Oct 20, 2025 City Council

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OCTOBER 20TH MEETING OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER. FRIEDLY HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. ALRIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER. COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MITCHELL. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN ROGERS. MAYOR.

HOLIDAY. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. OUR SERGEANT AT ARMS. OOPS. SORRY. CAN WE HAVE. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE INVOCATION BY TESTIMONY. PASTOR MOBLEY FROM VICTORY BAPTIST CHURCH, IF YOU CAN, PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. LET US PRAY. WE THANK YOU AGAIN THAT WE HAVE LIFE AND THE BREATH OF LIFE.

AND YOU'VE GIVEN US OPPORTUNITY TO USE OUR GIFTS, TALENTS AND SKILLS TO BLESS YOUR PEOPLE.

BLESS OUR MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES AS THEY DO THE SERVICE TO HELP US AS CITIZENS AND OUR CUSTOMERS WHO COME TO THIS GREAT CITY. BLESSED IN THE NAME OF OUR CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

[V. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS - Capt. Robinson]

[VI. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]

[VII. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES]

I KNOW YOU WERE ALREADY HERE, ATTORNEY WIGGINS. I WAS TRYING TO LOAD UP MY COMPUTER TO PULL UP THE RULE. BUT IF YOU COULD READ THE RULES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALL ZONING MATTERS TONIGHT. SO IF YOU COULD READ THE PUBLIC HEARING RULES. EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO YOUR PUBLIC HEARING RULES ARE FOUND IN SECTION TEN, DASH 2219, PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. BEFORE ADOPTING ANY CHANGE TO THE ZONING MAPS OR THE TEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING HELD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHERE A RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE ON THE PETITION. PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE WILL INTRODUCE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. STAFF WILL THEN BE CALLED UPON TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUMMARIZE THE STAFF'S WRITTEN REPORT.

PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OR APPLICANTS DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS, PROVIDED THAT EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SPEAKER FOR A SIDE, THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED TO EACH

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[VIII.1. Rezoning Application for Case #P2025RZ-001-08 to Rezone Property From E-I (Educational Institutional) to M-I ( Medical Institutional) Zoning District With Concurrent Variance Located at 0 Norman Berry Drive PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED]

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN, MR. JONES. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COME FORWARD TO WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL, KIMBERLY SMITH, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. AND WE HAVE ALSO WITH US MR. LEE KELLY, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM, PROPERTY LOCATED AT ZERO NORMAN BERRY DRIVE CASE KNOWN AS P2025. THAT'S 001 WITH ASSOCIATED CASE P202500108. THE APPLICANT IS CMC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. THE REQUEST THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM. E EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONAL TO MI MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE REQUEST IS CONSOLIDATE THREE PARCELS WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE TO REDUCE REQUIRED PARKING. CASE TYPE IS A VARIANCE IS A REZONING WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCES. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED E.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH PROVIDES FOR FUTURE PLANNING OF ASSORTMENTS OF HOUSING TYPES SUCH AS SINGLE FAMILY, TWO FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REZONING FROM E! I EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONAL TO MI MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT TO CONSOLIDATE THREE PARCELS WITH THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE AND TO REDUCE REQUIRED PARKING. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT AND A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? FIRST OF ALL, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES. APPLICANT CAN COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

WHAT'S THE. I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP ON MY COMPUTER AGAIN. WHAT'S THE RULE? THE THE ZONING, PUBLIC HEARING TEN DASH TWO ZERO 20 1920 2019. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK FIRST. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE ANY INFORMATION WITH THE COUNCIL. YES. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT. MY NAME IS SEAN BELL. MY ADDRESS IS 1140 ANSELL LANE, NORTHWEST ATLANTA, 30318. THE NAME OF MY FIRM IS CMC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. I AM PRINCIPAL OF THE FIRM AND WE BASICALLY SPECIALIZE IN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, EVERYTHING RANGING FROM SENIOR HOUSING TO MARKET RATE, CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENTS AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT HOUSING. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE HAVE PURCHASED THIS LAND SOME TIME AGO, AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO TIE ALL THE ZONING TOGETHER AS PER OUR REQUEST, AND THEN LOOK TO DEVELOP SORT OF A CAMPUS SETTING WHERE WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS THERE. ONE WOULD SERVE SENIORS ASSISTED LIVING AND ONE WOULD BE INDEPENDENT SENIOR LIVING. AND THEN TO REALLY LOOK TO IMPROVE WHAT'S THERE NOW, WHICH IS JUST VACANT LAND. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS WITH THE EXISTING CITY PLANNING FOLKS AND JUST SORT OF WORKING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER HERE. WE'VE ALSO ACQUIRED SOME ADDITIONAL LAND FROM THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, A RIGHT OF WAY, THE OLD WASHINGTON ROAD PIECE THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THIS PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR SOME PROPER INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE SITE, AND THEN TO ALSO HELP TO BUILD OUT SOME OF THE CAMPUS FEEL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE RESIDENTS THERE. SO WE'VE BEEN

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ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, ERNESTINE PITTMAN, EASTPOINTE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. ONE AND TWO THE SAME. BECAUSE HERE HE TALKS ABOUT 138 UNITS ON TWO. AND I THOUGHT WE WERE ON ONE. QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH YOUR COMMENTS. WELL, I'M NOT ABOUT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF, BUT I READ TWO THAT I THOUGHT HE ADDRESSED. ONE DID NOT. SO WE'RE ON ONE NOW, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, I'LL COME BACK FOR TWO. PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST FOR TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM E-1 EDUCATION INSTITUTIONAL TO M II MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL, 080 NORMAN BERRY DRIVE. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER BUCK. YES, MA'AM.

I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP THE MATTER FOR DISCUSSION. THAT MOTION? YES. MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER BUCK. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING CHAIR, PLEASE? MR. US PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR OR CHAIR? DIRECTOR. OKAY. HOW YOU DOING? DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE? OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A THE MAP IN RED AT THE BOTTOM. DO WE HAVE A ZOOMED IN PICTURE OF THAT ONE. DO WE HAVE A BROADER PICTURE. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SEE IS HOW CLOSE IS IT TO THE HOSPITAL. I THINK SOMETHING. AND MAY I HAVE THE APPLICANT APPROACH PLEASE. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.

IS IT THE GREEN SPACE? OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. THE ONLY DOES IT. OKAY. I

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OKAY. AND JUST SO WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE THE RENT FOR THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE AT WHAT COST AND HOW MANY WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS? WELL, ONE BUILDING WILL BE RETARGETING TO THE ASSISTED LIVING AND ONE WILL BE INDEPENDENT LIVING. OKAY, SO ON THE INDEPENDENT SIDE, THOSE ARE PROBABLY AROUND 14 1300 PER UNIT. WE'RE NOT TOTALLY 100% SET AS THINGS ARE EVOLVING, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THE DESIGN ELEMENTS. SO I THINK YOUR QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, I MIGHT BE FOR THE SECOND ONE. SO THEY FIRST HAD TO DO THE REZONING TO THEN BE ABLE TO MOVE TO THE SECOND. OKAY. THAT ACTUALLY DEALS WITH THE UNITS OKAY. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

[VIII.2. Use Permit Request for Case #P2025U-001-08 To Allow Development of 138 Units for Assisted Living and Senior Living In the M-I Medical Institutional Zoning District PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED]

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IT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE USE PERMIT FOR TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF 138 UNITS FOR ASSISTED LIVING AND SENIOR LIVING AND THE MI MEDICAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT AT ZERO NORMAN BERRY DRIVE? THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION CAN GET A MOTION TO CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS MEMBER? BUTLER. MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING. MOTION. YES IT IS.

IT'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I NEED. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU. IF I MAY HAVE THE APPLICANT APPROACH ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE TO KEEP GETTING UP NOW.

THANK YOU. MR. BELL. I'M SORRY TO HAVE YOU KEEP COMING UP AND DOWN. IT'S OKAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR YOUR WHAT IS THE EVALUATION OF THE PROPERTY? HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE OUR CONSTRUCTION COST? WE'RE ABOUT $40 MILLION. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR CAP RATE WILL BE AT YOUR CURRENT RENTS? DID YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE? I THINK WE'VE BEEN MODELING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SIX AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DO YOU MIND DISCLOSING WHO YOU PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM? IT WAS OWNED BY THE CHURCH. AND THE NAME ESCAPES ME, BUT IT WAS BISHOP GUTHRIE'S CHURCH. OKAY. SO WE PURCHASED FROM PURCHASED IT FROM HIM AND BUT WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL. OKAY. SO WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH CHURCHES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO WE'RE JUST SORT OF CONTINUING IN THAT VEIN. BUT WE ARE THE PRINCIPALS IN CHARGE OF THE SITE. AND WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE $40 MILLION INVESTMENT IN EASTPOINTE. I HOPE EVERYTHING GOES WELL FOR YOU. WE REALLY WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM, COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU.

SO NOW MY QUESTION, YOU SAID THE RATE WILL BE 14 FOR THE. FOR WE'RE WE'RE REMODELING RIGHT NOW ABOUT 1400 FOR THE INDEPENDENT SENIOR UNITS. AND WHAT AND WHAT WOULD BE THE RENT.

THE RATE FOR THE OTHER THE INDEPENDENT. THE OTHER SIDE. YEAH THE ASSISTED. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A MORE COMPLICATED PROCESS BECAUSE IT INVOLVES SERVICES THAT ARE WELL BEYOND JUST YOUR TYPICAL RENTAL. SO WE'RE SORT OF WORKING THROUGH

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WE'VE WE'VE SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT POTENTIALLY ACCESSING THE THEIR WAIT LIST FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR, FOR UNITS. SO WE'VE SPOKEN TO MICHAEL SPANN A FEW TIMES OKAY. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE WAIT LIST THEN THAT MEANS THAT THEY WELL, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT.

THAT MEANS THAT THEY COULDN'T PAY THE $1,400, BUT THAT MEANS THAT YOU WILL BE GETTING SOME TYPE OF ASSISTANCE FOR THEIR RENT. THEY WOULDN'T BE PAYING THE WHOLE $1,400, RIGHT? IF THEY HAVE PORTABLE VOUCHERS, THEN THEY WOULD BE PAYING A SMALL PORTION OF THE RENT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE PAID BY VOUCHERS. OKAY. YES. AND HOW MANY TOTAL FOR BOTH SIDES? HOW MANY TOTAL UNIT AND WHAT WHAT IS THE SPACE OF THE THE UNITS, THE UNIT SIZES FOR THE FOR THE THE ASSISTED LIVING ONES ARE. THEY'RE ABOUT 300 PLUS SQUARE FEET. I'M SORRY FOR THE INDEPENDENT UNITS. AND THE ASSISTED LIVING IS ARE LARGER BECAUSE THEY THEY WILL HAVE LIKE TWO TWO RESIDENTS SHARE. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME UNITS THAT ARE TWO BEDROOM UNITS. AND THOSE ARE ABOUT 800 PLUS SQUARE FEET LIKE 850 FOR SOMETHING AROUND THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES. MISTER BELL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN. AS COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER HAS STATED FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE JUST ADOPTED OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT NOTED IS THAT WE WERE LAGGING BEHIND IN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND VARIETY OF HOUSING. AND SO THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WILL DOVETAIL UP INTO THAT, THAT FINDING BASED ON THAT, THAT PLAN. AND SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT INVESTMENT AND FOR BRINGING ADDITIONAL HOUSING TO THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND IF I MAY MAKE A COMMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED ME TO TO EASTPOINTE IS SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S LIKE A HIDDEN GEM, RIGHT? JUST FROM A LOCATION INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, I THINK IT HAS ALL THE MAKINGS OF, YOU KNOW, SOME REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVER FAMILIES. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST PROJECT THAT THAT I DO HERE. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THOSE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? AND IF SO, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS, YOU'RE SITTING NEXT TO ME. CAN PROBABLY READ THE ORDINANCE. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVED THAT WE GRANT USE PERMIT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING 138 UNITS OF SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING LOCATED AT ZERO NORMAN BERRY DRIVE IN THE MI MEDICAL INSTITUTION ZONING DISTRICT. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING

[VIII.3. P2025RZ-001-02 Rezoning Request for Property Located at 1784 West Taylor Ave From R-1A Urban Residential Zoning District to R-3 Multi Family Residential Zoning District With Concurrent Variance (0.398 +/- Acres) (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED)]

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THE PROPERTY LOT SIZE IS 0.38 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES. THE FUTURE LAND USE DOES THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATE THE DENSITY FOR THIS AREA? BETWEEN 4 TO 8 UNITS PER ACRE, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR 1.52 TO 3.04 UNITS ON THE SITE, AND BASED ON THE MADA TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT LCI PROJECT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY IN 2012, IT WOULD ALLOW UP TO 9.5 TO 28.5 UNITS ON THIS SIZE ACRE, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER A QUARTER OF AN ACRE. STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING FROM R1 TO R3. THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. I'LL READ THE CONDITIONS INTO THE RECORD. CONDITION NUMBER ONE BUILDING DESIGN FACADE SHALL INCORPORATE STEPPED DOWN AND MODULATION OR ARTICULATION TO REDUCE THE PERCEIVED MASS OF THREE STORY BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO LOWER RESIDENCES. CONDITION NUMBER TWO TRAFFIC AND ACCESS, DRIVEWAY DESIGN AND INTERNAL CIRCULATION SHALL BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO MINIMIZE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON LOCAL STREETS.

CONDITION NUMBER THREE, IN REFERENCE TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLANS, THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM TO THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL AND FINAL ADJUSTMENTS. CONDITION NUMBER FOUR LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING.

THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH EVERGREEN PLANTINGS SHALL BE INSTALLED ALONG PROPERTY LINES ADJOINING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX POINT, CHAPTER SIX LANDSCAPE DRAWINGS. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE NOTATION IN REFERENCE TO PLANNING COMMISSION. AND IT IS LISTED INSIDE OF THE ORDINANCE. AS FAR AS CONDITION NUMBER ONE, WE WANT TO ADD THAT.

THE APPLICANT SHALL GO THROUGH INFILL ORDINANCE PROCESS PURSUANT TO REGULATIONS AS OUTLINED IN ARTICLE J INFILL. AND THAT'S ADDED TO CONDITION NUMBER ONE BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONDITIONS. THAT CONCLUDES EXCUSE ME, IN REFERENCE TO THE VARIANCE FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2065 EC TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO FOUR FEET. STAFF HAS STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN REFERENCE TO THE VARIANCE FOR FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2065 EA TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT TO 45FT. STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND DENIAL. THAT CONCLUDES OUR REPORT. THANK YOU.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1784 WEST TAYLOR AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, TO R-3 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TIMOTHY CHARLTON AND MY CURRENT ADDRESS IS 1370 GEORGIA AVE, EASTPOINTE. WE ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR AFTER CAREFUL STUDY AND CONSIDERATION OF EASTPOINTE'S COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, URBAN AGRICULTURE PLAN AND HOUSING PLAN FOR THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS. SUBSEQUENT TO PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE ATTENDED MORE THAN HALF OF THE CENTER PARK COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHICH IS WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. THE REASON WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS REDEVELOPMENT IS JUST GIVEN THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS. WE THINK THAT IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRUDENT TO OFFER HOMES FOR FIRST TIME FAMILIES AT A LOWER PRICE POINT BY DOING A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WILL HELP THEM OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS WITH DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT AS AS OF UNIT SIX THAT I WILL BE RESIDING ON THAT. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M JUST DEVELOPING OUTSIDE, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE MY PERSONAL RESIDENCE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1784 WEST TAYLOR AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN

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MUFFY CHARLTON. MURPHY. MR. MURPHY, YOU CAN SIT RIGHT DOWN THE FRONT ROW SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TOO FAR. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1784 WEST TAYLOR AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO R-3 MULTIFAMILY.

ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1784 WEST TAYLOR AVENUE FROM R ONE, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO R-3 MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT? GOOD EVENING AGAIN, ERNESTINE PITTMAN, EASTPOINTE. I HOPE WE ARE NOT OPENING UP OUR CITY TO ANY FIELD, TOWN OR MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS WITH NO SPACE FOR ANY RECREATIONAL OR PLAYGROUNDS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. NOW, WE DON'T NEED ANY MATCHBOXES. WE'RE ALREADY HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MULTIFAMILY UNITS NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF, OVERPRICED AND.

ALL THAT. WE'RE SELLING THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING OVER THERE, LET IT BE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE AND NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST THROWN UP AND SAID, OKAY, HERE, YOU TOWNHOUSES, WHAT ARE THESE TOWNHOUSES HAVE IN THEM? HOW MANY UNITS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THERE? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN THERE? THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOR ADULTS ONLY. WE NEED CHILDREN IN THIS POINT. SO WE NEED MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN EAST POINT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE CLOSING SCHOOLS. SO BEFORE WE START COMING UP WITH BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO EXCLUDE FAMILIES. NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE THERE ARE HOMES WHERE CHILDREN MIGHT BE. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS TOO. YOU KNOW, OUR HOUSE IS NOT NECESSARILY A HOME, AND WE OUGHT TO BE BUILDING HOMES IN EAST POINT. MY STREAK IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE. ANYBODY COME THIS WEEK, SOMEBODY ELSE COME NEXT MONTH. HOMES, WE HAVE ENOUGH RENTALS. WE NEED HOME OWNERSHIP. AND WE NEED HOMES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GROW UP IN THEM, RAISE A FAMILY IN THEM AND NOT JUST HAVE SOMETHING THAT MATCHBOX, BUT YOU CAN BARELY TURN AROUND IN THEM. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE STORAGE UNITS TO STORE YOUR WINTER CLOTHES IN WHEN SUMMERTIME COMES, OR YOUR SUMMER CLOTHES IN WHEN WINTERTIME COMES. WE DON'T NEED YOU OUT THERE TRYING TO GO THROUGH THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE SPACE INSIDE THERE. THESE MATCHBOX KITCHEN DINING AREAS, BEDROOM AREAS, PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER AND WE CAN DO BETTER HERE IN EAST POINT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1784 WEST TAYLOR AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, TO R THREE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION TO CLOSE. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER NOT ON THIS ISSUE. DISCUSSION ON. OH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER YES, MA'AM. MAY I PLEASE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REZONING OF THIS ISSUE? WEST AVENUE. THAT'S YOUR MOTION? YES. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. YES, YES. I'M SORRY. NO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I'M COMING. I GOT COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER THAN YOU. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER AND COUNCILMEMBER COMING. THANK YOU.

YIELD TO COUNCILMEMBER. COMING. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER. YES, MA'AM. I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER I'VE JUST CALLED YOU TO SPEAK. YES, MA'AM. I

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COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, MA'AM. MAY I HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION? MAYBE YOU COULD STAY AT THE MICROPHONE. ACCORDING TO THE SLIDES AND THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF, THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND STAFF TO DENY. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. IT WAS APPROVAL OF THE SETBACK. DENIAL OF THE HEIGHT, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT VARIANCE. AND SO MY CLARIFICATION. SO THEN IN THE ORDINANCE, THE VERBIAGE IN THE ORDINANCE, THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE IS RELATING TO THE SETBACK AND NOT THE HEIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT. YES OKAY. BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT JUST SAYS CONCURRENT VARIANCE. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CLARITY AROUND THAT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IF WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE THEN IT COULD INCLUDE THE HEIGHT BECAUSE THAT WAS A PART OF THE APPLICATION.

IN SECTION ONE OF THE ORDINANCE. IT INDICATES THE CONCURRENT VARIANCE FOR SECTION TEN DASH 2065 SEC. TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO FOUR FEET, AND FROM TEN, 20, 65 TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT, THE VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT TO 45FT HAS BEEN DENIED.

OKAY. THE REZONING APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. WITH THAT, I HAVE A MOTION. TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. YES.

TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO COME TO YOU ON DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER.

THERE'S A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. DISCUSSION. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNITS. AND AGAIN CAN YOU SAY STATE HOW MANY UNITS IT WILL BE AND WHAT WILL BE INCLUDED. EACH UNIT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 2500FT■!S, WHICH S MADE UP OF THREE BEDROOMS, THREE BATHROOMS WITH A SEPARATE FLEX SPACE THAT CAN BE USED AS AN OFFICE OR PLAYROOM FOR CHILDREN AS WELL. THEY'LL ALL BE A LAUNDRY. THERE'LL BE A ONE CAR GARAGE, AS WELL AS LABELLA'S LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN. SO EACH UNIT WILL HAVE THREE BEDROOMS, THREE BEDROOMS, THREE AND A HALF BATHROOMS, A FLEX ROOM. SO WILL THE BATHROOMS BE IN EACH ROOM? TWO ROOMS WILL HAVE EN SUITE BATHROOMS, ONE ONE BATHROOM, ONE ROOM WILL NOT HAVE AN EN SUITE BATHROOM. SO YOU HAVE THREE BEDROOMS, THREE AND A HALF BATHROOMS. THE HOT BATHROOM IS NEAR THE KITCHEN. THERE'S NO ROOM THERE. THEN THERE'S SO THE ROOM SO THEY WILL HAVE HALF BATHROOMS IN TWO OF THE ROOMS. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE EACH BEDROOM WILL HAVE A FULL BATHROOM, SO EACH BEDROOM WILL HAVE A FULL BATHROOM. THERE'S THREE BEDROOMS, TWO WILL HAVE EN SUITES. SO THE THEY'LL HAVE A FULL BATHROOM IN THE ROOM.

THEN THERE'LL BE ONE BATHROOM THAT WILL NOT HAVE A BATHROOM IN THE ROOM. SO YOU'LL HAVE TO WALK TO THAT ONE. AND THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE HALF BATH. SO. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE LIKE IS IT GOING TO BE. PEOPLE ACTUALLY PURCHASING IT, OR IS IT GOING TO BE WHERE PEOPLE RENT THE ROOMS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. THESE ARE ROOM WILL HAVE A BATHROOM.

SORRY, THESE ARE HOMES FOR SALE. SO EN SUITE JUST MEANS INSTEAD OF COMING OUT OF YOUR ROOM TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, YOU HAVE A BATHROOM IN YOUR ROOM FOR CONVENIENCE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S A WHICH IS NORMAL AND APPARENT WITH HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT RECENTLY.

I YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE PRICE

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HOMESTAY IS ALLOWED IN OUR ONE. YES. IS RL LIMITED. R1 AND RL ARE THE ONLY ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR YOU TO RENT OUT YOUR ENTIRE HOME WITHOUT YOU NOT LIVING THERE, RIGHT? AND SO OUR THREE AND OUR TWO, I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP, ALLOWS FOR IT ALLOWS FOR WHOLE HOUSE AND HOMESTAY. ATTORNEY. EXCEPTION. YEAH. I WAS TRYING TO GO TO MY FIRE. I SHOULD HAVE JUST WENT TO THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. SO. SHROPSHIRE, YOU INDICATED YOU'D LIKE TO RESTRICT THE. WHAT WAS THE CONDITION AGAIN? RESTRICT THE ROOMS BEING RENTED OUT. SO THERE'S A MOTION TO ADD. A CONDITION TO PREVENT RENTAL OF ROOMS IN THESE UNITS. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? SHROPSHIRE. NO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SHROPSHIRE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN ROGERS. YES. THE MOTION FAILED. ALL RIGHT. WE SO I JUST TREATED THAT AS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I'M SORRY. FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING ON THE FLOOR. I SHOULD HAVE SAID I WAS TREATING IT AS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. BUT YEAH, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE YOU DIDN'T HAVE A MAIN MOTION ON THE FLOOR, A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. YET THIS WAS DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO WAIVE FIRST READING. OKAY. SO YOU JUST NEED TO GET A MOTION ON THE ON THE MAIN WHICH RIGHT THERE WAS A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. THERE WAS A SECOND. AND THEN WE WERE ON DISCUSSION. AND THEN THERE WAS A MOTION MADE THAT'S BEEN ENTERTAINED. SO WE'RE BACK ON THE MAIN MOTION OF WAIVING THE FIRST READING. CORRECT. AND IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. YEAH. THIS WAY. THE FIRST READING. I'M SORRY. CORRECT. NO ROLL CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL SHROPSHIRE. COUNCILMEMBER FREELY. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS.

AYE. COUNCILMEMBER. COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER. MITCHELL. COUNCILMEMBER. BUTLER. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER. MARK ROGERS. YES. THE MOTION PASS. EXCUSE ME. THE. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE THAT AMENDS THE

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CONDITIONS, I THINK. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MY COLLEAGUE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR RETICENCE IS, BUT BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RENT OUT ROOMS ANYWAY. PLUS, EAST POINT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ROOMING HOUSES. SO THEY ARE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PREVENT. SO I THINK THE. INFORMATION SHARED BY STAFF IS THAT HOMESTAY AND WHOLE HOUSE LODGING, WHICH ARE OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCES, ARE ALLOWED IN R2 AND R3, WHICH THIS HAS BEEN. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THIS TOO. IS THAT CORRECT, MISS SMITH? THAT'S CORRECT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL APPLICATION THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S PERMITTED WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT. YES IT IS. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER, ANYTHING ELSE? YES. I JUST THEY CAN RENT OUT THE HOUSE FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT THEY CAN'T RENT OUT THE ROOM SEPARATELY. CORRECT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. IF THEY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T ALLOW FOR RENTING ROOMS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A ROOMING HOUSE. BUT THE RENTING OF THE ROOMS WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE TIME THAT THEY STAY IN OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. IF YOU SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE BASED ON ANY AMOUNT OF TIME UNDER 29 DAYS, ANYTHING UNDER OVER 29 DAYS IS CONSIDERED A LEASE. WE ALLOWED IF YOU IF YOU STAY IN THE HOME, YOU HAVE TO STAY IN ORDER TO LEASE A ROOM. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR US TO LEASE OUT SEPARATE ROOMS WITHOUT SOMEONE BEING IN THE HOME THAT LIVES AND OCCUPIES IN THEIR HOME. IF IT'S LESS THAN 29 DAYS AND THEY ARE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE, ANYTHING OVER THE 29 DAYS WOULD BE LONG TERM AND IT WOULD FALL UNDER RENTAL LEASING. OKAY, I'M JUST GOING TO STOP RIGHT NOW.

COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. THAT IS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND TO KNOW THAT EACH ROOM WILL HAVE A RESTROOM. THE CITY ALREADY HAS HOUSES OR PLACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY RENTING ROOMS THAT'S NOT REGISTERED WITH THE CITY, AND I KNOW TWO OF THEM THAT I'VE SAID ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WHAT THEY WERE DOING. NOT SAYING THAT THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN IN THIS SITUATION, WHAT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE PUT SOME TYPE OF PROTECTIVE AROUND THAT. BUT YOU ALL ARE SO GUNG HO ON GOING AGAINST WHAT IS WHAT IS RIGHT AND GIVING UP YOUR RIGHT FOR WRONG. THIS COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AND I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE REST OF THE ORDINANCE, THAT MY MOTION INCLUDES THE CONDITIONS, AS STATED BY STAFF, AND I DON'T SEE THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT IN THE ORDINANCE. AND SO IF IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT, THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE RECORD, THAT THAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING. SO I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO ASK IF THE SECOND STILL STANDS. SO THE. THE ORDINANCE HAS CONDITIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR IN IT AND IT DENIES THE VARIANCE. ARE WE STILL ON THAT ONE. YES. YEAH. IT'S ON PAGE TWO OF SEVEN. THAT'S DIFFERENT ORDINANCE. OKAY. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU I SEE THAT PAGE TWO.

ALL RIGHT. IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE DEFINES A DWELLING UNIT AS ONE OR MORE

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COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER. ATKINS. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCILMEMBER.

MITCHELL. COUNCILMEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCILMEMBER. MARTIN. ROGERS. NO. THE MOTION PASSED. THANK

[IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS.

THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER. SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITY SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE FOREGOING. MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU MAY CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER FIRST. WE HAVE MISS BARBARA BOYCE.

THERE YOU GO. YES. MY NAME IS BARBARA BOYCE AND I LIVE AT 1356 SAINT MICHAEL AVENUE, COLONIAL HILLS SUBDIVISION. AND I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS TRYING TO GET MY STREET PAID AND NEW SIDEWALKS. WE HAVE ROCKS ON OUR SIDEWALK THAT WAS DONE IN 1940, AND NOW IT'S 2025. AND THIS IS NOT ALONG STREET. WE HAVE THAT SEVEN HOUSES ON THE STREET. SO THEY DID DO THE THE MAIN STREET. THEY PAVED IT BUT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO MY STREET. SO I AM ASKING AND FRIEND THAT YOU ALL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND PRAISE MY STREET, THAT IT LOOK LIKE IT'S IN PART OF A SUBDIVISION, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T.

SO THAT IS MY COMMITMENT AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL LISTEN AND HAVE MY STREET PAY THE SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS ERNESTINE PITTMAN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. THIS IS QUEEN ERNESTINE DE PITTMAN. I'M SPEAKING THERE AS A RESIDENT, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AND FORMER MAYOR. THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT IS NOT THE COUNCIL'S ATTORNEY, BUT THE ATTORNEY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. WHEN YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEETING SITTING HERE,

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CANCER GIVEN BY DAY FOR BOARD MEMBERS AND AUTHORITIES. BIG NO, NO. ANY GROUP OF COMMUNITY TASK FORCE AUTHORITY APPOINTED BY COUNCIL. ANSWERS ONLY TO COUNCIL BY WAY OF RECOMMENDATIONS. ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S. HE DID THIS SIX MONTH RIGHT. UP NEXT WE HAVE MISTER WILLIE JACKSON. I'M TRYING TO. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S NOT OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. WE CANNOT HAVE PEOPLE JUST DOING THINGS. NO ONE UNDER THE CITY MANAGER IS ALLOWED TO BE IN THE PRESENCE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF THE CITY MANAGER. COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE THAT LUXURY TO TELL ANY AUTHORITY, BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT YOU APPOINT THAT YOU HAVE TO GO AND DO ANYTHING THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR ANYONE UNDER HIM REQUEST. THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU. THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND ANOTHER THING I'VE BEEN READING THE ETHICS POLICY. YOU KNOW, I GOT SO MANY OF THOSE I REFUSE TO RELINQUISH MY THRONE AS HAVING THE MOST ETHICS POLICY VIOLATION FILED AGAINST HER IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF ALL COMBINED. PITTMAN NEVER LOST ONE. OH, THEY FOUND ME GUILTY OVER HERE. LAST ONE OF THEM. WE JUST HAD A COUNCIL THAT KNEW BETTER THAN TO TRY TO FOLLOW THAT. THAT MISS. HERE WE HAVE AN ETHICS POLICY THAT WE WENT BACK AND AMENDED IN 2013. AND IT IT SAYS YOUR CITY ATTORNEY EMPLOYED BY THE CITY CANNOT HAVE ANY OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT. I ASKED FOR THE CONTRACT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. NONE EXIST. I ASKED FOR A SALARY. $24,000 A MONTH, ALMOST A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION A YEAR, WITH NO PRESENCE IN THE CITY FROM 8 TO 5. WHO'S ADVISING THE CITY MANAGER? WHO'S ADVISING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? WHO'S LOOKING AT ALL THESE CONTRACTS THAT SAYS THEY ARE INFORMED AND LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE MISTAKES OR ERRORS IN

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YEAH, I LIVE IN ATLANTA SUBURB, BUT EAST POINT IS ITS OWN CITY. WE DESERVE SOME KIND OF PRESENCE WHEN IT COMES INTO OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT IF ANYBODY SET IT UP, WE'RE GOING TO PAY A CITY ATTORNEY $8,000 FOR A MEETING. I DON'T KNOW, YOU THINK YOU MUST THINK YOU ONE OF TRUMP'S MINIONS? THANK YOU. LASTLY, WE HAVE MISTER NAPOLEON BLACK. GOOD EVENING, NAPOLEON BLACK, EASTPOINTE RESIDENT. THIS ISSUE IS MORE ABOUT SAFETY IN OUR IMAGE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, DRIVE DOWN SOME OF THE MAIN STREETS IN OUR CITY AND YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S EXTREMELY DARK. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ADEQUATE LIGHTING ON MOST OF THE OVERHEAD STREET LAMPS, AND IF YOU NEED A COMPARISON, YOU SHOULD GO TO ATLANTA OR HAYESVILLE OR COLLEGE PARK AND NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE. THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S AN ISSUE FOR PEDESTRIANS WITH A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS THAT USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND THEY WALK ALONG THE ROADS. SO IF YOU ALL GET A CHANCE TO LEAVE THE OFFICE WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, JUST DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND THEN GO OVER INTO COLLEGE PARK OR ATLANTA AND JUST NOTICE THAT FOR YOURSELF AND SEE WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE OUR VISUAL IMAGE OR THE LIGHTING IN THE CITY. THAT'S PART OF THE IMAGE. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW WE BRING WHEN PEOPLE COME TO CAMP CREEK. IT'S DARK OVER THERE. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO COME SPEND THEIR MONEY, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO COME AND POSSIBLY DEVELOP HOMES. YOU GOT TO HAVE A A POSITIVE IMAGE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT. WE GOT NEW STREETS PAVED OVER AND LET'S PUT THE LIGHTS THAT GO WITH IT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. OH, ONE MORE IS MISS THERESA NELSON. SHE WAS UP UNDER MY AGENDA. THAT'S THE LAST ONE. MISS NELSON. PRESS THE BUTTONS. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THERESA NELSON, 1732 NEELY AVENUE, EAST POINT. I HAVE FOUND THE VISA INVOICES FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS FASCINATING AND LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING THE STATEMENTS OF EACH MEMBER. I STARTED WITH THE MEMBER WHO APPARENTLY HAD THE MOST EGREGIOUS EXPENDITURES.

THE AT LARGE COUNCILWOMAN FROM WARD CHARGED $86,486.37 OVER 32 MONTHS FROM 2023 TO SEPTEMBER 25TH. HALF OF THAT TOTAL, NEARLY 44,000 WAS FOR HER TRAVEL. BUT MOST SURPRISING WERE HER NON TRAVEL EXPENDITURES. THE COUNCILWOMAN SPENT OVER 22,000 WITH AMAZON, AROUND 9500 AT GROCERY STORES AND OVER 3900 AT MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESSES SUCH AS LOWE'S AND TARGET. SHE SPENT NEARLY $4,000 WITH FACEBOOK AND OVER $3,000 WITH LINKEDIN FOR WHAT IS APPARENTLY ITS BUSINESS PROMOTION ACCOUNT. BASED ON HER MONTHLY VISA CHARGES AVERAGING OVER 2700 FOR 32 MONTHS. THE COUNCILWOMAN, WHO WAS SWORN IN IN JANUARY OF 2014, COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE SPENT OVER $300,000 IN TRAVEL AND MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES. WE HEARD IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT FEW RECEIPTS FOR HER CHARGES WERE PROVIDED. THUS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO APPLY INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL EXPENDITURES APPROPRIATELY TO COUNCIL THREE BUDGETED FUNDS ACCOUNTS, 12,000 FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING, 1800 FOR SUPPLIES AND 11,250 FOR CONSTITUENT SERVICES, TOTALING $25,050 AND THE 2550 FOR ANNUAL BUDGETED EXPENSES FOR EACH COUNT. EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THERE ARE $5,000 MONTHLY CREDIT CARD LIMIT, OR

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WHERE DO YOU EXPECT TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE? CERTAINLY NOT FROM UTILITIES FUND, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SAME COUNCIL PERSON DOESN'T EVEN PAY THE UTILITY BILLS AT HER OWN RESIDENCE.

THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE

[X. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]

AND OUR WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT SPOKE IN REFERENCE TO OUR STORMWATER POLICY. AND SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO WAIVE THE REQUIRED RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ANNUAL BOARD CONCERNING THE DETERMINATION OF THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING RESOLUTION REPORT FOR MR. WILLIE JACKSON'S PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 2424 GREENWOOD CIRCLE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA, IN FAVOR OF MISTER JACKSON IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,000. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. CITY CLERK, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO GET THAT FROM COUNCILMAN TROTTER. I THINK SHE READ IT. ANY MOTION DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS, BUT WE THOUGHT WE HAD WORKED OUT A SOLUTION FOR THAT ISSUE WHERE MR. JACKSON WOULD NOT INCUR THAT $3,000 FEE, AND THAT IT WAS ALSO OUR UNDERSTANDING, AT LEAST IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS HAD TAKE THE CORRECTION TO THE SINKHOLE HAD TAKEN PLACE, OR WAS IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING PLACE. COULD YOU HELP US ADDRESS THAT? MR. JONES? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THE AUTHORITY TO WAIVE IT, BUT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE MOTION. GO AHEAD, MR. JONES. I THINK THE SOLUTION THAT WAS DETERMINED WAS COMBINING TWO CITY PROGRAMS, NOT ONLY JUST TO THE STORMWATER PROGRAM, BUT THE ALSO THE PROGRAM OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPOWERMENT AND INCLUSION TO I THINK IT'S THE ASSISTANCE FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE. THAT'S RIGHT. THE UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. SO THOSE TWO PROGRAMS TOGETHER CREATED THE SITUATION TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION. I JUST DIDN'T FOLLOW UP. I ASSUMED THAT IT HAD BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, BUT I DIDN'T DOUBLE BACK. SO I'LL DOUBLE BACK AND AND SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT, ON THAT STATUS OF THAT. BUT CERTAINLY FEEL FREE TO HAVE ANY FURTHER CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION. BUT THAT WAS THE SOLUTION THAT WE HAD OUR. COUNCILMAN BUTLER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YES. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO COVER THE REPAIR IS $9,000. $6,000 WAS COVERED BY WATER AND SEWER, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL 3000 WAS COVERED, COVERED BY THE EMPOWERMENT, EQUITY, EMPOWERMENT INCLUSION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND I WASN'T REAL SURE ON THE ACTUAL NUMBERS, BUT THE TWO PROGRAMS TOGETHER WAS ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE THE SITUATION. AT LEAST MY LAST REPORT. THAT'S WHAT MY

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COUNCILMEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO, SIR, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE CITY JUST SAYING THAT WE WERE COMING? OH I'M SORRY. OKAY. WELL, I'LL DIRECT THE QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER. HAVE WE SENT ANY TYPE OF CORRESPONDENCE TO HIM TO LET HIM KNOW JUST WHERE WE WERE WITH, WITH THE STATUS REGARDING THIS? I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR. I WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW FOLLOW UP ON THAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO CLEAR STORMWATER IS CONSIDERED TO BE A UTILITY. OKAY. AND FOR WHAT THE ASK IS TODAY, MADAM MAYOR, ARE WE WE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY THAT HE HE CAN THAT HE THAT HE'S NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE CARE OF IT, THAT THE CITY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF ON THE CITY'S DIME. I DEFER THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. I BELIEVE THERE'S A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. I'M NOT AWARE OF A UTILITIES ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT HAS THAT JUST PAYS UTILITIES. THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE COMES THROUGH. I THINK LIHEAP AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT EDDIE LEE BRUCE IS A PART OF? THE THE COMMUNITY ACTION. THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT THEY GET THE FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY OR WHOMEVER. AND THEN WE APPROVED THE AGREEMENT TO PARTICIPATE IN SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE UTILITIES ASSISTANCE. I KNOW DURING CARES ACT, THAT WAS QUITE SOME TIME AGO. THERE WAS 250,000 FOR UTILITIES. I'M NOT AWARE OF FUNDS IN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT FOR UTILITIES ASSISTANCE AT THIS JUNCTURE, AND I'M NOT SURE GENERALLY THOSE FUNDS HAVE NOT NECESSARILY GONE TO STORM WATER. IT'S USUALLY WATER OR ELECTRIC. AND SO IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO MAKE A DECISION TO WAIVE IT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A COUNCIL DECISION WHETHER OR NOT LEGALLY THAT'S PROPER. IF THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS ANY COMMENTS AROUND THAT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FUNDS IN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, INCLUSION AND EMPOWERMENT FOR STORM WATER UTILITY. REPAIRS, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T EVEN ABOUT USAGE. THIS IS A STORMWATER UTILITY LIKE REPAIR. BUT CITY ATTORNEY WIGGINS, TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT. COUNCIL CAN DO THIS BY MOTION, MAKE A DECISION. I THINK THERE WAS A CLAIM FILED AS A PART OF THIS. AND SO AS IT RELATES TO RESOLVING A CLAIM, ATTORNEY WIGGINS, CERTAINLY THE DIVISION FOUR OF YOUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ORDINANCE PROVIDES THAT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM SHALL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY. AND THAT'S IN A DIFFERENT SUBSECTION, BUT IT PROVIDES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR MAY AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, AND THEY SHOULD RECEIVE FUNDING. AND IT IS TO ASSIST PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH ADDRESSING THEIR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM CONDITION ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. A RELEASE WOULD HAVE TO BE SIGNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD THEY GET ASSISTANCE THROUGH THIS STORMWATER COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND SECTION EIGHT DASH 2430 LIST. LIKE THE PROCESS OF

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AT THIS POINT, I'M I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES. I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I NEED TO. SO THIS IS THE ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE WELL, I CAN'T TALK TO HIM. SO THE ISSUE THAT HE HAS IS BECAUSE OF STORMWATER, STORMWATER DAMAGE TO HIS YARD.

CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. OKAY. SO AND INITIALLY THE TOTAL CHARGE IS $9,000.

THEY'VE TAKEN CARE OF 6000. AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A $3,000 IS GOING TO. WITH THE 3000. OKAY. ALRIGHT. HE CAN ALWAYS ADD TO THAT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE AND AND JUST BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THE DECISION THAT WE'RE MAKING BECAUSE THEY'RE SHAKING HEADS, BUT I REALLY CAN'T TALK TO THEM. SO I JUST REALLY JUST SO THAT WE CAN BE INFORMED ABOUT THE DECISION. SO. OH, GO AHEAD. I JUST WANT TO BECAUSE I THINK THE FACTS MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT'S BEEN A WHILE AND LORD KNOWS I GET UP THERE AND FORGET SOME THINGS, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS A A CITY VACATED SYSTEM THAT COLLAPSED.

AND THAT PART OF THAT HAS CREATED THE SITUATION. SO THERE IS THERE IS SOME ASPECT OF, OF VACATED CITY LAND OR CITY FACILITY. AND WHEN I SAY FACILITY, I MEAN UNDERGROUND FACILITY OF SOME SORT THAT WAS VACATED THAT HAS OVER TIME ERODED AND COLLAPSED. AND I BELIEVE THAT CREATED. BUT I'M ALSO SEEING NO. SO I'M NOT SURE. BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. THE $3,000, THE $3,000, THE REMAINING BALANCE OF $3,000. IT APPEARS THAT WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF IT. WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT POT IT'S COMING OUT OF. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO TAKE CARE OF IT. OKAY? IT'S FINE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. BUT THE THING IS, OKAY, WHO WHO TAKES CARE OF IT? WHAT WHAT POT DOES IT COME OUT OF THIS? WE CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. OKAY. YOU CAN MAKE THAT OKAY. THAT'S FINE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, I YIELD. YES. YEAH. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ORDER. COUNCIL. I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. I KNOW YOU WERE IN COUNCILMAN MITCHELL AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER FRIEDMAN. SO MY QUESTION IS I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE HAVING ISSUES LIKE THIS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD THEN BRING TO THE FOREFRONT THE PROPERTY ON MEADOWLARK LANE, MEADOWLARK DRIVE, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY OF MISS ROBINSON. AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. SO THIS IS ALSO A STORMWATER ISSUE. SO WE WOULD THEN I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE FOR MR. JACKSON'S PROPERTY TO BE ADDRESSED. I WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR DOCTOR ROBINSON'S PROPERTY. OTHERS HAVE COME BASED ON SOME STORM WATER ISSUES. I MEAN, THE CITY HAS GONE OUT AND THEY'VE TRIED TO CORRECT THE CURVE IN THE ROAD. THEY'VE GONE OUT AND THEY'VE TRIED TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY HAVE NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED THE EROSION THAT IS HAPPENING THERE. SO WITH THE SAME APPLIED TO THIS PROPERTY AS WELL. SO MY RESPONSE TO THAT, JUST HAVING RECEIVED THE NOTICE FROM MEADOWLARK TODAY. THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE SECTION OF THE CODE THAT I JUST MENTIONED IS FOLLOWED SO THAT THERE IS A NONDISCRIMINATORY NON-ARBITRARY APPLICATION OF THE CODE TO ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT POTENTIALLY MAY HAVE THESE STORMWATER ISSUES. AND SO IT DETAILS EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS IS. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT TALKS ABOUT THE PRO RATA SHARE OF THE CITY VERSUS THE PRO RATA SHARE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND SO, IN SHORT, IF THE CODE IS FOLLOWED, YOU WILL HAVE CONSISTENT RESULTS IN WHAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE AND WHAT'S NOT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THIS PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE THAT COUNCILWOMAN

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES. I'D LIKE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE THEIR ISSUES PROPERLY ADDRESSED.

AND SO I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT I AM FOLLOWING UP. SO THAT TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT'S ARBITRARY, BUT IT IS INCONSISTENT AND COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I KNOW WE COULD COLLECT FEES. MR. CITY MANAGER, I, I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS EVERY MONTH FOR THE STORMWATER UTILITY UTILITY FUND. COULD THAT BE A POSSIBLE SOURCE? IS THAT NOT THAT MONEY'S FOR OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT COULD AND CERTAINLY I THINK IT'S ALREADY CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF THE ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR DISTRICT GOODNESS. OKAY. AND THIS IS PROBABLY SO WE CAN PROBABLY AVOID THIS. I THINK I'VE WRITTEN UP AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A STORMWATER ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL BOARD, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS TO SEE WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. AND WE WANT TO TRY TO NOT RUN INTO THIS ISSUE WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS. SO I MIGHT HAVE THAT FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK OVER LATER.

BUT THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELAND. COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL'S QUESTION SORT OF TOUCHED ON MINE. I WAS GOING TO ASK. I KNOW, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS OVER SEVERAL MONTHS AND IN PAST DISCUSSIONS. THE STORMWATER FEES HAVE COME UP VIS A VIS THIS ISSUE. SO, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO HOW THOSE FEES MIGHT PLAY INTO THIS, IF AT ALL? ARE YOU SPEAKING OF THE FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED FOR THE STORMWATER? SO EVERYBODY PAYS A A DIFFERENT FEE BASED ON THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ON THEIR PROPERTY. RIGHT. AND THEY MAY HAVE DIFFERENT COLLECTION EFFORTS ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT WOULD GIVE EACH PROPERTY OWNER A DIFFERENT FEE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOUR ORDINANCE JUST PROVIDES THAT THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS AT DISCUSSION HERE, SHALL BE FUNDED BY THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE THAT'S COLLECTED FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THAT'S THE BUCKET OF MONEY THAT WOULD GO TOWARD ASSISTING PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN THEY HAVE INDEED FOLLOWED THE PROCESS IN EIGHT DASH 2430 TO GET MONEY FROM THE CITY, THE CITY'S PRO RATA SHARE, THAT IS, OF WHEN THERE IS A STORMWATER ISSUE. HOPEFULLY THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION, BUT THE FEE IS NOT THE SAME FEE ACROSS THE BOARD. UNDERSTOOD. BUT IT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THERE IS A SOURCE OF FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR SUCH A REQUEST. CORRECT. SO IT'S IT'S NOT A LEGAL ISSUE, NOR IS THERE A FUNDING SOURCE QUESTION. IT'S A PROCESS QUESTION PROCESS. AND THEN PART OF THAT PROCESS IS ENSURING THAT THE SHARE THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY VERSUS THE SHARE THAT'S BORNE BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, THAT'S A PART OF THAT PROCESS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF EITHER. MR. CITY MANAGER, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OR ARE WE CERTAIN OF ALL OF THAT TONIGHT? IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, AS WE'RE ASKED TO MAKE A VOTE, I WILL SAY THIS. THE LAST TIME IT WAS TALKED ABOUT. WHEN MISS ETCHEVERRY WAS HERE, I BUTCHER HER NAME. EVERY TIME I APOLOGIZE WAS THAT SHE INDICATED THAT THE CITY'S FEE

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I THINK IT THE, THE IT WASN'T ABOUT THE FUND. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE FEE. IT WAS ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE USE OF THE PROGRAM WHICH HAD STIPULATED A CERTAIN AMOUNT BE CONTRIBUTED BY THE THE PRIVATE OWNER AND IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT BY THE PUBLIC, WHICH WOULD BE THE FUND. I THINK THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP WITH MR. JACKSON'S CASE WAS HIS WHEREWITHAL TO PAY HIS SIDE OF THE PRIVATE FUND, WHICH WE DO HAVE UTILITY FORGIVENESS PROGRAMS TO HELP PEOPLE WHEN THEY HAVE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THAT THAT OPTION CAME FROM TO HELP HIM WITH THE UTILITY, THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO TAKE CARE OF, BUT STILL CREATED A SITUATION THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. OKAY, SO IS THIS IN ADDITION TO THE PROCESS THAT'S LAID OUT IN OUR ORDINANCES, IS THIS A FOLLOW ON? WELL, THERE'S TWO WAYS. I THINK THE PROBABLY THE CLEANEST WAY TO BE FRANK IS PROBABLY COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE'S APPROACH, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M HEARING IS HER SUGGESTION TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A LIMITATION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE OF THE THE PUBLIC, THE PRIVATE, EXCUSE ME, THE PRIVATE MATCH, IF YOU WILL. AND SO EITHER WE TAKE THE APPROACH WHERE THE COUNCIL SAYS, YEAH, WE'LL WE'LL FORGIVE THE MATCH IN THIS SITUATION. OF COURSE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LEGAL HAS YOU KNOW PROBABLY OPINION ON DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GET FURTHER REQUESTS LIKE THAT. AND DOES THAT CREATE ANY KIND OF SITUATION OF EQUITY ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, OR DO WE USE THE APPROACH? THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROACH THAT I WAS SUGGESTING WAS COMBINING TWO PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT, MATCHES THE CITIZENS IN NEED PORTION THAT THE UTILITY FUND. AND AND WE DO HAVE A UTILITY RESCUE FUND, IF YOU WILL, THAT HELPS CITIZENS THAT ARE IN NEED WITH UTILITY EXPENSES. DOES THIS MEET THAT NEED AS WELL AS THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE BUILT FOR STORMWATER NEEDS? STILL ALLOWING THE LIMITATIONS FOR THE INVESTMENT THAT THE POLICY HAS AND THEN UTILIZING ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT ADDRESSES MR. JACKSON'S PARTICULAR NEED IN HIS SITUATION. SO, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT IS WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT SORT OF LEGAL STANDING OR LEGAL PRECEDENT A VOTE LIKE THIS MIGHT CREATE? OR SO MY OPINION IS THAT OF THE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU HAVE. AND I CAN READ IT TO YOU GUYS, OR WE CAN PULL IT UP SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES. I WILL POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A SPECIFIC SECTION THAT SAYS THIS IS SUBSECTION B, SO BEAR WITH ME. IT'S A LITTLE LENGTHY. UPON RECEIPT OF A STATEMENT. AND THE STATEMENT THAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IN THE ORDINANCE IS THE STATEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, SHALL CAUSE AN INVESTIGATION TO BE MADE TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT AND ORIGIN OF SURFACE WATERS CONTRIBUTING, CONTRIBUTING TO THE CLAIMANTS ALLEGED DAMAGE, AND ALSO TO THE EFFECT OF THE COLLECTION AND DISCHARGE OF WATER FROM CITY PROPERTY, WHICH MAY CONTRIBUTE TO THE CLAIMANTS ALLEGED DAMAGE. THE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, SHALL THEN DETERMINE, IN THEIR BEST PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, THE PERCENTAGE OF DAMAGE, IF ANY, WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY THE FLOW OF SURFACE WATERS FROM THE CITY PROPERTY. IF THE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, DETERMINES THAT THE CITY MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CLAIMANTS DAMAGE, HE SHALL THEN ESTIMATE THE COST OF MATERIAL

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WHICH IS AS CLEAR AS MUDDY STORMWATER. WELL, THERE HAS BEEN AN INVESTIGATION DONE, IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW LONG AGO, BUT WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE THAT INVESTIGATION HAD BEEN COMPLETED. AND I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU GUYS GOT TO OR YOU HEARD FROM WATER SERVICES THAT THERE WAS THE SIX VERSES 3000.

BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GOING TO BE A DECISION OF COUNCIL. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON HIS DISCRETION IN THIS ORDINANCE. I READ THAT THERE BE FUNDING FOR THAT. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO LET ME JUST GO BACK OVER IS TO WAIVE THE REQUIRED RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL BOARD CONCERNING THE DETERMINATION OF THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING RESOLUTION REPORT FOR WILLIE JACKSON PROPERTY. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2424 GREENWOOD CIRCLE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA, IN FAVOR OF MR. JACKSON IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,000. SO THAT'S THE MOTION. I UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATION IS FROM THE CITY MANAGER. NOT THE BILLBOARD. SO TO WELL, THEN AGAIN, I'LL AMEND IT TO TO TO INSTEAD OF THE APPEALS BOARD TO. THAT COUNCIL APPROVE IT AND NOT AND NOT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER. YES. I THINK INITIALLY THE MOTION SAID THAT THE TO WAIVE THE FEE PER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STORMWATER APPEAL BOARD, THE RECOMMENDATION IS FROM THE CITY MANAGER. THAT'S THE PART OF THE MOTION. SO THE CITY MANAGER MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION CORRECT. WHAT I'M HEARING. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS HOLD ON A MINUTE. WHO MADE THE SECOND THE THERE HADN'T BEEN A CALL ON THE WE'RE STILL IN ON DISCUSSION. SO SHE CAN AMEND WHO MADE THE SECOND ON THE MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL IS YOUR SECOND STILL STAND. YES. OKAY.

COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE. SO MY MY QUESTION IS THIS. MR. CITY MANAGER, APPARENTLY YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SOMEONE IN REFERENCE TO THIS SITUATION. AT WHAT POINT DID Y'ALL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. JACKSON ABOUT HIS PROPERTY OR WHAT YOU ALL WAS GOING TO DO? BECAUSE

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GOING TO BE WAIVED, AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING SOURCE. THE DECISION TO WAIVE THE FEE IS A COUNCIL DECISION THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN'T MAKE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT HE FINDS A FUNDING SOURCE. AND SO THE MOTION THAT YOU MADE WOULD ALLOW TO WAIVE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER, DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS, ALTHOUGH THERE'S PROBABLY DISCUSSION WITH AT LEAST SOMEBODY ON COUNCIL AND WHOMEVER ABOUT HOW TO RESOLVE THIS. PER THE ORDINANCE, THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WAIVE THE FEE. THE CITY MANAGER CAN FIND FUNDING SOURCES LIKE WITHIN THE BUDGET TO COVER THIS. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PART OF THE STORM.

BUT THE FIRST THING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS A DECISION BY COUNCIL TO WAIVE, WHICH IS THE MOTION, AND THEN THE FUNDING SOURCE IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION OF COUNCIL HAS MADE A DECISION TO WAIVE.

THERE NEEDS TO BE FUNDING FOR IT. AND WHETHER THAT'S WITHIN HIS OPERATIONAL AUTHORITY, I WOULD LIKE TO GET INFORMATION ON THAT EQUITY AND INCLUSION UTILITIES PROGRAM AS IT WAS SET UP, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T RECALL IT. I COULD BE WRONG. SO COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, NO, BUT JUST THE YOU KNOW, THE MOTION TO WAIVE, WE'RE STILL ON DISCUSSION ON IT. AND IT'S THE AMENDED FORM IS YOU AMENDED IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL. MITCHELL. THIS IS FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY.

I KNOW WE WERE JUST GOING OVER THE PROCESS BECAUSE YOU GO TO SECTION TEN, DASH 5065. NO. FOR ABOUT THE APPEAL FOR THE APPEAL FOR TO SAY SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF THE CITY. 1050 64. I WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF THE CITY. THE CITY STAFF, WHAT AVENUES DO THEY HAVE TO APPEAL THAT DECISION? IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT. OKAY. OH, YOU DON'T SEE IT. IT'S IT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS THE FIRST. CONDITION. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO TO DASH. TEN, DASH 5064 SAYS ANY PERSON AGGRIEVED BY A DECISION OR DETERMINATION OF THE WATER AND SEWER STORMWATER DIVISION SHALL APPEAL IN WRITING WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH DECISION OR DETERMINATION TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OR THEIR DESIGNEE, AND SHALL BE ENTITLED TO A HEARING WITHIN 45 DAYS OF THE WRITTEN APPEAL. SO MY ANSWER TO THAT IS I DON'T BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN A DECISION BY WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. WELL, NO, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BY THE CITY MANAGER TO YOU GUYS TO WAIVE THE. TO WAIVE THE BALANCE OF THE OVERALL COST TO RESOLVE THE THE ISSUE. AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD HELP YOU MUCH BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY OUTSIDE THE 30 DAYS THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON MUCH LONGER THAN. THAN A MONTH. GOTCHA. OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. I THINK MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT OF WAIVING FEES. AND WHAT WE DO FOR ONE PERSON, WE HAVE TO DO FOR EVERYONE. IN THIS CASE, THE DIRECTOR OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAD COME WITH A SOLUTION. AND IN ORDER TO MEET THE FINANCIAL NEEDS OF THE RESIDENT THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE THAT ALLOWS US TO STAY WITHIN AND NOT SET A PRECEDENT. SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES THAT I THINK THE ISSUE HAS BEEN IS THE FACT OF THE MATTER, THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE, BUT THE FUNDING HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED WHERE MR. JACKSON WOULD NOT HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY OUT OF POCKET. SO MY CONCERN WITH THE WAY THE MOTION IS STATED AT THIS POINT IS THAT WHAT WE DO FROM ONE PERSON, WE WILL HAVE TO DO FOR ALL. ANY. FURTHER DISCUSSION.

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COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. I'M SORRY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES. THE MOTION FAILED. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER? MISS? FARMER? FORMER MAYOR, FORMER MAYOR. PITMAN.

OKAY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T TALK ON THE WAY OUT, CAPTAIN ROBINSON. SO, PLEASE, IF WE CAN GET ORDER IN THE CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WHO'S IN FOR COUNCIL MEMBER? SHROPSHIRE HAD FINISHED HER COMMENTS. I HAD ONE MORE. YOUR TIME HAD RUN OUT. THE TIME? THE TIME WENT OUT RIGHT BEFORE WE STARTED THE ROUND OF DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. IT DID? YES. I'M JUST ENFORCING THE NEW RULES. THEY HAVE. WE HAVE. SO IS ANYBODY ELSE? I COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL COUNSELOR CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT FOR THE MEETING. BOTH LIVE BOTH IN PERSON AND VIA LIVE STREAM. I JUST HAD ONE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE, JUST WANTED TO INVITE EVERYONE OUT FOR TO REGISTER FOR THE SENIOR STROLL. IT'S TAKING PLACE AT SYKES PARK ON NOVEMBER 8TH. SENIOR STROLL STARTS, WE'LL HAVE REGISTRATION AT 8:00 AND WE WILL STROLL AT NINE, AND I PROMISE TO HAVE EVERYONE HOME BY 11. BUT JUST SO THERE'S A QR CODE THAT'S ON HERE, THIS IS ALSO BEING FEATURED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. AS WELL THE CITY'S CITY'S WEBSITE. THAT INFORMATION WILL BE POSTED THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. YES, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT LAST WEEK, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY, THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HOSTED MEGH, OUR MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC AUTHORITY OF GEORGIA, FOR ITS ANNUAL BOARD MEETING. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE COMMENDATIONS TO MISS ALISA PERSONS AND MISS KAREN FIGUEROA FOR DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB WORKING WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP AND PLANNING THOSE TWO DAYS. I THINK THAT EVERYONE WHO CAME HERE FROM ACROSS THE STATE FOR THAT BOARD MEETING HAD AN ENJOYABLE TIME, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I MENTIONED THAT. AND THE SECOND THING IS THAT I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO, THE CITY HOSTED MEMBERS OF BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS. AND OF COURSE, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. IT WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY. WE HAD A LOT OF CITIZENS TO COME OUT, AND I'M HOPING, MR. CITY MANAGER, THAT WE WILL RIDE THAT WAVE OF ENTHUSIASM AND THAT WE DON'T LOSE THE EXCITEMENT AROUND THAT AND THAT THESE BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS CAN START MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE POLICIES AND HAVE A SAY IN PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BODY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROBIN, YES, I WANTED TO JUST ANNOUNCE THE BEST WEDNESDAY NIGHT OF THE YEAR WILL BE AT CHAPEL HILL CHURCH FOR THEIR FALL FESTIVAL, LOCATED AT 4330 WASHINGTON ROAD, 30344. IT'S GOING TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER 22ND FROM 6:30 P.M. UNTIL 8:00 PM. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WITH THE CURRENT NUMBER OF RENTAL HOUSES AND ROOMS FOR RENT IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, AND THE FACT THAT CORPORATE CORPORATIONS OWN MANY OF THESE HOUSES, IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT FOR THE STATE OF GEORGIA TO KEEP UP. SENATOR OSSOFF HAS LAUNCHED AN INQUIRY INTO THE BUYING UP OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND CURRENTLY THERE'S AN

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THERE WERE PEOPLE, BLACK, WHITE JEWS, THAT DIED SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT 1965 VOTING RIGHTS ACT. AND WE CANNOT STAND BY AND JUST ALLOW IT TO GO AWAY. I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND THE UPHEAVAL IN OUR COUNTRY AT THIS TIME IS DIRECTLY TIED TO AN ELECTION RESULT, AND ALL ELECTIONS ARE CRITICAL TO PROGRESS. THIS EARLY VOTING IS HAPPENING NOW FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR. THERE WILL BE COUNTY AND STATEWIDE ELECTIONS, GUBERNATORIAL ELECTIONS. IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE VOTE IN EVERY SINGLE ELECTION AND THEN HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THAT WE ELECT, BUT ALSO THOSE WHO ARE NOT ELECTED THAT WE DON'T ELECT. THE CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE THE NUMBERS IS NOT WORKING IN THE SENATE, IN THE HOUSE, AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO PUT PARTY ASIDE AND POLITICS ASIDE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT WILL SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY. AND NOW WE HAVE A SUPREME COURT THAT IS ALSO STACKED WITH APPOINTMENTS BY THE CURRENT PERSON WHO OCCUPIES THE WHITE HOUSE. AND SO THIS IS A TIME TO BE EXTREMELY VIGILANT, BUT ALSO TO HAVE A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY. AND WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM AND TREAT PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE, NOT WHO YOU WANT THEM TO BE, AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DEMONSTRATE IS THE LOVE, THE HUMANITY, THE RESPECT FOR ALL HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE RESPECT FOR HUMANITY, AND ACTUALLY DEMAND THAT OF OUR LEADERS.

OVER 7 MILLION PEOPLE ON SATURDAY CAME TOGETHER TO DEMAND THAT ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE ORGANIZERS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE ADVOCATING. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A VERY HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY. WE HAVE COMING UP THIS MONTH A SAFE PLACE FOR OUR YOUTH FOR ON HALLOWEEN, OUR 11TH ANNUAL CITY OF EAST POINT MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL PRESENT THE 11TH ANNUAL HALLOWEEN FESTIVAL ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31ST FROM 5 P.M. TO 8 P.M. HERE AT EAST POINT CITY HALL. NEXT UP, DO WE HAVE ANY? WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ITEM NUMBER FOUR

[XI.4. City Council Credit Card Payments, Reimbursements, and Reporting]

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AND SO I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CLERK, AND SHE'S PREPARED TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CLERK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW ABOUT HOW OUR CREDIT CARD EXPENSES ARE TRACKED AND MANAGED, AND TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN SPENDING AND CLARIFY THE PROCESS FOR SUBMITTING RECEIPTS AND MANAGE BUDGET LIMITS. SEE, OUR OFFICE MAINTAINS AN OFFICE COUNCIL CREDIT CARD TRACKING SHEET. THE SHEET ALLOWS US TO MONITOR ALL COUNCIL MEMBER PURCHASES IN REAL TIME. AND WHEN I SAY COUNCIL CREDIT CARD TRACKING SHEET, BUT IT'S REALLY A OVERALL. MY MIND JUST WENT BLANK. IT'S AN OVERALL BUDGET TRACKING SHEET. SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR CREDIT CARDS FOR ALL BUDGETS, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IS NOTIFIED INDIVIDUALLY WHEN THEIR ACCOUNT IS CLOSE TO ITS LIMIT. MEANING IF MY OFFICE HAS A $3,000 LIMIT ON GETTING SCHOOL, GETTING SUPPLIES FOR THE OFFICE, LIKE AT 2500, LIKE, HEY, WE ONLY GOT 500 LEFT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO WE DO THE SAME ACCOUNT.

SO IT'S JUST A PROACTIVE APPROACH. IT PREVENTS OVERSPENDING AND ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH CITY'S POLICY. THE CREDIT CARD LIMIT INFORMATION COUNCIL MEMBERS CREDIT CARDS HAVE $5,000. THE BALANCES ARE MONITORED AS WE RECEIVE THE RECEIPTS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE MY PERSONAL BANK. I CAN'T JUST LOG IN AND SEE WHAT EVERYONE'S BALANCE IS. IN ORDER FOR ME TO DO SO, I WILL HAVE TO CALL EACH EVERYBODY'S CARD INDIVIDUALLY TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS IN REAL TIME. LIKE I SAID, WE DO DO. AS WE RECEIVE THE RECEIPTS, WE ENSURE THAT THE SPENDING REMAINS WITHIN APPROVED LIMIT. AND WHEN THE BALANCE IS GETTING LOW IN YOUR ACCOUNTS, WE CALL COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW. AND THAT'S IN YOUR ACCOUNT AS FAR AS, SAY, WITH OUR WITH THE CITY CLERK'S SUPPLY ACCOUNT, IF OUR SUPPLIES ARE GETTING LOW, OUR ACCOUNT IS GETTING LOW. WE KNOW THAT WE JUST HAVE TO CUT OFF SPENDING FOR THAT MOVING FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. AS FAR AS RECEIPT SUBMISSION PROCESS. SO ONCE CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS ARE RECEIVED, WE REACH OUT TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE MISSING RECEIPTS. THEY WE OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT THEY'RE SUBMITTED TO US AS THE PURCHASES OCCUR TO STREAMLINE RECONCILIATION. AND WE I, WE PREFER THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A NOTEBOOK THAT WE KEEP IN OUR OFFICE THAT'S SEPARATED BY EACH MEMBER. SO AS WE GET THE CREDIT CARD, NOT CREDIT CARD, AS WE RECEIVE RECEIPTS FROM EACH SAID COUNCIL MEMBER, WE PUT IT BEHIND THEIR NAME. SO WHEN THE CREDIT CARDS COME, SOME OF SOME OF YOU, WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO REACH OUT TO BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. SO YEAH, PROMPT RECEIPT SUBMISSION ALLOWS ACCURATE CATEGORIES, CATEGORIZATION AND FASTER REPORTING. AND UPON RECEIVING THE RECEIPTS, WE ALSO CATEGORIZE IT TO WHERE IT COMES FROM. EITHER IT CAN COME FROM YOUR OTHER PROFESSIONAL FEES, OR YOUR EDUCATION AND TRAVEL, OR YOUR EVENT LINE ITEM. SAY YOU HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP. WE KNOW IT'S COMING FROM SAID EVENT. WE'LL IF WE DON'T KNOW, WE'LL CALL AND VERIFY. EITHER WAY, WE'LL STILL LET YOU KNOW. IT ALSO CAN COME FROM YOUR.

FROM YOUR COUNCIL FEES. THAT 800 $1,800. AND LIKE I SAID, IF THE PURCHASE IS IF WE'RE UNCLEAR ABOUT WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND I HAVE NO IDEA OR WE JUST CAN'T PICK IT UP, WE'LL JUST CALL YOU DIRECTLY TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION OF WHERE IT NEEDS TO COME FROM. AS FAR AS THE BUDGET MONITORING, WE DO TRACK EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S BUDGET ACTIVITY AND REMAINING BALANCES, AND THAT'S WITHIN IN-HOUSE. WITHIN OUR OFFICE WE HAVE A SPREADSHEET. I DO HAVE IT TO PULL UP IF YOU NEED TO SEE WHEN FUNDS ARE RUNNING LOW AGAIN. WE LET THEM KNOW INDIVIDUALLY. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE AWARE OF THE PURCHASES AS RECEIPTS AND INVOICES ARE SUBMITTED. ENSURING PROACTIVE BUDGET OVERSIGHT. FOR OUR OFFICE REQUESTS. LIKE FOR ME, FOR JUST OUR OFFICE AS A WHOLE. LIKE I SAID, IF YOU SEND US THE RECEIPTS AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE, THAT HELPS US. IT HELPS US NOT SUBMIT MISSING RECEIPT FORMS. I KNOW I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THE MISSING RECEIPT FORMS. HOWEVER, I ALREADY REACH OUT TO REGIONS PRIOR TO TWO DAYS AFTER THE STATEMENTS CLOSED, I REACH OUT TO THE BANK. WE TYPICALLY GET THE STATEMENTS.

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INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN THE MISSING RECEIPT FORM. YEP. AND THAT IS OKAY. WHAT QUESTIONS DO Y'ALL HAVE FOR ME? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CLERK, A FEW QUESTIONS. THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT HAD OUR LIMITS, OUR INDIVIDUAL CREDIT CARD LIMITS ON THAT. WHERE'S THAT? WHERE'S THAT LIMIT? DOCUMENTED. CODIFIED. AND I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IF I LOOK AT MY STATEMENT, MY STATEMENT SOMETIMES HAS A LIMIT OF 4000, SOMETIMES A LIMIT OF 5000. AND SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT FLUCTUATES. I UNDERSTAND THAT I THINK SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID THAT THEIR LIMITS ARE EVEN GREATER THAN THAT. AND SO WHERE IS THAT POLICY THAT OUR LIMIT IS 5000? THERE IS NO CERTAIN POLICY THAT SAYS THAT IT'S 5000. SO WE JUST SO IT'S JUST ARBITRARY WHO COMES UP WITH THE AMOUNT. IT WAS 4000 AT ONE POINT. BUT IS THAT A DECISION MADE BY YOU OR FINANCE WHO COMMUNICATES WITH THE BANK? MYSELF AND FINANCE, MR. JONES? YES, MA'AM. DOES FINANCE MAKE A DECISION OR HOW ARE THEY INVOLVED IN THE DECISION AROUND CREDIT LIMITS, CREDIT CARD LIMITS? TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ONLY TIME THERE'S ANY KIND OF CREDIT CARD LIMIT CHANGE IS MAYBE IF THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE A COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE STRANDED OR CAN'T GET THEIR CARS TO BE WORKED. BUT I ONLY KNOW OF THAT SITUATION WHERE LIMITS HAVE BEEN CHANGED, SO I'M NOT REAL SURE HOW THOSE LIMITS WERE EVER DETERMINED TO BEGIN WITH. AND I DON'T CAN'T SAY FOR SURE WHAT OUTSIDE OF EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, WHY THOSE LIMITS WOULD EVER CHANGE, OR I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS. COUNCILMEMBER MR. JONES, IT LOOKS LIKE I ALSO SEE I SEE OUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR, MISS CARTWRIGHT, MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. MAYOR COUNCIL, TYPICALLY WITH THE THE LIMITS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ADOPTED BY YOU ALL. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M LOOKING FOR NOW TO SEE WHAT THAT LIMIT IS FOR YOU. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS CONSISTENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO INFORM YOU THAT I AM LOOKING FOR A POLICY THAT SHOWS WHAT THE CREDIT LIMIT SHOULD BE FOR YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MISS CARTWRIGHT. MISS. MADAM CLERK, WOULD THAT DOCUMENTATION THAT SPEAKS TO THE LIMIT, WOULD THAT BE. WOULD YOU BE THE CUSTODIAN OF THOSE DOCUMENTS SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO MISS CARTWRIGHT AS OUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR? YES, I'D BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TO HER. SO THERE IS DOCUMENTATION THAT SHOWS WHAT THE LIMIT SHOULD BE ON THE ON THE ACTUAL CREDIT CARD STATEMENT. YES IT DOES. NO. BUT THIS BODY, WOULD THIS BODY HAVE MADE A DECISION AS TO WHAT THE CREDIT CARD LIMIT SHOULD BE? AND IS THERE A DOCUMENT TO IS THERE A DOCUMENT THAT REFLECTS THAT? NO. SO THERE'S NEVER BEEN A DECISION, A CONSENSUS BY THIS BODY OF WHAT THE LIMIT COULD BE? NO. OKAY. SO IT COULD BE 15 20,000. AND NO IT CAN'T BE THAT WELL THEN IT'S SUBJECTIVE. THEN SOMEONE IS MAKING A SUBJECTIVE DECISION TO CHANGE IT. SO I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THERE'S NOT A DOCUMENT SOMEWHERE THAT STATES WHAT THE LIMIT FOR EACH

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AND SO THAT WOULD BE RELATIVE. ARE WE. THE SAME DOCUMENT MAY SPEAK TO WHEN WE ARE TO PROVIDE RECEIPTS. AND SO FOR YOUR OFFICE AND YOUR ESTIMATION WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER PROMPT SUBMISSION. THE DAY OF DAY AFTER YOU MAKE YOUR PURCHASE? LIKE I SAID, WE WE HAVE A WE HAVE A WHOLE NOTEBOOK THAT'S BROKEN UP BY EACH OF YOU. SO IF WE ALREADY HAVE IT, WHEN THE CREDIT CARD BILLS COME OUTSIDE OF YOUR REDACTED BILL THAT WE SEND LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALL WE WOULD NEED FROM YOU. OKAY. WELL, THERE THERE ARE TWO THOUGHTS I HAVE AROUND THAT. ONE GOES TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT WHEN THE BILLS COME, YOUR OFFICE PAYS THEM, AND THERE ARE TIMES YOUR OFFICE PAYS THOSE BILLS WITHOUT ANY RECEIPT OR DOCUMENTATION FOR THE EXPENSES. CORRECT. IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THE RECEIPT WITHIN THE DAY, WE GO AHEAD. IF IT IF AT SOME POINT YOU RECEIVE A RECEIPT AND IT'S NOT FOR AN AUTHORIZED CHARGE, THAT WE COULD USE CITY FUNDS FOR, WHAT WOULD THEN BE THE RECOURSE. BECAUSE NOW WE'VE ALREADY PAID THE BILL. CORRECT. AND I HAVE NOT. THAT IS NOT NOTHING THAT I HAVE DONE AS OF YET. OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION, THE CATEGORIZATION OF THE EXPENSES WITH THOSE THREE BUCKETS, IF YOU GO TO THAT PARTICULAR SLIDE, WHAT I HAVE AND WHAT I RECALL, AND I'M HAPPY TO STAND CORRECTED IF IT'S NOT WHAT IS ACTUALLY REFLECTED IN OUR BUDGET. BUT I RECALL THOSE THREE BUCKETS, ONE BEING OFFICE SUPPLIES, THE OTHER BEING TRAVEL AND TRAINING, AND THEN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. BUT I SEE HERE WE HAVE AN EVENT LINE, AND I NEVER RECALL US HAVING A, A, A BUCKET OF DOLLARS FOR EVENTS. IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A LINE ITEM FOR ALL COUNCIL EVENTS. SO SAY IF YOU HAD. WARD B TOWN HALL MEETING, YOU PROVIDED FOOD OR WHATNOT, AND THOSE EXPENSES WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF IT IS A LINE ITEM IN THERE. THAT'S FOR EVENTS THAT AREN'T PLANNED. SO SPECIAL EVENTS, THOSE THOSE PURCHASES WILL COME OUT OF THAT. SO IS THAT A PART OF THE 11,250?

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WHAT DO WE DO THAT THERE IS NO RECEIPT FOR MISSING. SO I THINK DEFINITELY WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING AND THERE'S NO. SO WE TURN THOSE IN. THERE'S NO IS THERE SOME SORT OF PROGRAM OR SOMETHING THAT'S OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN JUST KIND OF UPLOAD, I THINK CITY OF SOUTH FULTON, THEY MAY DO SOMETHING WHERE THEY UPLOAD RECEIPTS, AND I THINK THAT'LL KIND OF. MAYBE CUT OUT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE ACTUAL HAND IN PAPER IF WE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOME

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I KNOW WE GOT THE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THE THE OPEN GOV OR WHATEVER. I KNOW WE GOT SOME SORT OF SOFTWARE CREDIT CARD STUFF IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY USE AND IT MAY HELP OUT BECAUSE IF I CAN, IF I GO TO THE STORE AND I MAKE A PURCHASE, I CAN SNAP A PICTURE OF IT AND THEN UPLOAD IT TO YOU. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER LOOKING AT? AND I THINK THAT WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE MISSING RECEIPT FORMS. I'LL HAVE OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR SPEAK TO THAT. SO COUNCILMAN CUMMINGS, YES, THE CONCUR PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE YOUR CELL PHONE TO UPLOAD THE RECEIPT, AND THEN IT'LL GO INTO THAT BILLING CYCLE, AND THEN SHE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL IT OVER WHEN SHE'S CREATING HER REQUISITION. OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP HER OFFICE OUT A WHOLE LOT I YIELD. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I THINK EVERYTHING WE JUST DISCUSSED, I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVEN LAST MEETING, WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT, DETERMINE WHAT'S AUTHORIZED AND WHAT'S NOT AUTHORIZED. SO WE JUST CAN'T PUT ALL OF THAT ON STAFF. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. AND THEN I KNOW THE ASKING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THIS HAPPENED. I GUESS WE'VE NEVER BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAD TO DETERMINE WHAT IS CONSIDERED AUTHORIZED, NOT AUTHORIZED. SO WHAT HAPPENED IF I DON'T GET A RECEIPT? RECEIPT? I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT THOSE POLICIES IN PLACE AND AND ACTUALLY MAKE THEM ENFORCEABLE. SO EVEN RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT IF THAT HAPPENS AND IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING AND THERE'S NO REPERCUSSION? I DO THINK THAT'S ON US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF POLICY SO WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THESE RULES. EVEN LAST MINUTE. I SUGGESTED THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND I WAS KIND OF LISTENING TO EVERYONE WAS SAYING, I DO THINK WE CAN HAVE A FORENSIC AUDITOR, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE ONE PERSON WORKING ON IT. THEY SHOULD WORK WITH MAYBE THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. SO THERE'S MORE THAN ONE SET OF EYES ON THESE REPORTS EVERY MONTH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE SOMEWHAT OF A COMPROMISE. BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SET THESE RULES, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ENFORCE THE RULES WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT. SO I KNOW WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME STUFF, BUT A LOT OF IT, I THINK QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED TONIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S CLEAR AND WRITING AND ENFORCEABLE. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND TO SORT OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL TALKED ABOUT, I THINK THAT DOES NEED TO BE SOME SORT OF VETTING PROCESS IN PLACE FOR JUST CREDIT CARD PURCHASES. AND NO, IT SHOULDN'T. AT ONE TIME, I DID SUGGEST, I THINK I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AND THEY HAVE AT LEAST ADMINISTRATOR OR IF WE HAVE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF VETTING PROCESS IN PLACE FOR A AND I CALL IT A GO AND A NO GO LIST. I DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S HARD TO BLUR THE LINES ON WHAT WE SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE USING THESE CARDS FOR, BUT I DO DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE NEED SOME SORT OF VETTING PROCESS IN PLACE TO SAY WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED, EVEN THOUGH, I MEAN, I THINK AS A BODY, WE ALL WE KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT USE THE CARDS FOR.

BUT IN THOSE INSTANCES WHEN THE CARD IS USED FOR THINGS THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE USED FOR, THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF PENALTY. DEFINITELY SOME SORT OF PAYBACK, AND MAYBE SOME SORT OF PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE ALONG THE WAY WITH THAT. AND LIKE YOU SAID, I DON'T THINK I EVEN KNOW THE MAYOR HAD EVEN SUGGESTED BEFORE WHEN I SUGGESTED YOU THAT WE SHOULDN'T PUT THAT ON YOU. AND I'M AND I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT SOMEBODY OR SOMEONE OR A GROUP NEEDS TO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF VETTING PROCESS IN PLACE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM TIME TO TIME, CARDS COULD BE USED. AND FOR THEIR UNINTENDED PURPOSES. SO I JUST THINK DEFINITELY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH REGARDS TO THAT. I YIELD. SO. THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CLEARLY PROHIBITED FROM USE OF CITY CREDIT CARD, CAN'T BUY GIFT CARDS, CAN'T SPEND CITY MONEY. USE CREDIT CARDS FOR BEER, WINE, ALCOHOL LIKE THERE'S A CURRENT CREDIT CARD POLICY. THERE'S STATE LAW. LIKE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE. AND I KNOW WE'RE

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LIKE THAT. THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. AND SO THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THAT, BUT THERE'S CLEARLY SOME THINGS THAT JUST CAN'T BE DONE. AND YOU KNOW, WE PAY STAFF PRETTY WELL IN THE CITY. AND THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT IF WE'RE PROCESSING CREDIT CARD BILLS AND PAYMENTS AND RECEIPTS, THAT I MEAN, I'VE WORKED IN GOVERNMENT PROBABLY OVER TWO DECADES AND OR NON-PROFITS AND I'VE HAD CARDS, I'VE HAD CREDIT CARDS. I'VE HAD ALL THE THINGS AND HAVE TO SUBMIT EXPENSE REPORTS AND SPREADSHEET WITH THE RECEIPT, LIKE, BUT A RECEIPT IS REQUIRED. AND IF THERE'S A QUESTION ON THE RECEIPT, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT IT'S LOOKED INTO. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE INFAMOUS JEAN WILSON ALWAYS SAYS INSPECT WHAT YOU EXPECT. IF NOT, YOU GET NOTHING. AND SO YOU KNOW THAT EXPECTATION CLEARLY NEEDS TO BE MET WITH SOMETHING ELSE. BUT LET'S NOT SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE WE DON'T KNOW THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE PROHIBITED AND THAT THERE CURRENTLY EXIST ANY OF THE CREDIT CARD POLICY, STATE LAW. LIKE WHEN WE SIGN OFF FOR THESE THINGS, THERE'S SOME THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS, IF NOT A LOT, THAT ARE CLEARLY LISTED. AND SO I THINK ON THE NOVEMBER WORK SESSION, I THINK THERE'S A CONTINUATION OF IT. AND NO, MISS CARTWRIGHT JUST WENT OVER CREDIT CARD POLICY OR TRAVEL.

TRAVEL POLICY, CREDIT CARD. LIKE WE'RE DOING DIFFERENT ITERATIONS. AND SO THAT CAN STAY ON THE. WORK SESSION. BUT AS WE THINK ABOUT A PROCESS LIKE HAVING A COMMITTEE THAT THEN HAS TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE A MEETING, ARE WE GOING TO START HAVING SPECIAL MEETINGS, JUST ABOUT CREDIT CARDS, OR ARE WE GOING TO TIME THEM SO THAT THEY'RE COMING TO COUNCIL IF THERE ARE ISSUES? I'M NOT SAYING EVERYTHING. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE MEETINGS EVEN LONGER. LIKE IF WE'RE DOING EVERY SINGLE CHARGE.

AND SO THE VETTING HAPPENS AT THE STAFF LEVEL. THAT'S WHERE IT HAPPENS WITH ALL THE OTHER CREDIT CARD PURCHASES IN THE CITY, STAFF AND WHOEVER JUST THAT PERSON IS THAT SUPPORTING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, THEY BRING IT FORTH, THEY ELEVATE, THEY ESCALATE IT.

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AND THIS IS THE ADOPTED BUDGET. SO I'M FOLLOWING THIS ADOPTED BUDGET I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT EVERY MONTH BUT AT LEAST EVERY QUARTER. AND SPEAKING OF ADOPTED BUDGET, DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ONLINE OR IS IT ALREADY? YES, SIR. IT'S ALREADY UP ON THE INTERNET ON THE WEBSITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. CATHERINE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE OUR CURRENT CREDIT CARD POLICY AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY DO HAVE ON THERE. THEY'RE FOR CASH ADVANCES, PERSONAL PURCHASES, GASOLINE PURCHASES OR VEHICLE REPAIRS UNLESS OUTSIDE THE SERVICE AREA AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR ITEMS THAT ARE PROHIBITED. THE ONLY THING THAT I'M SEEING IS, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE WHICH ARE THESE HERE THAT ARE STATED, BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF VETTING PROCESS IN PLACE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IF IT'S IF IT'S CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS MAY BE PAID AND THERE'S THERE'S NO RECEIPT, THAT'S PART OF THE VETTING PROCESS. SO WHATEVER OR HOWEVER WE LOOK AT IT, IT NEEDS TO BE A VETTING PROCESS IN PLACE. WHO DOES IT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE IT IN PLACE. AND I UNDERSTAND, MADAM CITY CLERK, I MEAN, SHE IS DOING YOU KNOW,

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NOW, WHETHER IT'S A CHARGE OR SOMETHING THAT SHE MAY. WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED, I DON'T KNOW. AND IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO PLACE THAT ON HER. I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE PLACED ON SOMEBODY JUST TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE JUST TO DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW. AND IF THERE ARE SOME ISSUES OR CONCERNS, IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION AS OPPOSED TO JUST HERE. AND PURCHASES ARE MADE AND THE BILL IS JUST PAID EVERY MONTH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING I YIELD. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, THANK YOU. AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION. SOME OF IT I AGREE WITH. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHEN I WAS ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER. I HAD TO SIGN OFF FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO RECEIVE THE CREDIT CARD THAT HAD A LIST OF THAT HAD QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION RELATING TO THE CARD, AND THEN I HAD TO. TAKE AN OATH OF OFFICE. IT'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF A DISCUSSION. HOWEVER, WHAT I HAVEN'T HEARD WAS THE TALK ABOUT EDUCATING COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE PURCHASING, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ON OWNERSHIP OF EDUCATING COUNCIL MEMBERS. TO THE POINT OF THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE PURCHASING LIKE TO SOME DEGREE. IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT COUNCIL PERSON TO DECIDE WHAT CHARGES THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE. SO WHILE YOU'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATING.

AND MAYBE IT COULD OCCUR EVERY YEAR AT THOSE COUNCIL RETREATS WE REVIEW THE CREDIT CARD POLICY. BUT AT SOME POINT OWNERSHIP HAS TO BE PLACED BACK ON THE COUNCIL MEMBER. I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE CREDIT CARDS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY DISCUSSION ON EDUCATING COUNCIL MEMBERS OR PUTTING OWNERSHIP BACK ON THE PERSON THAT HAS THE CREDIT CARD. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PARKER.

THANK YOU. AND LET ME SAY THIS. WE ALL TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT WE SHOULD NOT PURCHASE. AND THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT GROCERY STORES. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU HAVE EVENTS AND YOU'RE DOING THINGS AND YOU SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE THEM AND YOU PURCHASE THINGS WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD, JUST LIKE I PURCHASED THINGS WITH MY CREDIT CARD FOR THE EVENTS THAT I HAVE.

SO I DON'T THINK NO ONE IS. WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY I'M NOT JUST WILLY NILLY GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE BUYING GROCERIES. IF YOU'RE HAVING AN EVENT AND WHATEVER THAT MONTH IS, AND I'M GOING TO USE WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN BECAUSE IT GOES FROM MAY TO AUGUST. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CREDIT CARD, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL WHAT'S GOING ON DURING THAT TIME FRAME. AND THERE IS NO CRIME TO USE AMAZON. I THINK EVERYBODY USES AMAZON, AND I DO GET THINGS FROM AMAZON, AND I DO GET THINGS THAT ARE IN PEOPLE'S RIDERS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE. SO I'M JUST NOT WILLY NILLY JUST GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT'S IN THERE. RIDERS, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS THAT TELLS YOU WHAT THEY HAVE TO USE, THE SOUND THEY HAVE TO USE, THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS. AND FAR AS TRAVEL, I THINK I TRAVEL LESS, PROBABLY TWICE. NLC AND SAVANNAH. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT FACTS OR YOU'RE GOING TO STATE THINGS, STATE THE TRUTH. BECAUSE WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU DID WHEN YOU SERVED YOUR ONE TERM, WHICH WAS NOTHING. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO A POINT. SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EARLIER, I THINK WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NOTIFYING COUNCIL WOULD LOOK

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ADOPTED BUDGET BOOK. BUT ON PAGE THREE IT SAYS FISCAL YEAR 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH IS THE SAME THING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THE OTHER THING, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ALL OF THE PAGES JUST BECAUSE I WAS JUST MADE AWARE THAT IT'S HERE. THE ALLEGED ADOPTED BUDGET IS 150 PAGES. YES, MA'AM. THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WAS BEFORE COUNCIL WHEN COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION IS 378 PAGES. SO THE ALLEGED ADOPTED BUDGET IS 228 PAGES LESS. THOSE ARE THE DETAILED LINES THAT WERE REMOVED. THEY WERE REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET WAS ONLINE IS A SUMMARY.

THERE'S NOT ONE LINE ITEM ON THIS ADOPTED BUDGET. THERE'S NOT ONE PAGE. AND I SCROLL THROUGH THEM QUICKLY THAT SHOWS REVENUES. ALL OF THIS IS IN NARRATIVE FORMAT. THEN I'M SCROLLING QUICKLY, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE DEPARTMENT LINE ITEMS. THAT IS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. YES, MA'AM. THAT IS 378 PAGES. AND THIS. DOCUMENT THAT IS ALLEGEDLY THE ADOPTED BUDGET I'M SCROLLING THROUGH. I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS IN LINE ITEMS. YES. IT IS NOT AN APPROVED THIS ISN'T ADOPTED BUDGET. YOU'RE CORRECT. THE DETAIL LINES WERE REMOVED FROM THE ADOPTED BUDGET. AND I GUESS HISTORICALLY THAT HAD BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT ON. IF I IF I GO BACK AND PULL UP FISCAL YEAR 25 ADOPTED BUDGET OR 24 LIKE THIS ISN'T A BUDGET. THIS IS A NARRATIVE. CORRECT. SO IF ANYBODY WENT ON AND TRIED TO LOOK AT A DEPARTMENT BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED, IT'S NOT IN THIS

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[XIII. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

[XIV.15. Council Discussion and Possible Action of Vendor Gametime, from Cooperative Agreement OMNIA Partners, for Sumner and Colonial Hills Unity Park Playground Upgrades and Sykes Park Tennis and Pickleball Facility. CIP APPROVED and CIP FUNDING SOURCE; Amount Not to Exceed $151,000]

ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN, MR. JONES. WHICH ITEM ARE WE ON AGAIN? YEAH. SO THIS ITEM 15 IS ON PARKS, PLEASE. PARKS AND REC. I'M SORRY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY AGENDA ITEM. I KNOW LAST WEEK MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR SPOKE ABOUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE TO SOME OF OUR CITY PARKS. HE WAS ADVISED AT THAT TIME TO GO TO A COMMUNITY MEETING AT COLONIAL HILLS UNITY PARK. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. WE PROVIDED THE RENDERINGS OF THE CHANGE THAT WE WERE MAKING. IT WAS ALSO A RECOMMENDATION TO ENHANCE ANOTHER FEATURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SATISFY AS WELL. BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, EVERYTHING WAS WELL, EXCUSE ME, WELL RECEIVED. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ON 15 ABOUT THE UPGRADES, I THINK. YEAH, IT WAS THREE SPACES. ZIEGLER, COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. WHEN YOU HAVE THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND I KNOW IT CAME UP MAYBE LAST WEEK, YOU SPEAK WITH THE RESIDENTS OF CENTER PARK AS WELL AS SUMNER SUMNER PARK, UNITY PARK OVER IN WARD B. YES. AND AT THAT TIME, DO THEY? BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME BEFORE YOU SUBMITTED THE THE NEW PLAYGROUNDS. YES. AND IT CAME UP THE CONVERSATION SAID TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY CAN KNOW WHAT KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PARK TO GET THEIR INPUT. YES. HAVE THAT HAPPENED? YES. SPECIFICALLY CENTER PARK. I PRESENTED TO CENTER PARK PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO OF THE PLANS. WE WERE MAKING CAPITAL REQUESTS AT THAT TIME. WE WERE APPLYING FOR GRANTS THAT WE DID NOT GET, AND ONCE THE CAPITAL MONEY WAS APPROVED, WE WENT FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. BUT I'M A FREQUENT VISITOR AT ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT UPDATES THAT WE HAVE. 95% OF THE TIME.

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COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. YES. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO, DIRECTOR PICKETT FOR OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. BUT VERY QUICK. DO THESE UPGRADES INCLUDE ADA COMPLIANCE? SO YES, THE PARTICULAR PLAYGROUND FEATURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH COLONIAL UNITY, IT DOES HAVE THAT AS A AS A PART OF IT. THE SWING SET INITIALLY THAT WE CHANGED OUT PROBABLY ABOUT 6 OR 7 MONTHS AGO WAS NOT ACCESSIBLE. SO THAT FEATURE WAS ADDED AS IT PERTAINS TO THE THE SWINGS. AND THEN THE PLAYGROUND PIECE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THOSE COMPONENTS AS PART OF IT. ALRIGHT. AND THEN A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT IS, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT SPECIAL NEEDS POPULATION OF STUDENTS IN AND AROUND EASTPOINTE. IS THERE SOMETHING GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED OR INSTITUTED ON THESE PLAYGROUNDS FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS POPULATION? MAYBE NOT JUST YET, BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF OUR PARKS, ALSO INCLUDING THOSE QUIET SPACES OR SPACES SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS THAT POPULATION OF STUDENTS? YES. SO BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 24, WE INITIALLY STARTED THE PRESCHOOL ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND SPACES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DO AT THAT TIME IS INSTALLED A LOT OF AUTO SENSORY EQUIPMENT, ALONG WITH THE ACCESSIBILITY PASS TO ACTUALLY ENTER THE PLAY SPACES. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. WHEN I'M ATTENDING THESE CONFERENCES, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT NEW TECHNOLOGY. THEY MADE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND DIFFERENT ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE IN SOME OF OUR SMALLER PARKS TO ADDRESS FAMILIES THAT HAVE THOSE CONCERNS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR PINKARD. AND I KNOW THAT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ANDERSON IS NOT HERE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK HIM FOR ATTENDING THE COLONIAL HILLS MEETING LAST WEEK AND PRESENTING THIS. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE ENHANCEMENTS OR THE CHANGES THAT WILL HAPPEN FOR UNITY PARK. I BELIEVE THAT THE RESIDENTS CURRENTLY HAVE TWO SLIDES, AND THE NEW EQUIPMENT WAS ONLY FOR ONE. AND IT'S TRUE, IT'S TRUE. IT WAS JUST THE ANGLE OF THE RENDERING.

BUT THERE ARE TWO SLIDES OKAY. SO THEY WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TWO SLIDES. SO IT WOULD BE REPLACED OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. I CAN'T RECALL WHICH PARKS WILL BE GETTING EV CHARGING STATIONS, BUT WILL EITHER OF THESE AN ITEM NUMBER 15 I FEEL LIKE AT LEAST. YEAH. SO I CALL THEM OUR BANNER PARKS. THOSE ARE BIGGER ACREAGE PARKS. SO RIGHT OFF TOP IT WAS JOHN MILNER, BROOKDALE SUMNER AND JEFFERSON REC. SO I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION WHEN I WAS PRESENTING IT, A COUPLE COUNCIL MEETINGS BACK THERE, ACTUALLY TWO CHARGING PORTS PER STATION. I THINK YOU ASKED, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE, BUT

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SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. THERE IS A ASK FROM PARKS AND REC THAT WE APPROVE VENDOR GAIN TIME FROM THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT OF OMNIA PARTNERS FOR SUMNER AND COLONIAL HILLS, UNITY PARK, PLAYGROUND UPGRADES AND SITES, PARK TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL FACILITY FUNDED AND APPROVED THROUGH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN NOT TO EXCEED $151,000. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL

[XIV.16. Council Review and Approval of the Intergovernmental Agreement for MARTA's Safe Routes to Transit Bus Stop and Pedestrian Improvements. No Cost is Associated with the Agreement]

I DID GET SOME EMAILS ON THAT ONE OF THOSE STATIONS. YES, MA'AM. I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THAT MIGHT HAVE PARTIALLY CLOSED. SO HERE'S SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THAT I HAVE. AND WELL, THAT RESIDENTS HAVE THERE. ONE IS ONE SIDE OF THE MARTA STATION THAT SUPPOSEDLY THE GATES DON'T WORK AND ANYBODY IS JUST COMING IN. SECONDLY, THAT LEADS UP TO THE BRIDGE WHERE THEY SAID THERE WAS SOMEONE SLEEPING UP UNDER THE BRIDGE, SLEEPING IN THE BRIDGE, AND THAT AND I KNOW THE CITY WORKS TO CLEAN IT, KEEP IT CLEAN. I DO KNOW THAT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. BUT I GUESS IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST URINATING UNDER THE BRIDGE AND OVER THE BRIDGE, AND IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE RATHER NOT EVEN TAKE THE BRIDGE.

THEY WOULD GO ANOTHER ROUTE. SO WHO CAN WE TALK TO? ONE IN REFERENCE TO IF THERE IS A GATE THAT'S OPEN, THAT'S ALLOWING PEOPLE TO COME IN AND THEY SAY IT, MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE POLICE, POSSIBLY GANG ACTIVITY. SO WHO CAN WE TALK TO WITH MARTA TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TRAIN STATION IS SAFE? I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE GATE INFORMATION, BUT WE WE'LL WE'LL REACH OUT IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT THERE'S SOME INFORMATION CAN BE SENT TO US, WE WILL REACH OUT IN REFERENCE TO THE GATE THAT MIGHT BE IN QUESTION. I DON'T THINK IT'S PART OF US, BUT WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM. ALSO, THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE UNHOUSED THERE, THERE HAS BEEN AN UNHOUSED INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS SLEEPING UNDERNEATH THE STEPS THAT GO UP THE BY THE ELEVATORS.

THEY WERE SLEEPING DOWN THERE. AND AND THERE IS SOME STUFF THAT GOES ON. WE DEFINITELY CLEAN THE ELEVATORS. PEOPLE THROW TRASH IN THERE, DEFECATE IN THERE, URINATE IN THERE.

EACH YEAR WE HAVE TO WE END UP HAVING TO PAY FOR GOING DOWN UNDERNEATH THE ELEVATOR PIT AND HAVING TO GET IT CLEANED OUT. IF THERE'S ANY MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THE COMPANY THAT DOES THAT WON'T EVEN DO IT UNTIL WE GET THAT PART DONE. SO WE DO A LOT OF THINGS. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR SINCE 2004 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT IS THE MARTA PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, AND

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SO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES THE MONITORING OF THE BRIDGE AS WELL. SO. YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

WHAT WAS I HEARING? OH. COUNCIL MEMBER. HEY, MR. REEVES, HOW ARE YOU? HOW YOU DOING, COUNCILMAN MITCHELL? GOOD. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, DO YOU GUYS COLLABORATE WITH THE MARTA POLICE? DON'T THEY HAVE THEM STATIONED OVER THERE? IS THAT SOMEWHERE THEIR JOB? THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE WHO THAT IS OUT THERE. LET'S SEE. WHO DO WE? YEAH, BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE ONE GAME. I'M NOT SURE HOW HOW MUCH REVENUE WE GET FROM THE MARTA STATION, BUT I KNOW FOR SURE ONE OF THOSE GATES ARE OPEN 24 OVER SEVEN, SO I'M NOT SURE WHO WHO WHO YOU'RE COLLABORATING WITH WITH MARTA, OR IF THIS IS EVEN SOMETHING YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY HELP WITH. HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE, COUNCILMAN. MITCHELL. COUNCIL CAPTAIN. CAPTAIN ROBINSON, DO YOU KNOW IF WE COLLABORATE WITH MARTA POLICE OR THE MARTA STATION? MORE THAN LIKELY TO BE THE PRECINCT COMMANDER. OH, AND THEN WE GOT COPELAND. COME ON. YES. GOOD EVENING, CAPTAIN COPELAND. MAJOR. HI. STILL HAVEN'T LEARNED THE SIMPLE YET. I'M GETTING THERE. MAJOR COPELAND, COUNCILMAN MITCHELL ASKED, DO WE COLLABORATE WITH THE POLICE FOR SAFETY AT EAST POINT MARTA STATION? OKAY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN? BASICALLY, I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN ACTIVITIES GOING ON AT THE MARTA STATION, AND I KNOW THEY DO HAVE MARTA POLICE SPECIFICALLY THERE FOR THAT. I KNOW WE CAN'T PUT EVERYTHING ON YOU GUYS, BUT I'M ASKING, DO YOU COLLABORATE WITH WITH THEM TO CLEAN UP, KEEP AN EYE ON SOME OF THIS STUFF? YES. WHEN THEY ONCE THEY CONTACTED US. WE DO ASSIST THEM ONLY WHEN THEY ASK US. OKAY. ARE THEY OVER THERE 24 OVER SEVEN OR ARE THEY PERMANENTLY THERE OR ARE THEY JUST AT CERTAIN HOURS OF THE DAY? BECAUSE WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE THE MARTA POLICE.

OKAY. THE MARTA POLICE. BUT YOU. I THOUGHT YOU WAS ASKING ABOUT THE THE BRIDGE OR SOMETHING.

PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR SOMETHING. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. YEAH. PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, I MEAN, SO SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. I KNOW SOMETIMES I'VE SEEN THEM. AND THEN YOU SEE KIDS IN FRONT OF THE MARTA STATION OR, YOU KNOW, SMOKING AND DOING ALL KIND OF OTHER KIND OF STUFF, AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY HERE FOR? OKAY. BUT YEAH, WHEN WE SEE THAT, WE CONTACT MARTA BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. IN FRONT OF THE STATION.

YES. WE JUST CONTACT THEM TO HANDLE ANYTHING ON THEIR PROPERTY. BUT IF THEY ASK US FOR OUR ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HESITATE. YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW. YEAH.

BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, AS SOON AS YOU LEAVE, THEN I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT'S CONSIDERED. MURDER PROPERTY AND THEN EASTPOINT PROPERTY. BUT I KNOW DEFINITELY FOR SOME OF THE STUFF THAT GOES ON THE MARTA, THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE AND I'M JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? AND AND I GUESS, DO YOU. THEY'RE SUPER LIKE, WHO SUPERVISES THEM IS THERE? LIKE, I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE A LOT OF OFFICERS HIERARCHY. YEAH. YEAH I MEAN YEAH THEIR COMMANDERS. BUT WE DO HAVE A MOU WITH THEM. MATTER OF FACT THEY HOUSE OUR INMATES IN OUR JAIL. SO WE DEFINITELY WORK WITH THEM. OKAY. OKAY, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH.

I'M DONE. THANKS. ALRIGHT. STAFF IS ASKING THAT WE APPROVE THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR MARTA. SAFE ROUTES TO TRANSIT, BUS STOP AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, MADAM.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HATE TO, I KNOW I LIKE TO WALK AWAY, BUT YOU DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE STANTON ROAD. YES. LAST WEEK.

YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED TO INFORM YOU I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF. I DON'T THINK THEY INFORMED YOU LAST WEEK THAT WE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT PART OF THE CROSSWALK WITH THE BEACON SYSTEM GOING ON TO THE MARTA. SO WHEN MARTA DIDN'T HAVE THAT ADDED IN, I WHEN I TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT IT, THEY MARTA SAID THEY MAY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IT IN ON THIS YEAR. BUT THEY WERE LOOKING INTO THE BUDGET. SO OUR STAFF, WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE DID A DESIGN.

[XIV.17. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Facade Grant Awards/Contracts]

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. I PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THE PRIOR TO ME

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WHAT'S THE FC ON THE END? SORRY, MAYOR, THAT'S JUST FINANCE OFFICE OR DEPARTMENT WAY OF IDENTIFYING IT SO FAR. FACADE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THE LIST DOES NOT INCLUDE THE POTENTIAL GRANTEE THAT IT WAS INDICATED. GENERAL FUNDS WOULD BE HAVE TO BE USED FOR. THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S NOT INCLUDED. SO THAT'S NOT INCLUDED ON THE LIST THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. YES, MA'AM. BUT THE OTHER AWARDS ARE WITH THE SPECIFIC AMOUNTS. AND SO AS I REVIEW THESE IN, I CAN BE ABLE TO COMPARE THEM WITH THE AMOUNTS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED AS WELL AS THE CONTRACT TEMPLATE THAT'S BEING USED. THE ASK IS FOR COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPROVE THE FACADE GRANT AWARDS THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE PACKET, AS WELL AS THE CONTRACT TEMPLATE THAT'S BEING USED FOR EACH OF THESE. COUNCIL MEMBER MIKE ROGERS. ALL RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE FACADE GRANT AWARDS CONTRACTS REFLECTED IN THE PACKET AND THE TEMPLATE NOT TO EXCEED $600,000. SECOND, AND THEN PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS

[XIV.18. Council Discussion and Possible Action on a Resolution Authorizing the Execution of the Legal Services' Agreement Related to AFFF/PFAS Litigation Services]

THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ATTORNEY WIGGINS. FOR THAT LAST ITEM THAT JUST GOT APPROVED. NO TEAM FOR YOUR ITEM. OH, THE MOTION WAS TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. I THOUGHT IT WAS TO APPROVE IT. THANK YOU. SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY. I WAS LIKE, GREAT. IT GOT APPROVED WITHOUT DISCUSSION. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT OUR LITIGATION. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE A PART OF A LARGER GROUP OF CITIES, COUNTIES THAT HAVE JOINED TO SEEK. RETRIBUTION, IF YOU WILL, FROM THREE M IN DUPONT. THIS AGREEMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH THE YES THAT THE CITY GAVE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LAST YEAR SOMETIME. AND SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THIS ACTION AS WE DISCUSSED IT AT THE LAST MEETING. THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE RIGHTFULLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIRM, WHO IS GOING TO ASSIST WITH THE SUBSEQUENT STEPS, WHICH INCLUDE THE TESTING AND ALSO THE SECURING OF THE FUNDS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION FOR CITY ATTORNEY, IF NOT COUNCILMAN MIKE ROGERS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT RELATED TO A. SLASH AS LITIGATION SERVICES. PROPERLY

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[XIV.19. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Vendor Southern Computer Warehouse from GA State Contract 99999-SPD0000172-014 for the Purchase and Installation of Police Department Building Access Systems, NOT TO EXCEED: $283,814.27 FUNDING SOURCE: 350- 3210541012-00 CIP]

CITY MANAGER. AND DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCIL? YES. PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. I HAVE TWO PERSONNEL.

ONE LEGAL. LET ME CHECK MY PHONE. CHECK YOUR PHONE. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO

[XV. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

MOTION CARRIES. NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. MEETING MINUTES. SO MOVED. SECOND. BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES NEED. OH. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AY

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