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[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]

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SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

COUNCILMEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER FREELEY. COUNCILMEMBER. ATKINS. PRESENT.

COUNCILMEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCILMEMBER. MITCHELL. COUNCILMEMBER. BUTLER.

COUNCILMEMBER. MARTIN. ROGERS. MAYOR. HOLIDAY. INGRAM. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH.

SO LET'S CELEBRATE AND HONOR OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE AND PEOPLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY. I KNOW WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME CELEBRATIONS HERE AT CITY HALL. SO SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH IS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND WE ARE CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERITAGE CULTURE. WE WILL HAVE THE INVOCATION BY KEN JELKS, PASTOR KEN JELKS OF SAINTS. WE JUST LOST ONE. WE JUST GOT ONE BACK. WE NEED WE WILL HAVE THE INVOCATION BY PASTOR KEN JELKS OF SAINT STEPHEN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG IF WE CAN ALL STAND AND REMAIN STANDING. LET US LOOK WITHIN. GRACIOUS ONE, HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER. WE INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE HERE UPON OUR PATHS WITH REFERENCE TO OUR PROGRESSION. WE ASK YOUR PROTECTION, YOUR GUIDANCE. WE ASK YOUR SPIRIT. IN THE MIDST OF OUR MEETING ORDER AND KEEP OUR MINDS AND OUR MOUTHS GOVERN US ACCORDINGLY. LORD, WITH REFERENCE TO YOUR BUSINESS FOR THIS GREAT CITY, IN YOUR NAME DO WE PRAY. AMEN, AMEN. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR SERGEANT

[V. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS - Capt. Robinson]

AT ARMS THIS EVENING IS CAPTAIN ROBINSON. NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE COUNCIL AGENDA?

[VI. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]

SECOND, BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE

[VII. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES]

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 2ND MEETING OF THE EAST POINT CITY COUNCIL. IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED, SECOND. MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE

[VIII.1. 2025 (Fiscal Year 2026) Millage Rate Ordinance]

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MILLAGE RATE. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO READ THE RULES PRIOR TO OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES, PLEASE PRESS YOUR MIKE. THERE YOU GO. BEFORE ADOPTING ANY CHANGE TO THE ZONING MAPS OR TEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC, FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHERE A RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE ON THE PETITION. PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE THE HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE WILL INTRODUCE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. STAFF WILL THEN BE CALLED UPON TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUMMARIZE THE STAFF'S WRITTEN REPORT. PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OR APPLICANT'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS, PROVIDED THAT EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.

IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SPEAKER FOR A SIDE, THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED ALLOTTED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER OTHER THAN THE ZONING APPLICANT, THE ZONING APPLICANT MAY RESERVE A PORTION OF HIS ALLOTTED TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING. EACH SPEAKER SHALL IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS. EACH SPEAKER SHALL SPEAK ONLY TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DECISION UNDER CONSIDERATION, SHALL ADDRESS REMARKS ONLY TO THE

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COUNCIL, AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY OTHER SPEAKER. ATTORNEY WIGGINS YES, IS THE BUDGET. LET ME GET. I KNOW I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW LONG IT WAS. I SAID I WAS GOING TO WAIT TILL YOU FINISH. I THINK IT'S RULE 21. LET ME GET THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES. SO RULE 29 PUBLIC HEARINGS SHALL BE ADVERTISED AS PER ORDINANCE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBJECT WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE SUBJECT WILL THEN SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS MAY GIVE A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER. AFTER ALL OF THOSE PRESENT HAD HAD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, RESIDENTS WILL BE FIRST WILL BE GIVEN FIRST PRIORITY TO SPEAK. AFTER ALL, RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. ZONE NONRESIDENTS MAY SPEAK BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR EACH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT TO A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES PER SIDE. EACH SIDE WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 2025 FISCAL YEAR 2026 MILLAGE RATE ORDINANCE? THAT'S CONFUSING. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? THEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN, MR. JONES. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I HAVE OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT COME UP AND WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I PRESENT TO YOU THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE MILLAGE RATE PRESENTATION.

STATE REQUIREMENTS TO DISCLOSE OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 48 532. REQUIRES EACH LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY TO ANNUALLY PUBLISH THE ASSESSED TAXABLE VALUE OF ALL PROPERTY BY CLASS, AND IN TOTAL, THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE FOR THE LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITIES PURPOSES FOR THE CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR, AND ASSESSED TAXABLE VALUES AND MILLAGE RATES FOR EACH OF THE IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING FIVE CALENDAR YEARS. THE ADVERTISEMENT MUST ALSO INDICATE THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE AND TOTAL DOLLAR INCREASE FOR EACH ADVERTISED OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 48 530 2.1 REQUIRES EACH LEVYING AND RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY TO COMPLETE A ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE. REQUIREMENTS FOR TAX INCREASE AND NO TAX INCREASE. WHERE THERE IS A TAX INCREASE, THE MILLAGE RATE MUST SORRY MILLAGE RATE EXCEEDS THE ROLLBACK RATE. YOU MUST ADVERTISE THE INTENT TO INCREASE TAXES USING A MANDATED FORMAT WHICH SAYS NOTICE OF PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. YOU MUST HOLD AT LEAST THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE BETWEEN 6 AND 7 ON A WEEKDAY. YOU MUST PUBLISH IN THE NOTICE IN NEWSPAPER AND ON WEBSITE AT LEAST ONE WEEK BEFORE EACH HEARING. YOU MUST ISSUE A PRESS RELEASE TO LOCAL MEDIA. YOU CANNOT EXCEED THE MILLAGE RATE WITHOUT RESTARTING THE PROCESS, AND YOU MUST COMPLY WITH OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 48. DASH FIVE, DASH 32 GENERAL PROCEDURES WHERE THERE IS NO TAX INCREASE, WHICH MEANS THE MILLAGE RATE IS EQUAL TO OR BELOW THE ROLLBACK RATE. NO SPECIAL TAX INCREASE. ADVERTISMENT IS REQUIRED. NO REQUIREMENT TO HOLD THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, NO PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE REQUIREMENT. NO PRESS RELEASE REQUIRED. MAY ADOPT THE PROPOSED RATE WITHOUT FURTHER ACTION. IF IT'S AT OR BELOW THE ROLLBACK RATE, YOU MUST STILL HOLD A SINGLE ADVERTISED PUBLIC MEETING PER OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA 40 8-5 32. NOW WE'RE SHOWING THE CURRENT 25 TAX DIGEST IN FIVE YEAR HISTORY. THIS YEAR, 2526 WE HAVE REAL AND PERSONAL, TOTALING $2,308,436,305 IN MOTOR VEHICLE, WE HAVE 3,372,200 MOBILE HOMES. WE HAVE 76,119. THAT GIVES US A GROSS TOTAL OF 2,311,884,624. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 355, 355,445,676 EXEMPTIONS, WHICH BRINGS OUR

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NET TO A TOTAL OF 1,000,000,956. I'M SORRY, $1,956,438,948. WE ARE PROPOSING TO KEEP THE MILLAGE RATE AT 13. WITH THAT MILLAGE RATE, THE NET TAX IS LEVIED WILL BE $25,433,706, WHICH IS A DECREASE OF $2,739,714. THAT'S A NEGATIVE. THAT'S A DECREASE OF 9.72. THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE THIS YEAR IS 13.34. THE MILLAGE RATE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS 13, WHICH IS BELOW THE MILLAGE RATE OF A -2.53. THIS GRAPH SHOWS THAT IN THE YEARS 16 AND 17, WE HAD A 15 MILLAGE RATE IN YEAR 1813 .89, AND IN 19 AND 20 WAS 13.45. WE REDUCED TO 13.25 AND 21, 22, 23, 24. AND THIS YEAR 25, WE ARE PROPOSING TO KEEP IT AT 13 MILLS. THIS SHOWS THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE REVENUES FROM THE PAST TEN YEARS. IN 16. IN 16, IT WAS 12,148,556 17 12,000, $12,199,220. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE INCREASED EACH YEAR UP UNTIL 2024. AND IN 2025, WE DECREASED TO $25,433,706. THIS IS SHOWING WHAT A PROPOSED THE PROPOSED HOME WOULD BE WITH THE -2.53 DECREASE IN VALUE. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A $500,000 HOME, A $500,000 HOME IN 2024.

THIS YEAR IS SHOWING A $487,350 PRICE ON THE FAIR MARKET VALUE. THE ASSESSED VALUE -2000 WOULD BE $192,940 AT 13 MILLS. THAT WOULD GIVE YOUR TAXES AT $202,508.22, AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR. YOUR TAXES WOULD BE TWO $2,574, WHICH IS A DECREASE OF $65.78 FOR THE YEAR, $5.48 PER MONTH, 18 CENT PER DAY. WE USE THAT SAME. WE USE THE SAME CALCULATION ON THE $400,000 HOME, WHICH WOULD BE THE VALUE OF $389,880. THAT WOULD MAKE THE ASSESSED VALUE MINUS THE $2,000 EXEMPTION, $153,952. AT 13 MILLS, YOUR TAXES WOULD BE $2,001, WHICH IS A DECREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR OF $52.62. IN THE SAME VALUE WITH THE $300,000. HOME IS NOW A FAIR MARKET VALUE 292,410. YOUR TAXES DECREASED BY $39.47. THAT IS OUR PRESENTATION FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE. FISCAL YEAR 2026, 2526 MILLAGE RATE ORDINANCE. AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED 13 MILLAGE RATE OR 13 MILLS MILLAGE RATE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. AT THIS TIME. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED 13 MILLS FOR THE THE 25 MILLAGE RATE, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED 13 MILLS MILLAGE RATE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE 13 MILLS MILLAGE RATE FOR 2025. MILLAGE RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. PLEASE COME FORWARD. AT THIS TIME, I GET A MOTION TO

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CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. I KNOW WE WITH HOUSE BILL 581 WE'VE HAD LIKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS, A LOT OF THINGS. IS THIS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING? THIS IS THE FIRST THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. THE FIRST WAS A PRESENTATION. AND SO WE ONLY HAVE TO HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON. YES MA'AM ORDINANCE. YES MA'AM. BUDGET. ORDINANCE. IS THAT PART OF THE NEW CHANGE? I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD TWO IN THE PAST. I DIDN'T HEAR I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. OH, THAT'S NOT THE MILLAGE RATE. THAT'S THE BUDGET. I'M SORRY. I'M GETTING MYSELF CONFUSED. OKAY, I GOT IT. I'M TRACKING NOW. ANY DISCUSSION? THERE'S NO QUESTIONS. THAT DEALER. YES. THANK YOU. SO. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THIS PRESENTATION WOULD, WOULD GO INTO THE AGENDA PACKET BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN IN THE AGENDA PACKET EITHER FOR TONIGHT OR WHEN WHEN YOU GUYS PRESENTED IT THE FIRST TIME. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHORT OF 2.7 ISH MILLION DOLLARS OF WHAT WE DIDN'T COLLECT FROM LAST YEAR. SO IS THAT ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET? HOW? WE'RE NOT COLLECTING AS MUCH TAXES THIS YEAR AS WE DID LAST YEAR. IN THE BUDGET, WE HAD 26,230,000 AS THE FORECAST.

WHAT WE WILL BRING IN AT 100%, WE DON'T COLLECT 100%. WE USUALLY COLLECT BETWEEN 92%. SO THAT BRINGS IT AROUND 2424 MILLION. IN THIS PRESENTATION, 25 MILLION WAS STATED AS THE AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE THAT WE WERE GOING TO RECEIVE AT 92%, THAT IS 23 MILLION. SO YES, THERE'S A SMALL DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT 732,000. SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS THAT WITH THE DELINQUENT TAXES THAT WE HAVE COLLECTING, THOSE WILL BRING ABOUT 500,000 WORTH OF TAX REVENUE. THE DIFFERENCE COULD BE MADE WITH INTEREST INCOME. OKAY. CAN YOU BRING UP THE ON THE PRESENTATION. AND CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT SLIDE FOUR. YEAH. SO THERE IT SAYS. YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO. YEAH. SO IN THE COLUMN FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 TO 26 THERE'S GOING TO BE A DECREASE OF $2.73 MILLION. IS THAT ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET. THAT IS AT 100% RIGHT.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT WE DON'T COLLECT 100%, THIS IS WHAT THIS PRESENTATION IS SAYING. 25 MILLION IS WHAT THE TOTAL TAX THAT'S BEING LEVIED. BUT WE ONLY COLLECT ABOUT 92% OF THAT 25 MILLION IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVE 26 MILLION THERE. THAT DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT 700,000, A LITTLE OVER 700,000. WHAT WE PLAN TO DO TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IS COLLECT ON OUR DELINQUENT TAXES, WHICH WILL BRING US ABOUT 500,000. AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE COULD BE MADE UP WITH INTEREST INCOME. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU. THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD ASK. BUT BASED ON YOUR RESPONSE, I HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION. SO WITH US HAVING VOTED TO NOT OPT OUT OF HOUSE BILL 581, WHICH MAY BE DRIVING THE FACT THAT WE ARE COLLECTING LESS, AND I'M ALL FOR PROVIDING THAT TAX BREAK TO OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS HERE IN THE CITY. AND SO WITH THAT DELTA OF ABOUT, I THINK THAT YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD BE SHORT ABOUT $732,000, AND THE STRATEGY TO MITIGATE THAT NUMBER IS TO COLLECT ON DELINQUENT TAXES AND THEN USE INTEREST ON THAT TO MAKE UP THE AMOUNT. IS THAT CORRECT? ALSO INCREASE OUR INTEREST INCOME. IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE STREAM OF INCOME, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT WILL BE DELINQUENT TAXES. YES OKAY. OKAY. SO IF WE'VE NOT

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COLLECTED ON THOSE TAXES BEFORE, DO WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THAT STRATEGY WILL WORK? AND BRINGING IN THE 500 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS IN. WHEN WE CHANGED OVER TO THE BS AND SPEAK INTO YOUR MIC WHEN WE CHANGED OVER TO THE BS AND A PROGRAM, THAT WAS SOME COMPLICATIONS IN THEM GIVING US OUR INFORMATION IN WHICH WE COULD COLLECT SEND OUT LIENS ON OUR DELINQUENT PROPERTIES, WE HAVE JUST NOW HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION. SO WHEN WE PUT OUT THOSE LIENS, NORMALLY WE COLLECT ON AROUND, I WOULD SAY AROUND 25% OF OUR LIENS, WHICH WOULD BRING IN SOME OF THAT MONEY. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GETTING READY TO THE YEARS 22, 23 AND 24 LEANS, WHICH WILL THEREFORE BRING IN HOPEFULLY BRING IN THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY. SO YOU SAID ABOUT 25% IS WHAT YOU THINK WE MAY BE ABLE TO COLLECT ON THOSE DELINQUENT TAXES. THAT'S WHAT NORMALLY HAPPENS WHEN WE FIRST SENT OUT THE LINKS. AND THEN THE NORMAL ANOTHER SET WILL COME IN WHEN WE FIRST SEND OUT THE BILLS, BECAUSE WHEN WE SEND OUT THE BILLS, THEY ALSO INCLUDE THE DELINQUENT DELINQUENCIES. SO NORMALLY WHEN WE SEND THOSE BILLS, MOST PEOPLE WILL PAY THAT PLUS THE DELINQUENT PLUS THEIR BILL, WHICH MEANS THE TOTAL BILL. SO WE ALWAYS HAVE MORE COMING IN BECAUSE OF DELINQUENCIES THAT WE HADN'T BEEN COLLECTING FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GET MORE THAN WHAT YOU REALLY SENT OUT AS FAR AS TAXES, OKAY. IS THAT GOING TO BE THE STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD EVERY YEAR? BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT WE MAY BE COLLECTING A LITTLE BIT LESS. I DON'T WANT THIS TO IMPACT OUR SERVICE DELIVERY TO THE CITIZENS. AND SO WE'VE NOT BEEN IN THE HOUSE BILL 581 BEFORE. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR. AND SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS UNIVERSE OF DELINQUENT TAXES, AND WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT A CERTAIN AMOUNT FROM THOSE DELINQUENT TAXES, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS COMING IN FROM PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS TO MEET THE NEED OF SERVICE DELIVERY? THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME WAYS WE CAN, BUT I WOULD I WOULD RATHER SEND THAT OUT ONCE I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, THERE ARE THINGS THAT OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES DO THAT I WOULD RATHER DISCUSS WITH THEM AND NOT JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM TALKING WITH YOU ABOUT IT. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT THE FINANCE TEAM OR THE TAX DIVISION IS CONSIDERING TO TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP THIS DIFFERENCE SO THAT CITIZENS CAN CONTINUE TO GET THIS BREAK, BUT WE CAN PULL IN ENOUGH MONEY THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE SERVICES. SURE. SO WE ALSO LOOK TO ENHANCE OUR OUR BANKING SERVICES. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE DO GET REBATES FOR THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS THAT WE DO THROUGH OUR BANK. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER AND ALSO BRING IN THOSE IN INTEREST INCOME FROM THAT.

THAT WILL ALSO BRING IN MORE REVENUE FOR THE CITY. BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO ENHANCE THOSE CAPABILITIES WITH OUR BANK. OKAY. SO NOTHING ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR HOTEL MOTEL TAX, NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER WAYS THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING IN OTHER, YOU KNOW, INSURANCE TAX, ANY OF THOSE THINGS. WHEN WAS THE LAST AUDIT THAT WE DID FOR HOTEL MOTEL TAX? I RECALL YOU SAYING THAT WE WE DO THEM PERIODICALLY. IS THAT CORRECT? WE DO DO DESK AUDITS PERIODICALLY. YES. WHEN WAS THE LAST ONE? I CAN'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

OKAY. BUT WE BUT WE'VE DONE THE DESK AUDITS WHERE WE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE CERTAIN DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE THAT THEY HAVE PAID THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES WITH HOTEL MOTEL TAX.

THAT IS A DIFFERENT FUND THAT WE DO HAVE WITH THE CITY. AND SO THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE UNRESTRICTED PORTION OF THAT THAT DOES GO TO THE GENERAL FUND IS ONLY A PERCENTAGE OF IT.

RIGHT. BUT OF COURSE, INCREASING THOSE DOLLARS DOES INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE THAT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH. I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT ALL REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE UP FOR THIS DIFFERENCE, THIS DEFICIT, AND WITHOUT PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE CITIZENS OR IMPACTING NEGATIVELY SERVICE DELIVERY. RIGHT. AND YOU ALSO WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, OH MY GOSH, IT JUST ESCAPES ME EVERY TIME I TALK ABOUT IT. FRANCHISE FEES, TAXES. SO WE ALSO LOOK AT THAT AND ENHANCING THOSE MAKING SURE THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE HAVE BEEN UPDATED. ALSO ANY INTERGOVERNMENTAL CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH OTHER CITIES

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THAT WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THOSE CONTRACTS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AS WELL TO INCREASE THOSE DOLLARS. OKAY. THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN WE'RE SAYING THAT TAXES ARE GOING TO DECREASE, THE NUMBER IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ON THE RESIDENTS BILL. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE 13 BILLS. YES, AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2022. FISCAL YEAR 2023. AND WHAT'S NOT ON THIS SLIDE IS THE ROLLBACK RATE FOR THOSE RESPECTIVE YEARS. BECAUSE IN ALL OF THOSE RESPECTIVE YEARS, THE ROLLBACK RATE WAS LESS THAN THE ACTUAL MILLAGE RATE THAT WAS ASSESSED. YES. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROLLBACK RATE IS REFLECTING THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUES HAVE GONE UP, BECAUSE THE ROLLBACK RATE IS NOW HIGHER THAN THE ONE WE CHOSE. RIGHT. SO HOW DO WE GET WHAT HOUSE BILL 581 WE HAD TO PICK A NUMBER, AND THE NUMBER WE PICKED WAS 13. RIGHT? CORRECT.

YES. THE 13.34. HOW WAS THAT CALCULATED AS THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE? BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME IN ABOUT. AT LEAST 12 YEARS THAT ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE HAS BEEN HIGHER THAN. I DON'T GO BACK THAT FAR. BUT ON THIS SCREEN, THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE HAS BEEN LESS THAN THE MILLAGE RATE THAT WE HAVE. ESTABLISHED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO HOW DO WE COME UP WITH 13.3 FOR THIS YEAR? BECAUSE WAS IT A DIFFERENT TYPE CALCULATION BECAUSE OF HOUSE BILL 581. LIKE IT'S THE SAME CALCULATIONS BUT IT'S BASED I'M SORRY, IT'S THE SAME CALCULATION, BUT IT'S BASED ON A DIFFERENT SET OF INFORMATION, SUCH AS THE VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES. AND ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR 2526 YOU'LL SEE THE EXEMPTIONS SHOW 355,000 355,445,000. THAT INCREASE HAS COME BECAUSE BEFORE WE WOULD BE USING THE FREEPORT EXEMPTION WAS BASED ON US. HOW DO I SAY WAS BASED ON US COLLECTING LESS FROM THOSE PEOPLE? THIS YEAR, FULTON COUNTY USED THAT FREEPORT EXEMPTION, KNEW IT WAS COMING AND PUT IT ON THERE SO WE COULDN'T CALCULATE IT. SO THAT CAME FROM OUR BASELINE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S MORE THAN 223 223,000 INCREASE. IF THE EXEMPTION EXEMPTIONS. YES. SO THAT THAT AMOUNT GREW BECAUSE THEY USED THAT FREEPORT EXEMPTION BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO REMOVE IT FROM OURS.

NORMALLY WHEN WE SEND OUT OUR TAX BILL THAT 223,000 WAS A WAS A PART OF IT. AND THEN ONCE THEY SENT US THE EXEMPTIONS WE REMOVED IT. BUT THIS YEAR THEY USED THOSE EXEMPTIONS BEFORE THEY SENT IT TO US. SO WE GOT A TRUE A TRUE COLLECTION AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING MINUS WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE. SO THEY TOOK IT OUT BEFORE THEY SENT IT, AS OPPOSED TO US USING IT IN 132 LIKE THE 132 THE PREVIOUS YEAR. IF YOU NOTICE IT WENT UP, IT SHOULD HAVE WENT UP AROUND 16,000. THIS YEAR IT WENT UP 223 BECAUSE THEY USED THE FREEPORT EXEMPTION IN ADVANCE AS OPPOSED TO US REMOVING IT AFTER THE TAX BILL IS RECEIVED, THE DIGEST IS RECEIVED AS FAR AS THE AS FAR AS THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE, I WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT. I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT BECAUSE WE USE A IT'S A FORM THAT WE USE THAT THE STATE SINS, THAT WE HAVE TO CALCULATE IT BY THAT. RIGHT. LAST FISCAL YEAR, I THINK THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE WAS 12.75. I BELIEVE IT WAS. AND THE WE STILL KEPT THE MILLAGE RATE AT 13. SO THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE AND DECREASE THEN.

BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE. I THINK AGAIN, THE NUMBER ON THE TAX BILL WILL BE THE SAME. WHEN WE SAY WE'RE DECREASING TAXES, I THINK PEOPLE WILL LOOK TO SEE A DIFFERENCE RIGHT IN MAYBE THE MILLAGE RATE NUMBER. IT'S NOW THAT THE MILLAGE RATE IS NOT AS VALUABLE AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE NOW 13 MILL ISN'T ISN'T YIELDING US THE SAME THING THAT 13 MILLS YIELDED US LAST YEAR. YES. AND IF WE HAVE A MILLAGE RATE BELOW THE MILLAGE RATE, THAT'S WHAT,

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1.09 HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR AT 12.75. NOW IT'S 13.34. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE THIS HIGH. I DON'T THINK, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT AS LONG AS THE MILLAGE RATE IS BEFORE BELOW THAT NUMBER, IT'S LEGALLY TERMED A DECREASE. BUT THE NUMBER DOESN'T CHANGE ON THE BILL. IF WE GO ABOVE THE 13.34. SO WE COULD DO 13.34 WITHOUT ADVERTISING AN INCREASE.

IF WE GO ABOVE THE 13.34, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE AN INCREASE, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. JUST CLOSED WITH THE THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE WITH THE 13.34. THAT'S OUR ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WOULD BE GOING ABOVE OUR MILLAGE RATE IN TERMS OF TAXES AND REQUIRE FOR US TO ADVERTISE AN INCREASE IN TAXES. CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. SO OUR BASELINE IS 13.34. WHAT WE SHOULD NOT ON THE BILL, WHAT WE SENT OUT TO FULTON COUNTY AND WHAT THEY SENT OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS WAS 13. YES, I'M AWARE OF THAT PART. SO THE REDUCTION IN THE TAXES, THOUGH, IS AS A RESULT OF A DECREASE IN ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES. THAT IS CORRECT. SO WHEN WE AGREED TO THE HOUSE BILL. WHEN DOES THAT TAKE EFFECT. WHEN THOSE THE WHEN DOES OUR COLLECTION. SO LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY. FROM NOW ON THERE WILL NOT BE A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN APPRECIATED VALUE UNLESS YOU SELL YOUR PROPERTY. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. SO WHEN DOES THAT TAKE EFFECT THAT THE ONLY INCREASE OR DECREASE WOULD BE BASED UPON THE PERCENTAGE OF. THE GROWTH IN THE YEAR 26? I THINK IT'S 26, 27. WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT THE TAXES CAN GO UP, BUT NO MORE THAN BY THE CPI. CPI. YES. SO THIS YEAR IT REMAINED THE SAME. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE FROZEN AT THAT ASSESSED VALUE NEXT YEAR. NO IT WILL BE. IT WILL GO UP THIS YEAR NEXT YEAR. BUT IT WOULD ONLY GO UP WITH THE, THE THE CPI BUT NOT NOT WHERE WE HAD THESE DRAMATIC INCREASES OF $100,000 AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NO, IT'S ONLY BASED ON THE COST OF LIVING. YES, SIR. SO FOR THE NEXT TAX CYCLE. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THEN THE IN EACH TAX CYCLE AFTERWARDS. OKAY. THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ATTORNEY WICK. I CHIMED IN BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING INCORRECT AND MAYBE I DIDN'T, BUT I'LL JUST SAY THAT YOUR PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE YOU OPTED OR YOU STAYED IN 581 IS BASED ON 2024 VALUES. SO THESE THE THIS THIS MILLAGE IS BASED ON YOUR 2024 VALUES. IT FROZE IT FOR 2024. SO THAT'S WHY HE'S SAYING NEXT YEAR RIGHT. YOU'LL GET THE CPI MAYBE 3% INCREASE. BUT THE THE REAL ASSESSED VALUE RIGHT. MAY MAY GO UP WAY MORE THAN THAT. BUT YOU WON'T GET THE WAY MORE THAN THAT OKAY. YOU SAID. YOU SAID THE MILLAGE RATE HAS ALREADY BEEN SENT OUT BY THE COUNTY. BUT WE'RE APPROVING IT TONIGHT. NO. WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS WHEN WE CAME TO TALK INTO THE MIC, WHEN I WAS SAYING WHEN WAS WHEN WE CAME BEFORE COUNCIL, WE ASKED FOR WHAT MILLAGE RATE AND COUNCIL WE. THAT'S WHEN WE DID THE. YEAH. YOU HAD TO START RIGHT. THAT'S CONNECTED TO HOUSE BILL 581 RIGHT. WELL YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT BUT WE ELECTED TO DO IT. IF YOU DIDN'T DO IT THEN YOUR TAX BILL WOULD HAVE GONE OUT WITH DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE PRE HOUSE BILL 581 TAX BILLS. THE ESTIMATE THAT GOES OUT WELL BEFORE THIS HAPPENS. RIGHT. RIGHT. PEOPLE GET IT AROUND APRIL. AND SO BECAUSE WE DID AN ESTIMATION OF WHAT OUR ROLLBACK RATE WOULD BE SINCE WE SENT IN 13 TO THE COUNTY, WE CAN'T GO ABOVE 13. IF YOU WANTED TO GO ABOVE 13, WE SHOULD HAVE SENT IN A FICTITIOUS NUMBER WELL ABOVE THAT, RIGHT. SO THAT IF WE WOULD HAVE COME DOWN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY, BUT WE COULD NEVER GO BACK. WE COULD NEVER GO ABOVE THE ESTIMATION THAT WE SENT IN. SO ALTHOUGH OUR CHARTER HAS A CAP OF 15, WE'VE LOCKED OURSELVES AT 13. WELL, YOUR CHARTER HAS A CAP OF YOUR MILLAGE RATE BEING 15. RIGHT.

BUT YOUR ESTIMATED ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE AND YOU COULD HAVE ROLLED

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IT BACK TO 15. CORRECT. BUT NOW OUR ROLLBACK IS WHAT. WHAT'S THE LOCK AT 13. WHAT'S LOCKED IN AT 13. YOUR YOUR MILLAGE RATE FOR 2025 COLLECTION IS GOING TO BE 13 UNLESS YOU GO LOWER THAN 13. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SEND IN THROUGH THE CERTIFICATION. CORRECT. SO WE CAN'T GO HIGHER RIGHT NOW. CANNOT BECAUSE OF HOUSE BILL 581. CORRECT. AND NOW MOVING FORWARD, THE. INCREASE WE ARE CAPPED AT INCREASE IN THE MILLAGE RATE BASED UPON THE CPI.

LIKE WE CAN'T GO ABOVE THE CPI. YOUR CPI IS BASED ON HOW MUCH PROPERTIES WILL BE THE VALUATION OF PROPERTIES. I'M SAYING LIKE IF THE CPI IS 3% RIGHT, IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IN 3%. SO A HOUSE THAT'S VALUED AT $100,000 WHEN THE CPI KICKS IN FOR NEXT YEAR, RIGHT, IT'S NOW WORTH 103,000. AND YOU CAN ONLY ASSESS YOUR MILLAGE RATE 13, WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE AGAINST 103,000 WHEN THE REAL PROPERTY VALUE REALLY COULD HAVE BEEN 150. YOU DON'T GET TO ASSESS THE 47,000. YOU'VE LOST THAT BY OPTING IN. GOT IT? COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU.

THERE'S ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO GET CLEARED UP. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR BASELINE IS 13.34 AND THAT. SO IF WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR MILLAGE RATE ABOVE THE 13.34, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO ADVERTISE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING ABOVE WHAT WE'VE SAID OUR BASELINE WOULD BE IF WE WENT ABOVE THE 13. IF WE GO ABOVE THE 13.34. BUT WE CAN'T, WE HAVE WE WE PUT IT AT 13 TALKING ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, IN THE FUTURE, IN THE FUTURE, IT MIGHT NOT. WE CAN WE CAN MAKE IT. IF THEY ASK US WHAT OUR. ESTIMATE ESTIMATE IS GOING TO BE, WE CAN GO HIGHER. SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO PIN DOWN, BECAUSE I BELIEVE I READ WHEN HOUSE BILL 92 CAME OUT TO TRY TO CLEAN UP 581 IS THAT WHATEVER YOUR ESTIMATED ROLLBACK WAS IN 2025, YOUR ESTIMATED ROLLBACK CANNOT EXCEED THAT IN FUTURE YEARS. SO I WILL PIN THAT DOWN AND BE ABLE TO GET THAT BACK TO YOU. SO SO IF I'M CORRECT, THEN YOUR ESTIMATED ROLLBACK IN 2026 WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXCEED 13.34. OKAY. YES. IF YOU CAN GET THAT CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE HAPPENING IS BEFORE ANYTHING ABOVE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, I THINK IT WAS OUR WE WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT WE'RE DOING A TAX INCREASE. HOWEVER, WE WERE REDUCING THE MILLAGE RATE BECAUSE WE STILL WERE ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD POINT. IF WE'RE ABOVE THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE THREE TIMES. EXACTLY. AND SO WHILE WE WERE REDUCING THE MILLAGE RATE, WE STILL HAD TO ADVERTISE THREE TIMES BECAUSE IT WAS ABOVE WHAT OUR ROLLBACK RATE WOULD BE. THAT WOULD BE RIGHT. EXACTLY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT OUR LAST YEAR'S MILLAGE RATE WAS 13. SO WE WOULD 13.34 IS ABOVE THAT RIGHT? WE WERE ABOVE. BUT LAST YEAR THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE WAS LESS 12.75. RIGHT. SO WE HAD TO WE HAD TO ADVERTISE THREE TIMES RIGHT. LAST YEAR, BUT NOT THIS YEAR WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION. EXACTLY. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION. WITH THIS NEW HOUSE BILL THAT WE VOTED FOR. YES, MA'AM. AND I THINK THAT WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND IT BECAUSE IT WAS NEW AND OTHERS, EVERYBODY WAS TRYING TO OPT IN. SO NOBODY REALLY FULLY UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS. SO IF LET'S SAY WE'RE AT, WHAT, 13. YES, MA'AM. MEALS NOW. YES. AND WE CAN'T GO BEYOND THAT BECAUSE WE SAID IT WHEN WE OPTED IN, WE PUT IT AT A, A RATE THAT SAID WE WERE GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. SO NEXT YEAR, LET'S SAY COULD YOU INCREASE IT OR THAT THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD BE AND WHAT THE WHAT THE READING SAID. WOULD WE INCREASE IT EACH YEAR WHEN FULTON COUNTY ASK US WHAT OUR ROLLBACK, WHAT OURS WAS GOING TO BE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO READ INTO TO SEE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT QUESTION CAME UP BEFORE, AND I THINK, AND I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T

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BELIEVE WE CAN. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT ATTORNEY WIGGINS WAS SAYING. YEAH. BUT SHE WANTED TO READ MORE INTO IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HOUSE BILL 92 THAT ALSO CAME. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT QUESTION CAME UP WHEN WE WERE VOTING FOR IT. YES. SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE IF SO, WE EITHER HAVE TO KEEP IT AT 13 MEALS OR WE HAVE TO. WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU LOWER IT BEYOND THE 13 MEALS? LORD, NO, I'M THAT'S JUST THE QUESTION. YOU YOU. WOULD JUST COLLECT LESS MONEY. SO AND AND EVEN IF WE KEEP IT HERE, WE MIGHT COLLECT LESS. YOU WILL COLLECT LESS THAN WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR BECAUSE THE EVALUATIONS ARE LOCKED IN AT 2024 NUMBERS. OKAY. OKAY. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO. WELL THE, THE THE OTHER THING ABOUT IT IS THAT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY HOUSE BILL DOES NOT APPLY DOES NOT APPLY TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. OKAY. AND TO RENTAL PROPERTIES, OKAY. AND TO LEASE PROPERTIES. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN ONLY EXEMPTION PROPERTIES. YES MA'AM. SO AND THEY DO HAVE TO FILE EXEMPTION FOR IF, IF IT'S THEIR MAIN PROPERTY. YES MA'AM. SO HOW MANY DO WE KNOW. THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF RENTAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY. I COULDN'T TELL YOU. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE BLIGHTED TEXT THAT WE HAVE? THAT'S ON TOP OF YOUR AD VALOREM. AND IF THERE'S A PROVISION IN YOUR BLIGHTED TAX ORDINANCE WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ELIGIBLE TO GET THAT MONEY BACK, SO YOUR BLIGHTED TAX IS IN ADDITION TO YOUR VALOREM. AFTER THE TAX BILL COMES OUT, THAT THAT TIME YOU CALCULATE THE BLIGHT BECAUSE THAT TAX IS HIGHER, IS HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE MILLAGE RATE. YES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. BUT THEY CAN GET IT BACK ONCE THEY BRING THE PROPERTY BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. WHAT I'M HEARING, THAT'S WHAT I REREAD INTO IT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ATTORNEY WIGGINS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? NO. OKAY. THAT IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE. WELL, WE'VE ALREADY SHARED WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNTY THAT THE MILLAGE RATE WAS GOING TO BE 13 BASED UPON THE NEW LEGISLATION.

SO COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST. WE NEED A WAIVER OF THE FIRST READING, FOLLOWED BY A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE IS, IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE 2025 FISCAL YEAR 2026 MILLAGE RATE AT 13 MILLS. IS THAT THE MOTION? THAT'S HOW IT'S READ. SO MOVED, SECOND, MOVED AND MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. OH. TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE ATTORNEY WIGGINS OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY

[IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING? WE HAVE SIX PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.

CHAPTER TWO, SECTION 2-2002 B-B RULE 28. THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A COMMENT FORM PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. SUBJECT MAY INCLUDE ANY SUBJECT OF CHOICE. THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER. SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MAY GIVE ALL OR PART OF THEIR TIME, UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME.

SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING. QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITIES SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT

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FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE FOREGOING. MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU CAN CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER UP FIRST WE HAVE MIRIAM HASSAN, AND I'M SORRY IF I PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME INCORRECTLY. MIRIAM HASSAN. OH, HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MIRIAM HASSAN AND MY ADDRESS IS 4247 SAVANNAH TRACE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA 30344. AND I'M HERE CONCERNING WITH THE AREA OF CAMP CREEK, WASHINGTON ROAD AND DESERT DRIVE IN THE AREA OF KEEPING THE AREA CLEAN IS A BUDGET FOR THAT AREA. AND FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD, THE BUDGET IS GOING TO POSSIBILITY BE CUT OFF. AND I WANT TO SAY, PLEASE DO NOT CUT THAT BUDGET OUT. WE NEED THAT FUNDING TO KEEP THAT AREA CLEAN. WHEN I DRIVE IN MY CAR AND I SEE TRASH ALL OVER THE ROAD, ALL OVER THE GROUND, I GET REALLY DEPRESSED AND I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE ARE FEELING THE SAME WAY. IT'S A STRESS TO SEE FILTHINESS IN OUR AREA. I DON'T WANT TO MOVE UP NORTH. I WANT TO STAY IN THE SOUTH. AND BUT I'M ASKING YOU, GOT YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THE BUDGET FOR THOSE AREA, BECAUSE WE NEED SOMEONE TO CLEAN UP THE AREA SO WE CAN LIVE IN A DECENT PLACE. I'M GETTING TIRED OF SEEING THE AREA FILTHY. I WANT TO TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW PEOPLE DO CARE. PEOPLE DO WANT SOMEWHERE TO STAY WHERE IT'S CLEAN AND NEAT AND NICE. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO MOVE WAY TO NORTH SIDE TO HAVE A CLEAN AREA. SO PLEASE HEAR ME AND PLEASE GRANT THIS WISH THAT KEEP OUR AREA CLEAN.

I GET STRESSED OUT. I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME WAY. IT'S CHAOS WHEN YOU SEE FILTHINESS. WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR DOOR, YOU SEE TRASH EVERYWHERE, BILLBOARDS EVERYWHERE. PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS AREA CLEAN. AND THIS IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY BECAUSE I'M STRESSED OUT NOW. BECAUSE WHEN I GO OUT THERE AND SEE THE TRASH, I REALLY GET UPSET. LIKE, WHY CAN'T WE KEEP THE AREA CLEAN? WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE FILTHY LIKE THIS? SO PLEASE HEAR ME AND PLEASE KEEP THE AREA. HELP US KEEP THE AREA CLEAN. AND THIS IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY. CONTINUE TO HELP US KEEP THE AREA CLEAN FOR MY STRESS LEVEL TO GO DOWN. AND I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE ARE FEELING THE SAME WAY. THE THE STRESS, THE CHAOS IS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING DIRTY LIKE THAT IN THE STREETS. ON GOING UP TO THE MARKETPLACE AND SEEING DIRTINESS AND FILTHINESS. IT'S A SHAME, AND WE ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED THAT OUR AREA IS LIKE THAT. WE SHOULD ALL WANT TO HAVE A CLEANER AREA THAT WE LIVE IN. PLEASE HEAR MY WORDS AND PLEASE HELP US KEEP IT CLEAN. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE KAMALA ADAMS. MY NAME IS KAMALA ADAMS AND MY ADDRESS IS 4271. AND THAT'S HIGH PARK LANE. EACH POINT. IN THIS 30344 ZIP CODE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT IN MY HISTORY OF MY EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA. IN 1991, IN THE SAHARA PLAZA, WHICH IS LOCATED OFF OF KENT CREEK AND WASHINGTON ROAD, I OPENED UP A RESTAURANT CALLED THE GARDEN, THE SHALIMAR. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TO DO WHEN WE GOT STARTED WAS CLEAN UP THE AREA IN ORDER TO BUILD OUR BUSINESS, AND I DID VERY WELL FOR A WHILE, AND THEN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES CAME UP WHERE I HAD TO SELL THE BUSINESS OVER TO SOMEONE THAT WAS INTERESTED IN TAKING IT OFF MY HANDS, BUT THAT AREA, WE WORKED VERY HARD CLEANING UP THAT BACK ROAD BEHIND THE RESTAURANT. AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU KNOW, I WAS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE BARBERSHOP CALLED HEADQUARTERS.

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SO IF YOU LIVED IN THAT AREA, KNOW THAT AREA, EAST POINT. WE WERE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE HAD THAT PLAZA AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE CAME ON BOARD, AND WE WORKED BACK THEN IN THE 90S TRYING TO KEEP THE PARKING LOT IN THAT AREA. AND BEHIND THAT AREA. I THINK IT'S DESERT DESERT LANE. IF I'M REMEMBERING IT CORRECTLY. BUT WE KEPT THAT UP. AND TO SEE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENT OF THAT AREA IS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THAT IS KEEPING IT UP TO PAR, KEEPING THAT AREA CLEAN. I DON'T KNOW TOTALLY WHAT EXACTLY THE THE I WOULD SAY. THE NEGATIVE PART OF IT IN TERMS OF NOT SHOWING AN INTEREST TO KEEP IT CLEAN. I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT I JUST KNOW WHAT I REMEMBER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT I HAD TO DO TO MAKE THE RESTAURANT SUCCESSFUL. I MAINTAINED THE UPKEEP IN TERMS OF THE FOOD CODE AND CHECKING MY SCORE. I STAYED IN THE 90S THROUGH THE FOOD PEOPLE IN GEORGIA CHECKING US OUT, AND I NEVER HAD TO WORRY ABOUT MY SCAR, MY SCORE EVER. GOING DOWN PAST 85. BUT I KNOW THAT AREA. WE REALLY WORKED HARD TO KEEP IT UP, AND I'M HEARING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. REGARDING A CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF THE UPKEEP OF CAMP CREEK AREA, BUT I THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ADAMS. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MR. COREY KING. EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK WHY CAN I GET A MEETING WITH THE ATTORNEY ABOUT A SETTLEMENT? WHICH YOU SAY IS NOT AN EMAIL SAYING DENY. SO, AS I READ IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT RULES, WE DON'T RESPOND TO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. AND WE DEFINITELY WOULDN'T RESPOND TO ANYTHING LEGAL IN A PUBLIC MEETING. LEGAL MATTERS ARE HANDLED IN WHAT WE CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO BY STATE LAW, REAL ESTATE, LEGAL AND PERSONNEL MATTERS ARE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO YOU MENTIONED THE SETTLEMENT AND THE ATTORNEY. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD DISCUSS IN THIS MEETING. AND ALSO DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH US OR SPEAK TO US AND SHARE THEIR CONCERNS. AND COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL IS NEXT. BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE LEGAL MATTER. ALRIGHT CUZ I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SEND YOU EMAIL FOR A YEAR AND CAN'T GET GET THROUGH TO YOU. I'M NOT THE LAWYER SO WHENEVER I GET ANYTHING THAT SAYS LEGAL I SEND IT TO LEGAL. I DON'T COMMENT ON ANY LEGAL MATTERS, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT SHE GOT ME ON BLOCK.

AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? I THINK YOU STILL HAVE MORE TIME WITH YOUR THREE MINUTES. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT.

UP NEXT WE HAVE MISS DANA LAWSON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING THIS EVENING? I, TOO, AM A RESIDENT OF THE EASTPOINT. MY ADDRESS IS 3200 DESERT DRIVE.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT FOR THE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE AREA TO BE ONE OF THE LARGEST TAX REVENUE AREAS IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINT, WHY DO WE, AS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, HAVE TO SUBJECT TO NOT ONLY TRASH ALONG THE CAMP CREEK PARKWAY? BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THAT IS THE CID OR WHATEVER, BUT WHY DO WE HAVE TO SUBJECT TO LEAVING FROM OUR AREA, GOING TO THE SHOPPING CENTER AND HAVE TO SEE TRASH EVERYWHERE? WE DO NOT WANT TO GO TRAVELING ALL THE WAY UP TO ALPHARETTA TO SPEND OUR MONEY WITH AVALON, TO SPEND OUR MONEY WITH LINDEN SQUARE, TO SPEND OUR MONEY ELSEWHERE, WHEN WE CAN JUST KEEP THE MONEY RIGHT

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HERE WHERE WE LIVE. FOR THE YOUNG MAN AND MENTIONED THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO MENTION JUST TO HEAR THE WORD BILLION, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING OR WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORD BILLION ANTENNAS GO UP, AND YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT WE CANNOT SPEND A PERCENTAGE OF THAT MONEY TO KEEP OUR AREAS CLEAN? I'M A WORKER UP IN THE SANDY SPRINGS ROSWELL AREA. THEY HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT THEY CITY AS WELL AS PERSONAL CONTRACTORS AND I PERSONAL CONTRACTOR. BUT PRIVATE CONTRACTORS COME OUT AND DO A CLEANING 4 OR 5 TIMES A WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT AREA STAYS CLEAN. AND THEN WE WONDER WHY COMPANY HEADQUARTERS ARE GOING UP ON THE NORTH SIDE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY UP THERE. WHERE WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR HOME DEPOT'S HEADQUARTERS, WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR RACETRACK HEADQUARTERS, THEY ALL GO UP NORTH. BUT NO, NOBODY'S SEEN THIS. COME ON AND COME UP ON OUR SIDE. BUT WAREHOUSES AND DATA CENTERS, WE DESERVE BETTER AS RESIDENTS. WE DESERVE BETTER AS BUSINESS OWNERS. WE DESERVE BETTER AS VISITORS. WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE LOVE EASTPOINT, BUT WE REFUSE TO KEEP HAVE TO SEE TRASH EVERYWHERE. WE REFUSE TO HAVE TO KEEP SAYING I MEAN THE MILLAGE RATE GOING UP 13. NO TELLING WHAT THE OTHER RATES OF TAXES ARE GOING UP ON. LET'S USE SOME OF THAT MONEY SO THAT WE CAN BRING MORE BUSINESS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR COMMUNITY, SO THAT WE CAN LOOK GOOD TO THE NOT ONLY TO THE WORLD, BUT TO THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE IN THE BUSINESS OWNER. AND WE WORK VERY HARD AS BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE, AND WE GET SO SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING TO CALL FOR TRASH HERE, TRASH THERE. WE LEAVE IT FROM OUR HOMES, WE'RE SEEING TRASH AND EVERYTHING. WE JUST ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND WE'VE REACHED OUT TO CERTAIN MEMBERS.

COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS, SHE'S BEEN A VERY BIG HELP WITH THIS IN TRYING TO GET US HELP IN THAT AREA AND STUFF. BUT HER HANDS ARE A LOT OF TIMES ARE TIED AND STUFF, AND WE EVEN GO OUT SOMETIMES EVEN VOLUNTEER TO CLEAN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY. BUT WE ONLY CAN DO SO MUCH BECAUSE WE STILL GOT TO KEEP A ROOF OVER OUR FAMILY HEAD. SO PLEASE HELP US WITH THIS LITTLE PROBLEM. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE MISS THERESA NELSON.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THERESA NELSON, 1732 NEELEY AVENUE HERE IN EASTPOINTE. I READ WITH DISMAY THE CONTINUED OVERDUE UTILITY BILLS OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. THIS UNPAID AMOUNT IS NOT A RECENT PROBLEM. THE ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DELINQUENT FOR YEARS, THE EXCUSE OF THE BILL BEING IN ANOTHER'S NAME DOES NOT WASH.

TO LIVE WITH AN ELDERLY DISABLED PARENT AND NOT PAY THE UTILITY BILL SHOWS A CALLOUS DISREGARD FOR THE PARENT HAS A NEIGHBOR STATED SHE THREW HER MOTHER UNDER THE BUS? IN ADDITION, THE PROPERTY IS PROBABLY IN THE PARENT'S NAME, WHO LIKELY RECEIVES THE SENIOR PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION. THUS, THE COUNCIL MEMBER CONTRIBUTES NOTHING TO PAYING TAXES. YET THE COUNCIL MEMBER VOTES ON ALL MEMBERS, AFFECTING CITY UTILITIES AND PROPERTY TAXES WHICH FUND THE CITY. THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO CONTINUE TO FUND THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN CONCERTS. NO COMPROMISE OR NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTIONS WERE ADDRESSED. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CITY CONCERTS. HOWEVER, THE ISSUES MUST RAISE MUST BE ADDRESSED ABOUT THE EVENTS. CUT THE NUMBER OF CONCERTS, CELEBRATE JUNETEENTH AND JUNE AND THE FOURTH IN JULY. USE LOCAL TALENT ATLANTA HAS A NUMBER OF GRAMMY NOMINATED ARTISTS. USE THEM TO CUT COSTS, ADDRESS TRAFFIC AND PARKING ISSUES IN FROG HOLLOW, STREETS ARE BLOCKED BY PARKED CARS AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES CANNOT ACCESS THE COMMUNITY. DRIVEWAYS AND INTERSECTIONS ARE BLOCKED.

TRASH AND GARBAGE ARE DUMPED IN OUR PROPERTY AND ON THE STREETS, AND OUR PLANTS ARE TRAMPLED.

THE. EXCUSE ME, DIVERSIFY THE MUSIC. SENIORS AT THE BOLTON CENTER, WHERE I REGULARLY GO, HAVE CONSISTENTLY COMPLAINED ABOUT THE LACK OF DIVERSITY. WHY NOT? JAZZ, BLUES, SALSA AND OTHER MUSIC TYPES? LAST, COUNCIL MUST ELIMINATE CREDIT CARD ACCESS AND USE AND AMAZON ACCENTS BY ELECTED OFFICIALS. REQUIRE RECEIPTS FOR ALL EXPENSES. IT'S TIME FOR COUNCIL

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TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS WITHIN OUR CITY. THANK YOU. LASTLY, WE HAVE MISS BENITA ROY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, EVERYONE ELSE. MY NAME IS VANESSA ROY. I DO NOT LIVE IN EASTPOINTE, BUT I AM EAT MY BISCUITS AT 2881 MAIN STREET AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR MY ATTIRE. I DO GYM IN THE MORNING, EAT MY BISCUITS. AFTERNOON. AND NOW I'M HERE AND I LIVE TOO FAR TO COME BACK. SO MY ISSUE IS THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS HAPPENING ON MAIN STREET THAT STARTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, MIDDLE TO ALMOST END OF MARCH. GATES WERE PUT UP THAT COMPLETELY BLOCKED ALL VISIBILITY TO MY BUSINESS PRIOR TO EAT MY BISCUITS BEING THERE.

THAT BUILDING HAD BEEN ABANDONED FOR OVER 15 YEARS AND IT WAS AN AUTO PARTS STORE. I HAVE ADDED TO THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE EASTPOINTE AREA, AND I HAVE ADDED TONS AND TONS OF MONEY. AS I STATED WHEN I PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ASKING FOR HELP.

EAT MY BISCUIT IS MY PENSION, ALONG WITH INVESTMENTS FROM OTHER INVESTORS THAT I HAVE. I AM ASKING FOR SOME SORT OF ASSISTANCE. AS OF COURSE, REVENUE HAS DECLINED SIGNIFICANTLY. I AM ASKING FOR A STEADY WORK FLOW OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPLETED. IT IS FALL SEPTEMBER OF 2025, AND I SEE NO END IN SIGHT BECAUSE I SEE NO ONE EVER WORKING. MAYBE 1 OR 2 DAYS A WEEK. I MAY SEE 1 TO 2 PEOPLE THERE ON MY SIDE WORKING. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT HAS BEEN THERE. I'VE SPOKEN TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES. END OF JUNE, HE TOLD ME THE EXPECTED COMPLETION WOULD BE THE END OF JULY. WELL, LET ME GO BACK. I'M SORRY. IN MARCH, HE TOLD ME WHEN THE FENCE CAME UP, THEY WERE PUTTING THOSE GATES BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO START PUTTING SOME PIPING DOWN. SO THEY HAD TO BLOCK IT FROM THE THE TRAFFIC, AND THEN THEY WOULD ADD THE CONCRETE BECAUSE THEY WERE OPENING UP FOR PARKING. OF COURSE, I LOVE THAT IDEA. OF COURSE, FOR PARKING.

HOWEVER, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED END OF APRIL. WHEN APRIL CAME, NO ONE WORKED FOR MONTHS. I WAS TOLD. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY TRUTH TO THAT, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THE CONTRACTORS OR WHOEVER WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT HAD LEFT BECAUSE OF NONPAYMENT. NO ONE WAS THERE. APRIL, MAY, JUNE. WHILE THESE GATES WERE UP IN FRONT OF MY BUSINESS, I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE FROM EASTPOINTE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS IS WHAT THE WE'RE PROJECTING AND EVERYONE HERE KNOWS EAT MY BISCUITS EXIST AND HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE ALMOST TWO YEARS. WHEN I SPOKE WITH HIM IN THE END OF JUNE, HE TOLD ME, OKAY, WE'RE ON TOP OF IT. WE'RE BACK ROLLING. WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME BRICK PAVEMENT OR SOMETHING, AND WE'RE GETTING THIS DONE. WE'LL BE DONE BEFORE THE END OF JULY. HERE I AM, SEPTEMBER 15TH. NOTHING. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC

[X. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]

COMMENTS. WE NOW WILL GO TO COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. MADAM CITY CLERK SET THE TIMER AT TWO MINUTES. COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLAND. THANK YOU MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO MISS ROY WHEN I SAW THE INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THE THE NEWS STORY AND WHAT YOU WERE GOING THROUGH AND SO ON, AND I, I WALKED PAST YOUR BUSINESS ALL THE TIME, SO I KNOW FULL WELL WHAT THE SITUATION IS. I DID REACH OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER ASKING FOR AN UPDATE AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SORT OF COMMUNICATION WE WERE DOING WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPACTED. SO I AM HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE OF SOME KIND. I KNOW THAT DOESN'T DO MUCH FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET AN UPDATE SOON. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES, AND THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT WITH YOUR COUNCIL COMMENT. I'M SORRY WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. WARD D COMMUNITY GATHERING WILL TAKE PLACE ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2025 AT 10:45 A.M. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO ANNOUNCE THAT MICROSOFT IS HOSTING A JOB FAIR AND CAREER NETWORKING EVENT. IF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN TECHNOLOGY, SKILLED TRADES, CONSTRUCTION AND LOGISTICS, THEN. FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH FROM 10 A.M. UNTIL 3 P.M. IS THE PLACE TO BE. THE LOCATION IS IMPACT EVENT CENTER 2323

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SYLVAN ROAD. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO NETWORK DIRECTLY WITH MICROSOFT RECRUITERS 18 MONTHS THE LENGTH OF THE LENGTH OF TIME. THIS COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED LITTER AND ITS IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THIS IS NO LONGER A VOLUNTEER SERVICE ISSUE, BUT A CITY WIDE ISSUE.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT LITTER, ABOUT GOING INTO OUR SCHOOLS AND EDUCATING STUDENTS, JAILERS, PICKING UP TRASH, APART BEING A PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS, NAILING DOWN AN ACCURATE SCHEDULE, AND SO ON. WE DESERVE TO LIVE IN A LITTER FREE COMMUNITY AND A LITTER FREE CITY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, TWO THINGS, MADAM MAYOR. ONE, I'D LIKE TO ALSO STATE I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR MISS ROYCE STATED THAT SHE HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED. MR. CITY MANAGER, I HAD ASKED A FEW MEETINGS AGO OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION AND WHAT UPDATES THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THIS CONSTRUCTION, WHAT THEY WERE RECEIVING. AND AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVE THAT THE RESPONSE WAS CONSTANT COMMUNICATION. AND SO I THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE SCHEDULES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND ANY DELAYS. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. ACCORDING TO MISS ROY, IF WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPACTED ALONG MAIN STREET AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THE MULTI-MODAL CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND MY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT YOU ALWAYS HEAR ME TALK ABOUT BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS. I'M VERY HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 8TH, 2025, FROM 5 P.M. TO 9 P.M. THE CITY WILL HOST THE BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS SUMMIT AND THAT WILL BE HELD RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS STARTING AT 5:00. AS I MENTIONED, DINNER WILL START AT THAT TIME. THE SUMMIT WILL BRING TOGETHER CURRENT AND FORMER MEMBERS OF ALL CITY OF EASTPOINTE BOARDS, AUTHORITIES, ADVISORY GROUPS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS. PARTICIPANTS WILL LEARN MORE ABOUT EACH GROUP'S ROLE, EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION, AND SHARE EXPERIENCES AND ASPIRATIONS FOR OUR CITY. THEY WILL ALSO HEAR FROM OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. JONES, DURING THAT TIME. AGAIN, THAT IS THE SUMMIT FOR BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS.

OCTOBER 8TH STARTING AT 5 P.M. WHEN DINNER WILL START HERE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YES. THANK YOU. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. I'M NOT ADVOCATING EITHER WAY, BUT JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THE WILLIAM C MEREDITH PROPERTY, WHICH MAKES THE TELEPHONE POLES LOCATED AT 2335 LAWRENCE AVENUE, IS SEEKING TO RENEW THEIR HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITY PERMIT FOR POST-CLOSURE CARE AND CORRECTIVE ACTION OF A CLOSED HAZARDOUS WASTE LANDFILL. THE EPD IS GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 7TH, 2025 AT THE ADAMS PARK LIBRARY, LOCATED AT 2231 CAMPBELLTON ROAD SOUTHWEST. THERE IS GOING TO BE AN INFORMATIONAL SESSION STARTING AT 6 P.M. WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO DO, AND THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS GOING TO START PROMPTLY AT 7 P.M. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS OF WARD D WHO CAME TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT KEEPING THE AREA CLEAN. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MISS NELSON FOR HER COMMENTS. BUT ALSO, MISS ROY, I UNDERSTAND YOUR ISSUES. I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

IN FACT, WHEN I WENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO PUT THE SIGN OUT FRONT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOUR BUSINESS WAS STILL OPEN, I WAS SHOCKED BY THE SMALL SIZE TO. I HATE TO SAY IT THIS WAY, BUT YOU NEEDED A BEACH TOWEL. THEY GAVE YOU A WASHCLOTH NOT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU'RE STILL OPEN. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO AND WE SHOULD DO THAT FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES THERE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO A TIMELY SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM. AND I, MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND I DO AGREE THAT THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. OH, ONE ONE OTHER THING TOO. I'M SORRY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT TO THE TOWN HALL MEETING TALKING ABOUT OUR FREQUENT POWER OUTAGES. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK STAFF FOR DOING A GREAT JOB. MR. DOW AND HIS STAFF PRESENTED ALONG WITH GEORGIA POWER, BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE FRUSTRATED IF IT RAINS TOO HARD OR THE WIND BLOWS TOO HARD, THEN OUR POWER GOES OUT. SO THEY TALKED ABOUT THE CAUSES AND SOME SOLUTIONS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION FOR A JOB WELL DONE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO US REALLY CONTINUING TO HAVE SOME ROBUST CONVERSATIONS AND TO ALSO LET PEOPLE KNOW WE'VE SPENT $1

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MILLION PLUS IN CUTTING DOWN TREES IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE POWER OUTAGES. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO DO SO, ALONG WITH THE OTHER INNOVATIONS THAT MR. DOW EXPRESSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, TO VANETTA FROM EAT MY BISCUITS. I SEE THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA ABOUT MAIN STREET PUBLIC WORK PROJECT UPDATE. SO WE'LL GET AN UPDATE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME TO A RESOLUTION AS TO WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP PROMOTE YOUR BUSINESS. I UNDERSTAND IT MUST BE VERY FRUSTRATING TO HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT, AND I'VE SEEN IT INTO LOSE BUSINESS BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THAT THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE BUSINESS. WE WANT TO KEEP THE BUSINESS.

ACTUALLY, EASTPOINTE NEEDS ALL THE BUSINESS THAT WE CAN GET, ESPECIALLY IN OUR DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE WE ARE FIXING IT UP AND WE'RE TRYING TO GROW AND GET MORE PEOPLE TO COME TO OUR DOWNTOWN. SECONDLY, I DO SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S. WELL, LET ME SAY THIS EVERYBODY WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT AN EVENT, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVENTS THAT THEY SEE FIT FOR THEM. IN. ALL EVENTS MATTER.

AND I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAILS, BUT I'M NOT. I CAN ALSO ADDRESS PRIOR TO COUNCIL. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT I'M NOT. BUT WHAT I WILL ADDRESS IS THE SENIOR BINGO THAT'S COMING UP ON SATURDAY AT THE JEFFERSON PARK RECREATION CENTER STARTING AT 2:00. THAT WAS ACTUALLY VOTED ON ON JULY 21ST. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER NOTION CAME FROM THAT. SOME COUNCIL PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY CAN GET IT CANCELED, BUT IT WAS AN EVENT THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THIS COUNCIL ON JULY 21ST AND WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE JEFFERSON PARK RECREATION CENTER. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EACH AND EVERY PERSON THERE THAT WANTS TO ATTEND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT ABOUT $1 BILLION. SO THE BILLION DOLLARS IS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY.

IT IS NOT THE PROPERTY TAX AMOUNT THAT WE COLLECT. SO WE DON'T COLLECT AND HAVE A BUDGET OF $1 BILLION, BUT THAT IS THE VALUE OF OUR ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES. ITEM NUMBER 20 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ONCE ADOPTED, WILL ALLOW FOR CHARGING STATIONS TO BE AT OUR PARKS AND THE PARKS. THERE'LL BE TWO. THE PROPOSAL IS FOR TWO AT JOHN MILNER PARK, ONE AT JEFFERSON RECREATION CENTER, ONE AT SUMNER PARK, ONE AT BROOKDALE PARK, AND ONE AT SYKES PARK. SO WE WILL BE INCORPORATING ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AT OUR PARKS UPON APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS BY COUNCIL TONIGHT. AGAIN, THAT IS ITEM I BELIEVE 20. I WILL SAY MY COMMENTS REGARDING MISS ROY AND EAT MY BISCUITS TO THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH I PLACED ON THE AGENDA TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED AND WHY IT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY. LIGHTS AND SO WE WILL GO TO THAT ITEM AND SO ON

[XI.2. Main Street Public Works Project Update]

SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, WE'LL I'LL START BEFORE THAT. WHEN IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION, THE THE DELAY OR THE SLOW PROGRESS ON THE PROJECT REACHED OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS. THIS WAS SOME MONTHS AGO TO SHARE THE CONCERNS AND SHARE THAT. I THINK AT THAT TIME THERE WAS EVEN A GREEN SCREEN ACROSS THE FENCE, WHICH TOTALLY OBSCURED THE VIEW OF THE BUSINESS AS WELL, AS PEOPLE WERE NOT ABLE TO SEE COMING ON. WHAT IS THAT? DORSEY ON MAIN STREET? IT WAS CAUSING TRAFFIC CONCERNS. I WAS TOLD AT THAT TIME THAT PUBLIC WORKS STAFF WOULD GO SPEAK WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER, TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND GIVE A STATUS AND UPDATE, AND ALSO ADDRESS THAT GREEN SCREEN AND AND SIGNAGE. WE I WAS I DIDN'T RECEIVE A TIMELINE AT THAT TIME AND WE WERE GOING TO BE PROVIDED WITH THAT. I RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE MEDIA ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER

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THE 12TH, AND THE REQUEST WAS FOR AN INTERVIEW AND ALSO SAID, WHAT ARE YOU, AS THE MAYOR, GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS ISSUE? AND ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHAT IS DONE IN ATLANTA? AND SO CLEARLY, THE REPORT IS NOT AWARE OF OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. THE MAYOR IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE IS NOT OVER OPERATIONS. AND SO THE RESPONSE TO THAT REPORTER, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT GET FULLY REPORTED IN THE WRITTEN ARTICLE OR THE LIVE WAS THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT REGARDING THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION ON MAIN STREET NEAR DORSEY AVENUE. THE MAYOR IS CURRENTLY OUT OF TOWN FOR TRAINING. THIS MATTER WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THE UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 15TH AT 6:30 P.M. AT CITY HALL, 2757 EAST POINT STREET, EAST POINT, GEORGIA 30344. THE MEETING CAN ALSO BE VIEWED LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE AT EASTPOINTE CITY GOV.

BY CLICKING ON THE WHITE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS LIVE TAB AT THIS TIME. AT THAT TIME, I'M SORRY, UPDATES WILL BE PROVIDED ON THE PROJECT'S TIMELINE, CURRENT STATUS, IMPACTS, AND NEXT STEPS. THIS STATEMENT WAS ALSO SHARED WITH THE CITY MANAGER. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM SO THAT HE WOULD BE AWARE THAT THIS WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA AS WELL. THE. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT IN ATLANTA, THE FUNDS THAT ARE GOING TO BUSINESS IS NOT COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S COMING FROM A TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT. AND SO I BELIEVE EAT MY BISCUITS MAY BE IN THE QUARTERS TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT, I'M NOT SURE. BUT THE MISNOMER IS THAT THE CITY OF ATLANTA PROPER IS GIVING FUNDING TO RESIDENTS AS IF IT'S COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S A QUESTION FROM LEGAL. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN TECHNICALLY DO THAT OR NOT TECHNICALLY LEGALLY DO THAT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. BUT ATLANTA IS PROVIDING FUNDS TO FIVE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES ABOUT UP TO 50,000 OR I'M SORRY, I KEEP SAYING ATLANTA INVEST ATLANTA IS PROVIDING UP TO $50,000 TO FIVE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES FROM THEIR. SMALL BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANTS THROUGH TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT FUNDING TO HELP FIVE LOCAL LEGACY BUSINESSES FUND INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, WITH EACH GRANT VALUED AT $50,000. THESE APPROVALS ARE PART OF AN ONGOING INITIATIVE TO PRESERVE AND STRENGTHEN LONG STANDING SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE VITAL TO THE CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC LANDSCAPE OF THE CITY, SO THE PRESS RELEASE THAT CAME OUT ABOUT IT DOES NOT INDICATE THAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO REPLACE LOST REVENUE. IT INDICATES THAT THE MONEY IS BEING PROVIDED TO THOSE BUSINESSES TO FUND INTERIOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

THE BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE FINANCED BY INVEST ATLANTA THROUGH THE TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT FUNDING, OR ATLANTA HUMAN PERFORMANCE CENTER INC. THE ATLANTA VOICE, FRED MARTIN WELDING COMPANY, INC. HENRY'S BAKERY, R.W. GERMAN IMPORTS, AND SO DEFINITELY, THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE TIMELINE THAT IT'S TAKEN TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT AND WHY, IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM MISS ROY, THE BUSINESS WAS TOLD PROBABLY ABOUT I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT TIMELINES. IN FEBRUARY THEY WERE MARCH. THEY SAID IT WILL BE DONE IN APRIL AND THEN IN JUNE IT SAID IT WILL BE DONE IN JULY. AND NOW WE ARE HERE IN SEPTEMBER AND WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON THE PROJECT. I ALSO RECEIVED REPORTS THAT MISS ROY MENTIONED THAT THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ACTIVITY DAILY BY WORKERS WORKING ON THE PROJECT. IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO MOVE DOWN MAIN STREET. SO WHILE IT'S IN FRONT OF EAT MY BISCUITS, EL ROCIO AND THE OTHER BUSINESS RIGHT NEARBY IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING DOWN MAIN STREET AT THE RATE OF ALMOST. I MEAN, FEBRUARY TO SEPTEMBER, THAT'S NINE MONTHS. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE COMPLETION DATE IS GOING TO BE ONCE STAFF PRESENTS TONIGHT, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE AN SUBSTANTIALLY LONG TIME, LONGER PERIOD, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CONTRACTORS ARE SHARING OR SHARE IT WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER 60 DAYS. SO AND IT WENT OUT AND THEY STARTED IN FEBRUARY. THEY WERE OUT THERE IN MARCH. THEY SAID APRIL AND THEN JUNE. THEY SAID JULY. SO WE'RE KIND OF GIVING ABOUT A 60 DAY TIME PERIOD. IF YOU SAY MARCH AND APRIL, JUNE

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AND JULY, BUT NOW WE'RE NINE MONTHS IN AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME INCLEMENT WEATHER, BUT TO HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ONLY A COUPLE DAYS PER WEEK, IF THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE PROJECT IS MOVING AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REPORTER IS HERE TONIGHT, BUT HOPEFULLY HE'S WATCHING BECAUSE THE REQUEST WAS FOR AN INTERVIEW, WHICH I WAS NOT AVAILABLE BECAUSE I WAS OUT OF TOWN, BUT A STATEMENT WAS PROVIDED, AND WE'RE HERE FOR THE UPDATE, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE THEY'RE WATCHING, BECAUSE WE DID ALSO SAY THAT IT'S ONLINE, MR. JONES. YES, MAYOR, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. REEVES, IS HERE TO PREPARE TO TALK THROUGH THE SCHEDULING AND SOME OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING ISSUES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GEOFFREY REEVES, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. AND CORDELL HALL, ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. WE'RE THIS EVENING TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION OR, EXCUSE ME, AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS AND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS PROJECT ON MAIN STREET. I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SAID ABOUT CONTRACTORS INFORMING SOMEONE.

I'M NOT A I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED THAT WAY. AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE BUSINESS OWNER IF THAT THEY RECEIVE SOME INFORMATION THAT PRETTY MUCH IS NOT CORRECT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CONTRACTOR WAS TALKING ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC PHASE OF THE PROJECT AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT STARTED OFF WITH NOT ONLY JUST DOING A STREETSCAPE PROJECTS, THEY HAD TO DO SOME SOME UTILITY RELOCATES, UTILITY POLES, WATER LINES AND MAINS AND THAT SORT ON EAST POINT STREET, I MEAN ON MAIN STREET AND ALSO ON EAST POINT STREET. SO I AND I AGAIN, NO EXCUSES GIVEN ON THAT, BUT THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CONTRACTOR HAD SAID DIRECTLY. WHAT WE HAVE UP HERE ON THE MARQUEE RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN PROBABLY START DOWN WHERE THE AREA IS, WHERE EAT MY BISCUITS IS, IS THE PROJECT AND SAID, WELL, YOU WIDEN THE SCREEN AGAIN SO I CAN ANSWER THE MAYOR'S QUESTION ABOUT OR HER STATEMENT ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE PROJECT GOING FROM WASHINGTON ROAD DOWN MAIN STREET TO WEST CLEVELAND, YOU HAVE A STREETSCAPE PROJECT THAT WILL BE DOING SOME MEDIA INSTALLATIONS, SOME PAVERS, SOME PARKING SPACES, INCREASE PARKING SPACES, BIKE TRAILS GOING DOWN MAIN STREET. IT'S REFERENCED ALSO SOME TREES AND SOME SORT OF WE CAN GO BACK INTO THE AREA. SO THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT STARTED IN FRONT OF FROM WASHINGTON ROAD PAST DORSEY TO THOMPSON. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. JUST TO GIVE A SCENARIO OF LANDMARK LOCATIONS. THAT'S BETWEEN THE CVS DOWN TO THE REGIONS BANK.

THAT'S WHERE THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT STARTED. DURING THIS POINT, THE INSTALLATIONS OF THE RELOCATIONS OF THE WATER MAINS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WENT ON. AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY HAD TO COME BACK BEHIND THAT AND PREPARE IT TO POUR CONCRETE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF GOT PAST THAT PHASE. RIGHT NOW, WHERE WE ARE, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT, GIVE IT ANOTHER KIND OF SIDEWALK VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. THOMPSON, DORSEY AND THEN EASTPOINT STREET AND THEN THE JUST JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF HOW THIS PROJECT, THE FINAL PROJECT PHASE OF THIS PROJECT SHOULD LOOK ONCE WE GET DONE. THAT'S THAT'S OUR WHOLE GOAL IN THIS PROJECT. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. IT'S A GDOT FUNDED PROJECT. GO TO THE START DATE. JUST A COUPLE INFORMATIONS ON THAT. SORRY. THERE YOU GO. AND WE'RE GOING TO JUST GO THROUGH TIMELINE OF WHERE WE ARE TO THE POINT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS, SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE IN REFERENCE TO WHERE THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD TO. SO GO AHEAD. SO YES I WANT TO. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. JUST WANT TO GIVE A TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT ON HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT FROM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED ON JUNE 6TH, DATED JUNE 6TH. GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND SORRY ABOUT THE FONT.

GEORGIA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION GAVE THE CITIES THE NOTICE TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT, WHICH GAVE US THE RIGHT TO START ALL ACTIVITIES, NOT NECESSARILY CONSTRUCTION OF THE STREETSCAPE. THAT MEANS ALL THE UTILITY WORK, ANY ACTIVITIES THAT'S CAN BE FUNDED BY THIS PROJECT. THE STATE GIVES US THE NOTICE TO PROCEED. AT THAT POINT, WE BEGAN COORDINATING WITH ALL OUR UTILITY COMPANIES. AUGUST 9TH, WE GAVE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED TO ATLANTA GAS LIGHT FOR THEIR UTILITIES, AND WE PROCEEDED TO DO THE SAME. AT&T EASTPOINT

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POWER, AS WELL AS SOME WILD WATER RELOCATIONS THAT HAD TO TAKE PLACE. SO DURING THE TIME FROM AUGUST 2023 UP UNTIL WHEN WE GAVE THE CONTRACT NOTICE TO PROCEED, ALL THE WORK THAT WAS TAKING PLACE WAS JUST UTILITY, MOSTLY UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK, RELOCATING GAS LINES, RELOCATING WATER LINES. AT&T HAS A MASSIVE BANK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RELOCATING, WHICH CAUSED A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION WE SEE HERE OUT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL AS WELL. IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE AND OUR TIMELINE, WHICH WE GAVE OUR CONTRACTORS NOTICE TO PROCEED, WAS JANUARY 6TH, I THINK 2025. THEY ACTUALLY BEGAN CONSTRUCTION AROUND LATE FEBRUARY TO EARLY MARCH. NEXT SLIDE. ONCE WE FIGURED OUT OUR NOTICE TO PROCEED DATE, WE GOTTA GIVE OUT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. NOTIFICATIONS LETTERS EXAMPLE HERE, AS WELL AS WHAT TO EXPECT DURING CONSTRUCTION RENDERINGS OR PICTURES OF WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT LOOK LIKE, AS WELL AS A CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE AT THAT POINT FOR HOW LONG THE PROJECT WOULD TAKE. SO THIS WAS SENT OUT VIA SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL AS DISTRIBUTED TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO YEAH, THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED ON THE THE NOTICE THIS I KIND OF A PROCESS OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE. EROSION CONTROL AND UTILITY MARKINGS, UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK. CONSTRUCTION. THE STREETSCAPE IS WHAT IT WILL BE. ALL THE PAVING AND STRIPING OF THE PROJECT. SO THIS IS ALL INFORMATION THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED. ZOOM OUT. OKAY, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE ON THE PROJECT. THIS ONE ABOVE AVERAGE RAINFALL THIS YEAR, JUST JUNE ALONE HAD 21 OUT OF 30 DAYS IN THE METRO AREA REPORTED RAIN. WE HAVE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE IN UTILITY CONFLICTS. THE CITY'S APPROXIMATELY 150 YEARS OLD. SO UNDERNEATH IN BANK STREET IS ONE OF THE OLDEST PARTS OF THE CITY. SO EVEN WITH ALL THE SURVEYING AND THE UTILITY DESIGN THAT WENT THROUGH THE EARLY STAGES, IT'S STILL UNFORESEEN THINGS ON THE GROUND. FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S STREETCAR TRACKS THAT ARE ON THE MAIN STREET. THAT HAD TO BE WE HAD TO WORK AROUND THIS OLD GAS LINES THAT EVEN THE GAS COMPANY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW UNDERGROUND. SAME FOR WATER, SEWER. SO THERE'S TONS OF UTILITY THAT AS WE CONTINUE ON THE PROJECT CAUSED DELAYS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE SURE AND TEST ALL OF THEM, MAKE SURE THEY ABANDONED AND REMOVE THOSE UTILITIES. ALSO, WITH CONSTRUCTION THERE'S VIBRATION. SO THAT CAUSES OUR WATER LINES TO LEAK AS WE'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION. SO WE HAD NUMEROUS SERVICE LINES, MAIN LEAKS, WHICH EVERY TIME THAT HAPPENS WE'RE DOWN. WE HAD TO GET THEM REPLACED. WE HAD TO GET IT FIXED. SO IT CAUSES OUR WATER DEPARTMENT TO COME OUT AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES. LASTLY, WE HAD PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. THIS IS A HIGH VOLUME AREA. SO AS MENTIONED ON APRIL 9TH WE PUT UP THE FENCING IN PLACE. WE PUT UP THE SCREENING AS A PROTECTION FOR SOME OF THE DEBRIS AND DUST WILL BE FOUND SHORTLY AFTER THAT. IT WAS A VISUAL IMPAIRMENT. SO WE REMOVED THE SCREEN APPROXIMATELY TWO DAYS LATER. LATER THIS WAS JUST PUT IN PLACE TO NOT ONLY SEPARATE THE TRAFFIC FROM THE CARS, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THE SITES. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE MAIN STREET, SO WE JUST KIND OF PUT UP A BARRIER TO GIVE THEM SAFE PLACES TO PASS, NOT THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. SO SOME OF THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WERE TAKEN TO GET THIS PROJECT BACK ON TRACK. MYSELF, ALONG WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION COMPANY, BENCHMARK MANAGEMENT, BEEN WORKING CLOSELY TO WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO GET DAILY CHECK INS ABOUT THE SITE ACTIVITY DAILY. WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR REQUIRING A THREE WEEK LOOK AHEAD SCHEDULE IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE THE PROGRESS AND THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DEVELOP A RECOVERY SCHEDULE SO THAT WE CAN GET A BETTER ESTIMATE OF OUR FINAL COMPLETION DATE, AS WELL AS COMMUNICATE WEEKLY AND DIRECTLY WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND ALSO GOING FORWARD, POSTING WEEKLY UPDATES ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA ON THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO GET THE PROJECT BACK ON SCHEDULE, AS WELL AS INCREASE OUR COMMUNICATION ON THE STATUS. THANK YOU. OH. OH YES. AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHICH KIND OF WE GOOD TIMING IN FRONT OF THE EAT MY BISCUITS ON THE CORNER OF DORSEY. WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO LIKE THE VEGETATION TO FINISH ALL THE WORK RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THAT AREA. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ON TOMORROW FILLING IN THE LANDSCAPING, PUTTING IN GRASS AND MULCH, AS WELL AS MOVING THE FENCE AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY FRONTAGE SO THAT THERE'S MORE VISUAL CLEARANCE. SO WE'RE ALREADY TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN REMOVE OUR BARRIER FENCING FROM FROM IN FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY. SO WE TOLD THE

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CONTRACTOR THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING IS REMOVING THE BARRIERS IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS. ALSO GOODELL DIDN'T MENTION IS THAT THERE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS A CONVERSATION THAT SOMEONE HAD IN REFERENCE TO NOT GETTING PAID, BUT WE WE ALL OUR BILLS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PAID. WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PAYING THE CONTRACTOR ONCE HE SUBMITS HIS INVOICES. BUT WHAT HE DID WITH THE CONTRACTORS, BEING THAT THIS WAS A GDOT FUNDED AND LED PROJECT, THEY OVERSEE EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. THERE WAS A DISPUTE THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAD WITH GDOT IN REFERENCE TO SOME NUMBERS THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER WHEN THEY DID THEIR BIDDING PROCESS, WHICH KIND OF HELD UP FOR ABOUT A WEEK OR SO. AND THEN ONCE THEY GOT THAT CLEARED, WE ADVISED THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND ANYTHING THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OR CORRECTED, WE WOULD POSSIBLY DO A CHANGE ORDER NEAR THE END OF THE PROJECT SO WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD. SO SINCE WE HAVE GOTTEN WITH THE CONTRACTOR, OF COURSE THERE WAS SOME DELAYS THAT THEY HAD SEEMED LIKE TO US, THEY KIND OF LOST SOME STAFF AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASONS WERE, BUT LOOK LIKE THEY DID LOSE SOME STAFFING THAT THEY HAD OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DUE TO REASONS OF WHO WAS WORKING FOR THEM NOT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THAT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM AND WE PRETTY MUCH CATCHING UP AND GETTING ON TRACK. REFERENCE TO THE PROJECT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE ON THERE AND WE DO HAVE A TIMELINE SCHEDULE. WE DO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, WHICH. IT'S JUST A. SO THIS IS SMALL, BUT THIS IS THE SCHEDULE THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED WITH THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. SCROLL DOWN. AT THAT POINT. THIS WAS IN JANUARY OF 2025. THAT COMPLETION WAS SCHEDULED FOR, I THINK, FEBRUARY OF 2026. SO THAT WAS SET UP AS A FINAL COMPLETION DATE FOR THE PROJECT AT THAT TIME. THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS 365 DAYS FOR THIS PROJECT WAS SET. SO IT'S IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE A YEAR LONG PROJECT. SO WE'RE WORKING NOW, AS WE SAID, TO DEVELOP TO MAKE SURE MODIFY THIS TO MAKE THE REFLECT ANY CHANGES TO TO GET A MORE ACCURATE DATE ON WHEN THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE. BUT WE'LL SCHEDULE FROM THE BEGINNING TO BE A YEAR LONG PROJECT. WHEN WE WE WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECT OURSELVES WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION TEAM, WE, YOU KNOW, GDOT AND THEY APPROVED THE SCHEDULE. WE WE STILL FEEL THAT THE SCHEDULE MIGHT BE A LITTLE LONGER THAN WHAT IT EVEN WITH DELAYS, JUST NATURAL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. WE THOUGHT THAT THE CONTRACT OR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT SHOULD EXTEND A LITTLE LONGER THAN FEBRUARY MARCH OF 2026. BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE SCHEDULE THAT WAS GIVEN.

THAT'S THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR. SO. OVER HERE QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE DONE IN MARCH 2026. I HAVE EVERYBODY DOWN. RELEASE YOUR MIC. SO THAT THE THE PODIUM MICHAEL DID DOES THE SCHEDULE COMPLETION DATE. YES OKAY. AND THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE, WERE THEY HIRED BY THE CITY OR WERE THEY HIRED BY THE STATE. SO IT'S A STATE FUNDED PROJECT, FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT. WE DID THE SOLICITATION. WE GET WE LOOK AT ALL THE PROPOSALS, WE GET THE LOWEST BIDS, WE SEND IT INTO STATE, AND THE STATE APPROVES THE CONTRACTS. AND THIS IS PART OF THE LCI. YES PROJECT. YES, MA'AM. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS THIS BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THAT PART IS COMPLETED AND YOU ALL GOTTA DO LANDSCAPING, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE THE FENCE THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT BUSINESS. YES. SO THEN MY QUESTION IS TO MR. THE CITY MANAGER, WHAT IS THE CITY DOING TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY IT? BECAUSE ONCE YOU MOVE THE FENCE, THEN ANOTHER BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION. SO WHAT PLANS DO THE CITY HAVE IN PLACE TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES STAY AFLOAT? I'M GONNA HAVE THAT GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FIRST. I THINK THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY CAN HELP BUSINESSES STAY AFLOAT.

AND THEN I GO TO THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. SO I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PLAN.

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IN FACT, IF THERE WERE, I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE CITY MONEY USED TO BE GIVEN TO BUSINESSES. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FINANCES. SO I THINK THE MAYOR'S COMMENT WAS JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE GRATUITY CLAUSE. BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, AND WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO GET INTO PROMOTING CERTAIN BUSINESSES. SO I, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOUR QUESTION IS NOT ABOUT FIGHTING, IT'S NOT ABOUT FINANCE. IT'S MORE ABOUT, I GUESS, SIGNAGE. WHAT CAN THE CITY DO OR WHAT HAS THE CITY DONE FOR SIGNAGE? BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION, IT IT IF THIS IT IMPACTS THE BUSINESS FINANCIALLY. SO WHAT CAN THE CITY DO FOR SIGNAGE LIKE MAYBE A HUGE OPEN SIGN WITH THE ARROW THAT POINTS RIGHT HERE TO HELP KEEP BUSINESS FLOWING TO TO THAT BUSINESS. SO SOMETHING IN THE REALM OF BUSINESSES OPEN BUSINESSES ON MAIN STREET, OPEN OR DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. OKAY. SO THEN MY QUESTION IS HAVE THE CITY PROVIDED THAT. COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE WE DO HAVE LIKE THEY MENTIONED THE SIGNAGE. THERE'S A SIGNAGE RIGHT NOW THAT SAYS I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN A MOMENT, BUT THERE'S A SIGN THAT A LARGE SIGN THAT SAYS BUSINESSES ARE OPEN. BUT OF COURSE, THE SIGN THAT THAT WAS DESIGNED OR MADE FOR EAT MY BISCUIT WAS SMALLER THAN THE WHOLE LARGE 25 BY WHATEVER SIGN.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN FRONT OF A COUPLE OF MORE BUSINESSES THAT DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC WITH OZ PIZZA, THE CUPCAKERY, EXCUSE ME, RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER, AS WELL AS THE BANK AND THE OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG THERE. THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE, AS YOU SEE FROM DORSEY GOING INTO, I MEAN, FROM FROM THOMPSON GOING TO WEST CLEVELAND WAS GOING TO BE OUR NEXT AREAS THAT WE PROBABLY WILL BE IMPACTING. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT NOT THE FENCING PART. WE WILL TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE MIGHT TRY TO DO MORE OF A SILT FENCING, WHICH IS NOT AS HIGH. IT'S LOWER, WHICH WILL ALSO GIVE US WITH THE ORANGE SILT FENCING, WHICH WON'T BE SO HIGH, BUT THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE BUSINESSES ALSO WITH THE SIGNAGE AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER AT HAS MENTIONED TO US. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LARGER SIGNAGE FOR THOSE BUSINESSES LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE OPEN AS WELL.

AS WE MENTIONED, ABOUT OUR COMMUNICATIONS. SO THEY'LL HAVE COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CITY AND NOT FROM CONTRACTORS THAT WE WILL BE MEETING. PERSONALLY ME, I HAVE NOT BEEN IN THIS POINT DIRECTLY, BUT I WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE REST OF THIS CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND THE OTHER THAT WE HAVE. SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND I CAN HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, SO I CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES. SO WHEN WE START MOVING DOWN, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE PUTTING UP THE FENCING AND WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY LITERALLY WALKING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION SITE AND NOT ONLY UNSAFE FOR THEM, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN A HAZARD FOR THE CITY, BUT ALSO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS THEMSELVES THAT WERE THERE. SO THIS CONTRACTOR HAS ALSO BEEN ADVISED THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY SERIOUS DELAYS THAT THEY HAVE WITHOUT HAVING A REASON THAT WE WILL BE CONTACTING GDOT AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN OUR CONTRACT. WE WILL LOOK AT THAT IN REFERENCE TO DO WE DECREASE THE PAYMENTS OR ANYTHING? IF THERE SUCH A DELAYS THAT HAVE A PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE NOT ON TIME TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING IT ON A TIMELY MANNER? WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE TAKEN CARE OF, ADDRESSED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT.

OH. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY AS OF TODAY, I HAD A COMMUNICATIONS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAD SHARED WITH ME A RECENT MEETING WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DDA AND BIDA, AND THAT PREPARING FOR FIFA WAS A TOPIC AND ALSO HOMING IN BOTH OF THOSE ENTITIES TO HELP US MANAGE NOT THIS, NOT JUST THIS SITUATION, BUT THIS SITUATION AS WE COMPLETE THE PROJECT. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF AN ALL HANDS APPROACH, WHERE BEFORE IT'S BEEN KIND OF AN INDIVIDUAL HERE AND THERE. AND WHILE I CELEBRATE DIRECTOR REEVES LEADERSHIP BE ADDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO BE A

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PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FULL ROUND APPROACH TO DEALING WITH NOT JUST JUST THIS ISSUE, BUT OTHERS. AND I KNOW THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO BE VISITING WITH THE CVB, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT BRINGING THEM ON BOARD AND SEE WHERE THEY CAN ASSESS SO THAT WE CAN ALSO, AGAIN, HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF OF ENTITIES WORKING TOGETHER TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO FRUITION, BUT THEN TO ALSO PREPARE FOR THE COMING WORLD CUP. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT WE CAN DO IS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIGNAGE, WHICH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WHY WOULDN'T WE PUT UP A NICE PICTURE OF WHAT'S COMING? AND WE HAVE COMING SOON AND BUSINESSES OPEN. AND I DID GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I WAS DISAPPOINTED PERSONALLY ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO THE OTHER SIGNS, IT WAS SO SMALL. IT, IT JUST TO ME SHOWED LACK OF THOUGHTFULNESS.

RIGHT. AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE. SO AS WE MOVE HERE, HERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS ONE. IF WE GO TO THE SILK FENCE, WHICH WOULD BE SMALLER, THAT MAY BE BETTER. BUT IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE LARGER FENCE, CAN WE CLEARLY MARKET THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE TO LET THE TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE OPEN AND TO ARE WE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MARTA ABOUT PARKING THAT WE'VE LOST SO THAT WE CAN DO SOME KIND OF COOPERATIVE DEAL WITH THEM SO PEOPLE CAN PARK ACROSS THE STREET WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS DEVELOPMENT? THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN BUTLER ONE, I WANT TO I DO WANT TO RELIEVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON SIGN. THAT WAS OUR SIGN. YEAH. WE PUT THE LITTLE SIGN UP, SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO HAZE YOU NOW. YEAH, YOU CAN, BUT I HAZED HIM ALREADY. WHEN? WHEN HE PUT THE SIGN UP, SO. YES, SIR, BUT NO, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE. AS YOU SEE, SOME OF THE LARGER CONSTRUCTION SITES, YOU SEE THEY HAVE THE BIG TELLING ABOUT THEIR COMPANY NAMES. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT. BUT WE AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO GET TOO LARGE TO THE POINT IF WE DO PUT UP A FENCE THAT WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE WE HAD WHEN WE HAVE THE HAD THE TARP AROUND THE FENCE BEFORE. SO BUT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE SIGNAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T IMPOSE LOSS OF REVENUE TO THE BUSINESSES. AGAIN, IF THAT'S THE CASE THAT HAS HAPPENED, AND HOPEFULLY THAT THOSE ARE THE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WILL BE HAVING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ISSUE AGAIN. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THE DELAYS IN PARTICULAR? BECAUSE I CONFESS TO I'VE BEEN THERE AND I IT LOOKS LIKE THERE AREN'T PEOPLE WORKING AND AND SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THE DELAYS WERE, WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THE DELAYS, AND HOW CAN WE PREVENT THAT IN THE FUTURE? AGAIN, A LOT OF IT IS JUST UNFORESEEN CONFLICTS ON THE GROUND, CONFLICTS, WHETHER IT BE, LIKE I SAID, RAIL TRACK, STREETCAR TRACKS, WHICH WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND UTILITIES ON THE GROUND CAUSED A LOT OF DELAYS.

EVERY TIME WE GET A OUR MAIN SERVICE MAIN LEAK THAT WE'RE STUCK WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DELAY AND PUTTING THE BURDEN ON OUR WATER DEPARTMENT TO FIX IT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO REESTABLISH THE SITE, PREP THE SITE, REMOVE, YOU KNOW, WAIT FOR THE WATER DAMAGE AND EVERYTHING TO DRY. SO JUST DAYS AT A TIME WE WILL HAVE CERTAIN DELAYS, NO EXCUSE. THERE ARE DAYS WHERE AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THIS WITH OUR CONTRACTORS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE MORE ACTIVE. WE NEED TO BE STEADILY MAKE PROGRESS ON THE PROJECT. OTHER DELAYS. AS MR. MENTIONED, THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCY IN THE BIDS ITEMS THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAD THAT THEY THOUGHT WEREN'T INCLUDED ON WHAT THEY BID FOR. SO WE HAD SOME CONFIRMATION WITH ON CAN THEY COME BACK AND REQUEST MORE FUNDING OR THIS SHOULD THIS JUST BE WHAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, BIDDING, BUILDING FOR THIS BID. SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAUSED SOME DELAYS. BUT I THINK OVERALL OUR STAFF AS WELL AS OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM WITH THE CONTRACTOR HAD TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE, KEEP THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD. SO JUST GETTING, GETTING GETTING EVERYONE ON BOARD AND IT'S VERY DETAILED, DIFFICULT PROJECT. SO WORKING WITH THE TEAM TO GET MORE ESTABLISHED, NOT HAVE THOSE DELAYS IN THE FUTURE, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT

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CAUSED DELAYS. NOW, COULD YOU TELL US THE TIMELINE ONCE MORE? WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE COMPLETE? IS THAT 2026? YES, WE GOT THE COMPLETION DATE AS FEBRUARY 2026. OKAY. AND PER MY AND I'LL SAVE SOME MEAT ON THE BONES FOR MY COUNCIL PEOPLE TOO. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THE CVS EAT MY BISCUITS. I THINK THERE'S A VAPE SHOP AND A MEXICAN RESTAURANT. ARE THOSE THE ONLY. ARE THOSE THE ONLY BUSINESSES THAT ARE BEING COVERED BY THE THE FENCING? THAT COULD POSE SOME. RIGHT NOW THE FENCING STOPS AT THOMPSON SHORT OF THOMPSON AVENUE. SO IT'S FROM WASHINGTON ROAD TO THOMPSON. SO YES, PRETTY MUCH. SO YOU SAID THAT TOMORROW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE FENCING FROM EAT MY BISCUIT. IS THAT INCLUDING THE CVS AND ALL THE WAY TO THOMPSON ROAD. AND THEN YOU'LL BE TAKING IT DOWN TO WHITE AND WEST CLEVELAND OR IT'S JUST THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SHIFTING THE FENCE AT THE CORNER THAT IF YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S A LITTLE AT DORSEY, THERE'S A LITTLE GREEN AREA THERE THAT REPRESENTS LIKE A LANDSCAPE AREA. YEAH. HERE. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE COMPLETE IN THAT AREA PULLING.

WE STILL NEED TO KEEP THAT DRIVER OUT CLOSED. IT'S NOT FINISHED PULLING AND FENCING JUST FROM JUST SHIFTING IT DOWN FROM RIGHT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THAT BUSINESS. SINCE WE'RE ALL COMPLETE FOR RIGHT NOW FOR. SO IT'S STILL GOING TO BE UP AT WASHINGTON ROAD UP TO THAT POINT FROM WASHINGTON ROAD TO JUST SHOULDER THAT PROPERTY. SO WE STILL NEED TO KEEP THE AREA CONTAINED AND CONFINED UNTIL WE COMPLETE IT. SO ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THE THE YELLOW THE ORANGE FENCING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO THAT PART? ARE YOU REPLACING THE FENCING WITH SOMETHING ELSE? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. NO, THE FENCE IS STILL BE AS IT IS NOW THE CITY THROUGH OUR WIRE FENCE, BUT JUST SHIFTING AND MOVING IT JUST FROM DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THAT BUSINESS. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M SO I CAN CATCH UP. WILL THE FENCE BE IN FRONT OF THAT BUSINESS TOMORROW. YOU PLAN ON MOVING THAT. IS THAT THE ONLY BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE MOVING THE FENCE FROM? WELL, YES. SO WE STILL NEED TO KEEP THE REST OF THE AREAS CLOSED OFF. WE STILL CAN'T DRIVE THROUGH IT AND CAN'T WALK THROUGH. SO THAT'LL BE THE ONLY ADJUSTMENT TO THE FENCE RIGHT THERE. SO WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO. SO LET ME REPHRASE THIS. IS IT POSSIBLE TO REMOVE THE FENCING NOW AND PLACE THE SMALLER FENCE FOR THE OTHER BUSINESSES SO THEY WON'T BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED? NOT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S IF YOU FROM THE FENCE IS GOING TO BE MOVED FROM IN FRONT OF EAT MY BISCUITS ONLY BECAUSE THAT AREA WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE OF A GREEN SPACE AREA. THE REST OF THE AREA IS STILL GOING TO HAVE TO REQUIRE SOME PAVERS BEING LAID, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP THE FENCE THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY WALKING OVER FOR ANY REASON. ONCE WE START PUTTING PAVERS DOWN, IF YOU MOVE A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN, COMING TOWARDS IN FRONT OF THE BARBERSHOP OR THE SMOKE SHOP, WE STILL HAVE TO POUR SOME MORE CONCRETE. IT'S STILL THE WIRE. I MEAN THE REBAR THAT'S IN THERE. SO WE STILL HAVE TO POUR SOME MORE CONCRETE. SO WE STILL HAVE TO KEEP THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO POUR IT IN, HAVE THAT FENCE AND PEOPLE STEP OVER IT, WHICH THEY WILL, AND WALK THROUGH IT, PUT THE INITIALS IN IT OR WHATEVER YOU THINK IT MIGHT HAPPEN. SO THOSE AREAS WILL BE COMING WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AS SOON AS WE GET THAT CONCRETE POURED THERE. SO AS WE GET THE CONCRETE POURED, WE'LL START MOVING DOWN, PUTTING THE PAVERS IN, AND WE'LL START MOVING IT DOWN. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO YIELD MY TIME TO COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CVB'S PARTICIPATION TOO.

BUT I'LL YIELD AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. THAT PARTICIPATION. SOMETIMES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THE MAP, AND I KNOW SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT YOU HAD BEFORE WHERE YOU HAD THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT WERE GOING IN. SO YOU GUYS KIND OF CLOSED OFF EVERYTHING, I GUESS, INITIALLY GOING DOWN BECAUSE YOU HAD TO TAKE CARE OF SOME ISSUES WITH. THE RAIL LINES AND SOME, SOME PIPES AND STUFF.

CORRECT. THAT, THAT WAS. THAT WAS THE REASON THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE USED TO TO KIND OF CORDON OFF THAT AREA SO THAT PEOPLE COULDN'T JUST WALK THROUGH THAT CONSTRUCTION AREA INITIALLY. CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO I KNOW YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE THE FENCE FROM EAT MY BISCUIT. AND I'M JUST THINKING THE AREA THAT'S BY THE CVS, IS ANY OF THAT COMPLETE? BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE I'M THINKING IF WE YOU'RE STARTING ON MAIN STREET AT THE CORNER OF WASHINGTON ROAD AND MAIN STREET, LIKE THE PROGRESSION WOULD JUST KIND OF GO FROM CVS AND YOU SORT OF WORK YOUR WAY DOWN. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU STARTED BECAUSE, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT'S GOING ON BY THE CVS, BUT THEN WE'RE SORT OF JUMPING AND WE'RE GOING TO THE AREA WHERE THE EAT MY BISCUIT, WHICH IS FINE. I DON'T I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IS THERE AN ORDER FOR HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW

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THE STUFF, HOW THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED? BASICALLY, I JUST MAYBE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION IS THAT. BECAUSE THAT INTERSECTION, NOT JUST WITH THESE, MY BISCUIT JUST PULLING OUT TRAFFIC COMING IN THE FLOW, THAT'S AN AREA THAT THAT THEY GOT TOGETHER AND WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND SAID, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO? BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A TO GET THIS AREA MOVED FORWARD OR KIND OF CLEAR THIS AREA UP A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN WHEN THE PAVERS START COMING IN NEAR THE CVS, BECAUSE CVS DOES HAVE SEVERAL ACCESS TO THEIR BUSINESS, RIGHT. THE PAVER PART OF THAT WILL START THERE AND THEY WILL WORK THEIR WAY WORKING THEIR WAY DOWN. OKAY.

SO SO IT IS A METHOD TO THE MADNESS AND HOW WE JUST WE KIND OF OKAY. THAT'S FINE. SO IT WAS FIRST INTENDED JUST TO DO IT IN PHASES. SO THE WHOLE WE WOULDN'T HAVE A WHOLE IMPACT DOWN. BUT UNFORESEEN THAT THIS WAS AN IMPACT ITSELF. OKAY. AND LET'S SEE. SO I KNOW THEY'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT JUST CORDONING OFF THE AREA. SO IF YOU SORT OF LIKE, YOU BOX IT OUT AND MAYBE WHERE PEOPLE THAT THEY COULD BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY STILL GO DOWN. DORSEY.

CORRECT. YOU CAN TRAVEL DOWN DORSEY. YES, MA'AM. AND MAYBE FROM THERE WE DO SOME SORT OF DIRECTIONAL SIGNS THAT WILL KIND OF GUIDE PEOPLE PAST THE CONSTRUCTION AREA THAT'S CORDONED OFF AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF DIRECT THEM TO THE BUSINESSES TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE STILL THERE'S FOOT ACCESS TO SOMEWHERE THEY CAN'T DRIVE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, UP TO PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THOSE BUSINESSES. THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE CONSIDER. AND HAVE YOU ALSO CONSIDERED NIGHT CONSTRUCTION? BECAUSE THE CITY PRETTY MUCH HAS SHUT DOWN AT NIGHT TIME, AND THAT WAY YOU CAN GET I MEAN, YOU CAN REALLY GET A GOOD MOVE ON IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS OR IF THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST, BUT BECAUSE MAIN STREET IS SUCH A HEAVILY TRAVELED, TRAVELED AREA THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE DAY, THROUGH ALL, ALL DAY LONG, HAVE WE CONSIDERED DOING SOME SORT OF NIGHT CONSTRUCTION? YES, MA'AM. AND ACTUALLY, THAT'S IN CONVERSATION TOO, FOR THE FACT THAT THEY'RE BEHIND. IT WOULD POTENTIALLY INCREASE THE COST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE LIGHTING. AND A FEW THINGS MIGHT HAVE TO ADD TO IT OR, OR, OR STAFFING OVERTIME, WORKING DURING THE DAY AND AT NIGHT.

BUT THERE IS CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING THAT HAPPEN. SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP THIS PROCESS GOING. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AND THE LAST THING I DON'T KNOW IF WE WE HAVE ALL THE I'M SURE THERE'S CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ALL OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE ALONG MAIN STREET THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THIS. MAYBE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE DO SOME SORT OF WEEKLY OR BI WEEKLY UPDATE, YOU KNOW, TO GO DIRECTLY EMAIL TO EACH ONE OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS SO THEY CAN SORT OF TRACK EXACTLY WHERE. I KNOW YOU SAID YOU ALSO WOULD PUT SOMETHING I THINK, ON, YOU KNOW, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS AND THE CITY'S WEB PAGE. BUT JUST AS A COURTESY, YOU KNOW, TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS, JUST SO THEY CAN KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT OUR PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, THE BEHIND THE SCENES, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROGRESS LOOKS LIKE WITH REGARDS TO THIS, THIS ROAD PROJECT. YES, MA'AM. AND THAT IS EXCUSE ME, THAT IS PART OF OUR DIRECT CONTACT, WEEKLY CONTACT THAT WE WILL BE MAKING DIRECT CONTACT AS FAR AS EMAILS AND NOTIFICATIONS AND ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER SO THEY CAN HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR HAVE SOMEBODY IN CONTACT. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU I YIELD. THANK YOU MA'AM.

COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, DIRECTOR REEVES AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY AROUND. I THINK CITY MANAGER JONES AND MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS, HAVE TOUCHED ON A BIT OF THIS. WHEN I THINK OF THIS PROJECT, I KNOW THAT THE PROJECT IS HOUSED IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, BUT I ALSO THINK OF THIS AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY IMPACTING THE BUSINESSES ALONG OUR MAIN STREET AREA AND WHERE ALL OF THIS CONSTRUCTION IS TAKING PLACE. SO AT WHAT LEVEL OR HOW MUCH PARTICIPATION OR COLLABORATION IS HAPPENING BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MY FEAR IS THAT YOU'LL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL STREETSCAPE, BUT THEN THE BUSINESSES WILL SUFFER AND CLOSE. SO THEN WE HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE WITH THE BEAUTIFUL STREETSCAPE. SO WHAT IS HAPPENING? HOW MUCH ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT IS TAKING PLACE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS PERSPECTIVE IS A VERY TECHNICAL PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A RELATIONSHIP PART. I WOULD BELIEVE THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND SHOULD BE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO KEEP THEM UP TO DATE AND TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS, AND HOPEFULLY THAT COULD HELP DRIVE WHAT YOU'RE PUSHING OUT TO THE CONTRACTORS IN TERMS OF THE NEED TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE. SO HOW MUCH COLLABORATION IS THERE TAKING PLACE? THANK YOU.

AND TO YOUR POINT, SOMETIMES WE DO GET WHITTLED DOWN IN THE TECHNICAL ASPECT SO MUCH THAT

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THE COMMUNICATION NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, BETTER, IMPROVED. SO WE WORK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE WAY. PROJECT GIVING THEM UPDATES ON WHERE WE ARE, AND THEY'VE ASKED FOR UPDATES ON THE PROJECT. BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S PART OF OUR PROCESS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE NOW AND GET THEM WEEKLY UPDATES SO THEY CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. SO MISS ROGERS AND ROGERS HAS WORKED WITH ME. SHE HAD NICE SIGNS OUT THERE INITIALLY THAT BUSINESSES ARE STILL OPEN. WE HAD TO REPLACE THEM. WE FADED OVER TIME. BUT SHE HAS WORKED WITH MYSELF AND ASKED THE PROJECT PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT SO SHE CAN RELATE IT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR CORRECTIVE ACTION SLIDE, PLEASE, MR. HALL? YES. SO ON THIS SLIDE, I THINK THAT THESE ARE ALL GREAT POINTS AND ACTION TO TAKE TO CORRECT AND GET US BACK ON TRACK. I JUST DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT COLLABORATING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING ON HERE. I THINK YOUR YOUR LAST BULLET TALKS ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND CITY WEBSITE. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT AT ALL FOR ANY BUSINESS TO FOLLOW THE CITY SOCIAL MEDIA. AND SO THERE'S A VERY HUMANISTIC PERSPECTIVE TO THIS. IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE LIVING IN DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN. RIGHT? I THINK THAT THERE'S ENOUGH BUSINESSES THE SIZE OF THE OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA WOULD LEND ITSELF TO HAVE VERY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE. SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS POINT, A SUGGESTION IS MAYBE A MONDAY CHECK IN MONDAY TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK THAT HAPPENED THE WEEK BEFORE AND MANAGE AGAINST WHATEVER THAT SCHEDULE WAS AND THE TASK WERE, AND THEN TO LET THE BUSINESSES KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD EXPECT TO HAPPEN THIS WHOLE WEEK, AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE IN-PERSON MEETINGS WITH THE WITH THE BUSINESSES SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, WHAT'S OFF TRACK, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH WEATHER 21 DAYS OUT OF THE MONTH OF JUNE FOR 30 DAYS, HOW THAT'S IMPACTED THIS AND HOW WE PLAN TO MITIGATE THAT. SO IF WE'RE JUST HOPING THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA OR THROUGH AN EMAIL THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FRUSTRATED BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING. I THINK THE NEWS STORY THAT MISS ROY DID, SHE'S THE BARTENDER, THE SERVER, THE COOK, THE GREETER, SHE DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIME TO CHECK THE EMAILS. BUT IF THERE WERE AN IN-PERSON MEETING THAT WOULD GIVE THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AN UPDATE OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK, WE'RE ON TRACK. OR AHEAD OF THAT, WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT THIS WEEK AND TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS SO THAT THOSE THINGS CAN BE ADDRESSED ALONG THE WAY. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. THAT WOULD JUST BE A SUGGESTION, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT A COLLABORATION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MANAGING THAT RELATIONSHIP PART WHILE YOU'RE DOING THE VERY TECHNICAL PART AND WORKING TOGETHER, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN AND NO BUSINESSES BECAUSE THE LACK OF REVENUE OR SALES THAT THE BUSINESSES ARE EXPERIENCING, THAT'S VERY REAL. AND SO THOSE BUSINESSES COULD CLOSE, THEY COULD BE IN JEOPARDY OF CLOSING.

AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO THIS IS NOT A DIG. BUT I JUST THINK ABOUT L CIRCLE. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A REPEAT OF L CIRCLE. IT TOOK US WAY TOO LONG TO DO L CIRCLE, AND NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH BUSINESSES AND THE LIVELIHOOD OF FOLKS AND, YOU KNOW, JOBS AND PAYCHECKS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORE ROBUST CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN WHERE THERE'S GREATER COLLABORATION WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY SO THAT THERE'S A OUTREACH, A PERSONAL, IN-PERSON MEETINGS. WE'RE RELYING TOO MUCH ON TECHNOLOGY. WE'LL SEND THIS OUT.

AND BECAUSE WE SENT IT OUT, THEY SHOULD HAVE IT. THEY SHOULD KNOW IT VERSUS ACTUALLY GOING AND MEETING WITH THESE BUSINESSES AND HEARING THE CONCERNS AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED AND KEEPING THEM ABREAST OF THE DELAYS AND THE CHALLENGES. AND SO I WOULD OFFER THAT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS YOUR YOUR SCHEDULE, BECAUSE OF THE LINEAR NATURE OF THAT, I WASN'T REALLY ABLE TO READ ALL OF THAT. COULD YOU JUST SHARE WITH US IN LAYMAN TERMS, HOW FAR BEHIND ARE WE AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN? OR WHAT IS THE STRATEGY TO CATCH UP? SO THAT BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT FIFA, RIGHT. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE MONEY FOR THE CITY THROUGH SALES TAXES. WE WANT THESE BUSINESSES TO BE OPEN SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET OFF THAT MART AND WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND SPEND THEIR DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME MONEY BACK. SO IF WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THIS CAREFULLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE WAY BEHIND. FIFA'S GOING TO COME AND EASTPOINT IS GOING TO GET OVERLOOKED. NO ONE IS GOING TO COME. TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THERE ARE TWO STATEMENTS THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO, BUT OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND I YESTERDAY JUST WAS DISCUSSING THAT SAME THING ABOUT HAVING A FULL OUT BLAST MEETING WITH THE FOLKS HANDS ON KIND OF THING.

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SO WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING THAT YESTERDAY, WHICH KIND OF ENCOMPASSES SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH INVOLVING THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO COME TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL THE NEEDS OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THAT AREA. SO WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING THAT YESTERDAY. THEN THE OTHER THING WITH TIME WISE IS ONE, EXTENDING THE HOURS, THE WORK HOURS, WORKING WEEKENDS, WORKING NIGHTS. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THESE THINGS WITH WITH THE CONTRACTOR. GOODELL, ABOUT THREE, FOUR WEEKS BEHIND. YES, PROBABLY THREE I WOULD SAY IN LAYMAN'S TERM, THREE MONTHS BEHIND. SO LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TALKING WITH THE CONTRACT ABOUT EXTENDING WORK HOURS. LIKE FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT CONCRETE DELIVERY THAT THEY'RE ORDERING CONCRETE 9:00 IN THE MORNING. THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT FROM THE VENDORS UNTIL 1 OR 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. DO WE NEED TO PUSH THE HOURS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO START LATER AND WORK LATER IN THE DAY? YOU KNOW, JUST THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S BUILDING RIGHT NOW. SO MATERIALS AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE A CONSIDERATION. SO YEAH, WE'RE APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS BEHIND. BUT IF WE CHANGE OUR STRATEGY, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE CAN CATCH UP AND READJUST OUR SCHEDULE AND JUST UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THOSE DELAYS WERE WITH INSTALLATION AND UTILITIES. BUT YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE DELAYS. WE WE'RE NOT RUNNING INTO THAT. THE UTILITIES ARE. THE UTILITIES, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE THE PROCESS OF SLOWING DOWN. MOST OF THAT 99% OF THAT IS DONE.

IT'S DONE AS WELL BECAUSE THIS WHOLE PROJECT ENCOMPASSES EAST POINT STREET AS WELL. SO IF YOU'VE SEEN THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON OUT HERE AND THE WORK DOWN THE STREET, ALL THAT ENCOMPASSES THIS PROJECT AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THAT STUFF WILL BE DONE. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE A LITTLE FASTER AS WE GO ALONG ON THE PROCESS. OR THAT'S THE ANTICIPATION HEARING THAT WE ARE THREE MONTHS BEHIND. HAVE YOU PUT TOGETHER A PLAN TO MAKE UP? BECAUSE ABSENT A PLAN, THEN IT'S JUST OUR DREAM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT UP IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING. SO DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO MAKE UP FOR THAT? BECAUSE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED. THIS IS GOING TO REALLY HURT BUSINESSES. IF THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO LAG. AND ONE OF OUR OUR MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE OVERSEEING THIS PROJECT BENCHMARK, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. THEY'RE THEY KNOW CONSTRUCTION THEMSELVES, BUT THEY'RE OVERSEEING THIS PROJECT KNOWING WHERE THE DELAYS ARE WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL TO COME UP WITH THAT PLAN.

AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. I WAS GOING TO SAY EARLIER IS THAT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER UPDATE, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO DO A TRANSPORTATION UPDATE NEXT MONTH ON OUR WORK SESSION, OCTOBER WORK OCTOBER WORK SESSION. SO WE WILL HAVE MORE OF AN UPDATE AND TIMELINE IN OCTOBER WHEN WE DO OUR OVERALL TRANSPORTATION UPDATES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THIS, ALL THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FOR YOU AND IN THAT UPDATE DIRECTORIES. AM I HEARING THAT YOU WILL HAVE A PLAN, A TIMELINE THAT WILL ADDRESS HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE UP, IF NOT ALL A GOOD PORTION OF THOSE THREE MONTHS THAT WE'RE BEHIND A DETAILED PLAN FOR THAT THAT BENCHMARK IS GOING TO PROVIDE IS THAT IS BENCHMARK GOING TO BE TASKED WITH DOING THAT? WE'LL BE WORKING WITH BENCHMARK TO THAT TASK. YES, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING BENCHMARK, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S MANAGING THAT CONTRACT, BUT IF THAT IS ONE OF THEIR DELIVERABLES, SOMEONE IS GOING TO STAY ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING A VERY STRONG PLAN TO MAKE UP SO THAT THESE BUSINESSES, THE IMPACT TO THE BUSINESSES IS NOT JUST GOING TO DRAG ON. AND THAT'LL BE A PART OF THE UPDATE THAT YOU ALL WILL PROVIDE TO US.

YES. NOW ALSO WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE WORKING ON MAIN STREET. WE'LL BE MOVING AROUND TO EAST POINT STREET, WHICH WILL NOT HAVE SUCH AN IMPACT AS WILL WITH EAST MAIN STREET. WE HOPE THAT'S. YES, THAT'S THE PROJECT FOR JACKSON. YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND IN TERMS OF THE CORRECTION ACTION, THERE WILL BE. AM I HEARING THAT THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION ALREADY, BUT GREATER COLLABORATION WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THE BUSINESSES NEED TO KNOW. ABSENT OF INFORMATION, PEOPLE MAKE UP STUFF BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION SHOULD COME FROM US, THE CITY, AND IT SHOULD BE CLEAR AND CONCISE AND THE BUSINESSES SHOULD NOT BE IN THE DARK. THEY SHOULD KNOW WHEN THEIR DELAYS. I MEAN, SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS ARE DIFFICULT TO TAKE, BUT TRUTH, IT CAN LEVEL SET EXPECTATION AND THEN THEY CAN PLAN APPROPRIATELY. YES, SIR. THAT SO THOSE THINGS WILL BE AUGMENTED. THE CORRECTION ACTION TO INCLUDE GREATER COLLABORATION AND ALL OF THAT.

YES SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. ROGER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, GENTLEMEN, AND MY APOLOGIES TO THE BUSINESS OWNER, BUT I WANT TO ALSO REFLECT BACK, MR. CITY MANAGER, THIS DOES KIND OF REMIND US OF THE L CIRCLE PROJECT, BUT INSTEAD, RESIDENTS WERE INCONVENIENCED. BUT DURING THAT CONVERSATION

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WITH YOU AND ONE ON ONE WITH RESIDENTS, WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNICATION, KEEPING THE PEOPLE MOST IMPACTED INFORMED, A SITE CHECKS AND BALANCE SYSTEM BEING DONE BY THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED ON TIME AND CONTRACTORS ARE CLEANING UP AFTER THEMSELVES. BUT ONE THING STOOD OUT IN THAT CONVERSATION. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU DISCUSSED WITHHOLDING PAYMENT TO CONTRACTORS, AND THAT WOULD BE A SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES IN ORDER TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A BIGGER ISSUE HERE WITH THE CONTRACTOR NOT BEING ON SITE, NOT WORKING EVERY DAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS, BUT I DO REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION YOU TALKED ABOUT WITHHOLDING PAYMENT UNTIL THE JOB WAS DONE. AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PLANS AS TO HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES. YOU'RE CORRECT. WE DID SPEAK ABOUT THAT. AND I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH DIRECTOR REEVES ABOUT THAT. NOW, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S A STATE CONTRACT, BUT CERTAINLY WITH LOCAL CONTRACTS, WE NEED TO START EXPLORING MORE.

HAVING LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND HAVING SOME TIMELINES LAID OUT IN OUR CONTRACTS SO THAT SHOULD WE FIND SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE THERE MAY BE. ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, BUSINESSES OR RESIDENTIAL THAT ARE EXPERIENCING FINANCIAL CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES OR OR GOING BEYOND CONTRACT INITIAL CONTRACT TIMELINES THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES BUILT INTO THOSE AGREEMENTS. SO WE CERTAINLY HAVE LOOKED AT THAT. THIS IS OR CERTAINLY I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

CERTAINLY ALSO LOOKING AT HAVING OUR OUR BOND REQUIREMENTS, PARTICULARLY BID BONDS, BE ENFORCEABLE AND PERFORMANCE BONDS BEING ENFORCEABLE, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS TO KIND OF STRENGTHEN TO MAKE SURE THAT SHOULD WE RUN INTO THE SITUATIONS WHERE CONTRACTORS ARE ARE NOT MEETING OUR NEEDS, THAT THERE'S SOME CONSEQUENCES BUILT INTO OUR ARRANGEMENTS WITH THEM. THAT IT COUNCIL. THEY JUST GAVE A PLAN. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. REEVES AND MR. HALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. I DO NOT WANT TO BELABOR THIS ANY FURTHER, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS POINT, WHICH I WAS GOING TO SAY AS WELL. THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A, YOU KNOW, A BEAUTIFUL STREETSCAPE WHEN IT'S DONE. WE JUST DON'T WANT AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF LOSING BUSINESSES IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROCESS. SO THAT IS A REAL CONSIDERATION. BUT THAT SAID, WE'RE LITERALLY BUILDING THE PLANE AS WE'RE FLYING IT. THIS IS A BUSY STREET. THIS IS A MARTA STATION. THESE ARE OPEN BUSINESSES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CONFLICT. BUT I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE, COMMUNICATE AND JUST MOVE IT FORWARD IS ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ONE MORE THING, A SUGGESTION. I WAS LOOKING ON THE EAT MY BISCUITS WEBSITE AND I NOTICED THAT YOU'RE OPEN AT NINE IN THE MORNING, SO MAYBE A SUGGESTION. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS. CONNECTED, OR JUST AS FAR AS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS TALKED ABOUT. YOU KNOW, JUST LETTING THEM KNOW, KEEPING THEM UPDATED WITH THE WITH, WITH WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, POSSIBLY MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF WEEKLY OR BI WEEKLY, MAYBE A MEETING AT EAT MY BISCUITS. I'M SURE SHE WOULDN'T MIND HOSTING IT. FOR ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THAT AREA. IT GENERATES SOME BUSINESS AND IT GIVES THE BUSINESS OWNERS ALL THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AND TALK WITH SOMEONE YOU KNOW IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OR SOMEONE FROM THE CITY TO KEEP THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS, YOU KNOW, IN TOUCH WITH, YOU KNOW, ON THE PULSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH REGARDS TO THE PROGRESSION OF THIS PROJECT. JUST A SUGGESTION, BUT I GOT A NOD FROM MISS ROY, SO I THINK SHE'S ON BOARD WITH THAT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. OKAY.

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COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER, MADAM MAYOR, I'M GOING TO ADD A LITTLE LEVITY TO IT. I KNOW IT'S A LONG NIGHT, BUT I HAVE HAD PEOPLE EITHER EAT MY BISCUIT AND I DIDN'T USE MY CITY CREDIT CARD. I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE ALL SUPPORTED EAT MY BISCUIT AND NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT DEFINITELY OUR BUSINESSES. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PROMOTING ONE BUSINESS FROM THE DAIS THAT CREATES A CHALLENGE FOR STAFF AND FOR THE CITY AROUND. HOW WE TREATING ALL BUSINESSES. AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AROUND THE TIMELINE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FENCING IS GOING TO BE MOVED TOMORROW. AFTER THE LANDSCAPING AND MULCH IS PUT IN, BUT ONE OF THE VERY SPECIFIC ASKS TONIGHT IN THE NEWS ARTICLE IN THE NEWS CLIP OR REPORT, WAS FOR MONEY TO THE BUSINESS, FOR LOST REVENUE AND EVERYONE THAT'S TALKED. BUT NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AGAIN, BECAUSE OUR FORMER GOVERNMENT REQUIRES THAT THE MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY, WE'RE DOING THIS, WE'RE DOING THAT. IT ACTUALLY TAKES A VOTE OF COUNCIL FOR DECISIONS LIKE THAT TO BE MADE. AND THEN IF IT'S OPERATIONAL, THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER. AND SO THAT'S A SPECIFIC REQUEST OR CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN RAISED. AND I THINK FOR US NOT TO AT LEAST ADDRESS IT TONIGHT WOULD MISS THE WHOLE MARK. YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER STORY ABOUT NOT ADDRESSING IT. AS I SAID IN OPENING UP, THE CITY OF ATLANTA IS NOT USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO PAY BUSINESSES ON CASCADE ROAD FOR WHATEVER LOST REVENUE. I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY WOULD EVEN ESTABLISH THAT OR IF THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THAT. THEY HAVE DECIDED THAT THROUGH INVEST ATLANTA AND THROUGH THE TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT, THAT CERTAIN BUSINESSES WILL GET FUNDING TO IMPROVE THEIR INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR. AND SO. IS THIS PROJECT IN THE COURT IS THAT I MEAN, IS THIS AREA OF OUR CITY IN THE CLEVELAND AVENUE CORRIDOR HAD DOES ANYBODY KNOW THAT? I KNOW CLEVELAND AVENUE IS CLEVELAND AVENUE, BUT I THINK IT LOOPS AROUND AND WAS LATER. THERE MAY BE A DISCUSSION IF WE HAVE UPDATES OF HOW THAT OVERLAYS, BUT ACTUALLY GETTING THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT AT SOME POINT I HEAR IT GOES UP TO MAIN STREET. I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT STOPS ON MAIN STREET, BUT THIS REQUEST OF FUNDING IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID THAT DOING THAT FROM PAYING BUSINESSES MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND COULD POTENTIALLY VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION, GEORGIA CONSTITUTION, GRATUITIES CLAUSE. AND SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR AGAIN, THE CITY OF ATLANTA IS NOT USING GENERAL FUNDS FOR THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAYOR'S PRESS RELEASE, IT'S SPECIFICALLY AND CLEARLY STATES WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM AND WHAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE USED FOR.

I KNOW MR. JONES MENTIONED EARLIER THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, BUSINESS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF FUNDING THEY HAVE AROUND THAT. I CAN IMAGINE, AND I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH ATLANTA'S MAYOR AND GET A CHANCE TO DO IT TODAY. I WAS IN COURT, BUT AROUND. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A TOTAL OF $250,000 THAT THEY'VE ALLOCATED FROM WITHIN THAT TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S INCREMENT OR HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT FUNDING THROUGH THE TAB, WHICH IS AN AREA THAT GENERALLY MONEY FROM BUSINESSES GOES INTO. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT REQUEST.

AND IF THAT AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ANSWER TONIGHT, MR. JONES, CITY MANAGER JONES AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY ON FRIDAY. WE SAID WE BOTH TRY TO LOOK AND TRY TO GET SOME INFORMATION AROUND WHAT ATLANTA WAS DOING. BUT, YOU KNOW, EAT MY BISCUITS IS HERE FIRST BECAUSE THEIR SEGMENT WAS DONE FIRST. RIGHT. AND WHAT MISS ROY HAS HEARD A LOT OF LIKE LESSONS LEARNED AND WHAT WE MAY DO MOVING FORWARD THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS WHAT SHE'S ALREADY EXPERIENCED, WHAT SHE'S EXPERIENCING, AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT IT MAY HAVE HAD.

RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S THAT. AND I'LL TURN IT TO EITHER LEGAL OR THE CITY MANAGER, ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN TO RESPOND ON THAT? THE COMPLETION DATE OF FEBRUARY 2026 OR MARCH 2026. THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. THAT'S THE GOAL ALL THE WAY DOWN. THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THE SEGMENT WHERE

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WE CURRENTLY ARE, CORRECT. THE SEGMENT WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE. YOU MENTIONED THE FENCING STUFF BEING MOVED IN FRONT OF MY FROM IN FRONT OF MY BISCUIT. WHEN DOES IT WHEN IS IT? SLATED TO MOVE FURTHER DOWN. SO LIKE THIS WHOLE SEGMENT IS CLEARED UP OKAY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE STARTING TO CONTINUE MOVING FURTHER UP MAIN STREET LIKE THIS COMING WEEK. GOING INTO NEXT WEEK, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TASKED OUR CONTRACTORS WITH IS GIVE US A RECOVERY SCHEDULE, SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS IS ASKING FOR BY THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS THIS FRIDAY.

SO WE'LL HAVE SOME ANSWERS ON EVERYTHING. THEY'RE PLANNING TO OPEN IT UP. THE FIRST SEGMENT, WHICH IS FROM THE CVS EAT MY BISCUITS, AS WELL AS RECOVERY PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO WE REQUESTED THAT AND WE'LL HAVE IT A BETTER ANSWER FOR THAT AT OUR UPDATE. MR. REEVES MENTIONED HOW OFTEN. HAVE YOU ALL COMMUNICATED WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THIS SEGMENT? IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A HUGE AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT AND OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET A BIT MORE PROACTIVE AND RELATIONAL AND REALLY INFORMING THEM ALONG THE WAY. THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT HAPPENED HERE, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SO OUR BENCHMARK WAS OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FIRM. THEY'RE MORE ON THE GROUND TALKING TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS INDIVIDUALLY, BUT BUT THE BUSINESS OWNERS PAY TAXES TO US. THE BUSINESS OWNERS SUPPORT WHAT'S IN OUR CITY. SO LIKE EXPECTING CONTRACTORS TO SPEAK WITH BUSINESS OWNERS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE EXPECTATION. TO YOUR POINT, I AGREE, AND THAT WE FORMALLY NEED A FORMAL MEETING WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM THE CITY IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO DO, LIKE A WEEKLY MEETING.

THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. SO IN FEBRUARY AND SEPTEMBER, RIGHT.

IT FIRST STARTED AROUND THE END OF FEBRUARY BASED ON YOUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE NOW MID SEPTEMBER. ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES HAVE Y'ALL COMMUNICATED WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS. DIRECTLY? WE HAVEN'T MET WITH THEM. ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS HAS ONLY BEEN VIA COMMUNICATION THROUGH LETTERS AND EMAILS. SO IT HASN'T BEEN ANY DIRECT MEETINGS WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS AS A WHOLE. WELL, I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO IMPROVEMENT IN THAT ASAP. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN A BUSINESS OWNER LIKE WHEN I REACH OUT AFTER I GET THE CONCERN AND TALK WITH STAFF AND STAFF, SHARES INFORMATION WITH ME, I REALIZE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND WHAT WAS SHARED WITH ME IS THAT THEY WERE TALKING WITH THE OWNERS OF OF EAT MY BISCUIT AND THE OTHER OWNERS IN THE AREA. IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO KNOW THAT THAT WASN'T HAPPENING, BUT MR. JONES AND ATTORNEY WIGGINS AGAIN, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OR DIDN'T COME UP ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING OR THE REQUEST FOR POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPACT ON BUSINESSES AS IT RELATES TO THIS AND WHAT NOT ASKING FOR AN ANSWER, BUT I THINK THERE'S ONE PLACE WHERE WE CAN'T GO, AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER PLACES WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONSIDER. AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WELL, CERTAINLY. AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DEVELOPED AND FLESHED OUT. BUT I THINK AND I CERTAINLY WILL YIELD TO GEORGIA LAW AND THE GRATUITY CLAUSE AND WHAT EXACTLY THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT I'M CERTAINLY FAMILIAR WITH CITIES, PARTICULARLY BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. FOR BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE A STRONG PERFORMANCE BOND, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THAT THAT INSURANCE COMPANY IS IS BACKING THAT CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR. AND AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF WHERE CITIES ARE SAYING, NO, THEY'RE NOT MEETING THIS. AND YOU LITERALLY PUT IN A CLAIM AND ADVOCATE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR DAMAGES WHERE THE CITY GOES THROUGH, GO THROUGH A PROCESS, ASK THE BUSINESS OWNER TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION THAT SHOWS DAMAGES BASED ON GROSS SALES, GROSS RECEIPTS, ALL KINDS OF VARIOUS AREAS OR ISSUES OF EVIDENCE TO PROVIDE THAT CASE. AND THE CITY LITERALLY ADVOCATES FOR FOR THAT CLAIM TO BE PAID OUT THROUGH A PERFORMANCE BOND. BUT ALSO I'VE SEEN SITUATIONS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS. AND SO I KIND OF ALLUDED TO THE DDA. AND BY THE I THINK TO YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T THINK THE DDA, BASED ON MY RECENT CONVERSATIONS, HAVE MUCH OF A WAR CHEST, IF YOU WILL. BUT I KNOW VIDA DOES. AND SO MAYBE THROUGH A JOINT PARTNERSHIP, MAYBE THERE IS A WAY TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THOSE DAMAGES, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A PERFORMANCE BOND, I

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STILL PUT A BIG QUESTION MARK ON THAT. THAT STILL HAS TO BE KIND OF FLESHED OUT AND CERTAINLY BE IDENTIFIED BY LEGAL AS SOMETHING THAT IS IS APPLICABLE, BUT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE, I THINK AS AS HAS BEEN ALSO MENTIONED, I KNOW THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IS A WAY AT TRAINING, BUT I KNOW HE EXPRESSED HAVING CONVERSATIONS.

I NEVER WAS BRIEFED ON THOSE. SO WHEN HE RETURNS, I'LL I'LL GET UPDATED ON WHAT EXACTLY THOSE CONVERSATIONS LOOK LIKE AND MAKING SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, THAT IT'S ROBUST AND WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH PUBLIC WORKS SO THAT THERE'S A COORDINATED EFFORT. DID YOU SAY THIS PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE A PERFORMANCE BOND? I AM NOT AWARE OF IT. I LET THE WELL, IT'S ABOUT GEORGIA LAW REQUIRES A PERFORMANCE BOND. WELL, THAT WOULD BE A REAL PROBLEM. SO THAT PERFORMANCE BOND MIGHT BE THE STATE I I'LL LET THEM CLARIFY ON THAT. I SEE STAFF NODDING THEIR HEAD. I MEAN THAT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT. THAT'S A STATE LAW. I JUST LEARNED ABOUT MORE ABOUT IT THIS WEEK. LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS IN TRAINING. YES THERE IS. WE CAN BRIEF THE CITY MANAGER ON THE DETAILS. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED ON THAT. SO YEAH PERFORMANCE BOND IS AN OPTION. PARTNERSHIPS WITH DDA AND VIDA. DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS AN ATTACK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COURT IS THAT MADAM. OH WHO PAYS THE PERFORMANCE ONE I'M ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION RHETORICALLY ON THE RECORD BECAUSE I NEED TO BE CLEAR WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM. WHO PAYS THE PERFORMANCE BOND NORMALLY WITH THE CONTRACTORS? DO THEY GO OUT AND GET A BROKER OR HOWEVER, AND THE CONTRACT IS PAID FOR THE PERFORMANCE? SO THAT'S NOT CITY DOLLARS. THAT'S NOT GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. PAYING FOR THE PERFORMANCE BOND? NO, MA'AM. SO THE. CONTRACTOR PAYS IT. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER SAYING THERE MAY BE SOME POSSIBILITIES WITHIN THAT BOND. I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR WHERE MONEY'S COMING FROM. YEAH. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME MECHANICS OF THAT, AND I, I WAS KIND OF REFERRING BACK INTO, LIKE, THE L CIRCLE SITUATION WHERE THAT WASN'T A STATE PROJECT, BUT THE MECHANICS OF A PERFORMANCE BOND IS USUALLY INSURANCE COMPANY THAT IS BACKED, THAT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY BACKS IS BACKED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY. THERE ARE SOME CASES WHEN YOU HAVE A VERY LUCRATIVE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WHERE THEY'LL THEY'LL WRITE THEIR OWN CHECK, AND THE CHECK IS THEN HELD IN ESCROW AND UTILIZED FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW THOSE THOSE SITUATIONS AND WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES, BUT TYPICALLY, IF THERE ARE CLAIMS, WE NEED TO BRING THOSE CLAIMS FORWARD. AND THEN ON THEN THERE'S A PROCESS ON WHERE THOSE CLAIMS ARE REVIEWED AND PAID OUT. ATTORNEY WIGGINS. SO MY UNDERSTANDING TWO THINGS IS THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, LIKE SOME LIQUIDATED DAMAGES, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW IS THAT THAT'S TO THE BENEFIT OF THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, NOT A PRIVATE PARTY. PERFORMANCE BONDS, THOUGH, USUALLY KICK IN. IF WE WERE TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT AND THOSE THAT GOING AGAINST THE BOND WOULD BE FOR THE BENEFIT ALSO OF THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT WITH SOME OTHER CONTRACTOR. SO I'M NOT SURE EITHER APPROACH WOULD GIVE US FUNDS TO THEN TURN AROUND AND GIVE IT TO A PRIVATE PARTY AND GENERAL FUND GRATUITY CLAUSE.

RIGHT. I'VE I'VE SPOKE ON THAT ALREADY. I JUST RENEWED THE SAME THING I'VE SAID IS THAT WE CAN'T VIOLATE IT. SO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO BENEFIT A PRIVATE ENTITY, PROVIDED THERE IS NO RECIPROCAL BENEFIT. BACK TO THE TO THE CITY. AND I APPRECIATE YOU RESTATING THAT THIS IS WANTING TO HAVE LIKE ONE SEGMENT OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT. THE FINANCIAL CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED. AND SO AS WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE CLEAR TODAY ABOUT WHAT POTENTIALLY OR WHERE POTENTIALLY THAT MAY COME FROM. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE GRATUITIES CLAUSE REGARDING USE OF CITY FUNDS, TAXPAYER FUNDS TO GIVING THEM TO A ENTITY OR A PERSON OR ANYONE WITHOUT A MUTUAL BENEFIT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT. AND AGAIN, THE CITY OF ATLANTA DID NOT USE GENERAL FUNDS. AND SO I THINK THE LAST QUESTION OR THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED IS WHETHER OR NOT. THIS MAIN STREET AREA IS IN THE CORE, JUST HAD LOOKING AT THE PERFORMANCE BOND, MAYBE CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING THAT GENERALLY ANY DAMAGES FROM THAT OR ANY FUNDS THAT CAN BE RECOUPED FROM THAT IS TO MAKE

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SURE THAT THE CONTRACT IS PERFORMED AND TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT. BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT LEGALLY LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IF THEY ARE IN GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS THAT THEY SHOULD BE USED FOR THE GOVERNMENT. NOT THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN THEN GET LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND THEN GIVE THEM TO THIRD PARTIES AND THEN THE PARTNERSHIPS AROUND DDA OR VIDA AND I. I'M NOT AWARE OF VIDA SITTING ON A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. SO IF SOMEBODY COULD TELL ME HOW MUCH MONEY VIDA HAS AND WHERE THEY GOT IT FROM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. IF YOU CAN EMAIL ME THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE I'M NOT AWARE. I THINK THEY ISSUED A COUPLE BONDS TO WAS THE ARDENNES GARDENS, OR MAYBE THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE. YEAH. DID THEY DO ANOTHER ONE? HOME DEPOT? SO TWO. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MR. WHITFIELD IS TALKING FROM THE AUDIENCE? CAN YOU COME UP, MR. WHITFIELD? WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR FINANCES IN THIS FORUM, BUT, I MEAN, YOU SAID THEY HAD A LOT OF MONEY. NO. SO I'M TRYING TO QUALIFY IF I SAY A LOT OF MONEY, I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME MONEY WHERE DDA DOESN'T HAVE A LOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE MAYBE ANY. IF YOU DON'T MIND A COUPLE THINGS. SO THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION, I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH ABOUT THE ATLANTA RECOVERY FUND THAT THEY USE TO FUND THOSE BUSINESSES. IT WAS A FUND THAT THEY STARTED BACK IN 2024 AFTER THEY HAD SOME WATER MAIN BREAKS. THEY WERE USING THE RESOURCES. THEY SET ASIDE THOSE RESOURCES. IT WAS A REVENUE. IT WAS A ENTERPRISE FUND THAT THEY SET ASIDE 7.5 MILLION TO SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY IT. ONCE THAT MONEY ONCE THIS PROJECT HAPPENED ON CASCADE ROAD, THEY PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT WHATEVER REMAINING DOLLARS OF THAT FUND WOULD BE USED TOWARDS THE CASCADE ROAD BUSINESSES. SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY, I THINK THERE IS A WAY IF WE CAN SPEND TIME THE CITY MANAGER, MYSELF, THE TEAM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO FIND A MODEL THAT MAY WORK. AND IN TERMS OF BUYING THOSE RESOURCES, I'M ONLY AWARE JUST BRIEFLY, I THINK THEY HAVE A LITTLE OVER $300,000 AVAILABLE FROM PROPERTY SOLD AND FROM BOND REVENUE. SO BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A MODEL WHERE WE CAN GET THERE TO HELP THE BUSINESSES. I THINK WE'RE WORKSHOPPING IT HERE, BUT I THINK ONCE WE SIT DOWN AS A TEAM, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIVE THAT'S BEEN VETTED BY LEGAL AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. ATKINS, BECAUSE I'M SORRY. YES.

QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR REEVES AND MR. HALL. MY LAST QUESTION ON THIS, I PROMISE. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE PERCENTAGE COMPLETE FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT TODAY? 35%. 35%? YEAH, I WAS AFRAID OF THAT. YES. BECAUSE WHEN I HEARD MR. HALL SAY THAT THE PROJECT. I THINK YOU GUYS GAVE THE CONTRACTOR A NOTICE TO PROCEED LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH. SO IF WE SAY AROUND MARCH TO TODAY, THAT'S SIX MONTHS. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OVERALL PROJECT COMPLETION IN FEBRUARY OF 2026. THAT'S FIVE MONTHS. SO IN SIX MONTHS WE'RE ONLY AT 35% COMPLETE. SO THERE MUST BE A VERY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE TO GET THE REMAINING 65% COMPLETE IN FIVE MONTHS. SO BENCHMARK IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A GREAT PLAN THAT IS REALLY ACTIONABLE AND CAN REALLY WORK TO GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WITH SIX MONTHS IN, SEVEN MONTHS IN, WE'RE ONLY AT 35%. AND IF WE'RE IF WE'RE TODAY SAYING THAT THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETE IN FEBRUARY OF 2026, THAT'S FIVE MONTHS AWAY. SO THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL 65%.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME REAL TIME MANAGEMENT ON THESE CONTRACTORS BECAUSE THE BUSINESSES ARE REALLY SUFFERING. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. SO YOU KNOW, IN CASE THIS IS BEING WATCHED FOR NEXT STEPS, ARE YOU ALL GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND BRING SOMETHING BACK AT THE OCTOBER 6TH COUNCIL MEETING OR THE OCTOBER 30TH WORK SESSION? SHOULD WE EXPECT SOME DISCUSSION AROUND POTENTIAL? WAYS TO ADDRESS FINANCIAL CONCERNS? AND THAT'S A MR. JONES QUESTION. OCTOBER 6TH OCTOBER 30TH WORK SESSION. YOU SAID FINANCIAL CONCERNS. SO THE BUSINESS OWNER TONIGHT IN THE ARTICLE AND ON THE NEWS IS ASKING OH SURE FOR LOST REVENUE

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REPLACEMENT. OKAY. AND CITING TO ATLANTA. BUT THE MONEY DID NOT COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

OH YEAH. RIGHT. NO IT'S THROUGH A TAB WHERE THEY HAD THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANT AND ALL OF THAT.

I GET IT NOW. THANK YOU. YEAH. WORK SESSION WILL BE PROBABLY APPROPRIATE. SO ON OCTOBER 6TH, WORK SESSION, MADAM CITY CLERK MAY MAIN STREET PROJECT. I'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING. I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. WORK SESSION, OCTOBER 13TH. THANK YOU ALL. SO WE HAVE COUNCIL. WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION SUGGESTIONS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WHEN I ARRIVE BY TOMORROW, WHAT TIME WILL THE THE FENCE BE DOWN? I KNOW Y'ALL WILL PUT IT OUT THERE. SEE THAT? SEE, SEE SEE WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIME. OKAY, I'LL BE DOWN THERE NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE OKAY. YES. LOOK, NO, I DON'T NEED YOU TO BE OUT THERE. PEOPLE. JUST GETTING TO WORK AT 9:00, OKAY? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. WE HAVE THIRD PARTIES HERE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION ON. I KNOW, I KNOW, Y'ALL WERE COMING UP. Y'ALL SO PATIENT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. ON MEDICAL BENEFITS. MISS JESSIE WAS HERE BUT HAD TO LEAVE BY 830. AND SO WE ARE WELL BEYOND THAT ON THAT ONE ITEM. AND THEN ON ITEM NUMBER 22, THAT IS THE INSURANCE RENEWAL DISCUSSION. WE ASKED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT CYBER INSURANCE. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE OF OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL HERE TO TALK WITH US ABOUT AN

[XI.6. 2026 Medical Benefits RFP Results, Voluntary Benefits, Employee Contributions & Medicare Advantage]

EXECUTIVE SESSION, LEGAL MATTER. AND SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM SIX PRESENTATIONS.

WE'RE THEN GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 22 ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER DOING A MOTION TO RECESS FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. FOR ONE LEGAL MATTER. IF WE HAVE OTHERS WE'LL GO BACK LATER. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S TWO, TWO LEGAL MATTERS SO THAT WE CAN THEN HANDLE THAT. HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T BE TAKE TOO LONG. WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE MORE PRESENTATIONS AND THEN WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IN A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. SO ITEM NUMBER SIX 2026 MEDICAL BENEFITS, RFP RESULTS, VOLUNTARY BENEFITS, EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS AND MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. MR. JONES YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR. AND YES, YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT. OUR HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR HAD TO CATCH A PLANE. SO SHE SHE LEFT, BUT SHE LEFT ME WITH THESE TWO NAMES. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS HANDLING WHICH, BUT JOHN LUCAS AND CHARLES ATKINS.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M CHARLES ATKINSON, FOUNDER AND MANAGING PRINCIPAL OF ANALYTICS CONSULTING GROUP. ALONG WITH ME IS MY COLLEAGUE JOHN YUHAS. AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME TIME GOING THROUGH THE CITY'S BENEFIT PROGRAM. AND. OKAY, ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, WE WE HAVE SUMMARIZED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BENEFIT PROGRAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING OFFERED, AND WE GIVE YOU THE STATUS OF

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THE RATES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE RATE GUARANTEES, WHETHER THEY'RE THEY WERE UP FOR RENEWAL. BUT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR LIFE AND AND AND INSURANCE. WE HAVE A RATE THAT WAS NEGOTIATED TILL 2026 STD AND LIMITED IS GUARANTEED UNTIL 2026. AT THE END OF 2026 THE DENTAL RENEWED, BUT IT RENEWED WITH THE 0% INCREASE VISION RATE GUARANTEE UNTIL 2026. THE FSA AND COBRA, THOSE RENEWED WITH SLIGHT INCREASES ON THE FSA FROM 360 PER PARTICIPANT PER MONTH TO 380, AND THE COBRA WENT FROM $0.40 TO $0.45 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH. THE VOLUNTARY BENEFITS THROUGH AFLAC. THOSE DID NOT CHANGE. THE RATES REMAIN THE SAME, AND THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE AND THE MEDICAL. WE DID HAVE TO GO TO RFP FOR BOTH OF THOSE COVERAGES AS A RESULT OF RATE INCREASES THAT WE RECEIVED, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I'M SORRY, I. ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A SLIGHT HISTORY OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN 2022. WE MOVED YOU TO HUMANA AND THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS WITH MOVING TO HUMANA. WITH THAT. AS WE LOOK AT THE HISTORY, THERE WAS A AN INCURRED LOSS RATIO OF 96%.

YOU ENDED UP WITH A SURPLUS OF 217,000. AT LEAST THE CARRIER DID IN 2023. THERE WAS A SURPLUS OF $942,000, AGAIN AT AN 84% LOSS RATIO. SO UNDER HUMANA, THE THE PROGRAM PERFORMED REALLY WELL. WELL, AT THE END OF 2023, HUMANA EXITED THE COMMERCIAL GROUP MARKETS.

SO THEY'RE STILL DOING MEDICARE, BUT THEY NO LONGER DO COMMERCIAL GROUP TO EMPLOYERS.

SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE HAD TO CHANGE TO AETNA. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FOR 2024, AETNA REALLY LOST QUITE A BIT. THEY'VE LOST $1.1 MILLION ON THE ACCOUNT. THERE WAS 120% LOSS RATIO AS A RESULT OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM. AND IN 2025 YEAR TO DATE FOR THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS, WE'RE ALREADY AT A $265,000 DEFICIT. SO UNDER AETNA, THE PROGRAM HAS REALLY BEEN RUNNING PRETTY HIGH. AND THIS IS PART OF THE REASON WHY, AS WE HAVE BEEN ANALYZING AND MONITORING THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM, WE SORT OF ANTICIPATED THAT WHEN WE GET THE RENEWAL FOR AETNA FOR 2026, THAT IT MIGHT BE SIGNIFICANT. SO AS A RESULT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RESULTS. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE THE RATES THAT THE THE CLAIM AND PERFORMANCE THAT I JUST DESCRIBED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THIS MAY GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS TO SOME OF THE REASONS WHY IT'S HAPPENING FOR. 2020 FOR FOR 12 MONTHS. SO THIS IS NOT AN ANNUAL YEAR, BUT JUST LOOKING BACK, 12 MONTHS FROM MAY OF LAST YEAR TO APRIL OF THIS YEAR, JUST TAKING A 12 MONTH, 13 CLAIMANTS WITHIN YOUR PROGRAM HAVE GENERATED TWO, $2.5 MILLION. SO THIS IS WHAT'S A A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LARGE CLAIMANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE CONSTANTLY MONITORING THIS AND DOING WHAT WE CAN TO TO MANAGE THE THE VARIOUS CARRIERS AND SOME OF THE THE OUTCOMES ON THE OF THE RENEWALS. HERE AS A RESULT OF THE, THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE MADE AND THEN THE CLAIMS EXPERIENCE THAT WE WE'VE SEEN, WE ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LARGE INCREASE FOR 2026. RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE CURRENTLY ON A RATE GUARANTEE.

SO WHEN WE WENT TO AETNA AT THE BEGINNING OF 2023, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE YOU WERE PROTECTED NOT ONLY FOR 2023, BUT FOR 20, NOT FOR 2024 BUT 2025. SO NOW YOU'RE UNDER A

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RATE GUARANTEE. WE HAD A RATE CAP OF 14.3% FOR JANUARY OF 2025. SO THIS YEAR WHEN WE NEGOTIATED FOR AETNA BACK IN 23 FOR THE BEGINNING OF 24, WE MADE SURE THAT THE SECOND YEAR YOU HAD A CAP, THAT IT COULD NOT GO ANY MORE THAN 14.3%, AND THAT'S WHAT WE RECEIVED WITH THAT. AND AS A RESULT OF THEM LOSING $1.1 MILLION IN 2023. 24. SO THE MAGNITUDE OF THE LARGE CLAIMS WE'VE SHOWN IS WHAT'S CONTRIBUTED TO IT. WE WE ANTICIPATED THE INCREASE FROM AETNA, AND AS A RESULT, WE WENT TO THE MARKET AND WE WENT TO THE FOUR CARRIERS YOU SEE HERE.

AETNA THE INCUMBENT ANTHEM CIGNA AND UNITEDHEALTHCARE. IN THAT EVALUATION WE LOOKED AT THE NETWORK ACCESS AND PROVIDER DISRUPTION. AND IF YOU IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH NETWORK ACCESS BASICALLY BY THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING HERE WE TAKE YOUR POPULATIONS RESIDENT ZIP CODES AND WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE CARRIERS. THE CARRIERS COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT PERCENTAGE MEET THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED HERE TO PROVIDERS WITHIN TEN MILES TO OB-GYNS WITHIN TEN, AND SO ON. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IN IN PRACTICALLY EVERY CASE, THERE'S SOME THERE'S 98% OR GREATER ACCESS. SO ANY A MOVEMENT FROM ONE CARRIER TO ANOTHER REALLY IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE OVERALL ACCESS THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES WOULD EXPERIENCE. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS DISRUPTION. WE LOOKED AT DISRUPTION. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T MOVE FROM ONE NETWORK TO ANOTHER NETWORK, WHERE THE PROVIDERS THAT YOUR PARTICIPANTS ARE USING WOULD NOT BE IN THE NEW NETWORKS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CHART, THEY ALL HAVE 98% OR BETTER DISRUPTION WHERE THEY WOULD NOT BE ANY DISRUPTION. THOSE PROVIDERS ARE IN THE NETWORK.

THE THE TOTALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YOUR 2025 COST, WE'VE PROJECTED TO BE 7.4 MILLION, $7.3 MILLION. THE WE GOT THE INCREASE FROM AETNA AND IT WAS 38.5% AS. SO FORTUNATELY, WE DID GO OUT TO BID TO SEE WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE. EACH OF THE OTHER CARRIERS, AS YOU CAN SEE, CAME IN RIGHT AROUND 25%. ANTHEM WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT THEY ALL CAME RIGHT, RIGHT IN THE SAME AREA. SO IT TELLS US THAT THE UNDERWRITING IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. AETNA WAS LOOKING TO RECOVER SOME OF THE LOSSES, WHICH IS WHY THE NUMBERS FOR AETNA ARE WHERE THEY ARE. THIS PARTICULAR ILLUSTRATION SHOWS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED. AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT YOU IN A POSITION THAT IS COMPARABLE TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY. WE WANTED EACH OF THE CARRIERS TO TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE WILLING TO GUARANTEE THEIR RATES FOR, FOR ANOTHER YEAR, SO WE WANTED RATES FOR 2026, BUT WE ALSO WANTED THEM TO GUARANTEE THE RATES FOR 2027, OR AT LEAST GIVE US A CAP FOR 2027. MEDICAL CARRIERS ARE VERY RELUCTANT TO GIVE YOU THIS, ALMOST NEVER TO GIVE YOU A, A, A GUARANTEED RATE, BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE YOU A RATE CAP TO SAY WHERE YOUR INCREASE WILL BE NO HIGHER THAN X. SO WE ASKED THAT OF EACH OF THE CARRIERS, AETNA SAID NO, WE WOULD NOT GUARANTEE 27 AT ALL. WE WON'T GIVE YOU ANY CAP.

UNITED HEALTHCARE SAID THE SAME THING. NO, NO CAP. BUT CIGNA AND ANTHEM DID AGREE TO RATE CAPS. AND THOSE RATE CAPS ARE TIED TO THE LOSS RATIOS. THEY BASICALLY PREMIUM TO CLAIMS. SO THE RATIOS AS WE'LL WE'LL SHOW A LITTLE BIT LATER ARE HOW THEY WILL CAP YOUR OVERALL COSTS IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. NOW WHEN WE LOOK ALSO ASKED ABOUT VARIOUS ALLOWANCES AND ALL THREE AETNA,

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CIGNA AND ANTHEM AGREED TO PROVIDE SOME ANNUAL ALLOWANCES FOR YOU TO UTILIZE FOR YOUR PROGRAM FOR MARKETING OR WELLNESS OR VARIOUS AREAS. UNITEDHEALTHCARE BASICALLY SAID THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS, BUT THEY DID NOT COMMIT TO ANYTHING. THEN WE WENT BACK TO BEST AND FINAL OFFERS. WE ASKED ANTHEM AND AND CIGNA TO SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS. CAN THEY DO ANY BETTER? ANTHEM CAME DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THEY ALSO OFFERED A FIRST YEAR PREMIUM CREDIT OF $150,000. BUT THEIR FIRST YEAR CAP WILL NOT. THE CAP, BUT THE FIRST YEAR INCREASE WAS 21.9%. CIGNA'S INCREASE WAS 23.4%. THE THE TWO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THEY BOTH HAD LOSS RATIO, MAXIMUM LOSS RATIO AGREEMENTS OR OFFERS. AND WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT HERE THEY ALSO OFFERED ALLOWANCES SO THAT THEY WERE THEY'RE COMPARABLE IN THAT AREA. THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE SHOWS THE THE VARIOUS RATES. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS HERE. BUT AT LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM LINE AETNA IS SHOWING FOR YOUR CURRENT COST FOR AETNA IS 7.3 MILLION FOR 2026. YOU'RE RIGHT AT AT JUST UNDER 10 MILLION CIGNA YOU'RE AT 9 MILLION. AND THEN FOR ANTHEM YOU'RE ALSO AT AROUND NINE. 9 MILLION. BUT THEY'LL GO BACK TO ONE SECOND. YEAH NO PROBLEM. BUT AS YOU CAN YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ONE TIME CREDIT THAT'S BEING OFFERED BY ANTHEM, YOU APPLY THAT TO THE THE NINE, ALMOST 9.1 MILLION. AND BASICALLY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $100,000 BETWEEN CIGNA AND ANTHEM FOR YEAR ONE. AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE AS WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS FOR BOTH YEARS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET A BETTER IDEA OF OF THE EACH OF THE PROPOSALS. THIS CHART IS A LITTLE COMPLEX, BUT BASICALLY IT'S GIVING YOU THE, THE LOSS RATIO. SO IF IF THE LOSS RATIO, IF YOUR, YOUR YOUR CLAIMS OVER YOUR PREMIUMS ARE LESS THAN 70%, EACH OF THEM SAID THAT THEY WON'T BE ANY INCREASE. AND AS YOU LOOK DOWN THE TABLE, ONCE YOU GET TO ABOUT 90 TO 90, BETWEEN 90 AND 95% SICKNESS SAYS THAT YOUR INCREASE WOULD NOT BE ANY MORE THAN 10% OR 9.9%, ANTHEM SAID. YOUR INCREASE WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 20%. NOW, IF YOUR EXPERIENCE LOOKS LIKE IT DOES. TODAY. UNDER ANTHEM, THERE WOULD BE NO MAXIMUM FOR YOU IN 2027. UNDER CIGNA, YOU WOULD PAY NO MORE, AN INCREASE OF NO MORE THAN 20%.

SO THAT WAS THE CAP THAT WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH CIGNA, THE CAP WITH ANTHEM IS IS HIGHER FOR THE UNDER THE LOWER RANGES, BUT THERE'S NO MAXIMUM ONCE YOU GET ABOVE 95%.

SO BASED ON ON THE ABOVE WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY, WHICH IS THE THE GREEN CIRCLE. IT WOULD BE IT UNDER AETNA. YOU YOU'D PAY ANOTHER $2.5 MILLION UNDER CIGNA, 1.6 UNDER ANTHEM. IT'S 1.7, BUT IT'S LESS THAN 150,000. SO IT WON'T BE FULLY 1.7. IT'LL BE SOMEWHERE PRETTY CLOSE TO ABOUT $100,000 MORE THAN, I MEAN, LESS THAN WHERE CIGNA IS.

THIS PARTICULAR CHART IS IS A VERY BUSY CHART. BUT BASICALLY HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WAS THE OVERALL COST TO THE TO THE CITY. HERE WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE PAYING OUT OF POCKET. THE THERE'S THREE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

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THE FIRST ALTERNATIVE IS THAT THE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEE SHARE THE CONTRIBUTION INCREASE EQUALLY. SO ASSUMING YOU WENT WITH CIGNA, THE 23.4% WOULD APPLY TO THE CITY'S COST AND IT WOULD APPLY TO THE EMPLOYEES COSTS. AND WHAT'S IN THE COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION. THAT WOULD BE THE NEW EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS ON A ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THESE ARE ALL MONTHLY. EXCUSE ME RATES. OH YES. THEY THEY'RE USING THE CIGNA RATES HERE AS WELL.

ALTERNATIVE TWO IS 16%. WE'RE TARGETING 16% A COST SHARE, NOT A 16% INCREASE BUT A 16% COST SHARE. WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY PAYING IS THE EMPLOYEE IS PAYING 14% OF THE COST. THE CITY IS PAYING 86% OF THE COST. SO IF WE BASICALLY MOVE THE EMPLOYEE TO 16% OF THE COST AND THE CITY DOWN TO 84% OF THE COST, THE THE RATES THAT YOU SEE UNDER EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS ARE WHAT THEY WOULD BE PAYING ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND THEN THE LAST ALTERNATIVE, THREE, IS BASED ON MARKET ALIGNMENT. WHAT WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT SURVEY DATA.

WE LOOKED AT SOME LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS PERCENTAGES THAT THEY'RE USING. AND THOSE TOTALS ON AVERAGE CAME TO AROUND 17% FOR THE EMPLOYEE PORTION AND 83% FOR THE CITY PORTION. SO IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT KIND OF A BREAKDOWN, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT WOULD BE THE THE RATES FOR THAT. SO I GUESS THE FIRST THING FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE TWO DECISIONS YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE. AND AT WHATEVER POINT YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE THEM, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE RENEWAL DECISION AS TO WHICH CARRIER YOU WOULD YOU WOULD WANT TO GO WITH. AETNA AS THE INCUMBENT, AS WE MENTIONED, IS AN EXTRA $2.5 MILLION. CIGNA, WHICH WAS ABOUT 2.6. AND AETNA WAS ALSO WAS ABOUT TWO POINT I MEAN I'M SORRY, NOT 2.61.6. AETNA WAS JUST UNDER THEM ABOUT LESS THAN $100,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR. SECOND YEAR CIGNA GAVE YOU A CAP OF 20%. ANTHEM. BASICALLY THERE WAS NO MAXIMUM.

ONCE YOU GOT ABOVE 95% LOSS RATIO. THE SECOND CONTRIBUTION, THE SECOND DECISION WOULD BE IN THE AREA OF EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS, EITHER TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS AT 14% VERSUS AN 86%, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THE EMPLOYEES WOULD ABSORB THE SAME PERCENTAGE INCREASE THAT THE CITY WOULD. THE OTHER WOULD BE INCREASING EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS TO 16% OR TO 17% TO COME MORE ALIGNMENT WITH THE MARKET DATA THAT WE RECEIVED. YOU. AND THANK YOU. THIS IS JOHN YUHAS. I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE ONE POINT THAT CHARLES MADE WAS THAT SECOND YEAR MEDICAL RATE CAP. THAT'S REALLY CRUCIAL, AS YOU MENTIONED. AND AGAIN, TO EMPHASIZE THAT MOST CARRIERS DON'T LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY SECOND YEAR GUARANTEE ON MEDICAL BECAUSE IT IS SO VOLATILE. YOU'VE GOT AN AGING WORKFORCE, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF CHRONIC CONDITIONS HERE, AND WE'VE SEEN A SPIKE IN IT. AND YOU'VE SEEN THE HEADLINES IN THE NEWS. ALL EMPLOYERS ARE FACING THIS. YOU AREN'T ALONE. YOU AREN'T ISOLATED. BUT IT'S A BIG DEAL TO TRY TO GET THAT SECOND YEAR. SO THAT'S THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.

THE INFORMATION I'M GOING TO COVER HERE IS MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. WE HAD A RENEWAL INCREASE FROM AETNA. THE CITY HAS BEEN WITH AETNA FOR MANY YEARS OVER TEN YEARS NOW. AND THE INCREASE FOR 2026 IS A COST OF $55 PER PARTICIPANT PER MONTH. THIS IS DUE IN PART TO CLAIMS EXPERIENCE WHICH IS POOLED MEDICARE ADVANTAGE OR LARGE POOLS OF EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS THE CENTER FOR MEDICAID SERVICES, WHICH HAD SOME MAJOR ADJUSTMENTS LAST YEAR. COST SHIFTING FROM TO THE TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR INSURANCE PLANS, PART OF THE DEFICIT REDUCTIONS AND THINGS THEY WERE DOING INTERNALLY. SO JUST TO TO LET YOU KNOW, AS A AS A RECAP, THE

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CITY'S CONTRIBUTION IS CURRENTLY ABOUT 66% OF MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PREMIUM. AND YOU CAN SEE THE ANNUAL COST OF 354,000. THE RETIREES CONTRIBUTE ABOUT 34% OF THAT PREMIUM COST. THE.

THERE'S A GROUP OF SPLIT DEPENDENTS AND SURVIVING SPOUSES THAT CONTRIBUTE HIGHER.

SO IN THE MIDDLE IN THE CHART, THE AETNA CURRENT RATE IS $304. THE TOTAL RATE MONTHLY RATE PER PARTICIPANT. THE 2026 RENEWAL IS THE 359. WE WENT TO THE MARKET. ANTHEM QUOTED A PRICE OF $281, MUCH LOWER IN CIGNA, $399 MUCH HIGHER. WE ALSO APPROACHED A COUPLE OF OTHER CARRIERS WHO DECLINED TO QUOTE, JUST FOR VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT THESE WERE GOOD QUOTES THAT GAVE US A GOOD PERSPECTIVE ON THE MARKET. ALL OF THE PLANS OFFERED ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE CURRENT PLAN. THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCES WOULD BE IN THE DRUG PHARMACY FORMULAS, WHICH VARY BETWEEN CARRIERS JUST DUE TO CONTRACTING. BUT ESSENTIALLY ALL PLANS OFFER SIMILAR BENEFITS. SO THERE'S REALLY FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE CITY CAN CONTRIBUTE THE SAME THAT THEY ARE NOW. IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR COST WOULD NOT GO UP. YOU COULD STAY WITH AETNA, THE CURRENT PROVIDER, AND THE COST INCREASE WOULD BE $55 TO THE PARTICIPANT IN THE PLAN TO THE RETIREES. OPTION TWO WOULD BE TO SWITCH TO ANTHEM. THE CITY COULD KEEP THE CONTRIBUTIONS RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE NOW. THE 355,000 AND THE COST TO THE PARTICIPANT WOULD ACTUALLY GO DOWN BY $2,023, ROUGHLY BECAUSE OF THE LOWER COST FROM ANTHEM. OPTION THREE WOULD BE A SWITCH TO ANTHEM, KEEPING THE RETIREE CONTRIBUTIONS THE SAME, AND THE CITY WOULD SAVE $40,000. SO THE RETIREES WOULD CONTINUE TO PAY WHAT THEY'RE PAYING. NOW.

THEY'D BE WITH A DIFFERENT CARRIER AND THE CITY WOULD ACTUALLY SAVE SOME MONEY.

OPTION FOUR, HOWEVER, IS REALLY THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THIS IS BASED ON SOME THINGS I'LL COVER ON THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT THIS IS WHERE BOTH THE CITY AND THE PARTICIPANTS ABSORB THE 18% INCREASE EQUALLY. SO THE CITY'S ANNUAL COST WOULD INCREASE BY 6364, EXCUSE ME, 64,000 ANNUALLY AND THE RETIREE COST ON A MONTHLY BASIS WOULD INCREASE BY $18.33. OBVIOUSLY, FOR RETIREES, YOU HAVE A FIXED BUDGET, DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT DYNAMIC LIFESTYLE, ETC. SO YOU WANT TO KEEP ANY INCREASES MANAGEABLE FOR THOSE FOLKS. THIS PAGE REALLY IS JUST A QUICK HIGHLIGHT. AND THIS IS THE LAST PAGE I KNOW THIS STUFF IS IS LENGTHY AT THIS HOUR OF THE NIGHT, BUT PROS AND CONS AND PROBABLY THE TOP TWO ARE THE BIGGEST. STAYING WITH AETNA IS LESS DISRUPTIVE. THAT'S WHAT THE RETIREES THOSE PARTICIPANTS KNOW. IT'S A HIGHER COST. BUT YOU'LL YOU'LL GET A LOT OF NOISE WHEN YOU MOVE PLANS PARTICULARLY WITH THE RETIREE POPULATION. THE LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WITH THAT IS EXTREMELY HIGH. I WISH I WAS IRIS WAS HERE. THEY CONSTANTLY GET COMPLIMENTS FROM THE RETIREES ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LIKE THEIR AETNA PROGRAM. SO THOSE TWO THINGS NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. SWITCHING TO AETNA.

HOWEVER, ANTHEM, HOWEVER, WILL SAVE MONEY TO BOTH THE CITY AND OR THE PARTICIPANTS, DEPENDING ON WHICH OPTION YOU LOOK AT. SO THERE IS A COST SAVINGS WITH AETNA ANTHEM. SORRY, THE PROVIDER CHANGE IF YOU CHANGE PROVIDERS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NEW IMPLEMENTATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS AND ENROLLMENT AND THAT ALL HAS TO BE DONE IN VERY SHORT ORDER BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME TIMELINES COMING UP FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT COMMUNICATIONS AND THE NATIONAL MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. THE PLANS ALL OFFER SIMILAR BENEFITS. THE FORMULARIES VARY, AS I MENTIONED, JUST SLIGHTLY, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF NOTABLE ENHANCEMENTS THERE. WITH THE ANTHEM PROGRAM AROUND, OBSERVATION ROOM CHARGES, SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THERE FOR THE OVERNIGHT STAY, ETC. ON HOW THAT'S BILLED MORE FAVORABLE TO ANTHEM AND THEN THE HEARING AID BENEFIT, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY GREATER WITH ANTHEM AS WELL. SO AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE GROUP MEDICAL PROGRAM, THE DECISIONS TO THE COUNCIL WILL BE AROUND THE TWO PROVIDERS STAYING WITH THE INCUMBENT SLIGHTLY HIGHER COST OR ANTHEM AT A LOWER COST. BUT DIFFERENCES AND AGAIN SOME NOISE TO THAT TYPE OF MOVEMENT. AND THEN THE THREE DIFFERENT PARTICIPATION CONTRIBUTION OPTIONS, KEEPING THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION AS IS. OR THE CITY COULD ABSORB THE FULL COST IF

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THEY PREFERRED TO. OR THE THIRD OPTION, WHICH IS THE ONE WE RECOMMEND THE CITY AND THE PARTICIPANTS COST BOTH GO UP IN EQUAL AMOUNT 18%. THAT'S THE INCREASE. THAT'S THAT'S THE END OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT'S ALWAYS A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND GENERALLY WHEN YOU ALL COME TO US, IT'S ALWAYS CLOSE TO THE TIME FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT. I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME WITH THESE NUMBERS OR WITH THIS INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION. THAT'S THE FIRST THING. LIKE GENERALLY ANNUALLY, I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE WHEN IT COMES, WE GOTTA GET IT OUT BEFORE OPEN ENROLLMENT. OPEN ENROLLMENT IS IN OCTOBER GENERALLY, AND WE'RE IN MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. AND YOU ALL JUST SHARED A WHOLE LOT. I ALSO, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2014 TAKING OFFICE, I'VE BEEN ON KAISER, I'VE BEEN ON CIGNA, I'VE BEEN ON HUMANA, I'VE BEEN ON AETNA. I FEEL LIKE WE CHANGE LIKE EVERY YEAR. AND I KNOW THE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE FINANCIALLY. I MEAN, STAYING WITH AETNA IS LIKE $2.6 MILLION. LIKE WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM. BUT LIKE I LITERALLY FEEL LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR I'M GETTING A NEW INSURANCE CARD. I THINK THE ONE THAT WE STAYED ON THE LONGEST MAY HAVE BEEN KAISER. AND THEN WE DECIDED TO GO TO THE TRADITIONAL MARKET. BUT THIS CONSTANT CHANGING EVERY YEAR OF INSURANCE PROVIDERS, I CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT'S LIKE ON OUR EMPLOYEES. YOU KNOW, WHILE, YES, A LOT OF TIMES THE MAJORITY OF PROVIDERS ARE COVERED, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE NOT. IT REQUIRES THEM TO CHANGE THEIR COVERAGE OR PAY MORE MONEY. AND SO. THE SLIDE THAT YOU SHARED THAT SHOWED WHAT THE EMPLOYEES CONTRIBUTIONS WOULD BE ON THE ALTERNATIVE ONE, TWO AND THREE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE RIGHT NEXT TO IT WHAT THEY CURRENTLY PAY, BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO SEE UNLESS I PROBABLY GO BACK IN DIFFERENT SLIDES, WHAT THAT IMPACT IS RIGHT AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND SO I KNOW THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME. WHEN DO YOU ALL NEED THIS DECISION? AND THAT'S SLIGHTLY RHETORICAL BECAUSE OPEN ENROLLMENT STARTS IN WHAT PART OF OCTOBER. WELL MEDICARE ADVANTAGE THAT ENROLLMENT NATIONALLY IS THE 15TH, OCTOBER 15TH. AND EASTPOINTE OPEN ENROLLMENT. WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME ON THAT ONE. I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE. COUNCIL MEMBER FREHLEY AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. I JUST WAS CONFUSED BY SOMETHING. I THINK IT WAS ON THE THIRD TO THE LAST SLIDE. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THAT. OH, NO. GO FORWARD. OH. I'M SORRY. THERE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE AGAIN BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND OPTION THREE? I, I MISSED WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS ASIDE FROM WHAT'S OBVIOUSLY YEAH THIS IS FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. SO OPTION TWO WOULD KEEP THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTIONS THE SAME. SO IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE CURRENTLY PAYING ROUGHLY 355,000 ANNUALLY. SO IT WOULD KEEP THOSE COSTS THE SAME. BUT BECAUSE OF ANTHEM'S LOWER RATE, OPTION TWO WOULD LOWER THE PARTICIPANT'S PREMIUM BY APPROXIMATELY $23 A MONTH.

OPTION THREE IS KEEPING THE RETIREE CONTRIBUTIONS THE SAME. SO IN OTHER WORDS, DON'T SWITCHING TO ANTHEM ANTHEM BEING AT A LOWER COST SO THE RETIREE CONTRIBUTIONS DON'T CHANGE FROM WHERE THEY ARE NOW, AND THAT ADDITIONAL SAVINGS WOULD GO TO THE CITY, WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO THE 40,000 ANNUALLY. OKAY, SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RETIREES AND CURRENT EMPLOYEES. IS THAT, WELL, I'M SORRY, THIS IS STRICTLY FOR THE RETIREES. THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE MISSING THE DIFFERENCE. WELL, THE THE ANTHEM IS A LOWER PREMIUM. SO IN OPTION TWO YOU'RE LOWERING THE EMPLOYEE PREMIUM. THE PARTICIPANT PREMIUM. EXCUSE ME, AN OPTION THREE INSTEAD OF LOWERING THE PARTICIPANT PREMIUM, YOU'RE LOWERING EASTPOINTE'S PREMIUM. SO EASTPOINTE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE COST SAVINGS BY SWITCHING TO ANTHEM VERSUS GIVING THOSE COST SAVINGS TO THE PARTICIPANT IN OPTION TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. THANK YOU. AND THIS QUESTION IS DIRECTED TO THE CITY MANAGER. SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE WERE TO GO WITH OPTION FOUR, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION, DO WE HAVE THE

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63,824 BUDGETED. I WON'T SAY THAT WE HAVE IT BUDGETED, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO PAY FOR IT. SO IT IT MAY RESULT IN TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM RESERVES, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. SO I SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WE WOULD TAKE IT FROM RESERVES. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD. THAT'S THAT'S ONE OPTION. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD ONE. BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S ALSO OPTIONS OF OF SALARY SAVINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT GET A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOOK AT TO. BUT RESERVES IS THE CLEANEST VERSION TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. HERE'S MY QUESTION. WHAT WOULD BE THE SO IF THEY WENT WITH ANTHEM, IT WOULD REDUCE THE COST FOR THE CITY. CORRECT. AND THE AND THE RETIREES. YOU COULD GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. YES. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION BECAUSE YOU SAID KEEP OPTION FOUR. WHAT WOULD BE I GUESS, THERE OUT OF POCKET COSTS OR WOULD IF THEY WENT, IF WE WENT, LET'S JUST SAY IF WE WENT WITH OPTION TWO OR OPTION THREE WITH THE COST FOR THE DOCTOR VISIT GO UP, WOULD IT REMAIN THE SAME? NO. THE THE PLANS PROVIDE I WON'T SAY IDENTICAL BUT ALMOST IDENTICAL. VERY SIMILAR BENEFITS. SO THEY WERE QUOTED THAT WAY. SO THERE'D BE NO TAKE AWAYS FROM ONE CARRIER OR THE OTHER. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME TYPE OF COVERAGE. SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING IN ANTHEM. IS BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. JUST ONE OTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE THE THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE RATES AND THE THE RATES THAT CARRIERS USE TO PRICE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE COME IN VERY LATE IN THE YEAR. SO CARRIERS WILL NOT RELEASE RENEWAL RATES UNTIL THE CENTERS FOR MEDICARE SERVICES PUBLISH THOSE RATES. AND THEY CAN THEN DO THEIR ACTUARIAL COMPUTATIONS AND SUCH ON THEIR BLOCKS OF BUSINESS. AS MUCH AS WE'D LOVE TO DELIVER THESE THINGS AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS SECOND, SECOND QUARTER, WE CAN'T. SO IT IS KIND OF TO THE LAST WIRE TO THE LAST MINUTE. AND THE SAME IS TRUE WITH THE MEDICAL PLAN. A LOT OF TIMES, AS CHARLES CAN SPEAK TO BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT THE UNDERWRITING PROCESS INVOLVES CLAIMS DATA AND THESE CARRIERS PAID VERSUS INCURRED AND HOW IT'S REPORTED. DON'T REPORT IT TILL LATE IN THE YEAR.

SO WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE OF GETTING RENEWALS AND THEN BEING ABLE TO NEGOTIATE. WE DO KEEP THE THE HR FOLKS IRIS UP TO DATE. WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE THE MANAGEMENT PEOPLE AS BEST WE CAN ON THIS. AND WE DO PROVIDE QUARTERLY DASHBOARDS WITH UPDATES AND REPORTS AND SUCH. SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. WE UNDERSTAND. AND IT IS AND WE SHARE THE THE PAIN AND YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT MOVING CARRIERS. WE HATE TO MOVE IT. IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR US. IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR THE CITY WITH THE TECHNICAL STUFF THAT GOES ALONG AND IT'S PAINFUL TO PARTICIPANT. SO WE DO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN, PARTICULARLY BY NEGOTIATING VERY HARD WITH THE INCUMBENT CARRIERS, YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT AS CHARLES MENTIONED, AETNA HAD DUG THEMSELVES INTO A EXCUSE ME, A HOLE. AND AND THEY JUST SAID NO. SO IT'S BEEN A TOUGH YEAR FOR ALL EMPLOYERS. SO AND HERE'S MY LAST QUESTION ON ONE PAGE I SAW IT. MAYBE IT'S THE NEXT SLIDE WHERE IT HAD RIGHT HERE. SO ANTHEM HEARING AID BENEFITS IS $1,000 VERSUS AETNA 600. SO THEN THERE THERE IS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE. YES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AN ENHANCEMENT. THAT'S WHY THAT'S LABELED ANTHEM FOR NOTABLE ENHANCEMENTS BECAUSE THEY DID OFFER TWO ENHANCED BENEFITS OVER WHAT YOU HAVE NOW. SO WE DIDN'T. AGAIN WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY APPLES TO APPLES SO WE COULD HAVE FAIR PRICING. BUT THOSE WERE TWO INHERENT FEATURES IN THEIR PROGRAM. BUT AGAIN, I THE ONLY REASON WE'RE REALLY AN AIR AGREED WITH US TO LEAN TO AETNA IS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO. THAT'S ALL. SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMENS THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND JUST TO KIND OF ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT THE MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU THEY GO TO DIFFERENT CARRIERS. SHE'S WITH KAISER AETNA. SO THE CITY THEY JUST HAVE THE ONE CARRIER WHICH IS WHAT IS IT. AETNA RIGHT NOW. NOW. SO AND I'LL

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JUST SAY JUST MY INSURANCE COMES FROM THE CITY OF ATLANTA. IS THERE ANY SORT OF OPTION WHERE YOU BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE THEY BECOME COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR DOCTORS THAT THEY HAVE.

AND YOU JUST KEEP GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF GETTING A NEW DOCTOR EVERY TIME, EVERY SO MANY YEARS. IS THERE SOME SORT OF OPTION THAT THEY HAVE THAT YOU HAVE LIKE KAISER, CIGNA, ANTHEM, AND THE EMPLOYEES ARE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE THAT CARRY? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT OPTION IS HERE WITH THE CITY OR JUST HOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS LIKE THE DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE CITY WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE. BUT I JUST KNOW IN ATLANTA WE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CARRIERS ARE LISTED AND THE EMPLOYEE, THEY JUST THEY THEY'LL SPELL IT OUT WHAT IT IS. AND THEN FROM THERE YOU'RE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHICH CARRIER YOU'D LIKE. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER? I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD YOU COULD DO THE THE ISSUE WOULD BE JUST GIVEN YOUR SIZE AS COMPARED TO LIKE THE CITY OF ATLANTA. I JUST I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AN OPTION, BUT BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS YOU WILL YOU'LL SPLIT THE THE POPULATION AND DEPENDING ON THE DIFFERENTIALS WITHIN THE, THE, THE PLANS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE PLAN THAT MIGHT ATTRACT THE BETTER RISK THAN THE OTHER. SO THOSE THAT TAKE THAT RISK, THAT PLAN MAY FOR A YEAR, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET HIT PRETTY HARD IN THAT SITUATION. SO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO IS WE WOULD KEEP YOU WITH THE SAME CARRIER SO THAT THEY COULD MIX YOUR OVERALL RISK WITH ONE CARRIER, BUT OFFER DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PLANS. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE AN 80% PLAN AND AN 85% PLAN, SO THAT YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES DO HAVE AN OPTION TO TAKE A RICHER PLAN VERSUS A LESS RICHER PLAN. BUT WHEN YOU START SPLITTING THE CARRIERS AND BECAUSE YOU'RE FULLY INSURED, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SPLIT THE RISK. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS AN OPTION.

I KNOW THE CITY IS IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT THAN ATLANTA, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION TO KIND OF DO AWAY WITH HAVING A CHANGE. YOU KNOW, YOUR MEDICAL, YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY, YOUR INSURANCE CARRIER, YOU KNOW, EVERY 2 TO 3 YEARS OR SO. OKAY, RIGHT. WHAT WE BRING TO YOU EACH YEAR ARE THE VARIOUS OPTIONS. WHEN WE FIRST CAME ON BOARD, YOU DID HAVE KAISER. KAISER WAS NOT A VERY GOOD FIT FOR THE CITY. AND WHAT WE DID AFTER WE CAME IN, WE MOVED YOU TO CIGNA. CIGNA. THEIR PLAN WAS A IT WAS A NARROW NETWORK PLAN. AND SO THERE WERE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE EMPLOYEES THAT IT WAS USING A PIEDMONT NETWORK, WHICH WASN'T PREVALENT HERE IN EASTPOINTE. SO EVENTUALLY WE THAT'S WHEN WE MOVED FROM CIGNA TO HUMANA. THEN HUMANA WAS A VERY GOOD FIT BECAUSE IT WAS A BROAD NETWORK. IT WAS MANAGED WELL. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RESULTS, IT WAS IT IT WAS PROFITABLE AND YOUR RATES WERE STABLE. AND THEN COMES AETNA. AND THEN NOW EACH EACH TIME WE GIVE YOU THE OPTIONS WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. BUT IT'S UP TO THE CITY TO DECIDE WHICH DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO.

WHICH IS WHY WE PUT THREE OPTIONS. SO IF YOU WANTED DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DISRUPT THE EMPLOYEES. YOU CAN STAY WITH AETNA. BUT WE'RE TELLING YOU WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IN ORDER TO DO SO. SO EVERYTHING YOU COULD KEEP THE STATUS QUO. IT'S JUST GOING TO COST $1 MILLION MORE THAN MOVING. SO IT'S UP TO THE CITY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO ABSORB THAT. EXCUSE ME. TWO POINTS. YOU SAID AETNA IS $2.6 MILLION MORE. WELL, THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN MOVING TO CIGNA AND AETNA IS $1 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHERE THE NUMBER I'M THROWING OUT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN INCREASE. YEAH IT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE EITHER WAY. IT'S JUST $1 MILLION MORE IF YOU GO TO AETNA. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING RIGHT. EXCUSE ME. GO AHEAD. YES JOHN I DIDN'T GET YOUR LAST NAME. YEAH JOHN. SORRY. IT'S JOHN YUHAS. YUHAS. YUHAS. OKAY. MR. YUHAS YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT AETNA HAD DUG THEMSELVES IN A HOLE AND JUST SAID NO IN TERMS OF THERE WAS NO. I'M HAVING A BRAIN FART. THERE WAS AN ASPECT THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THEY HAD JUST WERE YOU REFERENCING THE FACT THAT THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY CLAIMS AND THEY ONLY HAD A CAP OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT, SO THERE WAS

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TREMENDOUS LOSS? AND WAS THAT THE HOLE THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING? I THINK I MIGHT HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO THE SECOND YEAR RATE BECAUSE AETNA JUST FLAT OUT SAID, NO, WE WON'T DO IT. SO THEY BASED ON THE CLAIMS FROM YES. YES OKAY. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT THERE A PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE THERE WERE 13 CLAIMANTS THAT DROVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THAT LOSS.

CORRECT. WAS IT 83% OF THE LOSS OR SO. SORRY. YEAH 33. YEAH. 3,333% OF THAT LOSS. SO WOULD SOME OF THIS BE MITIGATED THROUGH A ROBUST WELLNESS PROGRAM? THE THE CITY DOES A LOT RIGHT NOW. SO WE REALLY EXHAUST ALL THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CARRIERS. SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO NEGOTIATE SUBSIDIES FROM THE VENDORS FOR THE WELLNESS PROGRAMS. SO MOST OF THESE CONDITIONS AREN'T CONDITIONS THAT WOULD REALLY BE CORRECTED BY A WELLNESS PLAN.

THESE ARE SITUATIONS THAT KIND OF THE HORSES LEFT THE BARN, SO TO SPEAK. THEY'RE CHRONIC TYPE CONDITIONS. THE WELLNESS IS INTENDED TO GET AT SOME OF THESE EARLY ON TO IDENTIFY THE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE HYPERTENSION, THINGS LIKE THAT, TO TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. BUT YOU DO HAVE AN OLDER WORKFORCE, AND YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF THESE INHERENT HEALTH CONDITIONS IN THERE. SO THE WELLNESS PLANS WILL ALWAYS DO SOME GOOD, BUT THEY WON'T CURE SOME OF THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS. AND I THINK THAT YOU ANSWERED. SO THERE IS CURRENTLY A ROBUST YOU SAID THE CITY DOES A LOT. SO THERE IS A ROBUST WELLNESS PROGRAM CURRENTLY UNDER THIS AETNA PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS. YES. AND I KNOW THE HR DEPARTMENT IS IS PUTTING FORTH A FOURTH QUARTER INITIATIVE TO TO USE UP THE REMAINING FUNDS THAT ARE UNDER THAT BUDGET. SO IRIS AND HER HER TEAM THERE ARE PRETTY ON TOP OF THESE THINGS. AND WE COORDINATE WITH THE CARRIERS TO IDENTIFY WHAT PLANS ARE GOING TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK ON THE WELLNESS INITIATIVES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. JONES. YES, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THIS GENTLEMAN TO REMIND ME. I KNOW THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE DISRUPTIVE POSSIBILITIES, BUT ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT YOU SHARED WAS THAT THE DOCTORS WERE SHARED AMONGST THE PLANS THAT AT A 90% RATE. SO COULD YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT? YES, WE DO THE AN ANALYSIS AND ONE IS FOR ACCESS. JUST HOW AVAILABLE ARE THE DOCTORS IN EACH OF THESE CARRIERS NETWORKS? HOW ACCESSIBLE ARE THEY TO YOUR EMPLOYEES. AND WE WE ASK FOR CERTAIN CRITERIA HERE. THAT'S ON THE LEFT, YOU KNOW, TWO PROVIDERS WITHIN TEN MILES TO OBS, WITHIN TEN MILES TO SPECIALISTS IN 15 PEDIATRICIANS AND TEN AND A HOSPITAL WITHIN 15 MILES. SO WITH THAT, THAT TELLS US THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDERS AVAILABLE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE PROVIDERS THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE USING. SO THAT'S WHY WE DO THE DISRUPTION ANALYSIS, WHICH IS THE NEXT ONE BELOW, WHICH TELLS US THE PROVIDERS THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE ACTUALLY USING, AND IT TELLS US HOW MANY OF THESE PROVIDERS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE PROVIDERS ARE IN NETWORK IN EACH OF THESE CARRIERS NETWORKS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOWEST IS AT 98.1%. SO YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE PROVIDERS THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE USING ARE, FOR THE MOST PART IN ALL OF THE NETWORKS. THERE'S A VERY SMALL DISRUPTION, TYPICALLY AROUND LESS THAN 2%. SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OPTION FOR I THINK IT'S THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. IT DOES THAT OPTION FOR ASSUME STAYING WITH AETNA. IT DOESN'T MENTION THE PROVIDER.

BOTH CITIES. YES ABSORBED I APOLOGIZE. OPTION FOUR WOULD BE STAYING WITH AETNA AS WELL AS OPTION ONE. AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEIR THE RETIREES COST INCREASING FROM $18.33 TO $123.43. THE COST INCREASE IS THE $18.33. SO THE RETIREE COST, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UP AT THE TOP $104.60, WOULD GO TO $123.44 A MONTH. THAT'S THE $18.33 INCREASE. OH,

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OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. IT'S A CONFUSING SLIDE. I APOLOGIZE. THERE'S A LOT OF INCREASE. THE RETIREES IS $18.33. SO. MY QUESTION IS I MEAN THE INSURANCE FOR THE EMPLOYEES, THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF NUMBERS AND A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND ALSO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING IT CORRECTLY WHERE YOU GOT 2.6 MILLION FOR AETNA, 1.5 MILLION, 7 MILLION FOR CIGNA. THAT'S WHAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE TO THE CITY. WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH TWO POINT ABOUT $2.6 MILLION TO STAY WITH AETNA.

THAT'S CORRECT. $1.7 MILLION TO GO WITH CIGNA AND $1.7 MILLION TO GO WITH ANTHEM. WHEN YOU ROUND THE NUMBERS UP, THEY'RE BOTH ABOUT $1.7 MILLION. YES, IT WOULD BE. I WAS TAUGHT YOU ROUND UP IF IT'S FIVE OR HIGHER, YOU GO UP TO THE NEXT NUMBER. YES. SO. AND OPEN ENROLLMENT FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE STARTS OCTOBER 15TH. AND SO GO BACK TO THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE SLIDE I THINK IF COUNCIL FEELS COMFORTABLE OR IF WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE SOME OF THIS FORWARD, I DON'T I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE SIDE. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE THE OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD IS LATER IN OCTOBER. GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THE ONE, I'M SORRY, THE ONE THAT SAYS OPTION FOR WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING. I MEAN, DOES THE BASICALLY THE RETIREES WANT TO STAY WITH AETNA. BUT WHAT I NOTICED IF THEY STAY WITH AETNA BASED UPON WHAT YOU SAID, ONE AND TWO, THE HIGH SATISFACTION WITH AETNA, THEN THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GET $600 TOWARDS IT HEARING AIDS VERSUS $1,000. SO THAT'S A $400 DIFFERENCE THERE. AND THE OTHER ENHANCEMENT RIGHT. AND SO ARE YOU ALL SAYING THAT EVEN WITH THOSE ENHANCEMENTS IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO STAY WITH AETNA? BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANTHEM AND AETNA IS AETNA IS $18.33 AND ANTHEM IS $22.73 OR SO. YOU'RE TALKING $5, RIGHT? LIKE SO IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SAY THAT THAT THE RETIREES HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WITH AETNA? YES. WE WE HEAR ALL THE TIME FROM HR THAT THE RETIREES ARE SAYING DON'T TOUCH AETNA. WE LOVE AETNA. DO NOT GET RID OF AETNA. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF THE LEVEL OF SATISFACTION THAT RETIREES HAVE WITH AETNA.

BECAUSE THEY SPECIFICALLY REQUEST NOT MOVING FROM AETNA. WHAT THE WHAT YOU MAY ENCOUNTER THE BENEFITS WITH ANTHEM WILL ARE LIKELY VERY SIMILAR. THERE MAY BE AS AS JOHN SHOWED AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ENHANCEMENTS THAT WOULD BE THERE. BUT I THINK THE BIG POSSIBILITY OF DISRUPTION AND THERE'S NOT A GOOD WAY FOR US TO QUANTIFY IT, IS WITH MEDICARE ADVANTAGE AND WITH RETIREES. THE TWO THINGS THAT REALLY INFLUENCE THEIR SATISFACTION WITH THE PROGRAM ARE WHAT DRUGS ARE ON THE FORMULARY FORMULARIES, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, WHICH PHARMACIES DOES THAT CARRIER ALLOW THEM TO GO TO? SO THOSE TWO THINGS ARE WHAT WILL DISRUPT THE RETIREES SATISFACTION FASTER THAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. SO. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO. SO I WHAT WE WANTED TO TO, TO SHOW YOU IS YOU CAN MOVE TO ANTHEM. THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPARABLE BENEFITS.

BUT THE THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY QUANTIFY ARE WHAT DRUGS EACH OF THE RETIREES ARE TAKING AND WHICH ONES WILL EACH OF THE CARRIERS HAVE ON THEIR FORMULARIES. OKAY. SO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. THIS COUNCIL FEEL PREPARED TO MAKE THE DECISION TONIGHT ON MEDICARE ADVANTAGE ONE. OPEN ENROLLMENT FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE IS ON OCTOBER 15TH.

OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS NOT UNTIL OCTOBER 6TH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO OPEN

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ENROLLMENT TO MAKE THAT DECISION, OR IF THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TIMELY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S POSTAL MAILINGS AND SUCH TO THE RETIREES. SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN, IS JUST HAVING TIME TO PRINT THE MATERIAL, GET IT OUT TO THEM. SO IF YOU COULDN'T MAKE THE DECISION TONIGHT AND ACTUALLY WE WERE NOT EXPECTING YOU TO, IRIS HAD FOREWARNED US THAT TYPICALLY NOT WE WOULD BE AT RISK, BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THINGS DONE. AND IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOT TILL OCTOBER 6TH, WHICH IS NINE DAYS BEFORE OPEN ENROLLMENT. RIGHT. WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY ADVERSELY IMPACT OUR RETIREES. IT COULD. YES. AND WE'RE TALKING POTENTIALLY 40,000 OR 63,000, $64,000. SO DOES COUNCIL FEEL. READY TO MAKE A DECISION ON MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, NOT ASK THOSE QUESTIONS SEPARATELY ABOUT EMPLOYEES. AND THE CITY MANAGER. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON THE 22ND. CERTAINLY WE HAVE THE AGENDA THAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, BUT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD ADD. COUNCIL MEMBER FREE. JUST ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE ANSWER THAT. IN THAT TABLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS SLIDE. SO IF WE SWITCH TO ANTHEM, THE RETIREES ARE SAVING MONEY. RIGHT. AND SO IS IT. IS IT YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO PAY MORE TO STAY WITH THE PLAN, OR WOULD THEY PREFER TO SAVE MONEY. THEY WOULD PREFER TO PAY MORE, BUT I CAN'T QUANTIFY HOW MUCH MORE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY OPTION FOUR IS KIND OF A GOOD COMPROMISE. IT'S AN INCREASE, BUT IT'S PALATABLE VERSUS PUSHING THE WHOLE $55 ON THEM.

IF THE CITY SAID WE CAN'T PAY ANY MORE FROM OUR BUDGET THAN THE $55 TO STAY WITH THAT, AND I WOULD HAVE TO GO ON THE RETIREE. THE MONTHLY COST OPTION FOUR SIMPLY SPLITS IT UP EQUAL EQUAL AMOUNT OR EQUAL PERCENTAGE TO A PARTICIPANT INCREASE IN THE CITY INCREASE.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AGAIN, THEY'RE VERY, VERY ADAMANT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKING IT. AND. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE INCREASE WENT TO THEM ON OPTION FOUR IS ON IS $18.33 NOT 55 18.33. CORRECT. SO DOES COUNCIL FEEL READY TO MAKE THIS DECISION TONIGHT OR DO YOU WANT ON A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON THE 22ND? COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. I DON'T MIND MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT. SO. I DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT. IF THEY GOT TO MAIL IT OUT TO REACH THE RETIREES. THE ONLY REALLY ASCERTAIN IS TO DO A MOTION. I WOULD SAY THAT IF A MOTION IS MADE AND IT DOES NOT PASS, WE HAVE A 60 DAY PERIOD BEFORE ANYTHING CAN COME BACK. AND SO IF THERE IS UNREADINESS, I WOULD PREFER THAT WE PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA VERSUS JEOPARDIZING TOTALLY MISSING THE OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD. FOR FOR MADAM MAYOR, I, I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT, BUT I'LL YIELD TO THE MAJORITY. I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE US DO 60 DAYS, SO I'M UNCLEAR AS TO WHERE I SO SO I'M I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I'M SEPARATING IT. RIGHT. SO MEDICARE ADVANTAGE THAT'S A WE'RE TALKING 64,000 VERSUS MILLIONS RIGHT. 1.7 MILLION OR 2.7 MILLION. THAT'S THE I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT ONE NEXT. BUT TONIGHT BECAUSE OPEN ENROLLMENT STARTS FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE ON OCTOBER 15TH, WE NEED TO MAKE IT TONIGHT. OR WE HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL CALL MEETING AND MAKE IT BECAUSE THEY'LL NEED IT BEFORE OCTOBER 6TH TO BE ABLE TO MAIL TO THE PARTICIPANTS AND DO ALL THE NOTICE STUFF THAT'S NEEDED BEFORE OCTOBER 15TH. COUNCIL MEMBER. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER. YES, I THINK THE DELTA BETWEEN THE 40,000 AND THE 63,000 IS SO MINOR, AND THERE'S A GOOD BIT AT RISK HERE OR AT STAKE. AND HEARING FROM BOTH THE CONSULTANT AND THE MAYOR SAYING THAT THE RETIREES REALLY LIKE AETNA AND THAT COST DIFFERENCE INCREASES. 1833 SO HAVING TO MAIL THOSE THINGS OUT, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, THE COST INCREASE IS SO MINOR. AND THE FACT THAT WE WON'T MEET AGAIN FOR A WHILE THAT DOCUMENTS HAVE TO BE PRINTED UP, ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE ALSO WITH MAKING THAT DECISION AND THEN COMING BACK TO THE EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE

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THEY CAN GET THEIR BOOKLETS FROM THE WORKPLACE, VERSUS THE NEED TO MAIL THE BOOKLETS OUT FOR RETIREES. AND THE DELTA IS JUST SO SMALL. SO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION FOUR FOR THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE RENEWAL. SO MOVED. SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES OKAY. SO THAT TAKE CARE OF THAT.

NOW LET'S GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH 1.7 TO $2.7 MILLION. IT'S A LOT A 2.6. MY BAD. THAT'S A BIG DECISION. WHEN DOES. WHEN DOES OPEN ENROLLMENT START. AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. IF I RECALL. THE QUESTION IS IS I MEAN, I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG COUNCIL, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S READINESS ON THIS ONE TONIGHT.

AND THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT WE PUT ON THE SEPTEMBER 22ND SPECIAL MEETING OR THE OCTOBER 6TH COUNCIL MEETING, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IF WE GO PAST OCTOBER THE 6TH, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT. OCTOBER THE 6TH, SEPTEMBER. CAN I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE HERE FOR A MINUTE ALREADY ON THE ONE THING, MADAM MAYOR, THE OPEN ENROLLMENT DATES ARE SET CURRENTLY FOR OCTOBER 27TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 14TH, SO THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THREE WEEKS IF WE MAKE THE DECISION ON OCTOBER 6TH. OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE THE EMPLOYEES. IF IF WE CAN GO, I CAN'T REMEMBER I THINK IT'S BEFORE THIS ONE. THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS ONE. I'M SORRY. NO I'M LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT THAT ONE. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IN THE COLUMN NEXT TO IT WHAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE CURRENTLY PAYING. OKAY. FOR EACH OF THESE OPTIONS. YES. I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE SAME ALL THE WAY DOWN. RIGHT? RIGHT. YOU WE CAN GIVE YOU A NEW WE CAN GIVE YOU A NEW A NEW CHART WITH THAT ON IT. BUT WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. THOSE SIX NUMBERS ARE. YEAH. I'D BE BETTER IF I CAN. LIKE. THAT'S FINE. WE CAN DO THAT. I MIGHT EVEN MAKE A NOTE. DO SOME BASIC MATH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO OCTOBER 6TH FOR THE. 2026 MEDICAL BENEFITS.

FOR VOLUNTARY BENEFITS AND EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. WE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE AFTER THIS ONE ATTORNEY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I'M JUST TRYING TO CLEAR THEM OUT. I THINK WE MIGHT BE A MINUTE WITH YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS. AND MR. MCGRIFF HAS BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING TONIGHT, AND HE WAS HERE WITH US AT THE WORK SESSION. SO

[XIV.22. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the 2025 - 2026 - Liability and Property & Casualty Insurance Renewals, from McGriff Insurance Services, in the Amount of $2,562,101.20 for the Period of October 1, 2025 to September 30, 2026]

LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER 22. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. THERE WAS A REQUEST TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE CYBER QUOTE, TO SEE IF WE CAN GET AN INCREASE OF THE E CRIME LIMIT, TO SEE IF WE CAN GET AN INCREASE FOR THE E CRIME LIMIT FROM 250,000 TO WHATEVER WE COULD GET IT. TO WHICH I WAS ABLE TO GET IT UP TO 500,000. AND. YEAH, THE THE INCREASE IN PREMIUM. I ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT UP TO JUST ABOUT RIGHT WHERE YOU WERE LAST YEAR IN PREMIUM.

SO IT WAS ABOUT 81,000 AND. $30.60. IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE. THAT'S BASICALLY THE INCREASE WITH JUST THE 500 K IN E CRIME COVERAGE. WHAT THEY DID RECOMMEND THOUGH WAS TO BUY DOWN THE RETENTION FROM 100,000 TO 50,000 FOR AN ADDITIONAL $6,000. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS NUMBER IS. WHICH DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR DECREASE IN THAT RETENTION FROM 100,000 TO 50,000. WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD TRADE OF DOLLARS IN PREMIUM. SO WHAT YOU MEAN WE WE WE WOULD ONLY PAY UP TO 50,000 AND THEY PAY THE REST. YES. VERSUS PAYING 100,000 AND

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THEY PAY THE REST. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND ALSO WHAT I HAD THEM DO AT AFTER HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH WITH THE QUESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLI, I HAD THEM RUN A TEST ON THE SYSTEM JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS WERE. SO THEY DID THAT THIS MORNING AND I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT OUT OF THE PROBABLY 16 OF THESE I'VE DONE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, THIS POINT HAD THE BEST LOOKING ONE. IF YOU LOOK ON THIS PAGE HERE, THE RISK ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, THERE'S USUALLY THREE CATEGORIES THAT THEY KIND OF GROUP THESE THINGS IN. AND THIS IS JUST BASED OFF CITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR IN SIZE. YOUR PEERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE COVERAGE AND THE TYPES OF BREACHES THAT THEY'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. SO WHAT THEY TEST IS FOR VULNERABILITIES WHERE OPEN PORTS, EOL, WHICH IS IN THE LIFE PRODUCTS, THOSE ARE PRODUCTS THAT CAN NO LONGER BE UPDATED OR SUPPORT OR SUPPORTED. SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO SEE THOSE ACTIVE IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY CAN BE BREACHED VERY EASILY. SO YOU GOT NONE OF THOSE. AND THIS IS JUST A SOFT TEST. IT JUST TEST IT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY LOOK AT THE RESULTS AND COMPARE IT AGAINST OTHER CITIES. THERE WERE THREE PORTS THAT WERE NOT THEY WEREN'T OPEN. AND I WOULD SHOW YOU THAT INFORMATION. IT WAS EMAILED OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER. BUT THE REASON I WON'T SHOW IT IN PUBLIC DOMAIN IS BECAUSE IT SHOWED IP ADDRESSES THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE THREE PORTS, SO THAT INFORMATION IS SENT OVER THROUGH MISS JESSIE AND THE HR DEPARTMENT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW. BUT ALL IN ALL, IT WAS A GOOD REPORT. SO BASED ON, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK ON WHETHER OR NOT THESE CARRIERS WERE DECLINING BASED ON THREATS THAT THEY MAY HAVE SEEN OR POTENTIAL, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. THEY JUST COULDN'T GET TO THE PRICE OR THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT THAT CARRIER WAS GIVING US.

SO AND I NOTICED THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER DIDN'T CHANGE. SO INITIALLY IT WAS TWO $2,562,101.20. WHAT SHOULD THE NUMBER BE, 2 MILLION, 2,000,005 2,577,108. MAYBE $0.40 AND $0.40. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT GOING TO GET A MOTION. DID I? SO THE MOTION TO WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE 2025 2026 LIABILITY AND PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE RENEWALS FROM MCGRIFF INSURANCE SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,577,108.40 FOR THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, IS THAT IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR LOOKING INTO THAT AND GETTING THAT INFORMATION FOR US. THANKS,

[XI.3. RightSite Professional Services]

MAYOR. COUNCIL, Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. YOU TOO. AND I REALIZED THAT WE ACTUALLY MOVED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FROM WORK SESSION TO THIS MEETING TO TRY TO GET INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC DURING THE PRESENTATION. SO I DON'T THINK THEY'LL TAKE LONG. WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE MUCH QUESTIONS ON IT. THEY'VE BEEN THEY HAVE SHARED INFORMATION WITH US BEFORE. BUT WE'LL TAKE THIS BRIEF, LAST BRIEF PRESENTATION, AND THEN I'LL ASK COUNCIL FOR A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO LEGAL MATTERS. THANKS, CHIEF. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND DEPUTY CHIEF. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL. WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE BEING FLEXIBLE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT VERY BRIEF I PROMISE. RIGHT SIDE. IS ON. YOU WANT TO JUST DO IT ON YOU JUST DO IT ON ME OKAY. AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SAID I CAN GO TO OCTOBER WORK SESSION. MADAM CITY CLERK. DID YOU GET THAT? MADAM? CITY CLERK, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, OCTOBER WORK SESSION. MADAM MAYOR, WE'RE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH IT, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO OFF THE POWERPOINT. OKAY. CAN WE JUST MAKE SURE THE POWERPOINT IS ONLINE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM? OKAY OKAY OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING. SO I'M CHIEF HILL, I'M THE TECHNICAL SERVICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF

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EASTPOINTE. AND ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CHIEF DALTON, I'LL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION ON RIGHT SIDE. RIGHT SIDE HEALTH SERVICES. IT WAS MENTIONED LAST MONTH THAT WE COME BACK BEFORE YOU ALL AND EXPLAIN HOW WE PLAN ON IMPLEMENTING THIS, THIS SERVICE TO THE CITY AND ALSO HOW WE PLAN TO NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS SERVICE IS IS SO WELL, YOU ALL DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION, I MEAN, THE POWERPOINT. SO I'LL GO OFF PLANNING AND PREPARATION. SO OUR PLAN. FOR RIGHT SITE, WELL I JUST RECOVER RIGHT SIDE.

RIGHT SIDE IS FOR NON-EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. THIS SERVICE IS GOING TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM THE URGENT CARE FACILITIES, DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND ALSO DELIVER MEDICAL PRESCRIPTIONS. WE PLAN TO ROLL OUT RIGHT SIDE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. DURING THIS TIME, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE AND PREPARED TO RUN EMERGENCY INCIDENTS. RIGHT SITE PERSONNEL WILL WORK WITH OUR TRAINING DIVISION AND ENSURE THAT ALL FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL IS PROPERLY TRAINED ON THE USE OF THIS SYSTEM. TO ENSURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE PROPERLY NOTIFIED. WE PLAN ON GETTING GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS. THE FIRST BEING THROUGH THE UTILITY BILLS IN PREVIOUS PRE PREVIOUS INSTANCES WHEN WE WANTED TO GET NOTIFICATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, WE'VE PLACED NOTIFICATION THROUGH THE ELECTRIC BILLS AND WE FOUND SUCCESS IN NOTIFYING THE PUBLIC THAT WAY. WE ALSO PLAN TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY MEETINGS. EACH MONTH. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMMAND STAFF DO GO OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND AT THAT TIME, WE PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT CAN THEY LOOK FOR IN THE FUTURE. IN PHASE THREE, WE PLAN TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AND POST TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE AND ALSO THE CITY SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE. IF WE CAN ALSO GET THIS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THAT WOULD ALSO BE BENEFICIAL TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT RIGHT SIDE SERVICES DO EXIST. ONCE RIGHT SIDE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND IS IMPLEMENTED, WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR THE SUCCESS OF THE SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS NOT JUST SUCCESSFUL FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT IS ALSO SUCCESSFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE CAN'T JUST IT'S NOT A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. IF ONLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS BENEFITING OFF OF IT, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC AFTER WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY UNFORESEEN ISSUES, WE WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE CITY MANAGER, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND SHOULD YOU ALL ASK THAT WE COME BACK BEFORE YOU WITH AN UPDATE, WE'LL BE PREPARED TO DO SO. BEFORE I TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL, I DO WANT TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC THAT THIS SERVICE IS NOT MANDATORY. IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU DO WANT TO STILL GO TO THE HOSPITAL BY AMBULANCE, WE STILL ARE GOING TO KEEP AN AMBULANCE IN ROUTE. HOWEVER, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO GO WITH THE RIGHT SITE HEALTH SERVICES, WE WILL PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH RIGHT SITE SO THAT THEY CAN GET YOU THE MEDICAL ATTENTION THAT YOU DO NEED AT THIS TIME. THAT COMPLETES THE PRESENTATION. I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE. I THINK, BEFORE OPENING UP, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, IF YOU COULD JUST WALK THROUGH, YOU SAID IF THEY SHOULD CHOOSE TO GO LIKE THEY CALL 911 AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS? SO DURING EMERGENCY INCIDENTS WILL COME OUT AS WE NORMALLY WOULD. AND WE WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS THE PATIENT IF IT'S DEEMED THAT THIS IS NOT A LIFE THREATENING EMERGENCY. AT THAT TIME, WE'LL OFFER THE SERVICES OF RIGHT SITE. IF IT IS A LIFE THREATENING EMERGENCY AT THAT TIME, WE'RE NOT GOING TO OFFER BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT YOU NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL BY AMBULANCE. BUT IF IT'S LIFE, IF IT'S NOT LIFE THREATENING AND YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO USE RIGHT SITE HEALTH, THEN WE'LL

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WE'LL HAVE WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY ON BOARD OF OUR, OUR APPARATUS TO PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH RIGHT SIDE HEALTH SERVICES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. AND IS THERE A COST? THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITIZENS. THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITIZENS WHATSOEVER OUTSIDE OF IF THEY HAVE AN INSURANCE. AND WE'LL GO INTO THAT ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET IT ROLLED OUT. IF THEY HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, THEN RIGHT SIDE WOULD BILL THE HEALTH INSURANCE. AND WE'LL LAY ALL THAT OUT ONCE IN OUR COMMUNICATION PIECE. IF IT'S A COST ASSOCIATED, YOU'LL SEE A BILL ON YOUR INSURANCE OR NOT. BUT THERE'S NO COST OUT OF POCKET TO THE RESIDENTS. AND IF THE INSURANCE IS $100 AND INSURANCE ONLY PAYS $75, DOES THE RESIDENT HAVE TO PAY THE $25? NO RIGHT SIDE IS GOING TO EAT THAT COST. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WILL YOU? HOW SOON WILL YOU HAVE FLIERS? SO THE FLIERS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BEFORE WE MAKE ANY MOVES OR ANY DECISIONS, WE'RE GOING TO VET IT WITH LEGAL. LEGAL IS IN THE PROCESS NOW OF WORKING WITH THE RIGHT SIDE ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THE CONTRACT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT UNTIL WE GET THE APPROVAL FROM ATTORNEY WIGGINS. SO ONCE WE GET THE APPROVAL, I THINK IT WAS A TIME LIMIT ON IT THAT SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. SO ONCE THAT TIME LIMIT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH DISSEMINATING IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR EITHER FALL OR WINTER OF THIS YEAR, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE'S AN EVENT COMING UP ON SATURDAY THAT THIS INFORMATION COULD HAVE BEEN SHARED AT THAT EVENT, BECAUSE IT WILL BE SENIORS THERE. OKAY. SO LIKE LIKE WE DID STATE ANY EVENT THAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY THAT WE DO SEND FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL. WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ANY PROGRAMS WE ARE IMPLEMENTING. OKAY, GOOD. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, GENTLEMEN. THE ONLY THING I JUST WANTED TO SUGGEST IS MAYBE AN OPEN HOUSE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO YOU ALL AT THE FIRE STATION TO EXPERIENCE RIGHT SIDE. THANK YOU. THAT'S A DEFINITE OPTION. WE'LL DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT.

COUNCILMEMBER. YES, CHIEF THORNTON AND CHIEF HILL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. TWO VERY QUICK QUESTIONS. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR DESIRED ROLLOUT TO TO GET THIS GOING? UNDERSTANDING THAT LEGAL IS REVIEWING SOME DOCUMENT. WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS ROLL OUT SO THAT CITIZENS CAN START TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS BENEFIT? HONESTLY, WE WANT TO ROLL IT OUT AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THE GO AHEAD FROM LEGAL, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A DYNAMIC PROGRAM THAT WE WANT TO ROLL IT OUT AND INTRODUCE IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO 87% OF OUR CALLS ARE MEDICAL CALLS. AND BY HAVING THIS PROGRAM, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A PATIENT THAT WE'RE JUST SAY, HAS A STOMP TOE, I'VE HAD MY TOE HURTING FOR TWO WEEKS. WELL, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY. BUT WHAT IT'LL DO, IT'LL TIE UP THAT APPARATUS WITH THREE PERSONNEL OR TWO PERSONNEL FOR AN HOUR OR SO, OR EVEN 30 MINUTES WAITING ON AN AMBULANCE, WHEN INDEED, WE MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER EMERGENCY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN THAT WE COULD HAVE USED THOSE RESOURCES. RIGHT. SO THIS WILL ALLEVIATE THAT AND ALLOW THOSE RESOURCES TO BE AVAILABLE. OKAY. AND WE JUST HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND INSURANCE. AND I HEARD YOU SAY THAT RIGHT SITE WOULD BUILD THE INSURANCE OF THE PATIENT SHOULD THEY DECIDE TO GO WITH RIGHT SITE. SO THEY TAKE ALL MAJOR CARRIERS. IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE CITIZENS IN YES, THEY TAKE ALL ALL TYPES OF INSURANCE. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, THAT'S THE THE BEST PART OF THE PROGRAM. IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, YOU'RE STILL COVERED. THE CITIZENS WON'T COME OUT OF POCKET ANYWHERE. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA, CHATTAHOOCHEE HILLS, UNION CITY. IT'S A NEW INNOVATIVE WAY TO HELP WITH EMS ALL OVER THE STATE. AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT RIGHT SIDE DOES SAY IF YOU LACK HEALTH INSURANCE, THEY WILL CONNECT YOU WITH A LOW COST OPTION OR A FREE CLINICAL SOCIAL RESOURCE SO THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE THE TREATMENT THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE TREATMENT THAT YOU NEED.

OKAY. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DID WE ALREADY APPROVE THIS? WE'RE JUST DOING THE PRESENTATION FOR THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. YOU ALREADY APPROVED IT. YOU JUST ASKED ME TO COME BACK ON THE COMMUNICATION PIECE. YOU WANTED TO KNOW HOW WE WERE GOING TO COMMUNICATE IT TO THE CITIZENS. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ROLLING OUT AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS HEALTHCARE INNOVATION OPTION. I CALL IT A WAY TO REALLY MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET THEY STILL GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED, BUT ALSO BE

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EFFICIENT AND MANAGING OUR FIREFIGHTING RESOURCES AT THE SAME TIME. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING. YOU DID A GREAT JOB TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I KNOW WE HAVE ALYSSA ECHEVARRIA FOR WATER. COMMUNICATIONS IS THE ONLY OTHER ITEM THAT WOULD NEED STAFF HERE, AND THEY HAVE TO BE HERE WITH US TO RECORD. MISS ECHEVARRIA, HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION? OKAY. WISE. LET'S COME ON UP. LET'S TRY TO GET THAT ONE IN REALLY QUICKLY, AND THEN THAT WILL TAKE US THROUGH ALL OF THESE. WE CAN EVEN DO A MOTION ON CONSENT AGENDA WOULD THEN BE AT THE AGENDA. WE'LL RECESS. THEY'LL BE HAVING BEFORE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON THE AGENDA. ATTORNEY, I THINK THIS IS ONLY GOING TO TAKE US MAYBE FIVE MINUTES.

IT'S A FOLLOW UP OR SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN WE'LL BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS ITEM WAS PULLED, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. WE GOTTA DO A MOTION TO PULL IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PULL IT. IT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE CAN DO THAT LATER. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING,

[XI.5. East Point Water Infrastructure Enhancement Act of 2025 and Water Resources Development Act Change]

MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND SO THE GOAL OF THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST TO INFORM YOU SOME CHANGES REGARDING THE EASTPOINT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENT ACT THAT WAS PASSED IN 2025. THIS AUTHORIZES THE EXPANDED INVOLVEMENT OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IN EASTPOINT. WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. THE PURPOSE. WITH THIS AUTHORIZATION, CONGRESS CAN ALLOCATE NEW FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF EASTPOINT REGARDING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, IMPROVING WATER SERVICES FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. OUR POLITICAL SUPPORTERS WERE SENATOR JON OSSOFF. HE WAS THE PRIMARY SENATE SPONSOR. HE INTRODUCED THIS ACT IN MAY OF 2024, AND HE SHEPHERDED IT LAW IN JANUARY OF 2025. YOU HAVE CONGRESSWOMAN NIKEMA WILLIAMS. SHE WAS THE PRIMARY HOUSE SPONSOR. SHE INTRODUCED THIS ACT IN JUNE 2024, AND SHE SUPPORTED ADDITIONAL FUNDING CAP INCREASES. SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK WAS THE SUPPORTER OF THE FUNDING PHASE AT THE SENATE LEVEL FOR THE EASTPOINT WATER ENHANCEMENT ACT. SO THIS YEAR, THROUGH NOTIFICATION TO SENATOR OSSOFF'S OFFICE AND ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, I HIGHLIGHTED THE AREA WHERE WE WERE SLATED TO RECEIVE $15 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS. THE CHANGES TODAY IS REALLY TO DISCUSS OUR MATCH. IT'S CHANGED. SO WITH $15 MILLION. WHEN I DID MY PRESENTATION A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE WERE SLATED TO HAVE A FUNDING MATCH OF $3.7 MILLION.

THE REVISED AWARD IS $19,940,000. THE 25 MATCH IS $4,985,000, WHICH MEANS IT'S INCREASES BY $1,235,000. AND SO WITH THE FUNDING, WE WILL BE REHABILITATING OUR WATER LINES FROM SWEETWATER TO OUR RESERVOIR AT BEN HILL, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF SOUTH FULTON, TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT. THEY WILL HANDLE THE COMPLETE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND THE PERMITS NECESSARY TO DO THE PROJECT. THE CHANGE IS WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE THE FUNDS AND WE WOULD DO THE 25% MATCH. WE WILL HAVE TO PRODUCE THAT 25% MATCH WITH THE ARMY CORPS ENGINEERS AS THE PROJECT PROCEEDS. THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT. YOU MEAN THEY HAVE 19? THEY HAVE. YES. YES, THAT'S THAT'S THEY HAVE THE MONEY. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, I WASN'T FOR CERTAIN IF ANYTHING WAS GOING TO CHANGE. BUT THEY HAVE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT. SO I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO BUDGET THIS. AND I KNOW 25% IS A LOT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO THIS FISCAL YEAR, I DID BUDGET FOR $1,875,000 IN PREPARATION FOR RECEIVING THE AWARD LETTER. SO THE GOAL HERE IS TO PRODUCE THE 1,000,008 75 THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR. AND THE REMAINING FUNDS WILL BE, LIKE I SAID, 1.2. BUT THIS IS ALL WITH THE IDEA THAT THE MOST IS HERE, AND WE KNOW THAT THE MOST, MOST WILL BE RUNNING OUT NEXT SEPTEMBER, BUT IT'S ON THIS YEAR'S BALLOT. SO JUST I DON'T LIKE TO SURPRISE YOU. THE REASON WHY WE NEED TO TALK

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ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE THEY SENT ME A DRAFT CONTRACT, AND I KNOW THAT THOSE NUMBERS DO NOT MATCH THE ORIGINAL AWARD NOR PRESENTATION. I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOU WITHOUT JUST SHOWING YOU THE CHANGES. SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE TALK TO YOU ABOUT THOSE CHANGES AND THE NEXT WORKSHOP. I SHOULD HAVE THAT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING EASTPOINT FUNDING MATCH. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I DO HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION IN PLACE, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT THE MOST IS NOT AVAILABLE, WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK FOR OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS. THANK YOU. SO DO YOU NEED US TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT? NO ACTION ON THE CONTRACT WHEN IT COMES. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE, SAY, CONTRACT. AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE NUMBERS COME FROM. THIS IS TO PREPARE YOU THAT THE CONTRACT IS COMING. AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO REFLECT THE NUMBERS THAT I JUST PRESENTED YOU TONIGHT. WITH THE NEW MATCH AND THE OVERALL INCREASE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS MORE OF THE 19 MILLION VERSUS THE $15 MILLION. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR SO I GUESS I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS HOW MUCH DO WE HOW MUCH ARE WE RECEIVING IN REVENUE FROM MOST? IT VARIES. SO THE LAST PRESENTATION TO DATE WITHOUT THIS FISCAL YEAR IS WE'VE EXPENDED 11 MILLION THE BUDGET IN FY 26 WERE SLATED TO RECEIVE 17 MILLION. YOU SAID THE BUDGET WAS 17, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN NO TOTAL EXPENDED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE MOST TO NOW, WE'VE EXPENDED 11 MILLION. BUT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR IN TOTAL IS 17. IS THAT THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OR THAT'S OUR PROJECTED? NO, THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I HAVE PLANNED SPENT IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE PREPARE A YEAR IN ADVANCE FOR WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO SPEND. NOW. DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WE WILL RECEIVE OR WE RECEIVED IN THE LAST BUDGET? IT IT IT VARIES. YOU KNOW, IT'S BASED OFF OF ALLOCATION OF GOODS AND SPENDING. SO WE AVERAGE ROUGHLY PROBABLY A HALF A MILLION A MONTH IN REVENUES FROM THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX. ONE LAST QUESTION. SO WITH OUR PARTICULAR MATCH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT, $19 MILLION, WHICH ARE MATCHED TO BE ABOUT $5 MILLION, IS IT REQUIRED? WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR US MATCHING THE FUNDS WITH OUR PERCENTAGE? YES. AS THE PROGRESS AS THE PROJECT PROCEEDS, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO ALLOCATE THE INITIAL AWARD LETTER WOULD JUST GIVE US $200,000 FOR FY 25, $14.6 MILLION, 2026, AND THEN ANOTHER $200,000 IN FY 27. BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OR AGREEMENT YET, WE'RE KIND OF LIKE A YEAR BEHIND. SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON CONSTRUCTION. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE FIRST YEAR WE MAY SPEND PROBABLY A HALF $1 MILLION. THE BIG YEAR IS GOING TO BE THAT SECOND YEAR WHEN CONSTRUCTION BEGINS AND THE THIRD YEAR IS WRAPPING UP. ANY CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION, ENGINEERING, DESIGN, AND PROBABLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ASPHALT THE ROAD PROPERLY. WHAT MAKES THIS JOB A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED? BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE ARMY CORPS WOULD DO IT. OUR WATER LINES CROSS MANY, MANY STATE ROUTES. I BELIEVE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE NECESSARY PERMITS BEFORE WE CAN. SO THERE THERE ARE SOME POSITIVE THINGS WITH THEM TAKING OVER THE PROJECT. WE WILL BE INVOLVED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONTINUITY PLAN IN PLACE, BUT DEFINITELY THE STATE WITH THE ARMY CORPS WILL BE HANDLING EVERYTHING FOR US.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OH NO QUESTIONS. I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. BUT IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT TONIGHT, THEN WE'LL JUST. THEN WE'LL JUST WAIT, OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR WORK. THAT'S ALMOST A $5 MILLION INCREASE FOR A WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT OVER $326 MILLION THAT WE NEEDED. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND I GUESS WE'LL GET THIS EITHER OCTOBER 6TH OR A MEETING IN OCTOBER. YES. THE CONTRACT WILL BE YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE.

[XIII. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

NO. ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? NO. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SEVEN THROUGH 21. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL

[XV. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO LEGAL MATTERS. SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY RECONVENE. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? IT'S THE WRONG AGENDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP. NEED A

[XIV.23. Council Discussion and Possible Action of Vendor Hon Company, from State Contract #99999- 001-SPD0000198-0019, for Communications Suite Renovations. NOT TO EXCEED: $33,408.54; FUNDING SOURCE: 100-1324-542.23-00]

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MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 23 FROM THE AGENDA. THE CITY MANAGER SAID THAT THAT WAS BEING PULLED. SO MOVED SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT THIS TO GO TO A DATE? CERTAIN. I THINK THE NEXT AGENDA. OCTOBER 6TH. YEAH.

OCTOBER 6TH. I THINK IT JUST NEEDED LEGAL REVIEW. GOING TO BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO PLACE IT ON THE OCTOBER 6TH AGENDA. NO, YOU GOTTA MAKE IT. OH, I'M MOVED THAT WE DO JUST A FRIENDLY. YEAH, YEAH. SUBSTITUTE. LET'S GO WITH THE SUBSTITUTE.

SUBSTITUTE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE MOVE THIS AGENDA ITEM TO A DATE CERTAIN OF OCTOBER 6TH. SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

[XIV.24. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Innovation TAD]

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE NOW ON COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON INNOVATION TAG. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO TALK ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY. SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. AT OUR LAST MEETING, OUR GIS COORDINATOR HAD PROVIDED THE GIS MAP OF THE POTENTIAL BOUNDARY AREA. AND THEN THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE LEGAL TEAM AND THE CONSULTANT WORKING WITH THE TEAM ON THE PLAN TO TRY TO OVERLAY THE CORE THIS HAD ON TOP OF IT. BUT HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION BACK FROM THEM? MR. JONES I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIM TODAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OTHER TAD WAS APPROPRIATELY LAID OUT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE WHERE HE IS ON THAT. SO WE WON'T ASK TONIGHT, BUT WE MIGHT NEED TO CONSIDER POSSIBLY ADDING THIS TO THE SEPTEMBER 22ND SPECIAL CALL MEETING. JUST FOR THE GOAL IS JUST BOUNDARIES, RIGHT? LIKE AN OVERLAY SO WE CAN SEE THAT. ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH THAT? YES OKAY. OKAY. SO I WON'T IF IF WE GET SOMETHING THE CITY MANAGER CAN LET US KNOW. AND THEN WE CAN ADD IT TO THE SPECIAL

[XIV.25. Council Discussion and Possible Action on List of Roadways for LIDAR Operations]

MEETING AGENDA. NEXT UP MOTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE LIST OF ROADWAYS FOR LIGHT HOUR OPERATIONS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES EITHER OF YOU PRESENT FOR CHIEF OR OKAY. COME ON. FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. JUST PRESS THAT BUTTON FOR ME. PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE MIC. THERE YOU GO. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. CITY MANAGER. I'M CAPTAIN GARRETT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE ITEM NUMBER 25. THE ROADWAYS IN QUESTION ARE THE ROADWAYS THAT OUR OFFICERS THAT UTILIZE SPEED DETECTION DEVICES NEED TO.

THESE ROADWAYS HAVE TO BE APPROVED EVERY THREE YEARS BY DOT. SO THAT'S WHAT THESE ROADWAYS ARE. AND THIS LIST ALLOWS US TO SHARE IT WITH GDOT SO THAT WE CAN USE THE THE SPEED DETECTORS ON THEM. YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. SO I'M SORRY, WHAT WHAT I MEAN BY SPEED PROTECTION IS LASER AND RADAR. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION. MADAM MAYOR. MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE THE LIST OF ROADWAYS FOR LIGHT OPERATIONS. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

[XV. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. WE ARE NOW BACK AT. EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO WE HAVE ANY FROM LEGAL. YES. ANY FROM THE CITY MANAGER. I JUST HAD ONE ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD ACTUALLY NOT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT WE HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO TO INTRODUCE TO THE COUNCIL. THAT'S JOEL FITZGERALD. HE'LL BE SERVING AS OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. AND FOR THOSE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOCUSES ON SPECIAL PROJECTS, HELPING WITH LEADERSHIP IN OUR DIVISIONS AREA. AND MR. FITZGERALD COMES TO US WITH OVER 30 YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE EXPERIENCE WITH HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM VILLANOVA UNIVERSITY, HIS MBA FROM EASTERN UNIVERSITY, AND

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HIS PHD IN BUSINESS FROM NORTH CENTRAL UNIVERSITY, HAS A LONG CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND HE'S GOING TO BE JOINING OUR TEAM. JUST LET HIM KNOW WHO YOU ARE. SO WAS THAT YOUR ONLY ITEM? THAT IS MY ONLY ITEM. GREAT. SO ANY FROM COUNCIL? WELCOME, WELCOME. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. OH COME TO THE MIC ACTUALLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MAYBE STILL WATCHING SO THEY COULD SEE YOU. SO GOOD EVENING. FOR THOSE OF YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WHO I HAVE NOT MET, I. I'M JOEL FITZGERALD. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT, BUT I'M HOPING TO GET SOME MEETINGS WITH EACH ONE OF YOU TO POSSIBLY TOUR YOUR DISTRICTS AND TO GET A GAUGE ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP IN THE DIVISIONS I'LL BE WORKING IN. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I CERTAINLY CAN ANSWER. WELCOME. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS FROM COUNCIL? ALRIGHT. SO THAT GOES BACK TO YOU, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. YES. WITH THE SMILE.

NOT REALLY, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY YOU TELL US YOU HAVE. YOU COUNT. YOU SAID YOU WAIT TOO LONG OF A PAUSE. TOO LONG OF A. FOR LEGAL TO PERSONNEL. FOR LEGAL TO PERSONNEL. AND THERE WERE NONE FROM COUNCIL. CHECK MY NOTES. WELL. SO WE NEED A MOTION TO RECESS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR FOR LEGAL AND THREE PERSONNEL ITEMS. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN GET A MOTION TO RECONVENE, PLEASE. SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. NEED A MOTION TO PROCEED AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING PERSONNEL. Y'ALL GOTTA LET ME FINISH. I DIDN'T FINISH READING IT. MOTION TO PROCEED. AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING PERSONNEL COMPLAINTS. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES IN THE MATTER OF CITY OF EAST POINT VERSUS KINSALE. NEED A MOTION TO PROCEED AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES IN THE MATTER OF CHELSEA SMITH VERSUS CITY OF EAST POINT. NEED A MOTION TO PROCEED AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES MOTION TO APPROVE. EXECUTIVE SESSION. MEETING MINUTES. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION TO ADJOURN. I NEED A SECOND. SECOND?

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