IT WORKS HERE. ROLL CALL. [I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER] [00:00:12] THREE. FOUR. FIVE. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL. MEMBER. FRIDLEY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. MAYOR PRO TEM. CUMMINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. PROVISIONAL MAYOR. CUMMINGS. GOT IT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER AND COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN ROGERS IS HERE. PROVISIONAL MAYOR. CUMMINGS, WE HAVE A QUORUM. AND FOR THE RECORD, THE MAYOR IS OUT OF TOWN WITH HER FAMILY. WHERE? FOR HER DAUGHTER'S SOFTBALL GAME. OKAY, TOURNAMENT. EXCUSE ME. FIRST, OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS GOING TO BE COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FY 26 PROPOSED [III.1. Council Discussion and Possible Action on FY 2026 Proposed Budget] BUDGET. OKAY. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE OPEN THE. OPEN THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FY 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET. EXCUSE ME. THAT MOTION FOR THE. MICROPHONE, PLEASE. JOSH, JUST NEED A SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY. ANY OPPOSED? ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I'LL START THE DISCUSSION. COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. I WILL START THE DISCUSSION BY ASKING OUR STAFF TO PRESENT SOME INFORMATION THAT'S GERMANE TO THE BUDGET PASSING ON THIS DAY. WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PRESIDING CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER TALK TO US ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN TERMS OF STATE LAW AND THE CHARTER SURROUNDING PASSING A BUDGET IN A TIMELY MANNER. COUNCILMAN. SO JUST TO DISCUSS WHAT MAY HAPPEN IF WE DON'T PASS IT TODAY. I HAVE RECEIVED A MEMORANDUM FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. I INCLUDED WITH MY CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. BUT IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT MAYBE MY MANAGER'S REPORT. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. I CAN HEAR THE ECHO, BUT MAYBE EVERYONE CAN. IT MAY HAVE COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT MAYBE EVERYONE DIDN'T GET MY MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT IN IT IS A MEMORANDUM, WHICH I'LL CITE. THERE IS GEORGIA LAW THAT MANDATES THAT EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT MUST ADOPT A BALANCED BUDGET ANNUALLY ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET FOR ALL FUNDS SUBJECT TO THE BUDGET ORDINANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THAT LITERALLY WOULD MAKE THAT TODAY. WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE MIDNIGHT. AND THERE IS SOME TIME THAT STAFF WOULD NEED TO DO IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED THAT STAFF WOULD NEED TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. AND THAT IS ESTIMATED TO BE ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 3 HOURS. SO ROUGHLY AROUND 9:00, WE WOULD REALLY RUN INTO SOME DEADLINE ISSUES IF WE DO NOT PASS A BUDGET THIS EVENING. THAT COULD ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER EFFECTS. CERTAINLY COULD PUT US IN IN, IN POOR STANDING WITH THE STATE. SINCE THIS IS A STATE LAW THAT COULD AFFECT OUR STATE FUNDING OR FUNDS THAT ARE SURROUNDED OR SUPPORTED BY STATE FUNDS. THAT COULD INCLUDE LOST FUNDS, TIF FUNDS, MOST FUNDS AND HOTEL MOTEL FUNDS, SINCE ALL OF THOSE INVOLVE THE STATE, EITHER ISSUING THOSE REVENUES TO THE CITY. THERE'S SOME OPERATIONAL ISSUES THAT THAT COULD ALSO AFFECT. COUNCIL HAD SUPPORTED AND VOTED TO APPROVE THE COMPENSATION STUDY WITH ALICIA ALSO DOING SOME I'M I'M LOSING THE WORD, BUT [00:05:08] THE GOING BACK AND RETRO. EXCUSE ME. THOSE FUNDS ANYTHING GOING BEYOND JULY 1ST, WE THROW ALL THOSE CALCULATIONS OFF. AND IF YOU RECALL, THERE WERE SEVERAL WEEKS THAT IT TOOK TO FOR STAFF TO GET THOSE CALCULATIONS DOWN. AND GOING BACK BEYOND OR BEYOND THE JULY 1ST DATE WITH WITHDRAW ALL THOSE NUMBERS OUT AND REQUIRE ONE, IT WOULD BE MORE COSTLY, BUT THEN ALSO REQUIRE EVERYTHING TO BE RECALCULATED, WHICH WOULD TAKE WEEKS TO DO AS WE HAD ALREADY EXPERIENCED. THE OTHER IMPLICATIONS IS THAT THIS WOULD TURN INTO A POTENTIAL FINDING IN OUR AUDITS, WHICH WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, WHICH, FRANKLY, COULD AFFECT OUR BOND RATING NEGATIVELY. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, OF DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS BY NOT PASSING THE BUDGET TONIGHT THAT JUST THE FACT OF NOT PASSING IT, NOT THE NOTWITHSTANDING ANY DEBATES OR WHATEVER MIGHT COME FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT COULD HAVE SOME ILL EFFECTS ON THE CITY'S OPERATIONS AS WELL AS HIS STANDING. SO IF I MAY SUMMARIZE BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAID, THAT IF WE DON'T PASS THE BUDGET TONIGHT, ONE, WE MAY BE PENALIZED WITH OUR TAX ALLOWED, OUR STATE ALLOWED TAXES LIKE THE SPLOST AND THE MOST TWO, IF WE DON'T PASS THE BUDGET TONIGHT, WE CAN HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OUR BOND RATING AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DO PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE BONDS, I.E. THE RECREATIONAL CENTER. THE RENOVATION OF THE AUDITORIUM AND OTHER THINGS. THREE. THE. SO WE'RE SAYING THE STATE LAW. IT WILL PUT US IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION WITH THE STATE. IT CAN AFFECT OUR BOND ISSUANCE. I THINK YOU ALSO SAID THAT IN ORDER FOR US. TO HAVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE NEED TO FINISH WITH THIS PROCEDURE BY 9:00. DID I MISS ANYTHING ELSE? THAT IS CORRECT. THERE WAS SOMETHING ALSO THAT I MISSED, WHICH WAS THE ORDINANCE. THE CITY ORDINANCE WILL REQUIRE US IF WE DON'T PASS OUR OUR ANNUAL BUDGET TONIGHT TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF MONTHLY BUDGET APPROVALS. ON ITS FACE, THAT MIGHT SOUND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ONEROUS, BUT THE THERE ARE IMPLEMENTATION IMPLICATIONS BECAUSE REVENUES AREN'T PROVIDED TO US. AND ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS, THEY ACTUALLY COME IN IN LARGE GROUPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND TRICKLES DOWN IN EVERY, EVERY MONTH. SO THERE'S A LITTLE COMEDOWN, BUT THERE'S BIG ALLOTMENTS THAT BASICALLY WE PLAN FOR. AND WE, WE, WE GO THROUGH OUR LEAN MONTHS WAITING FOR THOSE BIG, BIG REVENUE DEPOSITS. IF WE GO BY A MONTH, A MONTH, WE LITERALLY WOULD HAVE CASH FLOW ISSUES THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO EITHER GO INTO OUR RESERVES, OR IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF BRIDGE LOAN OUT TO JUST MAKE PAYROLL. SO THOSE THOSE CASH FLOW ISSUES WOULD ALSO BE ACCOMPANIED WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. WITH THE CHAIR'S PERMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. GOLDMAN GOLDEN. A QUESTION ABOUT OUR BUDGET MEETINGS. HOW MANY HAVE WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET? AND WHEN DID WE START TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET? WE HAD FOUR PUBLIC MEETINGS. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THE BUDGET. ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10 TO 12. 10 TO 12. 41. I'M SORRY, SIR, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I. HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND IT WAS 41, CONSIDERING ALL OF THE MEETINGS BOTH STAFF AND PUBLIC AND COUNCIL WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO WE'VE WE'VE I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. SO THERE HAVE BEEN 41 MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET SINCE APRIL, INCLUDING. IN. THOSE WERE FOUR PUBLIC MEETINGS, BOTH IN PERSON AND BY ZOOM. AND YOU MET WITH COUNCIL PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY. AND WE'VE HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. CORRECT. AND WE'VE HAD THIS AND WORK SESSION AND COUNCIL MEETINGS. [00:10:06] SO ALL OF THAT TOTALS UP TO 41 MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET FOR THE CITY MANAGER. YES. SO I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING TO MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES, I UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE TAX DOLLARS THAT WE COLLECT. MY ONLY POINT IS TO IMPLORE THAT WE COME TO SOME SOLUTION BEFORE 9:00, IN ORDER THAT WE CAN CONTINUE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE STATE AND THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD. BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS THIS COUNCIL BECOMES A REFLECTION OF THE EARNESTINE PITMAN DAYS, WHEN WE WERE ON TV AND PEOPLE WERE LAUGHING AT EASTPOINTE AND IT WAS SUCH A BAD BRAND. WE HAVE A CHANCE TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO THAT. SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON FOR THESE QUESTIONS, THAT WE COME TO SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION AND WE PASS A BUDGET. OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE TWO HOURS AND 15 MINUTES TO COME TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS BUDGET PASSED. SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. MADAM PROVISIONAL MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION OF STAFF, MR. GOLDEN, PERHAPS, IF YOU COULD. I'M LOOKING FOR AND I GET MIXED UP IN MY BUDGET BOOK. THERE WAS A SUMMARY SHEET OF ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTAL, DEPARTMENTAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. DO YOU KNOW WHAT PAGE THAT IS ON IN THE BUDGET? AND CAN YOU GO OVER THOSE, PLEASE, FOR EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS? I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN A PRESENTATION. YEAH. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ALSO IN OUR BUDGET. I THOUGHT, I'VE SEEN IT. AND WE DO HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN THE BUDGET. OKAY. IF YOU COULD REVIEW THOSE THINGS FOR ME, PLEASE. SURE. SO IN OUR ORDINANCE FOR FY 26 PROPOSED BUDGET WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE GENERAL FUND OF 70,000,005 059 15 FOR THE COMPLICATED ASSET FUND, 255,000 FOR THE E911 FUND. 01,000,780 $111 FOR THE POLICE. RED ZONE, $15,000. MOTEL. HOTEL. HOTEL. MOTEL TAX, 5,000,608 50. WORST PROPERTIES 372,000. WATER AND SEWER IS 37,032,620. ELECTRIC FUND 56,000,318 830. AND STORMWATER? 03,000,007 19 537. AND WITH OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT WE'RE LOOKING AT 5,279,500. I MEAN, 511. I'M SORRY. WITH OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT $41,474,684. OUR CORRIDOR OF ABOUT 1,540,000. OUR SPLASH FUND IS 13,200,000. CITY HALL DEBT FUND 933,001 75. GENERAL GRANTS, WHICH IS OUR POLICE GRANTS OF 212,492. AND OUR RESTRICTED GRANTS OF 8,000,008 53 576. A GRAND TOTAL OF $247,100,451. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING MORE SPECIFICALLY. I THINK IT'S PART OF THE GENERAL FUND, THE DEPARTMENTAL TOTALS. I THINK THAT THIS IS IN AGGREGATE, CORRECT. THIS IS AN AGGREGATE. CORRECT? YES. THE DEPARTMENTAL TOTALS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT HERE. [00:16:29] ALRIGHT FOR THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE A TOTAL FOR CITY COUNCIL. CITY CLERK OF 2.3 MILLION. EXECUTIVE INCLUDES THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, COMMUNICATION, LEGAL AND EQUITY AND INCLUSION. THAT IS 6.6 MILLION. WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT INCLUDES FINANCE, ACCOUNTING, PURCHASING, TAX, AIR BILLING, AND GROUNDS AND FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS. THAT TOTAL IS $14,723,890. OUR JUDICIAL, WHICH IS OUR MUNICIPAL COURT. 1.4 MILLION. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS 22,000,022 115. FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 13,000,456. 534 PUBLIC WORKS OF 2 MILLION. 945 559. PARKS AND REC. 3,478,008. AND WE'RE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE 2,001,903 AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF 1 MILLION. 01,000,001 58. 920. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WITH THIS IN TERMS OF REVENUES, I THINK THAT I ALSO SAW THE SLIDE ON REVENUES. OUR LARGEST BUCKET OF REVENUES ARE TAXES. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT I RECALL IN ONE OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, CITY MANAGER JONES HAD MENTIONED THAT WE HAD ADDRESSED SOME OF THE, I GUESS, IMPLICATIONS AROUND HOUSE BILL 581, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR OR SEE ANYTHING IN SPECIFIC, SPECIFICALLY IN THE BUDGET AROUND THAT. SO HOW ARE WE MITIGATING SOME OF THAT? AND SO JUST FOR THE THE CITIZENS HOUSE BILL 581 IS A BILL THAT WE OPT TO NOT OPT OUT OF, WHICH MEANS THAT WE DECIDED TO GIVE RELIEF TO HOMEOWNERS IN THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. AND SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'LL COLLECT FEWER DOLLARS. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO HOW THEN DO WE PLAN TO MITIGATE ANY OF THAT DOWNTURN FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES. SPECIFICALLY, SINCE PROPERTY TAX IS THE LARGEST, I BELIEVE, BUCKET OF REVENUE. SO WITH THE 581, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED. SO WHEN WE FORECASTED IT, IT WAS BASED OFF OF A PRIOR YEAR'S ASSESSMENT AS WELL AS WHAT WE PROPOSED TO GET. WHAT WE PROPOSED TO GET AT THE 13 MILLS STILL WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE GOT LAST YEAR. FORECASTED. SO RIGHT NOW IS NOT PROJECTED TO BE A LOSS OR BUT IT IS A REDUCTION OF REVENUES FROM, SAY MARKET VALUES. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE 581. WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? THAT NUMBER? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME AT THIS, AT THIS MOMENT. BUT WE ESTIMATED IT WAS IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ABOUT 27 MILLION IN A REDUCTION. NO. 27 MILLION. TOTAL REVENUE THAT WE SHOULD RECEIVE. YEAH. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE DELTA. WHAT IS THE DELTA IS. IT WAS ABOUT A MILLION OR SO. IT WAS. IT WASN'T. IT WASN'T THAT PROFOUND A DIFFERENCE? OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE WERE NO REAL REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE UP FOR THAT MILLION DOLLARS? [00:20:01] NO. NO, NO. ENHANCEMENTS? NO. OKAY. WERE THERE ANY AREAS WHERE THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT COST? YEAR OVER YEAR, PARTICULARLY FOR NON-ESSENTIAL SPENDING AND WHAT WE WERE DOING FOR THIS YEAR? WELL, WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE MET WITH DEPARTMENTS, THEY IDENTIFIED THOSE EXPENDITURES THAT WERE WERE IRRELEVANT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE DIDN'T PINPOINT ANY OTHER EXPENDITURES THAT WE FOUND TO BE NOT REASONABLE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. LET'S SEE. SO WAS THERE A MOTION FOR THE BUDGET? DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF MOTION FOR THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME? IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A MOTION PROVISIONAL CHAIR, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAIVER OF THE FIRST READ. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I SEE ONE MORE LIGHT ON AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. AND MAYBE I'LL ASK. SO BEFORE WE DO THE WAIVER OF THE FIRST READ, MADAM ATTORNEY I DID WANT TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT FROM MY SPECIFIC BUDGET. IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT. BUT AS I STATED IN THE VERY BEGINNING, MY FOCUS PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF 581 AND IN TERMS OF OFFERING RELIEF TO PROPERTY OWNERS IN TERMS OF THEIR TAXES. ALSO WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON WITH THAT BIG BILL, AND THERE COULD BE SEVERE CUTS IN SOME OF MEDICAID OR OTHER BENEFITS THAT MANY OF OUR CITIZENS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. AND THEN PERHAPS SOME, SOME GRANTS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT RECEIVE THIS YEAR. SO I WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON REVENUE ENHANCEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, MR. GOLDEN, AND ALSO LOOKING AT ANY NONESSENTIAL SPENDING. WHAT I DID FIND, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 194 OF OUR BUDGET BOOK. THAT'S THE WARD. BE AT LARGE. BUDGET. AND I SEE THAT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE MONEY THERE IF IT COULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. THAT'S LINE ITEM 100 DASH 1115512.21. DASH 001. THAT IS GOING TO BE GROUP INSURANCE. AND I DON'T TAKE GROUP INSURANCE FROM THE CITY. SO THAT'S A SMALL AMOUNT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT. WE MOVE THIS OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS TO USE IN SOME OF THE CITY FACILITIES. I KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS WRITTEN IN SOME OF HIS WEEKLY UPDATES THAT THERE'S SOME ISSUES, EVEN WITH THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE SITTING IN. SO HOWEVER, WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THOSE DOLLARS AND REPROGRAM THOSE SO THAT MOTION CAN BE CONSIDERED AFTER A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READ. OKAY. AND IT WOULD BE YOU CAN AMEND THE BUDGET WITH YOUR INITIAL MOTION AFTER THE MOTION FOR FIRST READ. IF THAT PASSES, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN THE PROVISIONAL CHAIR CAN THEN CALL FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AMENDMENT IN CONNECTION WITH ADOPTING THE BUDGET. SO IT WILL BE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE BUDGET WITH THIS ONE AMENDMENT. NOW, THERE MAY BE OTHER AMENDMENTS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THEM AS THEY COME. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. ONE AT A TIME. SURE. SO, MADAM CHAIR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO WAIVE THE FIRST READ. SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. ALL IN FAVOR? WAIT. YOU GOTTA ASK ANY DISCUSSION, AND THEN IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TODAY? THE FIRST MEETING? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION HAVE IT. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOW ENTERTAIN THE MOTION ON THE BUDGET. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE AMEND THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT. I MOVE THAT WE REPROGRAM $8,225 FROM THE WARD. BE AT LARGE. ACCOUNT LINE. ITEM 100 DASH 1115512021. [00:25:01] GROUP INSURANCE TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPROVEMENT TO CITY FACILITIES. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DISCUSSION. I'M SORRY. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE. I'M SORRY. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IS THIS THE ONLY AMENDMENT TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, OR SHOULD WE HAVE THIS ALL AT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. ARE WE GOING TO DO IT ONE AT A TIME OR JUST. YEAH. YES. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE ONE AT A TIME. ESPECIALLY IF SOME ARE ACCEPTED BY THE MAJORITY. SOME MAY NOT BE. SO YOU NEED TO VOTE ON IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS. YOU NEED TO VOTE ON THEM INDIVIDUALLY. SO THE FIRST AMENDMENT I'VE HEARD WAS THIS MOVEMENT OF MONEY FROM WARD B GROUP INSURANCE TO ANOTHER LINE ITEM. THANK YOU. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CLEAR ON THE PROCEDURE. SO DO WE TAKE ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS YOU SAID IN THE A DO A VOTE, A MOTION AND A VOTE ON THAT. INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN COME BACK AND APPROVE THE BUDGET FROM THERE BASED ON ALL THOSE. SO IT CAN HAPPEN ONE OF TWO WAYS. OKAY. YOU CAN TAKE EACH AMENDMENT SEPARATELY. AND THEN ONCE ALL THE AMENDMENTS, IF THEY'RE MORE RIGHT, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY IF ALL ONCE ALL THE AMENDMENTS ARE CONSIDERED, THE ONES THAT ARE ACCEPTED BY MAJORITY VOTE, THEN YOU DO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET WITH ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT GOT APPROVED BY MAJORITY. THAT'S OPTION A. OPTION B IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. RIGHT. SO, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER. SORRY, COUNCILMAN ATKINS COULD HAVE SAID I MOVED TO ADOPT THE BUDGET WITH THE AMENDMENT OF MOVING TO THE TO THE WHATEVER RIGHT TO PUBLIC WORKS. AND IF THAT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A SECOND AND A MAJORITY VOTE, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR BUDGET, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS, SO I DON'T. OKAY. I'M NOT MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST SAYING IF THEY'RE MORE LET'S TAKE THEM NOW. OKAY. AFTER YOU GET A VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT. OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ON COUNCILMAN ATKINS AMENDMENT. OKAY. SO, COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS, ARE YOU WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW? ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS? OKAY. I NEED TO GET MY LAPTOP. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KIND OF, I THINK THAT'S SORT OF BEEN JUST SORT OF UP IN THE AIR IS I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT COUNCIL SPENDING AND BUDGET AMOUNTS. I THINK THE COUNCIL BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR COUNCIL SPENDING TOTALS ROUGHLY ABOUT, I THINK WE SEE $943,000. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THIS MONEY, YOUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS, OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I THINK IF WE CAN AT ALL POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, TRY AND TRIM SOME OF THE FAT OFF OF THE COUNCIL BUDGET SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT I KNOW PEOPLE THERE ARE A LOT OF STATEMENTS MADE ABOUT SO MANY ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WHAT SOME PEOPLE MAY OR MAY NOT CONSIDER, WASTEFUL THINGS WITH THE MONEY. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, LIKE I SAID, THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT. SO I DID COME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS. AND I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE NOW TO MAKE THESE, TO JUST DISCUSS IT, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BUDGET IS $943,000. IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN CHANGE OR THAT WE CAN SHAVE OFF AND REDIRECT THOSE FUNDS TO POSSIBLY ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, OR JUST SEND IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND HE CAN MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHAT HE LIKE, WHERE HE THINK THOSE FUNDS MAY BETTER BE SERVED. I'M IN THE CITY. I'M OPEN TO DOING THAT. SO IF MY BUT THOSE OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE THE I DON'T KNOW I HAVE A SPREADSHEET THAT'S HERE AND DO YOU MIND IF YOU COULD TAKE THIS? [00:30:01] IS IT BEST THAT I SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU, OR CAN YOU JUST PULL IT UP FROM THIS COMPUTER HERE? IF Y'ALL WILL BEAR WITH ME FOR ONE SECOND, PLEASE. DO YOU NEED YOUR CELL PHONE? I HAVE A QUESTION. I DO. YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. ARE THERE ANY DEPARTMENTS IN FINANCIAL NEED? I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN. ARE THERE ANY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN FINANCIAL NEED? WHEN YOU SAY FINANCIAL NEED THAT ARE FALLING SHORT OF PROVIDING SERVICES. NO, NO, BECAUSE THOSE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS BUDGETED FOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR OPERATIONS. SO THEY BUDGETED FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THEY NEED. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THOUGH THERE MAY NOT BE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE. I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BUDGETED THOSE AMOUNTS. I STILL THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE'VE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE ITEMS IN MIND, IF NOT I, THERE'S SOME THERE'S AN AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO MY BUDGET. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, AND THOSE FUNDS CAN BE THEY CAN BE DIRECTED OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND LIKE I SAID, HE CAN WHATEVER OR JUST PUT IT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. SO LET'S SEE HERE. OKAY. IT'S. PARDON ALL THE BRIGHT COLORS, BUT I'M A COLOR GIRL, SO WE JUST SORT OF. IF WE CAN JUST IF YOU ALL JUST BEAR WITH US FOR ONE SECOND. [00:35:34] SO WHAT I DID WAS, LIKE I STATED EARLIER, COUNCIL SPENDING. OUR OUR SPENDING TOTALS $943,000. AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THESE TAX DOLLARS. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST KIND OF CAME UP WITH I LISTED ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, AND I JUST WANTED FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO SEE IF WE CAN LOOK AT SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO TRIM SOME OF THE FAT OFF OF THE BUDGET. THERE'S SOME THAT IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, IT'S OKAY. BUT I JUST KNOW. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF. NUMBER ONE, I KNOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT THEY USE TO BUDGET FOR THEIR THINGS, FOR THEIR DIFFERENT INCENTIVES OR INITIATIVES THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE CITY. SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS THEY HAVE WE HAVE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT ARE COUNCIL EVENTS. AND THERE ARE ALSO CERTAIN ITEMS THAT ARE INDIVIDUAL EVENTS. AND LET ME LET ME SAY THIS, I KNOW EVERYBODY. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IS WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. I THINK THAT WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN IS AN EXCELLENT I THINK IT'S A IT'S A VERY GOOD EVENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. I WILL GIVE HER CREDIT. SHE HAS DEFINITELY PUT THE CITY ON THE MAP. BUT ONE THING I WILL SAY IS, I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE DO NEED A REBOOT ON SOME THINGS. I WAS ACTUALLY IN THE DRUGSTORE LAST WEEK, AND THERE WAS A RESIDENT THAT ASKED ME I WAS GETTING A SIGN MADE FOR SOME FOR A MOVIE THAT WE'RE FEATURING OVER AT SYKES PARK, AND SHE ASKED ME ABOUT WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A JUNE CONCERT, AND SHE SAID THAT SHE AND HER MOTHER HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE FOR 35 YEARS. THEY THOROUGHLY, THOROUGHLY ENJOYED WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN AND SHE ASKED ME, WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE A JUNE CONCERT? I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR. I EXPLAINED TO HER THAT THE THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN EVENT, THERE'S A BUDGETED AMOUNT THAT THAT THERE IS THERE'S A SPECIFIC BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN EVEN THOUGH THAT BUDGET IT SPANS HER THOSE EVENTS. THEY SPAN ACROSS TWO OF THE BUDGET CYCLES, JULY AND AUGUST OF ONE YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR, MAY AND JUNE. SO WHEN THE CONCERT WAS HAD, THEY DID IN AUGUST OF JULY AND AUGUST. AND THEN THERE WAS A MAY CONCERT. THE CONCERT WE DIDN'T HAVE A JUNE CONCERT. COUNCIL DID NOT CANCEL THE WEDNESDAY WINDOW FOR JUNE BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH FUNDS TO PUT ON THE CONCERT THAT THEY WANTED, THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE. WE JUST DECIDED NOT. THEY JUST DECIDED NOT TO HAVE THE EVENT. I EXPLAINED THAT TO THE RESIDENT. SHE WAS OKAY WITH THAT, SHE SAID, BECAUSE HER THOUGHT WAS THAT THE CONCERT, THAT WE CANCELED THE CONCERT, WE DID NOT CANCEL THE EVENT. IT WAS JUST THAT IT FELL SHORT OF THE BUDGET. SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOOD WITH BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY. THE DECISION WAS MADE NOT TO HAVE THE CONCERT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DID SAY THAT I DO THINK I FEEL PERSONALLY THAT THERE SHOULD BE A REBOOT ON SOME OF THE THINGS, SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETTER BECAUSE THERE ARE ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IS I LOOK AT IT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE A TON OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN, THEY COME TO THE CITY. PARKING IS AN ISSUE. WHETHER PEOPLE KNOW IT, WHETHER PEOPLE WANT TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT. SO ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL, ON THE BACKSIDE IS THE FROG HOLLOW COMMUNITY. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS IF THERE'S IF SOMEONE HAS A HOUSE FIRE OR A BEE, GO INTO CARDIAC ARREST OR SOMETHING, YOU CAN'T GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES DOWN THE STREET. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE THAT THE CITY, NOT ONLY THAT WE'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE MONEY FOR THIS EVENT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS, THAT THE RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE FOR THIS CONCERT, THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE. ALSO, IT IS A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS EVENT, AND YOU ALREADY KNOW WHEN 2 OR 3 PEOPLE START RUNNING, EVERYBODY STARTS TO RUN. AND THOUGH WE HAD A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS THERE THAT WERE HIRED OFFICERS AS WELL, WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE WHEN THEY COME TO THESE EVENTS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I SAID, I THINK WE STILL WE NEED A REBOOT. I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THING. I'M FOR US HAVING WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH REGARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE WHEN THEY COME TO THIS EVENT, THAT WE DON'T INCONVENIENCE THE RESIDENTS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, AND THAT WE ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS EVENT. SO JUST MOVING IT JUST SO THAT PEOPLE WILL KNOW AND UNDERSTAND. AT LEAST MY, MY TAKE ON ON THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. [00:40:03] BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES, SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. AND I'VE COME UP WITH A LIST OF THINGS AND I HAVE FORWARDED MY MY CONCERNS AND MY SUGGESTIONS TO THE COORDINATOR OF THE EVENT, THE POLICE CHIEF, THE FIRE CHIEF, AND OUR CITY MANAGER. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. I'M TRYING THE OTHER EVENTS. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. I THINK THE BEST PERSON CAN SPEAK TO THE WEDNESDAY WINDOW IS ME. OKAY. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS CONCERT FOR SINCE 2018. AND SINCE 2018, THERE HAS BEEN NO INCIDENTS. NO INCIDENTS? IT IS VERY WELL SECURED. IT IS VERY WELL SAFE. SO FOR EIGHT YEARS THERE HAS BEEN NO INCIDENT. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THAT OUT AS IF AN INCIDENT COULD HAPPEN OR POTENTIALLY HAPPEN. BECAUSE THERE ARE THERE ARE MEETINGS, BRIEF MEETINGS, SECURITY BRIEF MEETINGS BEFORE WE EVEN HAVE THE CONCERT WITH THE POLICE AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED FOR SAFETY REASONS. SECONDLY, THE CITY HAS WENT OUT, ESPECIALLY PARKS AND RECREATION PUBLIC WORKS AND PUT THINGS FOR PEOPLE NOT TO PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WHERE THEY CANNOT PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. THE CITY HAS DONE THAT. AND AND THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO US SEVERAL TIMES. AND THE CITY CONTINUES TO GO OUT AND TELL PEOPLE, PUT THE YELLOW TAPE UP, NOT TO PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. SO BUT BUT SOMEHOW I KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE ITEM. AND I KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A TOPIC BECAUSE IT ALREADY HAS BEEN. BUT THE CITY HAS. 4TH OF JULY BRINGS OUT THE SAME CROWD, BUT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. AND THE CITY HAS HAD OTHER EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE, AND THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. SO WE'LL SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT FOR US CUTTING THE BUDGET. BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND, WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN COMES FROM HOTEL MOTEL MONEY. AND WE ALSO GET SPONSORSHIPS. SO WE HAVE A SPONSORSHIP PACKAGE THAT WE GET SPONSORSHIPS FROM. SO IT'S NOT YOUR TAX DOLLARS. IT'S NOT THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S ACTUALLY HOTEL MOTEL MONEY. THAT UNRESTRICTED PORTION OF THE 3% THAT WAS VOTED ON. AND THAT WAS THE NOTE IN THE BUDGET UNTIL FOR SOME REASON, IT IT WAS SOMEBODY MADE THE CITY MANAGER CHANGE IT AND AND BUT THE FOOTNOTE IS STILL THERE AS TO WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM, WHICH IS HOTEL MOTEL MONEY. BUT WE'LL SEE. I YIELD. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. AND. I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN UGLY. THE ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK SOMETIMES YOU DO NEED A REBOOT. AND IF THERE'S SOME THINGS. I MEAN, BECAUSE THE EVENT HAS GROWN. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING FROM IT. ANYTHING FROM YOU? THE EVENT IS GROWN. AND THEN SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING PUTTING OUT THE BEST PRODUCT. THAT'S ALL THAT I'M SAYING. SO I DON'T NEED I DON'T I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE OFFENSE TO IT, BUT JUST MOVING ON. AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT UP ON TOP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERN FOR A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TODAY. STILL MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. STILL MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE ALL THE EVENTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE. DIFFERENT COLOR HIGHLIGHTS. SO THOSE THAT ARE COUNCIL ITEMS, THOSE THAT, THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO PARTICULAR ARE MEMBERS. ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS FOR A OPERATING OR A COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. WHAT IS THE FOR INITIATIVES? THE WORD THAT I'M THINKING. WE NOT YOU NOT TALK ABOUT JUST FOR INITIATIVES OR JUST DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT COUNCIL THAT MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO DO. I CAN'T THINK OF IT. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE INITIATIVE. BUT INITIATIVE ITEMS, THOSE INITIATIVE ITEMS CAN BE ANYTHING FOR ME. I, I HAVE THE SCREEN ON THE GREEN WHICH IS TAKING PLACE AT SYKES PARK, OUR SENIOR STROLL, THE THREE ON THREE BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE. AND I THINK WHAT WOULD BE JUST A SUGGESTION IS THAT IF ALL MEMBERS ON COUNCIL HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY TO TO TO PUT ON ANY TYPE OF INITIATIVES THAT THAT PARTICULAR DOLLAR AMOUNT. LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN USE IT IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO, AND IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY AS WELL. BUT I THINK JUST SO THAT WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING FAIR AND ACROSS THE BOARD. I THINK THAT IT KIND OF IT'LL CUT AWAY WHERE SO PEOPLE MAY. SO NO ONE HAS ANY MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON. AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE THESE EVENTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE. [00:45:03] MY SUGGESTED AMOUNT WAS I SUGGESTED THAT EACH MEMBER ON COUNCIL HAVE IT START OFF WITH $20,000, AND THAT MONEY IS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH EIGHT COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT'S $160,000. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT $160,000 MINUS OUT FROM THE THE $943,000 BUDGET. AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE WE GO AS A START. SO I HAD THOSE ADJUSTED AMOUNTS THAT ARE HERE. SO FOR MY UNDERMINE THERE TWO THERE ARE THREE ITEMS. THE BLANKETS AND BASKETS, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT THAT I'D HAD THEM TO, TO PULL OUT OF THE BUDGET, BUT IT WAS STILL IN THERE. BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. AND THE SENIOR STROLL AND THE BASKETBALL. SO THE THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT I HAVE THAT'S IN THIS $943,000 WAS $45,000. I AM WILLING TO FORGO THAT. AND I KNOW THE THING IS, WE WANT TO KEEP THIS, THIS BUDGET AT THE 943 BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS THAT MORE WORK IF YOU START TO MOVE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. WE CAN JUST REALLOCATE IT WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. SO THE THING IS, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO RAISE IT OR LOWER IT, THE FUNDS ARE JUST REALLOCATED. CORRECT. SO FOR ME, I WOULD JUST JUST HAVE THAT PORTION OF MY MONEY, THE $45,000 TO GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND I THINK IF WE KEEP ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THE $20,000 FOR CERTAIN EVENTS AND THEN SOME THINGS WILL GO OVER TO THE SOME THINGS WOULD GO OVER, I WILL JUST SAY FOR RIGHT NOW INTO THE OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER'S ACCOUNT, WE'LL JUST SAY A CITY MANAGER ACCOUNT OR, I'M SORRY, INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THE GENERAL FUND WILL BE FINE. SO IF THOSE FUNDS GO BACK IN THERE. BUT IF ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS STARTED OFF AT $20,000. SO IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE HERE. PERHAPS THEY CAN GO. AND MAYBE NOT ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT STILL MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL STILL WORK ON SPECIFICALLY. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK I'M LOOKING MORE SO AT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, SHE HAS THREE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE. I THINK THAT TOTAL ABOUT $65,000. SO IF WE COULD TAKE THOSE AND WE GO TO OKAY. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAD 41 MEETINGS AGO. LIKE, I MEAN, YOU HAVE MY PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE HERE FOR A SPECIAL CALL MEETING FOR A BUDGET THAT WE'VE HAD 41 MEETINGS ABOUT. AND YOU ALL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS. JUST TELL WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO PASS THIS BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN ALL GO HOME AND WE DEAL WITH WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH, IT. BUT TO SIT HERE TONIGHT, PUT PEOPLE'S COUNCIL BUDGET OUT HERE AND THEN WE TRY TO SHIFT THROUGH. OH, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OUT. OH I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS BACK. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE 41 MEETINGS AGO. AND THAT'S JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER. I'M HERE AT THE 11TH HOUR TRYING TO PASS THE BUDGET BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT TO PASS THE BUDGET. SO SINCE YOU HAVE MY COUNCIL BUDGET UP HERE, AUTISM AWARENESS, THAT IS AN EVENT THAT I ROLLED OUT THIS YEAR BECAUSE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I MET QUITE A FEW FAMILIES IN WARD D, AND THEY HAD NO PLACE THAT THEIR CHILDREN COULD GO AND HAVE SAFE SPACES AND ENJOY AUTISM OR SPECIAL NEEDS AWARENESS RELATED EVENTS. I PARTNER WITH PARKS AND REC FOR THIS EVENT. I ALSO HAVE ADVOCATED HEAVILY FOR THE MIRACLE LEAGUE TO COME INTO THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, AND NOW WE'RE A MIRACLE LEAGUE CITY WHERE WE HAVE THOSE GAMES AND SPECIAL EVENTS FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES. MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO MY OTHER EVENT RIGHT HERE, THE WARD COMMUNITY MEETINGS. I HAVE QUARTERLY MEETINGS. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE FREE SPACES WITHIN WARD D TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS. SO I HAVE BEEN GOING TO RENT HOTELS, I HAVE RENTED EVENT CENTERS AND ALL OF THESE ARE IN WARD D, SO I'M PUTTING THE MONEY BACK INTO WARD D AND MOST OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE 55 AND PLUS, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE DOWNTOWN EASTPOINTE TO ATTEND A MEETING. THOSE MEETINGS HAVE HAPPENED ALL YEAR. I DID THE QUARTERLY COMMUNITY GATHERINGS LAST YEAR, EVERY QUARTER, EVERY QUARTER. AND IT'S A NICE TURNOUT. IT IS. SO THEY APPRECIATE THOSE WARD D COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BUT DUE TO THE LACK OF SPACE IN WARD D, I AM LEFT HAVING TO RENT A SPACE FOR US TO GATHER. AND THEN THE WARD GETS LITTER INITIATIVE. LITTER IS AN ISSUE IN WARD D, WHICH I HAVE SENT COUNTLESS EMAILS TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND THEY HAVE GONE UNHEARD. I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY NON-PROFITS IN THE IN THE AREA. I HAVE ALSO BEEN CONTACTED BY VOLUNTEERS. THAT INITIATIVE IS A WEEKLY CLEAN UP OF WARD D. [00:50:05] EVERY WEEK PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT IN WHICH THE CITY SHOULD BE DOING IT, BUT WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE AN ACCURATE LITTER PICKUP SCHEDULE. BUT SINCE THE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMING TAGS IN GEORGIA, WE DESERVE A CLEAN PLACE TO GO AND SHOP WITHOUT LITTER. I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR LITTER PICKUP IN WARD D, AND SO WHAT I HAVE DONE WAS PARTNER WITH GEORGIA WORKS, PROJECT, SOY CLEANING AND RESIDENTS AND WARD D TO GO AND JUST CLEAN UP OUR OWN COMMUNITIES UNTIL WE CAN GET A HANDLE ON THE LITTER PICK UP IN WARD D. BUT MOVING BACK, HERE WE ARE. YOU KNOW THAT WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN IS A SORE SPOT BECAUSE MOST OF YOU ALL CAMPAIGNED ON THE CANCELLATION OF WEDNESDAY. WIND DOWN. JUST CHECK FACEBOOK. A LOT OF THEM DO A LOT OF A LOT OF THEM DO A LOT OF CAMPAIGNING ON FACEBOOK BUT WON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY GATHERING FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS. SO LET'S GET TO IT. BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SIT HERE AND PIECEMEAL A BUDGET. AND I DON'T EVEN FEEL COMFORTABLE DISCUSSING THIS BUDGET BECAUSE AS OF YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A MEETING THAT ALL OF US WEREN'T PRIVY TO ON WHERE STREET WITH WHERE A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES SHOWED UP TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET. YEAH. SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE WINNING, YOU'RE NOT. IF YOU ALL HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS BUDGET AND WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN, SOME OF YOU ALL CAMPAIGNED ON THIS BACK IN 2024. AS SOON AS REDMOND JONES WAS HIRED IN MARCH. YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE HAD MEETINGS WITH HIM AND YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID, WE DON'T WANT WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. HOW DO YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET? BUT WE'RE SITTING HERE HAVING A MEETING, GOING THROUGH A COUNCIL BUDGET, AND THIS SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE 41 MEETINGS AGO. LIKE, JUST COME ON. JUST COME ON, COME ON. YOU HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S CALLED A PRE-MEETING. YOU HAD A PRE-MEETING YESTERDAY. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT. IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THIS COUNCIL BUDGET AND HOW MUCH EVERYONE IS SPENDING. YOU HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY ON WHERE STREET PEOPLE CALLED. THEY SENT TEXT MESSAGES. SO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT AT THE PRE MEETING. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT. WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING GAMES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. ONE CORRECTION. THERE IS A WARD. A EVENT LITERATURE WORKSHOP IS UNDER MY NAME. THAT'S NOT MINE. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION. I THINK THAT'S THE WARD. A PERSON THAT'S NOT JUST TO BE ONE TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. YES. THANK YOU. SO LET'S NOT START THROWING ACCUSATIONS, ESPECIALLY ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNTRUE. ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW MY NAME'S BEEN THROWN OUT. COUNCIL MEMBER FREHLEY'S MEMBER NAME HAS BEEN THROWN OUT. AND ONCE I FIND OUT WHO IS SENDING OUT THESE ANONYMOUS LETTERS THAT ARE COMPLETELY FALSE. RIGHT? WHY? WHY IS THERE LAUGHTER? BECAUSE THIS THIS IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. WE ALL NEED TO TREAT EACH OTHER BETTER. WE CANNOT HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION. A POINT OF ORDER. NO, NO. POINT OF ORDER. OKAY. JUST FAIR POINT OF ORDER. HOLD ON. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. LIT. LIT. COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. YES. STATE THE RULE. SHE HAS TO REMAIN GERMANE TO WHAT WE'RE BEING. WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED? LIKE SHE IS DISCUSSING LETTERS BEING SENT OUT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET. I'M SORRY, BUT THE RULES REQUIRE YOU TO STATE THE RULE. WELL, WHAT? RULE SEVEN. ALL RIGHT, SO, MADAM PROVISIONAL CHAIR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A RULING ON RULE SEVEN AND COUNCIL MEMBER. DOCTOR ROGERS ASSESSMENT THAT ROUTE SEVEN APPLIES TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER IS STATING. SO IT'S UP TO ME TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION. YES, MA'AM. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY. SO THE STATEMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER, YOUR STATEMENT IS JUST IN RESPONSE TO IT, WAS IN RESPONSE TO WHAT COUNCILPERSON LATONYA MARTIN ROGERS HAS STATED ABOUT ME AND. [00:55:03] OKAY. WELL, OKAY. WELL, THE RULE LET'S PULL UP THE RULE SO YOU CAN ADDRESS THE POINT OF ORDER FIRST. OKAY. WELL, NOT A BACK AND FORTH IS NOT REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. RULE SEVEN IS WHAT SHE STATED. YOU PULL IT UP. NOW, YOU ALSO REMEMBER THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU GUYS AMENDED THESE RULES. SO THE MOST RECENT ONES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ON HERE. I DON'T THINK THIS ONE WAS. OKAY. I READ THAT RULE OR. SO RULE SEVEN IS WHAT YOU NEED TO MAKE A RULING ON WHETHER OR NOT COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER'S STATEMENTS VIOLATE THIS RULE SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED. SHOULD I PROCEED WITH. RESPECTS TO THE SUBJECT OF DEBATE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NO ONE MENTIONED HER NAME. OKAY. SO BECAUSE WE'RE IN A PUBLIC MEETING, WE NEED TO SPEAK OUT, AVOIDING PERSONAL COMMENTS DIRECT TO OTHER MEMBERS. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ME IN GENERAL. OH COME ON. COME ON LADIES. LADIES. COME ON. SO JUST COME ON LADIES. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S FINE. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. I KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS DID MAKE THE STATEMENTS THAT SHE MADE. AND THOUGH IT WAS, I DON'T THINK IT WAS DIRECTLY. WE ALL KNOW BECAUSE SHE DID. AND I GET THAT. BUT IF WE'RE GOING BY WHAT'S IN HERE, JUST THE BLACK AND WHITE. BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T ADDRESS BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T SAY YOUR NAME SPECIFICALLY. SHE DID MAKE REFERENCE TO A A MEETING ON WHERE STREET AND WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN. I'M SORRY. WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN. OKAY. SO BECAUSE. OKAY. JESUS CHRIST, LADY. WELL, THEN Y'ALL, YOU CAN STOP TALKING TOO. COME ON, YOU CAN ALSO ABIDE BY THE RULES, TOO. OKAY. SO. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, YOU CAN YOU CAN FINISH YOUR STATEMENT, BUT LET'S JUST MAKE IT JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT AND NOT. OKAY. OKAY. THERE IS A PARTICULAR PERSON ON COUNCIL WHO HAS MADE THESE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT A COUPLE OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE UP HERE, AND IT'S RIDICULOUS. WE WE THIS IS DIVIDING OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S THERE'S RANDOM ACCUSATIONS BEING MADE ABOUT ME AND ANOTHER PERSON ON COUNCIL, WHICH ARE NOT TRUE. THERE'S THIS. WE JUST HEARD A COUNCIL PERSON SAY THAT THERE WAS A MEETING HELD YESTERDAY. ON WHERE AVENUE. THAT IS NOT TRUE. SO WE NEED TO REMAIN FACTUAL ABOUT THIS BUDGET. WE CANNOT KEEP THROWING THESE RANDOM INSULTS OR RANDOM HORRIBLE THINGS THAT WE'RE SAYING ABOUT EACH OTHER. WE CANNOT CONTINUE LIKE THIS. WE HAVE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. AND THIS IS NOT IT. WHOEVER IS, WHOEVER IS, IS, IS DOING THESE THINGS TO TRY AND DIVIDE. OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY WRONG. VERY WRONG. NOBODY UP HERE IS TRYING TO CANCEL WEDNESDAY. WHINE DOWN NOBODY. AND FOR THAT TO BE THE THE THE PIVOTAL THING THAT THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AND THAT PEOPLE ARE LYING ABOUT IS EGREGIOUS. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON UP HERE WHO IS TRYING TO CANCEL IT LIKE, OH MY GOD, HERE'S THE BUDGET AMENDMENT DOCUMENT. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON WHO'S TRYING TO CANCEL IT. I HAVE NEVER TRIED TO ADVOCATE FOR IT TO BE CANCELED. NEVER. NEVER. AND YET PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT THAT'S THAT THAT'S THE CASE. THAT'S THAT'S SO DISGUSTING. OKAY, EVERYBODY KNOW IT. IT IS. TRY TO FIND SOMETHING WHERE I HAVE SAID THAT. NOBODY UP HERE IS TRYING TO CANCEL WEDNESDAY. WHY NOW? NOT A SINGLE PERSON. BUT WE DO HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT HAVE GOT TO BE ADDRESSED. I MEAN, OKAY, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL. I'M. I'M STILL IN. SO WE NEED TO HAVE AN ADULT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TOPIC, ABOUT ALL OF OUR EVENTS. [01:00:03] BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, THE COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CLERK'S BUDGET, IT EXCEEDS MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE ENTIRE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. IT EXCEEDS FOR THE ENTIRE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SOMETHING IS OFF, AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN ORDER TO, TO, TO FIX THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. I'M SURE THAT YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THERE IS A WOMAN UP HERE LAST YEAR WHOSE HOUSE BURNT DOWN, AND SHE COULDN'T FIND A CONTRACTOR TO HELP FIX HER HOUSE BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD COME IN AND HELP HER. AND SO SHE WAS DISPLACED FROM HER HOME FROM A FIRE BECAUSE OF OUR OF OUR PERMANENT DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS. AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DISCRETIONARY SPENDING. AND THAT INCLUDES ALL EVENTS. I YELLED. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN AND YES, NO NAMES WERE MENTIONED IN MY FIRST STATEMENT. HOWEVER, SOMEONE DID YOU KNOW THEY RESPONDED. AND AGAIN, AS I STATED BEFORE, 41 MEETINGS, 41 MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HAD IN REGARDS TO THIS BUDGET. WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN IS A SORE SPOT FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THIS COUNCIL. HOWEVER, THEY'VE BEEN IN OFFICE 15 MONTHS. WE'RE HERE AT THE 11TH HOUR. THEY'VE BEEN IN OFFICE 15 MONTHS, EXCEPT FOR OUR NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER. BUT 15 MONTHS. THAT'S A LOT OF TIME IN WHICH THERE COULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A COUNCIL BUDGET. THERE COULD HAVE BEEN TELEPHONE CALLS MADE. THEY'VE BEEN IN OFFICE 15 MONTHS, AND WE'RE HERE AT THE 11TH HOUR. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, SINCE NO ONE IS AGAINST WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS BUDGET, AS IS WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN ATKINS. AND THEN LET'S GET INTO IT. SO MY MOTION, EMOTION. MADAM PROVISIONAL MAYOR IS THAT WE APPROVE THE FY 22 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET MOVING REMOVING GROUP INSURANCE FOR WARD B AT LARGE FOR $8,225. I'M IN. BEFORE WE DO THIS, I NEED A SECOND. OH. IT WAS THERE A SECOND THAT WE APPROVED THE 2026 BUDGET, BUT I WANT TO I HAD TO ADD MY SECOND. JUST SO. YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. YEAH. DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO. THANK YOU. OKAY. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. I WAS ASKING THAT WE HAVE A SECOND ON IT, SO. NO, SO WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT. OKAY. WAS THERE A SECOND? NO, I WAS ASKING, WAS THERE A SECOND FOR IT? SO THAT MOTION FAILED. OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE NOW SECOND FOR A DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL DISCUSSION. SO NOW WE'RE UNDER DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GETTING IT. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE WERE ITEMS THAT I HAD IN HERE THAT I WANTED. I'M IN FOR A DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR FOR A DISCUSSION? JESUS. IT'S FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET WITH COUNCILMAN ATKINS. AMEN. RIGHT. THAT GUY. SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. FOR DISCUSSION. SO NOW THE DISCUSSION IS HAPPENING ON A MOTION. YEAH. SO IT DOESN'T. AND I'M IN. YES. NOT FOR DISCUSSION. NO. WE. WE DID THAT. SO NOW WE'RE. SO I AM IN FOR A DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DID SAY THAT I WANTED TO ADD MY ITEMS IN HERE. THESE, THESE THREE ITEMS THAT TOTAL $45,000 NOW AND TO GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND I UNDERSTAND, YES, WE HAVE HAD 41 MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS HERE AND THEY SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE. BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 23 ITEMS. THE WAY I ENVISION THIS, YOU GO DOWN THE LIST, EITHER YOU IN FOR IT TO TRY AND MAKE SOME CHANGES OR ADJUSTMENTS OR YOU'RE NOT. THAT'S ALL IT IS. AND WE COULD GO FROM THERE. I DON'T MEAN FOR THIS TO BE A LONG, DRAWN OUT PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW. WE WE AND I THINK WE'RE GOING IN A WHOLE NOTHER DIRECTION. [01:05:04] WE'RE GOING DOWN A WHOLE NOTHER RABBIT HOLE THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ADULTS UP HERE, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ADULT CONVERSATION, AND IT SHOULDN'T GO. IT SHOULDN'T GO ANY OTHER PLACE. BUT FOR WHAT IT IS, WE AND I ALREADY KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A TOUCHY SITUATION. TOUCHY TOPIC. ANYWAY. EVERYBODY KNOWS THE BUZZ ABOUT WEDNESDAY AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CANCEL WEDNESDAY. WIND DOWN, BUT THERE'S SOME CHANGES, SOME THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DONE TO IT. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO JUST TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO PUT THE BEST PRODUCT OUT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHAT CHANGES ARE YOU YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE FROM THIS BUDGET THAT COMES FROM THE HOTEL MOTEL MONEY? BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING YOU SAY WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS EVENT. WHAT CHANGES? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, COUNCILMEMBER, I SENT YOU A LIST OF NAMES, AND I TOLD YOU THAT ONCE I GET WITH THE GROUP, WE WILL GO OVER THAT, OKAY? AND THAT'S FINE. SO JUST SAYING THAT WHEN YOU SAY CHANGES, WHAT CHANGES ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE? FUNDING CHANGES. WHAT CHANGES? SOME FUNDING CHANGES. IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT THIS BUDGET CAN BE SCRUBBED AT ALL POSSIBLE, THAT'S WHAT I THINK. SO YOU WANT THIS BUDGET TO BE SCRUBBED? THESE COUNCIL ITEMS HERE. IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT YOU FEEL THAT. SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M HEARING IS. LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, OKAY. BECAUSE THERE WAS A MEETING YESTERDAY AND IT WAS ON REVENUE AND IT WAS TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND YES, I THE PERSON WAS SEEN GOING INTO THE OTHER PERSON'S HOUSE. SO YEAH, BUT SO HAVING SAID THAT YOU KNOW, I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO COME UP AND I KNEW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, IF IF IT'S REALLY SAD THAT WE'RE AT THIS SPACE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS EVENT. AND WE KNOW THAT WHAT WAS PUT OUT HERE IS TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT'S ALL EVENTS THAT NEED TO BE CUT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED IN THE BUDGETS THAT FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR. SO HAD THEY NEEDED MORE MONEY, THIS COUNCIL AND I'VE BEEN HERE 12 YEARS. THIS COUNCIL HAS NEVER VOTED AGAINST ANY DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. WE'VE ALWAYS VOTED IN SUPPORT OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS NEED, BECAUSE WE WANT THE CITY TO RUN IN THE BEST CAPACITY AND IN THE BEST WAY THAT THEY CAN. SO IF ONE DEPARTMENT HAS LESS THAN WHAT THE CITY CLERK BUDGET IS, WHICH THE CITY CLERK BUDGET INCLUDES SALARY AS WELL AS OUR SALARY, SO HER BUDGET IS NOT $2 MILLION JUST BECAUSE. IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE SALARIES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE BENEFITS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT BUDGET? AND REMEMBER, WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN IS LESS THAN 2%, TWO PENNIES. WHEN THEY GOT OTHER THINGS IN THE BUDGET, THAT'S QUITE MORE THAN THAT. BUT IT'S JUST SAD THAT WE HAVE COME TO THIS ISSUE AND THAT THIS IS TAKING OVER THE TOPIC. YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER ALREADY SAID WE HAVE UNTIL 9:00, SO I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE TILL 9:00, TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT A BUDGET THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. WE SHOULD HAVE CAME IN HERE, VOTED FOR THE BUDGET AND MOVED ON, BECAUSE ALL OF THIS NOW IS JUST A TARGET TOWARDS ANY EVENT. AND I GET IT. AND LIKE I SAID IT, THERE HAS BEEN NO PROBLEM IN EIGHT YEARS. SO IT'S NOT A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN NO PROBLEM. AND THE MONEY IS NOT TAXPAYERS MONEY. IT'S HOTEL MOTEL MONEY. SO, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY, A SERVICE THAT IS GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S A DAY ON, NOT A DAY OFF. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? WE ARE WE ARE GIVING BACK FOR WHAT THE CIVIL RIGHT HAS DONE FOR US AS PEOPLE. AND THAT IS OUR WAY OF GIVING BACK TO THE TO TO THE COMMUNITY TO SHOW. LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO STILL REMEMBER THIS HISTORY. WE'RE GOING TO STILL TALK ABOUT MLK. THE HALLOWEEN FESTIVAL IS A SAFE SPACE FOR KIDS TO COME AND ENJOY THEMSELVES, AS OPPOSED TO GOING OUT THERE HAVING TO KNOCK ON DOORS TO GET TO TRICK OR TREAT. THAT'S A SAFE SPACE FOR THEM TO COME AND HAVE FUN WHERE THEIR PARENTS CAN BRING THEM AND THEY ENJOY, [01:10:03] AND THEN THEY GO HOME AND AND THAT'S IT FOR THE TURKEY GIVEAWAY. THAT'S A COUNCIL INITIATIVE. EVERYBODY WE GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. WE DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE ON HERE. BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THE OTHER INITIATIVE IS, IS THE LITERATURE WORKSHOP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SO BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST SAD THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE AND WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ABOUT HOW TO TRIM. WHEN THE DEPARTMENTS DIDN'T SAY THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT THEY SUBMITTED IN THEIR BUDGET. AND THE PROBLEMS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING HAS IS PROBLEMS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND IF AND I WOULD HOPE, THAT MISS SMITH PUT IN FOR WHAT SHE ACTUALLY NEEDS BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A DEPARTMENT THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE ISSUES DOWN THERE. BUT I DON'T THINK I WOULD HOPE THAT IT'S NOT A FUNDING ISSUE. IT IS GETTING PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN THAT DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S JUST LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MISTER ROGERS IS HERE. MISTER ROGERS PUT IN THE BUDGET WHERE HIS DEPARTMENT NEEDS. SO. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT IN IN IN OUR YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING FOR EVENTS AND WHAT THIS BUDGET FOR THE CLERK AND THE COUNCIL IS COMPARED TO A FEW OTHER BUDGETS. AND WHAT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE SUPPORT THIS BUDGET WITH ALMOST $1 MILLION IN EVENTS ON THE COUNCIL SIDE. I THINK THAT TO THE POINT THAT SEVERAL OF MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE. IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE EVENTS. I THINK THAT WE CAN TAKE AS A BODY A GOOD LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS LIST AND PARE THIS LIST DOWN. I KNOW THAT WE COULD USE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR OUR SENIOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST OF SENIORS WHO NEED REPAIRS TO THEIR HOMES. WE COULD DO THAT AND STILL HAVE THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED ON HERE. I KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE AMOUNT OF KIDS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SERVE IN SUMMER CAMP. RIGHT NOW, OUR CITY IS ONLY ABLE TO SERVE 65 KIDS IN SUMMER CAMP, AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF A SPACE ISSUE. AND SO I THINK THAT WE STILL CAN DO EVENTS AND WE CAN PUT MONEY TOWARD SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICES THAT WE NEED FOR OUR CITY. SO FOR US TO HAVE ON THE COUNCIL SIDE AND THE COUNCIL BUDGET ALMOST $1 MILLION FOR EVENTS, SOME OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN TAKING PLACE. I THINK THAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, CAN DECIDE WHICH OF THESE EVENTS WE'D LIKE TO KEEP AS A COUNCIL. HOW WE'D LIKE TO PARE SOME DOWN IF WE WANT TO PARE SOME OF THOSE DOWN, AND HOW WE CAN EVEN PARTNER WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE THAT ALSO HAS SEVERAL EVENTS AND COULD USE THOSE THINGS AS LEVERAGE. I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE SILVER FOX BALL, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT EVENT FOR OUR SENIORS IN THIS CITY. AND ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, THEY DO A HOLIDAY EVENT FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, WHICH I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD KEEP. IF THOSE TWO ENTITIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO LEVERAGE FOR SPACE THE AMOUNT OF FOOD, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I THINK THAT THEIR COST SAVINGS AND WE'RE ABLE TO USE THOSE DOLLARS TO PUT BACK INTO SERVICES FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITHOUT. I THINK THAT WE COULD DO BETTER, AND I THINK WE CAN DECIDE WHICH OF THE EVENTS WE'D LIKE TO KEEP. IF WE'RE NOT DOING SOME OF THOSE, AND FOR THE ONES THAT WE KEEP, HOW WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE AND PUT DOLLARS INTO BUCKETS THAT ARE PROVIDING SERVICES FOR MANY OF OUR CITIZENS. I YIELD. TO ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN'S MOTION. [01:15:09] WITH THAT. SO. SO WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE NOW. IN THE BUDGET THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AMEN. I HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS. SHE'S. SHE'LL YIELD TO YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, IF THE MOTION FAILS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? A NEW MOTION CAN BE MADE. SO. I KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE A MOTION, THERE HAS TO BE A MATERIAL YOUR CHANGE IN THE MOTION, OR OTHERWISE. IT WOULD TAKE 60 DAYS FOR THE MOTION TO COME BACK. YES, MA'AM. SO I'M ASKING THAT. DOES THAT IF THIS FAILS, DOES THIS STILL ALLOW FOR US TO MAKE OTHER MOTIONS CONCERNING THE BUDGET? SO I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT RULE. IF YOU JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE A 226, WHICH IS. 24. YEAH. ROUTE 26 THAT TALKS ABOUT REINSTATEMENT OF EMOTION DOES NOT INDICATE WHETHER THE FAILED EMOTION COULD BE ENTERTAINED AT THE SAME MEETING. OR DOES IT MEAN AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING? AND SO WITH NO GUIDANCE HERE ON WHAT THAT MEANS, I GUESS I WOULD DEFER TO HOW YOU GUYS HAVE INTERPRETED THIS RULE IN THE IN THE PAST. SO AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE COULD BE SOME CHANGES TO SOME OTHER LINE THAT COULD BE AN A CHANGE THAT WOULD WARRANT RECONSIDERATION, BUT IT WOULD AGAIN REQUIRE TWO THIRDS. SO HAVING SAID THAT COUNCIL, I ASK THAT EVERYBODY GET EVERYTHING OUT ON THE TABLE. I ASK THAT WE MAKE A CLEAR MOTION AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN, AND THEN PEOPLE CAN MAKE SUBSTITUTE EMOTIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THE MOTION, OR WE CAN GO WITH THE MOTION AS IS AND VOTE ON IT. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE IN ANY TYPE OF PERIL. AND A TWO THIRDS IS REQUIRED AS OPPOSED TO FIVE VOTES AT THIS TIME. I SAY THIS WITH MY. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT WE PASS A BUDGET. THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME. SO I YIELD MY TIME. I HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. SO IF THIS MOTION DOES, IT CAN'T COME BACK FOR 60 DAYS. SO I THINK THE 26 DOESN'T THEY DON'T IT DOESN'T LIMIT IT TO FAILURE. IT JUST SAYS A MOTION IF IT DOESN'T PASS. WELL THAT'S THE RULE DOESN'T SAY THAT. IT JUST SAYS A MOTION. AND THEN IT MAY NOT BE PRESENTED AGAIN FOR SIX PASSES. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER 60 DAYS. SO SAY THAT AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH BECAUSE THE RULE DOES NOT SAY ON THE FAILED MOTION TO RECONSIDER. IT JUST SAYS IF IT DOESN'T PASS, IT CAN'T COME BACK FOR 60 DAYS. WHETHER IT PASSES OR THINGS. IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE YOUR CLOTHES, YOU CAN'T. YOU CAN'T UNTIL FOR 60 DAYS UNLESS IT'S EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES EVERY CHANGE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOOK. [01:20:02] SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS UNLESS IT IF IT FAILS, IF IT PASS OR FAIL, IT CAN'T COME BACK FOR 60 DAYS UNLESS THERE'S UNLESS IT SO OKAY. AND THERE'S NOT A DEFINITION OF WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE. SO IT. YEAH. SO THERE. SO I GUESS, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER SAID IF THERE ARE CHANGES OR. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. AND IF IT IF IT PASSES OR FAIL, IT CAN'T COME BACK FOR 60 DAYS. AND WE'LL BE WAY PAST THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE CITY WILL BE. WHERE WE WERE IN 2013. SO DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR CHANGES AT THIS TIME? SO. SIX. SEVEN YEAH. SEVEN. HERE. OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET? YES. WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE. SO THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET WITH AMENDING. YOU SEE, THE MOTION IS APPROVED. THE BUDGET WITH WITH THE AMENDMENT TO TAKE THE $8,225 FOR FROM THE WARD B INSURANCE. AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. CORRECT. THE FIFTH MOTION WAS TO PUT IT IN PUBLIC. TO PUT IT INTO PUBLIC WORKS. SO THE PUBLIC BUDGET WOULD BE INCREASED BY THE AMOUNT OF THE STATE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. I YIELD I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. SO THAT IS THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. WE'RE VOTING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL. MEMBER. FREELY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. MAYOR. PROVISIONAL PROVISIONAL MAYOR. COMMENTS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. YES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS. YES. THE MOTION FAILED. SO, 60 DAYS TO A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ANOTHER VOTE. SO DO THEY DO. SINCE THAT ONE FAILED. CAN I HAVE A I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. I HOPE SO. I HOPE IT'S EXTRAORDINARY BECAUSE WE GOT THE PASSES BUDGET. OKAY. HERE'S THE MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE BUDGET, AS SAID, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES. THE CHANGE OF MOVING $8,500 FROM SHAWN ATKINS ACCOUNT TO PUBLIC WORKS. PUBLIC WORKS, $8,225 $8,225 TO PUBLIC WORKS. YES. YES. AND THAT THE SUPERVISION OF ALL COUNCIL EVENTS BE MOVED FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. [01:25:07] AND WITH UNSAFE SUPERVISION, AS IN GOD, WHERE THE MONEY IS SPENT FROM. BECAUSE SUPERVISION IS NOT A CONSIDERATION IN MY OFFICE. SO I'M SORRY. SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING. YEAH. SHE WAS TELLING ME MY MICROPHONE. OH. OH. SO CURRENTLY THE FUNDS ARE UNDER. THE THE COUNCIL AND THE CLERK OF THE COUNCIL. IS THAT WHERE THE FUNDS ARE NOW? YES. SO WHAT? THAT. AND SO THE CITY MANAGER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISBURSEMENT OF THOSE FUNDS, AS OPPOSED TO THE CLERK OF THE THE CITY COUNCIL CLERK. THAT'S WHAT MY MOTION IS. I THINK LET'S CONFIRM WITH MR. GOLDEN THAT THAT'S EVEN AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, THAT THAT'S WHERE THESE ITEMS ARE EVEN HOUSED, LIKE IN THE BUDGET. IS THAT WHERE THEY ARE? AND THEY GOT TO GO OUT LIKE Y'ALL GOT TO CUT OFF. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. I HAVE EVERYONE IN. OH, THERE YOU GO. OKAY. THOSE ITEMS ARE ACTUALLY IN COUNCIL COMMITTEE. THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY CLERK'S. SO EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS WOULD HAVE TO BE, WELL, COLLECTIVELY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO REALLOCATE IT AND SAY, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO REALLOCATE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET INSTEAD OF THE COUNCIL AND COMMITTEES. YES. SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. YES. AND FOR DISCUSSION. I STILL NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET WITH COUNCILMEMBER MOTHER'S CHANGES. SO NOW THAT THE DISCUSSION THAT I HEARD COUNCILMEMBER ACT IS ABOUT AS WELL, BUT I HAD THE OTHER MICS THAT WERE ON, SO I THINK THEY WERE IN THERE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? NO NO, NO. OH, SECOND. SECOND ON THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. NOW WE'LL DO DISCUSSION. OKAY. DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. BECAUSE I SECOND YOUR MOTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR. SO THE EVENTS, WE WILL. THOSE EVENTS WILL MOVE, BUT WOULD STILL BE A PART OF CITY EVENTS. AND THERE'S NOT A CANCELLATION OF ANY OF THOSE EVENTS. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YES. YOU. BUT YOUR MICROPHONE. MICROPHONE, YES. OKAY. MR. CITY MANAGER WITH THIS MOTION AND THIS POTENTIAL AMENDMENT. I'M HOPING THAT YOUR OFFICE OR WHOMEVER ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE WOULD BE ABLE TO, THROUGH ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND LEVERAGING ALL OF THE EVENTS, SEEK DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY LESS THAN WHAT'S BUDGETED, SO THAT WE COULD THEN HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR SOME OTHER CITY SERVICES. WOULD THAT BE HOW YOU WOULD MANAGE THE EVENTS THAT. I WOULD OFFER THAT APPROACH. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO RAISE THIS TOPIC IN AN UPCOMING COUNCIL RETREAT, TO PROVIDE FURTHER DIRECTION AS TO EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS, SO THAT WHEN STAFF EVALUATES THEM FOR THOSE ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND THOSE THINGS, THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME GREATER DIRECTION. BUT CERTAINLY THESE ACTIVITIES ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES. ON ON THE THE CITY MANAGER SIDE OF THE BUDGET, IF YOU WILL. AND THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAXIMIZE SOME OF THOSE EFFICIENCIES AND COORDINATE SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES IN A WAY THAT WOULD COME WITH SOME, SOME EFFICIENCIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT SAID RETREAT? SO WE WE WE RECENTLY GOT FIVE MEMBERS TO TO AGREE TO SCHEDULING. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO SETS OF SCHEDULES EARLY JULY FIRST TWO WEEKS IN JULY. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO SOME WEEKS IN AUGUST THAT WERE PROVIDED. I HAVE YET HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH OUR CONSULTANT HEIDI SMALLS TO ZERO IN HER AVAILABILITY OR IF WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SEEK [01:30:01] OTHER OTHER CONSULTANTS TO HELP US FACILITATE THIS DISCUSSION. THAT'S STILL KIND OF UP TO BE SEEN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. JUST A POINT OF CLARITY. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER, WHEN YOU SAY MOVE IT UP, IT'S STILL THE SAME EVENTS. IT'S JUST BEING MOVED FROM THE CITY CLERK OFFICE TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. YES, MA'AM. SO THE EVENT STILL GO ON? YES, MA'AM. SO YOU JUST WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN AND I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM THE CITY MANAGER AS TO MEETING, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO MEET AND TALK ABOUT MY EVENT SO THAT HE WOULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS ALL WORKS, BECAUSE. YES, MA'AM, THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. SO I'LL NEED PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT HE WILL BE A PART OF THE PROCESS. HE'LL BE PRESENT. WELL, SOMEBODY FROM THE STAFF NOW. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. AND ALSO, CAN WE DO THIS LEGALLY? MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, JUST HAVE HIM MANAGE THE COUNCIL BUDGET MOVING FORWARD, OTHER THAN THE CITY CLERK, SO YOU CAN MOVE WHATEVER YOU LIKE SO LONG AS OBVIOUSLY IT'S APPROVED. SO NO, THERE'S NO LEGAL CONSIDERATION AS TO I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS MORE POLICY AND EFFICIENT WHETHER IT'S EFFICIENT OR NOT, BUT IT'S NOT A LEGAL QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. SO NOW EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT THEIR BUDGET. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT MINE. LIKE FIRST OF ALL, THIS JUNETEENTH I INHERITED. RIGHT. SO THAT WAS NOT MY INITIATIVE INITIALLY. I INHERITED THAT FROM KAREN RENEE. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO DO IS OUR STAFF IS REALLY TAXED AND BURDENED A LOT. AND SO WHAT I TEND TO DO WITH MY EVENTS IS MAKE THEM TURNKEY, WORK WITH OUTSIDE PROFESSIONALS TO KIND OF MAKE THAT WORK. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE SILVER FOX BALL, MOST OF THAT IS DONE. THAT MONEY GOES TO THE HOTEL FOR THE MEAL. AND THEN WE HIRE A DJ AND ENTERTAINMENT, THAT SITUATION. AND IN PARTICULAR WITH THE JUNETEENTH EVENT, WE'VE MADE THAT SO THAT AGAIN, WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE PERSON COMES BECAUSE THE STAFF WANTS TO HAVE THEIR HOLIDAY TO AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE WORKING EVERY WEEKEND ON AN EVENT. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT. IN ADDITION, WITH THE SISTER CITY INITIATIVE, THE $40,000 BUDGET HAS NEVER EVEN COME TO HALF OF THE BUDGET SPENT. THAT LINE ITEM IS A BUDGET, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT A BUDGET MEANS. AND I WROTE IT DOWN FROM WEBSTER'S JUST TO KNOW IT'S AN ESTIMATE OF INCOMES AND EXPENDITURES FOR A SET PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT WE'VE NEVER SPENT THAT $40,000 THAT'S BUDGETED FOR WHEN A SISTER CITY IS FOUND. THEN EVERY COUNCIL PERSON WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND BE AN AMBASSADOR FOR THE CITY AT THAT EVENT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. SO WHEN PEOPLE SEE THIS MEETING AND THEY SEE THIS SPREADSHEET, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT I DO MY VERY, VERY BEST TO BE PHYSICALLY CONSERVATIVE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUDGET. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT OUT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION TOO. THANK YOU. NO OTHER LIGHTS ARE ON. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS, DOES YOUR SECOND STILL STAND? IT DOES. OKAY. SO THE MOTION, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S TO MOVE ALL THE EVENTS, PLUS THE AMENDMENT THAT I MADE. YES. IT STANDS. BUT IS HE CLEAR BASED ON THIS? WHAT IS ALL THIS IS NOT ONLY IS IT TRUE, IT IS BEING MOVED FROM COUNCIL COMMITTEE EVENTS TO THE CITY MANAGER. YES. YES. YES. COUNCIL COMMITTEE EVENTS. YES. CLARIFICATION. THIS IS. THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE IT'S THIS EVENTS. CORRECT? IT'S NOT EVERYTHING THAT'S UNDER COUNCIL IN COMMITTEE, BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE OTHER LINE ITEMS THERE FOR LIKE STATE LOBBYISTS AND DUES AND FEES. SO. OKAY. SO JUST EVENTS THAT WE SEE HERE. OKAY. [01:35:01] YES. MY SECOND STILL STANDS. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I HAVE A QUICK, QUICK. WAIT, WAIT. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. OH. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. NEVER MIND. SURE. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THE BUDGET HAS BEEN PASSED. MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'M SORRY. ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS? [IV. EXECUTIVE SESSION] HELLO? YES, WE HAVE ONE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? WE ARE READY. YES. WE. HAVE. ONE. LEGAL. CORRECT ONE. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? WE'RE NOW ADJOURNING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.