OH, WE HAVE A ON A MEDICAL INSTITUTION. CORRECT. SOMEONE'S TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR SOMETHING FROM M-1. THE REQUEST WAS FROM M-1 TO I. WHAT IS E I EDUCATIONAL, INSTITUTIONAL. AND WHERE IS THIS 35? LET ME FIND OUT. ZERO NORMAN BERRY DRIVE. YES IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY, BUT I KNOW IT'S IN M-1. IT'S NOT THE HOSPITAL, BUT IT'S. BUT IT IS ON M-1. IS IT ADJACENT TO THE HOSPITAL? ZERO NORMAN BERRY MAYBE IT'S THAT. WHAT'S THE LOCATION? OH BY NORMAN BERRY VILLAGE. IT'S BY NORMAN BERRY VILLAGE. WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY? THAT MAN RIGHT THERE. I'M SORRY. THE GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE. OH, HE OWNS THE PROPERTY. OKAY, OKAY. SO. LET'S

[III.10. Planning and Zoning Ordinance Rewrite Status]

ZONING CODE REWRITE. REALLY QUICK UPDATE AND THEN PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF CAN GO. WE WILL THEN DEAL WITH THE 518 WHATEVER WHATEVER THE HOUSE BILL 581 COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I PLACED THIS ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA BECAUSE A FEW ISSUES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. MY MAIN CONCERN FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING RECITE WAS NOTIFICATION OF RESIDENTS WHEN ZONING OCCURS. BUT HOWEVER HOWEVER, AFTER WE HAD THAT INITIAL FIRST MEETING, THERE WAS AGAIN, THERE WERE STILL ISSUES RELATED TO OUR REZONING AND ON THE SUBJECT MATTER OF ZONING, REWRITE IS NECESSARY DUE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS THAT IMPACT RESIDENTS. I'D LIKE FOR THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK TO PULL UP A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED BACK IN JULY 2024 FROM OUR ATTORNEY, IN WHICH SHE GAVE US RECOMMENDATIONS NO. CANNOT PULL UP. OKAY, WELL, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION FROM ATTORNEY BARNES THAT WE, IN FACT, DO NEED A ZONING REWRITE. A COUPLE OF OPTIONS, AND SHE GAVE US SOME OPTIONS, AND SHE GAVE US SOME OPTIONS FOR THAT ZONING REWRITE. BUT I DO KNOW THAT I WOULD LIKE THE REWRITE TO INCLUDE DISTANCE NOTIFICATION INCREASES. I BELIEVE THAT DIRECTOR SMITH DID LET US LOOK AT A MAP THAT SHOWED, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE GO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET FOR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW BUFFERS, REAL BUFFERS THAT PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY ZONING, AND ALSO SOME BUFFERS THAT INCLUDE SOME SORT OF SOUND PREVENTION AND BARRIERS. THE MAIN CONCERN WAS IF A PROPERTY ISN'T DEVELOPED WITHIN 5 TO 7 YEARS, THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO COME BACK THROUGH OUR PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESS. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, SOMETHING HAPPENED NEAR COMMUNITY IN WARD D WHERE THE PERSON PURCHASED THE PROPERTY OVER 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THEN CAME BACK AND WANTED TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. BUT DUE TO THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAD IN PLACE, THEY WEREN'T MADE TO COME BACK BEFORE A COUNCIL OR GO THROUGH