[00:00:01] GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 11TH WORK SESSION OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. [I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER] MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. FRIEDLI. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS WILL BE LATE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. LET'S START WITH THE NEW AGENDA ITEMS AND SEE WHICH ITEMS CAN GO TO THE [Additional Item] CONSENT ITEM 24. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CHIEF BUCHANAN WANTS THIS ITEM PULLED FROM TONIGHT. AND HE WILL PLACE IT ON AT A FUTURE MEETING. THEY'RE STILL NEGOTIATING TERMS. SO THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 24. THE VENDOR AXON ENTERPRISE. 18 AND IN 19. NOT MUCH INFORMATION THERE. NUMBER 20. RENEWAL WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO DISCUSS THAT. I'M ASSUMING THIS IS BY OPTION ITEM 21. THE REQUEST FOR SMYRNA POLICE DISTRIBUTORS FOR AMMUNITION. ANY OBJECTION TO THIS GOING ON? CONSENT? NO. 22. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 23 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 24 HAS BEEN MOVED. 25 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 26 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? NO. 27 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? I'M ONLY HEARING TWO PEOPLE AUDIBLY, BUT SILENCE IS BEING CONSIDERED AS NO OBJECTION AS WELL AS ANY. IF ANYONE HAS AN OBJECTION, SPEAK UP. ITEM NUMBER 28. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? ITEM NUMBER 29. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? ITEM NUMBER 30. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER 31. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? NO. YES. DISCUSSION. ITEM NUMBER 32. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? ITEM NUMBER 33. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER. HOLD ON. OH. CARRY IT OVER. 34 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? ITEM NUMBER 35. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? OH, THIS IS THE. WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS ONE. YES. ITEM NUMBER 36. THIS IS FULTON COUNTY CULTURAL ARTS GRANT. EITHER WE DISCUSS IT TONIGHT OR JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY SO THE COMMUNITY CAN HEAR ABOUT THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY. 36 AGENDA I SEE MR. SWAIN. RIGHT. BUT I ALSO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD HEAR ABOUT. A GRANT. AWARD? UNLESS YOU ALL JUST WANT TO DO CONSENT AND PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT, SO AGENDA FOR 36, 37. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? NO. 38 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 39 ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 1.4 MILLION. LET'S TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT. NOT TO EXCEED 1.45 MILLION. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT GIVEN THE AMOUNT, WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT. ITEM NUMBER 40. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? 41 COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT? YES. I'D ASK. I DON'T SEE THE CLERK HERE, BUT I ASKED HER TO DO A PRESENTATION ON IT. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, DID MISS MCCULLOCH PROVIDE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU FOR ITEM NUMBER 41? YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY? YES. WE CAN MOVE IT TO MONDAY. MONDAY PRESENTATION. WAS THAT 18TH? 18. EXCUSE ME. COUNCIL MEMBER. [00:05:01] OKAY. NO, IT'S NOT A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND THEN 43 AND 44 COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCH, YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE TONIGHT? WE CAN MOVE TO SEPTEMBER. 43 AND 44. SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION IS SEPTEMBER 8TH. HOLD ON. 42 IS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. SO, MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, I HAVE 21 THROUGH 23 CONSENT. 24. IS PULLED BY THE CHIEF. 25 THROUGH 30. CONSENT. 32 THROUGH 34 CONSENT. 36 AGENDA. 37 AND 38 CONSENT. AND 40 CONSENT. ITEMS 43 AND 44 TO SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION. GOT IT. OH! YES. GO AHEAD AND PRESS YOUR MIC FOR ME. I HAD 18 AND 19 DOWNERS. CONSENT. IS THAT INACCURATE? NO, WE DIDN'T PUT THOSE ON CONSENT. WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. LET'S GO THROUGH PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS JUST BRIEFLY TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT WILL GET THE UPDATE ON POLICE CREDIT CARD POLICY AND TRAVEL POLICY. ARE WE DISCUSSING THAT TONIGHT? OKAY. DEPARTMENTAL VACANCIES. COUNCIL MEMBER MIKE ROGERS. I THINK THAT I CAN MOVE THAT TO SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION. OKAY. COMMISSION ON AGING COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. THE SIGNAGE, HOPEFULLY. WHERE'S MR. REEVES? MR. REEVES, HAVE WE TALKED WITH TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL ON THE SIGNAGE? YES WE HAVE. OKAY. SO I'LL LET YOU GUYS GIVE AN UPDATE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAD ANYTHING DIFFERENT. THANK YOU. 13 AND 14, WE'LL DISCUSS. 15. WE NEED TO DISCUSS. PREPAY UTILITY PROGRAM. YES. YEAH, 15 TIES INTO THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM. AND THEN 17. WE MAY TAKE ACTION TONIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. LET'S GET STARTED. FORENSIC AUDIT PRESENTATION. [II.1. Forensic Audit Presentation] SO LAST MONDAY DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETING, THE FORENSIC AUDIT WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. AND THE DESIRE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE AUDITOR CAME UP FROM SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MYSELF. ON TUESDAY, I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHO'S A STAFF PERSON, WHO HAD BEEN THE CONTACT PERSON FOR THE FORENSIC AUDITOR ABOUT HAVING REACHING OUT TO THE AUDITOR TO COME TO A UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING AND WAS INFORMED THAT MISS MICHELLE MICHAEL HAD ALREADY SENT AN EMAIL INDICATING THAT SHE HAD BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT COMING TO THE AUGUST 11TH WORK SESSION. MEETING TO PRESENT BY COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, AND SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD BE FIRST ON THE AGENDA. CAN WE PLEASE BE EARLY ON THE AGENDA ON AUGUST 11TH SO WE CAN CATCH FLIGHTS HOME AT THAT NIGHT? THAT WAS SENT ON AUGUST 5TH AT 10:47 A.M.. I RESPONDED AT 1:47 P.M. THAT TUESDAY AFTER THAT COUNCIL MEETING, AND INDICATED THAT THE FORENSIC AUDIT WILL BE THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AUGUST 11TH WORK SESSION AGENDA. AND SHE INDICATED, MISS MICHAEL SAID, THANK YOU. WE WILL BE THERE. BASED ON THAT, I ASKED THE. I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY CLERK ABOUT PLACING THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. SHE INDICATED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL HAD ALREADY REACHED OUT AS WELL. DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY NIGHT, HE SENT AN EMAIL. SO HENCE THE ITEM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL MYSELF. AND THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. TO MY SURPRISE AND SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTMENT ON FRIDAY. AND BASED ON THAT COMMUNICATION WITH MISS MICHAEL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE REACHED [00:10:02] OUT TO ME. I RESPONDED TO AN EMAIL INDICATING THAT THE FORENSIC AUDITOR WAS SCHEDULED TO BE AT OUR MEETING TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO COUNCIL, AND THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSING NEXT STEPS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, ON AUGUST THE 8TH, FRIDAY, AUGUST THE 8TH AT 2:35 P.M. RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING EMAIL FROM MISS MICHELLE MCHALE MC CAPITAL H A L E HAPPY FRIDAY TO YOU ALL. I JUST SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WAS INFORMED THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE QUITE A FOCUS REGARDING OUR EXPANDED SCOPE OF WORK. THE ADDITIONAL WORK WE DID AT NO ADDITIONAL COST UNDERLINE AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY ABOVE CONTRACT. I'VE BEEN ASKED THE QUESTION OF WHO AUTHORIZED THE EXPANDED SCOPE. I'M UNSURE THE REASON FOR THIS QUESTION. WHEN THE CITY DID NOT, WOULD NOT IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS INCUR ANY ADDITIONAL COST. IN FACT, WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER THE BUDGET COSTS FOR OUR ENGAGEMENT. THEREFORE, THE CITY RECEIVED ADDITIONAL ANALYZES SLASH RESULTS BEYOND WHAT WAS EXPECTED. NORMALLY, CLIENTS ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THOSE EXTRA EFFORTS AND FINDINGS. IF THE INTENT SLASH OBJECTIVE ON MONDAY IS TO CRITICIZE PLANTE MORAN PUBLICLY FOR OUR WORK, THEN THE RESULTS OF OUR WORK WILL HAVE BEEN LOST. INSTEAD, THE FOCUS SHOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE REPORT AND THE NEXT STEPS THE CITY IS TAKING HAS TAKEN TO STRENGTHEN THE CONTROL ENVIRONMENT, WHICH THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE ABLE TO CONVEY TO THE COUNCIL ONCE HE GETS UP TO SPEED. THE CITY'S ACCOUNTING HAS PROGRESSED SIGNIFICANTLY WITH PLANTE MORAN'S ASSISTANCE SINCE THE START OF OUR ENGAGEMENT TO GET THE BANK RECONCILIATIONS COMPLETED. OBTAINING A FIXED ASSET REPORT TO CORRECT THE $11 MILLION OF UNKNOWN ASSETS, ETC.. ACCORDINGLY, WE DO NOT WANT TO DETRACT FROM THE FOLK THAT FOCUS AND WILL NOT PRESENT. UNDERLYING WILL NOT PRESENT AT MONDAY'S MEETING. THE REPORT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND OUR WORK HAS CONCLUDED. IT IS OFTEN CUSTOMARY TO HAVE THE AUDITOR COME TO OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS AND PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO COUNCIL AND ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION. SO I ASKED FOR THE CONTRACT TO BE REVIEWED THAT WE HAVE WITH PLANTE MORAN TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE CONTRACT THAT REQUIRES THEM TO PRESENT A FINAL PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL. UNFORTUNATELY, ALTHOUGH THAT HAS BEEN IN PRIOR AUDITS, IT WAS NOT IN THIS AUDIT, AND IT ONLY SPEAKS ABOUT VERBAL UPDATES. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO TO REQUIRE SOMEONE THAT WE PAID TO DO AN AUDIT THAT WE ENGAGED INITIALLY, I THINK BACK IN OCTOBER 2023 WAS THE DATE OF THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER OF ENGAGEMENT FOR THIS AUDIT THAT HAS TAKEN ALMOST TWO YEARS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO REQUIRE THEM TO COME TO PRESENT TO US. I FIND IT DISAPPOINTING THAT SOMEONE THAT WE PAID TO DO AND RENDER SERVICES TO THE CITY IS REFUSING TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING TO PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS AND HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, OR HAVE QUESTIONS ASKED AND ANSWERED BY COUNCIL. AND SO TONIGHT WE FIND OURSELVES HERE. WHEN I INITIALLY ASKED THE CITY CLERK TO INCLUDE THIS ON THE AGENDA, I ALSO INCLUDED THE CITY MANAGER, AS HE WAS ALSO ON THE EMAIL FROM THE AUDITOR ON FRIDAY WHERE SHE INDICATED SHE WILL NOT BE HERE. AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION ON THE FORENSIC AUDIT. THE CITY MANAGER DID NOT WANT TO BE INCLUDED ON THIS ITEM. AND SO AT THIS POINT, I GUESS IT'S A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, AS HE IS THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAD REACHED OUT ABOUT PUTTING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE FORENSIC AUDIT, AND SO MY INTENT WILL BE IF THE CITY MANAGER OR STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM THAT I'M ABOUT TO TAKE OUT THE FORENSIC ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE FINDINGS AND ASK WHERE STAFF IS ON EACH OF THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. IF STAFF IS NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT TONIGHT, THEN WE'LL PUT IT ON A FUTURE PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION IN A PUBLIC FORUM ON THE RECORD ABOUT THE FORENSIC AUDIT FINDINGS AND REPORT THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO US. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THEN I'LL GO TO THE CITY MANAGER TO ASK IF THERE'S A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. IF THERE'S NOT, I'M GOING TO TAKE OUT THE REPORT AND WE CAN START THERE. AND IF HE SAYS THAT THEY'RE NOT READY TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS TONIGHT, I'LL BE ASKING, WHEN WILL THEY BE ADDRESSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS WITH THE AUDIT. ONE RECENTLY HEARING THAT IT IS NOT FREE FOR THE PUBLIC TO OBTAIN THIS. I'M HEARING YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE AUDIT AND PUT IN AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. SO I THINK WE USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. WE PAID HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. I FORGET HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY PAID FOR THIS. SO THE TAXPAYERS HAVE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY TO HAVE AN AUDIT, AND I DO NOT THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH SO MANY HOOPS IN ORDER TO VIEW IT. [00:15:03] THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE MAKING THIS MORE READILY AVAILABLE, LIKE PUTTING THIS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. OR. WELL, NO, WE'RE ACTUALLY YOU'RE SHARING YOUR OPENING REMARKS. I'M JOTTING DOWN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. THE AUDITS GENERALLY ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST. AND IT COULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE OPERATIONALLY. BUT YOU CAN GO AHEAD WITH YOUR COMMENTS. YES. THANK YOU. SO MY THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS JUST MAKING SURE THIS REPORT THAT THE TAX AND THE CITIZENS PAY FOR, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY FOR RIGHT NOW. I WILL NOW GO TO MR. JONES. I KNOW WE I'M LOOKING ON THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE, AND I SEE BUDGET AND TAXES. I DON'T SEE AUDITS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY OBJECTION. OR SHOULD THERE BE AN OBJECTION TO A REPORT THAT'S ALREADY MADE PUBLIC BEING PLACED ON THE WEBSITE. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. JONES FOR HIS OPENING REMARKS TO FIND OUT IF WE'RE GETTING A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF OR WE'RE GUIDING THIS DISCUSSION OURSELVES TONIGHT. SO TO BE CLEAR, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND FOR THAT MATTER OF FACT, ANY OTHER CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS NOT BEEN A PART OF THIS AUDITING PROCESS. AND UNDERSTANDABLY SO. THIS TAKES PLACE AROUND THE TIME OF THE FISHING HANDLE AND THAT AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS AS TO IF THERE WERE STAFF INVOLVED OR IF THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME WAS INVOLVED. SO IN AN EXTRAORDINARY STEP THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD CONDUCT THIS FORENSIC AUDIT BUT UTILIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THAT TIME TO BE THE COORDINATING DEPARTMENT FOR ALL THOSE AUDIT ACTIVITIES. THAT BEING THE CASE STAFF HAD READILY BEEN AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ONCE REQUESTED. BUT IN IN TYPICAL SITUATIONS. THERE'S SOME COMMUNICATIONS TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE AUDITORS ARE LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE MULTIPLE PLACES AND WAYS TO GET AND GATHER INFORMATION THAT NEVER HAPPENED. AND SO I CAN'T ATTEST TO ANYTHING IN, IN THIS AUDIT AND THIS AUDIT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED OUTSIDE OF MY REVIEW. THERE'S BEEN IN MY SHORT TENURE A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE I'VE ASKED TO SEE THE DRAFT. I HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN A DRAFT UNTIL IT WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. SO WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE PRETTY INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AUDIT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE LOOKED AT THE AUDIT AND ARE WORKING ON PREPARING RESPONSES TO THE AUDIT. SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND SINCE THE AUDIT INITIALLY STARTED IN 2021 THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ONGOING. AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO TO ADDRESS. BUT AGAIN, WE JUST RECEIVED IT AS AS THE PUBLIC RECEIVED IT. AND THAT WAS LAST WEEK. SO THE THE QUESTION OR WHAT I OPENED WITH WAS NOT TO HAVE YOU SPEAK TO THE BACKGROUND OF THE AUDIT OR ANY OF THE PROCESSES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS IN THIS AUDIT THAT SPEAK TO FINANCIAL CONTROLS AND PROTOCOLS, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. THERE'S SOME THAT SAY NOTHING FURTHER NEEDS TO BE DONE. THERE'S SOME THAT REQUIRE THINGS TO BE DONE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE RECEIVED THIS. IT BECAME PUBLIC, I BELIEVE, AROUND JULY 26TH, THE END OF JULY, JULY 2627. AND SO IT'S BEEN ABOUT LAST TUESDAY. SO THE AUDIT WAS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE LAST TUESDAY AND IT WAS AVAILABLE PROVIDED BY TO SOME WAS NOT PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK THE CITY CLERK, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT NOT THE PUBLIC. AND THE CITY MANAGER WAS A PART OF THAT. SO WHAT I'M GETTING TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER, IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO SPEAK TONIGHT AS TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS IN THIS REPORT, THAT'S FINE. WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN WE CAN HAVE THAT PUBLIC DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THIS PUBLIC ON THE [00:20:02] RECORD MEETING, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WHAT THE FINDINGS ARE, THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE. AND SO IF THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT, THAT'S FINE. THE QUESTION IS WHICH FUTURE MEETING WILL THAT HAPPEN? WILL IT HAPPEN AT OUR AUGUST 18TH MEETING. WILL IT HAPPEN AT THE SEPTEMBER 2ND MEETING? WILL IT HAPPEN AT THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING? WILL IT HAPPEN AT THE SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING? SO I'M JUST ASKING WHERE WE SHOULD PLACE THIS, BECAUSE THESE FINDINGS DEAL WITH FINANCIAL ISSUES, FINANCIAL CONTROLS AND OPERATIONS AND SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT HAVE COME UP. AND SO IF WE'RE NOT READY TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT, THAT'S FINE. WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT? WHEN DO YOU WANT IT TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA? AUGUST 18TH. SEPTEMBER 2ND. SEPTEMBER 8TH OR SEPTEMBER 15TH. IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER? YES, IT IS, MR. JONES. WE ARE STILL GOING THROUGH THE INFORMATION. IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE MORE TIME THAN THE 18TH TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A THOROUGH ACCOUNTING FOR EACH ONE OF THE ITEMS ADDRESSED IN THE AUDIT. SO THEN AT LEAST SEPTEMBER 2ND. SEPTEMBER 8TH OR SEPTEMBER 15TH. SEPTEMBER 2ND IS THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER 8TH IS THE WORK SESSION FOR SEPTEMBER, AND SEPTEMBER 15TH IS THE SECOND OFFICIAL MEETING OF COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER. IT SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR A WORK SESSION. SO. SO SEPTEMBER THE 8TH. OKAY, WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE SEPTEMBER 8TH AGENDA FOR A PRESENTATION. AND I COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. AND JUST FOR I'M GOING TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I THINK HAS HAPPENED. AND THEN WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION WHICH WE MAY HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED. SO WHEN WE FIRST ORDERED THE FORENSIC AUDIT BECAUSE PART OF THE MANAGEMENT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED. THIS WAS MOVED UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, OF WHICH OUR CURRENT CITY ATTORNEY WAS NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT DEPARTMENT. AND SO MY QUESTION TO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHEN DID THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE RECEIVE THE FORENSIC AUDIT? THIS IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER. TUESDAY. SO LAST WEEK TUESDAY OF LAST WEEK. SO YOU'VE ONLY HAD IT SIX DAYS. THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO, MADAM MAYOR, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS ASKED THAT THEY BE GIVEN UNTIL NEXT MONTH'S WORK SESSION IN ORDER TO. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO AT THAT TIME? WE'VE ALREADY PLACED IT ON SEPTEMBER 8TH FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT WAS SENT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS BY EMAIL JULY 29TH. 2025 FROM THE CITY CLERK, MONIQUE MOLATE. IT HAS COUNCIL MEMBERS ON IT. I'M NOT SURE WHY THE CITY MANAGER WASN'T INCLUDED ON THAT, BUT THE CLERK CAN CAN SAY WHETHER OR NOT SHE SENT IT TO HIM. BUT JULY 29TH? YES, MA'AM. I'M I'M I'M. I THINK MY QUESTION, THOUGH, IS ASKING THE CITY MANAGER. AND WHERE WOULD HE WHAT WOULD HE BE PREPARED TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL ON ON THAT DATE? BECAUSE THIS IS I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE CONFUSION MAY HAPPEN FIRST. I AGREE WITH YOU, IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PLANTE MORAN WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION, AND SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. SO NOW WE'RE ASKING THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. HOWEVER, THEY WERE NEVER INVOLVED IN THE FORENSIC AUDIT BASED UPON THE REASONS THAT WERE GIVEN EARLIER. AND SO, AND NEITHER WAS THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY AT THE TIME. SO TO HAVE THEM DO A PRESENTATION ON THE AUDIT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE. I'LL RESERVE THAT WORD FOR SOMETHING ELSE. SO I'M ASKING, WHAT WILL HE BE PRESENTING ON OUR NEXT WORK SESSION? WILL YOU BE PRESENTING THE SOLUTIONS TO THE OR TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE CITY IS MOVING REGARDING THAT? YES, SIR. ACTUALLY, IN MY MANAGER'S REPORT, I'VE ALREADY PROVIDED A FRAMEWORK ON WHICH TO ADDRESS MYRIAD OF ISSUES THAT I WAS ABLE TO DISCOVER IN MY INITIAL REVIEW. [00:25:07] BUT THERE WILL NEED TO BE THOSE ITEMS WOULD NEED TO BE FLESHED OUT SO I WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT FLESHED OUT DETAILS, AT LEAST AS FAR AS STAFF CAN GET TOGETHER BY THAT TIME. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE ADDRESSED. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE UPDATES ON THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED. SOME OF THOSE WILL BE REAL TIME DISCOVERIES, WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE OUR PROGRESS ON THAT. AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO GET TO WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TIMELINES ON. WHEN WE DO BELIEVE WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO THEM. SO, MADAM MAYOR, DOES THIS MEET WITH YOUR APPROVAL AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE PRESENTATION? YEAH. I'VE NEVER ASKED THAT. THE CITY MANAGER PRESENT HOW THE AUDIT WAS CONDUCTED. I INDICATED THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS. SO THROUGHOUT THIS IT SAYS CONCLUSION OF FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THIS PROCEDURE, WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS. SO THAT'S OPERATIONAL. I'M NOT ASKING HIM TO PRESENT ON HOW THEY CONDUCTED IT. AGAIN, A VENDOR THAT WE PAID IS REFUSING TO COME TO DO THAT, RIGHT? SO WE ARE ASKING THE CITY MANAGER WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REPORT THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN THE AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES THEM TO DO A FINAL PRESENTATION TO ADDRESS THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS THROUGHOUT THIS REPORT. AGAIN, THERE ARE A NUMBER THAT SAY NOTHING FURTHER IS REQUIRED. RIGHT. BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OTHERS THAT HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE OPERATIONALLY. SO WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. THANK YOU. I YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. SO CITY CLERK, THE THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT TO COUNCIL. WAS THERE A A SEPARATE EMAIL THAT WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE? I DIDN'T EMAIL THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT KEISHA SENT IT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ON JULY 31ST WHEN SHE RETURNED FROM VACATION. OKAY. AND JUST AS A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT THE THAT THE THREE THINGS THAT WERE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ARE PERSONNEL, LEGAL AND REAL ESTATE AND DISCUSSING FORENSIC AUDITS OR FINDINGS OR WHAT HAVE YOU IS NOT ALLOWED. JUST AS A REMINDER. THANK YOU. YEAH, I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAID THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION. I ACTUALLY SAID PLACE ON SEPTEMBER 8TH AS A PRESENTATION. THEN WHY THEN WHAT HAVE WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN HAPPENING? WHY HAS WHAT HAS HAPPENED HAPPENED? BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INVESTIGATION AND OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ADVISED THERE WAS DURING THE INVESTIGATION. AND THEN ONCE THE REPORT WAS FINALIZED, THERE'S TEN DAYS THAT IT'S STILL KEPT LIKE NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER THOSE TEN DAYS EXPIRES, WHICH IS WHEN THE REPORT WAS SENT TO US ON JULY 29TH AND THEN TO THE CITY MANAGER MANAGER ON JULY 31ST. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE STATUTORY PROVISION THAT YOU SHARED WITH COUNCIL DURING THE TIME THAT WE WERE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHY WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT A FORENSIC AUDIT DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT NOW THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE AND IT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, AND IT IS A PUBLIC DISCUSSION. ATTORNEY WIGGINS YES, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT SECTION OF TITLE 50, WHICH IS THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. BUT YES, BECAUSE IT WAS AN INVESTIGATION. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. IT DID GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL THE AUTHORITY TO DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT ONLY WHILE THE INVESTIGATION IS PENDING. ONCE IT'S CLOSED, IT'S, WELL, TEN DAYS AFTER IT'S CLOSED. IT'S NO LONGER DEEMED AN OPEN INVESTIGATION THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE, I'LL LOCATE THAT THAT CODE SECTION FOR YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. NOPE. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I THINK MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AND THE COMMENTS THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE. I THINK MY COLLEAGUES HAVE STATED THOSE THINGS. I'LL JUST EMPHASIZE THAT I DON'T KNOW THE TENOR OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE AUDITOR, BUT IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING AND DISTURBING THAT THE AUDITOR WOULD THE AUDITOR WOULD REFUSE TO SHOW UP FOR A PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC ON THE FINDINGS, BASED ON A QUESTION BEING ASKED IN THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CONVERSATION WAS CONTENTIOUS OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING. I MEAN, THIS IS ABOUT TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. I THINK THAT THE TAXPAYERS DESERVE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE AUDITOR. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IF IT IS ABSOLUTELY A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT THE AUDITOR WOULD NOT COME. I FIND THAT DISTURBING AND DISAPPOINTING. [00:30:03] I ALSO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP IN BOTH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THAT WE DO LEVEL SET EXPECTATIONS. THEY WERE NOT HERE WHEN THE AUDIT STARTED AND OF COURSE, DID NOT CONDUCT THE AUDIT. AND SO I GUESS WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO SEE WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE TO CORRECT THE FINDINGS IN THE AUDIT. BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM THE AUDITOR AND TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDED THE AUDIT. SO THAT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING. ATTORNEY WIGGINS, ARE YOU IN OR IS THAT FROM EARLIER? OH I'M SORRY OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YEAH. AND I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT WHAT IS ALSO EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING IS THAT A MEMBER OF COUNCIL WOULD INDEPENDENTLY REACH OUT TO THE AUDITOR AND NOT COPY ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE EMAIL. THAT'S WHAT I ALSO FIND EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING AND DISTURBING BECAUSE I WASN'T COPIED TO THE EMAIL, TO THE AUDITOR, AND FOR SOMEONE TO REACH OUT TO THE AUDITOR INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT LETTING THE FULL BODY KNOW. THAT'S EQUALLY DISTURBING. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 8TH PRESENTATION, FORENSIC AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS. SO I GUESS IT WILL BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE FORENSIC AUDIT THAT WAS NEVER REQUESTED. IF THE AUDITOR HAS A CHANGE OF HEART I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN COMB THE AGREEMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT GIVES US ANY LEGAL BASIS TO REQUIRE THE FORENSIC AUDITOR TO COME DO THE PRESENTATION ON THE ACTUAL FORENSIC AUDIT. BUT IF THAT HAPPENS IN THE FORENSIC AUDITOR IS COMING TO A PREVIOUS MEETING. WELL, I MEAN, A FUTURE MEETING THAT WILL BE CALLED THE FORENSIC AUDIT PRESENTATION, BUT FOR THE SEPTEMBER 8TH FORENSIC AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS PRESENTATION. AND FROM THE CITY MANAGER. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UPDATE. MR. JONES. THANK YOU. WE'LL HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC. I'M SORRY. THERE WAS ONE OTHER REQUEST AND WE DIDN'T GET A VERBAL RESPONSE, A RESPONSE TO THAT. THE MAKING THE AUDIT AVAILABLE ONLINE. I'VE READ THROUGH IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE REDACTED. I DON'T SEE ANY ACCOUNT NUMBERS OR ANY OF THAT INFORMATION. BUT BEFORE WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE ONLINE, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE AUDIT BEING AVAILABLE? I'M IN FOR DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY. PERFECT. SO WE'LL GO TO CITY ATTORNEY. I JUST HAD THE CODE SECTION FOR COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER AND FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. SHARE THAT. 50 1870 284 50. DASH 18. DASH 70 2A4. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. YES, MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US MAKING IT PUBLIC, BUT SHOULD WE MAKE IT PUBLIC AFTER? THE CITY IS PREPARED TO SAY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MAKE THE REMEDIES TO THOSE PROBLEMS HAVE TO BE COMPLETED. YES, THAT'S A THOUGHT. I WAS COUNCIL DESIRE. LET ME LET ME GO THROUGH THE OTHER PERSONS WHOSE LIGHTS ARE ON, AND THEN WE COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCILMAN ATKINS. AND THEN I THINK COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL'S LIGHT WAS GREEN. SO, MADAM MAYOR, I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I'M SO. NO, LET COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE, I GO I, I HAVE A REMEDY FOR THE ISSUE, BUT I'M GOING TO DEFER. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING BECAUSE THERE IS INFORMATION THAT'S CONTAINED IN THERE THAT IS HURTING PEOPLE. BUSINESS. HURTING PEOPLE'S PUBLIC LIVES. AND THERE ARE ACCOUNT NUMBERS IN THAT AUDIT REPORT. OKAY. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL, OUR CITY ATTORNEY. YES. SO TO SPEAK TO COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ONLY MAKE IT AVAILABLE AFTER THE PRESENTATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS. THE DOCUMENT IS ALREADY A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. I THINK THAT WE ARE ALWAYS ADDING TO THE WORKLOAD OF STAFF. IF THE DOCUMENT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AND CITIZENS CAN GET IT, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, THAT MEANS THAT SOMEONE HAS TO PHYSICALLY PROCESS THAT. THAT MEANS THAT IT GOES INTO A SYSTEM AND THEY HAVE TO PROCESS THAT. AND SO I ALWAYS THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING SMARTER AND NOT HARDER. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE REDACTED BASED ON THE LAW. THE LEGAL OFFICE. OPINION. WE SHOULD DO THAT AND MAKE THE DOCUMENT AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULD WITHHOLD IT. [00:35:03] UNTIL AFTER CITIZENS MAY WANT TO GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT. THEY MAY HAVE QUESTIONS IF THEY'RE COMING TO HEAR THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY MAY HAVE QUESTIONS AND SHOULD BE PREPARED TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. YEAH. TO THOSE SAME SENTIMENTS. SO I THINK THE SOONER WE RELEASE IT THE BETTER. INFORMATION IS ALREADY OUT THERE. AND I JUST THINK IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO BE INFORMED. SO I WOULD SAY THE SOONER THE BETTER. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. SHE'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SORRY. YEAH. IN THIS INSTANCE, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. WE NEED TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN SEE WHAT THOSE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ARE AND THEN PUT THE DOCUMENT OUT THERE. BECAUSE WHAT SENSE DOES IT MAKE TO PUT THE DOCUMENT OUT THERE? I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, AND I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO. HOWEVER, PEOPLE'S PERSONAL INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. ACCOUNT NUMBERS ARE OUT THERE. SOMEONE'S ADDRESS IS OUT THERE. AND WHAT I DID NOTICE IN THE REPORT WAS THERE WAS MENTION OF A COUNCIL MEMBER HAVING A SECOND HIGHEST BILL, BUT THEIR NAME WASN'T IN THE REPORT. SO WE NEED TO JUST AS GOOD STEWARDS, BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE PUT PEOPLE'S INFORMATION OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES ACT, THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. AND ALSO, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE DEALING WITH THE STATE OF GEORGIA AND PRIVACY ISSUE RELATED ACTS AND LAWS. SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S MANAGERS PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. CORRECT. THAT'S WHEN THE PRESENTATION WILL BE. YES. THANK YOU. I'M BACK IN COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY AGAIN, THERE ARE PEOPLE, BUSINESS INFORMATION THAT IS INACCURATE IN THAT REPORT. SO IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE A UPDATE OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CORRECT THAT ISSUE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THREE AND TWO, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER HASN'T INDICATED, BUT EITHER WAY, WE'RE NOT AT FIVE. SO GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM. BUTLER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I THINK WE BOTH TOOK HIGH SCHOOL ALGEBRA. WHAT I RECOMMEND WE DO IS JUST PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ON IT ON MONDAY. WHETHER WE WANT TO RELEASE THIS OR NOT. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE IN A PUBLIC MEETING NOW. I MEAN, WE CAN PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY. TO TAKE A VOTE. BUT, I MEAN, I CAN ALSO COUNT RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE NOT AT FIVE TONIGHT, SO EITHER WAY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TONIGHT. AND IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 8TH, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT. YOU KNOW MADAM CITY. OH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD BE ON PAR WITH PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONDAY SO WE CAN VOTE ON IT, THEN. I MY POSITION IS THAT THIS IS ALREADY A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. ANYBODY CAN ALREADY ACCESS THE DOCUMENT. SO WHY NOT JUST HAVE IT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? AND RELEASE THE WORKLOAD OF OUR STAFF. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. YES. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS THAT ASKING IF THIS CONVERSATION IS LIMITED TO. WHETHER IT'S RELEASED ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE WE CANNOT DECLINE IT BEING. OH, YES. THANK YOU. IS IF THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT BEING THE DOCUMENT BEING RELEASED ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE WE CANNOT DECLINE. AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. YES. IT'S SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON THE WEBSITE WITHOUT OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. AND THERE'S BEEN STATEMENTS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE REDACTED IN THE REPORT. AND SO EVEN WITH THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST THERE IS REDACTED. THE LAW ALLOWS FOR REDACTION. AND SO THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE THOSE REQUIREMENTS EITHER. THE AGENDA ITEM TITLE FOR THIS. [00:40:17] MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK. IT WILL DEFINITELY BE AN AGENDA ITEM, NOT CONSENT. AND IT COULD BE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MAKING FORENSIC AUDIT AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. HOW DOES THAT SOUND? I'M THINKING OUT LOUD. OKAY. YOU. KNOW THE. WE ARE ALREADY REQUIRED BY OPEN RECORDS LAW REGARDING DISCLOSURE TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ONLINE, OR IF PEOPLE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GET IT THROUGH AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. I. DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON THIS ITEM. WE WILL. I'M SORRY. MR.. MR. ROGERS, YOU CAME UP WITH WHY? YOU YOU WERE WISE. YOU SAT BACK DOWN AND WENT A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN EXPECTED. SO, MR. JONES, NEXT UP IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UPDATE. [II.2. Economic Development/Update] YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. OUR DIRECTOR MR. ROGERS, WILL TAKE US THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION ON THE UPDATE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER JONES, AND GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING, I SHOULD SAY. MAYOR AND COUNCIL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE OF SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE DEPARTMENT. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS, FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU SUBMITTED LAST WEEK TO GIVE ME SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT. I DID HAND OUT TO YOU AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A ONE PAGE CITY OF EASTPOINTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UPDATE. BASED ON THE THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT ARE ADDRESSED, OUR DEPARTMENT'S WORK IS TO FOCUS ON POSITIONING THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AS A COMPETITIVE, VIBRANT, AND INCLUSIVE CITY TO RETAIN AND RECRUIT QUALITY JOBS AND QUALITY INVESTMENT. MY REPORT TODAY. THIS UPDATE WILL TOUCH ON FIVE DIFFERENT OR SIX DIFFERENT TOPICS, I SHOULD SAY. I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE IN TERMS OF ITS ECONOMIC OUTLOOK INDUSTRY INDUSTRIES GROWTH DRIVEN DRIVING GROWTH. I SHOULD SAY THOSE THAT ARE REALLY PUSHING OUR STABILITY IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC PROSPERITY. I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. PRIORITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE AND, OF COURSE, HOW WE ARE LEVERAGING OUR FEDERAL AND STATE RESOURCES TO ADD TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUCCESS HERE IN THE CITY. SO WITH THAT, I WILL GET STARTED. OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC OUTLOOK IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF 4.6. THAT TYPICALLY RANGES BETWEEN 4.2 AND 4.8. AND WE WE TYPICALLY ENGAGE WITH THE WITH RESPECT TO THE STATE, JUST A FEW POINTS ABOVE THAT. AND IN THIS CASE, THE STATE IS AT 3.6 ITSELF. AND SO WE'RE BROADLY IN THAT IN THAT VICINITY IN TERMS OF OUR ECONOMIC UNEMPLOYMENT RATE WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. THE MAIN DRIVERS NEARBY OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES THE HARTSFIELD JACKSON INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. THAT IS A THREE THAT IS A $34.8 BILLION OPERATION, AND IT EMPLOYS 63,000 PLUS EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE ON A DAILY BASIS. AND OF COURSE, THAT PARTICULAR OPERATION KEEPS THINGS LIKE OUR LOGISTICS WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION AND OTHERS INTACT WITH THE TYPE OF JOBS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY AS WELL AS HOSPITALITY, TRAVEL, AND OF COURSE FOOD SERVICES INDUSTRIES THAT ARE VERY PREVALENT HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AS WELL. OF COURSE, IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR YOU APPROVED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PLAN FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. SO WE ARE NOW IN THE THROES OF WORKING ON THAT INFORMATION AS WE [00:45:04] MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS GOING TO GIVE US A A BEYOND LOOK OF THE CURRENT HORIZON FOR YEARS TO COME AFTER THAT, IN TERMS OF US GETTING A NICE REFRESH IN TERMS OF OUR TARGETED INDUSTRIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO RIGHT NOW, THE THE STEADY BOTTOM LINE OF WHERE WE ARE IS THAT EASTPOINTE IS IN REALLY GOOD POSITION WITH RESPECT TO ITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS AS IT PUTS EASTPOINTE IN A CONSTRUCTIVE OPPORTUNITY SEEKING POSTURE FOR THE TIME FRAME OF THAT PLAN. MANY, MANY MONTHS FROM NOW. AND OF COURSE, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, OUR KEY INDUSTRIES DRIVING GROWTH LOGISTICS, WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION, FOOD SERVICES, HOSPITALITY TECHNOLOGY, AND OF COURSE, THE CREATIVE ENTITY NOW AS WELL, BECAUSE OUR RECENT PLAN DISCLOSED THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF CREATIVITY TYPE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE MOVING INTO OUR CITY, AND WE'RE VERY THRILLED ABOUT THAT. OF COURSE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING AND AEROSPACE PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE AS IT REGARDS MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OPERATIONS. WITH RESPECT TO OUR GEORGIA PARTNERS OF GEORGIA. QUICK START, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM WITH RESPECT TO THOSE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING INTO THE CITY THAT NEEDS TRAINING FOR THEIR EMPLOYER EMPLOYEES. AND SO BEING THIS CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT OBVIOUSLY PUTS US IN A VERY RELATED AIRPORT CLUSTER WHERE YOU HAVE SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT HAVE THE SAME NEEDS CLUSTERING IN A VICINITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DEMANDS ARE MET IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF JOBS THAT ARE REQUIRED. SO WE'RE VERY STRATEGICALLY LOCATED WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE SITUATED HERE IN THIS TRI CITIES AREA RELATED TO THE AIRPORT ITSELF FILM AND TV CREATIVE PRODUCTIONS IS A SPILLOVER. WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY. I'LL SHARE A FEW OF THE FILMS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOT HERE THIS YEAR SO FAR. A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE THE PRESENTATION, BUT THE AREA CONVENIENCE, IT PROVIDES AGAIN WITH THE RESPECT TO THE AIRPORT, A REGIONAL CLUSTER EFFECT. AND SO THE ECONOMIC ADVANTAGES THAT FIRMS AND INDUSTRIES GAIN WHEN THEY ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY CONCENTRATED. IS GOOD FOR US. IT'S GOOD FOR THE TRI-CITIES AREA, AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE REGION. OUR HOSPITALITY AND VISITOR SERVICES CONVENTIONS THE AIRPORT THROUGHOUT IS A IS A MAJOR PLAYER OF THIS, AS WELL AS THE TRI-CITIES CONFIGURATION AS WELL. WE HAVE SOME MIXED USE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH. INFILL DEVELOPMENT, OF COURSE, IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SOME RETAIL EFFORTS AS WELL. THE DOWNTOWN REINVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IN DOWNTOWN AS WELL AS ACROSS THE TRACKS COMING FULL CIRCLE AT THIS TIME. AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE DENSIFYING OUR, OUR CITY LARGELY WITH RESPECT TO SO MANY PEOPLE LOOKING TO RELOCATE OR EXPAND DO BUSINESS AS WELL AS WORK HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. SO THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE NEW INVESTMENTS, OF COURSE. BOOGIE-WOOGIE WAGON WORKS 1720 WASHINGTON ROAD NOW IS UNDER CONTRACT, WHICH IS JUST UP THE STREET ACROSS FROM ACE HARDWARE. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT AS WELL. WHAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS? WELL, WE'VE WE'VE SET A MILESTONE WITH WITH RESPECT TO THE FACT THAT WE RETIRED OUR KEMP CREEK TAD, AND WE DID THAT NOT IN DUE TIME, BUT WE DID THAT ACTUALLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. AND THAT, OF COURSE, HAPPENED IN 2023 AFTER PRODUCING A 27 MILLION IN PROCEEDS, WHICH WAS A REALLY GOOD HIT FOR THE CITY. AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. TAD NUMBER TWO IS THE CORRIDORS. TAD, WHICH RUNS ALONG THE CLEVELAND AVENUE CORRIDOR ITSELF, ALSO INCLUDES DOWNTOWN PORTIONS OF DOWNTOWN, I SHOULD SAY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THAT TAD IS ACTIVE AND IS RISING IN ACCESS VALUE. SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. SO THIS FREED CAPACITY AND VALIDATED THE MODEL'S SUCCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WERE ABLE TO RETIRE THAT AHEAD OF TIME AND WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THE BENEFITS OF THOSE FRUITS THAT WERE THAT WERE ENJOYED BROWNFIELD GRANTS. THE DOWNTOWN COMMON SITE IS A CATALYTIC SITE FOR US. AND IT IS OUR CORE FOCUS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON DOWNTOWN. AT THIS POINT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR BROWNFIELD INITIATIVES. [00:50:02] WE'VE DONE SOME REMEDIATION ON THAT SITE EIGHT POINT ACRE, EIGHT ACRE SITE. WE'VE DONE PHASE ONE, TWO AND THREE ON THE COMMON SITE. AND WE'RE NOW GETTING READY TO DO A TANK EXCAVATION ON PARCEL NUMBER SEVEN. IT'S THE LAST REMAINING SITE. LAST REMAINING PARCEL THAT HAS AN UNDERGROUND TANK THERE. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE JUST SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH ATLAS TECHNICAL CONSULTING. THEY'RE BASED OUT OF CALIFORNIA. THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, MIND MATCH. SO DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF DEEMED IT NECESSARY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD SO MUCH EXPERIENCE NOW AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE SITE TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS BECAUSE IT WOULD KEEP US MORE OR LESS ON TRACK WITH TRYING TO GET THAT THAT RESOLVED AS WELL AS WE WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO REMEDIATION WORK WHERE NECESSARY. BUT SOME OF THE OTHER SITES, OF COURSE, THAT WE DID SOME OF THE BROWNFIELD EFFORTS INCLUDED ATLANTA UTILITY WORKS OVER ON R MARTIN STREET, OF COURSE, WOODBURY AVENUE FOUR POINT ACRE, 4.2 ACRE SITE OVER THERE THAT THE CITY ACQUIRED SOME YEARS AGO AS WELL AS SOME PROPERTY JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAKE. THAT IS A SMALL PARK THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS. AND SO WE DID SOME REMEDIATION WORK OVER THERE AND FOUND THERE TO BE NO CONTAMINATION. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. OF COURSE, OUR CORRIDOR PLANNING WE DID A WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY SOME A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHICH PROVIDES A MULTI-CITY TRI CITIES FRAMEWORK FOR MOBILITY, FLOODING, FIXES AND REDEVELOPMENT OF FOCUSED AREAS. NOW THAT OUT OF THAT STUDY COMES THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT PATHS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AS IT LEADS EASTBOUND TOWARDS THE 55.7 ACRE SITE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT THERE ON SYLVAN ROAD. THAT IS A PROJECT THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT LATER IN MY PRESENTATION. BUT THIS CORRIDOR IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE OF THE STUDY THAT HAS BEEN DONE. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE FLINT RIVER TRIBUTARY RUNS ALONG THAT PATH. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS ECOSYSTEM THERE. THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIVING FOR THE THE PEOPLE, THE CITIZENS OF ALL THREE CITIES, BECAUSE THAT CORRIDOR CONNECTS COLLEGE PARK, EAST POINT AND HAPEVILLE. SO THAT IS PART OF OUR TEN YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN MOVING FORWARD. AND SO WE WILL BE TAKING A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT EFFORT AS WE GET MORE SO INTO OUR PROGRAM, SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENT'S PRIORITIES. WELL, THE BIG ONE IS THE FACADE GRANT PROGRAM. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. WE HAVE PUT OUT ALL OF OUR LETTERS TO THE AWARDEES, COMMUNICATING TO THEM THAT THEY WERE SELECTED AS AN AWARDEE. WE PUT IN THE COMMUNICATIONS LETTERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS OF THE AMOUNT OF THEIR THEIR GRANT AWARD. AND SO THIS WEEK, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING OUT THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS TO THOSE AWARDEES. NOW, WHAT IT WILL REQUIRE FROM THEM IS THAT THEY LOOK IT OVER, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THEY'VE BEEN GRANTED. THEY SIGNED THAT, THEY SEND IT BACK TO US. THE MAYOR WILL SIGN IT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE WILL GET THAT BACK TO THEM. AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS THEY ARE FREE AND OFF TO THE RACES WITH STARTING THEIR PROJECT. SO THAT IS FRONT AND CENTER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME AND OF COURSE NUMBER TWO, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING FEVEROUSLY ON THE TEN YEAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PLAN ITSELF. THE IMPLEMENTATIONS, MOST OF THE IMPLEMENTATIONS REALLY GETS US INTO THE THROES OF THE PLAN STARTING NEXT YEAR. BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO THIS YEAR, THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR AS WELL. ONE OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDE THAT WE DO A A LUNCH AND LEARN PROMOTING AND MARKETING OUR CITY. IN TERMS OF A, A GREAT PLACE TO DO BUSINESS CREATE JOBS, LIVE AND PLAY AND ALL OF THE OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS THAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE REALM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THE ENROLLMENT THAT, THAT WE HAVE FOR GETTING AT LEAST THE NEXT 12 MONTHS OF WHAT WE'LL BE DOING ON THAT PLAN WAS WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU, I THINK, BACK IN JUNE. AND SO WE'VE COMPLETED THE FIRST MONTH OF THAT AS WE ARE NOW INTO THE PLAN ITSELF THE THE PLACEMAKING EFFORT THAT WE WILL ALSO BE PURSUING INVOLVES OUR [00:55:10] TOD INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN DOWNTOWN. YOU MAY RECALL, BACK IN 2022, I BELIEVE WE DID A REIMAGINING, RE-ENVISIONING THE THE LOOK AND FEEL OF DOWNTOWN EASTPOINTE. AND THIS WAS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BETTER BLOCK FOUNDATION, BASED OUT OF FORT WORTH, TEXAS. IT WAS A GRANT THAT WAS FUNDED TO US BY MICROSOFT. AND THEY WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE NONPROFIT IN TERMS OF THAT EFFORT. SO NOW WE'RE BEGINNING TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY APPLY THAT WE WE DEEM FROM THAT EXPERIENCE. YOU MAY RECALL THAT IT WAS A THREE WEEKEND, A THREE DAY WEEKEND. THERE WAS A LOT THAT CAME OUT OF IT IN TERMS OF WAYFINDING PARK CONFIGURATION, IN TERMS OF PARKLETS AND CAFES, SIDEWALK CAFES AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE THAT YOU MIGHT SEE AND HAVE PARTAKE, PARTAKEN IN CAME OUT OF THAT INITIATIVE. ONE OF THOSE IS OUR EATS AND BEATS INITIATIVE THAT HAPPENS EACH THURSDAY EVENING DOWNTOWN AT PIZZA ON THEIR OUTDOOR PATIO. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE ALSO ADDED A MUSIC FEATURE TO OUR FARMER'S MARKET WHEN AVAILABLE AS WELL. SO WE'RE WORKING THOSE THINGS AS WELL AS IT COMES TO US FROM THAT PLAN. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO IMPLEMENT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY CAN AS WE GO. THE OTHER MAJOR THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND FOCUSED ON IS A SUPERMARKET. AND THIS HAS BEEN VERY ELUSIVE. BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE WE'RE FINALLY TURNING THE CORNER ON THIS. TO YOUR CREDIT COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS, WE DO HAVE A MEETING SET WITH NORRIS GROCERY. THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND. THEY WANT TO COME TO THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. WE ALSO HAVE A SITE READY TO TO SHARE WITH THEM. WE'LL BE MAKING A VISIT TO THE CITY OF JONESBORO AS EARLY AS THIS WEEK. NO NOISE. NOISE IN OR I GUESS THAT WAS ONE THAT YOU SENT ME AND WE FOLLOWED UP ON AND CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. WE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH ONE OF THE BROKERS SLASH BUSINESS OWNERS AT A RECENT CONFERENCE THAT WE CONDUCTED. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE OTHER ONE IS WE HAVE A MEETING ON THE 22ND OF THIS MONTH WITH THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION VP OF PUBLIX. GOT WORD THAT THEY ARE NOW LOOKING AT EASTPOINTE MORE CLOSELY. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT MEETING COMING UP AS WELL. SO KEEP YOU FOCUSED. AND THESE ARE FRESHLY NEW DEVELOPMENTS. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAME A MONTH OR SO. I JUST GOT THIS INFORMATION TODAY AND FRIDAY. SO IT'S BEEN MOVING FAST HERE THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT. BUSINESS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AND EXPANSION. AROUND THE AIRPORT IS A RELIANT ENTITY OR AN EFFORT FOR US. IT HELPS US ALIGN BETTER OUR WORK WITH THE AEROTROPOLIS ALLIANCE. MANY OF YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ENTITY. WE'VE WORKED AND PARTNERED WITH THEM ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ISSUES IN THE PAST. WE'VE WORKED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM ON CONDUCTING TOURS THROUGHOUT BUS TOURS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AS WELL AS MANY BUS TOURS AROUND. AND WE EXPECT TO CONTINUE DOING THAT AS WELL. AND THEN WE STARTED EARLIER THIS YEAR, OUR ENTREPRENEURS SMALL BUSINESS SEMINARS. AND WE ARE CONDUCTING THOSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THERE AT THE LIBRARY. THOSE ARE GOING REALLY, REALLY WELL. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT ONE THAT WE HAVE COMING UP WHICH HADN'T BEEN SCHEDULED YET, BUT WE DO HAVE IT ON THE DOCKET, AND WE WILL BE PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IT WILL BE CENTERED AROUND AI AND THE IMPACT THAT IT IS HAVING ON THE INDUSTRY ACROSS THE BOARD. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND WE WILL CERTAINLY AGAIN KEEP YOU POSTED ON THAT INITIATIVE. MAJOR PROJECTS AND INVESTMENTS IN THE PIPELINE THAT WE'RE PURSUING. AGAIN, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMONS BECAUSE THAT IS A THING THAT IS FRONT AND CENTER. WE ALL KNOW IT'S A MULTI-PHASE INITIATIVE. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUMPSTART AS MUCH OF THAT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. BUT AGAIN THAT GOES BACK ALSO LEADS ME BACK TO WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHICH IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LAND ITSELF RETROFITTED, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THE CLEANUP ASPECT OF IT, READY TO GO FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT AVAILS ITSELF THE DOWNTOWN MULTIMODAL STREET STATE INITIATIVE ALL OF THE ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING ALONG MAIN STREET, WE'RE INVOLVED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS INVOLVED WITH THAT IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE [01:00:02] FACILITATORS FACILITATING THE COMMUNICATIONS ENTITY OR EFFORT WITH TO VARIOUS BUSINESSES PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THAT DOWNTOWN WORK. AND SO THAT GOES ON. SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF DISSEMINATING, DISSEMINATING THAT INFORMATION. TRI CITIES WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR INITIATIVE, AGAIN, MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH TO UNLOCK THE POTENTIAL BASED ON WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT STUDY AND THE PROPOSALS WITHIN AND THEN, OF COURSE, HOW ARE WE LEVERAGING OUR STATE AND LOCAL RESOURCES, FEDERAL RESOURCES, I SHOULD SAY WE ARE USING OBVIOUSLY BROWNFIELD BROWNFIELD RESOURCES. EPA WE HAD WE GOT A CITY WIDE ASSESSMENT GRANT BACK IN EARLY. WELL, IN 2019, THAT REALLY KICKED OFF IN 2020. AND OF COURSE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO GOING AFTER NEW FUNDING MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. THE THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM GDOT IS VERY IMPERATIVE AND IMPORTANT. WE WORK WITH GEORGIA. QUICK START WITH, WITH RESPECT TO WITH RESPECT TO CUSTOMIZING ANY TRAINING THAT NEW BUSINESS IS COMING INTO THE CITY. MIGHT NEED FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. THE MOST RECENT GRANT THAT WE GOT ACTUALLY INVOLVES HOME DEPOT PROJECT. THE GRANT REGIONAL ECONOMIC BUSINESS ASSISTANCE GRANT. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES $1,000 FOR EVERY NEW JOB THAT IS CREATED TO THAT COMPANY THAT IS BRINGING CREATING THOSE JOBS HERE IN THE CITY. SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET $348,000 BASED ON THE 348 JOBS THAT HOME DEPOT ITSELF CREATED. AND WE'RE ALMOST READY TO CLOSE THAT GRANT OUT BASED ON WHERE WE ARE. WE'VE DONE MOST EVERYTHING LEADING RIGHT UP TO IT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO SECURE IN TERMS OF INFORMATION, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE ARE IN VERY, VERY GOOD SHAPE. SO WE UTILIZE WE, WE UTILIZE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE EDGE GRANT. AND WE OBVIOUSLY UTILIZE GEORGIA THE GEORGIA TAX CREDIT FOR THOSE JOBS THAT ARE CREATED IN THE CITY OF, OF EASTPOINT BASED ON OUR TIER FOR EVERY JOB CREATED IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINT, IF THEY UTILIZE THAT TAX CREDIT, IT'S $1,250 PER JOB. BUT THE FACT THAT WE WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY THAT GIVES US AN EXTRA 500 FOR EVERY JOB THAT'S CREATED. SO IT GIVES US 1700 $50. SO IT'S IT'S A, I MEAN, YEAH, $1,750. SO IT IS A VERY GOOD INCENTIVE. AND WE WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THOSE TYPE INITIATIVES. LASTLY, OR AT LEAST GETTING TO THE CLOSE HERE OF MY PRESENTATION SOME OF THE OPENINGS THAT WE'VE ASSISTED WITH HERE IN THE CITY INVOLVES EASTPOINT PHARMACY SOLE DIRECTOR. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE MARKET. 166 MAVERICK MOTORCYCLE ACADEMY 20 WEST STUDIES. EASTPOINT LIBRARY. OF COURSE, AFTER THIS RENOVATION DOWNTOWN. RADIANT FLOW YOGA. JUST A FEW THAT THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THIS YEAR. AND OF COURSE, WITH RESPECT WE DO GET A LOT OF FILM ACTIVITY, AS YOU WELL KNOW. SO SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME HERE IN THE CITY THE LAST 12 MONTHS THAT ARE WORKING AND SOME OF THESE ARE REPEAT VALLEY SHE THE PEOPLE, CHECKERS, MAYBROOK AND DARWIN STRANGER THINGS, THAT'S ONE OF THE REPEATS. AND OF COURSE, THEY'VE UTILIZED A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES, SUCH AS THE OLD LIBRARY THEY'VE BEEN OVER TO A.W. ATLANTA UTILITY WORKS TO DO SOME FILMING OVER THERE AS WELL. MERMAID. ENGLISH TEACHER. YOUR MOTHER TULSA KING STUMBLED. THE GOOD DAUGHTER. DRIVER'S ED, AMERICA'S BEST EYEWEAR. AND, OF COURSE I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER HIDDEN FIGURES. THAT WAS FILMED, REALLY? AND HAD A BASE CAMP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET HERE FROM US. SO LIKELY A LOT OF THESE THINGS WILL CONTINUE. NOT JUST ONE OFFS, BUT THEY WILL BE REPEATS. AND, OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE OUR RESOURCES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF WINNING OUT PARKING LOTS, IN MANY CASES AND OF COURSE, WE'VE RENTED ALSO SOME OF OUR FURNISHINGS WITH, WITHIN THE LIBRARY ITSELF. SO JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THOSE THINGS. AND THEN OF COURSE WE ARE VERY INVOLVED WITH THINGS SUCH AS WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION. FARMERS MARKET. OUR COMPOST PROGRAM HAS BEEN A VERY BIG, [01:05:01] BIG SUCCESS. WE ARE CLOSING THAT OUT NOW. WE HAD FOUR STATIONS, AS YOU WELL KNOW, AROUND THE CITY. THAT WENT REALLY WELL. IF YOU PROBABLY SEEN THE NEW TRASH RECEPTACLES AND PLANTERS THAT WE PUT OUT NOW SEASONALLY. SO EVERY TIME THE SEASONS CHANGE, WE'RE REFRESHING THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THOSE PLANTERS THAT YOU WOULD SEE THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET, EAST POINT STREET, OF COURSE, AND CHURCH STREET AS AS WELL ALONG WASHINGTON, WASHINGTON ROAD. SO THOSE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THAT WE ARE WORKING. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK NOT ONLY THESE THINGS, BUT NEW THINGS AS THEY COME UP IN THE PLAN ITSELF. I TRIED TO KEEP THIS TO TEN MINUTES COUNCILWOMAN, BUT I KNOW I WENT OVER MY TIME, SO I APOLOGIZE. AND THAT'S IT. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION OR ANY QUESTIONS. YES. COUNCILWOMAN. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THE FACADE? GRANT? THE AND NOT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE GETTING, BUT CAN YOU PROVIDE WHICH WHO GOT THE FACADE GRANT? AND CAN YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY WARD? YES, MA'AM. PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION. WAS IT EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED BY WARD? YES, MA'AM. WE HAD THE SAME AMOUNT 105 FOR EACH OF THE FOUR WARDS, A THROUGH D, AND OF COURSE, WE HAD 180,000 IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT ITSELF. SO HOW MANY PEOPLE IN EACH WARD GOT? OKAY, I CAN I, I CAN SEND YOU THAT INFORMATION AGAIN. I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. I CAN GIVE YOU THAT TOTAL. I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE BUT WE WE HAD A TOTAL OF 31. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME BACK BACK UP. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 87 APPLICANTS TO APPLY FOR THE FACADE GRANT. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 31 AWARDEES, AND WE'VE ALREADY PUT OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO THEM LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY WERE AN AWARDEE AND HOW MUCH THEY WERE AWARDED. NOW, ONCE THE THE THE CONTRACTS GO OUT, THAT IS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO LET US KNOW ACTUALLY, IF THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT AMOUNT OF AWARD FUNDING OR IF THEY HAVE KIND OF RECONSIDERED BECAUSE MAYBE IT WASN'T AS MUCH AS THEY WANTED. SO THIS WOULD BE THAT FINAL STEP. ONCE THEY SIGN AND THE MAYOR SIGNS, THEN WE WILL SEND THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THEM. AND OF COURSE, THEY ARE OFF AND FREE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECTS. AND I WILL SAY THIS, WE WE HAD A GREAT COUNCIL BUTLER AND I HAD A GREAT MEETING LAST WEEK WITH SHOPS AT WASHINGTON ROAD, WHICH IS THE CATALYTIC SITE. THAT REALLY TRIGGERED THIS WHOLE INITIATIVE. AND THANK YOU AGAIN COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS, FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD. WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE LANDLORD. WE HAD A GREAT MEETING THERE. AND, OF COURSE COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS AND I MET AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THAT ALSO. BUT YES. SO ONCE WE GET THE THOSE THOSE CONTRACTS BACK COUNCILWOMAN WE WILL BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU, BUT ALSO POST THAT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. SO YOU HAVEN'T SO CAN YOU SO YOU'VE SELECTED THE PEOPLE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. WE HAD AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE THAT WENT THROUGH EACH OF THE APPLICATIONS. SO YOU COULD SO YOU COULD POSSIBLY STILL SHARE BECAUSE YOU SELECTED. AND IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO TAKE IT. YES, MA'AM. WE CAN FIND OUT. BUT I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IN EACH WARD. RIGHT. WAS CHOSEN? YES, MA'AM. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EQUALLY SHARED, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE PLAZAS. YES, MA'AM. REALLY NEEDED. WHO REALLY WANTS TO FIX UP THE AREA? ABSOLUTELY. YES, MA'AM. I'LL. I'LL SEND THAT INFORMATION TO YOU AGAIN ON TOMORROW. OKAY. BE MY FIRST RULE OF BUSINESS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I MEAN, I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, WHERE WE ARE WITH GROCERY STORES, WHERE WE ARE WITH JUST HAVING THOSE PLACES OF COMFORT THAT YOU CAN GO TO. AND I JUST FELT THAT THIS PRESENTATION WAS NECESSARY TO SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS I WAS HOPING JUST TO HEAR ABOUT THE NEW PROJECTS. YES, MA'AM. BUSINESSES OR INVESTMENTS THAT HAVE COME INTO OUR CITY SINCE JANUARY UP UNTIL PRESENT. YOU GAVE US THAT SNAPSHOT? YES, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, MR. CITY MANAGER, BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO EASTPOINT. JUST SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT INFORMS THE RESIDENTS AND OUR TAXPAYERS THAT, HEY, THESE POTENTIAL BUSINESSES ARE COMING TO EASTPOINT, [01:10:03] AND IT'S A CORRECTION, NOT NOURI'S. IT WAS NOURISHING BLOOM. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. REACH OUT TO NOURISH AND BLOOM. THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. IT'S NOT A DIRECTIVE, BUT THEY ARE AN AUTONOMOUS GROCERY STORE, AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN OFF DOWN IN TRILITH. BUT THAT WAS JUST. AND I WAS VERY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT PUBLIX. I'M ORIGINALLY FROM FLORIDA, SO I GREW UP ON PUBLIX. I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PLEASURE. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME. COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE KEY INDUSTRIES. ONE OF THOSE YOU HAVE LISTED IS FILM AND CREATIVE INDUSTRIES. YES. AND SO WITH THAT, IN TERMS OF OUR LICENSING FEES AND PROCESSES HOW DID OUR CITY COME UP WITH THOSE? DID WE DO A COMPARATIVE STUDY WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS, OR HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THOSE PRICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON PAR NOW, THE PRICES OR CORRECT? DON'T WE HAVE LICENSING FEES WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING OUR CITY STREETS AND THERE'S AN INCONVENIENCE? OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THEY CHARGE A FEE FOR THOSE THINGS. SO WHAT HOW DID WE DEVELOP OR CREATE OUR PRICES FOR LICENSING FEES AND FOR THE PROCESS? SO I THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION MORE FOR PLANNING. LICENSING FEES. WE, WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE LICENSE FROM WITHIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO WHEN WHEN PRODUCTION COMPANIES ARE REACHING OUT TO THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND THEY REACHING OUT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OR ARE THEY REACHING OUT TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY? NO, THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. TYPICALLY, WHAT THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO US FOR INITIALLY IS LOCATIONS THAT THEY'VE CITED. WE'RE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES AND ASSETS ON THE GEORGIA FILM WEBSITE. AND SO SCOUTS WILL GO TAKE A LOOK AT VARIOUS CITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER. IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THEY LIKE, THEN THEY WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH US AND WANT TO COME VISIT TAKE A, A TOUR, A BRIEF TOUR. AND NORMALLY IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SITE SPECIFIC. SO IT MIGHT BE, FOR EXAMPLE THE OLD AUDITORIUM BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME FILMING ACTIVITY TAKE PLACE THERE, AS WELL AS THE OLD LIBRARY. THOSE ITEMS, THOSE FACILITIES ARE OFFLINE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE GOT SO BUSY WITH FILM INITIATIVES EARLIER, I THINK BACK IN 2023 THAT IT CREATED A CHALLENGE FOR US. IT WAS GOOD. IT WAS A GOOD THING OR A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE, BUT IT CREATED CHALLENGES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES NOT HAVING PLACES TO PARK, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET TO THEIR OFFICES ON TIME BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION. SO WE WENT OFFLINE WITH IT. AND AND, AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REALLY WORK UP A SOLUTION. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE EMPLOYEES AT THIS TIME. RIGHT. WHICH IS REALLY THE BASIS FOR THE QUESTION. SO THAT REALLY IS AROUND THE THE LICENSING FEES. SO, OKAY, THROUGH THE SCOUTING PROCESS, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU JUST SHARED IS THAT WE'VE GOT A PLACE WHERE WE CAN LIST OUR ASSETS. SO THAT'S A PART OF THE SCOUTING PROCESS. BUT THEN THERE'S A FEE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE CITIES RIGHTS AWAY FOR THE INCONVENIENCES THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE EXPERIENCING OR THE RESIDENTS. SO THE QUESTION WAS REALLY AROUND THE FEES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON PAR AND WE'RE ARE GETTING ALL OF THE REVENUE THAT WE CAN FOR THE CITY. ABSOLUTELY. NOW, THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE FOR USE OF THOSE FACILITIES, WE DO COME UP WITH THOSE. SO WE HAVE FEES FOR OUR FACILITIES AS WELL AS OUR PARKING LOTS THAT WE REEVALUATE YEAR AFTER YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REMAINING COMPETITIVE TO OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE METRO AREA THAT DOES SIMILAR THINGS. AND SO WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU AS WELL. WE DO HAVE THAT ON THE WEBSITE ALSO. SO WE'RE REMAINING COMPETITIVE AS IT RELATES TO THAT. YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. YES, SIR. YEAH. AND WE WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR RIGHT AROUND BUDGET TIME. OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY, THAT STUDY TOOK PLACE A FEW YEARS AGO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ARC AND KIMLEY-HORN. THAT'S CORRECT. SO NOW THAT THAT STUDY HAS BEEN DONE FOR A FEW YEARS, WHAT HAS BEEN SORT OF THE THE ACTIVITY FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO HELP IMPLEMENT WHAT WAS DERIVED FROM THAT STUDY. SO I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'VE NOT DONE AS MUCH ON THAT STUDY. BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE NOT WE'VE NOT WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NOT DONE A WHOLE LOT ON THAT STUDY AT THIS POINT. BUT AT THIS POINT, I DO HAVE IT IN THE TEN YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. [01:15:01] SO IT HAS COME OUT. WE WERE WORKING IN CONCERT ON THAT WITH THE AEROTROPOLIS ALLIANCE AS WELL AS OUR PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARC WITH THE STUDY NOW THAT WE HAVE SOME ACTIVITY GOING ON AT SYLVAN ROAD OUR OWENS, ILLINOIS SITE THAT CREATES GREATER IMPETUS FOR US TO GET FOCUSED ON THAT STUDY NOW, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR DRIVING CORRIDOR UP TO THAT POINT BASED ON THE ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE SEEING, BUT ALSO THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND THAT SITE, WHICH IS ONLY A STONE'S THROW AWAY FROM WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. BUT THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR WILL BE PART OF THAT. AND SO IT NOW BECOMES A FOCUS FOR US TO REALLY RE RE RECALIBRATE AND FOCUS ATTENTION ON GETTING INTO THIS AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE BASED ON THE PLAN ITSELF. OKAY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY STRATEGIES AT THE MOMENT THAT YOU COULD SHARE. NOT NOT AT THE MOMENT FOR THAT. NOT AT THE MOMENT FOR THAT. BUT WE ARE NOW RECHANNELING OUR FOCUS AS WELL. WE'VE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DRILL DOWN ON THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT WE WILL. OKAY. YOU TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL OF THE INITIATIVES WITHIN THE PLANNING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TWO OF WHICH YOU TALKED ABOUT EATS AND BEATS AND THE FARMERS MARKET. SO WHAT ARE YOUR ANALYTICS SHOWING IN TERMS OF FOOT TRAFFIC, THE AMOUNT OF SUCCESS RATES? AND BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN A FEW CONCERNS ABOUT PARTICULARLY THE FARMER'S MARKET, THE TIME OF DAY ON A WEDNESDAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHEN I GO TO A FARMER'S MARKET. SO I KNOW THAT IN THE BUDGET WE'VE ASSIGNED DOLLARS TO THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THOSE DOLLARS. SURE. SO WHAT ARE YOUR ANALYTICS LIKE? WHAT'S YOUR FOOT TRAFFIC? HOW CAN WE INCREASE THAT? HOW CAN WE GET MORE VENDORS TO COME? ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE WITH US? NOT TONIGHT. BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE HAVE I WAS JUST TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER. THERE IS A SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTION THAT WE WILL BE PURCHASING CALLED PLACER AI WHICH WILL AFFORD US TO RUN STATS AND DATA, DATA DRIVEN REPORTS ON JUST WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. AND SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST, BUT WE USE IT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ELECTRIC CITIES OF GEORGIA AS WELL AS GEORGIA POWER. BUT WE WILL NOW HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION IN-HOUSE. AND SO WE CAN COME BACK AND PROVIDE YOU DATA DRIVEN INFORMATION ON THAT AT A LATER TIME. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE REQUEST. YES. FOR A FEW OF THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT. SO TWO ARE TOP OF MIND. SURE EATS AND BEATS FARMERS MARKET AND SOME OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, ANY OF THE ANALYTICS THAT YOU HAVE, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TYING THOSE THINGS TO DOLLAR SPENT. AND WE'RE NOT JUST SPENDING THE SAME DOLLARS YEAR OVER YEAR, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE RESULTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR ANALYTICS OR YOUR GOALS ARE AROUND THOSE THINGS. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, I CERTAINLY DO AGREE. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THAT, THAT, THAT QUESTION MANY TIMES IN THE PAST. BUT YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF JUST SAYING, HEY, WE HAD A GOOD CROWD, WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITIVE AND AND DIRECT THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN STAND ON IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DATA IS ACTUALLY SHOWING VERSUS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SAYING. SO WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME BACK WITH THAT. AND MATTER OF FACT, I MEAN, I CAN CERTAINLY CALL ONE OF OUR PARTNERS TO GET THAT INFORMATION FAIRLY QUICKLY IF NEEDED. BUT WE ARE GETTING THAT INFORMATION IN-HOUSE, AT LEAST THE TOOLS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO, TO GENERATE THOSE TYPE OF REPORTS OURSELVES. OKAY. AND THE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE, YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING DOWNTOWN. SO THE MULTIMODAL CONSTRUCTION AROUND MAIN STREET, EAST POINT STREET AND HOW THE DEPARTMENT KEEPS THE COMMUNICATION LINE OPEN WITH THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPACTED. HAS THE DEPARTMENT DONE SOME OTHER THINGS TO BE CREATIVE, TO MAYBE DRAW, DRIVE SOME FOOT TRAFFIC THERE SO THAT THOSE BUSINESSES ARE PROBABLY SUFFERING A GREAT DEAL, BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE ANY OF THEM TO GO UNDER AS A RESULT, BECAUSE I THINK THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE A NICE ENHANCEMENT ALONG THOSE STREETS AND WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE THERE TO ENJOY THAT. SO. ARE THERE ANY INITIATIVES THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS DOING TO HELP TO DRIVE FOOT TRAFFIC TO SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES? YES. SO THE MOST RECENT THING THAT WE DID WE PARTNERED, AS YOU WELL KNOW, WITH BLACK ART IN AMERICA TO PUT OUT COMMUNICATIONS ON THEIR ANNUAL EVENT AND TO DRIVE AND MAKE AWARENESS OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING DOWNTOWN WITH RESPECT TO THAT [01:20:04] WE WERE ABLE TO GET A FEW OF THE RESTAURANTS TO WANT TO BE ENGAGED WITH THAT AND PROVIDED COUPONS OR COUPONS OR DISCOUNTS BASED ON THE TRAFFIC THAT WE COULD DRIVE DOWN. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT INITIATIVE AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESS FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO, DO JUST THAT DRIVE FOOT TRAFFIC, PROMOTE FOOT TRAFFIC AND COMMUNITY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THAT I WILL GO BACK TO DOES INVOLVE EATS AND BEATS, WHERE WE PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT EVERY WEEK. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME DOWNTOWN, EAT THEIR DINNER, BRING THEIR DINNER, ENJOY LIVE MUSIC THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR, AND ALSO ENJOY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE MARKETING AND PROMOTING THAT. BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER IDEAS THAT WE WANT TO PRESS FORWARD WITH THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE WITH THAT. BUT WE ARE MAKING STEPS AND STRIDES TO ENHANCE NOT ONLY THE THE VITALITY OF DOWNTOWN. WE DO WANT TO MAKE DOWNTOWN THE WHOLE CITY OF EASTPOINT VERY VIBRANT, I SHOULD SAY. WE WANT IT TO BE COMPETITIVE. AND WE DO WANT IT TO BE AN INCLUSIVE CITY WELCOMING ALL THAT WISHES TO COME HERE. SPEND TIME, SPEND MONEY AND ENJOY ALL THAT EASTPOINT HAS TO OFFER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ROGERS. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT. SO CLEVELAND AVENUE CORRIDOR. DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES OR ANY NEWS, ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN SHARE? REGARDING CLEVELAND AVENUE? YES, MA'AM. ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, THERE IS THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON MY CALENDAR THAT I WILL BE MEETING WITH THE AND OF COURSE, NOT WANTING TO PUT A WHOLE LOT OUT ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET ON AND DISCUSS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT WE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL KIND OF MEDICAL RELATED CLINICS THAT ARE LOOKING TO LOCATE ALONG THE THE CORRIDOR KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE FORMER WILL STAR HOSPITAL AS AS WELL AS THERE'S SOME SOME THINGS AFOOT REGARDING THE HOSPITAL SPACE ITSELF. THAT I WILL NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON. BEFORE FEELING COMFORTABLE TO SHARE IT. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A REAL PROJECT VERSUS A KIND OF YOU KNOW MISLEADING TYPE. BUT BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS GOING ON. AS I MENTIONED, 1720 IS UNDER CONTRACT. THE SITE RIGHT NEXT TO CVS ALSO HAS HAS A NEW OWNER, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS GENTLEMAN FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS WELL. TRYING TO GET THE CONFIGURATION OF WHAT HE WANTS TO DO THAT GOES WELL WITH THAT SITE. AND HIS SIZE IS, IS THE IS THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THERE, BUT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THAT AREA. OKAY. AND DO YOU IS THERE A PARTICULAR PLAN OR ANY KIND OF AN OVERLAY REGARDING CLEVELAND AVENUE. WELL, THERE IS THE CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH KIND OF BLENDS INTO FLOWS INTO DOWNTOWN. WE WE'VE NOT MADE ANY, ANY UPDATES ADVANCES TO THAT AS, AS RECENT. BUT THOSE THINGS THAT INVOLVE THAT OVERLAY WE WOULD WORK THROUGH AND WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE CHANGES. GOTCHA. YEAH. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WAS UPDATED? OH GOOD QUESTION. LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE. OKAY. I'LL FOLLOW UP. MAKE SURE. OKAY. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE REMEMBERED, TOP OF MIND, I WOULD BET IT WAS KIND OF A LONG TIME AGO. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. IF IF WE CAN WORK. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY MANAGER OR WHOEVER TO TRY AND GET THAT UPDATED. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WHAT? UPDATED COUNCIL MEMBER THE CLEVELAND AVENUE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WHAT WAS IT CALLED SPECIFICALLY? WELL, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CLEVELAND TAD. BUT YES, THE CLEVELAND AVENUE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, OVERLAY KIND OF MERGES RIGHT INTO THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY. BASED ON ITS CONNECTIVITY. BUT I'M, I CAN'T RECALL EXACTLY PINPOINT THE LAST TIME THAT IT WAS UPDATED, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN. [01:25:01] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. NEXT UP, 1981 WEST WOODBURY REDEVELOPMENT. [II.3. 1981 West Woodberry Redevelopment] MR. JONES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. WE'LL HAVE OUR EMPOWERMENT. I ALWAYS GET THIS NAME OF THIS DEPARTMENT MIXED UP WITH OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY. OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT. GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS MATTER. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION WE WANT TO PROVIDE TO YOU ALL ABOUT AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND EXPLORE SOME POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. SO THE PURPOSE OF US PRESENTING TONIGHT IS TO REALLY JUST GIVE YOU A HEADS UP SO THAT YOU'RE INFORMED SO THAT IF YOU GET CALLS FROM RESIDENTS SAYING SOMEBODY IS KNOCKING ON MY DOOR ASKING ME ABOUT THIS SITE, YOU'RE ALL INFORMED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE ALYSSA WILKINS, WHO'S OUR PROGRAM ANALYST, AND SHE'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO START GIVING YOU SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND ABOUT THE SITE. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT'S BEEN BUILT AND THEN PROVIDE SPACE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. SO, SO QUICK CONTEXT. THE WEST WOODBURY SITE, 1981 WEST WOODBURY SITE IS THE FORMER TERRACES AT EAST POINT SITE. THIS WAS AN 86 UNIT, TWO STORY DEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS APARTMENTS AND THIS IS A PICTURE FROM ITS EARLIER DAYS. THERE WAS A FIRE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE WAS A FIRE AT THAT SITE. THERE WAS MULTIPLE FIRES AT THAT SITE. EVENTUALLY THOSE THAT SITE BECAME VACANT AND BECAME DILAPIDATED. THIS IS A PICTURE FROM 2012. THE CITY ACQUIRED, PER THE FULTON COUNTY RECORDS. WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY BACK IN 2015, AND IN 2016 WE MADE SURE EVERYTHING WAS BOARDED UP. YOU CAN SEE MATTRESSES. THE SITE WAS REALLY RUNDOWN WHEN WE ACQUIRED IT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE TODAY, WE'VE TOTALLY DEMOLISHED THE SITE AND IT'S A CLEAR SITE. AND IT'S NOW A PART OF OUR 50 WORST PROPERTIES INVENTORY. SO THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE HERE, AS YOU ALL KNOW HOUSING INVENTORY IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW. AND THERE'S A NEED IN OUR AREA FOR MORE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE HOUSING OPTIONS. THIS SITE PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A SOLUTION TO THESE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE HERE IN EASTPOINT AND THROUGHOUT THE METRO AREA. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS, AND ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THEY KEEP SAYING IS WE NEED AFFORDABLE SITES. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HAVING SITES, IT'S THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE THOSE SITES AT A RATE THAT THEY CAN KEEP PRICES DOWN WHEN THEY DEVELOP THEM. SO THIS SITE IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EXPLORE SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWNHOME OWNERSHIP TO EXPLORE AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES FROM A RENTAL STANDPOINT OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH SOME SORT OF GREEN SPACE OR RETAIL OR COMMUNITY SPACE. BUT THE FIRST PLACE WE THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT WAS HEARING WHAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT COMMUNITY. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF, OF OF ENGAGING WITH COMMUNITY YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING SOMETHING WITH PEOPLE, NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE SO ENGAGING THE RESIDENTS IN THAT COMMUNITY, THIS IS KIND OF AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE INTEND TO TARGET TO ENGAGE WITH AND ASK THEM ABOUT WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO SEE ON THIS SITE, WITH THE GOAL OF BUILDING TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY, SUPPORTING OUR HOUSING EFFORTS, AND AGAIN, TRYING TO FOSTER THAT INCLUSIVE GROWTH. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO PASS IT TO MY COLLEAGUE AND SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT A UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP WE DEVELOPED THAT'S GOING TO HELP US ENGAGE WITH THE RESIDENTS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS FEEDBACK. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO WITH THIS SITE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ATTENDING A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, AND A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN THAT THEY WANT MORE INPUT. THEY'RE NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ON, AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING UP ARE TRULY MEETING COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND SOMETIMES THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE. AND SO I REACHED OUT TO TWO UNIVERSITIES IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA WHO ARE ACCREDITED IN ARCHITECTURE PROGRAMS, GEORGIA TECH AND KENNESAW STATE UNIVERSITY. AND KENNESAW STATE UNIVERSITY WAS INTERESTED IN CREATING SOME RENDERINGS FOR US, HELPING US WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND REALLY TACKLING THIS FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE, GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND DOING SURVEYS. AND THEY HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FACULTY WHO RUNS THESE MEETINGS. [01:30:01] AND SO WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS. WE'LL HAVE ONE IN PERSON, ONE VIRTUAL. AND THE IDEAS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL COME. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO REACH OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. ASK THEM TO COME ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. THIS PROPERTY IS IN WARD A AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NEW TO THE CITY. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INVOLVING ALL OF THE RIGHT STAKEHOLDERS AND REALLY GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THIS. AND SO THE FIRST ONE WILL BE A BRAINSTORMING SESSION TALKING ABOUT THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS IN THAT AREA. THE SECOND SESSION, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH. THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GIVE FEEDBACK, SAY, HEY, WE LIKE THIS. WE DON'T LIKE THIS. WE WANT TO SEE MORE OF THIS. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A THIRD IDEA REVIEW AND VISIONING CEREMONY. AFTER THAT POINT, WE WOULD YOU KNOW, BRING THIS TO COUNCIL, PRESENT TO YOU GUYS. AND SO THE IDEA IS JUST TO REALLY HAVE DESIGN BASED CONVERSATIONS AND TACKLE THIS FROM A METHOD THAT'S MORE INCLUSIVE AND MORE EQUITABLE. INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING A DEVELOPER COME IN AND PUT SOMETHING ON THE SITE TO MAKE MONEY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF MY WORK HAS BEEN THINKING ABOUT COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT THERE'S MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. AND SO THE THING THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT IT'S THE SITE IS IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, HALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ARMY IS ABOUT 70,000. THE OTHER HALF, IT'S 37,000. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TOUCHING WITH THIS, WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DISPLACING PEOPLE YOU KNOW, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND SO WHAT KENNESAW IS GOING TO PRODUCE FOR US IS GOING TO BE SOME SITE PLANS, RENDERINGS. AND WE'VE ALSO LOOPED IN PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF ALL ZONING. THIS IS ZONED R3. AND SO THEY'RE ON BOARD AS WELL TO KIND OF ASSIST US WITH ANY CHALLENGES THAT MAY COME UP. AND SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED DATES. WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO SHELTERING ARMS, WHICH IS A PRESCHOOL THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE CONNELLY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO THESE ARE THE MEETINGS SEPTEMBER 12TH, 630 TO 830. I'M GOING TO DO SOME OUTREACH AND FIND OUT WHAT'S A GOOD TIME AND DATE TO DO A VIRTUAL MEETING FOR RESIDENTS. THE THIRD MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 10TH, AND THEN THE FOURTH DECEMBER 6TH AND THEN LIKELY PRESENT PRESENT TO YOU GUYS DECEMBER 15TH. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD HAVE CAME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE YOU SET UP THE MEETINGS TO SPEAK WITH THE PRESIDENT AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. IT IS A SITE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED. AND YOU COULD HAVE POSSIBLY MADE IT THE CHURCH AS OPPOSED TO MEETING THAT SHELTER IN ARMS. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. SO SO WHEN YOU CAN I RESPOND TO THAT PART OR. OKAY, SO WHEN YOU USUALLY WHEN YOU GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, DO YOU JUST GO WITHOUT HAVING ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON? I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE ESPECIALLY AND I BELIEVE IT'S IT WASN'T THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT, BUT IT HAS BEEN ANOTHER INCIDENT. SO IT'S I, I ASK THAT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD BE TREATED THE SAME IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD BE TREATED EQUALLY. AND BEING THAT I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, I KNOW HOW THE CITY ACQUIRED THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE THE OWNER WAS NOT TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY, AND EVERY DAY THE BALCONY AND EVERYTHING WAS FALLING DOWN. SO THEY HAD TO GET THE OWNER IN COURT AND PUT THE OWNER IN JAIL. AND THE OWNER SIGNED THE PROPERTY OVER TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT TAKEN CARE OF. BUT I'M I'M GOING TO YIELD. OKAY. YEAH. I DO WANT TO RESPOND TO WELL, I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUE RESPOND AND I'LL RESPOND. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I AGREE, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CHANGE ONE OF THE DATES TO OR 1 OR 2 AT THE CHURCH. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO CONNECT WITH FRANK AND SHARE THAT CHURCH WITH US, WE DO DEFINITELY WANT TO REACH OUT TO THOSE STAKEHOLDERS. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NEW AND SO I DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY. AND I, YOU KNOW, A WARM HANDOFF WOULD BE AMAZING. [01:35:02] SO IF YOU COULD HELP FACILITATE THAT, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. AND I DID SPEAK WITH MISS BEVERLIN GRANT, THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'VE HAD ABOUT FOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH HER. AND FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS NOT MEETING. SO OUR INTENTION WAS TO TRY AND ENGAGE EARLIER ON. AND I KNOW THAT SHE'S A LONGTIME RESIDENT AND SHE HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN THAT AREA. SO AGAIN, IF YOU COULD ASSIST IN THAT, BUT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER AND SPOKEN TO HER SEVERAL TIMES. AND SO IF YOU COULD HELP US, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME, BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY AND HEAR THE ADDITIONAL HISTORY ABOUT THE SITE. GOT IT. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I WANTED TO SAY THAT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HOW LARGE IS THE SITE? HOW MANY ACRES. 4.4 ACRES. 4.4 ACRES. AND I WANT TO KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. ARE YOU ALL GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT RESIDE IN THAT AREA? HOPEFULLY SOON BEFORE YOU START THESE MEETINGS. ALL RIGHT. THIS APPEARS TO BE SOMEWHAT EXCITING. RYAN GRAVEL, 1999, THE GEORGIA TECH STUDENT. HIS MASTER'S DEGREE WAS THE BELTLINE. PEOPLE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN IT, AND THE BELTLINE HAS TAKEN OFF. SO I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THESE STUDENTS FROM KENNESAW STATE COME BACK WITH. SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OUTCOME. THANK YOU. I I'M TRYING TO PULL BACK UP YOUR PRESENT ATION. SO IT'S NOT IN THE. YEAH, THIS IS A SEPARATE ONE. I CAN GO TO WHATEVER SLIDE YOU WOULD LIKE, MADAM MAYOR. YEAH. SO I'M JUST. I MEAN, I THINK ALWAYS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS IMPORTANT. BUT WHAT IS WHAT ARE WE VISIONING FOR? RIGHT? SO, LIKE, IS THIS ULTIMATELY ANTICIPATED TO BE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, OR IS THE CITY THINKING ABOUT GETTING THIS INFORMATION AND SELLING, LIKE, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND LIKE, AFTER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DEVELOPMENT? YEAH. SO THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, THE COUNCIL, I THINK A PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS START WITH THE COMMUNITY VOICE FIRST. AND AS OPPOSED TO PROPOSING SOMETHING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I OF COURSE THERE'S A BIAS BECAUSE MY FOCUS IS ON HOUSING. THEN OF COURSE, I'M LEANING THAT WAY. BUT IF THE COMMUNITY SAYS WE JUST WANT GREEN SPACE, IF WE KNOCK ON THESE DOORS AND THEY SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HOUSING HERE, AND THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS SAY, WE DON'T WANT THAT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LISTEN TO. BUT IF THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE OPEN TO HOUSING, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE SINGLE FAMILY, WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, TRANSIENT FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANT TO SING, SO WE REALLY WANT THAT TO DRIVE AND THEN LET THAT DRIVE OUR STRATEGY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I KNOW YOU HAVE THOSE DATES. WILL THERE BE AND I KNOW YOU SPOKE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE ABOUT POSSIBLY CHANGING THOSE DATES. IF YOU YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PRINT OUT SOME SORT OF FLIER OR SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN FORWARD THAT INFORMATION OUT. NO DOUBT WE CAN GET FLIERS TO YOU GUYS, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GROUPS, AND I'VE CONNECTED WITH MOST OF THE MEMBERS. I DO HAVE THAT LIST FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I SEND EMAILS OUT TO EVERYBODY AND COMMUNICATE ON AS MANY PLATFORMS AS WE CAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WHEN YOU SEND THE INFORMATION OUT THIS IS A THIS IS A AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SEND IT OUT TO EVERYONE, BUT THE INPUT SHOULD REALLY COME FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY HAVE TO LIVE OVER THERE. SO EVERYBODY FROM EVERY PLACE CAN COME AND SAY, I WANT TO SEE THIS. I WANT TO SEE THAT. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE OVER THERE. AND THAT IS HOW WE GOT WHAT WE HAD, WHAT WE HAD AT THE CORNER OF HETLAND AND DELO, THE THREE CONVENIENCE STORES IN ALL OF THAT, BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE SAID, OH, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD, BUT YOU DON'T LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ENDURE OR WHAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH. YEAH. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU SEND IT OUT. THE INPUT OF WHAT GOES ON THAT SITE SHOULD COME STRICTLY FROM THE PEOPLE. THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT. YEP. AND THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, TO, TO TO THE COUNCIL, WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE WE ISOLATE WHATEVER INPUT WE GET SO THAT WE HEAR THAT VOICE CLEARLY OF WHAT THIS AND THAT, THAT MAP I SHOWED, THAT'S OUR TARGET. WE WANT TO HEAR THAT VOICE THE LOUDEST. BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, WHEN WE DO THESE VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND PEOPLE CAN GET ONLINE, YOU GET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER WHO WON'T FEEL THE IMPACTS OF WHAT HAPPENS. THEY'RE SHARING THEIR OPINIONS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNITY'S VOICE IS THE LOUDEST. EXACTLY. BECAUSE JUST THAT AREA THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD EXPANDS MORE THAN THAT. [01:40:02] BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PROPERTY, IT ALSO CROSSES THOSE APARTMENTS THAT SITS ON STANTON ROAD. IT'S A BRIDGE. IT'S A BLOCK RIGHT THERE THAT COULD POSSIBLY, COULD POSSIBLY BE A ROAD, BUT IT CROSSES OVER TO THOSE APARTMENTS. AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOES AROUND TO WESTOVER, WHICH IS ANOTHER ENTRANCE, USED TO BE AN ENTRANCE TO THOSE APARTMENTS. SO IT IT'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS THAT AND ACTUALLY THAT PART OF THAT ROAD, THAT DEPARTMENT IS IN THE BACK OF WESTWOOD. WESTOVER. SO WHEN YOU DO IT, YOU YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE COMMUNITY INPUT. YEAH. AND THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR TO COUNCIL, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FIRST PRESENTED THIS TO ALL, BUT WE WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOU. AND COUNCILMAN FREELY AS WELL ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHO ARE THE RIGHT FOLKS AND EVEN JUST GET YOUR INPUT. THESE ARE FOLKS YOU REPRESENT, ETC. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GOT THE INFORMATION AT THE SAME TIME, AND NOW WE WANT TO DIVE DEEP INTO KNOCKING ON THE DOORS. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE TALKING WITH THIS WITH RESIDENTS FIRST, AND THEN THEY'RE INFORMING YOU, HEY, SOME PEOPLE CAME TO MY DOOR AND ASKED ME ABOUT THIS. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT? SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL HAVE THE INFORMATION FIRST. AND NOW WE DIVE DEEP. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. MISTER WHITFIELD AND MISS WILKINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I ALSO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS THAT I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT YOU'RE LEVERAGING RESOURCES IN THE REGION BY USING SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE STUDENTS AND FACULTY AT KENNESAW STATE UNIVERSITY. THE QUESTION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE. AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, HAS DISCUSSED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS IN ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WOULD BE THOSE THAT WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED. HAVE YOU DEFINED THAT AREA? FOR THOSE LOUD VOICES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO AMPLIFY? I KNOW EVERY STREET IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, THE COUNCIL, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE INTERVIEWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY, IN PARTICULAR WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE, OF WHAT ARE THOSE SORT OF HISTORIC THINGS. THERE'S CUT THRUS THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T KNOW UNLESS YOU LIVED HERE FOR 15 YEARS TO SAY, HEY, IT MAY LOOK LIKE THIS ON A MAP, BUT ACTUALLY PEOPLE CUT THROUGH THIS WAY AND THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED. SO ONCE WE START KNOCKING ON THESE DOORS, ENGAGING WITH FOLKS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE STORIES TO SAY, HEY, KEEP IN MIND THESE FOLKS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL, BUT THIS IS OUR INITIAL TARGET IN TERMS OF OUTREACH. OKAY, SO I SEE THOSE SOME STREETS BETWEEN CONNOLLY AND WOODBURY. I GUESS FROM PENROSE TO PINEHURST, MULBERRY AND WILLOW, ALL OF THOSE. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEP. ALL RIGHT, SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO UPDATE THE SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE SOME EVENTS AT THE CHURCH. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'LL. WHEN'S THE FIRST ONE SCHEDULED TO START? SEPTEMBER 12TH. OH. SEPTEMBER 12TH. OKAY. SO WE PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT ONE, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES FOR THE MEETING. THE THIRD MEETING. OR IF WE NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING, WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THIS AS A FOUNDATION. BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THE RECOMMENDATION AROUND THAT CHURCH. AND MAYBE WE CAN CO-HOST THE MEETING. THERE WE GO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MADAM MAYOR. REMEMBER? YOU STILL THERE? OH, SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THESE MEETINGS WITH THE KENNESAW STUDENTS BE ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS AS WELL? YES, THEY WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETINGS. SO THE FIRST ONE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GATHERING INFORMATION WITH THE FACULTY THAT DOES RESEARCH AT KENNESAW STATE UNIVERSITY. AND THEN FOR THE THIRD AND FOURTH MEETINGS, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THEIR WORK. AND SO THEY'LL PIN UP THEIR WORK AND THEIR RENDERINGS, AND THEN RESIDENTS WILL GET TO WALK AROUND AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STUDENTS AND PROVIDE REAL TIME FEEDBACK. AND THEN THE STUDENTS CAN GO BACK AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEIR PROJECTS BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK. IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED THE ARMY OF THE COMMUNITY. COULD YOU GO BACK OVER THAT DATA AGAIN? SO THE SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT WHEN I DID LOOKED AT THE MAP OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I PULLED UP THE CENSUS DATA FROM 2020 AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT BLOCKS. SO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE MAP, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP? SO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT GOES A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN HERE. BUT THE LEFT SIDE IS ABOUT 70,000 IS THE ARMY AND THE RIGHT SIDE IS 37,000. AND I THE REASON BEING IS THAT YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTS THAT ARE THE AVERAGE AGE ON THE LEFT SIDE IS ABOUT 65 TO 70. ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT'S YOUNGER, IT'S ABOUT 34. IS THE AVERAGE AGE THERE. YOU ALSO HAVE MORE RENTERS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS MAP. [01:45:02] ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU HAVE MORE HOMEOWNERS. WHAT WHAT DOES WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY. SO I THINK I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DISCOVER THAT. AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DISCOVER THAT IS LET THE RESIDENTS DICTATE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT COMMUNITY. YEAH. SO BUT IT'S, IT'S ZONED R3 NOW. CORRECT? YES. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HEARD THAT IT'S ZONED R3 THIS SITE. I'M SORRY. I WAS REPEATING WHAT YOU SAID IN CASE THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T HEAR. OKAY. YES. AND SO. JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 3 TO 4 OR 3 TO 7 COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH THE STUDENTS FROM KENNESAW STATE. AND YOU WANT TO HELP COME UP WITH A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THAT AREA BASED UPON THE INPUT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. NEXT UP IS FISCAL YEAR 2026 MILLAGE RATE PRESENTATION. [II.4. Fiscal Year 2026 Millage Rate Presentation] THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'LL HAVE OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR, SHANNON, COME UP AND WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL. I HAVE WITH ME JEFFREY JACKSON, OUR TAX EXPERT. HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FOR THE MILLAGE RATE. JEFF. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS OUR MILITARY PRESENTATION. OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 40 8-5 32 REQUIRES EACH LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AN AUTHORITY TO ANNUALLY PUBLISH THE ASSESSED TAXABLE VALUE OF ALL PROPERTY BY CLASS, AND IN TOTAL, THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE FOR THE LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITIES PURPOSES FOR THE CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR, AND ASSESSED TAXABLE VALUES AND MILLAGE RATES FOR EACH OF THE IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING FIVE CALENDAR YEARS. THE ADVERTISEMENT MUST ALSO INDICATE THAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN TOTAL DOLLAR INCREASE FOR EACH OF THE YEARS ADVERTISED A OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 40 8-5 32 ONE ALSO REQUIRES EACH LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY TO COMPLETE A ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE. THE STATE'S REQUIREMENTS TO DISCLOSE THIS IS WHERE IF YOU IF YOUR MILLAGE RATE EXCEEDS THE ROLLBACK, THIS IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHERE IF YOUR MILLAGE RATE EXCEEDS THE ROLLBACK RATE, YOU MUST ADVERTISE AN INTENT. TO INCREASE TAXES, YOU MUST HOLD AT LEAST THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS. YOU MUST PUBLISH A NOTICE IN NEWSPAPER AND ON WEBSITE AT LEAST ONE WEEK BEFORE EACH HEARING. YOU MUST ISSUE A PRESS RELEASE TO LOCAL MEDIA. YOU CANNOT EXCEED THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE WITHOUT RESTARTING THE PROCESS. YOU MUST COMPLY WITH OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 40 8-5 32. GENERAL PROCEDURES. THAT'S IF YOU EXCEED THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE. IF YOU DO NOT EXCEED THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE, NO SPECIAL TAX INCREASE ADVERTISMENT IS REQUIRED. NO REQUIREMENT TO HOLD THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS. NO PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE REQUIREMENT. NO. NO PRESS RELEASE REQUIRED. YOU MAY ADOPT PROPOSED RATE WITHOUT FURTHER ACTIONS IF IT'S AT OR BELOW THE ROLLBACK RATE. YOU MUST STILL HOLD ONE. A SINGLE ADVERTISED PUBLIC MEETING PER OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 40 8-5 32. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT BECAUSE WE WE ARE PROPOSING TO BE BELOW THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE. THIS IS OUR FIVE YEAR HISTORY. AND AS IT STANDS, THE YEAR 2526. WE'RE LOOKING AT REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TOTALING $2,308,436,305 OF THAT MOTOR VEHICLE IS ALSO 3,372,200 MOBILE HOMES, 76,119. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY HEAVY EQUIPMENT. THIS YEAR. THE GROSS TOTAL IS 2,311,884,624. [01:50:06] EXEMPTIONS IS 355,445,676. THERE'S AN INCREASE ON THE EXEMPTIONS BECAUSE THIS YEAR THE COUNTY IS INCLUDING YOUR FREEPORT EXEMPTIONS IN YOUR EXEMPTIONS BEFORE WE CALCULATED THEM THIS YEAR. THEY INCLUDING THEM. THAT'S WHY THERE IS SUCH AN INCREASE IN YOUR FREEPORT, IN YOUR EXEMPTIONS. AND IT WENT FROM 132 MILLION TO 355 MILLION. THAT MEANS THAT OUR NET M O OR OUR NET TOTAL COMES TO $1,956,438,948. IF WE GO WITH THE NET MILLAGE RATE OF 13, THE NET TAX IS LEVIED WOULD EQUAL TO 25 MILLION FOR, EXCUSE ME, $25,433,706, WHICH IS A DECREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR OF $2,739,714. THAT IS A DECREASE OF 9.72%. THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE IS 13.34. THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS 13. THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE WOULD BE 2.53. THIS IS OUR HISTORY OF MILLAGE RATE FROM 2016 TO THE PRESENT. AS YOU CAN SEE 16 AND 17, WE HAD MILLAGE RATE OF 1518, 13.89 19 AND 2013 .45 2113 .25. AND WE'VE HELD STEADY AT 13 FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. THIS WILL GIVE YOU OUR REVENUES FROM THOSE SAME YEARS. AS YOU CAN SEE, 12,000,016. 1612 MILLION, A SLIGHT INCREASE OF 12 MILLION. ONE NINE 199,217. AND WE'VE BEEN INCREASING ALL THE WAY UP TO 24, WHICH WAS LAST YEAR OF 28,173,421. AND THIS YEAR WE WILL HAVE 25,433,706. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT A $500,000 HOME WITH AN ASSESSED VALUE OF 40%, MINUS THE $2,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WOULD BE TAXED AT $198,000 WITH A 13 MILL RATE. THE TAXES ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY WOULD BE $2,574. BECAUSE OF THE DECREASE IN VALUE THAT SAME HOME WOULD LOOK LIKE 487,350. THE TAXES, MINUS THE $2,000 EXEMPTION WOULD BE $192,940. WITH A MILL RATE OF 13. THAT BRINGS THE TAXES DOWN TO $2,508.22, WHICH DECREASES THAT PERSON'S TAXES BY $65.78 FOR THE YEAR, $5.48 PER MONTH, AND THEN $0.18 PER DAY. WE DID THE SAME THING FOR A HOME AT 400,000 AND A HOME AT 300,000. BUT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE FOR THE HOME OF 400,000. IT WOULD BE A DECREASE IN TAXES OF $52.62 PER MONTH, $4.39 AND PER DAY $0.14. WITH A $300,000 HOME. IT WOULD DECREASE THAT HOME'S TAX FOR $39.47, $3.29 FOR THE MONTH, AND 11 CENT PER DAY. AND THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. JACKSON. THANK YOU, MR. GOLDEN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I'M VERY PLEASED WITH WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE REDUCING OUR TAXES AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ADVERTISE ANYMORE FOR A TAX RATE INCREASE. YES. I THINK MY ONLY QUESTION IS CONCERNING WITH THE NEW STATE LAW. [01:55:02] THAT THESE RATES, THE ASSESSED VALUE FOR NOW, WILL BE FROZEN UNTIL YOU SELL THAT PROPERTY. AM I ON THE RIGHT PAGE? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS YEAR, THE HOME WAS FROZEN AT WHAT IT WAS THE PREVIOUS YEAR. NEXT YEAR THE HOME WILL GO AS THE CPI IS. SO IF THE CPI IS THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. PRICE INDEX THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX GOES UP 2%. THE HOME WOULD GO UP 2%. THAT'S THE COST OF LIVING. YES. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE. IS THE CPI OR THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE? YES. AND THIS ONLY IS FOR HOMES WITH OUR THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL EXEMPTIONS. BUT THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO RENTAL. IT DOES NOT APPLY TO APARTMENTS AND IT DOES NOT APPLY TO. AND IT DOESN'T APPLY TO COMMERCIAL. OH EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT POINT. SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS, THE ONLY INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE NOW WILL BE ONLY BASED UPON THE 2% COST OF LIVING INCREASE, AS OPPOSED TO WHEN PEOPLE GOT STICKER SHOCK WHEN THEIR ASSESSED VALUE SKYROCKETED. YES, THIS GUARANTEES THAT THE HOME WILL ONLY GO UP THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, WHATEVER THAT IS AND WHATEVER THAT IS, WE CAN'T WE DON'T KNOW. BUT WHATEVER THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT IT WILL GO UP. NOW. THE HOME WILL STAY IN THAT SAME RANGE. IF IT'S SOLD, IT WILL THEN GO BACK TO WHEREVER IT SOLD IT. THEN IT STARTS FROM THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. YES. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING. IT WASN'T 581. I'M HAVING A BRAIN FART HERE. YEAH. THE SHORTFALL. SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD COLLECT BASED ON THE ASSESSMENTS, THE DECREASE IN ASSESSMENTS. SO WE WOULD COLLECT ABOUT 2.7 MILLION LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT DOING FORECASTING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE MITIGATE THAT, WHAT WOULD BE OUR CITY'S STRATEGY AROUND THAT? ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS OF COURSE, OUR FORECAST WAS A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE. WE IT WAS ABOUT 90%. WE DON'T COLLECT 100%. SO WE COLLECT BETWEEN 90 TO 92% OF THE TAXES THAT WE SEE HERE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, WHAT TRENDS ARE THOSE REVENUES SUCH AS YOUR LOSS. WE'D ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE REVENUES THAT RELATE TO OH, GOSH. IT RELATES TO OH, MAN. I'M SORRY. GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT HERE. SURE. IT JUST ESCAPED ME. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OH, OKAY. SO ALSO CAPITALIZING THOSE DOLLARS FROM OUR SALES TAX RELATING TO CURRENT EVENTS SUCH AS THE WORLD CUP. ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE CONTRACTS WITH POLICE FOR OUR PRISONER HOUSING. THOSE ARE REVENUES THAT WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE CONTRACTS WITH DIFFERENT CITIES. SO THOSE REVENUES WILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED. BUT PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON WAS THE FRANCHISE TAX. ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP IN THE PAST ABOUT HOW DO WE GO ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE THAT WE GET THOSE DOLLARS. SO WE WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT AND ALSO TRY TO MAXIMIZE THOSE DOLLARS. AS IT RELATES TO OUR AS, AS PART OF THAT MITIGATION, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE UP FOR THE 2.7 MILLION DELTA AS IT RELATES TO HOTEL MOTEL TAX, ARE WE NOT LOOKING AT SHORT TERM RENTALS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO HOTEL MOTEL TAX? THAT'S TRUE. BUT IN THIS CASE SHORT TERM RENTAL DON'T QUALIFY. IT'LL BE AT THE REGULAR RATE. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE HB 581. SO THOSE ASSESSED VALUES WILL BE NORMAL. YES. SO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ASSESSED VALUE FROM THAT. BUT THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL IN TERMS OF THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX BECAUSE THEY ARE SUBJECT TO [02:00:03] THAT. ARE WE COLLECTING FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS. YES SIR. WE ARE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT WE DO COLLECT FROM. I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I CAN PROVIDE THAT. AND ARE WE MAKING SURE WITH THAT? ARE WE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING ALL OF THE SHORT TERM RENTALS BECAUSE WE'RE USING AN HONOR SYSTEM. SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOESN'T KNOW IF SOMEONE IS OFFERING A RESIDENCE UP FOR VRBO, AIRBNB OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. THEY HAVE TO ACTIVELY COME TO THE CITY TO REGISTER. SO WE'RE USING THE HONOR SYSTEM, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO THEN HOW DO WE CAPTURE MORE OF THOSE DOLLARS? BECAUSE WE GET TONS OF COMPLAINTS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE COLLECTING ALL OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE CAN FROM ALL OF THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS. CORRECT. I BELIEVE THIS ALSO DEALS WITH LICENSING FEES FOR THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO THOSE HOMEOWNERS WILL HAVE TO REGISTER THAT THAT PROPERTY FOR RENTAL. CORRECT. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO THAT'S. YEAH. SO THAT'S THE POINT. IT'S AN HONOR SYSTEM. SO SOMEBODY CAN BUY A PROPERTY. THEY CAN FIX IT UP. IF THEY DON'T COME TO THE CITY TO REGISTER, THEN THERE'S NO OFFICIAL RECORD THAT IT IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL. OKAY. BUT WE CAN WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS WORK WITH OUR I CAN SPEAK TO CHIEF ABOUT WHAT? CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS WORK WITH PLANNING TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO IDENTIFY THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY. I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT IN TERMS OF HOUSE BILL 581 THAT WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER AND WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE MILLAGE RATE. OUR HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE LIVING HERE, YOU KNOW, THEIR TAXES ARE NOT GOING TO GO UP, BUT WE'VE GOT A DELTA OF $2.7 MILLION. AND SO I DON'T WANT OUR SERVICES TO BE IMPACTED. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN TERMS OF REVENUE ENHANCEMENT, LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT WE'RE NOT COLLECTING THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAX. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. QUESTION. WAS THIS PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING? NO. NO, MA'AM. IT WASN'T. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THAT NORMALLY THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. NO. WE USUALLY PRESENT IN FRONT OF THE TOTAL BODY. OKAY. BUT THE BUDGET FINANCE COMMITTEE DOESN'T GET A PREVIEW. I DON'T THINK WE WERE. WE DIDN'T. I DON'T THINK WE HAD THE DIGEST AT THAT TIME. OKAY. AND THIS INCREASE IN DECREASE LINE IS THAT WHAT IS THAT COMPARED TO? IS THAT COMPARED TO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR? THAT IS COMPARED TO THE NET TAXES THAT WERE LEVIED? THE CHANGE IN 28 MIL VERSUS 25 IS 2.7. OKAY. AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO WHAT WAS BUDGETED? WHAT WE BUDGETED WAS ABOUT 22, WHICH IS ABOUT 90. ABOUT 90%. WE WERE A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE WE MADE ABOUT 90% IN 2025 AS WELL. OKAY. SO WHAT WAS BUDGETED IS 22 MILLION. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS GIVING US 25 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? SO WHAT THIS WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE TAXES LEVY AT 100%. HISTORICALLY, WE COLLECT ABOUT 90 IN BETWEEN 90 TO 92 90% BEING LIKE 22.8 MILLION. LAST YEAR WE COLLECTED ABOUT 24 BETWEEN REAL PERSONAL MOBILE MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOMES. I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO THEN WHAT IS WHAT IS YOUR PROJECTION? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEVY? ASSUMING THAT WE ONLY COLLECT 92 TO 98% OF TAXES. IT'S ABOUT AROUND 22.8. OKAY. AND THEN HOW HOW IS HOW IS THAT COMPARED TO WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IN THE WELL IN THE BUDGET WE HAVE BUDGETED 22 POINT. HOLD ON JUST ONE MOMENT. SO FOR REAL PROPERTY TAX WE HAVE BUDGETED 22.5 PERSONAL PROPERTY. WE HAVE 2.5. LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED ABOUT 2.4 MILLION. SO WE ARE ASSUMING THAT YOU KNOW THAT TREND WOULD CONTINUE. 2.5 WASN'T THAT IT'S A REASONABLE ESTIMATE WITH OUR MOTOR VEHICLES. HOWEVER WE KNOW THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE A DECREASING DOLLAR AMOUNT. BUT WE BUDGETED 900,000 FOR THAT AND WE GOT ABOUT EIGHT, [02:05:05] ABOUT 800,000 LAST YEAR IN TOTAL REVENUES. OKAY. CAN I ASK HOW HOW HOW ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COLLECTING LESS THAN MOTOR VEHICLES? IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREND IN THIS, IN THIS PRESENTATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT MOTOR VEHICLES HAS BEEN DECLINING OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO WE'RE KEEPING WITH THAT TREND THAT, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AS MUCH AS MOTOR VEHICLES BECAUSE WHEN YOU PAY FOR A CAR YOU PAY FOR THE TAXES UP FRONT. SO IT'S A ONE TIME THING. SO WE'RE EXPECTING THAT IT WOULD BE SOME SOMETHING IN THAT NATURE. OKAY. AND I THINK NORMALLY WE GET OPTIONS LIKE DIFFERENT OPTIONS LIKE 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT MILLAGE RATES. AND WE CAN SEE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. SO NORMALLY WE GET DIFFERENT OPTIONS. FOR THE MILLAGE RATE, LIKE 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT MILLAGE RATES. AND WE CAN SEE HOW MUCH WE HOW MUCH WE WOULD COLLECT COMPARED TO EACH ONE. I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WORTH IT TO TO HAVE THAT KIND OF A PRESENTATION TO GIVE US SOME OPTIONS AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT NORMALLY WE, WE SEE AT LEAST 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT ONES. SO GO AHEAD, JEFF, I'LL LET YOU KNOW ONCE WE PUT OUT IN THE ONCE THE CITIZENS RECEIVE THEIR ASSESSMENT, ASSESSMENT, IT HAD ON THERE THAT CITY OF EASTPOINTE WOULD HAVE A 13.0 MILLAGE RATE. HOW DID IT HAVE THAT? YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT. REMEMBER WHEN WE CAME AND MET AND WE SAID THAT WE HAD TO SUBMIT TO FULTON COUNTY WHAT THE MILLAGE RATE WOULD BE. YEAH. BACK IN FEBRUARY, YOU DID? YEAH, YEAH, WHEN WE VOTED ON 13. AND THAT'S WHY IF WE CHANGE IT IN ANY WAY, IT'S GOING TO GO BACK ON WHAT WE SAID. PREVIOUSLY, IF THEY LET US DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR, OF COURSE WE WILL KNOW HOW TO PROVIDE A HIGHER MILLAGE RATE. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE WAY WE DID IT IS. WE PUT IT LIKE THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT WORK. OKAY. AND SO WHEN FOR LIKE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF STUCK. IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN WOULD WE BE EXPECTING TO GET A PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT MILLAGE RATE? WE WE NORMALLY DON'T MAKE PRESENTATIONS UNTIL WE RECEIVE THE DIGEST FROM FULTON COUNTY. AND THIS YEAR, WE RECEIVED THE DIGEST IN EARLY JULY. BUT WE CAN'T GIVE ANYTHING OUT UNTIL WE KNOW GET ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER. SO THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME COMING THROUGH WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. WE MET TO COME UP WITH A MILLAGE RATE TO PRESENT TO FULTON COUNTY TO USE. IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WE CAN DO THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO, FIRST OF ALL, CAN'T GIVE YOU ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET A DIGEST, AS WE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THE VALUES OF THE HOMES OR ANYTHING. OKAY. AND SO REMIND ME, HOW WAS IT THAT WE DETERMINED 13 MILLS THIS YEAR AHEAD OF THIS PRESENT PRESENTATION? WHEN WE BROUGHT WHEN WE CAME FOR THE HOUSE BILL, 581, I BROUGHT WE BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE FULTON COUNTY, I BELIEVE, WITH A WITH A MILLAGE RATE WITH AN ESTIMATED MILLAGE RATE. AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE BROUGHT IT BEFORE COUNCIL THINKING AND SAYING THAT IF WE STAYED WITH THE 13, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE IN ORDER TO FUND THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL AND IT WAS AGREED UPON. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. OKAY. AND AND I KNOW THAT WHEN I GOT MY ASSESSMENT FULTON COUNTY ASSESSED MY HOUSE LOWER THAN WHAT IT HAD BEEN ASSESSED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO THEN HOW IS IT THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION HERE IT IS SHOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GAINING MORE TAX REVENUE THAN WE DID LAST YEAR? FOR REAL AND PERSONAL? BECAUSE BECAUSE PERSONAL IS NOT ON HOUSE BILL 581 OKAY. REAL IS ON HOUSE BILL 581. PERSONAL IS NOT. WHICH MEANS THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT'S IN BUSINESS, ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DESIGNED, THAT'S IN A HOME THAT'S USED TO RUN BUSINESS, [02:10:02] IT'S GOING TO INCREASE IN VALUE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THOSE HOMES THAT ARE NOT WITH THE HOMESTEAD. THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE IN VALUE. SO IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT. AND I CAN'T SAY WITH WITH THE CERTAINTY THAT EACH YEAR THAT IS NOT GOING TO GO UP. I CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY THAT THERE IS NOT GOING TO GO UP AS HIGH AS IT USED TO BECAUSE OF THE CPI. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. TO MY COLLEAGUE TO I THINK THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WE HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE STATE FOR THIS. ONE IS WE'VE FOUND A WAY TO MINIMIZE EXORBITANT TAX INCREASES ON REAL ESTATE. AND SO WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THIS DECISION AT 13 IS SOMETHING THAT SO WE CAN STABILIZE OUR DIGEST AND YOU WON'T GET THESE BIG JUMPS IN YOUR, IN YOUR VALUE AND THE VALUES OF YOUR HOME, THUS INCREASING YOUR, YOUR REAL PROPERTY TAXES. SO I THINK WHERE WE ARE IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY MANAGE AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR REAL REAL ESTATE PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S COMING FROM THE CITY. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THESE FLUCTUATIONS. I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS REALLY MADE IT STABLE. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT BECAUSE YOU ARE BLESSED THAT YOUR PROPERTY, THE ASSESSED VALUE DECREASED SOME, SO YOUR TAXES WILL BE LOWER. AND BASED ON THAT, IF IT INCREASES NEXT YEAR, IT WILL ONLY BE BY THE CPI. SO I THINK WE'VE DONE WE'VE KIND OF IN ESSENCE, REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND MADE IT MORE STABLE FOR THEM TO DO IT ON. REGARDING MUNICIPAL TAXES ON THE REAL PROPERTY. COUNCIL MEMBER ACTON. YES. SO MR. JACKSON, MR.. MR.. GOLDEN HERE. OKAY. IT'S THAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT BASED ON THIS PROJECTION 25.4 MILLION, RIGHT? WHAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND IN THE BUDGET, IF THIS IS THE THE LATEST VERSION ON PAGE 67. UNDER GENERAL FUND REVENUE, WE USED THE NUMBER OR FINANCE USED THE NUMBER OF $26.2 MILLION. AND THAT NOT THE 22 MILLION. BUT ALSO TO YOUR POINT WITH THAT. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE UP IF WE NEED THOSE DOLLARS. BUT ALSO TO YOUR POINT, WITH HOUSE BILL 581 AND WITH OUR CURRENT STATE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RENTAL PROPERTIES. IS THAT CORRECT? I CAN'T STAND LIKE ABOUT 60% RENTAL, I THINK. SO THOSE WILL THEN THOSE WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO 581. SO THOSE VALUES CAN INCREASE. THAT WOULD HELP. CORRECT. AND AND SO TO YOUR POINT, THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL AS REAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WILL GROW. SO THEN OUR COLLECTION RATE COULD STEAL OR NOT THE COLLECTION RATE, BUT THE AMOUNT COULD STILL GROW EVEN IF THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION PROPERTIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CPI. AND THEN THAT'S RELIEF THAT'S OFFERED. BUT I DID JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BASICALLY WHAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND IN TERMS OF THE REVENUE ASSUMPTION ON PAGE 67, IT WAS 26 MILLION. UNLESS THAT CHANGED, AND THIS IS AN OUTDATED VERSION THAT I'M LOOKING AT. WHAT ARE YOU INCLUDING IN YOUR CALCULATION OF 26 MILLION? IT'S JUST OFF THE PAGE. I'M JUST READING IT OFF THE PAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM FINANCE. IT'S PAGE 67. OKAY. UNDER THE HEADING OF GENERAL FUND REVENUE. REVENUE ASSUMPTIONS THAT SECTION. OKAY. SO I'M JUST READING. THAT'S TOTAL TAX THAT WE PLAN ON COLLECTING. THAT THAT NUMBER INCLUDES OTHER NUMBERS SUCH AS I THINK THE INSURANCE PREMIUM TAX AS WELL AS THE DELINQUENT AND THE CURRENT AND PRIOR YEAR AND PRIOR YEAR AND CURRENT YEAR TAXES. WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AT AND COMPARING IT TO THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S THE REAL PROPERTY TAX, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AND THE MOTOR VEHICLES THAT WE IN MOBILE HOMES. I'M SORRY, AS WHEN IT COMES TO THE REVENUES THAT WE PROJECT FOR THE TAXES LEVY AT 90%. [02:15:06] OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, IT'S ACTUALLY 26,000,002 30 IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AND SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THIS IS STILL CREATING A $1.2 MILLION DEFICIT FROM WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED. THE ADOPTED BUDGET STILL HASN'T YET BEEN POSTED ONLINE. SO THE ONLY THING WE HAVE ONLINE IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET. SO ASSUMING THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS ADOPTED, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WAS USED. I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE ADOPTED BUDGET IS GOING TO BE POSTED ONLINE FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS, OR AT LEAST A MONTH AND A HALF PAST ADOPTION. SO BECAUSE IT WAS DONE ON THE 30TH. SO YEAH, WE'RE ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. SO WHEN WILL THE ADOPTED BUDGET BE POSTED ONLINE? AND I HEAR WHAT YOU JUST SAID. BUT THE QUESTION STILL IS THIS NUMBER IS NOT 26 TO 30. AND SO IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE OTHER TYPES OF TAX TAX REVENUE THAT'S NOT REFLECTED HERE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW IF WE HAD THE 25 FOR 33, WHAT IS WHAT ARE THOSE OTHER MEANS, BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO MAKE UP THE GAP, RIGHT. LIKE IF THE OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO PLUS THIS EQUAL 26 MILLION TO 30 OR MORE. THEN THE BUDGET IS FINE AS IS, BUT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YES, MA'AM. TO KNOW WHAT THOSE OTHER SOURCES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET ONLINE. AND WHEN WILL THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THE FINAL ADOPTED BUDGET, BE POSTED ONLINE BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH? WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG IF WE ALREADY APPROVED IT? WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY 45 DAYS IN ALMOST. YES, MA'AM. WE WE JUST GOT FINISHED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION. SO OUR FOCUS NOW IS TO GET THE BUDGET BOOK FINALIZED AND PRESENTABLE ONLINE. OKAY. I DON'T WANT. ANYBODY ELSE TALKING ABOUT 60 DAYS TO PUT THE FINAL BUDGET ONLINE? YES. OR MORE. WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT 581. DID DID WAS THERE OR MAYBE I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS. DID WE SAY WE COULD GO UNDER 13 BUT WE COULDN'T GO OVER LIKE WHATEVER NUMBER WE DECIDED WE COULDN'T GO OVER. AND THEN NOW, BECAUSE TO COLLECT THE SAME AMOUNT, WE'D HAVE TO GO UP TO 13, THREE, FOUR. THAT'S WHY WE'RE KIND OF IN THE CONUNDRUM. WE CAN'T GO UP LIKE THE 13.34 WOULD GIVE US THE REVENUE FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ALREADY DID WITH 581. SO WITH 581 WE CAN GO DOWN, BUT WE CAN'T GO UP. IT'S NOT THE HOUSE BILL. IT'S WHAT YOUR ESTIMATED ROLLBACK WAS. AND SO THE ESTIMATED ROLLBACK SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGH SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD ROOM TO PLAY. RIGHT. SO YOU SHOULD MAYBE THE ESTIMATED ROLLBACK COULD HAVE BEEN 16 OR 20 OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. AND THEN WHEN YOU GOT THE DIGEST, YOU WOULD HAVE ROOM BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 20, RIGHT? YOU'D HAVE HAD ROOM TO MOVE WHEREVER YOU WANT AROUND THE 13. OH, AND WE STAY WITH WHAT OUR MILLAGE RATE HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND THEN GIVE OURSELVES ROOM. AND I THINK Y'ALL GOT TO TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT IN YOUR FOLLOWING YEARS, YOUR ESTIMATED ROLLBACK CAN'T BE HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR'S DIGEST. I REMEMBER READING THAT, I THINK IN THE REVISED HOUSE BILL 92. AND SO. OH, BECAUSE YOU BEFORE THE ROLLBACK WAS DETERMINED BY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, LIKE NOT BY US SELECTING THEM OUT BECAUSE THE ROLLBACK RATES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LOWERED IN IS NEW, RIGHT. THE ROLLBACK RATE HAS ALWAYS BEEN LOWER THAN 13. BUT NOW WITH THE NEW LAW WE GET TO PICK THE NUMBER AND BASED UPON THE NUMBER WE PICKED. BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING WHY THE ROLLBACK WAS 13. BECAUSE IT'S NEVER BEEN. IT WAS LIKE 12 SOMETHING LAST TIME. 11, 11, 11. SOMETIMES IT'S 11.5. YEAH. IN THE PAST 12. RIGHT. IN THE PAST. AND BUT BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT CHANGES IN THE WAY THEY CALCULATED IT WENT UP. IT ACTUALLY JUST STAYED AT 13 FOR US. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE IT'S HIGHER. BUT WE WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO USE 13. [02:20:02] YEAH. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE CHOSE THE NUMBER BECAUSE THE LAW HAS CHANGED AND NOW THE ROLLBACK ISN'T CALCULATED LIKE IT'S BEEN CALCULATED IN THE PAST. BECAUSE IN THE PAST OUR 13 HAS BEEN ABOVE THE MILLAGE. THE ROLLBACK RATE. YES. WHICH IS ALTHOUGH IT WAS THE SAME NUMBER, IT WAS A TAX INCREASE BECAUSE IT WAS ABOVE THE ROLLBACK RATE. YES. I WAS WONDERING HOW WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE ROLLBACK RATE IS HIGHER THAN OUR MILLAGE RATE, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER WE CHOSE, NOT BECAUSE OF THE CALCULATION. AND YOU HAD TO DO IT EARLY, RIGHT? WE HAD EARLIER THAN YOU'VE EVER DONE IT. SO YOU REALLY HAD TO GUESS BEFORE YOU HAD THE DOCUMENTATION, THE DIGEST, TO REALLY LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, TO DETERMINE WHAT YOUR ROLLBACK WOULD HAVE BEEN. DO. IS THERE EVER A POSSIBILITY TO RESET OUR ROBOT BACK, OR DOES THE CPI NOW DETERMINE OUR LIKE? THE CPI ON TOP OF THE 13 IS GOING TO BE OUR ROBOT IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT HOW IT WORKS IN THE FUTURE? THE CPI IS GOING TO DETERMINE THE ESTIMATED CEILING OF THE VALUE THAT THEY CAN GO UP TO. SO OUR ROLLBACK DOESN'T CHANGE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT. CAN I LOOK AT THAT? YEAH. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A WHOLE NEW WAY. LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN 12 YEARS, RIGHT. LIKE THAT ROLLBACK IS DETERMINED THIS WAY. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF MOVING FORWARD, LIKE WE DECIDED WHAT OUR ROLLBACK WOULD BE BASED UPON A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION. BUT MOVING FORWARD, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE ROLLBACK? WILL WE BE ABLE TO RESET IT EVERY YEAR? RIGHT. LIKE IS ARE WE LOCKED AT 13 AND EVERYTHING JUST CONTINUES TO BE BASED UPON THAT, OR IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY AT SOME POINT TO RESET BASED UPON ACTUAL NUMBERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT UP, MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX. MR. JONES. OH QUESTION. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? SO WE ONLY HAVE TO HAVE, BASED ON YOUR THEME, THIS IS A DECREASE FROM THE ROLLBACK. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING. I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT WE CAN COME BACK ON SEPTEMBER THE 2ND FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES. OKAY. SO YOU ALL ARE ADVERTISE IT FOR THAT. YES. YES. WE'RE GOING TO ADVERTISE IT TOMORROW. OKAY. IF THAT'S WHAT IF THAT'S TIMELY ENOUGH. THAT IS. THAT'S A TUESDAY, RIGHT? CORRECT. BECAUSE THE MONDAY IS LABOR DAY. YES. SEPTEMBER THE 2ND. OKAY. SEPTEMBER 2ND WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. JONES? YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. [II.5. Municipal Option Sales Tax (MOST)] I'LL HAVE OUR WATER RESOURCES DIRECTOR, MELISSA ECHEVARRIA, COME UP AND WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX, I'M SORRY. REFERS TO THE TAX IN WHICH EASTPOINT REFERENDUM PASSED WITH 69.98% OF RESIDENTS VOTES. DURING THE GENERAL PRIMARY ELECTION HELD MAY 24TH, 2022, THIS REFERENDUM APPROVED A 1% SALES TAX ALLOCATION FOR FOUR YEARS THAT WILL PROVIDE AN ESTIMATED 30 MILLION TO FUND CRITICAL WATER SEWER IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE HAS OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED THE CITY OF EASTPOINT THAT THE 1% MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX, DEDICATED TO WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE DISCONTINUED EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. THE TAX WAS INITIALLY IMPLEMENTED AND ALLOWED ON SEPTEMBER THE 1ST, 2022, SO THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED GENERATING REVENUES. TO DATE, WE HAVE COLLECTED $17,016,755.69. IT. WE HAVE UTILIZED $11,080,548.76. THE DIFFERENCE IS, WE HAVE JUST BEGUN FISCAL YEAR 2026, AND WE HAVE NOT USED THE CAPITAL BUDGET YET. SO WE WILL FULLY UTILIZE THE 17 MILLION. SO OUR SYSTEM STILL NEEDS QUITE A BIT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND REPAIRS. I HAVE SOME PHOTOS AND PICTURES. EVER SINCE 2022, THERE HAS BEEN A CONTRACTOR INSTALLING AND REPAIRING SEWER LINES AND WATER LINES IN THE CITY. EVERY DAY WE HAVE CONTRACTORS REHABILITATING OUR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. [02:25:04] I HAVE PLACED A LIST OF PROJECTS, THE STREETS, THE TYPE OF PROJECT AND THE FUNDING SOURCE. HOW WE HAVE UTILIZED THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX SINCE 2022. YOU SEE PHASE ONE. WE WILL SCROLL TO PHASE TWO. PHASE THREE. AND NOW WE ARE IN PHASE FOUR. AND THIS YEAR WE WILL BE AT THE END OF THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX. AT PHASE FIVE, WE AVERAGE ABOUT $544,000 PER MONTH FROM SALES TAX FROM THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX. WITH THE SUCCESSFUL ACQUISITION OF FUNDING THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX, THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE PRIMARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAS BEEN THE REPLACEMENT OF AGING CRITICAL WATER AND SEWER LINES. THIS ESSENTIAL UPGRADE ENSURES A MORE RELIABLE AND EFFICIENT WATER SYSTEM. THIS IS REDUCING THE LEAKS AND BREAKS THAT CAN LEAD TO MAJOR SERVICE INTERRUPTIONS. PRIOR TO THE MOST BEING IMPLEMENTED AND ADOPTED. WE AVERAGED ONE WATER MAIN BREAK PER WEEK AND NOW WE ARE GOING INTO PROBABLY HAVING ONE PER MONTH. SO WE HAVE ALLOCATED THE PRIORITY STREETS, WHICH IS USUALLY RIGHT NOW. IT DIFFERS BASED OFF OF LOCATION, BUT ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACK AND WARDS A AND B HAVE THE MOST UNDERSIDES, INEFFICIENT AND DEGRADED WATER AND SEWER LINES IN THE CITY. WE HAVE PROVIDED REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS OF WATER AND SEWER PUMPS. WE HAVE PRIORITIZED THAT. THIS PROACTIVE APPROACH HAS ENHANCED THE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY OF THE SYSTEM, MINIMIZING DOWNTIME AND ENSURING CONSISTENT SERVICE DELIVERY TO THE COMMUNITY. THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WAS BUILT IN 1950, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE WING THAT HAS BEEN REMODELED. IT HAS UNDERGONE SIGNIFICANT REMODELING TO MEET COMPLIANCE STANDARDS WITH GEORGIA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DIVISION, AND THIS INCLUDES UPDATES AND ENHANCEMENTS THAT MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLANT IS OPERATING AT ITS PEAK EFFICIENCY AND PROVIDING SAFE AND CLEAN DRINKING WATER TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO FOR US, COMPLIANCE AND REGULATIONS ARE CRUCIAL TO ADDRESS THE PRESSING ISSUES OF PFAS PER AND POLYFLUOROALKYL SUBSTANCES. WE HAVE INVESTED A HALF $1 MILLION OF THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX IN GRANULATED ACTIVATED CARBON FILTERS. AS OF APRIL OF THIS YEAR, AHEAD OF THE 2029 DEADLINE, OUR SYSTEM IS REPORTING NON-DETECTABLE LIMITS OF SIX PFAS. SO WE ARE IN 100% IN COMPLIANCE ABOVE THE 2029 DEADLINE. THE COMBINED EFFORTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE HAVE LED TO A NOTICEABLE REDUCTION IN OUR WATER OUTAGES AND ALSO OUR SEWER OVERFLOWS. PRIOR TO THE MOST, WE WERE GETTING FINED BY EPD BECAUSE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SEWER OVERFLOWS THAT WAS TARGETING AND REACHING OUR WATERSHEDS. THIS NOT ONLY IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO REDUCES THE RISK OF ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE IN OUR ASSOCIATED FINES. THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT, THROUGH STRATEGIC USE OF THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX FUNDING, HAS MADE SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS IN MODERNIZING AND MAINTAINING OUR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THESE EFFORTS REFLECT OUR COMMITMENT TO PROVIDING RELIABLE, SAFE AND COMPLIANT WATER SERVICES AND SEWER SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO MY REQUEST FOR YOU TODAY IS TO SEE IF MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE OKAY WITH US RENEWING AND POSSIBLY THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX. SO DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS WITH THE STATE LOBBYISTS. AND ALSO, SINCE YOU GARNERED SUPPORT IN THE TRI CITIES AREA, YOU WOULD NEED TO DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF HYATTSVILLE AND COLLEGE PARK TO JOIN FORCES IN THIS EFFORT. SO, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH THAT. BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN RIGHT NOW. OPEN WITH SOME UPDATES FROM HAPEVILLE AND COLLEGE PARK. COLLEGE PARK ACTUALLY HAD TO GET THEIR MOST REAUTHORIZED LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEIRS WASN'T BASED ON YEARS. IT WAS BASED WAS BASED ON AN ESTIMATED $15 MILLION. AND THEY THEY WERE COLLECTED THAT WITHIN 18 MONTHS. SO THEY'VE ALREADY REAUTHORIZED AS OF LAST YEAR. AND THEN I GOT THAT INFORMATION FROM MAYOR MOTLEY BROOM. AND THEN HAPEVILLE ADOPTED A RESOLUTION WHICH MAYOR HALLMAN SHARED WITH ME ON JULY 15TH OF THIS YEAR. SO I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THIS ON THE NOVEMBER 4TH REFERENDUM BALLOT AS A REFERENDUM. AND. THE DEADLINE TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE COUNTY [02:30:07] FOR THE NOVEMBER 4TH BALLOT IS MONDAY, AUGUST THE 18TH. AND SO THE STATE LOBBYIST INDICATES THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY TRY AND DO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T GET TO REAUTHORIZE IT. THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO APPROVE THE REFERENDUM. AGAIN, WE GET TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AND SAY WE WANT IT ON THE BALLOT. AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THE LOBBYIST IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO NOVEMBER IF WE CAN, BECAUSE IN THE EVENT SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN, WE'D ALSO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY NEXT YEAR PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION OF SEPTEMBER THE 30TH. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ECHEVARRIA. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY YOU KNOW, KIND OF GENERAL IDEA OF HOW MUCH MORE WE NEED TO DO BEFORE WE'RE CAUGHT UP? WELL, I WOULD SAY THINGS ARE BETTER. BUT AGAIN, OUR SYSTEM WAS BUILT. IT'S OLD. IT'S AN AGING SYSTEM. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU THE REMODEL OF THE PLANT WAS SO THAT YOU CAN GET 10 TO 15 MORE YEARS OUT OF THE PLANT. WE NEED A NEW WATER TREATMENT PLANT FACILITY. AND THAT GOING RATE IS FROM 20 TO 30 MILLION FOR IT. OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM TO BE REHAULED. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $320 MILLION. FOR SUCH A SMALL CITY, WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF WATER ASSETS. AND ALSO WITH US NOT HAVING A RATE INCREASE IN 13 YEARS, IT'S JUST HARD TO KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE ENGINEERING FIRMS, THE COST. SO IT'S A LOT. I FEEL IF THIS IS PASSED FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS, I CAN PUT THE MONEY WHERE WE DEFINITELY NEED IT AND THE CITY CAN DECIDE FROM THERE ABOUT RATES AND OTHER OPTIONS INCLUDED. I'VE APPLIED FOR SO MANY GRANTS, AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THAT TO OFFSET THE COST DIRECTLY TO RESIDENTS. AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE IN THAT EFFORT. BUT AGAIN, JUST IT'S EXPENSIVE. I'M JUST NEEDING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AFTER COVID THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A 40% INCREASE IN MATERIALS COST, ENGINEERING COST. SO DEFINITELY WHEN IT COMES TO WATER AND SEWER AND ANY TYPE OF PIPE, IT IS EXPENSIVE TO DO SO. GOTCHA. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC, AND I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO FEEDBACK ON THIS WOULD BE SOME KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, FOR GOALS AND STUFF, THERE'S LIKE A THERMOMETER KIND OF A THING. AND IF WE WERE, IF WE NEED $320 MILLION, WE CAN REALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT PROGRESS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, LIKE, VISUALLY DEMONSTRATE WHERE WE ARE, WHAT THE NEED IS, HOW MUCH MORE WE NEED TO GO. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT A 14 MILES, SO WE'RE ABOUT 164 MILES OF WATER PIPES. 153 MILES OF SEWER. I CAN DEFINITELY TELL YOU THE PERCENT THAT WE CAN SET A GOAL FOR, OR WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED SINCE THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX. NOW THAT I CAN'T GIVE YOU. OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK SO FAR. WE KNOW THAT IT'S A LOT OF WORK. AND IT THIS IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT. I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AROUND OUR WATER RESOURCES HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. GET SO MANY CALLS, AND YOUR TEAM IS ON IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE SOLUTIONS AND FOR YOU THINKING GLOBALLY ABOUT HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS NEEDED. AND HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WRITE THOSE GRANTS. AND THEN WE GET INTO AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OUR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM WASHINGTON IS A BIT MORE STABLE, SO WE CAN EVEN BETTER PLAN. SO JUST THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER. MADAM MAYOR. DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR US TO ALLOW FOR THIS TO BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT? SO WHAT WE NEED IS ON MONDAY TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WITH THE REFERENDUM LANGUAGE. I'M COMMUNICATING WITH THE CITY CLERK TO SEE IS DUE ON THE 18TH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME ON THE 18TH. SO THAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL NEED A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO GET IT TO THEM ON THE 18TH. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOBBY FOR THE MOST AT THE STATE LEVEL TO EVEN JUST ALLOW A REFERENDUM TO BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT, THE LAST YEAR WHEN WE GOT IT, WE HAD 60 TO 70% OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WAS OVER 60 TO 70 YEARS OLD. AND THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT AT THAT TIME WAS OVER $326 MILLION. [02:35:02] AND SO WE HAVE NOT SECURED $326 MILLION THROUGH THE MOST. THE, OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS. I MEAN, OUR SENATORS ARE REPRESENT THEY THEY HAVE BEEN AMAZING. TO HELP US EVEN LEVERAGE THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THIS. SO I THINK WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER IS TALKING ABOUT IS PHASE TWO. SO ONCE WE AUTHORIZE THE RESOLUTION, THERE'S WE CAN'T CAMPAIGN FOR IT, BUT WE CAN SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT IT AND ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD BE USED FOR. AND SO THE THERMOMETER SHOWING WHAT WE'VE DONE AND ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE A PART OF THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A CAMPAIGN. I FORGET HOW THEY SAY IT, BUT WE WE NEED TO. PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR, LIKE, THE MUNICIPAL OPTION, SALES TAX RESOLUTION OR REFERENDUM LEGAL CAN GET US THE ACTUAL VERBIAGE AND THEN HAVE IF WE NEED MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON MONDAY, WE CAN GET THAT. BUT OUR LOBBYIST IS RECOMMENDED THAT WE TRY TO GET IT DONE AND GET IT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. SO TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, WE CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TONIGHT TO TAKE ACTION BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SHARING WITH COUNCIL. WE NEED TO HAVE THE RESOLUTION LANGUAGE. THE CITY CLERK SAID SHE JUST HEARD BACK FROM THE COUNTY TODAY ON THE DEADLINE AND THE FORM AND STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED. SO SHE, ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR WATER RESOURCES DIRECTOR, CAN WORK ON THAT THIS WEEK AND JUST BE ON THE LOOKOUT IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED TO CALL A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON MONDAY TO BE ABLE TO GET IT IN BEING TIMELY WOULD BE. SO WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE AGENDA. WE'RE JUST NOT SURE WHAT TIME RIGHT NOW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER? NO, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. SO MONDAY WE WILL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER TITLE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT. IT'S THAT RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE WON'T DO IT ON CONSENT. LET'S JUST PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA. AND THIS WEEK, WE CAN FIGURE OUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS OUT AND WHAT TIME WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN ON THE 18TH. THANK YOU. MA'AM. AND I ECHO THE SENTIMENT ON YOUR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND I FEEL REALLY GOOD. I KEEP SAYING THIS. I THINK WE'RE THE FIRST CITY IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS STARTED TREATING FOR PFAS. EVERYBODY ELSE IS TESTING AND BY LAW HAS UNTIL 2029 TO KEEP TESTING BEFORE THEY HAVE TO START TREATING. AND WE'RE ALREADY TREATING US AND ENSURING THAT OUR WATER IS CLEAN. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER. AND MAY I ALSO SAY I CAN REMEMBER US MEETING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OVER AT THE ANNEX WHERE YOU FIRST BROUGHT THIS TO US. YEAH, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER. NO, I THINK I HAD JUST STARTED AS A YOU WERE THE MAYOR AND YOU WERE THE VERY FIRST PERSON TO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. SO WE GOTTA PUT YOU IN THAT, TOO. YEAH. THANKS. YEAH. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET US TO FILE A LAWSUIT BACK THEN, BUT LAWSUITS TAKE AS A LAWYER. NO. LAWSUITS TAKE FOREVER. BUT THIS LEADERSHIP ACTUALLY HAS US ALREADY TREATING. AND SENATOR OSSOFF CALLED ME ON THE FIRST. HE SAID I COULD SHARE IT WITH THE TEAM. IT'S NOT FINAL YET, BUT HE SERVES ON APPROPRIATIONS NOW AND WAS ABLE TO GET BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR 1.2 MILLION FOR PFAS FILTERS. ANOTHER MILLION FOR WATER IMPROVEMENT ENHANCEMENTS 300,000 FOR AMBULANCES. AND HE'S ASKED FOR 2 MILLION FOR SENIOR CENTER IMPROVEMENTS. AND WE HAVE H.J. BOWDEN IN OUR CITY. SO HE, ALONG WITH OUR OTHER SENATOR WARNOCK AND OUR FEDERAL CONGRESSWOMAN LIKE, HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE. AND SO IT'S NOT FINAL, BUT WE SHOULD ALL PRAY THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THAT AND WE'LL BE 100% WITH OUR FILTERS IN PLACE AND ALL THOSE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. SO OUR FEDERAL DELEGATION, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HOW SUPPORTIVE THEY'VE BEEN. THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY, THE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL RESOURCES WE RECEIVED FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND JUST OTHER NEEDS. SO THANK YOU TO SENATORS OSSOFF, WARNOCK, CONGRESSWOMAN WILLIAMS. AND NOW WE HAVE CONGRESSWOMAN LUCY MCBATH. JUST IS NOW ONE OF THE CONGRESS PERSONS FOR EAST POINT. [02:40:05] AND SHE'S BEEN VERY COMMUNICATIVE, COMMUNICATIVE WITH OUR OFFICE AS WELL. SO NEXT UP, MUNICIPAL POLICY DEEP FAKE AND ILLEGAL ROBO CALLS. [II.6. Municipal Policy for Deepfake and Illegal Robocalls] COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL THANK YOU. SO I ADDED THIS PRESENTATION TO THE AGENDA IN RESPONSE TO A DEEPLY TROUBLING INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND. SO A FAKE ROBOCALL GENERATED USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO CLONE MY VOICE WAS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. THIS CALL WAS NOT JUST AN ATTEMPT TO SULLY MY REPUTATION. IT WAS A CALCULATED ACT DESIGNED TO MISLEAD RESIDENTS AND INTERFERE WITH OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. SO I HAVE FILED A POLICE REPORT. THE INCIDENT REPORT NUMBER IS 25008227. AND I HAVE CONTACTED THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATION COMMISSION, THE FCC, TO REQUEST A FULL INVESTIGATION. BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR LOCAL POLICE DO NOT HAVE THE CLEAR AUTHORITY TO PENALIZE THIS KIND OF CONDUCT AT THE CITY LEVEL. SO I THINK THIS IS AN IDEAL TIME FOR US TO DISCUSS CREATING LOCAL POLICY THAT ADDS MORE PROTECTION WITHOUT CONFLICTING STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS. SO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE LAWS THEY CAN ENFORCE TO MAKE THESE CRIMES PUNISHABLE BY FINES AND OTHER PENALTIES ON THE CITY LEVEL. I DO SEE TWO POLICE OFFICERS. THE CHIEF BRIEF YOU ON ANY. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. YOU MADE ME AWARE OF IT. ARE YOU PREPARED TONIGHT TO SPEAK? IF NOT, THAT'S FINE. I GUESS WE COULD PUSH IT BACK. TO. SO. PRESSURE, MIKE. I'M NOT SURE IF THE WHERE THE INVESTIGATION IS CURRENTLY, BUT THE PROCESS OF THE INVESTIGATION WHERE WE HAD THIS HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD TO NOTIFY AND DO THE PHONE CARRIER AND GO BACKWARDS WITH THE PHONE CARRIER AND FIND OUT WHO THE ACTUAL PHONE CARRIER AND THE COMPANY THAT SENT OUT THE CALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WASN'T SURE IF HE IF HE TOUCHED BASE WITH YOU. I KNOW IT WAS I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ASCERTAIN WHO'S THE PHONE CARRIER AND WHO IS THE COMPANY THAT ISSUED OUT THE CALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH. BUT I DO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE. THIS IS NEW TECHNOLOGY. IT CHANGED, YOU KNOW, THESE THESE ARE NEW. IT'S NEW TIMES, RIGHT? SO I WOULD DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. AND TO MY COLLEAGUES. WHAT TYPE OF POLICY WE CAN PUT IN PLACE, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS COULD BE ANY OF US. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ADDRESS THIS MOSTLY SOONER THAN LATER. BUT THANK YOU, SIR, AND I YIELD. OFFICER, IS THERE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT YOU FEEL YOU ALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INVESTIGATE THESE TYPES OF REPORTS OR COMPLAINTS? IF THEY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE RECORDING IDENTIFIES AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WE CAN INVESTIGATE AS A FRAUD. BUT CURRENTLY JUST UTILIZING THE VOICE TO EMIT A MESSAGE, NOT IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES AS A PERSON, THAT THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS IDENTIFY WHO IS THE PERSON WHO WAS THE COMPANY THAT ISSUED IT. SO IN THIS SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE DOING AN INVESTIGATION, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO COMMENT ON THE INVESTIGATION. SINCE IT'S AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION, YOU BELIEVE THAT BASED UPON THE USE OF COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL'S NAME. THAT WOULD GIVE THE AUTHORITY FOR THAT CHARGE. YES, MA'AM. AND SO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGER, POLICE AND, AND LEGAL AROUND IF THERE ARE OTHER ORDINANCES OR, YOU KNOW, AMENDMENTS TO EXISTING ORDINANCES OR CREATION OF NEW ORDINANCES THAT COUNCIL MAY NEED TO CONSIDER THAT HASN'T BEEN PREEMPTED BY THE FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENT, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION, NOT ABOUT YOUR ACTIVE INVESTIGATION, BUT JUST AROUND ORDINANCES THAT ARE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF THERE, HE SAID, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT UNDER FRAUD. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'LL WORK. SO SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION. AND THAT'S JUST WHAT CAN WE. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, ADDITIONAL CAN WE DO LOCALLY. AND WHAT CAN WE ALREADY DO LOCALLY. SO COUNCIL NEEDS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY RECORDINGS OR ANY PUBLIC SPEECHES THAT CAN BE RECORDED, THAT THAT BAD ACTORS HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECORD THOSE AND THEN RECHANGE IT [02:45:04] AND UTILIZE YOUR VOICES. SO THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH AI. SOME PEOPLE, SOME BAD ACTORS UTILIZE THAT FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. LIKE WHAT MR. MITCHELL? COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL DID IS MAKE US AWARE OF IT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID DURING THAT OR THOSE ROLL CALLS CAN BE IMMEDIATELY ADDRESSED AND COUNTERED WHATEVER STATEMENT WAS MADE. ALRIGHTY. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. THANK YOU. SO WHAT I HAD HEARD IS THAT BECAUSE THIS AI GENERATED VOICE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY HIS ACTUAL NAME, THEY CANNOT BE CHARGED WITH FRAUD. NO, NO, WHAT I SAID WAS IF THEY UTILIZED HIS NAME, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT WAS SAID. I WAS JUST MADE AWARE OF THE INVESTIGATION THAT'S CURRENTLY PENDING AND WHERE THEY WERE AT WITH THE INVESTIGATION. I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT WAS SAID, BUT IF I CAN JUST TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IF THEY UTILIZED HIS NAME, IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES AS HIM OR A MESSAGE THAT WAS GENERATED BY HIM, THEN IT CAN BE INVESTIGATED ACTUALLY UNDER A FRAUD CHARGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHTY. SO SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION. AS YOU ALL ARE INVESTIGATING THIS, SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FROM AN AUDIENCE PERSPECTIVE. AND IF THERE'S NOTHING, IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE AREN'T PREEMPTED BY FEDERAL OR STATE LAW TO SEE IF THERE'S LOCAL ADDITIONAL OTHER LOCAL ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHTY. NUMBER SEVEN, EASTPOINTE FACILITY FINANCE. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? SINCE YOU'RE STANDING THERE, WHO'S DOING THE UPDATE ON POLICING? OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, CHIEF, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR HE WAS AWAY ON TRAINING IN THE CONFERENCE. BUT THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE SCHOOL LIGHTS. THE SCHOOL RED LIGHT AND SPEEDING TICKETS. THAT WAS ALSO SENT OUT THIS MONTH TO THE POWER COMPANY THAT WILL BE INSIDE OF THE POWER BILL, NOTIFYING RESIDENTS OF THAT. THE FACT THAT THE SPEED, THAT RED SPEED IS ACTIVE AND THE TIMES AND HOURS AND THE SPEED LIMIT THAT ARE POSTED FOR THOSE AREAS. SECONDLY, THE HOTEL MEETING WAS DONE IN REFERENCE TO MEETING WITH ALL THE HOTEL, ALL HOTEL MANAGEMENT, IN WHICH WE DISCUSSED DIFFERENT THINGS IN REFERENCE TO PROTECTING THEIR CUSTOMERS AND CLIENTS AND ALSO SECURING THE AREAS. THE CHIEF DOES THAT NORMALLY ABOUT ONCE EVERY TWO 2 TO 3 MONTHS. AND SO FAR THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THE APPREHENSION OF CLAYTON COUNTY'S NUMBER ONE MOST WANTED PERSON. HE'S A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON. HE WAS APPREHENDED ON THE 3100 BLOCK OF WASHINGTON ROAD BY MEMBERS OF THE EASTPOINTE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S MORNING WATCH DIVISION, PATROL DIVISION WHERE THEY WERE ALSO THANK YOU FROM THE SHERIFF OF CLAYTON COUNTY IN REFERENCE TO THAT. HE HAD BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR OVER A MONTH NOW, OVER A YEAR. AND THE OFFICERS WORKED DILIGENTLY AND FOUND HIM. SO. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT TIME IS THE SCHOOL? ACTIVE FOR GIVING OUT TICKETS. SO THE READ SPEED SYSTEM ACTIVATES AN HOUR PRIOR TO SCHOOL AND HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF AFTER. SO IT'S GIVING THE TIME FOR ANY PEOPLE WALKING, CHILDREN WALKING, OR ANY CHILDREN LEAVING THE SCHOOL. SO IF THE SCHOOL IS, LET'S SAY PAUL D WEST ENDS AT 4:00, THEN IT'S STILL ACTIVE UNTIL FIVE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. NEXT QUESTION. AND I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP THE LAST TIME. ILLEGAL BOARDING HOUSE OR ROOMING HOUSE? 2757 DILLARD DRIVE RIGHT THERE. I'VE SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES. YES, MA'AM. AND IT'S LIKE EVERY DAY MORE CARS WOULD COME AND STAY. AND THIS. AND THEY WERE VOTED IT WAS VOTED AGAINST NOT TO TURN IT INTO A I FORGOT WHAT THEY WERE COMING UP FOR MULTIFAMILY SOMETHING. BUT IT IS A RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT'S BEING USED AS A BOARDING HOUSE. I HAVE A BASIS WITH THE HEAD OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IF I'M THINKING ABOUT THE SAME RESIDENCE THEY HAVE BEEN CITED PRIOR TO, OKAY, PRIOR TO THIS, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHENEVER WE'RE NOTIFIED AND WE CITATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER WITH THE RED ZONE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, [02:50:02] DOES IT CUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF SCHOOL OR IS IT ON ALL DAY? IT IT DOES DEACTIVATE ACTUALLY DURING THE SCHOOL. SO WHAT WE END UP FINDING OUT AND WE GOT WITH RED SPEED THAT THE LIGHTING, THE ACTIVATION LIGHTS WERE NOT ACTIVE. SO SOME OF THE PATRONS AND THOSE TICKETS WERE EXCUSED IN REFERENCE TO THAT, THAT THAT SPECIFIC CAMERA. BUT THE THE LIGHTS ACTIVATE DURING THE TIMES THAT IT IS TICKETING. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT DURING A CERTAIN CERTAIN TIME? YES. IT'S NOT ACTIVE. SO WHEN THE LIGHT BASICALLY. SO LET'S SAY AT 12:00, AT 12:00, IS IT ACTIVE THEN? NO, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. IT'S NOT DURING THE HOURS WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE NOT FREQUENTLY IN THE STREETS. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT ACTIVE. NO. INTERESTING. BECAUSE I GOT A TICKET IN THE MAIL FOR 12:00. YES. OKAY. AND I HAD TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR BECAUSE I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, I THINK I WAS AT WORK, BUT IT WAS A DAY I MUST HAVE BEEN AT HOME. BUT THAT'S INTERESTING. DURING 12:00, DURING SCHOOL HOURS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. WELL, IT HASN'T BEEN TWO WEEKS, MAYBE LIKE, BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND OUT THIS SUMMER THAT THIS PAST SUMMER THAT NONE OF THE TICKETS WERE BEING ISSUED DURING THE SUMMERTIME BECAUSE WE DID WASN'T IN THE SUMMERTIME, BUT I THINK IT WAS BEFORE SCHOOL ENDED. OKAY, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHTY. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS, RIGHT? NOPE. OKAY. NOTHING ELSE FROM POLICE. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE ITEM REFERENCE TO THE MOTOROLA CONTRACT. MOTOROLA CONTRACT I JUST LOOKED THROUGH. THAT MUST BE 18 OR 19. OH, 20. YES, MA'AM. THE MOTOROLA CONTRACT IN REFERENCE TO IS THIS A RENEWAL OF AN OPTION? YES, MA'AM. WITHIN THE CONTRACT? YES, MA'AM. IT'S CURRENTLY USED. UTILIZED AS, LIKE, BASICALLY THE HELP DESK FOR MOTOROLA BECAUSE WE UTILIZE MOTOROLA RADIOS. AND HOW MANY OPTIONS ARE LEFT IN THE CONTRACT? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE WE WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. BUT IT'S BEEN CARRYING ON EVER SINCE WE'VE HAD MOTOROLA AS A CARRIER FOR OUR. YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE CONTRACT HASN'T EXPIRED AND THAT WE'RE WITHIN A ACTUAL OPTION RENEWAL PERIOD IN THE CONTRACT. YES, MA'AM. AND NOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE SOLICITED ON JULY 31ST. YEAH. EXPIRED. SO WE'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT CONTRACT TIMEFRAME. SO THE CONTRACT EXPIRED ON JULY 31ST. AND IS THERE A RENEWAL OPTION IN THE CONTRACT WHERE AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS OR SOMETHING. YES. WELL WE STILL RECEIVE ALL OF THE TECH SUPPORT AS OF NOW UNTIL THE NEW CONTRACT IS ESTABLISHED. I SEE MR. DOHRMANN JUST WALKED IN. THIS IS MY QUESTION IS AROUND THIS CONTRACT. IS IT? WE JUST INFORMED THAT IT EXPIRED ON JULY 31ST. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN JUNE 30TH, BUT IS THIS A RENEWAL OF AN OPTION THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE CONTRACT, OR HAS THIS CONTRACT TOTALLY EXPIRED AND HAS NO RENEWAL OPTIONS? GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IT HAS A RENEWAL. SO THE RENEWAL WE'RE JUST DOING WHAT CITY ATTORNEY WANTS US TO DO, BRING IT TO YOU ALL TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT IT'S AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL WITHIN THE CONTRACT. SO THE CONTRACT HASN'T EXPIRED, AND THIS IS AN ACTIVE RENEWAL OPTION. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. CORRECT. YEAH. WE JUST BRING IN THE RENEWALS JUST TO YOU ALL, BUT IT'S IN THE CONTRACT. IT'S ALL READY TO GO, BUT WE'RE JUST. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT? I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT GOING ON CONSENT. AS LONG AS WE ARE IN AN ACTIVE CONTRACT AND AN ACTIVE RENEWAL PERIOD. THAT'S RIGHT. THE CONTRACT HASN'T EXPIRED AND IT'S AN OPTION WITHIN THE CONTRACT. NO, I DO THINK THEY SHOULD COME TO YOU GUYS, RIGHT? NO. SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WHEN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA OR CONSENT, I GUESS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE RIGHT NOW, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS AN ACTIVE CONTRACT WITH THE ACTIVE RENEWAL OPTION, PERIOD. I THINK I REVIEWED THIS ONE. AND SO. OH, YOU DID A LEGAL RECOMMENDATION? I THINK CONSENT IS FINE. OKAY. SO COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT NO, THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION. SO THE, THE JULY 31ST DATE, IT ACTUALLY, THAT DATE IS NOT AN ACTUAL CONTRACT. END DATE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THE RENEWAL HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. [02:55:04] CORRECT. ON THE 30 OR CORRECT 31ST. YES. AND SO JUST FOR YOU, ALL'S APPROVAL, YOU ALREADY ACCEPTED OR APPROVED THE CONTRACT ITSELF. PER THE CITY ATTORNEY, SHE JUST WANTS US TO COME BACK AND LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT. HEY, THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL. IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING WE'RE DOING WITH ITEM WHAT'S THAT? H.R. ITEM? WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT BACK FOR. CORRECT. JUST JUST LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS A RENEWAL THAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT, AND IT'S AUTOMATIC. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED ITEM 19, THE WORKER'S COMP. IS THIS THE SAME SITUATION? BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T SAY RENEWAL. THIS SAYS CONTRACT EXTENSION NUMBER TWO. YEAH, I GUESS IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S THE SAME THING. SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THE VERBIAGE GOT CHANGED, BUT IT IS JUST FOR RENEWAL. I DON'T MISS JESSIE DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE THE ATTORNEY. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THIS? SIS. INC. USCIS. THIS ONE ACTUALLY EXPIRES IN SEPTEMBER 12TH. SEPTEMBER 12TH. BUT IT HAS SAME AUTOMATIC RENEWALS ON IT. WE JUST. OKAY. SO WE'LL PLACE THIS ONE ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE SURE LEGAL LOOKS AT IT. AND THEN IF EVERYTHING IS GOOD WITH THE EXTENSION PERIODS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. EAST POINT FACILITY FINANCING PLAN, MR. JONES. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS WE'VE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR. YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. JONES? I'M SORRY. I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND TRYING TO GET STAFF OUT OF HERE. YOU. YOU'LL BE HERE WITH US WITH THE OTHER ITEMS? SURE. AND I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE ONLY A FEW OTHER ITEMS THAT HAVE STAFF BEFORE WE'RE JUST AT COUNCIL DISCUSSION. SO LET'S GO TO 18. DONATION SURPLUS TOWER, TRUCK AND COMMAND UNIT. WHO ARE WE DONATING THAT TO? IS FLEET SERVICES FIRE DEPARTMENT. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY FROM FIRE. THEY WERE HERE. HE MAY BE OUTSIDE. ALRIGHT. WHILE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM, ITEM NUMBER 31, [IV.31. Council Review and Approval of City of Hapeville Water Contract Extension Water Supply Contract Extension Proposal Overview: The City of East Point Currently Has a Water Supply Contract with the City of Hapeville, Which was Executed on September 8, 2015. This Contract is Set to Expire on September 22, 2025. Under the Terms of the Existing Agreement, Water is Supplied to Hapeville at a Wholesale Rate of $3.50 Per 1,000 Gallons. Request for Extension: The City of Hapeville Has Submitted a Request to Extend the Current Contract by an Additional Three Months. This Extension Would Maintain the Existing Wholesale Water Rate of $3.50 Per 1,000 Gallons Until December 22, 2025.] FAYETTEVILLE WATER AND SEWER CONTRACT EXTENSION. MISS ECHEVARRIA. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. MY REQUEST TONIGHT IS FOR COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE CITY OF HAVERHILL WATER CONTRACT EXTENSION. THE LAST CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2015, AND THE EXISTING CONTRACT EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025. UNDER THE TERMS OF THE EXISTING AGREEMENT, WATER IS SUPPLIED TO THE CITY OF HAVERHILL AT A WHOLESALE RATE OF $3.50 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. THE REQUEST FOR THE EXTENSION CAME LAST WEEK FROM THE CITY OF HAVERHILL, AND SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE MONTHS AT THE EXISTING WHOLESALE WATER RATE AT $3.50 PER THOUSAND GALLONS UNTIL DECEMBER 22ND, 2025. OH, WELL, I'VE DRAFTED NEW RATES. THEY JUST ARE ASKING FOR MORE TIME FOR THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL AND FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE IT. SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BUY WATER FOR US OR NOT. IT'S MORE JUST THE LEGALITY AND ALSO MAKING SURE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT, REVIEW IT AND TAKE IT TO THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND BOARD. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, MADAM MAYOR, YOU ASKED THE SAME QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK, BUT IF WE DECIDE TO MAKE A CHANGE IN OUR RATES, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT OUR PARTNERS? WE'RE NOT WE ONLY HAVE TWO WHOLESALE WATER CONTRACTS, AND THAT'S WITH THE CITY OF HYATTSVILLE AND COLLEGE PARK. SO THIS EXISTING CONTRACT IN 2015, I WAS HERE, BUT NOT IN THE CAPACITY AS A DIRECTOR, THE COLLEGE PARK CONTRACT, I DRAFTED MYSELF, AND THEY'RE ON DIFFERENT TERMS. [03:00:04] I'M HOPING TO EXTEND ANOTHER TEN YEAR CONTRACT TO HATE BILL. THEY. THE WATER USAGE VARIES FROM YEAR TO YEAR. AT ONE POINT THEY WERE IN THE TOP THREE OF OUR WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS AND NOW THEY'RE JUST IN THE TOP. I THINK TOP TEN WATER CUSTOMERS FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. SO DO YOU HAVE PROVISIONS IN YOUR AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD PREVENT ANY FOR US COMING UP WITH A SHORTFALL IF WE HAVE TO CHANGE RATES? NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SHORTFALL. WE'RE GOING TO AT THE EXISTING RATE. AND THE EXISTING CONTRACT JUST EXTENDED THREE MONTHS. NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT PART. I I'M I'LL ASK THE SAME QUESTION WITH THE MAYOR. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. SO WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT. YEAH. THE ONLY THING IS WE HAVEN'T. YOU SAID EARLIER TODAY WE HAVEN'T GONE UP. WE HAVEN'T CHANGED OUR RATES IN 13 YEARS. NO. SO THESE ARE WATER RATES FOR EAST POINT RESIDENTS. OUR WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS ARE ON A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION. HATFILL'S HATFIELD'S CONTRACT IS A TEN YEAR CONTRACT. COLLEGE PARK IS A SIX YEAR CONTRACT, SO IT JUST VARIES DEPENDING ON NEGOTIATIONS. SO BUT YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT IT WON'T AFFECT IF WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR RATES, IT WON'T AFFECT THEIRS. OH, THE RATES WILL INCREASE. I PLAN ON IT. OKAY. YES. AFTER THE 90 DAYS. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NEGOTIATING NOW. AND THEN I'LL BRING THAT TO YOU FOR YOU TO ADOPT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT THE RATES WILL CHANGE BECAUSE THE COST OF TREATING WATER IS CHANGING. THAT'S. THANK YOU. YES. NO. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION? I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A EXTERNAL A NON STAFF PERSON ON ITEM NUMBER 16. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING YOU STILL HERE WAITING. I WOULD HAVE CALLED IT EARLIER. THAT'S THE EAST POINT POWER ITEM. SO WE CAN GO TO THAT. THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN FIRE HAS TWO ITEMS. AND THEN I THINK THAT WILL GET ALL OF THE STAFF ITEMS DONE AND WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEMS. [III.16. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Exceleron Prepaid Utility Software Pilot Program, from Piggyback Contract of City of Covington; This Supports Our Prepaid Metering Program and Enhances Customer Service by Providing Real-Time Usage Data, Balance Notifications, and Automated Payment Options - the Following Cities and Municipalities Have Also Participated in This Program: City of Covington, City of Blakely, City of Douglas, Blue Ridge Mountain EMC, and Tri-State EMC. NOT TO EXCEED: $15,000.00 Initial Licensing Fee and Minimum $2000.00 Monthly Fee; FUNDING SOURCE: Professional Fees.] GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I HAVE WITH ME LISA PERSONS, PROJECT MANAGER. TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE ABOUT THE ACCELERANT. ACCELERANT PREPAYMENT PROJECT. WE HAVE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY THERE. ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ON THIS DAY? NO ONE HAS COME OUT. NO MAYOR AND NO ISSUES BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ADDRESS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, I GOT A QUESTION. I THINK. OKAY. WELL I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OH. COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. HELLO AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR COMING. WHEN, WHEN WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM, IS THAT A PILOT JUST FOR US, OR IS THE PROGRAM ITSELF A PILOT? THE PILOT IS A PROGRAM FOR US. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILWOMAN. YES. FOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I REMEMBER THE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS FROM LAST WEEK, AND I THINK THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THE PILOT BASE OR CONTROL STUDY, IF YOU WILL. SO WHAT IS OUR PLAN AND WHO DO WE GO TO FIRST? SO THE PILOT WE WERE WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING OF ROLLING IT OUT, IT WAS ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS, AND WE WERE TRYING TO ROLL IT OUT TO PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO VOLUNTARILY BE IN THE PROGRAM. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAD BAD DEBT. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, BUT THAT WAS LATER ON. SO THOSE WERE JUST IDEAS OF WHO THE PILOT WOULD BE. BUT IT IS FIRST ASKED FOR THOSE ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS. OKAY. AND AND THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR PILOT. SO I THOUGHT I HEARD LAST WEEK THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND FOCUS ON THOSE FIRST, AND THEN MAYBE MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE CITY. INITIALLY WE SPOKE ABOUT THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, BUT THEN WHEN WE WENT BACK TO REVISIT IT, WE LOOKED AT THE BAD DEBT BEING THE FIRST [03:05:05] ONES, AND THEN THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WAS MAYBE SECOND OR THIRD IN THE PHASE. OKAY, GREAT. AND YOU GUYS, AS A PART OF IF THE BODY DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD, WILL THEN CREATE A STRATEGY TO INFORM THE CITIZENS AND MAYBE ATTEND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IS THAT A PART OF YOUR STRATEGY FOR. YES, WE DO PLAN ON HOSTING A TOWN HALL SOON, AND WE ALSO HAVE INFORMATION FOR IT THERE. BUT WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. OKAY. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEY WERE HAS IT BEEN VETTED BY THE IT TEAM? WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING WITH IT AS OF YET. WE WANTED TO KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. OKAY. THAT THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT I HAD ON LAST WEEK, BUT I THINK THAT HOW YOU'RE ROLLING IT OUT, JUST GATHERING INFORMATION AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT THAT'S A PRETTY SAFE SPACE JUST TO SEE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM, BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE A NEED TO MOVE FURTHER. SO YOU'RE JUST AT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH STAGE, CORRECT? YES. GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE CITIZENS AND SEEING WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. ANY OBJECTIONS? IF IT MAKES CONSENT, YOU'RE GOOD ON MONDAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. ONCE YOU'VE DONE THIS OUTREACH WORK, WILL YOU COME BACK WITH THE NUMBERS AND THE PROS VERSUS THE CONS? YES WE WILL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. NEXT UP. THIS ONE GOES WITH ANOTHER ONE. [Items III.15 & IV.35] 15 AND 35, I THINK. GO TOGETHER. 15 AND 35. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YES. THIS EVENING, PRESENTING THIS LINE ITEM NUMBER 15 FOR THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ATLANTA FOR THE WELCOMER BRIDGE PROJECT. FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AGREEMENT FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO WE CAN PARTNER WITH A CITY TO GET LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY, CAN WE JUST START WITH. DID WE FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE TRYING TO BUY THIS AND GIVE IT BACK TO ATLANTA? YES, MA'AM. WE STILL ARE. AND THEY ACTUALLY SAID IN THE MEETING THAT THEY WOULD BE IT WOULD BE FACETIOUS TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH THE MOU, WITH THE CID. YES. THE CITY ATTORNEY. DID YOU TALK TO THEM? LIKE HOW HOW DO WE USE CITY TAXPAYERS DOLLARS TO BUY SOMETHING AND PROVE IT AND GIVE IT TO ATLANTA? WE WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE DON'T HAVE TO. IT'S NO FUNDING. WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY. THIS IS ALL PAID BY CID. IT'S ALREADY COVERED. WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY FOR THIS ACQUISITION. THE ONLY THING IS WE'LL BE THE LAND, BE TURNED OVER TO US FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, AND WE'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CITY OF ATLANTA. SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MAINTENANCE OR ANYTHING. BUT WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? WHY ISN'T THE CITY OF ATLANTA CONSTRUCTING THEIR OWN? LIKE, WHY ARE WE DOING WORK FOR ATLANTA ANSWER. NOT GETTING PAID. ARE WE GETTING PAID? PULL THAT UP. SAYS DO NOT FULLY REIMBURSE. REIMBURSABLE. SO REIMBURSABLE MEANS GOTTA COME UP FRONT. OH, YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBER 35. I MEAN, I THINK AREN'T 35 AND 15 TOGETHER OR. NO, 35 AND 15 ARE TWO DIFFERENT ONES, BUT. OH THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL CONNECTED TO THAT SAME PROJECT. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AND WITH 30. 35. WHAT? THERE'S IT'S THE ENGINEERING PART THAT GDOT HAS TO EXTEND BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS ENCROACHING UPON THEIR RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE CSX. SO WITH GDOT HAS SAID TO US, WITH US BEING THE PARTNER WITH THE CITY, WE WILL PAY THAT 30,000 UPFRONT AND THEN BE REIMBURSED BY THAT REIMBURSE. THEY WILL REIMBURSE US. IS THAT IS 35 IN EAST POINT? ARE WE DOING THAT FOR ATLANTA TOO? NO, NOW THAT'S 35. 35 IS AN EAST POINT. IT'S ALL PART OF THE PROJECT. IT'S. YES, IT'S ALL PART OF THE PROJECT. EAST POINT AND ATLANTA. YES, MA'AM. WAS THAT THE QUESTION? [03:10:01] BUT NO, THE 30,000 FOR 35. HOLD ON. SECOND ITEM, NUMBER 35. YES, MA'AM. 30,000. THAT'S REIMBURSABLE. ARE WE PAYING 30,000 FOR THE WORK BEING DONE IN EAST POINT, OR ARE WE PAYING 30,000 AND BEING REIMBURSED FOR WORK BEING DONE IN ATLANTA? WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THE WORK FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT. SO THAT'S PARTIAL ATLANTA AND PARTIAL PARTS OF EAST POINT. ATLANTA HAS NO MOU WITH THE CITY. SO IN THIS PROJECT AT ALL, IT JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE REALLY STUCK. I JUST FEEL LIKE THE THE QUESTION IS JUST NOT BEING ANSWERED. WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW LEGALLY WE ARE DOING WORK FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTA FOR PROPERTY THAT'S IN ATLANTA. THAT DOESN'T BENEFIT EAST POINT. THAT'S GOING BACK TO ATLANTA. LIKE THAT QUESTION STILL HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED. AND THIS HAS BEEN THIS CONVERSATION STARTED WHEN I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER. YES, MA'AM. I MEAN, WE'RE STILL HERE TONIGHT, AND I DON'T THERE'S NO ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I'M NOT TRYING TO NOT BE A COLLABORATIVE PARTNER, BUT I DON'T I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND. COUNCIL ATTORNEY. SO SO WHAT I HAVE IS THE 2022 MOU THAT THE CITY ENTERED INTO WITH THE CITY, THE AIRPORT WEST COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. AND WHAT IT EXPLAINS IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSES IS THAT THE INTERSECTION OF THE PROJECT IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF EAST POINT AND THE CID. SO I'M HERE IN ATLANTA, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THEY HAVE DISTINGUISHED THEMSELVES FROM ATLANTA TO THE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE CALLING THE PROJECT AREA SED JURISDICTION, WHICH LIKELY PROBABLY IS WITHIN THE CITY OF ATLANTA. THE MOU GOES ON TO TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS THE IMPROVEMENT OF TRAFFIC OPERATIONS. I'M SORRY, AT CAMP CREEK AND WELCOME ALL ROAD IT ALSO TO YOUR QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR, IS ABOUT THE MONEY. AND IT APPEARS THAT THE SED AGREES TO RETAIN AND MANAGE THE CONSULTANT DURING THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PHASE OF THE PROJECT, AND THEY GIVE AN ESTIMATED COST OF 679,000. AND THEN THE CITY AGREES THAT IT WILL SUBMIT A REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST TO GDOT FOR THESE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING EXPENSES. SO I THINK TO MR. REED'S POINT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WE ARE OUT OF ANY MONEY. IT PROVIDES THAT 60% OF THE PROJECT IS WITHIN ATLANTA AND 40% IS WITHIN EAST POINT. TO MY EARLIER POINT ABOUT THE SED VERSUS THE EAST POINT FOR PARTIES TO THIS AGREEMENT, IT SAYS THAT THE PARTIES AGREE THAT THIS MOU DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE CITY TO EXPEND ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION OR FOR ANY OTHER PHASE OF THE PROJECT. ANY OBLIGATION FOR THE CITY TO PAY FUNDS WILL ONLY APPLY TO ITS PORTION OF THE PROJECT WITHIN ITS MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES, AND MUST BE SET FORTH IN A SEPARATE MOU SIGNED BY ALL PARTIES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SEPARATE MOU EXISTS. SO THAT THAT REALLY IS THE THE GIST OF THE MOU. IT WAS SIGNED BY MADAM MAYOR AND ATTESTED TO BY THE CITY CLERK, AND APPROVED AS TO FORM BY FORMER ATTORNEY BOWMAN ON JUNE 9TH OF 2022. M.O.U. IS THIS. IS THIS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? LIKE WHERE IT SAYS WE WON'T SPEND MONEY IF WE DO? IT'S A SEPARATE MOU. IF SO, YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN A SEPARATE MOU THAT REQUIRES US TO SPEND ANY MONEY. UNLESS THIS $30,000 ONE IS WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO. I DON'T KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER. I FEEL LIKE I'M THE ONLY ONE STILL ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS, AND IT KEEPS COMING BACK. IF THIS IS THAT JUST SAYS WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY. IF WE DO, THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE MOU. THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT IS THIS THAT SEPARATE MOU THAT'S REFERENCED BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T OBLIGATE US TO ANY FINANCIAL CORRECT OR ANY REALLY WORK. IT JUST SAYS WE'LL DO WHATEVER IS IN EAST POINT. [03:15:01] SO IS THIS IN EAST POINT AND IS THIS THE SEPARATE MOU ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR WORKING EAST POINT? COUNCIL MEMBER. SO IN THIS DIAGRAM YOU'RE PRESENTING, WHERE'S THE BRIDGE? IS THAT THE GREEN PART? SO IF YOU SEE THIS THIS YELLOW LINE RIGHT HERE, THAT'S THE SEGMENT BETWEEN EAST POINT. AND THEN THE SECOND LANE THAT PROPOSED FOR THE ACQUISITION COMES DOWN FROM HERE. COULD YOU I CAN'T HEAR YOU. DIRECTOR REEVES, I'M SORRY. HOW DO I. GO WHERE IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S A BLUE LINE TRIBUTARY, WHICH IS THE CAMP CREEK, WHICH IS THE DIVIDER RIGHT THERE FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT AND ATLANTA. AND THAT YELLOW LINE IS THE CITY LIMITS. SO THE BRIDGE, IF YOU GO UP THERE TO THE TOP EXISTING BRIDGE, WILL BE RIGHT UP THERE WHERE THE CURSOR IS THE CURRENT. SO IN THE REDESIGN OF THE BRIDGE AND THE ROAD, IT WOULD COME DOWN COMING SOUTH RIGHT THERE WHERE THE HIGHLIGHT IS CONNECTING WITH THE CAMP CREEK. NOW, AS THE MAYOR HAS SAID I'M, I'M HOPEFULLY I'M DIRECTING THIS CORRECTLY IN NUMBER 30 AND ITEM NUMBER 35, WHERE THE CSX RAILROAD IS PART OF THAT IS GOING INTO THEIR RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS THE TOP OF THE PAGE, WHICH DOES RUN BETWEEN BOTH ATLANTA AND EAST POINT. SO THAT'S THE AREA WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR ENGINEERING ENGINEER AND DESIGN BECAUSE WE'RE ENCROACHING ON THAT AREA. YES, MA'AM. SO I THINK AND, MADAM MAYOR, YOU CAN CORRECT ME THE THE HEARTBURN OR THE QUESTION IS SO WE ARE PUTTING WE ARE PAYING THE BILL, BUT IT'S REIMBURSED BY THE CITY. BUT I DO WE HAVE TO TRANSFER THE ASSET TO THE CITY OF ATLANTA. IS THAT THE BRIDGE IS PART OF THE ASSET OR DO WE KEEP OUR PART? THEY KEEP THEIR PART. CLARIFICATION. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS HERE. WE HAVE THE ONE ITEM WE WANT TO AGREE ABOUT THE LAND ACQUISITION WHICH IS NUMBER 15. AND THEN WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 35 WHICH THE MAYOR IS SPEAKING OF WHERE WE WILL BE PAYING. WE'RE REQUIRED AND REQUESTED TO PAY THE 30,000 TO GDOT TO GDOT SO THEY CAN PAY IT TO THE SEE IT, I MEAN TO SEE IT SO THEY CAN PAY TO THE CSX. IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THEIR ENGINEERING DESIGN. OKAY, I GOT YOU. AND THEN WE WILL BE REIMBURSED FOR THOSE FUNDS. SO I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO. YES. SO IN THE FIRST PART IS THE LAND ACQUISITION. IS THAT WHERE YOUR QUESTIONS ARE, MADAM MAYOR? YEAH. I THINK IT'S JUST WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO HAPPEN. YES, MA'AM. IT'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN CITY AT EAST POINT, ATLANTA AND CITY. I DON'T KNOW THAT LEGALLY, WE CAN PAY TO DO SOMETHING. WE CAN USE CITY OF EAST POINT FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, OR ACQUIRE PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO SOMEBODY ELSE. THAT'S MY LEGAL QUESTION. ON THE ACQUISITION ON THE 30,000 REIMBURSABLE. YOU SAID THAT'S IN AN AREA WHERE IT'S EAST POINT IN ATLANTA. IS IT $30,000 A REIMBURSABLE WORK BEING DONE IN EASTPOINTE? BECAUSE WE SAID IN THAT MOU WE WOULD PAY FOR WORK BEING DONE IN EASTPOINTE. AND SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THIS IS THE ANOTHER MOU OR THE MOU, ADDITIONAL MOU THAT THAT AGREEMENT REFERENCED. IF WE END UP SPENDING MONEY IN AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. SO. THAT'S THE QUESTION. LIKE JUST LEGALLY, HOW DO WE BUY LAND FOR ATLANTA? IS THE LAND THAT WE'RE BUYING IN EASTPOINTE? NO. THERE CAN I HAVE THERE'S CLARIFICATION HERE AGAIN. WE ARE NOT REQUESTING THE 30,000 FOR ACQUISITION. NO. THAT'S 15. YOU SAID THE 15 IS ACQUISITION, 15 IS ACQUISITION, AND 35 IS FOR THE CSX IS SAYING, BEFORE WE RELEASE AND REVIEW THESE PLANS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUR ENGINEERS INVOLVED, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A $30,000 FEE. WE TALKED TO HAD A MEETING WITH GDOT AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, CAN THIS BE DONE? CAN GDOT PAY THEM? AND GDOT SAYING WITH THE MOU THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY THAT WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY IT AND THEY WILL REIMBURSE US? CORRECT. AND PART OF THAT IS IN EAST POINT, THE CSX PORTION, [03:20:02] THAT PART OF THAT IS IN EAST POINT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO THAT'S THAT PIECE. YES, MA'AM. LAND ACQUISITION. ARE WE PURCHASING LAND IN ATLANTA FOR ATLANTA? WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR THE PURCHASING AT ALL. WE DON'T HAVE TO UPFRONT. NO MONEY OR ANYTHING. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GET AN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE LAND ACQUISITION FROM THE CITY OF ATLANTA. THAT PORTION OF LAND, WHICH IS A PRIVATE SECTOR BUT FROM ATLANTA SIDE AND THEN ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS IS DONE, THAT LAND WILL BE TURNED BACK OVER TO THE CITY. WITHIN THE CITY OF ATLANTA, IT WILL BE TURNED BACK OVER TO THE CITY OF ATLANTA, WHERE THEY WILL MAINTAIN MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING BEYOND THAT POINT. CAN I READ SOMETHING TO YOU, MAYOR? YES, PLEASE. THIS IS FROM THE PROJECT MANAGER FROM THE AIRPORT COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. HE SAYS, QUICK RECAP. BECAUSE OF THE MANY EMAILS WE'VE HAD ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE TWO PARCELS WE NEED TO ACQUIRE RIGHT AWAY FROM ONE SITS IN ATLANTA. SO THAT IS TRUE THAT ONE OF THE PARCELS SITS IN ATLANTA, ONE SITS IN EASTPOINT. THAT'S WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE AN IGA BETWEEN EASTPOINT AND ATLANTA TO GIVE EASTPOINT THE AUTHORITY TO CLOSE ON THE ATLANTA PROPERTY VIA THE KIDS RIGHT OF WAY. CONSULTANT EASTPOINT HAS AGREED TO BE THE SPONSOR OF THIS PROJECT, PER THE ATTACHED PROJECT FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT. ADDITIONALLY, SIDS IS PAYING. THE CITY IS PAYING FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY. ACQUISITION. ACQUISITION FROM LEGAL FEES TO THE ACTUAL PURCHASE OF PROPERTY ALSO ATTACHES THE MOU. SO IT APPEARS AS IF AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST WE'VE AGREED TO DO THIS AND THEY'RE RELYING. I'M SORRY YOU THAT YOU READ THEN SAY WE ACQUIRING LAND AND GIVING BACK THAT LOAN. SO THERE IS. THE. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. LET ME GO BACK TO IT. AND THEN WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS AND COUNCIL MEMBER. WELL, I'M PULLING IT BACK UP. I, I CAN DEFER MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO I UNDERSTAND I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR ON WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING WITH REGARDS TO WE ARE BUYING IT FROM ATLANTA, GOING TO DO THE REPAIRS OR WHATEVER, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT BACK TO ATLANTA, WHERE IT'S FROM A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IN ATLANTA. ONE OF THE PARCELS IS WE WOULD GET RIGHT OF WAY FROM THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO INSTEAD OF US DOING THAT WHY WHY DOESN'T ATLANTA JUST DO IT AND LIKE LIKE CITY GIVE THEM THE MONEY TO DO WHATEVER. IT APPEARS BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THE CITY AGREED TO BE THE PROJECT SPONSOR. I'M NOT SURE WHY ATLANTA DIDN'T AGREE TO BE THE PROJECT SPONSOR. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT FIXED. BUT LIKE BEING THE PROJECT SPONSOR, HOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY? BECAUSE WE'RE THE PROJECT SPONSOR, THAT WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY FROM A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IN ATLANTA FOR ATLANTA, DO THE WORK AND GIVE IT BACK TO ATLANTA, LIKE JUST BECAUSE WE'RE THE PROJECT SPONSOR, LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND. AND THE A MOU THAT YOU READ THAT WE SIGNED IN 2022. IT JUST SAYS WE'RE GOING TO WORK. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S IN OUR CITY. THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S IN THEIR CITY. IF THERE'S ANY MONEY BEING PAID, WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR WHAT'S IN OUR CITY. THEY'RE GOING TO PAY WHAT'S IN THEIR CITY AND THEN GIVE IT TO THEM ALL TOGETHER. AND THEN THEY WRITE, AND THEN IT ALL COMES TOGETHER LIKE THAT. THIS NUMBER 15 DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT. THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN EAST POINT. WE'RE GOING TO BUY PROPERTY THAT'S IN ATLANTA FROM A PRIVATE PERSON, IMPROVE THE PROPERTY, AND INSTEAD OF MAINTAINING THE OWNERSHIP OF IT AND THE BENEFIT OF OWNERSHIP, WE'RE GOING TO THEN GIVE IT TO ATLANTA WHO DOES HAVE THE O AND M ON IT, RIGHT. OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT. BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M STUCK. I DON'T BEING A SPONSOR DOESN'T. THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT AGREEMENT THAT SAYS A SPONSOR IS SOMEBODY WHO BUYS PROPERTY FOR ANOTHER CITY, IMPROVES THE PROPERTY, AND THEN GIVES THE PROPERTY BACK TO THE OTHER CITY. COUNCIL MEMBER. AND COUNCIL MEMBER, OKAY, SO YOU SAID THAT THE PRIVATE OWNER OF THAT, THAT AREA THAT IS IN EAST POINT? NO, IT'S IN ATLANTA. I MEAN, THAT THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO ACQUIRING CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS FROM, IT'S NOT A FULL LAND ACQUISITION. IT'S IN ATLANTA. AND JUST FOR CLARITY ON WHAT IS IN THAT AREA, DRAINAGE STRUCTURES LIKE STORM DRAINS AND EVERYTHING. SO IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THAT [03:25:02] PART OF THE PROJECT, IT HAD TO ACQUIRE, LIKE PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FROM A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA. SO ALL WE'RE REALLY DOING IS, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU SAID THE KEY WORD EASEMENT. YES, WE NEED TO GET PERMISSION BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION. WE HAD TO HAVE THIS AGREEMENT IN PLACE IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE EASEMENT AND CONSTRUCT IT CONSTRUCTED OUTSIDE OF EASTPOINTE. OKAY, SO IT'S OUR STUFF. IT'LL BE IN ATLANTA AND PART OF THE AGREEMENT. I KNOW IT'S OUT BUT IT'S IN ATLANTA. YES. AND IN ORDER FOR US TO GET OVER THERE TO DO THE REPAIRS TO OUR STUFF OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED TO COME ONTO THIS PROPERTY HERE THAT'S IN ATLANTA. YES. OKAY. I'LL PICK. I'M TRACKING. OKAY. GOTCHA. THANK YOU, I YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN RECONCILE THIS. IF WHAT ATTORNEY WIGGINS SAID IS THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE ACQUISITION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S GOT TO BE WORK DONE. IS THE CITY ALSO PAYING FOR THE WORK? BECAUSE I ALSO THOUGHT I HEARD DIRECTOR REEVES SAID THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING. SO IS THAT RIGHT? THAT WE ARE A FORMAL, EXECUTED CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT FROM. IT'LL BE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE AGREEMENT AT THAT TIME. SO THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT FOR US TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY. IT'S STILL WORKING OUT ALL THE MECHANICS OF THE FUNDING. NOW, ON WHETHER WE HAVE TO MATCH IT 20% OR THEY'RE GOING TO FULLY FUND IT, BUT THIS WILL BE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAT WILL COME BACK TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE PUTTING THE LAND ACQUISITION BEFORE THE AGREEMENT IS WORKED OUT. BECAUSE IF WE ACQUIRED THE LAND, THEN IT'S IN EASTPOINTE. AND THEN IF WE CAN'T COME TO TERMS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO THEN BE A CONVEYANCE OF THAT LAND TO ATLANTA. CORRECT. SO PART OF OUR LAST CONVERSATION ON THAT TO THAT POINT WAS US DOING AN IMMEDIATE CONVEYANCE TO ATLANTA, IMMEDIATE CONVEYANCE INSTEAD OF US WAITING UNTIL THE PROJECT'S COMPLETE. CAN WE JUST IMMEDIATELY ACQUIRE AND FLIP IT OVER TO THEM IN ATLANTA? ATLANTA WAS AGREEABLE TO THAT ARRANGEMENT SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS OF OWNING LAND FOR CONSTRUCTION. THEY WOULD TAKE ON IMMEDIATE OWNERSHIP SO WE COULD DO AN IMMEDIATE TRANSFER OVER FOR THAT EASEMENT. SO OKAY. SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE PRIVATE OWNER IN ATLANTA. CID WOULD PAY FOR THAT ACQUISITION. YES. AND THEN TO DO A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A QUITCLAIM DEED, CONVEY THAT THEN IMMEDIATELY OVER TO ATLANTA. YES. AND THEN IT'S IN ATLANTA. AND THEN THEY WOULD PAY FOR ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD STILL BE THE SAME PART OF THE PROJECT IN WHICH WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. IT'S JUST IT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO CONSTRUCT IN THAT AREA. THAT'S WHAT THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR, GIVING US THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE THE EASEMENT AND THE RIGHT TO CONSTRUCT AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN, IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA. OKAY. SO WITHOUT THAT, WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF MOU WITH THEM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF JURISDICTION OR LEGAL INSTRUMENT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND WITH THAT RIGHT TO CONSTRUCT, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO CONSTRUCT ON THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF EASTPOINT. IS THAT RIGHT? NO, PARTIALLY WITHIN ATLANTA AND DOT RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE GOOD ON 35. I JUST I FEEL LIKE I AM INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGED RIGHT NOW. LIKE I CAN'T. BUT, I MEAN, IF FIVE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT, WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD. BUT LIKE, I, I'M STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING 15. I UNDERSTAND 35. AND. IF ANYONE IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO 35 GOING TO CONSENT OR YOU WANT THIS ON THE AGENDA? 35 IS THE CSX AREA, WHICH IS PART OF EAST POINT AND ATLANTA. WE PAY 30,000. WE GET IT BACK. I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY MONEY. AND PART OF IT IS IN EASTPOINTE. 35. IS ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO 35 BEING ON CONSENT? NO. 15. IF Y'ALL CAN GET FIVE, I JUST. I, I LITERALLY I DON'T KNOW IF BECAUSE IT'S I MEAN IT'S JUST 10:00 SO IT'S NOT REALLY THAT LATE I DON'T I'M NOT TRACKING. I MEAN IF WE'RE GIVING IT BACK TO THEM, THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO HAVE AN EASEMENT. WE'RE GIVING IT TO ATLANTA. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE BUYING AN EASEMENT. WE'RE NOT BUYING THE PROPERTY, MAKING IMPROVEMENTS, [03:30:02] AND KEEPING AN EASEMENT ON THE SHIP. YOU SAID WE'RE BUYING THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN ATLANTA FROM A PRIVATE OWNER MAKING IMPROVEMENTS EVENTS AND THEN GIVING IT TO ATLANTA WITH NO PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. LIKE IT'S GOING TOTALLY TO THEM. SO MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HELPS THIS. I RUN THE RISK OF MAKING IT. I'M MAKING IT MAYBE EVEN MORE MONEY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY SOPHISTICATED OR COMPLICATED CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT IN A SENSE THAT IT'S ONLY NEEDED FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES. AFTER THAT, THOSE PURPOSES ARE DONE. THEN EVERYTHING REVERTS BACK TO THE INITIAL OWNERSHIP, LIKE WE WOULD SEE IN A NORMAL KIND OF SIMPLE FLIGHT CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT, BUT THIS INVOLVING MULTIPLE PARTIES FUNDING COMING FROM MULTIPLE AREAS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS SET UP THIS WAY. FOR FOR A PURPOSE. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EASIER IF IT WAS JUST CONSIDERED TO BE EASEMENT VERSUS A WHOLE PROPERTY TRANSFER. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE MECHANICALLY, IF THAT HELPS. SO THAT HELPS ME TRACK A LITTLE BIT BETTER RIGHT. SO LIKE BUT WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING THE EASEMENT WHEN WE'RE DONE. THE QUESTION BECOMES I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHY CAN'T ATLANTA DO THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTAIN THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. LIKE IS IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE UTILITIES OR SOMETHING LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO THIS IS ALL LIKE A NEW NEW CONSTRUCTION. IT'S NOT EXISTING UTILITY THAT'S THERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S GOING TO BE EASTPOINT STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. YES. FOR THE BRIDGE. NEW INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE BRIDGE PROJECT. SO WILL IT BE EASTPOINT OR ATLANTA OKAY. SO IN THE IN THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT ATLANTA DOT T HAS THAT ANYTHING THAT LIES WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY. SO ANYTHING THAT'S IN ATLANTA, PORTIONS OF THE RIDGE, THEY'RE AGREEING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY. I KNOW THE HOUR IS GETTING LATE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE HAS COMMENTS THAT HELPED A LITTLE BIT. I UNDERSTAND EASEMENTS, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND NOT ATLANTA. BUT I WILL LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT. I CAN ASK YOU ALL QUESTIONS OFFLINE BEFORE WE GET TO MONDAY. WE CAN PLACE ON THE AGENDA, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, I WAS GOING TO SAY AND IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE NOT SPOKE WITH ANYONE THE ATTORNEY OR ANYBODY ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 15. CORRECT. NOT SO WE'VE HAD SOME EMAIL CONVERSATION, BUT IT WASN'T WITH THE LAWYER. IT WAS WITH THE CID GENTLEMAN, ROBERT CADELL, I THINK HIS NAME IS. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IS IT ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN SPEAK WITH AN ATTORNEY TO FIND OUT WHY IT WAS DONE THIS WAY AND TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING? BECAUSE YOU SAID. IS IT BECAUSE I KNOW I HEARD THE MAYOR SAY, IS IT GOING TO BE CITY OF EASTPOINTE EASEMENT? IS IT GOING TO BE CITY OF EASTPOINTE INFRASTRUCTURE? THAT'S BEING PLACED ON THE PROPERTY OR WILL IT BE ATLANTA? SO I THINK A GOOD PLACE TO START WOULD BE WITH AN ATTORNEY SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS DONE THIS WAY. WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF EASTPOINTE? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO ATLANTA? AND THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY MOVE ON IT OR VOTE IT UP OR DOWN. SO. YES, MA'AM. I WILL ADD THAT AT ONE POINT IT LOOKS LIKE MR. HALL HAD SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE CID GENTLEMEN. AND HE RESPONDED. BOTH PARCELS CAN BE ACQUIRED ONE INTO ATL AND THE OTHER ONE INTO EASTPOINT ON THE CLOSING DOCUMENTS. SO AT SOME POINT THEY CONTEMPLATED THE ELIMINATION OF EASTPOINT, TRANSFERRING THE EASEMENTS BACK OVER TO ATLANTA. AND SO WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THE IGA THAT'S CURRENTLY BEFORE YOU HAS MADE THAT CHANGE. AND I THINK THAT WILL GET US THERE IF IF THERE IS THE NEED TO NOT DO THE TRANSFER BACK TO THE MAYOR'S POINT. I, I THINK THE CID STAFF AND EXECUTIVE. [03:35:03] THEY'RE GOOD PARTNERS, BUT, LIKE, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ATLANTA. INITIALLY THIS WAS A EAST POINT IS EASIER TO WORK WITH. WE HAVE LESS BUREAUCRACY LIKE THEIR COMMITTEES AND DIFFERENT THINGS IN ATLANTA. AND I KNOW THEY MEAN WELL, BUT, LIKE, IF WE COULD JUST CLEAR THIS UP, LIKE, I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE, BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE LEGALLY CAN DO, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'VE SIGNED ALREADY THAT REQUIRES US TO DO THIS. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. IS THERE A DEADLINE OR TIME CONSTRAINTS? YES, SIR. I REALLY WANTED IT LAST MONTH, BUT WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT DONE UNTIL WE GET IT DONE. I MEAN, WHEN THEY FIRST BROUGHT IT TO US BACK, WHAT, APRIL OR WHATEVER. WE, WE WE HAD SAME ADAMANT. WE WERE ADAMANT JUST LIKE THE MAYOR WAS WHY ARE WE DOING THIS THIS WAY? AND THAT'S WHEN IT TOOK US FOR A MINUTE BEFORE WE EVEN BROUGHT IT TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BECAUSE ONCE WE START LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IN THE CONTRACT AND THERE AND I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS, THE DOCUMENTS SIGNED BY THE THEN CITY CITY MANAGER THAT ACTUALLY SAID LAND ACQUISITION IN IT. I THOUGHT I HAD IT IN MY FILES AND I CAN'T FIND IT. BUT ONCE WE START FINDING THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND LOOKING AT THEM OR USING EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT, THAT'S WHEN WE BROUGHT TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON WHAT WAS GOING ON, BECAUSE I WAS ADAMANT THE SAME WAY AS THE MAYOR. WE WAS ADAMANT ABOUT THIS IN 2019, ABOUT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROJECT. WHY IS ATLANTA NOT PARTNERING WITH THIS, HAVING A THREE WAY PARTNERSHIP, WHICHEVER WAY THEY DONE IT, THEY DIDN'T DO IT, AND WE END UP AGREEING WITH IT AND SIGNING OFF ON IT AT THAT TIME AS AN MOU. AND HERE WE COME BACK AGAIN NOW. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION. IS IT BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ATLANTA? OR IS IT BECAUSE THAT THE THE PLANNING PROCESS AND ZONING IS MORE DIFFICULT THAT THEY CAME THROUGH EASTPOINTE? THE ONLY THING I CAN ANSWER IS THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ATLANTA FOR THIS PROJECT. I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE COUNCILMAN BUTLER. IS THAT BECAUSE A PORTION OF THE PROJECT WAS WITHIN EASTPOINTE LIKE IT CONTEMPLATES IN THIS IGA THAT WE WERE THE ONES THAT WANTED TO REPLACE THE WELCOME MALL ROAD BRIDGE. SO, I MEAN, IF IF IT'S MORE THAN THAT, CERTAINLY I YIELD. BUT THE DOCUMENTS, WHOEVER DRAFTED THIS, I WOULD IMAGINE IT WAS THE CITY FOLKS, THEY INDICATE THAT WE'RE THE ONES THAT INITIATED THIS. SO I THINK WHICH IS CORRECT, THE CITY DID INITIATE IT. AND WHEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID THAT WE THEY THEY INITIATED A PROJECT, BUT THEY COULDN'T GET THE FUNDING FROM GDOT WITHOUT HAVING THE MOU WITH THE MUNICIPALITY, WHICH WAS WHAT THEY WERE REACHING OUT TO US. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REACHED OUT TO ATLANTA OR NOT. WE ASKED THEM ABOUT THAT AT THAT TIME AND THIS IS WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH. SO LET ME JUST BOIL IT DOWN TO THE LEAST COMMON DENOMINATOR WE HAVE. WE KNOW WE NEED TO WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS TRAFFIC ON WELCOME MALL AND CAMP CREEK. AND SO WE COME UP AND WE WE PUT THE INITIAL FUNDING AND GO THROUGH EVERYTHING. BUT ONCE WE TRANSFER THAT BRIDGE ASSET TO ATLANTA, THEY BECOME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND THE UPKEEP OF THAT. IS THAT WHERE WE ARE? YES, SIR. SO WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. WILL THE CITY HAVE TO DO IT? NO, SIR. ATLANTA. SO IN THAT WAY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT BENEFITS US. YES. I MEAN, IT BENEFITS US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY. IT'S JUST. JUST THE FACT OF GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF TRANSFERRING AND TRANSFERRING BACK. THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT PROBABLY EVERYBODY IN HERE IS PROBABLY SAYING WHY WE GOT TO TRANSFER IT WHEN IT'S ATLANTA. BUT ATLANTA DOES NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH SID FOR THIS PROJECT. THAT'S PROBABLY THE THAT'S THE MAIN THING. THEY DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN THIS PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, AND THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR THE DIALOG ON THIS. IS IT POSSIBLE MADAM CITY ATTORNEY CAN JUST TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS AND WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THIS AND COME BACK TO US? YES, MA'AM. I THINK SINCE IT'S BEEN. YEAH, I MEAN, I I'M NOT I KNOW YOU WANT TO TRY TO HAVE IT LAST MONTH. WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR MONDAY, BUT THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND THE CITY OF ATLANTA HAVE TO TALK. IT CANNOT BE THROUGH THE SID. THE KID HAS THEIR DESIRE OR THEIR IDEA OF HOW THIS PROJECT SHOULD WORK. AND I GET IT. THEIR REGIONAL CONVENER. LEGALLY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE LEGALLY CAN DO IN EITHER CITY. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, IT'S NOT TO STOP, BUT THIS IS I FEEL LIKE I'M HAVING A FLASHBACK, LITERALLY TO WHEN FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON WAS ON COUNCIL AND WE MET WITH GERALD IN THE CID OFFICE WHEN I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WAS ASKING THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THIS [03:40:07] WHOLE PROJECT. AND WE'RE HERE. SO LIKE THE CONVERSATION HAS, I THINK, NEEDS TO TRANSITION FROM CID TO EASTPOINT IN ATLANTA. TALKING THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE AS MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO LEGALLY. AND JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. LIKE, I'M NOT SAYING DON'T MAKE IT WORK, BUT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE LEGALLY CAN DO, REGARDLESS OF DESIRES. WE AGREE. SO I MEAN, WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR MONDAY. AND IF WE THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE HAPPENED AND LEGAL IN ATLANTA AND LEGAL IN EASTPOINT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS AND THEY CAN SHARE WITH US HOW WE CAN LEGALLY DO THESE THINGS. THEN MAYBE WE'LL GET IT DOWN ON MY NECK. BUT IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, I'M NOT TRYING TO PLAY IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD AND HE'S THE ORDER. SO 35 IS GOING TO CONSENT AND THIS ONE IS GOING FOR AGENDA. YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. SOUNDS GOOD. YES, MA'AM. GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. NO. JUST LEGAL AGENDA FOR THIS, AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT. BAYER HAS 18 AND. 39. AND THEN I THINK. [III.12. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Tri-Cites High School Champions Signage] OH, THE TRI CITY SIGNAGE. I'M SORRY. REALLY QUICK. YEP. PUBLIC WORKS. Y'ALL HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL. CHARLOTTE HAS HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE. I THINK THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT. AND WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE WITH THE DESIGN APPROVED DESIGN. WE'RE REACHING OUT. WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO THE PRINCIPAL TO GET HER BLESSING ON IT, AND THEN WE'LL BE. THAT'LL BE IT. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. OH, YES. GO AHEAD. OH. GO AHEAD. I'M GONNA SAY WHAT I GOTTA SAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YES, WE TALKED TO HIS ATHLETIC TEAM. WE WANTED TO GET A COURTESY FOR THE PRINCIPAL TO SEE THE DESIGN. AS YOU KNOW, TRI-CITIES JUST GOT BACK. SO WE WANT TO GIVE HER TIME TO GET SETTLED. JEFF MADE AN ATTEMPT TO GIVE HER A CALL. WE ALSO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP. ACTUALLY, DOUGAN WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH HER. SO WE WANT TO GIVE HER A LITTLE SPACE TO SHOW HER THE DESIGN, AND THEN WE SHOULD BE READY TO GO COME SEPTEMBER. OKAY. SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION. YES. ARE YOU PULLING UP THE MOST RECENT DESIGNS? NO, I'M SHUTTING IT DOWN. OH. OH. I'M FINE. SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK. FOR ITEM NUMBER 11. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT FOR YOU ALL. 18 AND 39. AND I THINK THAT'LL CLEAR IT. GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCILWOMAN. [IV.18. Donation Surplus Tower Truck and Command Unit] MADAM MAYOR. JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN ITEM 13. IT'S A SURPLUS TOWER TRUCK THAT WE HAVE THAT'S BEEN OBSOLETE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. IT'S ACTUALLY 18 YEARS OLD. WE CAN'T UTILIZE IT ANYMORE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE TO GIVE IT TO. THE THING ABOUT IT IS, WE'RE IN A SITUATION NOW WHERE EITHER WE HAVE TO CRUSH IT OR GIVE IT AWAY BECAUSE IT CAN'T. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH, OKAY. WE. WE CAN'T. ACTUALLY, THE LADDER IS 100 FOOT LADDER WE CAN'T PUT ANYBODY ON IT BECAUSE IT HASN'T PASSED THE LADDER TEST, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $200,000 JUST TO REPAIR THAT LADDER. AND THAT LADDER, EVEN IF WE REPAIRED IT AT 200,000, THAT WOULDN'T COVER THE ENGINE AND THE TRANSMISSION, WHICH IS 18 YEARS OLD. SO THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS TO REPLACE THAT VEHICLE. SO I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH AFRICAN COUNTRY. CAME. OH MY GOODNESS. BUT THE MONROVIA MONROVIA I THINK IT WAS MONROVIA. THEY WANTED IT MIGHT BE THE RIGHT ONE. I'LL TRY TO GO BACK IN MY NOTES. THEY WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT GETTING SOME OF OUR FIRE EQUIPMENT FROM SURPLUS AND WE COULD LOOK AT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT INTERNATIONAL AND ALL THAT, BUT THEY ARE IN NEED OF. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE CITY. I'LL FIGURE IT OUT. YEAH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF WE CRUSH IT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $3,000 TO CRUSH IT. SO IT'LL BE BETTER TO JUST GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY THAT COULD PROBABLY TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT BACK AND FORTH. [03:45:02] AND THEN ITEM 30. HOLD ON. COUNCIL MEMBER OH OH. MADAM MAYOR, YOU SAID MONROVIA. I CAN'T REMEMBER, IT WAS ONE THAT CAME. I GOTTA LOOK BACK THROUGH MY NOTES. IT'S I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. I WAS THINKING TOO. CHIEF, WERE YOU HERE WHEN PATSY. JOE AND THEY, THEY DONATED THAT EQUIPMENT TO A SISTER CITY PROGRAM. ARE YOU THINKING, LIKE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO? YEAH. YEAH. YOU WERE HERE? I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT, TOO. IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. YEAH. THE FIRST LADY WAS HERE. WE MET AT FOUR POINTS BY SHERIDAN. AND THERE WAS A PRESENTATION. OH. THAT'S COOL. NO EAST POINT CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU. YEAH, BECAUSE THE MAYOR OF THE CITY DID A PRESENTATION. WE TALKED ABOUT IT. SO I'LL ASK SHANTEL. IS THAT THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE THE SERVERS GOING? ALSO THE IT SERVERS? I'M NOT SURE. CITY. I'LL LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT. YEAH. I'LL I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, I THINK OH, MY GOODNESS, I'M DRAWING A BLANK. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER. CLEMENS THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I KNOW ONE MAN'S JUNK IS ANOTHER MAN'S TREASURE. OH, YEAH. SO WE DONATED TO WHOEVER WE DONATED TO. DO WE DO SOME SORT OF, LIKE, WAIVER OR SOMETHING TO KIND OF ABSOLVES US OF IT? BECAUSE WE WON'T PUT. WE WON'T PUT IT UP ON THE 100 FOOT LADDER. I DON'T WANT TO THROW NOBODY UP THERE. AND THEN, YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET WITH LEGAL ON IT TO SEE HOW WE NEED TO TRANSITION WITH IT. IT'S JUST THAT, AS YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE FIRE SERVICE, ONCE THE LADDER GOES OUT OF SERVICE, YOU CAN'T PUT ANYBODY ON IT OR IT'S A LIABILITY ISSUE FOR US. SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T UTILIZE IT. SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO DO WHAT'S CALLED A LADDER TEST ON ALL OF OUR LADDERS. AND EACH ONE OF THEM HAS PASSED. SO EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE, IT HASN'T PASSED IN 2 OR 3 YEARS. OKAY. SO IT'S TIME TO GET RID OF IT. AND THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS ITEM 35, IS TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THAT LADDER. [IV.39. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Lease of a 2025 E-One Fire 75" Ladder Truck – from Cooperative Agreement NPPGov; the Previous Unit (2007) Needs Repairs Beyond Its Value and Hasn't Passed the Last 2 Safety Inspections Required by the State. NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $1,450,000; FUNDING SOURCE: CIP] NOW IT'S A TOTAL OF 1.4 MILLION. BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING THAT UP FRONT. WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A LEASE PURCHASE TO FINANCE IT. IT'LL BE 300,000 DOWN. AND I THINK WE HAVE A 5% INTEREST RATE ON IT. AND WE DID IT OVER. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IT OVER TEN YEARS. AND WE'LL GET THAT CONTRACT TO THE THE ATTORNEY ONCE WE GET IT. BUT THIS WAS APPROVED IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET FOR 1.4 TO REPLACE THAT LADDER. NOW, THE WAIT TIME ON AN ENGINE IS TWO YEARS, AND THE WAIT TIME ON A LADDER IS THREE YEARS TO BUILD IT. AND WE HAVE ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND IT'S READY TO GO. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PUT DOWN A DOWN PAYMENT OF 300,000. AND WHEN I PUT THAT IN THE CAPITAL FOR THIS YEAR. SO IT'S ACTUALLY I'M ASKING YOU ALL PERMISSION TO ACTUALLY GET IT. 39 OH, I'M SORRY I SAID 35 I APOLOGIZE. NO, NO, I'M I MISSED THE NUMBER. I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER ITEMS. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ON 18, YOU JUST NEED US TO AUTHORIZE THE SURPLUS OF IT. YES, MA'AM. YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT IT. IS MONROVIA OKAY IN LIBERIA? GOTCHA. AND THEN, SO WE CAN. ANY OBJECTION TO CONSENT ON 18 AND 39, 1.4 MILL? YES, MA'AM. IT'S NOT A HE WASN'T SO THE 1.4 MIL AND THAT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S A GREAT RATE. THAT'S WHY WE JUMPED ON IT. SO A LADDER TRUCK IS 2.5 FOR A BASIC. NOW THE ONE THAT WE HAVE NOW WHICH IS LADDER ONE IS 100 FOOT LADDER, BUT IT'S A 2015, WHICH BY NFPA CODE IT SAYS THAT A LADDER TRUCK OR ENGINE SHOULD BE IN SERVICE FOR TEN YEARS. AND THEN ON A LADDER YOU CAN GO FIVE YEARS AS A BACKUP. SO THAT'S 15 YEARS. SO THIS ONE HERE, THE 2007 IS 18 YEARS OLD. SO I NEED TO REPLACE THAT ONE. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING TO REPLACE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT TO KNOW YOU SAID IT'S IN YOUR CIP. YES MA'AM. IT'S IN THE CIP OKAY. AND ARE YOU PIGGYBACKING? YES, MA'AM. COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT MPP YES. ANY OBJECTION TO 39 ON CONSENT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. OH, I'M SO SORRY. AND VERY QUICK. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. VERY QUICK. WHILE WE HAVE YOU HERE, CHIEF, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON FIRE STATIONS THREE AND FIVE? YES. SO FIRE STATION. ALRIGHT. I'M SORRY. I PROMISE I'LL BE OKAY. SO FIRE STATION THREE IS COMPLETE. IT'S COMPLETED. AND I PROVIDE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. FIRE STATION FIVE. WE ACTUALLY GOT OUT OF PLAN REVIEW, AND WE ACTUALLY STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON MONDAY. [03:50:02] SO MONDAY THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION, TEARING OUT THE WALLS TO REDO EVERYTHING. SO THAT STARTED AS OF MONDAY. AND I'LL HAVE THE SCHEDULE. WE HAVE A MEETING WEDNESDAY. WE HAVE A MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY, AND I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A TIMELINE ON IT. BUT THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED MONDAY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I THINK THAT TAKES THANK YOU. [II.7. East Point Facility Financing Plan] OKAY, WE GO BACK TO NUMBER SEVEN NOW. MR. JONES. I FIND MY PAPERWORK HERE. OKAY. SO EARLIER TODAY RELEASED A FACILITY FINANCE PLAN. THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO COUNSEL'S TASK TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND FINANCING OUT OF THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY FINANCE ADVISOR HAD PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND JUST TO, TO RECAP TO MAINTAIN OUR AA BOND RATING OUR ADVISOR IDENTIFIED A CAP OF $70 MILLION. $70 BILLION DOLLARS? YEP. AS TO FUEL WHATEVER PROJECTS THAT THAT WE WOULD IDENTIFY. AND SO I THINK THERE WERE SOME CONSENSUS ON LOOKING AT THE OLD CITY HALL THE CITY THE CITY'S AUDITORIUM AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE RECREATION CENTER. SO WITH THAT THOSE PROJECTS IN MIND I KIND OF TOOK A KIND OF DETAILED APPROACH LOOKING IN, IN ONE THIS IS LIKE A 20 PAGE DOCUMENT, SO I'M JUST GOING OVER IT REAL QUICKLY. WE CAN CERTAINLY DOUBLE BACK. SHOULD COUNCIL WANT TO STUDY THIS MORE OFTEN? MORE IN MORE DETAIL? SINCE I KNOW YOU'RE JUST NOW GETTING IT TODAY, BUT TO COVER, COVER THOSE THOSE ITEMS THAT THE ADVISOR TALKED ABOUT, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FINANCE STRATEGIES. AND WE CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES. WE COULD LOOK AT ONE FINANCE AND I WILL CALL IT KIND OF LIKE THE BACKBONE FINANCE STRATEGY FOR A GROUPING. ALL, ALL ALL THESE PROJECTS INTO ONE BIG 70 MILLION, 65 MILLION, WHATEVER IT COMES OUT TO BE. APPROACH UTILIZING THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, ANY OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION, THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE BONDS, THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, ALL THOSE THINGS STILL YET TO BE DETERMINED. BUT THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED, THEN THERE'S OTHER MECHANISMS THAT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON REVENUE OR. WELL, THAT REALLY FOCUS ON DEBT SERVICE, THE REVENUE REQUIRED TO ACTUALLY SERVICE THOSE DEBTS. SO THAT COULD BE HANDLED IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS INTERNALLY, MUCH LIKE WE HAVE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED WITHIN OUR CITY THAT BASICALLY OPERATE IN LIKE A BUSINESS ACTIVITY. AND THAT'S WHY WE SEPARATED. SEPARATED OUT FROM NORMAL GENERAL FUND TYPE OF ACTIVITIES. WITH THAT IN MIND AS I KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THAT KIND OF BACKGROUND. I THINK THE FOURTH ONE WAS THE LIBRARY. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO I DIDN'T REALLY FOCUS ON THE LIBRARY, BUT I WAS KIND OF IN MY MIND THINKING THAT THAT WAS MAYBE PART OF THE OVERALL AUDITORIUM, BUT I SEE I CAN SEE THE DISTINCTION. BUT ANYWAY, LET'S LET'S WORK THROUGH THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A SMALL PIECE. AND I THINK THERE'S STILL ROOM. SO ON, ON MY PAGE THREE AND THIS, THERE'S A LITTLE AMORTIZATION TABLE. IT'S SUPER GENERAL, BUT AND IT INSINUATES THAT WE SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND $5.5 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE. GIVEN THAT WE HAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND A 5% INTEREST RATE LOOKING AT A TERM, A LIFE, A TERM OF AROUND 30 YEARS NOW THAT IS ALSO THERE'S TONS OF VARIABLES. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AT A DOUBLE A RATING. SO IF YOUR IDEA OF, SAY, THE EXAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DOUBLE A RATING VERSUS MAYBE A SINGLE A PLUS RATING ESTIMATED SOMEWHERE AROUND 1.2 OR $3 [03:55:07] MILLION, A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST HAVING THAT RATING DIFFERENCE OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD. SO SO IT CERTAINLY MAKES MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR REPAYMENT AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO CAPTURE WITH A REALLY SIMPLE AMORTIZATION TABLE IS THAT YOU CAN ALSO LOAD UP LIKE HAVE HIGHER REPAYMENTS ON A FRONT END OF AMORTIZATION TABLE, OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE IT AND LATER ON AMORTIZATION TABLE. AND THE REASON YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT, BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT START OFF SLOWER, LIKE PROGRAMING REVENUES MAY START OFF SLOWER BECAUSE YOU GOT TO BUILD A BRAND AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. OR THERE MAY BE THINGS UPFRONT THAT YOU WANT TO LOAD LOAD UPFRONT FOR, YOU KNOW, OTHER REASONS BASED ON THE LIFE OF PARTICULAR AGREEMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL CALL THOSE OFF, TAKE AGREEMENTS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND YOU HAVE A PRIVATE ENTITY. THEY MAY NOT BE FOCUSED ON A 30 YEAR COMMITMENT. SO YOU MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BEEF THOSE THINGS UP TO HAVE EARLY REPAYMENT EARLY ON IN YOUR AMORTIZATION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES IN THERE THAT FLUCTUATE AND MOVE. SO WITH ALL THAT KIND OF IN OUR BACKGROUND I'M LOOKING AT THE AUDITORIUM. SO THE AUDITORIUM HAS SOME UNIQUE ATTRIBUTES TO IT THAT REALLY LEND ITSELF TO HAVING A PRIVATE ENTITY PARTNERING WITH THE CITY IN SOME FASHION. THERE'S A NUMBER OF, OF PROJECTS THAT KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT ENVIRONMENT ONE I IDENTIFIED THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN PERSONALLY IN IOWA CALLED THE RIVER MUSIC EXPERIENCE. THAT PROJECT WAS AN OLD WAREHOUSE DOWNTOWN THAT HAD LANGUAGE FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME. IT ALSO HAS SOME HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE. IT WASN'T A HISTORIC BUILDING, BUT IT HAD SOME UNIQUENESS THAT RESONATES. THAT REMINDS ME OF WHAT OUR AUDITORIUM BRINGS. AND THAT PROJECT WE WOUND UP HAVING A MUSEUM. THAT WAS BASED ON THE HISTORY AND THE RIVER, MISSISSIPPI RIVER, ALL THAT KIND OF THING. BUT ON THE FRONT. ON THE TOP ON THE TOP LEVEL, WE HAD OFFICES THAT WERE WERE LEASED OUT TO OFFICE SPACE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT WAS AN ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT HAD MOST OF THAT SPACE. BUT WE ALSO HAD A BOTTOM FLOOR THAT HAD A RESTAURANT AND THEN ALSO A CAFE IN THE MIDDLE FLOOR WAS THE MUSEUM. ULTIMATELY, WE RENOVATED THE BASEMENT, WHICH TURNED INTO SOUND STUDIOS. SO IT WAS A MULTIPLE THING, AND THERE WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RESTAURANT, AND WE HAD TO FIND A RESTAURANT, AND WE HAD TO TRY AND INCENTIVIZE RESTAURANTS TO COME IN. SO THERE WERE YEARS WHERE IT DIDN'T CASH FLOW FULLY. I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE AROUND $6 MILLION OF HOTEL MOTEL THAT WE HAVE SAVED UP. AND I THINK OUR PROPOSALS ARE THE PROPOSALS I'M RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY BUILD THAT INTO OR USE THAT FOR THE ACTUAL INITIAL CAPITAL OR THE REVENUE REPAYMENT. WE ACTUALLY SAVE THAT FOR TIGHT YEARS OR GAPPING, IF WE'RE RIGHT THERE, WE'RE REAL CLOSE GAP GAP FINANCING. SO BUT WE DO HAVE THAT KIND OF SAFETY NET OF 6 MILLION OF HOTEL MOTEL TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH US. WE ALSO HAVE IDENTIFIED DEBT SERVICE, HOTEL MOTELS THAT WE CAN GET UP TO AROUND $2 MILLION COMFORTABLY AND PAY THAT FOR A 30 YEAR PERIOD. SO IF WE HAVE 6 MILLION THAT THAT WE WE HOLD FOR THOSE THOSE SPECIAL MOMENTS AND WE HAVE TWO TO TO TO PLAY FOR DEBT SERVICE, THAT LEAVES US ABOUT TWO SHORT. SO AS WE LOOK AT PROGRAMING, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE ACTIVITIES THAT WILL GENERATE REVENUES IN PROGRAMING. AND UNDERSTANDING THAT GENERAL FUND IS THE IS THE GUARANTEE, IF YOU WILL. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR FIRST CAR MOM AND POP THEY'RE YOUR GUARANTEE IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR BILL BUT YOU'RE GOING INTO YOUR FIRST CAR LOAN. AND WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF THESE ENTITIES THAT WE SET UP THE AUDITORIUM, OLD CITY HALL AND THE REC CENTER AS KIND OF LIKE THOSE, [04:00:03] THOSE CHILDREN ENTITIES THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON, TRYING TO HELP THEM BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT WITH THE HOTEL MOTEL KIND OF BEING THE ANCHOR TO START THAT. TO START THEM OFF. SO WITH WITH THAT LOOKING. LOOKING AT THE AUDITORIUM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IDEAL TO PROBABLY SEEK OUT AN RFP, COME UP WITH SOME, SOME IDEAL PROGRAMING THAT WE WOULD LIKE AND SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD EITHER BE A RENTAL OR LEASE AGREEMENT OR SOME TYPE OF LEASE BACK AGREEMENT, EVEN DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PROPOSAL PROPOSALS, WE GET IN WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD STILL KEEP SOME TYPE OF CIVIC GOAL OR CIVIC ACTIVITY THAT WE WOULD WORK AROUND, WHATEVER THE PRIVATE ENTITY IS. AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE THING. BUT THERE WAS THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER EXAMPLES THAT I PUT IN THERE, AND WE CAN GO INTO ANY ONE OF THOSE. BUT WE HAD HISTORIC FIREHOUSE IN CALIFORNIA THAT UTILIZED SOME CREATIVE REUSE THE PARAMOUNT THEATER WAS IDENTIFIED IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. AND AGAIN THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR NONPROFIT PARTNERSHIPS. SO THERE'S THERE'S WAYS WHERE WE COULD UTILIZE EITHER A PARTNER TO WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A NEW PARTNERSHIP, JOINING IN WITH THE CITY KIND OF BEING OVERALL PARTNER, BRINGING OPERATIONS THAT NONPROFITS ARE REALLY GOOD AT, PROVIDING THOSE KIND OF PROGRAMING WHERE AS OTHER INVESTOR, MORE LIKE INVESTOR TYPE PARTNERS ARE MORE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THE RETURNS AND LOOKING AT THE INITIAL INVESTMENT. AND SO THERE'S WAYS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND BRINGING IN OUR NONPROFIT ENTITIES MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE AUDITORIUM. SO I ASSESS AND I KIND OF TOOK SOME GENERAL NUMBERS. AND I WANT TO SAY I HAD THE AUDITORIUM SOMEWHERE AROUND 7.5 MILLION. AND THAT WAS ON SOME AVERAGE NUMBERS LOOKING AT AUDITORIUM SPACES FROM SCHOOL AUDITORIUMS TO PRIVATE, PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR AUDITORIUMS. AND THAT CAME AROUND 6 MILLION. I GOT MY MY NOTES HERE SOMEWHERE. YEAH, 7.5 MILLION. SO KEEPING THAT IN LINE WITH OUR OVERALL GOAL OF 70 MILLION CAP WITH ESTIMATES SOMEWHERE AROUND 4.5 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE, THAT WOULD BE A THAT WOULD BE LIKE A 7.5 MILLION PIECE OF OF THAT OVERALL PIE MOVING TO THE NEXT PIE, AND I'M KIND OF SHOOTING THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. SO THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAILS THAT WE CAN GO IN. BUT THE OTHER PIECE IS LOOKING AT WHAT THE OLD CITY HALL COULD BE USED FOR. SO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE JUDGE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE NOW UP TO FULL FORCE IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT IS ALSO CREATED WORKLOAD FOR THE COURTS. AND SO ALREADY THE COUNCIL HAVE HAS REALIZED THAT THAT'S A CHALLENGE APPROVED THE HIRE OF ASSOCIATE JUDGES. BUT EVEN WITH THAT THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH SPACE. THEY'RE EVEN LOOKING AT CREATING HYBRID COURTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO TRY TO AUGMENT THE LIMITATIONS THAT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COURT SYSTEM. SO THINKING OF, OF THAT NEED AND THE OLD CITY HALL, WHICH I HAD LEARNED FROM THE JUDGE THAT AT ONE TIME THERE WAS COURT HELD THERE. I THINK IT MADE SENSE TO POTENTIALLY BUILD OUT INTO TWO COURT, TWO COURT SPACES, POTENTIALLY EVEN A THIRD. LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS FLOORS OF THE BUILDING. BEING A COURT ON EACH FLOOR THE UNIQUE THING WITH THAT IS IT CREATES A A REVENUE GENERATOR THROUGH COURT COSTS AND JUDGMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WILL ALLOW SOME DEBT SERVICE. SO I ESTIMATED COURT SPACE BASED ON SOME AVERAGES THAT I FOUND AT AROUND 5.2 MILLION. THE OTHER UNIQUE THING, AND I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN ALL THIS THROUGH OUR, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR FINANCING THAT COMES UNIQUELY WITH COURTS THAT COULD ALSO PROVIDE [04:05:08] SOME ABILITY FOR US TO TO USE US. AND THAT MIGHT BE EVEN A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLIER THAN A TYPICAL GEO OR OR INTERGOVERNMENTAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT APPROACH. BUT THAT'S A THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. IT CREATES A IT CREATES SOME CASH FLOW TO HELP COME IN AND HAVE SOME ESTIMATES ON WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. AND SO THAT WAS THE IDEA WITH OLD CITY HALL NOW GOING TO THE BIG ONE THE RECREATION CENTER, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DESIGN WORK THAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S AT 33 MILLION. AND THEN THERE'S WORK LOOKING AT POOL OPTIONS OR AQUATICS OPTIONS AND THOSE CAN YOU CAN BUILD THOSE THINGS TO BE AS, AS, AS INEXPENSIVE AS A POOL THAT MIGHT BE IN SOMEONE'S BACKYARD TO, TO AN OLYMPIC STYLE POOL THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, $20 MILLION. SO I HAD GOT SOME NATIONAL NUMBERS OF LEISURE AND COMPETITIVE RATED POOLS TOGETHER. THERE'S SOME ECONOMICS OF SCALE, IF YOU WILL, WHERE THAT KIND OF RANGE FROM ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO $22 MILLION, HAVING ALL THREE OF THOSE TYPE OF VENUES IN SOME TYPE OF SOME TYPE OF OVERALL VENUE. SO THE UNIQUE THING WITH THE RECREATION CENTER BEING THE SIZE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE'S THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, RANGING FROM A TAD TO A SID, A TAD. OBVIOUSLY ONLY MAKES SENSE IF THERE'S PRIVATE SECTOR INVOLVEMENT FOR THOSE TAX INCENTIVES, AND THERE'S CERTAINLY WAYS TO HAVE SPACE WITHIN OUR SPACE THAT IS COMMERCIAL, THAT IS COMMERCIAL OR PRIVATELY OPERATED WITHIN OUR PUBLIC SPACE. THINGS LIKE A HOTEL. SO OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION INTO THE SPACE IS REALLY OPENING UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR TOURNAMENTS. SO HAVING A ONE STOP SHOP, IF YOU WILL, ESPECIALLY IF IT HAPPENS TO HAVE LEISURE POOL OR WHATEVER. AND THE FAMILIES THAT COME IN FOR TOURNAMENTS CAN COME TO ONE PLACE, STAY AT A BOUTIQUE TYPE OF HOTEL, ENJOY LEISURE WATER SERVICES, AND THEN PARTICIPATE IN IN THE THE TOURNAMENTS ITSELF SOUNDS APPEALING, SOUNDS SECURE. HERE. SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE A REGIONAL A REGIONAL LOCATION. SO THAT'S A THOUGHT. WE'VE ALSO PLAYED WITH IDEAS OF, OF HAVING SOME OTHER REGIONAL NEEDS. ACTUALLY, I HAD TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO MY WIFE WITH THIS IDEA BECAUSE SHE'S A BIG WNBA FAN. BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ATLANTA DREAM IS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO PRACTICE OR EVEN PLAY. AND SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE COULD HAVE PRACTICE FACILITIES WITHIN OUR PUBLIC FACILITY, BUT THE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BE PRIVATE. THAT WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A TAX, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE A NUMBER OF OTHER OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT WE COULD PLAY WITH TO CREATE THAT, THAT, THAT NICE SWEET SPOT OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACE ON, ON THAT SITE THAT COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A TAD KID. ID A LITTLE. A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLY. WHILE TAD MAY NOT GIVE YOU, I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE VERY INTERESTED IN IS, IS REALLY FOCUSING ON ON THE INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS AND COMMERCIAL PARTNERS AND NOT REALLY PUTTING A WHOLE LOT OF TAXING ON RESIDENTIAL PARTNERS. TAD MIGHT BE A LITTLE CLUNKIER THAN THAT WAY BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY TAKE IN SOME RESIDENTIAL SPACES WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO DRAW THOSE DISTRICTS INTO THE EXISTING DISTRICT. SID IS MUCH MORE FRIENDLIER. YOU CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ARTFUL IN HOW YOU STRUCTURE THAT AND FOCUS ON INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL SPECIFICALLY. BUT THEN THOSE HAVE TO BE APPROVED THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. SO YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT MEANS SOME EXTRA STEPS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO. BUT CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE DONE. AND, AND THAT IS, I WANT TO SAY, SOMEWHERE AROUND 2.5% ABOVE A CURRENT [04:10:02] ASSESSED VALUE. SO YOU CAN TAX ON TOP OF OUR CURRENT TAX LEVELS UP TO AROUND 2.5, BASED ON THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREA, WHICH COULD EASILY COVER THAT $2 MILLION GAP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CLOSE. SO SO THAT'S A AN OVERALL APPROACH WITH SOME PROGRAMING NUMBERS. AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IT TAKES A WHILE TO BUILD UP A STRONG PROGRAM. SO THAT MIGHT BE WHY WE MIGHT WANT TO LOAD OUR AMORTIZATION IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND A LOT OF THAT IS HOW WE STRUCTURE OUR BOND. AND AND WHEN WE GO TO THE BOND MARKET, PEOPLE WILL BUY ON TO THAT OR NOT BUY ON TO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS REALLY COME IN. SO ON THE, ON THE BACK SECOND PAGE JUST GIVES YOU A KIND OF A RUNDOWN. SO IF WE AND THESE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I HOPE YOU GOT OUT OF THIS. THERE'S TONS OF VARIABLES. YOU HAVE TO BE PLAYED OUT. BUT IN GENERAL, JUST TO GET THE IDEAS GOING WE COULD BE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 40, 44, 45.7 MILLION WITHOUT THE POOL OPTIONS. ADDING THE POOL OPTIONS CAN TAKE US UP TO 67.7 MILLION, AND THAT'S LIKE ANOTHER 20 MILLION TONS OF ROOM IN THERE. AGAIN, THAT'S WITH EVERYTHING. WE MAY NOT WANT TO LOOK AT A COMPETITION POOL, BUT AGAIN, WITH THE COMPETITION POOL, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING THAT KIND OF PRIVATE SPACE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY RENT THAT OUT. ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I HAD PLAYED WITH, I'D SEEN SOME HISTORIC BLACK COLLEGES TALKING ABOUT CREATING SWIMMING PROGRAMS AND CREATING SCHOLARSHIPS AND EVERYTHING. WELL, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, OF HBCUS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, IN MAKING EAST POINT THAT LOCATION FOR THAT TYPE OF COMPETITION AND HAVING SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, WOULD CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS. BUT IN GENERAL SOMEWHERE AROUND 67.7 MAXIMUM ON THAT THE CITY HALL, LIKE I SAID, AROUND 5.2. AND THAT'S THAT'S INCLUDING, BY THE WAY, THE CITY HALL AT 5.2, INCLUDING THE HISTORIC AUDITORIUM AROUND 7.5 AND AGAIN, THE BASELINE RECREATION CENTER OF 33 MILLION. ALL THOSE ADDED UP TO AROUND THAT 67.7. AND THAT'S STILL BELOW THE 70 CAP. SO WE STILL COULD DO A LIBRARY OR DO SOMETHING PROGRAMING AROUND. THEN THERE THE LOWER THAT NUMBER GOES DOWN, THE LOWER OUR DEBT SERVICE, THE SMALLER THE GAP THAT WE WOULD FEEL BETWEEN HAVING HOTEL MOTEL BEING OUR OUR DEBT SERVICE ON A ON A ONGOING BASIS WITH THE HOTEL MOTEL 6 MILLION BEING OUR RAINY DAY. GAP FINANCE WHATEVER KINDS OF UNIQUE THINGS COME THROUGH THROWN OUR WAY DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS. AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR NOW, BUT THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL. AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. WE CAN DEFINITELY PICK THIS BACK UP AGAIN. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT UTILIZING THE OLD CITY HALL FOR COURT SYSTEM. SO YOU WOULD BASICALLY GUT THE BUILDING OUT. RESTRUCTURE THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT BUILDING IS IN. I KNOW THE DOWNSTAIRS PART IS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A COURTROOM UPSTAIRS ON A HIGHER LEVEL, BECAUSE BEFORE THERE WAS EVER CITY HALL, I MEAN THE AUDITORIUM THAT USED TO HOLD COUNCIL MEETING UP THERE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. SO THERE IS A CHAMBERS UPSTAIRS, AND I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CLOSED UP FOR SO LONG. BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS AND I KNOW THE CVB TALKED ABOUT SPACE FOR HOLDING CONVENTIONS. HAVE WE LOOKED AT SOMETHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HOLD CONVENTIONS THAT WOULD GET MORE HOTEL MOTEL MONEY IN HERE. WELL, I THINK THAT COULD BE A GREAT OPTION, PARTICULARLY CONNECTED TO THE THE THE RECREATION CENTER PROJECT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF [04:15:01] HAVING A HOTEL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THAT REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO USING HOTEL MOTEL FOR THAT REASON, BUT THEN ALSO CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD MORE. AND SO IF WE HAD SOME SPACE THAT COULD ACTUALLY HANDLE THAT SIZE OF, OF VENUES, THAT MAKES IT EVEN BETTER OF AN OPPORTUNITY. AND WHAT ABOUT THE AUDITORIUM? I KNOW THAT AT THE TIME I FORGOT WHAT IT HOLD, MAYBE 3500 PEOPLE. SO IS THAT AN OPTION AS WELL? IT POTENTIALLY COULD. I KNOW WITH THE THE SPACE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TRACK DOWN HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE WE GOT TO WORK WITH, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO USE THAT IN THE NUMBER ESTIMATES. AND I COULDN'T GET A REAL CLEAR SPOT FROM THE DOCUMENTS I WAS LOOKING AT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S REALLY BIG FOR THE TYPE OF VENUES THAT THAT I HAD BEEN HEARING THAT CVB HAS BEEN HOPING TO GET OR HOPING TO LOOK INTO. SO THAT'S THAT SPACE MAY NOT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING THAT IF THE LIBRARY IS RIGHT THERE, MAYBE THAT'S LIKE THE GREEN ROOM FOR BIG ACTS OR, OR BIGGER TYPE OF ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS. AND WE JUST HAVE LIKE SOME TYPE OF CONNECTION BECAUSE THE BACKS OF THE STAGE WALL IS RIGHT THERE KIND OF LIBRARY. SO MAYBE THERE'S A CONNECTING PIECE AND JUST BRINGING THAT SPACE INTO THAT, INTO AN OVERALL TYPE OF VENUE OR SOMETHING. OR WE JUST FOCUS ON SOMETHING MUCH MORE INTIMATE AND HAVE THINGS LIKE THE DANCE COMPANY DO SPECIAL SHOWINGS OR COMEDY CLUBS OR I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT REALLY WE WOULD KIND OF HIGHLIGHT IN THE RFP AND SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC SECTOR HAS OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE REC CENTER. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WILL WHAT THE END PROJECT IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THE END RESULT WILL BE. BUT I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF WORKING WITH A $33 MILLION BUDGET. I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED IT TO PEOPLE BEFORE ABOUT THE IF EVERYBODY JUST IF YOU CAN, IF YOU GOOGLE IT AT SOME POINT. BUT THE BIRMINGHAM CROSS PLEX, THIS IS A FACILITY THAT WAS BUILT IN 2011. 750,000FT². I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SPACE WAS WILL PROBABLY BE ON A SMALLER SCALE, BUT JUST A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PLACE. MY DAUGHTER, SHE RAN TRACK THAT SHE WENT IN A COUPLE COMPETITIONS, BUT THEY HAVE AN INDOOR TRACK SYSTEM WITH THE HYDRAULIC SYSTEM, WHICH MEANS THAT THE THE CURVES THEY RAISE UP, THERE'S A 50 METER OLYMPIC SIZE INDOOR SWIMMING POOL MEETING SPACE WITH 5000 SQUARE SQUARE FEET, AND THEY HAVE VIP SUITES AND AN INDOOR VOLLEYBALL COURTS. AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT IT HAD ON IT, THEY ESTIMATED INITIALLY THE FIRST YEAR IT WOULD BE 13 MILLION, BUT IT ACTUALLY GENERATED $20 MILLION WITHIN THE SECOND YEAR. AND THEY ALSO SAID THAT THE CROSSPLEX IS ESTIMATED TO HAVE AN ANNUAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF $100 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING OUT A FACILITY WHERE YOU CAN HOST SWIM MEETS, TRACK MEETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IT PRETTY MUCH WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE STUFF WITH THE BONDS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE'LL PROBABLY NEED THAT INITIALLY TO KIND OF GET IT STARTED. HOTEL, MOTEL. BUT IF WE CREATE A SPACE THERE WHERE YOU HAVE MEETING SPACE WHERE YOU CAN HOST VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS, WHERE YOU CAN DO TRACK MEETS, YOU CAN DO THE SWIMMING IN WITH A BUILDING OUT A NATATORIUM THERE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY WORTH LOOKING AT. EVENTS THAT THEY HOSTED THIS CROSSPLEX ALSO STATE VOLLEYBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS THE NCAA, NCAA CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS NCAA DIVISION TWO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT THEY DO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BUILD SOMETHING EXACTLY LIKE THAT, BUT DEFINITELY IF WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND MIMIC, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY HAVE THERE WHERE WE CREATE A FACILITY THAT WOULD, IN ESSENCE, EVENTUALLY GET TO A POINT, DID IT PAY FOR ITSELF? SO JUST A THOUGHT. I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. OKAY. AND SOMETHING I DIDN'T COVER, WHICH YOU TOTALLY REMINDED ME OF IS THE THE NEED TO INVOLVE FEASIBILITY STUDIES. SO NOT ALL PROJECTS YOU NEED THAT, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A PRIVATE PARTNER PIECE OF OF A OF A PROJECT, YOU USUALLY WANT TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY. NOT SO MUCH THAT IT MATTERS TO THE BOND ISSUER, BECAUSE GOING BACK TO MY EARLIER THOUGHT, WE GET THE BIG BOND AND THEN WE HAVE ENTERPRISE FUNDS WITHIN THAT THAT WE DO INTER-DEPARTMENTAL LOANS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THOSE FEASIBILITY STUDIES FOR THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES COME IN REAL, REAL IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IN SOME CASES THAT IF WE DO DO REALLY WELL AT [04:20:02] IT, THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO PAY OUR BONDS OFF EARLY, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE ARE STRUCTURED THAT YOU ACTUALLY PAY PENALTIES FOR. YOU MIGHT GET A GOOD RATE EARLY ON, BUT THEN IF YOU YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF IT, YOU'RE KIND OF STUCK WITH IT OVER THE WHOLE 30 YEAR PERIOD. AND SO IF YOU HAVE A GOOD FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT GIVES YOU REALLY STRONG INDICATORS, THEN YOU MAY NEGOTIATE, GO AHEAD AND PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEREST ON THE BOND, BECAUSE WE FEEL REALLY STRONG THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PAY IT OFF EARLY. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. MY QUESTION IS REALLY AROUND THE DEBT SERVICE NUMBER. I THINK I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS, ONE AT THE DOUBLE A RATING. DID YOU SAY 4.5 MILLION ANNUALLY OR 5.5. 4.5. 4.5. OKAY. AND AT AN A PLUS, THAT WOULD BE 1.2 MORE. SO YEAH, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE THERE I DIDN'T REALLY SAY WHAT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE OVERALL, I WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE HOW MUCH MORE THAT WOULD COST US. SO IF WE SAY WENT TO A, A PLUS AT THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT I HAD MENTIONED, THE 4.5 AT, IT WOULD COST US ANOTHER 1.2 MILLION OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. OVER 30 A PERIOD OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD. OKAY. GOTCHA. I APPRECIATE ALL THIS INFORMATION. I DO WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE TO REALLY GO THROUGH IT, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S COMPREHENSIVE AND A LOT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST SAW HERE ON PAGE 39 SOME OF THE SUCCESSFUL MUNICIPAL EXAMPLES, ONE OF THEM IS IN THE REGION IN SMYRNA, THE WOLF CENTER POOL. AND JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU HAD CONSIDERED MAYBE DOING A TRIP. I REMEMBER WHEN THE OTHER CITY MANAGER JONES WAS HERE WE DID A TRIP, I THINK, TO SUWANEE TO LOOK AT THE CITY HALL BEFORE THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT. I THINK WE DID A TOUR OF A FEW, A FEW, A FEW FACILITIES WITHIN THE REGION, BUT JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT JUST SO THAT WE COULD SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, IT SAID I BELIEVE A POOL AND ATHLETIC COMPLEX MULTI-PURPOSE. SO THAT WAS JUST AN IDEA. NO 100% IS IS, I WOULD ALMOST SAY ALMOST MANDATORY. BUT DEFINITELY YOU WANT TO KNOW THE SUCCESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN THERE. YOU WANT TO KNOW THE SUCCESS OVER THE LONG HAUL, LONG HAUL OF THAT. SO EVERYTHING LOOKS REALLY GOOD WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU KNOW, ON THE GLOSSY. BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GET THERE, IT'S LIKE, NO, YOU KNOW, 20, 20, 21 WAS A REALLY TOUGH YEAR OR WHATEVER IT IS. YOU WANT TO HEAR THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND HOW THOSE MUNICIPALITIES MANAGE THROUGH THOSE TIGHT YEARS, AS WELL AS THE CELEBRATION OF ACTUALLY HAVING THE FACILITY. SO YOU ONLY REALLY GET THAT WHEN YOU GO THERE AND, AND GET, YOU KNOW, THE INS AND OUT OF A PARTICULAR PROJECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I'LL LOOK THROUGH WHAT YOU PROVIDED, BUT I THINK A COUPLE THINGS HOTEL, MOTEL TAX FUNDS COULD BE A SOURCE, BUT DURING COVID, THEY REDUCED BY 70%. AND IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF INSTABILITY AND PROJECTIONS OF RECESSIONS OR JUST DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING. THAT MAY IMPACT THE. RELIABILITY OF HOTEL MOTEL TAX FUNDS AS IT RELATES TO THE 6 MILLION YOU KNOW, THAT WE SHOULD REFER TO IT AS SAVINGS. THERE WAS. AND I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT OFFLINE ABOUT SOME OF THIS, BUT THAT MONEY THERE NEEDS TO BE AN AUDITING TO DETERMINE WHICH BUCKET IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN OUT OF. LIKE, IS ALL OF IT REALLY TPD FUNDS OR, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW MUCH IS AVAILABLE AND PROBABLY SHOULD BE USING THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED FEASIBILITY STUDIES. IF ANY OF THIS IS GOING TO BE THROUGH REVENUE BONDS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE BOND AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PROJECTING CAN ACTUALLY BE SERVICED THROUGH THE REVENUE FROM WHATEVER TYPE FACILITY, WHETHER IT IS COURTS OR THE RECREATION CENTER. [04:25:01] AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT WHEN THERE WAS THE WHOLE BUILD, SAVE THE BLOCK MOVEMENT SOME TIME AGO AND JUST OVER THE YEARS, THERE'VE ALSO BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HAVING SOME PART OF THE OLD CITY HALL BE LIKE A WELCOME CENTER FROM A TOURISM ATTRACTION PERSPECTIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO USE THAT IN THAT WAY THOSE ARE JUST SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS. AGAIN, IF WE ARE THE I THINK IT WAS INSTALLMENT SALES CONTRACT, WHATEVER THE ONE IS, THAT'S BASICALLY A BACK DOOR AROUND THE PEOPLE ON THE GEO BOND. I WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE US FROM DOING THAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT I THINK WHAT'S THE SECOND OPTION? IT WAS GEO BOND, AND THEN IT WAS LIKE AN INSTALLMENT SALES CONTRACT, SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT THAT BASICALLY ACTS LIKE A GEO BOND JUST DOESN'T REQUIRE RESIDENT APPROVAL, BUT STILL USES THE GOOD FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY TO BACK IT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING BACK DOOR. I THINK WE SHOULD GO TO THE PEOPLE AND DEFINITELY HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO EXPLORE IDEAS. LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS MENTIONED. LIKE WHATEVER THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DESTINATIONS WE WANT TO CONSIDER, WE SHOULD GET RESIDENT INPUT PUT AND FEEDBACK. JUST KIND OF SHARING IT AS THIS IS AN IDEA. WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT ARE OTHER IDEAS LIKE HAVING MORE COMMUNITY INPUT? AS IT RELATES TO THE DESTINATIONS WE USE WE CREATE WITHIN OUR CITY. SO I OTHER LIGHTS YOU SHARED THE PRESENTATION IN YOUR MIND. WHAT'S NEXT? STEPS ON THIS? SHOULD WE PLAY SOMETHING ON THE UPCOMING AGENDA? WAS WAS TIMELINE OR WHAT? WHAT WAS NEXT STEP ACTIONS. WELL, I LIKE TO YOU KNOW, THESE ARE GOT SOME REALLY GENERAL NUMBERS AND ALL. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH COURTNEY TO WORK ON THIS DOCUMENT. I'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVING A LITTLE DEEPER ON WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE. AND I IDENTIFIED SOME OF THEM IN, IN THE, IN THIS PLAN ALL THE NEXT STEPS MAY BE CUSTOMIZED TO EACH PROJECT BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT ALL BE THE SAME TYPE OF NEXT STEPS, BUT I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. WE'RE ALSO GETTING CLOSE TO GETTING SOME HAVING SOME HEAVY, HEAVIER CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR DESIGN WITH THE RECREATION CENTER AND PARKS DIRECTOR HAS ASKED ME TO, TO BEGIN TO SIT IN ON THE WEEKLY MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE THERE ON THAT DESIGN, AS THAT GETS A LITTLE MORE REFINED. AND WE'LL BE CERTAINLY BRINGING, BRINGING THOSE THOSE THAT INFORMATION BACK TO COUNCIL ONCE WE GET BEYOND A CERTAIN POINT. AND I'M NOT REAL SURE WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF DESIGN THAT WE'VE COMPLETED, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS. NONE OF THIS OBVIOUSLY HAPPENS WITHOUT US GETTING OUR AUDITS DONE. SO GETTING OUR AUDITS DONE AND REFINING SOME OF OUR IDEAS. TONIGHT AND LOOKING AT WHAT FINANCIAL STRATEGY MAKES SENSE IN, IN DRILLING DOWN THAT I THINK MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH A FINANCIAL ADVISOR WILL HELP ME HONE THAT IN BEFORE WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL. SO YOU WANT TO COME BACK AT THE SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION OR OCTOBER? THAT MIGHT BE I'LL TRY TO SEPTEMBER, BUT OCTOBER SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE REALISTIC. SO OCTOBER WORK SESSION. THAT'S OCTOBER. MY PHONE IS ABOUT TO DIE. OCTOBER 13TH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS CREDIT CARD POLICY AND TRAVEL POLICY. SO AT LEAST THE CREDIT CARD POLICY. I WILL SAY WITH THE TRAVEL POLICY, I KNOW THAT ELIZABETH IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT. THERE'S A, A DRAFT POLICY. I HADN'T HAD TO REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO PICK THAT UP TO GO INTO ANY GREAT DETAIL IN IT. BUT THE CREDIT CARD POLICY. HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. AND SO YOU HAVE A 70 PAGE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU. YEAH, YEAH. AND SO WHAT, IT'S REALLY MADE UP OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT [04:30:05] SAMPLE POLICIES. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ONE POLICY THAT THAT'S 70 PAGES. BUT IT IS IT IS MADE UP OF OF SEVERAL POLICIES. POLICIES. SO WHAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE IN, IN THAT DOCUMENT. THERE, THERE IS GEORGIA MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION MODEL PURCHASING CARD POLICY. THAT'S WHERE PAGES 4 TO 7. THE CITY OF MONROE THEIR SAMPLE POLICY, 8 TO 14. AUGUSTA. THEY HAVE A VERY THOROUGH POLICY. 15 TO 41, PAGES 15 TO 41. WE DID GET SOMETHING BACK FROM FROM REGIONS BANK. THEY HAD SAMPLE POLICY THAT'S 42 TO 54. AND THEN OUR OWN CITY ATTORNEY REGIONS BANK, OUR BANKING PARTNER. YEAH. THEY ACTUALLY HAD A SAMPLE POLICY THAT THEY SENT IN. AND THEN OUR, OUR CURRENT POLICY IS AT THE BACK OF THE DOCUMENT, WHICH IS, IS REDLINED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S REVIEW OF, OF THAT. SO I CAN COVER JUST SOME, SOME THE BASICS THAT I THINK IS IN, IN COMMON ELEMENTS IN ALL OF THESE POLICIES. I THINK ELIGIBILITY AND INSURANCE CITY ISSUED CREDIT CARDS MAY BE PROVIDED TO THE MAYOR AND, AND COUNCIL PERSONS UPON WRITTEN REQUEST AND APPROVED BY CITY MANAGER OR FINANCE DIRECTOR. EACH CARD IS ASSIGNED TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND MUST NOT BE USED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN THE NAMED CARDHOLDER. THE OTHER COMMENT ELEMENT IS PERMITTED. USE MANY OF THESE POLICIES. CLEARLY STATE THAT THE CITY CAR CITY CREDIT CARD SHALL ONLY BE USED BY THE AUTHORIZED FOR CITY BUSINESS, INCLUDING CONFERENCES, FEES, TRAVEL, LODGING, MEALS RELATED TO OFFICIAL DUTIES, MEMBERSHIPS, AND SUBSCRIPTIONS TO GOVERNMENT OR PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. OFFICIAL MEETING EXPENSES SUCH AS COMMUNITY FORUMS OR OUTREACH EVENTS. PROHIBITED USE. THE FOLLOWING USES ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PERSONNEL OR NON CITY RELATED EXPENSES OF ANY KIND. PERSONAL OR NON CITY RELATED EXPENSES. CASH ADVANCES OR ATM WITHDRAWALS NOT ALLOWED. OBVIOUSLY ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS OR ENTERTAINMENT EXPENSES NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS DONATIONS, CAMPAIGN EXPENSES, OR PURCHASES INTENDED TO INFLUENCE ELECTIONS. ANOTHER COMMON ELEMENT IS DOCUMENTATION AND RECONCILIATION. ALL PURCHASES MUST BE SUPPORTED BY ITEMIZED RECEIPTS AND ANY AND AN EXPLANATION OF THE PUBLIC PURPOSE. ALSO SERVED STATEMENTS MUST BE SUBMITTED MONTHLY AND RECONCILED WITHIN TEN BUSINESS DAYS OF RECEIPT. CARDHOLDERS MUST SIGN AND ATTEST TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY. EACH EACH STATEMENT CYCLE SPENDING LIMITS MONTHLY AND PER TRANSACTION LIMITS ARE SET BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER. EXPECTATIONS REQUIRE PRE-APPROVAL IN WRITING BY THE CITY MANAGER. MISUSE AND THIS DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS MISUSE MAY RESULT IN SUSPENSION OF CARD PRIVILEGES, REPAYMENT OF FUNDS, FORMAL CENSURE OR REFERRAL TO LEGAL AUTHORITIES. DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY. VIOLATIONS WILL BE REPORTED TO THE FULL COUNCIL AND DOCUMENTED IN PUBLIC RECORD. AND RETURN AND TERMINATION CARDS MUST BE RETURNED UPON END OF TERM, RESIGNATION OR REMOVAL FROM OFFICE OR UPON REQUEST BY THE CITY MANAGER. ANY OUTSTANDING CHARGES MUST BE RESOLVED PRIOR TO DEPARTURE. SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE COMMON WITHIN ALL OF THESE. AND AGAIN, I THINK THE, THE WHAT MIGHT BE IS, SINCE IT'S A LARGE DOCUMENT, GIVE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF LOOK [04:35:06] THROUGH THESE CIRCLE STUFF THAT YOU MIGHT LIKE OR. THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN OURS. AND THEN WE COME BACK I MEAN, FOR THOSE THINGS TO. TO EITHER MY OFFICE OR THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND WE'LL COME BACK AND KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT. WITH THAT. AND THEN WE CAN PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GETTING IT ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU WANT TO SEPARATE CREDIT CARD POLICY. AND TRAVEL POLICY SAID THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON TRAVEL. YES. THIS IS OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION OR OCTOBER WORK SESSION. I THINK WE CAN, ESPECIALLY IF COUNCIL IS REALLY EAGER TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK BACK INTO ME. WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT AT SEPTEMBER. ALL RIGHT. SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION, MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK. NEXT UP, COMMISSION ON AGING. [III.11. Council Discussion and Possible Action on City of East Point Board/Commission on Aging] YES. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT TOO. IT'S BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR QUITE A FEW TIMES. WE NOW HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR IT, WHICH WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY. WHAT ORDINANCE? OH, YOU MEAN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE? YES. WE'VE HAD IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE? YEAH, IT'S. I MEAN, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER GONE THROUGH THE ORDINANCE. I THINK WE GOT THE DRAFT. OKAY, WELL, THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH TALK THROUGH THE ORDINANCE. I'M READY. ONE SECOND. LET ME PULL OUT MY NOTES. ALL RIGHT. IT IS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE EASTPOINTE BOARD AND COMMISSION ON AGING. THE REQUEST WAS SOLELY BASED UPON A COMMISSION ON AGING, WHICH WILL BE TASKED WITH ADDRESSING THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS OF THE AGING POPULATION IN EASTPOINTE. MEMBERS SERVE ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO ADDRESS THE SPECIAL NEEDS OF THE ELDERLY AS IT RELATES TO, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION, PEDESTRIAN WALKS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, ETC., SANITATION SERVICES, PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, RECREATION SERVICES, HOUSING AND SOCIAL SUPPORT SERVICES. IT IS MADE UP OF TEN VOTING MEMBERS APPOINTED IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. TWO REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE. THIS ORDINANCE. NINE. ONE BY THE MAYOR AND ONE FROM HE'S. COUNCIL MEMBER. ONE BY THE WELL. SHE HAS IT. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MODELED BY THIS RIGHT HERE. I HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER OF MEMBERS. YOU USED TO HAVE AN ODD NUMBER. OKAY. IT'S MADE UP OF NINE VOTING MEMBERS APPOINTED IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. I'LL HAVE THE CORRECTION TO THIS, BUT ONE REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER WILL ALSO APPOINT A MEMBER. THE MEETING SCHEDULE, FIRST TUESDAY ISSUE SUBMISSION SHOULD BE MADE ELECTRONICALLY TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSION ON AGING FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS, WHICH WILL BE OPTIONAL. CHANEL. THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION ON AGING IS THE NEED FOR A COMPREHENSIVE SUPPORT. STRUCTURES FOR SENIOR CITIZENS HAS BEEN NEVER MORE CRITICAL. CENTRAL TO THIS SUPPORT SYSTEM IN MANY COMMUNITIES IS THE COMMISSION ON AGING, A PIVOTAL ENTITY DEDICATED TO ADVOCATING FOR, SUPPORTING AND ENRICHING THE LIVES OF THE ELDERLY. AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY DRAFTED THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS FOUND INSIDE THE PACKET ON PAGE 136. AS I WAS GIVING A DESCRIPTION, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, ON THE INSERT PAGE ON ONE OF TWO, IT SAYS IT'S MADE UP OF TEN VOTING MEMBERS, BUT THE ORDINANCE SAYS NINE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION OR NOT. NINE. BUT IT'S INSIDE THE ORDINANCE. THE OBJECTIVES AND PURPOSE ARE INSIDE OF THE DOCUMENT AND MEMBERSHIP. [04:40:03] THE TERMS IN OFFICE IF A MEMBER DECIDES TO RESIGN. OFFICERS AND STAFF. SECTION TWO. THE VICE PRESIDENT. SECRETARY OF CORRESPONDING SECRETARY. STAFF AND WHEN MEETINGS ARE HELD, QUORUM AND VOTING ABSENCES, AND ALSO THE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ARE A PART OF THIS COMMISSION, WHICH WILL BE TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING COMMITTEE, QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE, SAFETY, EDUCATION AND AWARENESS COMMITTEE. AND THE ORDINANCE IS IN THE PACKET PAGE 141 THROUGH 143. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. QUICK QUESTION. WHO'S GOING TO APPOINT THE SUBCOMMITTEE? WHY? THE COMMITTEE CAN'T DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THEY ARE. THEY DO IT WITHIN THE COMMITTEE. NO ONE APPOINTS. SO THEN IT WOULDN'T BE A SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY CAN ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. YEAH. SO THEY CAN ADDRESS THOSE SAME ISSUES? YES. WITHOUT SAYING THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE FORMED. I DON'T THINK THAT IT SAYS SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. OKAY. AND IF ONE IF SOMEBODY RESIGNS, THEN THAT COUNCIL PERSON HAS TO REPLACE THAT SEAT. YES. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ONE COMMITTEE. NO SUBCOMMITTEES UP UNDER THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. PAGE 142 TERMS OF SERVICE NUMBER ONE. AND THIS IS EITHER FOR MADAM ATTORNEY OR COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. MEMBERS SHALL SERVE A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF I AM APPOINTED, BUT THEN FIND THAT MY BANDWIDTH IS JUST TOO MUCH, I CAN'T SERVE EFFECTIVELY. AM I NOT ABLE TO ROLL OFF AND SOMEONE ELSE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. I THINK WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT YOUR YOUR APPOINTMENT CAN BE BASED ON NUMBER TWO. YOU CAN BE TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS, SO IT CAN BE STAGGERED, BUT THE MINIMUM IS TWO. THERE'S NO APPOINTMENT FOR JUST ONE YEAR. OKAY. I THINK PEOPLE, IF YOU DECIDE YOU NO LONGER WANT TO SERVE LIKE SOMEBODY CAN SERVE. SOMEBODY CAN TURN SO THEY CAN SERVE UNEXPIRED TERM. THEY CAN SERVE OUT THAT TERM OF TWO YEARS, OR THEY CAN RESIGN DURING THEIR TERM OF TWO YEARS. AND THEN THEY WOULD JUST NEED TO BE REPLACED FOR SOMEONE TO, TO SERVE THE UNEXPIRED PORTION THEREOF. OKAY. OKAY. JUST THE WAY THAT I READ IT, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS THAT YOU HAD TO SERVE. IT SAYS MEMBERS SHALL SERVE FOR A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS. SO IT SHOULD SAY THE TERM SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS, AS OPPOSED TO YOU HAVE TO SERVE TWO YEARS. YEAH. SO JUST LANGUAGE THERE. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT ME. I HAVEN'T REALLY GONE OVER IN GREAT DETAIL. BUT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. YOU'RE IN FROM EARLIER. OH, I DID NOT SEE WHERE COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS WAS TALKING ABOUT TEN YEARS IN THE ACTUAL LEGISLATIVE DOCUMENT. IT SAYS NINE. THE OTHER DOCUMENT I DIDN'T DRAFT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM. BUT ON PAGE 134, IT SAYS TEN. SO ONE MORE TIME ON PAGE 134. THE DESCRIPTION IT SAYS TEN. BUT IN THE LEGISLATIVE DOCUMENT IT SAYS NINE. THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE PAGE 134 CAME FROM. I DIDN'T DRAFT THAT, BUT I THINK THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU NEED TO GET THIS APPROVED IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. SO IT REQUIRES WAIVER OF FIRST READING AND THAT SO AGENDA IF IT GOES TO MONDAY IT CAN'T BE ON CONSENT. YOU WANT IT ON MONDAY'S AGENDA. I THINK THAT WILL EVERYONE HAVE IT READ? [04:45:02] I MEAN, IF NOT, IF IT DOESN'T PASS, IT'S A 60 DAY WAIT, SO THAT'S FINE. NINE. WHAT'S THAT? 18. NO. EIGHT. 18. AGENDA, MADAM. THANK YOU. AND INDICATE WAIVER FIRST. LIKE THE ORDINANCE STUFF. NUMBER 13, COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CAMP CREEK TAB. [III.13. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Camp Creek TAD] MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT THREE MORE LEFT. THE CAMP CREEK TAB, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. IN COMMUNICATION WITH ATTORNEY CHARLES JOHNSON. SO YOU WANT THIS ONE MOVED? WHO HAS BEEN THE CITY'S TAD ATTORNEY FOR SOME TIME INDICATED THAT THAT TAD HAS BEEN PAID IN FULL AND IS A RIPE FOR ENDING. IN FACT, I LEARNED FROM HIM THAT CLOSING OUT THAT TAD WOULD REDUCE WHAT'S THE WORD HE USED? REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF THANK YOU TAX ALLOCATION THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. IS THAT THE WORD YOU SAID MAYOR TAX DIGEST, TAX DIGEST. THANK YOU THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE TO POTENTIALLY CREATE A NEW TAD IN A NEW AREA. I KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE CLEVELAND AVENUE TAD. THAT'S ONE THAT HE'S SPOKEN TO US ABOUT. UNDER THE GUISE OF REAL ESTATE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT IT AGAIN. NOT TONIGHT, BUT YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IT AGAIN. AND SO GIVEN THE STATUS OF THE CAMP CAMP CREEK. TAD. I WAS ASKED TO BRING THAT BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT. THE ISSUE OF THE COUNTY'S PARTICIPATION IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE CLEVELAND AVENUE TAB THAT IS STILL ALIVE. BUT IT WOULD, AS I SAID EARLIER, REDUCE THE TAX DIGEST, GIVING THE CITY THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY START A NEW ONE. AND THE OTHER THING I ADD IS THAT THE ATTORNEY, JOHNSON, SAID THAT HE SHARED A RESOLUTION WITH US PREVIOUSLY TO TERMINATE THE CAMP CREEK TAB, BUT IT NEVER GOT APPROVED. SO BRINGING IT BACK FOR THAT HAS BEEN RETIRED, AND THAT'S THIS. ALL PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN TERMINATED. AND I REVIEWED THAT RESOLUTION AND IT SAYS EXACTLY THAT. IT IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, AND I CAN CERTAINLY RECIRCULATE IT IF YOU GUYS DON'T STILL HAVE IT. THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY. IF COUNCIL HAS NO QUESTIONS, I MEAN, WE COULD EITHER PLACE THE RESOLUTION ON CONSENT OR PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA. MR. JONES? YES. I JUST WANTED TO STATE THE OBVIOUS THAT IT WOULD ALSO CREATE A BOOST IN OUR ASSESSED VALUES IN THAT AREA. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES EARLIER ABOUT HAVING A DEFICIT THAT CERTAINLY WILL GO A LONG WAY, HELPING US CLOSE THAT GAP. I DON'T SEE ANYONE'S LIGHT ON. IS. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE RESOLUTION TERMINATING THE CAMP CREEK TAG GOING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. CONSENT. THAT SEGUES INTO CONTINUED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE INNOVATION DISTRICT OR [III.14. Coucncil Discussion on Innovation District/TAD] TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT. I THINK THIS IDEA IS KIND OF LIKE CAMP CREEK. WHEN CAMP CREEK TAG WAS CREATED, I WASN'T HERE, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS JUST TREES AND A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE AREA OVER AT THE GATEWAY OF HAYESVILLE AND EAST POINT WHERE ONE CATALYTIC SITE IS THE OLD ON SITE, BUT THAT IS NOT THE THE TAG DISCUSSION OR THE TAG DECISION I DON'T THINK SHOULD BE BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT IT CAME UP BY THE DEVELOPER AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER ALSO INQUIRED ABOUT CITY AND CITY INITIATED REZONING OF PROPERTY OR THAT PROPERTY IN THAT AREA. AND THOSE QUESTIONS GAVE RISE TO CONVERSATIONS AROUND IF WE CREATE A NEW TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT, CLEARLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCENTIVIZE INDUSTRIAL. AND SO THE QUESTION BY THE DEVELOPER ABOUT CITY INITIATED REZONING AS [04:50:10] WE THINK THROUGH IT, IF WE THINK THROUGH IT LOGICALLY KIND OF MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO CREATE A TIE IN THAT AREA TO JUST LIKE CAMP CREEK DID, LIKE, I MEAN, BUSINESSES IN CAMP CREEK ARE LIKE NUMBER ONE IN THEIR CHAIN. IT'S BEEN A VERY BIG ECONOMIC ENGINE. THERE ARE CONCEPTS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE ON ONE OF THE PROPERTIES OVER THERE. BUT THE IDEA THE TIDE IS REALLY TRYING TO CREATE AN AREA IN A DISTRICT WHERE ONE IT WILL HELP PROVIDE INCREMENT AND HELP WITH FINANCING OF DEVELOPMENTS AND PROJECTS IN THAT AREA, BUT ALSO THAT THEY ARE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE. INCENTIVIZE. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CITY INITIATED REZONING, THE TWO NEW ZONING DISTRICTS WE CREATED AFTER THE INDUSTRIAL MORATORIUM OF MIXED USE COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL. I MEAN, THERE ARE MAJORITY OF PROPERTIES OVER THERE OUTSIDE THE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS AROUND THESE PROPERTIES ARE INDUSTRIAL. THERE'S SOME I CALL IT THE CONCRETE JUNGLE BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE LITERALLY THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT OVER THERE. THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE PLUS ACRES, AND IT'S LITERALLY LIKE A CONCRETE SLAB ON TOP OF ASPHALT LEVELED. AND THEN A. SINGLE STOREY CONCRETE LARGE BUILDING. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER. BUSINESSES OVER IN THAT AREA. THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT ADAPTIVE REUSE AND INNOVATION AROUND ENERGY CREATION AND GENERATION, THAT IS MUCH NEEDED AROUND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE. BUT OTHERS IN THAT AREA THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CREATION OF A NEW TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT TO SPUR INNOVATION THE THE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT LIKE OR THINK ABOUT WHAT AREA LIKE DRAW THE LINES. THE. CAMP CREEK. SO EACH TAB NEEDS A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IN ORDER TO BE CREATED. THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS ALSO TIMING. IN ORDER TO SPUR THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN IS BEING CONSIDERED BY DEVELOPER OVER THERE IN THAT AREA. BUT ANY OTHERS, IN ORDER FOR THE TAX INCREMENT BENEFIT TO BE AVAILABLE NEXT YEAR WE WOULD NEED TO GET THIS CREATED BY DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR. IF IT'S NOT CREATED BY DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, THEN IT WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST OF NEXT YEAR. SO WE LOSE A WHOLE YEAR. AND A WHOLE YEAR OF OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS AS AN AVAILABLE TOOL TO INCENTIVIZE INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA. WHAT WAS SHARED BY MR. JOHNSON IS THAT THE CAMP CREEK, THE CAMP CREEK REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CAMP CREEK TAD WAS ACTUALLY DONE BY THE DEVELOPER. THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE COURT ESTATE WAS DONE BY THE CITY THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHO ENGAGED A PROFESSIONAL TO DO THE STUDY. WE HAVE THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, AND A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THIS AREA IS ALREADY IN THAT STUDY. SO THAT STUDY COULD BE A SPRINGBOARD FOR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT CANNOT BE USED AS THE ACTUAL REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE WITHIN IT THAT COULD HELP US ACCELERATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. MR. JOHNSON SAID HE SPOKE WITH THE COMPANY WHO DID THE ONE FOR THE QUARTERS, TAD, AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN TO TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THIS AREA. SO I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS AGAIN, THE TIMING OF THEM AND THE TIMING OF THE CREATION WILL IMPACT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO INCENTIVIZE OR ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, PROVIDE SOME FINANCING TOOL AROUND TAX INCREMENT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE USED. THAT AREA DEFINITELY IS AN AREA THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CALL IT BLIGHTED, BUT AN AREA WHERE GENERALLY YOU WANT TO SPUR REDEVELOPMENT AND ADAPTIVE REUSE. AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONINGS ARE IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA [04:55:07] THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE VERSUS THE, THE THE ZONINGS THAT ARE THERE. AND SO BRINGING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE TWO TRACKS. THERE IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE TAB, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN WHATEVER DEFINED BOUNDARIES. SO WE HAVE TO DEFINE LIKE THE BOUNDARY AREA CONSIDER CITY INITIATED REZONING OF PARCELS AND THEN CREATION OF THE TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT, WHICH IN ORDER TO HELP WITH PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED, IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL IF THIS IS DONE BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THAT INCREMENT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE TAB AREA. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA. I I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT MAY NOT BE ANSWERED TONIGHT, BUT THINGS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. THE FIRST THING IS THE PROPERTY ON SYLVAN ROAD ENROLLED IN THAT AREA IS IN THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE. SO THIS MAY BE A WAY FOR US TO ENHANCE THAT TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT TOO, BECAUSE THERE'S THERE ARE BENEFITS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALSO. AND THEN OTHER QUESTION I HAVE HOW DOES THIS AFFECT OR HOW DOES IT WORK WITH THE TAD WHERE THE ON CLEVELAND AVENUE? SO WE DID I DID ASK MR. JOHNSON ABOUT THAT. THIS PROPERTY ISN'T IN THAT AREA. THE SO EACH TAD HAS A GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES. I THINK THE CLEVELAND AVENUE COURT ATTACK KIND OF GOES MORE UP CLEVELAND TOWARDS MAIN STREET, BUT IT DOESN'T BRANCH OFF DOWN SYLVAN WHERE THIS AREA IS. WOULD YOU THINK THAT HOW FAR DOWN WOULD IT GO? WOULD IT INCLUDE THE PARKING ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PARK AND RIDE. AND THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO DO OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. YES. SO THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS THE DEVELOPERS HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH. IS THAT PEACH PARKING? WHO WAS OPEN AROUND INNOVATION WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT ENERGY INNOVATION. RIGHT. LIKE WE CAN'T BUILD ANOTHER VOGEL FIVE AND SIX LIKE VOGEL PLANT. VOGEL'S WHERE IT TOOK 3 TO 4 TIMES LONGER TO BUILD AND COST 3 TO 4 TIMES MORE MONEY. AND THEN WHEN THEY TURNED THE SWITCH ON, THEY STILL NEEDED MORE POWER. RIGHT. SO THE THE ENERGY INDUSTRY IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GENERATE POWER. YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE EVEN IN NEWER RECYCLING HAS SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH, BUT THERE MAY BE EVEN BENEFICIAL WAYS FROM AN ENERGETIC ENERGY GENERATION PERSPECTIVE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THAT. RIGHT. SO LIKE THE YOUR QUESTION IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT PARCELS IN THAT AREA WE WANT TO INCLUDE TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE A SIZABLE TAX DIGEST SO THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, BUT ALSO TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THAT AREA AND THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE CAN USE IN THAT AREA. THIS IS A PHENOMENAL IDEA. I REALLY SUPPORT IT. IN ADDITION TO THAT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT ENERGY AND SUPPLY AND ENERGY, THERE'S 1950S TECHNOLOGY CALLED MOLTEN SALT, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS USED, OR IT WAS COMPARED TO WHEN YOU USE NUCLEAR POWER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF WATER TO COOL DOWN REACTORS. SO THIS MOLTEN SALT AND THEY'RE DOING EXPERIMENTS IN SWITZERLAND AND CHINA ALREADY HAS A A TEST REACTOR. BUT IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO NUCLEAR ENERGY. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE WATER SO YOU CAN BUILD IT IN THE DESERT OR ANY PLACE, AND IT WILL PROVIDE JUST AS MUCH ENERGY AS A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. BUT THERE ARE CATCHES IN THAT, TOO. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOING THE EXPERIMENT WITH THAT. AND THEN I GUESS WE COULD DO SOLAR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE DRAWBACKS, THOUGH, IS SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED IS A BATTERY FARM. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE NEGATIVES TOO. BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. THEY THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO LIKE TO THE POINT OF PARKING OTHER PLACES AROUND THERE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOLAR PANELS. BUT WHAT IS A MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON RESIDENTS [05:00:02] AROUND IT WAY TO STORE ENERGY FROM SOLAR THAN A BATTERY STORAGE WHERE IF IT CATCHES ON FIRE, YOU JUST GOT TO LET IT BURN FOR DAYS TILL IT BURN OUT. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THINKING THAT. AND MIKEY CAME AND PRESENTED TO YOU ALL. KIND OF LIKE AN UPDATE, RIGHT? SO LIKE THAT'S THE KIND OF THINKING AROUND THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS SITE ALONG WITH MIXED USE. SO IT WOULDN'T JUST BE ENERGY, IT WOULD BE LIKE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE INNOVATION TYPE, FORWARD THINKING WAY OF LIVING, BUT ENERGY AND SOLVING FOR SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE INHERITED BECAUSE WE BOUGHT A LOT OF POWER AS AN INDUSTRIAL CITY AND NOW WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL BY IT, AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY THAT COMPATIBLE. BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT POTENTIALLY WE THINK INNOVATIVELY THAT WE COULD COULD DO SOME OF THAT. SO IF I COULD ADD TO THE CONVERSATION TOO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO, IS IF WE PROVIDE THESE INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT AT BIG COMPANIES TO BUILD AND DO RESEARCH. MAYBE A TECH CORRIDOR? YEAH, IN THAT AREA AROUND THE INNOVATION. AND SO I DON'T KNOW. BUT YEAH, I'M REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA. AND I THINK OUR MIXED USE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND THE WAREHOUSING WOULD ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THAT. RIGHT. AND WOULD HAVE ZONING IN PLACE, ONE THAT WOULD SAY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT, ALONG WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE AREA, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO DO IT BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST. AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY THAT HAS A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THIS, THAT IF WE YOU KNOW, GET CONSULTANTS STARTED NOW WORKING ON THE PLAN, LIKE, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY GET IT TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER. BUT THERE IS THAT PIECE, AND THERE'S THE CITY INITIATED REZONING THAT WE LIKE TO DUAL TRACK SO THAT WHEN WE CREATE THE TAG, WE CAN'T. I MEAN, IT WOULD WE BE HARD PRESSED TO SAY WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE AN AREA THAT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL? BUT IF WE INCENTIVIZE AN AREA THAT HAS A MORE COMPATIBLE ZONING DISTRICT AROUND IT, RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE THE LIKE WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THE PARCELS. WE NEED TO AFTER IDENTIFYING THEM, INITIATE CITY. CITY INITIATED REZONING AT THE SAME TIME. THE ASK WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DO AS THEY DID WITH THE COURTS, HAD ENGAGED THE CONSULTANT TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THEY COULD USE THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY FOR THAT. AND THEN WE DO THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE TAG AND WHAT'S BEEN SHARED WITH US IS WE CAN CREATE IT OURSELVES AND THEN GET THE CONSENTS OF FULTON COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT LATER, BECAUSE THOSE ARE MORE PROJECT FOCUSED. BUT WE AS A CITY CAN ESTABLISH THE TAG. I GUESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE IS BY US REZONING OR INITIATING THOSE REZONINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL EASE ABOUT THAT IS. AND LIKE SO I'M AND I'M GUESSING I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER IS OKAY, IF WE'RE REZONING THESE PROPERTIES, THEN WE'RE INCENTIVIZING YOU TO. GO AHEAD WITH THE REZONING AND CHANGE THE USE. SO LIKE THEY HAVE A STORAGE SPACE THERE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO REZONE IT. BUT YOU'RE GRANDFATHERED IN. BUT NOW YOU HAVE A BENEFIT TO REDEVELOP BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS INCENTIVE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT AND AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING THEMSELVES. RIGHT. AND THINK ABOUT IT. A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT'S VACANT OVER THERE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR OVER A YEAR, SO THEY GOT TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL ANYWAY FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE VACANCY. SO IT'S GONNA COME TO US, BUT MAYBE WE CAN EITHER EVEN FACILITATE IN THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE EACH PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REZONING IF WE ALREADY PUT ZONING ON IT. AND I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE, BUT THE ONLY OTHER THING, TOO, IS I ASK THAT WHEN WE GET OUR CONSULTANTS THAT SOMETIMES I FEEL AS IF SOME OF THE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING ARE NOT INNOVATIVE. I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY DELVE DEEP RIGHT INTO WHAT WE NEED AND HOW WE NEED IT, OR EVEN OUR ECONOMIC PLAN. [05:05:01] THERE'S NO THIRD THOUGHT OR A DEEPER DIVE IS OKAY. HOW DO WE START TO CHANGE THE ECONOMIC MIX OF THE PEOPLE HERE? DOES THAT INVOLVE EDUCATION? HOW DO WE PARTNER WITH OTHER PARTNERS TO REEDUCATE THE THE, THE ELECTORATE OR OUR CONSTITUENTS HERE IN ORDER TO BE. AND THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY ASK WITH THAT TOO. BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER AND COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. I, TOO, ALSO WANT TO SAY JUST THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BEFORE COUNCIL. BUT I HEARD I HEARD THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID, AND YOU SAID WE NEED TO IDENTIFY. WE NEED TO HAVE A CITY INITIATED REZONE, ENGAGE A CONSULTANT. AND WE COULD POSSIBLY WE COULD USE A WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY. BUT MY QUESTION IS, HOW SOON DO WE GET STARTED WITH THAT BEING THAT OUR DEADLINE IS IN DECEMBER? CAN THIS GO ON OUR SEPTEMBER AGENDA TO AT LEAST START SOMETHING? BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE HAVE SEPTEMBER, MONDAY, OCTOBER. NOVEMBER. YES. SO I THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH MONDAY. LIKE IF THERE'S AN ACTION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE, LIKE AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE THE CONSULTANT ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE CAN TAKE THAT ACTION. THAT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND PLANNING AND ZONING AND, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS EITHER WITH DEVELOPERS OR PEOPLE IN THE AREA AROUND PARCELS. SO THAT IN SEPTEMBER WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION AROUND THE PARCELS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED OR KIND OF SUGGESTED. RIGHT. AND THEN FROM THAT WE COULD HAVE THE CITY INITIATED REZONING. RIGHT. SO LIKE, I THINK FOR MONDAY IF WE AUTHORIZE LEGAL TO ENGAGE THE CONSULTANT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, LIKE WE DID WITH THE CORRIDORS, THAT THEY COULD START THAT PROCESS TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WHILE AND THEN HAVE THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF AND LEGAL AND WHOMEVER WORK ON IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL PARCELS IN THE AREA FOR A BOUNDARY FOR THE, THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY. IS IT POSSIBLE YOU COULD PROVIDE US WITH A TIMELINE OR WOULD THAT COME FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? SO I THINK OUR TIMELINE IS WORKING BACKWARDS. IF WE AUTHORIZE HER ON MONDAY TO REACH OUT TO CONSULTANTS, THEN SHE'D BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US UPDATE ON WHEN THAT PLAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE DONE. OKAY. AND THEN AT THE SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION, WE'LL BE HAVING DISCUSSIONS AROUND PARCELS SO THOSE TWO CAN KIND OF COME TOGETHER. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU. SO MY QUESTION IS SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR AS A PART OF THIS NEW TAD. WHAT ABOUT EXTENDING THE BOUNDARIES UP SYLVAN ROAD? BECAUSE ALL THAT DOES. WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY ALL THE ALL THAT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, BUT A LOT OF IT IS VACANT. AND IT'S NOT JUST VACANT, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY EMPTY LAND. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOUNDS OF THIS EXTEND UP SYLVAN TO THE CITY LIMITS OF ATLANTA. AND SO THEN THAT WAY WE CAN START GETTING THAT REDEVELOPED AS WELL. OH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SYLVAN GOING DOWN PAST IMPACT CHURCH? YEAH. BECAUSE IF WE GO THE OTHER WAY, WE'D BE IN HAPEVILLE. CORRECT. YEAH. AND AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL GOING UP THAT WAY, BUT. OH. BUT SPRINGDALE CIRCLE IS AN IS AN EAST POINT AND IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ROSIE'S. ROSES. SO LIKE GOING TOWARDS ATLANTA. SO YOU HAVE HOUSES BEHIND THERE. OKAY. SYLVAN TO ATLANTA. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES. SO I DEFINITELY LOVE THE IDEA OF THE TAD. AND MY QUESTION WOULD BE IT'S SORT OF ALONG THAT OF COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER'S. I WOULD LIKE FOR, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT SORT OF THE CITY OVERALL IN TERMS OF WHO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE OUT THE CAMP CREEK. TAD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INNOVATION TAD LIKE ALONG SYLVAN ROAD AND WILLINGHAM AND ALL OF THOSE PLACES. BUT FROM A LARGER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, IF WE COULD GET FROM OUR CONSULTANT, WHAT ARE THE AREAS THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON AND WHAT TYPES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TO PURSUE? SOME OF THEM COULD BE TAD, SOME OF THEM COULD BE SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT HOW DO WE GET DEVELOPMENT AND ATTRACT INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY VERSUS JUST FOCUSING ON JUST THIS ONE [05:10:05] TAD. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES, WHAT THAT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON WHAT THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM THE CONSULTANT SO THAT WE CAN GET THINGS MOVING. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ALWAYS COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO SORT OF JUMP START A PARTICULAR AREA. BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY AND WE HAVE PLANS IN PLACE TO GET THOSE THINGS MOVING AND TO INCENTIVIZE, INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THAT THAT IS JUST THE ASK THAT I WOULD HAVE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT AROUND LIKE EVEN PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT. AND SO FOR AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN SEPTEMBER, HOPEFULLY WITH A CONSULTANT RIGHT AROUND SCOPE OF THE PLAN. BUT LIKE FOR FOR THE TAD. I KNOW THERE HAS TO BE A REDEVELOPMENT AREA, AND TALKING ABOUT TOOLS AND STRATEGIES WITHIN THAT AREA COULD POTENTIALLY BE HELPFUL TO OTHER AREAS. OR WE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT. RIGHT. LIKE AND LOOKING AT BECAUSE THE IDEA IS THAT THIS WOULD BE MIXED USE, WHICH IS GOING TO GIVE OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSIONS AROUND INCENTIVES, AROUND HOUSING INCENTIVES, AROUND RETAIL INCENTIVES, AROUND, YOU KNOW, MEETING SPACE, LIKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND MAYBE IT'S BASED UPON THAT WITHIN THE PLAN THAT GIVES US A BROADER REACH, RIGHT? AND I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO CONNECT DOTS. I MEAN, WE JUST PAID A CONSULTANT TO DO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN FOR TEN YEARS. AND SO WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. BUT HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THE STRATEGIC PLAN SUPPORT OR TIE INTO THIS SO THAT WE'RE DOING THIS COMPREHENSIVELY. AND IT'S IN A WAY THAT IT'S GOING TO DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR US AS A CITY. OKAY, SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY CHIMED IN. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. AND SO ATTACHED TO LOOK AT THE CITY OVERALL IS GREAT, BUT I KNOW FOR THE LOW, LOW LAND AREA WE CREATED A OVERLAY DISTRICT. SO THOSE ARE GOOD TO HAVE. AND WHAT WE DID WAS THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT CAN AND CANNOT COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE'S LET'S SAY WE HAVE THREE CONVENIENCE STORES ON ONE CORNER. IF ONE LEAVES ANOTHER, ONE CAN'T COME BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY OVERSATURATED. SO ANOTHER ANOTHER TYPE OF BUSINESS HAS TO COME IN THAT COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS AND I THINK THE CONLEY IS THE ONLY. WHAT DID I JUST CALL IT? OVERLAY. OVERLAY. DISTRICT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS WELL IN IN THE THE NEIGHBORHOODS OVERLAY DISTRICT. WHAT IS BEST AND WHAT WILL WORK FOR THAT COMMUNITY? YEAH. THAT'S A BECAUSE OVERLAY DISTRICTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT TO LIKE OUR DOWNTOWN ARCHITECTURAL OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE ONE THAT WE CREATED OVER IN HEADLAND TO FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AROUND LIMITING CERTAIN TYPES OF USES AND KNOWING WHAT EACH OF THOSE REQUIRE. RIGHT. SO OVERLAY DISTRICT TAGS AND JUST UNDERSTANDING THOSE AND IT REQUIRED LIKE THE DISTANCE. SO WE GOT WE DID A STUDY RIGHT. DID WE DO A STUDY FOR THE OVERLAY DISTRICT? I THINK WE DID, BUT IT WAS MAINLY THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO CONVENIENCE STORES, ONE AT ONE CORNER, ONE AT THE OTHER CORNER, AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS, JUST LIKE THEY REMOVED THE ALCOHOL FROM THE AREA. SO NO RESTAURANT CAN COME INTO THAT COMMUNITY THAT SELLS ALCOHOL. BUT OTHER TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD ENHANCE IT CAN CAN GO IN THAT AREA. OKAY. SO I WAS TAKING SOME NOTES. I THINK THE ACTION OF AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE THE CONSULTANT TO CREATE THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WE COULD DO ON MONDAY. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF WE THE FORMAL ACTION ON THIS, BUT ALLOWING THE CITY MANAGER AND PLANNING HIS OWN STAFF AND LEGAL AND THE DEVELOPER TO THINK ABOUT THE BOUNDARY. AND SO WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR AREA, [05:15:03] WHICH GETS US THAT GETS US WILLINGHAM DOWN TO SYLVAN, RIGHT? YUP. AND THEN FROM SYLVAN TO ATLANTA AS A POTENTIAL PLACE TO LOOK AT AS IT RELATES TO BOUNDARIES AND PARCELS. AND IF WE COULD, LIKE, GET A MAP OF THAT AND THE CURRENT ZONINGS ON THOSE PROPERTIES, THAT WOULD HELP US HAVE THE DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH ABOUT CITY INITIATED REZONING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO I THINK WE CAN DO THAT BY CONSENSUS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ACTION. THAT'S JUST HAVING THEM BRING US INFORMATION BACK. THANK YOU. BUT ON MONDAY IF WE COULD HAVE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. INNOVATION. WE CAN HAVE INNOVATION. TAG REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WHAT ARE WE DOING? ATTORNEY JOHNSON SAID IT'S CALLED A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. IDENTIFIED CITY OF MICHIGAN. YEAH, THAT'LL COME ON THE WORK SESSION. AND THEN FOR THE SEPTEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION WE CAN HAVE THIS BACK ON AND WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE MAPS. AND CITY INITIATED REZONING WITHIN THE DISTRICT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU ALL. DO WE ANY OBJECTION TO PUTTING THE. I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AGENDA ITEM SPECIFICALLY SAID COUNCIL APPROVAL OF CITY ATTORNEY ENGAGEMENT CONSULTANT TO. CREATE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE INNOVATION TAD AND WE COULD PUT IT ON CONSENT. ANYBODY OBJECT TO THAT? OKAY. SO WE'LL WORK ON THE LANGUAGE FOR CONSENT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EIGHT. SO IT'S EIGHT, 18 AND NINE. EIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ONLY HAVE TWO MORE, Y'ALL. CULTIVATING COMMUNITY HEALTH IN THE IN UNITY COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. [III.17. Cultivating Community Health in Unity (Action May be Taken)] AND THEN YOU SAID 42. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT OR SEPTEMBER? SO THIS IS OUR LAST ONE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. WE HAD THE DISCUSSION WE JUST NEEDED LAST WEEK. WE NEEDED TO FIND THE 5000. AND I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY CAME UP WITH A RESOLUTION INSTEAD OF A OF EMOTION. BECAUSE I'M AN MOU. BECAUSE THE MOU WOULD HAVE TO BE SIGNED BY BOTH SIDES. SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 17. THE LAST ONE WE JUST NEEDED A A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE COULD GET THE $5,000 FOR. IF THAT'S WHAT MY COLLEAGUES I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE RIGHT. BUT WE INDICATED ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BECAUSE THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION OF THE MOU LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THE MONEY WAS FOR THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, BUT THE AND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM IN THE CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE OF THE TIMING. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS WEEKEND, IF WE TAKE ACTION TONIGHT TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WITH KNOWING WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM, THEN IT CAN. MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE AGENDA ITEM. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES, MADAM MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE CITY MANAGER, IF HE'S ABLE TO PROVIDE A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR WHICH WE COULD DRAW THE $5,000. MR. JONES? YES, WE CAN USE 1599, A NON-DEPARTMENTAL CONTINGENCY ACCOUNT LINE. THAT'S IN OUR GENERAL FUND FOR 5 TO $45,500. 5000? $5,000. YOU'RE RIGHT. NO, NOT 500,000. YOU WERE JUST GOING TO SAY 500. IT IS LATE. YES. YOU'RE RIGHT. $5,000. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, I DID DRAFT THE. I DRAFTED IT AS A RESOLUTION AS OPPOSED TO A MOU, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO EXECUTE IT AS WELL, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY DELAY THE ENGAGEMENT FOR THE, THE FUNDS. AND SO THE RESOLUTION JUST PROVIDES THAT WE CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THE HEALTH FAIR. AND, YOU KNOW, IN CONSIDERATION OF OUR CITIZENS BEING ABLE TO ATTEND THE HEALTH FAIR FOR FREE, THAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WILL COMMIT $5,000. I CAN CHANGE THE LAST. WHEREAS TO INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE LINE ITEM. [05:20:01] BUT CURRENTLY IT JUST READS THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS AUTHORIZED TO EXPEND SAID FUNDS FROM THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET LINE ITEM. SO THE RESOLUTION IS DRAFTED. HOPEFULLY IT'S IN YOUR BOOKS. SO THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED THE RESOLUTION. WE DON'T HAVE THE HARD COPY, BUT SHE JUST I GUESS SHE WENT THROUGH ALL THE WHEREAS CLAUSES. SHE CAN READ THEM SO THAT THEN WE CAN APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, WHICH WILL INCLUDE WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM. IS IT A LONG ONE? NO, I CAN'T READ IT. YEAH, IF YOU COULD JUST READ IT AND THEN WE CAN DO A MOTION. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. OH. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. SO THIS SATURDAY. SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO DO A RESOLUTION TO ENGAGE WITH BOTH CITIES. I'M NOT SURE WHAT POLICY SOUTH FULTON FOLLOWS. YEAH. THIS IS WE TALKED ABOUT THE MOU, WHICH WOULD BE BETWEEN BOTH CITIES, BUT WE COULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION REFLECTING OUR INTENT AND WHY WE'RE SHARING THE 505. SEE, YOU GOT ME THE $5,000 TOWARDS THE EVENT AND THEN MAKE THE DONATION AND MOVE FORWARD SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIGN IT. NOT THE RESOLUTION. IF WE DID AN MOU, THEY HAD TO DO THE MOU, BUT TO COVER US AROUND WHY WE ARE PROVIDING $5,000 AND MAKING SURE THAT IT INDICATES THAT IT'S NOT A GRATUITY. THE RESOLUTION WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU COULD READ THE RESOLUTION AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THE MOTION. WHEREAS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, WHEREAS THE CITY PERIODICALLY PARTNERS WITH SPONSORS OF PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE CITIZENS OF EASTPOINTE, WHEREAS THE CITY OF SOUTH FULTON IS PLANNING AND HOSTING A COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIR TO BE HELD ON AUGUST 16TH, 2025. AND WHEREAS, SUPPORTERS OF THE HEALTH FAIR INCLUDE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AND WHEREAS, THE CITY WAS ASKED TO SUPPORT THE HEALTH FAIR BY PROVIDING MONETARY SUPPORT IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000, AND WHEREAS, THE CITY SUPPORT WILL ALLOW CITY RESIDENTS TO ATTEND THE HEALTH FAIR FREE OF CHARGE, AND WHEREAS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL CONSIDER IT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF SOUTH FULTON'S COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIR IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000, AND WHEREAS THE CITY MANAGER IS AUTHORIZED TO EXPEND SAID FUNDS FROM THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET LINE ITEM. AND THEN I FORGOT A SENTENCE, AND WHICH WILL JUST BE THERE FOR THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE WILL COMMIT $5,000 IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF SOUTH FULTON'S HEALTH FAIR. AND THE CITY MANAGER IS AUTHORIZED TO EXPEND THE FUNDS. DID YOU SAY RESOLUTION? YES. YEAH. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. MADAM MAYOR, I ASK THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION DRAFTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WHERE WE PARTICIPATE IN THE HEALTH FAIR. PROPERLY SECONDED. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. HIS NAME IS TORN. OH, WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL DID ASK FOR ONE, AND I COULD STILL I'M SO SORRY. YES, I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE, TWO, JUST THREE. I CAN LIMIT IT TO THREE. I'LL SAVE THE REST OF THEM FOR ANOTHER DAY. ONE IS TWO ARE LEGAL, THREE ARE LEGAL. THEY'RE ALL LEGAL. WE HAVE LEGAL. MR.. MR.. MR.. JOHNSON HAD ONE. I HAVE ONE LEGAL FOR LEGAL. NOW GET A MOTION AND EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO MOVED. MADAM MAYOR. SECOND. SECOND. MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE IN RECESS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.