[I. Call to Order]
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GENTLEMEN. I AM PATRICIA LEVITT. I AM THE CHAIR FOR THE EASTPOINT PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND WE WILL GET STARTED NOW. DIRECTOR SMITH, ARE WE READY? OKAY. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER MILLER. WE'RE NOT READY FOR ROLL CALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MILLER. HERE, COMMISSIONER WATSON. COMMISSIONER STYLES, PRESENT. COMMISSIONER. PRESLEY. PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER. MARK. FEELS. COMMISSIONER. CHAPMAN. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER. ANDERSON. PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER. JOSEPH. FEELS. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SMITH. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. I'M SO SORRY. YOU HAVE A QUORUM AND MARKING THAT YOU'RE HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE. THANK YOU. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[V. Approval of August 2025 PZC Minutes]
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES. COMMISSIONERS. MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER MILLER, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AUGUST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. MINUTES SECOND. THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND, THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 25TH. PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I OPPOSES HEARING NONE.[VI. Adoption of Agenda]
THE MINUTES ARE NOW APPROVED. WE WILL NOW HEAR AN ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. A MOTION, PLEASE.MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA. SECOND, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, SEPTEMBER THE 18TH, 2025. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSES HEARING NONE. THE AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED. OKAY, NOW WE WILL HEAR. GO INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. DO I HAVE THE RULES? OKAY. THANK YOU.
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PUBLIC HEARING RULES ARE AS FOLLOWS. PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED CASE WILL BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT FOR THE ZONE ZONING CASE, OR THE APPLICANT'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING CASE WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COMMISSION MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME OF SPEAKERS, PROVIDED THAT EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SPEAKER FOR A SIDE, THE CHAIR OR THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED TO EACH SPEAKER. INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER. OTHER THAN THE ZONING APPLICANT, THE ZONING APPLICANT MAY RESERVE A PORTION OF HIS OR HER ALLOTTED TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING. EACH SPEAKER SHALL IDENTIFY HIM OR HERSELF AND[00:05:04]
STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS. EACH SPEAKER MUST SPEAK ONLY TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE. UNDER CONSIDERATION SHALL ADDRESS REMARKS ONLY TO THE COMMISSION, AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY OTHER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REFUSE A SPEAKER THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE IF, AFTER FIRST BEING CAUTIONED, THE SPEAKER CONTINUES TO VIOLATE THE RULES OF DECORUM. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE HEARD OUR RULES FOR PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MADAM CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, I SECOND IT. THANK YOU.NOW THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I A OPPOSES HEARING. NONE. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. DIRECTOR SMITH. YES. IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA, CASE NUMBER P2025R-001-08. THE APPLICANT IS CMC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ZERO NORMAN BARRY DRIVE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM I TO M I TO CONSOLIDATE THREE PARCELS WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE TO REDUCE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES. CASE TYPE IS A REZONING WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND PRESENT YOUR CASE.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD. AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS SEAN BELL, PRINCIPAL OF CMC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. MY ADDRESS IS 1140 ANSELL LANE, NORTHWEST ATLANTA. 30318. AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS PROJECT FOR SOME TIME AND HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND PLANNING OFFICIALS TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH ALL THE VARIOUS PIECES TO IT. AND SO VERY EXCITED THAT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE REALLY SEEKING IS TO CONSOLIDATE THE THE PROPERTY THAT WE ALREADY OWN, THE LOTS THAT WE OWN, TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A A DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DO TWO THINGS.
ONE, NOT ONLY PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED HOUSING, BUT ALSO LOOK AT BRINGING IN MULTIFAMILY AND AND SOME ASSISTED LIVING AS WELL INTO THE PARTICULAR AREA. SO I'LL JUST KIND OF BREEZE THROUGH THE SOME SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. AS YOU KNOW, THE IT'S LOCATED ON NORMAN BERRY, WHICH IS NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE. THE SITE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S JUST A WOODED SITE, AND IT SITS ADJACENT TO THE NORMAN BERRY SENIOR DEVELOPMENT. SO WE SEE THIS AS SORT OF A CONTINUATION OF THAT SORT OF RELATIONSHIP WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. BUT THEN WE ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A NEED FOR SOME REALLY HIGH QUALITY HOUSING. SO WE'VE ENDEAVORED TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT PROCESS. SO WE'RE REALLY JUST SEEKING TO GET THE ZONING TO CONSOLIDATE THE LOTS THAT WE ALL THAT WE HAVE ALREADY. SO THEY'RE ALL SORT OF CONFORMING. AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, OR JUST AS IMPORTANT, IS THINKING ABOUT THE CHANGES WE NEED OR SOME OF THE RELIEF WE NEED ON THE PARKING, AS OUR SENIOR COMPONENT WOULD NOT NEED AS MANY PARKING SPACES AS WOULD THE THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THOSE ARE OUR BASIC REQUEST. THE SITE PLAN IS HERE 6.4 ACRES. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE LAID OUT THAT WE ENVISION MOVING THAT PROCESS THROUGH THE PROCESS. A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN REALLY IN THE MULTIFAMILY SPACE. WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE LOOK TO KIND OF ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF BUILDING SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE AND IS ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND REALLY BRINGS VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE EXPERIENCED IN DOING A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE SOME SENIOR DEVELOPMENTS, SOME VETERANS
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DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL, AND A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS KIND OF A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THE BULK OF WHAT WE DO, IN ADDITION TO ALSO SOME MARKET RATE LUXURY PRODUCTS THAT WE DO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. SO. THE UNIT TYPES FOR THE SENIORS, THOSE WOULD BE OR THE ASSISTED LIVING SENIOR PIECE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY ONE BEDROOM TYPE UNITS THAT ARE KIND OF SELF-SUFFICIENT WITH SOME AMENITIES FOR THOSE SENIORS. AND THEN ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE, WE WOULD HAVE A MIXTURE OF UNITS, SOME ONES TWOS AND SOME THREE BEDROOM UNITS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THE SITE AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE WHAT WE THINK WILL BE A COMPLEMENT TO SOME OF THE THE LONGER TERM VISIONS THAT THE CITY HAS HAD, AND ALSO SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE'VE BEEN INFORMED OF ON THE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SITE WITH RESPECT TO REALLY BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING AND PERHAPS HAVING FOLKS WHO ARE IN NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE UNITS, BECAUSE ON THE ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE, ALL THE RENTS WILL BE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, AT AT THE AREA MEDIAN, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE WOULD BE RIGHT, RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE AFFORDABLE BASED ON THE STANDARDS. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME BASIC FLOOR LAYOUTS. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE DESIGN PIECES. THE MOST CHALLENGING PART, AND WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME OF THE RELIEF ON THE PARKING IS THE SITE IS IS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGED.SO THERE'S CERTAIN PARTS OF IT THAT WE ACTUALLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AROUND THAT. AND HENCE SOME OF THE RELIEF IN OUR DESIGN PROCESS. WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO SORT OF ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE PIECES. SO I'LL JUST I'LL SKIP THROUGH.
AND MOST OF IT IS SORT OF WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE. AND AGAIN, THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE OF THINGS ON ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE JUST A MIX, A MIXTURE OF OF UNITS AND THEN SOME, SOME AMENITY SPACES. WE WANTED TO CREATE MORE OF A CAMPUS ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AND KEEPING WITHIN THE DENSITY. THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH THE AREA. SO I AM GOING TO AVAIL MYSELF FOR ANY QUESTIONS, UNLESS ANYONE WOULD LIKE ME TO GO FURTHER INTO THE INTO THE THE PRESENTATION ARCHITECTURAL WORK. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD. IT SEEMS THAT. WHAT. I'M SORRY. IT SEEMS THAT WHAT WE WILL DO NOW IS HAVE ANYONE THAT IS FOR AND AGAINST. AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. OKAY, SO IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE THAT IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. ANYONE IN FAVOR OF. I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT IS AGAINST THE PROJECT? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD. IF YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE. I DON'T SEE ANYONE WITH THAT. AND WHAT WE'LL DO NOW IS CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MAY I HAVE MADAM CHAIR? YES. I MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. SECOND, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND, THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER P2025. DASH 001-08. ALL THOSE. LET IT BE KNOWN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I OPPOSES HEARING NONE. THE CASE IS NOW CLOSED. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER FILLS. THANK YOU. WE I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE DO APPRECIATE THE REDEVELOPMENT FOR MULTI HOUSING IN OUR CITY. BUT AS FAR AS THE DISTRICT AND THE ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE AND THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED, IT SEEMS THAT IT'S A LITTLE. IT'S IT'S A LITTLE CONVOLUTED IN THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO DO MULTI HOUSING IN A, IN A MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL AREA OR ACTUALLY CONVERT INTO A MULTI, MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL AREA. AND THEN THEN GET A AND THEN ASK FOR A USE PERMIT TO INSTALL MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. THAT SEEMS TO BE YOU KNOW A LITTLE BACKWARDS TO ME. SO I WAS WONDERING WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO REQUEST TO REZONE TO R3, WHICH IS A PROPER ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING? WHY DID YOU PICK THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE TO GO? RIGHT. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PLANNING
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DEPARTMENT ON THIS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GOING THROUGH WHAT SEEMED TO BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE ZONING. AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THE SENIOR HOUSING, THE ASSISTED LIVING AND MULTIFAMILY. SO THAT WOULD WOULD LINE UP VERY WELL WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING AND ALLOW US TO BUILD AT THE DENSITY THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO KIND OF MAKE THE MAKE THE PROJECT FEASIBLE. WELL, IT WOULD SEEM THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE THE ZONING DONE, THEN YOU REALLY CAN'T REQUEST A USE PERMIT FOR THE ZONING. IT SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. ATTORNEY. MADAM ATTORNEY. YES. YES, MA'AM AND YES, COMMISSIONER FIELDS. SO THE REQUEST IS FOR THE REZONING WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCES. AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE REZONING WOULD HAVE TO COME AS A BASIS FOR GETTING THE WELL, THE CONCURRENT VARIANCES ARE RUNNING ALONGSIDE THE REZONING. AND SO FOR THAT THIS PROJECT TO OCCUR, HE WOULD HAVE TO GET APPROVAL OF BOTH BOTH THINGS. BUT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE REZONING. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. WELL, THEY WOULD APPROVE BOTH BECAUSE IT'S CONCURRENT TO THE REZONING. SO THE REZONING AND THE VARIANCES WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THIS BOARD DECIDES. OKAY. OKAY.THAT'S MY QUESTION. I WAS COMMISSIONER PHIL SAYS. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? YES, MADAM CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON.
EVENING TO YOU. HOW MANY SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING HOMES HAS CMC DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTED? WE WE HAVE NOT BUILT ANY FOR OURSELVES, BUT OUR PARTNERS HAVE. BUT WE WE DO OWN VETERANS SENIOR VETERANS HOMES HOUSES IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE. BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE ONE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO ASSISTED LIVING. WE'VE DONE THE WHOLE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PIECE. I LIKE THE VETERAN ASPECT. THAT'S THAT'S NICE. OKAY. SO THIS WOULD BE A FIRST. IT WOULD BE RIGHT. THIS WOULD BE A FIRST ON THE ASSISTED LIVING, WHICH IS MORE OF A FULL SERVICE IF YOU WILL, AS OPPOSED TO JUST A TYPICAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH WE DO QUITE FREQUENTLY.
GOT IT. SO SIMILAR TO YOUR QUESTION, MULTIFAMILY IS THE PRIMARY BASIS OF CMC. YES, IT'S FOR US TO BE QUITE HONEST. A BUILDING IS A BUILDING, RIGHT? THE PROGRAMING OF THAT BUILDING IS KIND OF WHAT COMES NEXT. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE HOUSING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SENIORS AND VETS IN THAT WE HAVE HOUSES THAT WE HAVE JUST, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL WORKING FAMILIES. SO IT'S JUST A MIXTURE. BUT IN TERMS OF THIS ZONING ALSO, THE OTHER THING IS TWO OF THE LOTS ARE ZONED, YOU KNOW, AS OF RIGHT, WHAT WE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. BUT THERE'S JUST THE ONE LOT THAT WAS OUT OF ZONING. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE CONSOLIDATING OR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET ALL THE ZONING ALIGNED SO THAT IT ALL MAKES MAKES SENSE. OKAY. I'M JUST ASKING INQUIRIES, THAT'S ALL. YEAH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PRESLEY, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, YES. SO THIS PROJECT, WE ARE COMBINING THE MULTIFAMILY WITH ASSISTED LIVING. HAVE YOU EVER DONE ANY OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THIS? AND I'M JUST I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE SENIOR ASPECT OF IT. AND CONSIDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, LIFESTYLES VARY GREATLY BETWEEN THE TWO. SO CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS WELL, PLEASE? WELL, THIS THIS BEARD MIGHT GIVE YOU A HINT I'M HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION AS A SENIOR. SO SO I'M I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. AND AND THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. NOT TO THE EXTENT OF THE ASSISTED LIVING, BUT WE DO BELIEVE IN INTERGENERATIONAL HOUSING BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION IS REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT HAPPENS ON THE COMMUNITY LEVEL. AND WE THINK THERE'S A GREAT VALUE TO KIND OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, SENIORS OR VARIED POPULATIONS KIND OF INTERACTING. IT ACTUALLY MAKES FOR NOT ONLY GOOD COMMUNITY ACTION, BUT ALSO REALLY BENEFITS THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES. THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A UNIQUE SITUATION, GIVEN THAT IT'S IT'S JUST SORT OF ON A MUCH VACANT LAND WHERE WE TYPICALLY DO A LOT OF, OF DENSE BUILDING. SO THIS ONE WE, WE ENVISION REALLY HAVING AS A CAMPUS SORT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CREATING SOME OPEN SPACES. AND THEN I THINK AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE KIND OF INTERACTIVE THINGS. SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF PROGRAMING THAT WE DO ON A YEARLY BASIS WITH, YOU KNOW, ON ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE, YOU MAY HAVE YOUNGER CHILDREN WHO MAY BE DOING, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL PROGRAMS OR TYPES OF EVENTS THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S SENIORS WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE VERY SKILLED AT THESE THINGS. SO THERE'S A WAY TO TRY TO BRING THOSE TOGETHER. SO THERE IS THERE IS SOME THERE ARE DEFINITELY,
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DEFINITELY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE THE INTERACTION GIVEN THE DIFFERENT POPULATIONS. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE POTENTIAL FOR GREAT SYNERGY BETWEEN THOSE POPULATIONS. SO I SEE THAT AS A PLUS. AND THANK YOU. I THINK I'M JUST MORE OR LESS I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA IN THEORY. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING TO HAVE MULTI-GENERATIONAL. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE MARKETING. AND IF THE THE TWO SIDES WILL BE WILLING TO COME IN AND BE HOUSED THERE BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES THAT THAT THERE IS, AND THEY BOTH, YOU KNOW, WANT TO RESPECT EACH OTHER'S SIDE. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THAT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT. SURE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MILLER, SIR, IS THIS HAVE YOU DONE A PROJECT WITH CMC IN EASTPOINTE BEFORE? IS THIS THE FIRST ONE AT THIS POINT? THIS IS OUR FIRST IN EASTPOINTE. I PURCHASED THIS LAND SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND JUST SORT OF BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT READY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? YES. IS THERE AN AGE RESTRICTION? NOT ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE. ON THE SENIOR SIDE, THERE WOULD BE JUST THE NATURE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED. SO, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD SAY YES, ON THAT SIDE AND OTHER SIDE WILL BE JUST ANY AGE. YEAH. WOULD BE ANY, ANY YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT'S NOT A SENIOR, BUT IT COULD BE A SENIOR THAT MOVES INTO THE MULTIFAMILY SPACE AS WELL. SO THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY OPEN. AND IT'S A TAX CREDIT DEAL RIGHT. NO NON TAX CREDIT. NO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO A TAX CREDIT DEAL OKAY. YEAH.COMMISSIONER FILLS IS YOUR LEADER. OH I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER STYLES I JUST I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE PRESENTATION. BASICALLY THIS SEEMS TO BE A PRESENTATION FOR MULTI-FAMILIES IN ORDER TO TO PUT THE MULTIFAMILY IN THE MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A USE PERMIT FOR THAT. SO WE'RE WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THAT'S WHY I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF DISCOMBOBULATED ABOUT THE WHOLE PRESENTATION HERE. WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH. WE HAVE TO STEP THROUGH TOO MANY OBSTACLES IN ORDER TO GET TO YOUR USE PERMIT, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. YOU NEED A USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO PUT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN A MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT.
SO THE WAY I SEE IT, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE A REQUEST FOR TO REZONE TO MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. WHICH WOULD IT BE? R3 SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF AND AND THE ASSISTED LIVING PART, WHICH HAS ITS OWN REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS SOMEONE STAFF, SOMEONE HAS TO STAFF THAT FACILITY. AND YOU HAVE A RATIO OF 1 TO 3 IN THAT FACILITY. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN ADDRESS THAT EITHER. SO THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK THIS IS THIS TWO. DISCOMBOBULATED THAT SHOULD BE BEEN PRESENTED IN A DIFFERENT WAY. WHY ARE YOU AFRAID TO JUST TRY TO REZONE IT TO R3? NOW? THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEAL WITH ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL AND HAVE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT. THAT WAY YOU CAN PUT WHOEVER YOU WANT IN THOSE HOUSES. YOU CAN HAVE A SENIOR, YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY, HIGH INCOME, LOW INCOME, YOU KNOW, MIX OF INCOME PEOPLE. AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH TRYING TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A MEDICAL THING. YOU KNOW, OR SENIOR THING OR SO YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF DISCOMBOBULATED ABOUT THAT WHOLE PRESENTATION.
SO THAT'S MY MY CONCERN WITH THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER STYLES YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED TOO. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS IN THE MI DISTRICT CODE. IT DOES SAY IN SECTION THREE DWELLINGS. SECTION THREE A SINGLE FAMILY. SECTION THREE B SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE, THREE MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS 3D2 FAMILY DWELLINGS. IS THAT SO. YOU'RE LOOKING TO REZONE INTO THE MI DISTRICT A ZONING DISTRICT. AND AND IN ORDER TO SATISFY THE ZONING NEED, YOU'RE DOING A REZONING WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING SENIOR HOMES AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS IN THE SAME ENTIRE COMPLEX. YES. CORRECT. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. AND THEN. IF IF STAFF CAN JUST CONFIRM WITH ME THAT I AM READING THE CODE CORRECTLY, THAT SECTION THREE UNDER
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DWELLINGS WOULD INCLUDE A MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING WITHIN THIS REZONE. DIRECTOR SMITH, OR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR KELLY. MISS. MISS STILES, I BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT. I BELIEVE YOU SAW MULTIFAMILY LISTED. I DID SECTION THREE. SEE, I DON'T HAVE IT PULLED UP IN FRONT OF ME. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE ALONG WITH THAT IT STATES SENIOR LIVING AS WELL. ALONG NEXT TO THAT I HAVE IT PULLED UP. MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY READ IT. YES. SO USE REGULATIONS WITHIN THE MI DISTRICT. LAND STRUCTURE SHALL BE USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STANDARDS HEREIN. ANY USE NOT SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS A PERMITTED USE IN THIS SECTION, OR AS A USE ALLOWED BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT OR USE PERMIT SHALL BE PROHIBITED. SO THAT'S THE INTRODUCTION. AND THEN THERE'S A LIST PERMITTED USES. ONE IS AN ADULT DAY CENTER, TWO IS A CHILDCARE LEARNING CENTER. THREE WHICH COMMISSIONER STILES IS READING FROM IS DWELLINGS. A IS A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING, B IS A SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE DWELLING. ATTACHED STRUCTURES CONTAINING NO MORE THAN TEN DWELLING UNITS. C IS MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS, D IS TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. IT IS NOT QUALIFY THOSE DWELLINGS AS HAVING TO BE SENIOR HOUSING, AND THEN THE USE PERMIT SECTION, WHICH IS DOWN IN 14. IT LOOKS LIKE 14 C I MAY BE WRONG. OH I'M SORRY I'M SORRY SUBSECTION B1C AND THAT READS REALLY WEIRD. BUT THE USE PERMITS THAT ARE ALLOWED THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM, NONE OF WHICH HE'S TRYING TO DO. AND THEN USE PERMITS PERMITTED THROUGH PER. SORRY. THE FIRST ONE WAS ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT, NONE OF WHICH APPLY. AND THEN YOU HAVE A USE PERMIT, WHICH IS SUBSECTION D, AND IN SCANNING THOSE. IT DOESN'T APPEAR ANY OF THOSE APPLY EITHER. AND THEN THERE IS A SECTION 15 WHICH IS SENIOR HOUSING. YES. SECTION 15 A IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 1020 108. SO SO IF YOU GO TO TEN DASH 2108, IT TALKS ABOUT THE STANDARDS FOR SENIOR HIGH HOUSING. AND LET'S JUST GO BACK FOR A SECOND. 2108 WAS THAT UNDER BECAUSE I CLICKED OFF OF IT. THAT WAS UNDER A PERMITTED USE. COMMISSIONER STILES. WAS IT UNDER PERMITTED USE? I'M NOT I'M NOT SEEING THAT. I'D HAVE TO PULL IT UP ON THE COMPUTER. OH I SEE, YES, I WENT BACK TO IT. SENIOR HOUSING IS A PERMITTED USE, SO IT'S A USE ALLOWED BY. RIGHT. BUT THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THOSE CONDITIONS INCLUDE THE HEIGHT NO MORE THAN 20 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE SHALL BE ALLOWED IN A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. NO DWELLING UNIT SHALL CONTAIN MORE THAN TWO BEDROOMS. MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM OF 600FTā !S OF GROSS FLOOR AREA. PARKING SPACES SHALL BE CALCULATED AS ONE AND 4/10 1.4 SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT. NO PARKING SHALL BE ALLOWED IN THE MINIMUM FRONT SETBACK. SENIOR FACILITIES MUST BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.LANDSCAPED STRIPS AND BUFFERS SHALL BE PROVIDED AS SPECIFIED IN THE MIXED DISTRICT. THAT'S THE MIX DISTRICT IN CHAPTER SIX. WHEN ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DEED RESTRICTED TO SENIOR HOUSING, EXCEPT AS PROVIDED FOR BY FAIR HOUSING LAWS. FACILITIES SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS. SOME PERMITS MUST BE REQUIRED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CCO. PROJECTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO INCORPORATE EASY LIVING AND APPLICABLE ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS. LASTLY, HOUSING SHALL HAVE AT LEAST 80% OF THE OCCUPIED DWELLING UNITS OCCUPIED BY AT LEAST ONE PERSON WHO IS 55 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER, WHICH SHALL BE VERIFIED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER IN A MANNER DEEMED ACCEPTABLE PURSUANT TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT MOSTLY ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS REZONE IT TO THE MI SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE BOTH USES. YES, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, MULTIFAMILY DWELLING AND THEN THE SENIOR CARE CENTER. WELL, JUST A
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MULTIFAMILY IN THE SENIOR CARE. THE SENIOR SENIOR. YES. THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD. ON YOUR PROPOSAL, DO YOU HAVE A LAYOUT OR A PLAN FOR THE MULTIFAMILY THAT YOU CAN SHARE? AND WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THIS OF THE THE BUILDING ITSELF, OF THE MULTIFAMILY OF THE UNITS OR THE BUILDING? THE UNITS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ONE IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE CAN GET YOU ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK I'M A LOT MORE CLEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE. I SEE COMMISSIONER PRESSLEY'S. YES, ATTORNEY JUST RAISED 600FTā !S AND I WROTE THAT DOWN. THIS IS MINIMUM 600FTā !S.THIS IS SHOWING FOR NINE SQUARE FEET. WHAT IS THIS FLOOR PLAN? TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH, 986. BUT THE OTHER FLATS, IF YOU WILL, WERE LIKE THREE LESS THAN 400FT. YEAH. THOSE ARE THE ASSISTED LIVING UNITS. ROGER THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I SEE YOUR HAND. GO AHEAD PLEASE. OH, WHAT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT IS ASSISTED VERSUS MULTI. WELL RIGHT. YEAH. THE UNIT IS A 107 160 40. HOW WAS IT ALLOCATED. YEAH WE'RE WE'RE ENVISIONING ENVISIONING THE UNITS TO BE IN TWO TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS. SO THEY WOULD BE SPLIT PRETTY MUCH DOWN THE MIDDLE. SO WE HAVE LIKE 130 37 UNITS. SO THEY WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH SPLIT BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME SIZE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THAT COMPLETES YOUR QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER WATSON. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. JUST ONE FINAL THOUGHT. YES, SIR. SIR, I WROTE DOWN THAT YOU HAD INTERGENERATIONAL HOUSING. I THINK THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. HAVE YOU TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION OF A PERSON OF A CERTAIN MATURITY AND HOW THEY MAY INTERACT WITH A YOUTHFUL PERSON? YOU KNOW, I HAVE TWO DOGS. I MEAN, OLDER DOGS AND DON'T TYPICALLY LIKE PUPPIES. WELL, I'LL BE COMING WITH THOSE PERSONS OF A CERTAIN AGE, SO I APPRECIATE IT. SO THE THE THE ANSWER IS YES. WE ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY THERE, ESPECIALLY IN, YOU KNOW, IN THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE, WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE MAYBE MUCH MORE MATURE, THAT CAN HAVE ENGAGEMENT WITH YOUNGER FOLKS IN SOME, SOME INSTANCES. SO WE SEE THAT AS A, AS A POSITIVE OPPORTUNITY, TYPICALLY IN MORE DENSE AREAS, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SENIORS LIVING NEXT DOOR TO YOUNG FAMILY OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING. SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE IT AS ONE OR THE OTHER. BUT THERE'S I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO KIND OF BLEND THOSE THINGS FOR SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO BRING FOLKS TOGETHER. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE ONE MORE QUESTION. THANK YOU. ATTORNEY WIGGINS, DID YOU HAVE IF THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AND YOU GUYS ARE DONE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT, I KNOW STAFF NEEDS TO DO THEIR STAFF REPORT, BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING I TOOK THE TIME TO READ READ THE SENIOR HOUSING. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON COMMISSIONER STILES'S QUESTION, IN SEEKING CLARITY THAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO DO MULTIFAMILY AND ASSISTED LIVING, NOT MULTIFAMILY AND SENIOR HOUSING. AND IF THAT'S ACCURATE, THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER SET OF REQUIREMENTS FOR ASSISTED LIVING, WHICH I DID NOT READ. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE ASSESSING THIS APPLICATION AGAINST THE RIGHT CRITERIA. AND THEN SO THAT'S ONE POINT. THE SECOND POINT IS WHETHER OR NOT ASSISTED LIVING IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE MY DISTRICT IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING OF SENIOR HOUSING, WHICH IS NOT ACCURATE BASED ON THIS LAST EXCHANGE. WELL, LET ME JUST CLARIFY. AND AND SOME OF IT MIGHT BE MY CONFUSION BECAUSE I USE THE WORD SOMETIMES INTERCHANGEABLY. SO FOR SENIOR HOUSING FOR US IS SENIOR HOUSING. WHETHER THE END PRODUCT IS WHETHER YOU'RE DOING INDEPENDENT OR ASSISTED LIVING PIECE. SO IF THAT IF THAT'S A DISTINCTION, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PIECES TO SEE WHAT WHAT'S NEEDED TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT INTERCHANGE THOSE TWO TERMS. THERE ARE DISTINCT IN OUR CODE AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ONE VERSUS THE OTHER ARE VERY, QUITE DIFFERENT. SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT YOUR END GOAL IS. RIGHT? SENIORS, WE GET THAT. BUT WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY OR SENIOR HOUSING, OTHERWISE THIS APPLICANT, THIS APPLICATION IS NOT RIGHT FOR
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THEIR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE IT UNDER A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CODE.ABSOLUTELY, I GET IT. SO IT IS IT IS THE THE ASSISTED LIVING THAT WE'RE PURSUING. AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION. I USE THE WORDS INTERCHANGEABLY BECAUSE FOR ME IT'S HOUSING THAT WE BUILD WHAT THE END USER IS, WHETHER IT'S SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, VETERANS HOUSING OR SENIORS. YOU KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SO I, I STAND CORRECTED ON ON THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MISS GATEWOOD. YES. IF I MAY, THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THE REZONING. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IT IS FOR THE USE PERMIT FOR ASSISTED LIVING. THEIR APPLICATION WAS FOR SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING. SO THEY DID MEET THAT CRITERIA BEFORE GOING ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. IF THAT WASN'T ALREADY CLEAR THAT THEY ARE SEEKING THE REZONING TO COMBINE THE PARCELS, BUT ALSO GET THE USE PERMIT BASED ON WHETHER THEY GET APPROVED FOR THE REZONING OR NOT TO DO ASSISTED LIVING ONCE IT'S COMBINED, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I'M I KNOW I ASKED THIS LAST WEEK, BUT I WANT TO ASK IT AGAIN. AND THAT IS THE MY PORTION. AND IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION I MEAN YOUR ANSWER CORRECTLY. YOU SAID THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ON SITE MEDICAL ASSISTANCE. AND I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THERE'S NOT EVEN A HOSPITAL BY. SO MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING. WHERE IS THE MI PORTION OF YOUR REQUEST COMING IN? THEY WON'T HAVE ANYONE THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEARBY. SO THE ZONING PIECE FOR ME IS CONFUSING THE MI PART. YEAH, I KNOW THE MI WAS A LITTLE TRICKY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IN THE PIECES. THE THE NAME SORT OF THROWS FOLKS OFF, BUT IN TERMS OF THE SERVICE LEVEL, THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE ON SITE AS A REQUIREMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE OKAY. IT WILL IT WOULD NOT BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HOSPITAL SETTING, OF COURSE, BUT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DOCTORS AND NURSES THAT HAVE TO COME IN TO TAKE CARE OF OF THE RESIDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND CERTAINLY THEY WOULD BE ATTENDANTS THERE TO KIND OF DEAL WITH ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP SORT OF ON THE SPOT. BUT BUT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A MEDICAL FACILITY IN THAT SENSE, SUCH AS A HOSPITAL. SO, DIRECTOR SMITH, WHAT IS THE CITY'S OBLIGATION TO APPROVING? THIS WITHOUT HAVING ANY MEDICAL COMPONENT ATTACHED TO IT? THERE SEEMS TO BE NO COMMITMENT OR OBLIGATION FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN AS ASSISTANT LIVING, BUT THERE'S NO ASSISTING. THANK YOU FOR THAT. FOR THAT QUESTION. IN REFERENCE TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT'S MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT, IT HAS MULTIPLE PERMITTED USES. BY RIGHTS, THIS PARTICULAR AREA ALONG CLEVELAND AVENUE IS POSTED AS A MEDICAL INSTITUTION CORRIDOR. WHEN THE CITY DID HAVE A HOSPITAL AND OTHER SUPPORTIVE MEDICAL USES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE A MEDICAL COMPONENT, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES. AND IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT, SENIOR HOUSING IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT. WHAT IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT IS THE ASSISTED LIVING COMPONENT, WHICH IS THE NEXT PETITION ON THE AGENDA IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS. WHAT DO I HAVE? MADAM CHAIR, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT BECAUSE THIS APPLICANT HAS THE TWO. ITEMS. THE ONE THING OR TWO, IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES TO GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SECOND PORTION, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU JUST ASKED. WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR ASSISTED LIVING? IF IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ASSISTANCE OR SOME TYPE OF MEDICAL ASSISTANCE? RIGHT. AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO THAT CODE SECTION AND DISCUSS WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE UNDER THE STATUTE. SO WE DON'T NEED TO CLOSE THE FIRST CASE OUT I WOULD NOT. GET A MOTION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. SOUND NUMBER TWO OKAY. AND THEN IT NEEDS TO SAY ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ABOUT THOSE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CODE. AND THAT YOU AGREE WITH
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YOU GUYS AND PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S DOING. AND THEN YOU CAN GO FORWARD TO THE STAFF REPORT SINCE THERE'S SO INTERRELATED. OKAY. IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL NOW GO INTO THE SECOND CASE, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER P2025-001. DASH ZERO EIGHT. WHAT DO I HEAR. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. GOOD NIGHT.SECOND I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON THE SECOND CASE FOR C EMBASSY DEVELOPMENT GROUP. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSES HEARING NONE. WE WILL NOW GO INTO THE SECOND CASE FOR CMC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA, CASE NUMBER P20252-00108. THE APPLICANT CMC DEVELOPMENT GROUP PROPERTY LOCATED AT ZERO NORM BERRY DRIVE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE PERMIT TO DEVELOP A 138 UNITS OF ASSISTED SENIOR LIVING IN THE MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT. IN THE CASE TYPE IS A USE PERMIT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SMITH. APPLICANT. YOU MAY GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, SO. AND AND STAFF MAY PRESENT THE SECOND PART OF THIS.
MADAM CHAIR BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION. LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST ASK FOR THE ROOM IF THERE'S ANYONE IN FAVOR IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE. AND THEN WE CAN GET TO STAFF PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. MADAM ATTORNEY. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT. WE'RE JUST GOING FOR A MOTION. WELL, NO, BECAUSE YOU ONLY ASK. WE ONLY HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FIRST CASE. THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS. OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO ZONING AND VARIANCE. FIRST. THERE WAS NO ONE THAT CAME UP. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW THE PUBLIC HEARING RULES, LET'S ASK THE AUDIENCE IF THERE'S ANYONE IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED TO THE USE. IT'S THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THE USE PERMIT? YOU MAY COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THE USE PERMIT? YES. THANK. COM WE DO SEE ONE PERSON IN FAVOR OF YOU MAY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. HELLO, MY NAME IS MARCUS GUTHRIE. MY ADDRESS IS 3645 MARKETPLACE BOULEVARD, SUITE 130 023. AND I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE OF THE REZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME. I'M NO LONGER A CURRENT PHYSICAL RESIDENT, BUT A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT. MOVED HERE IN 1978. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GO ON, FAVORABLE AND UNFAVORABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AS A COMMUNITY ADVOCATE, I THINK THAT THIS WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH OUR AGING WORK FOR OUR AGING COMMUNITY AND FOR THE YOUNG COMMUNITY THAT'S COMING UP AT THE SAME TIME, ESPECIALLY IF WE COULD DO A MIXED DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT. THERE'S SEVERAL STUDIES THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT A MIXED COMMUNITY, AS FAR AS AGE GROUPS, IS BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. SO JUST FOR THAT PARTICULAR, EVEN THAT PARTICULAR FACT, I DON'T HAVE THE DATA IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S IT'S READILY AVAILABLE ONLINE. I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT SHOULD DEFINITELY GET A THUMBS UP FROM EAST POINT CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING? DO WE HAVE ANYONE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING? I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD AND WE CAN NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON MADAM CHAIR. YES, SIR. MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, WE HAVE NOW HEARD A PROPOSAL. WE HAVE HEARD A MOTION TO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER 2025, DASH 001, DASH ZERO EIGHT AND P20252-00108.
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ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSE IT HEARING NONE. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT CLOSED ON THESE TWO CASES. LET'S HEAR FROM STAFF AND SHE WILL SPEAK ABOUT BOTH THE REZONING AND THE USE PERMIT. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. GOOD EVENING. IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER P2025 .001, THAT'S ZERO EIGHT. AND ASSOCIATED CASE P2025U-00108. CASE TYPE IS A RESOUNDING WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCES AND IT HAS ASSOCIATED USE PERMIT REQUESTS. THE APPLICANT IS C MC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. THE ZONING. THE CURRENT ZONING IS OUR IS E I AND IT'S GOING TO BE REZONED OR THE REQUEST IS FOR IT TO BE ZONED TO MI, WHICH IS OUR MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE REZONING FOR I TO ME, TO CONSOLIDATE THREE PARCELS WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCES TO REDUCE THE PARKING WITH ASSOCIATED USE PERMIT. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE, THE PARCEL IS ZONED MEDICAL. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED.EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONAL. AND IT'S THE DARKER BLUE TOWARD THE THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE FUTURE PLANNING IN THIS AREA IS TO IMPROVE HOUSING CONDITIONS, TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VACANT HOMES AND LOTS THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WILL INCLUDE AN ASSORTMENT OF HOUSING TYPES SUCH AS SINGLE FAMILY, TWO FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY. THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ASSEMBLE IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, A TYPE OF STREET GRID AND NETWORK WITH TREE CANOPIES, POCKET PARKS, AND WALKABLE ENVIRONMENTS. STAFF. ACTUALLY, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE ABANDONMENT OF THE CITY OWNED RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE IN NORMAN BERRY DRIVE IN AKRON STREET FOR THE PURPOSE TO CONSTRUCT NORMAN BERRY VILLAGE SENIOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON JUNE 20TH, 2023. SNAP STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING FROM EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONAL TO MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL FOR THE PURPOSE TO CONSOLIDATE THREE PARCELS WITH THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING THE SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. IN REFERENCE TO THE USE PERMIT. STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE USE PERMIT FOR THE PURPOSE TO CONSOLIDATE THE LOTS AND TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE FOR THE REDUCED PARKING USE PERMITS UNDER THE MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR ASSISTED LIVING, AND SO THAT WAS THE INTENT AND PURPOSE TO HAVE THIS USE PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH THE REZONING. WITHOUT THE REZONING, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET A USE PERMIT. SO THE APPLICANT WAS REQUIRED TO APPLY FOR THIS. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE REZONING AND THE VARIANCES WERE APPLIED FOR FIRST. AND IF IT IS APPROVED, THEN THE APPLICANT WILL GO FOR THE USE PERMIT TO ADD THE ASSISTED LIVING AS A USE. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SMITH. COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE HEARD FROM STAFF WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DISCUSS. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER STYLES. I THINK MAKING A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION SO THAT DISCUSSION CAN OCCUR BEFORE THE MOTION ON THE ON THE AGENDA.
SECOND. GO AHEAD, PLEASE, MADAM CHAIR. ALL IN FAVOR? REALLY QUICK BEFORE THE MOTION TO FOR DISCUSSION, DID SHE. YEAH, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR HER. I MADE A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND? IT HAS BEEN MOTION AND PROPERLY SECOND THAT WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I HEAR. NOW. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONERS. DO I SEE ANYONE'S LINE? OKAY, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. OKAY, SO THE OTHER ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, CAN I
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AGAIN HAVE A QUESTION HERE AS WELL. IS THIS OPEN. SO IN TERMS I KNOW THE CITY HAS CHALLENGES AND WE HAVE ORDINANCE IN PLACE FOR LIKE AIRBNB. SO IF WE'RE DOING MULTIPLE FAMILY HOUSING, IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS AROUND THE USE OF AIRBNB IN THOSE IN. SO OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE HAS MULTIPLE GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS IN REFERENCE TO HOW THEY'RE USED.SO IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE TO TO RENT OUT THEIR SINGLE UNIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL. THEY MOST LIKELY WOULDN'T MEET THE SHORT TERM RENTAL REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S WHY TO MAKE SURE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS A QUESTION? SURE, YES. WITHOUT THE APPLICANT OR THIS IS TO YOU, DIRECTOR SMITH, WITHOUT THE APPLICANT HAVE TO HAVING TO RESUBMIT. IS THERE A WAY TO OMIT THE VERBIAGE ASSISTED OUT OF THIS, WHERE IT'S JUST SENIOR LIVING AND MIXED USE, AND IT'S JUST PRESENTED SIMPLY AS THAT, BECAUSE AS IT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER, THERE IS NO MEDICAL. I'VE ADOPTED A SENIOR AND SHE'S SHE STAYS IN A PLACE WHERE SHE HAS A DRAW CORD AND SHE FALLS. SHE CAN PULL ON THAT DRAWSTRING THERE. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO ACTIVE MEDICAL STAFF OTHER THAN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOWN THE STREET TO ASSIST SOMEONE. IF THEY FAIL. THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO OMIT ASSISTED OTHERS. THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT WHETHER THEY'RE WILLING TO OR IS THAT THEIR INTENT? YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT AND THEY WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
OKAY. YEAH, I WAS JUST ASKING YOU THAT WAY. WE DON'T SEE THIS NEXT MONTH IF IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO OMIT THAT WORD OUT THERE, WE DON'T. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT ASSISTED LIVING IS ALLOWED TO PERMIT ANYBODY. AND YOU SEE HERE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN. NEEDS TO GET THAT EASEMENT. NUMBER TWO, AT LEAST ONE ADMINISTRATOR ON SITE MANAGER OR STAFF PERSON MUST.
COME DAY. IT DOESN'T QUALIFY THAT PERSON WHO HAS NO MEDICAL TRAINING. BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THEM TO BE THERE. THERE'S OTHER CONDITIONS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO TO READ OVER.
THOSE. SAME OR YEAH, THOSE THINGS ARE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR SENIOR HOUSING.
RIGHT. I READ ABOUT THIS IN HOUSING. SO IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A REQUIRED PERSON ON SITE. SOME OF THE OTHER DIFFERENCES I SAW FOR THIS ASSISTANT LIVING REQUIREMENT IS THAT THEY HAVE A KITCHEN AND DINING AREA. SO AND THEN ALSO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SENIOR HOUSING I THINK I SAID THIS IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT. IT WOULDN'T EVEN NEED A USE PERMIT. IT WOULD JUST NEED THE REZONING AND THE CURRENT VARIANCE. I'M GOOD. YEAH. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER? THAT WAS COMMISSIONER PRESLEY. YEAH. YES. GO AHEAD PLEASE. YEAH. I THINK THE THE CLARIFICATION IS ABOUT ASSISTED LIVING VERSUS LIKE NURSING HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S NEVER 24 HOUR STAFF AT ASSISTED LIVING. THE STAFF IS COMING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME DURING THE DAY. AND THEN THEY HAVE THEM ON CALL. SO THEY'RE LIKE THIS IS MORE LIKE FUNCTIONAL ADULTS OR PERSONAL SENIORS THAT LIKE ALMOST WOULD TRANSITION TO A NURSING HOME. I THINK THAT CLARIFICATION IS MORE NECESSARY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS A HOSPITAL STAFF BEING THERE 24 SEVEN, AND THAT'S NOT KIND OF THE THAT'S NOT WHAT ASSISTED LIVING IS. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. AND ANYBODY CAN BACK ME UP. I THINK THE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE, THE, THE, THE NOMENCLATURE IS KIND OF CONFUSING. BUT THE, THE CLARIFICATION OF WHAT IS ASSISTED LIVING VERSUS IS NOT POINT NUMBER TWO. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MEDICALLY TRAINED.
SO OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR STATEMENT. YES I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. SO HAVING HAD SOME REALLY INTERESTING TOURS OF ASSISTED LIVING PLACES, ASSISTED LIVING IS VERY MUCH THAT THERE ARE CNAS. THEY'RE NOT FULL, THEY'RE
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NOT NS, THEY'RE CNAS AND THEY ARE NURSING ASSISTANTS AND THEY ARE TYPICALLY THERE. THERE'S A NIGHT SHIFT AND A DAY SHIFT, AND THEY'RE THERE TO PROVIDE MEDICATION SUPPORT. THEY TAKE BLOOD PRESSURE IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, IF YOU KNOW YOUR YOUR LOVED ONE IS IN THERE AND THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AT MIDNIGHT, THERE'S SOMEBODY ON CALL TO HELP PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO EITHER AMBULANCE OR FAMILY SO THAT THEY CAN THEN COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, ASSESS THE INDIVIDUAL. NOW, IS IT PERFECT? NO. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE THE PARSING OF THE WORDS NURSING HOME, ASSISTED LIVING, SENIOR LIVING IS IMPORTANT. ASSISTED LIVING CAN BE ANYTHING FROM MY MOM WHO NEEDS MEDICATION SUPPORT AND HER BLOOD PRESSURE TAKEN A COUPLE TIMES A DAY TO A PARAPLEGIC OR A QUADRIPLEGIC WHO CANNOT GET IN AND OUT OF BED ON THEIR OWN, WHO CANNOT, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEIR OWN FOOD, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS A HUGE, BROAD SPECTRUM OF SERVICES PROVIDED UNDER THIS UMBRELLA TERM OF ASSISTED LIVING. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS ADDED TO THE CONVERSATION HERE. THANK YOU.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I DO I WAS YES SIR. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER FEELS CAN YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE MIC AND SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT PLEASE? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN I READ THE APPLICATIONS REQUEST, HE WANTS TO DEVELOP ASSISTED LIVING AND REGULAR MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS. AT THE SAME TIME. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT PORTION IS ASSISTED LIVING AND WHAT PORTION IS MULTIFAMILY? AND I THINK TOGETHER IT'S ALL MULTIFAMILY. IT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF HIS APPLICATION IS. BUT IN ORDER TO TO DO THAT, HE FEELS THAT HE'S GOT TO GO TO A MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT IN ORDER TO DO THAT. I THINK, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT A REQUEST FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING SHOULD GO THROUGH THE R3 DISTRICT CRITERIA, AND THEN WE CAN DEVELOP THAT FROM THERE. AND, AND ALL THIS ASSISTED LIVING TALK AND STUFF LIKE THAT WOULDN'T EVEN APPLY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO APPLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT SET UP FOR THAT. HE JUST WANTS TO DO IN MY IN MY OPINION, HE JUST WANTS TO DO A MULTIFAMILY. WHICH MULTIFAMILY FOR THE CITY IS GREAT. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THIS IS A CONVOLUTED PRESENTATION AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. AND IT'S GOT TOO MANY DIFFERENT PARTS. THAT'S NOT FITTING PROPERLY. SO I PERSONALLY THAT THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. BUT THERE'S THERE'S NO DIRECT. THING I CAN DO. I DON'T I DON'T THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT. I THINK THIS SHOULD BE DONE FOR R3 REDEVELOPMENT, AND THEN WE CAN DISCERN WHETHER THAT IS GOOD OR NOT GOOD FOR THE AREA. BECAUSE HE HE. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT. I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING. I CAN'T SEE SEE THIS GOING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ASKING TOO MANY DIFFERENT DISPARATE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, THIS APPLICATION WHEN BASICALLY IT'S A IT'S A IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PHILZ I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS. COMMISSIONERS. WHAT DO I HEAR? YOU'VE HEARD FROM STAFF AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT. RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT ONE THING.
AND THE COMMISSIONER. SORRY, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. YES. GO AHEAD PLEASE. IS THAT IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY RESEARCH AND STUDIES OR EXAMPLES OF WHERE ELSE THIS HAS BEEN DONE, I THINK I KIND OF WENT ON CHATGPT HERE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE SOME AREAS IN ATLANTIC STATION HERE IN EASTPORT. I MEAN, HERE IN ATLANTA, WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING OF THE SORTS HERE. SO I THINK. WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT SHOWING OTHER EXAMPLES, SHOWING SOME TYPE OF LIKE RESEARCH FROM, FROM THE APPLICANT SIDE, NOT NECESSARILY FROM THE STAFF, THAT WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE IN OTHER PLACES OR WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY DOING IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL. BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS HERE SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE IF IT IS NOT SUCCESSFUL. IT'S A
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GREAT IDEA. LIKE I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT IF IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL, IN A SENSE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE CONCERN IS. BUT ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP YOU HELP BACK THAT UP FOR YOUR APPLICATION WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THAT'S. I MEAN, COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT AND STAFF I HAVE. YES. GO AHEAD PLEASE. A LITTLE BIT OF SO IT'S A UP ZONING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING IT WILL BE INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY. SO THE R3 ZONING IS LIKE A LESS OF A OF A ZONING THAN IT IS FOR II. SO II IS MORE. SO HE'S HE'S UP ZONING. IT WAS ALREADY INCLUDED. SO II ALREADY INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY. SO HE'S UP ZONING TO. BUT BUT BUT MORE IMPORTANT TO THAT IS THAT ONE PARCEL IS ALREADY ZONED THE WAY HE WANTS TO BE ZONING. HE'S JUST ADDING THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES FOR A COMBINATION PLOT TO ALLOW FOR MORE SPACE AND TO MEET SOME OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS PARKING REDUCTION. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING, IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THAT. SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST AN UP ZONING. IT'S. AM I RIGHT OR WRONG? STAFF. THE ZONING THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT, HE CAN BASICALLY DO SENIOR HOUSING. HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS THIS COMMISSION. HE COULD ACTUALLY JUST COME SEE US AND HE COULD DO SENIOR HOUSING. HE CANNOT DO ASSISTED LIVING, BUT HE COULD DO SENIOR HOUSING WITH THE WAY THE PROPERTY SITS RIGHT NOW.AND THAT'S PRIMARILY WHERE HE'S PROPOSING HIS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICATION AGAIN CAME TO US AS ASSISTED LIVING. AND SINCE ONE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, TWO OF THE PARCELS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS LOOKING AT THE THE PLAT, TWO OF THE PARCELS ARE ACTUALLY ZONED MI. AND ALL HE'S TRYING TO DO IS CONSOLIDATE THOSE PARCELS SINCE A COUPLE YEARS AGO. HE HAD THE ABANDONMENT OF THE ROAD THAT RAN THROUGH THERE.
HE HAD HE BASICALLY GOT THAT. SO ALL HE'S DOING WITH THIS APPLICATION IS CONSOLIDATING, MAKING IT ALL AM I? AND SINCE THIS APPLICATION IS FOR ASSISTED LIVING, HE CAN ACTUALLY DO SENIOR HOUSING BY RIGHT. HOWEVER, THE ASSISTED LIVING PORTION AGAIN HAS TO BE THROUGH THE USE PERMIT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
COMMISSIONER STYLES. YEAH I JUST WANT TO AGREE WITH MY COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT HERE.
WAYNE. I JUST I FEEL LIKE THIS IS UP ZONING AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S A BASED ON THE CODE. IT'S CORRECT. AND A NORMAL REQUEST. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY NEEDS.
AND FOR ME, AFTER I ASKED MY CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS, I DO FEEL CONFIDENT IN THE APPLICANT'S. WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IN HIS HIS MOTIVES. AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PIECE FOR EASTPOINT. AND I THINK IT I'M CLEAR ON WHAT IT WHAT IT MEANS IN TERMS OF THE CODE AND THE REQUEST. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PRESLEY. GIVEN SOME SLIGHT RESERVATION ABOUT THIS INTERGENERATIONAL HOUSING, I HAVE HEARD FROM BOTH THE ATTORNEY'S STAFF, THE DIRECTORS AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND, SECOND. THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE, WHICH WE HAVE GOT TO, SO I HEARD THAT MOTION ON 2025 R&B 108, WHICH IS THE SECOND VARIANCES COMMISSION STAFF. THAT YOU GUYS ARE PRESENTING WITH YOUR REPORT. THIS IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, I THINK. IT'S A STRAIGHT APPROVAL BASED ON THE CRITERIA POINTS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR EACH OF THE ASSISTED LIVING AS WELL AS SENIOR HOUSING. HOUSING. RIGHT. SO THE FIRST MOTION SHOULD BE A ONE OF THE CURRENT HEARINGS IS ONLY EVER WITH THOSE VARIANCES ARE. AND THEN ONCE YOU GET YOUR APPROVAL THAT CHAIR YOU CAN TAKE A MOTION ON THE SECOND PAGE FOR THE CORRECT. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST ONE GETTING. SO COMMISSIONERS, CAN I GET A MOTION PLEASE. ON
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P2025-00108, WHICH IS THE FIRST CASE FOR APPLICANT CM DEVELOPMENT GROUP. YES, SIR. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. DO I HEAR A SECOND SECOND SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE P2025, DASH 001-08. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSES HEARING NONE. CASE NUMBER P2025RZ-001. DASH ZERO EIGHT IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE THE SECOND CASE? P2025. DASH 001-08 COMMISSIONERS. MADAM CHAIR. YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. THANK YOU. SECOND HEARING A MOTION AND A SECOND ON P2025U-001-08 TO APPROVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSE THIS HEARING. NONE.CASE NUMBER P025U-001-08 IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. STAFF, DO WE HAVE THE SECOND I'M SORRY.
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THE THIRD CASE P025-003. DASH ZERO SEVEN. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD.STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. GOOD EVENING. I'M JERRY DAVIS, 1324 EUBANKS AVENUE, EAST POINT. WE'VE RECEIVED ALL THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DIRECTOR SMITH AND MR. KELLY. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD TODAY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO GO ALONG WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY VISUALS, ANY PRESENTATIONS? THIS IS IT WAS JUST A PLAT. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO IT. IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT. WE'RE HAPPY TO SHOW IT TO YOU. OKAY. STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? AND THAT'S A BIG ENOUGH TO BE.
THAT'S FINE OKAY. THAT THAT IS THE PLAT THERE. THE THREE BUILDINGS THERE ON THE VACANT LOT ARE ALL CLOSER THAN FIVE FEET. THE ONE IN THE FRONT CLOSEST TO THE HOUSE, THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED. AND THEN THE TWO IN THE BACK. WE WILL MOVE FURTHER AWAY THAN FIVE FEET. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN YOU JUST REFRESH THE COMMISSIONERS MEMORY ON EXACTLY WHAT THE PROJECT IS YOU ARE LOOKING TO DO? WHAT? OH, SO THE. WE'RE JUST PUTTING THE TWO LOTS.
I'M SO SORRY. THE THE HOUSE WAS A COMPLETE RENOVATION. IT HAD BEEN SITTING THERE IN DISREPAIR FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND THEN IT WAS A DOUBLE LOT. SO WE DECIDED TO SPLIT THE LOT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE TWO LOTS OUT OF IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. STAFF, IS THERE ANYTHING COMING FROM YOU IN TERMS OF CONTINUING HIS PRESENTATION OR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IF WE'RE READY? ARE YOU GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? DID YOU? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OH, WE NEED TO HEAR IF THERE IS ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THIS CASE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THE CASE? IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR? IS THERE ANYONE HERE OPPOSED TO THE CASE? HEARING NONE. WE WILL NOW GO INTO. MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, WE HAVE RECEIVED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD. I OPPOSE THIS HEARING. NONE. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. STAFF RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE. YES. IN REFERENCE TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13 TO 18 EUBANKS AVENUE. CASE NUMBER P2025V, THAT'S 00307. CASE TYPE IS A VARIANCE. THE APPLICANT IS MR. JERRY DAVIS. THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS R1 A WHICH IS OUR URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM SECTION TEN 2062, E AND F TO ALLOW EXISTING STRUCTURES WITHIN EIGHT FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK IN THE R1 ZONING DISTRICT AND A LOT ON A LOT DIVIDE WITH THE MINIMUM WIDTH TO BE REDUCED. SO LARGER SITE PLAN OF THE REQUEST. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2062, E, C AND F TO ALLOW
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EXISTING STRUCTURES WITHIN EIGHT FEET. YARD SIDE SETBACK IN THE R1 ZONING DISTRICT ON A LOT DIVIDE AND A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH TO BE REDUCED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. CONDITION NUMBER ONE APPLICANT MUST CLEAN UP AND CLEAN UP THE PROPOSED VACANT PARCEL PRIOR TO RECORDING OF THE FINAL PLAT OF THE SUBDIVISION. CONDITION NUMBER TWO APPLICANT MUST ADHERE TO ALL BUILDING FIRE AND CODE MATTERS. CODE ENFORCEMENT MATTERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE PRIOR TO RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF THE SUBDIVISION. THAT'S THE END OF STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, DID I HEAR THE RECOMMENDATION? STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH TWO CONDITIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONER, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THAT WE APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND CONTINUE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.SECOND, IT HAS BEEN MOTION AND PROPERLY. SECOND, THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
DO I HEAR ANY QUESTIONS? NO. NO QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. SO HAVE YOU CLEARED THE LOT YET? THERE'S NEVER A LOT. UNDERSTOOD. PRAISE THE LORD. THANK YOU. BUT I DIDN'T CLOSE THE THE MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSE THIS HEARING. NONE. THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE AGREED TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. STAFF, YOU MAY READ
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CASE NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.OH. THIS. OKAY. IN REFERENCE TO 1688 EMPIRE AVENUE, 1692 EMPIRE AVENUE. ALSO KNOWN. IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CASE NUMBER P20252. DASH 002.
THAT'S ZERO EIGHT. CASE NUMBER P2025001. DASH ZERO EIGHT. CASE NUMBER P20252. THAT'S 003. DASH ZERO EIGHT. CASE NUMBER P2025 .002.08. THE APPLICANT IS HENRY BAILEY JR. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1688 EMPIRE AVENUE IN 1692 EMPIRE AVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS ZERO WOODBURY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE PERMIT AND CONCURRENT VARIANCES FOR THE PURPOSES OF OPERATING A CONCRETE MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATION OF A WAREHOUSE. USE PURSUANT TO SECTION TEN, 20, 70 9D8 AND THE ASSOCIATED CONCURRENT VARIANCES FROM SECTION TEN DASH 21, 50 POINT 6A1 TO OPERATE A WAREHOUSE WITHIN 5280FT OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND A VARIANCE TO ALLOW SOME OF THE USE TO BE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TEN, 21 50.6, A TWO CASE TYPE IS A USE PERMIT AND CONCURRENT VARIANCES. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A WRITTEN REQUEST TODAY IN WRITING TO DEFER THIS APPLICATION. THOSE CASES CASES, MADAM CHAIR, BECAUSE IT THE REQUEST FOR DEFERRAL OCCURRED AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS ADVERTISED.
I DO RECOMMEND YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SEE IF ANYONE'S HERE DOES. THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE RESPONDED AND COME TO BE HEARD ON THIS. THIS CASE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN YOU'LL TAKE A MOTION FROM YOUR BOARD IF YOU GUYS AGREE TO DEFER. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS.
WHAT DO I HEAR? MOTION TO OPEN. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND, THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER P20252. DASH 002.
DASH ZERO EIGHT. SLASH P2025C-001- ZERO EIGHT AND P2025. DASH 003. DASH ZERO
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EIGHT. SLASH P202. DASH 5VC-002. DASH ZERO EIGHT. IS THERE ONE? ANYONE HERE FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR CASE? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT? YOU MAY COME FORWARD. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. HELLO EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR FOR HEARING THIS THIS EVENING. COMMISSIONER STAFF. MY NAME IS IAN GIBSON. MY ADDRESS IS 728 BURKE ROAD, ATLANTA, GEORGIA. 30305 I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF DOUGLAS BRANT VINSON ENTERPRISES WITH HENRY BAILEY AND TEAM. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR FOR ALLOWING US TO DEFER THIS AND HAVE THE FURTHER CONVERSATION AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE GET A LINE ON WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS MAY BE AND WE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT? ANYONE HERE OPPOSING? COMMISSIONERS? WHAT DO I HEAR, MADAM CHAIR? YES, SIR. I MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, IT HAS BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FOUR STATED CASES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD. I OPPOSE THIS HEARING. NONE. THE CASE IS NOW CLOSED. STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER CASE, PLEASE? CASE NUMBER FIVE. MOTION DEFER. I'M SORRY. WE ARE DEFERRING THIS ONE. RIGHT, MADAM? OKAY, LET ME GO BACK. CHAIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE DEFERRAL. SECOND, SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE STAFF'S COMMENT ON DEFERRING THIS CASE. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSE THIS[VII.5 P2025RZ-002-08]
HEARING. NONE. THE CASE IS DEFERRED. THANK YOU. STAFF, DO YOU HAVE CASE NUMBER FIVE? MADAM CHAIR, IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA, CASE NUMBER P2025002-08. THE APPLICANT, TIMOTHY CHARLTON. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1784 WEST TAYLOR AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM R1 TO R3 WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCE FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2065 EC TO REDUCE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 4 TO 4FT FROM TEN. TO REDUCE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO FOUR FEET, AND FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2065 E TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT TO 45FT. CASE TYPE IS A REZONING WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. APPRECIATE THAT. MY NAME IS TIMOTHY CHARLTON AND MY CURRENT ADDRESS IS 1370 GEORGE AVENUE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA 303. GO ON WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE ONE OF MY BUSINESS PARTNERS HERE WITH ME AS WELL. SO. EVERYONE, DOUGLAS, HANNAH, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AS WELL.OKAY. MY NAME IS DOUGLAS HANNAH, 1742 WOODWARD CREEK, ATLANTA, GEORGIA. CAN YOU SPELL IT, PLEASE? D O U G L A S DOUGLAS. LAST NAME H A N N A. THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED ALL RIGHT. SO BRIEFLY TONIGHT WE'LL QUICKLY GO OVER A PROPERTY PROFILE. THE REZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM R1 TO R3. AND CONCURRENT WITH THAT REQUEST, WE'RE MAKING TWO CONCURRENT REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE SITE SETBACK. THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 6FT TO 4FT, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE TO INCREASE THE BUILDING OVERALL HEIGHT FROM 40FT TO 45FT. OH, SORRY.
WE ALSO HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ANALYSIS, IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND PROJECT DIGITAL RENDERING.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN NOW TO THE LEFT IS THE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S 1784. AND IT'S AT THE CROSSROAD OF WEST HILL AVENUE AND SAME STREET. AND IT'S A PIECE OF VACANT LAND.
PER THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED IN THE
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REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT. CURRENTLY, THE THE PROPERTY IS ALSO SITUATED IN THE CENTER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE CHARACTER AREA FOR THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY WITH THE FOLLOWING ZONING DISTRICTS R1, R2, R1, R2, R2, AND R3. AND WE'RE REQUESTING THIS REZONING TO REZONING FROM R1 TO R3 TO CONSTRUCT THREE DUPLEXES. SO ITEMS WHICH SUPPORT THE REZONING THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT, PER THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC PLAN, IT ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY IN THIS PARTICULAR CHARACTERISTIC NEIGHBORHOOD. IN TWO INSTANCES, ONE, WE'RE ALREADY EXISTED, AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR PROPERTIES THAT EXISTED EXIST AT CROSSROADS AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AT THE CROSSROAD OF WEST HILL AVENUE AND SAME STREET. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ALSO ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR MORE DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS AND MISSING MIDDLE HOMES, WHICH IS DOCUMENTED IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC PLAN, AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ALSO ADDRESSES CENTER PARCS DESIRE FOR MORE DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS, WHICH INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY ADUS, DUPLEXES OR MULTI-FAMILY. AND THIS INFORMATION IS VIA THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION PLAN. ALSO HEAR POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. SO PRIOR TO THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE SENT OUT THE POSTCARDS. THERE WAS NO ONE AT THE MEETING, BUT AFTER THE MEETING, WE HAD TWO PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA CALLED US AND SAID THAT THEY SUPPORTED THE PLAN. SO FOR THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE NUMBER ONE, THE FIRST ONE IS RIGHT NOW FOR DUPLEX UNDER THE R3, THAT THE PROPOSED SIDE SETBACK IS, THE SIDE SETBACK IS SIX FEET. AND WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO MOVE THAT FROM 6FT TO 4FT ONE, JUST TO ALLOW US JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR THE, FOR THE FOR THE BUILDINGS. AND THAT WAS ALSO TO BUFFER IN SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND MAYBE A LOW LYING FENCE, BUT MOSTLY JUST FOR LANDSCAPING, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM ON THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE. SO CURRENTLY. UNDER THE R-3, THE BUILDING HEIGHT, MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40FT, AND WE'RE REQUESTING 40 TO 45FT BECAUSE WE'RE PLAYING WITH THE WE'RE PROPOSING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS WE WANTED TO AFTER READING THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE URBAN AGRICULTURE PROGRAM, THERE'S A NEED FOR TO ENCOURAGE MORE RESIDENTS TO GROW THEIR OWN VEGETABLES. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE MAYBE A ROOFTOP GARDEN OR VEGETABLE AREA. AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING IF THAT THERE IS A PERMANENT ROOF OR FIXED ROOF UP TO THE TOP THERE, THAT THAT WOULD COME TOWARDS THE BUILDING'S OVERALL HEIGHT AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING THAT. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM WEST HILL AVENUE. WE WENT THROUGH IN TERMS OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S CURRENTLY NO STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY, JUST MEDIUM SIZE TREES AND LIGHT ASPHALT PAVING. IN TERMS OF PROPOSED FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS, THERE'S NO WETLAND FLOODPLAIN STREAMS, SLOPES EXCEEDING 33%, VEGETATION, WILDLIFE, SPECIES OR OTHER ARCHEOLOGICAL OR HISTORICAL SITES. AND THEN IN TERMS OF PROTECTION OF ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY AREAS, NONE. NO WATER QUALITY ISSUES, MINIMIZATION OF ARCHEOLOGICAL ITEMS, CREATION OF GREEN SPACE.AGAIN, WE REFER TO THE URBAN PLAN, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW OUTSIDE OF THE LANDSCAPE IN WHICH WE KNOW WE WILL DO FOR PART OF THE PROJECT AS WELL. THERE'S ALSO NO NEGATIVE IMPACT TO RESIDENTS. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ANALYSIS, DOES THE PROPERTY PROPOSAL PERMIT A USE THAT IS SUITABLE, WHICH IT DOES. DOES IT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE EXISTING USE? NO, IT DOESN'T DOES. IS THERE A REASONABLE ECONOMIC USE AS CURRENTLY ZONED? YES. WILL THE PROPOSAL RESULT IN SOMETHING THAT IS BURDENSOME? NO. IS IT WITHIN THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND INTENT OF THE LAND USE? YES. ARE THERE CONDITIONS THAT SUPPORT THE APPROVAL OR DENIAL? YES. WE REFER TO THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC PLAN.
AND DO WE THINK THAT IT WILL BE A BURDEN TO THE RESOURCES AND THE CITIZENS OF EASTPOINTE? NO.
AND THEN UP LAST YET, JUST A DIGITAL RENDERING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO WE TURN IT OVER TO YOU. IS THAT. I'M SORRY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES, MA'AM. IT DOES. YES. STAFF I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONERS. THE STAFF. STAFF IS HERE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT? IF YOU. SO PLEASE COME FORWARD. IS
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THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF. DO I HEAR FROM ANYONE THAT IS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT? ANYONE HERE? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD. I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECTS. MADAM CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. DO I? IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND, THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. P2025R-002-08. COMMISSIONERS. DO I HEAR OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I OPPOSES HEARING NONE. THE CASE IS NOW CLOSED. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING IN. I THINK THE PROJECT LOOKS LOOKS GREAT. YOU SAID THAT THE THAT YOUR VARIANCES TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 6 FOOT TO 4 FOOT AND HERE LISTED IT SAYS TO REDUCE IT FROM 10 FOOT TO 4 FOOT. NO I THINK TEN FOOT WAS THE CODE REFERENCE FOR THE OTHER ONE.BUT FOR R3 THE SIDE SETBACK FOR DUPLEXES EIGHT IS SIX FEET AND WE'RE ASKING TO MOVE IT TO FOUR FEET. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, PLEASE? YEAH. MADAM CHAIR. WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SEASON PROCESS FOR THIS, FOR NOTIFICATION OF THE NEIGHBORS.
THIS THE SEASON NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING.
BECAUSE I AM WITHIN THE 500 FOOT AND YOU HAD TO SEND ME A POSTCARD. AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT UNTIL THE DAY AFTER YOUR SEASON, YOUR SCHEDULED MEETING, AND THEN I SINCE LAST WEEK, I'VE CHECKED WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER NEIGHBORS. AND YES, IT'S ANECDOTAL, BUT THEY ALSO DID NOT RECEIVE THE CARDS UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING. SO I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. SO ON, I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE REALLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON SIMS STREET AND THE NEIGHBORS ON, YOU KNOW, WEST TAYLOR AND PARK STREETS? WE'VE HAD WHEN WE SENT OUT THE POSTCARDS, EVEN AFTERWARDS, ONCE THEY RECEIVED RESIDENTS CALLED. SO IF RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE CALLED, WE WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO THEM. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE BEEN ATTENDING THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THEY HAPPEN THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. WE ATTENDED JANUARY, FEBRUARY, NOT MARCH AND APRIL. WE'RE THERE FOR MAY. THEY WILL CLOSE FOR SUMMER, FOR JUNE THROUGH AUGUST, JUNE THROUGH JULY. SORRY, AUGUST, WE'RE PREPARING FOR THIS ONE. AND I DON'T THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED FOR SEPTEMBER, NOT IN ADDITION TO THAT. WE'VE ALSO WE ALSO PART OF THE CENTER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD FACEBOOK GROUP. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER REZONING AND THERE WAS QUESTIONS ON THAT. WE'VE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT NO LATER THAN TODAY THAT WE'VE SEEN NO QUESTIONS FOR THIS ONE. OVER THE HOLIDAY RECENTLY, SOMEONE STOLE OUR SIGNS. WE REACHED OUT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, ASKED THEM TO PUT UP NEW SIGNS. WE PUT THEM UP. THE NEIGHBOR TEXTED ME THIS MORNING, TOLD ME SOMEONE KICKED THEM AND STOLE THEM AGAIN. YEAH. SO. RIGHT. SO WHILE WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME SORT OF TIMING DIFFERENCE, WE THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF OUT OF OUR CONTROL, BUT WE'VE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON THE PROCESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE IN CONTROL OF IT. YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND I WANTED TO HEAR THAT, AND I WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD AS WELL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE LITTLE, A LITTLE REARRANGING OF HOW HOW SOON THE GO OUT BEFORE A MEETING. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I SEE, COMMISSIONER PRESLEY. MY QUESTION IS, SIR. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW BY INCREASING THE BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, AID WITH A ROOFTOP GARDEN. I'M A LITTLE IF YOU ON THAT IF YOU WERE TO PUT A ROOFTOP RIGHT AND FOR GARDENING PURPOSES YOU WANTED TO PUT A COVERING ON THAT ROOFTOP, RIGHT. SO IF YOU PUT A PLANT ABOUT A TWO FEET OFF THE GROUND, SO YOU GOT TWO FEET WORTH OF PLANTS, THEN YOU ATTACH MAYBE A THREE FOOT POLE AND YOU PUT A SHED ROOF ON TOP OF THAT. THAT SHED ROOF COUNTS TOWARDS THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. OKAY, NEW QUESTION. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A COMBUSTIBLE COVERING? COMBUSTIBLE COVERING. YES. WOULD IT IS IT IS IT FLAMMABLE? THE POTENTIAL TO BURN. NO NO NO IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD FOLLOW THE REGULAR ROOFING STANDARDS IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING ELSE. OKAY. AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY FLOOR PLANS, BUT I, I WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS. WAS THIS PROPERTY GOING TO BE PROTECTED BY SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, FIRE LONG
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SYSTEMS. SO WE IN OUR INITIAL FLOOR PLANS RIGHT NOW, WE JUST DID WE HAVE TO DO NOW. BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT ONCE WE SUBMIT PLANS TO THE CITIES THAT WOULD WE WOULD FOLLOW ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WE'VE LEARNED TO THIS POINT. ONCE WE HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT EXCEEDS OVER, I THINK, TWO STORIES THAT WE HAVE TO GO AND PUT IN THE FIRE ESCAPE AND ALL THOSE OTHER ITEMS. SO ANYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE CODE WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. OKAY. I ONLY HAVE MY CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INTOXICATED COOKING ON THE ROOF, FAIR. OKAY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER WATSON. YEAH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, I GUESS. ARE YOU DOING METAL ROOFS OR METAL ROOFS? NO. AND CUSTOM WINDOWS? NO, THE WINDOWS PROBABLY CUSTOM.CUSTOM WINDOWS. METAL ROOFS. IS CUSTOM WINDOWS? NO. WELL, THE COLORS WOULD WE UNDERSTAND. IN PARTICULAR, AS IT RELATES TO THIS RENDERING, WE HAVE TO IN TERMS OF OUR MATERIALS, IS WE HAVE TO DO A STUDY WHEN IT'S TIME TO BUILD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE USE ALL OF THE MATERIALS THAT ARE IN THE HOUSES SURROUNDING US. SO WE'RE NOT FINALIZED ON THE EXACT DESIGN YET. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO WITH THE ROOF, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU PUT A GARDEN ON THE ROOF THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IRRIGATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF IS MORE WEIGHT BEARING ON THE, ON THE ROOF. SO YOU GOT TO ENFORCE THE STRUCTURE. ALL OF THAT ADDS COST. SO IS IT ARE YOU DOING THIS. SO WHICH IS WHY IF YOU LOOK IN OUR ZONING PACKAGE IN PARTICULAR AND OUR FLOOR PLANS, THAT PARTICULAR PART IS NOT BUILT IN YET. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO BUILD THAT UP FROM A FEASIBILITY. BECAUSE WE ALSO WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO REMAIN WITHIN A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. AND IF THAT ADDS TOO MUCH BURDEN, THEN WE WOULD DISALLOW FOR THAT. THE DENSITY ALLOWS YOU TO GO TO A HIGHER PRICE POINT, RIGHT? I MEAN, NOT A ACHIEVE A CERTAIN LEVEL, QUITE FRANKLY, GIVEN THE CURRENT MACROECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTS, A HIGH PRICE POINT FOR US WOULD NOT MAKE OUR PROJECT, IN ALL HONESTY, THAT MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL. SO WE'RE TAKING CUES FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN SOLD IN THE AREA AND WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET IN THE AREA, AND WE KNOW WHAT OUR PRICE POINT THAT WOULD BE NEED TO BE WITHIN. SO IF WE REACH TO A POINT WHERE THIS GARDEN DOES NOT FIT THAT MARKET PRICE POINT AND WHAT WE SEE SELLING IN THAT AREA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY FORFEIT THAT PARTICULAR IDEA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS MUCH WITH WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN A CERTAIN PRICE POINT, NOT TO COME HERE AND BUILD SOMETHING. AND THEN WITH A RIDICULOUS PRICE POINT THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR THE AREA. YEAH, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ME. WHAT? SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY. BUT NEVER MIND. THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. BUT OKAY. THAT'S ALL.
THAT'S THE END OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE MANY STORIES. WILL THIS COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, PLEASE, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT YOU SAID THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. HAS THAT BEEN INITIATED YET OR THE. ARE YOU HAS THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY BEEN INITIATED? THE WHICH FEASIBILITY STUDY ARE YOU REFERRING TO? I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING BACK IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU CAN DO ON THE PROPERTY. I THOUGHT YOU MENTIONED THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. OH, WELL, ONE THING WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS WE KEEP AN EYE ON SALES IN THE, IN THE AREA, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE ZIP CODE. AND WE LOOK AT WHAT THE SELLING PRICE VERSUS THE ASKING PRICE. SO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF RANGE WE NEED TO BE WITH THE NEW BUILD. ONE OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE HAVE WITH, PARTICULARLY WITH CENTER PARK, IS THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF NEW BUILDS IN THE AREA.
MOST NEW BUILDS THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE COME FROM THE STONE GATE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS TOWNHOMES, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A COMPARABLE PRODUCT. SO WHILE WE CAN BUILD IN A LITTLE BIT, WE STILL KNOW THAT OVER A CERTAIN PRICE POINT THAT IT WOULD NOT BE RETHINK, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE GIVEN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT. RIGHT. SO FOR INSTANCE, THE FED DROPPED RATES THE OTHER DAY, MANY OF YOU MAY, MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW MORTGAGE RATES WENT UP AS A RESULT OF THAT. SO WE STILL NEED TO BE AFFORDABLE. SO WE'RE STILL TAKING ALL THOSE MACRO ITEMS, ALL THOSE ITEMS INTO CONDITION AS WE CONTINUE TO GET THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS OF THE ACTUAL BILL. OKAY. AND IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS AREA BECAUSE OF HOW FEW HOUSES THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED THAT THERE IS LIKE A AFFORDABLE, HOUSE, LIKE AFFORDABLE UNITS SET ASIDE? I KNOW IT'S NOT A LOT OF UNITS THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITH, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS SITUATION? THAT'S NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR DETERMINING ZONING, OKAY. AND IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE REQUEST NOR DOES THE CODE CONTEMPLATE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. OKAY. JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STILES. YES. HI. GOOD EVENING. GOING BACK TO
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THE THE GARDEN ON TOP OF THE ROOF. I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT YOUR STATEMENT REGARDING ROOFS. ON TOP OF WHAT WOULD BE A GARDEN, BECAUSE GARDENS USUALLY LIKE SUNLIGHT AND PLANTS LIKE SUNLIGHT. AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TOWARDS THE CITY'S AGRICULTURAL PLAN AND, AND AND ALL OF THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. BUT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE ROOF STRUCTURE BECAUSE PLANTS NEED SUNLIGHT. SO CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT, PLEASE? YEAH. SO FROM ALL OF THE RESEARCH WE'VE DONE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF LIKE FLAT SHED ROOF OVER IT, RIGHT. MAYBE TO JUST FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN WHEN WE'VE SEEN ROOFTOPS, RIGHT. WE'VE SEEN THEM TWO WAYS. WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE JUST YOU JUST ALLOW A SPACE ON A ROOFTOP AND PEOPLE CAN COME AND PUT THEIR PLANTS AND PUT EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE. BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN THE CONSTRUCTED BEDS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT INTO THE GROUND. AND FOR THOSE ONES IN PARTICULAR, THEY'VE HAD SOME SORT OF SLIGHT COVERING OVER IT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN THERE. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING IS THE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, THE SMALL ROOF STRUCTURE WOULD ALLOWS SUNLIGHT AS WELL AS COVERING SO YOU CAN ADJUST THEM SO THEY LAY FLAT AS WELL AS THEY CAN TILT VERTICALLY. THAT ALLOWS SUNLIGHT TO COME THROUGH. YEAH. JUST TO GIVE THAT OPTION. ATTORNEY WIGGINS, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD ONCE WE GET THERE IS THAT PROVIDED THE VARIANCE FOR THE HEIGHT IS BASED SOLELY ON THIS ROOF STRUCTURE, IT SHOULD BE CONDITIONED BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD, ESPECIALLY IN HIS EXCHANGE WITH COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN, THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT DO THIS ROOFTOP GARDEN SITUATION. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO THEN APPROVE A VARIANCE FOR HEIGHT IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT RIGHT. AND SO JUST WHEN YOU GET THERE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR MOTION IS TO BE CONDITIONED ON THAT, IT'S FOR THE ROOFTOP GARDEN PURPOSE. OKAY. SO YEAH. AND JUST ONE OTHER THOUGHT. LOOKING AT THE FACADE OF AND THE ARCHITECTURE OF WHAT YOU'VE LAID OUT HERE, AND THEN LOOKING IN THE GOOGLE MAPS AT SOME OF THE OTHER ARCHITECTURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M JUST NOT REALLY CERTAIN THAT THIS MATCHES THE OTHER ARCHITECTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS MORE OF LIKE A CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOME BUILD AND ARCHITECTURE STYLE.SO I JUST WAS WONDERING WHY YOU'RE CHOOSING TO KIND OF GO WITH MORE OF THIS, LIKE MODERN, SLEEK, KIND OF NON CRAFTSMAN OR NON ARTS AND CRAFTS STYLE RELATED BUNGALOW TYPE ARCHITECTURE. WELL, ONE OF THE PROPERTY, ONE OF THE STRUCTURES HAS A CONTEMPORARY STRUCTURE.
THE OTHER ONE THAT HAS A MORE MODERN DOES FIT THE PROFILE WITH THE PROPERTY WEST OF US ON WEST TAYLOR. IT'S A WIDE AND IT'S A IT'S WHITE AND MAROON ON BOTH SIDES. IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET MAYBE WITHIN 0.3 MILES. SO IT'S BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PARK. IT'S ON WEST TAYLOR HEADED TOWARDS THE PARK. BUT WE'RE ALSO AWARE ONCE WE GET TO THE PLANNING AND PERMIT SECTION, THAT WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS THAT CONFORMS OR AT LEAST FITS INTO THE AREA. YES. THANK YOU. I VISITED THAT AREA TWICE ALREADY TO LOOK AT IT, AND THAT CORNER PROPERTY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE BIG ENOUGH FOR THREE BUILDINGS THIS SIZE. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW WHAT? HOW DO YOU MAKE THESE THREE BUILDINGS FIT ON THAT LOT? I'M NOT CERTAIN IF IT'S WITHIN OUR PACKAGE, BUT WE HAVE OUR SITE PLAN, AND THOSE BUILDINGS FIT WITHIN THE BUILDABLE AREA ONLY REQUEST. WE ASK FOR THE SIDE SETBACK TO GET US THERE, BUT THIS DOES FIT IN THAT AREA. SO IN ORDER IN ORDER TO DO THIS, YOU NEED THE FOUR FOOT SIDE SETBACKS. NOT TO. SO WE WOULD LIKE THAT FOR LIKE ESTHETIC PURPOSES FOR LIKE THE LAWN ON THE SIDE NOT TO BUILD. SO IT'S NOT FOR THE BUILDING STRUCTURE, IT'S FOR THE COSMETICS, YOU KNOW, TO PUT A NICE LAWN ALONG THE SIDE, NOT FOR THE BUILDING AT ALL. WE HAVE ENOUGH SQUARE FOOT SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE PROPERTY NOW FOR THE BUILDING, FOR THE STRUCTURES WE JUST WOULD LIKE. YOU HAVE ENOUGH. TO BUILD THREE HOUSES OF THIS SIZE WITH TWO FAMILIES. YES. ON THAT.
ON THAT LITTLE SPACE. YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION. COMMISSIONER STYLES YOU REFERENCED IN THE RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION. A WHITE BUILDING IS NO, NO, NOT THAT ONE. NO. THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, ACROSS THE STREET. YOU NEED TO GO FURTHER TOWARDS THE PARK. OKAY. LET ME SEE IF I CAN TELL YOU. DO YOU HAVE PICTURES OF
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THAT BUILDING? I'M JUST WONDERING. AND AM I NOT EVEN BE ON GOOGLE MAPS? BECAUSE THAT'S FAIRLY NEW. LET ME SEE. IT SHOULD BE ON ZILLOW, THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S ON SALE. OKAY. LET ME SEE IF I CAN GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE BUILDING THAT. YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO REFERENCE THE BUILDING THAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING. THAT IS IN A SIMILAR MODERN OR SLEEK KIND OF ARCHITECTURE. YEAH. HE'S LOOKING IT UP RIGHT NOW. SORRY WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT ADDRESS FOR THAT AT THE MOMENT. AND IT'S FAIRLY NEW. SO IT'S IT'S A GOOD, GOOD CHANCE. IT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON GOOGLE MAPS. OH LET'S SEE.OH YOU KNOW IT OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, I THINK STILL YOU STILL COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. BUT I'M GOING TO. YOU WANT TO FINISH WITH HER, YOU CAN GO TO SOMEONE ELSE AND I'LL WAIT FOR THEM TO PULL IT UP. OKAY? YEAH. KEEP GOING. I THINK YOU JUST ASKED. I THINK YOU JUST TURN AROUND, OKAY? AND THAT'S WHY I SAID I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THIS MAP IS. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. BUT I DON'T KNOW. NO, NOT ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. YEAH. I DON'T THINK GOOGLE MAPS HAS THAT UP AS YET. YEAH. YEAH, I KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE IT UP YET. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT. JUST FOUND THE ADDRESS. WE FOUND IT. THE ADDRESS IS 1835. 1835 TAYLOR AVENUE. CAN YOU PULL UP ON ZILLOW IF YOU PUT IT ON THE BROWSER? YEAH, PUT IT IN GOOGLE MAPS. SORRY. IT'S 1835 1835 TAYLOR AVENUE. IF YOU GO TO THE FOR SALE. ZILLOW. THERE'S A TAYLOR TAYLOR. THIS ONE SAYS TAYLOR. TAYLOR. 1835. TAYLOR OR TAYLOR, NOT JUST TAYLOR. OKAY, LET'S SEE THE REALTOR. ZILLOW. CLICK ON THIS RIGHT HERE. LET ME SEE SOMETHING BECAUSE I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. YEP. THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE. AND DO WE KNOW WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS ERECTED.
WHEN WAS THIS BUILT. THIS IS THE LAST PROBABLY LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR. OKAY. I JUST KIND OF JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS PROPERTY WAS BUILT AND, AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, APPROVED THROUGH A DIFFERENT BODY THAN OURS LONG AGO OR WHEN, WHEN WE WEREN'T HERE. I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE STYLE MATCHING THAT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE A ONE OFF WITH THIS EXAMPLE, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOULDN'T SET A PRECEDENCE FOR THE REST OF THE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST WANT TO VOICE THAT CONCERN. SURE. OKAY.
YEAH. THANK YOU. COMMISSION STYLES. COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MY CONCERN IS THAT THE INFORMATION IN THE POSTCARD WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE TIME TO REACT AND ATTEND THE OFFICIAL MEETING, WHICH IS THE SCHISM. IS THIS IS THAT CORRECT? SO ALTHOUGH THE MEETING YOU YOU WENT ON FACEBOOK, I BELIEVE THAT THE SYSTEM IS THE OFFICIAL MEETING THAT HAS TO OCCUR IN ORDER. IS THAT WHAT OKAY, SO AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS WHAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE OUR OPTIONS. IF IT WAS SENT OUT OR
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THE MEETING WAS RESCHEDULED. IS THAT ANY I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I STRUGGLED WITH THAT FOR A FEW INSTANCES. THE FIRST IS WE WE I STRUGGLE WITH THAT FOR A FEW INSTANCES BECAUSE WE APPLIED WHEN WE MET THE DEADLINE, WE HAD A DEADLINE TO SEND OUT THE POSTCARDS. WE SENT THAT OUT. AND THEN IF THE IT WAS IN THAT THING NEFARIOUS ON OUR BEHALF. SO IF USPS DIDN'T GET THEM IN TIME, THAT'S FINE. BUT IN PARTICULAR, THE CITIZENS OR THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE MOST CONCERNED WERE THE ONES THAT CALLED US FROM THE POSTCARD, AND THEY CALLED US THE NEXT DAY. SO AND I'M SORRY, I'M NOT CHALLENGING WHAT I'M. YEAH. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IN, IN ORDER WHETHER WE GAVE THE CITIZENS A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME SINCE THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE POSTCARDS UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING WAS SO THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN OVERALL, COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN MAY MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF INPUT FOR FROM ATTORNEY WIGGINS OR.DIRECTOR SMITH. SO IT APPEARS THAT THE CCIM PROCESS REQUIRES THE MAILING OF THE POSTCARDS.
IT DOES NOT. AND I'LL JUST PULL IT UP. LOOK LIKE IT REQUIRES SOME TYPE OF VERIFICATION THAT THERE HAS BEEN RECEIPT. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. YES, I THOUGHT SO, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
SO TEN DASH 2220 4.7. REQUIRES THAT ALL APPLICATIONS REGARDING REZONING, ZONING, MODIFICATIONS, VARIANCES, SPECIAL USE PERMIT SUBDIVISIONS AND OTHER RELATED LAND USE PETITIONS MUST COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING AS SET OUT IN ARTICLE L.
SO IF YOU GO TO ARTICLE L, THE NOTIFICATION SAYS ONCE AN APPLICATION IS PLACED ON THE CCIM AGENDA, ALL NOTICES SHALL BE POSTMARKED THE SAME DAY. THE APPLICATION IS SCHEDULED FOR THE CCIM TO ALLOW REASONABLE TIME FOR THE RECEIPT OF THE NOTICES PRIOR TO THE MEETING DATE. SO THAT'S AN INQUIRY TO ENSURE THAT THE POSTMARKING WAS DONE THE SAME DAY OF THE APPLICATION. ALL WRITTEN AND EMAIL NOTICES SHALL STATE THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE NATURE OF THE APPLICATION, AND THE DATE, TIME AND LOCATION OF THE CCIM. THE NOTICES SHALL PROVIDE THE ANTICIPATED DATES THAT THE APPLICATION WILL COME BEFORE YOUR BOARD, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. WRITTEN NOTICE IN THE FORM OF A POSTCARD MAILER SHALL BE MAILED TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION SEEKING A REZONING, WHICH THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT A VARIANCE TO OR FROM BP ONE ONE AND ONE TWO. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS. NOTIFICATION SHALL BE GIVEN TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000FT. I THINK HE'S THE 500FT. OF THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO APPEAR ON THE CURRENT TAX RECORDS, AS RETRIEVED BY CITY'S GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS. SO THAT'S GIS, A COPY OF THE MAILING LIST AND A POSTMARK COPY OF THE MAILER SHALL THEN BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF. AND THEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD ALSO BE GIVEN A COPY OF THE POSTCARD MAILER. AND. THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS SHALL BE ALSO GIVEN A COPY OF THE POSTCARD MAILER. SO THOSE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE EVENT, HOWEVER, AN APPLICATION IS NOT PRESENTED AT CCIM AS SCHEDULED DUE TO THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO ATTEND OR DUE TO A REQUEST FOR RESCHEDULING, IT SHALL BE THE APPLICANT'S DUTIES TO REPEAT THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS SET OUT. OKAY, IT DOESN'T HAVE.
OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW THAT DOES NOT COMPORT WITH WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO HEAR. YOU MIGHT. YOU MIGHT. I THINK IT DOES. I THINK IT SAYS THAT THEY THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, BUT THEY DID NOT GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. YEAH. SO I JUST YOU KNOW, THERE OBVIOUSLY IS NO, NO, NOTHING ABOUT MAKING SURE RESIDENTS RECEIVE IT, YOU KNOW, FIVE DAYS, THREE DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T CONTROL THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE. LORD KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE UP TO. AND BUT YEAH, THAT IS YOU KNOW, IT.
IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT HAPPENED. NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PREVENT OTHER APPLICANTS FROM
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HAVING TO GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, OR OTHER NEIGHBORS COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT RECEIVING THE POSTCARDS IN DUE TIME, OR WHAT THEY FEEL IS DUE TIME. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YES, SIR. HAVING GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS MYSELF WHEN I DID AS BUILT AN ADU IN MY BACKYARD, I WAS PROVIDED A LIST FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. EXCUSE ME, FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. WITH EVERY SINGLE ADDRESS AND EVERY SINGLE ADDRESS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, SO THAT DOCUMENTATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU? YES. YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS I JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT. OH YES.YES, THOSE DID GO OUT. CORRECT. I MEAN, YOU, YOU YOU DID HAVE ACCESS. SO YOU COULD HAVE PRINTED THE LABELS AND DONE IT LIKE VERY QUICKLY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. AND THAT IS INSOFAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE FOR CONFORMITY TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS? I LOVE THE THE PROJECT, BY THE WAY. IT'S IT'S IT'S A BEAUTIFUL A RENDITION. GOTCHA. THAT'S AS FAR AS CONFORMITY AND. AS FAR AS CONFORMITY AND ARCHITECTURE. THE CITY DOES HAVE AN ENFIELD ORDINANCE PROCESS THAT IS RESERVED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND IT DOES NOT APPLY TO MULTIFAMILY. BUT THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ASKING FOR ARCHITECTURAL CONFORMITY. SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS ARCHITECTURAL CONFORMITY OR CAN WE. DESIGN.
CORRECT. GOT YOU, GOT YOU. THANK YOU. SO TO THE APPLICANTS, WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE LOT AGAIN I KNOW YOU HAVE IT IN HERE, BUT JUST TELL ME IF YOU DON'T MIND. THE SIZE OF THE LOT IS ZERO POINT ROUGHLY 0.4 ACRES. IT'S THE ENTIRE SITE. YEAH, JUST LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE. SO IT'S LIKE A QUARTER OF AN ACRE. LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE FOR SEVEN? YEAH, CLOSE TO HALF AN ACRE AND A QUARTER. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANY CONDITIONS TO THIS AND AT WHAT ORDER? HOW OR WHAT IS THE ORDER OF ADDING THE CONDITIONS. SO IF EVERYONE IS DONE DISCUSSING. I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.
NO WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T. YEAH WE DID. YEAH WE DID. WE DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE WAS NO ONE HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH I THINK. STAFF REPORT. OKAY I'M SORRY. JUST TO GET THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. YES. OKAY. STAFF. IN REFERENCE TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1784 WAS TAYLOR AVENUE. CASE NUMBER P2025 R'S. THAT'S 002-08 APPLICANT D MUFFY CHARLTON PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED R1 A, WHICH IS OUR URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM R1 TO R3 AND CONCURRENT VARIANCES FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2065 EC TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO FOUR FEET AND A VARIANCE FROM SECTION TEN, 2010 DASH 2065 E TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT BUILDING HEIGHT TO 45FT. THE CURRENT ZONING AS STATED IS R1 A, WHICH IS OUR URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. IF YOU COULD SEE THE LIGHT BLUE HIGHLIGHT IS THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF WEST TAYLOR AND SIMS STREET. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA WILL IMPROVE HOUSING CONDITIONS AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VACANT LOTS AND VACANT HOMES. THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL INCLUDE AN ASSORTMENT OF HOUSING TYPES SUCH AS SINGLE FAMILY, TWO FAMILY, AND MULTIFAMILY. THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL RESEMBLE TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH A STREET GRID NETWORK, A TREE CANOPY, POCKET PARKS, AND WALKABLE ENVIRONMENTS. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP
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AGAIN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS OUR REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD, ALLOWING USE AND SCALE FOR 4 TO 8 UNITS PER ACRE. HOWEVER, THE EAST POINT MARTA STATION, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT LCI STUDY REFERENCED DENSITY FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS 25 TO 75 UNITS PER ACRE. WE HAVE PROVIDED A MAP FOR YOU AND IF YOU COULD SEE IN THE BOTTOM, PROBABLY FOURTH OF THE PAGE THAT RED X IS WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A MILE OF MARTA, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE DESIGNATED TRANSIT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREA, JUST FOR REFERENCE. STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING FROM R1 TO R3 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. CONDITION NUMBER ONE BUILDING DESIGN. FACADE SHALL INCORPORATE STEPPED DOWN, MODULATED OR ARTICULATION TO REDUCE PERCEIVED MASS OF THREE STORY BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO LOWER SCALE RESIDENCES. CONDITION NUMBER TWO TRAFFIC AND ACCESS. DRIVEWAY DESIGN AND INTERNAL CIRCULATION SHALL BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO MINIMIZE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON LOCAL STREETS. CONDITION NUMBER THREE COMPLIANCE WITH PLANS. THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM TO THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL OF FINAL ADJUSTMENTS. THOSE ARE STAFF'S CONDITIONS. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR STAFF REPORT. EXCEPT FOR CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, A MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND EVERGREEN PLANTING SHALL BE INSTALLED ALONG PROPERTY LINES ADJOINING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. AND LASTLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2065 EC TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO FOUR FEET. HOWEVER, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2065 E TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT. THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO 45FT. AND THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR REPORT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE HEARD FROM STAFF. YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT AND STAFF. WHAT DO I HEAR, MADAM CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND? IT HAS BEEN. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A CONDITION. SO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH A SECOND. AND SO IF THIS MOTION YOUR YOU WANT TO ADD A CONDITION TO HER MOTION. SO THAT'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. AND SO LET'S HEAR WHAT YOUR CONDITION IS. MY CONDITION IS TO ADD TO THE BUILDING DESIGN THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE BUILDINGS CONFORM TO THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT SECOND. AND SO IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, JUST THAT PORTION OF THE MOTION, WHICH IS THE CONFORMITY OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN TO THAT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOW'S THE TIME TO HAVE DISCUSSION AROUND JUST THAT. COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HEAR A DISCUSSION OR ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SECOND MOTION, WHICH IS UNIFORMITY IN THE STYLE OF THIS CONSTRUCTION TO CONFORM WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD? ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, I DO, YES, SIR. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, THERE ARE LIKE 1965, 70. SOME OF THEM ARE 1902. THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION IS NOT INCLUSIVE TO THE TODAY'S EVEN PRICE. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DEALING WITH THAT AND THEN ALSO YOU INCREASING DENSITY, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO KIND OF HAVE A BUILDING DESIGN SIMILAR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE TALKING BRICK FACADES, WE'RE TALKING MAYBE CEDAR SHINGLES, CEDAR SIDING, AND JUST NOT I THE SAME. YEAH. YOU CAN'T BUILD YOU CAN GET THIS SAME SORRY. YOU CAN GET THE SAME FEEL WITH MODERN MATERIALS USING. YOU HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER TALKING AT THE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. GO AHEAD. OH I'M I'M FINISHED. I'M ALLOWED IN ILLINOIS TO GIVE ME HER COMMENTARY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SORRY. YOU CAN USE, YOU KNOW A BOARD AND THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. OUR HOUSE IS BOTH BOARD AND BAT AND AND PLANK[02:00:04]
SIDING. AND IT'S BOTH MATERIALS ARE CEMENT. THE RANGE OF HOMES IN CENTRAL PARK DOES INDEED GO FROM, YOU KNOW, 1900S TURN OF THE PREVIOUS CENTURY, ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE 1960S, HOWEVER, WITHIN THAT WIDE BUILD, YOU HAVE COTTAGES, YOU HAVE VICTORIAN STYLE, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME RANCH HOMES. BUT IT IS NOT ENTIRELY DEPENDENT ON, YOU KNOW, BRICK FACADES ON, YOU KNOW, ENTIRELY CRAFTSMAN STYLE. THERE IS A WIDE RANGE OF HOME STYLES THAT CAN BE BUILT WITH MODERN MATERIALS. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT LIMITED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST METALS. AND USING THE MODERN, MODERN STYLES. I THINK THE FACT THAT THAT HOUSE ON WEST TAYLOR IS STILL ON THE MARKET A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AFTER COMPLETION AND HAS NOT SOLD. I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION STYLE IS REALLY FEELS RIGHT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT IS BATTENS, AM I CORRECT? THE HOUSE THAT DIDN'T SELL? IS THAT BATTENS OKAY. I'M SORRY. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS HAVE ONE DISCUSSION AT A TIME. AND THEN ONCE A COMMISSIONER COMPLETES THEIR STATEMENT, THEN WE CAN GO INTO ANOTHER COMMISSIONER.THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, HAVE YOU FINISHED? THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THE STYLE THAT'S NOT SOLD IS IT. BATTENS. BOARD AND BAT. YEAH IT'S BOARD AND BATS RIGHT. YEAH. BOARD AND BATTEN. YEAH.
YOU HAVE THE FLAT CEMENT BOARD OF THE FRONT FACADE DOING THE FULL VERTICAL LENGTH. AND THEN YOU TAKE A BAT THAT GOES OVER THE SEAM BETWEEN THE FLAT BOARDS. AND IT PROVIDES THAT ARCHITECTURAL RELIEF AND COVERS THE SEAM. AND ON PART OF OUR HOUSE IS BOARD AND BAT. IT HAS THAT. IT LOOKS VERY NICE, VERY ELEGANT. ANOTHER PART IS THE ORIGINAL CEMENT FIBERBOARD THAT WAS USED IN AS A PLANK SIDING. SO AND THE HOUSE I CURRENTLY OCCUPY, YOU KNOW, IS BUILT AROUND 19. THERE'S THERE SEEMS TO BE A DISCREPANCY. ONE RECORD SAYS 1950, ANOTHER SAYS 1930.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY IS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT RETAINING THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN A BIG CONCERN WITH A LOT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT GOING ON IS IS IT GOING TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD? AND THIS COULD FIT IN BEAUTIFULLY. AND USE THE CURRENT ARCHITECTURAL. MODELS OF THE CURRENT HOMES, BOTH HISTORIC AND MORE RECENT, AND IT WILL FIT IN VERY NICELY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTED WORDINGS FOR STAFF ON THE CONDITION? BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO GO AND RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR SMITH. STAFF HAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR CONDITION. YES, SIR. I GUESS IT WOULD BE CONDITION NUMBER FIVE WOULD BE. THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT FOLLOWS THE CITY OF EAST POINT'S ENFIELD. PROCEDURES. AND REQUIREMENTS.
AND THAT PROCESS REQUIRES FOR THEM TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT. IT REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL MEETING FOR THE INPUT, AND IT REQUIRES AN INVENTORY FROM 13 PROPERTIES WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT. THERE'S A LISTING OF CRITERIA POINTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE FOLLOWED IN REFERENCE TO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOMES AND ABIDING BY WHAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE IN THE VICINITY. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. LET ME JUST ADD, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WHILE THAT CONDITION ADDRESSES THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND IT BRINGS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE COUNT OF THE 13 PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT CONDITION SHOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THE COUNT TO START WITH THE ONES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT. SO JUST BE PARTICULAR IN YOUR VERBIAGE
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THAT THE 13 IS IT 13 ON BOTH SIDES. IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S TWO ON EACH SIDE. IT'S FOUR IN THE FRONT AND FIVE IN THE BACK. YEAH. COUNTS BE EXCLUSIVE OF THE ATTACHED UNITS OF THIS PROJECT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. YOU CAN'T START THE COUNT WITH THE ONE. SO WHERE ARE WE NOW WITH OUR. WITH THE MOTION I KNOW WE HAVE ONE ON THE FLOOR FOR THE. SO THE APPROVAL WAS WELL NOT NOT THE APPROVAL. BUT WE HAVE ONE ON THE FLOOR FOR ADDING THE CONDITION THAT THAT.AMENDMENT THAT WE REQUIRE TO. LET REQUIRE TO CONFORM TO THE ENFIELD DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, PROVIDED THAT THE. COUNT FOR THE HOUSES NOT INCLUDE THEIR UNITS? YES, I THINK THAT IS VERY ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE IT ALSO GIVES THE NEIGHBORS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO TO WEIGH IN. AND THAT. DID WE GET A SECOND ON THAT? I THINK COMMISSIONER STYLES THAT CONDITION AS WELL.
OKAY. SO NOW YOU NEED A VOTE ON THE CONDITION TO BE ADDED TO THE ORIGINAL WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER CHAPMAN. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF ADDING THAT CONDITION OF THE THE DEVELOPMENT ALL EYES COMMISSIONERS. ALL IN FAVOR OF ADDING THAT CONDITION, THE ENFIELD CONDITION TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS CAN LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I. I OPPOSE THIS HEARING. NONE. THE CONDITION WILL BE ADDED FOR THE ENFIELD, WHICH WILL GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK OUT AND HEAR THIS CASE. SO NOW YOU'RE MOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR INCLUDES CONDITIONS, RIGHT? YES. AND SO THAT IS ALL OF THE ONES THAT STAFF PRESENTED PLUS THE ADDED.
IF WE JUST ADD THE ENFIELD REQUIREMENT ON THE. CONDITIONS. SO NOW WE'RE VOTING ON THE FIVE CONDITIONS. WHAT DO I HEAR COMMISSIONERS. YES. APPROVE. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONS OKAY. SO I. I, I LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE WORD I FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE FIVE CONDITIONS, I DO I HEAR ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. THE FIVE CONDITIONS ARE APPROVED AND ACCEPTED. THE PROJECT WITH THE FIVE CONDITIONS. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE JUST HOLDING ON TO NOW. YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. YES. SO THAT CONCLUDES EVERYTHING. YES, YES.
THANK YOU. NOW I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT DOES THE FIVE CONDITIONS DO IN GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY DO FOR THE PROJECT? DO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE US? NO. SO THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS THE ONLY PORTION OF THOSE CONDITIONS THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE COMMUNITY INPUT. I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT WORKS. I CAN LOOK IT UP REALLY QUICKLY, BUT I'M SURE PLANNING AND ZONING WILL HELP THEM GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS BEFORE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY. IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE APPLICANT, UNLESS YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION, CAN YOU JUST SEND THAT TO US? YEAH. DEVELOPMENT. YEAH.
ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO KNOW IN ADDITION TO THAT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE HAVE ANY MORE WORK. WE JUST NEED TO GO. I MEAN, WE THEY WILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL. NO, COMMISSIONER. I MEAN, DIRECTOR SMITH, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THE ENFIELD PROCESS, ONCE THEY GO TO COUNCIL AND IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, ONCE THEY COME FOR PERMITS, IT WILL TRIGGER THEM TO GO THROUGH THE ENFIELD PROCESS. AS WE REVIEW THE PERMIT FOR BUILDING. SO WE IT WOULD BE TRIGGERED AT THAT POINT. OKAY. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS BODY HAS NO MORE WORK TO DO ON THAT. YOU'RE DONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE PROJECT AND THE COMING BEFORE US. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS AND ENTERTAINING US IN THE TIME IT TOOK TO GET TO
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YOU. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF? STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE HAVE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS. CAN YOU REMIND[02:10:03]
US AGAIN ABOUT A MEETING THAT WE ARE COMING BEFORE YOU IN OCTOBER? YOU'RE PLANNING SOMETHING FOR US TO COME TO. IS THAT CORRECT? WE ARE NOT PLANNING IT. THAT WAS INITIATED FROM ANOTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE CAN LOOK FOR THAT. COMMISSIONERS, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND. SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOTION. AND SECOND THAT WE ADJOURN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE K