Dec 01, 2025 City Council

[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]

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ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ATKINS. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. SHE IS IN THE BUILDING. GOT IT. OKAY.

WHAT? WHAT TIME ARE YOU LEAVING, COUNCILMAN BUTLER? UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN, WE'LL LOSE QUORUM AT THAT TIME. IN 15 MINUTES, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN GET DONE IN 15 MINUTES, BUT WE CAN START WITH THE INVOCATION. WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS HERE, SO WE HAVE SIX. WE'LL START WITH THE INVOCATION BY REVEREND KENNETH JELKS FROM SAINT STEPHEN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING. GRACIOUS GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE TIME SO GRACIOUSLY GRANTED ON TODAY. WE PRAY YOUR POWER UPON THIS AUGUST BODY. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GOVERN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS AGENDAS, AND YOU WOULD COVER AND KEEP NOT ONLY OUR CITY STATE, BUT OUR COUNTRY AND OUR ENTIRE WORLD, THAT WE MIGHT COME TOGETHER IN A SPIRIT OF UNITY. WE THANK YOU FOR JOBS AND WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SERVE. WE PRAY GOD AGAIN, YOUR POWER FOR THE LEAST, THE LESS AND THE LOST THAT WHAT WE DO HERE TODAY MIGHT BE GOVERNED BY AN ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE, LOOKING TO COVER THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED. WE THANK YOU. IN YOUR NAME DO WE PRAY? AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR SERGEANT AT ARMS THIS EVENING IS CAPTAIN ROBINSON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

[V. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS - Capt. Robinson]

[VI. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]

[VII. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES]

[IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

SHOULD THE SPEAKER DESIRE TO GIVE HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, HE OR SHE MAY DO SO BY NOTATING WHAT SPEAKERS SHALL RECEIVE THE TIME ON HIS OR HER COMMENT FORM, PROVIDED THAT THE SPEAKER GIVING HIS OR HER FORM PROVIDED THAT THE SPEAKER GIVEN HIS OR HER FORM, THAT HE OR SHE GIVES ALL OF THE PART OR PART OF HIS OR HER TIME, UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME. SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THE TIME OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING. QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS.

THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER. SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITIES SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE FOREGOING. MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU CAN CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER FIRST. WE HAVE MISS SANDRA

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COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE USED TO CHARTER AND CITY POLICIES. IN HER AWESOME RESPONSE TO MISTER JONES HAVING BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL AS A MAYOR AND ONE OF THE SIGNEES.

ON TO EXPENDITURES FOR COMMUNICATING WITH RESIDENTS. THAT'S AN ORDINANCE WHERE $2,500 IS PLACED IN EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER'S ALLOTTED ACCOUNT IN THE BUDGET ITEM UNDER THAT WAS, ALONG WITH THE 21,000 THAT'S DUE TODAY. SORRY, MISS PITTMAN, THAT'S YOUR THREE THE SIX MINUTES. THAT'S FOR THREE MINUTES. THIS IS MR. WILLIE JACKSON GIVING YOU HIS THREE MINUTES? YES. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. DARLING. NOW, AS LONG AS I SERVED ON THE COUNCIL TEN YEARS, I NEVER WENT TO A CONFERENCE OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE STATE FOR ALL NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS. ONE TIME, I NEVER ATTENDED A MEETING, A NATIONAL COUNCIL, LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETINGS OR ANYTHING ELSE. I SPENT EVERY DIME IN MY BUDGET COMMUNICATING WITH THE RESIDENTS. WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE STATING THAT WE WANTED LOCAL OFFICIALS TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT. NOW, ACCORDING TO OUR BUDGET SET UP AND WITH THE STATE, ANY ITEM TRAVELING, TRAINING, EDUCATION, COMMUNICATING WITH A RESIDENTS.

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SO MY OUR HOUSE LAW DEGREE WOULD NOT COMPETE WITH WHAT THE STATE AND OTHER LAWS ON THE BOOKS HAD TO SAY. AND ACCORDING TO THEM. WHY IS THAT THING BOOGIE? OH, GIVE ME MY MINUTE BACK. SECOND, ACCORDING TO THEM, OUR CHARTER, IT IS THE COUNCIL THAT IS THE LAST WORD. AND TO BE ALL IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. NOT THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT DO ANYTHING BUT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THAT'S DIRECTLY TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND NOT THIS COUNCIL MEMBER OF THAT COUNCIL, MEMBER, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO WHEN I SAW THIS EMAIL WITH NINE EIGHT PEOPLE CC ONLY NO NO NO NO NO NO, THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SUPERVISES THE CITY MANAGER, NOT HIS STAFF. SO HIS STAFF HAS NO BUSINESS HAVING INFORMATION THAT'S BEING SENT TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT A CONCERN THAT HE HAS ABOUT A COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW, AS FAR AS FOR PAYING THIS DEBT, THE CITY OF EAST POINT FACED AND FULL CREDIT GOES ALONG WITH CREDIT CARD CHARGES, REIMBURSEMENT OF WHAT HAVE YOU, THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT STANDS BEHIND ANY CREDIT CARD CHARGE. THEREFORE, WE EXPECT CHARGES TO BE PAID THAT COMES TO THE CITY. THEN IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, ANYBODY YOU ELECTED TO THE COUNCIL, ONLY THE COUNCIL CAN SET PAY OR NOT PAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. YOU ALREADY OWE ME ABOUT FIVE MORE SECONDS, THOUGH. I GAVE YOU SOME EXTRA SECONDS AT THE END.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO GAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. AT THIS POINT,

[X. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COUNCIL? IF NOT, I WILL REMIND EVERYONE THAT TOMORROW IS THE EAST POINT MAYORAL RUNOFF ELECTION. TOMORROW, POLLS WILL OPEN AT 7 A.M. AND CLOSE AT 7 P.M. EVERY VOTE IS CRITICAL TO PROGRESS, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S JUST ONE THING ON THE BALLOT. MAKE SURE YOU VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION TOMORROW. YOU WILL HAVE TO VOTE AT YOUR ASSIGNED VOTING PRECINCT. AND THERE ARE, I THINK, ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. BUT MAKE SURE YOU GO TO MY VOTER PAGE IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT YOUR VOTING PRECINCT IS, BECAUSE WITH THE LAST CENSUS, WE DID SOME CHANGES. THERE'S BEEN AN ELECTION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A NEW PRECINCT OVER AT CAMP TRUITT. SO IF YOU ARE NOT SURE WHERE TO GO, MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE MY VOTER PAGE TO FIND OUT WHAT YOUR ASSIGNED VOTING PRECINCT IS.

AND MAKE SURE YOU SHOW UP AND VOTE. EVERY ELECTION IS CRITICAL TO PROGRESS, AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD IN TOMORROW'S ELECTION IF YOU VOTED EARLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS. BUT REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVEN'T, THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TOMORROW TO VOTE 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AT YOUR ASSIGNED POLLING POLLING LOCATION. I KNOW ONE IS EAST POINT. FIRST MALIBU I THINK IS THE VOTING CENTER. YOU

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[XI.1. Georgia Association of Water Professionals; Georgia Section of American Water Works Association Presentation of Water Distribution Excellence Gold Award to City of East Point Water Resources in Recognition of Outstanding Operation of Water Distribution During 2025]

EVEN ONE POINT IS A BIG DEAL, BUT THE CITY OF EAST POINT ROSE TO THE OCCASION. THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO HELP UTILITIES ACROSS GEORGIA ELEVATE PERFORMANCE, SAFETY, AND RELIABILITY. THE SILVER AND GOLD AWARDS RECOGNIZE THIS EXCELLENT EXCELLENCE, AND FIVE CONSECUTIVE GOALS EARN YOU PLATINUM BRAGGING RIGHTS. YOU ARE ON YEAR TWO IN A ROW, AND HONESTLY, IF YOU MISS ONE YEAR, YOU HAVE TO START OVER. SO THIS IS GREAT. AND I KNOW THAT THIS GROUP OF OF EXPERTS BEHIND ME IS REALLY DETERMINED TO HIT THAT PLATINUM STATUS IN FIVE YEARS. MELISSA, IF YOU COULD COME UP, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ENTIRE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM TEAM. YOUR WORK ISN'T GLAMOROUS ALWAYS, BUT IT IS CRITICAL. AND YOU SHOW UP EVERY DAY. YOU SOLVE PROBLEMS MOST PEOPLE NEVER KNOW ABOUT, AND YOU KEEP THE WATER FLOWING. YOU KEEP THE BUSINESSES GOING. YOU KEEP PEOPLE HEALTHY. THIS AWARD REFLECTS YOUR SKILL, YOUR PRIDE, AND YOUR HARD WORK.

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I HAVE ASHLEY CUTTER, THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE LEAD FOR THE AUDIT. I HAVE JERRY MCCOY, THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT SUPERINTENDENT, WHO IS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS. KATHY MURRAY, ASSISTANT WATER TREATMENT PLANT SUPERINTENDENT. I HAVE ANTHONY PRESSLEY, THE CONSTRUCTION SUPERINTENDENT. ERIC INLET, STORMWATER MANAGER. CODY HUDDLESTON, THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR.

JAMAL FRAZIER, METER REPAIR MANAGER. MARVIN WELLS, AND OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. THOMAS PERDUE, WATER MAINTENANCE FOREMAN. RUSSIA CAMERA AND SYSTEM CONTROL TECHNICIAN.

JOSEPH CHRISTOPHER, SEWER FOREMAN. DEBORAH JOHNSON, METER MECHANIC. MICHAEL CAULFIELD, METER MECHANIC. DANTE DAVENPORT, LEADER, MECHANIC. JONTAVIOUS WILKERSON, METER MECHANIC.

JAMES GLANTON, METER MECHANIC. KEVIN LILES, FIELD TECH. MIKE RUSSELL FIELD TECH. BRIAN MONTOYA, FILL TECH. ELIJAH PARASITIC. KHALIL MUHAMMAD, FIELD TECH. AND WILLIAM BULLOCK, JUNIOR FIELD TECH. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO, TEAM, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK EACH OF YOU FOR THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT EARNED THE CITY OF EAST POINT, THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS GOLD DISTRIBUTION AWARD. THIS HONOR IS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR DEDICATION, TEAMWORK, AND THE CARE YOU PUT INTO EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. YOU SHOW UP EVERY DAY COMMITTED TO EXCELLENCE, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORT THAT WE CAN DELIVER SAFE, DEPENDABLE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY. I'M PROUD OF THIS RECOGNITION, BUT I'M EVEN MORE PROUD OF THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON A WELL-DESERVED ACHIEVEMENT. THANK YOU. SO I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO GO ANYWHERE I WANT TO.

I'M GOING TO SEE IF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COMMENT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE THIS MOMENT. THE YOUNG LADY WHO PRESENTED THE AWARD IS SHE MISS CAMERON? PAM BURNETT, MISS PAM, HOW ABOUT HOW MANY CITY SCORED?

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I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS AND ALSO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE MAYOR REGARDING WHAT A HUGE ACHIEVEMENT THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. FOR EAST POINT TO RECEIVE THIS GOLD AWARD FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE OCCASIONS. SO, MR. MCCOY, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR BEING A MEMBER OF THE PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING EAST POINT. WELL, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET CLEAN WATER AND THAT IF WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THOSE, THAT YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT IS SWIFT AND EFFICIENT. IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT THREE GOLD AWARDS SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT PLATINUM BRAGGING RIGHTS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER MIKE ROGERS. THANK YOU. AND I MEAN, I'M GOING TO ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS AS THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DIRECTOR ECHEVARRIA. ECHEVARRIA I'M SO SORRY. AND YOUR STAFF, I MEAN, YOU'VE DONE AMAZING WORK IN EAST POINT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS AWARD HOME TO US AGAIN. BUT JUST MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS YOU SAID, GOING THE EXTRA MILE BECAUSE WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR HELPING US TO HAVE NUMBER ONE, CLEAN, SAFE DRINKING WATER, BUT FOR ALSO PUTTING THE CITY OF EAST POINT ON THE MAP. SO THANK YOU. AND I COULD MENTION, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE GRANTS AND THE THE FUNDING, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THIS CITY, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED AS FAR AS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE STAFF ARE DOING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER FRIEDSON.

COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, WAS THIS ONE DOWN? OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AS WELL ON AN AN AWARD THAT'S WELL DESERVED. YOU KNOW, I MEAN WHEN YOU WORK IN THINGS LIKE WATER IN A COUNTRY LIKE THE US, PEOPLE JUST TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED THAT WHEN YOU TURN THE WATER ON, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT AND IT'S GOING TO BE CLEAN. SO YOUR WORK IS NOT OFTEN RECOGNIZED FOR HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK. COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ECHEVARRIA, AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FOR FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE CITY. WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S NOT EASY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR EVERYTHING THAT THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME. FOR YOUR HARD WORK, YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND FOR YOUR TEAM. BECAUSE OF YOU, THE CITY IS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE MOVE. YOU'RE YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT IN HARD WORK. YOU'RE THE REASON WHY WE HAVE CLEAN DRINKING WATER, WHY WE HAVE THE BEST WATER, AND WHY OUR WATER IS AROUND THE WORLD.

THAT SAYS A LOT. AND TO HAVE THIS AWARD, IT'S IT'S MORE THAN JUST A LOT. AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO DEDICATE THEIR TIME AND THEIR EFFORTS TO MAKE IT WORK, THAT SAYS A LOT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY THAT YOU DO TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS CLEAN DRINKING WATER. AND IT IS SHARED ON DELTA. IT IS PART OF THIS AND IT'S JUST AMAZING OF ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO. AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL. AND I DO HAVE TO SAY THIS TO MISS CATHY. YOU STILL MAKING THOSE GOOD CAKES? THANK YOU. YEAH, I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS, BUT I'LL START WITH DIRECTOR ECHEVARRIA. YOUR

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HOPEFULLY THE CITY MANAGER WILL COME DOWN AS WELL AND JOIN US. I SEE THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HERE AS WELL. WE MIGHT HAVE TO BORROW SOMEBODY TO TAKE A PICTURE. MADAM CITY CLERK. OH, WE CAN DO THAT.

[XI.2. The Teachers Closet]

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SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. AS A FUNDRAISER, WE HOSTING A FASHION SHOW THIS COMING SUNDAY,

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IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. NO OTHER COMMENTS. I'LL MAKE SOME. AND THEN. ALRIGHT, IF YOU COULD JUST TELL US YOUR LOCATION, YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION AND HOURS OF OPERATION, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND YOUR WEBSITE, TELEPHONE NUMBER, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. SO WE'LL LOCATED OUR ADDRESSES 1526 EAST FOREST AVENUE. AND OUR HOURS ARE WE OPEN AT 10 TO 2. AND WE'RE HERE DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS AT 22. BUT IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN TEACHERS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK FROM THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS BECAUSE WE FIND THAT TEACHERS DO NOT HAVE THE TIME ON A WEEKDAY TO COME. SHOPPING SATURDAYS ARE OUR BUSIEST DAYS, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBERED. YES, MRS. ROGERS, THAT IT WAS SO CROWDED THIS PAST SATURDAY. IT'S JUST CRAZY. AND IT'S THE LINE FOR TEACHERS COMING TO SHOP IS JUST INCREDIBLE. IT JUST SHOWS YOU THE NEED THAT IS NEEDED AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AMAZING TO SEE. AND IT'S NOT. THE CENTER WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS JUST NOT. TEACHERS ARE JUST NOT COMING TO SHOP. YOU CAN SEE THE INTERACTION AND JUST THE WAY THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WALK INTO THE THEY WALK INTO THE SHOP AND THEY COME IN ALL SHY AND THEY JUST WONDERING WHAT TO DO NEXT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HELP THEM OUT AND WE GIVE THEM THE CLOTHING AND WE ASK THEM TO TRY IT ON AND JUST TO SEE THE EXPRESSION ON THEIR FACES WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THE DRESSING ROOM. I MEAN, THEY WERE DANCING WITH THAT LITTLE SHY DANCE THAT YOU DO WHEN NO ONE'S WATCHING US. YOU KNOW, MY FRIEND JULIA SAYS, IT'S JUST TRULY INCREDIBLE AND IT'S JUST A GREAT FEELING. YEAH. HOW MANY ITEMS DO TEACHERS RECEIVE WHEN THEY COME? TEACHERS GET TO RECEIVE A COMPLETE THREE COMPLETE OUTFITS. AND I MEAN LIKE A COMPLETE OUTFIT ONCE A MONTH. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO COME ONCE A MONTH AND GET THE, YOU KNOW, THE OUTFITS FOR THE CLASSROOM. AND DURING THE TIME THAT THEY ARE THERE, WE GET TO WE GET TO INTERVIEW THEM. YOU KNOW, I WOULD CALL THEM OUT JUST TO GET A FEEL OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ENVIRONMENT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE WHOLE SPACE. AND THEN JUST THE COMMENTS THAT WE GET IS JUST SO FASCINATING. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM HAVE SAID THE OUTFITS HAVE JUST HELPED THE CONFIDENCE IN THE CLASSROOM. AND AND YOU GET YOU HEAR ALL KINDS OF STORIES THAT PEOPLE JUST CANNOT AFFORD THE OUTFITS, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE ASKING TEACHERS TO DRESS A LITTLE MORE PROFESSIONAL IN THE CLASSROOM, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, TEACHERS ARE NOT GETTING PAID THAT MUCH, AND MOST TIMES THEY SPEND MONEY OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS TO BUY SCHOOL EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES, SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR THEIR CLASSROOMS. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEIR BUDGET IS JUST VERY SLIM. AND THE TEACHER'S CLOSET IS JUST HERE TO EASE THE BURDEN OFF THEM A BIT. MOVING FORWARD. WE WANT TO TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN OFFER EVEN A LITTLE MORE TO TEACHERS. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM SCHOOL SUPPLIES, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WILL TAKE TIME AND WITH EVERYONE'S SUPPORT, I THINK WE CAN GET THERE. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CHOOSING EASTPOINTE FOR THE TEACHERS CLOSET. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IN AT THIS TIME. TONIGHT. WHEN WE SAW EACH OTHER, MISS IRMA REMINDED ME THAT SHE WAS HIS AFTER SCHOOL TEACHER. WHEN SHE WAS AT WHAT WOULD I THINK WHEN SHE WAS IN SECOND GRADE? THIRD GRADE? YEAH, HE IS NOW IN THE 10TH GRADE AND I WISH HOPE YOUR FUNDRAISER EXCEEDS EXPECTATIONS AND THAT IT DOES REALLY WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT BECAUSE SHE GOT INVITED. NIA GOT INVITED TO A SOFTBALL CAMP AT MISSISSIPPI STATE. YEAH, SO WE WILL BE THERE THIS WEEKEND. BUT I PRAY THAT YOUR EVENT EXCEEDS EXPECTATION. I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING TO BRIDGE A GAP. RIGHT. SO THIS IS A GAP THAT YOU REALIZE EXISTED. AND YOU'RE MEETING THAT NEED AND BRIDGING THAT GAP FOR TEACHERS.

AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR SERVICE, YOUR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO OUR EDUCATORS.

THANK YOU. AND I, I MEAN, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE JUST YOUR STAFF MAKING IT SO EASY FOR US TO BE HERE. I MEAN, THE APPLICATION PROCESS WAS JUST SO SMOOTH AND THE STAFF WAS SO HELPFUL. SOMEONE CAME BACK FROM THE THE DESK AND CAME OUT AND JUST HELPED ME THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. IT WAS JUST AMAZING. SO THANK YOU GUYS. I MEAN, IT'S A REFLECTION OF ALL OF YOU. SO THANK YOU. YEAH, YEAH. HAVE A GOOD ONE. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. DO WE HAVE ANY

[XII. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

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YES. VERY BRIEFLY THE HR COMMITTEE DID MEET ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 6:08 P.M. COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS FREELY. CUMMINGS, MYSELF HR DIRECTOR IN THERE WAS A STAND IN FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. I CAN'T GET IN. JONNA. SHANIA. WE HAVE COMPLETED ALL OF THE DIRECT REPORTS EVALUATION INSTRUMENTS. THAT MEANS FOR THE CITY MANAGER, THE CLERK, THE JUDGE. WE DID WORK ON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INSTRUMENT, BUT ALL INSTRUMENTS ARE COMPLETE AND FINALIZED AND READY TO BE RECOMMENDED. THE COUNCIL, THEY ARE READY TO BE. THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL BE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL WOULD BE THE CITY ATTORNEY. THE CITY ATTORNEY RECOMMENDATION FORM WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL. WE ALSO DISCUSSED A TRACKING MECHANISM AND ALSO POSSIBLE EVALUATION DATES. THE MEETING ENDED AT 7:04 P.M. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A BUDGET FINANCE MEETING SINCE SEPTEMBER DUE TO A LACK OF QUORUM, AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT COMING IN DECEMBER, WE WILL HAVE QUORUM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THIS NIGHT. TONIGHT. NEXT UP ARE AGENDA

[XIV.3. Facade Grant Update]

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IT WAS AWARDED. THIS PARTICULAR AWARDEE WAS SENT A AWARD LETTER. THE FUNDS GENERATED FOR THIS, THIS PROGRAM STARTED OUT OUT OF ARPA DOLLARS. THE ARPA DOLLARS HAS BEEN EXPENDED AND THE AWARD LETTER HAD ALREADY WENT OUT. AND SO GENERAL FUND WOULD BE NEEDED TO BASICALLY MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT MONIES THAT WE HAD LEFT OVER FROM ARPA AND OBSERVING THE AWARD THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO THE AWARD HAS BEEN APPROVED. THERE'S BEEN NO RESCINDING OF THE LETTER ORDER AWARD. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND AS THOSE AWARDS WERE COMING FORWARD FOR COUNCIL FOR THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE, IT WAS THEN BROUGHT UP THAT, HEY, HOW DOES THIS HOW DO WE DO THIS? THIS MIGHT BE AN ISSUE WITH THE GRATUITY CLAUSE.

AND THAT'S WHAT GENERATED RESEARCH INTO HOW TO MAKE THE PROGRAM CONTINUE TO WORK. IT SHOULD ALSO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE BUDGET ALSO APPROVED THE PROGRAM TO CONTINUE IN, IN, IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WOULD ALL BE GENERAL FUND. SO THE PROCESS OF WHAT HOW WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK IS GOING TO BE A PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF BE A TEST ITEM FOR A WIDER PROJECT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CONTINUING TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT OR THIS PROGRAM, I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GIVE SOME CLARITY ON THIS WHOLE SITUATION, BECAUSE IN THE EMAIL, YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD SOMETHING ABOUT REIMBURSED THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE FUNDING. SO I'M GOING TO LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GIVE US SOME CLARITY. WELL GOOD EVENING. I DIDN'T MENTION ANY REIMBURSEMENT. MAYBE THAT IN IN THE EMAIL INITIATED, THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT REIMBURSED THE GENERAL FUND. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE EMAIL THAT MR. JONES SENT OUT. CERTAINLY THE ONLY THING I SENT OUT, I SENT A RESPONSE TO THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT, I BELIEVE, BY COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS. I RESPONDED THAT TO THAT TODAY AT ABOUT 1011 WITH JUST MY OPINION, BASED ON THE EMAIL THREAD THAT I WAS COPIED ON, AND IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT THERE WERE FOUR STEPS THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OUTLINED FOR GETTING THIS GRANT FUNDING TO THE RECIPIENT. I INCLUDED A SECTION FROM THE CHARTER THAT TALKS ABOUT TRANSFER OF FUNDS IF IT WAS COMING, IF HIS EMAIL INTENDED FOR THE MONEY TO COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND GO TO BIDA, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TRANSFER THAT IS GOVERNED BY SECTION 5-103D, AS OPPOSED TO A PROCUREMENT MATTER. IF IT WAS COMING FROM BIDEN'S BUDGET THAT THEY ALREADY HAD, THEN I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OPINIONS AS TO THE STEPS THAT HE OUTLINED, BUT CERTAINLY IF IT'S COMING FROM THE CITY, IT'S NOT A PURCHASE OF GOODS AND SERVICES WHICH WOULD TRIGGER PROCUREMENT, BUT IT WOULD TRIGGER THE TRANSFER.

NOT WITHIN A LINE ITEM OR NOT WITHIN A A PARTICULAR BUDGET AND LINE ITEM. IT WOULD BE A TRANSFER OUT OF ONE POT TO BUY THIS POT, WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE THE TRANSFER PROCEDURE,

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AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. I KNOW THAT I'M HOPING THAT THAT WASN'T THE INTENT.

AND SO THE OTHER CONCERN IS, IS THIS THE BUSINESS THAT WAS ON THE 50 WORST LIST? AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT FUNDING THAT AWARD? IS THIS THAT BUSINESS? NO IT ISN'T. SO WHERE DID THIS BUSINESS COME FROM? THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT RECEIVED THE AWARD. THAT WAS AT ONE TIME TOLD THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO GET AN AWARD BECAUSE NON-PROFITS WEREN'T IDENTIFIED IN THE INITIAL. AND ONE OF THE INITIAL ELIGIBILITIES THIS WAS FOUND OUT AFTER AN AWARD LETTER HAD WENT OUT AND THE COUNCIL HAD BEEN BRIEFED ON THAT. SO THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO WAS THE CONCERN WAS RAISED BY COUNCIL ABOUT FUNDING. NON-PROFITS WOULD SUGGEST THERE WASN'T AN AGREEMENT BY THIS BODY AROUND THAT. AND NOW THE CITY MANAGER IS DECIDING THAT TO GIVE THAT ENTITY FUNDING, THE CITY MANAGER WILL SEND $20,000 OF GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BUY THE WITHOUT A MOU, WITHOUT ANY AGREEMENT OR ACTION BY THIS COUNCIL ON SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT AND THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT ACTUALLY DOING THAT. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? NO. THE CONCERN WAS THAT WE WEREN'T OBSERVING OUR LETTER OF AWARD AND THAT THE THAT THIS ORGANIZATION WAS DESERVING OF THE, OF THE AWARD GRANT, AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT WAS ON 50 WORDS? BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THERE BEING TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, TOTALLY. NOT EVEN IN THE SAME LOCATIONS. SO THERE WERE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT APPLIED FOR THE FACADE GRANT THAT WERE DENIED AND DIDN'T GET ANYTHING. THERE'S THIS BUSINESS THAT APPLIED, A LETTER SENT OUT, AND THERE WAS THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS WAS HANDLED, BUT A LETTER WAS SENT TO THEM GIVING AN AWARD WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THIS COUNCIL. AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEIR NONPROFIT. SO HOW ARE WE NOW FUNDING SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T GET APPROVED BY COUNCIL? THIS IS NOT OUR THESE AREN'T APPROVED BY COUNCIL, MR. JONES, I'M TALKING. OKAY. SORRY. YOU'RE GETTING THESE ARE NOT ARPA FUNDS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GENERAL FUNDS. WE HAD A $600,000 FACADE GRANT WITH AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND EVALUATION PROCESS AND ALL THE THINGS. WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM, AND HOW ARE WE NOW DECIDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS OUTSIDE OF THE APPROVED FACADE

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YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW YOU TO HELP YOU RECALL THE APPROPRIATE ALLOWING YOU TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW SO YOU CAN DECONFLICT THE ISSUES. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME. YOU CAN DECONFLICT THE ISSUES AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS I DON'T NEED HELP. YOU CAN GO AHEAD. WE CAN ISSUE THE THE ISSUE OF THE BUSINESS THAT WAS ON THE 50 WORST HAD BEEN COME, CAME INTO COMPLIANCE AND WAS DOWNTOWN. EAST POINT INVOLVED THE CHURCH PROPERTY WHERE A JUDGMENT FROM THE COURTS HAD WAIVED SOME FEES, BUT DIDN'T WAIVE SOME OF THE 50 WORST PROPERTIES. THE PROPERTY, THE THE AWARDEE IN THE IN THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW WAS AWARDED THE AWARD BY COUNCIL. COUNCIL APPROVED THAT AWARD. THAT AWARD WENT OUT LETTING THE AWARDEE KNOW THAT THEY HAD WON THE AWARD. THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. NOW THOSE ITEMS, ON THEIR FINAL APPROVAL HAD TO COME THROUGH AND GET SIGNATURES. AND THEN YOU HAD ASKED IN YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AS MAYOR, THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE THOSE ACTUAL ITEMS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME TIME LAPSE THAT HAD HAPPENED SINCE THE INITIAL AWARD AND THE THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WERE BEING DONE AND WHAT THE WORK WAS GOING TO BE. YOU WANTED TO SEE THOSE THINGS, THOSE GENERATED COMING BACK THROUGH CONTRACT WORKS SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THOSE THINGS. THAT PROCESS HAD WENT THROUGH. AND AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHERE THE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PROJECT WASN'T GOING TO BE COVERED UNDER ARPA, BECAUSE ARPA DOLLARS HAD ALREADY BEEN SPENT BY THE TIME THAT HAD WENT THROUGH THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER OF APPROVAL AT THAT TIME. THAT'S WHERE MY RESPONSE, WHICH WAS EMAIL SAYING A GENERAL OUTLINE, CERTAINLY A MOU, COULD BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. CERTAINLY ANYTHING THAT BIDEN WOULD ASK TO HAVE ONCE THEY APPROVED, IT COULD BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE IDEA IS CLEARLY LAID OUT ON THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE ON HOW TO GET THIS AWARD.

HE PROJECT, WHICH WAS, I THINK IT WAS $20,000, GET THAT PROJECT AWARDED OUT. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT WE APPROVED THE CONTINUATION OF THE FACADE GRANT PROGRAM AFTER ARPA DOLLARS ARE GOING WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL GONE. WE DID THAT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AS A PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. THAT BUDGET PROCESS WILL HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT ARPA DOLLARS. IT WOULD BE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. SO THE PROCESS ON WHATEVER WE DO FOR THIS ONE PROJECT TO HAVE TO BE THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE'LL NEED TO PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.

SO WHATEVER PROCESS MOU WAS, ANY OTHER DUE DILIGENCE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM ANY PARTNER THAT WE PARTNER WITH, WHATEVER THAT PROCESS IS, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T DONE IT UP UNTIL THIS POINT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD TO WORK THE PROGRAM WITHOUT ARPA DOLLARS. SO NOW THAT WE ARE, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW THE MECHANICS OF THAT WILL WORK. EMAIL DATED NOVEMBER 16TH. DIRECTION ON FACADE GRANT

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USING A NONPROFIT INTERMEDIARY LIKE VIDA TO ADMINISTER THE GRANT WITH CITY FUNDING, COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW AND AVOIDS CONCERNS RELATED TO A GRATUITIES CLAUSE IN THE GEORGIA CONSTITUTION. ARTICLE THREE, SECTION SIX, PARAGRAPH SIX, NUMBER THREE AWARDEE COMMUNICATION MACEIO. PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE MARIOS ART ACADEMY TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY AND UPDATE THEM ON THE NEXT STEPS. NUMBER FOUR COUNCIL UPDATE SHOULD THE BOARD APPROVES THE AWARD, I PLAN TO AUTHORIZE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THIS APPROACH MAINTAINS COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW WHILE ENSURING THE GRANT PROGRAM MOVES FORWARD EFFICIENTLY. THE AMOUNT IS ALSO WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S PROCUREMENT AUTHORITY AND WOULD NOT NEED ADDITIONAL COUNCIL APPROVAL. FOR TRANSPARENCY REASONS. I HAVE COPIED THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, SO PLEASE OBSERVE APPROPRIATE OPEN MEETING PROVISIONS AND LIMIT TWO WAY COMMUNICATIONS. THANK YOU FOR ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND SUPPORT. YOUR EMAIL INDICATES THERE'S NO FURTHER ADDITIONAL CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL NEEDED TO SUGGEST THAT WE COULD DO AN MOU. WE COULD DO THIS. AND THE THIRD IS COUNTER TO WHAT YOU PUT IN WRITING, BECAUSE AN MOU HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CONFLATING ISSUES. THAT QUESTION I ASKED IS STILL NOT REALLY BEING ANSWERED BECAUSE THE PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED WAS A OPERA FUNDED PROGRAM. IF A FACADE GRANT PROGRAM IS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, THAT MEANS THAT'S A WHOLE NEW PROGRAM, A WHOLE NEW PROCESS, AND RULES AND PROCEDURES HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED SO THAT IT CAN BE OPEN TO EVERYONE TO APPLY TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AND THE EMAIL THAT YOU SENT SUGGESTS THAT WE CAN GO TO BIDA WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COUNCIL ACTION OR APPROVAL, AND TRANSFER $20,000 FOR A GRANT TO THIS BUSINESS WITHOUT ANY ACTION. SO THAT'S WITHOUT A MOU, THAT'S WITHOUT A RESOLUTION, THAT'S WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE, THAT'S WITHOUT ANYTHING IN THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THIS EMAIL HAS INDICATED THAT IF THE MONEY IS GOING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO BIDA, THAT WOULD BE A TRANSFER UNDER SECTION 5-103D IN THE CITY CHARTER, WHICH DOES REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION. SO NOW THERE I THINK OTHERS HAVE CHIMED IN. I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, I JUST DON'T WANT TO RUN THE RISK OF SAYING TOO MUCH. I REMEMBER THIS INSTANCE. THIS ISSUE WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT WAS TIED TO ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES REAL ESTATE PERSONNEL OR LEGAL.

SO THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO RISK SAYING TOO MUCH. IT IS MY RECOLLECTION THAT WE LEFT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION SAYING BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE GOOD ON THE LETTER THAT HAD BEEN SENT TO THE ORGANIZATION. SO I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL BECAUSE IT WASN'T EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION. SO I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT THIS AND BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SHARING. SECTION FIVE. SECTION 5-103D. IT WOULD REQUIRE IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A STEP WHERE THE COUNCIL WOULD BE INVOLVED. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT IS CORRECT BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE MOVING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO BIDA. IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BIDA DOING IT, BUT

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BUT YES, I UNDERSTAND IF IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU REMEMBER OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION.

SO IS IT MOST APPROPRIATE FOR US TO THEN TAKE ACTION ON THIS BY ORDINANCE AFTER THE BIDA BOARD HAS MET AND HAS AGREED THAT THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS? I THINK THAT'S BACKWARDS. I THINK THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE THE ACTION BY THIS BODY TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS AND SOME AGREEMENT MOU, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT REQUIRES THEM TO SPEND THE FUNDS ON THIS, BECAUSE IF YOU JUST SEND THEM $20,000, THEY MAY SPEND IT ON SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT? AND SO IF THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THIS BODY, WAS TO GIVE THEM THE MONEY FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONDITION ON THEM GETTING IT RIGHT. AND THE REASON THAT I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT IN TERMS OF SORT OF THE CHRONOLOGY, WHAT ORDER WE SHOULD GO IS IF WE TOOK ACTION TONIGHT AND PASSED AN ORDINANCE FOR THAT. BUT AT BIDEN'S MEETING, THEY DECIDE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. THEN WHAT? THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT BIDEN WILL BE THAT PARTNER. SO IF BIDEN THEN MAKES THE DECISION THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT, THEN PERHAPS WE LOOK AT ANOTHER ENTITY, DDA OR ANOTHER ENTITY THAT'S A PART OF THE CITY. SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT I WAS ASKING IF IT WOULD BE BEST FOR US TO HAVE IT ON THE BIDEN AGENDA, AND BIDEN MAKES A DECISION, AND IF THEY DO MAKE THE DECISION, THEN WE THEN SOLIDIFY THAT WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT THEN WOULD ALLOW THE FUNDS TO GO THERE FOR THE PURPOSES OF FULFILLING THIS GRANT PROPOSAL. TWO THINGS COULD BE TRUE, THOUGH, RIGHT? BIDEN COULD MAKE THE DECISION TO BE A PARTNER, BUT THIS BOARD MAY NOT APPROVE SENDING IT. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS THE DDA WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IF THIS BUSINESS WAS A NONPROFIT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR BOUNDARIES. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE RESPONSES AND THE CLARIFICATION I YIELD COUNCILMEMBER VISION. YES. AND JUST FOR CLARITY, I THINK THAT THE REASON WHY IT'S COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND IS BECAUSE WE THIS THIS ORGANIZATION IS NOT ELIGIBLE, PER THE THE RULES OUTLINED. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE GOOD AND WE WANTED TO KEEP THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS BUSINESS. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT FROM THE ARPA FUNDS, FROM THE FACADE GRANT. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. AGAIN, IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND SO AT SOME POINT, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THIS SETTING. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. JUST TO BE CLEAR, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S COMING OUT THE GENERAL FUND, IT STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND THAT IS THE KEY PART. THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO DO IT WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THIS BODY. AND SO NONE OF MY STATEMENTS DEALT WITH EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSIONS. I READ AN EMAIL THAT THE CITY MANAGER SENT TO US, WHICH IS OPEN RECORDS. THAT EMAIL DIDN'T DISCLOSE ANYTHING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS BY WHICH THE CITY MANAGER ASSUMED HE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO SEND $20,000 TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL, AND SO BRINGING UP EXECUTIVE SESSION. THIS IS NOT WHERE WE DISCUSS EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT'S CONFIDENTIAL. THAT WASN'T WHAT I DISCUSSED. WHAT I DISCUSSED IS COUNCIL'S INVOLVEMENT, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. THE NOTION OR TO TO HAVE A NOTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN SEND TENS OF

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WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE US TONIGHT, WHICH WOULD MEAN I DON'T THINK WE COULD TAKE ACTION TONIGHT ON IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEFORE US TO BE ABLE TO READ, PROCESS AND VET FOR A GENERAL FUND FUNDED FACADE GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE CITY. SO THE QUESTION IS, CITY ATTORNEY, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE FOR COUNCIL TO REVIEW AT THE DECEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION, OR DOES IT NEED MORE TIME AND IT GOES TO THE JANUARY WORK SESSION LIKE. WHEN, WHEN CAN IF THAT IS THE DESIRED COUNCIL, IT SOUNDS LIKE. NOT SURE WHO THIS ORGANIZATION IS AGAIN, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE A GENERAL FUND FUNDED FACADE GRANT PROGRAM BY ORDINANCE. WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN? I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF OPERATION SIDE AS WELL. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A PROGRAM, I WOULD NOT HAVE THAT. IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS EAST POINT CITY COUNCIL IS TRANSFERRING $20,000 TO BIDDER, THAT'S I CAN DRAFT THAT QUICKLY, BUT A PROGRAM FOR A FACADE GRANTS THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL FUND A, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY. AND B, NO, I CANNOT HAVE THAT BY THE EIGHTH. SO THANKS FOR THAT. CLARIFICATION OF ANY PROGRAM HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED BY STAFF FOR LEGAL REVIEW OR CONVERSATION ON. AND SO IF YOU THINK THIS CAN BE DONE BY AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THE CITY IS GOING TO SEND $20,000 TO EITHER DDA OR TO WHICHEVER HAS THE JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THAT COULD BE PLACED ON THE DECEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION AGENDA, OR DO WE NEED MORE TIME? SO LET ME LET ME REVERSE WHAT I SAID EARLIER. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT AND I HEARD FROM YOU GUYS ABOUT A MOU OR THE ABSENCE OF ONE. IF, IF THIS COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE TO GIVE $20,000 TO BIDA AND TOLD THEM TO SPEND IT. TO PAY FOR THE FACADE GRANT FOR

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THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH GIVING BY THE MONEY, RIGHT? BUT THEY THEN NEED TO COME UP WITH THE PROGRAM. THEY THEN NEED TO COME UP WITH HOW THEY WILL EXPAND THIS TRANSFER OF MONEY FROM THE CITY. COUNCIL. MEMBER. ATKINSON. COUNCILMEMBER. COMBS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I KNOW THAT YOUR COMMENTS SAID THAT BRINGING UP EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS IRRELEVANT FOR ME. THE REASON THAT I SAID IT BECAUSE IT WAS VERY RELEVANT.

THAT'S WHY I DIRECTED MY QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID NOT SPEAK, BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER CLEMONS. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSFER AND POTENTIALLY THE $20,000. THAT'S A TOTAL AWARD AMOUNT TO $20,000. CORRECT. BUT THEY THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIRST 25. SO IS IT ACTUALLY 15 AS OPPOSED TO THE 20,000 THAT'S WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR WITH THE WITH THE NUMBERS. I HAVE NOT 100% SURE. I KNOW IT WASN'T MORE THAN $20,000. THIS THIS ITEM I WAS JUST MADE OF AWARE OF TODAY. SO STAFF HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY PREPARE EXACTLY WHAT THIS ITEM WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO. SO AGAIN, THIS JUST GOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY. SO I'M NOT PREPARED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT WAS, BUT I KNOW IT WASN'T OVER 20,000. THAT'S MY MEMORY SERVES ME. IT MAY HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN LESS THAN THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE THE EMAIL THAT THE MAYOR WAS READING. SO THIS PARTICULAR RECIPIENT WAS IT WAS FOR 20,000.

AND IF IT'S FOR THE 20,000, THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIRST 25, WHICH IS FIVE. SO IF THE FUNDS BY THE AGREED, WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO PAY IT. IF BIDEN AGREED TO GIVE THAT MONEY TO THE RECIPIENT, THE MONEY THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE $15,000 AND NOT 20. CORRECT. IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $20,000 FOR THEM BEING AWARDED, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT I THINK THAT I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THAT I THINK I MENTIONED REIMBURSEMENT. SO THE INITIAL THE INITIAL PAYMENT OR AWARD WOULD BE BURIED BY BIDA. SO I DON'T KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT EMAIL IN FRONT OF ME. BUT IF I JUST RECALL WHAT WAS JUST READ, I THINK IT WAS A REIMBURSEMENT. THANK YOU, I YIELD.

COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER, THANK YOU. SO OKAY, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO TRANSFER THE MONEY TO BIDA, BUT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE BIDA MAY HAVE TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN PROGRAM, I GUESS, TO TRY AND SPEND THE MONEY. BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS ALTERNATIVE? I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO EXPEND UP TO $25,000 ANYWAY AT YOUR DISCRETION. SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T JUST PUT THIS BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN AS A VENDOR OR SOMETHING. WE JUST PAY THEM. I MEAN, IS IT REALLY JUST THAT SIMPLE? I ASSUME YOU'RE ASKING THAT OF LEGAL. SURE. NO, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE A GRATUITY. OH, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD. OKAY. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE CONFLICT? BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO. BECAUSE WITH THE GRATUITY, I ASSUME THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF A CONFLICT, BUT THIS IS TO RIGHT A WRONG BECAUSE THEY WERE ORIGINALLY TOLD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE AWARDED. AND THEN WE TOOK IT AWAY FROM THEM, AND NOW WE'RE LIKE, OH, WAIT, WE

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LIKE WHAT'S THE CONCERN THAT IT'S SO TWO THINGS. ONE IS THAT IF THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO RIGHT A WRONG RIGHT. BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THIS BUSINESS, THIS NONPROFIT WASN'T ELIGIBLE.

THERE WAS A WHOLE LONG CONVERSATION WITH MISTER ROGERS BECAUSE HE SENT OUT THE LETTER MISTAKENLY, IS WHAT I RECALL. THE CONVERSATION BEING. AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE SENT IT OUT AND SHOULDN'T HAVE SENT IT OUT. AND THEY WEREN'T ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY WERE NONPROFIT.

THEY WEREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR THE FACADE PROGRAM THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED. OKAY. SO IF THEY GOT THE LETTER, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEY ARE RELIANT, I IMAGINE, ON GETTING THE GRANT, IF THIS COUNCIL IS SAYING WE WANT TO RIGHT THIS WRONG AND GIVE THEM THE MONEY ANYWAY, THAT'S A VOTE YOU GUYS CAN MAKE ALL DAY, RIGHT? MY ONLY THING IS THAT BY PAYING THEM OUT JUST STRAIGHT, LIKE YOU SAID, OUT STRAIGHT OUT THE GENERAL FUND, THE DECISION TO JUST PAY THEM, NOT ARPA FUNDS. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT THAT WAS DIFFERENT, BUT JUST TO PAY THEM OUT, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD TOUCH ON THE GRATUITY CLAUSE. YOU JUST MAY BE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK, WHICH IS FINE. THAT'S THAT'S THIS COUNCIL'S DECISION IF YOU WANT TO RIGHT THE WRONG, AS YOU SAID, OF THEM GETTING THE LETTER MISTAKENLY AND OR THE OTHER OPTION IS PROCEEDING WITH GIVING IT TO BIDA TO GIVE IT TO THEM TO TRY TO SKIRT THE GRATUITY. I DON'T THINK IT REALLY SKIRTS IT. I JUST I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT SOLVES YOUR ISSUE. IT JUST GOES AROUND IT ANOTHER WAY BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'RE GIVING MONEY TO ANOTHER ENTITY FOR THEM TO DO WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. YOU COULD DO THAT TO THAT. AGAIN, THAT MAY BE WHAT THIS COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO DO. I DON'T MAKE THE DECISIONS. I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF THE DECISIONS YOU DO MAKE. SO IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THIS BOARD, ALL I'M SAYING IS YOU'VE GOT TO TO TRANSFER MONEY OUT, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. BUT TO TRANSFER MONEY FROM THIS POT TO THIS POT REQUIRES AN ORDINANCE. OKAY. SO CAN WE MAYBE BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE GRATUITY CLAUSE ITSELF AND WHAT IT IS AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH? WHAT WHAT WAS THE LAST PART? WHAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH, WHAT WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT BREAKING THE LAW IN THIS INSTANCE OR YOU JUST WANT GENERAL JUST IN GENERAL, JUST IN GENERAL GRATUITY CLAUSE. SO THE GRATUITY CLAUSE BASICALLY SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT GIVE AWAY CITY PROPERTY, MONEY, RESOURCES, IN-KIND, ANYTHING THAT'S OWNED BY THE TAXPAYERS WITHOUT THERE BEING SOME IDENTIFIED RECIPROCAL BENEFIT BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS. SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU CANNOT GIVE LIKE I'LL TAKE FOR INSTANCE, WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE TEACHERS CLOSET. RIGHT. SHE MADE AN APPEAL TO THE CITY TO HAVE A DONATION TO HER AMAZING ORGANIZATION. BUT IF YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE ASKED, AND I KNOW IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION, WE COULD NOT GIVE HER MONEY, RIGHT? THE CITY COULD NOT GIVE HER MONEY WITHOUT THERE BEING A VIOLATION OF THE GRATUITY CLAUSE, BECAUSE THE RECIPROCAL BENEFIT IS NOT NECESSARILY THERE FOR EASTPOINTE TAXPAYERS. RIGHT.

THE TEACHERS THAT BENEFIT FROM HER ORGANIZATION, THEY MAY NOT LIVE IN EASTPOINTE. SO YOU YOU CANNOT IDENTIFY THE RECIPROCAL BENEFIT TO THE TAXPAYERS. HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE IT DOES WORK. THERE WAS A CASE DOWN, I THINK, IN TYBEE ISLAND, WHERE THERE WERE SOME LIFEGUARDS THAT WERE. USED FOR SOME EVENT OR SOMETHING, AND THE LIFEGUARDS WERE CITY EMPLOYEES, AND THERE WAS A CLAIM BROUGHT AGAINST THE CITY THAT WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW THESE PRIVATE PEOPLE, WHOEVER HAD THEIR EVENT, TO USE CITY LIFEGUARDS FOR FREE. THE COURT CAME DOWN AND SAID THAT NO, THE RECIPROCAL BENEFIT IS THAT EVENT WAS OPEN TO TYBEE ISLAND RESIDENTS AND THE LIFEGUARDS WERE THERE TO POTENTIALLY SAVE LIVES. IT WAS OKAY THEN BECAUSE THERE WAS AN IDENTIFIED BENEFIT BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY. OKAY. AND I, I MEAN, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS WHOLE FACADE GRANT IS BENEFITING RESIDENTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE ARE BEAUTIFYING THESE BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY SO IT'S MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO

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THAT'S THE EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THE APPROVAL PROCESS. AND SO.

COUNCIL NEVER DECIDED TO AWARD THIS GRANT TO THIS BUSINESS. STAFF SENT THE LETTER AND WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW PROBLEMATIC IT WAS FOR STAFF TO SEND OUT ALL OF THOSE AWARD LETTERS COMMITTING THIS CITY FULL FAITH AND CREDIT TO PAY THOSE AWARDS WITHOUT COUNCIL BEING MADE AWARE. BY THE TIME IT CAME TO US, IT WAS, I THINK, AT LEAST A MONTH, IF NOT MORE, AFTER THE LETTERS HAD GONE OUT. MAYBE IT WAS ONLY TWO WEEKS. I KNOW IT WAS AFTER, AND THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS BEFORE COUNCIL FINALLY APPROVED THE AWARD AMOUNTS, BECAUSE THERE ALSO WAS THE INITIAL CONTRACT THAT SAID WE'RE GIVING YOU MONEY. IT HAD NOTHING. IT DID NOT CONTAIN ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE MONEY, WHICH WAS A CONCERN THAT I RAISED. AND SO THE CONTRACTS WERE AMENDED OR THE THE FORM TEMPLATE WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THAT, BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE AND NOT KNOW WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO. SO ONCE ALL OF THAT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND COUNCIL APPROVED IT, THEN I STARTED SIGNING THE CONTRACTS BECAUSE I WAS NOT WILLING TO MAKE THOSE ASSIGN THOSE CONTRACTS WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL. SO LET'S BE CLEAR, THIS AWARD HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED. I DON'T THINK IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE FINAL LIST BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE CONCERN AROUND ELIGIBILITY, I'LL JUST SAY. AND SO IF IT WAS NOT A PART OF THAT LIST THAT ACTUALLY WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AFTER ALL THE LETTERS WENT OUT, THIS COUNCIL HASN'T APPROVED THIS. NOW, MOVING FORWARD, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DECIDE THAT IT HAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF THE GRATUITIES CLAUSE AND WANTS TO DO THIS AND OUTLAY THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR IT, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS EXPLAINED TO US THAT IT REQUIRES AN ORDINANCE.

MY QUESTION EARLIER WAS WHEN DO WE WANT THIS ORDINANCE TO COME BACK? IS IT THE DECEMBER 8TH WORK SESSION? IS IT THE DECEMBER 15TH MEETING? IS IT THE JANUARY? WHAT'S THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY? I WON'T BE HERE JANUARY THE 5TH, JANUARY 12TH. I MEAN, WE HAVE FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH. THAT'S THE QUESTION AT THIS POINT, OR IF YOU ALL WANT TO DECIDE THAT LATER, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TO BELABOR THE HOUR AND DECIDE THAT TONIGHT, BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING BEFORE US TONIGHT

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SO IF THERE'S NO DESIRE TO DECIDE A DATE TONIGHT, THAT'S FINE. WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT COUNCIL ACTION IS REQUIRED AND THAT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED THAT IS NOT SOLELY GOVERNED OR DECIDED BY THE CITY MANAGER. SO COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. SO IF THERE'S NO DESIRE TO DECIDE WHEN IT COMES BACK TONIGHT, THAT'S FINE.

[XIV.4. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Senior Bingo]

COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. MICROPHONE. WE DID THIS BEFORE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER. IT IS WITH IF IT GOES THROUGH IT'S WE'RE STILL HAVING CONVERSATION WITH MARVIN ARRINGTON OFFICE. SO I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA JUST IN CASE THEY WANT TO UTILIZE THE JEFFERSON PARK FACILITY AGAIN FOR THE SENIOR BINGO. I STILL HAVEN'T PICKED A DATE. STILL IN TALK, BUT JUST PLACE IT ON HERE. I MEAN, IS THERE A MONTH THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DOING IT IN OR IT IS A MONTH? IT IT WILL BE. IF IT HAPPENS, IT WILL BE IN DECEMBER. SO DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE WORK SESSION IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE? THAT'S IT I THINK. THE POSSIBLE DATE WAS THE 13TH. WHICH WILL COME BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND IT WAS. AND ACTUALLY WE'VE HAD THIS ON WORK SESSION BEFORE. NO, I UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST SAYING FOR MORE INFORMATION, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, IF IT PASSES, SO BE IT. BUT IF THERE WAS A NEED FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU COULD PROVIDE IT ON MONDAY THE EIGHTH AND THEN THE 13TH IS WHAT THAT THURSDAY? SATURDAY. OH, THAT SATURDAY DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. WHO IS IT WITH AGAIN? CAN YOU GIVE US A REFRESHER? IT WOULD BE WITH COMMISSIONER MARVIN ARRINGTON.

AND THEY ARE JUST YOU ARE LOOKING TO UTILIZE THE JEFFERSON PARK REC CENTER FOR SENIOR BINGO? YES. OKAY. FOR DECEMBER 13TH, IF THAT'S THE DATE, WAS THE DATE HASN'T BEEN SET. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE AGAIN? I MEAN, WE CAN'T I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS IN FOR COMMENTS AND SO. IF YOU IF OH COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU. DO YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, DO YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A DATE FOR A DATE THAT HE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT FOR WORK SESSION AND WE COULD JUST SO WE'LL HAVE A DATE? YOU THINK THEY'LL HAVE IT LIKE KIND OF WORKED OUT THE LOGISTICS. SO IF WE HAVE IT AT WORK SESSION, WE CAN PROBABLY. IF IT'S THE 13TH, WE CAN PROBABLY VOTE FOR IT. YES. I JUST WONDER IF HE COULD IF YOU THINK ABOUT IN BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONDAY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A DATE. YEAH. AND I KNOW FOR SURE. OKAY. THAT'LL WORK IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. AND WE CAN INDICATE ON THE AGENDA IN PARENTHESES ACTION MAY BE TAKEN. YEAH I KNOW FOR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON THAT ONE PLACE ON THE DECEMBER 13TH WORK SESSION. ACTION MAY BE TAKEN. YES. DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY? ANYONE CAN. SHE GOT A DATE TO PUT IT ON THE WORK SESSION? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. NEXT ITEM ON NEW CITY PHONE NUMBERS. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION? SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS RIGHT AWAY BEHIND. JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. I GOT YOU THIS. BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE. OKAY, SO I'M SURE YOU GOT THE EMAILS THAT THE CITY PHONE NUMBERS CHANGED. AND I THINK WHEN THE CONTRACT OR

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ADDRESS. YOUR QUESTION CAN I ADDRESS MADAM PRO TEM PROVISIONAL IF IF IT'S OKAY OR MR. JONES WHOEVER, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONVERSATION TALKS ABOUT THE LIKE YOU SAID, THE TIMELINE OF ROLLING OUT THE NEW NUMBERS BUT THE HISTORY WE WOULD JUST NEED TO LIMIT. YEAH.

SO I CAN THAT'S FINE. I CAN ADDRESS TIMELINE. OUR TIMELINE IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE PHONES AND NEW NUMBERS INSTALLED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. OKAY. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 400 NEW PHONES.

WE HAVE 400 NEW PHONE NUMBERS. MY TEAM HAS BEEN GETTING THOSE PHONES, ADDING NEW NUMBERS. AND ACTUALLY WE JUST STARTED TODAY TO ROLL THE NUMBERS OUT TO CITY HALL. WE WANTED TO USE CITY HALL AS A MODEL IN CASE WE CAME ACROSS ANY PROBLEMS BEFORE WE WENT TO OTHER BUILDINGS. SO FAR THINGS ARE GOING VERY WELL. AND SO AGAIN, AS FAR AS TIMELINE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING ALL THE PHONES INSTALLED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, I'M GOING TO LET SID ROBINSON TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GAPS AND RISK THAT WE HAD TO EVALUATE AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE NEW PHONE NUMBERS. TO YOUR POINT, IT IS A BIG HIT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC WILL PROBABLY BE SURPRISED BY THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE A COMMUNICATION PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT. AND WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A A NOTICE ON OUR WEBSITE. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT ON OUR HOME PAGE, YOU'LL SEE INFORMATION

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DISTINGUISHED PANEL. THE COMMUNICATION PLAN WILL BE AS SUCH. WE HAVE ROLLED OUT THINGS TO AND WILL BE ROLLING OUT ADDITIONAL THINGS ON THE INTERNET. WE ARE ALSO ADDRESSING. I HEARD SOMEONE MENTION IT, MA'AM, I BELIEVE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OTHER AREAS AND WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE. I HAVE MET WITH MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO IMPACT BOTH THINGS, SUCH AS. BUILDINGS, SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND OTHER AREAS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE COMMUNICATE BOTH TO THE COMPANY, TO COMPANIES AND COMPANIES. INTERNALLY. WE ARE CHANGING THOSE AS WE MOVE THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO THOSE PIECES, AND WE ARE MITIGATING EACH OF THOSE RISKS. TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I BELIEVE THE OTHER QUESTION YOU SAID WAS A TIMELINE FOR THAT ROLLOUT. THAT TIMELINE WILL BE NOT SO MUCH FLEXIBLE, BUT WILL BE AS WE ROLL OUT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS WE ARE ENGAGING TO ALLOW FOR MORE THAN 1 TO 2 WEEKS FOR EACH OF THE ENTITIES TO BE OUT BEFORE WE SATURATE ANOTHER SECTION OF OF THE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM? NO. NOT REALLY. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER. WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAILS, HOW LONG WHEN DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT THESE NUMBERS WAS GOING TO CHANGE? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? OKAY. THANK AIN'T NO JESUS CHRIST YOU GOT RESIDENTS OUT HERE WHO RELY ON CALLING THE CITY. ALRIGHT. COME ON, Y'ALL, GIVE HIM A PASS. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HAS THE MAIN CITY NUMBER CHANGED? 44270 7000 AT THIS POINT? NO, MA'AM. SO THAT NUMBER IS STILL THE SAME.

IT WILL BE CHANGING. BUT YOU ASKED, HAS IT CHANGED? I SAID AT THIS POINT IT HAS NOT. WHEN WILL IT CHANGE? I WILL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY CHANGE. AS DON SAID, BY THE END OF THE MONTH. AND SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS TO REACH TO THE CITY. SO I'M ASSUMING IF THEY CALL THAT NUMBER NOW, IS IT TELLING THE NEW NUMBERS WE ARE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH BOTH THE WHAT'S THE PIECE CALLED. I YOU SEE I SEE YOU, I SEE YOU, I SEE YOU FOLKS TO TO IMPORT AND INPUT THE NEW NUMBER AND INFORMATION FOR THAT, AS WELL AS TO TRY TO PASS FORWARD THAT INFORMATION TO THE NEW NUMBER. SO, SO MY QUESTION IS ALL THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED. DO WE HAVE A LIST? I'M SORRY THERE HAVE BEEN NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED RIGHT. YES. THAT IS ALREADY THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE NUMBERS.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT. ARE THOSE DEPARTMENTS DO WE KNOW WHO THOSE NUMBERS ARE ASSIGNED TO? YES, MA'AM. AND SO THE PERSON WHO ANSWERS THE PHONE AT 404270 7000, THE MAIN NUMBER HAS THAT LIST. SAY AGAIN PLEASE. DOES THE PERSON WHO IS ABLE TO ANSWER PERSON SERVICE THAT ANSWERS THE CITY'S MAIN NUMBER HAVE THE LIST OF NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED SUCH THAT IF I CALL AND SAY I WANT TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY IN SANITATION, AND IF THE SANITATION NUMBER HAS CHANGED AS A PART OF EITHER TRANSFERRING THEM OR THEY HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER TO GIVE TO THEM TO SAY, I WILL TRANSFER YOU, BUT THE NUMBER HAS CHANGED TO THIS. DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS FILLING IN THE GAP UNTIL WE NOTIFY RESIDENTS OF ALL OF THE NUMBER CHANGES, THAT NUMBER THAT YOU'RE SAYING, HAS THAT CHANGED? NO. WILL THAT BE PART OF THE CHANGE? YES. WILL IT BE IN INCREMENTS AS WE ARE DOING THE CHANGE? WE ARE WORKING THAT OUT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE TRAINING THE NEW. WHAT'S THE BEST TERM? I GUESS THE NEW SERVICE HAS A PLAN THAT YOU CAN MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES MORE ADJUSTABLE, WHERE THE OLD PLAN DID NOT. AND SO I DON'T I THINK THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL OF HOW DO PEOPLE GET TO DEPARTMENTS WHILE WE'RE FIGURING OUT THE MASS COMMUNICATION PLAN. SO I DON'T THINK THAT PART IS EXECUTIVE SESSION. MR. JONES, IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO HAS ALL OF THESE NUMBERS THAT IF SOMEBODY CALLS A CITY, THEY CAN REDIRECT PEOPLE AND SHARE WITH THEM THE NEW NUMBER IN THE INTERIM, BEFORE THE MAIN NUMBER CHANGES ON WITHIN THIS MONTH, I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT ONE. WE JUST STARTED TODAY. SO THIS

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COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL MEMBER. SO YOU CAN DESELECT YOUR MIX AND HE'S ABLE TO SPEAK. NOW GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO AND YOU SAID IS THAT POSSIBLE TO GET THAT LIST AVAILABLE? THAT IS POSSIBLE. WE WILL BE GETTING THAT LIST OUT. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. CITY ATTORNEY I HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MAYOR WAS ASKING. IS THERE JUST A LIST? AND YOU DID SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A LIST. SO WHEN PEOPLE CALL IT IF THEIR NUMBERS CHANGE NOW, I CAN REMEMBER WAY BACK IN THE DAY IF I HAD AN OLD NUMBER WHEN THEY DIALED THAT NUMBER, IT'LL SAY THE NUMBER HAS CHANGED. AND THIS IS WHAT THE NEW NUMBER IS. IS THAT AN OPTION THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. SO WHEN PEOPLE START TO CALL, THAT CANNOT BE ANSWERED DUE TO THE COMMENT THAT THE LEGAL HAS STATED THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO. YEAH OKAY. THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL LET ME JUST KIND OF LEAVE THOSE QUESTIONS THERE BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF THING. BUT I WILL SUGGEST THIS. FOR THE MAIN NUMBER. IF SOMEONE IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOESN'T, SOMEONE THAT THEY DON'T PICK UP, WE START SOME SORT OF VOICEMAIL OR SOMETHING JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING. ALSO UTILITY BILLS, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE OUR BIGGEST THING, JUST TO MAKE SURE, JUST SO THAT PEOPLE WILL KNOW TO START NOW, MAKING PEOPLE AWARE THAT BY THE END OF THE MONTH. SO YOU'RE SAYING WE HAVE A CASH OF ABOUT 400 NUMBERS THAT WILL CHANGE. YOU SAID, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR COMMENT? SO I HAVE IT. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO IT'S ABOUT 400 NUMBERS. YES. SO I THINK IT'LL JUST BE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SOFTEN THE BLOW JUST AS IT GOES BECAUSE THAT THAT'S A HUGE I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S A BIG CHANGE. SO JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW. SO I THINK. WELL MY QUESTION FOR THAT. BUT I MEAN, JUST TO START, IF WE PUT SOMETHING IN THE CITY EMAIL, I MEAN IN THE UTILITY BILLS AND ALSO ON THE CITY WEBSITE, JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT NUMBERS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU.

AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK NOW WOULD START THE PROCESS OF PUTTING IT IN THE UTILITY BILLS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED AND EACH DEPARTMENT WHAT THE NEW NUMBER IS, AND IT SHOULD RUN UNTIL ALL OF THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN PORTED, OR ALL OF THE NEW NUMBERS HAVE COME UP. BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE END OF THE MONTH? SOMEBODY'S GOING TO CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND THE NUMBER IS GOING TO BE CHANGED. NO. OKAY. I WAS GOING TO I WANTED I WANTED TO ADDRESS HER POINT. YES, MA'AM. IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE ON THE COMMUNICATION PLAN WE HAVE. IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE 30 TO 60 DAYS PAST FINAL ROLLOUT OF THE PHONES TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO FULLY ABSORB. BECAUSE I IN MY HISTORY, I DON'T THINK THE 30 DAYS IS ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY THE FIRST NOTIFICATION GOING OUT WILL PROBABLY BE IGNORED. SO WE WOULD WANT AN ADDITIONAL ONE OUT THERE. POSSIBLY THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO. YOU STILL HAVE TO NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS THAT THE NUMBERS ARE BEING CHANGED. YEAH, YOU STILL HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM. YOU CAN'T WAIT 60 DAYS. YOU HAVE TO START IMMEDIATELY NOTIFYING THEM OF THESE NEW NUMBERS. YES, MA'AM. AND WE'LL DO THAT. YES. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

MR. WELLMAN, YOU HAD STATED THAT I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT COMMUNICATING THE FACT THAT THE CITY NUMBERS WILL CHANGE. AND YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE WEBSITE AND IT BEING ON. CAN YOU JUST SAY THAT AGAIN? BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I PERKED UP.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE. I'M GOING TO LET MR. ROBINSON TAKE THAT. YES. ON THE HOME PAGE OF THE WEBSITE.

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SO THE WEBSITE REALLY SHOULD BE A GREAT INFORMATIONAL TOOL. AND SO WITH SOMETHING AS MAJOR AS CHANGING ALL OF THE NUMBERS IN CITY GOVERNMENT, IS THERE NOT A WAY WITH THE FRAME THAT WE'RE USING FOR OUR WEBSITE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE ANY PERSON NEEDS TO SCROLL DOWN SO THAT IF THE NUMBERS ARE CHANGING AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE CHANGING, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN EXTRA STEP. ONCE THEY GET TO THE WEBSITE, SOMETHING SHOULD BE SORT OF AT THE TOP OF THE FRAME TO LET THE FOLKS KNOW THAT THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED AND HOW TO REACH THE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO MORE AND MORE STEPS.

UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING WITH THE WEB DEVELOPER ON TO PUT IT AT THE TOP BANNER, JUST MUCH LIKE YOU WOULD DO A POWER OUTAGE OR SOME OTHER EMERGENT PIECE, WE'RE MAKING IT SO IT WILL BE THERE AND NOT THE SCROLLING FUNCTION. AND THEN IF NECESSARY, IT WILL IT SHOULD HAVE A HYPERLINK IN IT. ALSO, SIR, THAT WOULD TAKE YOU TO EITHER A SEPARATE PAGE OR A SECTION OF THE PAGE DIRECTLY SO THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD FIND THAT AS EASILY AS POSSIBLE. SO WITH THE THE BANNER AT THE TOP, WHAT IS THE LEAD TIME TO GET THAT DONE? AND DO WE NOT DO THAT INTERNALLY THROUGH IT, OR DO WE GO THROUGH A VENDOR TO CHANGE OUT THAT INFORMATION? SURE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. FIRST PART LEAD TIME IS 24 HOURS. WE DO HAVE A VENDOR WHO IS A WEB DEVELOPER WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH MY TEAM MAYBE FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS. HE'S VERY RESPONSIVE, AND WE COORDINATE WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AS WELL. BUT THAT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM AT ALL. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF STEPS. THEY'RE PROBABLY ALREADY FRUSTRATED DIALING A NUMBER THAT IS NO LONGER WORKING, AND THEN GO TO THE WEBSITE. AND THEN IF THEY'RE NOT WATCHING THIS MEETING OR DON'T KNOW, THEY MAY NOT KNOW TO SCROLL DOWN TO FIND THAT INFORMATION. SO IT SHOULD REALLY BE READILY AVAILABLE WHEN THEY GO TO OUR WEBSITE. WE'LL DO THAT. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. YES. AND IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IF I AM 80, I'M NOT GOING TO A WEBSITE. AND THAT'S LIKE THE MAJORITY OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST AREN'T THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERNET. MY MOM IS FAIRLY YOUNG, DOES NOT TOUCH THE INTERNET, BUT MY DAD AND THEY'RE AROUND THE SAME AGE, FLUENT IN THE INTERNET AND ACCESSIBILITY. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND IS I THINK SOMEONE RECOMMENDED THE UTILITY BILL, BUT ALSO INFOGRAPHICS LEFT RIGHT THERE AT CITY HALL WHERE WE HAVE THOSE THAT STACK OF INFORMATION WE NEED TO DESIGN SOMETHING. SO IT'S RIGHT THERE IN CITY HALL FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP AND ALSO MAYBE TAKE THE SAME INFOGRAPHIC OR THE INFORMATION OVER TO THE BOWDEN CENTER. WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS THAT ARE GOING RIGHT THERE TO THE BOWDEN CENTER, AND ALSO CUSTOMER CARE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING INTO CUSTOMER CARE TO PAY FOR THEIR UTILITY BILLS. SO ALL OF THE TOUCH POINT PLACES WHERE OUR RESIDENTS GO, I WOULD EVEN SAY JEFFERSON PARK PUT SOME INFOGRAPHICS RIGHT THERE ON THE COUNTER IN JEFFERSON PARK. BUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS INFORM, INFORM, INFORM. SO IN ADDITION TO, YES, GOING ONLINE, WE NEED PIECES OF PAPER AS WELL TO SAY, HEY, THESE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED.

THIS IS WHAT'S OUT THERE. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU. POINT NOTED. AND WE WILL DO THAT. WE WILL CONSIDER THAT. YES. SO SO THE REALITY OF IT IS NOBODY KNOWS 400 NUMBERS FOR THE CITY. RIGHT. SO THE THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT WON'T BE NOTICED IF THE RIGHT NUMBERS ARE PROVIDED. AND SO WHAT HAS GENERALLY BEEN COMMUNICATED IS THE PHONE NUMBERS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS. RIGHT. THERE ARE MULTIPLE THERE ARE MULTIPLE LAYERS WITHIN DEPARTMENTS. BUT IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING OUT WITH THE PHONE NUMBERS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT. IF WE GIVE PEOPLE TOO MANY NUMBERS, LIKE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE IN ORDER TO GET INFORMATION OR GET THINGS DONE WITHIN THE CITY, THEIR DEPARTMENT, THE MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER DEPARTMENTS, THEIR KEY NUMBERS THAT PEOPLE THAT WE'VE SHARED. I THINK THERE'S EVEN A FLIER OR SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GIVEN OUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES WITH THOSE KEY NUMBERS.

THE SOONER WE CAN GET THAT AND GET IT TO THE PERSON WHO'S ANSWERING THE GENERAL NUMBER

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AND SO THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR BEING JUST FOR COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THE GENERAL NUMBER WAS CHANGED WAS THAT THAT'S THE NUMBER AT THE RECEPTION DESK. THE 404270 7000.

IF I CALL THAT, WILL I GET THE CITY? SO, SO. SO THE THE NUMBER WAS THAT THE. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION. WAS THAT THE MAIN NUMBER (270) 270-7001. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S JUST A GENERAL NUMBER THAT YOU PUSH AND IT TAKES YOU TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. BUT IF THEY NEED TO CALL THE RECEPTION WHICH HAD A NUMBER, THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN CHANGED. THERE IS A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THE RECEPTIONIST. YES. BUT WE ALSO WERE ASKED TO PUT VOICEMAILS ON OUR PREVIOUS PHONES. SO I KNOW MY MY OFFICE HAS DONE IT. WE LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT PHONE NUMBER WAS NO LONGER WORKING, AND THEN WE ADDED OUR NEW NUMBER TO IT. SO THE 404270 7000 NUMBER I JUST CALLED IT SAID THIS NUMBER IS NO LONGER IN SERVICE. IF YOU SO. WHAT NUMBER IS ON THE WEBSITE? IT'S NOT ON THE WEBSITE BUT WHAT I, WHAT I SENT Y'ALL. WHAT'S THE WE DON'T HAVE A CITY PHONE NUMBER A MAIN NUMBER. OH YOU MEAN LIKE THE THE MAIN CITY NUMBER THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING FOR YEARS? IS IT 7000? IS IT 7001? I THINK IT'S 701. YES. THANK YOU JAMES. OKAY. THE LIST OF NUMBERS ON THE WEBSITE. BUT WE WILL BE ALTERING THE DELIVERY OF THE WEBSITE. AS THE GENTLEMAN HAS MENTIONED, SHOW FOR OUR CUSTOMER CARE NUMBER, POWER, WATER, SEWER PLANNING AND ZONING, HUMAN RESOURCE, FINANCE, COMMUNICATION, FLEET, CITY CLERK, CITY MANAGER, OFFICE, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, CONTRACTS AND PROCUREMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND PUBLIC WORKS. THOSE NUMBERS, THE INTERIM NUMBER TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS IS LISTED ON THE WEBSITE PRESENTLY. SO THE (404) 270-7001 NUMBER IS STILL WORKING. SO IT WASN'T 7007 001.

SO THAT MUST BE THE GENERAL CITY NUMBER THAT'S WORKING IN WHERE THAT INFORMATION SHOULD.

YEAH 7000 ISN'T. BUT 7001 IS OKAY. SO THAT THAT'S POINT NOTED. WE WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. YES. 7000. THAT'S THE MINIMUM OKAY. 7001 IS THE MAIN NUMBER NOT 7000. I MISSPOKE ON THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS 7007 ZERO. I JUST CALLED IT 7000 IS DISCONNECTED. 7001 IS A CITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CALLING. THE CITY OF EAST POINT IS WHAT IT SAYS. THAT'S STILL OPERATING.

(404) 270-7001. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE ANY OTHER. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND SHARING THIS UPDATE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. JONES WILL LET YOU KNOW. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS YOU ALL TO

[XV. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

EVERYONE. REAL ESTATE COUNCIL I HAVE I'M GOING TO SAY TWO PERSONNELS. THREE FIRST PERSONNEL. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSIONS SO FAR? WE HAVE TWO REAL ESTATE FOR LITIGATION AND FOR PERSONNEL. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, CAN WE GET A

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