Nov 03, 2025 City Council

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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL.

[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]

COUNCIL MEMBER. FREELEY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER.

CUMMINGS. PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM. MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUTLER AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. PRESENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM MITCHELL, WE HAVE A QUORUM. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR THE INVOCATION TONIGHT? I DON'T SEE PASTOR MOBLEY. SO IF WE CAN ALL STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG.

[V. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS - Capt. Robinson]

ALL RIGHT. OUR SERGEANT TONIGHT, SERGEANT AT ARMS, IS CAPTAIN ROBERTSON.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE COUNCIL AGENDA?

[VI. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

THE MOTION PASSED. AND NEXT, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO ADOPT? THE COUNCIL MINUTES FROM THE SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.

SO MOVED. SECOND. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

I ALSO SEE WE IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE COUNCIL?

[VII. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES]

SECOND. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. NEXT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

[VIII.1. Public Hearing on Capital Improvement Element on Impact Fee Program ]

YES. WE'LL HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF WATER AND SEWER.

WALK THROUGH, I GUESS A MEMO THAT JUST WAS RELEASED TO THE COUNCIL THIS AFTERNOON.

MR.. PRO TEM, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, I'LL READ THE PUBLIC HEARING RULES. THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. GO AHEAD. YOU WANT ME TO DO IT NOW? YES, MA'AM. IT'S RULE 29.

PUBLIC HEARINGS SHALL BE ADVERTISED AS PER ORDINANCE.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING.

THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBJECT WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.

THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE SUBJECT WILL SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES.

EACH SPEAKER WILL. THEN EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.

SPEAKERS MAY GIVE A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER.

AFTER ALL OF THOSE PRESENT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, RESIDENTS WILL BE GIVEN FIRST PRIORITY TO SPEAK.

AFTER ALL, RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN GIVEN PRIORITY TO SPEAK. NONRESIDENTS MAY SPEAK BY MAJORITY VOTE.

THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR EACH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT TO A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES PER SIDE.

EACH SIDE WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, AND SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENTS ON IMPACT FEE PROGRAM? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MR. CITY MANAGER IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW.

YES, WE'LL HAVE OUR WATER RESOURCES DIRECTOR COME UP AND GIVE AN OVERVIEW.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT A PUBLIC HEARING SHALL BE HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT CITY HALL AT 2757 EAST POINT STREET, EAST POINT, GEORGIA, ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER THE 3RD, 2025 AT 6:30 P.M., BEFORE EAST POINT COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TRANSMITTING A DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT AS REQUIRED FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM TO THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION FOR REGIONAL AND STATE REVIEW PURSUANT TO GEORGIA PLANNING ACT OF 1989. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH OCGA 3670 1-6 AND CHAPTER 110 12 DASH 2-.04 OF STATE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.

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TODAY I HAVE PAIGE HATLEY OF ROSS AND ASSOCIATES.

THIS WAS THE SELECTED FARM AND VENDOR TO DEVELOP AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM FOR ADOPTION.

MISS PAIGE HATLEY. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.

JUST HAVE A BRIEF POWERPOINT TO ACT AS A OR EXPAND ON THE INTRODUCTION TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW REGARDING THE REASON FOR THE HEARING AND SUMMARY OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT DOCUMENT.

SO THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S HEARING IS TO RECEIVE COMMENT.

AS MELISSA MENTIONED ON A DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT.

A CI IS WHAT IT'S KNOWN SHORTHAND. IT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF ANY COMMUNITY THAT WISHES TO INITIATE AND MAINTAIN A DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE PROGRAM. ULTIMATELY, IF THE CITY ENDS UP MOVING FORWARD AND ADOPTING AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM, THE CI IS THE DOCUMENT THAT IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE FUNDING.

IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY DCA, AND PART OF THEIR REVIEW PROCESS INCLUDES A PUBLIC HEARING.

ULTIMATELY, IF IT IS ADOPTED, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME PART OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND SPECIFICALLY THE CITY HAS ELECTED TO LOOK AT PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AS THE FOCUS OF THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE STUDY. SO THE CE DRAFT DOCUMENT IDENTIFIES FUTURE NEEDS IN TERMS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS PERTAINING TO ROADS, PARKS AND PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDED TO SERVE FUTURE GROWTH OVER THE COMING DECADES.

THE NEEDS ARE BASED ON POPULATION, HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT FORECASTS, AS WELL AS WHAT SERVICES ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT HOW MANY PLAYGROUNDS ARE IN PLACE? HOW MANY FIRE TRUCKS? WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT FUTURE GROWTH IS GOING TO NEED TO BENEFIT FROM SIMILAR SERVICES? SO WE LOOK AT WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

WE LOOK AT PROJECTED GROWTH. AND THEN ALSO WE HAD SIGNIFICANT INPUT FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS REGARDING KNOWN PLANS OR PROJECTS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING.

THE SEE IS LONG RANGE IN SCOPE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO IDENTIFY NEAR-TERM PROJECTS.

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE. THOSE PROJECTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

UNDERSTANDING THAT IMPLEMENTATION YEARS AND PROJECT COSTS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE SEE, OF COURSE, SUBJECT TO CHANGE THE SEA PROVIDES THE BASELINE FOR THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS TO ACTUALLY CALCULATE THE MAXIMUM FEES THAT COULD BE CHARGED TO HELP PAY FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE SEA.

BUT THIS DOCUMENT ITSELF HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FEE CALCULATIONS.

THAT'S NOT THE PURVIEW OF DCA. THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE THE OVERALL PROJECT LISTING AND WHETHER IT MEETS THEIR REQUIRED STANDARDS AS IT, AS WE PROGRESS IN THE OVERALL STUDY.

OOPS. OKAY. SO THIS IS WE'VE GOT EXCERPTED TABLES FOR EACH OF THE PUBLIC FACILITY CATEGORIES.

THIS COMES FROM THE CE DOCUMENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THERE'S TEXT AND OTHER TABLES THAT COME BEFORE THE SUMMARY TABLES THAT WE'RE SHOWING BUT WANTED TO IDENTIFY THE, THE SUMMARY TABLES THAT COME AT THE END OF EACH PUBLIC FACILITY CHAPTER TO INDICATE PROJECT NEEDS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE FUNDING.

AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WHAT YOU SEE IS BASED ON WHAT TYPE OF COMPONENTS ARE CURRENTLY SERVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT ARE KNOWN NEEDS.

AND THEN COMPARED TO PROJECTED GROWTH, HOW MANY MORE, FOR EXAMPLE, PLAYGROUNDS AND TRAILS ARE NEEDED TO SERVE FUTURE GROWTH.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE HAVE COST ESTIMATES ESTIMATED YEARS OF IMPLEMENTATION.

AND THEN THE PERCENT THAT PROJECTS ARE IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE, ANYTHING LESS THAN 100% MEANS THAT WE CANNOT ATTRIBUTE THE FULL COST OF THAT PROJECT TO FUTURE GROWTH.

THERE MAY BE A DEFICIENCY IN CURRENT SERVICES.

THERE MAY NOT BE A NEED FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENTS BASED ON PROJECTED GROWTH.

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SO FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AGAIN ANOTHER SUMMARY TABLE.

LOOKING AT NEEDS BASED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT INPUT FOR ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS AS WELL AS APPARATUS.

AND THEN FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE IS AN IDENTIFIED NEED FOR IDEALLY A BACKUP CENTER FOR E-911 OPERATIONS FUTURE BUILDING EXPANSION, WHETHER THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL POLICE PRECINCT OR EXPANSION OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER.

AND THEN A HEAVY VEHICLE THAT'S ONLY PARTIALLY IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE.

YOU DO NOT SEE UNDER LAW ENFORCEMENT SQUAD CARS BY STATE LAW ANY PROJECTS HAVE TO HAVE A SERVICE LIFE OF AT LEAST TEN YEARS. AND SO DUE TO THE WEAR AND TEAR ON PATROL VEHICLES, WE CAN ONLY INCLUDE HEAVIER, SPECIALIZED VEHICLES SUCH AS A MOBILE COMMAND CENTER WHEN IT COMES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

OOPS, SORRY. AND THEN FINALLY, FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS LOOKING AT THE YOU HAVE A 2020 COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THE SOUTH FULTON REGION THAT'S IN PLACE. OF COURSE, IT'S BEING UPDATED. BUT THAT IN WORKING WITH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WAS THE SOURCE FOR SOME CAPACITY ADDING ROAD PROJECTS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE FUNDS.

IMPACT FEES CAN'T BE USED FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE.

CAN'T BE USED FOR REPAVING OR ANY RESTRIPING.

BUT IT'S FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE INTENDED TO GET MORE CARS ON THE ROAD AS YOU HAVE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, ROAD WIDENINGS, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, ETC..

WHAT CAN FACILITATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT IS ANTICIPATED TO COME ONLINE AS THE AREA GROWS? THIS ALSO BEARS IN MIND THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR TSPLOST PROGRAM.

THERE ARE MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR WITH FUNDING BUT THAT THERE ARE SOME THAT EITHER DON'T HAVE DEDICATED FUNDING UNDER THE CURRENT TSPLOST PROGRAM, OR PERHAPS THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS.

AND THAT'S WHERE IMPACT FEES CAN COME IN AS AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE.

AND THEN FINALLY JUST TO PLACE THE SEA RELATIVE TO THE OVERALL PROCESS OF CONSIDERING AND FINISHING AN IMPACT FEE STUDY THAT COULD LEAD TO ADOPTION OF IMPACT FEE PROGRAM.

ON TONIGHT'S COUNCIL AGENDA THERE IS A TRANSMITTAL RESOLUTION THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER TO AUTHORIZE THE DRAFT CITY TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION TO INITIATE THE REQUIRED REVIEW PROCESS THAT IS UPWARD OF ALMOST TWO MONTHS IS WHAT DCA WHO HAS TO REVIEW IT TYPICALLY INDICATES THEY NEED FOR THAT.

AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THE TRANSMITTAL OF THE DRAFT OF THE PROJECT BASED DOCUMENT, THEN WE SHIFT TO THE FEE CALCULATIONS THEMSELVES AS TO WHAT COULD BE CHARGED TO HELP PAY FOR THE PROJECTS IN THE CI. THAT WILL REQUIRE US TO RECONVENE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH IS WAS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE MET WITH THEM ONCE, AND WE ANTICIPATE TWO MORE MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT FEES AND WHAT THEY RECOMMEND.

AFTER WE FINISH OUR CALCULATIONS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FEE SITTING FEE SETTING DISCUSSIONS AND THEN A FEE SCHEDULE ABOUT A TWO PAGE FEE SCHEDULE WOULD BE PART OF A DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE.

THE ORDINANCE WILL BE A DETAILED DOCUMENT OUTLINING HOW TO ADMINISTER AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM AND WHAT THE FEES COULD BE TO BE CHARGED. THAT REQUIRES TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS UNDER STATE LAW.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY, THE CITY HAS APPROVED BY DCA AND THE ORDINANCE WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE, BOTH OF THOSE PIECES WOULD NEED TO BE LOCALLY ADOPTED.

AND THOSE ARE THE COMPONENTS NEEDED TO START AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM.

AND THEN OF COURSE, INTERNALLY THERE WOULD NEED TO BE STAFF TRAINING.

IF A PROGRAM IS ADOPTED AND THEN THE CITY WOULD BE IN THE BUSINESS OF COLLECTING IMPACT FEES.

SO THANK YOU. THAT IS JUST THE THE LAST THAT I HAD FOR AGAIN, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL OVERVIEW AS TO THE REASON FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE SEA ITSELF.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I SEE WE HAVE A COUPLE LIGHTS ON.

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FOR THAT INFORMATION. AND THANK YOU ALSO, DIRECTOR ECHEVERIA.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE IN TERMS OF THE ELEMENTS, WHEN YOU LISTED THOSE, WE'VE GOT LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRE, WE'VE GOT PARKS AND REC AND WE'VE GOT ROADS. AND SO OUR ROADS, A DEFINED TERM THAT WOULD INCLUDE SIDEWALKS AND BRIDGES OR WOULD THAT BE OR WOULD THOSE BE SEPARATE ELEMENTS BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF ROADS AND WHAT WE'D BE ABLE TO COLLECT FOR ROADS, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO GET MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.

RIGHT. AND SO THEN THAT COULD NECESSITATE OR WARRANT MORE SAFETY.

AND SO I.E. THE SIDEWALK, SO IS ROADS IN TERMS OF AN ELEMENT A DEFINED TERM.

AND WOULD IT INCLUDE SIDEWALKS AND BRIDGES. GREAT QUESTION.

IT'S AS IT'S DEFINED UNDER STATE LAW. IT DOES AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE BRIDGES.

BUT AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE A BRIDGE. YOU'RE ADDING LANES TO A BRIDGE, NOT JUST MAKING REPAIRS.

AS FAR AS SIDEWALKS, CERTAINLY IF THAT IS PART OF A ROAD PROJECT, LANDSCAPING, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT IS PART OF AN UMBRELLA ROAD PROJECT IS ELIGIBLE.

BUT OTHERWISE WE ALSO ADDRESS PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS OR INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER OUR PARKS AND RECREATION CHAPTER WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAILS PLAN. IN. SO WE DO ACCOUNT FOR PARK TRAILS AND OFF ROAD PLANNED TRAILS UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION.

BUT IF THERE IS A SIDEWALK PROJECT PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROAD PROJECT THAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE FUNDING THAT IS COVERED.

OKAY. YEP, THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ROGERS. YES, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT THIS NEEDED TO COME BACK BEFORE US, BUT HAS OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU? DIRECTOR. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

HAS OUR LEGAL. HAS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT? I KNOW THAT THIS THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE US.

CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. YES. WHEN? WHEN IT'S AN ORDINANCE.

ADOPTION TIME. YES. RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO SEND TO DCA AND ARC.

SO, YES, WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE MEETINGS AND MONTHS TO GO, BUT THIS IS JUST AS FAR AS WE'VE GOTTEN SINCE 2021.

SO YES, JUST A DRAFT PROPOSAL. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH ORDINANCE CHANGES AND EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD.

ON WITH THIS. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS I'M I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE CITYWIDE AM I CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

THE TIME IS NOW 651. IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS? IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS? IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS? SEEING THAT NO ONE HAS COME AS MADE IT KNOWN.

IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT. ONCE AGAIN, IS ANYONE HERE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NO ONE HAS COME FORWARD. IS THERE ANY OTHER ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON THIS TONIGHT? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES.

SO NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA.

[IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

ALL SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A COMMENT FORM AND PROVIDE A COMPLETE COMMENT FORM TO THE CITY CLERK BETWEEN 6:00 PM TO 6:25 P.M.

PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. SUBJECT MATTER MAY INCLUDE ANY SUBJECT OF CHOICE.

THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER, SO THE SPEAKER DESIRE TO GIVE HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER.

HE OR SHE MAY DO SO NOTING THAT THE SPEAKER SHALL RECEIVE THAT TIME, OR HIS OR HER COMMENT COMMENTS ON HIS OR HER COMMENT FORM, PROVIDED THAT THE SPEAKER, GIVEN HIS OR HER FORM, THAT HE OR SHE GIVES ALL A PART OF HIS OR HER TIME, UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME.

SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA.

SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESSES TO THE COUNCIL ONCE, THIS TIME DURING THE AGENDA.

SPEAKERS MUST. I'M SORRY. PRIOR TO SPEAKING, QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKER MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE

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THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA.

SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITY SHALL BE TOLERATED.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER RULED ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THIS FOREGOING.

MADAM CITY CLERK HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE? ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT? YES, WE HAVE SIX PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND UP FIRST WILL BE MISTER EDDIE LEE BREWSTER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CHAIRMAN.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. TOMORROW IS ELECTION DAY. WE CAN MAKE A STRONG STATEMENT.

TOMORROW WE COME OUT AND VOTE. I'M ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND VOTE EARLY.

VOTING HAS BEEN NOT TOO GOOD, BUT IT'S BEEN BETTER THAN IN THE PAST.

BUT I'M URGING ALL THESE VOTERS TO COME OUT AND VOTE TOMORROW, AND WE CAN MAKE A HISTORIC CHOICE IF WE REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. I'M. I'M ASKING EVERYBODY TO REELECT COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS AND COUNCILMAN SHAUN ATKINS, AND I'M ALSO MADAM MAYOR PRO TEM, MADAM. ONE SECOND.

CAN WE. CAN WE PAUSE THIS TIME REALLY QUICK? YEAH.

I THINK WE DO HAVE RULES ABOUT WEARING CAMPAIGN SHIRTS IN THE CHAMBERS.

MADAM. MADAM CITY CLERK. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY I BELIEVE.

IS THIS A POLLING PLACE? NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT.

SO THEN I DON'T THINK THOSE RULES ABOUT CAMPAIGNING HERE APPLY.

IT'S NOT. OKAY, WELL, WE HAVE OUR LEGAL OPINION, SO.

I'M SORRY. CAN YOU CONTINUE? OKAY. AND I'M. I'M RECOMMENDING THAT.

COUNCILWOMAN. START COMING. BE REELECTED AND COUNCILMAN SHAUN ATKINS.

AND ALSO THE PROMOTION OF COUNCILMAN JOSEPH BUTLER, THE BUTLER, AS OUR NEXT MAYOR.

ALSO, I'M I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL IF WE CAN REALLY CONSIDER OUR CITY'S ALREADY HURTING.

WE'RE HURTING IN THIS MORNING, AND WE CONSIDER A.

A RATE WEIGHT CUT OFF TO UTILITIES, PUT A MORATORIUM ON IT DURING THIS CRISIS OF THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.

PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THEIR SNAP BENEFITS. SENIORS ARE HURTING.

AND ALSO CONSIDER MORATORIUM ON RENT EVICTIONS.

I THINK THAT WOULD HELP OUR CITIZENS A LOT. BUT VOTE TO ELECT COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS, COUNCILMAN ATKINS AND PROMOTE COUNCILMAN BULLOCK AS OUR NEXT MAYOR.

UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS SHARON LOVETT.

CITY COUNCIL SHARON LOVETT, 2830, THE LOW DRIVE.

I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE ROBOCALLS. THE STREETS ARE TALKING.

IF WE DON'T RECEIVE ROBOCALLS, CITY MANAGER, THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN EAST POINT ARE ELDERLY.

THEY ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK OR ANY OTHER INTERNET.

THE PEOPLE WON'T KNOW. SO EACH CITY COUNCIL IS GIVEN $2,500 FOR COMMUNICATIONS IN THE BUDGET.

AND FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR MORE, WE ONLY RECEIVE ROBOCALLS FROM SHARON, SHROPSHIRE AND SOMETIMES THE MAYOR AT A HOLIDAY. BUT NONE OF THE OTHER CITY COUNCILS DO ANY ROBOCALLS, PERIOD.

SO WE DO NEED THE ROBOCALLS AND RECEIVING INFORMATION FROM CERTAIN CITY COUNCIL TO INFORM ONE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO DO IT ANYMORE IS NOT RIGHT, BECAUSE THE CITY WON'T KNOW, PERIOD.

IF WE HAVE IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON. SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? CITY MANAGER WHAT IS THE PROBLEM AND WHY DID THE CITY WHY DID YOU APPROVE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CAMPAIGN FLIERS? THE STREETS ARE TALKING. AND INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, PLEASE ADDRESS THE CHAIR.

WHAT ADDRESS? THE CHAIR. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE CHAIR DURING YOUR ADDRESS.

WHO, ME? YES, YOU HAVE TO. YOU CAN'T PUT YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS THE CITY MANAGER.

YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE CHAIR. OH, WE CAN'T SAY THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY.

OKAY, WELL, YOU JUST STOPPED MY TIME. NO. GO AHEAD.

OKAY. SO. OKAY, WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF I CAN'T ADDRESS THE CITY MANAGER, THEN I'M WONDERING WHY IT WOULD BE APPROVED, PERIOD IN THE CITY FOR THAT AND NOT FOR THE ROBOCALLS.

BECAUSE WE DO NEED THE ROBOCALLS. BUT THE THE UPPER MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO LISTEN TO ALL OF THE CITY

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BUT YOU SAID, I CAN'T SAY THAT. BUT MY QUESTION IS TO ALL OF YOU CONCERNING THE NEGATIVITY THAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO EVER BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE, COMMUNICATE, NAVIGATE, MAKE POLICY DECISIONS, APPROVE ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS AND OTHER LEGISLATIONS TO GOVERN THE HEALTH AND WELFARE AND THE SAFETY OF OUR CITY RESIDENTS.

IF YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE. YOU KNOW IF YOU STILL KEEP BEING NEGATIVE, MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

WE STILL NEED ROBO CALLS, AND ROBO CALLS SHOULD BE MANDATORY.

AND BY THE WAY, JUST BECAUSE A FEW FOLKS IN JEFFERSON PARK CALL OR DO DIFFERENT THINGS DOESN'T MEAN THEY RUN THE CITY.

UP NEXT WE HAVE PETER FRIEDRICH, AND MY APOLOGIES IF I SAID YOUR NAME MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME.

4498 WASHINGTON ROAD. AND MY NAME IS PETER FRIEDRICH.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THIS CITY NAMED THE SCHOOL AFTER HAMILTON HOLMES, WHO HELPED TO DESEGREGATE THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA AND FACED DOWN VIOLENT MOBS TO BREAK BARRIERS THAT LIFTED UP THE OPPRESSED. SENATE BILL 375, HOWEVER, FLIPS THAT LEGACY UPSIDE DOWN.

IT WEAPONIZES CIVIL RIGHTS LAW TO SILENCE DISSENT ABOUT A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT, AND EAST POINT'S GOVERNMENT WILL BE FORCED TO ENFORCE IT.

THE BILL MANDATES THAT EVERY GEORGIA AGENCY, INCLUDING THIS CITY, CONSIDER THE DEFINITION OF HINDUPHOBIA WHEN ENFORCING DISCRIMINATION LAWS. IT DEFINES HINDUPHOBIA AS ANTAGONISTIC, DESTRUCTIVE AND DEROGATORY ATTITUDES TOWARDS HINDUISM, BUT NEVER DEFINES HINDU OR HINDUISM. THAT VOID REFUSING TO DEFINE THE TERMS IS DELIBERATE.

HERE'S THE MECHANISM. SB 375 CHANGES WHAT COUNTS AS DISCRIMINATION UNDER GEORGIA LAW.

WHEN AGENCIES INVESTIGATE DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINTS, THEY MUST NOW CONSIDER WHETHER HINDU PHOBIA OCCURRED.

HERE'S THE IMPACT ON EASTPOINTE RESIDENT POSTS ABOUT HINDU NATIONALIST MOBS ATTACKING CHURCHES AND BEATING PASTORS IN INDIA.

COWORKER FILES HINDU PHOBIA COMPLAINT WITH HR COMPANY INVESTIGATES TO AVOID STATE AGENCY LIABILITY.

EMPLOYEE GETS FIRED FOR DOCUMENTING VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIANS.

INVESTIGATION ALONE DESTROYS CAREERS. PROCESS BECOMES PUNISHMENT.

YOUR CITY FACES THE SAME TRAP EASTPOINTE LIBRARY HOSTS SPEAKER ON RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION IN INDIA.

HINDU PHOBIA COMPLAINT GETS FILED. YOU FACE LEGAL EXPOSURE FOR A LIBRARY PROGRAM.

LEGAL FEES MOUNT CITY STAFF TIME IS CONSUMED DEFENDING A SPEAKER EVENT.

THAT VOID IS THE WEAPON. THE BILL CONFLATES POLITICAL IDEOLOGY WITH RELIGION, THEN FORCES EASTPOINTE TO ADJUDICATE THAT CONFLATION.

HINDU NATIONALIST GROUPS CLAIM THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA IS HINDUISM INSEPARABLE AND SACRED? SB 375 MAKES GEORGIA AGENCIES TREAT THAT CLAIM AS LAW.

WHY THIS MATTERS TO EAST POINT. INDIA'S INTELLIGENCE AGENCY ATTEMPTED TO ASSASSINATE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN ON US SOIL LAST YEAR.

FEDERAL PROSECUTORS CHARGED INDIVIDUALS CONNECTED TO SENIOR INDIAN OFFICIALS.

MULTIPLE AMERICANS REMAIN ON THREAT LISTS. SB 375 OFFERS THEM A CLEANER TOOL LITIGATION INSTEAD OF VIOLENCE.

HAMILTON HOLMES FACED THAT MOB AT UGA BECAUSE CIVIL RIGHTS LAW EXISTED TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE HIM, TO LIFT UP THOSE FIGHTING OPPRESSION. SB 375 PERVERTS THAT ENTIRELY, CONVERTING CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS INTO TOOLS FOR TRANSNATIONAL REPRESSION, MAKING EAST POINT'S GOVERNMENT MACHINERY AN EXTENSION OF FOREIGN CENSORSHIP.

YOU HAVE AUTHORITY HERE. PASS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING SB 375.

SEND IT TO YOUR STATE SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVE.

PUT EAST POINT ON RECORD BEFORE THIS BILL REACHES COMMITTEE.

WHEN LEGISLATORS DEBATE THIS, THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT EAST POINT REJECTS BECOMING AN ENFORCEMENT ARM FOR FOREIGN GOVERNMENT SILENCING.

HAMILTON HOMES USED LAW TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE.

DON'T LET SB 375 TURN THAT LAW BACKWARD. OPPOSE THIS BILL AND I HAVE FOR EVERY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.

AN INFORMATION PACKET ON THE ISSUE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UP NEXT WE HAVE MRS. ERNESTINE PITMAN, AND SHE HAD TIME GIVEN TO HER BY MR. WILLIE JACKSON.

SO SHE'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

AS A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR, I AM APPALLED BY WHAT A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, EDDIE LEE BREWSTER, CAME INTO THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND DID TONIGHT.

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THAT'S FREE PUBLICITY, BUT I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT HIS LACK OF DECORUM OR HIS BREAKING THE LAW.

I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT WERE PASSED DURING THE LAST FOUR MONTHS. I WAS MAYOR OF EAST POINT. MY NAME IS ON THESE THREE PIECES BECAUSE OF THOSE THREE PIECES OF LEGISLATION. THE CITY OF EAST POINT HAS COLLECTED OVER $55 MILLION IN ELECTRICAL RESERVES DUE TO THE PKA AND THE ECR CHARGES. THE COURTS RULED. JUDGE ELLERBY STATED THAT NO.

THE ORDINANCE NEVER PASSED THE COUNCIL. I HAD NO BUSINESS TO SIGN IT.

IF I DID, AND I ASKED THE COUNCIL YEARS, YEARS AGO.

LET'S GO TO COURT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. YOU IGNORED IT.

NOW WE'RE UP TO ANOTHER ONE THAT IS EVEN MORE SACRED.

AND THAT IS THE STORMWATER UTILITY. I TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY, NOT JUST BECAUSE MY NAME WAS FRAUDULENT ON THE ORDINANCE AS IT NOW STANDS, BUT BECAUSE WE TOLD THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY WHOSE HOMES WERE BUILT BETWEEN 1950 AND 1960, WHO HAD NO IDEA THAT STORMWATER PIPES WERE ON THEIR PROPERTY AND WERE NEVER DEDICATED TO THE CITY, THAT THEY WERE LIABLE FOR THOSE PIPES.

BURSTING. CAUSING PROBLEMS. NO RESIDENT SHOULD EVER FEEL THAT HIS HOME.

THE LARGEST INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE IN A CITY.

IT'S GOING TO COST YOU WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO PAY.

WE TOLD THE RESIDENTS WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING FOR THIS STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.

THIS IS YOUR INSURANCE THAT IF YOU EVER HAVE A STORMWATER PROBLEM ON YOUR PROPERTY, THIS CITY WILL FIX IT.

NAT 2019 I DISCOVERED AN ORDINANCE WHEN A RESIDENT CALLED ME ASKING ABOUT IT.

AND IN THAT ORDINANCE, THAT WAS WHAT WE VOTED ON.

THAT WAS NOT WHAT I SIGNED OFF ON. ON DECEMBER 19TH DECEMBER 19TH, 19, 2012.

WHY WOULD WE TELL RESIDENTS WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU A STORMWATER FEE ON EVERY TRACK OF LAND IN THE CITY THAT WAS NOT GRASSLAND, SO THAT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO FEAR OF LOSING YOUR HOME OR COMING OUT OF YOUR POCKET WITH MONEY THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE, AND THEN TURN AROUND AND TELL YOU WHEN YOU DO HAVE A STORMWATER PROBLEM, IT'S YOUR PROBLEM AND NOT THE CITY. ARE WE GOING ALL THE WAY WITH THIS ONE? NO NO NO NO NO. OVER $25 MILLION HAS BEEN COLLECTED.

CURRENTLY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 6 MILLION OVER THAT IN THE BUDGET.

FIVE YEARS AGO, I ASKED FOR ALL INVOICES OF STORMWATER FEE MONEY THAT HAD BEEN USED.

I DON'T COME BEGGING AND I DON'T COME TALKING OUT OF MY HEAD THAT I DON'T EVEN WHERE GOT A NEW EGO.

WEIRDO. BUT I DON'T DO THAT. WE HAD A DOCUMENTS HERE, AND WE HAVE THIS GENTLEMAN HERE WHOSE HOME? ONE OF THOSE BUILT IN THE 50S AND 60S STORMWATER PIPES IN THE YARD, WAS NEVER DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

NOW HE'S BEING TOLD HERE HE IS IN HIS 80S ON YOUR PROPERTY.

YOU PAY HELL TO THE HELL. NO NO NO NO NO, NO, WE'RE NOT PLAYING WITH DECENT PEOPLE.

SOMEBODY HAD BETTER COME UP WITH THE ORDINANCE WITH THE STRIKE CREWS THAT DO NOT EXIST, BECAUSE IN THE ORDINANCE YOU ARE PRESENTLY USING, IT SAYS AMEND. YOU DON'T AMEND SOMETHING UNLESS IT EXISTS.

THERE WAS NO STORMWATER UTILITY. WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY.

WE HAVE THE PEOPLE ON ON THE COUNCIL, AND I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS.

MY NAME IS ON IT. I DID NOT SIGN IT. AND TONIGHT WE WANT THE CITY TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT WE

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A STORMWATER FEE FOR ANY RESIDENT IN THIS CITY TO BE TOLD, NO, IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY.

IT'S YOUR PROBLEM. NO, NO, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX BILL.

YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ORDINANCE. ONLY A FOOL.

AND I'M NO FOOL. I MIGHT BE OLD AND GRAY, BUT I AM NOBODY'S FOOL WITH SIGNS.

SUCH ASININE ORDINANCE AS IT APPEARS. WE NEED TO HAVE A TALK IN THIS CITY.

AND STARTING TONIGHT. LET'S HOLD TRUE TO WHAT WE TOLD THE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. LASTLY, WE HAVE MISS TERESA NELSON.

GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. TERESA NELSON, 1732 NEELY AVENUE, EASTPOINTE.

I CONTINUE TO FIND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS VISA STATEMENTS ENLIGHTENING THE AT THE AT THE WARD COUNCIL MEMBERS ADVICE SHE IS SHE REQUESTED THAT WE LOOK AT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER THERE AND I INTEND TO DO THAT AND ALWAYS DID.

AND I THOUGHT I WOULD START WITH YOURS. SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE CHOSEN TRANSPARENCY AND POSTED THEIR EXPENSES ONLINE, A PRACTICE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD FOLLOW.

THE COUNCILMAN RUNNING FOR MAYOR IS NOT MUCH BETTER THAN THE ONE DISCUSSED IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS TO COUNCIL.

IN 30 MONTHS, HE SPENT OVER $50,000 IN TRAVEL AND MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES, WHICH IS AN AVERAGE OF NEARLY $1,700 A MONTH, AND DOES NOT INCLUDE THE EXPENSES FOR WHICH HE WAS BUDGETED.

HE SPENT OVER $10,000 ON MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES, INCLUDING MARKETING SERVICES.

AND IN CASE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT FEEDING YOUR FAMILY THESE DAYS, THE COUNCILMAN SPENT NEARLY 2500 AT AREA RESTAURANTS.

THE MOST SURPRISING EXPENDITURE WAS THE USE OF UBER FOR LOCAL TRANSPORTATION OF APPROXIMATELY $2,700.

MARTA. IT'S MARTA. AS A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, I ATTENDED CONFERENCES FOR MIG AND GMA.

HOWEVER, I DID NOT TRAVEL TO SOUTH KOREA, COLOMBIA, CALIFORNIA OR TO DC MULTIPLE TIMES TO THE COST FOR THAT TRAVEL WAS OVER $32,000 FOR 30 MONTHS.

THE TWO MEMBERS VISA CHARGES I HAVE REVIEWED THUS FAR REMIND ME OF MY NAVY FATHERS COMMENT.

THEY SPEND MONEY LIKE DRUNKEN SAILORS ON SHORE LEAVE.

IT'S TIME TO SPEND FUNDS ON DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR EMPLOYEES.

THOSE NEEDS ARE CRITICAL TO IMPROVING OUR CITY.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO HAPEVILLE AND COLLEGE PARK TO SEE WHAT A DOWNTOWN SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN OUR AREA.

TOMORROW IS ELECTION DAY. YOU CAN VOTE FOR CHANGE AND TO SAVE OUR CITY, AND I HOPE YOU WILL DO SO.

THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

[X. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]

THERE ARE FOUR POLLING LOCATIONS IN EASTPOINTE, BUT IT IS BEST TO GO TO M-V-P.

GOV TO SEE WHERE YOUR PRECINCT IS. FOR WARD A, IT'S COMING UP EAST POINT, FIRST MALIBU UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, THE BOWDEN CENTER, AND ALSO SAINT STEPHEN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH FOR WARD B, THE BOWDEN SENIOR CENTER IN THE JEFFERSON RECREATION CENTER FOR WARD C, SAINT STEPHEN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, AND FOR WARD D, SAINT STEPHEN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, AND THE WELCOME ALL RECREATION CENTER. ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE REMEMBER TO VOTE ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025 AND ALSO VISIT MVP.

GOV. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR PRO TEM.

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AND THERE WERE ALSO GUNSHOTS. AND APPARENTLY THIS CAME FROM A SHORT TERM RENTAL LOCATED JUST OFF OF SYLVAN ROAD.

AND MY QUESTION IS REALLY THIS THE CITY HAS AN ORDINANCE AROUND SHORT TERM RENTALS NEEDING TO REGISTER AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

RESIDENTS ARE OFTEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE DISTURBANCES FROM SOME SHORT TERM RENTALS WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOTIFIED AND THEY GO OUT.

ARE THEY ALSO NOTIFYING ENFORCEMENT THROUGH PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THOSE THINGS COULD BE CHECKED TO SEE IF THEY HAVE REGISTERED, AND IF SO, ARE WE ASSESSING FINES FOR THOSE THINGS? IF YOU COULD FIND THAT OUT AND REPORT TO US THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY IS ENFORCING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.

SINCE WE ARE ALLOWING THEM IN THE CITY. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? SO UP NEXT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[XI.2. Public Works Transportation Divison Project Update 2025]

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, I HAVE OUR ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WILL WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM.

DECIDED.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CORDELL HULL.

I'M HERE TO GIVE A UPDATE ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY.

SO I'LL START WITH OUR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY.

WE HAVE OUR LCI MULTIMODAL DOWNTOWN PROJECT, WHICH IS STILL CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

IT'S STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AT&T, WHO WAS COMPLETING THE WORK RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF CITY HALL.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY FINISHED UP THEIR WORK TODAY. SO YOU'LL SEE ALL THE TRAFFIC CONTROL, THE CONSTRUCTION ALONG EAST POINT STREET STARTING TO BE REMOVED.

THE CONTRACTORS ARE STILL WORKING ALONG MAIN STREET, BUT THEY ARE WRAPPING UP THEIR RELOCATIONS ALONG EAST POINT STREET. NEXT WE HAVE OUR PAVEMENT RESURFACING GROUPS. WE HAVE THREE CONTRACTS FOR MULTI YEAR RESURFACING A, B AND C, AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE CONTRACTS MORE IN DETAIL ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES.

ALSO, WE HAVE SYLVAN ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT'S UNDERWAY.

IT'S GOTTEN STARTED. ALL THE RELOCATIONS OF THE UTILITIES POWER LINES WATER LINES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

THE CONTRACTORS HAVE BEGAN INSTALLING EROSION CONTROL AND ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING DRIVEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS IN SUPPORT OF THAT PROJECT.

ALSO WE HAVE JANICE DRIVE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS YOU SEEM TO HAVE MESSAGE BOARDS OUT.

JANICE DRIVE IS CLOSED DURING CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE MAKING THIS UNDER APPROPRIATE PROGRESS.

AND THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL GO ON UNTIL 2026. AND ALSO, WE HAVE SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE.

THIS IS GENERAL SIDEWALK REPAIRS CITYWIDE AND VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, REPLACING SOME EXISTING DAMAGED SIDEWALKS.

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A VIDEO, BUT IT'S JUST A PICTURE OF THE HOT, IN-PLACE RECYCLING PROCESS THAT WAS GOING ON SOME OF THE VARIOUS STREETS IN WARD C AND D, YOU CAN SEE HERE THE TRUCKS HEATING UP, EXISTING PAVING.

IT'S TURNING AND REJUVENATING EXISTING ASPHALT.

IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROCESS THUS FAR THAT LIKE REUSING SOME OF OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAVES AROUND 30 TO 40% IN COMPARISON TO OUR TYPICAL RESURFACING PROJECT PROCESS. HERE'S A LITTLE UPDATE ON THE RESURFACING FOR ALL OF OUR CITYWIDE PROJECTS.

WASHINGTON ROAD PROJECT WAS NOT FUNDED, WHICH INCLUDED NORTH COMMERCE AND CENTER PARKWAY.

ALL OF THE PAVING IS COMPLETED. CONTRACTORS ARE NOW COMING BACK AND DO THE FINAL STRIPING BEFORE THEY CLOSE THAT PROJECT OUT.

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AND THE OTHER PROJECTS FOR GROUP A THAT ARE COMPLETED WITH PINEY WOOD DRIVE, OAK RIDGE LANE, PINE NEEDLE DRIVE, PINE NEEDLE COURT AND HEATHER DRIVE AND BEAN HILL ROAD FROM HEADLAND DRIVE TO WASHINGTON ROAD.

THAT CONTRACT IS CURRENTLY PUTTING TOGETHER A PROPOSAL OR A COST ESTIMATE TO CONTINUE WORKING ON STAUNTON ROAD, IDLEWOOD DRIVE, ALISON COURT AND FORT VALLEY DRIVE NEXT WITH THE OTHER CONTRACT PAVEMENT, GROUP B, THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON RESURFACING HEADLAND DRIVE FROM RIDGECREST. ROAD. RIDGECREST ROAD TO HEADLAND TERRACE AND ALSO FROM CAMBRIDGE DRIVE TO WARREN WAY.

SO THAT CONSTRUCTION IS CURRENTLY UNDER PROGRESS AND THAT CONTRACTOR IS ALSO DEVELOPING SCOPES AND COST ESTIMATES FOR STARTING IN THE RIVER PARK COMMUNITY. BLOUNT STREET, PALM DRIVE AND OTHER STREETS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS ROCKWOOD DRIVE.

I'M SORRY. THE HIDING PLACE. CONTRACT. CONTRACT C IS MOSTLY SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.

THAT'S THE PROCESS I SHOWED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

THEY'VE COMPLETED L CIRCLE, SCENIC TERRACE, SCENIC DRIVE POMONA COURT, SAINT HENRY STREET, WEST, RUGBY AVENUE, PRINCE GEORGE STREET AND QUEEN ELIZABETH, MOUNT VERNON TERRACE, RED WINE COURT, VICTORIA DRIVE, RED WINE ROAD, DRESDEN TRAIL, DUKE OF GLOUCESTER, SAINT JOHN'S DRIVE, DUKE OF WINDSOR, AS WELL AS SUMMERLIN TRAIL, SUMMERLIN, SUMMERLAND SLIPWAY AND SAVANNAH WALK SUBDIVISION.

WE HAVE THIS LISTED AS COMPLETE, BUT THEY'LL BE COMING THROUGH DOING SOME TOUCH UP AND PUNCH LIST ITEMS TO WRAP UP THAT PROJECT IN THOSE AREAS.

NEXT, THEY'LL BE MOVING ON TO HERITAGE PARK SUBDIVISION, WHICH THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING IN, AS WELL AS THE LAKESIDE PRESERVE SUBDIVISION TO WRAP UP THAT PROJECT.

SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE NORTH DESERT DRIVE RESURFACING SIDEWALKS.

THAT PROJECT IS CURRENTLY RECEIVED BIDS. WE'RE REVIEWING THOSE WITH PROCUREMENT TO BRING FORTH COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND THE FOLLOWING MONTHS, AS WELL AS CIVIL ROAD NORTH SIDEWALK PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE FROM WINBURN DRIVE UP TO THE CITY LIMITS OF ATLANTA, CURRENTLY DRIVE SIDEWALK PROJECT, WHICH IS A SIDEWALK GAP IN THE SCHOOL ZONE.

HAMILTON HOLMES FILLING IN THE GAP FROM JACKSON AVENUE TO COLLINS DRIVE.

WE ALSO RECEIVED THOSE BIDS, AND WE'RE REVIEWING THOSE, AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER DESIGN PROJECTS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON WITH TAYLOR AVENUE IN PARTICULAR WITH DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND RESURFACING, ALONG WITH CHURCH STREET, EAST POINT STREET AND HARRISON ROAD, WHICH WERE DOING SOME PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND TRAFFIC CALMING AND RESURFACING ON THOSE STREETS.

SO WE HAD THOSE DESIGNS COMPLETED, AND WE ARE WORKING ON DEVELOPING COST ESTIMATES AND FUNDING THOSE PROJECTS.

AND LASTLY, WE HAVE DESIGN COMPLETED FOR STAUNTON ROAD, MIDBLOCK PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT THE HILLCREST COMMUNITY.

DESIGN IS COMPLETE AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THIS PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SOME DESIGN PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. LAST MONTH, COUNCIL AWARDED THE KIMLEY-HORN FOR THE MULTIMODAL PATH PROJECT FROM VIRGINIA AVENUE.

I'M FROM TRI-CITIES TO VIRGINIA AVENUE. WE'RE CURRENTLY GETTING THAT PROJECT, THAT CONTRACT EXECUTED, AND THE CONTRACT IS ARE OR THE DESIGNERS ARE WORKING ON STARTING THE SURVEY AND KICKING OFF THAT DESIGN PROJECT.

WE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON SOME SIDEWALKS ON CONNOLLY DRIVE FROM SIMS STREET TO MULBERRY DOBSON DRIVE, COMPLETING THE GAP FROM HOGAN ROAD TO BEN BEING HILL ROAD.

DOBBS WAY, WHICH IS A SHORT SECTION BETWEEN BEING HILL ROAD AND WASHINGTON ROAD.

AND AS WELL AS WASHINGTON ROAD SIDEWALKS. COMPLETING THE CONNECTION FROM CARMEL DRIVE UP TO THE CITY LIMITS.

SOUTH FULTON WE ALSO HAVE SOME SMALL SEGMENTS OF SIDEWALK.

HELEN DRIVE BETWEEN SAM STREET AND NORMAN DRIVE AND DALY AVENUE BETWEEN SEVENTH STREET AND WARREN WAY.

SOME OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. VIRGINIA AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS IN COLLABORATION WITH EAST POINT POWER.

WE'RE WORKING ON SOME SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS AND MARKETING AND SIGNAGE IMPROVEMENTS ON VIRGINIA AVENUE, IN PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS OF BOBBY BROWN PARKWAY AND THE INTERSECTION OF VIRGINIA AVENUE AND HARRISON ROAD.

ALSO, WE HAVE OUR SAFE ROUTES TO TRANSIT PROGRAM, WHICH WAS APPROVED LAST MONTH.

MARTA IS GOING TO BE IMPROVING APPROXIMATELY 13 STOPS CITYWIDE IMPROVING THE PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS AND INCREASED, INCREASING THE SAFETY OF CROSSING AT THESE LOCATIONS.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE SOUTH FULTON COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WITH ARC AND THE NEIGHBORING CITIES IN SOUTH FULTON AREA.

WE COME BEFORE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, PROBABLY IN DECEMBER WITH THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT TO APPROVE FOR THE SOUTH FULTON CTP TO GET THAT KICKED OFF.

WE ALSO, FULTON COUNTY HAS REACHED OUT TO ALL THE CITIES IN PREPARATION FOR POTENTIAL TSPLOST THREE VOTE FOR 2026.

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WE'RE ALSO STILL DEVELOPING A SCOPE FOR SIDEWALK EVALUATION CITYWIDE, SO THAT WE CAN PLAN OUT OUR NEW SIDEWALKS AS WELL AS PUT TOGETHER PLANS FOR REPAIRING EXISTING SIDEWALKS. AND LASTLY, WE HAVE OUR FLINT RIVER GATEWAY TRAILS.

GRANT THIS IS A PORTION OF THE LARGER GATEWAY TRAILS PROJECT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FEDERALLY FUNDED, WHICH WAS CANCELED BY THE ARC, BUT THE CITY HAD RECEIVED ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL FUNDING PRIOR TO THAT GRANT.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO REESTABLISH THE FUNDING FOR THAT FOR THE CITY.

SO WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS NOW ON HOW THAT PROCESS WILL WORK WITH THE CITY BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR OWN DESIGN.

AND THAT'S ALL. SO I'LL LEAVE THE FLOOR OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE FOR THE ROAD PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THIS ONE HERE.

YEAH. THIS ONE? YES. SO I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW IT MATCHES UP.

WITH WHAT YOU GUYS, WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE? ARE WE STILL.

BECAUSE. LET'S SEE. SO YOU HAVE A DATE WHERE YOU STARTED.

SO I THINK THE LAST ONE WAS IDLEWOOD DRIVE IN FORT VALLEY TO THAT DEAD END.

AND THAT'S ON FROM OCTOBER 27TH. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

ARE WE STILL MAKING PROGRESS? WITH REGARDS TO WE'RE STILL IN LINE FOR REPAVING THOSE OTHER STREETS THAT ARE THAT ARE THAT AFTER THAT.

YES. SO WE WE GIVE DATES SOMETIMES THEY APPROXIMATE DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.

I MEAN, I KNOW GIVE OR TAKE A WEEK OR SO, BUT I MEAN, FOR THE MOST PART WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE. YES. SO ALL OF THESE THAT ARE ON HERE WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THESE STREETS HERE REPAVED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, OR AT LEAST STARTED? OKAY. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LARGER ONES MAY TAKE A LITTLE TIME, BUT AS WE'RE GETTING INTO THE FALL AND WINTER AND IT MAY SLOW DOWN, WE HAVE TO TAKE WEATHER INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. YES. OKAY.

SO WE ARE ON TRACK WITH WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE. I JUST WANT TO JUST SO WHEN RESIDENTS GO AND THEY CHECK IT AND I KNOW WHAT YOU GOT WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED HERE THIS EVENING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ALONG THOSE SAME LINES.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU I YIELD. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND I'M SO GLAD TO SEE THAT ALL OF THIS MOVEMENT IS HAPPENING CITYWIDE FOR OUR STREETS.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW WAS THIS NUMBER ONE, THE COMMUNICATION TO RESIDENTS.

A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN. I AM VERY THANKFUL. I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE MAILBOX DROPS SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PAVING IN A FEW DAYS, BUT IS THAT BEING DONE IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE CITY? HOW ARE WE LETTING RESIDENTS KNOW? AND THEN, DUE TO THE WEATHER, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO START A PARTICULAR DAY.

AND THEN RESIDENTS WANTED TO KNOW, OKAY, WELL, WHEN IS IT GOING TO START? IS THERE SOME WAY THAT RESIDENTS CAN BE INFORMED OF WHEN PAVING WILL OCCUR? BESIDES THE ORANGE SIGNS THAT SAY, HEY, DON'T PARK ON THE STREET THE SPRINKLERS, PLEASE TURN THOSE OFF.

LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO REALLY TAP INTO COMMUNICATING TO RESIDENTS THAT YOU MAY NEED TO TAKE A DIFFERENT ROUTE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO STREET PAVE, BECAUSE IN MY COMMUNITY, THE STREET WAS PAVED.

BUT I ALSO NOTICED PEOPLE HAVE ALSO STARTED DRIVING ON IT ALREADY.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS SETTLED JUST YET, BUT THAT IS ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.

AND THEN ALSO THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE HAVE A TON OF SIGNS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

LITTER SIZE SPEEDING SIGNS. ALSO STOP SIGNS. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IS TO, AS WE'RE REPAVING THE STREETS, ALSO PUTTING OUT DECENT SIGNAGE BECAUSE SOME SIGNAGE SAYS, HEY, DON'T LITTER HERE, BUT THE SIGN IS VERY OLD AND OUTDATED THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THAT IT REALLY SAYS PLEASE DON'T LITTER.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT LETTERS TO THE RESIDENTS IN OUR BEST EFFORT TO NOTIFY THEM. WE'VE ALSO BEEN WHEN WE CAN PUT OUT MESSAGE BOARDS ENTRANCES OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND RECENTLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S AN HOA, WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH HOA, IF POSSIBLE, LIKE THE NOTIFIED THE SUBDIVISIONS OR THAT WILL BE PAVED.

AND SO A DIFFICULT TASK, LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN THINGS MAYBE ARE RAIN ONE DAY, GET OFF SCHEDULE, BUT TRYING TO BEST TO KEEP EVERYONE UP TO DATE.

SO ANY IDEAS THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO BETTER IMPROVE THAT THAT WE ARE WELCOMING? YOUR SECOND QUESTION ABOUT THE SIGNS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR TEAM DIRECTOR ON DOING, LIKE, AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF OUR SIGNS.

TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVE SIGNS FROM TEN YEARS AGO THAT MAY NOT MATCH UP WITH CURRENT SIGNAGE.

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THANK YOU. ALL COUNCILMAN. ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, MR. HALL, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT MULTIMODAL.

I KNOW EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE THE LAGGING PROGRESS OF MULTIMODAL.

AND I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE PART ON EASTPOINTE STREET IN FRONT OF CITY HALL IS NOW COMPLETE.

SO WE SHOULD START TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT DURING THAT PRESENTATION BEFORE MR. REEVES HAS STATED THAT THE CONSULTANT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND RECALIBRATE THE SCHEDULE TO SEE IF WE CAN CATCH UP, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT WAS PRESENTED THAT THESE PROJECTS REGARDING MULTIMODAL WILL BE COMPLETE FEBRUARY OF 2026.

IS THAT STILL CORRECT? THAT'S THE DATE SET FOR NOW, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY RECALIBRATION AT THAT SCHEDULE PRESENTED TO US YET.

SO THE CONSULTANT HAS NOT REDONE A SCHEDULE. SO WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO MEET THAT DEADLINE.

NOT YET. OKAY. TO COUNCILMEMBER CUMMINGS POINT THIS UPDATE IS ALL OF THIS ON THE WEBSITE, AND IT'S INTUITIVE, EASY FOR THE CITIZENS TO GO SEE BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT WHEN THE STREETS ARE GOING TO BE REPAVED.

IF THEIR STREET IS ON THE LIST, SO ARE THEY ABLE TO GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND EASILY FIND THIS INFORMATION? YES. IF YOU GO TO EAST POINT, GA GOV TRANSPORTATION OR YOU CAN NAVIGATE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS WEBPAGE, WE HAVE OUR UPDATES AS WELL AS INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS ON OUR WEBSITE THAT WE UPDATE WEEKLY.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARTLEBAUGH COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN RODGERS ALLUDED TO IT ON DUKE OF GLOUCESTER.

I THINK THAT WAS A HOT IN PLACE PROCESS THERE.

AND I THINK THAT BEFORE IT FULLY CURED, IT SEEMS THAT THERE ARE SOME CARS THAT HAD DRIVEN ON IT, AND SO IT'S CREATING SOME RIDGES THAT MAY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU. YES, WE HAVE SOME OTHER AREAS TOO.

WE'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH THE CONTRACTOR. THE TEMPERATURES KIND OF LOWERED MORE THAN THEY EXPECTED, AND THEY WERE LETTING MAYBE OPEN THE TRAFFIC UP A LITTLE TOO SOON.

SO THEY'LL WHERE THEY HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO TO ADDRESS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THOSE ON OUR PUNCH LIST ITEM WHEN WE'RE DRIVING ALL THE STREETS. SO WE'LL APPRECIATE THE AWARENESS FOR THAT. OKAY.

AND THE FINAL THING THAT I HAVE IS ON PINE NEEDLE PINE NEEDLE DRIVE.

I WAS SPEAKING WITH MISS LOWE THE OTHER DAY. THEY ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THEIR RESURFACING ON PINE NEEDLE DRIVE.

BUT FOR THE PORTION AS A NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY WHOSE APRON DID NOT GET COMPLETED AND THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, THEIRS DID. AND SO THEY WERE JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT.

BUT I CAN SEND YOU DETAILED INFORMATION ON THAT.

I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AS WELL, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO SEND ME THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE, I'LL TAKE IT AS WELL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE.

THANK YOU. AND LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. AND HETLAND DRIVE IS BEING PAID, AND THAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORK FOR SOME TIME. AND BECAUSE OF THE PIPES.

THE WATER PIPES THAT WOULD ALWAYS BURST, IT KIND OF DELAYED THE PROCESS.

AND ONCE THOSE GOT COMPLETED, THEN NOW YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PAVE HETLAND DRIVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT HAS BEEN ON THE THE LIST FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

JUST LIKE THE OTHER END OF THE LAW WHICH IS NOW BEING PAVED.

AND YOU ALL SAID ONCE YOU COMPLETE BEEN HEALED AND PUT THE SIDEWALKS DOWN, THEN YOU WOULD FINISH PAVING THE OTHER END OF THE LOW, WHICH IS GOOD. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND LET'S CONTINUE TO KEEP UP THE PROGRESS OF DOING THE CITY.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. AND WE TALK ABOUT THE SIDE STREETS THAT NEED TO BE PAVED.

ONE. RIDGECREST. IS THAT ON THE LIST? RIDGECREST.

YES, MA'AM. IT'S ON THE FULL LIST OF STREETS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE'RE NOT DOING IT AT THIS TIME, BUT MAYBE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

BUT IT'S ON THE LIST. SO IT'S ON THE LIST TO BE DONE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND WHAT ABOUT CONLEY DRIVE? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SIDEWALKS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT LEADS TO A SCHOOL.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT WITH THE CHILD ON CONLEY DRIVE.

SO SIDEWALKS IN THE WORKS FOR CONLEY DRIVE. WE'VE TALKED I KNOW THAT CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES.

YES. SO THE GAP FROM SIMS UP TO THURLOW, WHICH CURRENTLY GOING TO START WORKING ON DESIGNING THE SIDEWALKS.

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RIGHT THERE AT SHELTON AND MULBERRY. YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO OVER ACROSS CURRENTLY DRIVING THE LOAD AND DO THAT SIDE THAT LEADS UP TO HAMILTON HOME SCHOOL.

YES, IT'S CURRENTLY SIDEWALKS, BUT IT'S AN AREA WHERE IT'S MISSING.

YEAH. SO WE WANT TO FILL IN THAT GAP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER.

YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

SO GOING BACK TO, LIKE, THE THE FIRST SLIDE AT THE VERY TOP, I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED HOT AND.

OH, I'M SORRY, WHERE WE WERE. WHERE? THERE YOU GO.

SO IT SAYS ROADS RECEIVING, PATCHING AND HOT IN PLACE, ASPHALT RECYCLING, ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

SO WHICH ROADS ON THIS LIST RECEIVED THAT VERSUS AN ACTUAL RIPPING UP OF THE OLD ROAD AND THEN PUTTING DOWN A NEW ROAD. SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE COLUMN SAYS PAVEMENT GROUP, THE GROUP C IS THE HIDING PLACE GROUP THE STREETS THAT RECEIVE THAT. SO THIS SLIDE ARE GOING TO FOLLOWING ALL OF THESE STREETS FOR GROUP C WERE THE ONES IN THAT PROJECT.

OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN UPCOMING ARE THE THE STREETS UPCOMING THAT ARE ABOUT TO BE REPAVED.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE HOT IN PLACE OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE LIKE STANDARD REPAVING? YEAH, THERE'LL BE MORE OF YOUR STANDARD MILLING OF STREET PAVING.

THAT'LL BE THESE ARE THE LAST STREETS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT CURRENT CONTRACT. SO IT'LL BE A STANDARD RESURFACING PROCESS. OKAY. AND SO I HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS.

I SAW IN ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT EGAN PARK IS SUPPOSED TO BE RESURFACED WITH LMI FUNDS, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT POP UP ON THE LIST YET.

SO WE'RE STILL WAITING TO RECEIVE LMG FUNDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR THAT GROUP PROJECT.

SO ONCE RECEIVED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THAT GROUP OF PROJECTS.

OKAY. AND AND WHEN WHEN IS IT THAT WE WOULD GET THAT FUNDING? I'M NOT SURE. THERE WAS SOME ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN PLACE OR CARE OF BETWEEN US AND THE STATE FOR THE FUNDING TO BE RECEIVED, BUT IT'S ALREADY ACCEPTED OR THEY HAD TO PRESENT US THE FUNDING.

OKAY. AND THEN REGARDING IDLEWOOD I SEE THAT THE NEW START DATE IS NOVEMBER 10TH.

THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DELAYED A COUPLE TIMES.

AND THIS COMMUNITY REALLY, REALLY WANTS THEIR STREET REPAVED.

I MEAN, IT'S THE STREETS CRUMBLING. LIKE, YOU CAN PICK UP PART OF THE PAVEMENT WITH YOUR HANDS.

SO, SO ARE WE CERTAIN, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, NOVEMBER 10TH AND THEN HAVE IT BE MOVED.

SO WE'LL NEED TO UPDATE THIS. OF COURSE. THE SAME COMPANY THAT'S CURRENTLY PAVING THE LOW DRIVE IS GOING TO BE MOVING OVER TO PAVE THOSE STREETS.

SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ANOTHER AREA OF THE CITY. THEN THEY'LL MOVE OVER TO THE STAUNTON AND IDLEWOOD AREA. SO IT GETS A LITTLE BEHIND WHAT WE PREDICTED FOR THEM.

BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ACTIVE AT EACH POINT.

MOVING OVER TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. GOTCHA.

AND THEN FOR STAUNTON ROAD, I THINK YOU GET LABELED AS WARD A, BUT I THINK IT'S B B, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. IT'S THAT IT'S THE PORTION IN B THAT'S GETTING REPAVED AND NOT THE PORTION A I'LL MAKE SURE I GO THROUGH IT.

CORRECT. YES. IT'S THE PORTION FROM WHERE IT SPLITS AT FROM SIMS GOING NORTH.

YES. YES. OKAY. AND SENATOR PARK IS ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS THEIR STREETS REPAVED.

I'VE HAD AN ASK OF WHEN TAYLOR AVENUE WOULD BE REPAVED.

DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES REGARDING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? HOPEFULLY THIS UPCOMING CALENDAR YEAR. LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE DESIGN COMPLETED.

THERE WERE SOME, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT REALLY LOW HAD BAD DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S PART OF OUR DESIRE TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PAVE THE STREETS.

SO WE GOT THE DESIGN COMPLETED. WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN FIT THIS INTO CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE'RE ALL WORKING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP DRAINAGE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM IN JEFFERSON PARK WITH EAST FOREST AND BAYARD.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THE PAVING ISSUES STEM FROM THE STORMWATER.

JUST KIND OF I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW IT WORKS, BUT ARE WE WORKING, TRYING TO GET THE FLOW CORRECT THERE? YES. AND THAT IS A BIG CHALLENGE. LIKE I SAID, SOME OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WE'RE DOING THESE PAVING PROJECTS, TAKING A STEP BACK AND LOOKING AT WHAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE FOR DRAINAGE.

SO JUST LIKE WEST TAYLOR SOME OF THESE OTHER STREETS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE.

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I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE THESE SEGMENTS, THESE SAME SEGMENTS FOR A WHILE.

THE ONE DOWN THAT GOES THAT GOES DOWN NORMAN BERRY TO VIRGINIA AVENUE, AND THEN ALSO THE ONE THAT THAT WAS FUNDED BY THE ARC.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE NEXT PATH PROJECT OR SEGMENT WILL BE? I DO NOT CURRENTLY. AND I THINK YOU BROUGHT IT UP IN A PREVIOUS MEETING.

SO I DO WANT TO WORK WITH OUR STAFF AND CITY MANAGEMENT TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAYBE ACCELERATE SOME OF OUR PATH DEVELOPMENT.

SO MAYBE I HAVE A BETTER ANSWER FOR YOU AFTER WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

BUT I AGREE WE DO NEED TO WORK ON MULTIPLE PATH SECTIONS AT ONE TIME.

YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY, SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS, BUT I KNOW THAT ADA COMPLIANCE IS REALLY ON TOP OF A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO WALK OFTEN IN OUR, IN OUR CITY.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF A PLAN OR UPDATE ON PUTTING IN THOSE CURB CUTS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO WALK SAFELY IN OUR CITY? THAT'S THAT'S PART OF OUR EFFORT WITH OUR SIDEWALK ASSESSMENT, LIKE PUTTING TOGETHER OUR ACTUAL PLAN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME FIGURES AND NUMBERS ONTO HOW WE CAN PROCEED WITH IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

A LOT OF SIDEWALKS HERE WERE BUILT BEFORE ADA.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT COMPLIANT BY, YOU KNOW, DEFECT, DEFAULT, NOT OF ANY WRONGDOING.

SO WE'RE ALL WORKING TO GO BACK AND RETROACTIVELY FIX SOME OF THESE.

AND HOPEFULLY WHEN WE GET THIS PLAN DEVELOPED, WE CAN HAVE OUR STRATEGY BEHIND GOING TO THE CITY AND TAKING OUT SOME OF THE OLD RAMPS AND IMPROVE THEM. OKAY. IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN ON ON TACKLING THE ALL THOSE CURB CUTS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT AND AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE REALLY DEPENDING ON, ON THOSE CURB CUTS TO EXIST. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS.

I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMEMBER SHORT SHOT. DID YOU GO? OKAY. I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE THIS INFORMATION CAN GO INSIDE THE UTILITY BILL? YES. I CAN SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN PUT IN OUR WORK WITH OUR CUSTOMER CARE TO SEE.

I MEAN, THAT'S A QUICK, SUREFIRE WAY TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS UPCOMING.

BECAUSE IF I'M 80, I'M NOT ON THE INTERNET. YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M NOT, BUT I WILL LOOK AT MY UTILITY BILL TO SEE WHEN IT IS DUE.

SO MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT JUST SOMETHING THAT STILL GETS TO RESIDENTS THAT THEY CAN OPEN AND LOOK AT AND SEE WHEN THEIR STREETS ARE GOING TO BE PAID. I MEAN, MAYBE IT CAN COME IN AS ANOTHER ATTACHMENT.

I KNOW THERE ARE SMALL MESSAGES ON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BILL, BUT SOME KIND OF WAY WE NEED TO LET RESIDENTS KNOW.

THAT'S ALL I MEANT TO SAY. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN.

THANK YOU. AND THAT THAT'S TRUE. AND THAT MADE ME THINK A LOT OF SENIORS WHO MAILBOX ARE NOT ON THE STREET.

IT'S ON THE DOOR. SO YEAH, PUTTING IT IN THE IN THE UTILITY BILL MIGHT HELP BECAUSE THEY WOULD SEE THAT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON THE MAILBOX ON THE STREET, THEN YOU COME ACROSS ONE THAT'S NOT THERE.

OR DO YOU DO THEY WALK UP AND PUT IT ON THE DOOR? IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A A HOUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A MAILBOX, THEY WILL GO UP AND PUT IT ON THE DOOR.

OKAY. YEAH OKAY. BUT THE UTILITY BILL IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO.

LIKE YOU SAID, SEEING HOW MUCH WE CAN FIT UP THERE MAY BE CHALLENGING, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO WHAT WE CAN DO. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD IF IT COULD SOMEHOW GO IN THE UTILITY BILL.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE A LOT OF SENIORS ARE NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT ON THE INTERNET, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE, MAYBE NOT WEBSITE EITHER.

BUT MY NEXT QUESTION IS THIS WHEN YOU SAID STANTON ROAD, ARE YOU SPEAKING OF BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A PORTION OF STANTON OF STAN ROAD IN WARD EIGHT, SO YOU'RE TALKING THE WARD B PART WHEN YOU GET TO 166 RIGHT THERE FROM WHERE IT COMMONLY WHERE IT CHANGES THINGS TO FROM SIMMS TO STANDISH.

SO FROM CONNOLLY GOING NORTH UP PAST THE ROUNDABOUT ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY LIMITS OF ATLANTA, WHICH SO YEAH. SO THAT'S SO FROM CONNELLY TO THE EXIT RAMP OF 160.

SO FROM CONNELLY TO STANTON ROAD CONNECTOR, THAT'S A OKAY, THAT'S A CROSSING OVER.

GOING UP UNDER THE BRIDGE IS B B. SO IT'S BOTH.

YEAH OKAY. MAKE SURE WE MAKE THAT CORRECTION.

YEAH. SO STANTON WROTE TO FROM CONISTON ROAD TO STANTON.

CONNECTOR IS A BECAUSE HILLCREST IS IN A YES.

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OH, NO. WHAT ABOUT COLONIAL HILL? THERE'S. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE STREET NAME, BUT THERE WAS A LADY THAT HAS BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT HER STREET BEING PAVED.

WE MIGHT CAN GET THE NAME FROM THE CITY CLERK OR FROM THE WARD B REPRESENTATIVES, IF THEY REMEMBER THE STREET NAME WHERE THE LADY COMES AND ASKS FOR HER STREET TO BE PAVED.

YES, I THINK I RECEIVED A REQUEST EITHER ON SEECLICKFIX OR EMAIL TO MAYBE FROM THE SAME RESIDENT.

OKAY. BUT WE ARE WORKING ON SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN COLONIAL HILL.

WE'VE GOTTEN SOME TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS AS WELL AS SOME RESURFACING REQUESTS, REQUEST. SO HOPEFULLY I HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY, JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THOUGH, THERE WAS A COMMENT ONLINE THAT WE PAVED THE ENTRANCES OF COLONIAL HILLS THAT WAS JUST PART OF THE PAVING MAIN STREET THAT GETS PAVED THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF ALL SIDE STREETS.

SO THAT WASN'T THE CITY THAT PAVED. YES. OKAY.

AND I'LL FIND OUT THE STREET NAME TO MAKE SURE TO SEE IF IT'S ON THE LIST AND TO JUST TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER, YOU'RE BACK THERE? YES. SO REALLY, ALL OF COLONIAL HILLS NEEDS TO BE REPAVED.

THE EXPLICIT REQUEST HAS BEEN NOONAN STREET. BUT ALL THE ROADS IN COLONIAL HILLS NEED TO BE REPAVED.

THEY'RE REALLY BAD. YES. SO WHEN WE STARTED DOING SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS IN COLONIAL HILLS ON SAINT MICHAELS, I THINK MAYBE A YEAR AGO, AND KIND OF COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND THERE'S REALLY AN AREA TO SPOT REPAIR.

SO TO YOUR POINT, IT'S IN A CONDITION WHERE WE GOT TO COMPLETELY COME IN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REDO EVERYTHING.

SO WE'RE AWARE AND LIKE I SAID, WORKING ON THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.

YEAH. AND I THINK DOLPHIN IS SUPPOSED TO GET THEIR WATER LINE REPLACED.

AND SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO WAIT. BUT YEAH. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY COLONIAL HILLS WILL GET ATTENDED SOON.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT THIS IS MY AGENDA ITEM, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION FROM THE ATLANTA COMMUNITY FOOD BANK ON LOCAL

[XI.3. Atlanta Community Food Bank on Local Food Resources and Community Outreach ]

MANY EASTPOINTE FAMILIES DEPEND ON THESE PROGRAMS TO MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS, AND WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO CONNECT THEM WITH LOCAL RESOURCES.

SO TONIGHT, WE'RE JOINED BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ATLANTA COMMUNITY FOOD BANK, ONE OF OUR REGION'S MOST TRUSTED PARTNERS IN THE FIGHT AGAINST FOOD INSECURITY. THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN PROVIDING GROCERIES, MOBILE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS AND NUTRITIONAL SUPPORT THROUGHOUT METRO ATLANTA.

I INVITED HER HERE TO THIS EVENING TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL AND OUR RESIDENTS THE FOOD RESOURCES CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO EASTPOINTE HOUSEHOLDS, AND TO EXPLORE WAYS THE CITY MIGHT PARTNER WITH THEM TO EXPAND ASSISTANCE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

ADDITIONALLY, AS WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE REMAINING BALANCE OF OUR RESCUE FUNDS PROVIDED UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, I BELIEVE THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE A PORTION OF THOSE DOLLARS TO STRENGTHEN LOCAL FOOD ACCESS AND SUPPORT EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS DIRECTLY BENEFITING OUR RESIDENTS DURING THIS CRITICAL TIME. MY HOPE IS THAT THIS PRESENTATION WILL HELP US IDENTIFY IMMEDIATE ACTIONS AND LONG TERM PARTNERSHIPS TO ENSURE NO FAMILY.

EASTPOINTE EASTPOINTE HAS TO GO HUNGRY. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME MISS MEGAN MIDDLETON, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FROM THE ATLANTA COMMUNITY FOOD BANK, TO THE PODIUM TO SHARE THEIR PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

MY NAME IS MEGAN MIDDLETON. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR THE ATLANTA COMMUNITY FOOD BANK, WHICH IS LOCATED IN YOUR BEAUTIFUL CITY. I AM HERE TO GIVE COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL'S REQUEST, AND I APPRECIATE THE INVITATION. WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING.

JUST IN GENERAL, BUT ALSO, OF COURSE, SINCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, AND ALSO THE INTERRUPTION AND FUNDING OF SNAP BENEFITS BEGINNING THIS PAST SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST.

SO IN GENERAL, AT THE ATLANTIC COMMUNITY FOOD BANK, WHERE WE SERVICE 29 COUNTIES IN THE METRO AND NORTH GEORGIA AREAS OF GEORGIA

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SO THE NEEDS HAVE GONE UP. THAT IS BASED ON VARIOUS VARIOUS REASONS JOB LOSS, INFLATION INTERRUPTIONS WITH WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM FEDERAL FOOD SOURCING.

THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR REASONS THAT THAT OUR DISTRIBUTION NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP BECAUSE OF THE NEED IN THE LAST WELL, I CAN SAY SINCE JULY, HOWEVER, EASTPOINTE, WITH YOUR MOBILE PANTRIES.

YOU ALL HAVE DISTRIBUTED 131,722 POUNDS OF FOOD.

THAT'S JUST SINCE JULY. AND THAT EQUALS OUT TO 109, EXCUSE ME, 109,768 MEALS.

SO THAT'S REALLY GREAT, GREAT NUMBERS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH YOU ALL.

SINCE OCTOBER, WE HAVE SEEN A 15% INCREASE IN OUR NUMBERS COMPARED TO WHAT WE SAW IN SEPTEMBER.

SO THAT'S JUST IN ONE MONTH, UP 15% IN OUR DISTRIBUTION.

SO AS WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, AS WE'VE SEEN THIS THIS FEDERAL SHUTDOWN, FURLOUGHED EMPLOYEES, EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK BUT NOT BEING PAID.

WE HAVE CREATED A CRISIS RESPONSE PLAN. SO I WANT TO SHARE THAT ALSO WITH YOU.

SO YOU MAY HAVE READ IN THE PAPER JUST AT THE END OF LAST WEEK.

IF NOT, I UNDERSTAND. IT'S A VERY BUSY TIME, BUT OUR BOARD HAS APPROVED US TO USE $5 MILLION OUT OF OUR RESERVES TO QUICKLY SOURCE AND DISTRIBUTE ADDITIONAL FOOD, AND THAT WILL BE 6 MILLION POUNDS OF FOOD OVER THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 300,000 POUNDS OF FOOD PER DAY OVER WHAT WE WERE ALREADY ORDERING AND DISTRIBUTING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE ARE ORGANIZING MASS DISTRIBUTIONS TO FEDERAL WORKERS AND OTHER POPULATIONS IN CRISIS.

I WILL GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT AT THE END OF MY OF THIS RESPONSE PLAN UPDATE, AND WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE. UNDERSTANDABLE.

IF YOU'RE NOT. WE WORK. THE ATLANTA COMMUNITY FOOD BANK IS ONE OF EIGHT FOOD BANKS IN THE STATE, AND WE WORK WITH ABOUT 700 PARTNER AGENCIES IN THOSE 29 COUNTY AREAS IN GEORGIA.

SO WE HAVE GREAT, GREAT PARTNERS. AND, AND WE ARE AT THIS POINT PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THEM THAT COULD BE SUPPORT IN BUILDING OUT THEIR MOBILES. IT COULD BE GETTING MORE FOOD TO THEM.

MOST DEFINITELY. IT COULD BE HELPING THEM OBTAIN REFRIGERATED TRUCKS OR OTHER THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO GET THAT FOOD OUT TO THE PEOPLES WHO EXCUSE ME, TO THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED IT. WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING PANTRY HOURS AND MOBILE DISTRIBUTION.

SO WE'RE HELPING THOSE PARTNER AGENCIES ONCE AGAIN WITH MORE FOOD AND PRODUCT, BUT ALSO TO HELP THEM EXPAND THEIR HOURS BECAUSE THEY MANY TIMES MAY BE WORKING WITH OBVIOUSLY A VERY SMALL STAFF, BUT RELYING ON THOSE VOLUNTEER HOURS THAT WE ALL RELY ON SO HEAVILY.

SO THAT'S PART OF OUR CRISIS RESPONSE PLAN. AND WE'RE ALSO AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE I SAID, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WORKING WITH FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND THOSE WHO ARE FURLOUGHED. WE WANT TO THANK MAYOR. EXCUSE ME.

MAYOR. HOLLIDAY. INGRAM. ALSO, THE COUNCIL, THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR HELPING US TO SERVICE AT OUR FACILITY, WHICH IS GENERALLY, WE DON'T DO. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SERVICE TSA EMPLOYEES THIS PAST SATURDAY.

WE HAD A SIX HOUR TIME PERIOD. WE WERE WORKING WITH THE TSA VERY LIMITED STAFF AT THE AIRPORT, AND THEY HELPED COMMUNICATE TO THEIR, THEIR TSA STAFF MEMBERS ABOUT THIS FOOD DISTRIBUTION.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT CHECK MY NUMBERS HERE.

WE SERVED 554 HOUSEHOLDS. WHICH OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS EQUATED TO 1243 INDIVIDUALS OF THAT WE WERE FROM THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE 31,790 POUNDS OF FOOD, WHICH EQUALED 26,492 92 MEALS. THAT WAS IN A SIX HOUR PERIOD.

THAT'S THE REAL NEED THAT'S OUT THERE. AND ONCE AGAIN, WE WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND YOU ALL AND YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR HELPING US WITH THAT. THEY HELP MAKE IT A VERY QUICK IN AND OUT SEAMLESS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY BACKUPS ON, ON THE ROADS OR ANYTHING.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE IN, GET THEM SERVED AND, AND ON WITH THEIR DAY.

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BASICALLY URGENT NEED. IT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE THE CRISIS RESPONSE PLAN.

WE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE CAN HELP, WHETHER THAT'S DONATING TIME, DONATING MONEY OR DONATING PRODUCTS.

THIS IS INFORMATION I CAN ALSO SEND TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT ON YOUR YOUR NEWSLETTERS, YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA MEDIA. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

WE ALSO HAVE THIS IS MOBILE FOOD PANTRY ENTROPY DISTRIBUTIONS FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF OF NOVEMBER.

THESE ARE ONES THAT WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, INCREASED THEIR TIME.

TIME FRAMES. INCREASED MOBILE DISTRIBUTIONS. THIS YOU ALSO HAVE IN YOUR PACKET.

I CAN ALSO SHARE THIS WITH YOU. SO YOU CAN SHARE THIS AGAIN ON YOUR YOUR EMAIL NEWSLETTERS, YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND ANY OTHER PLACE YOU CARE TO SHARE.

I ALSO LEFT SOME OUT ON THE TABLE FOR ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTED TO GRAB THAT UP.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW, THEN GET SOME SPECIFICS AS TO HOW WE'RE ANSWERING THIS.

FEDERAL SHUTDOWN, WE ARE ASKING WE ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THE SENATORS, ASKING THEM TO FIND A WAY TO END THIS SHUTDOWN AND TO HELP US, YOU KNOW SERVE MORE PEOPLE AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE FOOD OUT THERE AND GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO.

I ALSO HAVE BUSINESS CARDS IF YOU WANT THEM FOR LATER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE SHEET NOW. I BELIEVE SOMEBODY MENTIONED THERE WAS A NUMBER YOU COULD TEXT AND THEY WOULD DELIVER.

IS THAT ON HERE SO THAT YOU CAN GET THAT WORK? YES. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ON HERE, I APOLOGIZE.

THERE'S FINE FOOD APPS, SO YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND THAT'S ONE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, FIND FOOD.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO YOU CAN HIT GET HELP. THERE ALSO IS A NUMBER THERE WHERE YOU CAN TEXT AND IT WILL I BELIEVE IT WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON ON HOW TO YEAH.

SORRY, I HAVE NOT DONE THAT IN A WHILE. I DID TRY IT OUT THOUGH.

BUT FINE FOOD, WHICH WILL HELP DIRECT YOU TO GET RESOURCES WITHIN YOUR AREA.

AND I THINK YOU CAN ALSO DO A TEXT, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO ON TO THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN YOU CAN GO TO THE SECTION OF FINE FOOD, YOU CAN LOOK UP SPECIFIC OR PANTRIES, BUT YOU CAN ALSO LIKE PUT IN AN ADDRESS OR AN AREA OF WHERE YOU ARE.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE NEED FOOD, IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST CONVENIENT TO GO TO THE ONE CLOSEST TO THEIR HOUSE.

IT MIGHT BE THE CLOSEST ONE TO THEIR WORK, OR TO THEIR SCHOOL, OR TO THEIR CHILD'S SCHOOL.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO TO THE ONE THAT'S CLOSEST TO YOUR HOUSE.

AND ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT PANTRIES HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS AND ALSO DIFFERENT DAYS WHERE THEY'RE IN OPERATION.

SO WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO TO LOOK FOR THE ONES THAT ARE BEST THAT BEST MEET THEIR SCHEDULING NEEDS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. SHROPSHIRE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU STATED THE NUMBERS FOR THE FOOD THAT THE CITY HAS GIVEN OUT.

THE CITY HAS BEEN A PARTNER WITH THE ATLANTA FOOD BANK COMMUNITY SINCE 2020, WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT.

THE CITY HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTING FOOD SINCE TWO, TWO, 2020 EVERY WEDNESDAY AT JEFFERSON PARK RECREATION CENTER FROM 11 A.M. TO 1 P.M.. AND THAT IS WHAT PART OF THE ROBOCALL IS ABOUT, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT.

AND I KNEW THAT BECAUSE OF THE SHUTDOWN THAT PEOPLE ARE IN NEED OF FOOD.

AND I WAS OVER THERE WEDNESDAY, HELPED WITH THE FOOD BECAUSE WE'VE ALL WORKED THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION.

WHEN IT STARTED OUT, WE WERE ALL THERE. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER FROM MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER, CUMMINGS, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUTLER, THE MAYOR BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS.

WE WERE ALL THERE WORKING THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION AND IT IS STILL GOING ON SINCE 2020, AND THE CITY STILL HAS THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ATLANTA FOOD BANK COMMUNITY. AND THEY DELIVER FOOD EVERY WEDNESDAY.

VEGETABLES FROM LOCAL FARMERS IS WHAT IS DELIVERED.

AND SOMETIMES WHEN THE NAP PROGRAM COMES, THERE'S ALSO MEAT PART OF THAT DISTRIBUTION, I KNOW, AND THERE'S A NEW TRUCK THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY WANT TO BRING TO SET UP SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO UNLOAD THE BOXES.

SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO HELP, THEY CAN ALWAYS VOLUNTEER.

ON WEDNESDAY AT JEFFERSON PARK RECREATION CENTER TO HELP BAG THE FOOD AND DISTRIBUTE THE FOOD.

AND YOU ARE CORRECT. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, THE LINE USED TO BE WRAPPED AROUND TRI-CITIES.

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SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A GREATER NEED IN THE CITY.

WE ACTUALLY DELIVERED TO THE SENIORS WHO CAN'T COME OUT AND GET THE FOOD.

SO THAT'S DELIVERED TO THEM AS WELL. BUT THE CITY ALREADY HAS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ATLANTA FOOD BANK COMMUNITY.

AND I WAS LOOKING AND SEE TO PULL THE NUMBERS, AND IT HAS BEEN OVER THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF POUNDS WORTH FOOD EVERY WEEK SINCE 2020. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILMAN ATKINS.

YES. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR PRO TEM. MISS MIDDLETON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION.

AND JUST AS COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE WAS STATING, I WAS A BIT STARTLED BY THE NUMBERS.

THE 70% INCREASE OVER THREE YEARS FOR DISTRIBUTION AND THEN JUST A 15% INCREASE OF DISTRIBUTION OVER THE PAST MONTH.

CORRECT. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. REALLY? I WANTED TO KNOW.

YOU KNOW, THE FOOD BANK HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER.

AND AS THOSE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY FIND THEMSELVES DEALING WITH OR EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITY, HOW WE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP THE FOOD BANK SERVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS THAT WE COULD DO THAT, EITHER THROUGH TIME OR RESOURCES OR PRODUCT.

COULD YOU EMAIL US THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THAT THROUGH WHATEVER PLATFORMS THAT WE HAVE? AND MR. CITY MANAGER, IF WE GET THAT INFORMATION, THE CITY KEEPS A DIRECTORY OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO SOME OF THE POINTS OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES. NOT ALL CITIZENS ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR HAVE ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC INFORMATION, BUT THROUGH THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT ABOUT HOW THEY CAN ACCESS SOME OF THE FOODS OR BE OF SERVICE IF THEY'RE NOT EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITY.

SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND I ALSO WANT TO EXTEND A THANK YOU TO FORMER FORMER COUNCIL PERSON THOMAS CALLOWAY FOR STARTING THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE FOOD GIVEAWAYS AT, THE JP REC CENTER ON WEDNESDAYS.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE IN THIS TIME OF NEED.

WE REALLY NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND I REMEMBER WHEN Y'ALL CAME INTO OUR COMMUNITY, AT FIRST IT WAS A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL. COUNCILWOMAN WOMAN. ROGERS. YES.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M GLAD THAT OUR CITY IS A PART OF THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, BUT IS THERE ANOTHER WAY THAT THIS INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITIES, CAN GO CITYWIDE THROUGH OUR UTILITY BILL? JUST MAYBE A BRIEF SNIPPET.

I KNOW WE HAVE A FOOD DISTRIBUTION EVERY WEDNESDAY, BUT MAYBE TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY PUTTING IT OUT THERE AGAIN AND THESE ADDITIONAL MOBILE DELIVERIES. I KNOW I'VE BEEN REPOSTING THIS AND SHARING IT AND HERE IN THE METRO AREA.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT AREAS THAT YOU SERVE IN, BUT OTHER AREAS THAT YOU SERVE IN.

BUT IT HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL. IT HAS BEEN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT AND YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[XII. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

ZIEGLER. YES. SO FOR THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM.

AND SO WE WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.

BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS MONTH'S MEETING SO WE CAN CATCH UP ON THE BUDGET AND FINANCE UPDATES.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS. YES. AND FOR THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMITTEE.

EVERYONE ON COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED THOSE EVALUATIONS THAT ARE READY TO BE LOOKED AT, AND WE NEED YOUR INPUT SO THAT IT CAN BE PROVIDED BACK TO MISS JESSIE.

CORRECT? NO. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT.

SHE SENT IT OUT. YES. SO WE NEED THE INPUT BACK FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EVALUATION INSTRUMENTS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN. SHROPSHIRE. OH, NOTHING.

NO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS AGENDA ITEMS. SO FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, IT IS A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR

[XIII.4. Council Review and Approval of a Resolution Supporting the Transmittal of a Draft Capital Improvements Element (CIE) to the Atlanta Regional Commission For regional and State Review as Required for the Consideration of An Impact Fee Program ]

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

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MOTION PASSES. MR. CITY MANAGER, I SEE THIS IS A PRESENTATION FROM WATER AND SEWER.

OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING TRANSMITTAL OF A DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT TO THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION FOR REGION, REGIONAL AND STATE REVIEW AS REQUIRED FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM.

APPROVED. WAIT, I NEED A MOTION. RIGHT. DON'T WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? MR. CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE TO DISCUSS THIS OR WHAT? THIS WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU HAD. OKAY.

THAT YOU YOU JUST HAD. SO IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSMIT THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF IT AT YOUR SEATS, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSMIT IT TO THE ARK SO THEY CAN START THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING THE IMPACT FEES.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE IT.

OKAY, OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN WE HAVE THE MOTION.

IT'S THERE SECOND. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. I DIDN'T HEAR THE MOTION.

TO GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE TRANSMITTAL OF A DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT C, TO THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION FOR REGIONAL AND STATE REVIEW, AS REQUIRED FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE A MOTION TO OPEN FOR FOR DISCUSSING POSSIBLE ACTION ON

[XIII.5. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Camp Creek TAD Termination Confirming Resolution]

IT'S BEEN MOVED IMPROPERLY. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, I SEE. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO BE PREPARED TO EXPLAIN THAT ITEM.

BUT THE MOTION AND SECOND AND THE VOTE HAPPENED AND SO I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT CAN MOVE ON.

THANK YOU, ATTORNEY WIGGINS. THAT WAS THE MOTION TO OPEN.

OPEN. YEAH. YEAH THAT WAS THE MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR.

SO NO. YEAH. MOTION TO OPEN. YES YES OKAY THEN I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

MR. JOHNSON IS HERE. AS YOU KNOW, HE HAS BEEN OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND ONE OF HIS SPECIALTIES IS TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICTS.

SOME TIME AGO, THE CITY DID DO A TAD OVER IN THE CAMP CREEK AREA.

AND HE'S GOING TO EXPLAIN JUST HOW THAT ONE IS CLOSED AND CONFIRMED.

CLOSED. THIS RESOLUTION WOULD RECLOSE IT RIGHT, JUST SO WE CAN BE CLEAR, BECAUSE SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE NOW THAT WE DID FILE WITH FINANCE, MAY HAVE SOME QUESTION MARKS.

SO WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT IT'S CLOSED BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING A NEW TAB.

AND SO WE NEED TO CLOSE THIS ONE TO FREE UP THE MAXIMUM 10% OF YOUR TAX DIGEST FOR A POTENTIAL NEW TAB.

MR. JOHNSON. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS IS IN THE NATURE OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.

THE REDEVELOPMENT POWERS LAW BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE WAY YOU TERMINATE A TAD, YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT ONCE ALL THE REDEVELOPMENT COSTS ARE PAID OR PROVIDED FOR. AND THEN YOU ADOPT A RESOLUTION SO THAT IN ON JANUARY 3RD OF 2023 THIS COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION THAT DIRECTED THAT CERTAIN PAYMENTS BE MADE AND THEN DIRECTED THAT AFTER ALL THOSE PAYMENTS ARE MADE, THAT THAT THEY YOU ALL AUTHORIZED ANY ACTION, ANY AND ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO, TO DETERMINE TO AFFECT THE TERMINATION OF THE HAD.

BUT THE RESOLUTION DID NOT DECLARE THAT ONCE ALL THIS STUFF IS DONE, THE TAD IS TERMINATED.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES. THIS RESOLUTION CONFIRMS THE FACT THAT THOSE PAYMENTS THAT WERE CONTEMPLATED IN 2023 HAVE BEEN MADE. AND AS OF MARCH 3RD OF 2023, THERE WAS $0 IN THE SPECIAL FUND OR ANY OF THOSE

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AND SO THE RESOLUTION DECLARES THAT AS OF MARCH 4TH, 2023, THE CAMP CREEK TAD IS TERMINATED AND DISSOLVED.

THAT'S ALL IT DOES. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? OH, SORRY. COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN.

FREELY. YEAH. THANKS. MR. JOHNSON, JUST A QUESTION OUT OF MY OWN PERSONAL CURIOSITY.

WHY THE SORT OF TWO YEAR, TWO AND A HALF YEAR.

GAP. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW. AND WHAT I KNOW IS THAT I RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, SO THE THE RESOLUTION IN 2023 WAS DRAFTED BY HUNTON AND WILLIAMS. THEY SENT IT TO THE CITY, AND THEY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMUNICATION SINCE THAT TIME.

SO THEY DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS DONE WITH THAT RESOLUTION.

AND SO WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT RESOLUTION HAD BEEN SENT TO THE CITY.

IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIND OUT THAT THERE HAD BEEN ACTION ON IT.

I CONFIRMED THROUGH FINANCE THAT THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCE PROVIDED ME WITH A COPY OF THE MINUTES THAT HAD THE RESOLUTION ATTACHED. BUT THEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE RESOLUTION, WE SAW, I MEAN, SO I THINK THAT THE FOLKS AT HUNTON AND WILLIAMS THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS NECESSARY TO BE DONE.

AND FOLKS THAT WERE THAT LOOKED AT THE RESOLUTION WEREN'T SO SURE.

SO NOW THAT WE ARE NOW THAT WE ARE DESIROUS OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE ROOM WITHIN THAT 10% CAP TO CREATE A NEW TED, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE THAT ROOM BECAUSE THE CAMP CREEK TED HAS BEEN TERMINATED.

SO THIS IS THERE THERE WAS SOME ERRORS IN SOME, SOME SOME, SOME ERRORS IN COMMUNICATION IN OVER IN THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD. AND THIS IS CLEANUP BUT NO HARM, NO FOUL.

CORRECT. RIGHT. CORRECT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS.

MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT IS THE ASK OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION? AND I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN ADDED TO YOUR PACKET.

IT'S JUST TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION THAT WILL CONFIRM THE TERMINATION OF THE CAMP CREEK TAB.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ATKINS THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO IS TO MAKE THE MOTION.

SO MR.. MAYOR PRO TEM, I MOVE TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE TERMINATION OF THE CAMP CREEK TAB.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS COUNCIL IN DISCUSSING EXCUSE ME, COUNSEL,

[XIII.6. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Waiving Rule 26 ]

COUNCILWOMAN. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. I PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS TO WAIVE RULE 26, WHICH IS TO RE ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ON AND AND VOTED ON.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WAIVE RULE 26 TO DISCUSS THE WATER RESOURCE DEPARTMENT WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IN REFERENCE TO MR. JACKSON, MR. WILLIE JACKSON'S PROPERTY. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES, I JUST WANTED TO.

WE HAVE TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? OH. I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY. SO WHO? SECONDED. SO SECOND. OKAY.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. DISCUSSION. YES. I JUST AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM FOR THE RESIDENTS, FOR MR. JACKSON, I DO RECALL IN THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD GIVEN US SOME LANGUAGE FROM THE ORDINANCE, AND COULD YOU GIVE US FIRST THE LANGUAGE FROM RULE 26? BECAUSE I THINK THAT A PART OF THAT TALKS ABOUT, I THINK, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES OR SOMETHING.

AND THEN THE LANGUAGE FROM THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU READ LAST WEEK.

CERTAINLY. MAYOR PRO TEM, IF I MAY. YES. OKAY.

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SO IF YOU'LL JUST INDULGE ME FOR A SECOND, RULE 26 SAYS A MOTION THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO COUNCIL MAY NOT BE PRESENTED AGAIN FOR A PERIOD OF 60 DAYS, UNLESS THERE HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES THAT WOULD WARRANT SUCH ACTION.

EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES MUST BE APPROVED BY TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.

SO FIRST THE RULE SAYS YOU WAIT 60 DAYS UNLESS THERE'S BEEN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES.

COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE'S MOTION IS TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF RULE 26.

AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. IS IT BECAUSE OF EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES OR YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER FOR SOME OTHER REASON? YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN. WELL, IT COULD BE. IT COULD BE FOR EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE WATER RESOURCE DEPARTMENT INFORMATION WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO MR. JACKSON. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I NEEDED THAT CLARITY.

SO WE CAN APPLY RULE 26 TO YOU GUYS'S POTENTIAL ACTION.

SO THIS BOARD WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE BY TWO THIRDS OF VOTE.

IT IS ONE, 234567 OF YOU HERE TONIGHT. AND SO IT WILL REQUIRE A 4.6.

YOU CAN'T DO A 0.6 PERSON. BUT SO FIVE OF YOU TO DECLARE THAT THAT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE THAT COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE, JUST MENTIONED TO WARRANT BRINGING BACK THE MOTION THAT WAS BEFORE YOU LESS THAN 60 DAYS AGO.

THE OTHER THING I FOUND IS RULE TWO. RULE TWO PROVIDES IN THE SAME SECTION 2-2002. TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF RULES. SEMICOLON, AMENDMENTS OF RULES THAT THAT'S THE TITLE OF IT.

THAT RULE SAYS THAT ANY RULE NOT PROVIDED FOR BY CITY CHARTER OR CITY ORDINANCE.

AND THEN IN PARENTHESES IT SAYS OTHER THAN CHAPTER TWO, MAY BE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED BY A VOTE OF TWO THIRDS OF ALL MEMBERS DURING A SINGLE MEETING AND SHALL NOT BE REPEALED, ALTERED OR AMENDED UNLESS BY CONCURRENCE OF A TWO THIRDS OF ALL MEMBERS AT TWO CONSECUTIVE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETINGS.

THIS RULE IS INTERESTING IN THAT THE PARENTHESES PROVIDES OTHER THAN CHAPTER TWO, AND CHAPTER TWO IS WHERE YOU FIND THE RULES.

SO IF WE BREAK THAT RULE DOWN, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ANY RULE NOT PROVIDED FOR BY CITY CHARTER OR CITY ORDINANCE SKIP OVER THE PARENTHESES MAY BE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED.

RIGHT. SO BUT IT SAYS OTHER THAN CHAPTER TWO.

SO ONCE APPLYING THAT, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT Y'ALL'S RULES IN THE ORDINANCE SAID THAT ANY RULE OTHER THAN CHAPTER 2ND MAY BE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED. AND BECAUSE RULE 26 IS IN CHAPTER 22, YOU COULDN'T WAIVE IT UNLESS YOU GUYS MEET THE LESS THAN 60 DAYS EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? PROBABLY NOT. I SEE CONFUSED.

SO SINCE THERE WERE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES, WE COULD YOU HAVE TO VOTE THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE.

WE WE HAVE TO COME TO CONSENSUS. YOU HAVE. WELL, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

TWO THIRDS. TWO THIRDS VOTE THAT THERE WERE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES TO RE ENTERTAIN A MOTION LESS THAN 60 DAYS.

IT COULDN'T BE FOR ANY OTHER REASON. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT RULE TWO SAYS BECAUSE RULE TWO SAYS YOU CANNOT.

SUSPEND ANYTHING IN CHAPTER TWO. SO THE FIRST, I GUESS COURSE OF ACTION WOULD TO VOTE ON THE IF IT'S THIS EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE OR NOT.

YOU GOT IT. OKAY. SOMEONE WANT TO PUT THAT MOTION FORWARD? YOU WANT TO PUT THE MOTION FORWARD FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES? YES.

SO. YEAH. I MOVED TO THAT WE'RE ENTERTAINMENT OF THE MOTION THAT FAILED ON OCTOBER 23RD.

RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE. IS IT EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES? YES, YES. BASED ON THE DOCUMENTATIONS THAT WE NOW HAVE.

EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES MUST BE DETERMINED. MUST BE APPROVED BY TWO THIRDS OF THE VOTE OF COUNCIL.

SO THIS BODY, FIVE OF YOU HAVE TO AGREE THAT THERE ARE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES.

THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE MOTION TO RE ENTERTAIN THE MOTION FROM LAST MEETING.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION. EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES BASED ON THIS DOCUMENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

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THERE WAS A PART OF OUR PACKET. I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN IT, WHAT IT ENTAILS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE IS.

IF SOMEONE COULD ENLIGHTEN. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT TO. SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

AND IT'S THE DOCUMENT WATER RESOURCE RESOURCE DEPARTMENT DOCUMENT.

YEAH. YEAH. SO, MADAM ATTORNEY, I DON'T YES, I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME PAPERS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS. I DON'T KNOW THE CONTENTS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEING PERCEIVED AS THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

SO THAT WAS MY DISCUSSION ITEM. ARE YOU SEEKING A RESPONSE FROM ME ON ON THAT? SURE. FORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE ONE. I, I THINK THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE WOULD NEED TO BE DETERMINED BY THIS BODY, NOT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. YEAH. SO I'M JUST IF SOMEONE COULD TELL US WHAT THE.

MAYBE THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. IF. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SHROPSHIRE. IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT.

THAT IS THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE. WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IS THE DOCUMENT FROM THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE.

IT IS A.

IT IS A DOCUMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, BECAUSE MR. JACKSON WAS DENIED DUE PROCESS IN TRYING TO GET THE SINKHOLE FILLED ON HIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE THE CITY DID NOT HAVE IN PLACE THE REQUIRED ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL BOARD FOR A HEARING. 11 YEARS IS TOO LONG FOR THE CITY NOT TO HAVE NOT TO HAVE THE BOARD IN PLACE.

MR. JACKSON WAS NOTIFIED BY HAND. DELIVERY LETTER PACKAGE IN WRITING FROM THE DIRECTOR.

IN THE HAND DELIVERY INFORMATION. IN THE LETTER PACKAGE, WHICH WE HAVE.

I FAILED TO INFORM MR. JACKSON OF THE A TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT AND THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT HE EXPECTED TO PAY.

A LETTER WAS GIVEN TO HIM IN AND NO EXACT AMOUNT THAT HE EVER HE WAS EVER GIVEN IN WRITING.

THERE WAS NOTHING EVER GIVEN TO HIM IN WRITING OF WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO PAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOCUMENT PROVIDES.

COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS. THANK YOU. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE I THINK IT'S THE STORM LINE SINKHOLE EVALUATION SUMMARY. AND I'M JUST SORT OF GOING THROUGH IT TO SEE WHAT INFORMATION I CAN FIND OUT.

SO THIS IS A HOME THAT WAS BUILT SOMETIME IN THE 1950S TO 1960S.

AND THE ORIGINAL PROPERTY, PLAT IS NOT PLACED IN THE EASEMENT AND DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR FUTURE MAINTENANCE OR REPAIRS.

FURTHERMORE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE LINE IS LOCATED BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY WHERE ALL INFRASTRUCTURE, REGARDLESS OF EASEMENT STATUS, IS CONSIDERED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY. SO SINCE THERE IS NO EASEMENT THAT'S LOCATED BEYOND THE STORM WAY, THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE STORM LINE OR OTHER STORMWATER CONVEYANCE.

AND I'M SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO READ THROUGH THIS. THEY'RE SAYING, FURTHERMORE, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAY BE HELD LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES. BUT THEN THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY THERE'S A COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY.

AND THAT'S SAYING THAT THE REPAIR OF THE STORM LINE IS ELIGIBLE FOR COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO MY QUESTION FIRST TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.

THIS COMMITTEE, THIS COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, IS THIS AN ACTIVE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY WE HAVE.

WE'RE BOTH LOOKING AT EACH OTHER LIKE, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I DEFINITELY WANT TO HELP HIM, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND I KNOW I CAN'T ASK.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I THINK THE TOTAL COST OF REPAIRS.

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CORRECT? COUNCIL MEMBER. AND THE ASK WAS FOR THE CITY TO PAY THE $3,000 AS WELL.

SO. OKAY, I KNOW, BUT IT WAS TOTAL 9000, AND THE 6000 WAS WHAT THE CITY HAD AGREED TO PAY.

A WE'RE TAKING WE'RE TAKING THE CITY IS TAKING CARE OF THE $6,000.

CORRECT? YEAH. WHAT'S THAT QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

SO SIX SIX WAS ON THE CITY, AND THE THREE THREE WAS ASKED OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

OKAY, SO SO THE $3,000 THAT THAT'S ASKED OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

DOES THAT FALL UNDER THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CHECKING IN RIGHT NOW. OKAY.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S THE WAY TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

BUT I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AS OPPOSED TO IT'S 9000 TOTAL.

WE'RE GOING TO PAY SIX. HE PAYS NINE NOW. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO PAY SIX.

SHE PAYS THE THREE. AND NOW I KNOW WHAT WE'RE BRINGING.

THE QUESTION NOW IS FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF THE $3,000.

CORRECT. SO TO PAY FOR THAT I KNOW MISS PITTMAN HAD MENTIONED THE, THE STORMWATER.

WHAT IS IT, THE, THE Y'ALL HELP ME OUT. THE APPEALS BOARD I'M SORRY.

APPEAL BOARD. NO, NOT THE APPEAL BOARD. THE FUND THAT'S BEING USED.

I MEAN, THE FUND THAT WE HAVE THAT SUPPOSEDLY TAKES CARE OF STORMWATER.

YEAH. THE STORMWATER FUND. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM.

I MEAN, JUST FOR US TO JUST COME OUT AND TAKE CARE OF IT, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND BASED ON THIS HERE AND LIKE I SAY, I'M JUST KIND OF READING THROUGH IT. IT SAYS THAT THERE IS THIS COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS A PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE NOW? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, RIGHT? I JUST I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING.

I MEAN, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT IF WE DO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING IN PLACE. THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION. SO THERE IS A DIVISION FOR THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR ORDINANCE. OKAY. THIS IS WHAT I READ FROM LAST MEETING.

ALRIGHT. AND I AM HAPPY TO MAYBE WE CAN PUT IT UP.

SO YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO MY VOICE THE ENTIRE TIME.

IS THAT POSSIBLE? SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE AND.

YEAH, I THINK I THINK THE ISSUE IS NOW THAT IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT HE WAS NOT DUE PROCESS TO SAY IF THE IF THE CITY SAYS TEN $3,000.

HE HAD NO WAY TO APPEAL THAT DECISION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN APPEALS BOARD BECAUSE THERE'S NO APPEALS BOARD IN PLACE.

SO IT'S A WHOLE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET A, YOU KNOW, APPEALS BOARD IN PLACE.

THERE'S A LOT TO DO TO TO SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN OKAY.

YEAH. BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE IT IN PLACE, THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY FIND A WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

FAIR ENOUGH. AND THAT IS TO WAIT TO SEE. AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR MISS MELISSA, BECAUSE I ALWAYS TELL YOU NAME OF OUTSIDE THE STORMWATER FUND THAT WE DO HAVE IN PLACE. DOES THIS COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, DOES THAT FALL UNDER THAT? YES. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. SO THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE ASSESSMENT DONE OF MR. JACKSON'S PROPERTY. SO I THINK TO SAY THERE IS A SINKHOLE.

THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THAT PIPE AND IT'S BEYOND THAT.

SO WE DID INDICATE THAT HE COULD QUALIFY UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

AGAIN, THE TOTAL COST OF THE REPAIR WOULD BE $9,000.

THE STORMWATER UTILITY CAN PAY SIX. AND THE RESIDENT WE SAID WOULD PAY $3,000.

AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, PER THE ORDINANCE, IS WE NEED THE RESIDENT TO AT LEAST PAY FOR A PORTION OF THE MATERIALS.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE THE $3,000 FOR IS THE MATERIALS.

THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR THE REMAINING COST OF THE LABOR.

AND ALSO KEEP IN MIND, A CONTRACTOR DOES THIS WORK.

THE CITY OF EAST POINT STORMWATER DIVISION DOES NOT LAY A REPAIR STORMWATER PIPE.

SO AGAIN, THINK THAT WE'RE HIRING A CONTRACTOR TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK.

WE DO HAVE TO GET A RIGHT OF ENTRY FORM. BUT AGAIN THE SINKHOLE IS GETTING LARGER.

IT DOESN'T GET SMALLER. AND WE FIRST RECEIVED NOTIFICATION I BELIEVE IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR AND ALSO LAST YEAR IN OCTOBER WITH MR. WILLIE JACKSON'S PROPERTY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEIR ASK IS.

THEIR ASK IS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BY VOTE DECIDES TO WAIVE THAT FEE AGAIN.

WE KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE PIPE. IT DOES CROSS MULTIPLE PIECES OF PROPERTY, AND THE SINKHOLE IS NEAR HIS FRONT YARD.

I HAVE PHOTOS OF THAT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

I DID JUST EMAIL THAT TO THE CLERK. CAN YOU CAN YOU GET THAT?

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SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THE ASK IS. OKAY. AND SO THE $6,000 THAT THE CITY HAS AGREED TO PAY, THAT IS WHAT'S COMING FROM THIS STORMWATER UTILITY.

YES. WE SET ASIDE MONEY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE WATER THAT'S COMING OFF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GOING INTO THE PROP, THE PIPE ITSELF. ACCORDING TO THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IS GOING THROUGH THE PIPE THAT POSSIBLY CAUSED IT TO DETERIORATE. DETERIORATE, EXCUSE ME, IS FASTER.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME IN AT THE ONE THIRD, WE'RE ASSESSING THAT ONE THIRD OF THE WATER COMING OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

GOING THROUGH THE PIPE MAY HAVE CAUSED THAT PIPE TO DETERIORATE OVER A SET AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO PEOPLE ASKING, HOW DO WE COME UP WITH IT? WE CAME UP WITH THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF WATER COMING OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

OKAY. AND I KNOW I KEEP ASKING THE QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR.

SO THE STORMWATER RESERVE, THOSE FUNDS THAT WE DO HAVE THAT IS THIS THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

CORRECT. THOSE ARE THE SAME. THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAME.

NO, WE'RE NOT USING RESERVES. IN ORDER TO DO RESERVES, WE HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

I MEAN, NOT RESERVES. I'M SAYING WE SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO I HAVE FUNDS THIS YEAR AVAILABLE TO ASSIST MR. JACKSON, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU SO WISH. THE ANSWER IS YES.

AGAIN, THE TOTAL COST OF THE STORMWATER REPAIR IS $9,000.

OUR ASK WAS THAT HE PROVIDE $3,000. THEY'RE ASKED TONIGHT IS THAT YOU WAIVE THAT FEE DUE TO THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE SINKHOLE GETTING LARGER? IT IS PROBABLY DOUBLED IN SIZE.

SIZE SINCE OUR INTERVENTION IN INVESTIGATING AN ASSESSMENT OF THE PIPE ISSUE.

SO THE THING IS WHAT? AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO I'M I'M TRACKING ON ALL OF THAT, BUT WHAT I DON'T. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL CLAIMS THAT HAVE COME IN WITH REGARDS TO STORMWATER DAMAGE TO YARDS? YES. THERE HAS BEEN SOME AND AND IN, IN THOSE INSTANCES, AGAIN, THE PIPE DOES NOT BELONG TO THE CITY.

IN SOME INSTANCES THERE WERE WORK NEEDED AND REPAIRS ON THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE PAST.

WE MEET HALFWAY. OKAY, SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE BOTH LOOKED AT THE PLAQUE.

WE SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FALL OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY WATER IS FLOWING THROUGH THIS PIPE.

SO IN THOSE CASES, THERE WAS NEVER AN ISSUE OR CONCERN.

I DO THINK PROBABLY AFTER THIS YOU MAY HAVE SOME.

WE TRY TO WORK WITH RESIDENTS AS BEST AS WE CAN WITHIN REASON AND THE SCIENCE TO BACK THAT INFORMATION AND DATA.

AND SO AGAIN, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT PIPE IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY.

HOWEVER, THE WATER FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY FEEDS INTO THE PIPE THAT CROSSES MR. JACKSON'S PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, IT HAS WORSENED IN SIZE.

I WOULD IMAGINE THE LONGER WE WAIT THAT PROBABLY THE ESTIMATE MAY INCREASE THE LONGER YOU WAIT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE'VE RECEIVED RECENTLY.

OKAY. AND THE ONLY THING I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO EXTEND THIS COURTESY TO HIM AND WE WAIVE THE THE $3,000 THAT, THAT HE'S BEING REQUIRED TO PAY. I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP PANDORA'S BOX.

AND LIKE YOU SAY, IF THERE ARE OTHER IF THERE ARE OTHER CLAIMS THAT WILL COME THROUGH.

BECAUSE I KNOW IF IF I HAVE THE SAME SITUATION THAT HE HAS, I WOULD WANT YOU ALL TO WAIVE IT AS WELL.

BUT MY SINKHOLE IN MY YARD IS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FAIR PROCESS, SOMETHING IN PLACE.

I THINK AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE. OKAY.

OKAY. MY QUESTION WOULD BE SO IF HE WANTED TO APPEAL THAT DECISION, HOW WOULD HE GO ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW THAT'S I APOLOGIZE. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING.

THAT'S THE APPEAL PROCESS. TO COME TO YOU ALL TO MAKE A DECISION.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THEY'RE ASKING THAT WHAT THE AT ANY POINT IN TIME, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN EMPLOYEES DECISION.

AND SO THAT'S IT. WE'VE DONE AN ASSESSMENT, AND THIS IS WHAT OUR ASKED, ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE.

BUT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING. OTHERWISE, AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THAT FAIR PROCESS IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. I MEAN, YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT AGREE WITH US IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'M ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ASSESSMENT AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO TO HANDLE THIS. BE HONEST, YOU PROBABLY WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL CLAIMS COMING TO YOU MOVING FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. COUNCILMAN. FREELY.

THANKS. SO THE QUESTION BEFORE US NOW, THOUGH, IS WAIVING OF RULE 26.

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RIGHT. SO I'M STILL UNCLEAR ON WHAT THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE IS.

I KNOW THERE'S THIS PAPER HAS BEEN REFERENCED.

FRIENDS. I DON'T SEE A DATE ON THIS. IS THIS NEW INFORMATION? WHO CAN EXPLAIN THAT? I DON'T THINK SO. I'M NOT SURE.

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A DATE OR SIGNATURE MIND.

RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM A BIGGER LETTER.

I JUST DON'T KNOW. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SEEING THIS.

I MEAN, THE DATE WOULD NORMALLY BE ON THE FIRST PAGE, WOULD IT NOT? IT CANNOT. THIS IS YOUR LETTER. WELL, NOW I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE PICTURE HERE.

THE INITIAL PICTURE RIGHT HERE THAT YOU SEE WAS THE PHOTO THAT WE TOOK IN OCTOBER 14 TO 2024.

AND YOU SEE, RIGHT NOW I'M SCROLLING DOWN. I FROZE.

NOW THAT'S THE SIZE OF THE HOLE. IN MARCH OF 2025.

SO IF YOU SEE HERE IT HAS ENLARGED PROBABLY FOUR TIMES THE DIAMETER OF WHEN MR. JACKSON ORIGINALLY CAME TO THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT WITH SOME ASSESSMENT ASSESSMENT TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF HIS PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU SEE HERE, IT IS QUITE LARGE FROM WHERE IT ORIGINATED IN OCTOBER OF 2024.

THAT'S OCTOBER 2024. AND NOW YOU CAN GO TO MARCH.

THERE YOU GO. RIGHT THERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT HE SAID BECAUSE IT'S PROFESSIONAL, PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT.

I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE SINCE THE LAST VOTE A FEW WEEKS AGO.

I. TOOK WATER FROM THE CITY PROPERTY SINCE THE LAST VOTE.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MR. CLEAR ON. OWN CLASS. BUT YOU STILL IN. THAT'S THE EXPLANATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU, I THINK SO COUNCILWOMAN. ROGERS.

YES. I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT, BUT TURN THE MIC OFF.

OKAY, SO I UNDERSTAND BUT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT OPENING PANDORA'S BOX AND WHATNOT, BUT I WAS ACTUALLY ON COUNCIL WHEN WE PASSED THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE, AND IT WAS REALLY SET UP TO HELP RESIDENTS IF THEY CAME ACROSS ISSUES LIKE THIS.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, MR. CITY MANAGER, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THIS OR.

I'M SORRY, DIRECTOR ECHEVARRIA, DID I SAY IT RIGHT? HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THIS? WHAT WOULD WE CALL IT? IT WAS NOT AN ACCOUNT, BUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS THERE RIGHT NOW? WELL, WE HAVE A SEVERAL MILLION IN RESERVES, BUT AGAIN, WE IN ORDER TO HANDLE THIS, WE DON'T NEED RESERVES.

WE PLACE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR DAMAGES TO PROPERTY FROM CITY OWNED STORM DRAIN PIPES.

THAT'S MAJORITY OF WHAT ME AND MY STAFF DO EVERY DAY IS CORRECTING THINGS THAT'S COMING OFF OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND PIPES.

ALRIGHT, SO AGAIN, WE ARE CURRENTLY NOT HAVING ANY BUDGETARY ISSUES.

WE ARE CURRENTLY ON TARGET FOR THE STORMWATER UTILITY.

I DO NOT SEE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE AN ISSUE.

AGAIN. WE WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE AND WE LOOKED AT THE $9,000, WE FIGURED THAT WE COULD PAY THE SIX AND THE ONE THIRD WOULD BE THE RESIDENT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE CONCERN IS, IS THE ONE THIRD COST.

AND AGAIN, HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT PER THE ORDINANCE, IS THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF WATER COMING OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD JUSTIFY THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WITH REPAIRING THE STORMWATER PIPE.

AND I THINK THAT THE ISSUE IS TO COUNCIL MEMBER.

FREHLEY'S POINT IS HE DIDN'T HAVE A RECOURSE OF ACTION WHEN HE WAS PROVIDED.

THERE WASN'T A WHAT WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR? THERE WASN'T AN APPEALS BOARD FOR HIM TO GO TO TO SAY, HEY, I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS. SO AT WHAT INSTANCE OR AT WHAT POINT IN TIME HE DIDN'T HAVE A RECOURSE OF ACTION FOR THIS ISSUE. SO I THINK THAT.

RIGHT. SO TYPICALLY WHEN SINCE THERE IS NO BOARD, WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE SUBMIT CLAIMS THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS WHERE WE WE DEAL WITH THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT MY CALL TO MAKE.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE PROCESS. THERE IS NO BOARD, BUT THERE ARE STAFF HERE.

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A DIRECTOR CAN ALSO MAKE THAT CALL. THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT CAN MAKE THAT CALL.

CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE THAT CALL. SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS IN THE ORDINANCE.

MAY I CORRECT SOMETHING? MR.. IS IT OKAY? YES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS, I KNOW THEY TOOK THE ORDINANCE DOWN, BUT IT IS VERY CLEAR WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

IT'S AND IT SAYS IN C IN THE EVENT. SO THERE MUST BE AN INVESTIGATION FIRST, RIGHT? WELL, A CLAIM IS MADE. AND MR. JACKSON DID DO THAT.

HE MADE HIS CLAIM. RIGHT. AND THEN FROM THAT CLAIM, THERE'S AN INVESTIGATION THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

YOU SEE THAT IN B. RIGHT. SO A IS THE CLAIM RESPONSIBILITY.

HE'S DONE THAT. B IT SAYS UPON RECEIVING HIS CLAIM, THE DIRECTOR WHO IS MISS ECHEVARRIA, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, SHALL CAUSE AN INVESTIGATION TO BE DONE.

AN INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU SAW THE PICTURES, RIGHT? THEY CHECKED IT OUT, AND THAT INVESTIGATION HAS DETERMINED THAT THE CITY WATER RUNOFF IS COMING THROUGH MR. JACKSON'S PIPE.

THAT'S ON HIS PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RIGHT.

AND THE DETERMINATION BY THE DIRECTOR IS THAT YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS.

THE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS, IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, SHALL THEN DETERMINE, IN THEIR BEST PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, THE PERCENTAGE OF DAMAGE.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RESULT OF THAT INVESTIGATION IS THAT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY WAS THE WHAT? THE 60. THE 6000. RIGHT. THE 6000. RIGHT. AND SO IF THE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS DETERMINES THAT THE CITY MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE DAMAGE, HE SHALL THEN ESTIMATE THE COST OF MATERIAL AND EXPENSES REQUIRED TO CORRECT THE CLAIMANT'S DRAINAGE PROBLEM. AND THEN THE FINDINGS THEN GO TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN LOOK AT THE NEXT SECTION.

THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE DISCRETION OR THE AUTHORITY RATHER TO AFTER HE DETERMINES ALL THE AVAILABLE FACTS.

RIGHT FROM THE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, CITY ATTORNEY AND MR. JACKSON STATEMENT. THE NEXT STEP IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDS TO YOU GUYS FOR CONSIDERATION THAT THE CITY OFFERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE REPAIRS. RIGHT. THE NEXT SENTENCE, THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION SHALL BE AT LEAST EQUAL TO THE PERCENTAGE OF THE COST OF MATERIALS, CONTRACTUAL EXPENDITURES, AND LABOR REQUIRED FOR WHICH THE COLLECTION AND DISCHARGE OF THE CITY WATER MAY BE RESPONSIBLE.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE CITY MANAGER IN HOW MUCH THAT THE CITY SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN MR. JACKSON OR WHOEVER'S RIGHT, WHOEVER IS SUBMITTED THIS CLAIM.

HOW MUCH THE CITY SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE REPAIR.

THAT'S THE PROCESS. AND THEN WHATEVER IS DECIDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN A RELEASE IS EXECUTED BY MR. JACKSON, RELIEVING THE CITY OF ANY LIABILITY BECAUSE WE'RE SENDING PEOPLE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

BLAH, BLAH BLAH. SO IN LIGHT OF THAT CLARIFICATION, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO BRING FORWARD AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT DOESN'T ASSIST THE COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE'S MOTION WITH THE EXTRAORDINARY, BUT THAT'S JUST AN FYI.

YES. SO WOULD THE MOTION BE RELEVANT TO WHETHER OR NOT EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES CAN BE HEARD FROM THE DIRECTOR ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER A MOTION LESS THAN TWO DAYS SO HOW DOES THAT MIX WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION? IS THAT STILL RELEVANT? THE MOTION, IF HE SAID IT'S COMING DOWN TO HIM MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.

WELL, THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT EITHER YOU. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN EVEN 30 DAYS.

RIGHT. SO UNLESS HIS IF HIS RECOMMENDATION IS COMING BEFORE 60 DAYS, YOU STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS.

OKAY. THAT THAT COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE BROUGHT UP.

RIGHT. GOTCHA. BUT IF HIS RECOMMENDATION IS COMING 60 DAYS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.

OKAY. OKAY. YOU MAY BE BACK IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE REGARDLESS.

RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN ATKINS CLARIFICATION.

MADAM ATTORNEY, BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WENT THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND YOU CHECKED OFF ALL OF THE PARTS THAT OR

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CORRECT? RIGHT. WHICH WOULD BE THE LAST PART.

SO THEN WOULD WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE WOULD BE? BECAUSE THAT IS DIFFERENT. BECAUSE IN THAT WHAT I HEARD, DIRECTOR ECHEVARRIA STATE, IS THAT WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW THE FAIR ORDINANCE.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK I HEARD HER SAY AT THE LAST MEETING.

I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY WHEN I THINK A QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION? YOU SAID, FOLLOW YOUR ORDINANCE. SO I'VE HEARD THE DIRECTOR SAY, FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE.

I HEARD THE CITY ATTORNEY SAY FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. JACKSON HAS DONE EVERYTHING AND WE'VE JUST NOT RECEIVED THE RECOMMENDATION, A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM WAIVING A RULE BECAUSE WE'VE NOT EVEN GONE THROUGH WHAT? THE LOSSES. WE'VE NOT EVEN COMPLETED ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS OF THIS SECTION.

SO YES, AND IT DOES SAY THE CITY MANAGER MAY AND IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO PROVIDE YOU THAT RECOMMENDATION.

RIGHT. WHICH IS GREAT. AND IF I GUESS IF WE WERE TO REWOUND THE VOTE, LAST MEETING WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT THEN WHEN YOU MADE THE MOTION TO DENY THE 3000.

AND SO GETTING HIS RECOMMENDATION SINCE IT'S NOT COMPULSORY, IT'S A MAY MAY ASSIST YOU GUYS IN DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE ASK IS, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE 100% PARTICIPATION FOR THE CITY FOR THE REPAIR.

OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE IN RULE 25, IT TALKS ABOUT EXTRA ROOM 26.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I STAND CORRECTED. IT TALKS ABOUT IT MENTIONS EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

YES. THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'M HEARING TODAY, THEY DON'T SOUND NEW IN TERMS OF WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE IS.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR MR. JACKSON TO BE MADE WHOLE.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, BASED ON WHAT DIRECTOR ECHEVARRIA IS STATING, IS THAT THIS DOES CONTINUE TO GROW.

I THINK HE SHOULD BE MADE WHOLE. BUT I ALSO THINK WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING.

I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE RECENT PICTURES FROM HIS PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN HELP YOU GUYS. THOSE PICTURES THAT WE SAW WERE LAST YEAR AND MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

MAYBE THERE'S A CHANGE THERE. THAT'S A AGAIN, A DETERMINATION FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE, WHETHER OR NOT THERE HAVE BEEN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES TO RECONSIDER THIS. LESS IN LESS THAN 60 DAYS.

OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN. SHROPSHIRE. AND I THINK THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE IS THE FACT THAT IT'S GETTING BIGGER. BUT IS IT ANY WAY THAT WE CAN LET FORMER MAYOR PITMAN SPEAK WHO CAN BEST EXPLAIN EVERYTHING? WHAT'S GOING ON? ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT? SURE.

THAT'S FINE. OKAY. MR. PITMAN, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THE WAIVER THAT SHE ASKED FOR THE COUNCIL CAN WAIVE ANY POLICY OR ACTION OVER ANYTHING IN THE CITY EXCEPT PERSONNEL, AND FIRE CAN CHANGE THAT. SO WHEN THE WAIVER WAS ASKED TO WAIVE RULE 26, THAT IS BECAUSE ROOMS 26 SAYS YOU NEED TO COME UP WITH EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES BASED ON WHAT WAS GIVEN AT THE FIRST MOTION THAT WAS MADE. THOSE ARE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES.

ARE THIS THE CITY SINCE JANUARY, WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN MR. JACKSON A NOTICE, HAS NOT FOLLOWED THE ORDINANCE.

THE ORDINANCE SAYS THE CITY WILL GO OUT. THE ENGINEER WILL GO OUT.

RIGHT UP THE PROBLEM, RIGHT UP THE RESOLUTION, RIGHT UP WHAT IT WOULD COST.

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NO, BECAUSE THE THE STORMWATER ENGINEER IS NOT THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

AND HE SAID, WELL, THIS IS $9,000. WELL, THE ORDINANCE SHOULD HAVE SAID AND IT'S IN THERE.

WHAT DID THE HOMEOWNER DO TO CAUSE OR AGGRAVATE THE PROBLEM? IF THE HOMEOWNER DIDN'T CROSS THE PROBLEM OR DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT WORSE, THEN HE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING ANYTHING.

BUT THE CITY SAYS, WELL, WE THINK HE SHOULD. THAT IS WHEN THE RESIDENTS GO TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS BOARD THAT HAS NOT BEEN SET UP IN THE 11 YEARS THAT THIS CITY HAS BEEN COLLECTING MONEY.

THE COUNCIL, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY KIND OF DECLARATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE MONEY SHOULD BE PAID BY THE RESIDENTS OF ANY UNTIL YOU GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE APPEALS BOARD THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SET UP LIKE THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

WE NEVER SAID THAT ANYONE OTHER THAN RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE A SAY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO A RESIDENT'S PROPERTY IN THIS CITY, OTHER THAN A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE APPEALS BOARD.

THEN THAT RECOMMENDATION GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF THE BOARD SAYS PAY SOME, NONE OR ALL, THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION.

BUT THERE'S A HEARING AT THAT BOARD. HE HASN'T GOTTEN IT.

SO THE EXTRAORDINARY THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE JANUARY.

HERE IT IS, NOVEMBER. NO HEARING, NO APPEALS BOARD.

SHE SHOWS YOU WHERE THE HOLE HAS GOTTEN BIGGER.

AND THIS MONTH, YOU'LL BE PAYING ANOTHER STORMWATER FEE.

HE'S PAID IT FOR THE 11 YEARS HE'S LIVED IN THAT HOUSE.

AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING HIM ON YOUR PROPERTY YOUR PROBLEM.

WELL, WHY IS HE PAYING A STORMWATER FEE? AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS WAIVER, LET'S BE CLEAR.

THE COUNCIL CAN WAIVE ANYTHING WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THAT SECTION TWO.

IF THE COUNCIL SAID WE WAIVE BECAUSE IT IS THE FAULT OF A COUNCIL, IF THE AT THE FAULT LINES WITH THE COUNCIL.

THE COUNCIL CAN WAIVE WHATEVER IT IS THEY WANT TO WAIVE.

THAT POWER IS INVESTED IN THEM, NOT IN THE CITY MANAGER.

THE CITY MANAGER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS EXCEPT RIGHT OFF ON WHATEVER THE ENGINEER SAYS CONCERNING GRANTING IMMUNITY AND ENTRY OF RIGHT OF WAY TO THAT PROPERTY. THAT IS IT.

THAT IS IT. AND THAT IS WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO TONIGHT.

YOU DIDN'T DO THE RIGHT THING AT THE LAST MEETING.

SO THAT MEANT BEFORE YOU COULD BRING IT BACK, YOU HAD TO GO AND ENTERTAIN THE MOTION AGAIN BY WAY OF RULE 26, WHICH ASKS FOR EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. THOSE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES STILL EXIST.

IT DOES NOT TAKE 11 YEARS TO COME UP WITH A BOARD.

THIS CAME OUT IN JANUARY. HERE IT IS, NOVEMBER, AND YOU STILL DON'T HAVE IT.

AND YOU'RE STILL TELLING HIM TO WAIT. TO WAIT FOR WHAT? AND, I MEAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ALL WOULD SIT HERE AND NOT HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THIS.

I GOT THREE CITATION PROTESTS IN THIS VERY ORDINANCE UP THERE, BECAUSE COUNCIL CAN'T MAKE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT BECAUSE THEY MERGED TWO AND CONFLICTING INFORMATION IN IT. ANYBODY READING THIS KNOWS THAT.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT. AND WE AND THE CITY NEEDS TO GET READY.

I MEAN, COME TO SOME CONCLUSION. THIS ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED SO THAT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT FROM THE STORMWATER UTILITY. THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IN THAT ORDINANCE.

HIS PROPERTY COMES ON THE STORMWATER UTILITY, FERTILITY, NOT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

SO THOSE TWO WAIVERS, THE FIRST WAIVER WAIVED RULE 26.

THEN IT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL WAIVER TO WAIVE BECAUSE OF THE NON EXISTENT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE

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THE COUNCIL CANNOT VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT COME TO THEM.

THEY CAN ONLY WAIVE IT AND ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF NOT FOLLOWING THE POLICY.

YOU STILL THERE? SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I MEAN, THE MOTION TO FOR THE FOR THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, RIGHT.

ARE WE VOTING ON THAT? RIGHT. YES. SO THAT'S THE MOTION WE'RE VOTING FOR.

IF IT IF IT IF IT IS. YES. ARE THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NO. MADAM CITY CLERK. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. COUNCILMEMBER. FREELY.

COUNCILMEMBER. ATKINS. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. ZIEGLER.

COUNCILMEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCILMEMBER. I'M SORRY.

COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS. HI. MAYOR PRO TEM. MITCHELL.

THE MOTION. THE MOTION FAILED. THREE, THREE. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON THIS? YES, I HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT.

THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, AND WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT NOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT.

WE DO. I MEAN, FORMER MAYOR PITTMAN DID SAY QUITE A FEW THINGS, PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS SAID THE CITY WASN'T FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE.

THAT PUTS SOME RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON US TO DO SOMETHING, WHETHER IT BE HERE TONIGHT, WHETHER IT BE AT THE WORK SESSION.

BUT THE OTHER CONCERN IS THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND THE UTILITY, LIKE THOSE TWO ARE TOGETHER, BUT IT IS CAUSING CONFLICT FOR A RESIDENT. SO IT'S IT'S QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

ALSO THE APPEALS BOARD. SO THIS IS THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THIS MOMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

BUT THEN IF WE WAIT THAT LONG, THE SINKHOLE GETS BIGGER.

SO I'M JUST INTERESTED TO HAVE SOME DIALOG AROUND WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS AS A COUNCIL TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, AND NOT ONLY FOR HIM, BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE EXPERIENCING THIS THAT HAVE PAID INTO THE STORM WATER UTILITY.

COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. AND I'M NOT SHOCKED AND I'M NOT SURPRISED YOU SAID THAT WE ARE HERE AGAIN AND NOBODY WANTS TO DO ANYTHING.

IT'S IT'S IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU. YOU KEEP VOTING AGAINST THE RESIDENT.

AND FOR SOME REASON, I'M HEARING DIFFERENT THINGS FROM WHAT WAS SHARED LAST WEEK OR AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

AND IF THE CITY MANAGER REALLY HAD THE INTENT TO DO SOMETHING, IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE NOW.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, AT THE LAST MEETING, HE WAS WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S NOT HERE IN TRYING TO MOVE MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO AT THAT MOMENT, HE HE COULD HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OR DID SOMETHING ABOUT THE ISSUE.

BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH MR. JACKSON HERE, WHO IS ON A FIXED INCOME.

AND ALL YOU'RE VOTING AGAINST IS TO PAY THE ADDITIONAL $3,000.

AND I HEARD THERE WERE IT WAS ACTUALLY MORE THAN THREE THAT VOTED YES, BUT SOMEBODY CHANGED THEIR VOTE.

YIELD. COUNCILMAN. ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT IN IN THIS INSTANCE, MY VOTE IS NOT AGAINST MR. JACKSON. MY VOTE IS FOR THE ORDINANCE.

AND SO TO WAIVE RULE 26, IT STILL DOES NOT GET TO THE POINT OF THE ADDITIONAL $3,000 THAT MR.

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AND SO I AM VERY HAPPY TO REVISIT RULE 26 IF THAT RECOMMENDATION TRAVELS WITH THE REQUEST TO WAIVE THAT.

BUT WE STILL DON'T HAVE THAT FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY TO NO CITY MANAGER.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, SENATOR, FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

THE FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER IN IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

SO WAIVING RULE 26 STILL DOES NOT GET US TO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

IT JUST WAIVES THE RULE. THE OTHER PIECE TO THAT IS IN MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE SEEMS TO BE A CHANGE SINCE WE LAST VOTED, NOT A CHANGE SINCE JANUARY.

20. SEVEN SAYS READING THE KIND OF MOTION AND MOTION THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO COUNCIL MAY NOT BE PRESENTED AGAIN FOR A PERIOD OF 60 DAYS, UNLESS THERE HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES THAT WOULD WARRANT SUCH ACTION.

AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE TWO THIRDS OF COUNCIL.

AND THEN RULE 27. IS THAT WELL, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET, BUT THAT'S ONE ANOTHER ONE TO CONSIDER.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME WHAT, WHEN THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE WOULD, WOULD HAVE BEEN FROM BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXPLICITLY SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, YES I BELIEVE THAT IF WE COULD HAVE THE CITY MANAGER TO FORMALLY PRESENT THIS BODY WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, AND IF THAT WILL THEN REQUIRE US TO WAIVE THE RULE, WE WOULD HAVE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE WILL KNOW FOR WHAT WE WOULD KNOW THE ORDINARY OR CHANGE. AND THEN ALSO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING THE ISSUE.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU WANT TO. HAVE THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION PER SEE.

I'M JUST READING WHAT'S HERE. THE CITY MANAGER MAY RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION THAT THE CITY OFFER TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE DRAINAGE AREA SOLELY AS AN OFFER FOR COMPROMISE AND SETTLEMENT.

SO YOU WANT TO GET THAT FROM THE CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? BECAUSE. AND THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES.

CORRECT. BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT BASED ON THE ORDINANCE, A CLAIM HAS BEEN MADE, AN INVESTIGATION HAS TAKEN PLACE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK THAT WE CAN THEN CONSIDER A WAVE OF THE RULE, BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS ALSO RECOMMENDING AND WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE HAS BEEN. IF IT'S NOT A TIME CERTAIN, THEN IT SEEMS THAT THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE COULD BE THE FACT THAT THE SINKHOLE CONTINUES TO EXPAND, WHICH WOULD BE AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION IS, AND WE CAN VOTE ON THOSE THINGS AND CLOSE THAT OUT.

IS THERE A MOTION YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MR..

MAKE MY STATEMENT. WELL, I THINK THAT. YEAH. OKAY.

STILL AS WELL FOR DISCUSSION. COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS.

SO TO KIND OF DEFINITELY ECHO MY COLLEAGUES SENTIMENTS, I'M NOT AGAINST MR. JACKSON AND WHAT IT IS. I KNOW WE WANT TO HAVE A SOLUTION TO THIS SITUATION HERE, BUT I AM BIG ON LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP PANDORA'S BOX BECAUSE WHAT WE DO, FOR ONE, WE MUST DO FOR THE OTHER.

AND IF THAT'S WHAT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROPER PROCESS IN PLACE.

I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT AN EXTENUATING CHANGE IN THIS.

I THINK IT'S THE SITUATION THAT'S EXTENUATING HERE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT.

NUMBER ONE, I DO KNOW THAT THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE LARGER THE HOLE THE SINKHOLE GETS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT THE PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURE SHOULD BE, THERE SHOULD BE AN APPEALS PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S NO APPEALS BOARD IN PLACE.

SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE FULFILLED EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH, EVERYTHING THAT'S ON HERE.

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AND THEN WE COME BACK. I MEAN, BECAUSE, I MEAN, EVERYBODY, WE GO BIG AND WE WE GO ALL DAY AND WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE DON'T FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE. THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT'S HERE IN BLACK AND WHITE, BUT NOW IT'S NOT CONVENIENT TO DO IT.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION BECAUSE YOU ARE ON A FIXED INCOME AND ASK YOU TO COME UP WITH $3,000.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU DON'T HAVE IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROCESS, THAT WE FOLLOW, THE PROCESS IS HERE. AND LIKE I SAY, THERE ARE TWO EXTENUATING SITUATIONS.

NUMBER ONE, I MEAN, IT COULD RAIN FOR THE NEXT THREE, FOUR DAYS AND AND THAT HOLE WILL GET LARGER.

SO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND ALSO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO PROCESS IN PLACE FOR TO EVEN DO THIS APPEAL.

BUT THIS ORDINANCE DOES SAY THAT WE DO NEED A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

SO ALLOW HIM TO TO DO THAT. AND CAN WE BRING THIS BACK NEXT, NEXT WEEK AT WORK SESSION AND DISCUSS IT OR.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE WORK SESSION.

I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN THE ORDINANCE FOR THE APPEAL BOARD, BUT I THINK SINCE IT'S NOT IN PLACE, ONE, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN PLACE IMMEDIATELY SO WE WON'T OPEN PANDORA'S BOX, RIGHT? YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? OKAY. BUT SINCE IT'S NOT THERE, I THINK THAT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE FAIR TO THE RESIDENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PROCESSES IN PLACE. SO WHEN I'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BUT ONCE AGAIN, TO KEEP THAT BOX FROM PANDORA'S BOX FROM OPENING, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS ORDINANCE SO WE WON'T GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU GOT PEOPLE DOWN THERE.

COUNCILMAN. FREELY. THANK YOU. AND I'M ALSO NOT VOTING AGAINST MR. JACKSON BY ANY MEANS. THE MOTION WAS THAT THERE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO WAIVE RULE 26. I DID NOT HEAR AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

I STILL HAVE NOT HEARD AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

I WILL AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE. LAST TIME WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS, I HAD THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE WAS A PROCESS PLAN IN PLACE SHORT OF HER MOTION TO ADDRESS MR. JACKSON'S ISSUE, THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD SAID, YES, THERE'S FUNDS, BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY ASKED, IS THIS ABOUT BUDGET? IS THIS ABOUT PROCESS? WHAT IS THE ISSUE? AND IT WAS PROCESS, NOT BUDGET. SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A SOLUTION SHORT OF THIS SPECIAL MOTION TO ADDRESS MR. JACKSON'S ISSUE. SO IF THAT IS STILL AN OPTION, SOMEHOW THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE ALL WANT TO GET TO.

BUT I DID NOT HEAR AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE THAT THAT MADE ANY SENSE TO ME TO TO VOTE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM. COUNCILWOMAN, SHROPSHIRE.

THANK YOU. AND I THINK THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES FOR THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO APPEALS BOARD TO ALLOW DUE PROCESS AND THAT THE FACT THAT THE WHOLE IS THE SINKHOLE IS CONTINUING TO GROW EVERY DAY, THAT IT RAINS EVERY DAY.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY STATED, THERE'S IT SAYS EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

SO IT COULD BE THE SINKHOLE IS GROWING, THE PROCESS NOT IN PLACE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTORS. AND I DO REMEMBER LAST WEEK THERE WERE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS.

AND WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS SAID LAST WEEK.

SO NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN. WOULD NOT ALLOW DUE PROCESS TO EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE. WE'RE AT THE SAME PLACE WHERE WE ARE LAST WEEK.

COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS. ALRIGHT, SO BASED UPON WHAT I'M HEARING, WE'RE WAITING ON A RECOMMENDATION TO COME BACK FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

AND THEN LOOKING AT SUBSECTION E RIGHT HERE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO APPOINT SOME PEOPLE TO AN ADVISORY GROUP.

AND THEN THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFORMATION, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND THE UTILITY ORDINANCE. AND MAYOR PRO TEM IS GOING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH US.

WHAT IS IT DO WE NEED TO DO? DO WE NEED TO PUT THIS ON OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA?

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YOU'RE UP. YES.

THANK YOU, MR.. MAYOR PRO TEM. I'VE HEARD TWO THINGS.

TWICE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE.

PART OF THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT AN APPEALS BOARD FOR MR. JACKSON TO GO BEFORE. I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT COULD BE A CHANGE, BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER AN APPEALS BOARD.

AND SO IN ORDER, A CHANGE WOULD BE IF THERE WAS AN APPEALS BOARD AND THEN THERE WASN'T ONE.

BUT BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, WE'VE NEVER HAD IT.

IT WAS NEVER ESTABLISHED. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE COULD USE THAT AS AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE BECAUSE IT NEVER EXISTED.

IS THAT A QUESTION? OH, OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S JUST THAT A CHANGE THE WAVE WAVING. 2026 SAYS THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

AND SO THERE WAS NEVER AN APPEALS BOARD. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL.

WE SHOULD DEFINITELY ESTABLISH AN APPEALS BOARD SO THAT WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE.

AND I KNOW, MR. CITY MANAGER, I KEEP TALKING ABOUT BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS. AND SO THE CITIZENS DESERVE TO BE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THESE PROCESSES.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LEGISLATION TO ESTABLISH THEM, WE SHOULD HAVE THEM.

AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM, THEN THIS BODY SHOULD TAKE FORMAL ACTION TO ERADICATE THEM.

MR. PRO TEM, MAY I JUST JUMP IN AND SAY SOMETHING THAT I WAS JUST TALKING TO MELISSA ABOUT? WE DON'T SEE IN THE ORDINANCE AN APPEALS BOARD.

ADVISORY BOARD. IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD. SO I KEEP THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON THE SCREEN.

I'M I JUST ALL I COULD DO IS GO BY THE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE AVAILABLE.

AND SO I KEEP HEARING THE WORD APPEALS BOARD.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS RIGHT NOW. THERE IS A SECTION.

CAN YOU GO TO THE SECTION THAT SAYS APPEALS? THERE IS A SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT APPEALS, BUT IT'S NOT AN APPEAL FROM A DECISION ABOUT REPAIRS. IT'S AN APPEAL FROM YOUR CHARGES. RIGHT.

CAN YOU GO TO THAT? OKAY. SO IT'S ABOUT THE FEE, NOT THE DECISION.

YES. AND MAYBE YOUR PROPERTY HAS BEEN ASSESSED INCORRECT VALUE.

GOTCHA. AND THAT IS THERE'S NO WAY THAT PROPERTY CAN BE ASSESSED.

WE USE GIS IMAGING TO ESTIMATE THE UTILITY SERVICE CAME UP WITH THE SURFACE AREA TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY.

DIFFERENT APPEAL PROCESSES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ASSESSED THE VALUE OF.

GO TO THAT SECTION MELISSA, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YEAH. SO YOU SAID IT WAS. WHAT TYPE OF BOARD WAS IT? IT WAS A IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD IN THE. SO I THINK I DO REMEMBER THAT HEARS APPEALS.

OKAY. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC PLEASE. IT'S NOT ON.

SORRY. IN SECTION EIGHT, DASH 2456 APPEALS. ANY CUSTOMER WHO BELIEVES THE PROVISIONS ARE DIFFERENT.

FIVE DIVISION FIVE OF THIS ARTICLE WITH RESPECT TO THE CALCULATION OF THE SERVICE FEE APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTY WAS APPLIED IN ERROR, MAY APPEAL IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. SO THAT'S THE ONLY APPEAL PROCESS, IS TO THE IMPERVIOUS RATE THAT YOU'RE BEING CHARGED FOR THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.

AND THAT APPEAL IS TO FULTON COUNTY. IT'S NOT AN APPEALS BOARD.

SO IS THERE IS THERE ANY RECOURSE OR ANY WAY TO APPEAL AN ASSESSMENT MAY, I GUESS.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE DIRECTOR TO PAY ONLY 6000? THAT'S WHEN THE CITY MANAGER COULD GO BACK TO THE SECTION AGAIN.

I'M ONLY READING WHAT IT SAYS. THERE IS A SECTION THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY MANAGER MAY RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE CITY PARTICIPATE IN THE REPAIR AND. WAIT. STOP RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. AND THAT'S IN DIVISION FOUR.

THAT'S NOT EVEN IN DIVISION FIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE BECAUSE, LIKE FORMER MAYOR PITTMAN SAID, THE SEPARATION OF YOUR.

STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY IS SEPARATE FROM YOUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

SO YOU HAVE A DIVISION FOUR THAT SAYS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE ON THE SCREEN. DIVISION FIVE IS THE UTILITY.

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THAT'S WHERE APPEALS COME FROM. SO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT DIVISIONS THAT ADDRESS TWO DISTINCT ISSUES.

AS MISS PITTMAN SAID, RIGHT IN THE MANAGEMENT PORTION OF YOUR ORDINANCE IS THE PROCESS THAT MR. JACKSON IS GOING THROUGH TO GET THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN HIS REPAIR, BECAUSE IT IS TRUE THE THE RUNOFF FROM THE CITY STREETS IS GOING THROUGH HIS PIPE, CONTRIBUTING TO THE HOLE. RIGHT. HOW MUCH OF HIS DAMAGE IS THE CITY'S PROBLEM? THAT'S THE INVESTIGATION THAT MISS ECHEVARRIA DID.

THAT'S HOW SHE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. THE ONLY QUESTION IF Y'ALL WOULD HAVE RECONSIDERED THIS IS WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY SHOULD PAY MORE.

AND IT IS THE COUNCIL'S DECISION. THE CITY MANAGER ONLY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WE YOU MAKE THE DECISION HOW MUCH WILL BE PAID, HOW MUCH THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION SHALL BE.

PLEASE READ. SEE. IT IS CLEAR Y'ALL HAVE SOME ORDINANCE THAT ARE NOT THAT CLEAR.

THIS ONE IS OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS ADVISORY BOARD? THAT'S WHY I WAS I DIDN'T I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. IT'S ONLY ONE SENTENCE IN YOUR ORDINANCE.

AND AGAIN IT'S LEFT TO ASSUMPTIONS ON WHAT THEY DO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. IT JUST SAYS THAT YOU HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD.

AND WHERE DID WE FIND THAT 8-I THINK IT WAS.

OVER. AND. ABOVE ALL THAT IS IN THE CHARTER. AND HERE WE HAVE I HAVE A VOICE THAT SAYS ADMINISTRATION OF COUNCIL MEMBER MAKE A MOTION COUNCIL. AT THAT TIME, AND THAT WE COME BACK AND THE CITY BECOMES AN INJUNCTION, NOT ANOTHER CITY. WHY WOULD WE BE SEPARATED BY 40 AND 60%? 60% IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE STORMWATER UTILITY TAKING CARE OF PROPERTIES OF RESIDENTIAL PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT CAN BE CLEANED UP AND RETAIN ENOUGH OF OUR SENSITIVE AND BUILT.

HIS CURRENT WILL RUN OUT ON THE STREET. THE OTHER PART OF IT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR WHATEVER HE IS GOING TO DO FOR THAT TIME. WE HAD AN I HAVE THREE NOW. STONE THAT IS PART OF A SHIP THAT HAD TO BE PAID AND THAT IS WHY. IT IS ON CITY PRODUCE. THE ORDINANCE THAT WHERE THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE STORMWATER HEADING UP TO A MAN AND REMOVE WHAT YOU REMOVE.

THANK YOU. MISTER JONES. WHEN THE INFLAMMATION IS. WHERE THE AUDIENCE. WHERE IS THAT FIRST STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AUDIENCE AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT KILLER. AND THIS. IS THE ONLY CITY IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA WITH A SCHOOL BOARD. AND WE SEND OUR LOVE BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE HOMES BUILT IN THE 50S AND 60S.

AND THEN WHEN I SAW IN 2019, I STARTED PROTESTING AND TELLING YOU ALL THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT I SIGNED.

UP FOR. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION.

WHY WILL WE EVEN HAVE TO WRITE? THANK YOU, MISS PITTMAN.

SO DO WE HAVE YOU GUYS WANT TO JUST PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION? SO. SO EVEN WITH THE. I KNOW WE'RE READING THROUGH ORDER THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER.

SO WHEN CAN WE BE. WHEN CAN WE GET THAT RECOMMENDATION?

[02:45:02]

OKAY. IT'S UP TO COUNCIL IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE THE WORK SESSION OR A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WELL, I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSED, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS.

I WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION FOR MONDAY.

SO NEXT WE HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS TONIGHT? OH. BUT I WANT TO KNOW FOR MONDAY THE LEGAL ASPECT, BECAUSE I'M HEARING THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND THEN THE STORMWATER UTILITY, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS ORDINANCES, TWO DIFFERENT DIVISIONS.

OKAY. DO YOU CAN YOU DO A REVIEW OF THAT FOR US OR WHAT PURPOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ALIGNED.

ARE THEY ALIGNED? WHY DOES THE ASSESSMENT OF THE UTILITY AND THE MANAGEMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE? OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING WE'RE WAITING ON IS THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN WE, AS A COUNCIL, SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WE WANT TO APPOINT TO THIS BOARD, AM I CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. EVEN WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD, CAN WE WORK ON WHAT THE WHAT THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE? CAN WE, SINCE THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY. FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD, CAN WE GIVE THEM ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, BE NICE THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO INSIST THAT THEY HAVE SOME RIGHT PURPOSE, SOME PURPOSE. I JUST PULLED UP. AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE.

OKAY. DIVISION FIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. OKAY.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS. AND THEN IF YOU GO UP TO DIVISION THREE, STAFF TALKS ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE DIVISIONS UNDER STORMWATER IN YOUR CODE AND WHERE THE CLIENT IS COMING FROM.

OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE. YEAH. REALLY WE CAN MAKE THEM.

APPEALS FOR IT IF WE GIVE THEM A PURPOSE. ANYONE.

COUNCILWOMAN, SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE ADVISORY BOARD.

SO WE NEED TO PUT A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR THE DUTIES AND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

WE KIND OF GOT AN IDEA THAT THEY ARE THE. THAT WOULD BE THE DUE PROCESS THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT THEIR IF THEY HAD QUESTIONS AS TO WHY THEY WERE DENIED, THEY CAN SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION THERE AND THEY WOULD COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

BUT I STILL SAY MR. JACKSON SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT THIS LONG BECAUSE THE SINKHOLE IS GETTING IS GROWING EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY. AND, AND AND UNLESS IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR WORK SESSION WITH POSSIBLE ACTION ON MONDAY. DID I HEAR SOMEBODY SAY NO? NO. I SAID, OH, THAT IT SHOULD BE. IF, IF, IF THAT'S THE ROAD THAT THE ROUTE THAT THEY WANT TO GO DOWN IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THEN PUT IT ON THERE.

POSSIBLE ACTION AND DISCUSSION. AND WE AS A COUNCIL CAN VOTE TO PAY.

WHATEVER FEE THE THE FULL FEE. OKAY. BUT NOW THIS QUESTION GOES TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T VOTE TO DO EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE. THE POLICY IS THE.

RULE IS THAT 60 DAYS. SO CAN IT GO ON WORK SESSION.

SO I THINK YOUR POINT IS, BECAUSE THEY DECLINED THE MOTION TO TO HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY SCENERY CHANGE, THAT MOTION NOW NEEDS AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE TO BE RECONSIDERED.

[02:50:03]

SO AND BOTH ARE POTENTIALLY BEING RECONSIDERED.

SO BOTH SO BASICALLY. THE MOTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.

WE COULD HAVE VOTED ON EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING THE RECOMMENDATION.

THAT WILL BE. BUT WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON THE RECOMMENDATION YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE.

BUT WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS YOU HAD A MOTION FOR WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE TO RECONSIDER THE MOTION ON THE WAIVER.

RIGHT. OKAY. THAT MOTION FAILED. SO TECHNICALLY, YOU CAN'T BRING THAT MOTION BACK FOR 60 DAYS BASED ON Y'ALL'S ROUTES. BUT ONCE WE GET A RECOMMENDATION BACK, DON'T WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MISS SHROPSHIRE IS SAYING? IS THAT THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE TO BRING BACK THE MOTION ON WHETHER THERE'S AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE IS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER, AND THEN AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE TO BRING BACK THE MOTION ON WHETHER TO WAIVE IT COULD BE WHATEVER IT IS, THE HOLE IS BIGGER OR SOME NEW INFORMATION. RIGHT.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO VOTE. NO. YEAH.

MR.. WAITING ROOM 26 AND. ANY MOTION WITH EXTRAORDINARY THEY SERVE 60 DAYS. BUT IF YOU WAIT, DID YOU RAISE THE WHOLE THING? OKAY. SO. OKAY.

OKAY. YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT. SO I THINK THIS IS JUST, IT'S WORK SESSION SO WE CAN JUST TAKE IT UP THEN. ANY ANYBODY ELSE? WAIT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I'M SORRY. WAIT. BEFORE WE MOVE AND I AND I KNOW THIS PROBABLY IS A LONG SHOT, BUT BEFORE A COUNCIL MEETING. MEETING ENDS, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RE ENTERTAIN A DECISION.

AND.

WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON JUNE 26TH. THE RECONSIDERATION IS RULE 27.

RULE 27 REQUIRES THE 2016 RULE 27 SAYS ONLY A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT VOTED ON PREVAILING TIME MAY RECONSIDER, AND VOTE MAY BE RECONSIDERED AT ANY TIME DURING THE SAME MEETING.

SO YOU CAN DO A RECONSIDERATION OF THE MOTION THAT FAILED.

BUT SOMEONE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE HAS TO BE THE ONE TO BRING UP THE MOTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE YOU STILL IN? BECAUSE NOBODY.

YEAH, I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY.

SO BECAUSE WE TOOK ACTION ON THIS ITEM THE LAST TIME, WE CAN'T EVEN TAKE ACTION AT THE WORK SESSION ON MONDAY, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING CORRECT? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? I CAN'T HEAR YOU. TAKE ACTION ON THE WORK SESSION, WHICH IS NEXT MONDAY.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE A YOU'RE BACK TO WHERE YOU STARTED TONIGHT WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE.

THAT IF YOU WANT TO WAIVE SHE SHE STARTED OFF AND I'M SORRY TO CALL YOU SHE.

COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE STARTED OFF WITH WAIVING RULE 26.

RIGHT? BUT THERE'S RULE TWO. DON'T FORGET ABOUT RULE TWO.

RULE TWO SAYS YOU CAN'T WAIVE ANYTHING IN CHAPTER TWO.

CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO WHERE SHE WAS TRYING TO GO WAS TO ESTABLISH AN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE.

AND BECAUSE AND Y'ALL DIDN'T AGREE THAT THERE WAS ONE.

WELL, NOT A MAJORITY OF YOU GUYS AGREED THAT THERE WAS ONE.

IT REQUIRES TWO THIRDS, RIGHT. SO THAT MOTION FAILED.

SO YOU CAN BRING IT BACK ON WORK SESSION. BUT IT REQUIRES NOW PROBABLY ABOUT 3 OR 4 MOTIONS TO GET THERE.

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OKAY, YOU GET PAST THAT TWO THIRDS VOTE, THEN YOU GO TO WE WANT TO BRING BACK THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE 3000.

THE EXTRAORDINARY CHANGE THERE AGAIN COULD BE A MYRIAD OF THINGS.

THE WHOLE IS BIGGER NEW INFORMATION. THE RECOMMENDATION YOU GET PAST THAT BY TWO THIRDS VOTE.

NOW YOU ARE RIGHTFULLY PER YOUR RULES RIGHT. ABLE TO RECONSIDER THE THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE $3,000 BASED ON WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER.

EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT, GUYS. EXECUTIVE SESSION. MR.

[XIV. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

OKAY. SO I HAVE TWO REAL ESTATE. ANYONE ELSE? TWO REAL? ONE PERSON. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO REAL ESTATE AND ONE PERSONNEL ITEMS MOVED IMPROPERLY.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASS. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECONVENE? SECOND. MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO PROCEED? DISCUSS RETURNING TO ATLANTA AIRPORT RIGHT AWAY.

SO MOVED. MOVED AND PROPERLY. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. SECOND.

MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.