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[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 17TH MEETING OF EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FREELY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. ROGERS. PRESENT. MAYOR. HOLIDAY.

INGRAM. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. REMIND ME WHEN WE GET TO THE ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA. THERE'S ONE ITEM THAT WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE MARCH 2025 WORK SESSION.

SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON THAT. SO AT ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA, WE'LL NEED TO AMEND TO ADD THAT TO THE NEW AGENDA ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. IS FLOWING DOWN. OUR SERGEANT AT ARMS TONIGHT IS. LIEUTENANT MASTERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS EVENING. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE LIEUTENANT MASTERS. THE INVOCATION BY REVEREND WALTER MOBLEY OF VICTORY BAPTIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. IF YOU CAN STAND AND ALL STAND AND REMAIN STANDING. GOOD EVENING. LET US PRAY. THE CREATOR OF ALL LIFE, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE OF SERVICE. BLESS THESE ELECTED AND APPOINTED AND CIVIL SERVANTS OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. BLESS THEM AS THEY TAKE UP THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS. HELP THEM AS THEY MAKE CRITICAL DECISIONS THAT WILL BE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, AND THIS WORLD. IT'S IN THY BLESSED NAME WE PRAISE YOU. AMEN. AMEN.

SO AGAIN, OUR SERGEANT AT ARMS THIS EVENING IS LIEUTENANT MASTERS. WE WILL GO TO OUR PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND WE WILL HAVE AFTER THE CEASEFIRE, SIDEWALK UPDATES.

ALSO A PRESENTATION OF UPDATE FROM THE EASTPOINTE POWER DEPARTMENT ON OUR THE RECENT INCREASE OR THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING IN THEIR UTILITY BILLS. SO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT STAFF WILL SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH THAT AFTER PRESENTATION NUMBER

[VI.1. Federal Grants and Loans Update]

TWO. SO WE WILL START WITH THE FEDERAL GRANTS AND LOANS UPDATE, MISS JESSIE. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DURING AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING SHANNON GOLDEN, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, PROVIDED YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION ON THE FEDERAL GRANTS AND LOANS. YOU ALL MAY RECALL THAT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION ORDERED A FREEZE ON GRANTS AND LOANS, AND THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER, THAT FREEZE WAS RESCINDED. SO WE'RE NOT 100% SURE OF WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF GRANTS AND LOANS, BUT RIGHTLY SO. YOU ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, SO YOU WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. AND THAT IS WHAT I SENT YOU OUT EARLIER. TODAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW INFORMATION REGARDING WHETHER THOSE GRANTS AND LOANS ARE STILL RESCINDED. WE DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE FUNDS ARE NOT ABLE TO BE DRAWN DOWN, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS AN ORDER FROM A FEDERAL JUDGE THAT THEY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. SO I GUESS THAT HAS TO PLAY ITSELF OUT IN COURT OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY JUST AN UPDATE WITH MORE OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU REQUESTED. WE ARE ALSO, AS A PRECAUTION, TAKING A LOOK AT OUR

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BUDGET SO THAT IN THE EVENT THESE GRANTS AND LOANS, IN PARTICULAR THOSE AFFILIATED WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL UPDATES THAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR WATER, IF THOSE ARE NOT AVAILABLE, WE WOULD HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO SHOW WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO BUDGET WISE. SHOULD THOSE FUNDS BE PERMANENTLY RESCINDED. SO I JUST PROVIDED INFORMATION TONIGHT FOR YOU. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PUT THIS ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION SO THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MISS JESSIE, FOR THIS UPDATE. I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS IN ON RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A LISTING OF THE DIFFERENT GRANTS. WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE ROUNDTABLE THIS WEDNESDAY WITH OUR FEDERAL AND STATE, OUR STATE DELEGATION, AS WELL AS PEOPLE FROM OUR FEDERAL OFFICES OF OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION. I THINK IT WOULD BE ALSO HELPFUL. I SEE THE AWARD NAME, BUT IF THERE COULD BE A DESCRIPTION ADDED TO THIS. SO THE IDEA IS THAT WHEN OUR STATE OR FEDERAL AND OR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS ARE DEALING WITH THE IMPACT OF THE FREEZE OR ADVOCATING THAT THEY ARE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THESE FUNDS MEAN TO THE CITY AND WHAT IMPACT IT HAS. I THINK A DESCRIPTION, YOU KNOW, THE $15 MILLION FOR OUR WATER, SEWER, ENVIRONMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE APPROPRIATIONS, THAT'S OVER MULTIPLE FISCAL YEARS. SO IT WASN'T COMING ALL IN ONE FISCAL YEAR. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THAT ONE TO SEE WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET NOW VERSUS LATER. I THINK THE FIRST YEAR WAS SOME HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND THEN MILLIONS LATER. SO WHAT WAS IT IN THE FIRST YEAR, I THINK? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY SAID 200,000, 400,000, BUT THE 200,000 OR 400,200 I, 200,000. YES, MA'AM.

SO THAT WOULD BE NOW AND THEN. THERE'S STILL THIS MAY GO ON FOR SOME TIME, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR A GRANT LIKE THAT TO SEE IF IT'S A MULTI-YEAR, WHAT ACTUALLY IS BEING IMPACTED RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE WANT IS FOR THEM TO HAVE THE MOST INFORMATION AVAILABLE ABOUT FUNDING AND RESOURCE ALLOCATION TO EASTPOINTE. WHAT THOSE AWARDS ARE FOR, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATION. BUT THEY THEY'VE REACHED OUT. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN I RESPOND THAT I HAVE THE ACTUAL INFORMATION THAT MAY BE HELPFUL. AND I KNOW FOR THEM, IN ADDITION TO THIS, THIS IS GOOD. SO IT'S GOT LAST WEEK WAS A GOOD START. THIS IS SHOWING MORE INFORMATION. AND IF WE CAN SHOW THE DESCRIPTION BECAUSE THE DESCRIPTION WILL TELL THE IMPACT RIGHT. YES MA'AM. WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS. I WILL SAY THAT WE'LL ANNOUNCE SOME TIME AGO. THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN PROBABLY EARLIER IN 2024, THAT THE EASTPOINTE WOULD BE RECEIVING $35 MILLION FOR OUR EASTPOINTE PATH PLAN TO CONNECT THE SEGMENTS IN DOWNTOWN TO THE BELTLINE ON. I'M NOT GOOD WITH DIRECTIONS, BUT GOING TOWARDS ATLANTA TO THE FLINT HEADWATERS OVER IN THE AIR TRAVEL AREA. THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THIS REPORT, BECAUSE THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT COMING TO EASTPOINTE. THAT WAS A GRANT THAT WAS AWARDED TO THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION, WHO SUBMITTED A REGIONAL GRANT APPLICATION. AND SO THE FUNDS FOR THAT WILL BE GOING TO THEM WILL BE A RECIPIENT, BUT THEY'RE ON HOLD AS WELL. BUT THEY'RE NOT REFLECTED IN THIS REPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT COMING TO THE CITY. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION, WHO WILL THEN PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, THE 100% OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE PARTS OF OUR PATH. THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL. MISS JESSIE, THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION HAD A TOTAL, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS A SUMMARY. SO MAYBE INSERTING THOSE BEFORE THE BREAKDOWN. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS FOR INFORMATION FOR US TO TALK

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THROUGH. AND I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY AWARENESS ABOUT IT ONCE WE FINALIZE IT, FINDING SOMEWHERE ON OUR WEBSITE FOR US TO SHARE IT AS WELL IN CASE RESIDENTS WANT TO SEE IT. YES, MA'AM. WE'LL DO. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THE WHEN WE LAST TALKED LAST WEEK, THE TOTAL WAS A LITTLE I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE OVER 26,300,000. AND IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, OUR CITYWIDE BUDGET IS OVER 200, A LITTLE OVER $210 MILLION. SO IT'S LESS THAN. IS IT 10%? MY MATH IS OFF. BUT IF YOU GIVE IT TO IN PERSPECTIVE TO THE FULL BUDGET, OUR OVERALL BUDGET IS 210 MILLION. AND THESE AMOUNTS THAT WERE SHARED WITH US LAST YEAR, LAST WEEK TOTALED A LITTLE OVER 26,300,000. ALRIGHTY, WE WILL MOVE NEXT TO THE T-SPLOST

[VI.2. TSPLOST and Sidewalk Updates]

PRESENTATION. WE'RE STILL IN PRESENTATIONS. OH, SORRY. YEP. T-SPLOST SIDEWALK UPDATES, MISS JESSIE. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE STAFF HERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS WHO WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON T-SPLOST AND ALSO ON SIDEWALKS. JEFF REEVES IS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL.

SO. MADAM MAYOR. YES, WE'D LIKE TO PUT THIS FURTHER DOWN THE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT INFORMATION.

WE DON'T DRIVE. I'M SORRY. THE JUMP DRIVE WITH THE INFORMATION. SO COULD WE PUT THIS FURTHER DOWN AND THEN JEFF WILL COME BACK. WHERE IS MY PIN GO. OKAY. THANKS. WE WILL. SO WE WILL TABLE FOR A MINUTE. OH THERE'S GOODELL OKAY. YEAH. MR. HALL I WAS ABOUT TO SAY WE'LL GO TO OUR POWER BILL UPDATES AND THEN ANY APPOINTMENTS THAT WE HAD AND COME BACK. BUT I THINK WE WOULD JUST SAY ABOUT BILL. THIS IS OUR. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL JEFFREY REEVES CITY OF EASTPOINTE PUBLIC DIRECTOR. ALSO WITH ME THIS EVENING WOULD BE COMMISSIONER GOODELL HALL, ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR LAST WEEK. WE KIND OF BOTH HAD BEEN OUT OF TOWN AND DIDN'T HAVE OUR PROGRAM IN ORDER. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND DO THE PRESENTATION WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE REQUESTING THIS EVENING, AS WE REQUESTED. THERE'S WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON OUR T-SPLOST PROJECTS, WHERE WE COME FROM AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO. WE'LL ALSO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVED DURING THAT PROCESS. SO RIGHT NOW WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. GOODELL. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. AGAIN, APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE ENTRY.

WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE A FORMAL PRESENTATION FOR OUR T-SPLOST UPDATE. I WANT TO GO INTO SOME BACKGROUND FROM OUR PREVIOUS T-SPLOST AND GIVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. YEAH. HERE WE GO. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT REVENUE FOR THE LAST 2024 THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM FULTON COUNTY FOR OUR REVENUE FOR THE T-SPLOST, FOR THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. AS WE SEE, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT $588,000 PER MONTH IN REVENUE, WITH THE HIGHEST MONTHS BEING DECEMBER, APRIL AND MAY. AND OVERALL, BY

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THE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE SECOND T-SPLOST, WE'VE COLLECTED APPROXIMATELY 19 $19,800,000. SO GIVE SOME UPDATE ON THE FIRST T-SPLOST AND ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED IN THE IN THE WHERE THEY ARE NOW. WE COMPLETED ALL OF OUR TIER ONE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS, WHICH INCLUDE SIDEWALK INSTALLATIONS AND BEN HILL ROAD WASHINGTON ROAD, HEADING IN THE LOW DRIVE BEN HILL ROAD SOUTH AS WE CALL IT, AND OUR MODEL MILE MULTI-MODAL PATH. WE COMPLETED ALL OF OUR TIER ONE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS OR THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, INCLUDING THE CIRCLE PROJECT AT WASHINGTON ROAD, JANICE DRIVE AT WASHINGTON ROAD INTERSECTION PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY GETTING SCHEDULED FOR CONSTRUCTION. NORTH COMMERCE DRIVE AT REDWINE ROAD INTERSECTION AND THE LOW DRIVE INTERSECTION PROJECT OUT OF THE TIER ONE STREETS. ON T-SPLOST ONE, WE RESURFACED APPROXIMATELY 75% OF THE STREETS FOR A TOTAL OF 56 STREETS FROM THE TIER ONE RESURFACING AND PUT THE ASTERISKS FOR HELEN DRIVE, THE LOW DRIVE AND BEN HILL, WHICH CURRENTLY ARE PARTIALLY RESURFACING. WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THOSE STREETS. OUR CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE FOR T-SPLOST UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR UNDER CONTRACT. AGAIN, CIRCLE INTERSECTION PROJECT, WHICH WE'RE STILL ANTICIPATING TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

JANICE DRIVE INTERSECTION PROJECT CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE STARTING THIS SPRING. DYSON DRIVE SIDEWALKS FOR PHASE, WHAT WE CALL PHASE ONE, WHICH IS FROM SIKES PARK UP TO HOGAN ROAD. I ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN 2025. SILVER ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECT. WE HAVE OUR EASTPORT POWER DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY TODAY, STARTED RELOCATING SOME POWER POLES. SO WE'RE GOING TO KICK OFF THAT PROJECT, GETTING THE UTILITIES MOVE. AND WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT AND ADA IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH WILL ALSO UNDER CONTRACT. FOR.

PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE UNDER DESIGN CURRENTLY ARE SILVER ROAD NORTH UP TO. I'M SORRY, WE HAVE THE WRONG CITY LIMITS. THIS SHOULD BE THE CITY LIMIT OF ATLANTA. WE HAVE NORTH DESERT DRIVE SIDEWALKS AND RESURFACING, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF T-SPLOST AND ALMA, WHICH IS FROM SIDEWALKS AND RESURFACING FROM CAMP CREEK UP TO REDWINE ROAD, AS WELL AS OUR CITY WIDE T-SPLOST RESURFACING. WHAT'S THAT? OH. L'M SORRY. L IS OUR LOCAL MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT GRANT THAT'S AWARDED ANNUALLY FROM THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. SO THAT'S THE NORTH DESERT DRIVE SIDEWALK PROJECT THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE. LISTED KIND OF A COMBINATION OF FUNDING FROM TSPLOST AND OUR LOCAL MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT GRANT.

SO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON HOW WE DECIDE WHICH STREETS WE RESURFACE. OUR ENGINEERS THAT WE HIRED A CONSULTANT. THEY DO A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THE CITY'S ROADWAYS. THEY DRIVE EVERY STREET WITH THEIR VANS, KIND OF SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE. IT HAS LIKE A RADAR TECHNOLOGY, ALSO HAS CAMERAS THAT SCAN THE ENTIRE SURFACE OF THE ROAD. THEY RATE ALL THE ROADS WITH THE PAVEMENT PCI CONDITION, WHICH THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, THEY SCORE THEM FROM 0 TO 100. A LOWER SCORE IS A WORST ROAD HIGHER. IT MEANS THE ROAD IS IN BETTER SHAPE. WE HAVE SOME OF OUR ROADS THAT AREN'T IN BAD SHAPE OR IN GOOD SHAPE THAT WE DO MINOR RESURFACING MANNERS SUCH AS SEALCOATING OVERLAYS AND MICRO SURFACING. NEXT. SO HERE AND WHICH WAS THE LIST WE PUT TOGETHER TO PROVIDE TO PUBLIC IS OUR LIST OF 2025 TO 2026. AND THIS IS ABOUT THREE PAGES OF STREETS STREETS THAT WE ARE PRIORITIZING FOR RESURFACING. THE STREETS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ARE STREETS THAT ARE ROLLED OVER FROM THE TIER ONE LIST FROM THE FIRST T-SPLOST. SO FINISHING THOSE OTHER 25% OF THE STREETS THAT WE DIDN'T FINISH IN THE FIRST GO ROUND WITH THIS PAVEMENT PROJECT. IF YOU WANT TO SCROLL THROUGH SOME OF THESE TO VIEW. NOW. SO IF YOU NOTICE SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS, SUCH AS LAKESIDE PRESERVE, WE GROUPED THE WHOLE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION AS A PROJECT. INSTEAD OF LISTING OUT EVERY SINGLE STREET. WE DID THAT FOR SAVANNAH WALK SUBDIVISION, LAKESIDE PRESERVE, AND I THINK THERE'S WE HAVE SOME LAKE TRAIL AND SLOOP IN ONE COLUMN TOO AS WELL, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK, GO BACK TO. GO BACK. SO WITH THAT, I'LL END THE

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PRESENTATION AND I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THE ROADS CONDITIONS WERE ANALYZED AND EVALUATED? THE STUDY WAS DONE THROUGH 2020, AND WE GOT THE REPORT EARLY 2021. SO IT'S ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW. OKAY.

AND I SEE SOME STREETS IN RIVER PARK, WHICH IS GOOD. WHAT ABOUT CENTER PARK OR EAST WASHINGTON? I DON'T SEE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS REPRESENTED. SO THIS IS PRIMARY STREETS WE'RE DOING WITH OUR SPLOST. WE HAVE PARTICULARLY CENTER PARK KNOW CENTER PARK. YES, WE'RE DOING SOME STREETS WITH OUR LOCAL MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT GRANT AS WELL. THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY THIS FIRST ROUND OF T-SPLOST PROJECT. SO WE'RE USING DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL. OKAY. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A RESIDENT COME BEFORE US TO TALK ABOUT NEWNAN STREET AS WELL. SO IF THERE'S OTHER STREETS OTHER THAN THIS PARTICULAR LIST, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF WE HAD ALL THE STREETS. SO THEN WHEN RESIDENTS COME TO US, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION READY AND WE CAN TELL, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS THAT THEIR STREET IS ON THE LIST OR NOT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THERE ARE SOME STREETS THAT ARE MISSED. I MEAN, I DIDN'T GET TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE LIST IN DETAIL, BUT I KNOW THAT IDLEWOOD DRIVE AND RIVER VALLEY DRIVE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE IN REALLY BAD CONDITION, LIKE REALLY BAD. IF NOT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE UP THERE. IF NOT, I'LL MAKE SURE WE'LL WE'LL GET THIS FINALIZED. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT OFF TO CITY MANAGER TO DISTRIBUTE SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. OKAY. AND IS THERE AT ANY POINT THAT WE WILL HAVE ANY KIND OF THAT YOU'LL HAVE FEEDBACK FROM US OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THAT SOMETHING DOES NEED TO BE IMMEDIATELY ADDRESSED THAT ISN'T ON THE LIST. HOW DOES THAT GET HANDLED? SO ONE OF THIS IS KIND OF A IT'S A FINAL LIST, BUT IT'S A DRAFT. I DO WANT TO GET IT TO YOU ALL TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE THIS AND WRAP IT UP, PUT IT OUT. BUT I WE MAY HAVE MISSED SOME AREAS TO HAVE SOME SOME CONTINGENCY IN THIS CONTRACT TO POTENTIALLY HIT SOME AREAS THAT NEED SOME IMMEDIATE ATTENTION OR STREETS THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED. SO THIS IS JUST OUR PRELIMINARY LIST BASED OFF OF T-SPLOST ONE PROJECTS AND OFF OF OUR PAVEMENT CONDITION STUDY. OKAY. AND THEN I THINK IN LIKE THE FIRST SLIDE OR SO THERE, IT TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAVE LIKE $19 MILLION IN T-SPLOST IS THIS ENTIRE LIST, IS THAT GOING TO DRAIN THAT 19 MILLION, OR ARE THERE OTHER STREETS THAT WILL NEED TO BE LOOKED AT? SO THE 19 MILLION WAS JUST REVENUE. IT'S NOT ACCOUNTING FOR WHAT'S ALREADY BEING SPENT CURRENTLY OR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GETTING UNDER CONTRACT NOW. BUT THIS WE ANTICIPATE THIS WILL BE A MULTI YEAR PROJECT. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO GET REVENUE MONTHLY. SO I DO SEE THIS BEING A BIG PORTION OF OUR FUNDING FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS RESURFACING. AND WHEN DOES THE CURRENT T-SPLOST EXPIRE. WE ARE IN YEAR FOUR OUT OF FIVE. YES. SO THEN IN TWO YEARS WE'LL NEED TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. SO WE MEET ABOUT BASICALLY TWICE A YEAR WITH FULTON COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES ON THE FLY. SO WE'LL GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON THEIR PLAN TO PUT THIS ON THE NEXT BALLOT SOON. HOPEFULLY. OKAY. I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HARD TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC WHEN WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T SPENT THE MONEY. WE HAVEN'T LIKE ACTUALLY RESURFACED THE ROADS AT THAT POINT. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP SPEED UP THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT STREETS GETTING REPAVED. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD LEAD IN. WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH A COMPANY ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING A CONTRACT WITH ONE OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES NEAR US THAT IS HANDLING THE T-SPLOST PROJECTS, WHICH WILL KIND OF HELP US TO EXPEDITE OUR PROJECTS. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND REVIEW THEM, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GET THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, AND WE HAVE TO SEND THEM OUT TO AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT HAS COME BACK TO US. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THAT PROCESS, TO EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS BY KIND OF HAVING AN IN-HOUSE COMPANY THAT DOES THIS FOR US. SO WE SHOULD BE SEEING THOSE PROJECTS COMING OUT A LITTLE BIT FASTER ONCE WE BRING A COMPANY ON BOARD. OKAY, GREAT.

YES, MA'AM. AND LAST QUESTION, I DON'T SEE ANY DATES ON HERE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PROVIDED TO US WHEN WE CAN EXPECT CERTAIN ROADS TO BE REPAVED? ONCE WE GET THIS OUT, TO BID AND GET A CONTRACTOR HIRED ON AND WORK WITH THEM ON GETTING A SCHEDULE SO THAT FOR THE PROJECTS KIND OF PRIORITIZE AREAS GROUPING TOGETHER WHERE THEY MAKE SENSE LOGISTICALLY, WE

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CAN KIND OF GET MORE ACCURATE DATES ON AND MAKE THAT PUBLIC AND WHEN WE'LL BE DOING WHAT AREAS AND WHAT STREETS. YES, WHAT OUR DIRECTOR IS REFERRING TO THE PROJECTS THAT WE JUST HAD APPROVED ON OUR PREVIOUS MONTH COUNCIL MEETING. WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING ALL THOSE PROJECTS KICKED OFF THIS MONTH, ACTUALLY SCHEDULING A MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR. SO WE SHOULD BE SEEING MORE PROJECTS COMING ON, MORE DIRT MOVING IN THE CITY. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILMEMBER FRIEDSON. EXCUSE ME. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THIS LIST. IT'S VERY HELPFUL. STEP FORWARD JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING. EVERYONE ELSE PROBABLY ALREADY KNOWS THIS, BUT THE WAY WE READ THIS IS THAT THE STREET IS THE FIRST COLUMN, AND THEN THE SECOND TWO ARE WHERE YOU'RE PAVING BETWEEN. YES, SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT DIDN'T PUT THE HEADING ON THE ON THE FOLLOWING PAGES. YES. IT'S TO AND FROM. GOT IT. OKAY. AND THIS TOUCHES A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER WAS ASKING ABOUT. SO CAN YOU ESTIMATE LIKE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF CITY STREETS IS REPRESENTED HERE? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT MILEAGE TO GIVE A PERCENTAGE FOR THESE PARTICULAR WE CAN ONCE WE GET FURTHER INTO THE ENGINEERING PROVIDING OUR ESTIMATES, THEY'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR LINKS AND LANE MILES SO WE CAN KIND OF GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THIS REPRESENTS. BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT 100% OF THE STREETS IN THE CITY. NO, SIR. IF I HAD TO ESTIMATE IT WOULD BE PROBABLY LESS THAN 20% OF THE STREETS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. HALL, FOR THE PRESENTATION. A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN TERMS OF THIS LIST THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING HERE, THE 2025 2026 RESURFACING LIST, I SEE THIS IN IT'S IN ALPHA ORDER. RIGHT. AND THEN A PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU SAID THAT THE WAY THAT THE CITY GOES ABOUT DETERMINING HOW SEVERE THOSE STREETS ARE IS BY USING THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, RIGHT. SO DO YOU ALSO HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT GROUPS THE STREETS BY THOSE THAT ARE WORSE? I IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD, AND I IMAGINE SO. IF I'M INCORRECT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. YOU WOULD ADDRESS THOSE THAT ARE THE WORST STREETS FIRST AND THEN YOU MOVE DOWN THE LIST. IS THAT CORRECT? NOT QUITE. SOMETIMES IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO ONLY ADDRESS YOUR WORST STREETS. OKAY, SO THE PLAN MAY ADDRESS BASED OFF LOGISTICAL AREA. THIS.

THESE STREETS ARE BAD IN THIS AREA, BUT SOME ARE SLIGHTLY WORSE. BUT IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO DO ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME. NOW SOME OF THEM ARE AVERAGE CONDITION, SO IT'S MAYBE COST HALF THE AMOUNT TO RESURFACE THESE STREETS RATHER THAN ADDRESSING ALL THE WORST STREETS. SO YOU KIND OF DO A COMBINATION OF THOSE APPROACHES. SOME ARE IN DIRE NEED AND YOU DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE WORST, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS STARTING FROM THE BOTTOM OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT MAKES SENSE I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION. THE OTHER QUESTION IS THAT THESE STREETS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST, THEY'RE JUST T PLUS T PLUS STREET PROJECTS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND YOU STATED THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER STREETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RESURFACED WITH SOME OTHER FUNDING? YES. FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST, I DIDN'T WANT TO CONSTRUE THE DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS. WE HAVE OUR LOCAL MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT GRANTS. WE HAVE SOME GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON. MOSTLY THAT ONE IS ADDRESSING SOME MAJOR ROADS WASHINGTON ROAD, NORTH COMMERCE AND CENTER PARKWAY. SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CONVERSATION, I JUST GROUP THE T-SPLOST PROJECTS TOGETHER TO KEEP THE FUNDING IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SO TO THAT POINT, DO YOU HAVE A MASTER LIST OF THE STREETS. AND SO I GUESS IF YOU HAVE ALL OF THE STREETS TO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER'S POINT, WE GET QUESTIONS QUITE A BIT WHEN WE'RE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, MY STREET IS REALLY BAD. IS IT GOING TO BE PAVED? AND WE DON'T KNOW. SO IF YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A MASTER LIST AND IT'LL HAVE ALL THE STREETS ON THERE, BUT THEN YOU'LL KNOW WHAT FUNDING SOURCE THEY'LL COME OUT OF. EXACTLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WITH THE STUDY HAVING BEEN DONE IN 2020 AND WE'RE NOW IN 2025, HOW LONG IS THAT OF THOSE ANALYTICS LIKE VALID. LIKE WHEN DO THEY GO STALE? I KNOW THAT WE GOT THE STUDY IN 21, BUT THIS THE REPORT IN 21. BUT THE STUDY WAS DONE IN 2020. SO ARE THOSE ANALYTICS STILL GOOD. DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND DO ANOTHER STUDY? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, FOR GETTING THE STREETS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE PROJECTED, IT'S STILL VALID. I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD AFTER WE GO THROUGH THIS CYCLE OF RESURFACING THIS LARGE AMOUNT OF STREETS. THEN THEY'LL GET ANOTHER STUDY DONE TO REFLECT OUR CURRENT CONDITION. I DON'T THINK IF WE GO DO A STUDY NOW, IT'S JUST GOING TO RE RESTRUCTURE OR INCLUDE THE STREETS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE PLANNED. SO I THINK AFTER WE, YOU KNOW, GET THESE STREETS, THIS PAVEMENT LIST DONE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PLAN ON GETTING A

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NEW STUDY DONE. TYPICALLY YOU DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS. RIGHT. SO WE'RE KIND OF ON CUE TO DO ANOTHER ONE NOW. BUT WE GOT 50 STREETS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PAVE. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO REFLECT THE CONDITION OF THE NEW STREET PAVING. OKAY, I THINK THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU SAID THE STUDY USUALLY HAS A SHELF LIFE OF ABOUT FIVE YEARS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S INDUSTRY STANDARD. SO IT WILL BE SOON TIME TO DO ANOTHER ONE. AND THEN YOU'LL LOOK AT THOSE STREETS. YES. YOU'LL KEEP WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WORKING ON THOSE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS I APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHEN THE SPLASH, THE FIRST SPLASH CAME ABOUT, HOW DID THE STREETS GET ON THE LIST? THE FIRST LIST, THE STREETS WERE I CAME IN WITH 100% LIKE VOTED ON INDIVIDUALLY BY RESIDENTS. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT A LITTLE A LITTLE BEFORE MY TIME. SO LET ME LET ME ANSWER. SO THE STREETS GOT ON THE LIST BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS SUBMITTED THE INFORMATION IN OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SUBMITTED THE STREETS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WANTED PAID. AND WHEN THE SECOND SPLASH CAME AROUND, THE PROCESS WAS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. I THINK YOU ALL HAD TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND THE RESIDENTS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE RESIDENTS SUBMITTED THE STREETS THAT THEY SAW IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET PAID, BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THAT WAS A BETTER WAY OF DOING IT THAN TO HAVE EACH INDIVIDUAL SAY THEY WANT THIS STREET, THAT STREET.

IT WORKED BETTER WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID IT. AND IF THEY DECIDE TO DO A THIRD SPLASH BECAUSE EASTPOINTE AND MR. REEVES, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, KIND OF SET THE MODEL FOR HOW THE SPLASH WOULD WORK WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING THE STREETS PAID AND THE LIST THAT IF I'M CORRECT, THE LIST OF STREETS HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED. CORRECT. AM I THE STREETS HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE WHOEVER IT GOES TO? I'M JUST GOING TO FINISH AND I'LL COME IN. SO I THINK IF A THIRD ONE IS ASKED FOR BASED ON HOW THIS IS GOING, BECAUSE IT HAS WORKED REALLY WELL BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HAD OR WHAT WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH WHEN WE TOOK OFFICE, THE T SPLASH HAS REALLY WORKED IN PAVING A LOT OF ROADS, PUTTING DOWN SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 35 YEARS AND NOW THE LOW HAS SIDEWALKS FROM. ATLANTA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OTHER END OF ACROSS WASHINGTON ROAD. SO THE T SPLASH HAS REALLY WORKED. AND TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU ALL DID WITH THE INTERSECTION OF HELEN AND DILLO, TO LOOK AT THE SIDEWALKS GOING FROM HELEN TO ATLANTA, THE T SPLASH HAS HAS REALLY WORKED BASED ON WHAT WE WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND I THINK AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU DO THE STUDY, IT'S BASED OFF OF THE CONDITION OF THE ROADS. AND ONE THING WE SAID THAT THE STREETS, EVERY STREET THAT CONNECTED TO ANOTHER CITY WOULD HAVE SIDEWALKS AND BE PAVED BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR GATEWAY TO OTHER CITIES. SO THAT WORKED OUT WELL. NOW, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, AND I THINK WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS, ABOUT MEADOWLARK BECAUSE THEY WERE UNDER SOME OF THEIR STREETS, WAS UNDER SPLASH ONE AS WELL AS CENTER PARK.

CENTER PARK WAS UNDER SPLASH ONE BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CAME TOGETHER AND PUT THEIR STREETS ON THE LIST. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK WHAT STREETS IN CENTER PARK HAVE BEEN BEEN PAVED. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THEM ON THE LIST. SO IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WHERE ARE WE WITH PAVING ANY OF THE STREETS OR PUTTING DOWN SIDEWALKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MEADOWLARK AND CENTER PARK. AND I KNOW FOR THE OTHER END OF THE LOW, YOU'RE WORKING ON THE BEAN HILL. AND ONCE THAT WRAPS UP, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO FINISH PAVING THAT END OF THE LAW AS WELL AS BEAN HILL. YES, MA'AM. JUST KIND OF GO BACK TO

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WHERE SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE SPLASH ITSELF, INITIAL T SPLASH ONE, WE DID A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU SAID WERE WERE SOME OF THE PROCESS THAT WE DID FOLLOW. WE WENT WHEN FULTON COUNTY HAD A STAFF TOGETHER AND THEY GOT WITH OUR OUR MAYORS. AND THEY ALSO DISCUSSED WITH THIS PROCESS WOULD BE LIKE IN GETTING THAT, THAT 0.75 CENT. TAX THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT THE PROPERTY TAXES OF THE RESIDENTS. SO WHAT WE THEN DID WAS WE WERE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH STREETS, WITH THE WHOLE LIST OF STREETS THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY THEM WITHOUT THEM BEING SPECIAL PROJECTS LIKE STREET SCAPE AT THAT TIME. AND WE SUBMITTED THOSE STREETS. WE DID OPEN HOUSE AROUND THE CITY, WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS RESIDENTS WOULD COME IN, AND THEY WOULD REVIEW THOSE STREETS AND SEE WHAT STREETS THEY'RE ON THERE. OF COURSE, WE COULDN'T DO ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME, BUT THE STREETS THAT THAT WERE LISTED AND THE STREETS THAT WERE ACCEPTED BY FULTON COUNTY AT THAT TIME, THEN ONCE THAT PROCESS STARTED, THEY WERE EXPECTING TO GET 35, YOU KNOW, 35 MILLION WITHIN THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH IS ABOUT 7 MILLION A YEAR. WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 6.56 MILLION A YEAR FOR THOSE FIVE YEARS. SO WHAT WE HAD DONE, WE HAD JUST COMPLETED A TRAFFIC STUDY RIGHT PRIOR TO THAT 2017 PERIOD IN 2012. SO WE HAD A PSI STUDY THAT WE HAD ALREADY DONE TO WORK WITH. SO WHEN THE FUNDING CAME OUT, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME, BEFORE THE MONEY CAME IN, THEY KIND OF FRONTED THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR US TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED. SO WE ALREADY HAD STREETS READY TO GO.

SO A LOT OF OUR STREETS CAME STRAIGHT OUT. THAT'S WHY WE STARTED OUR PROJECT SO QUICKLY.

SO THEN WITH THE NEXT T-SPLOST CAME THE LAST ONE. THEY JUST JUST DID FOR VOTING. THAT ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN TO SELECTION OF STREETS. OF COURSE, TO COMPLETE THOSE STREETS THAT YOU HAD, WE HAD TIER ONE, TIER TWO AND TIER THREE PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR. SPLOST ONE.

SO WE WENT AFTER THOSE FIRST TIERS, SOME OF THE SECOND TIERS, AND THEN WE'RE WORKING ON THE SECOND AND THIRD TIERS. MOVING THOSE STREETS MOVED OVER TO THE NEXT TIER, SPLASH TWO, WHICH WE'RE IN T SPLOST TWO FUNDING RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY WE KIND OF THINK THOSE STREETS WERE SELECTING THOSE STREETS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE CENTER PARK AREA. I THINK WE HAVE SOME ROADS COMING UP IN CENTER PARK THAT JUST GOT A BUNCH OF ROADS. WE JUST GOT APPROVED LAST MONTH THAT WILL BE STARTING THIS THIS WEEK. AND I THINK THAT WAS CUMULATIVE ABOUT $10 MILLION OR SO. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT REALLY COME OUT OF THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. AND WE WE'LL GET ALL THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. WE THIS IS AN UPDATE REQUEST TO BY MAYOR AND COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. WE HAVE OUR UPDATE. WE'LL BE COMING UP NEXT MONTH.

SO WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE. WE TRY TO DO IT QUARTERLY. SO WE'LL HAVE OUR QUARTERLY UPDATE, WHICH WE WILL ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING NEXT MONTH TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AND WHERE WE ARE, WE KNOW WHERE WE STARTED. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED TODAY, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND MAKE. HAVE YOU A GOOD UPDATE FOR NEXT MONTH? WE'LL HAVE SOME PROJECTS STARTED. WE'LL HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS GOING TO ENGINEERING, AND WE'LL HAVE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF WHERE OUR FUNDING IS. AND ALL THE OTHER DOWNTOWN PROJECTS SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOVERNMENT PROJECTS AS WELL THAT ARE PENDING AS WELL. SO WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THOSE. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU.

AND QUICKLY, T-SPLOST ONE. WHEN WAS THAT STARTED? 2017 I MEAN, 2017. IT'S OLDER THAN 16 BUT IT STARTED IN 17. OKAY. AND I THINK I SAW A SLIDE THAT SAID THAT WE'RE 75% COMPLETE ON THOSE STREETS FROM THAT LIST. YES. YES, MA'AM. TIER ONE, THE TIER ONE STREETS. TIER ONE STREETS.

OKAY. AND SO WHEN IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO FINISH T-SPLOST ONE? LIKE, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE ASSUMED THAT WE WOULD HAVE FINISHED T-SPLOST ONE AND THEN MOVED ON TO T-SPLOST TWO. BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S THE ORDER OF THINGS LIKE, HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? SO I GUESS YOU PUT IT THIS WAY ONCE YOU ONCE THIS, THIS FUNDING IS STARTS GENERATING, THERE'S A LAG. AND FOR ONE RECEIVING THE FUNDING, YOU KIND OF START FROM ZERO AND GETTING THE PROJECT STARTED. SO ONCE THE TIMELINE STARTS THE PROJECTS DON'T START INITIALLY. SO YOU MAY BE A YEAR OR TWO TO GETTING STARTED SPENDING THE FUNDING AND GETTING THE PROJECTS UNDERWAY.

SO TO PUT THAT POINT T-SPLOST ONE AND TWO KIND OF OVERLAP AS FAR AS US FINISHING THE PROJECTS FROM ONE AND STARTING PROJECTS FROM TWO. SO WE'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS FROM TWO THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED AND COMPLETED WHILE WE'RE DOING THE ONE. SO THERE'S AN OVERLAP PERIOD IN

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THOSE AND THE STREETS THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW FOR RESURFACING ARE ALL THE ONES, THE REMAINING STREETS FROM THAT 75% THAT WE'RE FINISHING FOR THE T-SPLOST ONE TO RESURFACE. SO THIS THAT'S IN THIS CURRENT LIST OF ROADS THAT WE'RE DOING FROM T-SPLOST ONE, FINISHING THOSE UP. AND THAT'LL BE THE COMPLETION OF ALL THE TIER ONE PROJECTS FROM T-SPLOST, ALL THE SIDEWALK PROJECTS, ALL THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, AND ALL THE RESURFACING CONTINUING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR UPDATE ON T-SPLOST TWO. THIS ISN'T T-SPLOST ONE BECAUSE THE SLIDE SHOWED 2022 2023. LIKE THE YEARS ON, THE FUNDING SLIDE DIDN'T INCLUDE YEAR 17, 18, 19, 2021 UNLESS I MISSED IT.

OH, SO THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE T-SPLOST TWO FUNDING FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. I THINK I HAD IT, HAD IT. I'M JUST GIVING AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON FUNDING. T-SPLOST ONE WAS APPROVED ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2016. IT STARTED IN 2017 WENT THROUGH 2022 AND TO REAUTHORIZE T-SPLOST. THE VOTE WAS ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021. FOR 2022 THROUGH 2027. AND SO I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF THE VOTERS WILL REAUTHORIZE IT IN 2026. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE YEAR BEFORE.

HOW MANY TOTAL STREETS DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY? 422. 400. WHAT? 22. AND? I'M LOOKING AT THE STUDY. THE STUDY THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE EAST POINT, GEORGIA PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PRESENTATION BY INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. YES. SO THAT REPORT IS DATED APRIL 2022.

OKAY. SO IF THAT IS THE MOST RECENT STUDY, YOU BELIEVE IT LASTS ABOUT FIVE YEARS. AND WE'RE AT 2027, WHICH TAKES US ALMOST AROUND THE SAME TIME AS T-SPLOST TWO. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SHARE THE PHASES. PRE-COVID, WHEN WE WERE HAVING OUR WHEN I WAS HAVING THE QUARTERLY COMMUNITY CONVERSATION TOWN HALLS, YOU ALL DID A PRESENTATION ABOUT LIKE PEOPLE LIKE, WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO DO A SIDEWALK? BECAUSE YOU GOT TO DO A DESIGN. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GET EASEMENTS AND GET DEAL WITH PROPERTY ISSUES, AND THEN YOU GOT TO DO THE DESIGN AND THEN YOU GOT TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION. SO I THINK IT'S HELPFUL WOULD BE HELPFUL IN YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU SAID YOU ALL ARE COMING BACK WITH AN OVERVIEW PRESENTATION. IS THAT NEXT MONTH AT THE WORK SESSION. THAT'S MARCH. YEAH. AND THEN MARCH. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT WORK SESSION BEING MOVED. BUT I THINK IT WAS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TALK ABOUT AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION. AGAIN. I PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A MEETING BEFORE THEN. OR THEY MAY BE AROUND THE SAME TIME. BUT WHAT ARE THE PHASES? BECAUSE EACH PHASE TAKES TIME AND THERE'S A LEVEL OF PROCUREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DONE A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR ROAD PAVING. I KNOW MULLINS BROTHERS. I THINK THERE WAS A COMPANY THAT WAS LOCAL THAT WAS DOING QUITE A BIT OF THAT. BUT LIKE SHARING ALL OF THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE HEAR, OH, WE HAVE THE MONEY, WHY ISN'T IT SPENT? IT TAKES TIME. AS A GOVERNMENT. WE'RE NOT A PRIVATE ENTITY TO PROCURE THINGS IN THE RIGHT WAY. NOW, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES TO MORE STRATEGICALLY PROCURE THROUGH A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. SO YOU ALREADY PRE-QUALIFIED LIST OF VENDORS AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK SOONER. BUT I THINK HAVING THE PHASES SHOWING WHAT WAS SPENT IN ONE AND TWO, THESE 75 STREETS, IF I DO, YOU SAID IT'S 422 TOTAL STREETS. SO IT'S ABOUT 17% THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. SO IT'D BE HELPFUL TO SEE THE OMG, THE GDOT, ANY FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE'RE USING, ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE DEALING WITH STREETS THAT HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT OR DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN ALL REFER TO, BUT ALSO WHAT STAGE IS IT IN? SO IF YOU HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PHASES AND THEN FOR EACH STREET YOU HAVE WHAT STAGES IN.

SO IF IT HAS TO GO THROUGH DESIGN AND THEN CONSTRUCTION AND WE SEE THAT THIS IS JUST A DESIGN, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER STAGE. AND YOU ALSO HAD LIKE AN ESTIMATED TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR EACH PHASE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS A PART OF OUR PRESENTATION. AND THEN

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ALSO THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE AS IT RELATES TO, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFYING, I MEAN, DOING THE STREET REPAVING, BUT ALSO OUR ENTRIES AT THESE STREETS THAT ARE REPAVED. AND SO WHAT PHASE OVERVIEW OF THE PHASES FOR REPAVEMENT SIDEWALKS. WHAT IS IT? SIDEWALKS AND STREET PAVEMENTS OR STREET INSTALLATION? I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION THING THAT YOU ALL GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF. AND THEN THE WHAT WAS DONE IN SPLOST ONE, AS WELL AS SPLOST TWO. THE BIG, THE GDOT, ANY FUNDING, OTHER FUNDING SOURCES? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE USING HOW MUCH GENERAL FUND WE'RE USING FOR SOME OF THESE AS WELL. AND THEN THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE AND LIST, INCLUDING ON THIS LIST WHAT PHASE THESE STREETS ARE IN SO THAT PEOPLE SO WE HAVE REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS AROUND LIKE TIMING. RIGHT. LIKE BECAUSE THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AS A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY. AND SO THE MARCH WORK SESSION, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. IT MAY BE RESCHEDULED, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MARCH 17TH MEETING. IF THAT ONE GETS RESCHEDULED, EVERYTHING FOR THAT MEETING WOULD GO TO MARCH 17TH. AND IF IT'S A PRESENTATION, WE CAN DO IT IN ONE OF THE THREE COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEETINGS? YES, MA'AM.

COUNCIL. LEE. AND SO THE PREVIOUS STUDY BEFORE THIS APRIL 2022, WAS THAT THE ONE THAT WAS DONE IN 2020 BECAUSE I ONLY SEE ONE ONLINE. SO WE THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS DONE IN 2012 TO 2022 IS THE MOST ONE THAT'S ONLINE IS THE MOST RECENT ONE. AND SO BASED ON THIS ONE ONLINE THERE WERE POINT 8% OF OUR STREETS IN VERY POOR CONDITION, 12.6% WERE IN POOR CONDITION, 31.9% WERE IN MARGINAL CONDITION, 16.4% WERE IN FAIR CONDITION, 8.1 WERE IN GOOD CONDITION, PERCENT, 14.9% WERE IN VERY GOOD CONDITION AND 15.3% WERE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. AND SO NOW THERE IS A LONG TABLE WITH VERY SMALL FUNDS AT THE END THAT PROBABLY TELLS ME WHICH CATEGORY ALL THESE STREETS FALL INTO. BUT THE QUESTION AROUND HOW ARE WE PRIORITIZING AND HOW ARE WE SELECTING STREETS? COUNCIL MEMBER SAM, COUNCIL MEMBER SAM WHICH STREET SEEMS A BIT SUBJECTIVE? IF WE HAVE DATA THAT TELLS US THE CONDITIONS AND WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING, AND SO I'M ASSUMING THIS THE END OF THIS HAS THE 420 SOMETHING STREETS LISTED IN THE GRADES.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S VERY, VERY SMALL. AND SO BUT IT IS ONLINE. AND SO IT'S THE STREETS ARE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. IF PEOPLE WANTED TO GO ONLINE TO PULL THIS REPORT AND LOOK FOR YOUR STREET, IT WILL TELL YOU I CAN'T SEE WHAT ALL OF THESE HEADINGS ARE, BUT IT ULTIMATELY TELLS YOU THE GRADE. IT TELLS YOU TO WARD. IT TELLS YOU A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS FOR YOUR STREET. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE. AS WE AS I'M ABOUT TO ASK, ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS, OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? I THINK ONE SHOULD BE THE EAST POINT POWER BILLS AND THE INCREASES THAT PEOPLE HAVE SEEN AND SHARED RECENTLY. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MISS TRACY. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, STAFF FROM THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT. AND WE MAY HAVE SOMEONE FROM CUSTOMER CARE HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION REGARDING THE POWER BILLS. FOR SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE HIGHER THAN USUAL, WE'VE HAD MANY CALLS. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD MANY CALLS ABOUT CONCERN BEING EXPRESSED BY RESIDENTS. SO SEAN DOE IS HERE AND HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THIS ISSUE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN. SO ON THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON WE STARTED RECEIVING CALLS AND EMAILS ABOUT SOME SOME PEOPLES BILLS BEING

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HIGHER THAN USUAL. SO WE STARTED THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY, LATE EVENING, GOING INTO THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND TODAY TO START INVESTIGATING. YOU KNOW WHAT COULD IF THERE IS ANY ISSUE, WHAT COULD THAT ISSUE BE? SO FAR WE HAVE COMPLETED WE HAVE 18 TOTAL CYCLES. THAT'S THE BILLING ROUTES THAT THE METER READERS READ. WE HAVE 18 TOTAL CYCLES IN THE CITY, AND AS OF TODAY, THEY ONLY COMPLETED 11 OF THE CYCLES. SO WE'RE NOT TOTALLY COMPLETE WITH THE INVESTIGATION, ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT SOMETHING FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST THE 11 CYCLES THAT WERE COMPLETE. AND THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME BEHIND SAYING THAT THEY HAVE ISSUES AS WELL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY ACROSS THE CITY. BUT SO FAR AND FOR THE ONES THAT'S EMAILED OR CALLED, WE WENT THROUGH THEIR BILLS TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THEIR CONSUMPTION LOOKED LIKE. AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, OUT OF WHACK IN TERMS OF THE FROM A CONSUMPTION STANDPOINT, JUST THE POWER THAT YOU USE. AND SO WE HAD BILLING. WE WERE WE WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE STEP OF HOW IT'S ALL COLLECTED TO WHEN BILLING PUTS OUT A BILL. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, NOW WE'RE STILL DOING THE WHOLE INVESTIGATION.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. SO AND WE HAVE A SNAPSHOT JUST A SMALL BECAUSE WE HAVE 30,000 CUSTOMERS WITHIN THE CITY. RIGHT. WE HAD LIKE 25 OR SO EMAILS THAT CAME IN. SO THAT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT FOR COMPARED FROM THE ENTIRE CITY. SO WE DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT SOMETHING.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S WE'RE JUST WRONG ON NOT COMPLETING THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATION. SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED OR IS HAPPENING, WHATEVER THAT CASE MAY BE, THE END OF THE BILLING, THE READING WILL BE FEBRUARY 21ST. IF I'M, I MIGHT BE MIXING UP A DATE OR TWO, BUT IT'S TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE WE WILL BE TOTALLY FINISHED WITH THE READS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. SO. AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE LIKE I DON'T, I CAN'T SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHERE THE ISSUE WAS OR THIS IS WHERE THE ISSUE WASN'T. I CAN'T SAY CURRENTLY, BUT WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING AND LOOKING AT IT. SO I WANT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING UNNOTICED. THIS MORNING WE MET MY TEAM BILLING AND METER READING FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS ON, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU AND WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ALREADY HAVE AN INFLATED BILL OR HIGHER THAN NORMAL BILL? WHAT WHAT IS THE ADVICE RIGHT NOW? DO THEY JUST SIT AND WAIT OR DO THEY PAY AND GET A REFUND. LIKE WHAT? WHAT'S THE ADVICE? I KIND OF REFER TO MISS JESSE. I'M NOT I, I CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY DO? WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. AND AS SEAN MENTIONED, IT IS NOT WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVE ARM TO DECIDE THAT WE WOULD ISSUE REFUNDS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THAT WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE

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TIME TO WORK THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF WHAT PEOPLE, WHAT THEIR INDIVIDUAL BILLS ARE. WE HAVE GOTTEN EMAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO INDICATED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PAY THEIR BILL, AND THEY WOULD HOPE TO HAVE SOME RESOLUTION DOWN THE ROAD IF THAT'S A REFUND OR CREDIT OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THIS BODY. IF YOU ALL SAY THAT YOU WANT US TO TAKE A PARTICULAR ACTION, THEN WE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR GUIDANCE. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE WORRY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS REALLY LARGE BILL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, APPARENTLY, BUT ALSO KNOWING HOW QUICKLY WE ARE TO CUT PEOPLE OFF, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A TUSSLE WITH, WITH THE RESIDENT KNOWING WHAT TO DO IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO PAY A BILL THAT THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO PAY OR THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. ON THE FLIP SIDE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO GET CUT OFF. SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO COME TO A DECISION TONIGHT ON WHAT TO DO, BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE, YOU KNOW, MARCH. AND THAT'S A LONG TIME BETWEEN THEN AND NOW. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE AFFECTED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE A HOLD ON PEOPLE'S BILLS OR A HOLD ON CUT OFFS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THAT THAT SOUNDS PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO ME. I CAN TELL YOU THAT. I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER FREELY. ATKINS. THANK YOU. GLAD THAT THERE IS A PRECEDENT FOR US NOT DISCONNECTING WHEN WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES IN THE CITY. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE.

AND WE ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH VARIOUS ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER TOUCHED ON A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I GUESS I WOULD SORT OF SECOND, I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR US TO HAVE A PLAN. I MEAN, I KNOW MY BILL WENT UP BY 50%. MY BILL IS VERY SMALL, SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE. BUT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE'S BILLS POSTED ON VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS. SOME PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH HUGE AMOUNTS, WHICH WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT. I WOULD THINK, FOR SOME HOUSEHOLDS TO PAY. SO I DO THINK WE NEED A PLAN OF SOME KIND, BECAUSE IF THERE IS AN ERROR, ASKING PEOPLE TO PAY $1,000 IS A BIT OF A HARDSHIP, IT SEEMS TO ME, BUT THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR MR. JOE FOR PRESENTING THIS EVENING. MY QUESTION WOULD BE, I KNOW THAT, MISS JESSIE, YOU STATED THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN SOME CALLS OR THE POWER DEPARTMENT HAS GOTTEN SOME CALLS TO SAY THAT SOME OF THESE RATEPAYERS CAN PAY. BUT I ALSO THINK OF THE RATEPAYERS WHO CANNOT PAY. AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DO THIS EVENING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THAT SOLUTION IS I THINK MR. DOE STATED OF OUT OF THE 30,000 CUSTOMERS WE'VE HAD, ABOUT 25 OR 30 OR SO THAT HAVE CALLED IN IS IF THAT WOULD BE. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL OF THOSE RATEPAYERS WHO HAVE RECEIVED VERY HIGH BILLS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF OUR INSTRUCTION TO THEM WOULD BE FOR THE POWER DEPARTMENT TO SAY, OKAY, OVER THE PAST THREE MONTHS OR NORMALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR, YOUR BILL IS THIS PAY THIS AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO PAY THEIR BILLS. AND SO IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF SOLUTION WE COULD COME TO TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THE RATEPAYERS SOME DEFINITIVE NEXT STEPS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE FOR US ONE NOT TO DISCONNECT. THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP AND THEN TWO, TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE WHO WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT YEAR OVER YEAR, DO A COMPARISON OF WHAT THEIR BILLS WERE AND THE POWER DEPARTMENT AND CUSTOMER CARE CAN SHOW THEM THAT INFORMATION, THEIR

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CONSUMPTION AND SO FORTH. WHILE WE WORK THROUGH EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THEIR COSTS ARE, AND WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT AGAIN, NOT TO DISCONNECT UNTIL WE WORK THROUGH ALL OF THE ISSUES. AND WE RESPECT THAT. WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY HAVE BEEN COLD, BUT STILL, YOU DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE A 50% INCREASE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY BUDGET FOR. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. SO ALSO SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION FOR SOME, FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE WENT TO, THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL DATA FROM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK THREE, FOUR YEARS, TAKING OUT THOSE THAT WEEK WHEN IT WAS REALLY, REALLY COLD. THE HISTORICAL DATA SHOWED THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WERE USING EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE USED OVER THE LAST 2 TO 3 YEARS, EXCEPT FOR THAT COLD WEEK, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE CONSUMPTION WAS REAL CRAZY THAT WEEK. BUT OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT FOR THAT'S NOT PUTTING EVERYONE INSIDE A BUBBLE. BUT FOR SOME THAT WE ANALYZE, THAT'S WHAT WE SAW. SO. SO. THANKS FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION I THINK. SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT. THE NO CUT OFF IS OPERATIONAL AND HAS BEEN DEALT WITH BY STAFF IN THE PAST. WHAT MISS JESSIE REFERRED TO AS NEEDING COUNCIL ACTION IS IF WE WERE GOING TO GIVE A REFUND OF LIKE BASICALLY GIVING PEOPLE DISCOUNTS ON THEIR BILLS. AND SO THAT IS A BUDGETARY IMPACT FROM A DECISION OF IN WHETHER OR NOT I MEAN, THE LEGAL WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT GRATUITIES OR WHAT, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS IF IT'S NOT AN ERROR. BUT I THINK AS IT RELATES TO THE NO CUT OFF. WE CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE TO FRONT MONEY THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO PAY ONCE IT'S ALL DEALT WITH. BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT THE NO CUT OFF IS CITY WIDE, BECAUSE WHEN WE'VE TRIED TO PIECEMEAL NO CUT OFFS BEFORE, WE RUN INTO ISSUES. AND SO LIKE I THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, MOTIVATION TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. BUT I DON'T WANT US TO SAY OR FOR THIS MANAGEMENT OPERATIONALLY TO SAY WE'RE NOT CUTTING PEOPLE OFF WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. AND THEN SOMEBODY WHO IS BEING IMPACTED GETS CUT OFF BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEGMENT IT RIGHT. LIKE THAT'S HAPPENED WAY TOO MANY TIMES. AND SO IF THERE IS A NO CUT OFF UNTIL IT'S RESOLVED, IT'S JUST A NO CUT OFF UNTIL IT'S RESOLVED. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE PEOPLE STILL GO OUT WITH A CUT OFF LIST AND CUT PEOPLE OFF WHEN WE'VE SAID WE'RE NOT CUTTING PEOPLE OFF. AND SO, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONALLY, THE DECISION TO NOT CUT PEOPLE OFF OR WE'RE LOOKING AT IT SOUNDS LIKE A SOUND DECISION, BUT I WOULD CAUTION THAT WE DO IT CITY WIDE, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL RUN INTO THE I DIDN'T PAY IT. THEY TOLD ME I PAY IT. THEN YOU GOT TO PAY THIS AND TURN IT ON, AND THEN IT BECOMES A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES WHEN YOU KNOW THERE'S A NO CUT OFF AND THERE'S AN INCENTIVE FOR STAFF TO WORK THROUGH IT TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE'S BILLS ADJUSTED OR MAKE WHATEVER NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED.

BUT PIECEMEAL AND CUT OFFS HAS NOT BEEN GOOD, AND SO WE CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE. I MEAN, SOMEONE SHARED THEIR BILL WITH ME TODAY AND IT WAS OVER 100% MORE THAN THEIR USAGE LAST YEAR. THIS TIME, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN THE LECTURE, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN ELECTRIC STUFF, BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. BUT WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, I DON'T WANT US TO TELL PEOPLE WE'RE NOT CUTTING OFF. AND THEN WE TRY TO SEGMENT IT AND WE DON'T SEGMENT IT RIGHT. AND PEOPLE GET CUT OFF. COUNCIL MEMBER COMING. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO I AGREE WITH YOUR WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE SHOULD IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A NO CUT OFF THAT WE ARE WE SAYING DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD OR. BUT THE THING IS THIS I ALSO WANT TO CAUTION US AGAINST BECAUSE WE

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KNOW THAT THEY AREN'T CUTTING IT OFF. WE WANT TO STILL MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE PAY BECAUSE YOU'LL GET I MEAN, IF YOUR REGULAR BILL, IF YOU PAID $150 A MONTH, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU NORMALLY PAY.

I UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE A 5 OR $600 BILL, AND I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH SOME THINGS, BUT JUST TO KIND OF BECAUSE LET'S JUST SAY WE COME OUT AND WE SAY FOR 25 OR 30 PEOPLE, THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY AN ISSUE WITH IT. BUT IF YOU HAVE EVERYBODY THAT JUST DIDN'T PAY OR I'M SURE SOME WILL STILL PAY, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE THOSE THAT COME IN AND THEY JUST SAY, WELL, THEY AREN'T GOING TO CUT IT OFF AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO RUN INTO THAT. AND I MEAN, I KIND OF SEE SOME OF THE QUIRKY LOOKS AND EVERYTHING. BUT IF WE SAY THAT YOU WEREN'T CUTTING THE POWER BILL OFF, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THE POWER OFF, THERE ARE SOME OF US THAT WILL NOT PAY.

AND WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN A REGULAR BILL. SO I THINK WHEN WE DO PUT IT OUT THERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A NEED TO DO THAT, BUT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT'S CLEAR, BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE BILL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG THING FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTA DURING COVID, AND I KNOW THAT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SITUATION. BUT WE'RE SAYING WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE. WE NEED TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH IT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL WE'RE STILL DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND STILL, YOU KNOW, BEING RESPONSIBLE. I YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIGLAR, THANK YOU. AND LAST THING. SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHUT OFFS, BUT WHAT ABOUT LATE FEES? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALSO NOT BE CHARGING LATE FEES DURING THIS PERIOD AS WELL UNTIL WE FIGURE THINGS OUT. THANKS. SO I THINK THE CAUTION IS WELL NOTED AROUND PEOPLE JUST NOT PAYING. BUT WE'RE NOT WAIVING BILLS. SO IF SOMEBODY MAKES THE DECISION TO NOT PAY A PORTION THIS MONTH, KNOWING THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY DOUBLE UP AT SOME POINT, THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL DECISION, RIGHT. AND THAT WILL BE A SITUATION THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH. I UNDERSTAND THAT CAUTION, BUT I JUST THINK WE HAVEN'T DONE WELL WITH SEGMENTED NO CUT OFFS, WAIVING LATE FEES. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEREIN LIES THE CONCERN AROUND IF WE WAIVE LATE FEES ACROSS THE BOARD, THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY AREN'T IMPACTED. THEY JUST DON'T PAY. WHETHER WE WAIVE LATE FEES FOR PEOPLE WHO. I MEAN, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IMPACTED, WHO DON'T PAY. AND THEN WE WAIVE THE LATE FEE UNNECESSARILY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, MISS JESSIE OUT. WE CAN HEAR FROM YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THOSE ARE POINTS WELL NOTED AND VERY A GOOD CAUTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE WELL WITH ISOLATED CUT OFFS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH LONGER WE THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE. YOU SAID WE'VE BEEN THERE'S 18 CYCLES. WE'VE GONE THROUGH 11. THAT MEANS WE HAVE SEVEN MORE. WE'RE OVER HALFWAY DONE. I KNOW IF WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED TIME AS TO WHEN WE WILL COMPLETE THE INVESTIGATION AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE CALLED WHO'VE HAD HIGH BILLS. MAYBE WE CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO'VE REALLY HAD THOSE HIGH INFLATED BILLS TO CALL THE CITY. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE SOME PEOPLE SPEAKING HERE TONIGHT. I MET SOME IN THE HALLWAY WHEN I CAME IN TODAY GETTING THEIR INFORMATION FROM THE CLERK, FROM PUBLIC COMMENTS, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE INDIVIDUAL CONCERNS AND GO THROUGH THAT WITH THEM. AND MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT WHILE WE'RE COMPLETING THE INVESTIGATION. BUT WAIVING LATE FEES JUST ACROSS THE BOARD FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY CHOOSE JUST TO, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. THEY JUST CHOOSE NOT TO PAY. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE, AND MAYBE IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HAD. THE ISSUE IS THAT, MADAM MAYOR, I THINK WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO YOU AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION. I BELIEVE THE LAST BILLING CYCLE IS FEBRUARY 21ST. SO WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 3RD. IF WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION TO YOU BEFORE THEN. SO IF WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH ANOTHER UPDATE MARCH 3RD, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BEFORE WE TAKE ANY ACTION IN REGARDS TO ACROSS THE BOARD WAIVING LATE FEES, PERHAPS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ISSUES.

COME ON YOU ALL. WE'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE THIS, BUT WE CAN'T YELL OUT FROM THE AUDIENCE. SO YOU

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ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR TIME TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS. SHE'S NOT SAID NO TO NO CUT OFF, RIGHT? SHE'S SAYING ASSESSING WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE WAIVING LATE FEES, THE TOTALITY OF IT.

BUT WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE YELLING OUT FROM THE AUDIENCE, GO AHEAD. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO OFFER. MARCH 3RD WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AND THEN AT THAT TIME, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE US MAKE A DECISION ON WAIVING LATE FEES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT THE BILLS, PARTICULARLY IN BEACON PARK, ARE DUE ON ON MARCH 3RD. SO THE MARCH 3RD COUNCIL MEETING IS TOO LATE FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED. AND THEY'RE THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO REALLY REACHED OUT TO US ANYWAY.

SO I THINK THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC IF WE WAIT UNTIL MARCH 3RD FOR AN ANSWER TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE COMMUNITY, ON ON IF THEY HAVE TO PAY LATE FEES OR NOT DUE TO AN ISSUE THAT POTENTIALLY WAS CAUSED BY THE CITY. AND IF IT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S POTENTIALLY CAUSED BY THE CITY, I MEAN, LIKE I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING TO PAY A LATE FEE BECAUSE OF THAT. SO I THINK WHAT I HEARD MISS JESSIE SAY IS THAT THERE'S NO CUT OFFS, AND THE WAIVING OF LATE FEE WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION WILL BE MADE AFTER AN INVESTIGATION TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WIDESPREAD.

IF THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE A BUDGETARY DECISION TO WAIVE LATE FEES FOR 30,000 ACCOUNTS TONIGHT, WHEN THE INVESTIGATION IS NOT COMPLETED, THEN COUNCIL CAN MAKE THAT BUDGETARY DECISION. I THINK THE MORE, MORE PRESSING THING IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THE DARK WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO INVESTIGATE IT AND FIND FIGURE IT OUT. AND SO THERE ARE 1 OR 2 OPTIONS. MISS JESSIE HAS SAID, AND I DON'T LET ME PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, MISS JESSIE, BUT IT'S NO CUT OFF.

INVESTIGATE RECOMMENDATION ON MARCH 3RD ABOUT WAIVING LATE FEES. YES. NOBODY WILL BE CUT OFF. NOBODY WILL BE CUT OFF. OKAY? YES, MA'AM. SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. NOW IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DECIDE, THE OTHER ASK IS THE WAIVE LATE FEES FOR 30,000 ACCOUNTS THAT MAY NOT BE IMPACTED AT THIS TIME BEFORE THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE. AND THAT SIGNIFICANT BUDGETARY IMPACT PROBABLY WOULD NEED A DIRECTIVE OF COUNSEL TO TELL THEM TO DO THAT FOR 30,000 ACCOUNTS WHERE EVERYBODY'S NOT IMPACTED, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE WHO ARE AND DEAL WITH IT IN THAT WAY. SO I'M GOING TO TURN MY MIC BACK. COMES IN FOR A MOMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND I DON'T HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. SAY WE DON'T WAIVE LATE FEES ACROSS THE BOARD. THE PROCESS PLAYS ITSELF OUT. SOMEONE GETS A LATE FEE, AND IT TURNS OUT THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF AN ERROR. THE LATE FEE COULD BE REFUNDED. CORRECT OR CREDIT ISSUE. OKAY, YES, MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO. YES. JUST MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU.

YEAH. SO CLEAR THAT STAFF IS SAYING OPERATIONALLY NO CUT OFF. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT REQUIRES A MOTION. THEY'VE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE WHEN THEY'VE HAD TO INVESTIGATE THESE SITUATIONS. AND SO MISS JESSIE, I MEAN, THERE WAS A SITUATION IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IMPACTED OVER 500 HOUSES, AND THERE WAS STEPS, STEPS TAKEN BY STAFF OPERATIONALLY DURING THE INVESTIGATION. AND THEN THEY RESOLVED ALL OF IT. PEOPLE MET WITH THEM AND ALL OF THAT. AND SO DO YOU NEED A DIRECTIVE FOR A NO CUT OFF WHILE YOU'RE INVESTIGATING? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. SO THE MARCH 3RD, YOU ALL WILL GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE INVESTIGATION. IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SHARE THEIR BILLS, REACH OUT TO WHATEVER NUMBER TO SCHEDULE A TIME TO GO OVER IT IF THEY HAVE BEEN IMPACTED. WHILE WE'RE DOING OUR INVESTIGATION OF ALL THE CYCLES, LIKE, WHO WOULD THAT BE? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED ABOUT 25 OR 30 CALLS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING, BUT IF YOU HAVE AN EXCESSIVELY HIGH BILL THAT THEN MORE THAN NORMAL, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO SAY, FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO CALL RIGHT. PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SHOULDN'T CALL, BUT

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PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHOULD. AND THAT CAN HELP US PROBABLY IDENTIFY WHO'S DIRECTLY IMPACTED WHILE WE'RE INVESTIGATING ALL OF THE CYCLES. WHO WOULD THAT BE, MISS JESSIE, WHAT WOULD BE THE PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL ADDRESS? AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT NOW, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE WE CAN SHARE IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING. SO IF YOU HAVE IT NOW, WE CAN SHARE IT NOW, THE END OF THE MEETING. AND THEN WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND I'LL SHARE IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING. BUT IT'LL BE THROUGH CUSTOMER CARE. CUSTOMER CARE HAS BEEN TAKING THE INFORMATION. AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, I SAID EARLIER, WE'VE BEEN LITERALLY GOING THROUGH EACH ONE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE HISTORICAL DATA. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT IT'LL BE THROUGH CUSTOMER CARE, AND I'LL SHARE THE NUMBER AND EMAIL ADDRESSES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. ALSO, JUST ONE MORE THING I LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF ANY, ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE AND WHO'S LISTENING, PLEASE DOWNLOAD UTILITY HAWK. IT'S A APP. IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SIGN UP FOR IT. YOU COULD TRACK YOUR OWN USAGE. YOU COULD SEE ALL YOUR CONSUMPTION.

YOU COULD SEE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS WITH YOU. YOU COULD SEE IT, YOU KNOW, IN REAL TIME, LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, TURN OFF YOUR BREAKERS AND SEE WHAT IT'S SAYING, YOU KNOW? SO DOWNLOAD UTILITY HAWK, SIGN UP, YOU KNOW, DOWNLOAD IT. IT'S ALL ON SOCIAL MEDIA ALL OVER. SO WITH WHAT WE SHARE INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH ALL OUR COMMUNICATION POST AROUND, IF YOU'VE BEEN IMPACTED, REACH OUT TO THE EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER AND IF YOU COULD EMAIL IT TO US, I'LL LOOK AT MY LAPTOP AND WHENEVER IT COMES UP, I'LL SHARE IT IN THE COUNCIL MEETING AND WE CAN SHARE IT AT THE END, BUT ALSO SEND OUT THE UTILITY HAWK INFORMATION. AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S GONE OUT BEFORE, BUT IF WE CAN. WHEN IS THAT TOWN HALL? HAVE YOU ALL I KNOW THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A VIRTUAL TOWN HALL ABOUT IT. HAS IT HAPPENED YET? YES, I'LL SEND THAT ALSO, I DON'T I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE, SO. MARCH 7TH. OH, MARCH 7TH. SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT TOWN HALL AS WELL. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VIRTUAL SO IT CAN BE RECORDED SO IT CAN STAY ONLINE. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PERSON AS WELL. YOU GUYS DO REALLY GREAT IN PERSON TOWN HALLS WITH RAFFLES AND ALL OF THAT. SO MAYBE HERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST HAVE ONE IN-PERSON OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS OR APPOINTMENTS? MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE TWO. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS.

YES, MADAM MAYOR, THIS EVENING I MOVE TO APPOINT LAWANDA DAVIS TO THE EASTPOINTE BUILDING AUTHORITY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MADAM MAYOR, MISS DAVIS IS A MULTI-STATE LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER WITH 20 PLUS YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE INDUSTRY. HER EXPERTISE INCLUDES LAND ACQUISITIONS, NEW CONSTRUCTION, LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AND COMMERCIAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

MISS DAVIS HAS A DEGREE IN INTERIOR ARCHITECTURE DESIGN FROM BAUDER COLLEGE AND LIVES IN THE LAKESIDE PRESERVE COMMUNITY IN WARD D. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS.

YES, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPOINT ANTHONY DUBOSE TO THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, MADAM? OH, I'M SORRY. DISCUSSION. MY BAD. I WITHDRAW MY CALL. DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. NO WORRIES. MR. DAVIS IS A RETIRED ENGINEER WITH EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THE UTILITY ELECTRIC UTILITY FIELD. DURING HIS TENURE IN THE FIELD OF ELECTRIC METERS, MR. HAS WORKED WITH SOME OF THE LARGEST UTILITIES IN THE COUNTRY, DEVELOPING AND DEPLOYING A GRID ANALYTICS SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT ASSET HEALTH OUTAGES AND RESTORATION MANAGEMENT, THEFT DETECTION AND VOLTAGE ISSUES. MR. DERUBEIS HAS A BS IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING AND A BS IN PHYSICS FROM LAFAYETTE COLLEGE, AND LIVES IN THE WARD B PORTION OF CENTER PARK. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS COMMITTEE REPORTS. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS FROM BUDGET AND FINANCE? COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL OR HUMAN RESOURCES? COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL? NO. WE HAVE UPCOMING MEETINGS. ANYBODY

[VIII. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]

FROM EITHER THE COMMISSION COMMITTEES. NEXT IS ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA. AND THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO ADD AS THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MARCH 2025 WORK SESSION. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THAT'S THE MOTION. THAT'S ADDING THAT SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL OKAY. ALL

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THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS APPROVAL OF THE CITY

[IX. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES]

COUNCIL. MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 3RD REGULAR MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL THERE. MADAM MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL MINUTE MEETINGS FROM FEBRUARY THE 3RD.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

[X.3. P2024U-001-10 Use Permit Request to Develop 2 (Two) Warehouse and Distribution Buildings at 0 Welcome All Road in the I-1 (Light Industrial) Zoning District]

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW AT THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. ALL OF THESE ARE ZONING MATTERS. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY TO READ THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC HEARING RULES FOR THESE MATTERS. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES. BEFORE ADOPTING ANY CHANGE TO THE ZONING MAPS OR TEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHERE A RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE ON THE PETITION. PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE WILL INTRODUCE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. STAFF WILL THEN BE CALLED UPON TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUMMARIZE THE STAFF'S WRITTEN REPORT. PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. THE APPLICATION FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OR APPLICANTS DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS, PROVIDED EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SPEAKER FOR A SIDE, THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER. OTHER THAN THE ZONING APPLICANT, THE ZONING APPLICANT MAY RESERVE A PORTION OF HIS ALLOTTED TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING. EACH SPEAKER SHALL IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS. EACH SPEAKER SHALL SPEAK ONLY TO THE. TO THE MATTERS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DECISION. UNDER CONSIDERATION SHALL ADDRESS REMARKS ONLY TO THE COUNCIL, AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY OTHER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REFUSE A SPEAKER THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE IF, AFTER FIRST BEING CAUTIONED, THE SPEAKER CONTINUES TO VIOLATE THE RULES OF DECORUM. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON A USE PERMIT REQUEST TO DEVELOP TWO WAREHOUSES AND DISTRIBUTION BUILDINGS AT ZERO WELCOME MALL ROAD IN THE I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SO MOVED THERE A SECOND SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. MISS JESSIE WILL HAVE AN OVERVIEW FROM STAFF. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, KIMBERLY SMITH AND LEE KELLY ARE HERE. FROM PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW. OVERVIEW. THANK YOU, MISS JESSIE. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL, KIMBERLY SMITH, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE, PROPERTY LOCATED AT ZERO WELCOME MALL ROAD. CASE NUMBER P2024. YOU DASH 001-10. THE APPLICANT IS GREYSTAR JOHN HOBART. THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS I ONE, WHICH IS OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE REQUEST IS FOR A USE PERMIT TO DEVELOP 21 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES FOR TWO WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION CENTER BUILDINGS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 219,000FTā– !S IN AREA. AND AGAIN THE SITE IS ZONED I ONE. AS YOU CAN SEE ON

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THE MAP, THE PROPERTY IS IN THE GRAY AREA, HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, AND IT'S ZONED I ONE. THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING THE PROPERTY. IT'S OUTLINED IN RED WITH THE RED STAR ON IT. IT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. THAT'S WHAT THE GREEN CIRCLES ARE DEPICTING. ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS IN THE AREA. YOU ALSO SEE THE MICROSOFT DATA CENTER TO THE RIGHT. NEXT. THE ZONING MAP. AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED I WON SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE CITY OF EAST POINT DID A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. AND THIS SLIDE IS JUST SHOWING THE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE AREA USES ONE THROUGH SEVEN. I'LL NAME A FEW OF THEM. ARTISAN WORKSHOP, AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, AMBULANCE SERVICES, HOSPITALS, KENNELS, ANIMAL GROOMING. AND JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY JUST A BASIC DEFINITION OF WHY WE USE ZONING LAW. AND THE PURPOSE OF ZONING LAW IS TO REGULATE HOW LAND CAN BE USED IN DIFFERENT AREAS, PREVENTING INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES FROM BEING NEXT TO EACH OTHER. FOR EXAMPLE, PLACING INDUSTRIAL NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND ULTIMATELY ENSURING THAT ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT AND COMPATIBILITY BY COMMUNITY OF THE COMMUNITY BY MANAGING THE URBAN GROWTH. THESE ARE SOME MORE OF THE PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE I. ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. PURSUANT TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, SOME OF THE OTHER PERMITTED USES BY RIGHT NEWSPAPER ESTABLISHMENT OFFICE FOR BUSINESS, OFFICE FOR PROFESSIONAL PLUMBING FACILITIES, GYM FACILITIES. AND RESTAURANTS. AGAIN, THIS IS A DEPICTION OF THE SITE AND SHOWING SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ASKED ABOUT WHAT COULD BE USED OR HOW COULD WE REIMAGINE. WE TOOK A CLIP FROM A NEARBY DEVELOPMENT, AND IF WE COULD SHARE THAT WITH YOU, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND COULD JUST LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. THIS IS THE LEON WHITE FOOD HALL, WHICH IS NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF GIVING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE IN THAT AREA LIKE THIS TO SOMETHING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY INDUSTRIAL. AND THIS SITE WAS COMPLETELY REDEVELOPED AND REPURPOSED FOR COMMUNITY USE.

THE THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS LOCATED IN INDUSTRIAL SUBAREA TWO, SHOWN ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. OUR SUBAREA TWO IS INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK. SOME OF THE GOALS OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS TO PROMOTE, ADOPT, ADAPTIVE REUSE AND REDEVELOPMENT OF VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES TO INCREASE POSSIBLE POSSIBILITIES FOR INTRODUCING MODERN INDUSTRIAL USES TO THESE AREAS. ALSO, ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO ENCOURAGE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE PARK USES AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MANY, MANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND SUBDIVISIONS AND ALIGN IT WITH SOME OF OUR C2 USES ALONG WITH MIXED USE COMMERCIAL.

INDUSTRIAL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT DUE TO UNCERTAINTIES ABOUT THE DETAILED TRAFFIC,

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STUDY INFORMATION, POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IMPACTS SUCH AS LIGHT, NOISE, TRAFFIC, TRAILER TRAFFIC, AIR QUALITY AND WATER ON THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT SIDEWALKS, ACCESSIBILITY, ALONG WITH FRONTAGE AND ENTRYWAYS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, DRIVEWAY SPACES, LOT COVERAGES, PROPOSALS AND INTERNAL SIDEWALK COVERAGE.

PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED TO DENY THE PETITION BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S THE END OF OUR REPORT. OKAY, PER OUR RULES, THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OR HIS OR HER ITS DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE ARE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST. SO IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HERE TO SPEAK AND COME FORWARD? OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS SOUTH METRO BUSINESS CENTER, A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE SITE WHERE WE ARE SEEKING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THE SITE CURRENTLY SITS ON. JUST TO CLARIFY, I KNOW THAT IT'S LISTED AS ZERO WELCOME ALL ROAD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE TAX PARCEL IS IDENTIFIED ON. BUT IT IS ON SOUTH MEADOWS PARKWAY, A DEAD END ROAD THAT IS A PART OF AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL PARK WITH ONLY INDUSTRIAL USES ON THAT ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'RE SHOWING A 2000 FOOT RADIUS AROUND THE SITE WHERE THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. AS PART OF THAT RADIUS. AND THERE'S ALSO NO HOME TO WHICH OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY TO ANY HOME. AND EAST POINT. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'VE DEMONSTRATED HERE, AS YOU, YOU KNOW, EXIT OUR SITE. IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A RIGHT OUT OF OUR SITE, YOU COME UP TO THE STOP SIGN DIRECTING ALL TRUCKS TO THE LEFT AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. IF A TRUCK WERE TO TAKE A RIGHT, THERE'S IMMEDIATE SIGNAGE IDENTIFYING NO TRUCKS IN THE FIRST ONE AND ALSO NO THROUGH TRUCKS IN THE SECOND IMAGE. SO WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REINFORCE THIS SIGNAGE AND DIRECT ALL TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS OF OUR SITE, CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS VACANT. LAND IS BRINGING IN TOTAL OF ABOUT $6,450 TO EASTPOINTE ANNUALLY, ALONG WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO THE AIRPORT CITY. OUR PROPOSED USE WOULD INCREASE THESE TAXES BY 1,100%, GENERATING OVER $100,000 ANNUALLY DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY. OTHER BENEFITS INCLUDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES WE PLAN TO HAVE VACANT HAVE OCCUPIED THESE PROPERTIES AND SALES TAX GENERATION TO LOCAL BUSINESSES. THE. OUR SITE IS CURRENTLY A PART OF A OF AN ASSOCIATION SOUTH METRO EAST. THAT ASSOCIATION IS GOVERNED BY COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT CAREFULLY LIMIT THE PERMISSIBLE USES OF THIS PROPERTY. THESE INCLUDE ANY USES THAT WOULD MATERIAL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, ANY USE THAT WOULD CREATE VIBRATIONS, NOISE, ODOR, OR OTHER ADVERSE EFFECTS BEYOND THE BOUNDARY OF THE SITE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. CREATE A SUBSTANTIAL LIKELIHOOD OF WASTE. WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, CONSTITUTE ANY DANGEROUS OR UNSAFE USE. WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, AND INVOLVE THE GENERATION, TREATMENT, STORAGE OR DISPOSAL OF HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

SO WE FEEL THAT THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE REALLY ALIGNED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DESIRES FOR THIS SITE AS WELL AS OURS. TYPEKIT BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LARGE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES THAT ARE OFF OF THIS CAMP CREEK AREA, A LOT OF THESE ARE 300 TO 600,000 SQUARE FOOT TENANTS THAT DO GENERATE A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC. WE'RE TARGETING MUCH SMALLER, YOU KNOW, LOCAL BUSINESSES, 20,000, YOU KNOW, A 10TH TO EVEN SMALLER OF THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. THAT WOULD REALLY JUST NOT GENERATE A WHOLE LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC. AND IF WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, WE TOOK SOME PICTURES OF LIKE KIND DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP MIDDLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF AUTOMOBILES PARKED THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO WORK EVERY DAY. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AT THE TRUCK COURTS, THERE'S REALLY LITTLE TO NO TRUCK ACTIVITY.

THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY ON A WEDNESDAY. MOVING ON. WE HAVE CONDUCTED SOME SITE IMPACT STUDIES THROUGH OUR PARTNER KIMLEY-HORN, ONE BEING A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN

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NOVEMBER WITH THE CONCLUSION WAS THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL TRAFFIC IMPACT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS STUDIED OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD AND WAS DETERMINED TO BE OF LOW IMPACT. AND ALSO A NOISE STUDY IN THE NOISE STUDY WAS DEVELOPED PER THE EASTPOINTE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE NOISE LEVELS. THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL PARCEL TO OUR SITE WAS AROUND 800FT AWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY SITS IN THE CITY OF SOUTH FULTON, BUT THAT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE NOISE LEVELS WOULD BE BELOW THE DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE NOISE LEVELS. AGAIN, THAT WAS ABOUT 800FT FROM OUR SITE, THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL PARCEL IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE IS OVER THREE TIMES FURTHER AWAY THAN THAT, ABOUT 2100FT OR 2500FT. EXCUSE ME. AND CLEARLY, WITH BEING THREE TIMES FURTHER AWAY, THAT ONE ALSO STAYED BELOW THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE NOISE LEVELS. SO JUST TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT SEEKING A REZONING. WE ARE SEEKING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ON AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE SITE. THIS PARCEL JUST JUST REALLY CANNOT BE DEVELOPED INTO ANY OTHER USE. WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SHOWN. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S AN ADAPTIVE REUSE. AND THERE HAS TO BE A STRUCTURE BUILT TO BE ADAPTIVELY REUSED. AND THAT THAT PROPERTY ALSO SITS ON THE BELT LINE WHERE IT SITS ON AN INDUSTRIAL PARK ROAD. YOU KNOW, NO TRAFFIC IS TRAVERSING THAT ROAD OTHER THAN GOING TO THE EXISTING WAREHOUSES ON THAT ROAD. SO I'D LIKE TO RESERVE THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME FOR REBUTTAL, AND I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MADAM MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL. AND SO, MADAM CITY CLERK, DID YOU GET THE TIME THAT HE STARTED? I THINK IT WAS AROUND 8:00. IT IS NOW 807.

THERE'S ONLY 15 MINUTES PER SIDE AND WE HAVE TO CALL PEOPLE FOR AND AGAINST ON THOSE 15 MINUTES.

SO, COUNCIL, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO EXTEND TIME AND I'M ASSUMING MAYBE I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CALCULATE REBUTTAL TIME. BUT HE'S RESERVED SO WE'VE NOTED IT. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ONE AT A TIME. THEY DON'T LIVE HERE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN. MY NAME IS JEROME WILLIAMS. I AM THE SITE DIRECTOR OF MARTIN BRIER, WHICH IS A DISTRIBUTION CENTER. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR OUR RULES. THANK YOU. JEROME WILLIAMS, 4261 SOUTH MEADOW PARKWAY. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS OR YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS? OKAY, SO YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. I WORKED BEEN WITH MARTIN BRIER FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. IT'S A DISTRIBUTION CENTER JUST RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PARTICULAR LOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

WE EMPLOY 340 EMPLOYEES IN THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY. ABOUT 115 DRIVERS. JUST AS HE STATED EARLIER, WE COME OUT OF THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER PARKING LOT, WE GO LEFT AND GO TO CAMP CREEK.

WE DON'T GO RIGHT INTO THE INDUSTRIAL, INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN AN AWESOME AREA FOR OUR DISTRIBUTION CENTER. WE'VE RECRUITED A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE EASTPOINTE AREA THAT WORK IN OUR FACILITY, AND THEY ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE THEMSELVES. A LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL NOTE I COME FROM THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT. I COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN A STATISTIC IN MY SMALL TOWN, IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE A DISTRIBUTION CENTER CAME INTO THE AREA AND PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO ADVANCE MYSELF IN A CAREER AND EVENTUALLY BECOME A SITE DIRECTOR OF A FACILITY. STARTED OUT AS AN AUTO FILLER AND WORKED MY WAY UP THROUGH LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT EDUCATION REIMBURSEMENT. GOT MY MASTER'S DEGREE ALL THROUGH DISTRIBUTION TYPE WORK. SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEEN A POSITIVE THING FOR A LOT FOR MYSELF AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN MY FACILITY RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE SUPPORT THIS THIS PURCHASE AND THIS PROJECT. WE JUST THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS PERRY PETERSON. I'M AT 4261 SOUTH MEADOW. THAT IS NOT MY PERSONAL ADDRESS. WE'RE THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THAT BUILDING AND THE PARCEL IN QUESTION AT 4100 SOUTH MEADOW, THE. WE ACQUIRED 4261, WHICH WAS ACQUIRED BY LONE OAK EAST POINT IN 2011. AND WE OPENED THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER THERE IN 2013, WE ACQUIRED 4100 SOUTH MEADOW IN 2018, AND AT THAT TIME AN APPROVED BUILDING

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WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE SITE HAD BEEN GRADED AND UTILITIES AND PUT IN THAT BUILDING WAS 230,000FTā– !S WITH A 40 FOOT MAX. IT HAD 210 AUTO PARKING SPACES, 38 TRUCK SPOTS AND UPWARDS OF 51 DOCKS. THE BUILDING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY GREYSTAR TODAY IS ABOUT 10% LESS THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2017, AND CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN 2018. WHEN WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY, WE ACQUIRED IT WITH THE INTENTION TO BUILD OUT THAT INDUSTRIAL, BUT WITH CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY, WE PAUSED THAT PROJECT AND NOW ARE LOOKING TO SELL THAT PROPERTY. SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS AN ORGANIZATION IS OUR VALUES. AND IT WAS INTERESTING FOR ME, LOOKING THROUGH YOUR VALUE SYSTEM IS THAT IT'S ALIGNED WITH OUR PRIDE, VALUES, PEOPLE, RELATIONSHIPS, INTEGRITY, DEDICATION AND EXCELLENCE. AND THE VALUES ON YOUR WEBSITE ARE VERY SIMILAR. YOU HAVE STRATEGIC GOALS OF BEING THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER, SAFE AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY IN GEORGIA, INVITING AND BEING AN INVITING PLACE FOR INDUSTRY TO DEVELOP, AND A BUSINESS FRIENDLY CITY THAT MAINTAINS DIALOG WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES TO PROVIDE A POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT. AND I DON'T THINK THE USE AT THIS SITE AND WHAT GREYSTAR IS PROPOSING IS DISCONTIGUOUS WITH THAT GOAL. THOSE VALUES ARE OUR VALUES. THE SITE IS INDUSTRIAL. MARTIN BRAUER, WHO JUST SPOKE BEFORE ME, IS THE PROPERTY NEXT TO US. THAT'S A FREEZER BUILDING. THEY HAVE A LARGE AMMONIA REFRIGERATION SYSTEM. THE ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY RAIL. SO THAT'S A RAIL SIDING THAT SERVES MARTIN BRAUER. AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS INDUSTRIAL AS WELL, WITH CHANGES IN ADVANCEMENT IN HOW INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS ARE BUILT. THEY'RE NOT THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS OF THE 50, 60, 70 AND 80. THESE ARE MODERN INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, THINGS LIKE WHITE ROOFS TO LIMIT HEAT, ISLAND EFFECT, PAVEMENT TO LIMIT HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. AND THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND THE REDUCED TRAFFIC. WELL, IT'S THINGS LIKE IDLING PROGRAMS THAT HAVE REDUCED THE IDLING OF TRUCKS ON SITE AS WELL. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE REVIEWING THIS PROJECT, AND I'M STANDING UP HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE US FROM GREYSTAR. SO THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR IS NOW 8:12 P.M. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. THAT WOULD BE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. COME ONE AT A TIME. GOOD. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR ME. MY NAME IS SCOTTY BOYD. MY ADDRESS IS 42, 75, 4274 SAVANNAH DRIVE, ATLANTA, GEORGIA. 30349. SO MY HOME IS LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM HERE. THERE'S AN OLDER SUBDIVISION THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEN THERE'S THE NEWER SUBDIVISION. WELL, YOU KNOW, SAVANNAH WALK. THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. THAT'S A TWO LANE ROAD COMING OFF OF CAMP CREEK. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER COME OFF OF CAMP CREEK TO GO DOWN WELCOME ROAD, BUT YOU WILL TEAR YOUR CAR UP WITH THE WAY THAT THE STREETS ARE THE STREETS. AND I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE WHEN WE FIRST GOT IN. I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T SEE MY STREET ON THAT LIST, BUT THE STREET IS HORRIBLE AND I RESPECT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IN REFERENCE TO THE, THE, THE TRUCKERS, THE WORKERS COMING OUT OF THAT FACILITY AND TAKING A LEFT. THAT IS NOT TRUE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I LEAVE AND I GO TO WORK EVERY MORNING AT 7 A.M. I GET STUCK BEHIND AN 18 WHEELER GOING UP TO BILL COOK ROAD. SO THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND THIS LET ME BE CLEAR, THIS IS A COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. BEFORE MICROSOFT CAME TO THAT AREA, THERE WERE HOUSES ON THAT PROPERTY. THERE WERE 3 OR 4 HOUSES ON THAT PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHEN AND HOW IT GOT ZONED AS COMMERCIAL, BUT IS IT NOT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? I WALKED WE WALK OUR DOGS THROUGH THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE WAY THROUGH SAVANNAH, WALK UP DOWN THE SIDEWALK. THANK YOU FOR THE SIDEWALK, BY THE WAY, WHICH TELLS ME IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. YEAH. WE DON'T. THERE'S ALSO A WAREHOUSE BEHIND OUR SUBDIVISION. WHO? AND WE HAVE PETS AND THEY BARK ALL NIGHT LONG. I'M SO THANKFUL THAT MY NEIGHBORS DON'T COMPLAIN, BECAUSE ALL THEY HEAR IS THE CLACKING AND BUMPING AND SHAKING AND STUFF THAT GOES ON ALL NIGHT LONG AT THAT WAREHOUSE. SO NOW Y'ALL EXPECT FOR US TO HAVE IT BEHIND OUR HOME AND IN FRONT OF OUR HOME. SO I'M I'M, I'M I REJECTING THIS PLAN FOR THIS NEW WAREHOUSE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE MICROSOFT THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILDING THERE. SO WE'RE

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GOING TO HAVE MICROSOFT TRAFFIC. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MCDOWELL'S TRAFFIC, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST ALL OF THESE TRANSFER TRUCKS, ALL OF THESE EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO EMPLOY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO EMPLOY PEOPLE. AND JUST TO MENTION, I'VE NEVER RAN INTO ANYBODY AT CAMP CREEK IN THE STORE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WORKS AT THAT FACILITY. OKAY. LET'S BE CLEAR ON THAT. NOT A SINGLE ONE. AND I'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER TEN, 12 YEARS, NEVER RAN INTO A SINGLE PERSON THAT'S EMPLOYED AT THAT FACILITY. PROBABLY WON'T WORK. IT WON'T RUN INTO A SINGLE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE EMPLOYED AT THAT MICROSOFT FACILITY. SO IF THEY WANT TO COME INTO OUR AREAS, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND TURN THEM INTO THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS, THAT THAT TO ME, THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO AGAIN, WE HAVE ONE BEHIND US NOW. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE IN FRONT OF US. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 3 OR 4 IN FRONT OF US. SO WHEN I'M LEAVING TO GO TO WORK, I HAVE TO BE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL WHEN I'M COMING OUT ONTO THE LITTLE SMALL TWO LANE HIGHWAY THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A BIG 18 WHEELER THAT'S TRYING TO TURN ON BILL COOK ROAD, AND THEN SOMEBODY'S GOT TO BACK UP BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY DON'T DO IT. THEY ABSOLUTELY DO DO IT. AND THAT'S JUST MICROSOFT FOR RIGHT NOW. SO I OPPOSE THIS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN FIND OR CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE OLDER PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE OLDER PEOPLE WHO'VE LIVED THERE AND RAISED THEIR CHILDREN, AND NOW THEY LIVE THERE ALONE AND THEY WALK THEIR DOGS AND THEY ENJOY THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST AS IT IS. WE HAVE TO BE WHERE THE DEER IS BECAUSE NOW THE DEERS HAVE NOWHERE TO GO. THEY'RE IN THE STREETS, THEY'RE IN THE YARDS. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE I WON'T SAY TERRORIZING BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE FIRST, BUT EVERYTHING IS JUST IN DISARRAY. IT'S IN COMPLETE, UTTER DISARRAY. I HAVE THIS RED SUBSTANCE IN MY HOUSE NOW. THAT'S ALL OVER MY FURNITURE. AND I'M THINKING, WHY IS IT SO DUSTY? AND WHY IS THE DUST RED? WELL, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY. IT'S THE DIRT FROM WHERE THEY'RE BLOWING UP DIRT OVER ACROSS THE STREET TO BUILD THE TO BUILD THE MICROSOFT BUILDING. SO NOW Y'ALL WANT US TO JUST SAY IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO BRING IN MORE OF THAT? IT'S JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN COMPLETE DISARRAY. IT DOESN'T FEEL WELL. IT STILL ACTUALLY FEELS LIKE A SORT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD NOW. BUT IF WE ALLOW ALL OF THESE COMPANIES AND THESE FACTORIES AND THESE WAREHOUSES TO COME IN AND JUST INTRUDE ON WHERE WE CALL HOME, I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT AREA LIKE THAT. I WANT MY AREA TO BE MY PIECE, MY PLACE OF PEACE. THIS IS WHERE WHEN I LEAVE MY JOB, I COME HOME AND I CAN SHUT THE WORLD OUT AND I CAN BE AT PEACE. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISION, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL REJECT THEIR THEIR. BUILDING PERMIT FOR A NEW WAREHOUSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? CAN I GET A SHOW OF HANDS OF WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ONE, TWO. THREE.

FOUR. I GOT. SO IT'S ABOUT TIME. COME ON, COME ON, MISS, FOR MISS CARTER. NOT YET. I'M KEEPING TRACK RIGHT NOW. GOOD EVENING TO THE HONORABLE DANA INGRAM AND ALL THE EAST POINT COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CARMEN CARTER. I LIVE AT 4265 BEN HILL ROAD. AND I'M BASICALLY SAYING THE SAME THING THIS YOUNG LADY SAID, WE HAVE BEEN INUNDATED IN OUR COMMUNITY BY MICROSOFT, AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING US TO AGREE TO HAVE TWO WAREHOUSES BUILT THERE. THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY OUT OF CONTROL. DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, THERE WERE THREE ACCIDENTS THAT I PERSONALLY SAW ON THE BEN HILL CONNECTOR AND BEN HILL ROAD, WHERE THE TRUCKS WERE COMING OUT OF SOUTH MEADOW, OR TRYING TO GET INTO SOUTH MEADOW FROM CAMP CREEK PARKWAY. TWO OF THEM WERE INVOLVED WITH PASSENGER CARS, AND THE EAST POINT POLICE BLOCKED ALL THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS, AND WE COULDN'T GET INTO OUR SUBDIVISIONS AND OUR HOMES BECAUSE OF THE TRUCKS HAVING ACCIDENTS. AND THEN ONE TRUCK JACKKNIFED ACROSS THE ROAD AND THEY HAD TO CLOSE EVERYTHING. SO

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THAT MEANT WE HAD TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO GET HOME. AND IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC. SO I'M ASKING, AS A RESIDENT AND PART OF THE. COMMUNITY THAT YOU ALL PLEASE DON'T ALLOW ANY MORE INDUSTRIAL PARKS, ANY MORE WAREHOUSES, ANYTHING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT A HOME, A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BECAUSE WE ARE INUNDATED WITH WAREHOUSES, WITH TRUCKS, WITH INDUSTRIAL PARKS, MICROWAVE, MICROWAVE. I'M SORRY, MICROSOFT HAS JUST TAKEN OVER. AND IF YOU GO DOWN BEN HILL ROAD, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO LET GEORGIA POWER BUILD A SUBSTATION. THAT IS THE HUGE SUBSTATION THAT I'VE EVER SEEN. AND IF ANYTHING HAPPENS WHERE IT BLOWS UP, IT'S GOING TO BLOW UP OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT WRITTEN DOWN BEN HILL ROAD, I ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO COME DOWN AND LOOK AT JUST THE SUBSTATION THAT THEY HAVE BUILT. IT IS BEYOND ANYTHING ANYBODY CAN IMAGINE. IT'S LIKE WE'RE NOT PART OF THE COMMUNITY LIKE MICROSOFT HAS TAKEN OVER. NOW THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS WANT TO BUILD AND TAKE OVER. SO I'M ASKING YOU AT THIS TIME, PLEASE CONSIDER THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA AND NOT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THESE TWO WAREHOUSES THAT THEY WANT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KEISHA CHAPMAN. I'M AT 3400 PRINCE GEORGE STREET, AND I THINK I'M GOING TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME, BUT I JUST WANT TO PAINT A QUICK PICTURE. IN MY BACKYARD. I HAVE TWO TREES, AND I WANT TO PLANT A GARDEN. AND I HAVE FERTILE GROUND ON THAT LAND. BUT THOSE TREES SHADOW THE PLACES WHERE I CAN PLANT MY GARDEN. AND I THINK THAT ADDING NEW WAREHOUSES INTO THIS FERTILE CITY, THIS VIBRANT CITY, WILL BE JUST LIKE THOSE TREES THAT OVERSHADOW OPPORTUNITIES, AND IT WILL STIFLE GROWTH. AND SO I DON'T LIVE AS CLOSE AS THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT SPOKE. BUT I DO LIVE IN I DO LIVE IN WILLIAMSBURG, WHERE THE FOOD HOUSE, FOOD BANK, AN INDUSTRIAL AREA CAME IN AND DISRUPTED MY COMMUNITY. I HAVE HEARD COUNTLESS STORIES OF MICROSOFT, AND AS A RESIDENT OF EASTPOINT, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD. WE NEED TO DO BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE BUSINESS BUSINESSES THAT COME IN NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH THAN LOOKING AT OUR WEBSITES AND ALIGNING THEIR GOALS WITH WHO WE ARE, AND ACTUALLY TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT IS HERE. OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS ACTUALLY DONE SOME HOMEWORK IN SHOWING SOME ALTERNATIVES. AND SO IF YOU REALLY, TRULY CARE ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY AND OUR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND THE LONG TERM PLAN THAT WE HAVE, THEN YOU WOULD TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LEADERS IN THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PUT HERE AND WORKING HERE TO DEVELOP AND DO MORE THERE. SO I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO DENY THIS, BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK IT'S LIKE PUTTING A BIG TREE ON FERTILE GROUND, AND WE WILL NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW BUSINESSES LIKE THIS TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION TO ANY? GOOD EVENING. 2055 SEVEN ROAD MARIE TERRY I DON'T LIVE IN THAT AREA. I LIVE ON SEVERN ROAD AND I CAN KIND OF AGREE WITH THEM BECAUSE I BE HEARING IN BIG 18 WHEELERS FROM WALMART, THEY'LL COME HIT THE STREETS KIND OF SCARED. AND AT NIGHT YOU CAN HEAR THAT BIG OLD I THINK THAT'S A GENERATOR, BECAUSE IF I DON'T PLAY MY TV AT NIGHT AND I CAN HEAR THE HUMMING IN MY EAR FROM THE GENERATOR, BUT DOWN ON BEN HILL, I HAVE WALKED THAT AREA AND CAMP CREEK, IT IS COMBUSTED. AND FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO COME TO YOU GUYS

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AND ACTUALLY APPEAL TO YOU GUYS NOT TO HAVE THAT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, Y'ALL LIVE OUT THERE ON CAMP CREEK. Y'ALL DON'T WANT THEM BIG TRUCKS COMING INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WANT GREEN SPACE. WE WANT GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WANT PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WANT THESE BIG OLD TRUCKS. SURELY WE NEED SOME BUSINESSES IN THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DO NEED THAT. WE NEED SOME BUSINESSES. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO LONG TERM LEGACY RESIDENTS AND THOSE BIG 18 WHEELERS, Y'ALL NEED TO FIND ANOTHER SPOT. I WOULD SAY NO. ALSO, TO THOSE BIG TRUCKS GOING OUT AND BEING HEALED OR WORKING ON ROADS WHEN YOU GO DOWN. I BEEN DOWN THROUGH THERE. THERE BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S TRUE. BUT WHEN YOU COME INTO A PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THAT AND THE POLLUTION, NO. WE BRING HAD THAT OVER ON OAKLEY OVER IN JEFFERSON PARK.

WE BROUGHT ALL THEM BIG TRUCKS. SO Y'ALL SAY NO TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. MAYBE THEY CAN FIND SOME OTHER AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. POSITION. ARE YOU ASKING MAYOR COUNCIL PEOPLE? YEAH, I LIVE AT 4225 BEN HILL ROAD. MY NAME IS VANESSA WILLIAMS. AND YES, I'M ALSO OPPOSING THE WAREHOUSES. THERE'S I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE IS THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT. IT'S TOO MANY WAREHOUSES THERE ALREADY.

THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SOUTH AREA, SOUTH FULTON AND THE AND THE 18 WHEELERS ARE A PROBLEM. THEY TRYING TO GET ONTO CAMP CREEK.

118 WHEELER WILL BACK THE ENTIRE WELCOME ALL ROAD BACK UP BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TURN THEY CAN'T TURN EASILY. SO THEY HAVE TO SWING OUT TO TURN. SO THEY BLOCK BOTH LANES SO WE CAN'T GO LEFT OR RIGHT. WE HAVE TO WAIT ON THE 18 WHEELERS TO MOVE. AND THIS IS EVERY MORNING. AND FOLKS ARE TRYING TO GET TO WORK. FOLKS GOT THINGS TO DO. SO WE'RE JUST TIRED OF THE OF THE WAREHOUSES.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THEY CAN BUILD. THOSE PROPOSALS ARE BEAUTIFUL. I MEAN, I SAW THAT AND I WAS LIKE, WOW, WHY DON'T WE BUILD SOMETHING ELSE THERE? WE'RE JUST TIRED OF THE WAREHOUSES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU GUYS. THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION COME FORWARD. OKAY. SO AND I'LL SAY IT BEFORE YOU START TALKING. WE ARE AT ONE MINUTE LEFT, SO I'M GONNA PROBABLY STOP YOU AT IF YOU'RE NOT DONE AT 28 BECAUSE I HAVE TO TALK TO COUNCIL. OKAY. OKAY. MY NAME IS DECORUM JOHNSON I LIVE I LIVE AT 4345 SAVANNAH LANE, AND I OWN A FEW PROPERTIES ACTUALLY ALONG THE ROAD ON IN FRONT OF MICROSOFT, 4250 BEAN HILL ROAD AND 4595 BEN HILL ROAD. AND I COME THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME, LIKE EVERY DAY, CHECKING OUT PROPERTIES, DOING THINGS, AND COMING ACROSS THAT BRIDGE. I'M SURPRISED 18 WHEELERS EVEN ARE ABLE TO RUN THAT BRIDGE RIGHT THERE. WELCOME ALL. AND CAMP CREEK LIKE THAT BECAUSE LET ME HAVE YOU PAUSE REALLY QUICK. WE'VE REACHED 828. I'M SORRY. JUST STAY RIGHT THERE. OKAY. STAY RIGHT THERE. WHICH IS 15 MINUTES. OKAY. FOR OPPOSITION AND PER OUR RULES.

HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. BY MAJORITY VOTE, THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS, PROVIDED THAT EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. SO WE HAVE. WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? DECORUM. JOHNSON. MR. JOHNSON, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? I HAVE ONE MORE. ANYBODY ELSE. SO COUNCIL AT THIS POINT, IN ORDER TO ALLOW MR. JOHNSON TO CONTINUE IN THE OTHER AT LEAST OTHER SPEAKER, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A MOTION TO INCREASE THE TIME. I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP TIME IF IT IS INCREASED UNTIL WE FINISH THE OPPOSITION SIDE, AND THEN I WILL ADD THE REMAINDER OF THAT TIME. THE DIFFERENCE TO THE OF THAT TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN FAVOR WAS 12 MINUTES. SO THERE'S THREE MINUTES LEFT RIGHT NOW, WHATEVER ADDITIONAL TIME IS TAKEN BY PEOPLE WHO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, I'LL ADD THAT TO THE SIDE THAT IS IN FAVOR, BUT IT REQUIRES A MOTION TO COUNCIL. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD ADDITIONAL TIME. SO THERE'S A MOTION TO ADD ADDITIONAL TIME.

WE COULD DO A MOTION TO INCREASE THE TIME PER SIDE. AND THEN I CAN TRACK THE TIME INCREASE. THE TIME FOR BOTH SIDES. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND THEN MOVED PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES, MR. JOHNSON. HOLD ON.

THIS IS 830 THAT WE'RE STARTING. YOU CAN GO AHEAD. YEAH. LIKE I WAS SAYING, THE BRIDGE FOR ONE

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CROSSING OFF, COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, GOING TO CAMP CREEK. THAT NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME. YOU KNOW THE 18 WHEELERS, YOU GET 218 WHEELERS RIGHT THERE. IT'S DONE. YOU SIT THERE FOR 5 OR 10 MINUTES TRYING TO WAIT FOR THEM TO TURN EITHER RIGHT OR LEFT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO VEER OUT. AND THEN I HAVE ALMOST GOT HIT IN THERE A COUPLE TIMES AND THEY GET ON WITH IN THAT RIGHT LANE HEADING UP TOWARDS THE TRAIN TRACKS AND STUFF. I MEAN, MY THIS SITE RIGHT HERE, AND THEY'LL BE IN THAT RIGHT LANE THERE. JUST COME OVER ON YOU. I HAD IT MANY TIMES, MAN. AND THAT THAT JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE. AND THEN AND THE SIGNAGE OVER IT, YOU KNOW, SAYING THEY CAN'T GO PAST THIS POINT, WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING BETTER THAN THAT. I'M ON 45, 95.

I JUST GOT FROM UNDER THE HOUSE IN THE CRAWL SPACE. 18 WHEELER COMING THROUGH THERE. I HAVEN'T HAD MY MAILBOX TAKEN OUT SEVERAL TIMES RIGHT THERE AND I HAD TO REPLACE IT. I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE THEY TORE THE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK OFF. THIS IS JUST GETTING OUT OF HAND WITH THE WAREHOUSING, MAN. WE GOT TO GET IN A POSITION WHERE IT LOOKS WE CAN'T LOOK FOR 20 AND 30 YEARS.

WE NEED TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD LIKE VIABLE BUSINESS. THESE WAREHOUSES ARE GOING TO BE BLIGHTS IN 20 OR 30 YEARS. LOOK AT WALMART, WALMART BUILDINGS. IT'S GOING TO LOOK JUST LIKE THAT. WHAT ARE WE BUILDING THEM FOR? IT'S SHORT TERM. SO I REALLY JUST OPPOSE ALL THIS MAN.

I'VE BEEN OVER HERE SINCE 2005 AND THIS HAS GOT OUT THERE WAY OUT OF HAND, MAN. WAY OUT OF HAND. WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEM TWO HOUSES ON THE HILL, I KNEW THE OLDER GENTLEMAN THAT LIVED IN THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE HILL THAT HE BOUGHT FROM, BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM, TRIED TO GET ME TO BUY THE HOUSE SO THEY COULDN'T GET THE HOUSE, BUT I JUST WENT IN THE POSITION. BUT I DIDN'T WANT MICROSOFT OVER HERE. THIS IS A COMMUNITY, NOT A BUSINESS, SO WE NEED TO DO BETTER, MAN. AS FOR THE CITY AND LOOK LONG TERM MAN, 30 YEARS, 20 YEARS IS NOT GOING TO DO IT. AND THE WAREHOUSE IS.

THIS IS USUALLY WHAT THEY LAST 20, 30 YEARS. AND THEN THEY GONE ON ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS AND WE LEFT WITH ALL THAT MESS TO CLEAN UP. SO I OPPOSE IT. THANK YOU. YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MONICA BRUTON, 4620 LEGACY SQUARE. I LIVE IN THE HERITAGE PARK AT EAST POINT SUBDIVISION.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TIME THIS EVENING. I WILL NOT TAKE TOO MUCH OF IT. I REMEMBER MOVING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ROUGHLY 22 YEARS AGO, AND I WAS VERY EXCITED TO PURCHASE MY FIRST HOME HERE IN EAST POINT, AND THE EXCITEMENT THAT CAME ALONG WITH IT. FAST FORWARD TO 2011 AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW, HERE COME WAREHOUSES. FAST FORWARD, HERE COMES MICROSOFT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER BEING PART OF ANY CONVERSATION THAT BROUGHT THOSE BUSINESSES HERE. THERE'S A STATEMENT MADE BY ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT SAID, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING HERE. WE'RE JUST ADDING ON TO IT. WELL, WHEN WE DIDN'T APPROVE WHAT HAPPENED THERE THE FIRST TIME, ADDING TWO, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT BETTER. WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC COMING FROM CAMP CREEK PARKWAY, BUT WE FORGET I WALKED. MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE HAVE SEEN ME WALK THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, GOING OUT ON TO BEN HILL, GOING OUT OVER TOWARDS THE SHELL STATION, EVERYTHING JUST WALKING AROUND. AND HOW MANY TRUCKS DO WE SEE COMING IN OFF OF FAIRBURN ROAD, COMING IN, TRYING TO FIND THEIR WAY BECAUSE WAYFINDING TOLD THEM TO GO THAT WAY. WE CAN PUT SIGNS OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG, AND YOU WILL STILL SEE THAT SOME TRUCKS WILL WANT TO COME OUT OF THE OUT OF THE AREA AND TURN RIGHT AND GO. AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE TINY SIGN THAT SITS ABOUT YEA HIGH THAT SAYS NO TRUCKS AND THAT THEY GO DRIVING ALONG, DISRUPTING OUR WAY OF LIFE. WE ARE LOOKING FOR PEACE. WE ARE LOOKING FOR QUIET. THIS IS HOME 20 PLUS YEARS OF MY LIFE. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE NEXT 20 IN MY HOME. I'M READY TO INVEST IN MY PROPERTY, MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE PEACE AND ENJOYMENT THAT COMES WITH IT. THAT'S ALL I ASK FOR, AND I'M SURE MY NEIGHBORS WOULD APPRECIATE THE SAME THING. SO I OPPOSE ADDING ANYTHING ELSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF I HAD MY DRUTHERS, I'D BACKTRACK A FEW YEARS AND SAY, MICROSOFT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GOODBYE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION? ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION? SO THAT WAS A TOTAL OF ADDITIONAL FOUR MINUTES TO 834. AND SO WITH THE THREE MINUTES ON THE FAVOR SIDE PLUS FOUR, THAT'LL BE SEVEN MINUTES REMAINING ON FOR REBUTTAL OR FOR ANYBODY WHO IS IN FAVOR AT THIS TIME CAN COME FORWARD. THERE'S SEVEN MINUTES REMAINING. ANYONE IN FAVOR OR FOR REBUTTAL? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR

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AND COUNCIL, FOR THE ADDITIONAL TIME. JUST TO REITERATE SOME OF THE POINTS WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY HIT ON. YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS SITE HAS ALREADY BEEN CLEARED. GRADED INFRASTRUCTURE PUT IN FOR THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE INTEND TO BUILD. THIS SITE IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DIFFICULT JOB AS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS BECAUSE WE DO FACE OPPOSITION. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU LOOK FOR IS A SITE THAT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND THAT IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED ON EVERY SIDE BY EXISTING INDUSTRIAL USE. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS SITE IS. IT IS MEANT FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IT WILL ONLY BE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR? ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR? ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR? CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM MAYOR? YES, COUNCILMAN. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT AND TO WHO SPOKE IN REFERENCE TO THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY, THEY HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY NEVER SAID WHAT THEIR ADDRESS IS. THEY GAVE THEIR BUSINESS ADDRESS. BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THERE ARE NO WAREHOUSES WHERE THEY LIVE. BUT IT'S ALWAYS WHAT'S BEST FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. BUT WHEN THEY GO TO THEIR COMMUNITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, THE HONKING OF THE HORNS, THE BEEPING OF THE BUILDINGS, THE LOUD GENERATORS, THE TRAFFIC. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. AND FOR THE DEVELOPER TO TELL US WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE, AS IF HE MAKES A DECISION FOR EVERYBODY UP HERE, BUT HE DON'T MAKE A DECISION FOR ME, BECAUSE I DO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS MISS SMITH, BECAUSE WHAT HE SAID WAS IT'S ZONED FOR THAT, AS IF WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT. BUT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN GO IN THAT AREA AS WELL. YES, COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE, THERE ARE OTHER PERMITTED USES BY RIGHT THAT WILL BE ALLOWED IN THIS AREA. THIS PARTICULAR USE AND WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE WAREHOUSES ARE A USE PERMIT FOR I ONE. THAT TEXT AMENDMENT WAS DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO FOR THE INTENT AND PURPOSE FOR THIS BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SECOND, LOOK AT THE TYPES OF USES THAT COME INTO THIS AREA. SO ONE OF THE USES COULD BE A RESTAURANT STYLE BUSINESS. WITH THE MOVIE THEATER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU, AND I YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES. THANK YOU. AND BEFORE I EVEN START MY CONVERSATION, CAN YOU PULL UP THE COMMUNITIES YOU HAVE ON YOUR SLIDE? YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY CIRCLE? YES. THAT ARE IMPACTED BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT RIGHT HERE. THE PRESENTER SAID THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO IMPACT COMMUNITIES. BUT ALL OF THESE CIRCLES ARE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. ONE OF THESE CIRCLES IS THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN. BUT I THINK WHAT IS MOST DISHEARTENING IS I HAVE TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SCHWARTZ SAID IN.

THE MAYOR TOUCHED ON THIS AT THE LAST TIME THIS CAME BEFORE US WAS THE NO EXPECTATIONS OR LITTLE EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR CITY. IN THESE COMMUNITIES THAT WE LIVE IN. I FREQUENT THE LEE WHITE THAT YOU PULLED UP AS A POSSIBILITY. THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER POSSIBILITIES MENTIONED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING WHERE THEY CAME BEFORE US, BUT WESTON WAS ABANDONED. I MEAN, IT WAS ABANDONED, BUT THEY HAD A VISION AND WE NOW HAVE THE BEST END. NOW WE HAVE THE BEST END WITH NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING IT. IT'S A WALKABLE PLACE, SO THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS FOR

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WHAT THIS SPACE CAN BE. AS I SAID BEFORE, AS A CITY, WE NEED TO TURN THE PAGE ON INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. MOST CITIES ARE USING THESE SPACES AND TURNING THEM INTO FOOD HALLS, CREATIVE SPACES. AND LATELY HERE, BECAUSE PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAD THE FORETHOUGHT, FORETHOUGHT, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON SO THAT WE COULD GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER. WE NOW HAVE A SYLVAN ROAD PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMING TO THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. LASTLY, THE RESIDENTS THAT RESIDE IN THIS COMMUNITY, INCLUDING MYSELF, WORKED HARD WITH OUR MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHWARTZ AND OTHER RESIDENTS TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, THIS MICROSOFT PROJECT IS A BIG DEAL. AND WE WERE IN THAT FIGHT FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO GET MICROSOFT TO LISTEN TO US. WE HAVEN'T COME THIS FAR TO TURN BACK NOW, AND I JUST FEEL THAT MY COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANOTHER WAREHOUSE IN THE AREA. SO WE HAVE TO HOLD THESE DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO COME INTO OUR CITY. WE HAVE TO HOLD THEM TO A STANDARD THAT THIS IS NO LONGER THE STANDARD.

WAREHOUSES ARE NO LONGER THE STANDARD. SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO YIELD SO THAT I CAN HEAR FROM MY OTHER COLLEAGUES. SO INTERESTING. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN AND WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT WAREHOUSES, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THEM IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S A LOT MORE DISCUSSION. BUT I WILL SAY THIS. WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT? MISS SMITH? MEANING WHAT WHAT IS SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, ISN'T IT, THAT THEY HAVE TO SHARE WITH US WHAT THEY INTEND TO USE IT FOR SO THAT IT CAN BE APPROVED? THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT OF THE USE PERMIT IS TO SPECIFICALLY SAY, WHAT TYPE OF USES ARE GOING TO GO ON SITE. WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THAT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION, BUT THEY'RE UNCLEAR AT THIS POINT, WHICH WHAT THE WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL, BECAUSE WE WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS WOULD END UP IN THE WAREHOUSE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO KNOW. NOW. THANK YOU. SO DO YOU KNOW IF THE APPLICANT PLANS ON GOING TO THE PD TO PULL ANY KIND OF ER PERMITS OR STORMWATER PERMITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WILL BE BASED ON THE TYPE OF USE, THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WILL OCCUPY THE WAREHOUSE, WHETHER THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, WHAT'S GOING TO WHAT THE BUSINESS WILL BE USED FOR, WHAT TYPE OF WAREHOUSE, WHAT TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION IT WOULD BE, WHAT IS THE MATERIALS, WHAT IS THE PRODUCT. AND BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT, THERE'S NO WAY TO SAY IF THEY WOULD NEED TO PULL ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT. OKAY. AND A COUPLE SLIDES IN THE BEGINNING THERE HAD SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF QUOTE UNQUOTE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY DEFINE WHAT THAT IS, DO WE, THAT THEY WOULDN'T STORE OR PRODUCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT QUOTE UNQUOTE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL? DO WE KNOW OR ARE THERE ANY CONDITIONS OR STIPULATIONS ON WHAT THAT DEFINITION IS? OUR ZONING ORDINANCE DOES ACCOUNT FOR THE TYPE OF MATERIALS, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED IN INDUSTRIAL. SO WE DO HAVE A LISTING OF WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT AGAIN, WHAT THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE. SO IT'S NO WAY FOR US TO, TO SPECIFY OKAY. AND IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES, DO WE CURRENTLY PREVENT PEOPLE FROM STORING LITHIUM BATTERIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK INTO THE LISTING, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. AND DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE? HAVE WE PLACED ANY CONDITIONS ON THE APPLICANT? WE HAVE NOT PLACED ANY CONDITIONS ON THE APPLICANT BECAUSE IT WAS WE RECOMMENDED DENIAL OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS. YES. AND WHY DID YOU RECOMMEND DENIAL? DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTIES OF THE DETAILED TRAFFIC REPORT, DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES,

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DEALING WITH THE LIGHT, NOISE, TRACTOR TRAILER, TRAFFIC, AIR, WATER QUALITY, ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE UNSURE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS WOULD BE IN THE FACILITY THAT THEY PLAN TO BUILD. SO AGAIN, FUNDAMENTALLY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS A BURDEN TO PROVE OR TO SHARE WHAT THEY INTEND TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR SO THAT COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A PERMITTED USE. WE ALL HAVE CONDITIONS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'VE SAID WE JUST GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MARKET IT TO PEOPLE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO COME, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THESE THINGS. THE INTENT OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS SO THAT COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER WHAT THE INTENDED USE IS AND MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. SO THE APPLICANT HASN'T CLEARED THAT HURDLE, BECAUSE EVEN TONIGHT WE STILL DON'T KNOW. IT'S IT CAN BE THIS, IT CAN BE THAT. IT CAN BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD TWO WAREHOUSES AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT PEOPLE IN THEM AND MARKET THEM. I SAID THIS AT THE MEETING AND THEN IT STILL WAS SAID TONIGHT BY THE DEVELOPER. THERE'S NOTHING ABLE NOT ABLE TO DEVELOP ANYTHING ELSE THERE. NOTHING ELSE IS SUITABLE. VERY LOW EXPECTATION DEVELOPMENT. TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE DESERVE. THE REASON WHY THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL WAS CHANGED TO MAKE THIS REQUIREMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL. OF INDUSTRIAL IS VERY INTERESTING.

IF YOU OVERLAY THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE CIRCLED WITH THE COMMUNITY CIRCLE, WITH THE CIRCLE THAT THEY'VE DRAWN ON THE OTHER MAP, IT LITERALLY WOULD INTERSECT AND PROBABLY TOUCH MR. WILLIAMS'S HOUSE, MISS CARTER'S HOUSE, MISS FLO'S HOUSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL RIGHT THERE ON THAT SAME STREET.

AND THEN PROBABLY SOME OF HERITAGE PARK AND ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS. ā– I THINK IT'S. VERY CHALLENGING. TO HEAR. WE'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD INDUSTRIAL. WE BOUGHT LAND. WE PUT THE, THE PUT THE STUFF ON THE SITE TO DO INDUSTRIAL, KNOWING THAT WE HAD TO COME GET PERMISSION. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, DIDN'T EVEN SHARE THAT ADDRESS THEIR HOME ADDRESS. THEY SHARED THEIR BUSINESS ADDRESS, AND WE HAD RESIDENTS WHO CAME AND SHARED THEIR HOME ADDRESS BECAUSE THEY LIVE HERE AND THIS IMPACTS THEM. AGAIN. WHEN THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS GO OTHER PLACES, WE HAVE A LOT MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE UNSUITABILITY WHERE WE INTEND TO GROW AS A CITY AND THE INTENT BEHIND MAKING THESE CHANGES TO THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT SO THAT COUNCIL CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S COMING INTO THESE VACANT INDUSTRIAL PLACES, BECAUSE THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE. THEY ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SAME THING THAT THEY PUT IN ATLANTA AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY CONVERT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS INTO AMAZING COMMUNITY SPACES AND PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GATHER, WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, WORKSHOP PLAY. WE TOO CAN HAVE THAT, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT THE MORATORIUM IN PLACE, WHICH IS WHY WE NOT HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT IS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. AND SO THE ULTIMATELY THE DECISION IS GOING TO BE UP TO THIS COUNCIL. BUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE HAVE SPOKEN, AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY'VE HAD TO COME DOWN QUITE A BIT. THIS AREA HAS REALLY BEEN IMPACTED BY DECISIONS THAT A LOT OF US INHERITED AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH MOVING FORWARD, WHICH AGAIN, WAS THE REASON FOR THE MORATORIUM, SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WERE GIVEN TO US THAT WE WALKED INTO IN A WAY THAT HONORS AND RESPECTS OUR COMMUNITY, TO FIND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS, NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

AND SO TO TELL US WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, TO TELL US. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE SUITABLE GOING TO GO HERE TO TELL US THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN YOUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE DON'T LIVE IN IS NOT WHAT I THINK OUR RESIDENTS WANT TO HEAR. AND I CAN IMAGINE IF YOU WERE SITTING

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IN A COMMUNITY MEETING IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND THESE DECISIONS WERE BEING MADE, YOU PROBABLY WOULD FEEL LIKE THEY FEEL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY LIVE HERE TO ANY BUSINESS THAT'S COMING IN, TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIFE. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I WAS NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE CONVERSATION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A MOTION TO DENY OR APPROVE, IN WHICH I THOUGHT WE HAD TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE FOR THE DISCUSSION, SO I DON'T THERE'S A MOTION TO FOR THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS SO WE CAN HAVE THAT. BEFORE. THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS APPROVED. SO WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL WAIT FOR SUBSEQUENT MOTION.

THEN. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. SO I'M NOT SURE. SO AS FAR AS CONDITIONS. SO WE HAVEN'T STARTED TALKING ABOUT CONDITIONS IN THE EVENT THAT IT WOULD BE APPROVED. I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A MOTION MADE WITHOUT CONDITIONS. IF THERE CANNOT BE CONDITIONS, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. SO. SO SOMEBODY SO THAT'S FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON FURTHER DISCUSSION. NOT AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE MADAM MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, DO WE HAVE TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING? NO. OKAY. IT'S ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA. OKAY. DOES THE RECOMMENDATION FROM BOTH STAFF AND PLANNING AND ZONING IS DENIAL. I MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DENY THE USE PERMIT REQUEST TO DEVELOP TWO WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION BUILDING AT ZERO WELCOME ROAD.

SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLAND. IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION TO APPROVE? IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED TO APPROVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I SECONDED THE MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLI BECAUSE I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS A SITE THAT IS ALREADY ZONED INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND I DID HEAR SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME HERE TO SAY THAT THEY DID NOT WANT ANY MORE INDUSTRIAL IN THEIR COMMUNITY. WHAT I'M ALSO STATING HERE IS THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE AND OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE, I THINK THAT DIRECTOR SMITH PUT UP A SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF PERMITTED USES. I THINK THAT THE COUNT IS 33 THAT PERMITTED USES THAT COULD GO ON THAT SITE. IS THAT CORRECT, MISS DIRECTOR SMITH? YES. SO THERE COULD BE STILL INDUSTRIAL ON THIS SITE BECAUSE IT IS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND THOSE PERMITTED USES WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND ZONING OR COME BEFORE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND SO THAT WOULD BE OF A CONCERN TO ME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE ARE TO VOTE NO ON THIS, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT INDUSTRIAL IS NOT COMING. IT JUST MEANS THAT IT'S JUST NOT THIS WAREHOUSE, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED, WHICH IS WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT COULD BE A WHOLE NUMBER OF INDUSTRIAL USES ON THE SITE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND SO I DON'T WANT RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE HERE OR LISTENING, TO THINK THAT IF THIS BODY VOTES NO, THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WOULD NOT BE BUILT THERE BECAUSE THIS IS WITHIN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT IS ALREADY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND THE CITY BY LAW HAS 33 USES CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS THAT COULD GO THERE WITHOUT ANY KIND OF PROCESS THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING OR COUNCIL. THAT IS CORRECT.

HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE 33 USES. RIGHT? RIGHT. SOME OF THOSE USES ARE ONE OF THE USES. IS THE DATA CENTER CORRECT? YES, YES. SO THE RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANOTHER DATA CENTER. SO THE REASON THAT MICROSOFT HAD TO COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING, AND THIS BODY IS BECAUSE THEY WERE ASKING FOR SOME ENTITLEMENTS THAT WERE NOT THERE, THEY NEEDED EITHER REZONING OR SOME VARIANCES, BUT THEY WERE ASKING FOR SOME ENTITLEMENTS THAT WERE NOT THERE. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WITH THE SITE THAT HAS ALREADY CLEARED, A DEVELOPER COULD COME, AND AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE, THE, THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THEY COULD BUILD ANOTHER DATA CENTER, THE DATA CENTER ISSUE IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE WITH THE DATA CENTER

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USE, YOU ACTUALLY NEED A SUBSTATION. AND SO THE SUBSTATION USE, WHICH WOULD BE I, I WOULD SAY AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE DATA CENTER IS NOT A PERMITTED USE. SO THAT WAS THE CHALLENGE WITH THE DATA CENTER AND WHY THEY HAD TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL. SO IN THIS I ONE ZONING CATEGORY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMITTED USES ARE ACCESSORY USES CORRECT? YES. AND SO IN THE ACCESSORY USES THEN THAT SUBSTATION WOULD NOT BE A PART OF THE ACCESSORY USE FOR THE PERMITTED USE THAT IS LISTED ABOVE. IT WOULD NOT OKAY. BUT A DATA CENTER COULD BE BUILT ON THE SITE BECAUSE IT IS A PERMITTED USE. IT'S A PERMITTED USE. YES. OKAY. AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER USES LIKE AMBULATORY SERVICES. SO THERE COULD BE AMBULANCES ON THE SITE OR OTHER THINGS THAT COULD CAUSE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO QUALITY OF LIFE. BECAUSE OF THE 33 USES THAT WOULD BE LISTED AS PERMITTED USES. ANY OF THE USES PERMITTED ARE UNDER THE PERMITTED USE SECTION. YES. IS AMBULATORY AMBULANCE SERVICES OKAY? THAT'S CORRECT. SO I SO I GET CHALLENGED BY A NO VOTE WITHOUT ANY PARAMETERS. AND AS COUNCILMAN ZIEGLER WAS SPEAKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NO INDUSTRIAL USE IS GOING TO BE OR CAN BE BUILT THERE. IT JUST MEANS THAT THIS PARTICULAR USE, WHICH IS WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE, ACCORDING TO OUR CODE, REQUIRES A USE PERMIT. SO THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT USES WITHIN OUR CODE.

THERE ARE PERMITTED USES, ACCESSORY USES, ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT USES AND USE PERMITS. AND THIS IS ONE THAT FALLS UNDER USE PERMITS WHICH HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. CORRECT. CORRECT.

SO THERE ARE A WHOLE NUMBER OF UNDER OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES THAT COULD GO THERE. AND THEN WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONDITION THOSE. IF THEY'RE UNDER PERMITTED USES, BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I DID. SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER FRIENDLY'S MOTION. AND SO WITH THAT COUNCILMEMBER FRIEDLI, IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR THE WAREHOUSES AND FOR THE STORAGE, WHICH IS WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, I WOULD THEN OFFER CONDITIONS AROUND THOSE THINGS. AND SO THE FIRST CONDITION, I WOULD SAY THAT THE USE PERMIT ACTIVITY SHALL BE HOUSED ENTIRELY INSIDE OF AN ENCLOSED BUILDING. NUMBER TWO, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS NO INDUSTRIAL REFRIGERATION STORAGE USES ALLOWED. NUMBER THREE NO LITHIUM OR LITHIUM BATTERY STORAGE USES ALLOWED.

AND NUMBER FOUR, NO TRUCK IDLING WILL BE PERMITTED WHILE TRUCKS ARE STATIONED AT THE LOADING DOCK. IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT THOSE CONDITIONS AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT COMMISSIONER FREELY.

SO WE'RE AT CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. COUNCILMEMBER FRIENDLY. AND SO I HAVE A POINT OF QUESTION BECAUSE HERE'S THE REALITY. YOU'RE NOT THE CHAIR OF THIS BABY. THERE IS NO ORDINANCE ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA. THANK YOU TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A DESIRE BY THE PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL TO APPROVE IT. AND WHEN I GO BACK INTO DISCUSSION, IF WE CONTINUE, I WILL READ THE 33, BECAUSE THE ONES THAT WERE MENTIONED DON'T CAPTURE THE REST OF THE ESSENCE OF THIS AND THE REALITY THAT WE'RE HERE ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND THEY HAVEN'T TOLD US WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR. BUT RIGHT NOW, IN ORDER TO APPROVE AND A USE PERMIT, ONE IS THIS BY ORDINANCE, AND IF SO, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AN ORDINANCE THAT AWAITS THE FIRST READING. AND I'M ASKING THIS OF LEGAL. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST AN APPROVAL. ALL I SEE HERE IS A COUNCIL COVER. I DON'T SEE AN ORDINANCE. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FROM AN APPROVAL PERSPECTIVE. AND AS WE GET INTO CONDITIONS FROM THE DAIS, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON LEGAL TO WRITE DOWN ALL OF THIS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION. SO, MISS DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU IF YOU NEED TO REACH OUT TO OUR PLANNING AND ZONING ATTORNEY, YOU CAN DO STEP OUT AND DO THAT WHILE I CONTINUE WITH THEIR DISCUSSION. AND WE'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU COME BACK. BUT DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT? I DO, OKAY, HOLD ON A MINUTE. SO I

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HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS, THEN SHROPSHIRE, THEN COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS, AND THERE WAS A PROPOSAL OF A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR. TWO, I DIDN'T WRITE ALL THE CONDITIONS DOWN.

MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE DID, BUT GO AHEAD, MADAM DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I DID NOT WRITE DOWN ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO GET THAT. BUT WE THERE IS NOT AN ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT. IF THERE IS AN ATTORNEY WHO WORKS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, I CERTAINLY WOULD ASK TO SPEAK TO THAT PERSON. BUT FOR TONIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE. THAT'S ATTORNEY WIGGINS. CAN YOU SEE IF YOU CAN STEP OUT AND TALK WITH HER TO SEE GIVE HER A TEXT, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE IS. SHE SHOULD BE IN AIR RIGHT NOW. OH, SHE'S IN AIR.

YOU KNOW WHAT TIME SHE LANDS? I DO NOT KNOW. I DO KNOW SHE TOLD ME SHE'D BE BACK TONIGHT. SO SEE IF YOU CAN REACH HER. IF NOT, WE'LL LET THEM MOVE FORWARD, WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING. BUT MAYBE IF THE CONDITIONS CAN BE RESTATED SO THAT THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY CAN TALK WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING ATTORNEY AND ATTORNEY. WIGGINS. OKAY. ARE YOU READY? YES. OKAY. CONDITION NUMBER ONE, USE PERMIT. ACTIVITIES SHALL BE ENCLOSED ENTIRELY WITHIN AN ENCLOSED BUILDING. SHALL BE HOUSED ENTIRELY WITHIN A CLOSED BUILDING. WOULD I HEAR USE PERMIT ACTIVITY? ACTIVITY SHALL BE ENCLOSED WITHIN THE BUILDING ENTIRELY WITHIN THE BUILDING.

OKAY. ENTIRELY. YES. OKAY. I HAVE THE FIRST ONE. NUMBER TWO. NO. INDUSTRIAL REFRIGERATION STORAGE USES ALLOWED. REPEAT ONE MORE TIME FOR ME. NO INDUSTRIAL REFRIGERATION STORAGE USES ALLOWED. OKAY. NUMBER THREE, NO LITHIUM OR LITHIUM BATTERY STORAGE. USES ALLOWED. OKAY. AND NUMBER FOUR, TRUCKS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO IDLE WHILE STATIONED AT LOADING DOCKS.

OKAY, I HAVE THEM. THANK YOU. SO DO YOU WANT HIM TO ENTERTAIN YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT NOW, OR YOU WANT TO WAIT TO HEAR FROM LEGAL. THERE'S A REQUEST. SO COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY WOULD ENTERTAIN THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. YES. OKAY. WHO SECONDED I DID. OH YOU SECONDED.

CORRECT. FURTHER DISCUSSION. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO. COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE ATTORNEY FREEMAN. IF YOU COULD TRY TO REACH ATTORNEY WIGGINS, I WILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS SMITH. AT THE AGAIN THEY DID NOT STATE WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE CORRECT. OTHER THAN A WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHEN WAS THIS BROUGHT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING. AND THEN AT THE NOVEMBER IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING. WHEN IN NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 2024 AT 2024. OKAY. WHAT DAY, WHAT WAS THE DAY? THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING IN 2024 IN NOVEMBER. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE THIRD THURSDAY OF NOVEMBER. OKAY, I SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I'M GOING TO SHARE THIS BECAUSE I SAW I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT I SAW, BUT I BELIEVE AND I'M GOING TO AND THE ATTORNEY HAS WENT OUT. SO I FEEL THAT MR. ATKINS SHOULD REMOVE HIMSELF BECAUSE HE

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SAID ON PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH MEANS HE HAD A DISCUSSION AND IF IT WAS DENIED BY PLANNING AND ZONING, HE WAS PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE THINGS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE MESS THAT GO ON. BUT YOU CAN'T DENY SOMETHING THAT YOU NOW TURN AROUND AND WANT TO PUT CONDITIONS ON. YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. THEY DON'T WANT TRUCK TRAFFIC. SO HERE AGAIN, YOU'RE NEGOTIATING THEIR WELL BEING FOR WHAT? AND NOBODY EVEN KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO BE WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE. BUT YOU'RE NEGOTIATING THEIR WELL BEING. THEY SAID CLEARLY TRUCK TRAFFIC, THEY ARE INTIMIDATED BY WAREHOUSES AND THEY'RE TIRED OF IT. THEY'RE TIRED OF IT. BUT TO LET THAT FALL ON DEAF EARS IS CRAZY. BUT MISS MISS SMITH JUST SAID. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED, WHEN DID IT COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING? NOVEMBER. YOU WERE STILL THERE. THERE WAS A RUNOFF IN DECEMBER. COME ON, COME ON. WE THANK YOU. I NEED Y'ALL, SO WE GOTTA BE QUIET IN THE AUDIENCE. I SAID IT EARLIER. WE CAN'T HAVE ANY BACK AND FORTH OR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS AS BEST AS WE CAN. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, I'LL LET YOU CONTINUE. THANK YOU. BUT I WILL SAY, REMEMBER, REMEMBER THOSE WHO DON'T LISTEN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO LIVE OVER THERE. I DON'T LIVE IN THAT AREA, BUT I KNOW WHAT I'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH ZONING IN MY AREA. MR. FREELY DON'T LIVE OVER THERE, MISS ZIGLAR. DON'T LIVE OVER THERE. MISS MARTIN LIVES OVER THERE, MR. ATKINS, DON'T LIVE OVER THERE, MR. MITCHELL, DON'T LIVE OVER THERE. AND MISS CUMMINGS DON'T LIVE OVER THERE. BUT YOU DO. YOU HAVE TO HEAR. YOU HAVE TO BE BOTHERED WITH THE TRUCK TRAFFIC. YOU HAVE TO BE BOTHERED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GO ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT AFFECTS YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

BUT YET WE WANT TO SIT UP HERE AND HERE AGAIN, NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE. QUALITY OF LIFE. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED ON PLANNING AND ZONING. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I MY I ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE'S SENTIMENTS FOR SOMEONE WHO LITERALLY BRAGS ABOUT BEING A PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WANTED TO MAKE SUCH GREAT CHANGES IN EASTPOINTE'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU HEARD FROM PEOPLE FROM MY COMMUNITY, SO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO COMPROMISE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE WITH WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT? YOU PUT OUT AN ENTIRE VIDEO ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRONG WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN EASTPOINTE, AND WE COMPROMISING ON A WAREHOUSE. NOT ONCE DID YOU ASK THESE PEOPLE, WELL, WHAT ABOUT A FOOD HALL OR WHAT COULD COME? AND THEN YOU PULL OUT WHAT YOU WANTED, SPECIFICALLY THOSE 33 THINGS? CAN YOU PULL BACK UP THE 33 THINGS? MADAM DIRECTOR, YOU PULLED UP THE 33 THINGS, BUT OTHER THINGS CAN GO ON THAT SPACE. I SAW A GOLF COURSE. CAN YOU GO AHEAD? YEAH. AND ELECTRIC SUPPLY STORE, A HOME APPLIANCE REPAIR AND RELATED SERVICE.

LAUNDRY AND DRY CLEANING, PICKUP STATIONS, STATIONS GOING ON TO NEWSPAPER PUBLISHING FACILITIES, A OFFICE OF BUSINESS OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL PAINT, GLASS AND WALLPAPER STORES. WE HAVE TO TURN A PAGE ON WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN CAN YOU PULL BACK UP MY COMMUNITY AGAIN? YEAH. RIGHT HERE. ALL OF THIS IS PRIOR PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVAL. THESE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES ARE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVAL. WE HAVE TO TURN A PAGE ON THIS. WE SHOULD NOT BE COMPROMISING THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. WILL. AND DEALING WITH OUR LIVELIHOODS. WE LIVE ON A TWO LANE HIGHWAY. YOU CAN EITHER TURN RIGHT AND GO TOWARDS CITY OF SOUTH FULTON, OR YOU COULD TURN LEFT AND GO TOWARDS CAMP CREEK PARKWAY. AND THEN YOU'RE ROLLING THE DICE, SHAKING, TAKING YOUR CHANCES. BECAUSE IF MICROSOFT IS DOING COMMUNITY WORK THAT THAT DAY, YOU MAY NOT LEAVE BEING HILL ROAD, BUT TO SIT HERE AND COMPROMISE OVER THINGS THAT YOU BRAGGED ABOUT LIKE FIVE MONTHS AGO, BRINGING ALL OF THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE COMPROMISING ON WAREHOUSES. MISS CARTER LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD,

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AND SHE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE HER SEASON AGE. BUT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE. THIS SHOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC. NO. THEY AREN'T BRINGING ANYTHING TO THE CITY OR WAREHOUSE. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH ADDS INSULT TO INJURY, IS THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT IN THE WAREHOUSE. SO YOU WANT TO PUT CONDITIONS ON WHAT? YOU'RE GOING INTO SOMETHING BLINDLY.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. ONCE THEY GET THE PERMIT, THEY MAY BE SELLING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SELL BECAUSE WE'RE JUST IN THE DARK. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE DECENCY TO TELL US WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT THERE. THEY JUST WANT US TO BLINDLY SIGN OFF ON WAREHOUSES, ON WAREHOUSES. AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. THE FACT THAT YOU CAME WITH A MOTION TO SAY THAT THIS IS OKAY, AND YOU HEARD FROM THESE PEOPLE IS JUST DISGUSTING. IT REALLY, REALLY IS LIKE, WE NEED TO TURN THE PAGE. WE NEED TO TURN A PAGE. WE NEED TO TURN A PAGE. AND I AM STANDING WITH MY COMMUNITY. I'M STANDING WITH MY PEOPLE. I LIVE OVER HERE. AND NO, IT IS A NO VOTE FOR ME. WHY DON'T YOU ASK THEM TO BRING BACK SOMETHING BETTER? WHY DON'T YOU ASK THEM TO BRING A LEE IN WHITE OR A FOOD HALL, A FOOD HALL OR SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN ENJOY. THEY JUST WANT TO SHOVE THIS PROJECT DOWN OUR THROATS. AND LIKE MISS CARTER SAID, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN BEN HILL ROAD, THAT SUBSTATION IS AS BIG AS CITY HALL. WE DESERVE BETTER AND WE DO NOT DESERVE COMPROMISE. WE DON'T. THE ANSWER SHOULD BE NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE FIRST THING THAT I'LL SAY IS THAT YES, I HAVE SERVED ON THE EAST POINT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND I AM PROUD OF ANY OF THE CIVIC SERVICE THAT I'VE DONE IN THIS CITY, AND I STAND BEHIND THAT. SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT PROUD OF. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IF YOU GO BACK AND PULL THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THAT PARTICULAR MEETING WITH THIS ITEM FIRST CAME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING, I DID NOT FINISH PRESIDING OVER THE MEETING. THE VICE CHAIR DID. AND SO YOU PULLED THE MEETING MINUTES AND YOU WILL SEE THAT I DIDN'T VOTE ON THAT. THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT THE CHAIR DOES NOT VOTE ON PLANNING AND ZONING CASES UNLESS THERE IS A TIE. SO I HAVE NOT VOTED ON THIS BEFORE.

SO THAT'S A CORRECTION. AND SO I WILL ALSO STATE THAT I DON'T LIKE IT IF I'M TRYING TO GIVE A CITIZEN A FALSE HOPE. THIS LAND IS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. A CONDITION IS NOT A COMPROMISE.

AND OUR LAW STATES THAT THE USE THAT WE HAVE LISTED IS A WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE. AND SO THE TENANT HAS STATED THAT THEY DON'T KNOW. THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THE TENANTS WOULD BE. BUT OUR LAW DOES NOT SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO ALREADY HAVE THE PROPERTY LEASED UP. IF YOU CANNOT TELL US WHO THE TENANTS ARE GOING TO BE, IF THERE ARE ANY THINGS, ANY USES THAT I FEEL STRONGLY WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS WHY I MADE THOSE CONDITIONS AROUND INDUSTRIAL REFRIGERATION, AROUND LITHIUM AND LITHIUM BATTERIES, AROUND IDLING OF THE TRUCK. SO TO SAY THAT I'M NOT LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS IS ALSO FALSE, BECAUSE I HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR COMMUNITY. BUT THE LAND IS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I'VE ALSO HEARD FROM OTHER RESIDENTS WITHIN WARD D, WHO SAID THEY DON'T WANT SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL USES BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TRAFFIC ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO THERE IS AN ARGUMENT ON BOTH SIDES IN THE SITUATION WHERE THE LAND IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I WOULD MUCH RATHER PUT CONDITIONS ON A USE THAN TO VOTE NO AND ALLOW SOMETHING TO BE BUILT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO WEIGH IN ON, I YIELD. WAS THE DISTANCE FROM THIS PROPERTY IN RESIDENTIAL. WE SAW THE CIRCLE. WHAT'S THE DISTANCE? HOW MANY? IT'S HOW MANY FEET. 36. IT'S ABOUT 2600. YEAH. SO HERE'S THE CHALLENGE. USE IS PERMITTED THROUGH USE PERMIT ONLY. THE FOLLOWING USES MAY BE PERMITTED PER THE PROCEDURES AND STANDARDS SET FORTH IN ARTICLE D AT 610 DASH 2115 ET SEQ. IN THE I ONE DISTRICT, PROVIDED THAT SUCH USE SHALL BE AT LEAST 5280FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO 2600FT IS LESS THAN 5280FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD MEAN IT

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DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF EVEN A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I'M GOING TO GO TO I'M GOING TO GO TO ATTORNEY FREEMAN. EACH ACTION CAN ACTUALLY HAVE TWO SUBSTITUTE MOTIONS AT MOST. BUT I'M GOING TO GO TO MISS FREEMAN NOW, BECAUSE IF THIS IS LESS THAN 5280FTā– !S, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOESN'T APPLY. GO AHEAD, MISS FREEMAN. ATTORNEY FREEMAN. I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR. DO YOU WANT ME TO CHECK ON. SO YOU STEPPED OUT. DID YOU SPEAK WITH ATTORNEY WIGGINS? I'M WAITING TO GET A RESPONSE FROM HER. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT I THINK SHE MAY HAVE SENT YOU SOME INFORMATION AS WELL, SO I'M JUST WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM HER NOW. THOUGH. STAFF IS NOT ON, I DON'T. BY SO THAT LEGALLY SAYING THAT THEY CAN DRAFT ONE TONIGHT IF IT'S COUNCIL PERMISSION. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS MEETS THE QUALIFICATION AND WOULDN'T BE IN A LEGAL ORDINANCE BASED UPON OUR ZONING REQUIREMENTS. IF THIS IS LESS THAN 5280FT, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT CANNOT BE ALLOWED, CANNOT BE GRANTED. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. YOU SAID ON PLANNING AND ZONING, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU VOTED FOR IT OR NOT, YOU STILL HAD UPPER HAND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND IT WAS STILL DENIED BY PLANNING AND ZONING. AND YES, YOU WERE THE CHAIR. SO YOU KNEW. AND THEN TO COME BACK AND AGAIN AND NEGOTIATE THE LIVELIHOODS OF THESE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE AN ARCHITECT DEGREE. WHERE DO THEY APPROVE SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BUILT? HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE STAFF IS LOOKING. IT'S IN TEN DASH 209079 TEN DASH 2079I1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEN SUBSECTION D, WHICH USE PERMITTED USES PERMITTED THROUGH USE PERMIT ONLY. AND IT HAS A 5280FT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT AT MINIMUM FROM RESIDENTIAL 2600 IS LESS THAN HALF OF THAT. CONTINUE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. I WILL SAY THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE A TO HAVE THINGS IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU DON'T WANT. I HAVE THREE CONVENIENCE STORES ON ONE CORNER THAT WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING. WHEN I MOVED THERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONVENIENCE STORES, SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE THINGS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY DON'T LISTEN. BUT THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. BUT WHERE IT ENDS IS WITH COUNCIL. AND I SAY, WHERE DO THEY APPROVE SOMETHING? NOT KNOWING WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD? WHERE DO THEY DO THAT AT? AND ANYBODY WHO SIT UP HERE AND ACT LIKE THEY PUTTING SOME CONDITIONS ON IT, IT WAS ALREADY PREMEDITATED. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS.

YES. AND IS SOMEBODY TRYING TO CONFIRM THE DISTANCE? I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF NEEDS TO GO TALK TO THE APPLICANT, BUT I HEARD 2650, NOT 5280. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY WE SHOULD ALL TAKE A TRIP INTO UNION CITY. THEY HAVE AN OVER INFLUX OR OVER ABUNDANCE OF JUST EMPTY WAREHOUSES WHERE THEY'RE HOPING, WISHING AND PRAYING THAT SOMEONE COMES IN AND PICKS UP THE LEASE. AND I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY, YOUR CITY IS ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE AND THEY VOTE FOR. SO DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU DIFFERENT. SO IF THEY MAKE THEIR DECISION TONIGHT, WE MAKE ANOTHER DECISION IN NOVEMBER. THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS, IS OUR CITY IS ONLY AS GOOD AS OUR

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MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE, THE BUCK STOPS RIGHT HERE. COUNCIL WITH FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO, BUT WE'LL DO IT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. AND MY MOTION IS TO DENY TO DENY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR P202 FOR YOU. DASH 001, DASH ONE ZERO. THE USE PERMIT REQUEST TO DEVELOP TWO WAREHOUSES AND DISTRIBUTION BUILDINGS AT ZERO WELCOME HALL ROAD IN THE I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THANK YOU. AND SO SECOND, I HAVE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO THE SECOND SUBSTITUTE IS BASICALLY THE ORIGINAL MOTION. IS THAT A PERMISSIBLE SUBSTITUTE. AND THEN I STILL HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR FOR APPROVAL, BECAUSE WE READ A LOT OF THE ORDINANCE AND I HAVEN'T READ THE 33 PERMIT USAGE YET, BUT THIS 5280FT, WHEN THIS DIAGRAM SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT SAYS 2000FT, I THINK CREATES A CHALLENGE, A ISSUE THAT WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION IF APPROVED ILLEGAL. BUT GO AHEAD. SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS TO DENY THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO DENY. THEN THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO APPROVE. THEN THERE WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION WITH CONDITIONS. AND DURING THE DISCUSSION OF THAT, WE NOW HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, WHICH IS TO DENY, WHICH MIGHT BE THE PREVIOUS MOTION. SO DO I NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS MOTION? AND I'M ON DISCUSSION BECAUSE I DEFINITELY NEED CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE DISTANCE, BECAUSE I'M SURE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN ILLEGAL MAKE A MOTION THAT'S GOING TO BE ILLEGAL. BUT GO AHEAD, MADAM MAYOR, IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A COUPLE OF MINUTES, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK, BECAUSE MY FIRST THOUGHT IS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE A RULING ON. THERE WAS THE FIRST MOTION, THEN THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT THAT WAS ON THE FLOOR. THAT HASN'T BEEN RULED ON. AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE MOTION. YEAH, PER OUR COUNCIL RULES, OUR LOCAL COUNCIL RULES THAT I SHARED WITH EVERYONE, EACH ACTION CAN HAVE TWO SUBSTITUTES. SO I'M ASKING IF THIS SECOND SUBSTITUTE IS A SUBSTITUTE OR IS IT REVIVING THE FIRST ONE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE NOT NECESSARILY NECESSARILY A SUBSTITUTE. WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE DEAL WITH THESE FEET, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINS IS IN AS WELL, RIGHT? IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A COUPLE MINUTES. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINS. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR, WHERE IS THE RULE THAT YOU CITED WITH THIS IN THE SAME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SECTION? OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT SECTION TEN DASH 2079I1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. IF YOU GO DOWN TO SECTION D, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS USES PERMITTED THROUGH USE PERMIT ONLY, WHICH IS WHAT THIS APPLICATION IS. THE VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH SAYS THE FOLLOWING USES MAY BE PERMITTED PER THE PROCEDURES AND STANDARDS SET FORTH IN ARTICLE D, SECTION TEN DASH 2115X. KEEP GOING DOWN ON THE SCREEN SO THEY CAN SEE IT IN THE EYE. ONE DISTRICT, PROVIDED THAT SUCH USE SHALL BE AT LEAST 5280FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OR PROPERTY USED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT AND I WAS ASKING, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE WE SAYING THE THAT THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY 2000FT AWAY, BASED UPON THE APPLICANT'S DIAGRAM? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. OKAY. IT SAYS ANY DOESN'T SAY ALL, IT SAYS ANY.

THEY'RE SHAKING THEIR HEADS NOW. BUT WHEN THEY BROUGHT THIS, WHEN THEY DID THEIR PRESENTATION IT SAYS 2000FT. MR. WILLIAMS'S HOUSE IS JUST OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, AND USUALLY THE RADIUS IS THE SAME DISTANCE TO EITHER SIDE. SO IT WOULD BE 2000FT ON THE OTHER SIDE TOO, WHICH MEANS YOU NEED ANOTHER 3000FT TO THE RIGHT BEFORE TOUCHING A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN MR. WILLIAMS. MISS. CARTER, MISS FLOW. MISS. ACROSS THE STREET. MISS. MCGRIFF. I

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DON'T LIVE RIGHT THERE. I. KNOW WHAT QUESTION. I'M WHAT YOU HOLD UP. COUNCIL MEMBER.

CLEMENS, ARE YOU THERE? ONE MORE QUESTION. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT'S 5280FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO CAN THEY PUT ANYTHING THERE? CAN ANYTHING BE PUT THERE? IT SAYS AT LEAST THAT WAS A PART OF THE ZONING MORATORIUM AMENDMENTS TO REQUIRE AT LEAST A MILE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, ALONG WITH THE EASTPOINT ENVIRONMENTAL COALITION, HELPED ADVOCATE FOR THAT MILE DISTANCE. THAT'S FINE, BUT I'M BUT I'M ASKING. SO THE QUESTION IS, CAN THEY PUT ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS THERE, A FOOD PARK OR ANYTHING? CAN ANYTHING. SO THEY CAN DO PERMITTED USES THOSE 33 WHICH LET ME READ THOSE BECAUSE WE ONLY TALKED ABOUT DATA CENTERS. HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ THESE. SO THE PERMITTED USES AMBULANCE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. WE NEED MORE HOSPITAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES SOUTH OF ATLANTA BECAUSE WE'RE DESERT ANIMAL HOSPITALS, KENNELS, ANIMAL GROOMING SHOPS, ARTESIAN WORKSHOPS, AUTOMOBILE AND TRUCK SALES, AUTOMOBILE TRAILER AND BOAT SALES SERVICES, AUTOMOBILE AND TRUCK REPAIR, BOOK BINDING AND RELATED WORK. CARNIVAL VIDEO SHOOTING OR ATHLETIC EVENT. CAR WASH, AUTOMATIC HAND CAR WASH AND SELF-SERVICE COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL GREENHOUSES OR PLANT NURSERY. CULTURAL FACILITIES.

ART GALLERIES. MUSEUMS. LEGITIMATE THEATERS, LIBRARIES AND OTHER USE USES SIMILAR IN CHARACTER TO THOSE LISTED. DRIVE IN MOVIE THEATER DWELLINGS. RESIDENTS FOR WATCHMAN OR CARETAKER EMPLOYED ON PREMISES. EDUCATION. ELECTRIC SUPPLY STORE, HOME APPLIANCE REPAIR AND RELATED SERVICES. LAUNDRY AND DRY CLEANING, PICKUP STATIONS. LINEN AND DIAPER SERVICES.

GARMENT PRESSING, ALTERATION AND REPAIR. LUMBER, HARDWARE AND OTHER BUILDING MATERIAL ESTABLISHMENTS. NEWSPAPER PUBLISHING FACILITIES, FACILITIES, OFFICE BUSINESSES, OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL PAINT, GLASS AND WALLPAPER STORES. PLUMBING AND HEATING EQUIPMENT DEALERS. PRINTING, PUBLISHING AND REPRODUCING ESTABLISHMENTS. RADIO AND TELEVISION BROADCASTING STATIONS. RAILROAD STATIONS FOR FREIGHT RESTAURANTS, BARS, GRILLS, TAVERNS, CAFES, DRIVE INS, FAST FOOD FACILITIES, AND SIMILAR EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS. TAXI STANDS AND DISPATCHING AGENCIES. VETERINARY VETERINARY VETERINARIAN I CAN'T EVEN SAY THE WORD RIGHT NOW. CLINIC, HOSPITAL OR KENNEL? GYMS, FITNESS CENTER AND THEN DATA CENTER. SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT IN BETWEEN THAT. BUT WE GOT A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. ATTORNEY FREEMAN, YOU SAID YOU WERE IN OR GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND AND COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. FROM SPEAKING TO KIM, IT SEEMS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT AND THEY WOULD NEED TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE, WHICH IS NOT BEFORE US. I'M SORRY, MADAM, WHICH IS NOT BEFORE US. THAT IS CORRECT. SPEAKING WITH KIM. THAT THEY MISSED THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.

EXCUSE ME? THEY MISSED THE DISTANCE. WHEN YOU SAY MISS, MEANING IT'S LESS THAN 5000.

COUNCIL MEMBER. FREELAND. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. MISS. SMITH. IS. WHY ARE WE LEARNING THIS NOW? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THEY RECOMMENDED THE DISTANCE ISSUE. YOU DIDN'T. YOU? WAS YOUR DENIAL BASED ON THAT PART OF. WHEN THE ORDINANCES WERE APPROVED? THE TEXT AMENDMENTS, THE 5260FTā– !S AWAY S FAR AS ANY INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES LOCATED WITHIN RESIDENCES. WE WERE AWARE OF THAT, HOWEVER, DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS, IT

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APPEARED THAT THAT ITEM WAS WAS OVERLOOKED. SO YOU DIDN'T SUGGEST A VARIANCE? NO, STAFF DID NOT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. NO, I WAS THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT DURING THAT REVIEW PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT, THE APPLICANT, THE DUE PROCESS IS THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO APPLY FOR A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. THAT'S CORRECT SIR. OKAY. AND SO THEY WOULD JUST THAT WAS NOT SHARED WITH THEM THROUGHOUT DURING THAT PROCESS. CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. THANK YOU.

DO WE GIVE LEGAL ADVICE TO THE APPLICANT. WE DO NOT ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THEIR PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD. WE DO NOT GIVE LEGAL ADVICE. ADVICE. NO. AND SO INTERPRETING OUR ORDINANCES TO KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED I MEAN IT IT'S NOT HIDDEN. IT'S IN THE SAME SECTION THAT DEALS WITH USE PERMITS. SO COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE WHY IS ANYTHING OVER THERE THEN ANY OF THAT STUFF THAT'S OVER THERE? I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S THE CASE AND IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING BY THAT KICKS THEM OUT. I MEAN, UNLESS THEY GET SOME SORT OF VARIANCE FOR THE DISTANCE OR WHATEVER. BUT HOW IS ALL THE OTHER STUFF BEEN ALLOWED TO BE PLACED OVER THERE? CORRECT. BECAUSE THE ZONING, EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME. AND I JUST I'M GOING TO ASK PEOPLE NOT TO MAKE COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ONE MORE TIME. OH, SO I JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. SO THE QUESTION IS HOW HOW CAN ANYTHING ELSE BE OVER THERE? AND SO THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE WHEN THE MORATORIUM WAS PUT IN PLACE AND A NEW ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, I THINK YOU WERE ON COUNCIL WHEN WE ADOPTED IT. IT APPLIES TO NEW APPLICATIONS MOVING FORWARD. THE STUFF THAT WAS ALREADY THERE WE CAN'T DEAL WITH. OKAY. BUT IF IT BECOMES IF THEY DO NOT HAVE UTILITIES FOR A YEAR AND THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY, THEY WOULD BE APPLYING UNDER THIS ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT, I BELIEVE, AT THE END OF 2020. THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THOSE ITEMS OR THOSE LAND USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN PRIOR TO THE MORATORIUM PRIOR TO THIS COUNCIL ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE WITH NEW PERMITTED USES. SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN OKAY. AT THAT TIME. COUNCIL OKAY.

FINE. THANK YOU. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW. AND I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION, SIR. THANK YOU.

SO THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH CONDITIONS THAT IS NOT ALLOWED BY OUR ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. IF THERE IS NO OTHER. DISCUSSION ON CALL FOR THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION ON A MOTION THAT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ORDINANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, IF THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT HAVE A CONCURRENT VARIANCE, THEN THE MOTION IS ON ITS FACE ILLEGAL. I MEAN, WE CANNOT WE CANNOT APPROVE IT. THE PROCESS GENERALLY IS WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES AND THEY'RE ASKING STAFF OF THESE THINGS, THEY SHOULD HAVE ALSO APPLIED FOR A CONCURRENT VARIANCE THAT'S NOT IN PLACE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. SO ABSENT A CONCURRENT VARIANCE THEN THIS WOULD VIOLATE OUR ZONING CODE. I'M WELL AWARE THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S WHAT I'VE ARTICULATED MY SECOND BECAUSE BECAUSE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. SO THE SECOND IS WITHDRAWN. IS THE MOTION WITHDRAWN? COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY, IF WE'RE ACTUALLY SURE OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING NOW, AND THERE ARE NO MORE MISTAKES OR MISUNDERSTANDINGS. YES, I WITHDRAW THE MOTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THAT MEANS THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO DENY IS ON THE FLOOR. AND THEN AT THE COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

YES. AND IN MY COMMENT IS JUST SIMPLY THIS. YES, WE DO LOOK TO STAFF AND YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, MRS. SMITH. HOWEVER, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON COUNCIL TO KNOW THE RULES TO READ THROUGH THE INFORMATION THE SAME INFORMATION THAT SHE HAS, WHICH IS READILY AVAILABLE ON MUNICODE. YOU CAN SIMPLY GOOGLE PLANNING AND ZONING, CUSTOMER CARE, ALL OF OUR UTILITIES, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT EASTPOINTE? IT IS READILY AVAILABLE, SO IT JUST IS KIND OF DISAPPOINTING WHEN WE BROWBEAT STAFF, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR OWN HOMEWORK. SO I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT AS A COUNCIL PERSON, YOU EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE ENTITY, ON THE

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ON THE ENTITIES, IN IN THE INS AND OUTS OF OUR POLICIES AND EVERYTHING. WE CAN'T SOLELY, YOU KNOW, DEPEND ON OUR DEPARTMENTS. IT'S ALSO WITHIN US AS WELL TO DO THE HOMEWORK. SO THANK YOU, MISS SMITH, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SMITH, FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND CONTINUING TO DO. AND I'M GOING TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER. IT IS ON THE DEVELOPER TO EDUCATE THEIR SELF ON THE ORDINANCE. IT IS NOT UP TO STAFF. IT IS NOT UP TO ANYBODY BUT THE DEVELOPER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE WHEN THEY COME IN HERE AND THEY WANT TO BUILD. AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WE END. WE END UP WITH THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND PEOPLE DON'T LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS. BUT YET AND STILL THEY GOT A DEGREE IN ARCHITECT. SO IMMA SAY THIS AND BE VERY CLEAR. I THINK IT'S UNFAIR AND I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE WHO COME IN AND EXPECT US TO BE THEIR LAWYER, THEIR ARCHITECT, THEIR ENGINEER, AND GIVE THEM ADVICE THAT THE PEOPLE ON THEIR TEAM SHOULD GIVE THEM. GREYSTAR IS A WELL ESTABLISHED COMPANY IN BUSINESS FOR DECADES, WITH PROJECTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WE'RE TOLD. I'M SURE THEY HAVE A LAWYER ON THEIR TEAM AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE A REAL ESTATE LAWYER. IT TOOK ME MAYBE TWO MINUTES OR LESS TO PULL UP THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN. IT IS NOT HIDDEN. IT IS ONLINE. IT IS A PART OF THE SECTION THAT THEY ARE ASKING US TO TAKE ACTION ON. AND IT IS AT THE VERY TOP. AND THEY CREATED A DIAGRAM THAT SHOWED 2000FT. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A RED FLAG TO ANYBODY. THAT 2000 IS LESS THAN 5280FT.

SO TIME AND TIME AGAIN, STAFF GETS BLAMED FOR THINGS THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO BUSINESS IN OUR CITY SHOULD DO FOR THEMSELVES. AND YES, WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER. AND YES, IT SHOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION WHEN IT CAN BE. BUT FOR THESE THINGS, WHEN YOU'RE DOING A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, YOU HAVE LAWYERS ON THE TEAM THAT TO DEAL WITH ZONING AND LAND USE, AND THEY LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS WITHIN IT. THIS SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MISSED BY ANYBODY ON THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, BUT TO SAY THAT IT'S STAFF AND TO SAY THE STAFF MADE A MISTAKE AND STAFF DIDN'T DO THIS AND STAFF DIDN'T DO THAT, WE DON'T EXPECT THE DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE WANT TO DO BUSINESS IN OUR CITY TO READ OUR ORDINANCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, AND WE WANT TO SAY IT'S SOLELY STAFF'S FAULT BECAUSE WE MISSED IT. AND CLEARLY THERE HAD BEEN SOME READING OF THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THERE WERE CONDITIONS ADDED, AND THERE WAS ALL THIS OTHER STUFF TALKED ABOUT. I JUST SO HAPPEN TO SAY, WELL, LET ME READ THE ORDINANCE ANOTHER TIME, JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE RIGHT HERE TONIGHT. SO TO SAY THAT IT'S SOLELY ON STAFF AND MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT'S THEIR FAULT, THE CONVERSATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITH DEVELOPERS, YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE READING OUR ORDINANCES AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUFF THAT'S ONLINE. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DENY THE USE PERMIT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. NO. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ATKINS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZEIGLER. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINS. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MITCHELL. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. ROGERS. THE MOTION. SO THE MOTION TO DENY PAT FAILS? YES.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO A MOTION TO APPROVE? BECAUSE Y'ALL GOT TO TAKE SOME ACTION. SO THEY THEY DENIED THE DENIAL. THE REQUEST DOESN'T MEET OUR ORDINANCE. AND SO I'M ASSUMING I'M ABOUT TO MAKE A MOTION ON SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T APPROVE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MEET THE ORDINANCE. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE MOTION IS. DENIAL IS NOT A BACK DOOR APPROVAL. LET'S BE VERY CLEAR. IT TAKES AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO APPROVE. SIT HERE TO SOMEBODY TRYING TO. THERE'S A

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LOT OF TALKING AND STRATEGY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'D ASK OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THE CASE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. AND SO THE DISPOSAL OF THE FIRST MOTION DOES NOT RESULT IN AN APPROVAL. AND SO WHAT IN THAT CASE, IF A CONCURRENT VARIANCE IS NEEDED, WOULD YOUR OPINION BE FOR THE BODY. SO SHE'S NOT THE PLANNING AND ZONING ATTORNEY. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU GO OUT AND ASK ATTORNEY WIGGINS WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL CAN AMEND THE APPLICATION FOR AN APPLICANT AND, AND HAVE THEM GO BACK AND DO A CONCURRENT VARIANCE TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'LL DO THAT. I HAD ALREADY BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH ATTORNEY WIGGINS, BUT I WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKED IF COUNCIL CAN AMEND IT. JUST GIVE ME A COUPLE OF MINUTES. BUT SO THERE'S NO APPLICATION FOR A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. THE ONLY APPLICATION IS FOR A USE PERMIT. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONCURRENT VARIANCE RIGHT HERE TONIGHT. BUT. IF I NEED TO STEP OUT AND TALK TO HER, I CAN I MEAN I DON'T WANT HER TO I DON'T WANT TO PUT HER I DON'T KNOW IF SHE CAN BE ON SPEAKERPHONE, BUT I DON'T. BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE. MADAM MAYOR, THAT ACTION CAN'T BE TAKEN TONIGHT. I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH HER TO SEE IF THE IF COUNCIL CAN AMEND IT. BUT THE APPLICANT, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, WILL HAVE TO START OVER AND APPLY FOR THAT VARIANCE. AND WHAT SHE JUST INDICATED IS THAT COUNCIL CANNOT DO THE AMENDMENT. CORRECT. AND SO THE DENIAL, THE MOTION TO DENY WAS DENIED. DOESN'T MEAN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED. IT WAS JUST DENIED. THAT IS CORRECT. SO LET HER KNOW THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THEM IN ON A MOTION AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET GUIDANCE. FROM. MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.

COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THIS MESSAGE, THIS QUESTION IS FOR DIRECTOR SMITH. SO CAN ANYTHING BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE? BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE SUBJECT TO WHAT THE NEW ANYTHING THAT'S NEW THAT'S GOING TO THEY'RE SUBJECT TO WHAT THE NEW WHAT THIS NEW ORDINANCE IS CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO NOTHING CAN BE BUILT THERE. 33 THINGS CAN BE BUILT. THERE WERE 33 PERMITTED USES BY. RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE THE USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ANY TYPE OF USE PERMIT OR ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT APPLICATION. OKAY. SO. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LOUD, JUST ASK THE QUESTION. WE JUST SEE IF THAT'S THE CASE. AND I GUESS WE'RE JUST WAITING ON SOME SOMETHING, SOME SORT OF CONFIRMATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS BECAUSE THE DENIAL WAS DENIED. AND AS IT STANDS, IT CAN'T BE APPROVED BECAUSE IT VIOLATES OUR ORDINANCE. I UNDERSTAND, SO WE'RE WAITING. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN NOT BE APPROVED. SO MY QUESTION NOW IS THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. SO THEY WILL HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE ATTACHED TO IT. DO THEY COME UP AND WITHDRAW WHAT IT IS THAT THEY HAVE? I MEAN, BECAUSE IF NOT, UNTIL WE GET IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, WE'RE JUST HERE. CORRECT. SO JUST SO THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD, I MEAN, WOULD THE THING BE FOR THEM TO WITHDRAW WHAT THEY HAVE NOW, OR CAN THAT EVEN BE DONE OR WHAT? JUST SO WE'RE NOT AT THIS STAGE, I THINK THEY'RE GETTING CLARIFICATION FROM THE LEGAL ATTORNEY AT THIS TIME. SO WE'RE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, CAN WE TABLE THIS AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE? OH, OKAY. THIS WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS TONIGHT. SINCE THEY DENIED IT, THEY WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION AROUND IT. A DENIAL IS NOT AN AUTOMATIC APPROVAL. AND AS IT STANDS BEFORE US TONIGHT, IT CAN'T BE APPROVED. COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL, THIS IS TO THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT? I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESSURE US INTO THAT. DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS? SO FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT TRYING TO PRESSURE YOU INTO ANYTHING.

THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR. PERIOD. SO WHAT HAPPENS? THIS IS FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DID NOT HAVE THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO START OVER. OKAY. SO WHEN IT COMES TO START OVER. SO THE APPLICATION HAS NOT BEEN WITHDRAWN. IT'S BEFORE COUNCIL. I'M NOT TRYING TO PRESS YOU ALL TO DO ANYTHING, BUT YOU GOT TO TAKE ACTION.

WHETHER YOU DEFER, WHETHER YOU. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT WHEN IT VIOLATES THE ORDINANCE, WHETHER YOU DO WHATEVER YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT DOING, SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM BECAUSE THE DENIAL WAS DENIED AND IS STILL BEFORE US AND IT HASN'T BEEN WITHDRAWN. AND A DENIAL IS NOT AN APPROVAL. AND SO YOU ALL NEED TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WILL DO SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. MADAM COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS. MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. CAN WE MAKE A MOTION? WE MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. SO COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY SORRY I WAS CHIMING IN AS YOU WERE. I HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO THERE IS A MOTION TO DEFER ON THE TABLE. SO IF SOMEBODY GIVES A SECOND WE CAN GO IN ON DISCUSSION. IF IT DOESN'T GET A SECOND, IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION COUNCILMEMBER FREELY? YES, MADAM. DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY OR DIRECTOR SMITH, CAN SOMEONE DEFINITIVELY ANSWER THE QUESTION? WOULD DENIAL REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT WAIT A YEAR BEFORE SEEKING THIS AGAIN IN THIS SITUATION? IF DENIAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST? YES. DENIAL OF WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. IS THE IT'S THE SAME. IT WOULD REQUIRE A WAITING PERIOD OF A YEAR. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IT HAS TO BE A YEAR. IF HE'S APPLYING FOR THE SAME THING. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. BUT IF HE'S GOING FOR A. VARIANCE, THAT'S DIFFERENT. CORRECT? BECAUSE FOR THIS SAME USE, THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR THEM TO DO A CONCURRENT VARIANCE WITH THE USE TOGETHER. SO WOULD IT BE A YEAR. IF THIS PETITION WAS DENIED THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR. OKAY. AND THAT 60 DAYS. NO IT'S NOT 60 DAYS OKAY. SO. JUST SO THERE'S NO DATE CERTAIN. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS, DID YOU WANT TO PROPOSE A DATE TO DEFER THIS TO? US? WE CAN DO IT FOR 60 DAYS. AND THAT WOULD GIVE THEM

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THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY NEED TO TRY TO DO. OKAY. AND I THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WITH THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY THAT THAT CAN WE DO THAT ACTION THAT WE CAN TAKE. I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN DO THE MOTION TO DEFER FOR 60 DAYS.

OKAY. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE THE APPLICATION COMES IN BEFORE THAT. THIS IS STILL PENDING.

THAT IS CORRECT OKAY. SO THEN THEY HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS AT THE SAME TIME. WELL ONE IS ONE IS DEFERRED. SO ONE IS DEFERRED. BUT IT'S COMING BACK FOR THE SAME REQUEST. AND COMING BACK FOR A CONCURRENT VARIANCE AND A SPECIAL USE FOR THE SAME USE FOR THE. BUT IT WILL STILL NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. IT HAS TO COME TOGETHER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY WAS MAKING A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION OF 60 DAYS, OR IF YOU WERE JUST GOING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION FOR 60 DAYS. BUT SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. SO IF WE IF IT'S DEFERRED FOR 60 DAYS, YOU SEND IT AND THEY WOULD COME BACK AND THEY'D REAPPLY WHATEVER.

TECHNICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS IN FOR THE SAME. THE SAME USE OR THE SAME FOR THAT, FOR THAT SAME PROPERTY. CORRECT. AND YOU CAN'T ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS? TWO APPLICATIONS IN. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. THE APPLICATION THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE DEFERRED. IF IT IS DECIDED THAT IT'S DEFERRED, IT WOULD JUST STAY IN THAT STATE AND IT WOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE. AND AS IT IS NOW, IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE VARIANCE. SO IT WOULD JUST STAY IN THAT STATE OF DEFERMENT UNLESS UNLESS THE APPLICANT WITHDREW IT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THE PETITION IS NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE UNLESS IT COMES BACK WITH THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE. OKAY. SO WE DEFER FOR THE 60 DAYS. THEY CAN MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS OR WHATEVER. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION IS DEAD. AND THEY AND ANOTHER ONE NEEDS TO BE DONE ALTOGETHER. OR I MEAN BECAUSE BECAUSE CAN YOU MOVE ON THAT? I MEAN, IF THEY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS OR THE APPLICATION AS IT IS NOW IS NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. SO IF IT'S DEFERRED, IT'S JUST GOING TO STAY IN A STATE OF DEFERMENT, OKAY. WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS BRING BACK THE APPLICATION THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE USE PERMIT WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE, AND THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY TOGETHER IN ORDER FOR ACTION TO BE TAKEN.

OKAY. SO WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THE APPLICATION TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE IF YOU IF WE DEFER THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE, THE ONE THAT'S THAT'S BEFORE US NOW ARE THOSE CHANGES OR WHATEVER, IS IT TO THAT ONE THAT'S DEFERRED OR THAT ONE STAYS AND THEY JUST NEED TO START ALL OVER FROM SCRATCH? I WOULDN'T SEE IT AS STARTING OVER FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR A USE PERMIT. SO THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT APPLICATION AND ADD A VARIANCE TO IT, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO COME BACK THROUGH TOGETHER. THANK YOU. OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER THE ITEM THAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL NOW FOR 60 DAYS. IS MOVING PROPERLY. SECOND. OH WHO WAS THE SECOND? THE SECOND STILL STAND. STILL STANDS. ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU.

SO I WILL SAY THIS AND I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP GOING ON AND ON ABOUT IT. I'M STILL GOING TO VOTE NO. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL SPOKE OUT. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HOW YOU FEEL AND HOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW WE CONSTANTLY WHAT THEY CONSTANTLY NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND NOT LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS. BUT I WILL SAY THIS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SAID, YOUR VOTE HAS POWER AND IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR. EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS AND VOTE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

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AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NO. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCILMEMBER. SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER.

FREELY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER.

MITCHELL. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, THE MOTION PASSED. ALRIGHTY. NEXT UP IS THE CAN I

[X.4. P2024RZ-001-10 Rezoning Request for Property Located at 3156 Harris Drive from R-1A (Urban Residential) Zoning District to R-2 (Two- Family Dwelling) Zoning District with Concurrent Variance]

GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3156 HARRIS DRIVE FROM R ONE A URBAN RESIDENTIAL AUTO PEOPLE I'M SURE ONE OF THEM A LAWYER R1A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO R2 TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ZONING DISTRICT WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCE. MADAM MAYOR. YES. COUNCILMEMBER FRIEDSON, I MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3156 HARRIS DRIVE FROM R ONE, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO R2 TWO DWELLING ZONING DISTRICT WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN. MISS JESSIE, FOR STAFF TO DO A PRESENTATION.

KIMBERLY SMITH WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM.

PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3156 HARRIS DRIVE, KNOWN AS CASE NUMBER P2024. R'S DASH 001, DASH ONE ZERO CASE TYPE IS A REZONING WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. FOR THE LOT WIDTH. THE APPLICANT IS BOBBY J. LEE, JR WITH SHARK CLUB LOGISTICS, LLC. THIS PARTICULAR PETITION, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO WITHDRAW VIA EMAIL ON JANUARY 21ST, 2025, DUE TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE BEING ADVERTISED. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE AN OVERVIEW, BUT WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. AS A CAVEAT, THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OUR ONE A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPOSAL FOR REZONING IS FOR OUR R2 TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE REQUEST, AS STATED, IS FOR R ONE TO BE REZONED FROM R1, A TO R2 WITH THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE AND LOT WIDTH. THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 10,969FTā– !S IN AR. AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED CURRENTLY ZONED R1 A. IT'S THE SITE THAT'S DEPICTED ON THE CORNER IN THE LIGHT BLUE OUTLINE. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD. SOME OF THE TYPICAL URBAN. SOME OF THE TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS OF THE TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. UNDER OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR R1, RL, R1, A, R, R2 AND R3. PLANNING AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PETITION. THERE WERE SIX CONDITIONS THAT WERE PLACED ON IT. THERE WERE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE CONDITIONS.

I'LL READ THE CONDITIONS FOR THE RECORD. CONDITION NUMBER ONE, A RESTRICTION OF ONLY TWO LEASES, ONE PER EACH DWELLING UNIT OF THE R2 FAMILY DWELLING UNIT. ONLY ONE LEASE FOR EACH DWELLING UNIT IS ALLOWED. CONDITION NUMBER TWO. NO ROOMING HOUSE AND OR BOARDING HOUSES ALLOWED. NO INDIVIDUAL LEASED BEDROOMS WILL BE ALLOWED. CONDITION NUMBER THREE. THERE SHALL BE NO SUBLETTING ALLOWED. CONDITION NUMBER FOUR THERE SHALL BE 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS, SLEEPING QUARTERS PER FLOOR, DWELLING UNIT AND TWO AND A HALF BATHROOMS WILL BE ALLOWED. CONDITION NUMBER FIVE.

THIS PROJECT SHALL MEET ALL INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES OF MEANS OF EGRESS PER FLOOR, TWO MEANS OF INGRESS PER FLOOR AND CONDITION NUMBER SIX. THERE SHALL BE ONE COMMON AREA AND OR LIVING ROOM AREA AND ONE KITCHEN PER UNIT PER DWELLING UNIT, AS STATED AT THE BEGINNING, THE APPLICANT ON JANUARY 21ST, 2025 DID REQUEST THAT THIS APPLICATION BE WITHDRAWN FOR THE REZONING AND THAT THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST WAS AT THE PROPERTY'S OWNER'S DECISION AND STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE APPLICATION. IS NOW OPEN. IS THE APPLICANT

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HERE FOR THIS ITEM? I REQUESTED A WITHDRAWAL. ASSUME. GOOD EVENING. THE REASON FOR WITHDRAWAL BY THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS THAT THEY DECIDED TO BUILD, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'LL BE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AT AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, JUST STEP ASIDE AND YOU CAN SIT RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REZONING, REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED 3156 HARRIS DRIVE. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR THERE? ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE REZONING REQUEST FOR 3156 HARRIS DRIVE. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION. MOTION CARRIES. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WITHDRAWAL BECAUSE THIS IS HAS BEEN ADVERTISED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. WE JUST HAD IT. COUNCIL CAN DECIDE TO EITHER ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL, DENY THE REQUEST OR APPROVE THE REQUEST. WHAT IS THE MOTION FROM COUNCIL? COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

YOU SAID YOU JUST OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR. I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR. MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THIS FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE WITHDRAWING THE CONTRACT. I MEAN, WITHDRAWING YOUR APPLICATION BECAUSE YOU ARE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD WITHIN THE CODE THE CURRENT ZONING. WAS IT OKAY? WAS IT HOUSE OR HOUSES? I DIDN'T JUST A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. IT'S A VERY NARROW LOT.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CAN REALLY BE BUILT THERE. OKAY. JUST ONE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, I YIELD. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION? IF NOT, IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION, MADAM MAYOR? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

[X.5. Ordinance for Use Permit Application, Petition #P2024U-001-12 Applicant Neal Morrison Request for Habitable Accessory Structure Per Section 10-2130 Zoning Code Located at 1388 Wadley Avenue]

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, I NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR. OPEN THE. I'M SORRY. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ACTION AND POSSIBLE DISCUSSION. IT'S FOR THE. I'M SORRY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR PETITION NUMBER P20242. DASH 001-12 FOR APPLICANT NEIL MORRISON. REQUEST FOR HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE PER SECTION TEN DASH 2130. ZONING CODE LOCATED AT 1388 WADLEY AVENUE, SO MOVED SECOND SECOND. BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. MISS JESSIE, THE FLOOR IS OPEN AND FOR STAFF TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW. MADAM MAYOR KIMBERLY SMITH, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW. THANK YOU, MISS JESSIE. IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE, LOCATED AT 1388 WADLEY AVENUE, KNOWN AS CASE NUMBER P2242, DASH 00112, CASE TYPE IS A USE PERMIT FOR A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THE APPLICANT IS NEIL MORRISON.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R ONE, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL, AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ESTABLISH A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON R1, A PROPERTY PURSUANT TO SECTION TEN DASH 2130. CURRENT ZONING IS R1, A THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION HAS A TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION. PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PETITION, WITH A CONDITION TO ADHERE TO ALL APPLICABLE STATE AND CITY CODES.

THAT'S THE END OF OUR REPORT. IS THERE? IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON THIS COME FORWARD? YOU CAN PRESS

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THE MIC RIGHT THERE. YEP. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING TO HELP ME WITH THE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS NEIL MORRISON. I AM THE OWNER OF 1388 WYLIE AVENUE. IT'S MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE. SINGLE FAMILY HOME. MYSELF AND MY WIFE, MY FAMILY. WE ARE SEEKING TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. IT'S THE HOUSE. I'VE RESIDED THERE FOR 21 YEARS. LETTER OF INTENT. JUST DESCRIBING WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. THERE IS A DETACHED GARAGE WE WANT TO BUILD. BASICALLY A ADU ON TOP OF THE EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE. THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS 1930 ONE SQUARE FEET. THE GARAGE CURRENTLY IS 201FTā– !S AND TOPS T AT TEN FEET ABOVE THE GROUND. THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED ADU WILL NOT EXCEED. THE HEIGHT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE IS 25FT ABOVE GROUND. THE HEIGHT OF THE ADU WILL NOT EXCEED 22FT ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL, AND THE ADU WILL BE 365FTā– !S. THE SITE PLAN. YOU SEE, THE BLOCK IN THE MIDDLE IS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND THE RECTANGLE TO THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE ADU ON TOP OF THE GARAGE. YOU SEE THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION. IT COMES WITH DIMENSIONS.

THEY'RE NOT LEGIBLE HERE. AND THE NEXT SLIDE. YES. THANK YOU. SO ON THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE SEVEN FOOT ELEVATION TO THE TOP OF THE GARAGE. THEN THE SPACE FOR THE JOIST SYSTEM BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR. IT'S TYPICALLY ONE FOOT, TWO FOOT MAXIMUM EIGHT FOOT FOR THE LIVING SPACE FOR THE ADU. SO THAT'S. 17FT. AND THEN THE SLOPE OF THE ROOF IS 1204 WHICH EQUALS TO TWO FEET. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 20 FOOT PLUS OR MINUS TO THE TOP OF THE STRUCTURE. ON THIS ONE. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DIMENSIONS AS 12 FOOT WIDE. SO TELLS YOU A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT THE SLOPE WOULD BE. AND NEXT SLIDE. THOSE ARE JUST THE NOTIFICATION MAILERS. AND I THINK THE THOSE ARE THE SECONDARY NOTIFICATION MAILERS. SO ANY THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU COULD JUST HAVE A SEAT I'M GOING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST. AND COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY HAVE A DECISION FOR YOU TONIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST FOR HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT 1388 WADLEY AVENUE? ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. 2855 RUTH MARIE TERRY. I SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT. LOOK LIKE HE HAS SOME PRETTY GOOD PLANS. EVERYTHING LOOKED VERY, VERY GOOD. HE PRESENTED HIMSELF WELL. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST FOR A HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT AT 1388 WYLIE AVENUE. ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A REQUEST FOR HABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT 1388 WYLIE AVENUE.

ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. IF. HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. THANK YOU. SIR. SO.

[03:40:01]

OKAY. THERE IT IS. IF COUNCIL DESIRES TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT. TO APPROVE IT, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING SINCE THIS IS AN ORDINANCE. AND THEN MOTION TO APPROVE. TO DENY WILL JUST BE A MOTION TO DENY ANY ACTION BY COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING FOR THIS CASE.

SECOND. SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE NUMBER P, AS IN PAUL 202 FOR YOU AS AN UMBRELLA. I'M SORRY. ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE FOR CASE NUMBER P AS IN PAUL 2024U AS AN UMBRELLA DASH 001-12, WHICH IS AN ACTUAL HABITABLE ACCESSORY UNIT STRUCTURE FOR 1388 WADLEY AVENUE WITH THE CONDITION AS STATED BY STAFF. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? OH, SIR. YOUR PERMIT

[XI. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

HAS BEEN GRANTED. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING? WE HAVE EIGHT PUBLIC COMMENTS. CHAPTER TWO. SECTION 2-2002 B.B. RULE 28. THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A COMMENT FORM PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. SUBJECT MAY INCLUDE ANY SUBJECT OF CHOICE. THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER. SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MAY GIVE ALL OR PART OF THEIR TIME, UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME. SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING.

QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER. SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITY SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE FOREGOING. MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU CAN CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER UP FIRST. YEAH. MISS MARIE TERRY. GOOD EVENING. AND TERRY, 2057 ROAD. AND I HEARD YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THE POWER BILL. AND I AM ONE OF THE VICTIMS OF THAT POWER BILL. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TRYING TO NOT CANCEL IT, NOT CUT ANYTHING OFF. AND THAT IS GREAT. BUT I HAVE ALL MY BILLS HERE ALL THE WAY BACK TO JANUARY OF 2024 AND MORE. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO CHECK THAT OUT. MY BILL WENT FROM $85, $75, 175 TO 250 ALL THE WAY TO $312. SO THIS MONTH IT WAS $411.99. YOU GOT THE 500KW AT 49. YOU GOT THE 500,000KW AT 49. AND LAST MONTH I HAD THE 500,000, $9.11 FOR THIS BILL HERE. THE 500,000W IS $177.17. I HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING. MATTER OF FACT, WE TURNED OUT A LOT OF THINGS. ME AND MY KIDS, WE GOT IN ONE ROOM.

SO WITH THE ICE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THIS POWER BILL IS OFF THE ROCK. AND I DO WANT TO THANK MR. HALL FROM COMING OUT TO MY HOUSE, PUTTING A NOTICE ON MY DOOR ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS. HE ALSO PUT A NOTICE ON MY DOOR ABOUT THE TREE CUTTING MY TREE SO WE CAN MAKE THE SIDEWALKS. I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE SIDEWALKS. TIER ONE AND TIER TWO AND TIER THREE. IT'S BEEN A WHILE, YOU GUYS, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SIDEWALKS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF EASTPOINTE. NOW, WHAT I I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE THE DECISION FOR THAT RESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GUYS COULDN'T COME TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GUYS VOTED AGAINST THAT. I'M A RESIDENT OF THIS CITY, AND I HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH WALMART TRUCKS, A LOT WITH THE GENERATORS. LIKE I SAID, I PLAY MY TV JUST NOT TO HEAR IT, BUT I JUST. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY. I HAD A HARD TIME TONIGHT WITH THAT DECISION. IT'S LIKE SOMETHING WAS IN PLAY WITH THAT.

WHEN THE RESIDENT SAYS NO, THEY KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE. I DON'T LIVE IN JEFFERSON PARK. I DON'T PARK. I DON'T LIVE IN WARD D, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES. YOU DON'T STAY IN MY HOUSE, SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I HEAR AT NIGHT. THAT BIG 18 WHEELERS SHAKING MY HOUSE. SO YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID NO TO THAT. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT PUT YOU IN THEM SEATS. YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THEM, NOT TO YOUR

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PERSONAL ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE. NO, THAT DON'T WORK UP HERE. NO IS NO. AND Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE VOTED THAT WAY. ME, MYSELF PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK Y'ALL VOTED THE RIGHT WAY. AND I KNOW OAKLEY, I KNOW OAKLEY. YOU WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE 18 WHEELERS OVER THERE ON OAKLEY.

THE BASS SMELL, THE TRUCKS RUNNING. THIS IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. SO I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW. I WILL BE HERE AGAIN SUPPORTING MY RESIDENTS, SUPPORT MY NEIGHBOR, SUPPORTING PEOPLE DOWN THE STREET, SUPPORTING THE SENIOR CITIZENS. AND WHILE I'M HERE ON MY POWER BILL, EVERYBODY GOTTA HAVE POWER BILL. GOOD NIGHT Y'ALL. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS WYATT JOHNSON. THANK YOU. THANKS. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. IT IS STILL EVENING, RIGHT? MY NAME IS DOCTOR WAKABA JOHNSON. I LIVE AT 3009 GREEN VALLEY. OF COURSE, IT'S IN EAST POINT. I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF EAST POINT, WITH FAMILY RESIDENCES FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS IN OUR BELOVED CITY. HOWEVER, TONIGHT, THIS IS KIND OF A SHOW AND TELL FOR ME. I AM HERE TO REPRESENT AT LEAST TWO OTHER RESIDENTS. ONE IS ILL AND ONE IS WORKING. I AM NOT BRINGING AWARDS FOR ANYBODY, BUT EVIDENT COMPLAINTS ABOUT IRRESPONSIBLE WATER AND SEWER PROJECT MANAGEMENT. OUR HISTORY RELATES TO A WATER AND SEWER PROJECT THAT OFFICIALLY BEGAN IN 2023. THE PROJECT WAS COMPLEX BUT POORLY POORLY MANAGED DUE TO POSSIBLE NEPOTISM, DEEP POCKETS, OR EXTREME EVIDENCE OF NEGLIGENT QUALITY ASSURANCE. MANAGEMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS. THIS WAS NOT AN APPROVAL MEASUREMENT FOR PAYMENT OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. MY QUESTION TONIGHT IS WHO IS IN CHARGE? CONSTRUCTION 101 EXAMPL.

BECAUSE WHAT MANAGEMENT SEEM TO SAY WAS BUT WE EAST PART PAID X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR THIS PROJECT FOR TO ME AS A LONG TERM ADMINISTRATOR, THEN THAT'S EVEN MORE REASON WHY YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE QUALITY OF A SERVICE. CONSTRUCTION 101 EXAMPLE A NEW ROOF COST X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND WAS REPLACED, AND ALL THE HOUSE CEILINGS COLLAPSED. MANAGEMENT COMMENT TO ME WAS BUT WE PAID FOR THE ROOF. WELL, FINE. NOW I DON'T HAVE A HOUSE OR I. THERE IS NO HOUSE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST GOOD COMMON SENSE TO ME. AS THE GUARDIAN OF PUBLIC FUNDS, SOMEONE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE. I HAVE WRITTEN INQUIRIES THAT WERE NEVER ADDRESSED, RESOLVED IN COMMUNICATIONS FROM MY NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS FROM ME. WE NEVER RECEIVED THE S O W, AND WE'RE NOT INFORMED THAT THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETE. THE CONTRACTORS REPEATEDLY COMPLAINED ABOUT THE LACK OF WATER AND SEWER MANAGEMENT. THE LAST RESPONSE FROM THE DIRECTOR TO ME WAS RECEIVED, AND THAT WAS IN 2024. WHAT KIND OF MANAGEMENT TOOL IS THAT? I'M JUST ONE ONE RESIDENT TAXPAYER WITH ONE VOTE. I WAS TOLD THERE WAS A WARRANTY, BUT NO CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WERE MADE.

CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS CREATED PROPERTY DESTRUCTION. I WAS NEVER TOLD I WOULD INCUR A COST. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A CONVERSATION. TO DATE, I HAVE MITIGATED SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY CAUSED. THE RETAINER WALLS AND CAMP CREEK, THE TOP IN BRICKS. DID SOMEONE GIVE YOU YOUR TIME? THEM YOUR TIME? OKAY. WOULD YOU BE MISS? YES. AND SHE IS MY NEXT PERSON 3.0. OKAY.

THAT'S THE NAME I WAS JUST ABOUT TO CALL WITH. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THE RETAINERS, THE TOPS AND THE BRICKS ARE ALL IN THE CREEK, RESTRICTING THE WATER. WATER IS BACKING UP OVER ON DOGWOOD DRIVE. AND THE DOGWOOD. AND IT'S, OF COURSE, BACKING UP IN OUR ON OUR PROPERTY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CREEK IS BEING RESTRICTED. THE RESTRICTING WATER FLOW. THE WATER IS POOLING, AND THAT'S GOOD FOR ICE SKATING. WHEN THE TEMP IS LOW OUTSIDE ON THE

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DRIVEWAY AND IN OUR YARD AND FLOATING ABOVE GROUND, THE ROCKS WILL NOT ALLOW FOR GRASS GROWTH BECAUSE DAMAGE TO LAWNMOWERS. AFTER TWO YEARS OF COMPLAINT AND I RECEIVED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, A HAND DELIVERED WHAT I CONSIDERED A SIDE NOTE FROM THE WATER AND SEWER. THE SEWER DIRECTOR BASICALLY STATING THE ENGINEER SIGNED OFF AND THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND PRIDE IS GO SOMEWHERE LADY AND BE QUIET. YOU ARE ELECTED AND STAFF ARE FOR HIRE. I SO I AM SO GLAD TONIGHT TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS, AND I JUST HOPE THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE ELON MUSK KIND OF SYNDROMES. BUT AGAIN, I ASK WHO IS IN CHARGE? AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE. WHEN YOU TELL ME IF YOU NEVER PUT A GRASS SEED DOWN IN YOUR LIFE, THESE ROCKS ARE LEFT IN OUR YARDS. NOW, CAN YOU GROW GRASS WITH THIS OR ANYTHING ELSE? MY, I'VE HAD THE PROPERTY LAST GATE AND EVERYTHING. LAWNMOWERS WERE BROKEN. SO ANYWAY, I SAID EACH ONE OF YOU AN EMAIL IF YOU WERE HERE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024. I GOT ONE RESPONSE. AND TO DATE, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. AND I END BY SAYING WHO IS IN CHARGE? OH, AND I DIDN'T COME HERE JUST TO COMPLAIN. I'M NOT THAT LITTLE OLD LADY THAT LOVES TO COMPLAIN. BELIEVE ME, AS MUCH AS I TALKED ABOUT THAT BRIDGE, I WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING THEN TO SHOW BACK UP TODAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS JACKIE. GEORGE, AND I DO THINK MISS JACKIE LEFT. ALL RIGHT. JUSTIN ANDERSON. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. JUSTIN ANDERSON, 3292 BACHELOR STREET, EGAN PARK. I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO READ FROM THE CIVILITY PLEDGE FOR EVERYONE GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING. MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ALL PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT, COURTESY AND OPENNESS. WE VALUE INPUT. WE COMMIT TO. WE COMMIT TO CONDUCT OURSELVES AT ALL TIMES WITH CIVILITY AND COURTESY TO EACH OTHER. ANYTHING BUT OCCURRED THIS EVENING FROM THIS COUNCIL. IT'S DEPLORABLE BEHAVIOR. COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE NOT WHAT A COUNCIL MEETING IS FOR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE AIRING DIRTY LAUNDRY OR GRIEVANCES. IT DOES NOT INDUCE TRUST WITHIN A COMMUNITY. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL, HIGHLY DISRESPECTFUL AND MAKES ALL OF US RESIDENTS HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS OF YOUR BEHAVIOR. AND AS YOU STATED, WE CAN USE OUR VOTE THIS NOVEMBER AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE ELEVATED ELECTRICAL BILLS IN EGAN PARK.

AS STATED, THERE ARE 30 PLUS, IF NOT MORE RESIDENTS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE BEEN DEEPLY AFFECTED. SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING A RESOLUTION WITH THAT. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS WERE THE CONTINUED EXPLOSIONS AT SA NEW RECYCLING, WHICH AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THIS NEW ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ESTABLISHED BUSINESS. THEY CONTINUE TO AFFECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. THERE WERE TWO EXPLOSIONS ON VALENTINE'S DAY THAT SHOOK EVERYONE'S HOME. IT WAS FELT ALL THE WAY IN JEFFERSON PARK. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY ARE WE NOT TAKING STEPS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AS OPPOSED TO A WAREHOUSE? I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THERE ARE BIGGER FISH TO FRY. HOUSES THAT ARE BEING STRUCTURALLY AFFECTED BY EXPLODING PROPANE TANKS. SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRUCK TRAFFIC, ALL THAT JAZZ. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THEIR ISSUES ALL OVER THE CITY. IT IS EVIDENT THAT THERE IS A BROKENNESS AND THERE IS A DIVISION IN THIS COUNCIL. WE CAN ALL FEEL IT. AS RESIDENTS HERE, YOU'RE NOT PULLING THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO BE ADDRESSED. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE TALK ABOUT RELOCATING A CORPORATION, BUT IF WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT FUTURECASTING FOR THE CITY, THOSE TYPES OF CORPORATIONS THAT ARE PRODUCING THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. THOSE ARE THE REAL ISSUES. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, MISS JESSIE, FOR THE CITY. WHERE IS OUR CITY MANAGER?

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WHERE ARE THEY? WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING YOUR JOB TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO THIS POSITION? THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED. WHY ARE THEY NOT IN THIS POSITION? WE CANNOT FUNCTION AS A CITY WITHOUT A CITY MANAGER. DO YOUR JOB. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT WE HAVE GILBERT MALDONADO, WHICH I DON'T SEE. OKAY. GOOD NEWS. I'M SORRY. I'M MOST LIKELY GOING TO. I'LL. I'LL BORROW GUERRA. HE WAS HERE TO SEE HIS TIME TO BE BACK.

FINISHED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LASTLY, WE HAVE MR. THOMAS WARDLOW. THANK YOU. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TOM WARDLOW. I LIVE IN THE EAGAR EGAN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF EAST POINT. MY RESIDENCE IS 1301 MERCER, AND I WANT TO SAY I. NUMBER ONE, AS I SAY, EVERY TIME I'M HERE, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS, IN FACT, MY GOVERNMENT AT WORK. GOOD OR BAD, HERE YOU ARE. OKAY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY I CAME TODAY AND I SAW THE NEW LAWN IS FLOURISHING OUT THERE. AND FOR THE PRIOR TWO YEARS, I WAS EMBARRASSED FOR THIS CITY AT THE CONDITION THAT THE CITY. HAS ALLOWED. OUR LAWN TO BE AND LOOKS LIKE. NEVER MIND. LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE HERE. MAYBE THEY DON'T. OKAY. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE LAWN LOOKS BETTER NOW. I APPRECIATE THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE FINALLY GOING ON IN ON SYLVAN. MY REAL REASON TO BE HERE TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE POWER BILL. I BRIEFLY DISCUSSED MY VIEW WITH THE MAYOR PRIOR TO THE MEETING. I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS. I KNOW THAT I CANNOT ADDRESS ANY OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL PROBLEM. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND IT'S SYSTEMIC. YOU KNOW, IT'S SYSTEMIC. OH, WELL. MAYBE IT'S NOT EVEN AN EAGAN PARK PROBLEM. MAYBE IT'S MAYBE IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. MAYBE IT'S NOT WARD B MAYBE, BUT THE PROBLEM I WANT TO ADDRESS IS MY ELECTRIC BILL. MY ELECTRIC BILL MORE THAN DOUBLED LAST MONTH, AND I GRAPHED OUT MY ELECTRIC BILL. AND IT TURNS OUT THE ONLY THREE MONTHS THAT THE ELECTRIC BILL WAS HIGHER WERE JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. NOW MY HOUSE IS HEATED WITH GAS, NOT ELECTRICITY. SO I EXPECT MY SUMMER ELECTRICITY TO GO UP. BUT IN WINTER THAT I GOT DOUBLE LAST YEAR'S. OH, COME ON NOW. I THINK PART OF THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE EXTENDS HERE. I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY, IF THERE'S AN ERROR, COME LOOK AT THIS. THAT WHO CAN. AND I HEARD SOMEBODY ELSE SAY, OH, WE GOT 18 BILLING CYCLES AND WE WANT TO WAIT TILL ALL OF THEM ARE DONE SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. OH, COME ON, LOOK AT ONE BILL. HE ALSO SAID THAT THEY HAD, WHAT, 25? I KNOW 13 OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE EXCHANGED MESSAGES INTERNALLY ABOUT THEIR PROBLEM. BILL. IT'S A BIG ISSUE. PLEASE FIX IT. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING.

OKAY. THANK MR. WALLER. COULD YOU TURN THAT OFF FOR ME, PLEASE? OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES THAT MEAN IT'LL JUST HELP WITH OUR AUDIO UP HERE? I KNEW YOU'D BE WILLING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

[XII. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. NEXT, WE HAVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS SIX THROUGH 18. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER,

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SHROPSHIRE. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SIX THROUGH 1818. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. ALL THOSE

[XIII.19. Council Discussion and Possible Action on HB 581 Estimated Millage Rate Certification]

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, WE NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON HOUSE BILL 581, ESTIMATED MILLAGE RATE CERTIFICATION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN, MISS JESSIE. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JEFFREY JACKSON IS HERE AS A FOLLOW UP TO THE INFORMATION SHARED AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I COME TO YOU TONIGHT.

TO PRESENT THE CERTIFICATION OF ESTIMATED ROLLBACK FOR APPROVAL, FOR TURNING IN BY FEBRUARY THE 28TH. AND IT STATES, I HEREBY CERTIFY TO THE FULTON COUNTY TAX COMMISSIONER THE ESTIMATED ROLLBACK RATE LISTED BELOW FOR THE TAX YEAR 2025. THE ESTIMATED ROLLBACK RATE IS THE CURRENT YEAR'S ESTIMATED MILLAGE RATE, MINUS THE MILLAGE EQUIVALENT OF THE TOTAL NET ASSESSED VALUE ADDED BY REASSESSMENTS AS DEFINED BY. OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA CODE SECTION 40 EIGHT.

DASH FIVE. DASH TWO AMENDED, AND THE ESTIMATED ROLLBACK THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS 13 MILLS. NOW, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE ACTUAL ROLLBACK. WE WON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL ROLLBACK UNTIL WE RECEIVE THE DIGEST AND THEN WE WILL COMPUTE IT. BUT WHAT THE STATE AND WHAT THE COUNTY IS ASKING IS THAT WE OVERESTIMATE USING LAST YEAR'S ROLLBACK JUST IN CASE IT COMES. IF IT COMES BACK HIGHER, WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE THREE. ADVERTISEMENT. IF IT IS ON POINT OR BELOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE ADVERTISEMENT. SO OUR ONLY OPTION WAS TO JUST TURN IT IN. IT IS NOT THE FINAL ROLLBACK. IT IS WHAT WE DEEMED WE NEED IN ORDER TO FOR THE CITY TO USE THE FUNDS PROPERLY, AS WE DID IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. I THINK AT THE SESSION YOU HAD A CERTIFICATION DOCUMENT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. I THINK. MR. MR. SHANNON HAD SOME DOCUMENTS ATTACHED OF ESTIMATED ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE THIS. I HAVE THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED COUNCIL TO APPROVE? YES, MA'AM.

THERE ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON. ITEM THREE? YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WHAT ARE WE CALLING IT? A CERTIFICATION. YES, SIR. THE CERTIFICATION OF ESTIMATED ROLLBACK 581 ESTIMATED MILLAGE RATE CERTIFICATION. SO MOVED THERE. SECOND. SECOND. BEEN MOVED PROPERLY. SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? AGAIN, I'LL JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD, MY CONCERN THAT THE ESTIMATED ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE IS 13. AND IN PREVIOUS YEARS IT'S BEEN 12 POINT I THINK 12 AND FIVE. YES, 12 AND 12.25 HAVE BEEN THE HIGHEST. BUT. YES, MA'AM. STAFF SHARED THAT THEY WERE ADVISED TO GO HIGHER THAN IN THEIR ESTIMATION, BUT THIS HAS NOT BEEN OUR ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 5 OR 6 YEARS OR MORE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[XIII.20. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Cooper Carry as the Selected Firm to Provide Professional Architectural Engineering Design and Construction Administration Services for the New Ward D Recreational Center in the Amount Not to Exceed $2,061,250.00: FUNDING SOURCE Hotel Motel Tax (TPD FUNDS): RFP #2024-1845]

NEXT UP, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON COOPER CARRY AS THE PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING DESIGN. SO THERE A SECOND. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MISS JESSIE, THE FLOOR IS OPEN. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, SHEILA PICKETT, PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR, IS HERE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

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GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL. VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT THE FIRM COOPER CARRY TO DO OUR DESIGN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FOR THE NEW MULTIPLEX REC CENTER. THIS PROJECT STARTED SOMETIME BEFORE COVID. IT WAS SHELVED AND PAUSED DURING THAT TIME. LATE 23, WE PUT OUT A SCOPE OF WORK. WE HAD NINE VENDORS WHO APPLIED TO DO THIS PROJECT. WE DEVELOPED A TEAM OF ABOUT FOUR PEOPLE, 4 TO 5 STAFF PERSONS. WE INTERVIEWED ALL NINE CANDIDATES AND NARROWED IT DOWN TO FOUR. BROUGHT OUR FINAL FOUR IN THROUGH THE POINT SYSTEM, THROUGH PROCUREMENT. WE ALL VOTED THAT COOPER CARRY WOULD BE THE FIRM THAT WE FEEL CAN BEST REPRESENT A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE. SO TODAY, I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO VOTE SO WE CAN BEGIN THIS PROCESS. WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE FACED WITH TIME RESTRICTION ON A PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE DEEDED TO US AS A CITY TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOPMENT TODAY. WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. ANY DISCUSSION OR WANT TO MAKE THAT ACTION? COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. COOPER CARRIE, AS A SELECTED FIRM TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURAL, ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICES FOR THE NEW WARD D.

RECREATION CENTER IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,061,250. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IMPROPERLY. SECOND, $2 MILLION FOR DESIGN. YES. DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. IS THAT THE LOWEST PRICE? IT WAS. MAYBE OUT OF THE FINAL FOUR. I WANT TO SAY THEY RANKED AS THE SECOND LOWEST. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS HIGHER. ONE. ONE FIRM WAS ACTUALLY DOUBLE THIS AMOUNT.

WHAT WAS THE LOWEST AMOUNT? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY LIKE ONE, BUT WE DIDN'T. YEAH I WANT TO SAY IT WAS LIKE 1.4. 1.4 MILLION WAS THE LOWEST. IT SHOULD BE. SO THAT'S ABOUT $600,000 LESS.

CORRECT. SO WE DID A SOLICITATION BOTH WAYS. IF YOU NOTICE, THERE'S TWO PRICES. THE 2 MILLION IS IF THE COMMUNITY DECIDES THAT A POOL WILL BE IN THE REC CENTER. IF IT'S NOT IN THE REC CENTER, IT'LL BE AT 1.8 MILLION. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ONCE THEY'RE ONBOARDED IS TO BEGIN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. COME BACK AND REPORT TO YOU ALL ON OUR FINDINGS, AND THEN WE WILL FINALIZE WHICH DIRECTION WE'LL BE GOING. WITH. ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR ASKING ME OUT ON THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ONE QUESTION I KNOW THIS IS FOR ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION. SO WOULD THEY BE IN THE CONTRACT OR. I MEAN, HOW DOES. I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION. SO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICE, IS THAT KIND OF LIKE A PROJECT MANAGER FOR IT OR.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO THEY'LL KIND OF SEE IT SEE IT FROM THE PROCESS. OKAY. CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. YEAH, I KIND OF HAD THE SAME QUESTION. SO WHAT ALL DOES THIS INCLUDE? SO IS IT LIKE, I GUESS DOES THIS IS NOT ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS JUST SOLELY TO OVERSEE THE PROJECT. NO. THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE DESIGN WORK COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO HOLD NINE UNTIL WE GET TO THE POINT OF SELECTING A VENDOR. THIS PART OF THE PROCESS IS EXPECTED TO BE 8 TO 10 MONTHS. ONCE THAT TIME OCCURS, THEY PUT THE BID PACKAGES TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIND A COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THE BUILDING, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE THEIR PROCESS THROUGH THE END. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DON'T WE HAVE GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. I'M SORRY. DIRECTOR PINKETT, YOU SAID THEY WOULD ALSO DO THE CHARRETTES COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THE DESIGN AND MANAGE THE PROCESS TO THE END. CORRECT. AND YOU ESTIMATE THAT TO BE HOW MANY MONTHS OR YEARS? OR DO THEY KNOW OR WAS THAT A PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL? SO I THINK IT WAS JANUARY 13TH MEETING. WE DID A

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TIMELINE BASED ON WHERE WE ARE TODAY. IT'S EXPECTED 8 TO 10 MONTHS FOR THIS PHASE OF IT.

ONCE WE GET TO THAT PHASE, THEN EXPECTED CONSTRUCTION IS ESTIMATED ABOUT 18 MONTHS. SO DEPENDING ON HOW QUICK WE KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE COME BACK AND UPDATE YOU ALL ON OUR FINDINGS. THEY'LL BEGIN THE DESIGN PHASE, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO TAKE 8 TO 10 MONTHS, BUT AN 18 MONTH BILL FROM THAT POINT. OKAY. AND THAT 18 MONTHS IS A PART OF THIS.

CORRECT AMOUNT. SO WE'RE TALKING 26 TO 28 MONTHS TOTAL FOR THIS AMOUNT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 8 TO 10 AND THEN 18. SO 26 TO 28 MONTHS OKAY. CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ON DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS

[XIII.21. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Non Owner Occupied Certification]

COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON NON OWNER OCCUPIED CERTIFICATION. THIS IS I'M GOING TO BUZZ IN. COUNCILMEMBER MEYER. YES. SINCE HE ISN'T HERE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE WORK SESSION BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE IMPACT. HAS THE CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT HER RECOMMENDATION BACK FOR IT YET? MADAM DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, SO WE DON'T HAVE A. THERE'S NOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, TO DO ANY DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING. IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT MORE TIME, YOU CAN DO A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO A WORK SESSION OR SOMETHING. BUT THERE'S NO MOTION TO DISCUSS YET. OKAY. THE WORK SESSION IS ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? THERE'S NOBODY. NOBODY. YES. MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE THE OWNER OCCUPIED ITEM THAT'S ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA. GO TO A WORK SESSION. OUR SECOND. SECOND. BECAUSE ANY DISCUSSION. DO YOU WANT TO SAY A SPECIFIC WORK SESSION? YOU JUST SAID A WORK SESSION. SO I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE GLAD TO WORK ON THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WORK SESSION FOR THE MONTH OF. MARCH.

RATHER IT'S MARCH OR APRIL. I WOULD JUST PUT IT ON MARCH. AND IF HE WANTS TO MOVE IT, YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE CANCEL THE WORK SESSION FOR MARCH. BUT SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IF WE CANCEL AND EVERYTHING MOVES TO THE 17TH, THE 17TH. SO JUST PUT IT ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE 3RD OF MARCH. JUST PUT IT. YEAH. THERE'S A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO A WORK SESSION. I MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MOVE IT TO THE THIRD OF THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN MARCH.

OKAY. EXCEPT IT. AND THE SECOND WAS BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. SO THE SECOND STILL STANDS. IS THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE MARCH 3RD COUNCIL MEETING. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS THE CITY OF EAST POINT NEXT GENERATION

[XIII.22. The City of East Point Next Generation Summer Internship Program]

SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION? I'M MOVING COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. THANK YOU. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION ON THE EAST POINT. THE EAST POINT NEXT GENERATION SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. THANK YOU.

SECOND MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DISCUSSION. OH.

ON THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. YEAH, FOR THE INTERNSHIP. BUT IT'S. OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

OH, YES. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. MYSELF? YES. THANK YOU. THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.

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I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MISS JESSE, WHO HAS PROVIDED US A DETAILED TIMELINE OF WHAT THE EAST POINT NEXT GENERATION SUMMER INTERNSHIP MENTOR PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE NEXT. I THINK IT MAY BE NINE MONTHS. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS JESSE.

THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY, BECAUSE THE CITY OF EAST POINT DOES HAVE AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. I DO THINK THERE WAS QUESTION QUESTIONS SURROUNDED AROUND THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AS TO HOW TO. WE STREAMLINE THIS OUT TO EAST POINT RESIDENTS. I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MISS JESSE THIS WEEK, BUT I'M SORRY, NOT EAST POINT RESIDENTS, BUT EAST POINT STUDENTS WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MISS JESSE AS OF YET, BUT I HAVE MADE QUITE A FEW CONNECTIONS WITH COUNSELORS THAT ARE IN THE ATLANTA UNIVERSITY CENTER AND ALSO AT CLAYTON STATE. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS JESSE.

THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT'S A JOKE. THIS IS A VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE OUR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL. THIS INCLUDES SOME, I THINK, CRITICAL STEPS IN IT BECAUSE NOT ONLY WILL WE DO A AN ORIENTATION FOR THE TEN WEEKS OF ON THE JOB TRAINING, BUT WE ALSO WILL PROVIDE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR MENTORSHIPS. THOSE MENTORSHIPS MAY OR MAY NOT BE WITH THE DIRECTOR THE FULL TEN WEEKS, BUT MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE WITH SOME OF THE MAJORS AND SOME OF THE.

PERSONNEL IN THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. BUT WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS TO OFFER OUR STUDENTS SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO UNDERSTAND CITY GOVERNMENT, THE PROCESSES AND GET ACCLIMATED TO THE WORLD OF WORK IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE SOME NETWORKS THAT WE CAN ACCESS IN TERMS OF GETTING STUDENTS WHO ARE RESIDENTS WILL WORK WITH OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. THEY HAVE A VAST NETWORK OF FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE COME TO THEM FOR SERVICES. I BELIEVE WE CAN TAP INTO THAT TO MAKE SURE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM. OUR WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT HAD AN ENVIRONMENTAL CLASS OR SOME CLASSES THAT THEY OFFERED TO EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A SOURCE OF RECRUITMENT FOR US. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING THIS AN INTERESTING BUT YET CHALLENGING PROGRAM. AND WE PUT A TIMELINE IN IT SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN WE'LL START. AS COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SAID SHE'S ALREADY BEEN RECRUITING THROUGH SOME OF THE AREA COLLEGES. WE HAVE CONTACTS AT MOREHOUSE AND SPELMAN, AND WE'LL BE MAKING USE OF THOSE CONTACTS, AS WELL AS GEORGIA STATE AND SCHOOLS WITHIN THE AU COMPLEX. THANK YOU. I REMEMBER, OH, COUNCILMAN ADKINS, COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS JESSIE, AND THANK YOU ALSO, COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. MY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. SO FOR THE PROGRAM, IS THIS A PAID INTERNSHIP PROGRAM? YES, SIR. AND IS THE PAID INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR EASTPOINTE STUDENTS OR EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS ONLY? NO, I BELIEVE THE REQUEST WAS FOR US TO GIVE PREFERENCE TO EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS INITIALLY. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD DURING COUNCIL. SO THEY WOULD RECEIVE PREFERENCE, BUT ALL OF THE

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POSITIONS WILL BE PAID. OKAY. SO THE ONLY THE CHALLENGE THAT I HAVE WITH IT, I KNOW THAT IF FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA AND YOU PARTICIPATE IN THEIR SUMMER WORK PROGRAM, YOU MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF ATLANTA BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR TAX DOLLARS AND GIVE THOSE TO THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF ATLANTA. SO IF WE HAVE INTERNS WHO ARE COMING HERE TO WORK, AND WE'VE GOT EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS WHO ARE STUDENTS WHO ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT SOMEONE WHO MAY LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IS GETTING THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND IN ESSENCE, GETTING THE TAX DOLLARS THAT THEIR HOUSEHOLD IS PAYING.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION AND HOPING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE CHILDREN WHO ARE STUDENTS IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, SO THAT WE WOULD BE GIVING OUR TAX DOLLARS BACK TO THOSE STUDENTS AND THOSE FAMILIES, AND ALSO GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE INNER WORKINGS OF CITY GOVERNMENT. YES, SIR. WE'RE OPEN. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE AS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COMING. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MISS JESSIE. SO I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER ADKINS SAID STUDENTS THAT ARE IN EASTPOINTE. I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SAID THAT SHE HAD GONE OUT TO LIKE THE AU CENTER, AND THOSE STUDENTS ARE. SO WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS? ARE WE LOOKING AT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR COLLEGE STUDENTS? I JUST I DIDN'T KNOW. I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF STUDENTS. IT JUST ALL DEPENDS. THEY JUST HAD TO BE STUDENTS. I KNOW WE HAVE ONE HIGH SCHOOL HERE IN EASTPOINTE, WHICH IS TRI CITY, SO OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO PUSH IT OUT TO THOSE STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF COLLEGE CREDITS THAT AN INTERNSHIP MUST HAVE, BUT I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT. BUT IT IS STUDENT CENTERED, THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AND STUDENT CENTER. BUT YES, WE WOULD START AT, OF COURSE, TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD, AND THEN MAYBE ROLL IT OUT TO THOSE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES THAT, YES, I'M SORRY. YES, YES. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOTH. YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW THAT THE CITY ALREADY WORKS WITH INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS THROUGH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, EASTPOINTE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE GET A NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE THROUGH THEIR PROGRAMS. WE ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINS HAD A CONNECTION WITH THE PROGRAM THAT YOU REFERRED US TO. YES. WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. AND THOSE ARE ARE HIGH SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS. AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY OF INTRODUCING THEM TO WORK AS WELL. SO WE'RE OPEN. OKAY. SO THAT'S APPLICANT. HOW MANY STUDENTS WILL BE IN THE PROGRAM TO. SAY TEN? TEN. OKAY.

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHO'S FUNDING IT. SO LIKE FULTON COUNTY PAYS FOR THOSE RIGHT FROM THE INTERNSHIPS. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF THROUGH ANY OTHER THING. I MEAN, OTHER THAN THAT IT'S GENERAL FUND. YES. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE USING SALARY SAVINGS FOR INTERNSHIPS OR HOW WE'RE FUNDING IT. BUT, MISS JESSIE, IF YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING SOURCE. RIGHT. AND HOW MANY WE GET FROM FULTON COUNTY. I KNOW ONE YEAR FULTON COUNTY DIDN'T PAY OUR MINIMUM WAGE, SO WE SUPPLEMENT IT LIKE FROM WHAT THEY PAID TO GET THE INTERNS UP TO THE $15 MINIMUM WAGE AT THE TIME. RIGHT. SO CITY MINIMUM WAGE. SO I THINK IT DEPENDS. OKAY. AND ALSO, UNFORTUNATELY, PROGRAMS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TAPPED INTO MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NORMALLY WOULD GET A GRANT THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE SUMMER ACTIVITIES EMPLOYMENT OR WHAT HAVE YOU. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL GET THAT AGAIN. THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. THEY DIDN'T

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REQUIRE US TO PAY. WE COULD PROVIDE A STIPEND, BUT THEY PROVIDED BENEFITS OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO. SO I THINK IT IT'S DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING SOURCES. IF WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON OUR DEPARTMENT BUDGETS, THEN IT MAY NOT BE AS VAST AS WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE. OKAY. WORK HOURS.

IS IT CITY WORKING HOURS? OKAY. THEY WON'T DO EIGHT HOURS, THOUGH. OKAY. I SAW THE 29 HOURS. OKAY. AND ALSO, THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO EXTEND OUR FUNDS. OKAY. MEET. SERVE MORE PEOPLE. IF THEY WERE ABLE TO DO FOUR HOURS. PERHAPS PEOPLE COULD DO FOUR HOURS IN THE MORNING. SOMEBODY COULD DO FOUR HOURS IN THE AFTERNOON. WE'LL WORK ON THE PROGRAM DESIGN.

OKAY. AND FOR THOSE STUDENTS I KNOW TRANSPORTATION MAY BE AN ISSUE FOR SOME. ARE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE MARTA CARDS FOR SOME OF THE STUDENTS FOR TRANSPORTATION? THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDERED. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. AND LAST THING, IS THERE A FLIER THAT WE COULD. NOT YET. OKAY.

BUT WE WILL. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I YIELD. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. THANK YOU. I MY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS ASKED ABOUT THE AGE. DO WE HAVE AT LEAST A MINIMUM IN MIND? WE HAVE. WE HAVE TAKEN YOUNGER PEOPLE FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT THEY SPONSORED. SO WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE HERE 15 YEARS OF AGE. BUT WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE OLDER TEENS AT LEAST 16 YEARS OF AGE. OKAY. IT JUST FEELS LIKE CRITERIA FOR SELECTION, AS WELL AS THE CAPACITY OF WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE ON, IS QUITE DIFFERENT. YES, TALKING EVERYTHING FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL TO COLLEGE. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS TO BRING BACK WHAT WE HAVE AS A JOB DESCRIPTION. SO YOU'LL GET AN IDEA FOR THE YOUTHS IN A CERTAIN AGE GROUP. THEY WERE REALLY FILE, YOU KNOW, MAKE COPIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE OLDER YOUTHS WOULD THEN DO TANGIBLE WORK PROJECTS. THEY COULD HELP DO SOME RESEARCH AND REALLY HAVE GET MORE MEANING OUT OF THOSE COLLEGE STUDENTS FOR SURE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO EVEN CONSTITUENT SERVICES. I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT USED INTERNS. THEY ASSISTED THEM WITH SOME OF THEIR CONSTITUENT SERVICES. IF THEY WERE HAVING A TOWN HALL MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD HELP THEM GET THE FLIERS OUT, MAKE PHONE CALLS, THAT KIND OF THING. BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY GET YOU SOME JOB DESCRIPTIONS BASED ON AGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST LAST QUESTION. WHO IS THE SUMMER INTERNSHIP COMMITTEE? WHO DOES THAT CONSIST OF? WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS, SOME OF OUR STAFF IN HUMAN RESOURCES. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU. MISS JESSIE WITH THIS. AND I WAS JUST SPEAKING WITH COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, AND SHE SAID I SHOULD ALSO JUST ASK YOU THE QUESTION, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU MENTIONED MAY NOT GET FUNDING, AND SO SOME OF THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE MAY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS PREVIOUSLY. IF THIS IS A PAID INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EASTPOINTE STUDENTS AND CHILDREN ARE IN STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENTS AND LEARNING SOMETHING, BUT ALSO GETTING PAID, CAN WE MAKE THIS PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE PAYING FOR INTERNS FOR EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS AND EASTPOINTE STUDENTS ONLY? SO HAVE IT OPEN TO EVERYBODY. I THOUGHT WE WERE ONLY THINKING HAVING IT FOR EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS. I THINK OF WHEN MUNICIPALITIES DO SUMMER

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INTERNSHIPS OR WORK PROGRAMS. ONLY THE RESIDENTS OF THAT MUNICIPALITY ARE ELIGIBLE. I THINK IT'S A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW FOR EASTPOINTE TAXPAYERS WHO HAVE CHILDREN WHO CAN'T GET INTO OTHER PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE ARE BRINGING IN KIDS FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND PAYING THEM THE DOLLARS THAT THEIR HOUSEHOLDS ARE PAYING INTO OUR GENERAL FUND. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EASTPOINTE STUDENTS FROM EASTPOINTE FAMILIES ARE BENEFITING FROM THE PAID INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS, GIVE THEM LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES, REDUCE THE LEARNING GAP IN THE SUMMERTIME, HAVE THEM IN A STRUCTURED ACTIVITY, AND NOT JUST SOMEWHERE DOING SOMETHING THAT OUR POLICE MIGHT HAVE TO GO AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS AND JUST A POSITIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM. THAT'S FAIR. WE CAN DEFINITELY SET THAT AS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT IS OPEN FOR EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS ONLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU.

SO, MISS JESSIE, HERE'S MY QUESTION. HOW MANY EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS APPLY FOR IT? HOW MANY RESIDENTS DO YOU ACTUALLY GET FROM EASTPOINTE FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY? WE DON'T DO THE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THOSE POSITIONS. THEY DO, AND THEY LOOK TO ASSIGN STUDENTS AT VARIOUS WORK LOCATIONS. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY RECRUIT. OKAY. BECAUSE HERE'S HERE'S MY THING. AND I'M FOR EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS. BUT WHAT IF YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS TO DO THE INTERNSHIP? THEN WHAT? SO I THINK THAT'S A NICE IDEA. AND I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IN ATLANTA, BUT ATLANTA IS VERY HUGE IN EASTPOINTE IS NOT THE SIZE OF ATLANTA. SO I DON'T WANT FOR ANY STUDENT TO MISS ANY OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN INTERNSHIP. AND I THINK YOU STATED THAT EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS WOULD GET PREFERENCE.

CORRECT. THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED OFF, BASED ON THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL INPUT. EXACTLY. BUT I'M OPEN TO THEY WOULD GET PREFERENCE. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO COME DO INTERNSHIP, THEN WHAT? YOU STILL HAVE STUDENTS THAT ARE AT CLARK, SPELMAN, ATLANTA, METRO COLLEGE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR INTERNSHIP STARTED WITH THEM. YEAH, IN METRO COLLEGE. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DENY ANY STUDENT, ANY ANY CHILD OR STUDENT THE. WAY TO DO AN INTERNSHIP. THAT'S MY TAKE. IF EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO GET FIRST PREFERENCE FOR THE INTERNSHIP, THEN I'M FINE. BUT TO JUST SAY IT GOES TO EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS ONLY. YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO DO IT. THEN WHAT? SO I THINK TO LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS AND JUST MAKE EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS A PREFERENCE. PREFERENCE WHERE THEY GET IT FIRST AND THEN ONCE THE SLOTS FILLED OR HOWEVER MANY NUMBERS, THEN THAT'S IT. BUT IT'S STILL OPEN FOR EVERYBODY TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY. COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROBERTS. YES. I WANTED TO REFLECT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO EASTPOINTE, IT WAS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YEARS AGO, AND WE ONLY DID IT WITH STUDENTS FROM ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE. THOSE STUDENTS AT ATLANTA METROPOLITAN COLLEGE, THEY WERE EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS, SO THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN I HAD MY FIRST INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, I WASN'T TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY WHERE I LIVE. I WENT RIGHT DOWNTOWN TO THE DELRAY BEACH CITY HALL AND HAD AN INTERNSHIP. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, EASTPOINTE STUDENTS WILL RECEIVE PRIORITY, BUT WHAT IF THEY DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT? WHAT IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT THAT WANTS TO COME FROM COLLEGE PARK? SO JUST OPEN TO ALL SUGGESTIONS. AND WHAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE STUDENTS IN AND AROUND EASTPOINTE. THANK YOU, MISS JESSIE. MISS JESSIE. DO WE KNOW

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THE PAY AMOUNT? MADAM MAYOR, WE WOULD STICK WITH THE $15.45 AN HOUR. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I THINK WE'RE TALKING IN THE ABSTRACT WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THE POSITIONS AND THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS CAN FILL VERSUS THOSE THAT WILL REQUIRE COLLEGE STUDENTS. I KNOW WE'VE HAD INTERNS FROM GEORGIA TECH, GEORGIA STATE. I'M NOT SURE IF WHO PAID OR HOW THAT WORKED. WHETHER IT WAS PAYMENT THROUGH THE COLLEGE OR DID WE PAY THEM? IT WAS A MIXTURE. SOME HAD TO DO THE INTERNSHIP FOR COLLEGE CREDIT, RIGHT? SO THEY DIDN'T GET PAID. IT WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR MAJOR. SO I THINK THE WE'RE NOT SAYING DON'T DO ANY OF THOSE, BUT I THINK THE CONCERN IS WHEN WE'RE USING TAXPAYER GENERAL FUND MONEY TO PAY FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS, WHO DO WE. TARGET FOR THAT? I WILL ALSO SAY THAT WHILE TRI-CITIES SITS IN EAST POINT. EAST POINT RESIDENTS ARE ZONED FOR OTHER SCHOOLS. MY DAUGHTER IS ZONED FOR WESTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT SHE GOES TO GLOBAL IMPACT ACADEMY, WHICH IS A FULL FULTON COUNTY SCHOOL.

STEM SCHOOL. I THINK SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS IN EAST POINT MIGHT BE ZONED TO BANNEKER BASED UPON ATTENDANCE ZONE. AND SO I THINK FOCUSING ON RESIDENTS VERSUS SCHOOL, EVEN IF IT'S HIGH SCHOOL, IS IMPORTANT. WE MAY HAVE SOME STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL IN EAST POINT THAT ATTEND WOODWARD. THE DRIVING FORCE OF WOODWARD IS IN EAST POINT. THEIR BUS BARN, RIGHT, IS IN EAST POINT. SO I THINK THE RESIDENTS REQUIREMENT IS A GOOD WAY TO DEAL WITH WHAT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SCHOOL THEY GO TO, THEY LIVE IN EAST POINT. I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT POSITIONS AND WHICH ONES ARE FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. OF THOSE, WHICH ONES WOULD BE PAID BY FULTON COUNTY? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT TO INTERN IN THE CITY, MAYBE WE USE THE FULTON COUNTY FUNDING VERSUS THE EAST POINT FUNDING. RIGHT.

LIKE FIGURING OUT A WAY TO LEVERAGE OR BRAID AND BLEND FUNDING TO LIKE, GET THE MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION OR MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF POSITIONS THAT WE CAN. BUT IF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS ARE BEING USED, PRIORITIZING EAST POINT RESIDENTS AND FOCUSING ON RESIDENCY AND NOT NECESSARILY SCHOOLING, WE STILL WANT THE GEORGIA TECH INTERNS. WE STILL WANT THE GEORGIA STATE INTERNS.

WE STILL WANT THE INTERNS FROM THE AU CENTER. I'VE HAD AN INTERN FROM SPELMAN. RIGHT? LIKE WE STILL WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND BE A PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, SECONDARY AND POST-SECONDARY STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GET EXPERIENCE HERE. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. IT'S GOING POTENTIALLY IT'S GOING TO ROLL OVER INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. I THINK THE START DATE WAS. START DATE IS MAY 26TH. AND ENDING IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY. SO I MEAN, THAT'S TWO FISCAL YEARS RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. SO LIKE THERE'S A WAY FOR DEPARTMENTS TO LOOK AT SALARY SAVINGS PLUS NEED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT JUST HAVE PEOPLE HERE AND THEY'RE NOT LEARNING ANYTHING. TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW MANY INTERNSHIP POSITIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHERE WOULD THE FUNDING COME FROM. AND I THINK SINCE WE'RE IN THE BUDGET SEASON, KNOWING THAT INFORMATION HELPS BUDGET OR PROJECT, RIGHT. AND ALSO PRIORITIZING, LIKE IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT. THE FUNDS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THE POSITIONS AND THE SKILLS NEEDED FOR THE POSITIONS AND WHERE. IT'S A HIGH SCHOOL INTERNSHIP OR COLLEGE INTERNSHIP AND ALL OF THAT. BUT THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SUMMER INTERNS, BUT ALSO INTERNS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FROM DIFFERENT COLLEGES AND

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UNIVERSITIES TO HELP FOR THEM TO GET EXPERIENCE AND FOR US THEM TO HELP US MOVE THE CITY FORWARD. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AND WE'LL BRING MORE INFORMATION BACK. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ACTION ON THAT. NEXT UP IS OH, ALSO THE MARTA CARDS. MARTA, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH YEAR, BUT I THINK THEY GAVE US SOME MARTA CARDS, AND THEY'RE OFTEN WILLING TO DO THAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE THEM A NUMBER. SO ONCE WE ALSO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND WE FIGURE OUT WHO NEEDS WHAT, LIKE

[XIII.23. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Utility Rate Study]

WE COULD ALSO REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN FOR MARTA CARDS. NEXT UP IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE UTILITY RATE STUDY. I THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST STARTING THE STUDY LIKE IT'S NOT DONE. CAN WE GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR? NEED A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES, MISS JESSE. MADAM MAYOR THOMAS MANGRUM IS HERE. HE'S FOLLOWING UP ON A PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE. DURING THE LAST MEETING ON THE UTILITY RATE STUDY. EVENING, MADAM. MAYOR. COUNCIL. COUNCIL. WHAT I'M BRINGING BACK TO YOU TODAY, MR. CHOW. CHOW WING SHING. CHO CHO SHING FROM ACG PRESENTED A DISTRIBUTED GENERATOR.

GENERATOR? ROUTER RATE. WHAT IT IS, THAT'S THE SOLAR ENERGY RATES RIGHT NOW. WE DO NOT HAVE THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE DO NOT HAVE ENERGY RATE FOR LOWEST DEMAND OR MEDIUM DEMAND CUSTOMERS WHEN IT COMES TO THEM DISTRIBUTING SOLAR ENERGY ON OUR ON OUR SYSTEM. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO DO WITH THAT IS DENY THEM UNTIL WE CAN GET A RATE APPROVED THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER CITIES. THAT THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M BRINGING BACK TO YOU TONIGHT. THIS IS NOT THE ENERGY RATE STUDY. THIS IS THE DISTRIBUTED DISTRIBUTED GENERATION WRITER. WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU TAKE FOLLOW RECOMMENDATION FURTHER FOR THE RATE FOR THE LARGE POWER CUSTOMERS, IT WOULD BE 18.62 PER KWH PER MONTH. AND FOR MEDIUM POWER CUSTOMERS, 18.3 PER KW H KW PER MONTH. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE CITIES. AT THIS POINT. THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE WOULD BE LOSING OUT IF WE ALLOW THEM CUSTOMERS TO COME ON TO OUR SYSTEM WITHOUT A WITHOUT A RATE THAT WE CAN BUILD THEM ON. SO THIS ISN'T REDLINED. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE RESIDENTIAL, THE GENERAL SERVICE NON DEMAND AND THE SMALL POWER RATES WE ALREADY HAD. WHAT I BELIEVE THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED RATE FOR ALL.

I'M NOT I DIDN'T I DON'T THINK THAT HE MADE ANY CHANGES. BUT I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW IT AND SEE FOR THE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT RATE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL I, I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT. SO STAFF IS ASKING THAT WE ADOPT THIS, APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT TITLED CITY OF EASTPOINTE ELECTRIC SERVICE TARIFF DISTRIBUTED GENERATION RIDER. THEY YOU'RE ASKING FOR. WE'RE ASKING TO GET THIS APPROVED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE WOULD LIKE WE SAID WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU LAST WEEK.

IT WAS A PART OF HIS PRESENTATION. AND AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, HE HAD IT WHERE IT WAS AN ACTION ITEM. AND ALICIA PERSONS, I WAS OUT SICK LAST WEEK. SO ALICIA PERSONS, WE LEFT WITHOUT GETTING THIS. WE'RE NOT GETTING A VOTE ON THIS. BECAUSE IT'S A WORK SESSION. I'M JUST WONDERING THE PROPER FORMAT FOR THIS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ORDINANCE OR IF IT'S A RESOLUTION. IS THIS A POLICY? BECAUSE THE WAY IS DRAFTED IS JUST APPROVING THE RATES. AND I MEAN, IT'S WRITTEN HERE HAS ALL THE DIFFERENT RATES. SO COUNCIL COULD APPROVE

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IT. AND IF STAFF IF LEGAL NEEDS TO PUT IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT THEY COULD BRING IT BACK TO US.

IS THERE ANY ACTION. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. SO YOU SAID THAT IF WE THAT IF WE APPROVE IT, IF STAFF NEEDS TO PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT, THEN THEY CAN BRING IT BACK TO US ON AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AT THE THIRD. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I DON'T KNOW, LIKE HOW MUCH NOTICE WE HAVE TO GIVE. SO IT CAN WE CAN EFFECTIVELY APPROVE THE STAFF CAN DO IT RIGHT. BUT HOW MUCH NOTICE LIKE ALL OF THE LOGISTICS AROUND THAT. MAYBE THIS APPROVAL GETS THEM MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT IF THAT'S THE MOTION. SO MOVED. OH. TITLE DISTRIBUTED GENERATION WRITER. MOTION TO APPROVE THE DISTRIBUTED GENERATION WRITER THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. AND IT'S FOR BUSINESS. YES. YES, MA'AM. IT'S FOR BUSINESSES FOR LARGE BUSINESS. YES, IT HAS RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S WHY I SAID GENERAL SERVICE. NON DEMAND, SMALL POWER, MEDIUM POWER AND LARGE POWER. SO THERE ARE FIVE RATES IN HERE. SO THAT'S WHY I SAID FOR LARGE BUSINESS ONLY BECAUSE YOU SAID IT'S FOR BUSINESS ONLY. NO. NO MA'AM. WELL FOR MR. WHAT HE HAS HERE, HE HAS LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, HE HAS FOR RESIDENTIAL. GENERATORS, GENERAL SERVICE, NON DEMAND, SMALL POWER, MEDIUM POWER AND LARGE POWER. SO WHAT I CAN DO I CAN GET CLARIFICATION ON THIS AND REVIEW WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND WE PRESENT THIS. BRING THIS BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE PROPER STEPS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE DOING SOMETHING INCREASING, NO RESIDENTS POWER. SO WE HAVE A CURRENT DISTRIBUTED GENERATION ORDINANCE. SECTION 8-2104. AND IN IT. THE MONTHLY METERING CHARGE IS 250. WELL SINGLE DIRECTIONAL IT SAYS 450. MONTHLY CAPACITY IS. YEAH. SO SINCE WE HAVE A ORDINANCE, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE AMENDING THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME TITLE DISTRIBUTED GENERATION. I DON'T KNOW, HAVEN'T GOTTEN DOWN TO A WRITER YET, BUT. RIDERS AND ADJUSTMENTS AND IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 8-2104 DEALS WITH DISTRIBUTED GENERATION AND 8-2105 IS RIDERS AND ADJUSTMENTS TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ELECTRIC RATES. SO I'M NOT SURE.

BUT THE FORMAT AND THAT IS GIVEN IN THE CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE CHANGING RESIDENTIAL.

WHAT'S ASKED IS FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. AND I JUST PASS THROUGH THIS QUICKLY, BUT I'M NOT SURE THE YES MY APOLOGIES. LET PLEASE GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS BACK BEFORE YOU AFTER I REVIEW WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING BACK TO YOU. ATTORNEY FREEMAN, DID YOU GET THOSE ORDINANCE SECTIONS, MADAM MAYOR? I DID GET THEM. EIGHT DASH 2104 AND 2105. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO THE MARCH 3RD AGENDA. MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE MARCH 3RD. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION

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CARRIES. WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MARCH 2025 WORK SESSION. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. SO. HOW MANY PEOPLE GOING TO THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. 1234. SO WE WON'T HAVE QUORUM. AND SO IN THE PAST, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE PRESSING THAT WE NEED TO

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DISCUSS, THEY GO TO THE MARCH 17TH AGENDA. SO LIKE AND STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO BRING ITEMS BEFORE US AT WORK SESSIONS. IT CAN REALLY JUST GO TO THE AGENDA. BUT INSTEAD OF US LIKE KNOWING NOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A QUORUM AND SHOWING UP AND NOT HAVING ONE AND HAVING TO RESCHEDULE, WE COULD DO AS WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY IS CANCEL THAT WORK SESSION, BECAUSE WORK SESSIONS ARE ACTUALLY A CREATURE OF RESOLUTION, NOT EVEN ORDINANCE. THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT TALKS ABOUT ITEMS GOING TO THE WORK SESSION FIRST, BUT THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT AS TO THE DAY AND TIME AS THERE IS FOR OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS. AND SO WE COULD CANCEL THE MARCH 10TH WORK SESSION. OR IF YOU ALL DON'T LIKE THE WORK, CANCEL PIVOT ONE. NO, WE CAN'T REALLY PIVOT BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME TIME AS THE. ORDINANCE OR CHARTER REQUIRED COUNCIL MEETINGS SO WE COULD CANCEL IT. AND THEN THOSE ITEMS WOULD EITHER GO TO THE MARCH 2ND 17TH IF THEY'RE CRITICAL OR TIME HAVE A TIME CONSTRAINT, OR THEY CAN GO TO THE APRIL WORK SESSION. SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PLAN. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. I KNOW IN THE PAST IT HAS GONE. MOST OF THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE COUNCIL MEETIN.

AND ANYTHING THAT IF IT'S CRITICAL, TIME SENSITIVE, IF IT'S NOT TIME SENSITIVE, THEN USUALLY STAFF JUST PUT IT ON THE APRIL WORK SESSION. ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT THE MOTION HAS BEEN BEFORE? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE DID. I MEANT TO LOOK IT UP WHETHER IT WAS COUNCIL OR LET ME LOOK IT UP REAL QUICK.

LET'S SEE. IT KIND OF STARTS OUT COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF RESCHEDULING OF AGENDA ITEMS FOR MARCH. WHATEVER WORK SESSION TO THE MARCH, WHATEVER COUNCIL MEETING. SO MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THE MARCH 10TH WORK SESSION, ITEMS TO THE MARCH 17TH COUNCIL MEETING IS WHAT'S NEEDED. SO MOVED. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALTHOUGH THAT SAID IT. RIGHT, MADAM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE NOW AT

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COUNCIL. COMMENTS? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. ANY COMMENTS? YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK TONIGHT IN REGARDS TO THE EXPLOSIONS IN EGAN PARK. I, I WOULD SAY THAT. SO EXPLOSIONS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO REGULATE. ACTUALLY. THEY'RE EXPLOSIONS PERIOD. ARE NOT REGULATED BY ANY REGULATORY AGENCY. THEY'RE NOT REGULATED BY THE EPA. EPD NOTHING LIKE THAT. THEY ARE ONLY CALLED ON IF THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENS. AND THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATION DONE FOR SAFETY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU EXPERIENCE AN EXPLOSION IS THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS SHOULD CALL 911, BECAUSE THE NEXT STEP IS TO CALL THE EPA HOTLINE. WHO WILL ASK YOU IF YOU'VE CALLED 911? THE EPA HOTLINE IS ONE (800) 424-8802. AND THEN I ALSO ASK EVERYBODY, PLEASE USE SEECLICKFIX TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE IS AN EXPLOSION. BECAUSE IF IT DIDN'T

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IF YOU DIDN'T DOCUMENT IT, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO TRY TO REDUCE THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING. THE MORE TIMES THAT WE DOCUMENT IT, THE MORE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THINGS. AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT, AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. AND I WILL SAY THIS. TO THE RESIDENT WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE STABILITY PLEDGE THAT THAT GOES BOTH WAYS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, COMING DOWN, SPEAKING OUT FOR WHAT THEY WANT, FOR WHAT THEY KNOW WAS BEST FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT APPEARS THAT IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION. AND IT WAS IT'S NICE WHEN IT'S NOT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU DON'T SEE THE WRONG IN AS ONE, AS ONE RESIDENT SAID. BECAUSE WHEN YOU ALLOW PERSONAL FEELINGS TO CLOUD THE WAY YOU VOTE, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. IT SEEMS THAT EVERY TIME RESIDENTS FROM WARD D COMES TO SPEAK, THIS COUNCIL VOTES AGAINST WHAT THEY WANT OR FEEL THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT WAS ALSO SAID THAT IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK THEY I BELIEVE THEY SAID OAKLEY. SAME ISSUE. TRUCK TRAFFIC. ODOR, EVERYTHING ELSE. IT'S THE SAME ISSUE. SO WHY DO THIS COUNCIL HAVE TO GO AGAINST WHAT THOSE PEOPLE WANT? BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BACKYARD, THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WANT OR THEY WANT AND HOW THEY WANT IT DONE. SO I WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTS. I WILL ALWAYS LISTEN TO WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THEY DON'T WANT. AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THEY'VE SAID WHAT THEY THEY DON'T WANT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M GOING TO STAND WITH THEM. AND I DO WANT TO KNOW WITH MISS JOHNSON. AND I KNOW THAT PROBLEM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND I REMEMBER MISS JOHNSON COMING TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, SPEAKING AT I THINK AT THE TIME IT WAS HER BRIDGE. IT WAS HER BRIDGE. SO IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MISS JOHNSON'S PROPERTY, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT THE FIRST TIME MISS JOHNSON HAD PROBLEMS ON HER PROPERTY. SO, MISS JESSIE, IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON MISS JOHNSON'S PROPERTY. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. AND FIRST, I HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS OR A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE. THE FIRST IS I AM GOING TO BE PARTNERING WITH EASTPOINT PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE MIRACLE LEAGUE TO HAVE A SPECIAL FRIENDS DAY ON APRIL 5TH IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINT. SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO UTILIZE THE EASTPOINT PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AT JEFFERSON PARK FOR THAT EVENT. TO START. I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY TRY TO START AT 10 A.M. YEAH, THAT'S THE MOTION. THANK YOU. SECOND MOTION. PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? DISCUSSION. OH, I SORRY, I WAS COMING IN RIGHT AS YOU WERE. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELEY. SO THE MOTION IS TO USE THE RECREATION CENTER? YES. JUST FOR A THE MIRACLE LEAGUE PROVIDES SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS WITH A GAME OF SOFTBALL. IT'S AN INDOOR SOFTBALL GAME. WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY NEED ABOUT 40 VOLUNTEERS TO PAIR WITH THE CHILDREN. THE CHILDREN ALL HAVE A SPECIAL NEED, BUT THAT IS A PART OF THE MIRACLE LEAGUE. THEY

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ALLOW THESE STUDENTS TO COME OUT AND JUST HAVE A GAME, A SOFT GAME OF SAFE SOFTBALL. AND DO YOU HAVE A DATE? OH. APRIL 5TH, I SAID A NO. I SAID APRIL 5TH. SEVENTH. WAIT A MINUTE. IT'S THE FIFTH. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. THE PARKS AND RECREATION ALREADY WORKS. PARTNERS WITH MIRACLE LEAGUE. THEY CAME. MIRACLE TEAM CAME TO A MEETING NOT TOO LONG AGO AND ANNOUNCED THE PARTNERSHIP. SO THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE MIRACLE LEAGUE. THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH PARKS AND REC. THEY SHARED IT BEFORE. SO THIS IS AN EVENT ON APRIL 5TH? YES, AT 10 A.M. YES. YEAH.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NOPE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN. THANK YOU. ALSO, WARD D RESIDENTS, WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST COMMUNITY GATHERING ON MARCH 29TH AT 10 A.M. PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR LOCATION OF THAT. I WILL ALSO OF THAT MEETING. I WILL ALSO LIKE TO THANK WARD D RESIDENTS WHO CAME TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE CAN NO LONGER ELECT PEOPLE WHO DON'T SERVE US TO REPRESENT US. IT'S ONLY TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WAREHOUSE ADVOCACY MOVEMENT WITH ME, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHORT. THEY'VE COME TO COUNTLESS COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS. WARD D HAS THE SECOND HIGHEST NUMBER OF WAREHOUSES IN THE APPLICATIONS THAT CAME THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO LISTENED TO BY THAT COMMISSION.

AND AS THE CHAIR OF ANY MEETING, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO GUIDE THE CONVERSATION WITH FAIRNESS, DIPLOMACY AND CLARITY. YOU CAN'T COME AT THE 11TH HOUR AND WANT TO COMPROMISE ENTIRE COMMUNITIES QUALITY OF LIFE. THERE WERE FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES AGAINST OUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. NOW, THE PETITIONER WILL RETURN BEFORE COUNCIL IN 60 DAYS, REQUESTING THAT WE DISREGARD OUR OWN ORDINANCE OF THE DISTANCE. SINCE 2021, 56 WAREHOUSES HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 26 IN WARD D AND 30 IN WARD B. I LIVE IN WARD D AND I'M SOMEONE WHO IS IMPACTED BY WAREHOUSES WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS PUT ON THE PROPERTY, NOT ONE CONDITION. WAS GREEN SPACE, A COMMUNITY MEETING SPACE, A MUSEUM, A SMALL FOOD HALL WITH A PLAY AREA, ARTESIAN WORKSHOP, A LIBRARY. EVERY CONDITION WAS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PETITIONER AND NOT THE COMMUNITY. THE MOST TROUBLING, THE MOST TROUBLING PART IS WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE BRINGING. THEY JUST WANTED US TO COMPROMISE. AND FIVE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL DID THAT WITHOUT A SOLID PLAN. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THE HEALTHY POINT WILL KICK OFF ON MARCH 29TH OF THIS YEAR AND GO THROUGH JUNE 28TH. SAVE THE DATE WILL BE COMING OUT SOON AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE ACTIVITIES AGAIN. I WILL SAY THAT IT'S BECOMING A PATTERN THAT WHEN WAREHOUSES WANT TO GO IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY, IT'S OKAY. BUT WHEN THEY WANT TO GO IN OTHERS, IT'S NOT OKAY. I THINK IT WAS IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR. IT WAS IN JANUARY. IT WAS A FEBRUARY MEETING. IT'S A WAREHOUSE THAT WAS ATTEMPTING TO COME ON WILLINGHAM DRIVE, AND COUNCIL WAS ASKED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER, NEWLY ELECTED, TO NOT SUPPORT THAT WAREHOUSE. BUT WHEN IT'S IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE SAME LEVEL OF. ANTI WAREHOUSE. NOT ONLY THAT, WHEN WE HAD THE MORATORIUM, THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT OF 5280FT WAS A RECOMMENDATION AND SUGGESTION THAT CAME UP DURING THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH MEMBERS OF THE EAST POINT ENVIRONMENTAL COLLECTIVE, WHICH INCLUDED AT THE TIME, COUNCILMAN, WHO'S NOW COUNCIL MEMBER KERRY ZIEGLER, AND JULIE AIRING. I THINK JULIE'S LAST NAME IS AIRING TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THE NEW INDUSTRIAL THAT

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COMES INTO OUR CITY. AND SO THE APPETITE TO DEAL WITH OR CONSIDER A VARIANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW NEW INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT WAS A PURPOSE OF THE ONE MILE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. I THINK WE EVEN HAD A LESSER DISTANCE, AND IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT IT SHOULD AT LEAST BE A MILE, WHICH IS WHERE THE 5280 CAME FEET CAME FROM. BUT TO SUGGEST NOW THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A VARIANCE FOR THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN OTHER AREAS OF OUR CITY, BUT IN THE AREA THAT HAS MORE THAN IT CAN SHARE OF WAREHOUSES, MORE THAN ITS SHARE OF TRUCK TRAFFIC, MORE THAN ITS SHARE OF NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE, IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT MOVES FORWARD. I WILL ALSO. LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GOING TO REMIND PEOPLE, AND I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN. SO I WILL NOT SAY THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER.

BUT ARE THERE ANY? OPEN? I WILL SAY IN ANY OTHER COMMENTS, ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS FROM

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LEGAL TONIGHT? YES, MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE PERSONNEL, ONE LEGAL AND ONE REAL ESTATE. ONE PERSONNEL, ONE LEGAL AND ONE REAL ESTATE. ANY FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE A PERSONNEL. I HAVE A PERSONNEL AND LEGAL. ANYONE ELSE LEGAL? REAL ESTATE AND PERSONNEL. SO THREE PERSONNEL.

SO TWO REAL ESTATE FOR PERSONNEL AND THREE LEGAL SO FAR. ANYONE ELSE? SO MOVED TO REAL ESTATE.

YOU SAID YOU HAD ONE OF EACH, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. YOU SAID YOU HAD ONE. PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. YOU SAID ONE PERSONNEL, ONE LEGAL AND COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLI. YOU SAID ONE REAL ESTATE. NO, SHE DIDN'T HAVE PERSONAL. I HAD A PERSONNEL IN THE REAL ESTATE. OH, PERSONNEL AND A REAL ESTATE LITIGATION.

LEGAL LITIGATION. OKAY. SO WE GET A MOTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR. TO REAL ESTATE FOR PERSONNEL AND THREE LEGAL. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN

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