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STARTED, PLEASE. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL ROLL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DID WE SAY THAT THIS IS THE JANUARY 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. WELL, OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR HER SAY IT. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER FIELDS, MARK FIELDS HERE. COMMISSIONER MILLER. COMMISSIONER. STILES, PRESENT. COMMISSIONER JOEL PRESLEY. COMMISSIONER. ANDERSON. HERE. COMMISSIONER. CHAPMAN.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER. JOSEPH FIELDS. HERE. AND, COMMISSIONER LEVITT. YOU HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. THANK YOU. IF WE CAN PUT THE AGENDA ON THE SCREEN. PERFECT. THANK YOU. DOCTOR. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CALL OF ORDER IN THE ROLL CALL OF COMMISSIONERS, AND NOW WE WILL
[III. Old Business]
ASK DIRECTOR SMITH IF THERE IS ANY OLD BUSINESS. THE OLD BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE IS FOR YOU ALL TO APPROVE YOUR DECEMBER MEETING MINUTES. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. THAT WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER FIELDS.JOSEPH FIELDS. AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSES. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SMITH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR
[IV.1. P2024RZ-001-12]
FIRST CASE? THANK YOU. IN REFERENCE TO NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER ONE, CASE NUMBER P2024 RC DASH 001. DASH ONE TWO. THE APPLICANT IS CODY SNYDER. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ZERO EAST WOODBURY AVENUE. CASE TYPE IS A REZONING. THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WITHDRAWAL. OF. WE'LL WAIT FOR ATTORNEY WIGGINS. ATTORNEY WIGGINS, THE APPLICANT IS WITHDRAWING. CASE NUMBER P2024RZ-001. DASH ONE TWO. DO WE NEED A MOTION OR DO WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? ACTUALLY, MADAM CHAIR, WHAT WE FIRST NEED FOR YOU TO DO IS READ THE RULES OF PUBLIC HEARING. BECAUSE THIS WITHDRAWAL CAME AFTER THE ADVERTISEMENT. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEE IF ANYONE'S HERE. AND THEN YOU'LL CLOSE IT. AND THEN YOU CAN GET A MOTION FROM YOUR BOARD ON WHETHER TO HONOR THE WITHDRAWAL. BUT WE WILL NEED THE RULES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. READ FIRST. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND CAN WE HEAR THE RULES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? I DO NOT HAVE A COPY. NO PROBLEM. CHAIR. LET ME PULL THEM UP. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.I'LL TAKE. THAT. THANK YOU. I REALIZE THAT LATE THIS EVENING I DIDN'T HAVE A COPY, BUT THANK YOU.
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BEFORE ADOPTING ANY CHANGE TO THE ZONING MAPS OR THE TEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AS YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRIOR TO MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR VOTES ON VARIANCES TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE, WHO WE KNOW IS MRS. SMITH, WILL INTRODUCE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. STAFF WILL THEN BE CALLED UPON TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUMMARIZE THE STAFF'S REPORT. PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OR THE APPLICANT'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION. YOU MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS, PROVIDED THAT EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SPEAKER FOR A SIDE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER OTHER THAN THE ZONING APPLICANT. THE ZONING APPLICANT MAY RESERVE A PORTION OF HIS OR HER TIME ALLOTTED FOR REBUTTAL. SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING. EACH SPEAKER SHALL IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS. EACH SPEAKER SHALL SPEAK ONLY TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DECISION. UNDER CONSIDERATION SHALL ADDRESS REMARKS ONLY TO THE COMMISSION, AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS TO ANY OTHER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REFUSE THE SPEAKER THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE IF, AFTER FIRST BEING CAUTIONED, THE SPEAKER CONTINUES TO VIOLATE THE RULES OF DECORUM. MADAM CHAIR, YOU CAN CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR FIRST CASE. FOR OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN AND SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER MARK SHIELDS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. AYE. OPPOSES.MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, SINCE YOU DID GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, LET'S SEE IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST ZERO EIGHT WOODBURY AVENUE. AND THE APPLICATION IS FOR A REZONING. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE? JUST TO. FOR OR AGAINST. CASE NUMBER (202) 024-0001. DASH ONE TWO AND ZERO TWO. THIS WOULD NEVER. BE HERE FOR ORDINANCE. NO ONE IS HERE. I THINK THAT IT WILL BE APPROPRIATE TO GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. SECOND. I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER JOSEPH FIELDS. YES. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD. I OPPOSES THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. AND THEN. NOW, MADAM CHAIR GIVEN, I'LL LET MISS SMITH TALK ABOUT THE WITHDRAWAL. STAFF SUPPORTS THE REQUEST FOR THE WITHDRAWAL. THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A NEW APPLICATION, AND IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO THIS BODY NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO ASK THE BOARD IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF DIRECTOR SMITH ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. IS THAT APPROPRIATE? MADAM CHAIR, SO WHEN YOU GET YOUR MOTION AND YOUR SECOND, THEN YOU'LL CALL FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. AND THEN THAT WILL BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME. AT THIS TIME IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? LET'S GET A MOTION FIRST A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL. OKAY. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. SECOND. DO I GET A SECOND? COMMISSIONER FIELDS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION. NOW WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION, IF THERE ARE ANY. IS THERE IF THERE'S ANY? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. I THINK COMMISSIONER FIELDS SAYS HE HAS
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THE QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY. YES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT REASON DID THEY. DID THE APPLICANT GIVE TO WANT TO WITHDRAW THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE? WHAT INFORMATION IS HE PLANNING TO BRING FORTH TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE? THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A REZONING REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MXS II. AND IT WAS HIS INTENT TO REQUEST A REZONING OF MXS PSI. SO HE WANTS TO GO TO COMMERCIAL MIXED USE. COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER FIELDS, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU. MAY WE GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL? MADAM CHAIR, YOU ALREADY HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSES. NO, OPPOSES. THE MOTION PASSES. SO WE ARE WITHDRAWING.[IV.2. P2024U-001-12]
P2024RZ-001. DASH ONE TWO. DIRECTOR SMITH, THE NEXT CASE, PLEASE. THE NEXT ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER TWO. CASE NUMBER P20242. DASH 001. DASH ONE TWO. THE APPLICANT IS NEIL MORRISON. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1388 WADLEY AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE PERMIT FOR A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE PURSUANT TO SECTION TEN DASH 2130. CASE TYPE IS A USE PERMIT. THANK YOU. DO WE NOW CALL FOR THE APPLICANT MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I MOVE, WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND.SECOND. THANK YOU. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSES NO, OPPOSES. THE MOTION PASSES. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? 1388 WHATLEY AVENUE. PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. THE PRESENTATION. DO YOU MEAN MY PRESENT? YEAH, I SENT IT TO YOU IN THE. YOU MAY NOW STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. NEIL MORRISON ADDRESSES 1388 WADLEY AVENUE. THANK YOU. AND YOU MAY GO INTO YOUR CASE. YOU MAY PRESENT. JUST ONE SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. SO. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU. SO THIS CASE IS FOR 1388 WADLEY AVENUE. IT'S A USE PERMIT FOR A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ESTABLISH A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE R1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTY. AND. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. I'M SORRY. YOU MAY. YOU MAY LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO PRESENT HIS CASE. YES.
ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL UP THE SLIDE SHOW ACCESS TO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL. GOOD EVENING. YES.
SO I AM APPLYING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ADD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. THIS IS MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE. I HAVE A DETACHED GARAGE ON MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE. I AM APPLYING. I'M SORRY. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? I DID, BUT I'LL STATE IT AGAIN. NEIL MORRISON.
MY ADDRESS IS 1388 WADLEY AVENUE, EAST POINT. THE APPLICATION IS FOR SPECIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY HABITABLE, HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. BASICALLY A CARRIAGE UNIT ON THE TOP OF MY DETACHED GARAGE. THANK YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNIT IS 365FT■!S. THAT'S FOR THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. THE PRIMARY HOUSE
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IS 1930 ONE SQUARE FEET. THE HEIGHT OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS 25. MAYBE 27FT. AND THE HEIGHT OF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WILL NOT EXCEED 22FT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE I NEED TO TOUCH ON, BUT. OKAY, SO WHAT WE'LL DO AT THIS POINT, I THINK SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET THE PRESENTATION. WE'RE PULLING IT UP. OH, GREAT. THANK YOU. SO DO WE WANT TO JUST PAUSE? WE CAN JUST PAUSE UNTIL THEY COME BACK WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. THAT WILL BE THE FAIR THING TO DO.THANK YOU. WHATEVER. WHATEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO GET THIS PRESENTATION? COMPLETED? CAN YOU EMAIL IT, SIR? I SWEAR TO GOD, YOU.
YOU CAN SEE IT. THE NEXT LEVEL OF.
ASSISTANCE. I THINK YOU. SHE HAS. SHE HAS 30S. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KEEP ASKING. FOR.
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OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO START FROM THE BEGINNING, CERTAINLY. FEEL FREE TO DO THAT IF THAT GETS YOU BACK ON TRACK. SURE. THANK YOU. JUST. CLICK IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. SO AS WE TALKED WE TALKED ABOUT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. SPECIAL USE REQUEST 1388 WADLEY AVENUE. MY NAME IS NEIL MORRISON. MY MYSELF AND MY WIFE LIVE AT 1388 WADLEY. THAT'S OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE. NEXT SLIDE.IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 1930 ONE SQUARE FEET. IT'S GOT A DETACHED GARAGE. NEXT SLIDE. THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS 1930 ONE SQUARE FEET. THERE WE GO. THE, THE IN THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS 25FT ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL. THE INTENDED ADU WILL SIT ATOP OF THE EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE. THE EXISTING GARAGE IS 201FT■!S AND TEN FOOT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL. THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED ADU STRUCTURE WILL BE 22FT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE ADU IS 365FT■!S. AND THE ARE CURRENTLY DEDICATED PARKING SPACES FOR THE ADU. NEXT SLIDE.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN IS A SITE PLAN FOR THE SHOWING THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE. AT THE CENTER AND TO THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE THE PLAN VIEW OF THE DETACHED GARAGE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION OF WHAT THE DETACHED GARAGE AND ADU WILL LOOK LIKE.
THE GARAGE IS EXISTING. THE ADU ON TOP OF IT IS NOT. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST THE NOTIFICATION OF THE MAILERS THAT THAT WE SENT OUT. AS REQUIRED. ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I DO, COVID-19. OKAY. COMMISSION CHAIRMAN. YES. CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM AGAIN THE HEIGHT? THE TOTAL HEIGHT WITH THE. GARAGE AND THEN WITH THE ADU. THE TOTAL HEIGHT. RIGHT. YOUR YOUR YOUR MOCK UPS HERE. I CAN'T SEE THE NUMBERS ON THIS. DOES THAT BLOW UP ON THAT RIGHT SIDE THERE? OKAY. EXCUSE ME. GO BACK TO THE OTHER SPOT. OKAY.
BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CURRENTLY. AND I'M LOOKING AT THE PLAN THAT THAT WE SHOWED. BUT CURRENTLY THE CLEARANCE. SO WHEN I GO TO MY GARAGE AND I OPEN THE GARAGE DOOR TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CEILING STRUCTURE IS SEVEN FOOT. I'M ACCOUNTING FOR. TWO FEET FOR THE FOR THE CEILING STRUCTURE. THE EXISTING CEILING STRUCTURE IN THE NEW CEILING STRUCTURE FOR THE ADU. SO THAT'S SEVEN PLUS TWO IS NINE. THE ADU ITSELF HAS A EIGHT FOOT CEILING HEIGHT WITHIN IT. SO THAT'S 16FT. AND THEN THE ROOF WILL HAVE A THERE'S A PITCH SHOWN OF. FOUR
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OVER 12. NO. THE 12 FOUR. SO THE FOUR FOOT ELEVATION FOR THE ROOF ON TOP OF THE 16 IS 20FT. SO THE IN THE LETTER, THE LETTER OF INTENT, I STATE THAT THE ADU STRUCTURE WILL BE 22FT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL. IT WILL ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BELOW THAT. BUT IT WON'T IT WON'T COME CLOSE TO THE EXISTING PRIMARY HOUSE STRUCTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING BECAUSE UNDER THIS IT SAYS THE IT SHOULDN'T EXCEED 35FT IN HEIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO MANAGE YOUR EXPECTATIONS WHEN YOU START TO BUILD THE UNIT. UNDERSTOOD. IF WE AGREE.THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I SEE ANOTHER RED LIGHT? THANK YOU. SO THAT ENDS THE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THIS OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? IS THERE ANYONE HERE? OKAY. SO YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO CALL. ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSING TO THIS PROJECT? IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? HERE? AND NOW? WE WILL NOW CLOSE. MOTION TO CLOSE. COMMISSIONERS, MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. MARK FIELDS. A PUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. AND. COMMISSIONER.
ANDERSON. SECOND. THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. AYE.
OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, THE MOTION PASSES.
STAFF, WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? MADAM CHAIR? IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
DIRECTOR SMITH. MADAM. MADAM CHAIR, IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. CASE NUMBER P 224U.
001-12. THE APPLICANT, NEIL MORRISON. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1388 WHATELY AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE PERMIT FOR HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE PURSUANT TO SECTION TEN DASH 2130. CASE TYPE IS A USE PERMIT. STAFF. RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE HEARD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE FOR SECOND. YES, SECOND. COMMISSIONER PHIL SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. AYE. OPPOSES. THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES. NOW, YOUR APPLICATION WILL GO TO CITY. YOUR APPLICATION WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE NEXT STEP. BUT THE COMMISSION IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. NOTIFY US THAT THIS.
IS GOING TO PLAY. OUT. YOU'LL DO THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE EXCUSED. YES. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR SMITH. MAY WE. MAY WE
[IV.3. P2024V-002-11]
HEAR THE NEXT CASE? YES, MADAM CHAIR, IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS CASE NUMBER P2024V-002-11. THE APPLICANT, RICHARD WINFREY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2627 BEN HILL AVENUE. APPLICANT IS SEEKING A VARIANCE FROM THE CURRENT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION TEN DASH 2061 E TO MATCH THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT OF SURROUNDING HOMES. CASE TYPE IS A VARIANCE. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER.[00:30:09]
P2024V-002. DASH 11. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSES MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 2P2024V-002. DASH 11. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES. YOU MAY COME FORWARD. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. YES. PRESENTATION. RICHARD WINFREY. OKAY. 2627 INDIO. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? YES.YOU MAY PRESENT. OKAY. IT'S LOCATED IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF WASHINGTON ROAD. THE PROPERTIES ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET, THEY ARE ACTUALLY RANCH HOMES AND OR SPLIT LEVEL HOMES THAT WERE TRADITIONALLY BRICK. YOU HAD SOME HOMES WITH SIDING. THE ZONING CURRENTLY THOSE HOMES WERE BUILT YEARS AND YEARS AGO. AND THE CURRENT ZONING IN THIS PARTICULAR LOT, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THE LOT HAS AN ODD SHAPE TO IT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT ZONING REQUIREMENTS FOR SETBACKS FRONT AND BACK, IT WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO BUILD ANYTHING THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT HOMES THAT ARE THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY. THERE WAS AN EXISTING RANCH HOME ON THAT PROPERTY AT ONE POINT. THAT WAS DEMOLISHED. TRYING TO PLACE A HOME ON THAT LOT. WITH THE CURRENT SETBACKS PUT US IN A SITUATION WHERE THE HOME WOULD TECHNICALLY, WELL, BASICALLY LOOK OUT OF PLACE. WITH THE EXISTING HOMES. SO ONCE WE STARTED TO DO OUR SURVEY TO MAKE SURE SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE AND ESTHETICS, WE SAW THAT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST FOR VARIANCE WOULD PUT THE HOME IN A SITUATION THAT WILL KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS. THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS LOT, WITH IT BEING AN ODD SHAPE. ALSO ALLOWS FOR THERE TO BE PLENTY OF ROOM ON THE SIDE SETBACKS. SO THERE WOULD BE MINIMUM INTERFERENCE WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT OF THE PROPERTY. THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO GET A VARIANCE ON ARE FRONT TO BACK. AND IT WILL ALLOW FOR US TO PUT A STRUCTURE THAT IS CONSISTENT ALSO WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS AROUND 1600 SQUARE FEET. WE WILL HAVE TO GO UP TWO STORIES TO MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS, BUT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT IS SHAPED MORE SIMILARLY TO THE HOUSES THAT ARE EXISTING. WE ALSO PROVIDED A PICTURE TO GO BACK. TO THE FOLDER. THE SECOND ONE. SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS NOT HAVE TO BUILD SOMETHING WITH THE ORIGINAL SETBACKS THAT ARE REQUIRED AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE HOUSE ON THE LEFT, WHICH DOES NOT AT ALL MATCH THE STREETSCAPE OF WHAT'S EXISTING. WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR PLAN TO DO SOME BRICK FRONT TO ALSO BRING
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THAT STRUCTURE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE SEE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PICTURE. YEAH. THIS IS A PICTURE GOING FURTHER DOWN THE STREET ON BEN HILL. THE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD WOULD LOOK SIMILAR TO THE FIRST STRUCTURE YOU SEE ON THE LEFT. THAT IS A SPLIT LEVEL. WE WILL GO UP TWO STORIES, BUT IT WILL HAVE SOME MATCHING TO THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES THAT WAS PLACED IN THAT SUBDIVISION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THAT ENDS YOUR PRESENTATION. YES. OKAY.COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE HEARD THE PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YES.
MISTER COMMISSIONER FIELDS. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES OF THE LOT THAT YOU PLAN TO BUILD ON AND WHERE IT'S AT? AND THE LOT ON BEN HILL. WE DO HAVE A FEW.
YEAH, YOU CAN. YOU CAN SEE IT THERE. IF YOU'RE COMING OFF WASHINGTON ROAD, THERE'S A SIDE STREET THAT LEADS TO BEN HILL. THE LOT IS CURRENTLY IT HAS A EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT WAS GOING INTO THE GARAGE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT USED TO BE THERE. THE HOUSE HAS BEEN TOTALLY DEMOLISHED AND REMOVED. THERE IS A HOUSE ON THE CORNER TO THE LEFT. AND I SHOWED YOU THE STREET VIEW GOING DOWN OF THE HOUSES ARE BASED ON. THE SETBACKS REQUESTED. WHAT'S THE. WHAT IS THE LEGAL SETBACK NOW ON THAT? THE CURRENT SETBACK WOULD BE 50 FROM THE FRONT. YES. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE IT BACK.
15FT. 15FT? YES. OKAY. OH. IT'S 40. IT'S ACTUALLY 45. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT IT WAS 50. SO? SO IF YOU BUILD IT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE CALLED FOR, IT WOULD BE ONLY 45FT SETBACK. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. THE BUILDABLE AREA WOULD ACTUALLY BE BETWEEN 10 AND 15FT. THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO EXTEND. NO, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDABLE AREA WOULD BE BASED ON THE CURRENT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT HOME. BECAUSE IT HAS THE ODD SHAPE. WE HAVE TO TAKE THE MEASUREMENTS STRAIGHT. BUT THE WAY THE LOT IS, IS CURVED BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY'S KIND OF IN A CURVED THE WAY THAT LOT IS CURVED. RIGHT. THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, IF IT'S DRAWN PROPERLY IT MINIMIZED IT TO THE 15FT. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE A BUILDABLE SPACE MEANING FRONT TO BACK FOR THE HOUSE. SO THE ORIGINAL SETBACK IS 50. BUT THE WAY THE WAY THE STRUCTURE IS OR THE WAY THE LOT IS SHAPED AND YOU BUILD A HOUSE YOU NEED YOU NEED A I'M SORRY. YOU NEED A VARIANCE OF 15FT IN THE FRONT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FILDES. IS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION? I'LL JUST POINT OUT I'VE GOT IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS ON THE SATELLITE VIEW. ONE VIEW IN GOOGLE MAPS SHOWS THE HOUSE COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED, WHICH I'M SURE IS THE CASE. BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE HOUSE FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE, I GUESS GOOGLE MAPS HAS AN UPDATED THEIR SATELLITE. SO IT DOES SHOW THE PREEXISTING STRUCTURE, AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE WAY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT. THEY DUE TO THE LOT SIZE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DID HAVE TO BUILD THE HOUSE. CLOSER TO THE STREET WITH A LESSER SETBACK. AND THAT'S JUST ACCORDING TO THE WAY THAT THE PREVIOUS STRUCTURE LOOKS. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
OKAY. OKAY. OTHER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? IS THERE A GOOGLE ON YOUR COMPUTER SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT SHE'S SEEING. OKAY. THANK.
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YOU. IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD? YEAH. AND IF YOU TAKE YOUR CURSOR. YEAH. AND GO TO THE RIGHT OF IT.GO. KEEP GOING. NOW YOU'LL SEE THE STRUCTURE. THAT IS THE SIDE VIEW RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THE FRONT COMING OFF THE FRONT COMING OFF THE STREET. THAT'S THE FRONT VIEW. YES. IT'S BOARDED UP.
LOOKING AT THE. THE VIEW. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE ONE. I DO HERE. I HAVE ONE FROM COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU ALSO NEED A REAR VARIANCE AS WELL, CORRECT? OKAY. YES. AND HOW MUCH IS THAT ONE? THAT WAS TEN. TEN FEET. YES.
OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. AND FROM STAFF, CAN YOU GIVE US THE FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO COMPARE? THANK YOU. OKAY. OH. THANK YOU. BRITTANY. MISS, WOULD YOU GIVE IT TO US? SO, CURRENTLY IN THE R1 ZONE, THE FRONT YARD SETBACK IS 45FT AND THE REAR IS 30. SO HE'S ASKING FOR 15 RELIEF IN THE FRONT AND TEN RELIEF IN THE BACK. OKAY, SO I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. BUT IN THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, WHAT WAS THE SETBACK? IF THE HOUSE IS NO LONGER THERE BASED ON THE DRIVEWAY? WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS MATCH UP THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS THERE. SO WE TRIED TO MATCH UP A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS HOUSE. SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO WAS TO ALSO PLACE A GARAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT CARS WEREN'T IN THE DRIVEWAY AND NOT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO TURN. AND. NOT BE THE EYESORE OR BE TWO CARS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO FIT IN THE DRIVEWAY PROPERLY. AS THEY PROBABLY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, DID HAVE A CARPORT. WE DID. WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THAT IN THE RECORDS.
THE PREVIOUS RECORDS. SO IN DOING THAT, AGAIN WITH THE ODD SHAPE, IT GAVE VERY LITTLE ROOM FOR A BACKYARD. THAT'S THE REASON WE REQUESTED THE BACK VARIANCE TO ALLOW SPACE FOR THE BACKYARD. AND THEN ALSO WITH THERE BEING A PLENTY OF SPACE ON THE SIDES, WE LOOKED AT THE STRUCTURE TO HAVE A DECK ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE INSTEAD OF THE BACK, SO THAT IT WAS EXISTING, OR THERE IS BACKYARD ONCE THE HOUSE IS BUILT. SO WE MAXIMIZED THE SIDE SPACE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT STILL NOT BEING AT ALL CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORS ON THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? BECAUSE I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. OKAY. AND THAT IS THE PRICE POINT ON THIS HOUSE AS COMPARED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRICE POINT. IT IS VERY CONSISTENT. WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS WE ALWAYS TRY TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T SELL IT IF WE CAME IN WITH A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S THERE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE WELL, IN ADDITION TO MAKING SURE THAT WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF PLANNING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE SIMILARITIES IN THE ESTHETICS, EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED TO MATCH OR
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AVERAGE, WE DID EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT PRICING. PUTTING A HOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS MUCH LOWER IS NOT GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORS, NOR GOOD FOR THE PERSON TRYING TO SELL IT. THANK YOU. SO THE MATERIALS THAT YOU ARE USING ARE JUST ONLY GOING TO COMPLEMENT WHAT'S WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. IT WON'T BE TOTAL BRICK BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE HOUSES, THE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE. THEY ARE. BRICK LAYERED BRICK HOMES. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. IS THAT RIGHT? NOT TOTAL BRICK. NO. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT FEASIBLE IN THIS MARKET. SO TO ACTUALLY KEEP THE PRICE IN LINE. CAN YOU DESCRIBE OR SHOW US WHAT'S BRICK AND WHAT'S WHAT THE OTHER MATERIAL IS. SO IT'LL BE A BRICK WATER TABLE SIMILAR TO THE HOUSE THAT WAS THERE. IT WILL HAVE A BRICK WATER TABLE AND SIDING UP AT THE TOP LEVEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE. YES. YES. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS? PRESENTATIONS OF WHICH? NONE. YES. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PACKAGE. I CAN TURN IT.THEN GO DOWN. I THINK. YES. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHERE THE BRICK IS AND WHERE THE. SO THE BRICK. EXCUSE ME? THE BRICK WATER TABLE IS WHAT YOU SEE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT PICTURE THAT COMES ACROSS THE FRONT. THE LOWER LEVEL, THAT'S A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN THAT TOP LEVEL. THAT'S CONSIDERED A BRICK WATER TABLE. AND THEN THE TOP PORTION IS LAP SIDING. THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE SIDING THAT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMMISSIONER FEELS THAT THAT COMPLETE. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ARE YOU STILL STUDYING THE DRAWINGS? I WAS, I WAS I'M SORRY. I WAS STILL STUDYING THE DRAWING. IS THIS GOING TO BE A TWO STORY HOUSE? YES. SIR. WELL, MY QUESTION WAS, IS THIS GOING TO BE A PRIMARY RESIDENCE FOR YOU, OR ARE YOU BUILDING IT FOR SALE? NO, IT'S BEING BUILT FOR SALE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON. YOU. HAVE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. THANK YOU. AND YOU MAY TURN YOUR MIC OFF. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT? IS THERE ANYONE? YOU MAY COME DOWN AND SPEAK? YES. ANYONE IN FAVOR? YOU MAY COME DOWN AND SPEAK. OR ANYONE IN OPPOSITION. YOU MAY COME DOWN AND SPEAK. HEARING NONE. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOVED. AND PROPERLY. SECOND, THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER. I DON'T HAVE ANY. MISSUS. DIRECTOR SMITH, CAN YOU READ IT? THE CASE NUMBER? ABSOLUTELY. NOW I SEE IT. THANK YOU. CASE NUMBER P2024V-002. DASH 11. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSE THIS. THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NOW REMEMBER YOU.
ARE. WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT. DIRECTOR SMITH, RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE. FROM STAFF. YES. IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS CASE NUMBER P2 ZERO P2. 024V-002. DASH ONE
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ONE. THE APPLICANT, RICHARD WINFREY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2627 BEN HILL AVENUE. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A VARIANCE FROM THE CURRENT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO SECTION TEN DASH 2061 E CASE TYPE IS A VARIANCE STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE OF 15FT FOR THE FRONT SIDE. FOR THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. WHICH WOULD MAKE THE FRONT YARD 30FT. STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REAR YARD SETBACK OF TEN FEET REDUCTION, WHICH WILL MAKE THE REAR YARD 20FT. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR SMITH, COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE HEARD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? STAFF A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? REMIND THEM THAT THEY ARE THE FINAL. PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT YOU ARE THE FINAL ARBITER ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. IT WILL NOT GO BEFORE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I, I OPPOSES. HEARING NONE, THE MOTION PASSES. THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED. STAFF? YES, I JUST I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT IN REFERENCE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL QUESTIONS THAT WERE BEING ASKED IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE. THE APPLICANT HAS TO GO THROUGH AN INFILL PROCESS.IT'S PURSUANT TO ARTICLE J OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH REQUIRES FOR HIM TO DO A SURVEY.
HE HAS TO HAVE A COMMUNITY INPUT COMPONENT. HE HAS TO SURVEY AT LEAST 12 HOUSES IN THE FRONT, REAR AND SIDE. SO BASED ON THE MAKEUP OF THE CURRENT MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST, HE WOULD HAVE TO ABIDE BY THOSE GUIDELINES. AND SO HE HAS TO COME THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, AND HE HAS TO BE APPROVED THAT WAY. SO IT'S NOT JUST WHAT HE WANTS, BUT HE'LL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE INFILL GUIDELINES. THANK YOU. THAT
[V. Announcements]
CONCLUDES OUR CASES, COMMISSIONERS. AND NOW WE HAVE A PERIOD OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE HAVE NONE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED NEXT TIME. I, I ONLY HAD ONE MADAM CHAIR AND THAT IS I'M GOING TO SEND OUT SOMETHING TO GET A DATE BASED ON THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, A LITTLE TRAINING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE ARE AVAILABLE. AND THEN IT WILL BE FOR AN EVENING SESSION. AND DON'T FORGET, STAFF DID SAY THEY WERE GOING TO PAY FOR DINNER. WE'LL HOLD THEM TO THAT. WE GOT IT. THANK YOU. THE MEETING. IT WILL BE A MEETING. IT'LL BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT AT YOUR REGULAR MEETING TIME. OKAY. THAT. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? OKAY. MOTION TO MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. THE MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. OH, I DIDN'T HEAR THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD. I. I OPPOSES