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DECEMBER 8TH SPECIAL CALL MEETING OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEDLY HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADKINS WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER.
CUMMINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN ROGERS. PRESENT. MADAM. MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS EVENING, ATTORNEY CHARLES JOHNSON WILL BE STANDING IN FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY TILL SHE ARRIVES, AND IS ALSO A PART OF THE TAB PRESENTATION. I AM GOING TO READ THE PUBLIC HEARING RULE INTO THE RECORD. BEFORE I ASK FOR THE MOTION TO OPEN, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
RULE 29, THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL BE ADVERTISED AS PER ORDINANCE.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBJECT WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. THOSE. OOPS. I DID TURN MY. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE SUBJECT WILL SPEAK FOR THEN SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS MAY GIVE A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER. AFTER ALL, THOSE PRESENT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. RESIDENTS WILL BE GIVEN FIRST PRIORITY TO SPEAK. AFTER ALL, RESIDENTS HAVE GIVEN BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
NONRESIDENTS MAY SPEAK BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR EACH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT TO A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES PER SIDE. EACH SIDE WILL BE GIVEN THE
[III.1. Public Hearing on Proposed Redevelopment Plan for Proposed Tax Allocation District (Hereinafter Collectively Referred to as the "East Point Innovation TAD-South")]
SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM. GOTTA GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED TAX ALLOCATION.DISTRICTS. SO MOVED. SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST WITH A PRESENTATION REGARDING TAD SOUTH, ATTORNEY JOHNSON. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. FOR YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE ARE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, ON TWO REDEVELOPMENT PLANS PROPOSING THE CREATION OF TWO TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICTS. THERE WILL BE NO VOTE TONIGHT ON ON A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT ANY OF THESE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS. BUT THE REDEVELOPMENT POWERS LAW REQUIRES THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN BE CONSIDERED BY BE CONSIDERED IN A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO NOTICE, AND THE NOTICE HAS OCCURRED, AND THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PREPARED AND HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. AND MR. KOSKI IS HERE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH. TAKE YOU THROUGH. THANK YOU, ATTORNEY JOHNSON. MR. KOSKI, YOU CAN COME ON UP. AND SINCE WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE HEARINGS, I'M NOT SURE IF THE PRESENTATION DOES. TAD SOUTH, TAD NORTH? IF SO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE WE COULD JUST STOP AT TAD SOUTH. IF NOT, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE OVERVIEW TWICE, BUT GO AHEAD. GOT IT. WELL I'LL FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON THE OVERVIEW THIS TIME AROUND. I WON'T NEED TO NEXT TIME AROUND.
SO JUST AS A REVIEW AND WE CAN KEEP TALKING NEXT TIME AROUND. BUT JUST AS A REVIEW THIS ISSUE OF OF TAD'S WAS FIRST DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL IN END OF OCTOBER. ATTORNEY JOHNSON HAD REACHED OUT TO ME SOMETIME IN MID OCTOBER TO TALK ABOUT TAD'S KB ADVISORY GROUP, OF WHICH I AM
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PRESIDENT AND OWNER. WE WRITE TAD PLANS REDEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR TAD'S AROUND THE STATE, SO THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR US TO GET THAT CALL. IT WAS UNUSUAL FOR US TO GET IT THAT LATE IN THE GAME. SO WE'RE WE'RE ON A FAST TRACK. HERE IS THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP. SO WE DID WE WERE HERE ON NOVEMBER 3RD AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 10TH I MADE ANOTHER PRESENTATION.THESE ARE JUST SOME MAPS THAT YOU SAW TO REPRESENT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WHEN I WAS HERE AT THAT TIME. THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE ON. YOU CAN SEE THE BIG ARROW POINTING TO TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING THERE. THIS IS THIS IS PER THE STATE LAW. SO YOU CAN SEE THE IDEA IS, IS THAT THE PLANS, ONE OR BOTH OF THE TAD PLANS ARE APPROVED TO SET UP THE TAD'S. AND AT THAT POINT WHEN YOU SEND THE LETTER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, THE TAD BEGINS, THEY CERTIFY THE TAD AND THE BASE VALUE IS LOCKED IN. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ON A FAST TRACK TO GET THE BASE VALUE LOCKED IN BEFORE THE END OF 2025. IF YOU DON'T DO IT NOW AND YOU PASS THE TAD PLANS IN JANUARY, THE BASE VALUE OF THE TAD'S DON'T GET LOCKED IN UNTIL DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF END OF THE YEAR. HURRY, WE COULD DO IT IN JANUARY, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF QUOTE UNQUOTE LOSING A WHOLE YEAR OF BASE VALUE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE HERE BEFORE IS THAT YOU HAVE ONE TAD, IT'S TAD NUMBER TWO. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAD TAD NUMBER ONE.
IT WAS THE CAMP CREEK PARKWAY. TAD, THAT WAS SUPER SUCCESSFUL. YOU RETIRED THAT TAD. THIS IS THE TAD THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. I JUST WANT TO POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE OF THOSE BULLET POINTS IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THIS TAD THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ACCOUNTS FOR 5.7% OF THE OVERALL CITY TAX DIGEST. THAT MATTERS BECAUSE STATE LAW SAYS YOU CAN ONLY GO TO 10% OF ALL YOUR COLLECTIVE TAD'S. THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY, AS OF TODAY, 5.7%. IT WILL LIKELY MOVE UP. IT'S BEEN GROWING IN VALUE BY A LITTLE BIT. SO NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AS A PERCENT OF YOUR TAD PERCENTAGE. OVERALL PERCENT OF YOUR DIGEST. SO IF YOU REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION, THIS WAS A MAP THAT WE SHOWED. WE SAID AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WE COULD HAVE TWO TAD'S. THERE'S TWO PRIORITY AREAS, TWO AREAS THAT WERE HAVE VACANT INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS AND LAND. AND SO IT WAS DETERMINED AT SOME POINT IN THIS PROCESS.
LET'S GO FOR TWO TAD'S. BUT COULD WE FIT TWO TAD'S UNDER THAT 10% CAP? ONE OF THE REASONS THESE IT SAID LET'S GO FOR TWO TAD'S BECAUSE IN BOTH AREAS ARE SITES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN PREVIOUS PLANS THAT YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED OR THIS BODY HAS APPROVED. AND ALSO THE OWENS, ILLINOIS REDEVELOPMENT SITE IS DOWN THERE NEAR THE WILLINGHAM LCI STUDY AREA. SO THAT MADE SENSE AS ONE PLAN UP TO THE NORTH, SYLVAN OAKLEY AREA, AS WE'RE CALLING IT, HAS ALSO SITES THAT WERE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN IN THAT AREA ALSO HAS EMPTY AND VACANT LOTS, EMPTY BUILDINGS, ETC. SO WE ALSO DID SOME EXPLORATION OF OTHER SITES THAT MIGHT FIT IN TO THESE TAD'S. SO WE ARE BRINGING TONIGHT TWO PLANS THAT HAVE THAT ARE TO BE CONSIDERED SEPARATE. THEY ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE OF EACH OTHER. BUT IF YOU WERE TO PASS THEM BOTH, THIS IS KIND OF HOW THE NUMBERS SHAKE OUT. AND AGAIN THERE'S LOTS OF NUMBERS. I KNOW WE'RE ON A TIME CRUNCH. NOT HAVE NOT. I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY NUMBERS YOU WANT TO, BUT JUST KIND OF POINTING OUT THE RED ONE, THE RED NUMBERS IN THE MIDDLE, JUST THAT 10% CAP. IF YOU WERE TO PASS BOTH OF THESE PLANS, YOU WOULD BE AT 9.3% OF YOUR OVERALL DIGEST. SO THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER PARCELS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND. SO THAT'S A LOT. THAT'S BASICALLY THE BACKGROUND THAT I'M GOING TO GO OVER. THAT KIND OF SPEAKS TO BOTH OF THESE PLANS THAT ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN I'LL GO INTO NOW. WELL, OKAY.
AND THEN AND YES I'LL GO INTO THREE TAD THREE NEXT. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED IF AND WHEN YOU DO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ONE OR BOTH OF THESE PLANS, YOU ARE BASICALLY SETTING, AS I SAID, THE BASE OF YOUR VALUE WITHIN THE TAD BOUNDARY. YOU'RE SETTING THE BOUNDARY AND THE BASE YEAR. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO ANY PROJECTS, GETTING MONEY, IF YOU WILL. YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO ANY PROJECTS, GETTING ZONING APPROVALS BY ANY PARTICIPANT, BY ANY WAY. YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS MILLAGE RATES. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT MORE, BUT IT'S
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IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE SETTING UP THIS TAD AND YOU'RE ONLY PUTTING IN YOUR EASTPOINTE MILLAGE INTO IT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING HERE, INCLUDING YOU'RE NOT RAISING TAXES, YOU'RE NOT MESSING WITH PEOPLE'S TAX BILLS. IF IF THEY'RE IN THE TAD IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE TAD, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IN TERMS OF THE TAX BILL THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. YOU'RE NOT RAISING THE TAXES BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A TAD OR NOT IN A TAD BASED ON THE MILLAGE RATES. SO AGAIN, IF YOU WERE TO PASS THESE PLANS, YOU BECOME AS THIS BODY, THIS BODY BECOMES THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENT AND YOU GET TO CONTROL THESE TAD'S. OR YOU CAN PASS THAT POWER OFF TO SOMEONE IN THE CITY, WHICH AGAIN SPECIFIC PLACES IN THE CITY YOU COULD PASS THAT OFF TO IF YOU WANTED TO. OKAY. NOW THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE COVERS AND THE TABLE OF CONTENTS OF THE TWO PLANS WE'VE WRITTEN IN THIS TIME FRAME THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING OR NOT.WELL, WE'RE OFFERING TO YOU THESE PLANS THAT CAN BE ADOPTED BASED ON WHAT WE HEAR FROM YOU TONIGHT AND WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. THESE CAN BE ADOPTED. THESE CAN BE MODIFIED.
THESE CAN BE NOT MODIFIED, NOT ADOPTED. THE YOU CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE FROM HERE. BUT YOU HAVE TWO PLANS THAT COULD BE ADOPTED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. TAD THREE WE'LL TALK ABOUT PROPOSED TAD THREE. YOU SEE IT OVER HERE. YOU SEE THIS TABLE OF CONTENTS. TABLE OF CONTENTS IS EXACTLY THE SAME. BOTH PLANS. BECAUSE WE FOLLOW THE LAW. THERE'S ONE LAW. TITLE 36, CHAPTER 44 SPEAKS ONLY TO TAD'S. AND THAT'S THE LAW THAT WE KNOW BEST. WE'RE NOT LAWYERS, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT LAW AND THIS TABLE OF CONTENTS FOLLOWS THE LAW SO QUICKLY. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S IN THIS TAD, WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH ALL PAGES. WE'RE. I GOT ABOUT FIVE SLIDES TO GET THROUGH HERE. JUST IF YOU IF YOU BEAR WITH ME, THIS GIVES YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW. THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. SO WHEN YOU READ THE PLAN YOU READ THE FIRST SEVEN PAGES AND THEN YOU START OVER AGAIN WITH THE FULL PLAN. SO WE KIND OF PUT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. YOU CAN READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY GET GET THE BIG IDEAS. THE FULL PLAN IS THERE FOR YOU. RIGHT BEHIND IT. YOU CAN SEE THE THE VISION FOR THIS PLAN. AGAIN, THIS IS LARGELY BASED ON THINGS THAT WE KNOW LARGELY HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED IN THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR LCI STUDY, AS WELL AS THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD. AGAIN, THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WE WHEN WE DID THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH YOU, ALL THINGS THAT WERE PRIORITIES IN THIS AREA. SO HERE'S THE MAP, THE FINAL MAP. IT IS ALSO KNOWN THAT THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT CONNECTS THE PARCELS IS IN THE TAD AS WELL. SO THE THE ONE YOU CAN SEE TO THE VERY SOUTH IS BOBBY BROWN PARKWAY. THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE TAD CONNECTING THAT VACANT PARCEL DOWN THERE TO THOSE OTHER PARCELS IN WHAT WE CALL THE THE THE HOTEL DISTRICT. NOT ALL OF THE HOTELS ARE IN THIS TAD. THERE'S AGAIN, WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST THAT 10% CAP. AND SO THEREFORE YOU CAN'T JUST PUT EVERYTHING YOU WANT IN THERE.
SO WE WERE MAKING DECISIONS MOSTLY FOLLOWING THE THE GUIDANCE THAT WE HEARD FROM YOU ALL FROM THE BEGINNING OF VACANT LAND, VACANT BUILDINGS, DECLINING BUILDINGS, BUILDINGS THAT NEED TO BE REDEVELOPED OF SOME SORT. SO A LOT OF THE HOTELS ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT PERFECT, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY NOT NOT GOING AWAY. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET REDEVELOPED ANYTIME SOON NECESSARILY. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO PUT SOME OF THOSE IN THERE, BUT WE HAD TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT WENT IN AND WHAT WENT OUT. SO THE LOWER VALUE PROPERTIES, THE MORE LIKELY TO BE REDEVELOPED PROPERTIES MADE IT IN. AND THE THE THE VISION OF THE WILLINGHAM LCI AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS TAD ON OWENS ILLINOIS SITE IS WHAT GUIDED HOW THIS BOUNDARY CAME TOGETHER. AGAIN, IT CAN BE REFINED. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO THIS CAN BE CHANGED. BUT THIS IS THE IDEA SO FAR. AGAIN, THIS THIS THIS IS GROUNDS FOR EXERCISE OF THE POWERS. IT IS CONSIDERED UNDER THIS SPECIFIC LAW, UNDER VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES LAID OUT IN THE LAW. IT IS DETERMINED THAT IT'S BLIGHTED AND DISTRESSED. IT IS DETERMINED THAT IT IS A DETERIORATING AREA, NOT THE ENTIRE AREA, BUT THE AREAS WITHIN THE THE THE TAD BOUNDARIES MAY MEET THE DEFINITION OF THESE THINGS PER THE LAW. AND SO AGAIN, THESE ARE KIND OF THE NUMBERS, THE BASE VALUE. YOU CAN SEE IT'S ABOUT 230 ACRES IN TOTAL. IT'S ABOUT $77 MILLION WORTH OF REAL ESTATE PER THE TAX ASSESSOR. SO THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY QUOTE UNQUOTE, THAT THE TAX COLLECTIONS THAT WOULD BE FROZEN AND THE AND THE YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO GET THIS AMOUNT OF VALUE OFF OF THESE PROPERTIES. IT'S THE GROWTH IN THE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE
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USED FOR REDEVELOPMENT, GROWTH IN THE VALUES IN THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE USED FOR REDEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE TAD THAT YOU CAN POUR. THEN THAT INCREMENT GROWTH BACK INTO THIS AREA TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE OF REDEVELOPMENT, ETC. SO THAT IS THE THE, THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF THE BOUNDARIES WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF. YOU CAN AGAIN SEE YOU HAVE TO DO THIS IDEA OF WHAT MIGHT GO, WHAT MIGHT GO ON THESE PARCELS IF THEY GET REDEVELOPED. THIS IS A TOTAL PLANNERS, YOU KNOW, EDUCATED GUESS, FRANKLY, OF WHAT MIGHT GO ON THIS SITE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, PER THE LAW, DO THIS TYPE OF FORECAST. SO THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT COULD GO INTO THIS PLAN. IT'S REALLY FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY. BUT YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE THE TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE. AND AGAIN THIS IS A PLAN.THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT IS IN YOUR PLAN RIGHT NOW TO BE APPROVED AND CONSIDERED AS A ILLUSTRATIVE IDEA OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN AT SYLVAN ROAD. IT'S IN THE PLAN. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S IN THE PLAN IS ONLY TO SAY, THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD GO THERE. IT'S NOT TO SAY THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW HAS TO GO THERE, BUT BY BY SAYING THIS IS THE TYPE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THIS SITE IS A PRIORITY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF I WAS GOING TO SAY LONG AND THE SHORT, BUT IT'S NOT ALL THAT SHORT. BUT THAT'S THE BIG IDEAS OF TAD THREE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL NOW TURN TO THE PUBLIC TO SEE IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK.
AND DEPUTY CITY CLERK, WE NEED TWO TIMERS. I NEED ONE FOR 15 MINUTES, AND THEN EACH SPEAKER HAS UP TO THREE MINUTES. AND SO I NEED YOU TO KEEP A RUNNING TIMER AS WELL AS AN INDIVIDUAL TIMER FOR SPEAKER SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TAX ALLOCATION? DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT IS INDICATED ALSO AS TAD SOUTH. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF. TAX ALLOCATION. DISTRICT NUMBER THREE. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TAX ALLOCATION? DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TAX ALLOCATION. DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST SEEING THAT THERE'S NO SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? PRIOR TO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED? NO, NO. BEFORE WE CLOSE, CAN YOU WITHDRAW THAT MOTION FOR ME JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'LL WITHDRAW? YES. OKAY. MOTION WAS WITHDRAWN AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, ALL WE HAVE ARE THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION, WE CAN TAKE THEM ON EACH TAB.
REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL BEFORE THE HEARING IS CLOSED. AND SO ANY COMMENTS FROM OR DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL ON. WHAT IS INDICATED ON THE AGENDA. IS EAST POINT INNOVATION TAD SOUTH AND PRESENTED AS TAX ALLOCATION. DISTRICT NUMBER THREE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE PRESENTER, PLEASE. AND MY QUESTION IS JUST SIMPLE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY LIVE IN OUR CITY, THAT US OR THE BENEFITS OF IT FOR A CITY. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN? THE PURPOSE OF THE TAD AND ITS BENEFITS TO A CITY? YES, MA'AM. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE BEFORE WERE WERE MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT IS THIS TYPE OF QUESTION. SO I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THOSE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE, AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THE IDEA WELL, OKAY, SO A TAD IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. IT'S IN THE TOOLBOX, RIGHT. AND SO AGAIN, AS A CONSULTANT THAT WORKS ALL OVER THE STATE OF GEORGIA DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, STRATEGIC PLANS LIKE WE DID FOR Y'ALL AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS THROUGHOUT GEORGIA. WE SEE SUCCESSFUL CITIES WITH FULL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL BOXES, AND THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN DIFFERENT PLACES. BUT THE ONE TOOL THAT IS MOST SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THINGS REDEVELOPED, GOING FROM ONE TROUBLED AREA TO SOMETHING ECONOMICALLY VIABLE IN GEORGIA, THE ONE TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO DO BIG THINGS LIKE THAT IS
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PRETTY MUCH TAD. THERE'S AND VARIATIONS OF TAD, BUT PRETTY MUCH THIS IS THE TOOL TO DO BIG THINGS. THE COOL THING ABOUT TAD IS YOU CAN ALSO DO LITTLE THINGS WITH IT TOO, BUT THAT'S WE CAN GET INTO ALL THAT LATER. BUT YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS VIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH TAD. SO WHEN A CITY PASSES A TAD, YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY AREA. WE WANT TO GIVE THIS AREA SPECIAL ATTENTION BECAUSE WE THINK THIS AREA HAS MORE POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. LARGELY, THAT MEANS WE CAN WE CAN GET MORE PROPERTY TAXES FROM THIS AREA TO HELP FUND THE REST OF THE CITY. BUT YOU HAVE TO FOCUS THAT ATTENTION THROUGH THIS TAD TO GET OFTEN IS HOW CITIES ARE DOING THIS. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT WE, WHEN YOU PASS A TAD ALL THE PROPERTY VALUE THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY COLLECTING WITH FROM WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES CONTINUES TO FLOW TO YOUR GENERAL FUND. THE REST OF THE ACTION HAPPENS AS THE TAX IS COLLECTED AND PUT INTO A SPECIAL FUND. ANY GROWTH FROM HERE ON OUT WHILE THE TAD IS IN PLACE, THE GROWTH IN PROPERTY TAXES FLOWS TO THE SPECIAL FUND.ULTIMATELY, THE IDEA IS THAT SPECIAL FUND COMES BACK RIGHT INTO THE TAD TO HELP PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IT FOCUSES GROWTH. IT PUTS PROPERTY TAXES WHERE THEY ARE BEING CREATED THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET THAT REDEVELOPMENT DONE. SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE KIND OF PHILOSOPHY. THE IDEA BEHIND THE TAD IS THAT IT FOCUSES INFRASTRUCTURE AND GIVES INFRASTRUCTURE A TOOL TO GET TO GET THERE, RIGHT. THE TAD HELPS INFRASTRUCTURE GET PUT IN PLACE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MAYOR. SORRY I'M LATE. SORRY. COUNCILMEMBER FRIEDSON. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. MAINLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO. TAD'S, ESSENTIALLY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN BRIEFLY HOW THEY ARE EITHER SORT OF RELATED OR UNRELATED? TIED. NOT TIED. ARE THEY SORT OF MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL? DO THEY GO AS A PAIR JUST RIGHT? IT'S A IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. IT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION QUESTION. SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS MAP THAT ISN'T EXACTLY THE TAD'S BUT THE THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH TAD'S ARE BASICALLY REPRESENTED HERE IN BLUE AND PURPLE JUST FOR AN ILLUSTRATIVE DISCUSSION HERE, TO SAY THAT THESE TWO TAD'S ARE BOTH FOCUSED SIMILARLY ON OLD INDUSTRIAL AREAS FOR LACK FOR GENERAL GENERAL FOCUS IS OLD INDUSTRIAL AREAS IN THE CITY THAT NEED SOME ATTENTION. THEY'RE BOTH DIFFERENT. AND SO BECAUSE PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THE SOUTH ONE, THE WILLINGHAM AREA HAS A LCI PLAN, A VERY SPECIFIC VISION. WE AND BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY OWENS ILLINOIS NOISE SITE THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT AREA WANTS TO BE. IT ALSO HAS THE HOTEL DISTRICT. SO WE'RE SORT OF LUMPING THE HOTEL DISTRICT IN TO SAY, LOOK, WE'VE GOT THIS TOOL FOR THIS AREA THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT WANTS TO BE. WE HAVE A PLAN, WE HAVE MULTIPLE PLANS. THE THING IS TO TWO THINGS. WHY ARE THE THE NORTH SIDE IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE SOUTH SIDE? ONE IS THERE ISN'T A SIMILAR VISION. RIGHT.
WE WOULDN'T WANT TO APPLY THE WILLINGHAM LCI VISION TO THE SYLVAN OAKLEY AREA. WE DIDN'T THINK NOW YOU COULD IF YOU WANTED TO, BUT WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO SAY WHATEVER'S HAPPENED IN WILLINGHAM SHOULD HAPPEN UP HERE. SO WE THOUGHT THESE SHOULD BE REALLY TWO DISCUSSIONS, TWO PLANS TO TO SORT OF SETS OF OBJECTIVES. AND THAT WAS THE KIND OF, AGAIN, PHILOSOPHY BEHIND IT. NOW TECHNICALLY, BECAUSE OF THE WAY TAD TWO IS DRAWN, YOU TECHNICALLY CAN'T CONNECT THESE TAD'S. YOU BASICALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TAD FOR WILLINGHAM DRIVE, IT'S GOT TO BE THIS SOUTHWEST. SOUTHEAST, EXCUSE ME SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE CITY BECAUSE THE TAD CAN'T CROSS THE RED LINE. THAT RED LINE IS YOUR CURRENT TAD. SO TAD'S CAN'T CROSS STREAMS, A PARCEL OR A PIECE OF RIGHT OF WAY CAN ONLY BE IN ONE TAD AT A TIME. SO YOU'VE GOT THE. SO THE SOUTH TAD IS THE SOUTH TAD, AND THEN THE NORTH TAD IS BASICALLY THE NORTH TAD. IT'S LOCKED IN THE REST OF THE AREA AROUND THERE IS NOT IN MOST OF ITS RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO THE TAD'S ARE THE TAD. SO THEY ARE, I WOULD SAY, VERY MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PASSED TOGETHER BY ANY MEANS.
AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THE NORTH TAD DOESN'T HAVE A LCI PLAN, SO I COULDN'T. WE HAVE ENVISIONED WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN THERE, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A A APPROVED PLAN THAT TOLD US
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WHAT THAT OUGHT TO BE. WE'RE JUST SORT OF GOING ON WHAT WE THINK BASED ON OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK, AND THERE ARE SOME PARCELS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN UP HERE.SO THAT ONE IS, I WOULD SAY, LESS DEFINED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE LCI PLAN. I WILL ALSO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, TO ANSWER A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED. THE NAMES ARE NOT I MEAN, THOSE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY BE CHANGED. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE NAMES. WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO THOSE NAMES BY ANY MEANS, BUT THEY SEEM TO WORK.
BUT IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, NOW WOULD BE THE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE NAMES AND YOU PASS THESE TESTS AND THIS WILL BE THE NAME NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF CITIES THAT I HAVE POINTED OUT. AND COUNCILMAN BUTLER, I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT SOME OTHER PARCELS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. THEY COULD NOT BE ATTACHED, QUOTE UNQUOTE, TO EITHER THESE PADS AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THAT RED LINE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE SAID, IF YOU WANT TO PASS BOTH OF THESE TAGS, YOU CAN YOU'VE GOT TWO PLANS. THEY'RE BOTH LEGAL AND READY TO GO. YOU ONLY THEN WOULD HAVE LESS THAN 1% FOR THE REST OF YOUR TAD'S. IF YOU WANTED TO DO MORE, YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME SOME PARCELS STRIP STRIP AREAS, YOU KNOW, STRIP MALLS THAT MIGHT NEED REDEVELOPMENT ALONG WASHINGTON ROAD. ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER PARCELS THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED IS ALREADY IN TATTOO. SO YOU'VE GOT SOME ROOM TO DO MORE TAD'S IF YOU WANTED TO DOWN THE ROAD, IF YOU WERE TO PASS THESE. BUT ALL OF THE THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ABOUT OTHER PARCELS THAT AREN'T IN THESE TAD'S.
MOST OF THOSE ARE ANSWERED JUST TO SAY THEY COULDN'T BE BECAUSE THE WAY THESE ARE SORT OF BLOCKED IN. THANK YOU. CAN YOU JUST GIVE AN UPDATE OR TELL EXACTLY WHERE THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH NORTH SIDE IS? SO I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY ONE IS ON ILLINOIS. JUST KIND OF GIVE LIKE WHAT'S AROUND. YEAH. YES, MA'AM. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TAD THREE IS ACTUALLY THE ONE OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING. OH SORRY. MY RIGHT. YOUR LEFT. YEAH. SO ALRIGHT SO THERE'S THESE ARE THE THE TWO TAD'S. LET ME GO BACK TO A BETTER MAP SO YOU CAN SEE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR LCI STUDY TAKES IT. THIS IS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP HERE WHERE IT MENTIONS WILLINGHAM. WILLINGHAM. SO THAT'S THE THE CORRIDOR WILLINGHAM THAT IT'S MOSTLY NORTH OF OF WILLINGHAM UP TO CENTRAL OKAY. AND CENTRAL AVENUE IS UP THERE. AND THEN THERE'S THE ESSAR RECYCLING SITE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL POP UP HERE, BUT. OH YEAH, HERE IT IS. SO THIS IS SAY RECYCLING AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
SO THIS THIS IS WILLINGHAM HERE. SORRY. IT'S BEHIND YOU. THIS IS WILLINGHAM. SO THIS IS KIND OF BEEN THE FOCUS AREA OF THE LCI AREA. THIS THIS IS A SITE THAT THE LCI SAID SHOULD BE REDEVELOPED. THIS IS THE THIS IS CENTRAL. I FORGOT THE NAME OF THIS STREET. IT'LL COME TO ME, BUT THAT'S ESSAR RECYCLING. OWENS ILLINOIS SITE. SYLVAN ROAD IS RIGHT HERE. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. SYLVAN ROAD COMES DOWN HERE. AND THEN THE LAST KIND OF LANDMARK IS WHAT? THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE HOTEL DISTRICT ALL ALONG HERE ALONG 85. SO THE HOTELS YOU CAN SEE IN EASTPOINTE ALONG 85, NOT A LOT OF THEM ARE IN. BUT THESE SITES RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERCHANGE ARE IN. AND THIS IS A VACANT A VACANT SITE DOWN THERE IN THE HOTEL LAND. SO THAT'S TAD THREE, THE ENO, THE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT. AND THEN HERE'S TAD FOUR AS PROPOSED. AGAIN, THIS IS SYLVAN. SO SYLVAN IS THIS IS NOW LET ME JUST BACK UP. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE I KNOW IT CHANGES COLORS I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS PURPLE. SO NOW THIS IS TAD FOUR. THIS WAS OUR JUST DESCRIBED TAD THREE. ALL OF THIS THIS IS NOW TAD FOUR PURPLE. BUT IT'S ABOUT TO TURN YELLOW. ALL RIGHT SO HERE'S TAD FOUR. THE IDEA IS THIS IS. AND SO IT'S CALLED THE SYLVAN OAKLEY. SO SYLVAN AND OAKLEY SYLVAN AND OAKLEY. AND AGAIN THIS IS YOU CAN SEE BIG
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LARGE INDUSTRIAL USERS. THESE ARE THERE'S SOME ACTUALLY SOME PUBLICLY HELD PARCELS OVER HERE.RAILROAD PARCELS TAX EXEMPT PARCELS MOSTLY RAILROAD TAX EXEMPT PARCELS. THESE ARE BIG BOXES. SO THERE'S SOME DEFINITELY SOME OPPORTUNITY IN HERE. THIS THIS AREA WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. NOT ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE EMPTY OR GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED NOW OR IN THE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA ON KIND OF A GATEWAY TO YOUR CITY. SO TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL IS RIGHT HERE, BY THE WAY. RIGHT? SO TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THE, THE THE SOUTHERN SOUTHWESTERN BOUNDARY OF THIS RIGHT UP TO THE CITY LIMITS BY THE MARTA STATION, THE LAKEWOOD MARTA STATION. SO BASICALLY THE AREA TO THE EAST BETWEEN THE LAKEWOOD MARTA STATION AND TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL, OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO HOW DO OTHER AREAS GET TAGGED? BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE TAG IS IN. IT'S IN TWO AREAS SOUTH AND NORTH. BUT THEY'RE BOTH IN ONE IN IN WARD B. I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF THE WARD BOUNDARIES. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO I WOULD SAY THAT KNOWING YOUR CITY PRETTY WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU ALL KNOW IT.
YOU LIVE HERE, YOU YOU WORK IT. SO I, I COULD BE WRONG. BUT HAVING WORKED HERE FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, I WOULD SAY THAT THESE ARE PROBABLY YOUR TWO MOST LIKELY AREAS FOR TAD.
NOT TO SAY THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT AREAS IN THE CITY, BUT JUST THE WAY A TAD WORKS, THESE WOULD, I WOULD SAY, FIT THE PROFILE. THERE ARE OTHER PARCELS CALLED ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE THAT I COULD SEE WANTING TO NEEDING A TAD. I SEE THE THIS IS ONE, THIS PARCEL OVER HERE WHERE THEY TREAT THE PHONE, THE UTILITY POLES. THAT COULD BE A TAD SOMEDAY MAYBE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PLACES THAT COULD BE TAD'S. THIS IS THE AREA THAT HAS BEEN SORT OF IDENTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE LCI PLAN, IF NOTHING ELSE, AS, AS AN, AS AN AREA. PLUS THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS TOLD US THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS TELLING YOU ALL THAT THIS IS A SITE THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, BUT THEY NEED SOMETHING LIKE A TAD TO TO HELP THEM, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT UP. SAY AGAIN. SORRY. YEAH. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO YOU. YOU COULD HAVE YOU COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TAD'S ELSEWHERE. IF YOU DON'T THINK THESE ARE THE RIGHT TAD'S THEN YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO PASS ONE OR YOU KNOW, YOU COULD CHOOSE 1 OR 2 OR, YOU KNOW, IF THESE ARE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES, THEN YOU THINK THE CITY OUGHT TO BE CHOOSING. THEN YOU KNOW, THAT'S THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. BUT THIS IS SORT OF WHAT WE THINK IS THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT, IF YOU ASK ME. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU DID MENTION WE HAVE, WHAT, 1% LEFT IF IF WE A LITTLE BIT UNDER. YES, BUT 7/10 OF A PERCENT. SEVEN TO BE PRECISE. YES. HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK YOU DID ALSO MENTION THE WASHINGTON ROAD PLAZA EARLIER. DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH? YEAH, I DO, I MEAN, BASED ON OUR CALCULATIONS, WE, WE LOOKED AT I THINK IT WAS THREE PARCELS ON WASHINGTON ROAD, KIND OF AS EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE POINTING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OF WHAT WE THOUGHT COULD BE PARCELS ON WASHINGTON ROAD. THEN THIS IS ONE WE BROUGHT UP EARLIER AT A MEETING. AGAIN, HERE'S YOUR TATTOO. THIS IS WHERE THEY TREAT THE UTILITY POLES. YOU KNOW, THIS SITE RIGHT HERE. WOULD BE ONE TENTH OF 1% RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. SO THIS THIS SPEAKS TO THAT. SO AGAIN THERE'S NOT A TON OF TON OF SPACE. BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, CALL IT THREE PARCELS ON WASHINGTON ROAD WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DOABLE IN 2026 IF YOU WANTED TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE BRIEF. MISTER ATTORNEY JOHNSON, MR. KOSKY MENTIONED THAT THE NAME ISN'T RELEVANT NOW OR IT CAN BE DECIDED. WHEN DOES THAT DECISION HAVE TO BE MADE AS IT RELATES TO THE NAME OF THE TASK. SO WHEN YOU ALL VOTE, YOU WILL VOTE ON A RESOLUTION WHICH WILL ADOPT A NAME. AND SO THAT WILL THAT WHATEVER THE NAME IS IN
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THE RESOLUTION, IS THE NAME OF THE TAD. AND SO IF YOU IF YOU WANT, THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE ON SOME SOME OTHER NAME OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED SO FAR. THANK YOU. AND IF I COULD JUST ADD FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT. SO AGAIN THESE TAD'S ARE READY TO GO. I HAVE COPIES OF THEM. I ASSUME THERE'S COPIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THEY COULD BE VOTED ON IF YOU HAVE CHANGES. SORRY. YOU MEAN THE REDEVELOPMENT, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN? SORRY, SORRY. THE REDEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. IF WE WANT IF YOU WANT ANY CHANGES, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES. IT'S JUST THAT WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST 24 HOURS BEFORE YOUR YOUR. YOU VOTE ON IT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE GOTTA DO SOME WORK TO CHANGE THINGS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU ARE THE, YOU KNOW, DECIDED THAT THE NEED TO BE MADE, INCLUDING THE NAME WE NEED TO KNOW ASAP, BUT AT LEAST 24 HOURS BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT. AND THAT GOES THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT. I THINK YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT. AND OF COURSE ONE PERSON CAN'T DIRECT THAT CHANGE. BUT WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO THE NAME FOR YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IT AS TAD THREE, THE ONE REFERENCES TAD SOUTH. YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TAD SOUTH AND TAD NORTH. ON A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES. YOU HAVE THAT ONE AS WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT TAD NUMBER THREE. RIGHT? I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THIS DISCUSSION IF PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS FOR NAMES TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE THOSE. SO THAT CONSENSUS COULD BE GATHERED AS TO WHAT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD VERSUS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF US CAN'T DIRECT THE NAME OF IT. IS EVERYBODY. I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERN RAISED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT INDICATES THE AREA. SO THIS ONE INDICATES WILLINGHAM. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON ANOTHER NAME? ONCE. WILLINGHAM INNOVATION TAD NUMBER THREE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT. SO IT SPEAKS TO THE WILLINGHAM. THE THE ONLY IDEA BEHIND HAVING INNOVATION IN THERE. I MEAN IT WAS A NAME THAT HAD WE HAD HEARD IN THE DISCUSSION FROM THE TIME WE WERE BROUGHT IN, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS USEFUL HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WILLINGHAM LCI DISTRICT AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, INTENDED TO HELP YOU IMPLEMENT THE WILLINGHAM LCI DISTRICT, BUT TO DIFFERENTIATE IT FROM THAT PLAN, WE'RE CALLING THIS THE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT.MAYBE IT'S CONFUSING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT WAS THE IDEA. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NAMES, BUT IF YOU DID, THE NORTH AND SOUTH BOTH COMBINED. I KNOW NORTH IS JESUS. I KNOW SOUTH IS GOING TO BE THE THE WILLINGHAM. THE NORTH IS WHAT WHAT WHAT KIND OF. WE'RE CALLING IT THE SYLVAN OAKLEY DISTRICT. JUST BECAUSE THOSE YOU PUT THOSE TOGETHER DO I MEAN WE COULDN'T WE COULDN'T HAVE ONE TAD. THAT INCLUDES BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE OF THE BOUNDARY ISSUE, OKAY? BECAUSE IT HAS TO CONNECT. IT WOULD BE EASY ENOUGH. I WISH WE COULD. I MEAN, THAT'D BE EASY IT BEFORE.
SO YEAH, THE PROBLEM IS THE TAD NUMBER TWO, THE CLEVELAND AVENUE CORRIDOR IS IN THE MIDDLE. OKAY. SO YEAH BECAUSE THAT CAN'T CROSS OVER. RIGHT OKAY. SO. IF YOU CALL IT WILLINGHAM INNOVATION. AND THEN I HAD A CONCERN I WANTED ABOUT I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE PLAZAS, THOSE THREE AREAS ON WASHINGTON ROAD. COULD THEY BE INCLUSIVE IN THAT AS WELL? BECAUSE I KNOW THE WHERE THE SEMI I DON'T KNOW THAT WHERE THE SEMI CHEESECAKE THAT PLACE.
YEAH. THERE. YOU CAN'T GET WASHINGTON ROAD IN HERE AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE WAY TATTOO IS DRAWN AND THE WAY THE CITY BOUNDARIES ARE. SO THE BLACK IS THE CITY LIMITS RIGHT. AND THE RED IS YOUR TAD BOUNDARY. SO WASHINGTON CROSS ANY OF THOSE. THEY CAN'T CROSS ANY OF THOSE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON WE CAN'T PUT THEM TOGETHER. IT'S ALSO THE REASON WE CAN'T GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF CITY HALL, FOR EXAMPLE, TO PICK UP WASHINGTON ROAD PARCELS OVER THERE. WITHIN THESE TAGS, YOU COULD DO A WASHINGTON ROAD TAD, AT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF ANY OTHER TAD THAT YOU COULD DO, AS LONG AS IT STAYED UNDER THAT 10%, 10%. AND OUR ESTIMATION IS
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IF YOU LOOKED AT THREE OF THE OF THE MOST LIKELY PARCELS ON WASHINGTON ROAD, YOU WANTED A WASHINGTON ROAD, TAD, YOU COULD DO THAT NEXT YEAR IN A DIFFERENT TAD PLAN. OKAY. BUT IT CAN'T BE PART OF ONE. IT CAN'T BE PART OF EITHER OF THESE. YEAH. BE A PART OF WILLINGHAM. OKAY. JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S THE LAW. I'M. YEAH, YEAH, OKAY. THEM'S THE RULES AS THEY SAY. YEAH. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU I YIELD. OKAY. ANY OTHER IDEAS ON NAMES OR DISCUSSIONS BEFORE I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC[III.2. Public Hearing on Proposed Redevelopment Plan for Proposed Tax Allocation District (Hereinafter Collectively Referred to as the "East Point Innovation TAD-North)]
HEARING ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED TAX ALLOCATION? DISTRICT TEN NORTH SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. YOU CAN, MISTER KIOSK.SO MAY I MAKE A BEFORE I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT PROCESS BEFORE MISTER KOSKI PROCEEDS WITH HIS PRESENTATION. THE REDEVELOPMENT POWERS LAW REQUIRES THAT BEFORE YOU CREATE A TED, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. PREVIOUSLY, WHEN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HAS CREATED TED'S, IT IS VOTED ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN TO APPROVE THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THE SAME DAY. AT THE SAME MEETING, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN HELD. THAT IS NOT THE PROCESS WE'RE FOLLOWING. THIS TIME. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A VOTE AT A SEPARATE MEETING, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR THE 15TH AND THE POWERS LAW SPECIFIES WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE. AT THE MEETING ON THE 15TH. IT SAYS AT SUCH MEETING, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN SHALL BE APPROVED AND SUBMITTED, AMENDED AND APPROVED OR REJECTED AND RETURN TO THE RELEVANT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR CONSIDERATION. ANY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN REJECTED BY THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY SHALL BE RETURNED TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, AND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS OF SUBSECTION B OF THIS CODE SECTION. IF AGAIN SUBMITTED TO THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY FOR APPROVAL, EITHER IN THE SAME OR AMENDED FORM, SO YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS. NEXT MONDAY, YOU CAN APPROVE THE PLAN AS SUBMITTED, AMENDED AT THAT TIME, OR REJECT IT AND SEND IT BACK. BUT YOU HAVE THIS THIS DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR TO CAPTURE THE BASE AS IT EXISTS THIS YEAR. ANY GROWTH IN THE DIGEST THAT OCCURS AFTER DECEMBER 31ST WILL NOT BE INCLUDED. WILL, WILL WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE BASE. WILL YOU WILL WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BASE FOR A TAG THAT WILL BE SET, SET FOR NEXT YEAR. IT WOULD BE PART OF THE INCREMENT. IF IT'S IF THE TED IS CREATED DECEMBER 31ST. THANK YOU. ATTORNEY JOHNSON. COULD YOU ALSO. WELL I WE'RE NOT AT GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'LL JOT IT DOWN FOR LATER. ALRIGHT. SO ONE THING I'LL JUST POINT OUT TOO IS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS COVER CITY OF EAST POINT, FULTON COUNTY, FULTON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING AT SOME POINT FOR FULTON COUNTY AND THE FULTON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR TAD TO PUT THEIR MILLAGE RATE INTO THE TAD'S. THERE ARE TAD'S THAT WORK JUST FINE WITHOUT THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PARTICIPATION. BUT THEY PRETTY MUCH YOU YOU CAN DO MUCH SMALLER THINGS WITH YOUR TAD WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THEIR MILLAGE. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING AND YOU CAN KEEP TRYING FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION FOR MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU WANT TO.
BUT SO OKAY, SO NOW WE HAVE TAD DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR. THAT IS THE SYLVAN OAKLEY TAD AS WE'RE PRESENTING IT. AND AGAIN IT'S SIMILAR IN THAT IT'S SUPPORT THE MODERNIZATION OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE INTO MUCH DIFFERENT USERS. AND YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY REALLY LOOK AT INTEGRATING MORE MIXED USE PROJECTS INTO THE AREA THAT FEATURE A WIDER MIX OF OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S ALL GOOD REAL ESTATE SPEAK PLANNER SPEAK FOR SAYING, YOU KNOW, SOME REDEVELOPMENT OF THESE OLD PARCELS INTO SOMETHING MODERN AND NEW. AND SO AGAIN, THIS WAS THE, THE, THE, THE IDEA THE TAD TAKES IN A LOT OF THESE LARGER PARCELS. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE LARGER INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS
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OFTEN GET ONE, ESPECIALLY NOW WHEN THEY'RE NOT MADE OF BRICK. RIGHT. THE OLD THE OLD COOL ONES MADE OF BRICK OR THEY GOT VALUE FOR YEARS TO COME BECAUSE WE LOVE THAT STUFF. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOVABLE BUILDINGS. SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GO DARK AND EMPTY, YOU WANT TO HAVE A TOOL TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THEY UGLY, THEY ALSO ARE A DRAIN ON YOUR PROPERTY TAXES. RIGHT. AND SO THIS ALLOWS YOU TO KIND OF THINK FORWARD ABOUT, OKAY, IF THESE IF AND WHEN THESE THINGS ARE VACANT, HOW DO WE ADDRESS IT. THIS GIVES YOU A TOOL TO DO THAT. THAT'S THE IDEA. AND SO AGAIN WHEN WE MAKE THE CASE FOR WHY A TAD IS LEGAL HERE, IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THIS AS A DETERIORATING AREA BECAUSE NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF JUST WHAT I SAID. AND THE DATA SHOWS US THAT THESE ARE ALREADY OLD BUILDINGS. FOR THE MOST PART, ALL THOSE RED DOTS ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OLDER THAN 40 YEARS OLD. RIGHT? SO THE BIGGEST ONE THERE IN THE MIDDLE IS NOT THAT OLD YET, BUT IT'S GETTING THERE. AND MOST OF THE OTHER STUFF IS OLD ALREADY. SO THAT'S THE IDEA THERE. THEY'RE LARGELY VACANT NOW BECAUSE THESE ARE BIGGER PARCELS. THE VALUE IS ACTUALLY HIGHER HERE OVERALL A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. REMEMBER THE LAST ONE WAS LIKE 70,000,070 SOMETHING MILLION. THIS ONE IS 100 AND ALMOST 120 MILLION. IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT BASE VALUE. AND AGAIN IT'S BECAUSE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY EXPENSIVE BUILDINGS. THEY'RE BIG, BUT THEY'RE DETERIORATING. AND THIS IS SORT OF A AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A TOOL IN PLACE TO REDEVELOP SOME OF THESE OLD THINGS. NOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRIVATE MARKET IS REALLY ACTUALLY GOING TO DO HERE. THIS IS JUST US, YOU KNOW, TAKING A SHOT AT MAYBE THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME. IF YOU REDEVELOP SOME OF THE OLD INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS INTO RETAIL AND OFFICE AND HOUSING INSTEAD IT'S IT IS A PLANNER'S BEST GUESS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES. NONE OF THIS IS SET IN STONE BY ANY MEANS. THIS IS JUST GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD WORK, BUT WE HAVE.THE LAW REQUIRES THAT YOU DO THIS KIND OF FORECASTING AND PLANNING, BUT ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AGAIN, PLENTY OF, YOU KNOW, WORDS IN THE PLAN. BUT THIS REALLY GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF THE GENERAL, GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT THIS PLAN IS ALL ABOUT. SO I'LL KIND OF LEAVE IT THERE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON IT. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EASTPOINT? TAX ALLOCATION? DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR, SYLVAN OAKLEY, ALSO REFERRED TO AS EASTPOINT INNOVATION TAD NORTH? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? SO PUBLIC HEARING, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN? THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN? ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS? TAX ALLOCATION DECISION? I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN ATTORNEY JOHNSON, YOU MENTIONED AT THE OPENING THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF APPROVING BY DECEMBER 31ST IS TO LOCK IN THE TAX BASE SO THE INCREMENT CAN BE DECIDED. ALSO, IF A DECISION IS MADE AFTER JANUARY, I MEAN, AFTER DECEMBER 31ST, WOULD THESE TAGS BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL IN 2026? I KNOW, SO CORRECT. NO THEY WOULD NOT. SO THE THE ABILITY TO TO LOCK IN THE BASE. WELL YOU WILL NOT HAVE A TAG AT ANY TIME UNTIL IF YOU CREATE ONE ON JANUARY 2ND OF 2026, THE TAD WOULD TAKE EFFECT AT DECEMBER 31ST OF 2026. SO YOU WOULD LOSE A WHOLE YEAR OF OF EFFECTIVENESS. SO WOULD IT TAKE EFFECT ON DECEMBER 31ST OR THE INCREMENT WILL BE LOCKED IN ON DECEMBER 31ST OF 2026. BUT AND IT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL IN 2027. CORRECT. OKAY. YOU YOU WOULD LOSE A WHOLE A WHOLE YEAR OF EFFECTIVENESS. CITY MANAGER JONES. YES, MA'AM. OH, I SAW YOU I SAW YOU ON MY Q OH, NO, NO NO WORRIES, MR. KOTTKE, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE TAD
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SOUTH WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR. I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, TAD WAS BASED ON THE WILLINGHAM LCI STUDY AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THERE WASN'T A SEPARATE LIKE PLAN OF SUCH FOR NORTH.BUT WHEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS UPDATED, WERE THESE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS LOOKED AT AS A PART OF THAT PLAN? THEY WERE THERE WERE NO I MEAN, THERE WERE SPECIFIC PARCELS IDENTIFIED AS AS LIKELY OPPORTUNITIES BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD. THERE WERE NO SPECIFIC OPPORTUNITIES OTHER THAN THE OWENS, ILLINOIS SITE THAT WAS MENTIONED AS IMMINENT, IF YOU WILL LIKE READY TO GO A DEVELOPER TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE AREAS WERE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE A COUPLE PARCELS IN EACH AREA THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, AGAIN, TO NOTIFY THAT THESE ARE AREAS THAT THAT HAVE PARCELS THAT COULD BE REDEVELOPED IN THE PROPERTIES IN TAD NORTH OR SYLVAN OAKLEY THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WITH THIS TAD SUPPORT. THE IDEAS OR THE WHAT WAS SHARED IN THAT STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AROUND THE SITES IDENTIFIED IN THIS AREA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL HEY, THANKS AGAIN. QUICK QUESTION.
SO WHAT IF WE DON'T USE 100% OF OUR ABILITY TO TURN? TO TURN THESE ATTACKS? YEAH. SO THERE'S MOST CITIES DON'T HAVE TABS THAT GO UP TO 10%. THE CITY OF ATLANTA IS A VERY UNIQUE BIRD IN THE TAD WORLD. THEY'RE THEY'RE WAY OVER 10%. BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN WORTH DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW. MOST TAD'S AND MOST CITIES IN GEORGIA ARE, YOU KNOW, LOWER THAN 10%. THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE BASICALLY MAXED OUT, BUT EITHER WAY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU'RE USING IT. IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IN THE FUTURE. IF YOU'RE AT 10%, IT JUST MEANS YOU CAN'T CREATE ANOTHER ONE. BUT YOU'VE GOT ROOM TO CREATE SOME. SO EVEN WITH THAT, ARE WE SAYING WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS TO THESE OUR CURRENT PLANS BEFORE THE 31ST OR WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT OR. YEAH, I MEAN, THE IDEA IS THAT POTENTIALLY ON MONDAY, NEXT MONDAY, YOU'LL HAVE A RESOLUTION TO VOTE ON EACH OF THESE PLANS. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THESE THESE TWO TAD PLANS, AS DISCUSSED TONIGHT WITH THOSE PARCELS AND THOSE BOUNDARIES, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THAT. THESE PLANS SEPARATELY ON MONDAY NEXT MONDAY. SO I GUESS ANY CHANGES HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WELL, IF YOU CAN, IF WE CAN. YOU KNOW, IF I CAN HAVE A LIST OF CHANGES, I CAN I CAN SAY THOSE OUT LOUD BEFORE THE VOTE, AND I CAN HAVE AN UPDATED PLAN IN YOUR HANDS BEFORE THE VOTE. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S DRASTIC CHANGES. THE MAIN THING IS CHANGES IN PARCELS. CHANGES IN PARCELS IN THE BOUNDARY. EVERYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE CAN BE CLEANED UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE VOTE IS TYPICALLY HOW IT WORKS. BUT IF THERE, BECAUSE THE MAIN THING YOU'RE DOING WITH THESE PLANS ARE ARE SETTING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN OF THE TAD AND WHAT PARCELS GO IN. SO THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY DRASTIC CHANGE. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S TYPOS THAT WE FIND, WE CAN CLEAN THOSE UP BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT. BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE FINAL VERSION OF THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT. AND ANY DRASTIC CHANGES WILL REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO KNOWING THAT THE NORTH DOESN'T HAVE LIKE AN LCI PLAN, ARE WE ABLE TO DO THE TAD FIRST AND THEN DO AN LCI PLAN LATER? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M JUST USING LCI BECAUSE WILLINGHAM HAS IT. I WOULD SAY IT, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS AN LCI PLAN, BUT I WOULD SAY JUST SOME SORT OF LARGER PLANNING VISION FOR THE AREA. THAT SORT OF GUIDES TO ME AT THIS POINT, IF YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE TAD, WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING IS MOSTLY TELLING THE PUBLIC SECTOR, EXCUSE ME, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, HEY, HERE'S AN AREA THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT A TAD FOR, AND NOW HERE'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND THEN THAT BECOMES ALMOST LIKE MARKETING TO BRING IN THE DEVELOPER TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT. SO IT USUALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE MASTER PLAN AND YOU SAY, OH, WE NEED IMPLEMENTATION TOOLS. SO LET'S HAVE A TAD. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WILLINGHAM. IT'S JUST YOU COULD DO IT KIND OF THE REVERSE, BUT YOU END UP IN THE SAME SPOT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER FREELAND. COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER'S
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QUESTION JUST SORT OF REVERSED THE INTENT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. SO IN THE NORTH, IN THE SOUTH, WE CLEARLY HAVE THE OWENS ILLINOIS, WHICH IS POTENTIALLY SORT OF THIS DRIVER PROJECT TIME SENSITIVE. SO ON ON THE NORTH, IT'S A LITTLE LESS DEFINED. SO MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, IS THERE NO HARM, NO FOUL IF WE DECIDED TO HOLD OFF ON THE NORTH AND, I DON'T KNOW, SORT OF DEVELOP AN LCI OR WHATEVER. RIGHT. BUT YOUR ANSWER SUGGESTS THAT MAYBE IT'S SIX OF ONE, HALF A DOZEN OF THE OTHER, THAT HAVING A TAD HERE COULD BE ITS OWN SORT OF STARTER. IT COULD BE SOME CITIES HAVE DONE THAT, MANY CITIES HAVE DONE THAT. BUT I WOULD SAY THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT IT HAVE DONE KIND OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER WAS SAYING IS THAT YOU DO SOMETHING ELSE JUST BY HAVING A TAD DOESN'T MEAN THAT ANYONE, ANY REDEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THE TAD IS A TOOL TO GET SOME REDEVELOPMENT DONE. YOU GOT TO HAVE A USUALLY YOU GOT TO HAVE A PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNER. YOU COULD DO THIS ON YOUR OWN IF YOU HAD OTHER VISIONS TO SOMEHOW DO REDEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNER. BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THESE ARE DOING. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF, IF YOU HAVE A TAD, YOU GOT TO MARKET IT IF YOU WILL. AND I'M USING AIR QUOTES ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO MARKET IT. RIGHT. SO I ADD TO THAT TO THE TO THE ANSWER. SO THE TWO THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN 2026 THAT COULD CREATE PROBLEMS. ONE IS THAT YOU HAVE SO MUCH GROWTH IN VALUES IN THE TAD THAT YOU EXCEED YOUR 10%, AND YOU CAN'T CREATE A NEW TAD FOR FOR AN AREA THAT HASN'T BEEN CREATED IN A TAD BEFORE THE OTHER. THE OTHER IS THE OTHER IS THIS THAT THAT IF THERE'S AGAIN, IF THERE IS GROWTH IN 2026, THE THE REVENUE THAT IS PRODUCED BY THAT GROWTH WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE TO, TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT. IT WILL NOT GO INTO THE SPECIAL FUND FOR THE TAD. IT WILL JUST GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE CITY. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IF YOU DELAY RIGHT NOW. UNDERSTOOD.AND AND I'M MUCH CLEARER ON THAT ON THE, ON THE SOUTH. TAD. IT'S JUST MY QUESTION IS MORE ON THE NORTH. BUT MR. KOSKI SO IT'S NOT YOU WOULD NOT SAY THAT HAVING A TAD FOR THE THIS NORTH PLOT OF LAND IS PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A SPECIFIC VISION FOR IT. I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T BE UNUSUAL IS THE WAY I WOULD SAY IT, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IF I HAD TO CHOOSE ONE, I WOULD CHOOSE THE WAY YOU'RE DOING IT ON WILLINGHAM. DO THE MASTER PLAN FIRST AND DECIDE YOU NEED A TAD, THEN PUT IN A TAD. BUT AGAIN, I WOULD BET 50% OF THE SIMILAR TAD'S IN GEORGIA ARE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PUTTING THE TOOL IN PLACE. AND NOW LET'S GO MAKE IT WORK. SO I WISH I HAD A BETTER ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT THE WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN IN PLAY HERE IS AGAIN THE GROWTH YOU'RE STILL GETTING THE. SO THERE'S REALLY YOU'RE NOT PUTTING A LOT IN PLAY BY BY HAVING THIS SYLVAN OAKLEY TAD. YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL COLLECTING THE BASE VALUE WITH EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE GOT IT IN A TAD. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF PRECEDENT IF YOU, IF YOU THIS BODY DECIDES ANY TIME DOWN THE ROAD THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THESE TAD'S AS LONG AS YOU HAVEN'T MADE ANY OBLIGATIONS TO THEM, AS LONG AS YOU HAVEN'T MADE ANY PROMISES, ANY PAYOUTS YOU CAN DELETE, YOU CAN GET RID OF THEM AS FAST AS YOU CREATE THEM, JUST WITH A RESOLUTION AND A VOTE. THANK YOU. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, COULD YOU AMEND COULD THE COULD IT BE AMENDED TO TAKE SOME PARCELS OUT AND KEEP PARCELS IN, OR DO YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF IT IN ITS ENTIRETY IF THERE'S NO OBLIGATIONS AGAINST IT, IT GIVES YOU MORE OPTIONS. BUT WHEN YOU MOVE PARCELS IN AND OUT, YOU'RE BASICALLY THE LAW IS IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT YOU HAVE TO RESET THE BASE. SO IF EVEN IF YOU CHANGE ONE PARCEL IN OR OUT ON A TAD, YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED, YOU'RE BASICALLY CREATING A NEW TAD. OKAY. AND THEN. THE I GUESS A BENEFIT IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO DEVELOP IN THIS SYLVAN OAKLEY AREA IN 2026, THIS WOULD BE A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL THAT COULD BE USED TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. IF THERE'S NOTHING, NO HARM, NO FOUL. BUT IF SOMETHING COMES UP AND IT'S NOT IN PLACE, THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ECONOMIC
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DEVELOPMENT TOOL IN PLACE TO HELP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS OR HELP MAKE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WORK. AND FROM A MARKETING PERSPECTIVE, IF IT'S APPROVED, THERE'S ALSO SAYING THAT, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE WANT TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT IN TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT IN. THIS TOOL ALREADY AVAILABLE. AND SO THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP ATTRACT THE RIGHT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO DOING THE PLAN LATER. I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE CONVERSATION OF GOING DOWN TO 166 WHEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION INITIALLY ABOUT IT, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT ABOUT A WARD B COUNCIL MEMBERS AROUND, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER ASKED ABOUT WHAT COULD WE DO DOWN IN 166? THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA AND THE ABILITY TO INCENTIVIZE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT WANT THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO SEE IN THAT AREA, OR TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THAT AREA AS SOMETHING OTHER THAN INDUSTRIAL. RIGHT? OR, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE ON DEVELOPING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THIS AREA THAN THE INDUSTRIAL THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR FOR DECADES. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK AROUND HELPING WITH MARKETING THAT THIS AREA IS NOT WE DON'T WANT THE AREA TO CONTINUE TO BE THIS INDUSTRIAL.RIGHT. WE LIKE TO INCENTIVIZE OTHER USES AND DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE AREA WOULD GIVE THE THE TOOL AND MAKE IT BE AN AVAILABLE TOOL IN 2026 VERSUS LATER SOMETIME LATER. ANY. YOU MENTIONED? THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, ATTORNEY JOHNSON, THAT WE COULD EITHER APPROVE, AMEND AND APPROVE OR REJECT. RIGHT. AND WHEN YOU SAID AMEND AND APPROVE, THAT'S AMEND AND APPROVED THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH COULD BE THE LANGUAGE. BUT WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS THE BOUNDARIES, CORRECT? CORRECT. QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON.
I'LL JUST SAY LAST THING, I PROMISE IN THE BACK OF EACH PLAN, PER THE LAW, THERE IS A LIST OF ALL THE PARCELS AND THE PARCEL NUMBERS AND THE NAMES AND THE VALUE, I THINK. YES. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. IS THIS IN, IS THIS OUT? IF YOU SEE IT ON HERE IT'S IN. IF YOU DON'T SEE IT ON HERE IT'S OUT. BUT AGAIN EACH PLAN HAS ITS OWN LIST OF PARCELS. SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK SPECIFIC PARCELS AND YOU WANT TO GET ONE IN OR OUT NEXT MONDAY, WE CAN DO AN AMENDMENT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT PARCELS. SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN DO THIS ANY WAY YOU WANT. WE'RE ON A FAST TRACK. SO WE'RE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT IS A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. SO THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LET ME ASK THE SAME QUESTION OF COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO NAME. IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS EAST POINT INNOVATION. TAD NOR TAD NORTH TONIGHT IS PROPOSES TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT FOR SYLVAN OAKLEY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS AROUND THE NAME IN THE EVENT THERE'S A DESIRE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? ANYBODY OBJECT TO THE NAME OF OOPS, CAN YOU GO BACK FOR ME? I THINK I WROTE IT DOWN. I THINK IT'S EAST POINT TAX ALLOCATION. DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR, SYLVAN OAKLEY. ANYONE THAT'S HEARTBURNS ANYONE. SHE SAID SHE WAS YAWNING. OKAY, ALRIGHT. SO I THINK NAMES ARE ARE FINE AND THEN COUNCIL WILL JUST DECIDE WHETHER ONE OR BOTH MOVE FORWARD. CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES THE THE AGENDA INDICATES EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AROUND THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS REGARDING THIS. TAD LOOKING OVER AT THE ATTORNEYS ATTORNEY JOHNSON, NO LEGAL MATTER TONIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING? YES. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. LET'S TAKE A FIVE
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