[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]
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THE DECEMBER 15TH OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINS WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. MIKE ROGERS. PRESENT. MAYOR. HOLIDAY. INGRAM. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TONIGHT OUR INVOCATION WILL BE BY REVEREND WALTER MOBLEY OF THE VICTORY BAPTIST CHURCH.
PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. GOOD EVENING. LET US PRAY.
THE ONE WHO GIVES US LIFE GIVES US OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE EVERY MOMENT WE HAVE LIFE. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL PERSONS. WE THANK YOU FOR THE EMPLOYEES WHO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY, AND WE PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS UPON US EVEN DURING THIS TIME OF STRUGGLE. BUT WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A TIME OF BLESSINGS. NOW WE PRAY YOUR BLESSING ON THIS MEETING IN THY NAME, ALMIGHTY ONE. AMEN.
[V. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS - Capt. Robinson]
OUR SERGEANT AT ARMS THIS EVENING IS NOT CAPTAIN ROBINSON. SERGEANT. LIEUTENANT[VI. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]
PURPLE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO. CAN I GET ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA? SO MOVED THERE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL[VII. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES]
THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. CAN I GET APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL? REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 1ST, 2025. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MINUTES FROM THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON DECEMBER 8TH, 2025. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT'S THREE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.[VIII.1. Zoning Condition Modification for Ordinance # 200-023 to Increase Density from 7 TownHome Units to 12 Town-Home Units. Located at 1457 Gus Thorn Hill Jr Drive PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED]
ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ATTORNEY CORNWELL TO READ THE ZONING RULES FOR THE TWO ZONING PUBLIC HEARING MATTERS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES. BEFORE ADOPTING ANY CHANGE TO THE ZONING MAPS OR TEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. ZONING COMMISSION, WHERE WHERE A RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE ON THE PETITION. PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS. SUBSECTION A THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING. SUBSECTION B THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR HIS HER DESIGNEE WILL INTRODUCE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. STAFF WILL THEN BE CALLED UPON TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUMMARIZE THE STAFF'S WRITTEN REPORT. SUBSECTION C PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, OR APPLICANTS DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS, PROVIDED THAT EACH SIDE IS GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SPEAKER FOR A SIDE, THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER. OTHER THAN THE ZONING APPLICANT, THE ZONING APPLICANT MAY RESERVE A PORTION OF HIS ALLOTTED TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SUBSECTION D SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING.EACH SPEAKER SHALL IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS.
EACH SPEAKER SHALL SPEAK ONLY TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DECISION UNDER CONSIDERATION, SHALL ADDRESS REMARKS ONLY TO THE COUNCIL, AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING
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PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY OTHER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REFUSE A SPEAKER THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE IF AFTER AFTER FIRST BEING CAUTIONED, THE SPEAKER CONTINUES TO VIOLATE THE RULES OF DECORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING CONDITION MODIFICATION FOR ORDINANCE 200 DASH 023 TO INCREASE DENSITY FROM SEVEN TOWNHOME UNITS TO 12 TOWNHOME UNITS LOCATED AT 1457 GUS THORNHILL DRIVE. SO MOVED.SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES, MR. JONES. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF TO OPEN UP WITH A PRESENTATION. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL, HAVE A DIRECTOR SMITH AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR KELLY WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL, KIMBERLY SMITH AND MR. LEE KELLY, REPRESENTING THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1457 GUS THORNHILL JUNIOR DRIVE, KNOWN AS CASE NUMBER 2025 ZM DASH 001-10. THE APPLICANT IS MR. OKOYE AND THIS IS A MODIFICATION TO A CONDITION OF ZONING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REQUESTING A MODIFICATION FOR ORDINANCE 200 DASH 023 TO INCREASE THE DENSITY FROM SEVEN TOWNHOME UNITS TO 12 TOWNHOME UNITS. THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS ARTY AND THAT WILL NOT CHANGE. THE CURRENT LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH ALLOWS 4 TO 8 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE SIZE OF THIS PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY HALF AN ACRE AT 0.5596 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES. THE TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THIS LAND USE DESIGNATION IS R-1, RL, R1, R2, AND R2 AND R3. THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LOTS THAT THE CLEVELAND THE CLEVELAND OVERLAY DISTRICT ALLOWS, AND THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO ALTER THE PREVIOUS PROPOSED UNITS FROM 7 TO 12. THIS IS A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED DURING THE INITIAL REZONING, AND IT SHOWS CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. THEY ARE WISHING TO STRIKE CONDITION NUMBER FOUR AND ADD NO MORE THAN 12 BUILDABLE LOTS. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE INPUT THAT STAFF RECEIVED LAST WEEK. WE HAVE ADDED CONDITIONS NUMBER NUMBER SIX AND I'LL READ IT. FOR THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT A REVISED LANDSCAPING AND SHALL SUBMIT A LANDSCAPING AND EXTERIOR LIGHTING PLAN DEMONSTRATING ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND IMPROVED LIGHTING CONDITIONS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SET PLAN SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY BUILDING PERMITS, AND SHALL BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. ALL REQUIRED LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS SHALL BE INSTALLED AND THERE, AFTER MAINTAINED IN GOOD CONDITION FOR THE LIFE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE END OF STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHAT WAS THE CODE SECTION AGAIN? MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY CORNWELL. YES, MAYOR. FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT IS SECTION TEN DASH 2219. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU CAN START THE CLOCK AND THE APPLICANT CAN OPEN UP THE COMMENTS. AND SO IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES. THE APPLICANT. APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
YES. AND YOU HAVE THE LATEST? YES. TODAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HELLO, EVERYONE. YES. SO WE ARE THIS IS A MODIFICATION OF A CONDITION OF REZONING 1457 GUS THORNHILL JUNIOR DRIVE. IT'S AT
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THE CORNER OF IRENE PARKWAY AND GUSTON HILL. IT'S HALF A MILE FROM DOWNTOWN MARTA IN THE REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE. AND ALSO IN THE CLEVELAND OVERLAY DISTRICT. ZONING.RESIDENTIAL. TOWNHOME. RT. ZONING. MODIFICATION. PURPOSE. SPECIFIC INTENT. RETAINS ZONING CONDITION ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FIVE AND REMOVE CONDITION FOR WHICH IS NO MORE THAN SEVEN BUILDABLE LOTS. THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST TO REMOVE CONDITION NUMBER FOUR PROVIDE HIGH END COMPLEMENTARY TWIN HOMES, BEAUTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DELIVER ECONOMICALLY VIABLE PROJECTS FOR BUYERS. ALSO IMPROVES PROJECT VISIBILITY. ENABLE RAPID PHASE PROJECT DELIVERY. SO EFFECTIVE CHANGES TO PUT HIGHER END LOOKING STRUCTURES AND CLUSTERS OF TWO THAT LOOK LESS TOWNHOME LIKE AND MORE LIKE HOMES. THINK OF IT LIKE SIX HOMES WORTH 600,000 BUILT ON THE CITY LOT. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE REDEVELOPMENT. NEIGHBORHOOD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE 2022, PAGE 78. DASH 79 REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD FUTURE LAND USE, VISION AND INTENT AND THE STATE'S OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD ATTRIBUTES AND SMALLER HOUSING LOTS. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN NEED OF INVESTMENT.
FUTURE PLANNING WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VACANT HOMES LOTS. THESE NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDE AN ASSORTMENT OF HOUSES, HOUSES SUCH AS TWO FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY HOMES. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF THE OVERLAY AND FUTURE LAND USE. CITY TYPICALLY HAVE TWO WAYS OF DEALING WITH OVERLAYS. WE CREATE AN OVERLAY THAT RUNS OVER MULTIPLE FUTURE LAND USE AREAS, OR CREATE AN OVERLAY AND ALTER FUTURE LAND USE OF AREAS IMPACTED. SOMETIMES AN ENTIRELY NEW FUTURE LAND USE CAN BE CREATED TO SUPPORT THE OVERLAY. MOST OVERLAYS EFFECTIVELY SET ASIDE LAND WITH WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE AREA TO ENABLE TARGETED DEVELOPMENT, WHILE OTHER LANDS WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION COMPLIES FULLY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE ACREAGE GUIDES. SO OVER HERE ON THE CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY IS LAYERED OVER FOUR FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO INCLUDE THE CLEVELAND OVERLAY. FUTURE LAND USE. TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD REDEVELOPMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD REGIONAL CENTERS. TOWN CENTER SUBAREA ONE. THE OVERLAY OVERLAYS ARE LAWS THAT SUPERSEDE BASE ZONING, ORDINANCE AND FUTURE LAND USE.
FUTURE FUTURE FUTURE LAND USE AREAS ARE IMPORTANT TO CITY DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, THERE ARE GUIDES AND NOT LAWS THAT BASED ON THE ORDINANCE. ALSO, THERE ARE LAWS BUT ARE SUBSERVIENT TO THE OVERLAY ORDINANCE. SO IN HERE WE TRY TO REFERENCE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE THE GATEWAY EAST POINT, WHICH IS 101 UNITS, WHICH IS AT 64 UNITS PER ACRE. WE HAVE 1100 WASHINGTON, WHICH IS 100 UNITS, AND THEY'RE AT 27 UNITS AN ACRE. WE HAVE THE WAGON, WHICH IS 89 UNITS, AND THE 25 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE STERLING VILLAGE, WHICH IS 58 UNITS, AND THERE ARE 14 UNITS PER ACRE. AND THESE ARE ALL IN THE OVERLAY. THESE ARE ALL OVERLAY DEVELOPMENTS. AND THEN I SKIPPED UNDER NORMAN BERRY, WHICH IS 138 UNITS. AND THERE ARE 23 UNITS PER ACRE. SO I STATED. SO BASED ON THAT UNDER CURRENT UNDER SO SO THE SO THE FUTURE LAND USE GUIDE VERSUS THE OVERLAY PROJECT. SO WHEN WE THOSE THOSE PROJECTS THAT I DID REFERENCE, THEIR FUTURE LAND USE WILL RESTRICT THEM TO EIGHT 4 TO 8 UNITS PER ACRE. BUT CURRENTLY WITH THEIR CURRENT, WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IS 20 UNITS PER ACRE, 23 UNITS PER ACRE. THE GATEWAY THE FUTURE LAND USE DID RESTRICT THEM ALSO 4 TO 8 UNITS PER ACRE, BUT WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IS 64 UNITS PER ACRE. AND AND ALSO THE 1100 WASHINGTON. THEY ACHIEVED 27 UNITS PER ACRE EVEN THOUGH THEY FUTURE LAND IS RESTRICTED THEM TO 48 UNITS PER ACRE. AND SO DOES MARTIN STREET AS WELL 4 TO 8 UNITS PER ACRE. AND BUT THE OVERLAY THEY ACHIEVED 21 UNITS PER ACRE. SO. SO THE TWIN. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN IN OUR NEW DESIGN RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE FEASIBILITY OF THE NEW DESIGN. WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS US TO CREATE. PROJECTS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A PRICE RANGE OF IN THE $200,000 RANGE, AS
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OPPOSED TO THE OLD DESIGN, WHICH WAS IN THE $400,000 RANGE. RETAIL, WHICH KIND OF IN OUR IN OUR PRESENT ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT, WE IT'S MORE FEASIBLE WITH OUR NEW DESIGN AND WITH THE NEW DESIGN WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT BY WE CAN ACHIEVE THIS THIS PRICE RANGE BY INCREASING THE NUMBER, THE DENSITY AND ALSO BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CLEVELAND OVERLAY DISTRICT. SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THE PRIOR DESIGN VERSUS THE NEW DESIGN LOOKS LIKE. THE PRIOR DESIGN HAD SEVEN UNITS. THE NEW DESIGN IS 12 UNITS. THE AVERAGE PRICE ON THE PRIOR DESIGN IS $495,000. THE AVERAGE PRICE ON OUR NEW DESIGN IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $289,000. THE AVERAGE SQUARE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON OUR NEW DESIGN IS 2000FT■!S. THE OLD DESIGN IS 30, 31, 97FT■!S. SO AD THIS IS KIND OF LIKE HOW WE'RE PLANNING ON LAYING IT OUT ON THE NEW DESIGN. THIS WILL BE A TWO FEE. SIMPLE LOTS. THERE'S STATICS MATCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOMES SINGLE FAMILY OR TOWNHOME STYLES. THE SITES ENABLES SIX BUILDING STRUCTURES. NOW THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DID REFERENCE THE STERLING VILLAGE TOWNHOMES AND THAT'S THE ADDRESS HAS 14 UNITS PER ACRE. THE BASE RT ZONING, THE LOT SIZE IS 1700 SQUARE FEET AND THE TOTAL UNITS IS 58 UNITS. THE UNIT SIZE IS 1600 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY'RE PRICED AT $250,000. THE MARTIN STREETS, THE ADDRESS IT'S IT'S SO IT'S IT'S 21 UNITS PER ACRE IN THE CLEVELAND OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE TOTAL UNITS ON THERE IS EIGHT UNITS. THE UNIT SIZE IS 2400FT■, AND THEIR PRICE IS AT $325,000. SO THE PROJECT AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF 2025, 202,025FT■!S EXCEEDS TE THE COMPARABLES. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY BIGGER IN AVERAGE LOT SIZE THAN WHAT WAS ALREADY DONE IN THE PAST. SO SO THE CURRENT DESIGN AND SO THE CURRENT DESIGN VERSUS THE PRIOR DESIGN, THE PROJECT VALUE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE PRIOR DESIGN IS. SO THE POINT OF THIS, WHAT I'M TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE HERE IS THERE ISN'T MUCH CHANGE IN, IN AS FAR AS THE PROJECT VALUE OR THE SQUARE FOOT, THE THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE BETWEEN THE OLD AND NEW DESIGN. WE'RE KIND OF IN THE PREVIOUS LOCK COVERAGE. IT'S KIND OF CLOSE. SO THERE ISN'T MUCH CHANGE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST HAVING MORE ECONOMIC FEASIBLE PROJECT THAN THE PRIOR DESIGN. SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 14 OVERLAY DISTRICT, THIS IS HOW. AND SO SECTION TEN DASH 14 006 INTERPRETATION, VIOLATION ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTY PROVISIONS CONFLICTS.IF THE PROVISION OF THIS ARTICLE CONFLICTS WITH THE RESOLUTION OR OTHER ORDINANCE RESOLUTION OR REGULATION, THE PROVISION OF THIS ARTICLE SHALL GOVERN PREVAIL TO THE EXTENT OF THE CONFLICT. SO ON THIS DIAGRAM, THE OVERLAY DISTRICT DISTRICT SITS ABOVE THE BASE ZONING AND AND THE WAY IT'S INTERPRETED IS THAT IT OVERRIDES THE BASE ZONING, IMPLEMENTS SPECIAL STANDARDS, PROVIDES ENHANCED DEVELOPMENT ALLOWANCE. THE BASE ZONING, WHICH IS WITH THE OVERLAY, SITS ON TOP ESTABLISHED IS IS A DEFAULT RULE ON THE BASE ZONING ESTABLISHED BASIC PERMIT USE, AND SETS TYPICAL DENSITY AND SETBACKS. THE FUTURE LAND USE IS MORE, IS NOT IS MORE OF A IS LIKE A IT'S NOT THE LAW. IT'S IT'S MORE OF LIKE A GUIDE. IT'S SO ON THAT ONE. LET ME SEE. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW THE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE OVERLAY AND THE ZONING. SO CHAPTER 14 THE OVERLAY DISTRICT ARTICLE SEE CLEVELAND OVERLAY DISTRICT SECTION TEN DASH 14019 OVERLAY INTENTIONS WHERE THERE ARE CONFLICTS BETWEEN OVERLAY DISTRICT REGULATION AND OTHER REGULATIONS CONTAINED IN THIS CODE, THE OVERLAY REGULATION SHALL GOVERN WHERE THE OVERLAY DISTRICT REGULATION IS EQUALLY RESTRICTED WITH OTHER REGULATION IN THE CODE OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE OVERLAY DISTRICT REGULATION SHALL GOVERN SECTION TEN DASH 14028 OVERLAY TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. MINIMUM LOT AREA IS 1870 FIVE SQUARE
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FEET, WHICH IS 23 LOTS PER ACRE. CHAPTER TWO ZONING REGULATION. ARTICLE C ZONING TEXT BOUNDARIES. SECTION TEN DASH 2069 RT. RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME DISTRICT. MINIMUM LOT AREA IS 3000FT■!S, WHICH IS 14 LOTS PER ACRE. SYNERGY AMONGST LAND USE OVERLAY AND ZONING. THE CLEVELAND OVERLAY IS THE CONTROLLING ZONING FOR THIS PARCEL. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SERVES AS A GUIDE, SERVES AS GUIDANCE, BUT IS NOT REGULATORY AND DOES NOT REDUCE THE DENSITY OR HOUSING TYPE ALLOWED BY THE OVERLAY. BY ORDINANCE, THE OVERLAY SUPERSEDES THE GENERAL LAND USE DESIGNATION, HENCE RETAINING ZONING CONDITION ONE, TWO, THREE AND FIVE AND REMOVING CONDITION FOR NO MORE THAN SEVEN BUILDABLE LOTS IS HARMONIOUS WITH THE INTENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE OVERLAY. IT ELIMINATES ALL CONFUSION, RESOLVES GOVERNING LAWS. CLEARLY AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARCEL. THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU CAN BE SEATED FOR A MINUTE.ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST TO MODIFY ZONING CONDITIONS TO INCREASE THE DENSITY SO YOU CAN YOU HAVE TO CLEAR THE PODIUM SO SOMEONE CAN COME UP IF THEY LIKE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST, INCREASED DENSITY FROM SEVEN TOWNHOME UNITS TO 12 TOWNHOME UNITS AT 1457 GUS THORNHILL. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, IS THERE ANY? OKAY, I'M JOAN LATTIMORE. I LIVE AT 1252 LISLE AVENUE, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR 1457.
ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? HI. YES, I'M MARIA, I'M A 1273 LISLE. I'M IN FAVOR AND I BELIEVE CONDITIONS ARE PUT FORTH. I'M IN FAVOR OF THOSE AS WELL. HI, MAYA. CROSS LISLE AVENUE, REALLY CLOSE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT IN FAVOR OF THE INCREASE. ALSO WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE LANDSCAPING, WITH THE LIGHTING, MAYBE LIKE SMALL TREES TO ADD SOME OF THE GREEN BACK. AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DOES IT LOOK GOOD ALONG IRENE KID, BUT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IT LOOKS GOOD AS WELL, SO THAT THE LANDSCAPING IS KIND OF LIKE ALL AROUND, BUT OVERALL IN FAVOR OF THE INCREASE IN THE DENSITY AND THE OVERALL PROJECT. DOES ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST TO INCREASE DENSITY AT 1457 GUS THORNHILL. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? MADAM CITY CLERK IS THERE. DO WE STILL HAVE TIME? YEAH, THREE MINUTES AND FIVE SECONDS. FINE. AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST TO INCREASE DENSITY FROM SEVEN TOWNHOME UNITS TO 12 TOWNHOME UNITS AT EIGHT 1457 GUS THORNHILL. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST TO INCREASE DENSITY. HELLO, MY NAME IS MICHELLE HEINE AND I AM A RESIDENT OF THE EAST WASHINGTON COMMUNITY. SO I'M FORMALLY CHALLENGING THE RECENT ACTION OF THE EASTPOINTE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONCERNING CASE P20257Z-001- TEN, LOCATED AT 1457 GUS THORNHILL JUNIOR DRIVE. THE COMMISSION ACTED OUTSIDE OF ITS LEGAL AUTHORITY BY APPROVING A REZONING VARIANCE REQUEST THAT IMPROPERLY RELIED ON THE CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO OVERRIDE BASE LAND USE RESTRICTIONS WITHOUT FIRST AMENDING UNDERLYING LAND USE CLASSIFICATION, AND FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FAILED TO MEET THE OVERLAY DESIGNS AND SETBACK STANDARDS GOVERNING LAW.
SECTION TEN 1011. NO VARIANCE MAY BE GRANTED FOR A USE OF LAND OR BUILDING OR STRUCTURE THAT IS PROHIBITED BY THIS ORDINANCE, NO VARIANCE MAY BE GRANTED THAT WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE ALTERED STIPULATION OR CONDITION IMPOSED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL. SECTION TEN DASH 1011 EAST POINT. ANY APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE
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REQUEST MAY BE RECONSIDERED FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS AFTER IT HAS BEEN REJECTED OR DENIED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UNLESS BY THE COURT ORDER OR SETTLEMENT OF LITIGATION APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES. SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES. LAND USE SUPREMACY, THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT CONTROLS PERMITTED USES. THE CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY PROVIDES SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORIZATION, SUPPLEMENTAL DESIGNS, AND DENSITY STANDARDS, BUT CANNOT AUTHORIZE USE OF DENSITIES PROHIBITED BY THE UNDERLYING ZONING BY APPROVING TOWNHOMES AT A DENSITY INCONSISTENT WITH THE BASE LAND USE, THE COMMISSION EFFECTIVELY GRANTED A VARIANCE FOR PROHIBITED USE IN VIOLATION OF SECTION TEN DASH 1011.PROCEDURAL ISSUES. THE COMMISSION INITIALLY VOTED 5 TO 3 TO DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT A PROPER MOTION TO RECONSIDER. THEY REOPENED DEBATE AND APPROVED THE REQUEST.
THIS IS ACTION. THIS ACTION VIOLATES SECTION TEN DASH 1011, WHICH BARS RECONSIDERATION OF A DENIED VARIANCE FOR SIX MONTHS ABSENT COURT ORDER OR COUNCIL APPROVED SETTLEMENT DESIGN VIOLATIONS. THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED LACKED CRITICAL CRITICAL DETAILS. THE OVERLAY LAYOUT PRESENTED. THE COMMISSION FAILED TO MEET DESIGN STANDARDS UNDER RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN THE CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY, RESIDENTIAL ZONING SECTION TEN DASH 2069 REQUIRES MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE IN FRONT YARD SETBACKS ORIENTED TO THE PUBLIC STREET.
TOWNHOUSE UNITS MUST FACE THE STREET TO SATISFY FRONTAGE AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY SECTION 1014 028. UNIT ENTRANCES SHALL BE CONNECTED TO A PUBLIC SIDEWALK OR WALKWAY THAT CONNECTS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS MUST PROVIDE, AT LEAST IN REAR LOADING GARAGES, MAINTAINING A FRONT YARD FREE FROM CURB CUTS AND STREET FACING SECTION TEN 1011 PROHIBITS VARIANCES FOR USES OR DESIGNS BARRED BY ORDINANCE.
PUBLIC SAFETY AND DESIGN INTENT. ALLEY FACING UNITS VIOLATE CPTED PRINCIPLES. EYES ON THE STREET REDUCING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD OVERSIGHT. VARIANCE PROHIBITED.
ANY ATTEMPT TO APPROVE ALLEY FACING UNITS CONSTITUTES VARIANCE FOR PROHIBITED DESIGN STANDARD, WHICH IS BARRED UNDER SECTION TEN 1011. FOR CONCLUSION, BOTH RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND CLEVELAND AVENUE OVERLAY DISTRICT REQUIRE TOWNHOUSE UNITS TO FACE THE PUBLIC STREET, WITH ENTRANCES CONNECTED TO THE SIDEWALK, RIGHT OF WAY AND ALLEY STRICTLY FOR REAR LOADED PARKING AND SERVICE ACCESS, THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE ALLEY FACING UNIT IS INVALID. THE LAND USE AND OVERLAY PROVISIONS DO NOT PERMIT SUCH ORIENTATION, NOR VARIANCE MAY LEGALLY AUTHORIZE IT. THEREFORE, THE APPROVAL SHOULD BE VOIDED. THE APPLICANT MUST FIRST SEEK A LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM CITY COUNCIL ONLY AFTER THE LAND USE IS LEGALLY CHANGED MAY OVERLAY STANDARDS BE APPLIED. EVEN THEN, HE MUST REDESIGN THE SITE PLAN TO COMPLY WITH OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST? ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. HELLO. HI, MY NAME IS ALEX PETROS. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF GASTON HILL JUNIOR DRIVE FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS AND SEVERAL YEARS. THROUGHOUT MY CHILDHOOD. MY FATHER HAS BEEN A RESIDENT FOR OVER 25 YEARS, AND MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS IS ABOUT THE CHARACTER AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS THIS HOUSING DEVELOPER SAID EARLIER, IT MATCHES THE STYLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IN FACT IT DOESN'T. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SET UP MOSTLY THROUGH SINGLE FAMILY SHOTGUN STYLE HOMES, AND AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PICTURES THAT HE DISPLAYED IT, IT DOESN'T MATCH AT ALL. ALONG WITH THAT, ADDING EXPANDING TO 12 UNITS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES MORE VEHICLE TRIPS, ADDING CONGESTION TO A NARROW STREET NOT DESIGNED FOR SUCH VALUE. THERE'S SEVERAL KIDS PLAYING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT MUCH CONGESTION ISN'T, AND TRAFFIC ISN'T NECESSARILY SAFE FOR THE KIDS. AND ALONG WITH THAT, THE SPILLOVER INTO THE STREETS. THAT ADDS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN FOR POLICE OFFICERS, AMBULANCES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND YEAH, I THINK
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THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST TO INCREASE DENSITY FROM SEVEN TOWNHOME UNITS TO 12 TOWNHOME UNITS AT 1457 GUS THORNHILL. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? THE APPLICANT DIDN'T RESERVE ANY TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SO, MADAM CITY CLERK, I I'M. EXCUSE ME. COUNSEL WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO TAKE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. THERE'S A NEED TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING. UNLESS THERE'S GOING TO BE A DENIAL.COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER, MADAM, MAY I MAKE THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM, MADAM MAYOR, COUNCILOR BUTLER, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ABOVE ISSUE. SECOND THE MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN. COUNCILWOMAN BUTLER. YES? MAY I HAVE MISS SMITH COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. SO, REGARDING THE CONCERNS VOICED BY MISS HUNT. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THE ALLEYWAY, THE STREET AND THOSE THINGS THAT SHE MENTIONED THAT ARE IN OUR RULES THAT WE'RE VIOLATING OR THEY'RE NOT? AND COULD YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT THE FIVE THREE VOTE TO IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE AND SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING? WHAT I HEARD WAS COMMENTARY FOR VARIANCE PETITION. THIS APPLICATION IS A MODIFICATION TO A CONDITION OF ZONING FOR A REZONING PETITION THAT CAME THROUGH IN 2023. IN MY OPINION, THE STATEMENTS WERE NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS APPLICATION. IN REFERENCE TO THE ALLEYWAYS AND THE SITE PLANNING OF THE PROPOSED CASE THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF DURING THE SITE PLANNING AND LAND DISTURBANCE PROCESS, AND BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT WE PLACED ON IT, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT THE CITY HAS. SO WHAT ABOUT THE RULE WHERE THE TOWNHOMES HAVE TO FACE THE STREET? AS STATED, THE THE CONDITIONS THAT WE PLACED ON IT, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND CODES. SO DOES THAT MEAN HE'S GOING TO PUT IN A NEW STREET? HE HASN'T SUBMITTED FOR HIS LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT? RIGHT NOW, THE PETITION BEFORE YOU IS TO INCREASE THE DENSITY FROM SEVEN UNITS TO 12 UNITS. WHAT ABOUT THE 5 TO 3 VOTE? SHE MENTIONED THE FIVE AND THREE VOTE THAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT HAPPENED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE LEGAL TO TO SPEAK ON THAT. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT. THEY TOOK A VOTE, THEN THEY TOOK ANOTHER VOTE. AND SO I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING LEGAL EXPLAIN THE VOTING PROCESS. BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, IT WAS DONE APPROPRIATELY. THANK YOU.
COUNCILOR. YES, THANK YOU, MISS SMITH, AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER.
THEY ALSO HELPED TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. I HEARD MISS HUNT'S CONCERNS, AND IT SOUNDED THAT THEY WERE MOSTLY RELATED TO A VARIANCE REQUEST, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS CONNECTED TO ORDINANCE 200-023, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2023. AND THAT'S THE REZONING. WAS IT REZONING AND A CONCURRENT VARIANCE MISS SMITH AT THAT TIME?
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BASED ON THE ORDINANCE, IT WAS A REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS OUR I ONE ZONING DISTRICT TO RT RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME DISTRICT. IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT A CONCURRENT VARIANCE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ORIGINAL ZONING IN 2020.OKAY, SO THAT MAY HAVE BEEN JUST A COMPLETELY SEPARATE CASE OUTSIDE OF THE REZONING BASED ON THIS ORDINANCE. USUALLY IF THERE IS A CONCURRENT VARIANCE, IT WOULD STATE THAT IN THE RECORD. AND IT'S NOT STATED HERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT ALL OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED THROUGH THE QUESTIONS OF COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND AT THIS TIME I'LL YIELD. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED ADDING IN THE LIGHTING AND THE LANDSCAPING. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD GO TOWARDS SOLICITOR INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY MISS CORNWELL. SO DO WE NEED TO SPECIFICALLY STATE LANDSCAPING ALONG IRENE KID AND GUS THORNHILL? OR IS THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN? OKAY? THE WAY THAT IT IS WRITTEN MAY SUFFICE, BUT I THINK IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SPECIFICALLY STATE THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ALONG IRENE KID. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING CONDITION MODIFICATION FOR ORDINANCE NUMBER 200023 TO INCREASE THE DENSITY FROM SEVEN TOWNHOME UNITS TO 12 TOWNHOME UNITS LOCATED AT 1457 GUS THORNHILL DRIVE WITH CONDITIONS WITH AMENDING CONDITION NUMBER FOUR FROM 7 TO 12 AND CONDITION NUMBER SIX TO EXPLICITLY STATE THAT THE LANDSCAPING ALONG IRENE KID AND GUS THORNHILL AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S IT. SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT HE WANTS TO REDUCE THE PRICE BY KEEPING THE THE SIZE, BUT THE LEGAL AND THE PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS GIVE ME PAUSE TO SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT OUR PLANNING AND ZONING ATTORNEY TO BE HERE TO GIVE US SOME ADVICE. SO I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE VOTING ISSUE AND WHAT LEGAL LIABILITY THAT PLACES AND WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENT ARE WE SAYING IF THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STREET AND THEY'RE NOT BUILDING THESE ON, THEY'RE NOT FRONTING THE STREET. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS WITH THIS AT THIS TIME. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES.
HEARING COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER'S CONCERNS AROUND THAT. MISS SMITH, I THINK THAT IF YOU COULD JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU WERE STATING THAT IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT, THAT ANY OF THOSE PLANS WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO ALL OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE CITY IF IT REQUIRES THAT THE PROPERTY FACES OR FRONTS THE STREET, THAT IT CANNOT MOVE FORWARD UNLESS THAT HAPPENS. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION
[VIII.2. P2025RZ-001-10 Rezoning Request for Property Located at 1416 E Vesta Ave from R-1A (Urban Residential) Zoning District to R-2 (Two- Family Dwelling) Zoning District (PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED)]
CARRIES. NEXT UP IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1416 EAST VISTA AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, TO R-2 TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ZONING DISTRICT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MR. JONES WILL OPEN UP THE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE OVERVIEW FROM STAFF. GO AHEAD, MISS SMITH. THANK YOU. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1416 EAST VISTA AVENUE, APPLICATION KNOWN AS P2025 R.S. THAT'S THE 01-10.THE APPLICANT IS HORACE WALKER. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON 0.193 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM R-1, A TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-2 TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. CASE TYPE IS A REZONING. THE FUTURE LAND USE
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DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS TRADITIONAL ■URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH ALLOWS FOR DWELLING UNITS UP TO FOUR, 4 TO 8 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE REVISION THE THE REVISED. I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME. IN REFERENCE TO THE. TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS ARE R-1, RL, R1, R2, AND R2. THIS PROPERTY IS REQUESTED A REZONING TO R-2, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN THE TRADITIONAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICT IN.ON MAY 20TH, 2013, THE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT TWO HOUSES DOWN WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 1402 EAST FIESTA DRIVE, WAS APPROVED FOR A REZONING FROM R1 TO R2 AND JUST TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, THESE PROPERTIES ALONG THIS STREET ARE LAND USE. CURRENTLY DUPLEX UNITS. THEY ARE ALL TWO FAMILY UNITS ALONG THIS FESTIVE STREET. THEY ARE ASKING AND THEY HAVE ASKED FOR APPROVAL FOR R1 TO R2, WHICH IS WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR AS WELL. A PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET. PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND WENT THROUGH WITH THE APPROVAL ON MAY 20TH, 2013 FOR A SIMILAR SITUATION. TWO ONE HOUSE DOWN AND THIS THIS APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR THE SAME AGAIN. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. AND THIS. THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT THAT HAS THE SITUATION WHERE IT IS STANDING. LAND USES OF DUPLEXES OR TWO FAMILY HOMES.
AND WE PLAN TO LOOK AT THIS IN IN A BROADER SCALE WHEN WE UNDERGO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE REWRITE. SO AGAIN, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND STAFF DID AS WELL. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES. CAN YOU COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME, MADAM CITY CLERK, AND GO AHEAD AND START THE CLOCK. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. YES, MY NAME IS HORACE WALKER AND I'M JUST REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING OF MY PROPERTY. THIS IS SOLELY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES. IT'S A POST-CLOSING CONDITION WITH MY LENDER. AND SO WE'RE JUST REQUESTING TO GET IT REZONED TO ALIGN WITH WHAT IS INTENDED USES, WHICH IS A MULTIFAMILY UNIT. THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO STEP TO THE SIDE, SIR? ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1416 EAST VISTA AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO ZONING DISTRICT R-2 TWO FAMILY DWELLING. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR THERE. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1416 EAST VISTA AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO R-2 TWO FAMILY DWELLING ZONING DISTRICT. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST AND GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE? IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE, MADAM MAYOR. YES. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM? I'M LOOKING FOR THE ORDINANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'M LOOKING FOR THE ORDINANCE. AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S A MOTION TO ADOPT THE.
IT'S THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT. A REZONING PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1416 EAST VISTA AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, TO R-2 TWO FAMILY DWELLING ZONING DISTRICT. YES, I DO MOVE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT BY REZONING PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1416 EAST VISTA AVENUE FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, TO R-2 TWO FAMILY DWELLING ZONING DISTRICT.
SECOND AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED?
[IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW PUBLIC COMMENTS. MADAM CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING? WE HAVE 15 PUBLIC COMMENTS. HOW MANY? 15. OKAY. THANK YOU. PUBLIC.THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA. THE CITY CLERK SHALL
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MAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT FORM AVAILABLE IN THE CITY HALL LOBBY PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. ALL SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A COMMENT FORM AND PROVIDE A COMPLETED COMMENT FORM TO THE CITY CLERK BETWEEN 6 P.M. AND 6:25 P.M. PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.SUBJECT MAY INCLUDE ANY SUBJECT OF CHOICE. THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER. SHOULD THE SPEAKER DESIRE TO GIVE HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, HE OR SHE MAY DO SO BY NOTATING WHAT SPEAKER SHALL RECEIVE. RECEIVE THE TIME ON HIS OR HER COMMENT FORM, PROVIDED THAT THE SPEAKER, GIVEN HIS OR HER FORM THAT HE OR SHE GIVES ALL OF INDICATES ON HIS OR HER FORM THAT HE OR SHE GIVES ALL OF, OR PART OF HIS OR HER TIME UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME.
SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA, SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING. QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EAST POINT RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER.
SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES OF DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITY SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUAL OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE FOREGOING. MADAM CITY CLERK, YOU CAN CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER FIRST. WE HAVE MISS BEVERLY CARTER. THAT ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M HERE. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A ZONING MEETING TOMORROW IN REGARD TO THE ICE PLANT THAT'S GOING TO BE OR PROPOSED FOR OAKLEY STREET, BUT I WANTED IT TO BE ON RECORD TONIGHT AT CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL ARE THE ARBITRATORS FOR THIS MATTER, IF IT COMES TO THAT. IN REGARD TO THE ZONING, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT HAS OR I THINK SHOULD BE CLEAR IS WHO IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE, IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, OR IS THE PERSON THAT'S RENTING THE PROPERTY? BECAUSE WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM, IT RESTS ON THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE EPA GUIDELINES, THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE GUIDELINES REQUIRE THAT THEY OBTAIN PERMITS. SO THE QUESTION AGAIN IS GOING TO BE WHO IS THE OWNER AND WHO IS GOING TO OBTAIN THE PERMITS. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THERE, IT STILL FALLS ON THE OWNER. THERE ARE A LOT OF THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THERE. THE NOTIFICATION WAS NOT GIVEN TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ON WOODLAND CIRCLE, ONLY A FEW OF THE RESIDENTS. THERE'S ALSO, I BELIEVE, A CREEK OR SOME OTHER ESTUARY BEHIND OAKLEY, BETWEEN OAKLEY AND AND WOODLAND CIRCLE, AND THAT AFFECTS WILDLIFE, YOU KNOW, FISH AND AMPHIBIANS AND ALSO BIRDS THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THAT COME INTO THAT AREA. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES INVOLVING THIS. AND AMMONIA. AMMONIA IS ONE OF THE KEY REFRIGERANTS OR ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS. IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS ICE ALEIX OF AMMONIA IS FATAL. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY ARE MONITORING IT, WHAT TYPE OF SENSORS THEY HAVE, AND WE SHOULD ALL BE AWARE OF THAT.
RIGHT NOW IN JEFFERSON PARK, WE HAVE THE CREOSOTE PLANT, WE HAVE THE PAINT PLANT, AND NOW YOU ARE ADDING ANOTHER CHEMICAL. IF THERE IS ONE CHEMICAL SPILL, IT CAN AFFECT THE OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL. BUT AMMONIA IS A GAS OR AT LEAST IT BEGINS AS A GAS. GASES. IT'S HARD TO TELL WHEN THEY'RE IN THE AIR UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS. AND LITERALLY BIRDS CAN FALL FROM THE SKY AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ALL OF OUR PETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO AMMONIA IS A VERY FATAL GAS AND IT SHOULD BE MONITORED VERY CAREFULLY. I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED ANOTHER INDUSTRY AND ANOTHER CHEMICAL INTRODUCED INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, LET ALONE EAST POINT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE. DOCTOR WILLIAM BRYANT, MISS PATRICIA LOVETT, AND MISS PHYLLIS JACKSON SMITH.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PHYLLIS JACKSON SMITH, AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR
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MEADOWLARK ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND TO MY RIGHT IS DOCTOR WILLIAM BRYANT, THE PRESIDENT OF OUR ASSOCIATION. AND COMING UP, MISS PATRICIA LOVETT, THE SECRETARY FOR MEADOWLARK ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR APPRECIATION FOR TWO OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS, SHARON SHROPSHIRE AND JOSHUA BUTLER. AND FOR IN OUR APPRECIATION FOR THE UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF THE MAYOR OF EAST POINT, DEANA HOLIDAY INGRAHAM. SO I WILL LET DOCTOR BRYANT CONTINUE AND PASS THIS. GO AHEAD, DOCTOR BRIAN, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I JUST WANT TO SHOW MY APPRECIATION, MY HEARTFELT APPRECIATION FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR DELIVERY ON EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR IN MEADOWLARK. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT COME TO MIND FOR ME IS HOW HOW DILIGENT YOU WERE IN WORKING WITH US TO GET ANSWERS REGARDING GEORGIA POWER. THAT WAS A A PROJECT THAT WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT. DIDN'T HAVE ANY ANYONE TO EVEN CALL. SO COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE AND OUR ILLUSTRIOUS MAYOR, DEANA HOLIDAY INGRAHAM CAME FORWARD AND DID SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER, FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE. ALL OF YOUR ATTENDANCE DID NOT GO WITHOUT US KNOWING THAT YOU GAVE UP YOUR TIME TO COME AND BE WITH US AND FEEL QUESTIONS AND ANSWER EVERYTHING THAT WE ASK FOR AND FOR THAT. WE SHOW OUR DEEPEST APPRECIATION. THANK YOU. WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE LEAVING US. BUT YOU'RE NOT LEAVING US. YOU'LL BE HERE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. AND FOR THE ONES WHO DON'T KNOW THE AUDIENCE, OUR MEETINGS ARE HELD EVERY MONTH, THE FIRST THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. WE DON'T MISS, BUT ONE MONTH WE DO NOT HAVE A MEETING, WHICH IS IN JULY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, OUR MEETINGS ARE HELD EVERY FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO YOU, MISS INGRAM, MAYOR INGRAM, COUNCILMAN BUTLER AND COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. UP NEXT WE HAVE MISS THERESA NELSON. HI, MR. GRAVES, HOW YOU DOING THIS EVENING? IN ORDER TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP WITH THE CITY CLERK. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE HER COME TALK WITH YOU. WAS NUMBER TWO. YOUR FORM WAS NUMBER TWO, MADAM CITY CLERK, DID YOU MISS MISTER GRAVES? SHE SAID SHE HAD YOU AS NUMBER SEVEN, MR. GRAVES. SO WE GOT.WE HAVE YOU ON THE LIST. THERE ARE TWO MORE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU. WHO DID YOU CALL? I'M SORRY, MADAM CITY CLERK, MISS THERESA NELSON. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THERESA NELSON, 1732 NEELY AVENUE. I WANTED TO FIRST CORRECT AN ERROR IN A STATEMENT BY WARD COUNCILWOMAN AT A PREVIOUS MEETING. EASTPOINTE'S TREE ORDINANCE PASSED UNDER FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNNY FOWLER, WHO WAS TWO COUNT, WHO SERVED TWO COUNCILS BEFORE ME, I WOULD I DID WORK ON IT WITH PLANNING ON THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS PATTERNED AFTER THE CITY OF DECATUR'S. IT REQUIRED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO HAVE A LIST OF AT LEAST THREE ARBORISTS AT A REDUCED RATE FOR CITIZENS TO USE HERE IN EASTPOINTE FOR TREE GUIDANCE.
HAVING USED ARBORIST SERVICE MYSELF OVER THE YEARS, THE RATE I PAID WAS $100 TO 150, WHICH WAS GENERALLY HIGH. MY NEIGHBOR JUST PAID $75 FOR THEIR REPORT. THE COST FOR TREATMENT REMOVAL IS THE BIG COST. FOR EXAMPLE, A MAJOR TREE REMOVAL REQUIRING STREET CLOSURE AND A CRANE TO
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REMOVE IT AWAY FROM THE HOUSE AND OTHER PROPERTY WILL COST BETWEEN 8000 AND $10,000. THUS, THE ARBOR HISTORY WOULD BE LESS THAN 1%. HOWEVER, PLANNING, NEVER FULLY COMPILED, COMPLIED WITH THE ORDINANCE, LEAVING RESIDENTS CONFUSED AND SEEKING ASSISTANCE. WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, I TALKED TO A SENIOR RESIDENT CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE COST. I SUGGESTED SHE CONTACT AN ARBORIST. SORRY, IT'S NOT WORKING. WELL, SORRY, WHICH SHE DID. AFTER SHE HAD MET WITH THE ARBORIST, SHE CALLED ME BACK VERY HAPPY, STATING THAT THE ARBORIST WAS AFFORDABLE, DETERMINED HER TREE WAS HEALTHY AND SHOULD BE PRUNED AT A MUCH LOWER COST THAN REMOVAL. IT ALSO DIDN'T REQUIRE A PERMIT. SHE WAS GRATEFUL. IN FACT, NOT ONLY HAS PLANNING NOT HELPFUL, BUT PUBLIC WORKS WAS ADVISING CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT IF A MAJOR TREE WAS CUT FOUR FEET FROM THE GROUND, NO PERMIT WOULD EVEN BE REQUIRED, WHICH IS OF COURSE UNTRUE. I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE RECENTLY ELECTED CANDIDATES, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A MARK OF COHESIVE COUNCIL MEETING AND SHORTER TO TACKLE SERIOUS ISSUES SUCH AS STABILIZING OUR BUDGET. MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HANUKKAH, GOOD KWANZAA AND HOPEFULLY A BETTER NEW YEAR FOR EASTPOINTE. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS MICHELLE HUNT. MICHELLE. MICHELLE HUNT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEE MISS SHARON LOVETT. THE MAYOR NEEDS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR SHARON LOVETT. BLOW DRYER. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT'S GOING OUT. THANK YOU, JOSHUA, FOR ALL THAT YOU DID, THE SENIOR BALL AND EVERYTHING IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I WANT TO GIVE PRAISE TO OUR MAYOR, DINA HOLIDAY INGRAM, WHICH SHE STARTED OUT FOCUSING ON EQUITY AND INCLUSIVE GROWTH. AND SHE LED AND INITIATED THE LOCAL FOOD SYSTEMS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SMART INFRASTRUCTURE, COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE THE POINT AND ADDRESSING BLIGHT. REMEMBER OKAY. AND WHILE SECURING FEDERAL FUNDS FOR WATER PROJECTS AND SERVING ON THE NATIONAL BOARD LIKE THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, THE NLC TO BRING BETTER, BEST PRACTICE BACK TO EASTERN POINT IN 2018 AND 19, OUR MAYOR WAS NAMED ONE OF THE ATLANTA ATLANTA'S TOP 100 BLACK WOMEN.SHE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH FULTON MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS. SHE WAS ON A BOARD MEMBER ON THE GMA, AND SHE DID SO MUCH, AND SHE WAS AN ADVOCATE FOR CHILDREN'S LEADERSHIP ROLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. WE LOVE YOU AND WE WILL MISS YOU DEARLY. AND FOR SHARON SHROPSHIRE. SHARON HAS BEEN WARD EIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER FOR 12 LONG YEARS. SHE PROVIDED SOLUTIONS TO KEEP EASTPOINT FINANCIALLY SOUND, WHICH LED TO A BOND, A CREDIT. SHE PROMOTED EQUAL HIRING OPPORTUNITIES TO EASTPOINT RESIDENTS THROUGH THE LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE. SHE SUPPORTED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE WORST PROPERTIES TO REDUCE BLIGHT. SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DEMOLITION OF DILAPIDATED APARTMENTS ON WEST WOODBURY. SHE REINSTATED THE LEAF VACUUM TRUCKS. OH, SHE JUST DID A LOT. SHE VOTED TO PROVIDE POLICE AND FIRE EMPLOYEES MONETARY INCENTIVES, INCENTIVES, AND SHE LED EFFORTS TO ENSURE 85% OF EASTPOINTE STREETS WERE INCLUDED IN FULTON COUNTY PEACE BLOCK. SHE WAS AN ADVOCATE FOR EASTPOINT FIVE YEAR CRIME PLAN DESIGNED TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND SHE WAS ALWAYS IN THE COMMUNITY HELPING OTHERS FOR THE FOOD GIVEAWAY THE TURKEYS, THE HAM, ETCETERA. BACK TO SCHOOL GIVEAWAYS, THE HALLOWEEN EVENTS AND ALSO ISSUES WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT LIVE IN SEPARATE WARDS. BUT SHARON HELPED THEM, NOT THEIR WARD LEADER. MY FAVORITE WAS THE WW
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FOR EIGHT YEARS THAT BROUGHT SO MANY PEOPLE OUT. THANK YOU SHARON FOR A GREAT JOB YOU DID FOR 12 YEARS. WE LOVE YOU AND WE'LL MISS YOU AND Y'ALL WILL GET A GIFT NEXT WEEK WHEN I GET MY SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK. MATE. MAKE SURE IT'S NOT OVER $25. NEXT WE HAVE DOCTOR SANDRA FOSTER. HELLO. I AM ALSO HERE TO SAY FAREWELL TO SOME FOLKS. I'M GOING TO MISS YOU GUYS. OUR DANCING MAYOR. GOODNESS GRACIOUS, SHROPSHIRE, YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU. BUT JOSHUA, YOU MY GUY. YOU ARE. I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I SPENT MORE TIME WORKING WITH JOSHUA THAN ANYONE ELSE.BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY. BUT WHATEVER IT WAS, IT WAS FUN. JOSHUA DID WELL BECAUSE HE DID A LOT WITH SENIORS. HE DID SENIOR SUMMIT, HE DID THE COLD, DID THE SILVER FOX BALL WITH MISS GLORIA JENKINS SITTING BACK THERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE DID WAS HE WORKED WITH HOME DEPOT TO GET THEIR WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THEIR WASHERS AND DRYERS BACK, FOR WHATEVER REASON, JOSHUA WOULD, WOULD THEN GIVE THEM TO THE SENIORS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THAT, BUT THANK YOU BECAUSE I GOT A WASHING MACHINE. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND ALSO ONE TIME I MY STUFF GOES THROUGH, MY UTILITIES ARE PAID FROM MY ACCOUNT. BUT THEN I GET THIS THING, A BILL SAYING THAT I WAS OVERDUE AND THEY WERE GOING TO CHARGE ME. I CALLED UP COUNCILMAN BUTLER. NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY OF THEM AT ALL. I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE. I HANG OUT A LOT IN EAST POINT, AND I SEE YOU AT ALL THE EVENTS. AND HE ALSO GETS UP AND DANCE. HE DOESN'T DANCE AS GOOD AS A MAYOR, BUT HE DOES GET UP AND HE GETS UP AND DANCES WITH US. BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. I ENJOY EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL. EVERY TIME I RUN INTO SOME OF YOU ALL, YOU KIND OF HALFWAY MIGHT KNOW WHAT I LOOK LIKE. AND YOU LISTEN TO ME A LITTLE BIT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW I APPRECIATE THAT I'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS. I PLAN ON BEING HERE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO RUNNING INTO YOU ALL THAT ARE LEAVING SOMEWHERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OUR NEW FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. UP NEXT WE HAVE GORDON DRAVES. MR. DRAVES, IT'S YOUR TURN. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM GORDON DRAVES, 2528 LEICESTER STREET. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR A THIRD OF A CENTURY, 33 YEARS AND FOUR MONTHS AND COUNTING. I RECEIVED MY PROPERTY TAX BILL WITH A SURPRISE AND THE PART OF IT THAT HAD TO DO ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES, AND I WOULD OWE ZERO BECAUSE I'M OVER 70. THE STORMWATER CHARGE WAS REASONABLE. BUT THE REASON I AM HERE TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE BLIGHTED PROPERTY FEE OF $6,648.72. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS REASONABLE. IT IS ABOUT TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT I HAD PAID FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS OF ABOUT $660. I SPENT OVER $20,000 IN REPAIRS ON THE HOUSE, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1900, 125 YEARS AGO. I THOUGHT THOSE REPAIRS WOULD GET ME OUT OF BLIGHTED STATUS. I EVEN APPROACHED THE TAX DEPARTMENT AND DID A REFUND REQUEST, BUT IT WAS NO. I CALLED TODAY THE NUMBER ON THIS PAGE, BUT ONLY GOT AN ANSWER MACHINE. I LEFT A MESSAGE. NO CALL BACK YET. I THINK THE $6,648.72 IS A LITTLE HIGH. I REQUEST AN ADJUSTMENT. ANY AMOUNT I WILL PAY ON THE $6,758.52 BILL WITH A CREDIT
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CARD WILL ALSO INCUR A CREDIT CARD FEE OF 3 OR 4% MORE. BECAUSE OF MY LIMITED INCOME, $967 PER MONTH, OWING ABOUT $15,000 ON THOSE CREDIT CARDS TO PAY FOR REPAIRS, PLEASE CONSIDER ADJUSTING THE BLIGHTED PROPERTY TAX FEE WARNING TO OTHERS. THE BLIGHTED PROPERTY IS A BIG DEAL IN EASTPOINTE. THANK YOU MAYOR, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. SHARP AND MR. BUTLER AND YOU OF ALL, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS CITY OF EASTPOINTE. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. YES. UP NEXT WE HAVE ALEX PETROS. NO, ALEX. PETROS.OKAY. PATRICIA IVEY. YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. GOOD AFTERNOON. AND SOME PEOPLE KNOW ME AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T. BUT I'VE BEEN OUT HERE A LONG TIME, LIKE 36 YEARS. SO I DONE SEEN THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY. I'VE SEEN IT ALL. SO I AM HERE TO THANK. MY NAME IS PATRICIA IVEY AND I LIVE ON THE LOW DRIVE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO MAYOR HOLIDAY INGRAM, DEANA HOLIDAY INGRAHAM, AND TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN SHARON SHROPSHIRE. THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN EXTRA IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. THEY ARE TRUE SERVANTS, TRUE HEART SERVANTS, AND THEY LOVE THIS CITY. AND I JUST WANT TO BRING UP A FEW THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE HAS DONE. LET'S START WITH WIND DOWN. LET'S GO WITH MLK DAY OF SERVICE. HOW ABOUT FREE ANDROIDS TABLETS? HOW ABOUT FREE FOOD GIVEAWAYS ALL DURING THE COVID? HOW ABOUT THE HOME DELIVERY FOR DISABLED CITIZENS? HOW ABOUT THE FATHER'S DAY? FOOD? THAT WAS GREAT. AND THE BINGO NIGHT? THAT WAS EXCELLENT. I WON SOME PRIZES. WE DID GOOD. YOU DID GOOD. AND ALSO, MAYOR, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR THANKSGIVING BRUNCH. THAT CORN PUDDING ON POINT. SO I JUST BASICALLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT RETIREMENT BECAUSE YOU DESERVE IT. UP NEXT WE HAVE PATRICIA IVEY. THAT WAS PATRICIA IVEY. MR. GREG FEY. HEY, I WON'T BE LIKE SISTER IVEY, BUT I, I WILL COME TONIGHT TO JUST SAY I WANT TO THANK YOU. SHARON. YOU AND I WORKED TOGETHER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE SERVICE. AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE YOU UNTIL YOU'RE GONE. AND AFTER YOU'RE GONE, THEN THEY'LL APPRECIATE YOU. THEY'LL UNDERSTAND YOUR WORK AND YOUR LABOR OF LOVE. AND YOU TOO, MAY, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU CAME IN BEING A CITY COUNCILMAN AND COUNCILWOMAN AND MOVED ON UP TO BEING MAYOR AND PROVED TO BE A GOOD MAYOR, ONE THAT LOVED PEOPLE LOOKING OUT FOR THE LEAST. THE LESS THE LOST AND THE LEFT OUT. AND JOSH, I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE YOU'RE A DECENT GUY. YOU REALLY ARE. BUT SOMETIMES YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU OVER YOU OVER COMMIT, YOU KNOW, AND BUT I, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF HELPING PEOPLE. AND I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS TIME IF YOU I KNOW IT'S I'M OUT OF ORDER, BUT I'M GOING TO PRAY. I'M GOING TO PRAY BECAUSE I AM A PREACHER AND I'M GOING TO PRAY. LET LET US PRAY. NOW, GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THESE COUNCIL INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SERVED THIS CITY, WHO HAVE GIVEN COUNTLESS OF HOURS AND TIME AND DEDICATION, LEAVING THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR LOVED ONE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. GOD, WE ASK YOU TO KEEP THEM IN
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THE HOLLOW OF YOUR HAND. HELP THEM TO STILL BE COMMITTED NOT ONLY TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT, BUT TO THIS COUNTRY, TO THIS NATION. FOR WE ARE IN A TURMOIL, AND WE NEED STRONG AND COMMITTED LEADERSHIP. AND FOR THAT WE SAY THANK YOU. IN THE NAME OF JESUS WE PRAY. AMEN, AMEN. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS DOROTHY HALL. WHO. HAS COME BEHIND THE PREACHER. I HAVE TWO PARTS TONIGHT. MY NAME IS DOROTHY HALL, RESIDENT AT 1660 WOODBURY AVENUE. AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS. SO THAT DOESN'T TELL HOW OLD I AM THOUGH. FIRST PART IS, WHOEVER SENT THIS TO MY ADDRESS, THE CURRENT RESIDENT AT 1660 WOODBURY AVENUE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY NEXT TIME PLEASE PUT A RETURN ADDRESS SO I CAN RETURN IT TO THE SENDER. THIS WAS A NEGATIVE PLAY ON OTHER PEOPLE, AND I'M NOT ABOUT THAT. I'M ABOUT BEING SINCERE AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF EAST POINT CITY, WHERE I'VE LIVED FOR 40 YEARS. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING GOOD TO SAY, DON'T SAY NOTHING AT ALL. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I HOPE IN 2026 THAT MORE PEOPLE WILL LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER POSITIVELY FOR ALL PEOPLE. AS MY SECOND COMMENT FOR THE MAYOR, SHARON AND JOSHUA BUTLER, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. THEY WORKED EVEN THOUGH JOSHUA AND SHARON IS LORD, IS CITY COUNCIL AT LARGE. I WORK, I LIVE IN BE.WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT CHANGES IN BE OF ASSIGNED COUNCILMAN, BUT EACH TIME THAT I CALL COUNCILMAN BUTLER AND SHARON SHROPSHIRE WITH THE CONCERN, THEY WAS RIGHT THERE WITH A SMILE ON THEIR FACE AND A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED MORE WHEN WE SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY BOTH HAVE A HEART FOR SENIORS, AND THEY DO THE WELFARE CHECK TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING GOOD. I'VE HAD CARS OR STOPPED BY FROM THEM. I DON'T MIND YOU STOPPING BY AS LONG AS YOU NOT STOPPING BY WITH NO MESS. I'M ABOUT POSITIVITY.
I'VE. I WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WAY. AND I LEARNED THAT THE WAY YOU TREAT OTHERS IS THE WAY THAT YOU CARE ABOUT YOURSELF. BOTH OF THEM HAVE INTEGRITY. AND REGARDLESS TO WHAT HAPPENED FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, GOD HAS A DIFFERENT PLAN FOR THEM. AND DON'T EVER GIVE YOUR INTEGRITY FOR ANYBODY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOD IS LOOKING AT. YOUR HEART AND YOUR HEART SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU IN THE WORK THAT YOU DO FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN, THE YOUNG FOLKS. AND WE NEED TO GET ON BOARD AND GET SOME THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT IN THIS CITY. PICK UP THE TRASH IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT IN PEOPLE. AMEN. NEXT WE HAVE SANAA OR SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED IT. SANA. SANA.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT, HORACE WALKER, THANK YOU. YES. NO. HORACE WALKER. JACKIE. GEORGE. MISS.
JACKIE. GEORGE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JACKIE. GEORGE AND I LIVE AT 2357 RIDGECREST LANE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA. AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 43 YEARS. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO BE LONG. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MAYOR INGRAM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOSHUA BUTLER. I WILL SAY, AND I HAVE TO PUT THIS IN HERE TO MARY MASSARA. SO THANK YOU. BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK WHEN WHEN I KNOW EVERYBODY SPEAKING AS A WHOLE, I WANT TO SPEAK FOR MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. WHENEVER I HAD AN ISSUE, LIKE WITH MY FIRE HYDRANT. AND I'LL REMEMBER THAT ISSUE WITH MY FIRE HYDRANT, I CALLED SHARON AND EVEN THOUGH IT TOOK US SOME YEARS, WE GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF. SO THANK YOU. I KNOW HOW YOU LOOKED OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY ANYTIME, EVEN WITH EVEN WHEN THE SNOW WAS THERE AND THE LIKE, THE STREETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS AROUND, I CALLED YOU AND THEN THE TEN 15 MINUTES LATER WE HAD OUR
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POWER BACK ON. SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO THAT YOU WENT OVER AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS OF EAST POINT WAS TAKEN CARE OF. AND, COUNCILMAN BUTLER, WHEN I WAS OUT, YOU WOULD ALWAYS COME BY WHENEVER I WAS IN AN EVENT, AND I SAW YOU WOULD ALWAYS COME UP AND SAY, ANYTHING I CAN HELP YOU WITH ANYTHING I COULD DO FOR YOU. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN AND TAKING CARE OF THE COMMUNITY ALSO, AND ALL OF YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU, I LOVE YOU, I BLESS YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU, AND I THANK GOD FOR YOU. AND PLEASE DON'T LET ANY OF THIS NEGATIVITY THAT THE LADY HAS SAID EARLIER MESS WITH YOUR HEART. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO, WORK FROM YOUR HEART. DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE. BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS A LOT OF US DON'T. WHEN YOU HELP SOMEONE ELSE, YOU'RE HELPING YOURSELF. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU ALL BE BLESSED. BE SAFE. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY PROSPEROUS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL. LASTLY, WE HAVE MISS MIRIAM TAYLOR. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIRELESS EFFORT FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND I WANTED TO SAY THE PEOPLE THAT'S COMING BEHIND YOU HAVE REALLY, REALLY BIG SHOES TO FILL. BUT AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT YOU GUYS LEAVING, I STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER USED TO SAY. MY GRANDMOTHER, GREAT GRANDMOTHER, DIED WHEN SHE WAS 104. I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD AT THAT TIME, AND SHE USED TO SAY, GIVE ME MY FLOWERS WHILE I'M HERE SO THAT I CAN ENJOY THEM. SO TONIGHT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME FLOWERS AND SAY, GOOD JOB, GREAT JOB, AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE FLOWERS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU[X. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]
TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. WE WILL NOW GO TO COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL? MADAM CITY CLERK. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER. BUTLER I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE TIME FOR COUNCIL TO SPEAK TO MORE THAN TWO MINUTES.SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT'S FOR ALL. THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SORRY. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER. QUICKLY. HOW HOW LONG ARE Y'ALL EXTENDING IT OR THE MOTION WAS JUST TO EXTEND. SO I GUESS IT'S WIDE OPEN. THERE WAS NO TIME LIMIT ON IT. OKAY. NOBODY MODIFIED IT. SO COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS A CHILD, I GREW UP WATCHING SATURDAY MORNING CARTOONS. MY FAVORITE WAS THE SUPER FRIENDS.
IT IS AMAZING HOW SOMETHING SO SMALL CAN SHAPE YOUR LIFE. THOSE STORIES PLANTED A BELIEF IN ME EARLY THAT HELPING PEOPLE MATTERS, THAT SERVICE MATTERS, AND THAT CHOOSING TO BE A HERO MEANS CHOOSING GOOD EVEN WHEN IT'S HARD. THAT BELIEF GUIDED ME. IT GUIDED MY LIFE LONG BEFORE PUBLIC SERVICE. I HAVE ALWAYS FELT THE CALL TO HELP PEOPLE, TO SERVE, AND TO STAND ON THE SIDE OF WHAT IS RIGHT. THAT CODE HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN EASY TO LIVE BY, AND AT TIMES IT EVEN BROUGHT CHALLENGES. BUT IT NEVER LEFT ME. MY COMMITMENT TO SERVICE DID NOT BEGIN EIGHT YEARS AGO, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL. FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, I HAVE SERVED OTHERS. I HAVE MENTORED YOUNG MEN, RAISED FUNDS FOR BATTERED WOMEN AND HELP CHILDREN WITH CANCER EXPERIENCE MOMENTS OF JOY BEFORE THEY WENT HOME TO GLORY. SERVICE IS NOT SOMETHING I DECIDED TO DO ONE DAY. IT IS A PART OF WHO I AM. EIGHT YEARS AGO, I ENTERED PUBLIC SERVICE WITH OPTIMISM, BELIEVING THAT WE ALL WANTED THE SAME THING TO HELP PEOPLE AND TO BUILD SOMETHING BETTER TO TOGETHER. WHILE THAT WAS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, THE EXPERIENCE TAUGHT ME
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INVALUABLE LESSONS ABOUT LEADERSHIP, PERSEVERANCE, AND CLARITY OF PURPOSE. I HAVE LEARNED THAT PERSPECTIVE CAN SHAPE HOW WE SEE OUR ACTIONS. BUT TRUTH HAS A WAY OF REVEALING ITSELF OVER TIME AND CLARITY ALWAYS RISE ABOVE CONFUSION. THROUGH IT ALL, I AM NOT DISCOURAGED. I AM GRATEFUL TO THE GREAT PEOPLE OF EAST POINT. THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR OF SERVING YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST, YOUR RESILIENCE, YOUR BELIEF IN SOMETHING BETTER.THIS CHAPTER HAS SHAPED ME, STRENGTHENED ME, AND SHARPENED MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT LEADERSHIP TRULY REQUIRES. I SHARE THESE WORDS DRAWN FROM AN UNKNOWN AUTHOR AND FROM HENLEY, BECAUSE THEY REFLECT AND ARE A REFLECTION OF TODAY. THE WORLD IS STILL HERE AND SO ARE YOU.
FOR THE RECORD, I NEVER HAD A MOMENT OF DOUBT. I KNEW YOU WILL FIND A WAY. YOU ALWAYS DO.
I HOPE IN TIME YOU CAN SEE THIS LIFE WAS NOT SOME QUIRK OF FATE. THIS WAS YOUR CALLING, YOUR DESTINY. A DESTINY THAT TOUCHES EVERY LIVING THING. LIKE IT OR NOT, WE ARE MASTERS OF OUR FATE.
NOTHING IS WRITTEN AND OUR CALLS, HOWEVER RIGHTEOUS, PALES IN COMPARISON TO THE IMPACT OF OUR EFFECT. ANY HOPE FOR A BETTER FUTURE COMES FROM WILLING THAT FUTURE INTO BEING A FUTURE, REFLECTING THE MEASURE OF GOOD WITHIN OURSELVES AND ALL THAT IS GOOD INSIDE US IS MEASURED BY THE GOOD WE DO FOR OTHERS. WE ALL SHARE THE SAME FATE, THE SAME FUTURE, THE SUM OF OUR INFINITE CHOICES. ONE SUCH FUTURE IS BUILT ON KINDNESS, TRUST, AND MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING. SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT. DRIVING WITHOUT QUESTION TOWARDS A LIGHT WE CANNOT SEE, NOT JUST FOR THOSE WHO WE HOLD CLOSE, BUT FOR THOSE WE WILL NEVER MEET OUT OF THE NIGHT. THAT COVERS ME BLACK AS A PIT, FROM POLE TO POLE. I THINK WHATEVER GODS MAY BE. FOR MY UNCONQUERABLE SOUL IN THE FELL CLUTCH OF CIRCUMSTANCE I HAVE NOT WINCED NOR CRIED ALOUD. BEYOND THIS BLUDGEONING OF CHANCE, MY HEAD IS BLOODY BUT UNBOWED. BEYOND THIS PLACE OF WRATH AND TEARS LOOMS. BUT THE HORROR OF THE SHADE. AND YET THE MENACE OF THE YEARS SHALL FIND ME UNAFRAID. IT MATTERS NOT HOW STRAIT THE GATE. HOW CHARGED WITH PUNISHMENT THE SCROLL. I AM THE MASTER OF MY FATE. I AM THE CAPTAIN OF MY SOUL. I REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE FUTURE. NOT JUST FOR THOSE I KNOW AND LOVE, BUT FOR THOSE I MAY HAVE NEVER MET. I MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT BITTERNESS AND WITHOUT REGRET. GUIDED BY SERVICE, INTEGRITY, AND THE BELIEF THAT LEADERSHIP AT ITS BEST IS ABOUT LEAVING THINGS BETTER THAN WHAT YOU FOUND THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO THE WARD D RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT TO THE COMMUNITY GATHERING ON DECEMBER 6TH. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT TONIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR GRATITUDE. TONIGHT WE GATHER NOT TO SAY GOODBYE, BUT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR OUTGOING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS SHAPED THE VERY HEARTBEAT OF THIS CITY. YOU STEP FORWARD DURING MOMENTS OF CHALLENGE, LISTEN WHEN VOICES NEEDED TO BE HEARD, AND WORK TIRELESSLY TO MOVE OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD. BECAUSE OF YOUR SERVICE, OUR CITY IS STRONGER, MORE CONNECTED, AND BETTER PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE. LEADERSHIP IS NOT MEASURED ONLY BY THE POLICIES PASSED OR PROJECTS COMPLETED, BUT BY THE LIVES TOUCHED ALONG THE WAY.
YOU SHOWED US WHAT IT MEANS TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY, COURAGE AND COMPASSION. YOU MADE DECISIONS WITH THE PEOPLE IN MIND, OUR FAMILIES, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND GENERATIONS YET TO COME. THE ROADS IMPROVED, THE PROGRAMS EXPANDED, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES CREATED WILL REMAIN AS VISIBLE SIGNS OF YOUR DEDICATION. BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT IS THE EXAMPLE YOU SET THAT PUBLIC SERVICE IS A CALLING ROOTED IN LOVE FOR COMMUNITY. YOUR TITLES MAY CHANGE, BUT YOUR IMPACT WILL NOT BE ERASED. IT LIVES ON IN THIS CITY AND IN ALL OF US WHO
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HAVE BENEFITED FROM YOUR VISION AND COMMITMENT. ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL COMMUNITY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, YOUR SACRIFICE, AND YOUR BELIEF IN WHAT THIS CITY CAN BE. WE ARE BETTER BECAUSE OF YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF SO MANY WHO'VE TAKEN THEIR TIME OUT THIS EVENING TO COME AND OFFER THEIR APPRECIATION TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE DAIS. I ECHOED THOSE SENTIMENTS BECAUSE RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO, AND I'M ALWAYS GRATEFUL FOR THOSE WHO STEP UP TO DO THAT. IT REQUIRES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SACRIFICE, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AWAY FROM FAMILY AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ENJOY DOING. AND SO I'D LIKE TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR GIVING OF THEMSELVES TO SERVE THIS CITY. IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TO COUNCILMAN BUTLER, OUR MAYOR, MAYOR HOLIDAY INGRAM, AND ALSO COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. THANK THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO WAIT TILL AFTER THE PRESENTATION, BUT I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD ON AND SAY WHAT I GOT TO SAY. SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING. YOU REMINDED ME OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT I DID, AND I ACTUALLY FORGOT ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF, BUT I WROTE IT DOWN. IT'S OKAY. FIRST I WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING. I STAND HERE IN FULL PRESENCE, UNBENT AND GROUNDED IN THE SAME SPIRIT THAT CARRIED ME THROUGH THESE 12 YEARS OF SERVICE. YES, WHENEVER MAN AND WOMAN STRENGTHENS THEIR BACK UP, THEY ARE GOING SOMEWHERE BECAUSE A MAN CAN'T RIDE YOUR BACK UNLESS IT'S BENT IN THE ROOMS WHERE SOME EXPECTED MY TIME TO BE SHORT, I ENDURED LONGER THAN THEIR EXPECTATION, ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN THEIR PREDICTION, AND ESTABLISHED A LEGACY THEIR EFFORTS COULD NEVER ERASE. AND THOSE WHO ANTICIPATED MY FALL LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO WITNESS MY ENDURANCE, AND TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY. THAT MY BACK WAS NEVER BENT. ACROSS THE A ACROSS THE 12 YEARS OF MY COMMITMENT WAS SIMPLE TO SERVE THIS CITY WITH INTEGRITY, INTENTION AND IMPACT. AND THE WORK REFLECT AND THE WORK REFLECTS THAT. I SUPPORTED RAISING, I SUPPORTED RAISING THE STARTING WAGES TO 20 TO $20 AN HOUR, INTRODUCED A BLIGHTED PROPERTY TAX ORDINANCE TO HOLD NEGLECTED PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE, ADVANCED A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP PROVIDING RENT FREE HOUSING FOR POLICE OFFICERS IN HIGH CRIME AREAS. AND THAT'S ALSO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. FACILITATED, INITIATED AND INSTALLING TO PARKS CAMERAS TO ELIMINATE, TAG, TAG AND REDUCE VANDALISM AND DETER CRIME. CHAMPIONED LEGISLATION TO CURB STREET RACING AND RESTORE THE CORRIDOR. SAFETY. SUPPORTED FEDERAL PARTNERSHIPS, SECURING $10 MILLION FOR THE NEW RAW WATER LINES, RESERVOIRS, SEWER SYSTEM, SWEETWATER DAM AND STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS, AND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS BACK BACK TO SLASH FUNDING THAT RESEARCHERS OVER 24 MILES OF ROAD SUPPORTED NEW SIDEWALKS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND PUBLIC SAFETY UPGRADES ACROSS THE CITY. CREATED AND EXPANDED THE SENIOR YARD CLEANING AND HOME HOME REPAIR PARTNERSHIP, DELIVERED WEEKLY SENIOR FOOD BOXES, INCLUDING HOME DELIVERY HELP, PROVIDE DIGITAL TABLETS TO SENIORS, STRENGTHEN HEALTH CARE PARTNERSHIP INCLUDING GEN CARE, AND PROVIDED COVID 19 VACCINES TO RESIDENTS OF EASTPOINTE. SUPPORTED SENIOR SAFETY EMERGENCY RELIEF INITIATIVES ONE MINUTE. PARTNERED WITH TRI CITY SCHOOL TO SUPPORT YOUTH ENGAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP. ADVANCED THE CROWN ACT RESOLUTION PROTECTING CITY OF EMPLOYEES CITY OF EASTPOINTE EMPLOYEES FROM DISCRIMINATION BASED ON NATURAL HAIR SUPPORTED INITIATIVES THAT UPLIFTED AND STRENGTHENED CITY EMPLOYEES, ENDURING ENSURING FAIRNESS,[01:30:06]
DIGNITY, AND AN INCLUSIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT. CREATED CREATED. THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN IN THE POINT NOW A PREMIER REGIONAL CULTURE AND ECONOMIC EVENT, LAUNCHED THE M.L. KING DAY OF SERVICE, UNITING THE CITY TO VOLUNTEERISM AND PRIDE. ESTABLISHED THE HALLOWEEN FESTIVAL, CREATING A SAFE AND JOYFUL TRADITION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. AND STRENGTHENED PARTNERSHIP TO SPOTLIGHT EASTPOINTE 33 NEIGHBORHOODS AS A CENTER OF CULTURE AND INVESTMENT. HERE'S MY CLOSING. THEY CROSSED EVERY LINE OF AVAILABLE. THEY CROSSED EVERY LINE AVAILABLE TO THEM, THINKING IT WOULD SHAKE ME. BUT ALL IT DID WAS REVEAL EXACTLY WHO THEY WERE AND EXACTLY WHO THEY WERE DEALING WITH. I WATCHED EVERY LIE, EVERY WHISPER, EVERY STUNT. THEY WERE BOLD ENOUGH TO TRY. AND LET ME SAY THIS CLEARLY NOTHING THEY ATTEMPTED, EVER REVEALED, REVEALED A WEAK, A WEAK, A WEAKNESS IN ME. IT ONLY REVEALED THE LIMITS IN THEM. THEY FEARED A WOMAN. THEY COULD NOT. THEY. THEY FEARED A WOMAN THAT COULD NOT BE IN. THEY FEARED A VOICE THAT THEY COULD NOT SILENCE. THEY FEARED A PRESENCE THAT THEY COULD NOT CONTROL. AND THEY FEARED. AND THAT IS WHY THEY FEARED THEM.AND THAT IS WHY THEY MOVED THE WAY THEY DID WHILE THEY SCRAPED FOR TACTICS. I STOOD FOR WORK.
WHILE THEY REACHED FOR GOSSIP. I REACHED FOR RESULTS. AND WHEN THE NOISE FADES AND DETROIT.
AND TRUST ME, IT WILL. MY LEGACY IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STILL BE STANDING. THIS IS.
THIS IS THE PART THEY CANNOT REWRITE. THIS IS THE PART THEY CANNOT ERASE. AND THAT IS THE PART THEY WILL NEVER HAVE THE POWER TO TOUCH. LIKE MAYA ANGELOU SAID, STILL, I RISE NOT BECAUSE OF THEM, BUT BECAUSE THEY DID WHATEVER THEY HAD, BECAUSE THEY DID. BECAUSE BECAUSE NOTHING THEY DID WOULD EVER STOP ME. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS LIGHTS ON THIS EVENING. I WILL HAVE SOME BRIEF REMARKS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY HUSBAND WHO'S HERE. HE CAME TO MY FIRST MEETING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IN JANUARY 2014, AND IS HERE TONIGHT FOR MY LAST MEETING. REGULAR MEETING AS MAYOR 12 YEARS LATER. SO THANK YOU BABY, FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE. MY DAUGHTER, MY DAUGHTER NIA WAS HERE EARLIER WITH THE PINK LOCKS. SHE'S NOT FEELING WELL AND MY MOM BECAME A RESIDENT OF EAST POINT DURING MY TERM OF SERVICE AND WAS ABLE TO VOTE FOR ME WHEN I WAS REELECTED IN 2021. AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WORLD, I KNOW THAT MY FAMILY IS WITH ME. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE FORMER MAYOR PATSY JO HILLIARD, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, WHO WAS THE FIRST BLACK FEMALE MAYOR IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. AS WELL AS THE FIRST BLACK AND THE FIRST FEMALE MAYOR IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT? SHE BLAZED THE PATH FOR US, FOR ALL OF US, AND I'M TRULY GRATEFUL FOR HER. BISHOP FAN WAS HERE AS WELL, WHO WAS ALSO A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'VE SAID A LOT IN MY OVER 400 MEETINGS AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT, OF WHICH I PRESIDED, OVER 250 OF THOSE OVER 250 AS MAYOR. AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF RECEIPTS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER AND I JUST HEARD THE SNICKER OR LAUGH WHEN I MADE THAT, THAT COMMENT.
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN AND ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT FROM THE TIME THAT I STARTED SERVICE IN JANUARY OF 2013, IN THIS CITY TO THIS DAY, THIS CITY IS IN A BETTER PLACE AND THAT WE HAVE MADE GAINS. AND SO WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO MARKET THAT OR TRY TO TAKE AWAY ONE THING
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IS FOR CERTAIN RECEIPTS AND LEGACY LAST AND SURPASS ALL TIME. AND SO ACCORDING TO DELISH MAGAZINE, WE HAVE THE BEST CUPCAKES IN GEORGIA IN DOWNTOWN AT CUPCAKERY, THE THIRD SOCCER FIELD ON THE WORLD'S FIRST TRANSIT SOCCER LEAGUE IS IN THE HEART OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND EAST POINT ON MAIN STREET. THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH SOCCER IN THE STREETS, A'S PIZZA ATTORNEY JOEL BASKIN, MARTA AND THE ARTHUR BLANK FOUNDATION, THE CITY OF EAST POINT SUPPLIES DRINKING WATER TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES OF COLLEGE PARK AND HAYESVILLE.THE COCA-COLA PRODUCTION FACILITY, LOCATED IN COLLEGE PARK, UTILIZES EAST POINT'S WATER AS ONE OF THE PRIMARY SOURCES IN THE BOTTLING PROCESS FOR ITS VARIOUS BEVERAGES BEVERAGE PRODUCTS. THUS, EAST POINT WATER IS THE. IT IS AN. EVERY PRODUCT PRODUCED AT THAT FACILITY, FROM SODAS TO THE SUNNY, WATER HYDRATING FULTON COUNTY IN THE WORLD. REDDY ICE, HEADQUARTERED IN EAST POINT, PROVIDES ICE FOR ALL DELTA FLIGHTS, SO EAST POINT WATER LITERALLY GOES AROUND THE WORLD. MONEY INC. IN ITS COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE FOR HOME BUYERS, RANKED EAST POINT AS 28TH OF THE 30 BEST SUBURBS TO LIVE IN IN GEORGIA. AND WHEN I GOT HERE, WE WEREN'T KNOWN FOR ANY OF THAT. AND SO AGAIN, I SAY, MAY THE WORKS THAT I'VE DONE SPEAK FOR ME. AND THE LAUGHING THAT HAPPENED WHEN I STARTED TO TALK ABOUT ACCOMPLISHMENTS UP HERE ON THIS DAIS, AS WELL AS THE RECENT MAIL THAT WENT OUT, MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR SAID RETURNING HATE FOR HATE MULTIPLIES HATE, ADDING DEEPER DARKNESS TO A NIGHT ALREADY DEVOID OF STARS. DARKNESS CANNOT DRIVE OUT DARKNESS. ONLY LIGHT CAN DO THAT. HATE CANNOT DRIVE OUT HATE. ONLY LOVE CAN DO THAT. AND SO ONE THING I KNOW FOR CERTAIN, BEING REELECTED WITH 77% OF THE VOTE. ONE THING I KNOW FOR CERTAIN IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY OF EAST POINT STAND WITH ME, HAVE STOOD WITH MY ADMINISTRATION AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE MADE GREAT GAINS IN THIS CITY. AND THE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO DETRACT FROM THAT ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO BRING HATE INTO OUR CITY. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY WASTE THEIR MONEY ON SUCH SENSELESS, HATEFUL COMMUNICATION. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT TELLS ME? WE'RE DOING SOMETHING GREAT AND THEY WANT TO BE A PART. AND THE WAY PEOPLE TRY TO BRING DOWN GREATNESS IS TO TEAR IT DOWN. BUT PROMOTION COMES NOT FROM THE NORTH, THE SOUTH, THE EAST OR THE WEST. IT COMES FROM GOD. HE IS THE ONE WHO SET IT DOWN ONE AND PUT IT UP ANOTHER. SO IN ALL THINGS GIVE THANKS. EVEN IN THE MIDST OF. WHAT PEOPLE PERCEIVE AS WEAPONS. NO WEAPON FORMED SHALL PROSPER. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE YOU. IT IS TRULY BEEN ONE OF THE GREATEST HONORS OF MY LIFE, AND I CAN CONTINUE TO SAY. AND I SANG IT, BUT I WON'T SING IT TONIGHT. I SANG IT AT MY INAUGURATION. LAST INAUGURATION. IF I CAN HELP SOMEBODY AS I PASS ALONG, IF I CAN CHEER SOMEBODY WITH A WORD OR A SONG, IF I CAN SHOW SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE TRAVELING WRONG, THEN MY LIVING WILL NOT BE IN VAIN. SERVICE IS THE RENT THAT I PAY FOR MY ROOM HERE ON EARTH. AND EACH DAY I WORK TO NOT GET EVICTED AND SO KNOW THAT THIS IS THE END OF MY SERVICE AS MAYOR, BUT NOT THE END OF MY SERVICE TO OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITY, AND OUR COUNTY. IT WILL STILL CONTINUE, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY WHEREVER I GO, THERE'S NO POINT LIKE EAST POINT. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME. WE WILL GO TO I KNOW WE HAVE
[XI.4. Recognition of East Point Parks and Recreation 10U and 12U Girls Flag Football Team]
OUR YOUTH HERE, SO I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE OUR YOUTH BEFORE WE GET TO OUR ADULTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN PATIENT. WHEN THEY WERE IN THE ROOM, THE APPLAUSE WAS A LITTLE BIT LOUDER BECAUSE[01:40:03]
I THINK THEY WERE KEEPING THEMSELVES ACTIVE AND WE GREATLY, GREATLY APPRECIATE THEM. AND SO I ALWAYS SAY THERE'S NO POINT LIKE EAST POINT AND OUR TEN U AND 12 U FLAG FOOTBALL TEAM, GIRLS FLAG FOOTBALL TEAM REPRESENTED US SO WELL AT THE STATE. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, CHARLOTTE PINKETT, TO SHARE WITH US AND RECOGNIZE OUR YOUTH. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR ALWAYS KEEPING THE FOCUS ON OUR YOUNG, YOUNG PEOPLE AND SOME OF THE SUCCESS THEY'VE HAD IN THE FIELD OF SPORTS. TONIGHT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD OUR YOUNG LADIES THAT PLAYED IN JACKSON COUNTY A FEW WEEKS AGO, OUR TEN YEAR AND 12 YEAR DIVISION 2025 MARKED OUR FIRST YEAR OF OFFERING AN ALL GIRLS FLAG FOOTBALL LEAGUE. TYPICALLY, I BROUGHT OUR BOYS IN THE PAST WHO'VE GONE ON TO PLAY IN THE NATIONALS, BUT OUR GIRLS HAVE ACTUALLY COMPETED VERY WELL NATIONALLY. WE WON THE ACTUAL FIRST STATE TOURNAMENT IN 2024. AND OUR GIRLS ARE COMPETING IN GROUP STATE TOURNAMENT FOR 2025. I'LL LET MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAD. THESE GIRLS WERE VERY PERSEVERANT AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE TOUGH. THEY HUNG IN HERE TONIGHT WITH US. SOME OF THEM WAS PROBABLY SLEEP, BUT WE HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF YOUNG LADIES, GREAT COACHES THAT WE'LL SPEAK ON IN A LITTLE BIT.BUT I WANT JUAN ANDERSON TO KIND OF COME UP AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THESE YOUNG LADIES PLAYED UNDER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS ON TONIGHT.
IT'S IT'S REAL SPECIAL FOR US BECAUSE OUR TITLE NINE SPORTS IS GROWING IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND THAT'S AN AMAZING THING AS PEOPLE NATIONALLY TRY TO GROW AND GET TO THE SPOT WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO CATER TO OUR GIRLS AND OUR BOYS AT THE SAME TIME. I HAVE IN SPORTS 360 DEGREES YEAR ROUND. I JUST WANT TO GIVE OUT PARENTS. A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THESE YOUNG LADIES.
BUT WE DEFINITELY COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT WITHOUT THE PARENTS FOR BELIEVING AND ENTRUSTING IN US OF BEING ABLE TO CARRY THEIR DAUGHTERS AND TEACHING THEM THE GAME OF FOOTBALL. ALSO, MY COACHES COACH JK COME ON UP, COACH AND COACH. COACH JK HAS BEEN PIVOTAL WITH OUR GIRLS. WE STARTED OUT WITH FLAG FOOTBALL BACK IN 17 AND WE WERE DOING JUST COED, SO IT WAS A FEW GIRLS SPRINKLED IN. I THINK AS OF TWO YEARS AGO, WE STARTED TO PUT ALL GIRLS TEAM TOGETHER TO PLAY IN OUR BOYS FLAG FOOTBALL LEAGUE. SO THAT WAS AMAZING. AND JUST LAST YEAR WE STARTED DOING GIRL ALL GIRLS FLAG FOOTBALL AND AS YOU KNOW, WE WON THE FIRST STATE STATE TITLE FOR GIRLS FLAG FOOTBALL ON LAST YEAR. WE TOOK ONE TEAM DOWN THAT WAS TENU. SO WE WENT BACK DOWN THIS YEAR. AND THIS YEAR FOR EAST POINT WAS OUR FIRST YEAR DOING AN ALL GIRLS LEAGUE.
SO THE GIRLS GOT TO PLAY AGAINST GIRLS ALL YEAR LONG. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS AMAZING IN ITSELF. WE LEARNED THAT OUR GIRLS HAVE A LOT OF PERSONALITY, A LOT A LOT OF SWAGGER, AND THEY'RE MOSTLY TOUGHER THAN THE BOYS BEING HONEST WITH YOU. SO WE TOOK TWO TEAMS DOWN TO THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR, WHICH TEN U AND 12 U. OUR TEN U TEAM WAS ONE PLAY AWAY FROM WINNING IT. WE ENDED UP COMING IN SECOND PLACE RUNNER UP FOR THIS YEAR. OUR 12 U TEAM.
THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT ON DIFFERENT SOIL, BUT WE WE WENT DOWN AND REPRESENTED EAST POINT WELL. CAME DOWN TO ONE LAST PLAY THAT WENT OFF AT THE HORN AS WELL.
BUT OUR GIRLS DID AN AMAZING JOB TO FIGHT THROUGH THE COLD. I DON'T KNOW, WAS IT 20 DEGREES DOWN THERE WITH THE COLD OR WIND? AND WE WERE SITTING IN BETWEEN THE VALLEY AND TRYING TO GET OUR GIRL TO TAKE BLANKETS OFF FIVE MINUTES BEFORE KICK OFF. I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS ROUGH, Y'ALL, BUT OUR PARENTS AND OUR KIDS DID AN AMAZING JOB AND FOUGHT THROUGH.
AND WE WON A RUNNER UP FOR OUR 12 U AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THESE YOUNG LADIES. I WANT TO GIVE THE COACHES A SECOND TO BE ABLE TO CALL OUT THEIR GIRLS AND LET THE GIRLS GET KNOWN. ALSO, I BROUGHT YOU GUYS SOME MEDALS FROM FROM OUR GIRLS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GET SOME HARDWARE. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE IT OVER TO OUR COACHES SO THEY CAN GIVE THAT GIRL SOME PRAISE. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN I'M COACH JK. I LET THE
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TEN GIRLS TEAM. I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THEM OUT NOW. WE'LL GO. SO WE'LL START WITH ARIANA FROM TEN. YOU JUST GO STAND OVER HERE. MARLON. JADA. ORDER. CARMEN. CHLOE. AND THE REST OF THE YOUNG LADIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT. JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM AS WELL. ALRIGHT. I HAD THE 12 YEAR OLDS, THE THE GANG, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE ALL MY FOLKS RIGHT HERE. FIRST WE GOT CARTER. WE GOT LONDON, WE GOT GABBY, WE GOT CHLOE, WE GOT NOAH, ELISE.YOU KNOW WE GOT Z. AND ALSO WE HAVE OUR ASSISTANT COACH, COACH DREW RIGHT HERE. SO I AM GOING TO SEE IF ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY TO YOU ALL. I'LL END WITH SOME CONGRATULATIONS. AND WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND GET A PICTURE. WHERE THE FAMILY. WHERE THE PARENTS. I KNOW Y'ALL HERE. LET'S GIVE IT UP TO THE PARENTS. AND PARENTS OF A SCHOLAR ATHLETE. I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME Y'ALL PUT IN TIME AND MONEY THAT Y'ALL PUT IN, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PARENTS AS WELL. WHAT DO YOU SAY? THE LIKE. OH, OUR DAUGHTER NIA PLAYS TRAVEL NATIONAL TRAVEL SOFTBALL. SO MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS COUNCILMAN MIKE ROGERS. YES. JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXTEND A VERY HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SCHOLAR ATHLETES. I KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PLAY ON THE TEAM AND TO DO WELL IN TEAM SPORTS PARTICULARLY, YOU'VE GOT TO BE GREAT INSIDE THE CLASSROOM AND ON THE FIELD AND WORK REALLY COHESIVELY TOGETHER IN ORDER TO BRING THOSE PRIZES HOME AND DO WELL ON THE FIELD. SO CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, COUNCILMAN ROGERS. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
KEEP YOUR GRADES UP. AND DON'T FORGET TO KEEP RISING TO THE TOP. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, DON'T FORGET ABOUT EASTPOINTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR PINKETT, FOR PUTTING OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ON THE MAP. AND THANK YOU TO OUR PARENTS, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE PARENTS BEING HEAVILY INVOLVED, THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE, YOUNG LADY? SO I WAS GETTING REAL TIME UPDATES WHEN Y'ALL WERE DOWN THERE IN THE COLD, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW PROUD I AM OF YOU. I TOLD THAT DIRECTOR PINKETT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M PROUD OF YOU. I'M PROUD OF THE WAY YOU REPRESENT THE CITY OF EAST POINT. BECAUSE OF YOU, I CAN KEEP SAYING THERE'S NO POINT LIKE EAST POINT. AND AS HARD AS YOU PLAY ON THE FIELD, I WANT YOU TO PLAY THAT HARD OFF THE FIELD. MAKE SURE THOSE GRADES ARE GOOD. WE HAVE SCHOLAR ATHLETES, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ALWAYS GOTTA HAVE STUFF PLUS SPORTS, RIGHT? BUT I'M REALLY, REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF YOU. IT DOES MY HEART PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT OUR GIRLS WENT TO STATE, NOT JUST REGIONALS STATE.
WE NUMBER TWO IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, IT'S 537 CITIES IN GEORGIA. IF Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW, THAT'S BIG. AND SO THE WAY THAT YOU'RE DOING BIG THINGS NOW, I KNOW THAT BIG THINGS POPPING, LITTLE THINGS STOPPING, IT'S GOING TO KEEP GOING THE OLDER YOU GET. BUT MAKE SURE YOU KEEP PUTTING IN THE WORK ON AND OFF THE FIELD. AND REMEMBER THE LITTLE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN Y'ALL GET MY AGE OR GET A LITTLE BIT OLDER, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF ME. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? Y'ALL MAKE SURE I HAVE A A GOOD COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE LOVE EACH OTHER, RESPECT EACH OTHER, AND THEN CARE FOR EACH OTHER. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO THE THE YOUTH AND TO YOUR PARENTS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU AND KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP BRINGING IT HOME AND KEEP SHOWING EVERYBODY WHY THERE'S NO POINT LIKE EAST POINT. OKAY. ALRIGHT WE'RE GOING TO GO TAKE SOME PICTURES.
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FAMILY I KNOW YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE PICTURES, BUT I ALSO FEEL FREE TO GET IN THE PICTURES AS WELL.ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT, SO THE YOUNG LADIES DO AN AMAZING JOB BECAUSE THEY HAVE AMAZING
[XI.3. Recognition of East Point Parks and Recreation Volunteer Coaches]
COACHES, RIGHT? AND SO YOU ALL MAY NOT KNOW, BUT NOVEMBER 1ST IS ACTUALLY EXTRA MILE DAY, NATIONAL EXTRA MILE DAY IN OUR COUNTRY. AND IT'S AN ANNUAL OBSERVANCE OF THAT CELEBRATES INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, WORKPLACES, AND RELATIONSHIPS. AND IT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO MAKE A SPECIAL EFFORT AND ALSO TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THOSE WHO ARE INSPIRATIONAL IN THEIR ACTIONS. AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR PINKETT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME AMAZING VOLUNTEER COACHES WITH EAST POINT PARKS AND RECREATION VOLUNTEER. THESE OUTSTANDING COACHES EMBODY WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE THEIR TEAMS AND COMMUNITY SELFLESSLY. AND THROUGH THEIR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE SHAPING THE NEXT GENERATION OF ATHLETES AND LEADERS. THESE COACHES HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE A LASTING IMPACT ON OUR ATHLETES AND COMMUNITY AND THEIR DEDICATION, POSITIVE ENERGY AND COMMITMENT TO TEACHING LIFE LESSONS THROUGH SPORTS MAKE THEM TRUE EXTRA MILE CHANGEMAKERS. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR PINKETT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU AND WELL SAID. A LOT OF TIMES YOU HEAR US TALKING ABOUT OUR OUR HASHTAG BEST RECORD IN THE WORLD. BUT WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH, IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF AMAZING. WHEN IT COMES TO PARKS AND REC, WE CAN DO ALL OF THE PLANNING, PROMOTING, PASSING FLIERS OUT, BUT WITHOUT HAVING VOLUNTEER COACHES WHO DO THIS FOR FREE, NONE OF THIS STUFF WILL GO. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO CELEBRATE OUR GIRLS, BUT OUR COACHES PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, A LOT OF OUR COACHES. THE MAYOR FOUND OUT THEY ACTUALLY COACHED TWO AND THREE SPORTS. SOME HELP OUT WITH OUR EDUCATION PROGRAMS, BUT WE CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT THEM. I'M GOING TO SHOW A QUICK VIDEO OF THE ACTUAL DAY. WE DID THE CELEBRATION AT THE FLAG FOOTBALL GAME. AND SO HOW OUR COACHES REALLY APPRECIATED MAYOR INGRAM. WE WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THEM. LIKE YOU SAID IN THIS SPEECH THAT YOU SAID THEY'RE DOING THIS FOR FREE AND THEY POINT TO OUR YOUTH EVERY DAY ALL YEAR. WE'RE ALWAYS CALLING ON THEM AND THEY ALWAYS SHOW UP FOR US. SO AT THIS TIME, I WANT THE COACHES TO COME UP. ALL THE COACHES ARE STILL HERE, AND I'M GOING TO PLAY THE VIDEO FROM THE DAY OF THE CEREMONY. THREE. ANYBODY WANTED SOMETHING MORE TO ONE[01:55:01]
POINT, SO NO. THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION BECAUSE IT MEANS SO TODAY WE ACROSS THE NATION. IS ACTUALLY REAL PEOPLE. AND FOR ME FOR THIS YEAR. I THINK BETWEEN MY BODY AND MY COACHES WHO GAVE HIM THAT TIME. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A PROCLAMATION TO READ THAT 2025 AND EACH POINT RECOGNITION VOLUNTEER COACHES APPRECIATION AWARD. AND IT'S AND ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO JOIN IN RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING THEIR INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTION. AND THE TYPES OF RECREATION DEPARTMENT, VOLUNTEER, COACH AND VETERAN SHOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE. I WILL PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAM. THANK YOU ALL. SO SO, SO VERY, VERY MUCH. ALL. YOU DID IT FOR FREE. THAT'S.EVERYBODY. YEAH. THERE'S SOMETHING MORE THAN LIFE. NOTHING BEATS TO GET. AND IN THE LAST WE WE CANNOT DO THIS WITH THE MAYOR BEING THE LAST MEETING. WE GOTTA SHOW HER DOING THE DANCE. SO. WE WE GOT IT. WE WE WANT TO. WE GOT IT.
JUST PAUSE IT. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STRIVE WITH OUR PROGRAM IN GENERAL, WE LIKE TO MAKE IT LIKE A HOME. IF YOU EVER ATTENDED ANY OF OUR FLAG FOOTBALL GAMES OR ANY OF OUR SPORTS, WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE AT HOME. OBVIOUSLY, EASTPOINTE BEING MY HOME, IT'S VERY SPECIAL FOR ME. PROCLAMATIONS FOR ME IS A BIG DEAL. FIVE YEARS AGO, YOU GAVE MY MOM ONE HER PASSING DURING COVID. SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS. I THINK OUR COACHES ARE VERY PROUD OF THIS HONOR. WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES CAME OUT ON THAT THAT DAY. A LOT OF OUR COACHES ARE ACTUALLY COACHING AS WE SPEAK AT THE GYM TONIGHT COACHING BASKETBALL. BUT I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL AS WELL FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING AND TAKING OUT THIS TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY. WE WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK DOING THIS AND WE CALL ON THESE COACHES TREMENDOUSLY. SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION FOR OUR KIDS. THANK YOU. AND, AND AND WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT NAMES ARE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE CALL YOU, WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT YOU ANSWER TO.
AND WE ANSWER TO GREATNESS. AND SO I ASK DIRECTOR PINKERT TO GIVE ME THE LIST OF EVERYBODY'S NAME AND MADAM CITY CLERK. I WANT ALL OF THESE NAMES INCLUDED IN THE RECORD, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND SAY THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK ON THAT. HOPEFULLY WE GET SOME STIPENDS IN THE BUDGET FOR OUR COACHES. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE A LOT, BUT SOME SMALL STIPENDS WOULD BE HELPFUL PER SPORT BECAUSE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE INVESTMENT THEY'RE MAKING AGAIN, IS SHAPING OUR YOUTH NOT ONLY FOR TODAY, BUT INTO THE FUTURE. AND SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE NAMES. I'LL READ THROUGH THEM QUICKLY. BUT I, I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF NAMES AND SPEAKING NAMES. AND SO HARVEY, GLENN, PHIL, SPEEDY JACKSON, JAY MOORE, JONATHAN BOB WILLIAMS, JOSEPH SMITH, DARREN STOKES, TONY SMITH, AVIS WOMBLE, BILLY DOHERTY, DEVIN HALL I SHOULD SAY I SHOULD HAVE SAID BILLY DOHERTY. I'M SORRY. SYNCYTIA SHEFFIELD, JOSH MCKINNEY, XAVIER JENKINS, DEE DANIELS, HARMON FAVORS, JAMES MILLER, AARON HILL AND IF YOU'RE HERE, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN I SAY YOUR NAME. DEMETRIUS RINGFIELD BYRON JONES, WHO IS ALSO A COUNCIL MEMBER. IS THAT BYRON? NO, I'M SORRY. BYRON JONES, JEREMY HUGHLEY, MOHAMMED. THINK ABOUT BRIAN JONES. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I'M SORRY I GOT DISTRACTED. WHITE RAY WILKES, A KING. SCRUGGS, DARIUS WILLIAMS, NATHAN TURNIPSEED, NADINE WILSON, SEAN FINNEY, DONTAVIUS BACCUS, EVAN PARKER, NICOLE ROWLAND, EDWARD SIMMONS, ZACH WOLF, TROY WILLIAMS, JOSH MCKINNEY. JEREL. ROWE, JEFFREY.
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DEWBERRY, RASHAD. GREENE, TERRENCE. COSBY, BRIAN. JOHNSON. TAUREAN KNIGHT, RASHAWN. HARMON, CECIL. MYRICK, RASHAD FRANCIS, GABBY. KARIUKI, CALVIN MILLBRAE, JUSTIN HENDERSON, QUENTIN GREEN, SHERROD COOK, SEAN. HURD, ROBERT. SMITH, SAMUEL. YOUNG, JUNIOR. DRE MOULTON, DARIUS LYONS, DONTAVIUS. WILLIAMS, JEROME. GREEN, DANTE. DORSEY, ROD. WILLIAMS, DOUGLAS. HENDRIX, RASHAD FRANCIS, JONQUIL, CHRISTOPHER RASHAD, BLAKE, SIMEON. HENDRIX, KELLY. KING, JOHN VERNON, SHONDRA ROBERTS, DAYLAN SCOTT, HENRY WARD, JUST JASHARI, ANDERSON TO JOSHUA GORDON AND COREY RUSSELL. LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR OUR VOLUNTEER COACHES. SO WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND HAVE A WORD. I'M SORRY. OH, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T DO I HAD COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND DO PICTURES. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO SALUTE YOU AS BEING A COACH. I KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE NEXT TO YOUR MOTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR TEACHER, YOUR COACH. INSTALL SO MANY LESSONS AND SO MANY VALUABLE LESSONS. PART OF THOSE LESSONS THAT I GOT WERE FROM MY COACH WHEN I PLAYED FOOTBALL. KEEP YOUR LEGS MOVING. WHEN I HIT BASKETBALL, DON'T TAKE THE BALL. YOU GOTTA TAKE THE BALL STRAIGHT UP TO THE RIM. BUT THOSE ARE ALSO METAPHORS FOR LIFE. WHEN YOU KEEP YOUR FEET MOVING, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD, WHEN ALL ABOUT YOU IS LOSING THEIRS AND BLAMING IT ON YOU. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GIVE THIS SPECIAL SALUTE TO THE COACH. I COME FROM A FAMILY OF COACHES, AND SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I DO APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. COUNCILMEMBER ROGERS.YES. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY I SALUTE YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR SPENDING TIME WITH OUR MOST PRECIOUS COMMODITY, WHICH IS OUR STUDENTS. THEY ARE OUR FUTURE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPENDING TIME IN INVESTING IN ONE OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS ASSETS IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TAKE A QUICK PICTURE AND THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING YOUR PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT. THAT'S GOOD FOR THE PICTURE.
[XI.5. Rising Warriors Foundation Proclamation Prince Anthony Walker]
IS A RISING WARRIORS FOUNDATION PROCLAMATION FOR PRINCE ANTHONY WALKER. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIKE ROGERS. FIRST TO OPEN. DID THEY LEAVE I DON'T KNOW, ARE YOU HERE? OH. YOU'RE HERE OKAY. WHERE DID HE GO? SHE IN HERE? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER? YES. RISING WARRIORS FOUNDATION PROCLAMATION FOR PRINCE ANTHONY WALKER, WHO HAS GONE ALL THE WAY TO THE O OLYMPICS. SO WE JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE HIM THIS EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. AND I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. GRANDMA. OH, MY GOOD DEED. YOU ARE NOT SHINY. OKAY, SO, PRINCE, HOW OLD ARE TEN YEARS OLD? AND I ALREADY GONE TO THE OLYMPICS.[02:05:11]
THAT THAT THAT MEANS. WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU JUST SET THE BAR WAY, WAY HIGH. BUT YOU GOING TO KEEP RISING, RIGHT? SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF PRINCE ANTHONY WALKER. WHEREAS PRINCE ANTHONY WALKER IS A TEN YEAR OLD, HOME SCHOOLED RESIDENT OF EAST POINT AND DEDICATED MARTIAL ARTS ARTIST TRAINING AT ATLANTA MARTIAL ARTS HAS BROUGHT EXTRAORDINARY HONOR TO OUR CITY. AND WHEREAS IN 2025, PRINCE BECAME THE YOUNGEST ATHLETE IN EAST POINT HISTORY AND THE FIRST CHILD EVER FROM OUR CITY SELECTED TO REPRESENT THE UNITED STATES ON TEAM USA AT THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. AND WHEREAS, PRINCE IS CELEBRATED NATIONWIDE NOT ONLY FOR HIS ELITE SKILL BUT FOR HIS EXEMPLARY SPORTSMANSHIP, LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT QUALITIES THAT MAKE HIM A TRUE ROLE MODEL FOR EAST POINT YOUTH. AND WHEREAS PRINCE'S JOURNEY PROVES THAT CHILDREN FROM OUR CITY CAN REACH THE WORLD STAGE WHILE CARRYING THEMSELVES WITH HONOR AND GRACE, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT EDINA HOLLIDAY INGRAM, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DECEMBER 15TH, 2025, AS PRINCE ANTHONY WALKER DAY IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS. YOU GOT A DAY, MAN. YOU GOT A DAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN IN CELEBRATING PRINCE'S HISTORIC ACHIEVEMENT AND HIS EMBODIMENT OF GREAT SPORTSMANSHIP AND LEADERSHIP. CONGRATULATIONS, PRINCE. SO SINCE YOU SINCE YOU AIN'T BEEN ON A WORLD STAGE, THAT MEANS I KNOW YOU PROBABLY NOT SHY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? MAYBE NOT SAY I'M STILL TEN YEARS OLD. PRESS THE MIC. PRESS THAT BUTTON RIGHT THERE. PRINCE IS ONE THAT'S SHORT FOR WORDS. OKAY, SO HE'S HERE. HE'S WALKING LIKE I GOT IT. HE JUST SHOW IT IN ACTION. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS. DOES ANYONE FROM COUNCIL WANT. GO AHEAD. DAD. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS AND EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE FOR THIS.AND ALSO GRANDMA. SHE'S WONDERFUL. AND NOT ONLY THAT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SHOW OUR TEAMMATES. TEAMMATES THAT ALSO WENT WITH PRINCE MAMA ON UP. THEY HAD TO WORK REALLY, REALLY HARD FOR THIS. LIKE AFTER THEY GO TO PRACTICE, THEY GO TO ANOTHER PRACTICE. THEY HAVE PRIVATES. THEY HAVE TO DO LIKE BOOT CAMPS, AND THEY TRAVELED ALL YEAR LONG, LIKE FROM HERE TO ORLANDO. AND THEY WENT TO WORLDS THIS PAST OCTOBER AND THEY KNOCKED THEM OUT. THEY REALLY WOWED EVERYONE I LOVE IT. WHAT? WHAT TEAMMATE'S NAME? TELL US THE TEAMMATES NAMES. I SHARED YOUR NAMES. YOUR NAME? HEAVEN. ROSS. HEAVEN. ROSS. MALACHI WAS MALACHI. ROSS. HOW OLD ARE YOU? EIGHT. I'M EIGHT. NINE. NINE. OH, YOU JUST TURNED NINE. I KNOW, I KNOW IT. IT HAPPENS TO ME TOO, BUT MY NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGH. HOW OLD ARE YOU? HAVE HEAVEN. TEN. TEN. OKAY. YOU'RE TEN AS WELL. SO. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS. MALACHI.
IN HEAVEN. THEY'RE. THEY'RE BROTHERS AND SISTERS. MALACHI IS ACTUALLY A THREE TIME WORLD CHAMP. WHOA. YEAH. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. WOW. THIS IS AMAZING. I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST FOR ME. I, I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T KNOWN CHAMPS THIS YOUNG NOT WORLD CHAMPS.
WE'RE BREAKING RECORDS. YOU'RE BREAKING ABSOLUTELY BREAKING RECORDS. OKAY. WELL COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I DIDN'T GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SPORT? KARATE. OH, CONGRATULATIONS. KARATE. I'M SORRY. POINT. POINT FIGHTING. KARATE. CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S VERY WELL DESERVED. AND KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, OKAY. AND I'D LIKE TO THANK ONE MORE PERSON, WHICH IS OUR OUR PRESIDENT, MR. ROSS, IN THE BACK. HORIZON. WARRIORS PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO COME TAKE A PICTURE OKAY OKAY. SO. THEY COME.
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EXCUSE ME. YOU GOT NERVOUS LIKE THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. COME ON. THANK YOU. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO HOLD IT? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE. TO THE RIGHT. TO THE RIGHT. LOOK. RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LEFT. I PROMISE. OKAY. CAN WE JUST DO ONE MORE BUT JUST YOU GUYS AND PRINCE. YES. OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. YOU. TWO. THREE. TWO. HEY WHAT'S UP, WHAT'S UP, WHAT'S UP Y'ALL. YEAH. WHAT'S UP WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT. YOU DOING? THE THING.[XI.6. Zeta Phi Beta Sorority and Amicae East Point Chapter]
ALRIGHT. WE HAVE NEXT UP, ZETA PHI BETA SORORITY AND AMICHAI. EAST POINT CHAPTER. MEMBER, SHROPSHIRE. THEY'RE COMING.THANK YOU. I WROTE IT RIGHT. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, ESTEEMED COUNCILWOMAN AND COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR DRINA INGRAM. IT IS INDEED A PLEASURE TO COME TO YOU TODAY WITH HEART FILLED GRATITUDE, BRINGING YOU GREETINGS FROM KAPPA IOTA ZETA CHAPTER OF ZETA PHI BETA SORORITY, INCORPORATED, EAST POINT CHAPTER. WE ARE SO ELATED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. AND WE WAITED ALL NIGHT TO GET HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE SO HUMBLY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND TO THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT. WE BOUGHT OUR FLOWERS TO BESTOW UPON MAYOR INGRAM AND COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE. WE HAVE LOVED WORKING WITH YOU. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 12 YEARS, AND WE HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT THE ENTIRE TIME. OUR SERVICE AREA IS THE CITY OF EAST POINT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE THE WORK THAT YOU STARTED. WE ARE SO HAPPY TO BE HERE AND WE THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FROM OUR CHAPTER HERE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. GREETINGS. COUNCILWOMAN SHARON, ON BEHALF OF ZETA AMICHAI OF EAST POINT, WE PRESENT YOU WITH THESE FLOWERS AS A TOKEN OF OUR GRATITUDE FOR THE IMPACT THAT YOU HAVE MADE ON THE CITY OF EAST POINT. WHENEVER WE NEEDED YOU, YOU WERE THERE TO SUPPORT US. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SUPPORT. WE
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WOULD LIKE TO WISH YOU BLESSINGS AND SUCCESS AND ALL OF YOUR ENDEAVORS. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO EAST POINT. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO ASK FOR PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO GO DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE, BECAUSE I AM PART OF THE ZETA PHI BETA. AMICHAI. YEP.I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL CAN. THEY CAME DRESSED SO NICELY TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE AT EVERY EVENT I KNOW IT MIGHT BE 1 OR 2 HERE, BUT LIKE LITERALLY EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN THE CITY, I ALWAYS SEE WOMEN IN BLUE AND WHITE. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT DOES NOT GO ON. I DON'T CARE WHAT IT FOOD DRIVE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. IF WE'RE JUST HAVING SOMETHING OUT HERE FOR THE KIDS. THE HALLOWEEN I MEAN WHATEVER WE HAVE ZETA PHI BETA ZETA IOTA CHAPTER OF ZETA PHI BETA SORORITY INCORPORATED AND ZETA ARE THERE. AND THAT HAS DEFINITELY HELPED US BE ABLE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW THAT AS A PART OF THE DIVINE NINE SISTERHOOD, THAT THE WORK NEVER STOPS, THAT YOU ALL WILL CONTINUE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I HAVE SEEN YOU HERE WITH US FOR 12 YEARS AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, AND I KNOW YOU WILL BE HERE INTO THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
YES. RIGHT NOW. YOU NEED US TO MOVE IN, BRING IT IN, BRING IT IN. I WANT TO START TALKING. I KNOW HE'S BEEN QUIET ALL NIGHT. NOW YOU WANT TO TELL Y'ALL WHAT TO DO? LOOK, HE'S A SIX MONTH.
NOT GOING TO TELL Y'ALL WHAT TO DO. I'M GOOD. I GOT ON WITHOUT YOU. SO CAN YOU COME IN? YES, MA'AM. I LIKE YOU ONLINE. 321321. THANK YOU. I LOVE YOU. YES.
NEVER SAY NEVER. I'M GOING TO TURN THE NEXT ONE OVER. IS THIS FROM THE CITY MANAGER OR
[XI.7. Special Recognition]
THE CITY CLERK? WHO IS CITY MANAGER, MR. JONES? I DON'T ALWAYS COME UP HERE, BUT KIND OF A SPECIAL OCCASION. SO HAVE A COUPLE OF WORDS THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE. AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO PRESENT. BUT LET ME START OFF WITH GOOD EVENING. TONIGHT, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF RECOGNIZING THE SERVICE OF THREE PUBLIC SERVANTS, THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND SHAPED THE WAY THIS COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED IN MEANINGFUL WAYS. PUBLIC SERVICE, PARTICULARLY AT A LOCAL LEVEL, IS NOT AN EASY WORK. OFTEN IT'S PERSONAL. IT'S HIGHLY VISIBLE AND FREQUENTLY THANKLESS. THOSE WHO STEP[02:20:05]
FORWARD TO DO SO, KNOWING THAT THEY WILL BE ASKED TO BALANCE COMPETING INTERESTS, ABSORB CRITICISM, MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, AND CARRY THE WEIGHT OF A COMMUNITY'S EXPECTATIONS, OFTEN WHILE SACRIFICING THEIR TIME, THEIR PRIVACY, AND THEIR PERSONAL PEACE. I WOULD ARGUE THAT DEMOCRACY DOES NOT BEGIN IN WASHINGTON, D.C. OR ATLANTA, THAT DEMOCRACY ACTUALLY STARTS HERE AT CITY HALL AND CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND IN CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE SOMETIMES UNCOMFORTABLE BUT ALWAYS NECESSARY. EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WE RECOGNIZE TONIGHT CHOSE TO STEP INTO THAT ARENA, GIVE OF THEMSELVES IN SERVICE OF THIS CITY. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE MAYOR DINA HOLLIDAY.INGRAM. MAYOR INGRAM HAS SERVED THE CITY WITH DEEP PASSION AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT. SHE CARES PROFOUNDLY ABOUT EASTPOINTE, HENCE HER MONIKER. THERE IS NO POINT LIKE EAST POINT. SHE CARES ABOUT HIS PEOPLE, ITS NEIGHBORHOODS, ITS FUTURE. EVERYONE WHO WORKED CLOSELY WITH HER KNOWS HER LEADERSHIP IS ROOTED IN CONVICTION AND A STRONG SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE ENTRUSTED HER IN THIS ROLE. WHILE LEADERSHIP IS RARELY WITHOUT TENSION, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT ANY DIFFERENCES THAT I'VE HAD WHILE WORKING WITH MAYOR INGRAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN GROUNDED IN A SHARED DESIRE TO BRING WHAT IS BEST FOR EASTPOINTE TO REALITY. MAYOR INGRAM HAS NEVER LACKED PASSION. SHE HAS NEVER LACKED COURAGE. SHE HAS STOOD FOR HER BELIEFS, EVEN WHEN DOING SO IS DIFFICULT, AND SHE HAS CONSISTENTLY ADVOCATED FOR A COMMUNITY SHE LOVES. SERVING AS MAYOR REQUIRES RESILIENCE, STRENGTH, AND AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PERSONAL INVESTMENT. MARY INGRAM HAS CARRIED THAT RESPONSIBILITY WITH SERIOUSNESS AND RESOLVE FOR HER SERVICE. HER ADVOCACY, AND HER DEDICATION TO THE CITY. WE THANK YOU. NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE COUNCILMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER. SHROPSHIRE HAS BEEN A STRONG AND PERSISTENT VOICE IN THIS COMMUNITY. SHE HAS BROUGHT INTENSITY, PERSPECTIVE AND A DEEP CONCERN FOR THE PEOPLE SHE REPRESENTS. PUBLIC SERVICE DEMANDS THAT WILLINGNESS TO ASK HARD QUESTIONS AND CHALLENGE SYSTEMS. AND I CAN SAY THAT COUNCILWOMAN SHROPSHIRE HAS NEVER HESITATED TO DO SO. THE ROLE OF COUNCIL MEMBER IS NOT TO BE EASY. IT'S TO BE ENGAGED, THOUGHTFUL AND ACCOUNTABLE.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE IS TAKING THAT RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY. SHE HAS SHOWN UP, SHE HAS SPOKE UP, AND SHE HAS REMAINED COMMITTED TO ADVOCATING FOR THE ISSUES FOR HER CONSTITUENTS ON MATTERS THAT SHE BELIEVES MATTERS THE MOST TO THEM. SERVICE AT THIS LEVEL REQUIRES THICK SKIN AND A WILLINGNESS TO STAND IN THE PUBLIC'S EYE. EVEN WHEN DOING SO IS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR HER DEDICATION, HER ENERGY, HER SERVICE TO THE CITY OF EAST POINT. WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION. FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN BUTLER.
JOSHUA GENERALLY HAS ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU. COUNCILMAN BUTLER HAS BROUGHT A THOUGHTFUL, COLLABORATIVE, AND SOLUTION ORIENTED APPROACH TO HIS SERVICE. HE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED A WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN, ENGAGE, AND WORK THROUGH COMPLEX ISSUES WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECT. HIS DEMEANOR, PREPARATION, COMMITMENT TO GOOD GOVERNANCE HAS BEEN EVIDENT IN ALL OF MY WORKINGS WITH HIM. PUBLIC SERVICE BENEFITS GREATLY FROM LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND THAT PROGRESS OFTEN COMES NOT FROM VOLUME, BUT FROM CLARITY,
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CONSISTENCY AND TRUST. COUNCILMAN BUTLER EXEMPLIFIES THIS TYPE OF LEADERSHIP. HIS SERVICE WILL BE HAS MADE THIS ORGANIZATION BETTER. HIS CONTRIBUTIONS WILL BE FELT LONG AFTER HIS TERM, CONCLUDES. JOSH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP, YOUR INTEGRITY, YOUR DEDICATION TO EAST POINT. YOU'LL BE MISSED. SO IN CLOSING, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS PUBLIC SERVICE IS NOT ABOUT PERFECTION. IT'S ABOUT COMMITMENT. IT'S ABOUT SHOWING UP EVEN WHEN THE WORK IS HARD OR THE MEETINGS ARE LONG. IT'S ABOUT WEIGHING THE NEEDS OF MANY WHILE STILL HOLDING COMPASSION FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. FOR EACH OF THESE LEADERS, THEY HAVE ANSWERED THIS CALL IN THEIR OWN WAYS. AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS STAFF ITS RESIDENTS AND MIGHT I SAY, ITS FUTURE. WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE TO MAYOR INGRAM, COUNCILMAN SHROPSHIRE AND COUNCIL MEMBER JOSH BUTLER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, YOUR SACRIFICE AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LEAD. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THIS DEAR CITY OF EAST POINT. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOT TOGETHER AS TOKENS THAT I LIKE TO ASK EACH OF YOU TO COME DOWN AND RECEIVE. I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. ONE THING I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER IS THAT YOU BROUGHT THE TIME INTO THE CITY WITH MORRIS DAY. SO YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE A CLOCK TO KEEP. WHAT TIME IT IS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOSH BUTLER, WOULD YOU MIND? I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS TIMELESS PIECE. I TRY TO GET A ROLEX, BUT IT WASN'T IN THE BUDGET.THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. APPRECIATE YOU.
AND, MAYOR, WOULD YOU MIND JOINING ME? MAKE SURE. OH. PRESENT YOU THIS IN RECOGNITION AND RECOGNITION OF YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. DRES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAME TONIGHT. I KNEW YOU WERE SINGING. MY WIFE IS. THANK YOU. OH.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE CLEARED THE HOUSE WITH ALL THE PRESENTATION.
[XII. COMMITTEE REPORTS]
SO LET'S GET TO THE BUSINESS. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS TONIGHT? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU. JUST A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE OUR BUDGET AND FINANCE MEETING TOMORROW AT 6:30 P.M. I'M SORRY, 6:00 PM. IT'S GOING TO BE VIRTUAL ON ZOOM. THANK YOU. CAN[XIII. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
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WE GET A MOTION? CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 27.SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AS TWO OUT OF THREE. COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE
[XIV.28. & XIV.29.(Part 1 of 2)]
OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT KNOWN AS EAST POINT INNOVATION SOUTH, ALSO KNOWN AS WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN. I SEE WE HAVE ATTORNEY JOHNSON HERE AS WELL AS MR. KOSKI. WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON LAST WEEK. AND TONIGHT WE ADVERTISE THE THAT COUNCIL WILL BE CONSIDERING TO WHETHER OR NOT TO ADOPT THE TAGS THREE AND FOUR. SO I'LL INVITE THEM UP IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S ANY QUESTION OR COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED ON NUMBER THREE. AND THEN THERE IS A RESOLUTION THAT GOES WITH EACH OF THESE, I BELIEVE THERE IS THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY IF THERE'S ACTION TONIGHT, IT WOULD BE ON THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT'S CORRECT. PURSUANT TO NOTICE, YOU HAD A PUBLIC HEARING LAST WEEK ON THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TAX ALLOCATION. DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, WILLINGHAM INNOVATION. AND PURSUANT TO NOTICE YOU ALL ARE THE DECISION IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AS TO WHETHER TO APPROVE THAT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO CREATE A TAX ALLOCATION. DISTRICT NUMBER THREE AND THE REASONING POWERS LAW SAYS THAT AT SUCH MEETING, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN SHALL BE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED, AMENDED AND APPROVED OR REJECTED AND RETURNED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. SO THOSE ARE THE CHOICES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU UNDER THE REDEVELOPMENT POWERS LAW. MR. KOSKI IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES.THANK YOU. I WAS NOT PRESENT LAST MONDAY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I WAS ABLE TO WATCH IT THIS PAST SATURDAY. I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE TAD, PARTICULARLY THE THE SOUTH TAD. I SENT THOSE QUESTIONS IN. THERE HAD BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE CONSULTANT. WE DISCUSSED THIS IN OUR WORK SESSION BACK IN OCTOBER, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY DID SEND OUT A REQUEST FOR QUESTIONS I SENT THOSE IN ON, I THINK, NOVEMBER 20TH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND I'VE NOT GOTTEN A RESPONSE FROM THOSE. AND THEN ALSO BASED ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS SENT TO US ALSO BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS, AND I SENT THOSE IN, AND I HADN'T GOTTEN A RESPONSE OF THOSE EITHER. ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WAS ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES, AND PARTICULARLY THE HOTEL DISTRICT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, DURING THE WORK SESSION BACK ON OCTOBER 13TH, I HAD ASKED IF THE HOTEL DISTRICT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BOUNDARIES. MR. KOSKI SAID HE THOUGHT SO, BUT HE WASN'T SURE. WE RECEIVED. WHEN WE RECEIVED THE REQUEST FOR QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN, BUT I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM THAT.
MET THE DEADLINE BY FIVE DAYS, AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLANS, I SAW THAT IT WASN'T. AND SO I ASKED THE QUESTION AGAIN. SO I KNOW THAT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. KOSKI STATED THAT THE THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 7/10 OF A PERCENTAGE UNTIL WE REACH OUR 10% CAP OF THE DIGEST. BUT MY INTEREST IN THE HOTEL DISTRICT BEING IN THAT, OTHER THAN THE PERCENTAGE IN TERMS OF MEETING THE CAP, WERE THERE OTHER REASONS WHY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BOUNDARIES? I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT, BECAUSE I LOOK AT THE WORK THAT HAYSVILLE IS DOING TO OUR EAST.
I LOOK AT THE WORK THAT COLLEGE PARK IS DOING TO OUR WEST, AND I ALSO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THE HOTELS THAT WERE BUILT ALONG BOBBY BROWN, THEY WERE BUILT BACK FROM THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE OUTPARCELS, AND THEY WERE TO BE RESTAURANTS THERE THAT HAVE YET TO COME. I ALSO THINK THAT THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE CITY HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ATTRACT VISITORS
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AND TOURISTS, PARTICULARLY WEDGED BETWEEN THE WORLD'S BUSIEST PASSENGER AIRPORT AND THEN DOWNTOWN, AND A LOT OF THE SPORTS FACILITIES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY ADJACENT EDEN PARK AND EVEN MARTELL HOMES AND EAST WASHINGTON, MAKING IT REALLY BECOME A DESTINATION. SO OTHER THAN THE 10% OF THE DIGEST WHERE WE'VE GOT, ACCORDING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, 7/10 OF A PERCENTAGE LEFT WHERE THE OTHER REASONS WHY THIS WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE SOUTH BOUNDARY. SO I WON'T LET MR. KOSKI RESPOND. AND AND I THOUGHT HE DID RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS. AND IF IF I MISUNDERSTOOD, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS A PORTION OF THE HOTEL DISTRICT IS INCLUDED, PARTICULARLY THE VACANT PARCELS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE THE HOTELS ARE SET BACK FROM BOBBY BROWN, THAT THAT VACANT PARCEL IS IN THE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS. TED. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE MIGHT WE MIGHT CONSIDER A TAX FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, PARTICULARLY ALONG WASHINGTON ROAD WHERE THERE IS NO TED RIGHT, RIGHT NOW. AND.ONE OF THE REASONS THAT ROOM WAS LEFT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE 10%. IS IT SO THAT THOSE PARCELS COULD BE CONSIDERED NEXT YEAR? BUT I WILL LET MR. KOSKI RESPOND TO FURTHER. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP AND THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF. INSTRUCTIONS, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, NUMBER ONE WAS REALLY FOCUS ON THE VACANT AND AND VACANT LAND AND EMPTY BUILDINGS. SO THAT'S SO IN TERMS OF TRYING TO DETERMINE WHICH PORTIONS OF THE HOTEL AREA SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
THAT WAS THE PRIORITIES GIVEN WAS THE THE LOWEST VALUE BUILDINGS AND THE AREA IN THE LAND THAT WAS VACANT. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NEVER A BOUNDARY OF A HOTEL DISTRICT THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THIS. SO WE WE INCLUDED THE, THE, THE PARCELS IN THE HOTEL AREA OF TOWN BY BOBBY BROWN THAT ARE MET THE CRITERIA OF THE REST OF THE WILLINGHAM DISTRICT, OF WHICH WE DID GO CLOSELY WITH THE LCI. SO THE LCI WAS ANOTHER GUIDING DOCUMENT, THE WILLINGHAM LCI. AND SO WE WE REALLY FOCUSED ON A LOT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT WAS NOTED IN THE LCI PLAN AS WELL. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, TOGETHER WITH HAVING TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS ABOUT THAT 10% CAP, ALL FACTORED INTO THAT AND THE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WILLING, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM OTHER COUNCILORS AT THE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY OTHER INITIATIVE ABOUT ANY OTHER PARCELS TO BE ADDED OR EXCLUDED. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THE TOTALITY OF HOW THAT THE DECISIONS WERE MADE ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PARCEL IN THE, IN THE HOTEL AREA. YES. SO UNDERSTANDING THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I MET ALL OF THE GUIDELINES AND THE DEADLINES FOR THE QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, I STATED THAT I SUBMITTED THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT I DID NOT GET A RESPONSE. AND SO I WAS I WAS PREPARED TO ANSWER THEM THAT LAST, LAST WEEK, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BE HERE. I STATED THAT AT THE WORK SESSION BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE VOTE, AND I ALSO STATED THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A QUORUM BECAUSE THE MEETING BEFORE, WHEN WE TRIED TO MEET, WE DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM. YES. AND SO I SO AND I ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AN EMPHASIS OR A PRIORITY ON VACANT OR EMPTY STRUCTURES. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A MEETING THAT I MISSED, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING A CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL. AND SO THINKING BACK TO WHEN WE WORKED WITH KB GROUP ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, I DO REMEMBER VERY WELL THAT WE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH YOUR TEAM. I REMEMBER GABBY, I THINK I HAD TWO WITH GABBY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE TEAM. I'VE NEVER HAD A MEETING WITH ANYONE ABOUT THIS, AND PARTICULARLY AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM WARD B AT LARGE IN BOTH OF THE PROPOSED HAZARD AND WARD B, I HAD QUESTIONS THAT NEVER GOT ANSWERED. NO RESPONSES TO THOSE THINGS. SO THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE. IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CAPTURE THE INCREMENTS BASED ON THE 2025 ASSESSMENTS, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IF PARCELS ARE NOT IN THE BOUNDARIES, THAT WE CANNOT USE DOLLARS FOR THOSE. AND I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PARTICULARLY THE HOTEL DISTRICT, WHEN I GO TO MEETINGS AT EGAN PARK, NOT ONLY THE VACANT LAND, BUT THERE ARE SOME STRUCTURES OVER THERE THAT ARE CRIME RIDDEN, AND THEY'RE NUISANCES TO THOSE COMMUNITIES. AND GIVEN
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THE FACT THAT IN 2026, WE'RE GOING TO ATLANTA REGION WILL HOST THE FIFA WORLD CUP IN 28, WE'LL HAVE THE SUPER BOWL AND 31, WE'LL HAVE THE NAACP, THE NBA, THE NCAA MEN'S FINAL FOUR.AND SO AGAIN, TRYING TO JUST CAPTURE TOURISTS TO GET MORE HEADS IN BEDS, MORE HOTEL, MOTEL TAXES FOR OTHER SERVICES IN THE CITY. I JUST WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HAD A MORE COLLABORATIVE EXPERIENCE ON THIS, AND I JUST FELT THAT THAT WAS LACKING. AND BECAUSE I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO BE HERE, I SENT THE QUESTIONS IN. I NEVER GOT RESPONSES. I WILL SAY ABOUT THE PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING. I ADDRESSED THIS BOARD AND SAID, THIS IS AN EXTREMELY FAST PROCESS IN WHICH TO PASS TWO TAGS, SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALSO MENTIONING THAT I HEARD YOU SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU SAID THAT THIS WAS FAST TRACKED AND THAT IT WAS A BIT UNUSUAL. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE COUNCIL WOULD PERMIT A RESPONSE TO THOSE QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. WELL, MR. COSBY SAID HE WAS PREPARED TO ANSWER THEM LAST WEEK. SO IF HE WAS PREPARED TO ANSWER THEM LAST WEEK, HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM TONIGHT, RIGHT. ALL THE PARCELS THAT YOU HAD IN THE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT, I, I DIDN'T I WASN'T IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND COMMUNICATION COMMAND.
I WASN'T EMAILING WITH ANYONE, ANYONE UP HERE. SO. ALL THE PARCELS THAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT ARE IN THE TAD. THE PARCEL THAT I ASKED ABOUT ALSO WAS THE HOTEL DISTRICT, AND IT'S NOT ACCORDING TO THE. WELL, OKAY, SORRY, THE THE PARTICULAR PARCELS THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT ARE IN THE TAD THE HOTEL DISTRICT. AS WE SAID, WE MADE SOME SOME DECISIONS. SO I DON'T HAVE THE PRINTOUT OF THE EMAILS. I COULD I COULD PULL THEM UP IF YOU IF YOU WOULD PREFER, I CAN PULL UP THE EMAILS AND WE CAN GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE. WELL, IF THE MY BIG FOCUS IS, AS I STATED, THE HOTEL DISTRICT AND SO THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME. WELL, I MEAN, I TOLD YOU THE ANSWER TO MR. YES. IT MAY REQUIRE SOME DECISIONS BY THE BODY AS A CONSENSUS, AND IT MAY REQUIRE US DECIDING THAT MAYBE PARTS OF THE NORTH TAD MIGHT BE SWAPPED OUT. AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO. I SENT THOSE QUESTIONS IN LIKE THREE WEEKS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO DO COMMITTEE WORK AT THIS TIME, BUT WITH JUST I JUST I CAN'T LET HIM FINISH MORE COLLABORATIVE. I THINK MAYBE THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION IN HOW THE CHAIN OF COMMAND WAS GOING TO GO, BECAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING BLAMED FOR NOT ADDRESSING YOUR ANSWERS. I'M NOT. I'M NOT BLAMING YOU, OKAY? NOT AT ALL, MR. KOSKI. ALL I SAID IS THAT THERE WAS AN EMAIL ASKING FOR QUESTIONS. I SENT THOSE QUESTIONS IN, GOT THOSE IN WITH FIVE DAYS BEFORE THAT DEADLINE. I ALSO REVIEWED THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS AND I SENT IN QUESTIONS. SO I DIDN'T BLAME ANYONE. I DIDN'T BLAME YOU FOR THAT. I'M JUST SIMPLY STATING THE FACT THAT I DID ASK QUESTIONS WELL IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE COULD GET RESPONSES AND THEN HAVE DISCUSSIONS HERE. SO I WASN'T BLAMING YOU, SO I'M SORRY THAT YOU TOOK IT THAT WAY. MADAM MAYOR. IF I COULD JUMP IN.
SO JUST FOR, FOR SOME CONTEXT. SO IF YOU RECALL WHEN THIS ALL STARTED, I MET WITH CHARLES AND MR. KOSKI. WELL, ATTORNEY JOHNSON, SORRY. AND MR. KOSKI, WE MET. AND OUT OF THAT MEETING, WE PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS AN IDEA. THAT IDEA INCLUDED HOTEL. IT INCLUDED THE SYLVAN ROAD. IT INCLUDED STUFF DOWN WILLINGHAM BECAUSE WE WERE TYING IN THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY THAT HAD OCCURRED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND IT JUST MADE SENSE THAT IT WOULD NOW TRY TO COME INTO FRUITION THROUGH THIS TAB. AT THE MEETING, HOWEVER, IT WAS INTRODUCED THAT WE GO SOMEWHERE NORTH. ALONG 166. AND SO THEN THAT'S HOW WE THEN SPLIT IN TWO TABS FROM FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THIS BODY AT A WORK SESSION. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS BODY TO SEND IN QUESTIONS. I GOT QUESTIONS FROM TWO OF YOU FROM COUNCILMAN ATKINS AND COUNCILMAN BUTLER. BOTH SETS OF QUESTIONS WAS FORWARDED TO THE TEAM FOR WHICH THERE THERE IS LIKE. TEN EMAILS IN RESPONSE TO. TO THE QUESTIONS. I GOT COUNCILMAN ATKINS QUESTION ON.
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1121 WAS FORWARDED TO THE TEAM ON 1122. AND I THINK WHAT OCCURRED BECAUSE COUNCILMAN BUTLER CHIMED IN ON THE SAME THREAD THAT IT JUST GOT ALL JUMBLED IN THERE TOGETHER. I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THERE WAS AN INTENTION NOT TO CONSIDER YOUR. REQUEST FOR THE HOTEL ROLE TO BE INCLUDED. I THINK AFTER LEAVING THE WORK SESSION, WHERE A CONSENSUS OF YOU ADDED THAT I'M CALLING IT THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S IT'S NORTH OF THE SYLVAN ROAD AND THE NORMAN BERRY AREA. THAT'S RIGHT NOW IN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT THE CONSENSUS OF CONSENSUS OF YOU AT THAT MEETING CHANGED WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO INCLUDE THIS NEW AREA THAT THIS TEAM HAD NEVER EVEN CONSIDERED. WHEN WE WHEN WE MET. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN ATKINS, WE DID RECEIVE IT. THE TEAM DID GET IT. AND WHEN THERE WERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I THINK IT REALLY JUST GOT BURIED UNDER THE OTHER EMAIL CHAIN THAT WAS ADDED AFTER YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE YOUR QUESTION WAS FIRST, AND THEN BUTLER'S QUESTIONS CAME THROUGH. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT CHANGING AT THIS POINT TO CONSIDER THOSE ADDITIONAL PARCELS, PARCELS ALONG VIRGINIA AVENUE WOULD BE DIFFICULT. I ALSO RECALL DURING THAT WORK SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE CHARACTER OF THE HOTEL DISTRICT IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE TWO SEPARATE TAGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING. HOPE THAT PROVIDES SOME CONTEXT AND HISTORY. BUT YES, YOU DID SEND IT IN. WE DID RECEIVE IT, AND WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST OF EMAILS THAT SOUGHT TO ADDRESS IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT IT DID GET BURIED AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. AND SO I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAD RESPONDED TO, TO TO YOUR QUESTIONS. AND, AND I AS I RECALL, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WAS MADE WAS THAT THE HOTEL PROPERTIES THEMSELVES WILL NOT SEE THE LEVEL OF GROWTH THAT SOME OF THESE INDUSTRIAL AND VACANT PARCELS WOULD SEE. WELL, THAT WAS THE JUDGMENT THAT WAS MADE, AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION. SO THAT SO THAT THERE IS PROPERTY ADJACENT TO HOTELS THAT IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES, HOTELS THEMSELVES, A LOT OF HOTELS THEMSELVES ARE NOT FOR THAT REASON. AND I APPRECIATE THOSE RESPONSES. AND EVEN TO THAT, MR. JOHNSON, THANK YOU. BECAUSE ON SATURDAY WE HAD OUR WINTER WONDERLAND FOR WARD B, AND I HAD CONSTITUENTS ASKING ME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TAD. AND I JUST SIMPLY SAID, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE, I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS, I'VE NOT GOTTEN A RESPONSE. AND ONE GENTLEMAN ASKED, HE SAID, I ALSO THINK I HEARD THAT THE DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN IN A TAD FOR YEARS, AND I SAID YES. AND THE QUESTION THEN WAS, WELL, WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME IF THE DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN IN THE TAD FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS AND WE SEEM TO BE LAGGING FROM OUR PARTNERS, WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT? AND I SAID THAT THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION OF OUR CITY MANAGER, WHO'S NEW, WORKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHY IT HASN'T TAKEN OFF AS IT WAS HOPED, I'M SURE, BUT THOSE ARE. I GOT QUESTIONS ON SATURDAY. I HAD NO RESPONSES TO THOSE AND ALL I COULD SAY WAS, I DON'T KNOW. I I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS AND NOT RECEIVED RESPONSES. SO ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE OTHER TAD PROPOSALS, DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS AND WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED FOR DOWNTOWN IS THAT IN THE TRANSACTION INVOLVING DOWNTOWN, THE CITY IS THE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU KNOW, AND IN EVERY OTHER TAD THAT WE'VE DONE, EVERY OTHER TAD PROJECT WE'VE CONSIDERED, THE DEVELOPER HAS ASSEMBLED AND OWNED THE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S A KEY DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT THE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF HAS BEEN CAUGHT UP IN, IN WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THE CAPACITY OF THE DEVELOPER, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY. AND WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T APPROACHED THAT ISSUE IN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY.THANK YOU. I'LL YIELD AT THIS TIME. COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOW ARE
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YOU GENTLEMEN DOING? I THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WERE SAID IN THAT MEETING AND AND THEN MEETING TONIGHT THAT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH. ALSO, WHAT I THINK FOR ME, THIS IS JUST IT'S NOT A NO, IT'S A DELAY BECAUSE ONE OF THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU BOTH HAVE PUT INTO THIS PLAN AND THAT NOT I RECOGNIZE THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK PART OF MY HEARTBURN IS A LOT OF INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN. AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO GAVE THOSE INSTRUCTIONS BECAUSE HERE'S MY THIS IS WHERE I AM. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THIS URGENCY IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO LOCK IN THE VALUATION OF THE PROPERTIES AS THEY ARE IN 2025, BECAUSE IN 2026 THEY'RE UNKNOWN. AND I THINK THAT'S VALID. BUT IF 2026 GOES WHERE WE HAVE A RECESSION, THEN THOSE PROPERTY VALUES MAY GO DOWN. SO WE'RE TRYING TO HEDGE OUR BETS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF THAT. THEY'RE MY CONCERNS OF THIS. IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE PASSED A TAB, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A PROJECT WITH THE TAB. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO WE HAVE THE OUTLINING OF SOME AREAS. AND MY SECOND CONCERN WITH THAT IS THAT WE'RE RUNNING OUR TAB UP TO 9.3%, WHERE WE ONLY HAVE 7% AVAILABLE. IN MY ESTIMATION, IN ORDER TO REALLY SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT IS MY OPINION THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO ATTACK SOME OF THOSE SHOPPING AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE THOSE AREAS AND REALLY SPUR DEVELOPMENT FROM THAT AREA. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HITLER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO PROPERTIES ON WASHINGTON ROAD.I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO GO UP AND MIXED USE TO THAT AND EXPLORE THIS TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT IN ORDER TO HELP THIS CAPITAL STACK RATE FOR DEVELOPERS. SO THEY WILL COME INTO THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE SITES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IS IN THE S AND A RECYCLING, AND I'M MY QUESTION AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE A INCENTIVE TO REDEVELOP. AND SO NOW WE ARE TYING UP WHAT POTENTIALLY CAN BE ALLOCATED FOR ANOTHER TAB WITH A PROPERTY THAT WON'T BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL DECADES, AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE ANY INCENTIVE TO DO THAT. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF MY CONCERNS WITH WHAT WE HAVE. I THINK THAT. THOSE ARE SOME OF MY CONCERNS AND I'LL YIELD MY TIME TO MY COLLEAGUES.
BUT I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS HERE. BUT FOR BREVITY'S SAKE, I'LL LEAVE IT. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE CHIMED IN. YOU CAN KEEP GOING. OKAY. SO I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THOSE AREAS IN ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS AS AN INCENTIVIZATION TOOL. THEN WE CAN HAVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. PEOPLE SAY, LOOK, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE THIS PROPERTY IN A TAX ALLOCATION DISTRICT SO THAT WE CAN MITIGATE YOUR RISK AS YOU IMPROVE THESE SITES. AND I THINK BY TYING UP SO MUCH LAND WITH INSTRUCTIONS THAT JUST CAME, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. IF I CAN RESPOND THIS WAY, AND JUST BY WAY OF CLARIFICATION, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THERE ARE PROJECTS SPECIFIC TO ADS IN THEIR AREA. TED'S A PROJECT SPECIFIC TAB. YOU ARE CORRECT THAT, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPER COMES TO US AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THIS THIS, THIS AREA IDENTIFIED AT, I'VE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY OR I'M ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY, AND I WANT THIS INCENTIVE, YOU KNOW, IN A DISTRICT CREATED AROUND, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZING THIS DEVELOPMENT, AN AREA TED IS IS A MUCH LARGER AREA OF OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU YOU HOPE THAT THAT THAT YOU WILL ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY TO DEVELOP IN SOME PART OF THAT AREA. SO THE ONLY PROJECT SPECIFIC TED THAT EASTPOINTE HAS CREATED HAS BEEN CAMP CREEK. OKAY. WE HAD IT. WE HAD NORTH AMERICAN AND DUKE COME TO US AND SAY, WE IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO WORK, WE NEED THIS
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THIS INCENTIVE MECHANISM. THE THE CORRIDORS. TED IS AN AREA. TED. AND SO THAT YOU HAVE SEEN ONE PROJECT, THE WALMART SUPERCENTER PROJECT ON CLEVELAND AVENUE CROSSING DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, THE THAT DEVELOPER WAS THEORETICALLY AT LEAST ATTRACTED TO DEVELOP THAT SITE BECAUSE THE TED HAD BEEN CREATED IN A LARGE AREA THAT INCLUDED THE THAT SITE. SO THAT'S THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO MAKE. SO, SO THAT WE'VE DONE BOTH THE AREA TED'S AND PROJECT SPECIFIC SPECIFIC TED'S. BUT SO YES. SO THAT WE'VE DONE BOTH. COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS. YES. AND I WANTED TO JUST REITERATE, MR. JOHNSON, THAT I LIVE NEAR THE CAMP CREEK AREA. I PURCHASED A HOME BASED UPON THAT TAD AT THE TIME, WHICH HAS TAKEN OFF. WE SUCCESSFULLY PAID IT OFF. BUT SOME OF THE STORES THAT WERE THERE IN THAT AREA AT THE TIME WAS WHAT DREW ME TO THE AREA. THERE WAS A PIER ONE THERE. TARGET WAS THERE. THERE WAS ALSO A WORLD MARKET THERE. SO THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS. BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THIS THAT THE PURPOSE OF A TAD IS TO ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE LACK IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THESE MEETINGS. I, AS A WORKING PROFESSIONAL, IF I CAN FIND THE TIME TO CHECK EMAILS BEFORE GOING TO WORK, AND IMMEDIATELY WHEN I LEAVE WORK AND I'M ALWAYS SENDING A FOLLOW UP EMAIL, AM I NOT MR. JONES? IF I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING, I WILL TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO FOLLOW UP MYSELF. SOMETHING OF THIS BIG OF A DEAL. I THINK THAT SOME OWNERSHIP PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED ON COUNCIL MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT SAT HERE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A FEW MEETINGS. BUT THE PURPOSE OF A TAD IS TO STIMULATE PRIVATE INVESTMENT, REVITALIZE DECLINING AREAS, CREATE JOBS, AND EXPAND THE THE TAX BASE RIGHT IN THAT AREA WHERE THE TAD IS GOING TO BE IS AS SOON AS YOU GO UP UNDER THAT OVERPASS. THE CITY OF ATLANTA HAS SOMETHING CALLED INVEST ATLANTA, WHERE THEY HAVE TAKEN OFF WITH ALL OF THESE TOOLS IN THEIR TOOLBOX FOR REDEVELOPMENT. LIKE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND AT LEAST TAKE THE FIRST STEP IN REVITALIZING AREAS THAT CAN USE IT. WHEN YOU ALL FIRST CAME BEFORE US, THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS THE AREA IN WHICH THIS TAD IS GOING TO BE.IT'S NEAR THE EXPRESSWAY. THE FIRST THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS A GROCERY STORE. HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE DRAWN TO THE AREA BECAUSE THERE WAS A GROCERY STORE, OR AN ADDITIONAL COFFEE HOUSE, OR OTHER ECONOMIC ENGINES THAT WOULD JUST BRING PEOPLE TO THE AREA TO CONTINUE TO PUT EASTPOINTE ON THE MAP. SO, I MEAN, I HAVE ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS. I HAD QUESTIONS, BUT CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE IS THE BEST EXAMPLE THAT THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HAS AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO A TAD AND THE ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR US, THAT ATTACK CAN BRING TO A CITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. AND I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT. SO THE, THE, THE THE POINT THAT YOU MAKE THAT YOU STARTED OUT WITH ILLUSTRATES THE POINT THAT ALL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE LIFE CYCLES, WHETHER IT'S CAMP CREEK OR ATLANTIC STATION. IF YOU TURNED ON THE TELEVISION TODAY, YOU LEARNED ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE LEAVING ATLANTIC STATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ATLANTIC STATION HAS HAS A LIFE CYCLE, JUST LIKE CAMP CREEK HAS A LIFE CYCLE. YOU KNOW, CAMP CREEK IS NO DIFFERENT FROM ATLANTIC STATION IN THAT REGARD. COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THESE TANS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS A TON OF WORK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT AND KIND OF PUTTING IT INTO A VERY LONG AND THOROUGH DOCUMENT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I AM FOR TANS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE IN MY WARD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO GET A TON OF COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS AND FROM BUSINESSES. DESCRIBING DISPLEASURE ON
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LIVING NEXT TO THESE VACANT PROPERTIES AND TO COUNCILMAN ADKINS POINT IN EDEN PARK. THEY CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT PROBLEMATIC HOTELS, AND IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT I THINK THAT WE WE NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DISCUSS BECAUSE THESE ARE BIG DEALS. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKING SOME TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT FIRST, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED ALL THE PARCELS THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, DELAY THIS INDEFINITELY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING THIS YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE WE JUST GET IT RIGHT, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR WARD B FOR EASTPOINT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF EYES ARE GOING TO BE ON THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESPOND AND BE ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE. AND I THINK IT'S JUST FAIR THAT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ALIGNED ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. THANK YOU.COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. JOHNSON. IF CAN YOU EXPLAIN IF THEY IF THE TAG IS NOT APPROVED TONIGHT AND THEY WAIT TILL MAYBE NEXT YEAR TO DO IT, WHAT? WHEN WILL IT GO INTO EFFECT? AND THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. OR HOW WILL IT AFFECT IT? SO IF THE CITY CREATES A TAD ANYTIME AFTER JANUARY 1ST, ANYTIME AFTER DECEMBER 31ST, THE TAD WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY 1ST OF 2027. SO YOU WILL LOSE.
IF THERE'S ANY GROWTH IN THE DIGEST, IT WILL BE LOST TO THE TAD. IF DURING 2026 IT WILL BE LOST TO THE TAD. IF YOU DELAY UNTIL THE FIRST OF THE YEAR IN CREATING. THAT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT YOU JUST YOU DESIRE TO YOU ARE WILLING TO ASSUME THE, YOU KNOW, THE RISK OF OF THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DELAY, BUT IN FACT, YOU WOULD LOSE ANY APPRECIATION THAT HAPPENS IN 2026. THANK YOU. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST DOING A TAD. SO WHEN BUSINESS COME LIKE SAY THERE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL BUSINESS FOR AND I GET THEM MIXED UP THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. WHAT IS THAT PROPERTY. THE SOUTH IS WILLINGHAM AND WILLINGHAM INNOVATION OKAY. IN THE NORTH IS SYLVAN OAKLEY OKAY? I THINK THAT'S IT. SO IF A DEVELOPER WANTED TO COME AND WANTED THE TAD, IT WOULD NOT BE THERE.
THEY WOULD NOT GET THE TECH. THE TAX ALLOCATED BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE FOR THAT. THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE WE HAVE SO THE CITY HAS RECEIVED INTEREST AS INTEREST IN AT LEAST A PROPERTY IN THE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION AREA. AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY CAN WILL BE PATIENT ENOUGH TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. TO SEE WHETHER YOU ALL ARE, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO CREATE THIS DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, OR WHETHER THE DEVELOPER MIGHT DECIDE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHO KNOWS? WE YOU RUN THAT RISK AND THEN THE CITY, IF THEY DECIDE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN THE CITY WILL LOSE OUT. OKAY, SO BASICALLY, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A TAD, A TAD, A TAD, THERE'S STILL INTEREST THERE FOR BUSINESS, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO GROW. IF YOU WAIT. IN THE INTEREST OF THE BUSINESS THAT'S ALREADY INTERESTED, MAY GO ELSEWHERE AND THEN THE CITY WILL LOSE BECAUSE YOU WOULD LOSE A WHOLE YEAR BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL 2027. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST ALSO ADD TO YOUR QUESTION THE OTHER THING THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER PROCEDURALLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RE-ADVERTISED ALL OVER AGAIN. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL. THAT'S GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. I'LL COME BACK. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION REALLY QUICK. HOW AMENABLE ARE THE TASK, SO TO SAY IF WE SIGN THIS RESOLUTION, PUT IT IN PLACE, WILL WE HAVE TO WAIT A
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CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE? IF SOME TYPE OF CHANGE NEED TO BE MADE OR WE HAVE TO WAIT OR I DON'T KNOW, WELL, YOU CAN AMEND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN YOU CAN AMEND TONIGHT OR YOU CAN AMEND. YOU KNOW YOU CAN IF YOU IF YOU VOTE ON THIS SOME OTHER TIME THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW THEN THAT YOU KNOW, THAT AMENDMENT WILL STILL BE IN EFFECT IF YOU AMEND IF YOU CREATE THE TED THIS YEAR AND AMENDED NEXT YEAR, IT'S YOU MIGHT AS WELL CREATE A NEW TED, RIGHT. BECAUSE UNDER THE LAW, IF YOU CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES, YOU RESET THE BASE. BUT THAT STILL WON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL THE NEXT A YEAR FROM NOW. YEAH. OKAY. I WAS JUST SITTING AND THINKING ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ATTORNEY WIGGINS, HOW MUCH NOTICE HAS TO BE GIVEN BEFORE THE VOTE? THE PUBLIC THE BEFORE THE MEETING. SO THERE'S A NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE'S NOTICE FOR ACTION ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. RIGHT? YES. SO THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY SHALL CAUSE THE DATE, TIME, PLACE AND PURPOSE OF SUCH MEETING TO BE ADVERTISED IN ONE OR MORE NEWSPAPERS OF GENERAL CIRCULATION WITHIN THE AREA OF THE OPERATION, AT LEAST ONCE DURING A PERIOD OF FIVE DAYS IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE DATE OF THE HEARING. THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT PROVIDES THAT THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY, YOU JUST SAID THE FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE HEARING, BEFORE THE FIVE FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE MEETING, AND THEN THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE HEARING. SO YOU GOT FIVE DAYS. YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE BEFORE THE MEETING. SO THIS WOULD BE THE MEETING IN WHICH YOU IN WHERE YOU CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE TAD. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE. SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE FIVE DAYS ON THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'VE DONE IT FOR BOTH. RIGHT. BUT THERE WAS DURING THE DISCUSSION, COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER MENTIONED MAYBE POSSIBLY HAVING ANOTHER MEETING THIS MONTH. AND SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY DAYS NOTICE WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THIS MONTH WHERE POTENTIAL ACTION COULD BE TAKING PLACE. I JUST LOOKED AT THE CALENDARS. MADAM CITY CLERK, THE NOTICE HAS TO GET TO THE PAPER. ABOUT WHAT? TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY? ON TUESDAY. SO THAT'S TOMORROW? YES, TOMORROW. AND IF IT GETS THERE BY TOMORROW, WHAT HAPPENS? WHEN DOES IT START RUNNING? IT SHOULD START IF I DO THE EMERGENCY FOR TOMORROW, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE. IT DEFINITELY WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE ONLINE PAPER FOR SURE. BUT IN THE PHYSICAL PAPER, NO, BUT ONLINE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND EVERYTHING. YES. IF I DO IT TOMORROW MORNING. SO IF YOU DO IT TOMORROW MORNING, WHEN DOES IT GET PUBLISHED? OH, IT'LL BE IT'LL BE PUBLISHED ONLINE THE FOLLOWING DAY BECAUSE THE SOUTH FULTON NEIGHBOR COMES OUT ON WEDNESDAYS. SO IT'LL BE ON WEDNESDAY THE 17TH. YES, MA'AM. WHEN WOULD THE HARD COPY GO OUT? I WILL HAVE TO. I WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR TWO SEPARATE ADS. THE HARD COPY WILL HAVE TO GO OUT THE FOLLOWING WEEK. SO THE ONLINE WOULD GO OUT ON THE 17TH AND THE HARD COPY WOULD GO OUT ON THE 24TH. YES, MA'AM. DOES THE LAW DISTINGUISH BETWEEN ONLINE AND HARD COPY? LET ME RESEARCH THAT, BUT LET ME CLARIFY WHAT I SAID. SO IF YOU GUYS REJECT IT, THEN WE HAVE TO START BACK FROM PUBLIC HEARING.I IT DOESN'T SAY ABOUT DEFERRING. RIGHT. SO IF YOU DEFER IT THEN I THINK WE CAN START BACK AT THE FIVE DAYS JUST TO RE ADVERTISE THE MEETING. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE.
NOW WHETHER OR NOT ADVERTISEMENT CAN BE ONLINE I NEED TO RESEARCH THAT. SO THIS LAW WAS DEVELOPED BEFORE THE BEFORE THE BEFORE ONLINE BECAME A POSSIBILITY. FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING. ONE MORE TIME. IF IT HAS TO BE HARD COPY AND IT GOES IN, IT WOULD START RUNNING ON THE 24TH AND FIVE DAYS WOULD BE 24TH, FIFTH, SIXTH, SEVENTH, EIGHTH, NINTH TO DO IT. THE EARLIEST WOULD BE THE 30TH OR THE 31ST. SO I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING. LET ME LET ME ASK THE LAWYER HERE. FIVE DAYS IS LESS THAN SEVEN, AND THERE'S THE STATUTE IN TITLE ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT COUNTING DAYS. I THINK WE'RE I IT JUST IT DOESN'T SAY BUSINESS OR. CALENDAR. OKAY. SO LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD IF POSSIBLE IT WOULD BE THE END OF THE MONTH
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THE 30TH OR THE 31ST. MY QUESTION IS IS HOW OFTEN IS DEVELOPED LAND INCLUDED IN TAD'S. SO PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED, THAT'S NOT BLIGHTED BECAUSE I THINK IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU MENTIONED BLIGHT AS ONE OF THE THINGS TO LOOK FOR AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAD'S AND REDEVELOPMENT AND. RIGHT, I MEAN, NOT EVERY PROPERTY IN A TAD HAS TO BE BLIGHTED OR DECLINING OR IN LACKING OF INFRASTRUCTURE. SO YOU CAN PUT INDIVIDUAL PARCELS IN A TAD THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT NECESSARILY CONFORM TO THE GENERAL REASON AS TO WHY THERE IS A TAD. SO THE THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THERE ARE PLENTY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF PADS THAT HAVE BUILDINGS INSIDE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, FULLY FUNCTIONING BUILDINGS. IT'S NOT I MEAN, THIS HAS BUILDINGS LIKE I'M SUGGESTING. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS. YES, THIS I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING STRANGE ABOUT EITHER OF THESE. TAD'S AS THEY AS THEY ARE DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO PASS THEM JUST IN TERMS OF OUTSIDE THE LINES OF A TYPICAL TAD IN GEORGIA, THESE ARE VERY TYPICAL TAD'S IN GEORGIA. SO THE CAMP CREEK BUSINESS CENTER WAS HALF DEVELOPED AT THE TIME THE TAD WAS CREATED, BUT IT WAS A LARGE AREA THAT INCLUDED THE VACANT AREA WHERE THE THE MARKETPLACE IS NOW AND A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY IN THE BUSINESS CENTER. SO THEY SO WE CREATED IT WHEN WE WHEN THE CITY CREATED CAMP CREEK, IT INCLUDED A DISTRICT THAT INCLUDED TOTALLY UNDEVELOPED AREAS AND AREAS WHERE YOU HAD A CHECKERBOARD OF DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU CAN DO BOTH. HAVE YOU ALL DETERMINED THE VALUE, THE TAX DIGEST VALUE OF THE HOTELS? I MEAN, WHICH ONE? THAT'S THE COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS QUESTION.WELL, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL DISTRICT AND WE'VE BEEN USING THAT TERM LOOSELY. AND SO I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT ONLY BOBBY BROWN, BUT ALSO ON VIRGINIA AVENUE AND MAYBE UP TO PERHAPS WHEREVER WE'RE MEETING, EITHER BY THE KFC OR SOMEPLACE ALONG THERE. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD ANY PARTICULAR PARCELS OF HEARING ABOUT THESE. SO I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE PARTICULARS ON ANY OF THAT. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE PUT IN THE PORTIONS OF THE HOTEL DISTRICT THAT ARE MOST LIKELY TO REDEVELOP IN THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME. BUT I COULD ABSOLUTELY PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PARCEL. I MEAN, IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, LISTED. OUR DATA COMES FROM THE FULTON COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR'S DATABASE. SO IT'S ALL PUBLIC TO ANYONE AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CERTAINLY PULL UP THAT, MAKE SOME, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME MAPS TO SHOW YOU WHAT WHAT THE VALUES ARE. BUT AGAIN, ANY ANY ADDITIONS DOWN THERE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE HOTEL DISTRICT WOULD PROBABLY MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE SOME, SOME OUT OF SOMEWHERE. SO, YOU KNOW. THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME PROCESS OF DISCUSSION AROUND THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S, AS YOU SAID, BEST DONE HERE. SO IF THERE WAS ANOTHER MEETING TO TRY TO GET THIS TAD PASSED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, I WOULD SAY WE WOULD ALSO WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE PRODUCTIVE WITH OUR TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR, TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE GOAL, YOU KNOW, OF WHY WE'RE WAITING, IF THERE'S OTHER REASONS TO WAIT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION. BUT SURE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE HERE TO SERVE YOU. YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. WELL, MIKE WAS ON TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE HOTEL DISTRICT IN TERMS OF PROCESS. THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A PROCESS ALREADY ESTABLISHED. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO ALTER OR CHANGE THAT. I'M AMENABLE. LIKE I WAS USING THE EXAMPLE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO HAVE ONE ON ONES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO OR HOW WE WANT TO DO IT, BUT I'M AMENABLE. I'VE JUST NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION. I'VE MENTIONED IT EVEN IN THE WORK SESSION ON THE 13TH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHEN IT SHOWED UP. SO I WILL SAY THAT I AM ASKING WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD PHONE CONVERSATIONS. I MEAN, I
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UNDERSTAND THAT, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY, BECAUSE I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULDN'T GET HERE BECAUSE EVEN IN THE 13TH WORK SESSION, I SAID, PERHAPS WE CAN LOOK AT A MAP AND TALK ABOUT BOUNDARIES. THAT NEVER HAPPENED. OKAY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS THAT IS REALLY ESTABLISHED AND HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. BUT I'M AMENABLE TO THOSE THINGS, WHATEVER. IT'S GOING TO WORK BEST. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. YES, AND I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE HOTELS AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO, I GUESS, JUST BRIEFLY BE EDUCATED ON.BASED UPON YOUR EXPERIENCE, IF A HOTEL IS IN THE DISTRICT, TO WHAT DEGREE WILL IT? I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THE HOTEL IS IN THAT DISTRICT? I READ A LITTLE AND IT SAYS, OKAY, SIDEWALKS, MAYBE SOME BEAUTIFICATION. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A MENTION OF THE WORLD'S IS IT THE WORLD CUP COMING HERE AND WANTING OUR CITY TO LOOK GOOD, BUT WE STILL WOULDN'T HAVE. IT TAKES TIME OVER TIME TO DEVELOP THESE AREAS. BUT TO MY POINT, IF A HOTEL IS IN THAT DISTRICT, I GUESS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHAT DO THEY RECEIVE OR WHAT KIND OF LIMITATIONS? OR IT WOULDN'T BE A LIMITATION, BUT WHAT WOULD THEY GET IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY? BECAUSE OVER OFF CAMP CREEK, THOSE HOTELS WERE BUILT. IT'S ABOUT 44.
SHERIDAN, A HOLIDAY INN. IT'S A MARRIOTT. AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ONE, MAYBE A HOLIDAY INN, ACTUALLY A FIFTH ONE NEAR THE MOVIE THEATER. AND THEN THERE'S ONE ON THE LAKE. THOSE HOTELS WERE BUILT INTO THE TAG. BUT IF YOU COULD EDUCATE ME, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT THEY WANT THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS CENTERED AROUND HOTELS BEING IN THE TAG. WHAT EXACTLY WOULD A HOTEL? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THEM BEING IN THE TAG IN LAYMAN'S TERMS? WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE REDEVELOPMENT POWERS. SO MOSTLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT. SO THE TAG WOULD BECOME INTO PLAY LARGELY ON ANY PARCEL, WHETHER IT'S A HOTEL, AN INDUSTRIAL SITE, A VACANT SITE, A FORMER ANYTHING IF OR IF IT'S ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ACTIVE BUSINESS AND THEY WANT TO DO REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT. THE CITY MAY WANT TO COME IN AND DO SOME INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP THEM WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT. SO IF THEY'RE IN A TAD, THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO HELP WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT. THE THE REDEVELOPMENT. RIGHT.
THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO USE TAGS. YOU CAN DO LOTS OF THINGS WITH TAGS. NONE OF THEM HAPPEN FAST.
THESE TAGS ARE A VERY LONG GAME. SO SO THAT'S WHY TAGS ARE BEST PAIRED WITH A MASTER PLAN. AND WHEN THE MASTER PLAN SAYS, HERE'S WHAT WE PLAN TO DO, THE TAG IS AN IMPLEMENTATION TOOL THAT MIGHT BE THAT MIGHT HELP IMPLEMENT THE MASTER PLAN. THE IN ANY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S IN A TAD DOESN'T GET ANYTHING EXCEPT THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT. AND THEN ONCE THE TAD IS IN PLACE, YOU ALL MAKE DECISIONS ON HOW TO USE THE TAD WITH PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH YOU TO USE THE TAD SO THE TAD IS IN PLACE, YOU MAY NEVER USE IT. NO PROPERTY OWNER MAY EVER WANT TO USE IT. IT MAY JUST SIT THERE AND THEN YOU SAY, WELL, WHY DO WE HAVE A TAD AND LET'S GET RID OF IT. THAT COULD HAPPEN TOO. BUT, BUT, BUT IF THE IDEA IS, IS THAT IT IS A TOOL TO HELP BRING ALONG PRIVATE SECTOR REDEVELOPMENT BY USING THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAXES TO HELP THEM POUR THAT MONEY BACK INTO THEIR PROPERTY. OKAY, SO LET ME JUST ADD TO THE ANSWER TO THIS. THE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA WHERE THE MOVIE THEATER IS AND THE HOTELS ADJACENT TO THE MOVIE THEATER, THOSE ARE IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA. I KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN THE PRINCETON LAKES, TED, YOU KNOW, AND AND I THINK THEY CAME ALONG AFTER THE PRINCETON LAKES. TED WAS CREATED BY THE CITY OF ATLANTA. YES. SO, SO AND LIKELY. AND I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS THERE, BUT IT'S LIKELY THAT IF ANY TED FUNDS WENT INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT, IT WENT FOR IT WENT INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORTING THAT DEVELOPMENT AND NOT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. SO IT'S A. THE HOTELS ALONG THE ALONG VIRGINIA AVENUE, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY THERE. YOU MIGHT IT MIGHT BE SOME ABILITY TO ENHANCE INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT SITE PREPARATION OR, OR LAYING DOWN UTILITIES THAT'S ALREADY, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO AND THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER THING ABOUT ABOUT A HOTEL IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ALREADY BUILT, IF YOU HAVE A HOTEL THAT'S ALREADY BUILT, YOU'RE GOBBLING UP A WHOLE LOT OF YOUR DIGEST IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A,
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IN, IN A SMALLER AGGREGATION OF REAL ESTATE, A LOT OF THE DIGEST IS TAKEN UP WITH THAT PROPERTY, WHICH SEEMS TO ME. IT'S TAKEN UP BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY HAS A HIGHER VALUE, WHICH IS THE VALUE THAT USUALLY IS TRIED. YOU TRY TO CREATE WITH THE TAG SO THAT YOU CAN USE THE INCREMENT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS YOU MENTIONED. IMPLEMENT THE MASTER PLAN. THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY HAS THE HOTEL DISTRICT AS A HOTEL DISTRICT RIGHT. DOES IT INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL DENSITY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF A HOTEL WANTED TO INCLUDE CONDOS OR SOME MORE DENSITY ON THAT SITE, DOES THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR ANTICIPATE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO OR CHANGES TO THE EXISTING HOTEL DISTRICT? I MEAN, I COULDN'T I COULDN'T QUOTE A PARTICULAR PAGE OR A LINE FROM THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, REAL ESTATE ECONOMICS WOULD TELL YOU THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO REDEVELOP ANY OF THOSE PARCELS, PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT ARE SET BACK FROM THE, FROM THE FROM THE PROPERTY, FROM THE STREET, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME INCREASED DENSITY. LIKE EITHER YOU'RE EITHER YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF INCREASED DENSITY AND SOME AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY. YOU KNOW, MAYBE FROM THIS TAD OR A LOT OF SUBSIDY FROM THIS TAD AND MAYBE NOT AS MUCH DENSITY.I MEAN, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ECONOMICS THAT YOU CAN PLAY AROUND WITH ONCE YOU HAVE THIS TYPE OF TOOL ON THE TABLE, BUT IT IS JUST A TOOL, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, TO DO CERTAIN THINGS AND, AND OF A CERTAIN SIZE, THEY CAN THEY CAN UNLOCK IT CAN UNLOCK THINGS THAT THE MARKET CAN'T DO BY ITSELF IS REALLY THE IDEA IN THAT THE MARKET GENERALLY ISN'T ATTRACTED TO AND BLIGHTED AREAS OR AREAS THAT ARE UNDERDEVELOPED. THAT'S THE IDEA OF A TAD. SO DURING THE DISCUSSION, THERE'S COME UP ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. I'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE ARE AMENABLE, AMENABLE TO TRYING TO SEE IF THIS COULD WORK BY THEN. I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE DECISION POINTS WE ARE DISCUSSING TAD THREE, BUT THERE'S ALSO TAD FOUR. THAT'S THE SYLVAN OAKLEY AREA, AND THAT AREA WAS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN. ALSO, IMPACT EVENT CENTER. IMPACT CHURCH HAS OTHER VACANT AREAS ON THE LAND THAT THEY OWN THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON WITH SOME SENIOR HOUSING OR SOME RETAIL, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL CONFERENCE SPACE.
RIGHT NOW, THE IMPACT EVENT CENTER IS BEING USED TO TRY TO HELP GET MORE HEADS IN BEDS AND WORKING WITH OUR EASTPOINT CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU TO FILL THAT VOID THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THERE IS TALK OF AND PLANS. THERE'S PRESENTATIONS THAT THE CHURCHES HAD ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL SITE THAT THEY ARE PLANNING. SO THAT'S IN THE SYLVAN OAKLEY AREA. AND THEN THAT'S FOR I KNOW WE'RE NOT ON IT, BUT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THERE'S DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE. SO THE QUESTION IS, ONE, DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO HAVE DISCUSSION TO SEE IF THIS CAN BE DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR? IF SO, THE MEETING WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO BE ON THE 30TH OR THE 31ST SINCE THE WHEN THE LAW WAS CREATED, THERE WAS AN ONLINE NEWSPAPER, WHICH MEANS THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THE FIVE DAYS BEING THAT UNLESS THE LAWYERS LOOK AT THIS BETWEEN TONIGHT AND TOMORROW AND TELL US SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IT WOULD NEED TO GO. WE WOULD NEED TO BE ADVERTISING, PUTTING IN THE INFORMATION TO ADVERTISE THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW SO THAT IT CAN EITHER BE ONLINE ON WEDNESDAY, OR IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE BOTH, I DON'T KNOW. BUT BEING IF IT GETS THERE, IT'LL BE IN THE PAPER BY THE 24TH. SO THAT'S ONE DECISION. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO TRY TO DO BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, THE OTHER DECISION IS, IF SO, ARE WE LOOKING AT TO ADD THREE OR TAD FOUR OR TAD THREE AND FOUR SO THAT WHEN THE DISCUSSIONS ARE HAD BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TOWARDS. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING ALREADY DEVELOPED HOTELS THAT HAVE HIGHER TAX DIGEST, THAT'S LIKELY GOING TO IMPACT, OF
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COURSE, THE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT CAN BE IN ALL OF IT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE NUMBERS UP. SO THEN IT MIGHT IT'LL POSSIBLY IMPACT THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH AS TO WHICH PROPERTIES WILL BE INCLUDED. AND SO. THOSE ARE THE I GUESS STILL OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSSIONS TO DECIDE TONIGHT. AND I'M NOT SURE SURE WHICH ONE YOU ALL WANT TO TACKLE FIRST WHETHER OR NOT I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A DESIRE TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE BY THE 31ST IS THE FIRST QUESTION. AND SO I'M LOOKING AT COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. SHE'S NOT IN AFFIRMATIVE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. YEAH, I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT THE FIRST IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A DESIRE TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE ON OR BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST. I KNOW I'M POLLING RIGHT NOW ON THIS SIDE. IS THERE A DESIRE TO TRY TO HAVE THIS DONE ON OR BEFORE DECEMBER THE 31ST? OKAY, SO SINCE THAT IS THE DESIRE, THEN THAT MEANS WE NEED TO CALCULATE THE TIME SO THAT THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE NOTICE FOR THE DEFERRAL. WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT. WE'RE DEFERRING THE DECISION TO A FUTURE DATE. CITY ATTORNEY SAYS WE COULD DO THAT WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO THAT'S DECISION NUMBER ONE. AND THEN TWO WOULD BE. AND MAYBE JUST IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, STILL ADVERTISE FOR THREE AND FOUR SO THAT WHEN WE DON'T MAKE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT READY TO MAKE THAT DECISION. RIGHT. SO NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT THAT. FOR IMPACT. YEAH. NO, NO. BECAUSE DECISIONS MADE IN THREE COULD IMPACT FOUR OR VICE VERSA. SO THE CONSENSUS IS OR I GUESS DO WE TAKE DO WE TAKE AN ACTION MOTION TO DEFER TO A FUTURE DATE. AND THEN THAT WAY THAT WOULD ALREADY CALL THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER COMING TO YOU AT THE ATTORNEY WIGGINS ANSWERS THAT. SO I AM ACTUALLY HESITANT TO HAVE YOU TAKE ANY ACTION. SO IT'S NOT DEEMED A REJECTION WHICH WOULD TRIGGER A NEW PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. SO SO WE JUST NEED TO RESET THE THE HEARING ON THE DECISION, RESET THE MEETING FOR THE DECISION.LET ME JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. I'M RESEARCHING SOMETHING. I'LL COME BACK TO YOU OKAY. MARTIN ROGERS, DID YOU STILL HAVE SOMETHING? NO. BUTLER. MADAM MAYOR, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE A QUORUM FOR A MEETING ON THE 30TH OF THE 31ST. PEOPLE MAY HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO MAKE THEIR TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS. OKAY, LET'S GO WITH THAT. WHO'S OUT OF TOWN? BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE TO TO TELL US RIGHT NOW. WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING IF WE DIDN'T HAVE QUORUM. SO WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT. IF SIX OF THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT CAN BE HERE IN THE FUTURE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE QUORUM. SO WHO'S NOT AVAILABLE IF THE MEETING IS ON THE 30TH OR THE 31ST? SO WE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. WE STILL HAVE SIX. IF WE DO THAT, EVERYONE IS UP. COUNCILMAN BUTLER. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMAN BUTLER. ATTORNEY WIGGINS, DID YOU FIND WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR? I HAVEN'T.
YEAH I, I. YOU'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE COVERAGE AND ATTORNEY JOHNSON WILL BE HERE. OH. WILL YOU BE HERE? MR. KOSKY IS LOOKING. BUT MR. ATTORNEY JOHNSON COULD YOU DO IT WITHOUT MR. KOSKY? I CAN MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE. I CAN TALK ABOUT THE LAW, YOU KNOW, AND. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THERE'LL BE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH MR. KOSKY AND THE TEAM BETWEEN NOW. I THINK, I THINK THAT MR. COSTA WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR CONSULTATION IN, IN IN THE INTERIM, I WILL I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE VERY BUSY THIS WEEK. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME FOR CONSULTATION. AND OUR OFFICE IS CLOSED BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR EVERY YEAR. NONE OF, NO, NONE OF OUR MEMBERS WORK, SO WE WE WON'T BE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR. OH, SO YOU'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR US TO HAVE FURTHER DECISION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN? I'M AVAILABLE BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 24TH. OH, THAT'S A WEEK. OKAY. BUT WE'RE BUSY, SO WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FIND SOME TIME. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO I MEAN, I THINK THE WORD BE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL PROBABLY
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BE REACHING OUT TO YOU IF SOMEONE IF OTHERS. BUT I WON'T TAKE UP THAT TIME AS I HAVEN'T AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS. SO I FOUND A CODE SECTION. IT'S TITLED 36, SECTION 80 DASH 29.IT TALKS ABOUT ELECTRONIC POSTINGS OF LEGAL NOTICES. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M READING. SO I THINK I'M CLOSE TO SOME GUIDANCE ON. WHAT'S ALLOWED. WHEN YOU WANT TO POST ONLINE INITIAL READING THROUGH IT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT AN ELECTRONIC POSTING COULD SUPPLEMENT A POSTING IN THE PAPER. IT CANNOT EXACTLY NEEDS TO RUN IN THE PAPER. I THINK IN THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, YES, WE SHOULD RUN IT. WE RAN THE FIRST ONE THAT WAY. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DEVIATE FROM THAT. AND THIS CODE SECTION TALKS ABOUT USING ELECTRONIC POSTINGS TO CORRECT ERRORS. IT TALKS ABOUT. IN ANY CASE, WHEN A COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY IS REQUIRED TO PUBLISH A LEGAL NOTICE IN THE LEGAL ORGAN OR OTHER NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION, SUCH NOTICE MAY ADDITIONALLY BE PUBLISHED BY POSTING ON A WEBSITE OR ON A COMMON STATEWIDE WEBSITE. IT DOES, IT SAYS ADDITIONALLY, AND IT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION THE ELECTRONIC WEBSITE OF THE PAPER. SO I WOULD READ THAT TO SAY YOU'VE GOTTA DO IT IN THE HEART CIRCULATION, MADAM. BUT I WOULD SAY THIS, THAT, THAT, THAT RATHER THAN TWO EVENTS OR TWO DIFFERENT DATES BEING ADVERTISED. NO, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE ON ONE. IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE VOTE OF THE SAME AT THE SAME TIME. CORRECT.
SAME. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST SHE JUST SAID WE JUST HAVE TO DO THE MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. IF IT WERE REJECTED, YOU WOULD NEED TO START BACK FROM PUBLIC HEARING. BUT THERE IS NOT A REJECTION OF IT TONIGHT. I DON'T HEAR NO, I HEAR IT'S A DEFERRAL OF THE VOTE, WHICH WILL LEADS ME TO WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE. AGAIN, OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION TO RE-ADVERTISE THE HEARING AND THE MEETING AND TO HAVE IT ON THE SAME NIGHT. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S OKAY. MR. JOHNSON WAS TRYING TO SAY. MADAM CITY CLERK, IS THERE A WAY TO EXPEDITE PUBLISHING IN THE PAPER THE HARD COPY? I KNOW THAT THE SOUTH FULTON NEIGHBOR COMES OUT ON WEDNESDAYS. SO CAN I SAY SOMETHING? IF I WERE TO PUBLISH IT TOMORROW. TOMORROW TO THEM TOMORROW, IT IT WON'T BE IN THERE. NOT NOT THE IN THE PHYSICAL PAPER. IT WON'T BE IN THE PHYSICAL PAPER ON THE 17TH.
NO, IT'LL BE THERE ON THE 24TH. ON THE 24TH. CORRECT. YES. IN THE SOUTH FULTON NEIGHBORS, OUR LEGAL ORGAN AND AJC IS BACK UP. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SHROPSHIRE. THANK YOU.
WHEN WE WHEN WE VOTE ON THAT, IS IT SPECIFICALLY DOES IT SPECIFICALLY SAY THE SOUTH FULTON NEIGHBORS? SO WHAT IT SAYS IS THE THE THE SO THE PUBLICATION OF GENERAL CIRCULATION WITHIN THE CITY. SO COULD IT BE PUBLISHED IN THE AJC. THAT'S THE BACKUP. I DON'T KNOW THEIR PUBLICATION TIMELINES, LIKE IF IT'S BETTER OR WORSE THAN OUR SOUTH FULTON NEIGHBOR. BUT AGAIN, I CAUTION YOU TO DEVIATE FROM HOW WE PUBLISHED IT THE FIRST TIME, SO IT'S NOT TO APPEAR AS IF WE'RE TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT. ANY RULES. AND I DO BELIEVE THE SOUTH FULTON NEIGHBOR IS OUR LEGAL ORGAN, WHICH IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE PAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION. I WOULD I WOULD OPINE. THE OTHER THING IS THAT I JUST WANT TO BE VERY SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR THAT THE ACTION OR THE REASON FOR THE DELAY IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO INCLUDE WE WANT TO CHANGE OUT THE PARCELS, IS THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER CHANGING OUT PARCELS, PARCELS. AND SO WE ARE MAKING THAT DECISION BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE CONSULTANT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. HE SAID HE'S BUSY, HE MAY CAN MAKE TIME, BUT WE MAY COME BACK AND NOT HAVE SOMETHING NEW TO CONSIDER. WELL, WE WILL HAVE TRIED. AND THE CONSULTANT SAYS HE'S AVAILABLE UNTIL THE 24TH AND HE DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TIME, SO WE CAN PRIORITIZE THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE HOTELS, BECAUSE THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING TO DECIDE WHETHER
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ANYTHING ELSE NEEDS TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, IF THE VALUE OF 1 OR 2 OF THOSE PROPERTIES PUSHES THIS OVER 10% WITH OR WITHOUT OTHER PARCELS, RIGHT? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUE OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE, BUT THOSE SEEM TO BE. AND MR. KOSKY SAID TONIGHT AND HEARING FROM COUNCILMEMBER. ATKINS, I WAS ABOUT TO CALL YOU EVERY LAST NAME BUT ATKINS, COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS, THEY'RE CLEAR. THE VIRGINIA AVENUE HOTELS DOWN, BOBBY BROWN AND VIRGINIA AVENUE HOTELS. SO THAT'S HILTON HYATT. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 6 OR 7 OF THEM. SONESTA I WOULD I WOULD THINK. UNLESS YOU TOOK SOME OUT, THERE'S NO WAY ALL 6 OR 7 ARE GOING TO GET IN THERE. SO THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT SIX SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT WORTH PUTTING IN THE TAB. IT'D BE A MISTAKE FROM A TAD PERSPECTIVE. SO YOU ALL CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND I THINK IT'S STARTING WITH WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE ONES THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE IN LIKE HOW THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE, IT'D BE GREAT TO PRIORITIZE WHICH ONES AND WHY THEY WANT TO BE IN THERE. DO WE HAVE ANY GUIDANCE ON THAT TONIGHT? OH, I SEE ZIEGLER. YES.THANK YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE'RE A LITTLE TIGHT ON THE TAX DIGEST, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BOUNDARIES SHOULD BE AND WHERE SHOULD WE TAKE PROPERTIES FROM.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH TAD ON SYLVAN, MY PRIORITY WOULD BE ACTUAL SYLVAN ROAD WITH IMPACT CHURCH BECAUSE IT'S A VERY MAIN THOROUGHFARE. IT IS THE ENTRANCE OF OUR CITY AND THE MAJORITY OF IT IS VACANT. I JUST DROVE PAST THE VERY FIRST PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT INTO EASTPOINT ON SYLVAN ROAD, AND IT'S IT'S A HUGE MESS. BUT SYLVAN AND LAKEWOOD AVENUE, RIGHT BY THE THE BP, IT WAS A TOW TRUCK PLACE AND THEY'VE CLEARED OUT THE CARS, BUT ALL THE CAR PARTS ARE IN THE LOT. BUT WE COULD TAKE THINGS FROM THE BACK END OF OAKLEY TO THEN ADD THAT INTO THE TAD SOUTH. YEAH. SO LIKE I THINK THAT THERE'S BP. PPG IS NOT IN THE TAD. I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE AS STRATEGIC ABOUT THIS AS POSSIBLE AND NOT TURN IT INTO HORSE TRADING. BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN BUT YOU KNOW WHY? WHY IS SOMETHING IN WHY IS SOMETHING OUT? WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT? WHAT IS YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY NOT JUST IT'S WHAT IS IT WORTH? I WOULD SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES AN IMPACT FOR YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, IS IT WORTH HAVING THIS PARCEL IN VERSUS THAT PARCEL IN BECAUSE WE WANT TO WHAT ARE OUR WHAT ARE OUR GOALS? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH A PARTICULAR PARCEL IN OR OUT? THAT'S HOW I WOULD APPROACH IT. RIGHT? ZIEGLER. YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND BP, DOWN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, OVER TO RIGHT ON OAKLEY FROM SYLVAN. SO ON OAKLEY, THERE'S A GIANT WAREHOUSE AND IT'S BP. I THINK IT'S BP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OPPOSITE SIDE OF IMPACT. YES, BUT IT'S LIKE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE PARCEL. IT IS. I WOULD IMAGINE IT HAS SOME VALUE TO IT. BUT YOU KNOW, I IT'S NOT THAT VISIBLE TO PUBLIC. I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO USE OAKLEY TO GET DOWN TO THEIR HOMES WOULD SEE IT. BUT AS FAR AS STRATEGY WISE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE EMPHASIS ON THE NORTHERN TAD SHOULD BE SYLVAN ROAD WITH IMPACT CHURCH, BECAUSE IMPACT IS REALLY ON OAKLEY. BUT I MEAN, IF WE CAN TAKE ANY OF THE PARCELS OUT OF THE OAKLEY PORTION OTHER THAN I MEAN, WE NEED TO KEEP IMPACT CHURCH, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE SOUTHERN TAD. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND STRATEGIC BECAUSE WE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT TWO, TWO PARTICULAR HOTELS ON VIRGINIA AVENUE. AND TO COUNCILMAN ATKINS POINT, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS LIKE THAT A LOT OF THE OTHER HOTELS WERE HAVE A A BIGGER SETBACK FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING RESTAURANTS PLACED IN FRONT OF THEM. AND SO IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP THAT DEVELOP, I MEAN, I KNOW I WOULD ENJOY THAT AND IT WOULD HELP.
IT WOULD HELP THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR BUSINESSES AS WELL. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THOUGH, THE TAD, THE TAD ITSELF DOESN'T SOLVE ANYBODY'S PARTICULAR PROBLEMS. THE TAD IS A TOOL
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THAT YOU ALL CAN CHOOSE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH. IT'S IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING OVERNIGHT. IF IT'S IN OR OUT. THE WHAT WILL CHANGE IS IF YOU ALL, AS A BODY DETERMINE THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY IS THERE, AND YOU USE THE TAD. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT IT OUGHT TO BE A PRIORITY OF OF THIS BODY TO USE THE TAD IN THE PLACES THAT ARE IN THE PLAN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ISN'T A CONSENSUS AMONG THIS BODY THAT THIS IS A PLACE WE WANT TO USE THE TAD, IF IT'S JUST ONE PERSON'S OPINION OR TWO PIECES, YOU KNOW, THERE OUGHT TO BE A CONSENSUS. HOW DO WE WANT TO USE THIS TAD? SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO DO, IS NOT JUST HAVE INDIVIDUAL WISHES, BUT TO COME TO CONSENSUS ABOUT THIS TAD AND ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS TAD, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST PERSONAL PARCELS HERE AND THERE THAT SOMEBODY WANTS IN OR OUT, I WOULD SAY, WHAT IS THE STRATEGY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WHEN YOU'RE ARGUING FOR TO PUT SOMETHING IN OR OUT? CONSENSUS STRATEGY THAT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED HAS GOTTEN US THIS FAR. IS ADAPTIVE REUSE AND REDEVELOPMENT OF INDUSTRIAL SITES AND VACANT PROPERTIES.THAT'S WHAT I HEARD, TOO, WHICH IS WHY THE HOTEL DISTRICT WAS SO THEN, AS IN THIS DISCUSSION.
IN THIS DISCUSSION, IT'S COME UP A DESIRE ABOUT HOTELS, I THINK, WHEN AS THAT IS EXPLORED, THE VALUE OF THE IMPROVED LAND FOR A LOT OF THOSE HOTELS MAY MAKE MAKE IT A CHALLENGE FOR HAVING ANYTHING IN IT. I DON'T KNOW THE VALUE OF THEM, BUT THOSE NUMBERS AND THE EXPLORATION OF THAT CAN BE. I THINK THIS IS A I DON'T THINK THIS IS A LONG, EXTENDED, PROTRACTED. ANALYSIS LIKE IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT I ALSO THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SETBACKS AND THE DESIRE FOR RETAIL, DOES THAT RETAIL, WILL THAT RETAIL NEED ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
BECAUSE THE TAD WE DON'T WE DON'T GIVE MONEY TO DEVELOPERS TO LIKE BUILD A RESTAURANT OR TO BUILD DENSITY UNITS. WE SAY, OKAY, WE WILL USE THIS INCREMENT IN TAX. IT GOES FROM 1000 TO 1500. WE WILL USE THIS 500 TO COVER THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO BE NEEDED ON THIS SITE BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY, BECAUSE WE PROVIDE WATER, WE PROVIDE LIKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. AND SO THE MONEY IS GOING TO THAT. SO EVEN IF THE HOTEL DISTRICTS WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL RETAIL SPACE OR WHATEVER WITHIN THEIR SETBACKS, IF THAT'S NOT GOING TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN THE INCREMENT WOULD NOT BE USED OR WOULD NOT EVEN BE NEEDED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE USE THE INCREMENT FOR. AND SO I THINK HAVING I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO GET THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE. AND THEN I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE SILVER AND OAKLEY SITES, I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IMPACTS THREE AND FOUR. SO WE FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND I MEAN, I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S CONSENSUS AROUND NOBODY'S SAYING NO TO TO THE HOTEL DISTRICT. IT IS WHAT IS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND WHERE IS ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED SUCH THAT TAX INCREMENT COULD BE USED. RIGHT. AND SO THE DECISIONS THAT WE MADE THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN THE PLAN TODAY. CORRECT. AND SO BUT I THINK WHAT WE DON'T HAVE HERE TONIGHT IS WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THOSE HOTEL PROPERTIES SUCH THAT WE CAN MAKE THE ANALYSIS OF WHY THEY ARE ARE NOT INCLUDED AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED INFRASTRUCTURE. AND IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT, I MEAN, SHARING THAT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS WOULD BE HELPFUL AROUND THAT. I THINK WE ARE CLOSER THAN WE THINK. IT'S JUST BEING ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS. AND THEN ONCE WE DO IT TO THE POINT OF OAKLEY, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME INDUSTRIAL PARTS PARCELS ON OAKLEY THAT JUST PROBABLY WILL NOT BE REDEVELOPED OR HAVE ADAPTIVE REUSE IN OUR LIFETIME BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL ACTIVE. THEY'RE STILL ACTIVE USES. THE ONE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS REALLY LARGE. SO JUST FINE TUNING THE PARCELS THAT I DON'T THINK WOULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, IF THAT GOES IN THE PAPER ON THE 24TH. WE AND WE'RE NOT LIMITED LIKE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING AT 6:00 ON THE 31ST. WE CAN HAVE A MEETING WHENEVER WE WANT, RIGHT. SO WE CAN HAVE A
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10 A.M. MEETING. WE CAN HAVE A ZOOM MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE IN THE EVENING ON THE 31ST, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE DATE THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT THE THE FIVE DAYS OR WHATEVER. THE 30TH. I MEAN, SO YOU GOT THE IT GOES IN THE PAPER ON THE 24TH, 25TH, 2627 O 28TH. SO WE COULD DO THE 29TH OR THE 30TH. I SAW THAT PAIN GOING ON. SO ATTORNEY JOHNSON, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? THE 30TH THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, ONCE ONCE YOU TAKE YOUR VOTE AND WE NEED TO NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND ALL THAT, AND WHICH IS USUALLY DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AS WELL. SO PLEASE DON'T DO IT ON THE 31ST. OH THAT'S RIGHT.SO WE GOTTA DO IT ON 29TH OUT OF 30TH. CAN WE DO IT ON THE 29TH? IF IT RUNS ON THE 24TH, 25TH, 26TH, 27TH, 28TH? IS IT FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OR JUST FIVE CALENDAR DAYS? FIVE DAYS? FIVE DAYS. SO THAT MEANS WE COULD DO THE 29TH OR THE 30TH. YEAH. PREFERENCE ON DAY. THE 29TH IS THE FIFTH. MONDAY. 30TH IS THAT TUESDAY? THE 29TH WOULD BE NICE. THE 29TH WOULD BE 29TH. I MEAN, IF LEGALLY THAT'S ENOUGH TIME, I'M OKAY WITH IT. IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS, THAT'S THE FIFTH MONDAY. IF WE DO IT ON THE 29TH, DO WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE EVENING OR DURING THE DAY? DAY? DURING THE DAY. YOU KNOW. YEAH, WE NEED SIX. OKAY. CITY ATTORNEY'S CHECKING SOMETHING.
I MEAN THIS IS GOING TO THIS DISCUSSION IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF NUMBER FOUR AS WELL.
WHATEVER WE DECIDE ON THREE, I MEAN, 28 AND 29, WHATEVER WE DECIDE ON 28 WILL IMPACT 29. DO WE NEED TO TABLE ATTORNEY WIGGINS AND COME BACK? YES. JUST A FEW MINUTES, PLEASE. OH WELL, YOU DON'T WANT US TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. I WANT TO SAY NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. NO, I'M SAYING YOU DON'T WANT US TO TAKE ANY ACTION. SO IF I TABLE, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED TAKING ACTION? WELL, TABLING IS OFF THE TABLE TONIGHT. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO TABLE ITEMS NUMBER 28 AND 29. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 30. THIS IS FROM EAST
[XIV.30. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Vendor, Terex, from Cooperative Agreement Sourcewell Contract # 110421-TER, for Four (4) Terex Bucket Trucks and Two Terex Digger Derricks Model Years 2026 – a Five (5) Year Lease to Purchase, NOT TO EXCEED: $481,597.40 Per Year, FUNDING SOURCE: CIP Vehicles]
POINT POWER. FOR BUCKET TRUCKS. I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA. DID WE NOT SAY CONSENT? DO YOU REMEMBER WHY I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME TONIGHT? I FEEL LIKE I MENTIONED BUCKET TRUCKS AND WE SAID CONSENT. DO YOU REMEMBER IF WE SAID CONSENT, MR. DIAL? YES, BUT THIS IS A THIS IS A DIFFERENT ONE. OH, YOU GOT NEW BUCKET TRUCKS. OKAY. MOTION OPEN FLOOR FOR. DO I ALREADY DO THAT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN, MR. JONES, I SEE MR. DIAL. YES. DIRECTOR DOW, PLEASE WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. YES. SO THIS ITEM, THE ITEM THAT YOU PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA IS, WAS FOR THE SMALLER BUCKET TRUCKS THAT GOES ON THE SMALLER STREETS. THIS IS FOR OUR BIG BUCKET TRUCKS. THEY CONSTANTLY IN AND OUT OF THE MECHANIC SHOP. THE LIFE CYCLE ON THOSE HAS JUST ABOUT PASSED. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME NEW ONES IN TO HELP WITH EFFICIENCY AND LEAD TIMES. THE LEAD TIMES ON THESE ARE SEVEN MONTHS TO A YEAR. SO JUST TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE. OKAY.COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER. I'M SORRY. THIS WAS MY LIGHT WAS ON FROM THE TAD DISCUSSION. OH, OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ROGERS? YES, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION? THE QUESTION. ATKINS. YES. MR. DOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I SEE HERE THAT THIS
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IS A LEASE TO PURCHASE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE LEASE TO PURCHASE WOULD BE THE 481, 597 NOT TO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT. SO CORRECT EVERY YEAR. SO IT WOULD BE THE COST THAT WOULD BE THE COST PER YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS. SO THIS IS 41 597 TIMES FIVE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SIX TIMES SIX FOR FOR BUCKET TRUCKS AND TWO OF THE TRUCKS TO DIG FOR A TOTAL OF SIX TRUCKS. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THAT TOTAL OVER SIX YEARS IS THEN WHAT I THINK IT'S LIKE TWO POINT SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW THAT MATH OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S IN THE. OKAY. SO THESE ARE ABOUT $500,000 EACH. YES. BECAUSE IT'S SIX TRUCKS, SIX YEARS AT 489. I DON'T THINK IT'S $500,000 EACH. THE. YES. RIGHT. FOR SIX YEARS. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THERE'S SIX TRUCKS AND SO IT SO THE SIX YEARS AND SIX TRUCKS. FIVE YEARS. IT'S FIVE YEARS, SIX TRUCKS, FIVE YEARS. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I WAS ASKING HOW MANY TRUCKS. 5.5 MILLION. AND THEN WE WOULD OWN THEM. THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. SO THAT IS. ABOUT 416,000 $417,000 EACH FOR THOSE. I SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION. YEAH, IT'S FIVE YEARS AND SIX TRUCKS. SO EACH TRUCK IS ABOUT THE COST OF A YEAR. OKAY. YES. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED KNOW IS WHAT WE WERE PAYING PER TRUCK. SAY THAT I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WERE PAYING PER TRUCK. GOTCHA. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THE LIFESPAN IS ABOUT HOW LONG. THE LIFESPAN IS ABOUT 10 TO 12 YEARS. 10 TO 12 YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU. PAYING ABOUT $401,331 AT THIS NUMBER. IT'S NOT QUITE BECAUSE THE THE TWO DIGGER DERRICKS, THE TRUCKS, THEY'RE MORE THAN THE REGULAR BUCKET TRUCKS. BUT AVERAGE. IF WE DIVIDE IT ALL UP EQUALLY.YES. YEAH. ABOUT 400,000. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, HER LIGHT'S ON FROM EARLIER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE NEXT TWO ARE FROM. THE NEXT THREE ARE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. BUT SHE STEPPED OUT. SO I'M GOING TO GO
[XIV.31. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the Miller Zell Easement for 6100 Fulton Industrial Blvd]
TO ITEM NUMBER. THAT ONE IS WITH MYSELF. THE THE EASEMENT. OH THAT'S TWO. YES. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO OPEN MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SO MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN, MR. DULL. SO THIS EASEMENT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S OUT BY FULTON INDUSTRIAL. BUT THIS PROPERTY OWNER, THEY GAVE US AN EASEMENT WAY BACK WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THAT LINE TO SWEETWATER CREEK. AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND. AND SO THEY'RE ASKING TO WORK WITHIN OUR EASEMENT. BUT SO IF THE PROPERTY BELONGS TO THE COMPANY, MILLER, ZELL, AND WE HAVE TWO POLES ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO THEY'RE ASKING JUST TO WORK WITHIN OUR EASEMENT, WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE OUR POLES. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. AND IT'S ALL OVER HEADLINES. WE HAVE NOTHING SUBMERGED. YES. HOLD ON A MINUTE. LET ME.[03:55:17]
SO I SEE A GRAPH ONLINE. SO WE'RE NOT TRANSFERRING OUR EASEMENT. THEY JUST WANT TO WORK WITHIN THE EASEMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO DO YOU NEED A RESOLUTION. YOU JUST NEED OUR APPROVAL. YES. THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID IT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON BY COUNCIL. BUT I'M SAYING VOTED ON. OR DO YOU NEED A RESOLUTION TO GO ALONG WITH IT OR JUST TO VOTE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT. ON THE AGENDA. SO CAN WE GET IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO? ADOPT APPROVAL, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WORK WITHIN OUR EASEMENT. AT 6100 FULTON INDUSTRIAL BY MILLER'S ALE. YES.IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES PLANNING AND ZONING LAWS. CITY ATTORNEY OR AARON RIGHT NOW CITY ATTORNEY HAS THE 33. LET'S GO TO. 34. AND. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. YES,
[XIV.34. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Mr. King Senior Citizen's Utility Bill Ordinance]
MADAM. MAYOR ORDINANCE WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. YOU NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. I APOLOGIZE, MADAM MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ITEM NUMBER 34. SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ORDINANCE WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS IT SAYS IS THAT ANY RESIDENT OVER THE AGE OF 75, THEIR POWER WILL NOT BE AUTOMATICALLY TURNED OFF WITHOUT SOMEONE GIVING THEM A CONTACT CALL. AND IF YOU HAVE PAID ON TIME FOR 60 MONTHS, THEN YOUR POWER WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY BE TURNED OFF. I'M NOT. I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO PULL IT UP SO I CAN READ IT.IT SAYS, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT, MADAM MAYOR, HOW WOULD YOU WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO DO? SO I SEE THE EMAIL CHAIN AND THE RESPONSE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. ACTUALLY INDICATES PRIVILEGE COMMUNICATION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT THEIR PHONES TO READ IT. I KNOW THAT I SHOULD TRY TO READ IT OUT LOUD, BUT IT DEALS WITH WHAT WAS DISCUSSED ON THE RECORD AT THE WORK SESSION ABOUT AGE DISCRIMINATION AND STRICT SCRUTINY. TEST DOES NOT.
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AND WHEN YOU DECEMBER THE 8TH, I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO READ IT. SHE HAS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE COMMUNICATION IN BOLD AND THERE'S BASICALLY NO CONCLUSION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. JUST. WHAT THE LAW IS AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING AND CAUTIONING OF THIS ACTION.IS ALSO NOT IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY ADOPTS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, ALSO IN THAT CHAIN THERE WERE. EXAMPLES AS TO WHY THIS WOULD NOT BE APPLIED TO WHAT SHE SAID.
BUT AND I DO HAVE THE ORDINANCE HERE. SO. I DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE. I DON'T SEE IT IN THAT EMAIL CHAIN. SEE IF IT'S ONLINE. IT'S NOT ONLINE EITHER.
MADAM CITY CLERK, DO YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE? I DON'T HAVE A THERE'S NOT AN ORDINANCE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA, AND I DON'T SEE ONE ON MY AT MY DESK, AT MY SEAT. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE IT IN THE ORDINANCE FORM. COULD YOU CHECK YOUR EMAIL FROM DECEMBER 8TH? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. IT'S JUST NOT IN THE FORM OF AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE. AND I SEE IT WHERE YOU SENT IT TO MYSELF, ATTORNEY WIGGINS AND DEPUTY CITY CLERK MALLET. BUT IT'S. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A DOCUMENT. IT'S JUST ALL THE WORDING IN AN EMAIL.
EXCUSE ME, MADAM MAYOR, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO LOOK FOR ATTORNEY WIGGINS? BUTLER? YOU WANT ME TO GO GET A LOOK FOR ATTORNEY WIGGINS? YES. I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO. I GUESS WHAT YOU SAY. YES, I'M FINE WITH THAT. OKAY.
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YES, MA'AM. I'M LOOKING FOR ITEM 34 ABOUT THE UTILITY BILL. MR. KING, SENIOR CITIZENS UTILITY BILL ORDINANCE. I MENTIONED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THERE WAS AN EMAIL EXCHANGE. YOU HAD ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE IN BOLD COMMUNICATION. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD READ INTO THE RECORD, BUT I ENCOURAGE THEM TO READ IT AND SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT YOU SHARED, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE TONIGHT. I SEE SOME LANGUAGE, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE FORM OF ORDINANCE TO BE APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL. AND SO THE CITY CLERK WAS JUST GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO GET YOU. THAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER. I DON'T I MEAN, NOBODY ELSE IS IN. SO IT'S COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER'S ITEM. NO ONE ELSE IS IN. WHAT I SHARED IS THAT THERE WAS AN EMAIL EXCHANGE. IT INDICATES PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION. THERE'S NOT AN ORDINANCE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO US TONIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION.THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE EMAIL, BUT IT IS NOT IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE. MADAM MAYOR, I, I WILL SAY THAT COUNCILMAN BUTLER DID DRAFT ORDINANCE AND SENT IT TO MYSELF AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON DECEMBER 8TH. I DID REVIEW THE ORDINANCE, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, IT DID NOT GET ADDED TO THE PACKET.
SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER. I'M I'M JUST ASKING.
I MEAN, MADAM CITY CLERK IS STILL IN HERE. WE DON'T HAVE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US. LIKE, I MEAN, I GOT TIME, BUT I DON'T SEE COUNCILWOMAN BUTLER. YES, MADAM. MAYOR, ORDINANCE WAS SUBMITTED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE, AND I'LL ENTER THAT INTO THE FILE NOW, ORDINANCE NUMBER TO BE DETERMINED. AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A HOLD ON COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER, BEFORE YOU START READING THE CITY CLERK, DO YOU HAVE IT? CAN YOU PRINT IT? DID YOU SEND THAT TO ME? COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER BECAUSE I DON'T, I I'LL SEND IT AGAIN FOR YOU. SO IT'LL BE AT THE TOP OF YOUR EMAIL THAT THAT'S THE EMAIL I'M LOOKING AT DECEMBER 8TH AT 11:22 P.M. THE ORDINANCE IS BEING APPLIED. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I JUST TOLD THEM EARLIER. WITH YOUR PERMISSION, MADAM MAYOR, I CAN JUST READ IT TO EVERYBODY IF THAT SPEEDS IT UP, THAT. NO, THAT'S NOT OKAY. WE NEED SOMETHING IN WRITING. WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE, SO WE NEED. SHE CAN GO PRINT IT.
Y'ALL NEED ME. GO AHEAD AND PRINT THIS OFF. THE COPIES OF THE EMAIL. SO YOU CAN DO THE EMAIL. I'M LOOKING FOR ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS AN ORDINANCE. I DON'T SEE AN ORDINANCE IN THIS EMAIL, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE EMAIL THAT HAD ORDINANCE IN IT. I DON'T SEE AN ORDINANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER I THINK THE THE A BIG PART OF YOUR
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EFFORT IN THIS IS TO ASSIST SENIORS. CORRECT. AND THERE'S THIS WHOLE 60 MONTH PROVISION, AND IT WOULD ONLY BENEFIT THEM IF THEIR BILLS HAVE BEEN PAID 60 MONTHS WITHOUT CUTOFF.CORRECT. WELL, THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO. SO IF YOU'RE NOT A SENIOR CITIZEN AND YOU HAVE A GOOD PAYMENT HISTORY OF 60 MONTHS, THEN YOU WOULDN'T GET AUTOMATICALLY TURNED OFF EITHER, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE TWO BENEFACTORS. SO IF I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT IF WE COULD DROP ALL REFERENCES TO AGE. SO THAT IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH PROTECTED CLASSES, WOULD THAT BE A BETTER APPROACH? MADAM ATTORNEY FOR US? SO THE EMAIL THAT THE MADAM MAYOR WAS REFERRING TO WAS JUST ABOUT NARROWLY TAILORING ANY ACTION OF THIS BODY. WHENEVER YOU'RE GOING TO USE PROTECTED CLASS AS A REASON TO INCLUDE OR EXCLUDE THAT YOUR REASONS. MUST NARROWLY TAILOR THE EXCLUSION OR THE INCLUSION TO FIT SOME GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST. RIGHT. AND SO COUNCILMAN BUTLER WILL HAVE TO ARTICULATE WHAT THAT.
WHAT THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT COMPELLING GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST IS. AND THE DECISION WOULD HAVE TO BE BY YOU GUYS THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS THE STRICTEST WAY THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. SO IF THE GOAL IS TO IF THE COMPELLING GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS ONE, BUT IF THE COMPELLING GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST IS TO MAKE SURE SENIORS HAVE UTILITIES, RIGHT, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE OF THAT? LIKE WHAT CAN WE DO AS, AS AS NOT A WIDE OPEN SOMETHING, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACHIEVE THAT GOAL? BECAUSE WE WOULD BE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ONE CLASS OF PEOPLE, RIGHT. THE AGE.
AND SO I SENT THAT TO YOU GUYS THE SAME NIGHT THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LAST MONDAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I THINK THAT EXPLAINS HOW YOU CAN GET THERE. BECAUSE ON ITS FACE IT RAISES THOSE ISSUES. BUT THEN AN ARTICULATION BY THE DRAFTER CAN HELP OVERCOME THE CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES WITH USING AGE. SO IN THIS WHAT I'M READING FROM COUNCILMAN BUTLER, IT ALSO SAYS, AND LONG TERM ON TIME CUSTOMERS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE OTHERS OUTSIDE OF THE AGE OF 65. SO WITH THAT LANGUAGE, THEN, DOES IT ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF AGE AS PROTECTED CLASS, BECAUSE IT'S ANYBODY WHO'S A LONG TERM ON TIME CUSTOMER. RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SAME CHALLENGE AS YOU DO WITH AGE, RIGHT? OKAY.
BECAUSE BEING A GOOD PAYING CITIZEN IS NOT A PROTECTED CLASS, RIGHT? SO DOES THAT REMEDY THE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE, THE ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP? NO, YOUR ISSUE IS NOT THE LONG TERM RIGHT. THE LONG TERM CUSTOMER WHO PAYS WELL, NO ISSUE. THERE'S NO ISSUE THERE. THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS BODY CAN ARTICULATE WHAT THE COMPELLING GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST IS TO ONLY INCLUDE SENIORS, AS THE FOLKS THAT CAN GET THE 30 DAY GRACE PERIOD. AND GET THE ONE PHONE CALL, THE COURTESY PHONE CALL, AS WRITTEN IN YOUR ORDINANCE. SO HERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I ARTICULATED. AND IF YOU MAKE IT EVERYBODY AND TAKE OUT THE SENIOR PART, THEN YOUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T NEED AN EXPLANATION. SO HERE, HERE'S SOME COMPELLING GOVERNMENT INTEREST THAT MAY MAKE THIS SATISFACTORY. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. RESIDENTS AGE 75 AND OLDER FACE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RISK OF HOSPITALIZATION OR DEATH WHEN UTILITY POWER IS DISCONNECTED, PARTICULARLY IN EXTREME HEAT OR COLD. COURTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY RECOGNIZED THAT PREVENTING SERIOUS HARM OR DEATH IS A COMPELLING GOVERNMENT INTEREST. NUMBER TWO PROTECTION OF VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. AGE BASED CLASSIFICATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR SENIORS, ARE NOT
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TREATED AS SUSPICIOUSLY AS CLASSIFICATIONS BASED ON RACE OR SEX. FEDERAL OR STATE PROGRAMS ROUTINELY PROVIDE SENIOR EXEMPTIONS SENIOR UTILITY RELIEF. SENIOR TARGETED WELFARE PROGRAMS. RECOGNIZING THAT OLDER CITIZENS REPRESENT A VULNERABLE POPULATION WITH UNIQUE HEALTH AND FINANCIAL CHALLENGES. ANOTHER COMPELLING GOVERNMENT INTEREST IS PREVENTING DISPLACEMENT AND MEDICAL EMERGENCIES. DISCONNECTION OF ELECTRIC SERVICES FOR ELDERLY RESIDENTS OFTEN TRIGGER EMERGENCY MEDICAL EVENTS. WELFARE CHECKS ARE COSTLY. PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSES. REDUCING THESE INCIDENTS SERVES BOTH AS PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY INTEREST, WHICH COURTS HAVE ALSO RECOGNIZED AS COMPELLING.I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE WHEREAS CLAUSES OF YOUR ORDINANCE INCLUDE THAT. SO WE CAN SAY WE'VE ARTICULATED WHAT THAT COMPELLING INTEREST IS, AND THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO ACHIEVE. TO ACHIEVE IT.
SO, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT IS THE PROPER PROCEDURE TO HAVE THIS INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND RATIFY THIS TODAY? IF THERE'S A VOTE OF COUNCIL, I WILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. SO ARE THERE FIVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT AND TABLE THIS ITEM SO THAT IT CAN BE APPROVED? THAT'S WHAT WE REQUIRE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER AND COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. YES. THANK YOU. SO I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER THAT WE NEED TO REWRITE OUR ORDINANCE FOR UTILITY SHUT OFF PAYMENTS. I KNOW THAT IT IS A CONSTANT COMPLAINT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE GETTING SHUT OFF WITHOUT NOTICE. THE ORDINANCE IS UNCLEAR ON HOW MANY DAYS AFTER A MISSED PAYMENT THAT THEY COULD BE SHUT OFF FOR. AND WHILE I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HELP SENIORS AND THINGS, I, I WOULD AGREE THAT THE HOLE THAT THE UTILITY SHUT OFF ORDINANCE IN GENERAL NEEDS A WHOLE REWRITE. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING EVERYBODY IN THAT CONVERSATION WOULD BE WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO OR SO WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, AND HOW WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A MORE HUMANE POLICY, NOT JUST FOR SENIORS, BUT BUT FOR EVERYBODY AND SENIORS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT. SO THAT I THINK THAT WE WE SHOULD TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH. BECAUSE THIS ISSUE DOES AFFECT EVERYBODY. AND THAT INCLUDES SENIORS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MITCHELL. YEAH, I YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING REAL QUICK. SORRY. YOU'RE THE LAST ONE. AND AND SO WHAT I'VE HEARD IS. THERE'S CONCERNS.
THERE SEEMS TO BE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM FIVE, BUT THE INCLUDING EVERYONE OR THE 60 MONTH PAYMENT HISTORY, I MEAN, NOT HAVING ONE LATE PAYMENT IN FIVE YEARS IS A LOT TO JUST GET A PHONE CALL. BUT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GET 30 DAY GRACE PERIOD. BUT YEAH, THAT'S THE SENIOR.
I'M NOT SURE ANY RESIDENT ON TIME PAYMENT. OH, THEY GET A 30 DAY GRACE PERIOD TOO. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE TWO THINGS. CONSENSUS THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING DONE AND THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT WE DO AS IT RELATES TO PEOPLE WHO PAY ON TIME AND BEING DISCONNECTED WITHOUT NOTICE. BUT THE AGE. LIMITATION OF RESTRICTION IS WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME PAUSE. ALSO, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES NOT HAVE THE WHEREAS CLAUSES REGARDING
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WHATEVER COMPELLING INTEREST THERE IS TO SOLELY LOOK AT PEOPLE BASED ON AGE AND NOT AS A WHOLE. SO WHAT I DON'T HEAR IS CONSENSUS AROUND FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WELL, READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AGE. BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A DESIRE TO LOOK AT JUST WHAT WE DO OVERALL AND HOW WE DISCONNECT RESIDENTS. AND MAYBE THE 60 MONTH PAYMENT HISTORY WITHOUT 60 MONTHS, WITHOUT A PRIOR MISSED PAYMENT FOR 30 DAY GRACE PERIOD. BUT I THINK. YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE GENERALLY PAY, I DON'T KNOW. AND MR. KING, I MEAN, MR. KING. MR. JONES, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. HAS THERE BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT INCLUSION OF A COURTESY CALL, ALBEIT IT COULD BE AN AUTOMATIC CALL LIKE YOU SET UP SOME WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? YOU SET UP A KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT WHEN YOU MAKE A PROGRAM, DO SOMETHING. YOU SET UP A ALGORITHM THAT AUTOMATICALLY CALLS PEOPLE TO REMIND THEM. I MEAN, IT COULD BE AN AUTO CALL. WELL, WE WE HADN'T EXPLORED THAT. IT'S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY. WE WOULD PROBABLY THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE IS PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING TO HAVE EMAIL UPDATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I NOT SURE IF BY HAVING AN ACCOUNT, A PHONE NUMBER COMES WITH IT OR NOT. IF IT DOESN'T, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME TYPE OF OUTREACH. BUT IT'S IT'S POSSIBLE. IT JUST MAY TAKE A LITTLE LEAD TIME TO GET THE PROGRAM SET UP. YEAH, I THINK EVERY ACCOUNT HAS A PHONE NUMBER AND THERE'S A SHUT OFF LIST. AND SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO PUT THE PHONE NUMBERS INTO THE SYSTEM THE DAY BEFORE, A TWO DAYS BEFORE, YOU'RE GOING TO SHUT IT OFF SUCH THAT A SYSTEM, THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM IT DOESN'T TAKE REQUIRE MAN HOURS, CALLS PEOPLE. AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T ANSWER, THEY'LL PROBABLY END UP WITH A VOICEMAIL RIGHT FROM THE AUTO CALL. AS A COURTESY REMINDER, MAYBE TWO DAYS BEFORE THREE DAYS, WHATEVER THAT IS. SO THAT IS JUST BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE. EVERYBODY'S GETTING REMINDERS BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD FROM SHIFTING THE SYSTEMS. I SAW ANOTHER EMAIL. SOMEBODY SAID THERE WAS EMAIL, SOCIAL MEDIA POST WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, WE WEREN'T BEHIND. WE HAD A ZERO BALANCE, BUT WE STILL GOT CUT OFF AND THEN WE HAD TO PAY RECONNECTION. SO THERE'S CHALLENGES THERE. IS THERE A WAY TO BUILD INTO THE SYSTEM AN AUTOMATIC AUTOMATED CALL 72 HOURS BEFORE SHUT OFF OR SOMETHING LIKE, YEAH, WHICH WOULDN'T REQUIRE MAN MAN LABOR. AND I KNOW WHEN WE ENCOUNTER COUNTER THOSE CHALLENGES BEFORE THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD THE CLOUD BASED SYSTEM. SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOME ABILITIES TO DO THAT A LITTLE EASIER THIS TIME AROUND. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT AND, AND HAVE A STRATEGY ON ANY TIMELINES OR ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS THAT WOULD TAKE TO GET THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. THANK YOU. SO THIS MIGHT BE FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, COULD WE AMEND THE CURRENT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WE HAVE OR ADD THIS BECAUSE DON'T I GUESS THE ONLY PART I REALLY AGREE WITH WOULD BE THE.FIVE YEAR. I GUESS IT'S NOT MISSING A PAYMENT. CONSECUTIVE PAYMENTS AND FIVE YEAR ORDINANCE. AND THEN WOULD IT BE JUST EASIER TO AMEND IT OR TO MAKE A WHOLE NEW ORDINANCE? AND WHEN YOU SAY OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S GOING TO BE IN CHAPTER TWO OF PART EIGHT OF OUR CODE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT, GIVE ME A SECOND SERVICE TERMINATION OR CUT OFF. THAT'S SECTION EIGHT DASH 2011. CURRENTLY, YOUR ORDINANCE PROVIDES EACH CUSTOMER MUST NOTIFY THE CITY. I DON'T NEED TO READ ALL OF THAT. SO YEAH, I SEE IT, I SEE IT, YOU SEE IT. SO THIS WOULD BE AMENDING THE CURRENT ORDINANCE BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE INCLUDING A NEW WAY OF HOW YOU CAN GET SHUT OFF OR A NEW WAY, HOW YOU DON'T GET SHUT OFF. SO
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THIS HAS TO GET CODIFIED INTO YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCES. WHAT'S THE SECTION AGAIN? EIGHT DASH 2011. IT TALKS ABOUT HARDSHIPS THAT YOU CAN PRESENT TO HALT THE DISCONNECTION OF UTILITIES.YOU CAN HAVE A MEDICAL HARDSHIP, A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. THERE'S NOTHING THAT TALKS ABOUT AGE OR AGE HARDSHIP. SO THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED WOULD. SO THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOMETHING.
IT SAYS CUSTOMER IN GOOD STANDING MAY REQUEST EITHER BY PAYMENT PLAN. SO IT'S THAT KIND OF I MEAN THEY THEY DEFINED WHAT GOOD STANDING IS. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT SIR I'M SORRY. SO IN SECTION TWO IN THE SAME WHICH ONE IS THIS I THINK IT'S F. SUBSECTION HARDSHIP. YES, SIR. SO IT SAYS A CUSTOMER IN GOOD STANDING. THEN THEY AND THEN THEY. I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THEY DEFINED WHAT GOOD STANDING MEANS. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. IT DEFINES IT IN THAT NEXT SENTENCE OKAY A PAYMENT PLAN OKAY. SO THEY DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR QUOTE UNQUOTE GOOD STANDING I GUESS GOOD STANDING IN THIS INSTANCE WOULD BE WAS IT FIVE YEARS OF CONSISTENT PAYMENTS. SO THAT SO NOW YOU'RE CREATING A NEW CATEGORY OF GOOD STANDING.
RIGHT. SO FOR THESE TWO TO MARRY YOU EITHER WILL HAVE TO STRIKE WHAT'S IN YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. RIGHT. OR COUNCILMAN BUTLER WILL HAVE TO BE OKAY WITH THE CURRENT DEFINITION OF GOOD STANDING. BECAUSE HIS DEFINITION OF GOOD STANDING IS IS HARDER TO MEET THAN WHAT WAS ALREADY AN ORDINANCE, ACTUALLY, HIS CURRENT DEFINITION OF GOOD STANDING IS FIVE FIVE. YES 60 MONTHS. THIS IS JUST 12 IN THE ORDINANCE NOW. SO CAN YOU HAVE BOTH? LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD MAKE A NEW ORDINANCE WOULD BE WEIRD. I THINK IT WOULD BE. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO IT HAS TO BE IT CREATES ALL THESE GRAY AREAS. I GUESS THAT'S MY POINT. SO IF. I DON'T. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M JUST READING THROUGH SOME STUFF. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS. YES.
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS, AND I'M GLAD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BUTLER HAS BROUGHT THIS UP TODAY, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY LIKE COUNCILMAN ZIEGLER, IF THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID, I CAN'T PROMISE YOU THAT. I HEARD EVERYTHING YOU SAID, BUT I THINK THAT MR. CITY MANAGER, MADAM ATTORNEY, OUR UTILITY ORDINANCE AND GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS, I THINK THAT THEY'RE ANTIQUATED AND THEY NEED A WHOLE REWRITE.
I THINK THAT IT IS DIFFICULT FOR FOR CITIZENS. I THINK WE ARE, BECAUSE WE ARE AN ELECTRIC CITY AND NOT REGULATED BY THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION. I THINK A LOT OF OUR PRACTICES ARE OUT OF STEP WITH MAINSTREAM. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE PROTECTIONS FOR CITIZENS ACROSS THE CITY. AND I THINK WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE, THE REGULATIONS AND THE ENTIRE CODE. I YOU MAY BE RIGHT. THE ONLY THING IS, IS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THEM. BUT WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT? RIGHT? LIKE, YOU GUYS HAVE TO TELL US YOU'RE THE POLICY MAKERS, RIGHT? WHAT MAKES SENSE TO GO TO WHAT? WHAT DO YOU WANT? CHANGE. RIGHT. AND SO THE REASON I SAID, MR. CITY MANAGER FIRST IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I THINK THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON UTILITIES, THESE ARE THE THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE RATEPAYERS AND THE END USERS. AND MANY OF THIS STUFF IS SO OUTDATED AND ANTIQUATED. THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS I GET, TEXT MESSAGES, I GET, EMAILS, I GET THEY JUST CUT MY STUFF OFF.
I'VE NEVER BEEN LATE OR THEY'VE MIXED THIS UP OR IT'S IT'S SO QUICK TO DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I THINK SOME OF OTHER UTILITIES, THERE'S SOME REGULATION AROUND HOW YOU MUST NOTIFY, HOW OFTEN YOU MUST NOTIFY WHEN THERE'S A NONPAYMENT. AND SO A PART OF THE QUESTION IN THE BUDGET HEARING I ASKED, THERE'S A LINE ITEM UNDER POWER THAT SAYS MISCELLANEOUS FEES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WAS REALLY ASKING THAT QUESTION, ARE THOSE THE
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FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED WHEN FOLKS ARE SHUT OFF? RIGHT. BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE PERSONS MAY BE INDIVIDUALS OR HOUSEHOLDS THAT FIND THEMSELVES ON THE LOWER END OF THE INCOME SPECTRUM. AND NOW WE'RE GETTING RICH OFF OF THOSE PEOPLE. WE'RE NOT HELPING THEM. WE'RE NOT HELPING THEM. SO I THINK THAT ALL OF THIS NEEDS TO BE OVERHAULED, LOOKED AT. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS TO USE CITIZEN BODIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. THOSE BODIES ARE STAFFED BY CITY STAFF, PEOPLE TO HELP PROVIDE STAFFING AND GUIDANCE AND ALL OF THAT. AND THEN IT BUBBLES UP TO US TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON THOSE THINGS. BUT THEY ARE THE RATEPAYERS. THEY'RE THE END USERS. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD THAT KICK OFF BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT POINT, I SEE. WELL, THAT'S A LOT TO UNPACK IN THERE, BUT I GUESS I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS SOME. PROCESS AT FOOT TO LOOK AT THE WAY THAT WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE ORDINANCE, ON THE BOOKS ARE BEING INTERPRETED AND IMPLEMENTED IN OPERATIONALLY, THE THE WAY THAT THEY'RE INTENDED. SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THAT I'M, I'M NOT 100% SURE THAT IT IS SEEMS THAT CERTAIN FOLKS MAY HAVE INTERPRETED ONE WAY AND OTHERS THE OTHER. SO HAVING SOME CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALREADY KIND OF LOOKING AT. I THINK THE OTHER POINT THAT YOU MAKE ABOUT GETTING OUR COMMISSIONS ACTIVE AND WE'RE WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THAT. THERE HAS BEEN SOME FOLLOW UP WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL ENGAGED, BUT MANY OF THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE STILL, STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF VACANCIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET A STRATEGY ON HOW TO BRING THOSE FORWARD TO COUNCIL SO THAT THEY CAN BE MOVED, MOVED ALONG QUICKLY. I JUST WANT TO AND SOME OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LEGISLATION THAT ESTABLISHES THEM IS WRITTEN, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE CONCURRENT WITH THEIR APPOINTING MEMBERS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN IN 2026, IF THERE IS BY ANY LEGISLATION THAT ESTABLISHES A BOARD, AUTHORITY OR COMMISSION, THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD MAKE THE APPROPRIATE APPOINTMENT SO THE CITIZENS CAN BE ENGAGED AND INVOLVED AND A PART OF THIS PROCESS SO THAT THESE THINGS WORK FOR ALL OF THESE POINT. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT UTILITY BILL ORDINANCE REWRITE AT A FUTURE WORK SESSION? DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE TO HOPEFULLY HAVE YOU OPERABLE A MUNICIPAL UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION WITH ENOUGH PEOPLE TO HAVE A MEETING LIKE.OR DO WE JUST MOVE ON BECAUSE THOSE DECISIONS DON'T HAVE TO BE MADE TONIGHT EITHER. BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE READY TO ADOPT AN AT THAT. THERE IS CONSENSUS TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TONIGHT. IF THAT IS THE CASE. WE ITEM NUMBER 35. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO MOVE THAT TO THE JANUARY WORK SESSION? I THINK IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE WORK SESSION. COUNCIL MEMBER CLEMENS ISN'T HERE, BUT IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ITEM NUMBER 35, GO TO THE JANUARY WORK SESSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM ON THAT MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER 32 AND 33 BEFORE EITHER BEFORE WE REMOVE ITEMS 28 AND 29 FROM THE TABLE. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WHICH ORDER WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO IN? CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
[XIV.32. Council Discussion and Possible Action on an Ordinance to Amend the Code of Ordinances for East Point, Georgia at Division II Code of Local Government, Part 4 Administration, Chapter 6 Domestic Partnership; to Repeal Chapter 6 in Its Entirety; to Provide for Severability; to Promote the Public Health, Safety and Welfare, and for Other Purposes. (Part 1 of 2)]
ON ITEM NUMBER 32? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE WORK SESSION, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE. YOU HAVE IT NOW AND IT IS NOT DETAILED. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. CURRENTLY IN YOUR[04:35:04]
ORDINANCE YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS YOU WANT FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY FILE CLAIMS THIS. THIS MOSTLY REFERS TO THE PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIMS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHEN. WHAT'S WRONG AND NOT OH OH. MY AGENDA SAYS 32 IS THE CLAIMS AND. IT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S NOT RIGHT. WHAT YOU GOT IS NOT RIGHT. THROW THAT AWAY. NO, NO, THAT'S. BUT THAT'S STILL NOT RIGHT. THAT'S NOT THE MOST RECENT DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP EITHER. OH OKAY. OKAY. CLAIMS 32 IS THE CLAIMS I GOT CLAIMS YOU GOT IT PRINTED. OH OKAY. MOMENTUM. YOU GOT THAT ON OUR AGENDA 32 IS THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP ORDINANCE ON MY 32 IS CLAIMS THE CLAIMS FORM. BUT WE CAN TAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 32 AND GO TO THE CLAIMS FORM OKAY. MOTION TO TABLE 32. SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION[XIV.33. Council Discussion and Possible Action on New Reports and Proof of Claims Form Ordinance]
CARRIES. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ITEM NUMBER 33? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN. CITY ATTORNEY. YES. OKAY. SO NOW YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE ORDINANCE REGARDING THE CLAIMS FORM CURRENTLY IN YOUR ORDINANCE, WHICH IS THE LANGUAGE THAT IS STRUCK THROUGH, PROVIDES FOR THIS LIST OF DOCUMENTS. YOU GOT ONE FOR ME. THANK YOU. A LIST OF DOCUMENTS THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR FROM COMPLAINANTS WHEN THEY WANT TO MAKE A CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY FOR ACCIDENTS, AND THE THE FORM THAT WE USE THOUGH, DOESN'T MATCH THE ORDINANCE. AND TO CHANGE THE FORM TO MATCH THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE WE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE INVESTIGATE ALREADY. AND TREAT THESE TYPE OF CLAIMS AND ACCIDENTS IN A MUCH MORE.SOPHISTICATED WAY THAN THEM PUTTING IT ON THE FORM, LIKE ASKING FOR THEIR NAME OF THEIR PHYSICIAN, OR THE HOSPITAL, OR THE NAME OF THE NURSES OR DRUGSTORE. LIKE THERE'S NO FORM THAT CAN EVEN ACCOMMODATE ALL THAT. THE FORM WOULD THEN BE PAGES AND PAGES LONG, ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE ARE HURT IN AN ACCIDENT WHERE THEY'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. SO WE CHANGED THE ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THE FORM THAT WE USE THAT MAKES MORE SENSE, WHICH ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED FIRST, OBVIOUSLY, IS DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE FORM IS TIMELY. SECONDLY, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY LIABILITY TO THE CITY, WHETHER WE WERE AT FAULT IN THE ACCIDENT, ALL OF THAT, AND WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE JUST WAS A LITTLE EXTRA. AND WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOAL OF ONLY SETTLING OR ACCEPTING LIABILITY FOR THOSE ACCIDENTS FOR WHICH WE ARE LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE. WITHOUT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION. OKAY, THERE IS AN AMENDED ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US THAT SIMPLIFIES THE PROOF OF CLAIM FORM AND PROCESSING OF CLAIMS. PER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION AND THERE WAS A DESIRE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS, THE MOTION AWAY, THE FIRST READING WOULD BE NEEDED. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. OH, COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE, THANK YOU. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING, SECOND BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS? NO. OH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS ITEM.
MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS, I MOVE THAT WE AMEND. I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR EAST POINT, GEORGIA AT DIVISION TWO, CODE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, PART FOUR ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER FOUR CITY OFFICERS AND OFFICIALS.
ARTICLE B CITY ATTORNEY, SECTION 44028 CLAIMS AGAINST CITY FORM FOR PROOF OF CLAIM
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SUPPLY FORMS. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE SECOND MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER MARK ROGERS. DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THAT TAKES CARE OF 33. CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE? REMOVE ITEMS 28, 29 AND 32 FROM THE TABLE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, IS THERE ANY ORDER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THESE THREE IN 3 OR 2? WE HAVE THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP.THAT'S STILL OKAY. SO THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP ISSUE WAS SENT. SO HOLD ON. LET ME GET A
[XIV.32. Council Discussion and Possible Action on an Ordinance to Amend the Code of Ordinances for East Point, Georgia at Division II Code of Local Government, Part 4 Administration, Chapter 6 Domestic Partnership; to Repeal Chapter 6 in Its Entirety; to Provide for Severability; to Promote the Public Health, Safety and Welfare, and for Other Purposes. (Part 2 of 2)]
MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ITEM NUMBER 32. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THOSE OPPOSED.MOTION CARRIES. THE FLOOR IS OPEN. CITY ATTORNEY? YES. THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP ORDINANCE WAS SENT TO COUNCIL, MAYOR AND CITY CLERK ON OCTOBER 13TH. THIS WAS THE REVISION AFTER IT APPEARED ON THE WORK SESSION, AND WE HAD SOME IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. AFTER THAT, I LET ME BACK UP. IT WAS ORIGINALLY SENT TO COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER ONLY BECAUSE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE REMOVED FROM THE ORDINANCE. IN FACT, IT WAS REPEALED IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND SHE EXPRESSED THE DESIRE TO KEEP THAT DESIGNATION IN THE ORDINANCE. SO I REVISED THE ORDINANCE, BUT ONLY SENT IT TO COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER AND DID NOT SEND IT TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. AND THAT WAS BACK IN SEPTEMBER. WHEN IT CAME BACK ON THE WORK SESSION, IT WAS REALIZED THAT IT WAS ONLY SENT TO HER. AND SO THEN I SENT IT TO EVERYONE ON OCTOBER 13TH. AND THAT IS THE ORDINANCE THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF YOUR PACKAGE THAT REFLECTS THE FINAL DRAFT OF A REVISION TO CHAPTER SIX OF OUR CODE. BASICALLY, THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP. SEGREGATED PERSONS MARRIED IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS VERSUS PERSONS MARRIED TO DIFFERENT SEX RELATIONSHIPS. AND IT SHOULDN'T DO THAT. AND SO WE HAVE CLEANED THAT UP WHERE IT DOESN'T DO THAT. WE'VE ALSO LIMITED THE USE OF THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP AFFIDAVIT TO BENEFITS THAT THE CITY PROVIDES.
LIKE YOU CAN'T TAKE OUR AFFIDAVIT AND TAKE IT UP TO, I DON'T KNOW, ALPHARETTA AND TRY TO GET SOME PERKS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP DESIGNATION. AND SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES, I THINK I EVALUATED ATLANTA, MAYBE DECATUR, SOME OTHER CITIES AROUND THE STATE WHO ALSO HAVE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP ORDINANCES. IT WAS CLEAR, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WE DO NOT CARVE OUT WHO YOU'RE MARRIED TO ONE. SECONDLY, IT WAS ALSO CLEAR THAT THE BENEFIT OF A DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP DESIGNATION WAS ONLY FOR LIKE CITY BENEFITS OR INSURANCE PURPOSES, NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE FOR WHICH THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT FORM IN FRONT OF ME, BECAUSE ALL THIS ONE SAYS IS CHAPTER SIX RESERVED AND READ. THAT IS OLD. THAT'S THE ONE THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN SEPTEMBER, AND A REVISION WAS SENT TO AGAIN, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE ON OCTOBER. 30TH, 13TH OCTOBER 13TH. I'M SORRY, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY CLERK MAY HAVE PRINTED OUT THE WRONG VERSION. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TABLE THIS AGAIN. MADAM CITY CLERK, DO YOU HAVE THE. YOU SAID OCTOBER 13TH, OCTOBER 13TH AT 10:57 P.M. OKAY.
THIS ITEM AGAIN. I JUST GOT A QUICK QUESTION. DEFER TO ANOTHER MEETING. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE DEFER THIS ITEM TO THE FIRST REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN
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JANUARY 2026. DO WE WANT TO GO TO A WORK SESSION AGAIN? ITEM YOU WERE DEFERRING TO THE TO THE WORK SESSION. JANUARY. THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP? YES. JANUARY. WORK SESSION DEFERRED TO THE JANUARY WORK SESSION. OH. PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER SHROPSHIRE.DISCUSSION. YEAH. DISCUSSION. I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT. SO HOW DID THIS ORDINANCE COME ABOUT? YES, MA'AM. SO THE ORDINANCE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE PROVIDES, AND IT STILL WOULD PROVIDE THAT PERSON SEEKING THAT DESIGNATION, GO TO BUSINESS LICENSES TO GET IT.
AND SO SOMEONE DID IN FACT. WAIT. SO THAT'S I'M SAYING, HOW DID IT COME TO YOU TO MAKE THE CHANGES? THAT'S WHAT I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU. OKAY. SO SOMEONE A CITIZEN DID IN FACT GO TO BUSINESS LICENSES TO ASK FOR THE AFFIDAVIT. AND DIRECTOR SMITH'S TEAM WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT EVEN WAS A THING. AND SO SHE MET WITH ME TO DISCUSS THE ORDINANCE. AND WHEN I READ IT, I SAW WHERE THERE WAS THAT WHOLE WHO YOU MARRIED TO SITUATION. RIGHT. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION INITIALLY WAS JUST REPEAL THE WHOLE THING. WE DON'T NEED TO EVEN GET INTO THAT BECAUSE SAME SEX MARRIAGES ARE LEGAL IN OUR COUNTRY NOW.
RIGHT. BUT SO WHEN I PRESENTED THE REPEAL OF THAT SECTION TO THE COUNCIL, WE DISCUSSED IT IN A WORK SESSION. AND SO THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY WAS DO SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT, LIKE, LET'S NOT REPEAL IT. LET'S KEEP THE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP ORDINANCE, BUT LET'S MAKE IT CONSTITUTIONAL. SO THAT'S HOW I GOT TO IT, BECAUSE IT CAME UP THROUGH DIRECTOR SMITH'S OFFICE.
OKAY. ATKINS. I'M SORRY IT WAS LEFT OVER. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE JANUARY WORK SESSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. GET A
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MOTION. EXCUSE ME. TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER 28. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. SO MY MY CONVERSATION WILL ACTUALLY BE ABOUT 27 AND 28. YEAH. SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT ON 27 AND THEN SAY TO TAKE THE SAME ACTION ON 20. SO I THINK 28 AND THEN TAKE THE SAME ACTION ON 29. SO HERE'S MY RECOMMENDATION. 28 IS ABOUT TAD NUMBER. CORRECT. THAT WAS ADVERTISED TO BE ADOPTED TODAY. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BOARD IS THAT WE GO BACK, FIND OUT THE VALUES OF HOTELS, AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO TRADE OUT PARCELS, TO THEN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. I DO THE LAW IS. NOT VERY CLEAR IN THAT WHETHER OR NOT A REJECTION IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT, A MOTION TO DENY IS CLEARLY A REJECTION, BUT A MOTION TO BRING IT TO ANOTHER MEETING IS NOT AS CLEAR. SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON ALL FOURS SO THAT IF ANYBODY COMES BACK AND TRIES TO CHALLENGE THE CREATION OF THESE TWO TABS, OR IT MIGHT JUST BE ONE AFTER WE FIGURE OUT THE NUMBERS. BUT THE CREATION OF THE TAD IS TO DO THE FOLLOWING. WE WILL ADVERTISE FOR A NEW PUBLIC HEARING AND A NEW MEETING TO OCCUR ON THE SAME DAY, AND IT WILL REQUIRE MY. THIS IS A CHANGE FROM WHAT I SAID BEFORE. IT WILL REQUIRE FIVE BUSINESS DAYS FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT. I DO BELIEVE AFTER READING 30 6-8- 29, I DID CONFER WITH ATTORNEY JOHNSON TO MAKE SURE THAT MY READING WAS CLEAR. IS THAT THAT CODE SECTION? GIVE ME ONE MINUTE. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY OF IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2023, WHICH AGAIN IS AFTER COVID. SO WE READ THIS CODE SECTION THAT ELECTRONIC ADVERTISING IS NOT IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT, BUT IT'S IT'S AN[04:50:02]
ADDITIONAL WAY THAT YOU CAN ADVERTISE FOR LEGAL ADS. AND IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE FACT THAT AJCC IS ONLY ONLINE. RIGHT? ALSO, SOUTH FULTON NEIGHBOR WENT TO ONLINE. SO I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FIVE BUSINESS DAYS WITH A ELECTRONIC LEGAL POSTING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE MEETING FOR THE TWO TABS, AND YOU CAN HAVE THE MEETING. LET ME GET MY CALENDAR. TODAY IS THE 15TH. IF MADAM CLERK SENDS IT TO THE PAPER TOMORROW FOR ELECTRONIC POSTING ON THE 17TH. YES, MISS MCCULLOUGH. THEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE DAYS IS CHRISTMAS EVE. OBVIOUSLY, Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO COME THEN. SO YOU CAN HAVE THE MEETING ON THE 26TH OR THE 29TH. ONE MORE TIME. THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS. I'M JUST GIVING YOU DATES. I'M NOT SAYING YOU GOTTA DO IT THAT DAY, BUT I THINK I THINK I HEARD THE 29TH AS AN OPTION. THAT CERTAINLY WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS. YES, MA'AM. I HAD A QUESTION. OH, AND I THINK WHEN WE ADVERTISE THEM, SINCE THEY NOW HAVE THE NAME THE WILLINGHAM TAD THREE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT, TAD FOR SYLVAN OAKLEY. SO ARE THE NAMES IN THE AGENDA TODAY CORRECT.THE LAST PARTS ARE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT. WELL, HE HAS IT. IT'S ON THE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT SAYS TAD THREE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT. AND THEN THE TAKE OUT SOUTH AND PUT THREE TAKE OUT THAT NUMBER THREE WILLINGHAM INNOVATION DISTRICT AND TAD NUMBER FOUR SYLVAN OAKLEY GOT IT THAT DISTRICT. AND DEPENDING ON THE CONVERSATIONS RIGHT THAT WILL GIVE US THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE WITH. AND SO THIS CONVERSATION GOT TO HAPPEN TOMORROW BECAUSE SHE GOTTA GET IT TO THE PAPER TOMORROW. I THINK WE'RE PUBLISHING TOMORROW REGARDLESS. OKAY. SO THE NAMES WON'T CHANGE DEPENDING IF THE PARCELS CHANGE TRACKING. NO, THEY'LL STILL HAVE THE SAME NAMES, BUT AND YOU CAN CALL AROUND FOR A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TOMORROW. THAT WAY WE'RE NOT. OH, WE CAN DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A NEW PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL OF THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SPECIAL CALL MEETING FOR THE 29TH SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE MEETING ON THE SAME NIGHT, BUT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO AREN'T HERE MIGHT ALSO WANT TO BE IN ON THE CALL OF THE MEETING. SO WE COULD JUST CALL AROUND FOR THAT. BUT SAME TIME AS USUAL. YEAH. YOU DON'T NEED THE CALL TOMORROW. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE. SO THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO DO 6:00 ON MONDAY THE 29TH OR DURING THE DAY? WHENEVER? WHAT TIME ARE WE GOING TO DO? OH, I HAVE COURT ON THE 29TH. YEAH, I FORGOT I HAVE COURT ON THE 29TH. I MEAN I COULD DO THE EVENING, BUT I HAVE. SO ARE WE SAYING THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD START AT WHAT TIME. YEAH I WANT TO DO SIX. SIX AND THE MEETING TO START AT 630. THAT WORKS. OKAY. I WILL WORK WITH MISS MCCULLOCH TO GET THAT SENT TO THE PAPER TOMORROW. AND WE CAN RUN IT IN ALL OF THEM. SOUTH FULTON AJC TO COVER OUR BASES AND. WE THINK 30 MINUTES IS ENOUGH FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH ON THE 29TH. YEP. OH, BECAUSE WE WILL AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO BE HERE. OH. BECAUSE THEN WE'LL HAVE THE MEETING FOR DISCUSSION. THAT'S WHETHER OR NOT PUBLIC IS HERE TO. YEAH. AND IT'S FINE IF THE PUBLIC HEARING RUNS OVER. RIGHT. SO IF YOU IF YOU SAY IT, MAKE THE MEETING AT SEVEN AND NOBODY COMES AND YOU WAITING AROUND TILL 7:00 TO START YOUR MEETING, BUT YOU CAN START YOUR MEETING LATE. YOU CAN'T START IT EARLY. I FORGOT I HAVE COURT AND IT MIGHT BE A FULL DAY, SO.
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OKAY, THAT MADAM CITY CLERK WILL CALL EVERYONE IN CASE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO BE ON THE CALL FOR THE MEETING. SO THAT'S CORRECT ON ITEM NUMBER 28 OR 29, NO ACTION. I DON'T KNOW WHICH AGENDA YOU GOT. ON ITEMS DEALING WITH TAD THREE AND TAD FOUR. THERE'LL BE NO ACTION TAKEN TONIGHT. OKAY, THEN THAT TAKES US TO. OH, I HOPE THIS IS RHETORICAL, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT. EXECUTIVE SESSION. CITY ATTORNEY. YOU NEVER LET US DOWN. REAL ESTATE, LEGAL OR PERSONNEL. LITIGATION. ONE PERSON. MR. JONES. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. ONE REAL ESTATE, ONE REAL ESTATE. OKAY, COUNCIL. THAT'S IT. ANOTHER ONE. OKAY. SHE WON'T. ONE REAL ESTATE. WE[XV. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
DIDN'T. I GET A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO. I GOT TO SAY WHICH WAY THEY.TWO REAL ESTATE, TWO LITIGATION AND ONE PERSONNEL. SECOND. SHE DID YOU KNOW SHE YOU HAD TWO LITIGATION AND ONE REAL ESTATE, RIGHT? NO, YOU HAD TWO. SHE HAD TWO LITIGATION. ONE PERSON, MR. JONES, HAD ONE REAL ESTATE. AND COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS HAD ONE REAL ESTATE. SO NEED A MOTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO REAL ESTATE, TWO LITIGATION AND ONE PERSONNEL. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT'S TWO. ALL THOSE MO. MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. CAN I GET A MOTION TO IN THE MATTER OF MARTIS ANDREWS VERSUS CITY OF EAST POINT? PROCEED AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. I AIN'T NOBODY OVER HERE. THAT'S ONLY THREE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES IN THE MATTER OF MICHAEL WILLIAMS VERSUS CITY OF EAST POINT. NEED A MOTION TO PROCEED AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES A MOTION TO APPROVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. MEETING MINUTES. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. OH. IT'S ON THE FLOOR. THE THE HAM HANDS AND HAM GIVEAWAY IS THIS SATURDAY, DECEMBER 20TH AT NINE AT JEFFERSON PARK REC CENTER, EAST POINT. RESIDENTS ONLY MUST HAVE VALID ID ONE HAND OR HIM PER HOUSEHOLD, WHILE SUPPLIES LAST THIS SATURDAY AT NINE.
MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND. I MEANT I NEED A I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. ANY. I MEAN, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THAT'S NOT A MOTION. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
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