[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]
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          EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE JANUARY 12TH, 2026 WORK SESSION OF THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. 
          MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER, HEMING. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          FRIEDLI PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          CUMMINS WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CALDWELL PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. PRESENT. MAYOR. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO FOR THIS EVENING, WE HAVE FIVE PRESENTATIONS LISTED HERE. AND 
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I KNOW INITIALLY, SINCE COUNCILWOMAN STARR CUMMINGS ANNOUNCED THAT SHE WOULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE, WE ADDED A COUPLE, BUT IF IT IS IN THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, DO WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH FIVE PRESENTATIONS OR JUST GO WITH THE GO WITH THREE? AS THE RULES IMPLY? SO THERE'S A MOTION NEED TO BE MADE TO TO SPEND, SUSPEND THE RULES. OKAY. SO WE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THREE DISCUSSION. SORRY. YES MADAM MAYOR I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF OF OF INCLUDING THESE PRESENTATIONS IF THEY WERE LIMITED TO BETWEEN 10 AND 15 MINUTES. FIVE PRESENTATIONS EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE PER OUR WORK SESSION POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED IN APRIL 20TH, 2009. OKAY. WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE FIRST THREE PRESENTATION PRESENTATIONS. HAVE CONSENSUS. DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR. I'LL COME IN UNTIL WE'RE THERE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WOULD BE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS STARTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING. I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE THESE PRESENTATIONS. THEY ARE FIVE. AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE FOLKS HERE WHO HAVE PREPARED THE PRESENTATION FOR THIS EVENING. BUT BECAUSE OUR RULES DO STATE NO MORE THAN THREE, IF WE COULD JUST ASK THAT PERHAPS THE AMOUNT OF TIME IS MORE CLOSELY MONITORED. AND THEN IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, THEN WE MAY BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME OF THE PRESENTERS AND THEN SHARE THE INFORMATION IF WE NEED TO GET THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS MITCHELL, COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT I ALSO WANTED TO. JUST YES, ALL OF THE IN SUPPORT OF THE AGENDA. BUT WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IS GO THROUGH TO SEE WHAT WE CAN PLACE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN CIRCLE BACK AND. OKAY, SO WE COULD JUST WALK THROUGH IT TO SEE WHAT CAN GO, WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY IS IN? YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO CHIME IN AND SAY I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF HEARING ALL FIVE PRESENTATIONS. I'D LIKE TO GET A SENSE FROM THE CITY MANAGER. YOU HAVE THE LAST TWO, AND YOU WILL BE PRESENTING A GOOD BIT OF THE ONE THAT I HAVE ON THE AGENDA. CAN YOU ESTIMATE HOW WHAT SPAN OF TIME YOU'D NEED FOR THOSE? THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH, WE CERTAINLY CAN GO THROUGH THAT INFORMATION AT AN EXPEDIENT PACE, BUT THEY ARE THE ITEMS. ALL THREE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD ARE PREPARED TO GIVE ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE BUDGET. AND PART OF OUR ONGOING BUDGET CONVERSATION THAT LEADS UP TO THE APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET. SO IF YOU RECALL, THE SCHEDULE THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST WEEK, THESE ARE SOME PRETTY CRITICAL COMPONENTS TO STAY ON TRACK AND GET THE APPROPRIATE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL, AND ALSO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DISCUSSION OR AT LEAST PRESENTATION AND TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC. THANKS. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE TRY TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE TIME AND THESE PRESENTATIONS. 15 MINUTES. 
          RIGHT? YES 15 MINUTES. OKAY. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH. SO I WILL GO THROUGH THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN CIRCLE BACK TO THE PRESENTATIONS. YES. OKAY. SO 
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LET'S START WITH THE PREVIOUS AGENDA. ITEMS WILL BE LISTED IN RED UNLESS COUNCIL INDICATES READINESS FOR CONSENT. AND THESE ITEMS WILL CONTINUE TO BE DISCUSSION ITEMS. MOTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD WILL ONLY BE ENTERTAINED WHERE COUNCIL SIGNALS CONSENT READINESS. SO UPDATE ITEM NUMBER SIX. UPDATE ON POLICY POLICE POLICY. POLICE CHIEF HERE IS THE CHIEF HERE OR REPRESENTATIVE OR REPRESENTATIVE. NO. SO WE CAN CAN MOVE MOVE THAT ITEM TO DISCUSSION. YOU SAID HE IS SOMEONE HERE. YEAH. SO THAT STAYS OKAY OKAY. CITY CREDIT CARD POLICY AND TRAVEL POLICY. CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION OR SHALL WE MOVE TO CONSENT? NO. 
          TOGETHER WE WE NEED A DISCUSSION ON THOSE, MADAM MAYOR. AND THEY CAN. THEY'VE BEEN TRAVELING TOGETHER. SO ALL OF THAT CAN BE ONE PRESENTATION OR ONE DISCUSSION ITEM. BOTH THE CREDIT CARD POLICY AND THE TRAVEL POLICY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S SEE. SO THE IS THAT NUMBER EIGHT AS WELL. CITY COUNCIL CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS REIMBURSEMENT AND REPORTING. 
          YOU WANT TO ADD TRAVEL WITH SEVEN OKAY. YEP. ALL RIGHT. ORDINANCE SENIOR HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION. MR. MITCHELL I WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE TAX ASSESSOR. I WAS THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY. SO WE CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION. OKAY. SO THAT'S FEBRUARY THE 2ND OR THE NINTH THAT THE CLERK PLEASE TELL THE COURT. ALL RIGHT. MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, CAN YOU MOVE THAT TO THE FEBRUARY 9TH WORK SESSION? I WAS READY TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND AN ORDINANCE REPEAL DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP, CHAPTER PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. CITY ATTORNEY. YES, THAT CAN STAY. OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT. IT'S STAYING. MADAM MAYOR, REFERRING TO ITEM TEN. YES, REFERRING TO ITEM TEN. IF WE COULD MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION. OKAY. MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THAT TO THE FEBRUARY 9TH WORK SESSION. THE GRIEVANCE AND WHISTLEBLOWER POLICY SESSION? NO. NEXT WORK SESSION, DO WE? I KNOW IT'S MISS COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS ISN'T HERE. SO ARE WE MOVING AT OR IS THERE ANY NEED FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. WE CAN MOVE IT. IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS HERE, MOVE IT. YEAH. WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS? OKAY. MOVE IT. OKAY. THAT WILL ALSO BE MOVED TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION. ITEM NUMBER 11. CONFLICT OF INTEREST. CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY. THAT WILL ALSO BE MOVED TO THE WORK SESSION. AND THEN THE DATA CENTER MORATORIUM. MORATORIUM. YES. STAY HOWEVER, IS NOT A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. IT'S NEW. IT WAS NOT IT'S NOT A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION, BUT IT WAS AN AGENDA ITEM AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. RIGHT. SO MAY I HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THE CITY? I'M SORRY, I WOULD LIKE SOME DIRECTION. OR CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT ITEM? IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME ONE MOMENT? YES. IF NOT, I HAVE IT HERE. THE RULE YOU'RE REFERENCING. I'M REPRESENTING THE WORK SESSION AND HOW ITEMS MUST FIRST GO TO THE WORK SESSION. THEY CAN'T BE PLACED ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA UNTIL THEY FIRST BEEN TO A WORK SESSION. SO JUST BECAUSE AN ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA, IT CAN'T BE A NEW. IT CAN BE PLACED ON OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA, BUT IT'S NOT A NEW ITEM. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A PREVIOUS ITEM. IT CAN BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT. WELL, THIS IS THE WORK SESSION POLICY REFERENCING ADOPTED APRIL 20TH, 2009. AND ITEMS CAN BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA DURING THE WORK SESSION. ALL RIGHT. 
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I'M GOING TO REFER TO WORK SESSION ZERO EIGHT 2006. IT GOES ON TO SAY WHEREAS PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL RULE 15, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY PLACE ITEMS OF THE REGULAR MEETING AGENDA PROVIDED THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED FOR DISCUSSION AT A CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. 
          FIRST, THIS ITEM IS A NEW AGENDA ITEM AND IT SHOULD BE MOVED UNDER NEW AGENDA ITEM. 
          GREAT! OKAY, LET'S MOVE 1520. YES, RESOLUTION. SO THIS CAN BE ADDED TO THIS. THE SECOND PAGE. 
          MADAM MAYOR, UNDER NEW AGENDA ITEMS OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 13 TO NEW AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. AND THEN UPDATE ON 2024 AUDIT COUNCILWOMAN. YES. THAT CAN REMAIN. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. 
          EXCUSE ME, MADAM MAYOR, THE POLICY YOU'RE REFERENCING, DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS ALSO STATES THAT THERE'S A LIMIT OF ITEMS THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CAN PLACE. THE THE POLICY IS CONFLICTING. IN ONE PLACE, IT READS TWO ITEMS AND THE OTHER PLACE IT READS THREE. AND IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHETHER IT IS BY NEW AGENDA ITEM OR PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S SIX ITEMS FOR YOU DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS. CORRECT. SO WE WOULD NEED SOME DIRECTION ON HOW MANY OF THOSE CAN REMAIN. SO I WILL ANSWER THAT THAT I WILL ANSWER THAT ANY ITEM THAT HAS BEEN ON ANY COUNCIL WORK SESSION OR COUNCIL MEETING, REGULAR AGENDA, IT CAN ALWAYS BE BROUGHT BACK. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR AS COUNCIL MEMBER HENNING SAID. 
          HENNING I'M SORRY. YES, ALL OF THOSE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS HAVE BEEN A PART OF EAST POINT'S ONGOING REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETINGS AND OUR ONGOING WORK SESSION MEETINGS. 
          AS FAR AS THE THREE NEW ITEMS, IT'S A WORK SESSION POLICY THAT WAS APPROVED IN APRIL OF APRIL 20TH, 2009. NUMBER THREE SAYS COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN SUBMIT THREE AGENDA ITEMS PER WORK SESSION. IF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER DOES NOT SUBMIT TWO ITEMS FOR A WORK SESSION, THEY MAY GIVE THEIR ALLOCATION TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL. I'LL WAIT FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, AND YES, PURSUANT TO THE WORK SESSION POLICY, A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SUBMIT THREE AGENDA ITEMS PER WORK SESSION. AND YOU ARE TRYING TO ADD. I'M NOT TRYING TO ADD ANYTHING. ALL OF THE ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 14 I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE JUST RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT THE 2024 AUDIT. THAT'S A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LITTER SINCE 2012. AND MY NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CITY WIDE COMMUNITY STREET REPAVING, WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. SO I GUESS WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON OR RESOLUTIONS ON PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS. IT IS ALWAYS BEEN THE PRACTICE THAT NO MATTER WHAT IS A CARRYOVER, IF IT HAS BEEN TO THE AGENDA, IT'S BEEN A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. AND BEAR WITH ME ONE MOMENT PLEASE. OKAY. AND WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, IS THERE ANY WAY, AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THESE AGENDA OR ADDING THEM TO THE ITEMS, IF THERE'S ANY REFERENCE INTO IN TERMS OF IF THEY'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED OR PRESENTED ON ANOTHER AGENDA, JUST TO CONFIRM SO THAT IF. THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE BEEN, THEN WE KNOW THAT I CAN GOOGLE IT. YEAH. OKAY. WHAT. AND KEISHA, I'VE OFFERED TO GIVE. I'M SORRY, MAYOR, I'VE OFFERED TO GIVE TWO OF MY OR THREE OF MY AGENDA ITEMS TO COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT IF IF THIS IF THE PAST AGENDA ITEMS. OH, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          BUT THERE'S NO POLICY. THAT STATES PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS CANNOT COME BACK. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, IF THAT IS THE CASE, CAN WE JUST MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER CALDWELL JUST STATED THAT SHE WOULD GIVE UP HER AGENDA ITEMS TO COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS, AND THEN 
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YOU CAN FIND THAT ORDINANCE, YOU CAN FIND THAT LEGISLATION. BUT WE COULD MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE EACH OF THE ITEMS. WITH THAT TAKING PLACE. YES, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IT ELIMINATES THE ISSUE IMMEDIATELY, BUT I WILL STILL RESEARCH FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO THEY ARE STAYING 14, 1514 1415 AND 16 ARE STAYING. AND JUST TO RECAP OKAY. NUMBER SIX SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE STAYING. SO EIGHT NINE IS STAYING NUMBER TEN NOT NINE I'M SORRY. NUMBER 9TH FEBRUARY WORK SESSION. RIGHT. 910 1112. WE'RE GOING TO FEBRUARY WORK SESSION. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN ATKINS. AND NUMBER 13 IS GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEW ITEMS. NUMBER 14, 15 AND 16 WILL REMAIN ON THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. MOVING ON TO THE NEW AGENDA ITEMS. ALL NEW ITEMS WILL BE ADDRESSED INDIVIDUALLY. OPERATION. PROCUREMENT ITEMS MAY BE MOVED TO CONSENT IF NO COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS. DISCUSSION. EMERGENCY REPAIRS ARE TIME SENSITIVE AND MAY BE ACTED ON IMMEDIATELY. POLICY. ORDINANCE IN INFORMATION ITEMS WILL CONTINUE AS DISCUSSION ITEMS UNLESS CONSENT IS INDICATED. SO FOR WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17, WHICH IS THE MOA 2025 SOUTH FULTON COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN BY PUBLIC WORKS. IS THIS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT? CONSENT. THANK YOU. VENDOR. ASSOCIATED FUEL REAR LOCATED I MEAN LOADER GARBAGE TRUCK. SOLID WASTE OPERATIONAL. IS THIS ITEM ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT? CONSENT. THANK YOU. EMERGENCY STORM LINE REPAIR 2025. THANK YOU. EMERGENCY. I'M SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THAT ONE. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. YEAH. THAT ONE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A TIME SENSITIVE. AND IF I UNDERSTAND THE AGENDA PACKET, THERE'S A REQUEST FOR AN ACTION THIS EVENING. IF WE MOVE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING'S CONSENT, IT MIGHT BE AFTER THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR THE SINKHOLE. YES. SO IT SHOULD STAY. AND WE SHOULD SO DISCUSS IT. IT SHOULD STAY. WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT AND THEN ACT ON IT. THANK YOU. IS THAT THE SAME FOR NUMBER 20? THIS IS A YES. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY STORM LINE AND SO IS NUMBER 20. SO. WHAT IS IT? NUMBER 18. NUMBER 19 SAYS YOU HAVE A QUESTION. MADAM MAYOR, SHOULD WE GET A CLARIFICATION FROM WATER AND SEWER ABOUT THE INTENTION OF THIS ITEM FOR THE TWO ITEMS 19 AND 20, THEY'RE BOTH EMERGENCY SEWER LINE REPAIR. OKAY. SOMEONE FROM THE WATER AND SEWER CITY MANAGER. 
          SO I'M SORRY TO BRING HER UP. NO. ASK HIM TO TALK. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE FROM WATER AND SEWER TO PRESENT? JUST GIVE US SOME BRIEF INFORMATION, PLEASE. STAFF CHECKING. USUALLY WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY ITEM ON THERE, IT'S ALREADY HAVE BEEN DONE. 
          AND WE'RE KIND OF PAYING PAYING CATCH UP. SO I THINK WE'RE CHECKING TO SEE IF THAT'S THE CASE IN THIS SITUATION. AND I'LL LET THE COUNCIL KNOW ONCE I KNOW. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE WILL REVISIT ITEMS 1920 AND WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 21. I HAVE VENDOR WAS THIS MUELLER CITY WIDE LEAK DETECTORS. IS IT. BLACK JACK PAVING WEST CLEVELAND AVE RESURFACING ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT OKAY VENDOR C VERTICAL EARTH DESERT DRIVE MILLING AND RESURFACING I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION. YES. PARAMOUNT COUNTY CUTTING, CONTRACTING SILVER SYLVAN ROAD NORTH SIDEWALK I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION. GEORGIA SEWER AND STORM CONNOLLY DRIVE SIDEWALK PROJECT DISCUSSION. OKAY. REZONING 2461 MCALPIN 
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TERRACE. DISCUSSION. YES. OKAY. OKAY. PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR FULTON COUNTY ARTS GRANT. THIS IS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT. YES. MADAM MAYOR, CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER? THERE WAS A REFERENCE OF A DEADLINE OF JANUARY 15TH WITH THIS ITEM. MR. CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU CONFIRM, PLEASE, CHECKING ON THE NUMBER OF WHAT ITEM WE'RE ON? WE'RE ON ITEM. WE ARE ON ITEM 27. IS IT? YES. YEP. YES, IT IS TIME. IT'S TIME SENSITIVE OKAY. SO THIS NEEDS. YES. DISCUSSION ON THE PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR FULTON COUNTY ARTS GRANT. YES. WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT TONIGHT. OKAY. NEXT ITEM. AIRPORT WEST SID 2025 EXPANSION RESOLUTION. 
          CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO DISCUSS THAT DISCUSSION. OKAY. MOVING ON TO THE EAST POINT DAY AT THE CAPITOL SESSION. DISCUSSION OR CONSENT DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. STANDARDIZED COUNCIL TRANSPORTATION AND TRAINING PROCESS DISCUSSION, PLEASE. OKAY. RIGGS, DRIVE GUARDRAIL SAFETY ISSUE DISCUSSION. DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF FULTON COUNTY RESOLUTION ORDINANCE. I DON'T HAVE THAT. YES. DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. SORRY, I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T. THAT'S ON 31. OKAY. AND THEN GOLDEN YEARS SENIOR FAIR 20 PEARLS FOUNDATION. PARKS AND RECREATION. WE CAN DISCUSS IT. THE THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS IN THE AGENDA. IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO A SENIOR FAIR IN EASTPOINTE ON MARCH 21ST. IF YOU ALL WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT, I CAN DO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THE OKAY, THE INVESTMENT POLICY DISCUSSION POLICY THAT CAN BE MOVED TO THE FEBRUARY WORK SESSION. MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, DO YOU HAVE A NOTE OF THAT MOVING. THANK YOU. I HAVE, I HAVE I'M SORRY. I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE AGENDA. WE DON'T HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA. NORMALLY, IF THERE'S A WORK SESSION, WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OPTION. SO THAT DOESN'T APPEAR ON THIS WORK SESSION. AND IN THE PAST IT HAS APPEARED ON WORK SESSION AGENDAS BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY LEGAL ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS. WHEN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS PART, ONE WILL BE CALLED FOR, BUT IT NORMALLY APPEARS ON HERE TO GIVE US THE OPTION BEFORE ADJOURNING THE MEETING. AM I CORRECT OR NO FOR OUR WORK SESSIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD THE OPTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION IS ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS WELL AS THE ROLL CALL AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO WE WILL MOVE ON. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CIRCLE. BACK TO THE PRESENTATIONS FOR TONIGHT. AND LET'S SEE. LET'S SEE. IS THIS THE FIRST ONE. IT WILL BE THE. 
          MADAM MAYOR. YES. SORRY. DID WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THE TWO EMERGENCY WATER REPAIRS OR. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS RESOLVED. NOT RESOLVED? WE WERE STILL WAITING FOR TIMING. WE DO 
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HAVE SOMEBODY CAN SPEAK TO IT. I JUST MADE THE POINT THAT THE EMERGENCY HAS BEEN PAID FOR ALREADY. SO IF YOU WANT THE DETAILS OF THE EMERGENCY, WE CAN GO INTO THAT. SO WE DO, DO WE? WE NEED TO CONSENT FOR THOSE THOSE TWO ITEMS. I BELIEVE THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY IF THE QUESTION IS IF YOU WANTED SPECIFICS AS TO THOSE EMERGENCIES, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM. BUT THEY THEY DID. OKAY. SO DO WE WANT OKAY. YEAH. YES. LET'S REVIEW FOR THE THESE TWO. 
          YES WE WILL. YES. OKAY. WELL I'LL HAVE A DIRECTOR ETCHEVERRY COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THOSE EMERGENCIES. THANK YOU. 
          [II.1. Council Review and Discussion of the Proposed Gateway and Wayfinding Signage Design]
CITY MANAGER, ARE YOU READY FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION? YES. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS COME UP AND PLEASE WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM. AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OTHER GUESTS AS WELL. YES, MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK, CAN YOU START THE TIMER, PLEASE? I THINK YES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU. FIRST TIME SEEING YOU GUYS THIS YEAR. OUR PRESENTATION TODAY WILL BE PRESENTATION ON OUR CITY LIMITS SIGN AND WAYFINDING SIGN. AND WE HAVE OUR CONTRACTOR THAT WHO HAS DONE THE DESIGN FOR US. THEY WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION. THEY ARE AWARE OF THE TIME THAT'S THERE DEPUTY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WILL PRESENT THEM TO YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TODAY. I HAVE A GROUP WHO'S WORKED WITH US SINCE 2021. IT'S BEEN A WHILE ON THIS GATEWAY AND WAYFINDING PROJECT. WE'RE HERE TODAY TO REINTRODUCE THE PROJECT TO SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND GO OVER THE DESIGN AND ULTIMATELY SEEK APPROVAL TO TO PROCEED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR GATEWAY WAYFINDING PROJECT. SO I'LL INTRODUCE OUR GROUP HERE. 
          THANK YOU SIR. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL, PLEASURE TO BE IN FRONT OF THIS BODY AGAIN. WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO MAKE AN INITIAL PRESENTATION OF THE SIGNAGE DESIGN THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED FOR THE CITY, AND WHEN WE LEFT HERE, EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. WE WERE ASKED TO COME BACK DOWN AND MAKE ANOTHER PRESENTATION WITH A NEW BODY SITTING IN FRONT OF US. BASED ON A TIMELY OR TIMELINESS TO TRY TO GENERATE NEW SIGNS BEING PUT IN AND PRIOR TO THE WORLD CUP BEGINNING. SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TRY TO WALK YOU BACK THROUGH THE DESIGNS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY OUR SIGN COMMITTEE, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE THE DESIGN ELEMENTS. BY THE WAY, MY NAME IS DAVE COSSACK. I'M PRESIDENT OF KMA DESIGN. I SHOULD HAVE INTRODUCED MYSELF WITH ME IS FRANK SPINNEY. HE'S MY ONE OF MY GRAPHIC DESIGNERS AND MY LEAD CONSTRUCTION GUY. SO. WE CAME UP WITH THE SIGNS THAT GO WITH THE INDUSTRIAL LOOK OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA. WE DID DESIGN OPTIONS AS FAR AS COLOR. THESE WILL BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE MATERIAL BREAKDOWNS, WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL ITEM FOR MATERIALS, BUT WE DO GIVE YOU SOME COLOR OPTIONS FOR ILLUMINATION. WE HAVE A COMPLETE WASH IN THE BACKGROUND. OR WE COULD DO THE OUTLINE OF THE INDIVIDUAL LETTERS. YOU'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THAT. AND IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BUILT TO BE MULTIPLE COLORS. IT CAN BE A SINGLE COLOR DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR MOOD IS AT ANY GIVEN POINT. SO USUALLY RGB ALLOWS YOU TO CELEBRATE PERIODIC EVENTS, BE IT SOMETHING LIKE BREAST CANCER AWARENESS OR PROSTATE AWARENESS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. SO YOU CAN INTRODUCE COLOR INTO THE SIGNS. AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THESE WOULD BE ON THE PRIMARY ROADS ENTERING INTO THE CITY. THESE ARE THE LARGER FORMAT SIGNS. THESE ARE THE TEN FOOT SIGNS BY EIGHT FOOT. AND THESE ONES HERE ARE THE SMALLER ONES SIX FOOT WHICH WILL BE ON THE SECONDARY ROADS THAT ARE STILL LEADING YOU INTO THE CITY, BUT NOT AS PROMINENT. WE ALSO HAVE THE TERTIARY ONES WHICH WILL BE ON THE OUTER SKIRTS ROADS COMING INTO THE CITY. ONCE WE GET INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE CAME UP WITH INDIVIDUAL 
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FREESTANDING SIGNS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE OFFICIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT RESEMBLE THE MAIN ENTRANCES TO KEEP A STEADY FLOW THROUGH. NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS. AND THEN WE HAVE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS THAT WILL LEAD YOU THROUGHOUT THE CITY, LEADING YOU TO THE HIERARCHY OF SIGNS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. THESE ONES WOULD BE ON THE MAJOR ROADS. THIS HAS A HIGHER CAP HEIGHT FOR A HIGHER SPEED OF RATE OF SPEED. SORRY. AND THEN THE DOUBLE PANELS. WE FOLLOWED THE MUTCD GUIDELINES, WHICH GIVES YOU THREE MESSAGES PER SIDE OF EACH SIGN. THE ONE IN THE BOTTOM PART, WHICH HAS A BAND THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL PANEL. IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED TO ADD A SECONDARY MEANING, ADDITIONAL DIRECTIONAL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SIGNS. WE HAVE THE BUILDING IDS. ONCE WE DO DIRECT YOU TO YOUR DESTINATIONS, WE WILL HAVE THE BUILDING ID SIGNS. THESE WILL BE LOCATED IN FRONT OF CITY HALL OR ANY OTHER THE HIGHER DESTINATIONS. WE ALSO HAVE A SMALLER VERSION OF IT FOR THE NOT AS LARGE FACILITIES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND. AND THEN STREET SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. THESE ARE AGAIN FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES OF THE THREE INCH CAP HEIGHT, WITH THE SECONDARY TWO INCH. AND THESE ARE THE INTERNAL ILLUMINATED ONES THAT WOULD GO ON THE MAST ARMS AS YOU'RE ENTERING IN THE CITY WITH THE MAJOR ROADS. WE ALSO HAVE KIOSK ONE WITH THE TOUCH SCREEN AND ONE WITH THE STATIC MAP THROUGH OUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO HELP YOU NAVIGATE YOUR WAY AROUND THE CITY. AND THEN WE DON'T NEED TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO GUIDELINES. I WAS TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE SIGNS AS FAST AS I COULD, AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON DESIGN OR MATERIALS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. QUESTIONS? I'LL GO TO. 
          COUNCILMAN FREELY. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR BREVITY. DID IT REALLY WELL, IT THESE INITIAL SIGNS THAT ARE ILLUMINATED. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE WE PLANNING FOR? WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOCATION PLAN. AND. CAN YOU MICROPHONE SPEAKER. 
          SORRY, WE HAVE A LOCATION PLAN MAP THAT WILL IDENTIFY WHERE EACH ONE OF THESE GO. RIGHT? AS OF RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THERE ARE FOUR OF THESE LARGE ONES, AND THERE ARE SIX OF THE MEDIUM ONES. AND THEY LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE SO. I'M GOING TO GET THESE BIKES FIXED. THEY LOOK A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF HIGH TECH. SO. IS IT ARE THESE THINGS THAT COULD BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO VANDALISM, GRAFFITI SMASHING WITH A BRICK. WHEN WE TYPICALLY SPECIFY THE MATERIALS WE DO DEFEATING RESISTANT CLEAR COATING ON THEM. BUT I, I MEAN YEAH SOMEBODY CAN BLOW IT UP IF THEY WANT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY. WE'LL DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR SECURING THEM INTO THE GROUND. AND ANY TYPE OF PROTECTIVE COATING ON THESE SIGNS THEMSELVES. YEAH. THEY'LL COME WITH ENGINEERED STAFF DRAWINGS, BOTH THE ENGINEERED AND FOR ELECTRICAL. SO IN TERMS OF MANUFACTURING INSTALLATION, YOU'LL BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. 
          WELL, CAN SOMEBODY VANDALIZE THEM? ANYTHING CAN TRULY BE VANDALIZED IF YOU WANT TO, BUT BY USING THE GRAFFITI COATING ON IT, IT GIVES YOU TIME TO CLEAN THEM IF IT'S HANDLED IN A TIMELY FASHION. OKAY. AND SINCE THEY ARE ELECTRICAL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN. OR DO THEY REQUIRE SOME SORT OF CONTRACTOR? YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEM THEMSELVES. THE PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE ABLE TO. THEY CAN PROGRAM THEM. THEY'LL HAVE THEY TYPICALLY COME WITH REMOTES THAT IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THE COLOR ONE DAY FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND MAKE THE SIGNS PINK. OKAY. YEAH. AN INSTRUCTION WILL COME FROM THE MANUFACTURER ON HOW TO DO THAT. 
          SO WHOEVER IS THE KEEPER OF THE SIGNS WILL THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO INPUT THAT INFORMATION IN. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS OKAY. 
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AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST A COUPLE OF JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IS I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR SECOND TIME COMING BACK BEFORE US. AND WE REALLY DO NEED THESE SIGNS, ESPECIALLY THE GATEWAY INTO THE CITY THAT THAT THOSE ARE JUST MY MAJOR CONCERNS, THE GATEWAY RIGHT HERE AT THE TOP OF THE CITY. 
          AND THEN ONCE YOU LEAVE COLLEGE PARK AND YOU'RE CROSSING OVER INTO EASTPOINT, THE INFORMATION IDENTIFICATION KIOSK, HAVE WE DECIDED ON WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO GO IN EASTPOINT? BECAUSE TWO COUNCIL MEMBER FRALEY'S POINT, SHOULDN'T THAT BE LOCATED SOMEWHERE DOWNTOWN NEAR A CITY HALL? AND THEN WHERE IS THE OTHER KIOSK GOING TO GO IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA? ALSO WANTED MORE INFORMATION ON THE ENTRANCES. YOU HAVE THE TOP FOUR ENTRANCES, LIKE WHERE ARE THOSE? I KNOW THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? AND THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE IS WHERE? THE COLLEGE PARK WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT COLLEGE FOR COLLEGE PARK IS ONE OF THEM. HE CAN GO BACK TO THE LOCATION PLANS AND SHOW YOU IT'S BEEN SOME PERIOD OF TIME, DOCTOR ROGERS, SINCE WE'VE WE'VE WALKED THROUGH IT, BUT WE SAT WITH THE COMMITTEE AND WENT THROUGH ON LOCATIONS. OKAY. DID A PREDETERMINED BASIS. THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER TOO, IS THE FINAL LOCATION REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INKED TODAY. THERE'S STILL THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST IT ONCE WE GO AND FINALIZE IT WITH YOUR MANUFACTURER. SO YOU KNOW, IT DEALS WITH UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, IT DEALS WITH RIGHT OF WAY. THERE'S LOTS OF OF PIECES TO THE PUZZLE THAT CAN BE INVOLVED IN THAT FINAL DECISION. ALRIGHT. AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE PRESENTATION OR IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED FOR. CAMP CREEK, THAT CAMP CREEK AREA LEADS INTO EASTPOINT. CAN YOU JUST SPEAK MORE TO THAT ONCE YOU EXIT FROM ANY FROM EAST OR WEST, YOU CAN TAKE WASHINGTON ROAD INTO EASTPOINT. 
          THERE'S ALSO THE WASHINGTON ROAD EXIT. SO WE GOT THE CAMP CREEK EXIT AND ALSO WASHINGTON ROAD. THANK YOU. SO YES, IT'S HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT WE NAILED DOWN EVERY ENTRY POINT INTO THE CITY, EVEN DOWN TO THE SMALLEST LITTLE SIDE RESIDENTIAL STREET. SO WE HAVE SIGN TYPES FOR EVERY ENTRY POINT, ESPECIALLY THE MAJOR CORRIDORS. IT DIDN'T GO OVER EXACTLY EVERY LOCATION, BUT WE HAVE SIGNS FOR CAMP CREEK, FOR INSTANCE, IN EVERY MAJOR ENTRY POINT TO THE CITY. 
          SO WE HAVE ALL THOSE COVERED. AND I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THIS, BUT THE CAMP CREEK PARKWAY, TO A CERTAIN POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE ENTERING COLLEGE PARK. IS THAT BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE ON CAMP CREEK PARKWAY? A CERTAIN POINT, ONCE YOU PASS THE PARK ON CAMP CREEK, IT THEN TURNS INTO COLLEGE PARK. AND THEY HAVE A SIGN. YES. SO HAS THAT BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT? I DIDN'T SEE IT HERE. I WAS JUST ASKING. THANK YOU. ALL. YOU. SO. YEAH, THEY HAVE IT ON THE ON THE MAP. WE HAVE AN ENTRY POINT SIGN AT THAT LOCATION. SO YEAH, HE JUST WENT OVER THE HEIGHTS MAINLY, BUT DIDN'T GO OVER EVERY SINGLE LOCATION. SO WE DO HAVE THEM MAPPED OUT FOR EACH SIGN TYPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, COUNCILMAN ATKINS, I THINK THE PEOPLE WERE IN BEFORE ME. SO I'LL YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE IN BEFORE COUNCILWOMAN JENNINGS. THANK YOU. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. MR. COSTA, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT THE INTENTION IS TO HAVE THESE INSTALLED BEFORE THE WORLD CUP ACTIVITIES? THAT'S THE INTENTION WE ARE. 
          THAT CLOCK'S RUNNING. WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH CATALAN COMPANY TRYING TO EXPEDITE. TYPICALLY THESE THINGS TAKE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS TO BUILD AND INSTALL. IF YOU STARTING TO WORK BACKWARDS FROM A JUNE 15TH GAME ONE AND TRYING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF SECURITY WINDOW. SO LET'S SAY MAY 15TH, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE PUSHING TIMELINES. SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET THIS ON THE STREET, AS EXPLAINED TO THE COMMITTEE TO, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY WHEN THIS THING IS AWARDED OUT TO TRY TO ASK FOR SOME LEAD ITEMS. SO IF WE ADDRESS, AS DOCTOR ROGERS WAS ASKING ABOUT ENTRYWAY SIGNAGE, THOSE TAKING A PRIORITY, THOSE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE INSTALLED BY A MANUFACTURER UPFRONT. SOME OTHER SIGNAGE CAN TRAIL ALONG. 
          IT MIGHT FOLLOW AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD CUP. OKAY. AND THIS IS FOR YOU, MR. SPINNEY. IT'S AN ASPIRATIONAL QUESTION. I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR WEST TAYLOR MOCK UP THE EXAMPLE, AND SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN ICON OR A LOGO THAT WILL BE THE CONNECTOR. YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. THAT WILL SIGNIFY OUTSIDE OF THE, THE, THE WORDS. 
          BUT IN THE LETTERING IT'LL BE A LOGO. IS THERE A WAY THERE WAS SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE DIMENSIONS AND HOW THEY ARE ADJUSTED. I AM NOT A SIGN EXPERT, BUT MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IN THE FUTURE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MODIFY OR ADD SOMETHING. SHOULD WE END UP WITH A CITY LOGO THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THE STREET SIGNS? WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT THE 
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STREET SIGNS AND ALL THESE SIGNS? THEY ARE ADJUSTABLE. YOU CAN ADD, YOU CAN SUBTRACT, YOU COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH THESE SIGNS. IT'S WE'RE STILL THEY'RE NOT BEING THEY'RE NOT FABRICATED. BUT THE ONLY PROBLEM IS WITH LOGOS LOGOS CHANGE. SO IF YOU PERMANENTLY PUT A LOGO ON A SIGN, THEN NOW YOU'RE STUCK WITH THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL WAS IN BEFORE ME. I CAN GO, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ONE, HAVE WE CONSIDERED MAYBE EVEN EXIT SIGNS LIKE, THANK YOU FOR VISITING THE CITY JUST BECAUSE WE DO LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S FOUR CITIES KIND OF AROUND. SO HAVE WE CONSIDERED EXIT SIGNS IN THE DESIGN? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED UPFRONT AS AN OPTION THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          THE COMMITTEE DID NOT GO FORWARD WITH IT ON THE ENTRY SIGNS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON THE BACK OF SOME OF THE WAYFINDING SIGNS. IT DOES SAY THE CITY OF EAST POINT. SO THE BACKSIDE OF THE SIGN WILL HAVE SOME MESSAGING. OKAY. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED GETTING STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT IS THERE AN ANTICIPATED START AND FINISH DATE? THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION TO ANSWER BECAUSE I NEED TO SEE THAT YOU CAN GET A BID OUT. AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EASTPOINTE'S BIDDING TIME FRAME. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY SAID GREEN LIGHT GO TONIGHT, THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON A MAP TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND SHOW YOU WHAT THE EXPECTED TIME IS. IF YOU GO BACK AND SAY WITH RESPECT TO TIME FRAME, IF YOU PUT IT INTO A CONTRACT AND. 
          CASES TO BE DONE AS WELL. SO AGAIN, IT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, WHICH IS AROUND SUMMER THIS YEAR, THE FIRST YEAR IN JUNE 15TH. AND SO TYPICALLY WHEN WE START TO DESIGN, WE WANT TO TRY TO PUSH MANUFACTURERS FORWARD. 
          THEY HAVE REALLY GOT TO HAVE DEADLINES, YOU KNOW, SO WE BUILD NFL STADIUMS. WE DO MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STADIUMS AND CONCERT HALLS. SO WE HAVE OUR FIRST GAME ON APRIL 4TH AND THE SIGNAGE HAS TO BE DONE. SO WE ANTICIPATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. AND JUST SO THAT WE KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY LIKE KNOWN BLOCKERS THAT WOULD DELAY THE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY THAT ARE UNDER THE CITY'S CONTROL, MAY BE HELPFUL JUST TO GET A LIST OF THOSE SO THAT WE COULD. 
          ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION IS, ONCE WE START, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT ANY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEARBY, BUT IS THERE. AND THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER. IS THERE A COMMUNICATION PLAN THAT WILL GO OUT TO RESIDENTS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF ANY WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE PERFORMED IN THE AREA? I'M NOT AWARE OF A PLAN AT THIS MOMENT, BUT THAT CERTAINLY WE CAN DEVISE A PLAN AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ENHANCING THE TIMELINE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE EMBARKING ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. MANUFACTURERS, THE SAFETY PLAN AS WELL. SO THERE'S BLOCK STREETS WHERE THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THAT OR ASKING POLICE TO BE AVAILABLE TO HELP. SO ABSOLUTELY OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER, YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE'S SOME LANDMARKS THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO GET SIGNS TO POINT PEOPLE TO GO THERE. DO WE KNOW WHICH LANDMARKS THOSE ARE? SO WE'VE WALKED THROUGH AGAIN WITH OUR COMMITTEE. PROBABLY EVERY DESTINATION FROM THERE. SO WE CREATED SORT OF A PAPA BEAR, MAMA BEAR, BABY BEAR IN TERMS OF NORMAL TRAFFIC TO THOSE VARIOUS DESTINATIONS. 
          WAYFINDING SIGNS CAN'T COUNT EVERY MESSAGE. OTHERWISE, YOU HAVE A LARGE 50 MESSAGES ON WHAT WE WOULD DO. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY. ONE OF THE PRIORITIES FOR SOMEBODY IS A FIRST TIME. VISITOR. WOULD THEY WANT TO SEE. SO FOR INSTANCE CITY HALL WILL BE LISTED ON SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOP THEIR OWN RESOURCES. BUT THEY'LL BE BACK OFF. THE BUILDING WOULD BE VERY SOME OF THE PARKS ARE LISTED ON THEIR A VARIETY OF. LOCATIONS IN THE CITY. SO IT'S NOT DECREASES. OKAY. AND WHAT WAS WHAT MADE YOUR DECISION TO TO YOU KNOW, NOT PRIORITIZE THE VELODROME. CONVERSATION WITHIN OUR GROUP. IT IS ON THE SITE THE VELODROME, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE COMING IN FROM THE FAR SIDE OF TOWN TO THE CITY OF VELODROME ON EVERY SIDE FROM THERE TO JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE RESTRICTED BY THE MANUAL UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES COMPANY MESSAGE. IT'S NOT A RESTRICTION OF THAT FIELD MESSAGE WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY. 
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AND YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE A BREADCRUMB TRAIL FROM POINT A TO POINT B. WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THAT FIRST TIME OR INFREQUENT VISIT UNNECESSARILY. CITY RESIDENTS AT ALL THE WAYS THAT WENT INTO MAKING IT. SOMEBODY WHO'S VISITED THE CITY SO THAT RIGHT FROM ENTRY POINT TO WHATEVER THE SOLUTION IS, SOME DESTINATIONS MAY MESSAGE MORE PROXIMITY BASED ON OTHERS. EXCUSE ME SIR. PARDON ME, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, I CAN'T, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T YELL LOUD ENOUGH. SO WE TRY TO PRIORITIZE BASED UPON THOSE DESTINATIONS THAT HAVE A HIGHER PRIORITY. A LOWER PRIORITY, YOU'LL SEE SHOWING UP ON ON LESS SIGNS. AND AGAIN, THE MAGIC OF THIS IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY SIGNS ARE GOING IN WHERE THOSE SIGNS ARE. WE DON'T WANT TO COME IN AND PUT 10,000 SIGNS UP. 
          THAT JUST BECOMES SIGN POLLUTION. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GREATLY RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF AND PUT THEM IN KEY POINTS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE PROPER DECISIONS. OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED FROM US? IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT YOU NEED A VOTE TO PUT TO APPROVE THE CON OR WHAT? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED FROM US? SO YES, THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE SOME ACTION OR VOTE ON APPROVAL OF THE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE PUT OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION SOLICITATION. SO I GUESS WE WOULD LIKE APPROVAL FROM MAYOR COUNCIL ON PROCEEDING WITH CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. AND YOU NEED THAT TONIGHT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK JUST A TIME CHECK NOW WE I THINK WE EXCEEDED 15 MINUTES. BUT COUNCIL COUNCILMAN ATKINS, YOU CAN WELL GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL, DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I SAW YOUR MIC ON. OH, OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S OUR ASK OF US IS TO TAKE ACTION. MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY AROUND THE KIOSK. AND DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT? I THINK, MR. SWEENEY, YOU WERE PRESENTING THE KIOSK. THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME THAT ARE DYNAMIC AND SOME THAT ARE STAGNANT. IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD HAVE UPDATEABLE MAPS THAT. CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? THEY WOULD HAVE A UPDATEABLE MAPS WITH THE PROTECTIVE SCREEN ON IT THAT YOU WOULD REMOVE THE RETAINER, TAKE THEM OUT AND THINGS UPDATED OR THINGS ARE NEW BUILDINGS ARE ERECTED AND YOU'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THOSE ONES. OKAY. SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS, DO THESE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ARE THERE ANY OTHER FUNCTIONALITY? AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS MY FIRST SORT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THESE TYPES OF KIOSKS ACTUALLY WERE NEW YORK LINK NYC. SO THEY PROVIDE THEIR DYNAMIC. THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR THE CITIZENS TRYING TO GET AROUND AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADVERTISING BECAUSE THEY ARE WI-FI. AND SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN PEOPLE NEED ACCESS TO WI-FI, AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY PAYS FOR THE WI-FI. SO MY QUESTION IS, IF THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THESE, DO THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO ADD THAT OR WAS THAT NOT CONSIDERED AT ALL? THAT'S WHY WE HAD THE TWO OPTIONS WHERE IF YOU DID WANT ONE, THAT WOULD HAVE THE DIGITAL DISPLAYS ON THEM, THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF HOUSING EITHER ONE OF THEM. SO YOU JUST REMOVE THE RETAINER AND JUST REPLACE IT WITH A SCREEN THAT HAS THE WI-FI CAPABILITIES. OKAY. AND THERE COULD BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADVERTISING, WHICH WOULD BE HOW WE PAY FOR IT. THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO. OKAY. SO ONCE WE GET THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ACTUAL KIOSK AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THEN WE CAN CUSTOMIZE THAT AS WE NEED TO MOVING FORWARD. BUT EVERYTHING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT FROM WHERE YOU'RE SITTING AND UPDATE IT THREE MILES DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF IT'S NO MORE QUESTION, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE ASK FOR THE THEY WANT TO APPROVE IT. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL A MOTION. YES. THE ASK IS FOR APPROVAL OF DESIGN AND TO PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE GATEWAY AND WAYFINDING PROJECT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION DISCUSSION? I MEAN, FOR APPROVAL? NO, THIS IS A MOTION. YEAH. DISCUSSION. MOTION DISCUSSION. YES, YES. MOTION TO GO INTO DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE APPROVED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. WE'LL GO INTO DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. SORRY FOR WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. YES, MR. HALL, I KNOW THAT THE ASK IS FOR US TO TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING. AND SO IF WE DO HAVE A MOTION, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE COST OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SO THAT THE MOTION CAN INCLUDE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED? BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS COSTING. SO AT THE CURRENT TIME, WE WILL HAVE AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE TOTAL COST OF EVERYTHING, BECAUSE WE'RE WE HAVE AN ANNUAL YEAR 
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BUDGET AMOUNT NOW, BUT THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST WON'T BEGIN UNTIL WE PUT OUT THE BID. 
          SO WE'RE PUTTING THIS OUT AS A MULTI-YEAR SOLICITATION IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO THEN IDENTIFY FUNDING AS WE GO ALONG TO FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO THERE'S NOT AN UPFRONT COST INITIALLY IDENTIFIED. IT'S JUST NOW JUST APPROVAL TO GO ACQUIRE THE COST. SO ONCE WE PUT THE BIDS OUT, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO BE. IT'S GOING TO COST THE FUND EVERYTHING. SO THE MOTION IS JUST A BLANKET MOTION. SO WHATEVER THE COST MAY BE IS WHAT THE COST MAY BE. AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE. YES. MR. DIRECTOR, COUNCILMEMBER, I CANCELED THE INITIAL COST WAS AROUND $1.2 MILLION. THIS WAS TO BE SPREAD OVER A COUPLE YEARS. SO RIGHT NOW WITH THAT COST WAS DESIGNED A YEAR AGO, ALMOST SIX MONTHS. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.2 MILLION WAS THE COST THAT WE WERE LOOKING INITIALLY. AND THAT WILL BE GOING OVER A COUPLE BUDGET YEARS. OKAY. AND THAT IS A DESIGN THAT IS INSTALLATION. THAT'S CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S CONSTRUCTION. AND WHAT A TO Z EVERYTHING. THAT'S EVERYTHING OKAY OKAY. TO. SO A MOTION THAT WOULD INCLUDE A NOT TO EXCEED OF 1.2. IS THAT TOO RESTRICTIVE. OR IT NEEDS TO GO UP BECAUSE THIS WAS AN AMOUNT THAT YOU RECEIVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. YEAH. SO THE WAY THE QUESTION WAS FRAMED TO US WAS, UNTIL THE BIDS COME IN, NOBODY'S REALLY GOING TO KNOW THE FINAL PRICE. 
          WE DID SOME PRICING ORIGINALLY UP FRONT PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO TO LOOK AT THE PRICING, AND WE WERE ASKED TO CONSTRUCT A BID PACKAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THIS TO BE SPLIT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. SO THERE WAS AN INITIAL AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED BY THE CITY, AND WE WOULD LITERALLY BITE OFF WHAT WE COULD IN PHASE ONE. AND THEN PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE WOULD FOLLOW. AND PHASE FOUR HOW MANY PHASES YOU WANT IN FOLLOWING YEARS, POTENTIAL ESTIMATED COST THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO UPGRADE MOVING FORWARD. THAT MIGHT 18% YEAR TARIFFS, AVAILABILITY OF STEEL TIME FRAME. WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THIS THING ON AN EXPEDITED BASIS. SO WE GOT TO LOOK BACK AND SEE WHAT THE MANUFACTURERS ARE GOING TO SAY WHEN THEY FEEL THAT THERE'S BEING SQUEEZED A LITTLE BIT. SO I'M HESITANT TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO COME BACK TO ME AND GO, THAT NUMBER DIDN'T MATCH UP, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU, WE'RE SITTING ON YOUR SIDE OF THIS. I DON'T SELL PRODUCT, I DESIGN AND PLANET. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH WE'LL WORK WITH MANUFACTURERS, WE'VE PRE-VETTED, WE'LL WORK WITH MANUFACTURERS ON AVAILABLE LINES TO TRY TO ASSIST YOU IN KEEPING THIS. AND OUR DOCUMENTS THAT YOU SEE HERE. DONE ARCHITECTURALLY, THIS IS NOT DONE GRAPHIC DESIGN. IT'S NOT TWO DIMENSIONAL. EVERYTHING'S THREE DIMENSIONAL. THAT BECOMES IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE START TO BID ON THIS, YOU'RE GETTING APPLES TO APPLES. WE DON'T WANT SIGN MANUFACTURERS TO WALK IN HERE AND GO, WE'LL TRY TO SOLVE THIS FOR YOU, BECAUSE THEN YOU WON'T GET WHAT IT IS THAT WE DESIGNED. RIGHT NOW, I UNDERSTAND JUST AS A FIDUCIARY FOR THE CITY. I MEAN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO TAKE ACTION. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST. AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THIS HAS TO COME BACK BECAUSE ABOVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WE'VE GOT TO APPROVE THAT. BUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH COST AND BUDGET AND ALL OF THAT. SO THAT'S I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE TAKING ACTION, IF WE HAD AN IDEA. BUT I KNOW THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET LOCKED DOWN. AND IT'S ABOVE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE LOOKING LIKE FOR SOME TYPE OF FOR THE KNOWING THAT, EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. SO KNOWING THAT WE HAD THAT ONE INITIAL COST AT 1.2 MILLION, WE WOULD PUT IT DOWN AND MAYBE NOT TO EXCEED 2 MILLION. OKAY. AND IT'LL BE PRICED AGAIN FOR YOU BEFORE THIS THING. I MEAN, WE'RE PART OF THIS IS TRYING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE YOU PRICING ALL THE WAY THROUGH. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A TIMPANI ROLL WHERE WE JUST HERE'S THE NUMBER, BUT SO THAT WE'RE BETTER ABLE TO DO PLANNING. AND THAT HELPS TOO IN TERMS OF THE LONG TERM. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO SPREAD THIS OUT OVER THREE BUDGET YEARS, HOW CAN WE BEST PLAN IT OUT SO THAT IT FUNCTIONS? YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE, SO WE DON'T WANT TO START PUTTING SIGNS IN THAT TAKE YOU TO DESTINATIONS THAT STOP, AND THEN THE SYSTEM DOESN'T FUNCTION AND DOESN'T BECOME USEFUL. SO WHATEVER PIECES WE'RE BUYING OFF, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FUNCTION TO CREATE A TRUE WAYFINDING SYSTEM. THANK YOU COUNCIL, CAN I JUMP IN REAL QUICK? I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING'S NEXT. IF IT'S IF IT'S RELATED TO QUESTION, I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR RESPONSE, MR. CITY MANAGER. YES. SO TYPICALLY THERE'S A ENGINEERS ESTIMATE. 
          THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT NUMBER WHEN THOSE BIDS GO OUT, THE FOLKS RESPONDING TO THOSE BIDS KIND OF USE THAT AS A GUIDELINE. BUT AS ALSO WAS MENTIONED, THERE'S A NUMBER OF MARKETING FACTORS THAT COULD GO INTO THAT BID AT THAT TIME THAT COULD CHANGE THAT NUMBER. SO WHAT WE COULD DO IF THE COUNCIL IS, IS CONCERNED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 
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REMAIN DISCIPLINED ON WHAT WE APPROVE, ULTIMATELY, WE CAN THEN ONCE WE GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK AND WE PICK THE, THE THE MOST RESPONSIBLE, LOWEST BID, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK BEFORE YOU. JUST SO IF IT IS OVER, OUR ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COUNT FORWARD AND REAFFIRM IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. AND AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH WHAT DIRECTOR REES WAS STATING NOT TO EXCEED THE 2 MILLION. UNDERSTANDING ALL THAT YOU JUST PRESENTED TO US. CERTAINLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT TOO MUCH, YOU DO WANT TO TRY AND DRIVE DOWN AND GET A REASONABLE RESPONSE. SO IF YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ENDLESS RESOURCES, THEN YOU'LL BE SURE TO SEE SOME VERY LARGE TYPICALLY YOU'LL SEE SOME VERY LARGE RESPONSES. SO IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S LIMITED RESOURCES, THEY TEND TO SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK THAT'S FAIR TO SAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO FIRST STATE THAT THE MAYOR PROVIDED US A TABLE WITH, EXCUSE ME, EACH OF THE SIGN NUMBERS, THAT THEY'RE THE COUNTS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, AND THE COST PER UNIT ITEM THAT'S IN THEIR DOCUMENTS ON PAGE 44. I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SAYING THAT THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE, BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE SCOPED THIS OUT AND GIVEN US SOME RANGE OF PRICING? YES, MA'AM. A COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PRICING ENGAGEMENT, BUT EVERY TIME WE GO THROUGH THE PRICING ENGAGEMENT, SOMETHING CHANGES. WE GET THE TARIFFS THAT COME IN AND HIT STEEL. WHATEVER ISSUES ARISE ON A WEEK TO WEEK BASIS OBVIOUSLY CAN HAVE AN IMPACT. 
          SO ONCE WE GET APPROVAL FROM YOU BEFORE A DOLLAR IS SPENT, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK OUT AND PRICE IT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY YEARS WE MIGHT WANT TO SPREAD THIS OVER, WE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER FORMULA IN TERMS OF DO WE WANT DIRECTIONALS NOW? DO WE WANT STREET SIGNS NOW? WHEN DO WE WANT THAT? OKAY. AND THIS NEXT QUESTION IS TO MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. THE WAY THIS WAS ADVERTISED WAS THAT THIS WAS A PRESENTATION, NOT THAT WE WERE TAKING ACTION. SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT IS ALLOWABLE AND WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO DO TO STAY WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE CONFINES OF OUR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES. SO GOOD EVENING. THERE ARE WORK SESSION POLICY RULES THAT PROVIDE THAT ITEMS PLACED ON A CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS CAN BE PLACED ON A CONSENT AGENDA DURING WORK SESSION. ITEMS. EVEN PRESENTATIONS CAN GO TO A VOTE IF IT'S TIME SENSITIVE. HERE, THE TIME SENSITIVITY HAS BEEN ARTICULATED, BUT THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, THAT IT WAS TIME SENSITIVE. AND THERE IS A RULE OR A POLICY PROVISION IN YOUR WORK SESSION POLICY, ALBEIT AN OLD POLICY. BUT I THINK IT'S WHAT WE IT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT THAT SAYS THAT TIME SENSITIVE ISSUES THAT REQUIRE A VOTE OF COUNCIL WILL NOT APPLY TO THE CONSTRAINTS ABOVE, WHICH MEANS IT HAS TO GO TO WORK SESSION, THEN A REGULAR MEETING. 
          IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE NATURE OF THE TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE ITEM, AS IT IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA. UNFORTUNATELY FOR THIS ONE, IT WASN'T. IT WASN'T LISTED AS A TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE. AND SO IF WE ARE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THIS WORK SESSION PROVISION, YOU WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON IT ON MONDAY. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, GIVEN THAT THE COUNCIL POSSESSES THE POWER TO SUSPEND RULES, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO SUSPEND FOR THIS ITEM THAT PROVISION, GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN SHARED ABOUT THE TIME SENSITIVE NATURE? I THINK MR. KOSTIC JUST SAID THAT THERE'S A FOUR MONTH LAG TIME ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE AGGRESSIVELY TO PREPARE FOR THE WORLD CUP. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO MOVE THAT WE SUSPEND THAT PROVISION AROUND IT BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ITEM FIVE OF THE WORK SESSION POLICY? IF IT WERE TO PASS AMONGST MY COLLEAGUES, COULD WE TAKE ACTION ON APPROVING THE DESIGN TONIGHT? GIVE ME ONE SECOND, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A RULE ABOUT HOW TO SUSPEND RULES. OKAY. THAT'S RULE TWO OF YOUR COUNCIL RULES, WHICH PROVIDES THAT ANY RULE NOT PROVIDED FOR BY CITY CHARTER OR CITY ORDINANCE, WHICH THIS ISN'T OTHER THAN CHAPTER TWO, MAY BE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED BY A VOTE OF TWO THIRDS OF ALL THE MEMBERS DURING A SINGLE MEETING AND SHALL NOT BE REPEALED, ALTERED, OR AMENDED UNLESS BY CONCURRENCE OF TWO THIRDS. AND SO, IF THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL IS TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR AN EXCEPTION FOR THE TIME SENSITIVITY, THEN YOU WOULD NEED OR THE MAYOR WOULD NEED THAT THAT MOTION SECOND, TO PASS BY TWO THIRDS OF A VOTE. WITH THAT, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE SUSPEND THE WORK SESSION POLICY ITEM NUMBER FIVE THAT SAYS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LISTED ON THE 
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AGENDA AS A TIME SENSITIVE ITEM, SO THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER TAKING ACTION THIS EVENING. 
          SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE NEED TO I'M SORRY. DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THE AYES HAVE IT. AND DISCUSSION. YES. NOW THE NEXT ITEM IS TO CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN AS PRESENTED BY K A. I HAD A QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR. 
          YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE RFP. IF WE GET THIS BACK AND JUST SAY PRICING IS JUST WELL BEYOND WHAT WE THINK, ARE WE LIKE COMMITTED TO THIS RFP, CAN WE MAKE CHANGES AND KIND OF REDUCE THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET WHATEVER BUDGETARY REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO DO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL TIME? TIME? I'M A TIMELINE OF WHAT I KNOW. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING RIGHT NOW. SO WITH THE DESIGN ELEMENT. SO WE HAVE APPROVED THE INSTALLATION. DO WE HAVE AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. THE APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN ELEMENT AT THIS POINT IS THAT AM I ACCURATE IN THAT MOTION. SO THE ASK IS TO APPROVE THE DESIGN AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. THEY HAVE TO PUT OUT A SOLICITATION OF ADVERTISEMENT I TOOK TO ACTUALLY GET BIDDERS TO CONSTRUCT THE CONSTRUCT DESIGN. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF DESIGN AND APPROVAL, ASK FOR PERMISSION TO PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN ELEMENT? MADAM MAYOR? YES, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE DESIGN AND THE ABILITY TO PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION FOR THE WAYFINDING SIGNS AS PRESENTED BY A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DISCUSSION. 
          DISCUSSION? YES. GO AHEAD. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION. AND IN THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, I WOULD LIKE A TIMELINE. ONCE WE HAVE THE RFP SENT OUT, THEN COUNCIL IS IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED WITH A TIMELINE ON WHEN CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN. THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S ENTRYWAY EXIT WAY, WHERE THESE SIGNS GOING TO GO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT A PART OF YOUR MOTION TO ADD A TIMELINE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS I ACCEPT YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND I WILL ALSO, WHAT I FAIL TO SAY IS FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2 MILLION. AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, DID YOU SECOND, DOES YOUR SECOND STILL STAND? IT STILL STANDS. OKAY. 
          OKAY, OKAY. CAN YOU GET A RECAP OF WHAT? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. SO THE MOTION WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND THE ADDITION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS APPEARS TO BE THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THE DESIGN AS PRESENTED. GO AHEAD. CONSTRUCTION? YES. AND CONSTRUCTION. CORRECT. AND THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WILL LOOK LIKE AN RFP. 
          AND THAT RFP TIMELINE WOULD BE PRESENTED BACK TO COUNCIL AND THAT THE CONSTRUCTION SHOULD NOT EXCEED $2 MILLION. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD IS THAT THE CONTRACT FOR WHOEVER THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE ARE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. AND SO WHEN THEY RFP AND THEY GET BACK ALL OF THE BIDS AND WHOEVER THEY ASSESS IS THE MOST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER WILL LIKELY BE PRESENTED TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. IF THE MOST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER IS OVER 2 MILLION, YOU HAVE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT THAT ACCEPT THAT BID, WHICH IS FINE. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT LIMITATION MAY CREATE SOME DELAY. IF THEY HAVE TO GO WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS RESPONSIVE OR RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THEY MEET THE UNDER $2 MILLION THRESHOLD. OKAY. NOTED. AND UNDERSTAND THAT AND WELL TAKEN. SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HOLDING UP A PROCESS, BUT THAT WE'RE BEING PRUDENT IN TERMS OF OUR EVALUATION OF ANY OF THE RFPS FOR THE MOST RESPONSIVE. 
          AND SHOULD THAT COME BACK ABOVE 2 MILLION, THEN I WILL WITHDRAW THAT PORTION OF THE MOTION. IF IT WILL STILL STAND FOR THE SECOND, THE SECOND STILL STANDS. OKAY, OKAY. ALL THOSE APPROVED 
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IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. THE AYES HAVE IT. I NEED A DISCUSSION. SAID IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. ALRIGHTY. WE ARE GOING 
          [II.2. ECG Presentation on Data Centers]
TO MOVE ON TO THE E G PRESENTATION. COUNCIL MEMBER TREMAIN. THANK YOU MITCHELL. 
          THANK YOU. SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA WE RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM IG REGARDING DATA CENTERS. I REQUESTED THIS PRESENTATION AS COUNCIL CONSIDERS POTENTIAL ACTION, INCLUDING A POSSIBLE MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT, AND SEEK A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE CITY STANDS, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM IG WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT. THIS WORK SESSION PRESENTATION IS INTENDED TO INFORM COUNCIL AND SUPPORT THOUGHTFUL, WELL INFORMED FUTURE POLICY AND PLANNING DECISIONS RELATED TO DATA CENTER PROPOSALS WITHIN THE CITY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. WINN, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF ANALYTICAL SERVICES AT IG. THANK YOU, MR. WINN. BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, CAN WE PLEASE START THE TIME WHEN THIS PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING. I'M SORRY. ONE SECOND. WHEN WE GET APPROVAL FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN WINN. THANK YOU FOR SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE TO PRESENT OUR DATA CENTER. AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU. IN THE FIRST FEW SLIDES, I WILL ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE THE BASICS OF DATA CENTER. AND NEXT WANT TO TALK ABOUT RISKS AND REWARDS. AND LASTLY, THE EASTPOINTE CITY SPECIFICS. SO THE BASIC DATA CENTER IS THIS DATA CENTER IS A DEDICATED FACILITY THAT HOUSE THAT HOUSE HIGH DENSITY COMPUTING UNIT THAT'S PROCESSED DATA THAT SAFEGUARD DATA AND DO OTHER SORT OF STUFF. THINKING OF DATA CENTER LIKE A BRAIN OF THE INTERNET. IT IT STORE PROCESSING, DISTRIBUTE DATA. IT HELPS YOU CONNECT VIA ZOOM, VIA TEAMS, COLLABORATE FROM EVERYWHERE, AND ALSO INCLUDE BANKING AND BUSINESS OPERATION. AND WITH AI, DATA CENTER WILL ALLOW YOU TO ASK GOOGLE OR ANY AI SEARCH ENGINE. DO YOU HAVE NATURAL LANGUAGE? QUESTION AND GET NATURAL LANGUAGE ANSWER BACK? DATA CENTER CONSISTS OF COMPUTING INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE. OBVIOUSLY STORAGE SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING POWER UPS, CLIMATE CONTROL, COMMUNICATION NETWORK, PHYSICAL SECURITY AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL. NEXT WE WILL HAVE. I'M SORRY GUYS. I NEED SOME HELP WITH THIS. OKAY. I'M SORRY, IT HAS A COMPUTER ERROR. SORRY. I'M SORRY. WELL, I HAVE A GRAPHICS AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE DATA CENTER IS. I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL APPLICATIONS, ONE OF WHICH IS CRYPTOCURRENCY THAT'S MINING BITCOIN. THE SECOND IS CONVENTIONAL. THAT'S INCLUDING ZOOM TEAMS COLLABORATION TOOLS AND VARIOUS CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT. I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME SIR. COUNCIL, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE PROCEEDING WITHOUT A VISUAL OF THE OF THE PRESENTATION? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I JUST ASKING FOR. YOU. YEAH, I CAN ACTUALLY DISPLAY IT BY MY LAPTOP. THAT'S OKAY. OH, OKAY. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE VISUALS. 
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THERE YOU GO. OH, NO. SO I'M ON THIS PAGE. IT WAS VERY DENSE SLIDE I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT INSIDE THE DATA CENTER THERE'S VARIOUS COMPUTING UNIT THAT'S POWER AND ALL THAT STUFF. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE APPLICATION. THAT'S CRYPTOCURRENCY CONVENTIONAL DATA CENTER. AND THERE'S HIGH PERFORMANCE COMPUTING WHICH INCLUDING AI. AND SO THERE ARE THE TYPICAL APPLICATION OF DATA CENTER. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE TYPE. THEY HAVE ENTERPRISE SERVICE. THEY HAVE COLOCATION AND HYPERSCALE. 
          THOSE ARE THE TERMS THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, CAN READ. AND OVER HERE NEXT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT POWER CONSUMPTION. SO AS YOU HAVE HEARD POWER CONSUMPTION IS ONE BIG REQUIREMENT FOR DATA CENTER. THE SIMPLE WAY I WOULD EXPLAIN THE POWER CONSUMPTION OF DATA CENTER IS LIKE IF YOU HAVE A ONE MEGAWATT CAPACITY, THAT'S MEAN ABOUT 7.8 MILLION KILOWATT HOUR A YEAR, AN AVERAGE HOME USE ABOUT 1000 KILOWATT HOUR. THAT MEANS THAT ONE MEGAWATT DATA CENTER COULD POWER ABOUT 650 HOMES. NOW, IF DATA CENTER WORLD, THEY TYPICALLY START WITH 20 GOING UP TO 30, 50, THEN 100, THEN TALKING ABOUT HYPERSCALE. SO THE NUMBER OF HOME CONSEQUENTIALLY INCREASE AS THE SIZE OF MEGAWATTS OF DATA CENTER INCREASE. AND FROM THE DATA CENTER, YOU CAN TELL THAT MOST OF THE HOW DATA CENTER USER POWER IS BASICALLY THE IT COMPUTING EQUIPMENT AND THEN AIR COOLING AND THEN CLIMATE CONTROL POWER REGULATION. NEXT YOU HAVE DATA CENTER TIERS AND USUALLY TIER ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR WITH THE IN WITH THE HIGHLY RELIABLE TIER FOUR BEING A 99.9999 UP UP UP TIME. BASICALLY, THEY CAN ONLY SHUT DOWN FOR REALLY 26 MINUTES IN THE WHOLE YEAR. BUT AS YOU GET BACK TO TIER ONE, THE DOWNTIME INCREASE. AND THEN YOU TALK ABOUT GENERAL REQUIREMENT. THERE'S LAND REQUIREMENT, THERE'S POWER REQUIREMENT, THERE'S WATER, WHICH VARY DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF COOLING THEY HAVE. AND THEN ALSO THEY REQUIRE PROXIMITY TO FIBER OPTIC BACKBONE THAT PROVIDE FAST INTERNET CONNECTION. SO WHERE IS DATA CENTER? DATA CENTER, AS YOU CAN TELL, ARE PREDOMINANTLY RIGHT NOW THE THE CAPITAL DATA CENTER IS IN VIRGINIA. WE ARE APPROACHING TO BE OR IF NOT ALREADY, THE SECOND CAPITAL OF DATA CENTER. THE A LOT OF FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT ATLANTA TO HOST DATA CENTER BECAUSE THE POWER IS READILY AVAILABLE AVAILABLE AND THAT'S STILL SPACE AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND OUR RELATIVE PROXIMITY TO FAST FIBER NETWORK. 
          NOW, THE POWER REQUIREMENT PREDICTION WORLDWIDE IS QUITE LARGE, RIGHT? IT'S REALLY DEPEND ON WHO YOU ASK. BUT THE, THE THE CONSENSUS IS THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE DRASTIC INCREASE. WE ARE TALKING ROUGHLY BETWEEN 200 TERAWATT HOURS TO 600 TERAWATT HOUR. AND THAT IS BASICALLY ONE TERAWATT HOUR IS EQUAL TO 1,000,000 MEGAWATT HOUR, WHICH IS A HUGE AMOUNT. SO THE AI WILL BE THE ONE WHO DRIVE MOST OF THAT POWER INCREASE. AND POWER IS THE BUSINESS THAT YOU ARE IN. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE EASTPOINT POWER TO SELL POWER TO RESIN AND THE LIKE. SO THIS IS THE HAVE PERTINENCE TO THAT. NOW TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE MEDIA SAID THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING A LOT OF POWER, BUT IF YOU LOOKING AT IT FROM A WORLDWIDE PERSPECTIVE, LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENT INDUSTRY, YOU CAN SEE IN 20 FROM 2024 TO 2030 DATA CENTER, IT JUST MAY BE NOT THAT MUCH, RIGHT. COMPARING TO HEAVY INDUSTRY THAT IS HUGE 1.5 MILLION 1.5. 1500 TERAWATT HOUR. YEAH, IT JUST KIND OF LIKE IN THE KIND OF ONE OF THE SLOWER GROWTH SEGMENT SEGMENT. SO HOW DOES THAT DATA CENTER DEAL WITH POWER SHORTAGE? CURRENTLY? THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT CREATIVELY. SOME OF THEM IS BRINGING CODE GENERATOR, NATURAL GAS GENERATOR ON SITE AS BRIDGING POWER. SO IF UTILITY IS UNABLE TO MEET THAT NEED THEN THEY WILL HAVE GAS GENERATOR TO PRODUCE POWER. THE ONLY ISSUE IS SOME DATA CENTER HAVE REQUIREMENT THAT GAS GENERATOR CAN ONLY SERVE AS BACKUP, NOT THE PRIMARY SOURCE POWER. AND SO POWER IS STILL VERY IMPORTANT. CONVERSATION DATA CENTER HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT CLOSEDOWN NUCLEAR REACTOR FOR EXAMPLE. THEY THEY WANT TO RESTART THREE MILE ISLAND NUCLEAR REACTOR IN THE NORTHEAST BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT POWER. THEY NEED THAT. AND ALSO THEY HAVE IN GEORGIA, GEORGIA POWER HAVE DECLARED, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DELAY SOME THE CLOSING OF THE COAL PLANT BECAUSE IF YOU CLOSE THE WE 
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DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POWER. SO GEORGIA POWER HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT DELAYING THE COAL PLANT. AND THEN THE DATA CENTERS HOPE TO DEVELOP A SMALL NUCLEAR REACTOR, SMALL MODULAR REACTOR, WHICH BASICALLY ARE SMALL GENERATOR THAT CAN BE PLACED ON SITE ON THE DATA CENTER SITE. THERE'S ALSO OTHER METHODOLOGY THAT ARE LOOKING AT LOW OPTIMIZATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY. SO THEY COULD TEMPORARILY SHIFT LOAD FROM ONE REGION TO THE NEXT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, SAY, IN ATLANTA IS HOT, IS IN 98, 100 DEGREE AND AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN SHIFT IT TO OTHER PLACE AND NOT USE THAT POWER, THEY CAN USE THAT POWER BACK TO THE REGULAR CUSTOMER, TO RESIDENTIAL TO USE FOR COOLING. THEY COULD ALSO PARTICIPATE IN ENERGY UTILITY DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS. SO UTILITY WOULD CALL, SAY, HEY, WE NEED YOU TO CURTAIL TO SHIFT YOUR LOAD, DO IT SO THAT THEY WOULD LIKELY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. AND THEN AS IT CONTINUES TO IMPROVEMENT, THE COOLING SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY USE OF THE POWER IN THE DATA CENTER. AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING CONSTANTLY AT THE WAY TO DIFFERENTLY, TO COOL THE SYSTEM, TO COOL MORE EFFICIENTLY. THE COMPUTING UNIT ITSELF IS ALSO EACH YEAR, EACH SIX MONTH, AND THEY COME OUT WITH NEW CHIP. SO YOU CAN SAY THAT THE, THE, THE CHIP ITSELF AND THE COMPUTING UNIT, THE COMPUTER INSIDE THE DATA CENTER IS ALSO BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT. SO AS TIME GOES ON, THE EFFICIENCY WILL IMPROVE. AND THEY'RE COUNTING ON THAT. AND LASTLY, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE US GOVERNMENT TO, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE INCENTIVE TO BUILD NEW GENERATION. THAT'S SOME OF THE WAY THEY DEAL WITH POWER SHORTAGE. ALL RIGHT. SO RISK IN TERMS OF RISK AND REWARD I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT REWARD FIRST. SO MANY OF THE COMMUNITY WHO SELL POWER TO DATA CENTER. 
          THEY HAVE RECEIVED A FINANCIAL WINDFALL. THE FINANCIAL WINDFALL ALL COME FROM INCREASE IN ELECTRIC MARGIN ELECTRIC SALES MARGIN AND AS WELL AS TAX BASE. SO YOU GOT THESE INCREASED FINANCIAL WINDFALL WOULD PROVIDE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT, PROJECT PARKS, EDUCATION, ETC. IT CAN ALSO IMPROVE OR BRIDGE YOUR BUDGET DEFICIT OR IMPROVING THE RATE AFFORDABILITY. SO THAT'S THE IMMEDIATE WINDFALL YOU CAN SEE NOW THAT'S COMMUNITY IMPACT. IS THAT THE DATA CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, GOOGLE TALENT, THEY PROVIDE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, HELPING LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL AND UPCOMING, YOU KNOW, ADULT TO TO TO DO CONSTRUCTION. THEY CAN PROVIDE LOANS AND GRANTS IN TERMS OF JOB CREATION. THE THE THE MOST JOB CREATION I SEE IS REALLY A SHORT TERM CONSTRUCTION FOR DATA CENTER, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO YEARS WINDOW. THE THERE'S A LONG TERM, ALTHOUGH ALBEIT AT THE LOWER NUMBER OF JOB IN TERMS OF HIGH PAY POSITION, INCLUDING IT OPERATION MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE AND SECURITY. NOW ON THE RISK SIDE, AS YOU SELL POWER RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH POWER OBVIOUSLY. SO THERE HAS TO BE WAY TO BUILD NEW POWER PLANT TO SERVE DATA CENTER. THAT'S THE CRITICALITY, BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE GOING TO THAT, THAT SIDE OF THINGS. SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO SERVE DATA CENTER AND IF YOU HAVE TO BUILD POWER PLANT, THEN ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTNER IS WILL HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND MAKE SURE THAT PROVIDE ALL THE LEGAL PROTECTION FOR CITY AND THE CITIZENS, SO THAT THE ANY COST FROM DATA CENTER WILL NOT FALL BACK ON ON EXISTING RATEPAYER. 
          THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL RELIABILITY AND GRID CONSTRAINT. AND I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED SO FAR IS NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION. AND LOCALLY FROM THE MICROSOFT DATA CENTER. 
          AND YOU ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WATER. I CANNOT SPEAK ON THOSE BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE LOCALLY, BUT I'M SURE YOU HAVE HEARD FROM YOUR RESIDENT. SO THE IMPORTANT RISK MANAGEMENT WHEN YOU SERVE A DATA CENTER IS QUITE A LARGE GAP. AND YOU HAVE PARTNER TO HELP YOU GO THROUGH IT. ESSENTIALLY ALL THESE STATEMENTS SAYS PAY ATTENTION TO RISK MANAGEMENT SIDE OF THING. AND SO THAT IS NOT BECOME A BURDEN ON YOUR EXISTING RATEPAYER. SO IN TERMS OF EASTPOINTE SPECIFIC, ALL I HAVE IS CALENDAR YEAR 2024 DATA 2025 JUST COMPLETE. SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET. THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF POWER FOR EASTPOINTE IS NUCLEAR. YOU GUYS ARE SUPPLIED BY 81% NUCLEAR, 10% HYDRO. THE REST IS 4% AND OTHERS 5%. SO ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE LOOKING AT 91% OF YOUR POWER IS CARBON FREE, ZERO EMISSION. AND OF COURSE THAT'S LEAVE 9% FOSSIL IN TERMS OF YOUR LOAD. YOUR LOAD IS ROUGHLY 90 MEGAWATT HOUR IN 2024, WITH AN ANNUAL CONSUMPTION OF 479,000,000 KILOWATT HOUR. ON 
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THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT BROKEN DOWN IN 2024. YOU HAVE ROUGHLY YOU ARE SERVING 1,037% OF YOUR POWER IS GOING TOWARD RESIDENTIAL. THE REST GO TO COMMERCIAL. THE NON DEMAND SMALL POWER, MEDIUM AND LARGE POWER AS WELL AS 15% GO TO DATA CENTER. THAT DATA CENTER IS NO LONGER HERE BY THE WAY, SO I'LL TOUCH ON THAT NEXT. SO TALKING ABOUT EXCESS POWER IN GENERAL, THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HAS EXCESS POWER BECAUSE YOU PRODUCE MORE POWER THAN YOUR CUSTOMER CAN USE. YOU ALL HAVE EXCESS POWER. YOU HAVE A LOT MORE POWER THAN YOU THAN YOUR CUSTOMER CAN USE. AND SO YOUR EXCESS POWER IS CURRENTLY HAVE TWO VALUE TO IT. ONE IS A CAPACITY AND ENERGY. THOSE VALUE COULD BE TRADED TO ANYBODY. YOU CAN SELL IT TO ANYBODY. AND SO THE CITY SELL OFF THE EXCESS POWER TO FOR EXAMPLE, ENERGY AND CAPACITY TO CITY OF ROBERTSDALE ALABAMA. CURRENTLY FOR ABOUT FOUR MEGAWATT. YOU ALSO SELL THE CAPACITY EXCESS POWER TO THE OTHER CITIES VIA OPT. AND THEN ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT OVER THAT YOU CANNOT SELL TO ANYBODY. YOU BASICALLY TRADE IT OFF ON MARKET OR WHATEVER MARKET WILL PAY THE. ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE CHART THAT THE VALUE OF THE THE ENERGY, THE SOLD ON THE MARKET IS ROUGHLY DUE TO FOUR, 3 TO $0.04 PER KILOWATT HOUR. THAT'S TIME IN AROUND 2020 22 OR 2023, WHERE THE PRICE OF POWER DID ELEVATE ALL THE WAY UP TO $0.15, BUT THAT'S RARE. 
          THAT IS BECAUSE OF COAL SNATCH. YOU GOT THOSE NORTHEASTERN AND NORTHWESTERN COLD SNOW ON THE GROUND AND IT GOT REALLY COLD. AND SO YOU WOULD BE SELLING THOSE EXCESS POWER TO ENTITY THAT NEED THE POWER TO, TO HEAT THE HOME. SO THOSE ARE THE RARE OCCASION. BUT THE MAIN POINT IS MOST OF THE TIME YOU'RE SELLING YOUR EXCESS POWER ON THE OPEN MARKET FOR 3 TO $0.04. SO JUST AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT EXCESS POWER REALLY IS ON THE THE BLUE SHADE IS WHAT YOU GENERATE FOR FROM 2014 DECEMBER 2024 THROUGH NOVEMBER 2025. THAT'S YOUR GENERATION. THAT'S THE POWER YOU PRODUCE. THE BLACK LINE IS WHAT YOUR CUSTOMER ACTUALLY USE. SO THE DIFFERENCE YOU CAN SEE THAT IN SOME INSTANCE IN SOME MONTHS, YOUR BLUE AREA SURPASSED THE BLACK LINE. THAT MEANS YOU HAVE EXCESS POWER THAT MEAN YOUR CUSTOMER IS NOT USING AS MUCH AS YOU PRODUCE. 
          SO THEN THE GREEN AREA AT THE BOTTOM IS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SELL TO THE OPEN MARKET FOR 3 TO $0.04. SO DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXCESS POWER? I WAS QUANTIFY MAYBE 12 TO 15 MEGAWATT ON AVERAGE OF EXCESS POWER YOU CAN SELL TO THE OPEN MARKET. NOW WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? THE DATA CENTER YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY EASTPOINTE DOES NOT SERVE A DATA CENTER. THE FORMER CRYPTOCURRENCY DATA CENTER VACATE IN APRIL 2025. THE CITY IS CURRENTLY SERVING A MICROSOFT FOR CONSTRUCTION POWERS. IT'S NOT FULL OPERATION THAT BUILDING THE MICROSOFT DATA CENTER. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS. AND YOU ARE SERVING THE MICROSOFT POWER. BUT REALLY THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF TWO PUBLICS. SO THE MARGIN, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE IS THE MARGIN FROM SALES TO POWER TO DATA CENTER. COULD YOU BE USED TO BRIDGE THE GAP OF YOUR PROJECTED BUDGET DEFICIT IN THE COMING YEAR, WHERE BASED ON THE 2025 PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN MAY THAT MY TEAM TOUCHED ON THAT. IN THE FUTURE YEAR, YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, 700 TO $4 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT. AND SO THE MARGIN FROM DATA CENTER COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED TO OFFSET OR TO BRIDGE THE GAP. IF YOU WERE TO GET A DATA CENTER. SO THAT'S REAL POTENTIAL IMPLICATION HERE, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY IF YOU HAVE THOSE MARGIN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TRIM YOUR EXPENSE OR ADJUST YOUR RATE. SO AS A SAMPLE, WHAT IF YOU HAVE A 50 MEGAWATT DATA CENTER, A 50 MEGAWATT DATA CENTER IS BECOME MORE COMMON THESE DAYS. REMEMBER YOU HAVE 15 MEGAWATT OF EXCESS POWER. SO 50 MEGAWATT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PARTNER WITH OTHER CITY THAT HAVE EXCESS POWER TO SELL WITH THIS CUSTOMER. BUT WHAT ARE THE REVENUE TO THE THE 50 MEGAWATT DATA CENTER OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD, THE REVENUE IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $392 MILLION. OF THAT, THE MARGIN IS ABOUT 100 MILLION. SO THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY 25% UP TO REVENUE WILL BE THE MARGIN. 
          SO $103 MILLION OVER TEN YEAR. IT'S I THINK IS A PRETTY DECENT MARGIN FROM WHAT I CAN SEE. 
          [01:25:03]
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST SELLING THROUGH TO THE MARKET AT 3 OR $0.04. BY SELLING YOUR DATA CENTER, YOU CAN PROBABLY MAKE NINE, TEN, $0.11. SO THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT MY CONCLUSION IS. IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO HAVE A DATA CENTER HERE OR TO SERVE A DATA CENTER, THEN YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER IT. NOW, I KNOW THAT IN IN SOME OTHER CITY, THEY HAVE SERVED POWER TO A DATA CENTER THAT'S NOT LOCAL. FOR EXAMPLE, ANOTHER CITY I KNOW SERVE DATA CENTER IN SOUTH FULTON, EVEN THOUGH THEY ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY IN IN THE NORTHWEST. SO THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THE LAND MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE HERE, BUT IF THERE'S A DATA CENTER ELSEWHERE, YOU COULD PARTNER UP WITH OTHER CITY AND SERVE THAT DATA CENTER, THEREBY BRINGING YOU ADDITIONAL MARGIN FOR POWER. SO FOR THE POWER, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LAST SLIDE YOU BROUGHT UP THE CRYPTOCURRENCY DATA CENTER. YEAH. SO SO THAT'S NO LONGER ACTIVE CORRECT. OR IS IT. SO WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT, BUT IT'S JUST NO LONGER ACTIVE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE. CONCERNED ABOUT 10:00 OKAY. AND YOU GAVE OUT A NUMBER I THINK YOU SAID WE CHARGED THE DATA CENTERS A MARGIN SO THAT WE CAN CHARGE THEM MORE THAN WE WOULD ON THE OPEN MARKET. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT? DO YOU HAVE A CUSTOMER? YOU OBVIOUSLY CANNOT CHARGE THEM AT COST. YOU HAVE TO ADD A MARGIN TO IT. AND SO BY HAVING A CUSTOMER, YOU TYPICALLY CHARGE A MARGIN ON TOP. THEREFORE, IT'S A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CUSTOMER THAN TO SELL THE POWER TO THE OPEN MARKET. OPEN MARKET WILL BE REALLY CHEAP. AND WHAT WE ATTEMPT TO DO IS WHATEVER OPEN MARKET PAY WILL ATTEMPT TO CHARGE SLIGHTLY MORE. SO YOU MAKE MORE MONEY BY SELLING TO YOUR CUSTOMER. OKAY. WHAT IMPLICATIONS? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SPOKE EARLIER. COULD THIS AFFECT OUR UTILITY BILLS OR FOR FOR THE CITIZEN WITH THE. SO SO AS I TOUCHED ON BEFORE, THE THE POTENTIAL OF SELLING POWER TO TO DATA CENTER WILL PROVIDE A FINANCIAL WINDFALL, THE FINANCIAL WINDFALL. YOU ALL CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY. SOME CITY HAVE USED TO FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PARKS, GOVERNMENT BUILDING. SOME OF THEM HAVE USED FOR TO BRIDGE BUDGET DEFICIT, AND SOME OF THEM USED TO LOWER RATES. AGAIN, THAT'S YOUR TO DECIDE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE CURRENTLY I THINK IT'S COMING UP LATER TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT A MORATORIUM ON, I THINK, BUILDING NEW DATA CENTERS. THAT CORRECT. COUNCILMAN ATKINS, IS IT ON NEW DATA CENTERS? OKAY. 
          IT'S ABOUT THE POLICY REGARDING DATA CENTERS. OKAY, OKAY. HOW WOULD A MORATORIUM AFFECT US USING FINDING A CLIENT FOR THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT? WOULD THAT AFFECT US? THAT'S OUTSIDE MY PURVIEW. I DON'T I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN WRITE. I GUESS YOU CAN WRITE A DIFFERENT POLICY TO ACCOMMODATE EXISTING ONE VERSUS FUTURE ONE. THAT'S. I'M NOT EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. NO, I GOT YOU. I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT ABOUT BUILDING NEW DATA CENTERS, BUT I THINK IF WE ALREADY HAVE ONE POINT OF ORDER. MADAM. MADAM MAYOR, RULE EIGHT, PLEASE. MR. SO I JUST READ THE FULL RULE FOR DEBATE. OKAY. NO COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL SPEAK MORE THAN ONCE ON THE SAME QUESTION UNTIL EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER DESIRING TO SPEAK SHALL HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT THE PROPONENT PROPONENT OF THE MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION, OR THE CHAIRMAN CHAIRWOMAN OF THE COMMITTEE WHOSE REPORT IS ON UNDER SPEAKS LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES AT AT LEAST ONE TIME, EXCEPT BY CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL, AND THE CLOSING DEBATE ON ANY QUESTION IS ABOVE, PROVIDED THE SPEAKER SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EXCEPT BY CONSENT OF COUNCIL. MEMBERS MAY ASK TO SPEAK TWO TIMES IN EACH SUBJECT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY ONLY DIRECT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR IF THE INFORMATION IS REQUIRED 
          [01:30:01]
FROM THE CITY STAFF, THE COUNCIL MEMBER MAY REQUEST TO DIRECT TO DIRECT A QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER. ALL QUESTIONS ARE TO BE DIRECTED TO THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY MANAGER MAY THEN DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THE STAFF. EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MAY SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES ON A SUBJECT OF CHOICE DURING THE GENERAL COMMENT PERIOD. SO THE THAT DOES APPLY TO THIS. AND SO WE HAVE A YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE A RULING ON WHETHER RULE EIGHT APPLIES. YES. YES, IT RULING EIGHT DOES APPLY. SO WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL PERSON. YES. I WASN'T AWARE WE'RE BEING TIMED. MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE TIMER MAYBE BE VISIBLE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ENSURE THAT THEY KNOW THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE LEFT FOR SPEAKING. I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE TIMING OR WAS NOT AWARE OF HOW MUCH TIME I'VE BEEN TALKING, BUT OKAY, THAT'S FINE. SO WE HAVE TO GO FOR A SECOND ROUND OR I HAVE TO WAIT FOR A SECOND ROUND, I GUESS. BECAUSE HE'S THE OPENER OR THE INITIATOR OF THIS, HE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AT THE END. YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE EVERYBODY ELSE. I MEAN, AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE. YES. OKAY. LET'S SEE. COUNCILWOMAN HENNING, MR. WYNN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU'VE CERTAINLY SHARED THINGS THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF. SO I APPRECIATE THE COMPREHENSIVENESS OF THIS. THERE'S ALSO A SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE THAT DESCRIBES THE RISK MANAGEMENT. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE RISK MANAGEMENT. NOT THIS SLIDE. BUT THERE'S ONE WHERE YOU HAVE QUOTES ABOUT KIND OF COULD YOU TALK THROUGH I THINK YOU MENTIONED. I HOPE I WROTE THIS DOWN CORRECTLY, BUT YOU WERE DESCRIBING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE LEGAL PROTECTIONS SO THAT THE COST OF ANY OF THESE DATA CENTERS ARE NOT BEING TRANSFERRED BACK TO THE RATEPAYER. AND YOU EMPHASIZED TWICE TO PAY ATTENTION TO RISK MANAGEMENT. 
          COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, PLEASE? YES. AND SO WITH THE POWER SHORTAGE, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU USE YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE. YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE. EACH POINT, AS I MENTIONED, HAS ROUGHLY 15MW OF EXCESS POWER. ANY DATA CENTER THAT COME HERE IS LIKELY TO BE A 50 MEGAWATT OR ABOVE. THAT MEANS YOU EITHER HAVE TO ONE PARTNER UP WITH OTHER COMMUNITY, OR TWO. YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK ME TO BUILD NEW POWER PLANT AT SUCH TIME. THAT NEW POWER PLANT IS REQUIRED. BEFORE YOU GET INTO THAT PROCESS, THERE HAS TO BE RISK MANAGEMENT PRACTICE EMBEDDED INTO ALL OF THESE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, NUMBER ONE, THE DATA CENTER CAN PAY FOR THE LONG TERM. NUMBER TWO, ANY COSTS FROM BUILDING THIS NEW POWER PLANT, PARTICULARLY FOR DATA CENTER, WILL BE PAID FOR BY THE DATA CENTER. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALLUDING TO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF. DUE DILIGENCE THAT HAVE TO GO IN TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE COSTS THAT'S CREATED BY DATA CENTER IS PAID FOR BY THAT DATA CENTER. AND SO THAT'S DIFFERENT LAYER OF RISK MANAGEMENT, BOTH FROM A EAST POINT SIDE, MIA AND IGG SIDE, THAT WE ALL HAVE TO PARTNER UP TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR EXISTING RATEPAYER EXISTING RESIDENT BUSINESS ARE NOT LIABLE FOR THOSE COSTS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. NGUYEN. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS. YES, I'M GOING TO KEEP MY QUESTION GERMANE TO THE SUBJECT. BUT HOWEVER, THERE WAS A POINT OF ORDER CALL. THIS ISN'T A DEBATE, IT'S A WORK SESSION. SO I DO THINK THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT AND I'LL PUT IT ON A WORK SESSION AGENDA, THAT WE HAVE STREAMLINED RULES THAT WE CAN FOLLOW, BECAUSE IN A AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT THIS IS A PRESENTATION. SO IT'S IT'S NOT A DEBATE. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT THE TIMER WASN'T SET. WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER GERMANE MITCHELL STARTED SPEAKING. BUT I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO RUN OUT OF TIME. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY DATA CENTERS ARE IN NORTH FULTON. I'M SORRY, HOW MANY DATA CENTERS ARE IN NORTH FULTON? I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER. I HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          I REMEMBER ATTENDING ONE OF THESE DATA CENTER MEETINGS AND A LOT OF THEIR PROPERTY IN NORTH FULTON IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO NOT HAVE AS MANY DATA CENTERS IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT COULD POSSIBLY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE MENTION THAT I LIVE IN WARD D, WHERE THE MICROSOFT DATA CENTER CURRENTLY IS, AND IT HAS TO BE A MINDSET 
          [01:35:04]
AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HAS QUITE A BIT OF WAREHOUSES, AND WE HAVE THAT MAJOR DATA CENTER THAT IS LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE NEAREST RESIDENT. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED. BUT COUNCIL SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT WAYS AS TO HOUSING THEM AWAY FROM WHERE RESIDENTS CURRENTLY RESIDE, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE ANYONE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE JUST TRAVEL DOWN BEN HILL ROAD AND JUST SEE WHAT IT IS WE ARE UP AGAINST. WE REALLY HAD TO FIGHT AND STRIVE AS A COMMUNITY TO GET COMMUNITY BENEFITS. IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDES, CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDES WHERE YOU HAVE THE GREEN AND THE RED? THE REWARDS, THE REWARDS ARE ENDLESS AND BENEFICIAL, BUT MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL HAS TO KNOW TO ASK FOR THOSE THINGS ON THE FRONT END, FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED AS FAR AS THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE IS CONCERNED AND NOT ON THE BACK END, I'LL YIELD. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SEAN ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND MR. GOODWIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD GO BACK TO THE THE RISK MANAGEMENT SLIDE AND THE VERY FIRST QUOTE IN THE RISK MANAGEMENT SLIDE STATES THAT THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS THAT, IF MISHANDLED, COULD LEAD TO HIGHER RESIDENTIAL ELECTRIC RATES THAT EFFECTIVELY SUBSIDIZE THE LARGEST AND RICHEST COMPANIES IN THE WORLD AND THEIR CUSTOMERS. AND SO THE DATA CENTER DISCUSSION HAS BEEN ONE THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN A LOT OF OUR CONFERENCES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS YOU KNOW, JUST IN DECEMBER, AT OUR ANNUAL MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT DATA CENTERS, AND THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK FROM THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE SOME FOLKS FELT THAT THERE WAS NOT A BALANCE IN THE PRESENTATION. OBVIOUSLY, WE WERE AT THE CONFERENCE, AND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A SKEW ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO FAVOR THE ELECTRICITY COMPONENT AND CONSUMPTION AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO TODAY, WE JUST HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM YOU AS THE CHIEF POLICY ADVISOR FOR THE ELECTRIC COMPANY. BUT THE PERSPECTIVE COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE ELSE PRESENTING THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED NOT ONLY AT IG, BUT AG AND ALSO AT THE SOUTH FULTON MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION MEETING THAT WAS HOSTED BY HAPEVILLE. ARC GAVE THE PRESENTATION ON DATA CENTERS, AND IN THAT PRESENTATION, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DATA CENTERS THAT ARE SLATED TO COME TO FULTON COUNTY, ALL OF WHICH ARE SLATED FOR SOUTH FULTON. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP IN THE IG MEETING IS THAT ONE DATA CENTER CAN USE ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO POWER 20,000 HOMES. THAT IS A LOT OF CONSUMPTION FOR ONE DATA CENTER. GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF EAST POINT IS AN ELECTRIC CITY, IT IS ALSO A WATER CITY. AND ALTHOUGH WE'RE TRYING TO HARDEN OUR ELECTRIC GRID, WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. WE HAVE A LOT OF ELECTRICAL OUTAGES AND WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THOSE THINGS. SO TO HAVE A DATA CENTER THAT WOULD CONSUME AND USE SO MUCH ELECTRICITY, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALSO A WATER CITY, DATA CENTERS PRIMARILY ARE COOLING THOSE CENTERS BY WATER. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE AS A CITY THAT'S AN ELECTRIC CITY AND A WATER CITY TO BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONSUMPTION OF BOTH ELECTRICITY AND WATER, AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND ON YOUR SLIDE, YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE BENEFITS. JOB CREATION IS VERY MINIMAL, AND MOST OF THOSE ARE ONLY DURING THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTION. AFTER THAT, DATA CENTERS DO NOT EMPLOY A LOT OF EMPLOYEES. SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE YOUR INFORMATION AND GIVE OURSELVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT OTHER BEST PRACTICES AND OTHER DATA THAT'S OUT THERE, SO THAT THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY CAN MAKE A DECISION MOVING FORWARD. BUT I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I ALSO LIVE IN WARD D, NEXT TO THE DATA CENTER, LESS THAN A MILE AWAY FROM MY HOME, AND I SHARE A LOT OF THE SENTIMENT THAT SHAWN JUST MENTIONED. SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT EXISTING DATA CENTERS AS WELL AS NEW FROM AN EXISTING STANDPOINT, WHEN A DATA CENTER NEEDS MORE POWER, HOW DO WE ENSURE WHAT ARE SOME BEST PRACTICES OR WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN FROM OTHER CITIES TO ENSURE THAT COST DOESN'T SHIFT TO RESIDENTS? SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT FROM A GENERATION SIDE, YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE TO RELY ON ME TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE MIAC IN THEIR CONFERENCE HAVE SAID THAT WE ARE TRYING TO THINK THROUGH A DIFFERENT LAYER OF ONION TO MAKE SURE THAT TO PROTECT THE EXISTING CUSTOMER FROM PICKING UP THE DATA CENTER COSTS. AND SO WHEN WHEN THEY BUILD NEW GENERATION ASSET, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S HAD TO BE PROTECTION IN 
          [01:40:06]
THIS AREA THAT SAY THAT EVEN IF DATA CENTER. GO AWAY, THEY'RE STILL LIABLE FOR THE COST OF THE NEW GENERATION PLAN. NOW, YOU KNOW, THE THE DATA CENTER GROWTH THAT YOU SEE IN SOUTH FULTON. I WOULD GUESS THAT MOST OF THAT IS ACTUALLY PICKING UP BY GEORGIA POWER. GEORGIA POWER IS GOING OUT AND ACQUIRING AS MANY RESOURCES AS POSSIBLE. BEING THAT I WORK FOR TO ADVISE MUNICIPAL, YOU KNOW, I ENVY THEM BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY PICK UP A LOT OF MONEY. AND I LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, I OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE THE LOCAL PERSPECTIVE PERSPECTIVE WITH THE NOISE AND AND NUISANCE AND CONSTRUCTION AND TRAFFIC, ALL THAT STUFF. BUT FROM ME, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE DATA CENTERS GOING TO GEORGIA POWER AND NEIGHBORING CO-OP, I WOULD SAY, WOW, I WISH I WAS SITTING WOULD HAVE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PERHAPS IF MICROSOFT WAS TO BE SERVED BY EASTPOINT FOR A LONGER TIME, YOU COULD USE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO MAKE IT WORTHWHILE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FOLKS AFTER IT HAD BEEN COMPLETE. YES, THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF PAIN, BUT AFTER THE FACT THAT MONEY COULD BE USED FOR A LOT OF GOODS, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHAT I CAN SPEAK ON WHETHER BUT YOU YOU WILL HOLD THE THE DECISION POWER. WILL DATA CENTERS AUTOMATICALLY RAISE THE COST FOR RESIDENTIAL LIKE YOU UTILITY RATES? I WOULDN'T THINK SO, BECAUSE THE MANTRA THAT WE OPERATE ON IS ANY DATA CENTER WILL HAVE TO PICK UP THEIR OWN, CAUSE THAT'S INCLUDING TRANSMISSION. THAT'S INCLUDING THE POWER PLAN IN ANYTHING. 
          OTHER THING THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU HAVE TO FOR WATER, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD CHARGING AT COST NOW ON THE WATER IT LET ME SIDETRACK FOR A SECOND. I WOULDN'T USE THE ANALOGY OF FILLING UP YOUR SWIMMING POOL. ONCE YOU FILL UP THE SWIMMING POOL, IT'S LIKE TOPPING IT OFF. IT'S NOT LIKE A SUSTAINED, SUSTAINED USE OF WATER. SO YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY, I GUESS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IMMEDIATELY. I DON'T THINK SO, BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN WE STRUCTURE A DEAL, WHEN ECG AND WORK TOGETHER TO STRUCTURE A DEAL FOR YOU, WE WOULD TRY TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA CENTER PICK UP THEIR OWN COST, AND NONE OF THAT COST BLEED BACK TO TO YOU ALL. OKAY, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. IF I CAN ASK, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THERE WAS A BUDGET DEFICIT AND I KIND OF MISSED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WANTED YOU JUST TO EXPLAIN, KIND OF IN PLAIN LANGUAGE, WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT CURRENT IS THAT FUTURE PROJECTIONS, IS THAT RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE, POWER SUPPLY, LIKE WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? SO WHEN WE WERE REQUEST TO DO ELECTRIC RATE STUDY IN 2025, AND THE RESULT OF THAT STUDY CAME BACK, THAT THE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, THAT WAS A DEFICIT BECAUSE EXPAND EXCEEDING REVENUE, WE THEN TAKE THAT RESULT AND WE PROJECT IT TO ABOUT FOUR YEARS FORWARD. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE FROM 2025 TO 2028, BASICALLY YOU ARE YOUR REVENUE IS IS PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, STABLE. BUT THE EXPENSE SCENE IS IS NOT NEED TO BE REPLENISHED. RIGHT. NEED TO BE LOOKING AT. BUT ULTIMATELY THE REVENUE SUBTRACTING EXPENSE MEANING THAT YOUR WE PROJECT THAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY BETWEEN 7 AND 30 3000 TO $4.2 MILLION IN THE FUTURE YEARS. DISCOUNTED BASE. WE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. I THINK THE THAT WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT FINANCIAL INFORMATION BEING SHARED, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT. NOW THAT YOU HAVE A NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR IN PLACE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TO TYPICALLY FOR OTHER CITY, WE LOOK AT THE RESULT, WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET EVERY SINGLE YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY, THEN WE PROPOSE A WAY TO FIX THE GAP. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY HERE BECAUSE THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, CORRECT? YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU. I'M OVER HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO I KEEP HEARING THAT THERE'S THIS POSITIVE FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT WE COULD HAVE IF WE WOULD ALLOW DATA CENTERS IN. BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE A CITY, WE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND BUILD ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES TO THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, 
          [01:45:08]
RIGHT NOW WE CANNOT SUPPLY RELIABLE POWER TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE NOW. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, WE HAD SUBSTATIONS CATCH ON FIRE. RECENTLY, IN DECEMBER, THERE WAS AN ELECTRICAL BOX THAT CAUGHT ON FIRE, AND THE ENTIRE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE WAS WITHOUT POWER. DURING CHRISTMAS, WHEN WE HEAVILY RELY ON THOSE, THE SALES TAX FROM THAT AREA FOR TO FUND A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS IN OUR CITY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE FOR ME, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SUPPLY RELIABLE POWER NOW, I DON'T SEE HOW IT WOULD BE LOGICAL TO TO INCREASE THE LOAD SO MUCH. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO BANKING THAT AI IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A BUBBLE AND BURST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S THE THE BEST NEW THING. BUT I MEAN, IN FIVE YEARS THAT LANDSCAPE COULD CHANGE AND IT COULD, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE ANOTHER BETTER USE OF AI, IT COULD BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THESE DATA CENTERS THAT WE BUILT GO AWAY. THEY'RE NOT FOR YOU. POINT OF ORDER. OKAY. YEAH. MY RULE IS IF WE'RE FOLLOWING THE DEBATE. RULE IS THE TIMER SET, IS THE TIMER SET. SO. HALLELUJAH. OKAY. RULE NUMBER EIGHT DEBATE. NO COUNCILMEMBERS, NO COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL SPEAK MORE THAN ONCE ON THE SAME SUBJECT, NO LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES AT ANY ONE TIME. TIME IS MY POINT OF ORDER. I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE TIMER IS SET AS IT RELATES TO RULE NUMBER EIGHT. I DON'T HAVE THE TIME. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE A TIME ON THIS? I BELIEVE WE'RE THREE THREE. FIVE, THREE MINUTES. SORRY. NO COUNCIL MEMBER. SHALL SPEAK LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES AT ANY ONE TIME EXCEPT BY CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL. THERE HASN'T BEEN A CONSENT TO LENGTHEN OR SHORTEN THAT TIME. SO THE TIME. 
          IS FIVE MINUTES. EARLIER, IT WAS REQUESTED ON THIS END THAT THE TIMER FACE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN FACE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THE TIMER SHOULD BE SET. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. SO THE ALL RIGHT I WILL. SO IT WASN'T IT WAS OKAY. YEAH. FOR THE TIME OKAY I WILL SET THE TIMER ON MY END. THANK YOU. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I NEED YOU TO CLOSE OUT THE POINT OF ORDER. 
          EITHER UPHOLD IT OR PERSON. YES WE CAN. YES, THE POINT OF ORDER. I'M UPHOLDING THE POINT OF ORDER FOR RULE NUMBER EIGHT. AND ENSURE THAT SHE SETS THE TIMER. AND I WILL SET THE TIMER FOR THE COUNCIL. QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD FOR FIVE MINUTES PER. OKAY, SO ARE WE. DID YOU HAVE. ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOUR COMMENTS? I WAS ALMOST DONE. OKAY. I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE I FELT LIKE THERE COULD BE A POTENTIAL AI BUBBLE. 
          AND ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS REALITY RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF US, WE DON'T WE CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE BUILDING THESE DATA CENTERS FOR NOTHING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT SEE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AND SO THAT WOULD BE A HUGE COST THAT WE INVESTED. AND WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP NOT GETTING MUCH OUT OF IT. THANK YOU. THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE SO MIAC MAY MAINTAIN THE SUBSTATION AND TRANSMISSION. MOST OF THE DATA CENTERS ARE SERVED OUT OF THE TRANSMISSION AND SUBSTATION, SO THEY TAKE POWER DIRECTLY FROM THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM. THEY WOULDN'T RELY ON THE LOCAL DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WHICH YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER IS PAID FOR. NOW THE I'M SORRY, SIR, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY FOR THE SAKE OF TIME. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF WE CAN SAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION OR MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT ITEM. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. OKAY, 
          [01:50:07]
TWO ADDITIONAL. LET'S SEE. WAIT A MINUTE. THREE ADDITIONAL THREE PRESENTATIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS IF THEY ARE NOT TIME SENSITIVE TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION. IS THAT GOOD? SHE WANTS TO MOVE THE PRESENTATIONS, THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS. RIGHT? I DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE THE MID-YEAR FINANCIAL STUFF. SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE BUDGET, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THEY ARE TIME SENSITIVE. OKAY, GREAT. AND SO FOR THE MID-YEAR REVIEW EVENTS AND PROGRAM ACTIVITY, COUNCILMAN FREELY. I WOULD ASK THAT WE KEEP THAT. AND CITY MANAGER ALSO INDICATED THAT THAT ACTUALLY FITS INTO THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. SO I WOULD SAY THERE IS A AN ELEMENT OF TIME TIME SENSITIVITY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE MID-YEAR REVIEW EVENTS AND PROGRAM ACTIVITY FROM CITY MANAGER. AND YES, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU DO ANOTHER MOTION SO WE CAN REMAIN CONSISTENT TO SUSPEND THE RULES, BECAUSE THIS WORK SESSION POLICY THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION EARLIER TODAY. SO NOW THAT I KNOW ABOUT IT, I'VE GOTTA SAY SOMETHING THAT EACH WORK SESSION WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO PRESENTATIONS, NOT TO EXCEED A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES. SO YOU CAN HAVE THEM JUST DO WHAT WE DID BEFORE, SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. IF ANY ACTION, IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN ON THEM. LET'S INCLUDE THAT IN THE MOTION SO YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN. OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE WORK SESSION RULES THAT THE RULE NUMBER CITY ATTORNEY, THE RULE THAT SPECIFIES THAT ONLY TWO ITEMS, TWO PRESENTATIONS MIGHT BE PRESENTED AT ONE WORK SESSION. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT PRESENTATIONS STAY AT 15 MINUTES. AND WE'RE THOUGHTFUL AS A BODY ABOUT THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION 
          [II.3. Mid-Year Review/Events and Program Activity]
CARRIES AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE MID-YEAR REVIEW EVENTS AND PROGRAM ACTIVITY. THANKS. OH YOU'RE RIGHT. SORRY. I THOUGHT IT WAS MY ITEM. YEP. THANKS. YEAH. I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION. MY INITIAL INTENTION WAS TO FOCUS ON CITY EVENTS, SPECIFICALLY COUNCIL EVENTS, AS WELL AS EVENTS THAT FALL UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. LAST JUNE, THE COUNCIL MOVED NEARLY $1 MILLION IN COUNCIL EVENTS UNDER THE CITY MANAGER. I SUPPORTED THAT MOVE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE FAR TOO MUCH SPENDING ON EVENTS AND THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THOSE DOLLARS ACTUALLY ARE, AS OPPOSED TO THAT LINE ITEM IN A BUDGET BOOK. SO I WOULD LIKE TO AND I INTEND TO, MOVING FORWARD, ASK FOR SUCH A REVIEW EVERY SIX MONTHS. SO WE ARE SIX MONTHS HALFWAY THROUGH THIS BUDGET YEAR. SO I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO PULL TOGETHER THIS ACCOUNTING OF EVENT SPENDING, AND I BELIEVE THAT HE MAY HAVE EXPANDED THAT SCOPE A LITTLE BIT, AND I LEAVE THAT TO HIS JUDGMENT. BUT THAT IS THE THE GOAL HERE IS TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT ON VARIOUS EVENTS VERSUS WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE BUDGET, MR. CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR THAT LEAD IN. SO TAKING THAT TASK, I'VE ASKED STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION. 
          THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR BUDGET PROCESS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION EARLY ON ABOUT SEEKING AND PURSUING A PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PRACTICE. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO A TRUE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING SYSTEM THIS YEAR. BUT I DO LIKE TO KIND OF CONSIDER THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. AND SO THAT IT'S KIND OF PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING ISH. THAT BEING THAT BEING SAID, WE LIKE TO MOVE TOWARDS HAVING A MULTIPLE WAY OF LOOKING AND MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES IN LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET. SO TYPICALLY WE'VE BEEN 
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VERY LINE ITEM BY LINE, ITEM FOCUSED, NOT BREAKING THINGS DOWN IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS, SUCH AS PROGRAMS OR EVENTS OR ACTIVITIES, AS OPPOSED TO EVEN DEPARTMENT FOCUS OR EVEN CATEGORY FOCUS. SO WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS A BUDGET THAT WILL ALLOW US TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, SAME NUMBERS, BUT CATEGORY AND CONSOLIDATED IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO ALLOW THE READER TO BE ABLE TO SEEK THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN AND ACCESS ACCESS THAT AND UTILIZE THAT IN THIS, IN THEIR ANALYSIS. 
          THAT BEING SAID, WE WE DID TAKE HEED TO THE MID-YEAR REQUEST TO SEE WHERE WE ARE. OUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR, ELIZABETH CARTWRIGHT, WILL SPEAK TO THAT. WE'VE BEEN ALSO LISTENING TO THE COUNCIL, WITH ITS INTEREST IN HAVING MORE ANALYTICS AND AND IN OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND ANALYZING WHAT IF, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT THOSE RESULTS ARE AS FAR AS PEOPLE ATTENDING EVENTS, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE'VE TAKEN HEED TO THAT, BEEN ABLE TO ROLL OUT NEW TECHNOLOGIES. AND FRANK WHITFIELD, WHO IS THE HEAD OF RIGHT BEFORE YOU WILL TALK A BIT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN WE REAL EXCITED TO ALLOW OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL COORDINATOR TO ALSO SPEAK ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT THEY DO. SO WE'RE GOING TO WRAP ALL THAT UP. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF SLIDES. I THINK WE'RE I THINK WE'RE AT TEN SLIDES. SO THIS SHOULD BE GO GO QUICKLY WITH A LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR Q&A. I ALSO ALSO SAY THAT THIS IS JUST THE TRAILER, IF YOU WILL, TO OUR BUDGET PROCESS, MEANING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE WHOLE PLOT TO THE MOVIE, BUT THIS IS A GOOD TEASER TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S COMING. AND AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONSTANT BUDGET CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS OPPOSED TO THE BUDGET SCHEDULE THAT WE LAID OUT. SO WE'RE REALLY GOING TO STAY AND DISCIPLINE TO STAYING ON TRACK WITH THAT. AND THIS IS A PART OF THAT. SO WITH THAT, NO FURTHER ADO. MR. WHITFIELD, COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE US FORWARD? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A SLIDE DECK HERE. 
          THERE'S A LINK TO THE DECK AND ALSO A QR CODE TO SCAN IF YOU WANT TO PULL THIS UP. BUT I'LL BE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, GIVING YOU A SNAPSHOT OF SOME OF THE EAST POINT EVENTS AND ITS IMPACTS, AND A FINANCIAL PICTURE OF WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED THUS FAR. SO AGAIN, WHILE WE'RE WHILE WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT, IT WAS A FORMAL REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN FREELY. IT'S BEEN SOMETHING Y'ALL DISCUSSED HEAVILY DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR. BUT AS AN ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER HAS HAD US REALLY DIVING DEEP AND ASSESSING OUR COST, ASSESSING OUR PROCESSES, ASSESSING THE IMPACT. AND SO I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY DIVING DEEP AND TRYING TO ASSESS WHAT IS THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT FOR OUR CITY EVENTS. 
          SO AS YOU MENTIONED WE WE UTILIZE THIS TECHNOLOGY PLACER.AI WHICH ALLOWS US TO USE ANONYMOUS DATA FROM CELL PHONES THAT ALLOWS US TO DO LOCATION ANALYTICS TO SEE HOW MANY FOLKS ARE COMING TO A LOCATION, WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? AND TO HIS POINT, THE ONE REASON WHY THE GETTING REAL DEEP ON EACH EVENT, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE, BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY DIVE DEEP AND AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE FINDINGS WE HAD. THIS TOOL CAN BE USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT CAN BE USED FOR PLANNING. IT CAN BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS. YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY FOLKS ARE VISITING A PARK. SO YOU'RE ABLE TO ASSESS THAT AS WELL AND KIND OF MAKE DECISIONS THAT HELP INFORM YOU ALL IN THE CITY, DECISIONS TO MAKE. SO ONE OF THOSE PIECES OF DATA WE GOT WAS AROUND, AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT THE DIRECT REQUEST OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, LOOKING AT JULY AND AUGUST, WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN EVENT, WE HAD 3400 FOLKS ATTEND. THE JULY WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN, WITH 40% OF THOSE FOLKS BEING EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS. BASED UPON THE DATA AND AUGUST, WE HAD 8000 OVER 8000 FOLKS THAT WAS ON. TYRESE WAS THERE. SO YOU CAN SEE WHO'S THERE MATTERS. 
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BUT FOLKS SHOWED UP AND WE HAD PEOPLE TRAVEL AS FAR AS NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, VIRGINIA AND NEW JERSEY. SO THERE'S A LINK HERE AND I'LL JUST SHOW YOU REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD TEN ON TIME. BUT YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS DOCUMENT IS 109 PAGES, AND IT SHOWS WHERE PEOPLE CAME FROM AND WHERE THEY WENT TO AFTER THEY LEFT WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. 
          SO FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, YOU CAN REALLY START TO PLAN AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, HOW DO WE LEVERAGE HAVING OVER 25,000 FOLKS COMING TO EASTPOINTE A YEAR? HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THAT TO MAKE AN IMPACT SO THAT THERE'S A RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT? NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, AS YOU MENTIONED, CHRIS SWAIN FOR OUR PUBLIC ARTS COORDINATOR, SPEAK ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT HE HOSTED HERE IN THE CITY. AND THEN I'LL SHOW YOU ANOTHER SNAPSHOT OF KIND OF HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE FINANCES. CHRIS. GOOD EVENING. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRISTOPHER SWAIN, PUBLIC ARTS COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. AND THIS IS ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT WE HOST. CHRIS DOESN'T HOST ANYTHING. THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE HOST. SO FOR ME, THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME IS TO KNOW THAT THESE ARE FAMILY ORIENTED CULTURAL COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE. SO EVERYONE HAS A VOICE, EVERYONE IS SEEN, EVERYONE IS HEARD. THEY'RE ALL FREE. THEY'RE ALL OUR GROUNDS. ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE. 
          SO EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO COME. IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ARTS FOR ME ARE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. MOST PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK FOR QUALITY OF LIFE THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE NORTHERN SIDE OF TOWN. SO MY GOAL IS TO BRING THOSE QUALITIES OF LIFE TO OUR RESIDENTS. BECAUSE WE PAY TOO MUCH FOR PROPERTY TAXES. THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE NORTH SIDE FOR ANYTHING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO. AND FRANKLY, YEAH, YEAH. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. BUT THIS FISCAL YEAR SO FAR WE'VE DONE EXHALE, WHICH IS A SOUND BATH WHICH TAKES PLACE IN THIS SPACE. WE'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE TIMES. 
          ELEVATED RHYTHMS, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY MUSIC EVENT. IT'S AN OUTDOOR DANCE EVENT, BUT IT'S REALLY MUSIC THERAPY. IT'S WHAT IT IS. WE ALSO HOSTED A ATLANTA AFRICAN DRUM AND DANCE FESTIVAL AT TRI-CITIES HIGH SCHOOL THIS YEAR. STRINGS ON THE GREEN WAS A GREAT, GREAT ATTEMPT TO HAVE CLASSICAL MUSIC ON THE GROUNDS OF EASTPOINTE HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, REPAIR THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND TO MOVE, MOVE THINGS FORWARD. THAT WAS SUCH A SUCCESS THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE PLANNING A SERIES OF CONCERTS OVER THAT. THAT WILL BE FOUR AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONE. WE ALSO SCREENED A FILM ABOUT THE BALLERINA, LINDA MITCHELL, WHO'S THE PRIMA BALLERINA FOR THE DANCE THEATER OF HARLEM WITH ARTHUR MITCHELL, WHICH WAS AN AMAZING STORY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THAT AGAIN FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH AT THE END OF ACTUALLY GOING TO DO IT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT ADDED TO IT AS WELL. THE STANDING PEACHTREE NATIVE AMERICAN FESTIVAL, WHICH TAKES PLACE EVERY YEAR, THE TWO DAY FESTIVAL. WE ALSO DO THE DAY OF THE DEAD CELEBRATION, AND THE LAST THING WE DID AT THE END OF THE YEAR WAS DAYDREAMING, WHICH WAS SORT OF LIKE A SOUND BATH, BUT IT WAS MORE OF A VISIONING SESSION SO PEOPLE COULD LEAVE THINGS BEHIND FOR THAT YEAR AND PLAN WHAT THEY WANT FOR THIS YEAR. IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THE ONLY OTHER FUNCTION ON THE EVENT THAT I HOST WOULD BE DRAGGED DOWN SOUTH. THAT COMES UP IN JUNE THIS YEAR TO BE ON JUNE 13TH. FRANK. THANK YOU CHRIS. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FINANCIAL PICTURE. SO EVEN IN THIS DEEP DIVE HERE I CAN SHARE WITH YOU. WHEN WE LOOKED AT EVEN DRAG DOWN SOUTH WHAT YOU MENTIONED, WE ACTUALLY CAN GO DIVE DEEP AND SEE LIKE LAST YEAR, HOW MANY FOLKS ATTENDED, HOW DO WE PLAN FOR IT, ETC. FROM A DATA AND ANALYTICS STANDPOINT. BUT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT IT IN A COUPLE WAYS. WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE COUNCIL BUDGET FOR THE EVENT, HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT YEAR TO DATE, WHAT'S THAT VARIANCE? AND THEN WE HAD SOME VERY UNIQUE FINDINGS THAT ELIZABETH IS GOING TO SPEAK TO. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CORRECT SO THEY CAN BE PROPERLY MANAGED IN THE FUTURE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, PUBLIC ARTS RIGHT NOW, THEIR VARIANCE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAST THE HALFWAY MARK OF THE BUDGET. THEY'RE ONLY AT 35% OF USING THEIR FINANCES THAT THEY WERE ALLOCATED. SO THEY'RE DOING WELL IN TERMS OF MANAGING THEIR BUDGET FOR THEIR EVENTS. THEN WE HAVE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PICTURE, WHERE COUNCIL ALLOCATED $400,000 A YEAR TO DATE. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THIS BREAKS DOWN. WE'VE SPENT AROUND $546,000, WHICH PUTS US MUCH FURTHER OVER BUDGET. AND AND OUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR WILL TALK ABOUT HOW WE FOUND THAT 546 AND JUST KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A JOURNEY, REALLY KIND OF UNCOVERING AND UNPACKING WITH THESE EVENTS, BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IS NOT EVERYTHING IS 
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LABELED AN EVENT IN THE BUDGET. THAT IS AN EVENT. SO THAT'S ONE THING. THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE FOUND THAT MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO EVENTS. SO IT MAY SAY ON A LINE ITEM 400,000, BUT MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT, TO THAT EFFORT. AND SO WE HAVE ONE OTHER SLIDE TO SHOW RELATED TO THIS. SO FRIENDS, WHEN WE LOOKED UP JUST IN OUR BUDGET, WE OPENED UP OUR WALLET AND SAID, ALL RIGHT, LET'S LOOK UP EVERYTHING THAT SAYS EVENTS HERE. WE HAD SIX CATEGORIES THAT WERE LABELED EVENTS INSIDE PEOPLE'S BUDGETS. SO PEOPLE ARE LABELING THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE LABELING THESE DIFFERENT. SO FROM A MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, IT'S THAT'S ONE DIFFICULTY TO TRACK. SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'LL SEE LATER ON IS RELATED TO THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS WE FOUND THAT CERTAIN THINGS WEREN'T EVEN LABELED EVENTS, BUT THEY WERE STILL RESOURCES BEING UTILIZED TOWARD EVENTS. 
          SO I LET THE INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR SPEAK TO WHAT WE DISCOVERED, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTIONS. SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. SO YES, LOOKING AT THIS, RESEARCHING THE EVENTS. RIGHT. SO WE'RE PULLING I PULLED THE EVENTS AND WE ARE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT G.L NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING UP FOR THIS. SO WE REALLY NEED TO WORK FORWARD IN THE FUTURE TO CREATE ONE GL NUMBER. WE'RE GOING TO LABEL IT EVENTS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO WE'LL ISSUE OUT PROJECT NUMBERS FOR PROJECT WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN PROJECT CHRISTMAS. AND SO THEN WE WILL HAVE ONE GL NUMBER. AND THEN WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN BY PROJECT. AND THAT'LL GIVE US A BETTER TRANSPARENCY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR AND THE COUNCIL. SO CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT NUMBER AS WELL. YEAH. SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN DO WE NEED TO PULL IT UP? YEAH. IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK TO THAT. THE PROJECT, HOW EVERY DEPARTMENT IS CONTRIBUTING AND HOW YOU, HOW WE'RE GOING TO START MARKING THOSE. OKAY. SO WE'LL USE POLICE FOR EXAMPLE. THEY HAVE A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S NOT BEING CALCULATED WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS DO A DEEP DIVE AND GO, I HAD TO SPEAK TO EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO SEE WHAT THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. SO WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOING PURCHASES FOR WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. WE HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYONE'S CONTRIBUTING. AND SO SOME ARE WORKING LATE, SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY GETTING OVERTIME, BUT THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING THOSE HOURS. SO WE HAD TO CALCULATE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION INTO THE SPREADSHEET. CAN YOU PULL UP THAT SPREADSHEET? SO THIS IS WHY DO YOU WANT YOU WANT. GO TO THE SIDE. SO THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN FROM THE COUNCIL CITY MANAGER AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE I PULLED IN ALL OF THOSE MONIES I'D LIKE TO GO. AND ALL OF THIS IS DATA DRIVEN. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO LOOK AT IT WE CAN PULL WHERE IT SAYS PIVOT. IT ACTUALLY HAS ALL OF THAT LIVE DATA BEHIND IT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE EXPENSES LOOK LIKE. 
          AND SO FOR THIS PART, WE JUST REALLY WANTED TO BRING IN JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER BECAUSE THIS IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR. IT'S THAT TOTAL I THINK IT'S FINE. SO HERE WE HAVE THE TOTAL IS 546,773. AND WHAT WHAT I DID WAS I ADDED THE ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND SO I JUST PUT THAT TOTAL IN. SO YOU CAN SEE CITY COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE WAS 3200. AND THEN THE CITY MANAGERS WERE MOST OF THOSE FUNDS WERE EXPENDED OUT OF, BECAUSE WE MOVED THOSE CITY EVENT FUNDS TO THE CITY MANAGER'S ACCOUNT. AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S 130%, 37%. SO WE WE WENT OVER THE $400,000 BUDGET. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WAS JUST WANTING TO CHECK WHERE ARE WE WITH TIME FOR THE PRESENTATION? THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THEN IT'S THE LAST PIECE YOU GOT OUR RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS. SO YEAH, FOR THE FUTURE WE WANT TO AGAIN CREATE ONE GL NUMBER SO THAT WE CAN CREATE MORE TRANSPARENCY ALONG WITH THE BUDGET. I MEAN THE THE PROJECT CODES FOR EACH EVENT. AND SO EVERYONE IN THE ORGANIZATION WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHARGING TO THAT ONE GL. AND ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP FOR CHRIS IS IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE HIS OUR PROGRAMS. SO I WANT TO CREATE A PROGRAM WHERE HE CAN. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY EVENTS. IT'S A PART OF A PROGRAM THAT HE RUNS. AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO DEFINE THAT. AND AND ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE SOME TRANSPARENCY. WE WANT TO CREATE LIKE A, A G-L VOCABULARY IF YOU WILL. SO EACH GL WILL HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THAT SHOULD BE CHARGED TO. SO IF YOU'RE BUYING FOOD THEN IT NEEDS TO BE IN A FOOD LINE OR PROGRAMS EVENTS. AND SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE WANT TO CREATE SOME TRANSPARENCY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR YOURSELF AS COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. YES OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION. AND THE THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO BRINGING OUT THE DETAILS. I WILL SHARE THAT. 
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I KNOW THAT THE THE PUBLIC WILL OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY, BUT I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOR THIS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL. FREEMAN. THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. QUESTION. SO THERE WAS ONE SLIDE WHERE YOU SEEMED TO HAVE SORT OF WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR, WHICH WAS THE TOTAL SPEND YEAR TO DATE, 585,000 546,000 OF THAT WAS TO WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN CONCERTS. SO THAT MEANS EVERYTHING ELSE HALLOWEEN, CHRISTMAS. ALL OF MR. SWAIN'S EVENTS TOTAL 39,000. THAT'S FINE. SO? SO KEEP WELL. CAN YOU KEEP THAT SLIDE THERE. SO THIS IS AGAIN. SO ONE THING THAT WE REALIZED IS EVERYBODY'S EVENTS ARE LABELED DIFFERENTLY. SO WHEN WE TYPED IN EVENT IN OUR GLS THIS IS WHAT CAME UP. WHAT WE REALIZED. AND I HOPE YOU PICKED UP FROM THE INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS. 
          THESE EXPENSES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO WE'LL BRING WE'LL PULL UP A BREAKDOWN. BUT WE FOUND THESE EXPENSES ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO THIS IS JUST WHAT PEOPLE HAD ON THE BOOKS. THAT SAID, 500 CHRIS'S EVENTS ARE ACTUALLY LABELED SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY INSIDE OF HIS DIVISION. IT'S NOT EVEN LABELED EVENTS. CORRECT. SO WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS WHY I REQUESTED THIS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH WE'RE REALLY SPENDING IS YOUR ANSWER. WE STILL DON'T KNOW. WE KNOW. LET ME PULL THIS. SO WHERE IS THAT NUMBER FROM JULY TO NOW? COUNCILMAN? FREELY. SO THIS IS THE THE THE CITY CONTRIBUTIONS TO WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN IS A TOTAL OF 546,000. IF YOU GIVE ME A TOTAL ON THE THESE ONES RIGHT HERE. SO THE COUNCIL ON THE MANAGER. THESE TWO WERE. SO THAT TOTALS 543,498 I BELIEVE I THINK I KNOW THAT FOR WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S TWO CONCERTS FOR WEDNESDAY. WIND DOWN. YEAH. MY REQUEST WAS ALL EVENTS FROM JULY TO PRESENT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THOSE THINGS THAT USED TO BE UNDER COUNCIL EVENTS AS WELL AS MR. SWAIN'S EVENTS. SO ALL YOU'VE GIVEN US IS TWO WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN CONCERTS, AND THEN THERE'S $39,000. YEAH. WHICH YOU'RE SAYING IS NOT THE ACTUAL NUMBER. 
          NO, NO. SO LET ME LET ME MAKE SURE THIS IS VERY CLEAR. AND, AND WE, WE KIND OF PREDICTED THIS BECAUSE IT WAS DISCOVERY FOR US AS WELL WHEN WE PUT INTO OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM EVENTS. 
          HERE'S ALL THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT THAT IS IN. THAT NUMBER IS TOTALING SO FAR THIS YEAR, 585,000 PLUS DOLLARS. WE COULD HAVE JUST PRESENTED THIS NUMBER AND THEN HAD THE DISCUSSION HERE AND JUST SAID, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE NUMBER IS. BUT BEING TRANSPARENT AND REALLY SEEING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, WE KNOW DEPARTMENTS ARE PAYING FOR EVENTS OUT OF OTHER PLACES. SO WE GOTTA THIS IS ABOUT TO BE A JOURNEY. WE'RE ABOUT TO GO ON WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT TO GO DOWN THE LINE. WE DON'T KNOW. WE KNOW. WELL, WE DO KNOW SOMETHING. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE STARTING FROM ZERO. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT I THINK I HEAR IS WE DON'T KNOW, JUST VAGUELY. THERE'S A LOT WE KNOW AND THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS ON AS WE DISCOVER MORE. SO. RIGHT. BUT IF I WERE TO ASK YOU RIGHT NOW, I DIDN'T SEE IT HERE. WHAT DID THE CITY SPEND ON THE HALLOWEEN EVENT? YOU DON'T HAVE IT HERE. WHAT DID THE CITY SPEND ON THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, WHICH WAS PARKS AND REC? YOU DON'T HAVE IT HERE. WHAT? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? OKAY, SO THAT'S THAT. WE NEED THAT BIG ONE THAT I HAVE READ BEFORE, WHICH ONE? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN ALWAYS SWITCH IT TO THIS ONE IF YOU HAVE THE SAME. AS SHE'S AS SHE'S PULLING THAT UP THROUGH YOU. MADAM MAYOR TO COUNCIL. AS WE AS WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPARTMENTS. 
          YES. THE INFORMATION IS THERE. I THINK PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ACTUALLY ASK THE SECOND QUESTION OF, IS THERE ANYWHERE ELSE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT THIS COULD BE? AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE TIME. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT WE'VE SHOWN, LIKE WITH WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN. WHEN WE DID THAT, THAT WASN'T LIKE A LIKE CLICK ON A COUPLE THINGS. 
          IT WAS, HEY POLICE DEPARTMENT, CAN YOU COME IN? LET'S SIT DOWN FOR THREE HOURS AND TALK ABOUT 
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HOW ARE YOU CONTRIBUTING TO THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. LET'S SIT DOWN. SO ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE. IT JUST TAKES TIME. AGGREGATING IT AND THEN ASKING THE TOUGH QUESTION OF IS THAT WHAT ABOUT THIS AND WHAT ABOUT THAT? BUT FROM A DATA NUMBER STANDPOINT, THERE IS NUMBERS ABOUT WHO GOT PAID, WHAT VENDORS WERE PAID, ETC. I GUESS. OKAY, ALL THAT INFORMATION, WOULD YOU? THAT'S NOT WHY THIS MATTERS. MR. CITY MANAGER, IS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE SPENT, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE LEFT TO SPEND? FOR EXAMPLE, $400,000 IS BUDGETED FOR FOR WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN EVENTS IN A IN A BUDGET YEAR, WE HAVE SPENT 546,000 ON TWO, SO THERE IS NO MORE MONEY LEFT. HAVE WE ALSO OVERSPENT ACROSS THE BOARD SO THAT IF WE DO THE EVENTS THAT ARE STILL ON THE CALENDAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO A DEFICIT? LIKE HOW WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE IN THE HOLE. AM I WRONG? NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE ON POINT. AND WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE LAST FISCAL YEAR WHERE WE HAD TO NOT DO EVENTS PARTICULARLY RELATED TO WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. I, I DO KNOW IN IN THE RUSH TO CUT DOWN THE SLIDES THAT THERE ARE NUMBERS TO THE WORK THAT COMES OUT OF THE ART AND CULTURE DIVISION. SO I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ACCOUNTED FOR. THEY JUST MAYBE NOT MADE THE FINAL CUT ON WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO PRESENT ON THIS PRESENTATION. BUT IF YOU HAVE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OF THE RAW WORK. IF YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU, YOU COULD YOU COULD PRESENT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOME OF THE HOLISTIC PICTURE. WE CERTAINLY, DEFINITELY PULLING OUT ALL THE STOPS OF UNDERSTANDING THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. BUT THERE'S OTHER EVENTS THAT I'M ALSO HEARING THAT THE COUNCIL OR COUNCILMAN IS ASKING ABOUT. SO DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION HANDY? I CAN GET IT LATER. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW. BUT I DIDN'T JUST ASK TO HAVE THIS PRESENTATION JUST TO AMUSE MYSELF. I WANTED US TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WE HAD $50 FOR THIS TRIP. WE SPENT 750. WHAT DO WE DO NOW? SO IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE SPENT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE MANAGE THESE THINGS, HOW ARE WE BEING RESPONSIBLE? AND HERE COMES THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER. BUT I WILL SAY THAT'S A PART OF WHY SHE'S MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION. SHE IS ABOUT EVERY DEPARTMENT BEING REQUIRED TO USE THE SAME GL NUMBER SO THAT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO HIDING THE EXPENSES, BECAUSE I THINK A PART OF WHAT HAPPENS NOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING WAS CLEAR. THE THE REASON SOMETHING CAN GO SO HIGH IS BECAUSE IT'S BEING HIDDEN IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAD $50 IN THIS POCKET AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAME UP WITH 354. IT'S I GOT 50 HERE. BUT LET ME I'M USING 20 OVER HERE. I'M USING TEN RIGHT HERE, I'M USING FIVE RIGHT HERE. AND SO PART OF WHAT THE INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR IS, IS GOING TO BE INSTITUTING IS EVERYBODY'S GOT TO USE THE SAME POCKET. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO SHIFTING AROUND ANYMORE. SO I GOT TO COME OUT THE SAME BOAT BECAUSE IT'S THE PUBLIC'S POCKET. YEAH. WE'RE TAKING ALL THIS MONEY OUT OF. YEAH. SO I GUESS WE'VE ALREADY DISCOVERED A CONSIDERABLE DEFICIT IN AT LEAST ONE LINE ITEM. SO IS IS THE PLAN TO REQUEST BUDGET AMENDMENTS? HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING WHAT WE DO KNOW? SO I GUESS IF IF THERE'S A PLAN RIGHT NOW, THE FIFA IS SCHEDULED TO BE WHEN WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN EVENTS WOULD HAVE OCCURRED. AND I THINK IN COMING WEEKS THERE'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSION. IF FIFA IS MORE OF A AREA THAT WE WANT TO SPEND OUR TIME, BECAUSE LITERALLY THE DATES COINCIDE RIGHT OVER EACH OTHER. SO THAT, COUPLED WITH WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN FUNDING FOR THE SPRING EVENTS WOULD WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONVERSATION IF WE EVEN HAD THEM. JUST SAME KIND OF CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST YEAR. I THINK ONE OF THE EVENTS WE DIDN'T HAVE, I THINK IT WAS IN JUNE BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDING FOR THAT EVENT, I THINK THAT SAME CONVERSATION WOULD HAPPEN. BUT NOW ALSO IN IN THE CONSIDERATION OF FIFA, WHAT 
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RESOURCES MIGHT BE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT RESOURCES ARE EVEN BEING CONSIDERED OR ASKED. 
          I, I HAVE A MEETING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK TO FIND OUT WHAT THE WHAT THE WORK HAS BEEN WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN VISITING ON THAT ISSUE. THAT MIGHT ALSO NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS A PART OF IF WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN NEEDS TO BE FOUR EVENTS, THREE EVENTS, TWO EVENTS, ONE EVENT. IN THE IN THE COMING YEAR, IN THIS IN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. SO IT'S PROBABLY PROBABLY GOOD TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY FINISHING OUT THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET THE WAY WE MADE THAT WE ASCERTAINED THAT INFORMATION LAST FISCAL YEAR AND SAID, YEAH, WE PROBABLY HAVE. DID OUR WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN SPENDING FOR THE YEAR. AND THEN WE PREPARED FOR THE NEXT YEAR, OR WE LOOK AT WHATEVER IS LEFT, IF THERE'S ANY, TO DEVOTE THAT AND DIVERT THAT TO FIFA WORK, THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILMAN ADKINS. AND I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT. WE ARE ON TIME. AND JUST SOME CLARIFICATION, CITY MANAGER, YOU SAID THAT THIS ITEM WAS TIME SENSITIVE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. JUST I JUST WANT I'M TRYING TO. SO WHAT'S THE TIME AND DEADLINE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SO THAT WE CAN HELP COUNCIL UNDERSTAND WHETHER WE NEED TO MOVE THIS TO ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM OR OR TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION. WELL, THIS IS PART OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET TIMELINE TO KEEP US ON THE APRIL 20TH TIMELINE OF SUBMITTING THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET. NO, YOU WASN'T IN OFFICE AT THE TIME, BUT LAST YEAR WE WENT TO UNPRECEDENTED LENGTHS. LITERALLY THE LAST THREE HOURS TO PASS A BUDGET ON THE 30TH OF JUNE. SO THIS TIME WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON WE WORK WITH BACKWARD ENGINEERED THE HARD DATES THAT EVERY DISCUSSION NEEDED TO HAPPEN TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THE BUDGET PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL IN A TIMELY MANNER, AND ALSO OBSERVED OUR CITY ORDINANCES, WHICH CLEARLY STATE WHAT THE TIMELINE SHOULD BE. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT WE PUT THE DATES, I MEAN, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THE REQUIRED TIMING IS FOR EACH FOR THE AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M SORRY. AND GO AHEAD TO. COUNCILMAN. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. JUST QUICK QUESTIONS, MISS CARTWRIGHT. THE I THINK IT'S JULY AND AUGUST AND THE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL COMMITTEE LINE ITEMS. I THINK THAT THOSE NUMBERS JUST TOTAL VERY SMALL AMOUNT 3275. BUT WE HAD ALREADY MOVED THE DOLLARS OVER FROM THE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL COMMITTEE SIDE TO THE CITY MANAGER'S SIDE. WHAT WERE THOSE DOLLARS FOR? THERE WAS ACTUALLY SEVERAL EVENTS IN THAT, NOT JUST FOR WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN. THERE WAS THINGS LIKE THE TURKEY HALLOWEEN. THERE WAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS OR DETAIL LINES, AND NOT FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET, BUT THAT I'M VERY SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. NO. BUT WHAT? ALL OF THOSE THINGS MOVED OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER'S SIDE. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW FUNDS WERE EXPENDED FOR THAT. RIGHT. THEY WERE MOVED OVER. 
          BUT WHEN THE GL PROCESS IS HAPPENING, WHEN PEOPLE ARE PAYING THE BILLS, SOMETIMES THEY INADVERTENTLY CHARGE TO THE WRONG ACCOUNT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. SO WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW IS A RECLASSIFICATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO WE NEED TO MOVE THOSE FUNDS TO THE RIGHT GL NUMBER WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER'S NUMBER OKAY. AND I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I REMEMBER DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WHEN WE'RE PASSING THE BUDGET, THERE WAS WE HAD A LOT OF MONEY, AS COUNCILMEMBER SAID, ALMOST $1 MILLION. RIGHT. AND I'M JUST A STRONG BELIEVER THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO VOTED FOR US, THEY VOTED FOR US TO BE LEGISLATORS AND NOT EVENT PLANNERS. AND SO WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON THAT. SO EVEN THE SMALLEST AMOUNT, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE WOULD BE STILL SPENDING MONEY ON EVENTS. WE'VE MOVED THAT SO THAT THERE WOULD BE A PROCESS PROCUREMENT IF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. ANY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. NO. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE THE ACCOUNTS THAT ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, CHARGED THAT, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO THE RIGHT ACCOUNT. SO SOMETIMES WHEN WELL, NORMALLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS WE HAVE BUDGET ANALYSTS OR MYSELF ARE LOOKING AT THESE ON A MONTHLY BASIS SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, OH, THIS ACCOUNTS GOT 
          [02:25:04]
A VARIANCE OF 100% BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A BUDGET IN THERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT YOU'RE MEETING WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS. BECAUSE WE'RE TIGHT. THERE'S ONE OF ME. BUT YOU KNOW, NOT THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE IN MY EYES. LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ANALYSIS EVERY MONTH WITH EACH DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN FOLLOW AND MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THAT VARIANCE. SO THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S THE FUTURE GOAL FOR ME. OKAY. MY LAST QUESTION AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR MR. WHITFIELD. 
          THIS IS ABOUT THE PLACE FOR AI. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FROM WHERE FOLKS WHO ARE ATTENDING OUR EVENTS ARE COMING AND TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING. RIGHT. AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE OF INTEREST TO ME. ONE OF THE PLACES FROM WHICH THEY WERE COMING WAS BANK OF AMERICA. I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND ONE OF THE PLACES TO WHICH THEY WERE GOING, KRISPY KREME. AND IF WE LOOK AT THE BANK OF AMERICA PIECE, I THINK THAT IN ONE INSTANCE, IT WAS 4.4% OF THE PEOPLE WERE COMING FROM BANK OF AMERICA. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN EVENT AT 8200 PEOPLE, THAT'S 261 PEOPLE COME FROM THIS BANK OF AMERICA UP HERE. 
          OKAY. SO ONE THING I WILL SAY IS BECAUSE I EVEN NOTICED THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE ANALYSIS, THAT'S ONE REASON WHY IT SAYS DRAFT ON THERE AND THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR TO COUNCIL, I APOLOGIZE. IS I ALSO LOOKED AT LIKE IT SAID, PEOPLE WENT TO THE MARTA STATION. SO IT WAS LIKE, THAT'S NOT A DESTINATION. THEY WERE JUST GETTING TO THEIR VEHICLE TO THEN LEAVE. SO I THINK A PART OF IT IS WHERE DID PEOPLE PARK? WHAT IS THE MAP SAY? WHERE THEY WENT TO THEIR CAR AND THAT WAS THE CORRELATION. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT THAT'S A DESTINATION. SO IF YOU COULD CLICK TO GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. THE REASON THAT I'M BRINGING UP THAT POINT IS BECAUSE I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGES OF EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS THAT, BASED ON YOUR SLIDE, YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT WE WERE SERVING FOR THOSE EVENTS. NEITHER OF THOSE EVENTS WOULD THEN, BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, REACH AT LEAST 50%. RIGHT. SO THIS IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS BEING SPENT ON NON EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS. AND SO I JUST CALL INTO QUESTION THE, THE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE USING TO GATHER THAT DATA. 
          BECAUSE IF IT'S SAYING THEY'RE COMING FROM BANK OF AMERICA I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. IF IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KRISPY KREME I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE PEOPLE ARE REALLY EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS OR NOT. SO IT'S MAKING ME QUESTION, ARE WE SERVING MORE THAN 40% OR MORE THAN 30%, OR ARE WE SERVING LESS? I DON'T KNOW, GOTCHA. SO SO WHEN THOSE PRE TRIPS AND WE CAN HAVE A WHOLE PRESENTATION ON, ON PLACER.AI BECAUSE AGAIN IT CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS OTHER THAN JUST EVENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU I'M GOOD I THINK I MADE THE POINT. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO. DO YOU HAVE ANY. YEAH I HAVE YOU AND THEN I HAVE ONE TIME I HAVE ROGER'S AND THEN ANDRE'S. OKAY. FIRST THINGS FIRST. YOUR LIGHT IS ON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE READY? YES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO JUST REMIND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALSO OUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF, IF IT'S TIME SENSITIVE, PLEASE GET IT TO US IN ADVANCE. BUT THERE'S ALSO A PART OF THE POLICY THAT SAYS ATTACHMENTS AND DOCUMENTATION SHOULD BE ATTACHED. I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE AGENDA, AND OFTENTIMES I SIT DOWN AND TAKE TIME TO READ THE AGENDA. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE TONIGHT AND THEN WE HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. SO IN THE FUTURE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE ATTACHMENTS WITH YOUR WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEMS. THESE ARE MY QUESTIONS. IN BRIEF, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I THINK TO COUNCIL MEMBER FREHLEY'S POINT, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO LABEL ALL OF THE EVENTS IN THE CITY BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE JULY 4TH LABELED OR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT FOR DRAG DOWN SOUTH. ALSO, OUT OF THE 546, $546,773.21, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET IS THAT AMOUNT, AND THEN A BREAKDOWN FOR ALL OF THE OTHER CITY SPONSORED EVENTS. THAT INCLUDES THE AMOUNT AND ALSO THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET AS WELL. NUMBER FOUR, YOU HAD THE LONG DISTANCE VISITORS FROM NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA AND VIRGINIA FOR OUR LOCAL CULTURAL SPONSORED EVENTS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM. FOR THAT, YOU HAD IT FOR WEDNESDAY, WIND DOWN, BUT ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT THE THE CITY PUTS ON THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE PROVIDED TO. I REMEMBER TALKING TO SOMEONE, A NEIGHBOR WHO MENTIONED QR CODES THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS, YOU TAP YOUR QR CODE. MAYBE YOU CAN GET A DISCOUNT AT 
          [02:30:07]
CUPCAKERY, MAYBE YOU CAN GET A DISCOUNT AT CHAIRS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO PUSH THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE. AND IF WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN IS CENTERED AROUND THE WORLD SERIES THAT IS COMING, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DO TO DO SOMETHING FOR THAT EVENT. WE'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ATLANTA. WE HAVE TWO SOCCER PARKS, ONE OFF BEN HILL ROAD, ONE IN DOWNTOWN ATLANTA. WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE FOR THAT PIECE? AND I'LL YIELD. IS IT THE WORLD? IT'S THE WORLD SERIES, RIGHT? WORLD CUP, WORLD CUP. I KEEP GETTING IT CONFUSED. 
          I'M SO SORRY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO DO A CAUTION WITH QR CODES WHEN I KNOW. ANDREA. 
          YOU'RE NEXT. AND I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL, YOU'RE NEXT WITH QR CODES. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. I FIRST WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THAT ROI ISN'T ALWAYS MONETARY EVENTS, LIKE THE SOUND BATH THAT I'VE ATTENDED, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE. IT REALLY DOES PROVIDE REAL COMMUNITY BENEFIT, REDUCING THINGS LIKE ISOLATION, CREATING, YOU KNOW, STRONGER CONNECTION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, AT THE SAME TIME, YOU DO HAVE EVENTS LIKE WIND DOWN WEDNESDAY THAT CLEARLY DRIVE THAT CAN DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. I SAW ON THE SLIDE, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE EVENTS ATTRACTED OVER 8000 ATTENDEES. DO WE HAVE A WAY THAT WE CAN MEASURE TRUE ROI ON THESE EVENTS? I DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH AND SAW SOMETHING THAT ON AVERAGE, YOU TYPICALLY SEE ABOUT $25 SPENT PER VISITOR WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE CITY. IF YOU JUST DO ROUGH MATH ON THAT, THAT'S $200,000. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN FUTURE REPORTING IF WE COULD EXPLORE HOW WE CAN BEGIN TRACKING TRUE ROI ON EVENTS LIKE A WEDNESDAY WOUND DOWN, DRAG DOWN SOUTH, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE TRUE VALUE OF THE EVENT. ALL RIGHT. I WILL HOLD MY QUESTIONS FOR ANOTHER TIME. LET'S SEE. SO I JUST BASICALLY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CAUTION ABOUT THE QR CODES WHEN WE'RE PUTTING QR CODES OUT IN PUBLIC. SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN PUT OTHER QR CODES IN IT. AND IT'S REALLY CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN FRAUD AND DOWNLOADING, YOU KNOW, BAD THINGS ON YOUR ON YOUR PHONE. SO JUST WANT TO CAUTION WITH THE USE OF QR CODES. THEY CAN BE PROBLEMATIC FOR PEOPLE. 
          SO BUT THANK YOU AND I WILL MOVE ON. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS QUESTION. SO HE COULD COME BACK. IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY? I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD PROBABLY BE MOVED TO FEBRUARY'S WORK SESSION, SO IT CAN COME BACK WITH A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN ASKED. I MEAN, THAT'S FINE. AS I SAID, I GOING TO ASK FOR THIS ON A SORT OF SIX MONTH BASIS. BUT IF YOU DO HAVE MORE OF THE SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS BY FEBRUARY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST. SO IF I CAN'T, MAY I JUST WANT TO GET SOME MORE CLARIFICATION. 
          YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT BROKEN DOWN BY THE ACTUAL EVENT, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. WHAT WHAT I HAD HOPED FOR WAS AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOUR YOUR PRESENTATION WAS VALUABLE. WHAT I HAD SORT OF BEEN LOOKING FOR WAS SOMETHING PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WHERE WE HAVE THIS WAS WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET BOOK. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO USE ARCHEOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY TO REACH ACROSS THE CITY AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY SPENT THIS SO THAT WE JUST SEE, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE WE'RE SPENDING IN OUR BUDGET. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING. AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE'VE SPENT THE MONEY, THERE'S NO MORE MONEY. SO YES. SO IF WE CAN JUST GET A SENSE OF BY THIS POINT IN THE YEAR, WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO SPEND THIS, WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT THIS. RIGHT? BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF A BUDGET. AND THIS IS A CITY GOVERNMENT. SO IF WE'RE OVERSPENDING ON NON-ESSENTIAL THINGS, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. I'LL HAVE THAT READY FOR YOU THE NEXT TIME AROUND. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY THOROUGH. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. WE HAVE TWO MORE PRESENTATIONS 
          [III.6. Update on Policing]
UNDER CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. JUST TO SEE HOW IT WAS LISTED HERE. OKAY. YEP. SO NEXT WE'LL 
          [02:35:07]
TALK ABOUT THE NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FORMAT. AND INTERIM DIRECTOR CARTWRIGHT IS ALREADY IN PLACE. I'M SORRY. CHIEF BUCHANAN IS HERE. CAN WE. IS IT OKAY IF WE MOVE THIS AND LET THE CHIEF GO FIRST? OKAY, OKAY. BECAUSE WE HAVE THE POLICE. COULD YOU JUST. MADAM MAYOR? YES. ITEM. HE'S GOING TO COME AND SPEAK ON. SURE. ITEM, THIS IS ITEM SIX. UPDATE ON POLICING. 
          HELLO, MADAM. MAYOR, COUNCIL PEOPLE, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY ALSO WELCOME THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL. I'M SHAWN BUCHANAN. I'M THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE EAST POINT POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS MY YEAR END OR YEAR BEGINNING. TALK ABOUT CRIME STATS WHERE WE'VE HAD THREE YEARS. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TODAY BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL ARE NEW. I KIND OF WANT TO GO IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO. SO WHEN I BECAME CHIEF, ONE OF OUR MISSION STATEMENTS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY OFFICER HAS TO KNOW, IS PROVIDE A SAFE COMMUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS TO FLOURISH AND OUR BUSINESSES TO PROSPER. THAT'S, TO ME, THE PURPOSE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SAFE AND OUR BUSINESS CAN MAKE SOME MONEY. OUR STANDARD IS BASED ON OUR MISSION STATEMENT. OUR MOTTO IS BE PROFESSIONAL TO OUR CITIZENS AND AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS CRIME. SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE GOALS AND WE TRY TO MEET THEM EVERY YEAR. BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS WE WANT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT IS TO ME, THE ESSENTIAL GOAL SHOULD BE FOR EVERY POLICE DEPARTMENT. BE PROFESSIONAL. WE ARE COMMITTED, COMMITTED TO SOLVING PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH INTEGRITY AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RELENTLESS FOLLOW UP. WE'RE GOING TO BE A LEADING PROFESSIONAL AGENCY IN TERMS OF HAVING A WELL TRAINED OFFICERS. WE WANT TO REDUCE CRIME EVERY YEAR. THIS YEAR, OUR GOAL IS TO BE CERTIFIED BY OCTOBER. CALEA CERTIFIED IS THE GOLD STANDARD OF POLICE CERTIFICATIONS, AND IT'S A NATIONAL CERTIFICATION. WE STARTED IN, I THINK, 18 OR 1906. 
          WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A NATIONAL CERTIFIED AGENCY. SO BUT THIS YEAR WE'LL HAVE IT. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS. SO WE HAD A COUPLE OBJECTIVES. BECAME CHIEF DECEMBER 6TH, 2021. 
          I'M KIND OF GO OVER WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS WE HAD TO INCREASE HIRING MORE OFFICERS. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS, IN THIS, DO IT THIS WAY. WE HAD TO INCREASE HIRING OF OFFICERS. WE WANT TO REDUCE OUR CRIME RATE. EVERY YEAR WE TRY TO MAKE THE CRIME RATE GO DOWN. WE WANT TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY DOING. AND WE ALSO WANT TO RESTRUCTURE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO A PRESENTATION. LORD HAVE MERCY. SO WE'RE GOING TO RESTRUCTURE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO OUR BUSINESS. THAT'S OUR OVERALL GOAL. THAT'S, TO ME, ANY GOOD BUSINESS GOAL, WE WANT TO REDUCE REDUNDANCY AND A LOT OF AREAS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE WERE REDUNDANT IN AREAS WE NEEDED TO BE REDUNDANT. WE WEREN'T. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE FOCUSED ON. QUALITY TRAINING TO ME, IS THE CENTRAL GOAL OF ANY POLICE CHIEF, BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO LAWSUIT IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS IS FAILURE TO TRAIN AND FAILURE TO SUPERVISE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED AND PROPERLY SUPERVISED. EMPOWERMENT AND 
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RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR OFFICERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I SAY ACCOUNTABILITY IS DONE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S HOLD OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I THINK THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY DESERVE THAT. SO SOMETHING THAT WAS BIG TO ME WAS HAVING LESS RANK. WE NEED MORE OFFICERS ON THE GROUND VERSUS HIGH RANKING PEOPLE. SO WHEN WE DID OUR RESTRUCTURE, ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO GO TO TEN HOUR SHIFTS. THAT ALLOWS OFFICERS TO BE OFF THREE DAYS AND WORK FOUR, AND MOST DEPARTMENTS ON 12 HOUR SHIFTS. I DON'T LIKE 12 HOURS. THERE'S SO MANY BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON THAT THIRD NIGHT BECAUSE OF SLEEP DEPRIVATION. SO WE FELT LIKE TEN HOURS WAS THE BEST GOAL. PLUS IT HELPED WITH OUR RETENTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS PRESENTATION, I JUST DO NOT KNOW. HOLD ON. 
          I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. 
          THAT'S SO WEIRD. IT'S THE SAME PRESENTATION. IT'S WORKING. 
          IT'S VERY WEIRD. BUT ANYWAY, ONE REASON WE WAS 40% SHORT IS BECAUSE OUR SALARY WAS LOW. OUR DEPARTMENT DIDN'T HAVE SAFE HOME CARS, AND THE BIGGEST THING IS WE DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT EQUIPMENT. THANKS TO YOU ALL INVESTING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, INCREASING OUR BUDGET. EVERYBODY HESITATES ON CAR. THAT'S MOSTLY DONE. WE GOT CARS ON THE WAY. OUR SALARIES HAVE TREMENDOUSLY INCREASED JUST BECAUSE OF THE RAISES, THE PAY STUDY. SO THANK YOU ALL. 
          AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST EQUIPMENT THAT YOU CAN BUY. THIS IS CRAZY. IT WASN'T I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IT WASN'T LIKE THIS TWO SECONDS AGO. SO OUR FIRST PRIORITY IN DECEMBER 2021, WE HAD 63 OFFICERS OUT OF 114. IN JANUARY 2024 TOOK SOME YEARS, BUT WE WENT TO 110 OFFICERS. 
          WE'RE FULLY STAFFED IN JULY OF 2024 AT 124 OFFICERS. WHEN WE COME TO JANUARY 25TH, WE ASKED FOR TEN MORE. OFFICERS CURRENTLY HAVE 120 OFFICERS AND WE WANT OFFICERS SHORT, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A COUPLE MORE OFFICERS BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE OFFICERS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOME MORE UNITS TO KIND OF REDUCE CRIME. SO A COUPLE ISSUES THAT WE HAD PRIOR IS OUR BRANDING. SO SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO IS REALLY HIT SOCIAL MEDIA HARD AND MAKE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT A BETTER AGENCY BY MAKING SURE WE IMPROVE OUR IMAGE. WE WANT PROMOTE SOME POSITIVITY. WE WANT TO DO CRIME PREVENTION TIPS, WE WANT TO OFFICERS TO MEET THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY TO MEET OUR NEW OFFICERS. WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT EVENTS AND ALSO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE WILL CONTINUE TO DOING. SO THIS IS FROM 2022 TO 2025. CURRENT. SO 2022 WAS A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR IN TERMS OF HOMICIDES. IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR OUT OF COVID. WE HAD 20 HOMICIDES. WE SOLVED 25 OF THE 28. THIS WAS REALLY A WEIRD YEAR BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD THAT MANY HOMICIDES IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY, BUT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WERE FAMILY MEMBERS, COUSINS, UNCLES, AUNTS, THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS. AND WHAT WAS DISTURBING ABOUT IT, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE HAD NEVER EVEN HAD A ARREST RECORD. THEY'D NEVER BEEN TO JAIL. SO WE DIRECTLY RELATED THAT TO COVID. WE HAD 269 AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, ALMOST 300 BURGLARIES, 71 ROBBERIES, VEHICLE BREAK INS WAS OVER A THOUSAND, AS YOU SEE IN VEHICLE THEFTS. THE FOLLOWING YEAR, 2023 EIGHT HOMICIDES, 242 AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, BURGLARIES WENT DOWN. OUR ROBBERIES HAD A SPIKE, VEHICLE BREAK INS WENT DOWN, AND OUR VEHICLE THEFTS HAD A HUGE SPIKE. SO COME LAST YEAR, HOMICIDE 2018, WE SAW 17 
          [02:45:03]
OR 18. OUR AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS HAD A 21% DECREASE. OUR BROTHER'S WENT DOWN ABOUT 3.5%. 
          OUR ROBBERIES HAD A 20% INCREASE. OUR VEHICLE THEFTS WENT DOWN 44%. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY FOCUSED ON BY PLACING OFFICERS IN ALL THESE AREAS WHERE WE HAD TROUBLES, OUR VEHICLE THEFTS WENT DOWN 43%. THIS YEAR. OUR HOMICIDES WENT DOWN TO TEN. WE SOLVED EVERY HOMICIDE WE HAD SEEN OUR TEN. THAT'S ABOUT A 55% DECREASE. OUR AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS WENT DOWN 9%, BROTHERS WENT DOWN 9%, OUR ARMED ROBBERIES 8%, FELL FROM VEHICLES WENT DOWN 50% DOWN TO 348, WHICH IS ABOUT LITTLE LESS THAN ONE A DAY. THEFT OF VEHICLES WENT DOWN 39%. IT SHOULD BE TO 70, BUT IT'S 39%. OUR RATE WENT DOWN ABOUT 19%. 
          WE ONLY HAD TWO STRANGER TO STRANGER RAPES. A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE RAPES, BUT NORMALLY IT'S A PERSON WHO KNOW EACH OTHER AND THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMEONE. SO LIKE A DATE RAPE, WE ALSO HAVE STATUTORY RAPES IN THAT CATEGORY. A STATUTORY RAPE IS WHEN A PERSON HAS SEX WITH A MINOR. SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED SEX RAPE. BUT WE INCLUDE THAT IN OUR CRIME STATS. SO OVERALL EVERY AREA OF IMPORTANCE IN TERMS OF MAJOR CRIMES HAD DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES OR RIGHT AT DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO A COUPLE THINGS. WE REALLY WANTED 100% CLEARANCE RATE ON HOMICIDES. THAT'S UNHEARD OF AROUND THE COUNTRY. OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTERS UP AND RUNNING. THEY ACTUALLY DOING SOME MORE WORK ON IT THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK. SO THAT'LL BE UP AND RUNNING BY NEXT MONTH. 
          COMPLETELY. IT'S UP AND RUNNING COMPLETELY NOW, BUT WE WANT TO DO SOME MORE INTEGRATIONS. WE DEPLOYED OVER 200 CITY CAMERAS LAST YEAR. BIG CRIME REDUCTION. OUR SCHOOLS OWN CAMERAS ARE UP AND OPERATING. WE STARTED THAT IN FEBRUARY. THIS PAST YEAR. WE PASSED OUR STATE CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS HUGE. WE PASSED OUR GCI AUDIT, WHICH IS ANOTHER HUGE HURDLE. FUZES INTEGRATION HAS TO DO WITH OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER THAT GIVES US PERMISSION TO VIEW OTHER BUSINESSES CAMERAS AND INTEGRATE THOSE CAMERAS INTO OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. THE BIGGEST THING WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THIS YEAR DURING CHRISTMAS AND THANKSGIVING BREAK. WE DON'T WANT ANY VIOLENT CRIMES HAPPENING IN OUR SHOPPING PLACE. SO LIKE THE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE, ANY SHOPPING AREA, WE HEAVILY STAFF THOSE AREAS AND WE HAD NO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AT ANY OF OUR SHOPPING AREAS. ALSO, ON ANY MAJOR CASE, THERE WAS ARREST OR WARRANT SIGNED. OUR MAJOR SUSPECTS. SO A COUPLE OF MAJOR PROJECTS COMPLETED. YOU ALL WAS KIND AND GAVE US A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REDO OUR EVIDENCE ROOM. THIS WAS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE A NATIONALLY ACCREDITED AGENCY. IT REALLY NEED TO BE REDONE TILL WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. IN JUNE, OUR NUMBER ONE CENTER HAD ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ALLOCATED TO REDO EVERYTHING THAT COMPLETED WAS AUGUST. WE HAVE OUR DRONES UP AND OPERATING AS WE SPEAK. WE HAVE SIX DRONES, THREE AT OUR MAIN PRECINCT, AND WE'RE WORKING ON A SECOND LOCATION, EITHER MICROSOFT OR THE TARGET LOCATION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW TO SEE WHAT'S THE BEST FACILITY OR THE BEST PLACE THEY CAN OPERATE OUT OF SOMETHING ELSE. WE'VE NEVER HAD A FULL SERVICE ANIMAL DOG BEFORE. WE HAVE A FULL SERVICE CANINE, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN POLICING. WE ALSO HAVE A BOMB DOG. WE WANT A BOMB DOG. WE HAVE SO MANY EVENTS. EVERY TIME WE HAD AN EVENT, WE USED TO HAVE TO OUTSOURCE A BOMB DOG. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING I FELT LIKE WE REALLY NEEDED TO INCREASE OUR SAFETY. AND LIKE I SAID, BY OCTOBER WE WILL HAVE OUR NATIONAL CERTIFICATION. 
          UPCOMING PROJECTS. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS A COMPREHENSIVE CHASE POLICY WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. WE STARTED ANOTHER UNIT CALLED SNOW, WHICH IS SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD OPERATIONS. AND THE REASON WE STARTED THIS IS BECAUSE OF FIFA, BECAUSE FIFA IS COMING, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE HAVING ISSUES AT WITH CRIME AND IT'S CAR BREAK INS AT OUR HOTELS. SO THESE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, THEY'LL BE DEDICATED TO JUST ENSURE THE SAFETY OF HOTELS AND NEIGHBORHOODS DURING THAT TIME SO WE CAN HAVE A PEACEFUL AND ENGAGING CONVERSATION WITH OUR TOURISTS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO GET A COUPLE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS BECAUSE WE CAN STAFF SOME OF THESE UNITS. WE ARE FULLY STAFFED, BUT I WANT TO BE FULLY STAFFED IN EVERY EVERY AREA OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE ABOUT 200 PEOPLE, WHICH MEANS OUR CRIME SCENE ARE NOW ONE OPERATORS, OUR JAIL, INCLUDING 
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OUR POLICE OFFICERS. SO WE'RE FULLY STAFFED IN POLICING. BUT I WANT OUR CRIME SCENE STAFF TO BE FULLY STAFFED. ALL OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE FULLY STAFFED, BUT I WANT EVERY AREA FULLY STAFFED. SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR GOALS. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOME BETTER RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED RIGHT NOW MORE CITY CAMERAS, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR REDUCTION OF CRIME. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO DO A QUICK TIME CHECK FOR A QUICK OKAY, I'M ALMOST DONE. WE'RE. OKAY. SO OUR NUMBER ONE OPERATIONS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RESPONSE TIMES AND CALLS, ONE OF MY GOALS WAS WE GOTTA REDUCE OUR RESPONSE TIME. WHEN PEOPLE CALL THE POLICE, A POLICE OFFICER NEEDS TO ARRIVE IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER. WE DON'T WANT POLICE NOT ARRIVING TIMELY. SO THIS IS OUR RESPONSE TIMES. BY THE YEARS 2022, OUR RESPONSE TIME WAS 13 MINUTES. WE HAD 83 CALLS FOR 83,000 CALLS FOR SERVICES 2023. WE DROPPED THE RESPONSE TIMES BY 2 MINUTES TO 11 MINUTES, AND WE HAD OVER 100,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE, 2024 HAD 121,000 CALLS. WE DROPPED TO EIGHT MINUTES. MY GOAL WAS 4 TO 5 MINUTES. THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD 119,000 CALLS. WE DROPPED OUR RESPONSE TIME TO SIX MINUTES. I WANT BETWEEN 4 AND 5 MINUTES. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. RED SPEED CAMERAS HAS BEEN A BIG CONTROVERSY. YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THOSE TICKETS COMING IN THE MAIL FROM THE SCHOOL ZONES. BUT SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS IS 88% OF THE DRIVERS ARE NOT EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS. LESS THAN 2% CONTESTED. CITATIONS. IT SHOULD BE 90%. DO NOT SPEED AGAIN. 
          SINCE PROGRAM STARTED FEBRUARY 2025, WE'VE HAD A LARGE SPIKE IN MARCH OF 2025, BUT IT'S BEEN TRENDING DOWN EVER SINCE. WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS WEEK I PURCHASED SOME AEDS AND WE WANT TO BASE ADS OR THOSE DEFIBRILLATORS. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM AWAY TO FOUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE IT'S WE'RE MAKING REVENUE FROM THE SCHOOLS ON CAMERAS. AND I JUST THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING FOR THE SCHOOLS. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT NEXT WEEK. I'M ALMOST DONE. 
          30S. SO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND MCGEE CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW CODE ENFORCEMENT WORKS, BUT INS IS INSPECTIONS FROM JANUARY TO MARCH AT 1500 INSPECTIONS, WE HAD GAVE 791 WARNINGS AND 791 CASES WAS RESOLVED. SECOND QUARTER 2685 INSPECTIONS, 1300 WARNINGS. ABOUT 1337 WAS RESOLVED FROM JULY TO SEPTEMBER 2000. INSPECTIONS, 1200 WARNINGS, 1300 WAS RESOLVED, AND THE LAST QUARTER WAS 1800. INSPECTIONS 1100 WARNINGS 1129 WERE RESOLVED, THE TOTAL INSPECTIONS 8000. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WARNINGS 4000 AND RESOLVE WAS FOR 4500. TOTAL CITATIONS GIVEN BY CODE LAST YEAR WAS 497, AND IT GENERATED ABOUT $84,000 IN FINES. AND THAT'S JUST SOME OF OUR PHILOSOPHY. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. I THINK MIKE WILL WANT TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK FOR TWO SECONDS ABOUT THE POLICE AND FIRE FOUNDATION, AND I'M DONE. 
          IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANK THANK YOU SO MUCH, IF YOU CAN. AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND MUCH SUCCESS WITH YOU IN THE POLICE FORCE. THEY SEEM TO BE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. WELL THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING WE'RE GOING TO KEEP TRYING. ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MY NAME IS MICHAEL SAINT CROIX. I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE A NEW ORGANIZATION TO YOU. WE ARE CALLED THE EASTPOINTE PUBLIC SAFETY FOUNDATION. I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT, AND I'M JOINED BY OUR SECRETARY, MICHELLE ROSSER, AND OUR TREASURER, TOM WARDLOW. WE WERE FOUNDED IN APRIL OF 2025, AND WE ARE OFFICIALLY REGISTERED WITH THE GEORGIA SECRETARY OF STATE AS A 500 1C3 NONPROFIT WITH A DEDICATED BANK ACCOUNT. THE FOUNDATION WAS CREATED TO FILL A VOID FROM THE DISSOLVEMENT OF THE FORMER EAST POINT POLICE AND FIRE AUXILIARIES, WHILE THOSE UNITS OPERATED AS SEPARATE ENTITIES WITH SEPARATE BOARDS AND BANK ACCOUNTS, WE COMBINED EFFORTS INTO A SINGLE FOUNDATION TO BETTER STREAMLINE SUPPORT FOR BOTH PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS. 
          I'D LIKE TO SHARE OUR MISSION STATEMENT SO YOU CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE AIM TO ACCOMPLISH. THE MISSION OF THE EAST POINT PUBLIC SAFETY FOUNDATION IS TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY WELL-BEING BY SUPPORTING THE CITY'S POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, PROMOTING 
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EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS, AND FOSTERING PARTNERSHIPS TO CREATE A SAFER, MORE POSITIVE AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL. ALTHOUGH WE ARE NEWLY FORMED, WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN INVOLVED WITH A FEW EVENTS, INCLUDING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN AUGUST, THE 2025 POLICE RETIREE HOLIDAY PARTY AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S SANTA RIDE ALONG TOY DRIVE. I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO CITY LEADERSHIP. YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SEE US AT CITY EVENTS AS WE GROW THE FOUNDATION, ATTRACT ADDITIONAL BOARD MEMBERS AND SUPPORTERS, AND RAISE COMMUNITY AWARENESS THAT WE ARE AVAILABLE. AS WITH MOST NONPROFITS, FUNDING IS A CHALLENGE. WE ARE ABLE TO ACCEPT CASH CHECKS, IN-KIND DONATIONS, AND VENMO CONTRIBUTIONS ON BEHALF ON BEHALF OF BOTH POLICE AND FIRE SO THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR IMPORTANT CITY BASED INITIATIVES. FOR EXAMPLE, UPCOMING INITIATIVES INCLUDE THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY AND THEN THE SUMMER SAFE CAMP WILL FOLLOW THAT. BOTH PROGRAMS DEPEND ON DONATIONS FROM RESIDENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. FUNDS RAISED ARE DEPOSITED INTO THE FOUNDATION ACCOUNT AND THEN WE DISTRIBUTE ACCORDINGLY. WE ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE GENEROUSLY SET UP BY LIEUTENANT MOORE FROM FIRE. PLEASE VISIT US AT. AND ON FACEBOOK. YOU CAN FIND US UNDER EASTPOINTE PUBLIC SAFETY FOUNDATION WHERE YOU WILL RECOGNIZE US BY OUR LOGO. WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LIKE AND FOLLOW OUR PAGE. AND IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE WHO HELPED US GET US OUT AND TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FROM POLICE CHIEF BUCHANAN, ASSISTANT CHIEF MCCULLOUGH AND CORPORAL COMBS FROM FIRE CHIEF THORNTON, CHIEF KENDRICK AND LIEUTENANT MOORE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ALONGSIDE THE CITY AND SEEING YOU ALL IN THE NEXT YEAR IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR. THANK YOU. 
          YES. YOUR QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER, THEN COUNCILMAN ROGERS, AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HENRY AND JOHN. THANK YOU. MY MY QUESTION IS FOR THE CHIEF. YES, YES. HI, CHIEF. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I REALLY APPRECIATED THE DETAILED ANALYSIS. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE QUITE A LOT IN IN YOUR TENURE HERE. QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          I'LL JUST TURN IT OFF. SO I BELIEVE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT GETTING A NEW 911 SYSTEM. YES. 
          DO YOU CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT. YES. SO CITY MANAGER PLACE IT IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. WE UNFORTUNATELY GROTESQUELY UNDER ESTIMATE THE COST. SO I'M TRANSFERRING THIS TO THIS BUDGET. AND WE HAVE OUR OWN 911 FUND. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR 911 FUND THAT WE GET FROM THE PHONE COMPANIES. FOR PEOPLE CALL 911 THAT FEE THEY ADD TO YOUR PHONE BILL. SO THAT WILL COVER THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO IMPACT THE CAPITAL BUDGET OR ANY CITY FUNDINGS. OKAY. AND WHEN I ATTEND ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS FOR WARD B, I HEAR TWO CONSISTENT CONCERNS KIND OF REPEATED. THE FIRST ONE IS SPEEDING IN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THE SECOND THING ARE SQUATTERS AND VACANT HOMES. CAN YOU GIVE US ANY KIND OF AN AN UPDATE OR INSIGHT OR PLAN TO TRY TO TACKLE THESE TWO COMPLICATED ISSUES? SO SPEEDY WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON AS WE SPEAK, WE'VE INCREASED NUMBERS IN OUR TRAFFIC UNIT, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THEY'RE WRITING A LOT OF CITATIONS. THE SQUATTER SITUATION UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS. BUT HERE'S THE ISSUE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START OUR 50 WORST PROPERTIES PROGRAM BECAUSE THERE'S ABOUT 200 HOMES. AND IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT CONTINUOUSLY THAT PEOPLE BOUGHT A HOUSE UP. IT'LL COME BACK DOWN, THEY'LL BOUGHT A HOUSE UP, IT'LL COME DOWN. SO WE NEED A LONG TERM SOLUTION. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING SOMETHING OUT TO GET OUR 50 WORST PROPERTIES BACK GOING. SO WE CAN STRONGLY ADDRESS THIS AND GET RID OF SOME OF THESE VACANT PROPERTIES. GOT IT. AND KNOWING THAT THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME COMING AND ALSO A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO RESOLVE. WHAT CAN WE DO TO SUPPORT YOU WHILE WE GET THAT PROGRAM BACK UP AND RUNNING? SO I WANT TO GET THE PROGRAM BACK RUNNING. THIS THE NUMBER ONE THING. BUT I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE FIRE WE HAD AND WE CHECKED THAT HOUSE FOUR DAYS PRIOR TO THAT FIRE. BUT THE NIGHT BEFORE PEOPLE SAW PEOPLE GOING INTO THE HOUSE, I'M LIKE, YOU HAVE TO CALL US AND LET US KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS COLD OUTSIDE, BUT OUR SHELTER WAS ALSO OPEN, AND WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE 
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STARTING FIRES AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE VACANT HOMES, TO STAY WARM WHEN WE CAN GIVE THEM A PLACE TO STAY WARM. AND THEY CAN ALSO NOT HAVE A FIRE IN A HOME. WE HAD, I THINK, 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER THIS, BUT A DAD AND TWO CHILDREN DIED BECAUSE THEY WAS IN A HOUSE AND THEY PUT ON A HEATER, THOSE PORTABLE HEATERS. SO WE DON'T WANT THOSE TYPE OF THINGS HAPPENING. SO I'LL ENCOURAGE, PLEASE, YOU HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE. THAT'S OUR JOB. WE GET 100,000 CALLS A YEAR. SOME ADDITIONAL CALLS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. PLEASE LET US KNOW. SO I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. AND THANK YOU. AND, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THE THE MICROPHONE SYSTEM SO IT CAN WE MAKE A NOTE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS HERE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF MIKES GOING IN AND OUT OR CITY MANAGER. IT SEEMS AS IF WHEN THE THE MIC, THERE'S A HAND RAISING FEATURE AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING PROPERLY. SO I'M LOSING COUNT AND TRACK OF WHO'S GOING FIRST AND NEXT. SO I KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT UPDATED SOMEWHERE IN THE TECHNOLOGY, PLEASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT, ACCORDING TO MY TRUSTY CHECKLIST HERE, WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS. ARE YOU NEXT FOR. SECOND? THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM MAYOR. CHIEF, COULD YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 13, PLEASE? YES. 
          WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT, AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I DO HAVE A QUESTION OF MR. MCGEE. MR. MCGEE, YOU DID PASS THESE OUT TO US, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. IS THIS LIKE A QUICK GO TO GUIDE FOR ALL OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS? YES, SIR. THAT IS SCARY. GOOD EVENING. I'M SUPERVISOR MCGEE. MADAM MAYOR, NEW COUNCILS. I'M SUPERVISOR MCGEE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. YES. ON THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION. THIS IS OUR MOST COMMON VIOLATION THAT WE WE USE WHEN WE'RE OUT, IN, OUT IN THE FIELD, WORKING EVERY DAY FOR TALL GRASS, DERELICT VEHICLES, VACANT STRUCTURE MAINTENANCE. IF THE ROOF NEED TO BE REPLACED, WE CIRCLE THAT. I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU GET THAT TARP ON TOP OF YOUR HOUSE AND BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE, YOU'RE WAITING ON AN INSURANCE TO TO COME IN AND GIVE YOU, GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY TO GET THE ROOF DONE. SO WE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS ON HERE WE, WE USE THAT WE WILL LEAVE AT THE RESIDENCE. THE REASON I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE HEAVILY SKEWED TOWARD RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, RIGHT? YES. AND THERE ARE A TON, A TON OF COMMERCIAL VIOLATIONS ACROSS THE CITY. SO WHEN WE SEE THIS AND WHEN I SEE THIS AND WHEN I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, OFTENTIMES THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING PICKED ON. 
          SO WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE TALL GRASS, I'VE EVEN HAD RESIDENTS TO TAKE PHOTOS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WITH A MEASURING TAPE MEASURING GRASS WHILE THEY'VE DRIVEN PAST TONS OF COMMERCIAL VIOLATIONS. SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE CITY PRIORITIZES RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL VIOLATIONS. SO THIS QUICK SORT OF GO TO GUIDE SEEMS TO BE HEAVILY, HEAVILY FOCUSED ON RESIDENTIAL. AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS ALSO COMPLAIN THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL VIOLATIONS. WE'RE WE'RE USING IT FOR RESIDENTIAL ALSO FOR COMMERCIAL ALSO FOR THE TALL GRASS WELL CIRCUIT. WE'LL WRITE THE ADDRESS OF THE BUSINESS AND WE'LL PUT A SLASH IN WHAT BUSINESS IT IS. SO THEN THE OFFICER WILL KNOW THAT IT WILL WALMART, MCDONALD'S. SO WE WILL WRITE ON HERE WHAT IT IS. IT'S A COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. 
          THAT LEADS TO MY OTHER QUESTION REGARDING CODE ENFORCEMENT. SYLVAN ROAD, A WRECKAGE JUNKYARD. THEY HAVE MOVED OUT. I KNOW FOR SURE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT BEING UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, VEHICLES DRIVE UP AND DOWN SILVER ROAD ALL THE TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT PLACE, BUT I DROVE OVER THERE TO TAKE PHOTOS THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT 
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ACCEPTABLE. THEY LEFT CAR PARKS. THE THE SCREEN IS DOWN. AN OLD RECORD IS SITTING THERE AND THEY'VE GOT A BIG OLD SIGN UP FOR LEASE. IT IS VERY FIRST. IT'S THE VERY FIRST BUSINESS AS YOU ENTER THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. AND SO WHAT THAT SAYS IS THIS IS WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO US, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE. AND IF THERE'S A BIG SIGN FOR LEASE, THERE'S A REALTOR'S NUMBER, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. OUR CITY SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THAT WE HAVE TO DRIVE BY THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY TO GO HOME. AND THERE'S CAR PARTS STREWN ALL OVER THE PLACE. THAT, TO ME, WOULD BE A VIOLATION. SO HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN TAKEN THAT VIOLATION AND HAVE ANY ACTION AROUND IT? YES, SIR. I MADE CONTACT. EXCUSE ME. 
          CHIEF CALLED ME SATURDAY ON THAT. CAME OUT ON YESTERDAY. WENT UP THERE ON SEVEN ROAD. I CALLED MR. STEVE. I CAN'T THINK OF HIS LAST NAME I CALLED HIM, HE CALLED ME BACK TODAY. HE GOING TO NOTIFY THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS TO GO AND CLEAN THE THE UP. BACK IN DECEMBER, WE DID GIVE THE OWNER A NOTICE OF VIOLATION FOR THE OPP FENCING. WE HAD ALL THE CARS UP THERE, THE DERELICT VEHICLES UP THERE BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED DOWN, BUT THE CARS IS GONE. BUT I GUESS AS THEY WERE TAKING AWAY THE BUMPERS, THE FRONT BUMPER, THE BACK BUMPER WAS FALLING OFF THE VEHICLES AND SO THEY LEFT ME IN THE PARKING LOT. SO I DID MAKE CONTACT WITH WITH THE AGENT TODAY TO HAVE THE OWNER COME OUT THERE AND DO THE REPAIRS TO THAT PROPERTY. SO ARE THERE ANY IN ADDITION TO THAT WARNING? I GUESS IT SOUNDS LIKE, ARE THERE ANY CITATIONS WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO IT? LIKE HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE TO BE SUBJECTED TO THIS? WE WILL BE ISSUING A CITATION BY NEXT WEEK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT CLEANED UP BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, WE WILL CONTACT HIM THAT MEET US HERE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ISSUE A CITATION FOR FOR THE OUTSIDE STORY, FOR JUST LEAVING CAR PARTS EVERYWHERE ON THAT PROPERTY, AND THEN THE OPP FENCING AND THE STUFF IN THERE, AND THEN REPAIR THE FENCING. SO HE WILL BE GETTING MULTIPLE CITATION BY NEXT WEEK, SIR. OKAY. JUST ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE AGAIN, IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE CALLS THAT I GET, A LOT OF RESIDENTS COMPLAIN THAT THERE'S SO MANY COMMERCIAL VIOLATIONS AND THEY'RE FEELING VERY PICKED ON BECAUSE OF A RAINY SEASON AND HIGH GRASS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. YES, SIR. SO I'M ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS FOR THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MCGEE. YES, SIR. AND, COUNCILMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I SAW THAT ON SATURDAY AND I WAS ALREADY CONCERNED BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS. MISS ZIEGLER, COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER KNOWS THAT. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING I DID IS WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THIS? I WALKED, YOU KNOW, I WAS COMING TO THE CITY. 
          I'M LIKE, THIS HAS TO GO IMMEDIATELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHIEF, ARE WE ON FIVE MINUTE RULE FOR FIVE MINUTE RULE FOR THIS DEBATE? I DON'T THINK WE THINK WE TURNED IT ON. OKAY, WELL. THAT'S I GET YOU. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. YOU SAID YOU CAN'T TURN ON THE LIGHT. OKAY, SO PRESENTATION AGENDA. SO RIGHT. FOR SO FOR THIS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD FOR THE REST OF THIS MEETING. ALL OF THE AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE A FIVE MINUTE COUNCIL DISCUSSION TIME. SO WHEN THE COUNCIL PERSON STARTS TO SPEAK CAN WE START THE TIMER AT FIVE? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS OVER UNDER OKAY OKAY OKAY. SO, COUNCILWOMAN. YES, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WANT TO SHARE THE DAUGHTER OF A NEW YORK CITY POLICE OFFICER AND A911 OPERATOR. SO I KNOW THAT THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO IS VERY HARD. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS MEETING, BUT I KNOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POLICING STRATEGY. I NOTICED THAT'S ONE OF YOUR ITEMS. AT SOME POINT, COULD YOU RETURN AND SHARE WITH US SOME OF THOSE THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, PARTICULARLY WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN IS AROUND THE ANTI-RETALIATION EFFORTS. I'VE JUST RECENTLY LEARNED SOME THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN BALTIMORE, ATLANTA, CHICAGO, DC THAT PROBABLY WILL WORK HERE AND YOU'RE PROBABLY ALREADY WORKING ON, BUT I HOPE WE CAN HEAR ABOUT IT AT SOME POINT. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE CREDIT CARD. OH, I DIDN'T SEE YOU. ARE YOU? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY, CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO. I RECENTLY HAD A NEIGHBOR THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CITIZENSHIP LEADERSHIP 
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ACADEMY. THE POLICE ACADEMY? YES. YEAH, BUT THE CITY USED TO DO AN ACADEMY AT ONE POINT. BUT SHE DID SPEAK VERY, VERY HIGHLY ABOUT THAT. WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW WAS, IS THE CAMP CREEK MARKETPLACE SUBSTATION. IS IT FULLY STAFFED THAT STAFF. AND SO YES, IT IS. WE HAVE SOMEONE THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BUT I STILL WANT MORE OPERATIONAL HOURS ON THERE. WE ALSO HAVE OPENED UP THE EAST SIDE PRECINCT, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 3100 WASHINGTON ROAD. THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS WE NEED TO DO, BUT THAT'LL BE FULLY STAFFED BY FEBRUARY. WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE INTERNET WORKING SO WE CAN HAVE OFFICERS ACTUALLY COMING IN AND WORK, AND THAT'LL BE DONE AS WELL. AND I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW THAT AS POLICE OFFICERS ARE OUT IN COMMUNITIES, I NOTICE IT OFTENTIMES WHEN I'M IN THE MALL OR JUST IN A NEIGHBORING AREA. HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT MOTORIZED SCOOTERS? SO THAT I MEAN, JUST EVEN IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO PATROL? I SEE THAT QUITE OFTEN. AND THAT'S JUST A QUESTION THAT I HAD. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. GO AHEAD. I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THAT. SO WE JUST ORDERED LIKE A POLICE VEHICLE. WE'RE GOING TO START USING THAT UTILIZING THE MARKETPLACE. WE HAVE BIKES. 
          IT'S JUST BEEN KIND OF COLD. WE HAVEN'T STARTED USING IT'S COLD OUT THERE. SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN RIDING THE BIKES. BUT WE ALSO HAVE GOLF CARTS WE CAN USE ON MAIN STREET. SO YOU WILL SEE US DOING A LOT MORE. WE ALSO GET SOME MOTORCYCLES, THE VISIBILITY THAT MOTORCYCLES HAVE AND THEY ALSO HELP WITH TRAFFIC. IN TERMS OF SPEEDING, THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR US AS WELL. ALRIGHT. AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO THANK OFFICER MCGEE, THE CONSTITUENTS OF WARD D, A PLUS JOB AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT THIS HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT A WAY TO KEEP YOUR PEOPLE. AND I KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. I DID THE RESEARCH ON IT. BROOKHAVEN AND DUNWOODY OFFER INCENTIVES FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO LIVE INSIDE THEIR CITY. SO AS WE'RE HAVING TALKS ABOUT THE BUDGET AS FAR AS HOUSING, I KNOW THAT I THINK IT'S BROOKHAVEN GIVES $1,000. DUNWOODY ENCOURAGES HOME OWNERSHIP, AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE INTENTIONAL IN OUR EFFORTS TO GET RESIDENTS INTO HOMES OR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL INTO HOMES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I AGREE, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. I KNOW COUNCILMAN HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SLIDE 13. YOU CAN TEXT ME OR EMAIL ME, BUT I THINK I KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. OKAY. WELL SO IT'S 13 SLIDES 13 AND 15 IS ILLEGAL DUMPING. AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT JUST A LITTLE BIT BEFORE. AND LITERALLY JUST TODAY I'VE GOTTEN MESSAGES ABOUT DUMPING ON WOODBERRY AGAIN. AND WE HAVE CAMERAS. SO I'LL CHECK OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. ALRIGHT. SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO CIRCLE ONE QUICK QUESTION. SURE. FOR THE ONE WHO RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT SHOW SIGNS, PLEASE EMAIL ME YOUR POLITICAL SIGNS. 
          IF NOT, THEY WILL BE DISCARDED NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE CITY. 
          [II.4. Presentation on New Capital Improvement Format]
BACK TO THE PRESENTATION SECTION FOR CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I'M GOING TO ASK MISS CARTWRIGHT TO TO COME BACK UP AND AND WALK US THROUGH THE NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FORMAT. SO EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A, A WORKING DRAFT OF OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FORMAT. THIS IS SOMETHING NEW FOR THE CITY. AND I'LL LET. MISS CARTWRIGHT WALK US THROUGH THAT. GIVE HER A CHANCE TO SET THOSE THINGS UP. I THINK I WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF A THUNDER AWAY, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE QUALITIES OF PRESENTING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THIS FASHION WILL ALLOW MAJOR PROJECTS TO BE TRACKED BY BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENRY. YEAH. HELLO AGAIN. COUNCIL MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE NEW WORKING DRAFT OF OUR CIP, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY HARD GETTING THIS DONE. WE REALLY WANTED TO TO MAKE IT TRANSPARENT TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE MAYOR, AS WELL AS TO THE PUBLIC. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR OUR CAPITAL BOOK IS GOING TO, OF COURSE, HAVE A TABLE OF 
          [03:15:02]
CONTENTS. AND THEN ALSO WE WANT TO PRESENT A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IT'S GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE PIE CHART AS FAR AS EACH DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THAT. SO THIS DOWN HERE IS THE 27 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AS OF TODAY. THEN EACH DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE A PAGE DESIGNATED FOR THEMSELVES AS FOR A FIVE YEAR PLAN. AND THEN INCLUDE THE PROJECTS. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT AS COUNCIL, FOR ME, I WANTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS ARE OUT THERE. SO I DO HAVE A WARD AREA RIGHT HERE AND THE I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT AREA AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE GET FILLED IN. 
          SO THIS FORMAT, IT REALLY IS GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE PROJECT NAME IS. THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING THIS FOR THIS EXAMPLE, IT'S FLEET AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE FUEL MASTER FUEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO REALLY ALLOW YOU TO HONE IN AND SEE EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING AND, AND FIND YOUR OWN INITIATIVE AS FAR AS WHAT YOUR PRIORITY AS WELL. AND SO THAT THAT WILL HELP US AS THE ADMINISTRATION FOLLOW YOUR WHAT YOUR VISION IS. AND EACH EACH DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE THIS SPECIFIC FORM. SO IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY IN DEPTH AND GIVE YOU SOME PRETTY GOOD INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW BEHIND. 
          IT'S PRETTY SHORT AND SWEET. I THINK I GAVE YOU A COPY SO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THERE. THERE IS ONE DEPARTMENT THAT'S MISSING. IT'S PRETTY IN DEPTH, SO I'M WORKING WITH THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD TO GET THAT INFORMATION IN THERE. THE THE VALUE THOUGH IS STILL THE SAME. I DID BRING IN THAT INFORMATION. I JUST WASN'T ABLE TO BRING THE DEPARTMENT PROJECTS IN YET. AND THIS IS JUST A WORKING DRAFT, BUT IT'LL BE PART OF THE THE OVERALL BUDGET BOOK. SO OUR GOAL JUST PICKING UP ON OUR BUDGET TIMELINE, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THIS TO YOU. PLEASE GO THROUGH IT. WE DO NOT THINK THAT WE HAVE ALL THE PROJECTS CAPTURED AT THIS POINT. SO IF THERE'S PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL ARE INTERESTED IN THAT YOU DIDN'T FIND, PLEASE SUBMIT THOSE. WE'LL BE FINE TUNING THIS, FEELING IT MORE OUT AND GETTING MORE DETAILS AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE CLOSE TO A CLOSER TO A FINAL DRAFT. I'M STILL USING THE WORD DRAFT BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ALL THE WAY UP TO AROUND APRIL 20TH. AT THAT TIME. THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET, AND WE'LL WANT TO HAVE THE CIP PRETTY WELL IN PLACE. BUT THEN KEEP IN MIND THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS ALSO JUST THAT, JUST A RECOMMENDED BUDGET. AND SO THERE WILL BE FEEDBACK FROM CITY COUNCIL FROM THE 20TH OF APRIL ONTO, I THINK, WHAT WAS THE THE DUE DATE TO ACTUALLY GET THE JUNE 1ST. YES. SO SO THEY'LL STILL BE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THERE. SO THERE'S ROOM TO STILL ADD THINGS TO THIS. BUT WE WANT TO GET THE THE BASE OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHILE YOU DIGEST IT. WE'LL ASK FOR AFFIRMATION ON THE 20TH. AGAIN, THAT'S STILL AFFIRMATION OF A DRAFT. AND BUT THEN WE'LL START START FOCUSING ON THE OPERATIONS BUDGET. SO I KNOW WE HAD TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IN THE EARLIER PRESENTATION ABOUT THE EVENTS. I WANTED TO JUST LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT OUR FIRST SIT DOWN WITH OUR OUR OPERATION BUDGET WITH DEPARTMENTS WILL BE HAPPENING FROM JANUARY 20TH 1ST TO FEBRUARY 8TH. THAT PROCESS, WE GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE BY LINE, AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO PICK OUT THINGS, SAY THAT ARE CONNECTED TO, SAY, WEDNESDAY, WYANDOTTE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL THOSE ITEMS OUT FULLY, CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE BEHIND EACH ONE OF THOSE LINE ITEMS. SO I JUST JUST WANTED TO TO KIND OF FOLLOW BACK UP ON THAT. 
          WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE, EVEN THOUGH ALL THE NUMBERS AREN'T ALL FIGURED OUT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT THIS IS PART OF THAT. THIS IS A TRAILER. THE PLOT OF THE MOVIE IS YET TO UNFOLD. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE YOU ALONG WITH THE JOURNEY OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE NEXT PIECE ON THE PRESENTATION THAT I WANTED TO GIVE WAS THE FISCAL OUTLOOK AND ASSUMPTIONS OF UNCERTAINTIES, PART ONE. THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF A TWO PART 
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SERIES. I CAN DO THAT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION B, PART ONE, PART TWO. SO IT WOULDN'T REALLY STOP THE CONTINUITY OF THIS PROCESS IF WE WANTED TO BYPASS THE. THERE'S THAT THAT MICROPHONE ISSUE AGAIN, BUT BYPASS THE FUTURE OUTLOOK TO BE ADDED TO THE PART TWO, WHICH WAS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 9TH. ANYWAY. THANK YOU. SO DO WE HAVE A WE NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THE LAST PRESENTATION TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION AGENDA. THE PROPOSED THAT. IS THAT THE ASK? IS THERE NECESSARY ACTION THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN ON THAT. RIGHT. THAT'S SO WE DO HAVE DISCUSSION FOR THE ITEM THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED. OKAY. SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO ONCE WE GET TO WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED CITY MANAGER'S, THEN WE'LL GO TO MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THAT ONE TO A NEXT WORK SESSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IN THIS ORDER I HAVE COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL, COUNCILMAN ATKINS, COUNCILMAN AND COUNCILWOMAN DOCTOR ROGERS, IS THIS OKAY? SO I ACTUALLY NO LONGER HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. LAST. ALL RIGHT. SO. OKAY. OKAY. JUST A VERY GOOD QUESTION, MISS CARTWRIGHT. I SEE THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT NOW ARE TOTALING ABOUT $47 MILLION FOR FY 27, AND THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. AND SO OBVIOUSLY, I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT LIKE, HOW DO WE PAY FOR THESE THINGS. THE FACT THAT WE DID RETIRE THE CAMP CREEK TAD. AND WHEREAS THAT INCREMENT WAS GOING INTO A SPECIAL FUND, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT AMOUNT WAS LAST TAX SEASON AND WHAT WE MAY NOW BE GETTING IN ADDITION INTO OUR GENERAL FUND? SO I'LL HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT AND THEN I CAN GET YOU GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE GO A LONG WAY TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. LET ME JUST SCROLL UP REAL QUICK BECAUSE I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK. SO WE HAVE. OUR GENERAL FUND IS AT ABOUT 12 MILLION, 12 MILLION. 
          SO AND THEN WITH WITH THE WATER AND SEWER THEN THOSE ARE BROKEN DOWN. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL. SO I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. 
          AND IN AN EMAIL I CAN SEND IT TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL AS WELL. SURE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FREELY. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. REAL SIMPLE QUESTION IN THIS BOOK. HOW IS IT ORGANIZED? SO IF I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING I WANT TO SUBMIT ISN'T ALREADY HERE, HOW DO I DO THAT? SO, COUNCILMAN FREELY IT IS BEING. I DO HAVE TO PUT AN INDEX IN THERE, A TABLE OF CONTENTS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT FORMAT OF WHAT WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW. IT'S IN I THINK IT'S BY DEPARTMENT. SO I CAN PROBABLY GET YOU SOME BETTER INFORMATION ON HOW TO FIND IT, DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT. SO IT IS IT'S BROKEN BY DEPARTMENT. SO LET ME SEND YOU SOMETHING SO THAT IT'S EASY TO FIND ON ON WHICH PAGES. OKAY. YEAH. I JUST I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY HERE, AND I JUST CAN'T FIND IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? ARE YOU OKAY FOR US TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. OKAY. 
          COUNCILWOMAN HEMMINGS, THANK YOU, MISS CARTWRIGHT, FOR THIS. I. MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE ORGANIZATION. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S REPRESENTED BY THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOME OTHER GEOGRAPHY LIKE WARDS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. TO ADD THAT DETAIL TO THE PAGE. WHEN YOU CONSIDERED DEVELOPING THE TABLE CONTENT. TABLE OF CONTENTS AND FRONT MATTER. WOULD YOU CONSIDER SOME SORT OF LIKE NARRATIVE OR INSTRUCTION WHEREBY WE CAN EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE, OH, THIS IS HOW YOU GO LOOK UP DETAILS ABOUT YOUR AREA, OR THIS IS HOW YOU MIGHT LOOK UP X, Y, AND Z. THE TABLE OF CONTENTS I THINK IS HELPFUL, BUT ALSO IF YOU CAN DICTATE WHAT IT IS, HOW A PERSON WOULD USE THIS BOOK, I THINK IT WILL HELP QUITE TREMENDOUSLY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS. ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS. THANK YOU. AND AS I STATED EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION PRIOR TO COMING TO A MEETING. I BELIEVE THAT IS PART OF OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA POLICY, AND THAT WOULD JUST KIND OF HELP US FRAME OR GET THE QUESTIONS 
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WRITTEN DOWN. I JUST RECEIVED THE BOOKLET, SO I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I WOULD JUST PREFER THAT WE FOLLOW OUR WORK SESSION POLICY, IN WHICH THIS INFORMATION IS A PART OF OUR PACKET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THE FINAL ITEM ON THE PRESENTATION SECTION, THE 
          [II.5. Fiscal Outlook: Assumptions and Uncertainties - Part 1]
FISCAL OUTLOOK, ASSUMPTIONS AND UNCERTAINTIES OF PART ONE. MR. CITY MANAGER, YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE THIS ONE TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. ARE GOING. MOVING ON TO NUMBER. I THINK THIS IS NUMBER SEVEN, THE CITY CREDIT CARD 
          [Items III.7. & III.8. ]
POLICY AND TRAVEL POLICY. AND NUMBER EIGHT, THE CITY CREDIT CARD PAYMENT REIMBURSEMENT AND REPORTING. COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS TEAM. WE HAD JUST MADE A DECISION BEFORE THAT THESE TWO ITEMS WOULD TRAVEL TOGETHER. BUT I THINK THAT PERHAPS MR. CITY MANAGER MISS CARTWRIGHT MAY HAVE AN UPDATE TO PROVIDE TO US. IS THAT CORRECT? DO WE HAVE ANY ANY NEW INFORMATION WE HAD TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT? PURCHASE CARDS VERSUS CREDIT CARDS, AND LOOKING INTO SOME VENDORS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR US. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY NEW UPDATES THAT YOU MAY SHARE WITH US. YES. SO WE WILL HAVE A FEW BANKS COME IN ON FEBRUARY 9TH SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ON THE THE WHEEL REGIONS WILL BE COMING IN TO GIVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE CREDIT CARDS THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. SO THERE IS A COMMERCIAL CARD THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE USING A SMALL BUSINESS CARD, AND SO WE WANT HIM TO COME IN SO THAT HE CAN TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL CARD. IT'S IT'S KIND OF A P CARD IF YOU WILL. AND IT'S GOT THAT THAT KIND OF STYLE SET UP. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR US BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT GOING TO ALLOW US TO, IT'S GOING TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO HAVE THEIR OWN APP ON THEIR PHONE. YOU CAN SEE YOUR YOUR YOUR STATEMENT. EVERYTHING WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE USING TECHNOLOGY AS WE SHOULD BE. AS FAR AS LIKE THE STATEMENTS, YOU WON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO COME IN THE MAIL. IT'LL BE ONE BILL, SO WE'LL BE MAKING ONE PAYMENT AND YOU WON'T COME IN TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW. AS FAR AS IF A BILL DOESN'T GET PAID. AND SO THE GOAL IS TO KIND OF AUTOMATE THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SEND A CHECK EVERY MONTH. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE PAYMENT OVER THROUGH THE EFT, OKAY. AND IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WILL BE A P CARD. RIGHT. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SET UP ANY OF THE CUSTOMIZATIONS IN TERMS OF IF YOU DON'T SUBMIT YOUR RECEIPTS CORRECT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THEN YOUR ACCESS TO THE CARD. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THERE'S ANOTHER BENEFIT TO THIS PROGRAM THEY ACTUALLY HAVE. LIKE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT CONCUR BEFORE. SO THEY ALSO HAVE AN APP AND FOR FOR A REASON IT'S FREE. SO WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO UPLOAD OUR RECEIPTS ONTO THAT APP. AND THEN IT'LL COME TO OUR BILLING SYSTEM. OKAY. SO THAT'S CREDIT CARD. WHAT ABOUT TRAVEL? ANY UPDATES ON THE TRAVEL POLICY? WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES YET. I KNOW CITY MANAGER WAS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT WITH THE BUDGET GOING ON WE HAD NO UPDATES HAVE BEEN MADE AS FAR AS THAT. YEAH. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET AND YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY BUSY AND ABOVE YOUR HEAD AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GOTTA DO FOR BUDGET, WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE COULD EXPECT UPDATES ON TRAVEL? WELL, I, I KNOW WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE WE'LL BE HOT UNTIL APRIL. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, TO BE HONEST. BUT THAT BEING SAID IN THE PACKET, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY REGARDING TO THE CREDIT CARD PORTION OF IT. I THINK THE TRAVEL PORTION WAS PRETTY CLOSE. 
          THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ON THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT COULD BE UNDER A TRAVEL POLICY. A TRAVEL CARD WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, BUT I IT FELT LIKE THAT THE TRAVEL POLICY WAS CLOSER THAN THE CREDIT CARD POLICY. AND I THINK THE CREDIT CARD POLICY, AGAIN, THERE WAS THERE'S A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY ATTORNEY, FROM FROM CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I HAVE A MEMO ON THERE. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO EQUATE YOURSELF, PARTICULARLY IN THE NEW COUNCILS, WITH THE MEMO, THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION, FRANKLY, IS THE GENERAL, THE GEORGIA MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION. BUT ON POLICY WITH THE CAVEAT 
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OF OF HOW DO WE WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC INSPECTION. AND SO THERE WAS RECOMMENDATION, I HAD THAT ALL CHARGES BASICALLY COME FORWARD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL ITEMS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THEY FELT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS QUESTIONABLE OR THERE WAS A RECEIPT NOT PRESENTED, AND THEY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT CHARGE, THEY COULD PULL THAT OFF, GIVE OPPORTUNITY TO GET RESPONSE FROM FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, PUT IT BACK ON CONSENT AGENDA. IT WOULD BE APPROVED. I HAVE EXAMPLES OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THAT. IT DOESN'T TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE MOST CHARGES ARE PRETTY MUNDANE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. BUT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. I WAS ASKED AT THAT TIME TO GIVE MY RECOMMENDATION. STAFF HAS DONE EVERYTHING ON IT. I THINK IT'S REALLY, AT THIS POINT, UP FOR COUNCIL TO DEBATE WHAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. THANK YOU. ARE YOU IS THERE A CALL FOR A MOTION FOR I THINK I THINK IF FOR ACTION ITEM, IF WE TO WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE BRING IT BACK UNTIL APRIL. BUT I THINK HONESTLY THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE WE CAN CLARIFY. I THINK THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE THE LAST TOUCH POINTS WERE THAT WAS MAYBE HOLDING UP THIS. THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF KIND OF A RUNNING ITEM, BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK THERE WAS MUCH MORE THAT STAFF COULD OFFER. WE PRETTY MUCH PRETTY MUCH PROVIDED AS MUCH AS THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. AS FAR AS RESEARCH AND SUGGESTIONS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. NEXT, COUNCILMAN ERIC FREEMAN. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS WAS ASKING ABOUT AND WHAT YOU WERE JUST ADDRESSING. THESE HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA SINCE MAY OF 24, AND WE'VE GOT A TON OF INFORMATION ALREADY PULLED TOGETHER BY MISS CARTWRIGHT. MR. JONES, FELLOW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING MORE THAT'S GOING TO COME DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THIS ITEM FROM WORK SESSION TO AN AGENDA, AND WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO NEED TO FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH THE DOCUMENTATION, BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THERE. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS. THIS SHOULD NOT BE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK, SO I WOULD URGE PEOPLE TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS, DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE, WHAT YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, WHAT YOU NEED FROM THE CITY MANAGER, AND LET'S VOTE THESE THINGS UP OR DOWN SOON. THAT WOULD BE MY URGING. IF SOMEONE IS PREPARED TO MOVE IT TO A COUNCIL AGENDA THIS EVENING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME, I UNDERSTAND, BUT AGAIN, IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SO THANKS. IN THAT CASE I'LL MOVE IT TO THE. CONSENT OF COUNCIL. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. CAN WE MOVE IT TO A. WE KNOW THEY'RE IN FOR DISCUSSION. SO WE JUST HAVE TO SPEAK OUT LOUD. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION IS WITH COUNCILMAN FREHLEY'S QUESTION OR PROPOSED, IS THERE AN ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW IN THIS MEETING FOR IT TO BE MOVED OR ADDED TO THE WORK SESSION? I WASN'T MAKING A MOTION. I WAS URGING ACTION AT SOME POINT SOON. I MEAN, I DON'T MIND MAKING A MOTION, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE DO HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT MY POINT IS SIMPLY THIS IS REACHING LEVELS OF ABSURDITY TO KEEP PUSHING IT EVERY MONTH, MONTH AFTER MONTH. SO THIS WAS NOT A MOTION TO REQUIRE ANY ACTION UNLESS OTHERS WANT TO DO THAT. SO. DO YOU HAVE YOU'RE ACTUALLY NEXT ON THIS? YES. THANK YOU. AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY. YES. IT HAS BEEN ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BUT WE DO HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. IN THE LAST TIME I LOOKED THROUGH THE CREDIT CARD POLICY, I HAD THE OLD POLICY. AND SO I HAD MADE SOME 
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RECOMMENDATIONS. I JUST WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT ONE MORE TIME, BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING NOW THAT I NEED CLARIFICATION ON MR. CITY MANAGER, IS WE'RE GOING TO UPLOAD OUR RECEIPTS TO THE AGENDA. IS THAT I MEAN, DID HE MENTION THAT? AND COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHETHER IT COMES ON OR OFF. LIKE I JUST NEED THE CORRECT POLICY. I'M GOING TO ENSURE THAT I HAVE THE POLICY AND I'LL GO THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME. BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A P CARD AND A CREDIT CARD? YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT RECEIPTS BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA. SO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO NOT TO TO GO TO BACK, BUT WE KIND OF THE PURCHASING CARD PORTION OF IT IS THE MECHANICS OF HOW YOU WOULD ACTUALLY UTILIZE YOUR CARD. AND IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE VISA OR, OR CREDIT CARD THAT YOU'RE USED TO. SO THAT PIECE IS, IS A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE. WHAT THE UNIQUENESS OF THAT VERSUS A TRADITIONAL CREDIT CARD IS THAT IT GIVES FLEXIBILITY TO CUSTOMIZE THOSE SERVICES TO VARIOUS LEVELS OF REVIEW. SO WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT EASIER TO CUT CARDS OFF, CUT CARDS ON FOCUS, CARDS ON ONLY TRAVEL, FOCUSED CARDS ON A VARIOUS NUMBERS OF ITEMS. PART OF THOSE SERVICES ALSO ALLOW US THE, I WANT TO SAY, UNPRECEDENTED. IT IS UNPRECEDENTED TO OUR ORGANIZATION, BUT ALLOWS US TO GET REPORTING AND AND THE SERVICES IS NOT AS CLUNKY AS OUR OUR CURRENT PROCESS. SO MEMBERS WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR, THEIR EXPENDITURES ON A VERY EASY AS FREQUENT AS YOU NEED TO. THOSE COULD ALSO BE PRESENTED IN A FINANCE REPORT AT AT COUNCIL ONCE A MONTH THAT SHOW ALL OF THOSE CHARGES. IF THERE'S CHARGES THAT RAISES SOME INTEREST, THOSE CHARGES COULD BE PUT DOWN. AND THAT THIS IS THIS WAS PART OF MY RECOMMENDATION WHEN I WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE SOME SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON HOW A PUBLIC PROCESS LOOKED, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION THAT IT DIDN'T IT DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER BE POLICING CARDS FOR POLICY MAKERS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS HIS BOSS. SO THIS WAY, THE TRUE BOSS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE THE PUBLIC. AND SO TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT AND ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT CONVERSATION. THAT WAS ONE APPROACH, NOT THE ONLY APPROACH. IT WAS JUST ONE APPROACH WHERE THOSE THINGS COULD BE PART OF A CONSENT AGENDA. AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT ALL THAT WOULD MAKE THE MEETINGS LONG. BUT I GOT SOME EXAMPLES WHERE THAT IS LIKE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. AND ESSENTIALLY YOU WOULD JUST PUT OFF PULL OFF QUESTIONABLE ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, TALK ABOUT THEM. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A DEEPER DIVE, THEN PULL THAT OFF, APPROVE EVERYTHING ELSE AND THEN STAFF CAN RESEARCH OR DO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WILL IS WITH GETTING TO A DEEPER PERSPECTIVE OF WHATEVER THAT CHARGE IS. BUT IN IN MOST CASES, EXAMPLES THAT I'VE SEEN, IT WORKS PRETTY MECHANICALLY AND PASSES UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. AND IT DOESN'T REALLY CAUSE A LOT OF SLOWDOWN IN THE MEETING. OKAY, I'M GOING TO DO MY RESEARCH AND ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. IF I MAY. ALSO, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SEND OUT THE THE UPDATED TRAVEL TO THE NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AS WELL. SO THEY IF YOU HAVE SOME INPUT, I'D WELCOME THAT. OH THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. AND THEN I HAD COUNCILMAN MITCHELL AFTER. THANK YOU. YES. AND SO I THINK THAT FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND ALSO JUST FOR MYSELF, I THINK THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING TO HAVE THE CORRECT ITEM SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION ON THE AGENDAS. AND SO FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING, THE WRONG CREDIT CARD AND TRAVEL POLICY IS ATTACHED. AND SO IT MAKES IT MAKES IT HARD TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND REALLY MOVE FORWARD WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE UPDATED DOCUMENTATION. AND SO. ANYWAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND A THANK YOU TO INTERIM 
          [03:40:01]
DIRECTOR ELIZABETH CARTWRIGHT FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN AND ONE OF THE THE MOMENTS ON SATURDAY'S INAUGURATION THAT STUCK WITH ME WAS WHEN FORMER MAYOR PATSY JO HILLIARD HAD SAID THAT LEADERSHIP IS LIKE TURNING A SHIP IN AN OCEAN. IT'S NOT LIKE TURNING A CAR IN A TIGHT TURN. SO THESE THINGS WILL BE GRADUAL. AND AS LONG AS WE'RE MAKING, YOU KNOW, FORWARD PROGRESS, I THINK THAT THAT'S GREAT. I DO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S FRUSTRATING, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT. AND AND SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT I'M IN. ARE YOU IN, MR. ATKINS? NO. BECAUSE AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY I JUST WANT TO MAKE A SUGGESTION FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL COLLEAGUES. IT'S 1014. 
          SHOULD WE SEE CITY STAFF SO THAT WE CAN ALLOW THEM TO GO HOME? I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW LONG WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE, BUT MAYBE WE CAN END FOR MY ITEM. LIKE, CITY STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY FOR MY ITEMS, BUT IF WE WANT TO JUST GO THROUGH AND AND BRING UP STAFF, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE. KIND. YES. CITY, I THINK. THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO GO? WE DON'T NEED A MOTION TO REORDER THE TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF COMES OUT SO WE CAN CALL. GO AHEAD. I'M ASKING YOU. YES. SO FIRST I THINK YOU NEED TO DISPOSE OF THE CREDIT CARD POLICY BECAUSE IT JUST IT'LL IT'LL REAPPEAR ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION OR OR DIE IF YOU GUYS DON'T SAY WHERE YOU WANT TO SEE IT NEXT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE SOME VARYING OPINIONS OF WHETHER IT SHOULD GO TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION OR IF IT SHOULD GO TO A VOTING MEETING. I JUST THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CLEAR DIRECTION TO THE CLERK OF WHERE TO PUT THIS AGENDA ITEM, OR IT WON'T REAPPEAR AT ALL. SO MY QUESTION IS, IF IT GOES TO WHEN YOU SAY IT WILL GO OFF, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S DISCUSSION ON IT. THIS IS A POLICY AND IT NEEDS TO MOVE OVER. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ACTION COULD BE ASIDE FROM MOVING IT TO ANOTHER MEETING, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED OR JUST NO TABLED OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE? WE HAVE THIS ITEM. SO TECHNICALLY THE NEXT PLACE FOR IT TO GO IS ON THE NEXT BUSINESS MEETING WHERE IT GETS VOTED ON TO THE REGULAR. SO SO THAT'S WHERE IT'LL GO. RIGHT. 
          AND THEN IF AT THAT MEETING IT'S NOT READY OR SOMETHING'S WRONG, MAYBE IT'S THE WRONG VERSION ATTACHED, THEN Y'ALL CAN DECIDE TO PUT IT BACK ON THE WORK SESSION. SO, MADAM CLERK, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. IT'S GOING TO GO ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION FOR NEXT, NEXT TUESDAY BECAUSE NEXT MONDAY'S MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY. OR DOES IT GO TO THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY? EXCUSE ME? NO. RIGHT. IT'LL GO TUESDAY WORK SESSION. OKAY. I'M SO SORRY. IT'LL GO TO THE REGULAR MEETING ON TUESDAY. SO THEN IT'S DISPOSED OF FROM TODAY'S AGENDA TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN REORDER THINGS, THAT'S FINE. 
          JUST ANNOUNCE WHICH ITEM YOU'RE GOING TO SO THE PUBLIC CAN FOLLOW ALONG. OKAY. SO OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IT SEEMS TO BE THE THAT WE. MADAM MAYOR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION CLARIFYING. SO IN ORDER FOR THIS COUNCIL, CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS GOING TO FOR A VOTE AND HAS A DESIRE FOR IT TO GO TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE ITEMS THAT WERE, PER YOUR COMMENT, THE ITEMS THAT WERE ATTACHED WERE NOT ACCURATE. AND SO YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING INTO A REGULAR MEETING FOR IT TO BE VOTED ON BECAUSE YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION AND AND THEREFORE IT NEEDS TO GO TO A WORK SESSION. SO QUESTION CAN I'M ASKING ABOUT OWNERSHIP SO THAT IT DOESN'T JUST GO TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION AND DIE. THIS RIGHT NOW IS LISTED AS CITY COUNCIL. IS THERE A WAY FOR ONE OF US TO CLAIM OWNERSHIP OF THE ITEM, SUCH THAT WHAT WORK NEEDS TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT WORK SESSION HAPPENS, AND THE DETAILS AND CONCERNS ARE IRONED OUT AND CLARIFIED REALLY QUICK? MADAM MAYOR, IF I CAN CLARIFY, THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO SAY WHOSE CREDIT CARD POLICY IT IS. SO IT'S NOT STAFF CREDIT 
          [03:45:04]
CARD. OKAY. IT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT REFERS TO. OKAY. AMEN. SO SO TO CLOSE THAT AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS ITEM BACK INTO WORK SESSION WITH THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION ATTACHED. 
          AND I'M GOING TO COUNCIL I'M GOING COUNCILMAN MITCHELL NEXT. YEAH I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE FINAL VERSION BEFORE WE CAN VOTE ON ANYTHING. OKAY. SO I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR IT TO GO TO THE FEBRUARY WORK SESSION. YOU GUYS JUST NEED TO SAY THAT OTHERWISE IT'LL GO TO THE NEXT VOTING MEETING, RIGHT? YES. I THINK IT HAS TO GO TO WORK SESSION SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL VERSION OR WE I, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE AGREE ON WHAT'S IN THE FINAL VERSION. ALSO, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH THE POLICIES IN FRONT OF US, SO IT NO DOUBT HAS TO GO TO I BELIEVE IT HAS TO GO TO A WORK SESSION. 
          THANK YOU. SO. CONSISTENT TO OUR WORK SESSION. OKAY. IS THERE IS THERE A CONSENSUS? ON ANDREA IS IN. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. WE HAVE THE FINAL. IT'S IT WASN'T ATTACHED TODAY. BUT THERE IS A FINAL COPY. THAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO US. CORRECT? I YEAH, IT WAS THAT DIRECTED TO ME. I'M SORRY. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION FOR A WORK SESSION FOR NEXT MONTH. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A FINAL DRAFT OF IT. WE JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT. I, I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THERE IS, BUT I DON'T HAVE MY STAFF TO REAFFIRM. OKAY. SO I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, BUT I DO RECALL THE CONVERSATION BEFORE OF OF VARIOUS VERSIONS. I JUST COULDN'T BE 100% CERTAIN WHICH VERSION IS IN FRONT OF ME. I ASSUME THAT THEY WERE ALWAYS UPDATED AS THE CHANGES WERE MADE. SO UNTIL I CAN RESEARCH THAT, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY YES, YEAH FOR THAT, THEN I WOULD SAY PUSH IT TO THE WORK SESSION. THANK YOU. AND SO YES. SO ONE THING IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT INFO ON THE IN THE PACKET, BUT ALSO I DON'T THINK WE CAME TO CONCLUSION ON WHO WAS GOING TO BE THE ADMINISTRATOR AND THE AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO RESOLVE WHO WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY AUDIT, I GUESS, FOR A LACK OF A BETTER WORD, THE CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS EVERY MONTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THAT THE CHARGES WERE ALIGNED WITH THE POLICIES. I DON'T THINK THAT WE EVER LANDED ON ON WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKED LIKE. 
          DO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALIGNING THAT TO. I MEAN, WE CAN ASK THE CITY CLERK TO ENSURE THAT AS THAT GOES ON TO THE I MEAN, YEAH, IT WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THE THE RIGHT VERSION IS UP. IT ALSO DAWNS ON ME THAT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS FROM REGENTS COMING IN TALKING ABOUT THE MECHANICS OF THE CARD, SO IT MAY FLOW BETTER TO WAIT UNTIL THAT WORK SESSION SO THAT EVERYBODY CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS THE PCARD PORTION OF IT. THEN THE POLICY MAKING PORTION OF IT WILL HAVE A CLEAR UPDATED POLICY. I'LL UPDATE MY MEMO. SO IT'S REALLY CLEAR WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING. AND THEN THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE NEXT BUSINESS MEETING AFTER THAT. OKAY, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE GO AHEAD. COUNCILWOMAN ATKINS. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK. COUNCIL MEMBER CALDWELL ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE FINAL VERSION, AND CITY MANAGER JONES RESPONDED, WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL VERSION. THERE'S NO FINAL. THERE'S A LATEST VERSION, LATEST VERSION, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A FINAL VERSION BECAUSE. AND THAT'S SO TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN CALDWELL, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IS A FINAL VERSION. IT IS THE LATEST VERSION. BUT AS YOU CAN HEAR ALL THE CONVERSATION, THERE'S STILL SO MANY OTHER COMPONENTS TO IT THAT WE'VE GOT TO RESOLVE. BECAUSE IF WE HAD A FINAL VERSION, LIKE COUNCILMEMBER FREELY SAID, WE WOULD HAVE VOTED ON THIS. SO AND I DON'T THINK THE THE LATEST VERSION HAS BEEN IN OUR PACKET RIGHT FOR US TO REVIEW. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PARTICULARLY THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS GET THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO WE WILL MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE FEBRUARY WORK SESSION. THAT'S NUMBER SEVEN. OH I'M SORRY EIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO LET STAFF PRESENTATIONS. LET'S 
          [03:50:07]
SEE WHERE'S THE NEXT PRESENTATION. THREE ON SIX. THESE ARE THESE ARE ALL 11 AND 12 ON FEBRUARY. YEAH. FEBRUARY WORK SESSION. OKAY. GOT TEN. 11. ACTUALLY. NINE. TEN. 11 AND 12. 
          IT WERE IN. WE PUT THE ORDER. SO WHAT I HAVE FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION IS THE ORDINANCE. 
          SENIOR HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION. I HAVE THE REPEAL DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP CHAPTER. I HAVE THE GRIEVANCE AND WHISTLEBLOWER POLICY. AND I HAVE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY GOING ON THE WORK SESSION FOR FEBRUARY. NO, I ASKED IT NUMBER TEN, STAY ON, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT SHE WAS COMING IN NOT TO HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. OKAY. SO. MOVE NUMBER TEN. CAN WE LOOK AT THE RECORD AND SEE IF THAT WAS MOVED? LET'S MOVE ON. THANK YOU. 
          THE UPDATE ON THE 2024 AUDIT AND THE CITYWIDE LITTER PREVENTION AND ENFORCEMENT PLAN. ARE WE MOVING THIS DOWN TO. NO, NO. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND WE SEE WHICH STAFF MEMBERS ARE HERE TO PRESENT SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM THEM. SO, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE MY ITEMS, I CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE ON MY OWN. BUT ITEM NUMBER 19 IS WATER AND SEWER. I KNOW I WANTED TO JUST HAVE A BRIEF SNIPPET OF WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED. ITEM NUMBER 20, BRIEF SNIPPET. THEN YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS FOR 23 AND 24. 
          THEY'RE HERE AND THEN 25 IS PUBLIC WORKS. THEN 26 IS THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE GET STAFF OUT. WE GO THROUGH HERE FROM STAFF, AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO OUR ITEMS IF WE SO CHOOSE TO. OKAY. I THINK I WAS CONFUSED THAT BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING TO THE NEW ITEM SECTION AND WE WERE FINALIZING THAT. SO YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM. CAN WE GO TO 26? I THINK IT'S THE ONLY PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND WE MAY HAVE A CITIZEN THAT MAY BE WAITING FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THAT WOULD THEN CLEAR. MISS SMITH, MR. KELLY, AND IF THERE'S A CITIZEN TO SPEAK TO THIS, AND THEN BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL PUBLIC WORKS AND SO AT LEAST WE COULD ALLOW THOSE FOLKS TO GO HOME. OKAY, GREAT. 
          [IV.26. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Rezoning Request - 2461 McAlpin Terrace]
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM 26. THANK. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND WELCOME TO ALL THE NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE. THANK YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE. THANKS. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM, PROJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2461 MCALPINE TERRACE. CASE NUMBER P2025. THAT'S 001-11. CASE TYPE IS A REZONING. THE APPLICANT IS MR. DARNELL TAYLOR, AND THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED OUR RESIDENTIAL LIMITED DISTRICT. AND THE REQUEST IS FOR REZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL LIMITED TO R-2 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AS YOU SEE ON THE ZONING MAP ABOVE, IT IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS DEPICTED IN THE HIGHLIGHTED BLUE. IT IS NEXT TO A PROPERTY THAT WAS REZONED TO THE EXACT SAME REQUEST IN 2011, AND THAT PROPERTY WAS APPROVED. THE DESIGNATION ON. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AS YOU SEE ON THE MAP. IN THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, THERE ARE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE SINGLE 
          [03:55:06]
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT HAVE YOU OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IN THAT AREA. STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN ATKINS. OH, SORRY. AND I GUESS WE CAN MOVE. OH, IS THE APPLICANT. ARE YOU WAITING ON ME? YES, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. YES. GOOD EVENING. HI. SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I GOTTA GET MY BEARINGS A LITTLE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME, MADAM MAYOR. I'M DOING WELL. PRESENT. GOTCHA. I THOUGHT THOSE QUESTIONS, MA'AM. I CAN TAKE OVER HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO MY NAME IS DARNELL DALLAIRE, OWNER OF 2461 MCALPIN TERRACE. AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE PRESENTATION HERE, WE HAVE ONLY ABOUT FOUR SLIDES. I BELIEVE IT IS. WE ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE HOME FROM A RL RESIDENTIAL LIMITED TO A R-2, WHICH IS A TWO FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT. THE REASON FOR THE REZONING IS THE RL IS NOT ALIGNED WITH THE DESIGNATION FOR THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AND THE USE. THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS A TWO. EXCUSE ME. THE CURRENT USE IS A TWO FAMILY HOME. THIS IS A HOME THAT I'VE OWNED FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS. IT IS FULLY OCCUPIED RIGHT NOW. ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE'S. SO THERE'S TWO CIRCLES HERE. ON THE LEFT SIDE, THERE'S A FAMILY THERE. ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THERE IS ANOTHER FAMILY THERE. WE HAVE ANOTHER IMAGE THAT JUST MORE DOCUMENTS IT FROM THE FRONT ROAD, THE WALKWAY TO THE MIDDLE. IT'S LIKE A FOUR YEAR AREA. AND THEN ONCE YOU ENTER INTO THAT FOUR YEAR AREA, THERE'S A DOOR TO THE LEFT AND THEN A DOOR TO THE RIGHT. THAT'S THE ACTUAL ENTRANCES TO THE PROPERTY. OUR PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 2022 CITY OF EASTPOINTE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE UPDATE. AS MISS SMITH DID NOTATE, WE ARE NOT THE FIRST ONES ON THIS STREET OF MCALPIN TERRACE TO REQUEST THIS REZONING. SO THOSE THAT ARE R2 CURRENTLY ARE IN THAT ORANGE COLOR DESIGNATION. SO BY THE LOOKS OF THE VISUAL, WE WOULD BE THE FOURTH ONE ON THE STREET. SO CURRENTLY THERE'S 24472473 AND 2455. ADDITIONAL REASONING IS FOR THIS REZONING. AGAIN OTHERS ON THE STREET HAVE DONE IT. WE ALL HAVE VERY SIMILAR PROPERTIES. I DON'T INTEND TO DO ANY FURTHER RENOVATIONS OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO THIS PROPERTY, SO IT WOULD NOT BE DISRUPTING ANY OF THE THE LAND OR USE THERE. SO AN APPROVAL TODAY OR WITHIN THIS PROCESS WOULD MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING USE, KEEPING IT IN HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF I DIDN'T MAKE IT CLEAR BEFORE, THIS IS THE LAST IMAGE, BUT THE ONE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS OUR PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE. YEAH, THAT IS THE LAST SLIDE HERE, WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE 
          [04:00:04]
FOR ME. WE DO NEED I'M SORRY I CAN'T I'M SORRY OKAY. SO OKAY SO WITH THIS ONE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. WHERE DOES IT GO TO. THE NEXT. THE NEXT. WHERE I WORK. NO REGULAR MEETING THAT WILL TAKE FEBRUARY REGULAR MEETING TO BE VOTED ON. AND FEBRUARY NO. WE CAN COME TO THE THIRD MEETING. NO. I'M SORRY. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, I'M SORRY. 
          JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS THE THE ITEM THAT JUST WAS JUST PRESENTED WILL GO TO THE MONDAY MEETING FOR A VOTE FROM COUNCIL. MONDAY. PARDON ME. TUESDAY. MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY. WE'LL HAVE THIS ON ON TUESDAY. THANK YOU. AND FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION. MADAM MAYOR, CAN I JUST INFORM YOU THAT THE AIRPORT, WEST SIDE. THERE'S ACTUALLY SOMEONE FROM CID WAITING. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S NUMBER 28. BUT WE NEED STAFF FIRST. LET'S FINISH WITH STAFF. 
          THEY WORK HERE. RIGHT. SO FOR THE NEXT ITEM AT PLANNING AND. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING PUBLIC. 
          OKAY. SO COUNCIL MEMBER CALDWELL IS MAKING A SUGGESTION. NO I'M JUST MAKE AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER. WHAT? THE CID HOW LONG IS THE PRESENTATION? OKAY. OKAY. THE OKAY AIRPORT WEST 
          [IV.28. Airport West CID 2025 Expansion Resolution]
WILL HAVE THE AIRPORT WEST CID EXPANSION RESOLUTION, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'LL HAVE DANIELLE BASS. SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE ALANA CID. 
          OKAY. YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DANIELLE BASS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THE AIRPORT WEST CID. I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE SOME HANDOUTS AND A PACKET. BASICALLY, THE RESOLUTION IS JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE BOUNDARIES FOR THE CID IS CHANGING FOR 2025. THE CID FOR THE AIRPORT, WEST CID, WAS INCORPORATED IN 2014 THROUGH GEORGIA STATE LEGISLATURE, AND IT STATES THAT EACH CITY, THE FIVE CITIES THAT WE HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, WE HAVE TO GO TO EACH CITY TO GET YOU ALL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR BOUNDARIES ARE CHANGING AND VOTE ON APPROVAL AS A FORMALITY, SO WE CAN SUBMIT OUR ENTIRE PACKET TO THE TAX ASSESSOR SITE TO FINALIZE IT. THERE ARE ABOUT EIGHT SEVEN NEW PROPERTY OWNERS THAT CONSENTED, AND SIX THAT WE ARE BRINGING INTO THE CID FOR 2025. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, THERE'S ACTUALLY A MAP ON THE THIRD PAGE THAT JUST SHOWS WHAT THE WHERE OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE LOCATED AND WHERE HOW OUR BOUNDARIES ARE CHANGING. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT THAT'S HONESTLY JUST THE GIST OF IT. IS THIS SENSITIVE? THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M SORRY, IS THIS TIME SENSITIVE INFORMATION? IS THERE AN ACTION? BECAUSE WHEN I READ IT, I SAW THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAD SIGNED OVER THEIR PROPERTY. YES. IS THIS TIME SENSITIVE INFORMATION OR DO WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT? SO I DO NEED THE RESOLUTION BY THE END OF JANUARY. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY SINCE SEPTEMBER TO GET IT APPROVED, BUT IN ORDER FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE BILLED GOING INTO, I THINK THEY COMPLETE EVERYTHING BY APRIL. I HAVE TO HAVE THE PACKET SUBMITTED BY THE END OF JANUARY. AND SO THE 
          [04:05:04]
CONSENT FORMS THAT YOU DID SEE, THOSE ARE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS DID CONSENT OVER. AND SO EACH OF THE CITIES JUST REVIEW THE PACKET AND VOTE, WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALL WANT TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. ALRIGHT. I'M GOING TO NOW JUST ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN. SO IF WE HAVE A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION BASED ON THIS TIME SENSITIVITY, I WOULD THINK THAT IT COULD GO ON FOR JANUARY 20TH. IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, IT COULD GO ON CONSENT. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND DO YOU ALL REQUIRE SOMEONE FOR ONE OF OUR FROM OUR OFFICE TO COME TO THE 20TH MEETING? YES. OKAY. I'M GOING TO MOVE THE CITY, SO I'LL HAVE SOMEBODY COME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. 
          SO WE ARE MOVING BACK TO THE MORE STAFF AVAILABLE OR FOR. LET'S SEE. RIGHT. SO WE CAN GO DO WE FINISH 22. OKAY. CAN WE MOVE TO 21. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SEVERAL ON THE 2122 FOR WATER AND SEWER. THOSE WERE THEN MOVED OKAY. AND THEN. 2019 AND 20. I'M SEEING THOSE ARE CONSENT 19 AND 20 WERE CONSENT 2021 I HAVE CONSENT OKAY. SO 19 AND 20 NEED IMMEDIATE. SO THAT 
          [Items IV.19. & IV.20. ]
IS YEAH 19 AND 20. SO WE'LL GO TO ITEMS 19 AND 20. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE WATER AND SEWER COUNCIL. THIS IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON VENDOR MUELLER. SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT FOR CITY WIDE LEAK DETECTION. SO WATER AND SEWER CONSENT. SO THESE ARE GOING ON CONSENT I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO VOTE ON THESE. NO 19 OR 20 1 OR 22. WE HAVE CONSENT. SO WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THIS RIGHT HERE WHICH IS ACTION EMERGENCY. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MELISSA AZARIA THE WATER AND SEWER DIRECTOR. SO ITEM NUMBER 21, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 31 LEAK DETECTORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS IS JUST THE SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT BECAUSE WE USE MUELLER FIRE HYDRANTS AND WE USE THEIR SYSTEM FOR THE LEAK DETECTION SYSTEM. OKAY. PERFECT. SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S 20 THE EMERGENCY 19 OKAY. SO OKAY OKAY I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON EMERGENCY STORM LINE REPAIR DUE TO STORM LINE FAILURE AT RANSON PARK DUE TO LIFE HEALTH SAFETY. SO WE RECEIVED THREE SEECLICKFIX AND ALSO COMMUNICATION FROM CHARLOTTE PICKETT, WHICH IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, ABOUT SEVERAL SINKHOLES IN RANSON PARK. ONCE WE DID SOME POTHOLING AND CCTV THE AREA, IT WAS COMPLETELY COLLAPSED. SO THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY. SOME OF IT WAS, I GUESS, THE GAZEBO AREA AND AROUND THE PARK AREA THAT'S RECENTLY WILL BE REHABILITATED AGAIN. THAT WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS A FORMALITY BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. WE COME TO YOU AFTER IT'S BEEN DONE TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE DID, HOW THE PROCESS WAS DONE, AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED. WE HAVE A THREE YEAR ON CALL SERVICE CONTRACT THAT WE CALL AND CONTRACTORS FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS IN THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. SO WE USE OUR ALREADY BIDDED OUT VENDOR SELECTED LIST. SAME THING FOR ITEM NUMBER 20. COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF EMERGENCY SEWER REPAIR AT THE COLLAPSE OF A STORMWATER. I'M SORRY. SEWER LINE REPAIR AT 2813 NORMAN BERRY DRIVE. AND AGAIN, THE WHOLE INTENT IS TO PREVENT AND MINIMIZE ANY SEWER FROM ENTERING OUR WATERWAYS. AND WE ALSO USE THAT ON CALL SERVICE PROVIDER FROM THAT THREE YEAR BID THAT WE PUT OUT AS WELL. SO THAT ALSO BEEN COMPLETED. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DID YOU HAVE TWO 
          [04:10:16]
PRESENTATIONS FOR US OR WANT TO MOVE. NOPE. NO PRESENTATIONS OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO. 21. OH THAT'S ON. THAT'S. YES. 19 AND 20 WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON CONSENT. YOU HAD WHAT. SO SHE JUST DID 19 OR 20. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE NOW. SO WE CAN NOW 21 OR 22 FOR THE MONTH OF THE EARLIEST CONSENT. 
          SHE JUST REPORTED ON 1920. RIGHT. YEAH. SO SHE RECORDED ON CONSENT. I THOUGHT WE PUT ON TWO ALL. OKAY. THESE CAN NOW BE CONSIDERED TO BE MOVED TO THIS. OKAY. SO WE HAVE 19. YEAH 1920 MOVE THESE TWO OKAY. COUNCIL WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE 19 AND 20 TO CONSENT. YES. SEE I HAVE IT HERE OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE ON NUMBER 23 FOLLOWED BY NUMBER 24. NUMBER 2527 2931 AND 33 IS WHAT I HAVE FOR CONSENT. I HAVE 27. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH 23 THEN SIR. YES. GOOD 
          [Items IV.23 - IV.25]
EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ITEM NUMBER 23 PRESENTED TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A VENDOR VERTIGO OR FOR DESSERT, DRIVE MILL AND RESURFACING. PROJECT TSPLOST FUNDED. THIS PROJECT IS NOT TO EXCEED 853,000 $287,000.50, AND ALSO AGAIN, FUNDING IS TO SPLOST. QUESTIONS. THIS PROJECT WAS IT WAS SOLICITED. WE DO HAVE SOLICITATION INFORMATION IF WE NEED IT, BUT IT WAS PUT OUT FOR SOLICITATION AS AN ATTACHMENT. RIGHT. AND ALL THAT INFORMATION IS IN ATTACHMENT. MAYOR, ASK A QUESTION. OKAY. GOOD. YES. NO QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? YES. YEAH. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT I'D ASK A QUESTION SINCE WE ASKED YOU TO COME UP HERE. SO 853,000. LIKE, WHAT SORT OF STRETCH OF DESERT DRIVE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT. WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING. SO THIS IS WE HAVE REHABILITATION, BUT IT'S SIDEWALKS AND PAVEMENT. SO IT'LL BE FROM CAMP CREEK PARKWAY ALL THE WAY UP TO RED WINE ROAD, NORTH DESERT DRIVE. SO COMING OFF OF RED WINE, WHEN YOU TURN WHERE THE CAR WASH IS AND THE HOTELS AND THOSE PARK AND RIDE FOOD BANK AREA, OKAY. AND THEN ACROSS CAMP CREEK, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT. NO, STOP STOP, STOP. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. QUESTION, QUESTION. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DIRECTOR REEVES AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HALL FOR THAT STRETCH OF NORTH DESERT. AND MR. HALL, YOU JUST HELPED ME OUT TO UNDERSTAND BETTER. ALSO, IT'S THE STREET AND THE SIDEWALKS CORRECT. AND SIDEWALKS ARE ONLY ON ONE SIDE. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE EAST SIDE, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T THINK THERE'S SIDEWALKS ON THAT SIDE. RIGHT. THERE'S NO SIDEWALK OUT THERE AT ALL NOW. OKAY. SO SO THIS WE DESIGNED BOTH SIDES SIDEWALK. SO BOTH SIDES WILL NOW HAVE SIDEWALKS AS A PART OF THIS. YES SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOING DOWN TO THE FOOD BANK, THAT AREA. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 24 IS 
          [04:15:08]
TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON DEFENDER PARAMOUNT CUTTING CONTRACT FROM ITB 2026 1898 FOR SYLVAN ROAD NORTH SIDEWALK TSPLOST FUNDED NOT TO EXCEED $382,439.84. THIS WOULD BE GOING FROM CLEVELAND AVENUE, GOING BACK TOWARDS 166. SO I GOT MY QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. HELLO. YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, BUT WHEN WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO START? AS SOON AS WE GET THIS APPROVED AND GET THE CONTRACT ROUTED AND EVERYTHING WE THE FUNDING IS ALREADY THERE, SO WE'LL GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY. FANTASTIC. 
          30, 45 DAYS. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MA'AM. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION, AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. WILL WE DO SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES FROM CLEVELAND TO 166. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY GOING TO BE ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH DECIDED THE PARK IS ON FOR NOW. THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE OTHER SIDE. SO THIS IS THE MORE SHOVEL READY SIDE TO BUILD WITH. 
          COME BACK AND DESIGN THE OTHER PHASE OF THE SIDE A LATER DATE, BUT FOR NOW IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE WEST SIDE, THE WEST SIDE ONLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY QUESTION? THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 25. COUNCIL DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE VENDOR GEORGIA SEWER AND STORM LLC FROM ITB 2026, 1897 FOR CONNOLLY DRIVE SIDEWALK PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $211,580.26. THIS IS LOCAL MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT GRANT MONEY THAT WE WILL BE USING. 
          MR. THIS IS WILL THIS ITEM BE YOU'RE ASKED TO. I'M SORRY YOU ASKED AGAIN. IS IT FOR. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION JUST TO ASK AGAIN, CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT I WOULD JUST ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR OKAY CONSTRUCTION. ALRIGHT. SO MOVE TO CONSENT AND WE MOVE THAT TO THE. DO YOU HAVE CONSENT? DO WE HAVE CONSENT. DO WE HAVE CONSENT FOR 23, 24 AND 25. OKAY. 
          YES. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND THEN NOW I HAVE ITEM 26. ITEM 
          [IV.27. Council Discussion and Possible Action for Permission to Apply to Fulton County Arts Grant:  Contract for Services. Up to $50,000 W/ No Minimum Match.]
27. PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE FULTON COUNTY ARTS GRANT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M COMING TO YOU THIS EVENING SEEKING PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE FULTON COUNTY ARTS GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF PROBABLY $50,000. WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. EVERY YEAR WE'VE APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT. THANKFULLY, WE'VE RECEIVED IT. LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE COUNTY PIVOTED AND PUT MOST OF THEIR FUNDING TOWARDS THE JAIL. SO THEY CUT THE ARTS FUNDING TREMENDOUSLY, BUT THEY DID GIVE US SOME MONEY. THEN LATER ON AT THE END OF THE CYCLE, THEY CAME BACK AND GAVE US MORE. SO THIS GRANT SINGLE HANDEDLY PAID FOR DRAG DOWN SOUTH FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. I HAD. I'M SORRY. NO. THAT'S IT. I JUST NEED THE PERMISSION OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL BEFORE. BEFORE WE CAN APPLY FOR MONEY. THEN ONCE WE RECEIVE THE GRANT, THEN WE HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO RECEIVE, TO TAKE IT IN AS WELL. SO. NOW I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE. I'M SORRY. NO, I'D LIKE. I'LL HAVE. I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAS A QUESTION. YEAH. I MISS GREG. I SEE THE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS? IT SAYS NO MINIMUM MATCH. SO THERE'S NO REQUIRED AMOUNT THAT WE KNOW THERE ISN'T. THERE'S NO MATCH REQUIRED FOR THIS CRIME. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN I APPLY FOR THIS GRANT FROM THE FULTON COUNTY, IT'S A I APPLY FOR UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF IT'S CALLED I CALL IT ENGAGED EASTPOINTE. SO UNDER THE UMBRELLA ENGAGED EASTPOINTE. I'M ALLOWED TO PUT IN AT LEAST 2 OR 3 EVENTS TO COVER WITH THIS GRANT, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR. YES, I JUST 
          [04:20:01]
I WAS JUST JUST CONFERRING WITH LEGAL. I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE IF WE COULD DO APPLY IF BASED ON APPLYING AND ACCEPTING IF AWARDED. SO THAT HAS SAVED A PROCESS OF COMING BACK TO COUNCIL. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO APPLY AND ACCEPT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION TO ACCEPT THE THE GRANT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO COUNCILWOMAN, LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE DID. SORRY. GO AHEAD. THIS IS FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. DO WE VOTE ON THAT TODAY OR DOES THAT HAVE TO GO IN? AND DO WE USUALLY VOTE DURING WORK SESSIONS OR YOU? WE DON'T USUALLY VOTE DURING WORK SESSION. REMEMBER WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS IF UNLESS IT'S TIME SENSITIVE THEN THEN WE CAN PROVIDE IT THAT YOU GUYS SUSPEND THE RULES TO MAKE IT OKAY TO VOTE DURING THE WORK SESSION. SO. OKAY, MR. SWAIN, WHEN DO YOU NEED THIS? JUST THIS TIME SENSITIVE TODAY OR CAN WE. APPLICATION IS DUE ON THE 15TH. THE 15TH OF JANUARY. 
          OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN WE CAN, MADAM MAYOR? YES. TWO MOTIONS. THE FIRST MOTION IS TO SUSPEND THE WORK SESSION POLICY THAT YOU KNOW. WHAT IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO VOTE ON THIS TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE. GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO US IN THE AGENDA PACKET. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. WE'VE BEEN MOVED TO SUSPEND THE THE WORK SESSION POLICY, AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY STAFF TO APPLY AND ACCEPT THE AWARD SHOULD IT BE GRANTED BY THE FULTON COUNTY ARTS PROGRAM. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE DID IT. AND MOVING ON NOW TO WE JUST FINISHED ITEM 27. ITEM 29. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR ITEM 
          [IV.29. East Point Day at the Capitol ]
29 OR CONSENT? NO. ITEM 29. YES THAT'S THAT'S MY ITEM. YEAH. SO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION OPENS TODAY. AND EVERY YEAR WE TYPICALLY HAVE EASTPOINTE DAY AT THE CAPITOL. I BELIEVE THE MAYOR TYPICALLY WORKS WITH OUR, OUR OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE LOBBYISTS TO ORGANIZE THIS DAY WHERE WE GO AND MEET WITH OUR LEGISLATORS. THERE'S TYPICALLY A LUNCH AND SO ON. AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING AND I HAPPEN TO HAVE LUNCH AT AN EVENT A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH. 
          REPRESENTATIVE SCHOFIELD, AND SHE WAS VERY ANXIOUS FOR US TO GET PLANNING AND TRY TO GET THIS PUT TOGETHER. SHE ALSO HAD SOME NEW IDEAS THIS YEAR. SHE WANTED TO EXTEND IT TO INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO THE CAPITOL AND JOIN US. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THIS ON THE RADAR. I HAD REACHED OUT TO WHO I THOUGHT WAS OUR LOBBYIST, JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS? HAS ANYONE REACHED OUT? I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING, SO I'M NOT SURE WHO YOU KNOW. WHO KNOWS WHO THAT CURRENT CONTACT IS IF IT IS NOT THAT PERSON ANY LONGER. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THEM TYPICALLY. AND THEN REPRESENTATIVE SCHOFIELD WILL BE HAPPY TO, TO ASSIST US. AND WE WOULD PROPOSE A DATE. OKAY. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN. 
          YES. I JUST WANT US TO KEEP IN MIND THAT MY STATE REPRESENTATIVE IS SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE OF THE REDISTRICTING. SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE THREE THAT REPRESENT EASTPOINTE. 1ST MAY BE TANYA DAWSON AND SCHOFIELD. RIGHT. AND CORRECT. YEAH. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM. 
          I WE JUST TALKED TO REPRESENTATIVE SCHOFIELD BECAUSE SHE, SHE WAS AT THE LUNCHEON AND SHE WAS ANXIOUS FOR US TO GET IT ORGANIZED. BUT EVERYONE IS TYPICALLY INCLUDED OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LOBBYISTS DO IS THEY KIND OF GET EVERYTHING PULLED TOGETHER AND THEY LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LUNCH AND SO ON. SO THE SESSION OPENED TODAY. SO TYPICALLY WE DO IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN JANUARY OR EARLY FEBRUARY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE'VE GO AHEAD I'M SORRY. DO WE WE NEED TO GIVE AN OFFICE. WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND GIVE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE 
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OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT AND COME BACK WITH A TIMETABLE. IF THAT'S THE WILL OF COUNCIL, SOMEONE HAS TO REACH OUT TO THEM. RIGHT? AS I SAY, I THINK I BELIEVE IN THE PAST, THE MAYOR HAS REACHED OUT TO OUR LOBBYISTS TO SORT OF START THE BALL ROLLING. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE THANK YOU, I HAVE SO WE I MET WITH LOBBYISTS JOHN CLAYTON AND THE DAY AT THE CAPITOL IS COULD IT COULD POSSIBLY BE SLATED FOR FEBRUARY THE 20TH. BUT I'M NOT IT DOESN'T NEED CORRECTION HERE. DO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT APPROVED TO GO. BECAUSE I CAN WORK WITH CITY, THE CITY CLERK, TO ARRANGE SOME TIME. I DO BELIEVE THAT HE WANTED TO COME HERE AS WELL BEFORE THAT MEETING. WHEN WE GO TO THE CAPITOL TO DO A PRESENTATION AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT HE DOES IN THE PRESENTATION SO THAT GO AHEAD. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WHATEVER DATE WE AS OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE AGREE ON AND WHATEVER DATE THE LOBBYIST THINKS THAT THEY CAN GET OUR REPRESENTATIVES ALL IN THE SAME ROOM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT'S REALLY INVOLVED. OKAY. I WILL WORK WITH THIS, MADAM CITY CLERK, BECAUSE I THINK THE 20TH IS THE DAY THAT WE DISCUSSED DURING THAT MEETING. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, I HEARD TWO THINGS. I HEARD A DATE FOR Y'ALL TO GO TO THE CAPITOL. AND THEN THIS CLAYTON GENTLEMAN IS SEEKING TO COME HERE TO PRESENT. YES. AND SO THAT WOULD JUST NEED TO GO ON A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. SO I WILL MOVE THAT TO THE 20TH AGENDA FOR, I GUESS, A PRESENTATION. AND THEN I WILL WORK WITH MADAM CITY CLERK FOR THE, THE DATE FOR US TO GO TO THE CAPITOL, WHICH IS TENTATIVELY FEBRUARY THE 20TH. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. CLAYTON. SHE'S SAYING SHE'S GOING TO PUT THAT INVITE HIM TO COME ON JANUARY 20TH. FOR 15 MINUTES. 
          I'M 30, MADAM MAYOR. WEEKS SKIPPING ITEM 30. OKAY. I'M SORRY. ITEM 30. THESE ARE THE OLD. SO. WHY CAN'T WE FINISH ITEM? WHY CAN'T WE FINISH THIS ON NEW? IS IT? I'LL BE VERY QUICK BECAUSE WE. I KNOW WE MOVED TO. OH. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE. WHAT DID WE FINISH? ALL ITEMS OUT AND THEN LET'S GO BACK. ARE THERE ANY MORE? DO WE DO OTHER ITEMS? YES, YES. CORD IT. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF MURMURS AND MULTIPLE. SO WE HAVE TO. 
          I THINK WE GOT OUT OF STAFF. OH MADAM MAYOR, HAVE WE COMPLETED ALL THE STAFF ITEMS? WHAT DID WE MISS. IS IT NUMBER 15? YEAH, THAT'S. THE BACK TO THE OLD. NUMBER. 15. 
          PREVENTION. AND. 
          CLEAR. SO WE HAVE NUMBER 15 AND NUMBER 16 ARE WE. ARE YOU GOOD WITH NUMBER 14 DOCTOR, DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS WE DIDN'T GO BACK TO THAT EITHER. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WE GOT NUMBER 13 NEW AGENDA. RIGHT. WE HAVE THAT. ALL RIGHT. IS IT TIME I'M GOING 
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TO BE LIKE TWO SECONDS. MADAM MAYOR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? DO WE STILL HAVE WE STILL HAVE STAFF HERE. ARE THEY HERE FOR. TO SUPPORT? ARE YOU HERE FOR ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE. THERE. THERE ARE TWO MORE ITEMS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DOCTOR MARTIN. MARTIN ROGERS HAS ONE FOR THE CITYWIDE RE STREET REPAVING UPDATES ISSUES. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS THE GUARDRAILS ON RIGGS DRIVE. AND THEN SHE WANTED A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTED TO DISCUSS SOMETHING DEALING WITH THE LITTER. AND. OKAY. AND I REALLY DIDN'T NEED STAFF. I, I HAVE PROVIDED A COMPREHENSIVE PACKET WHICH STARTS ON PAGE 159. I PARDON ME, DOCTOR ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER. ARE WE DOING 15 OR ARE WE GOING TO GO TO THE AUDIT ITEM? I HAVE NUMBER 14, 15 AND 16 UNDER YOU. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE 
          [III.14. Council Discussion on an Update on the 2024 Audit ]
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH? I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE OUT AUDIT. I'LL GO TO 14 AND BE BRIEF. WE NEED OUR AUDIT. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS FAR AS DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT, BUT WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THE PRESENTER STATED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE OUR AUDITS DONE. SO IF MR. CITY MANAGER, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS ITEM ON THE NEXT AGENDA JUST TO HAVE A WRITTEN UPDATE WITH WHERE WE ARE IN THE AUDIT. WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECREATION FACILITY. THE. 
          AUDITORIUM OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS UNTIL WE HAVE AUDIT 2024. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE AUDIT. THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, NOW I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO. I'M SORRY, DO WE NEED TO STOP? NO, I SAID THEY DID NOT HAVE TO BE HERE. 
          [IV.31. Council Discussion and Possible Action Riggs Drive Guard Rail/Safety Issues]
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ONE ITEM WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON, WHICH IS THE RIGGS DRIVE. WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT. WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS I PUT TOGETHER A HEARTY PACKET FOR RIGGS DRIVE. I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO REVIEW THAT PACKET. I INITIALLY SENT A REQUEST BECAUSE I HAD HEARD FROM A RESIDENT MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. TWO YEARS. SHE HAD STARTED THE PROCESS FOR WANTING A GUARD RAIL FOR HER COMMUNITY. I THEN HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND STAFF, IN WHICH I WAS ADVISED THAT IF YOU READ THE EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS THAT A GUARD RAIL WOULD BE PLACED THERE ON RIGGS DRIVE. AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS OF COMMUNICATION. IT'S EMBEDDED. THAT'S WHY I HAD THAT'S WHY I ATTACHED THE EMAILS. THIS IS PRIOR TO YOUR ARRIVAL, BUT I WAS ADVISED BY PUBLIC WORKS THAT THE GUARD RAIL WAS GOING TO BE INSTALLED. 
          AND HERE RECENTLY, I GUESS PUBLIC WORKS HAD SOMEONE GO OUT AND NOW THEY WANT TO LIFT THE CURVE. HEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM. I WAS ADVISED OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THAT THE RESIDENT WAS GOING TO RECEIVE A GUARD RAIL. SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AREA WHERE SHE LIVES, ONLY TO BE RAIL. SO NOW, OH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO LIFT THE CURVE UP FOR SAFETY REASONS. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE A TIMELINE. I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT A TIMELINE ON A DELIVERABLE ON WHEN THIS 
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CURVE IS GOING TO BE REPLACED. SHE IS A LEGACY RESIDENT AND I DON'T KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE RIGGS DRIVE IS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNICATION EMAILS, THIS HAS BEEN AN EXCHANGE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. YEAH, IT'S 31 ITEM, SO ONE I WILL YIELD. BUT SORRY I NEED A DELIVERABLE. SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 31. ARE WE ARE WE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE FOR DISCUSSION I'M SORRY OKAY I'M CONFUSED. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 31. SO WE ARE DONE WITH ITEM 15 AND 16. NO NO NO NO. SHE JUST SAID THAT ON 31. GET RID OF STAFF. SO ON 31. MADAM MAYOR, I'M IN FOR DISCUSSION. YES. WE'VE BEEN SKIPPING OVER THE AGENDA ALL NIGHT, BUT SHE'S SAYING THAT SHE DOESN'T NEED STAFF FOR 15 OR 16. BUT DIRECTOR, BECAUSE DIRECTOR. SHE STARTED WITH 31. YES. ITEM 31. THE STAFF WANTED TO SPEAK REGARDING THE RIGGS DRIVE. CAN WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, MADAM MAYOR? YES, PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IN REFERENCE TO THE RIGGS DRIVE. WE DID PUT IT OUT FOR REVIEW FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN, AND IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION COME FROM THE ENGINEERS THAT WE NOT ACTUALLY PUT IN THE GUARDRAIL. SO OUR SECONDARY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO RAISE THE CURVE AND PUT SOME RAISED. EXCUSE ME, RAISING THE CURB AND PUTTING REFLECTORS LIKE KNOCK DOWN REFLECTORS ALONG THE CURB LINE ALONG THE ENTIRE EMBANKMENT OF RIDGE DRIVE, WHICH WILL GIVE MORE VISUAL AWARENESS TO THE THE CONCERN WHICH WAS A DROP OFF AND ALSO PUT A NON MOVABLE OBJECT THERE. IF YOU PUT A GUARDRAIL THERE WHICH WAS NOT RECOMMENDED, IT HAD THE RISK OF THE RESIDENTS BACKING ACTUALLY RUNNING INTO THE GUARDRAIL. SO IT WASN'T RECOMMENDED BY STAFF OR ENGINEERS TO INSTALL A GUARDRAIL THERE. WE CAME UP WITH A MORE FLEXIBLE SOLUTION THERE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN. SO THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THE CURB, WHICH ROGERS MENTIONED, AND WE ALREADY GOT CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY. SO GUARDRAIL WAS CONSIDERED, BUT IT WASN'T RECOMMENDED BY OUR ENGINEERING. MR. HALL, CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE THERE IS A PRETTY LENGTHY EMAIL EXCHANGE. CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW YOU COMMUNICATE THOSE CONCERNS BACK TO COUNCIL, SO ■THAT WE CAN KEEP THE PUBLIC ABREAST ON THESE CHANGES? SOUNDS LIKE A LEGITIMATE CHANGE THAT THE ENGINEERS, THE EXPERTS, SAID THIS IS NOT A REASONABLE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. CAME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LAPSE IN COMMUNICATION TO COUNCIL. CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO THAT? I THINK WE THE LAST SENT THE EMAIL MIGHT HAVE WENT OUT ON DECEMBER THE 18TH, INDICATING WHAT THE PLAN WAS GOING TO BE. ALSO, THE RESIDENT SON ACTUALLY IS ON OUR STAFF. SO PRIOR TO THIS, EVEN GETTING ESCALATED TO WHERE IT WAS, WE HAD BEEN WORKING IN ADVISING HIM ON WHAT WE WERE DOING AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. AND THEN, AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M ADDING THIS TO WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE WERE WE WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING GUARDRAILS AROUND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AS WELL. SO WITH THAT SAID, WITH A NEW GEORGIA LAW, WE USUALLY CAN CALL A COMPANY TO COME IN AND INSTALL GUARDRAILS. THEN THAT NEW GEORGIA LAW SAYS THEY HAVE TO BE ENGINEERING DESIGNED. SO WE HAD TO GO OUT AND GET AN ENGINEER DESIGN ON IT, QUITE HEFTY COST. AND THEN WE SO WE HAD ALL THE PROJECTS COME BACK WITH THAT DESIGN. SO WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING GUARDRAILS AROUND THE CITY. AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE TIME CONSUMPTION ON THAT. BUT AS YOU SAY, COUNCIL MEMBER HENRY, WE WILL BE MAKING SURE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS INFORMED SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INFORMED AND UPDATED AS WE GO ALONG WITH ANY PROJECT WE HAVE FROM HERE ON IN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON DATE AND ON TOP OF THINGS, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE APPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING ONLINE WITH OUR ON OUR WEBSITE IS A APP THAT WE USE. A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE CHANGED OVER TO BSN, WE LOST IT. BUT RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND HIT A LINK. SOME OF YOU BEEN AROUND MIGHT KNOW ABOUT IT. YOU HIT THAT LINK. IT TELLS ABOUT THAT PROJECT, THE TIMELINE ON THAT PROJECT AND THE COST OF IT AND WHAT IT'S FUNDED BY. SO THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF THE PARTS THAT WE WILL BE ADDING REFERENCE TO OUR PROJECTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. REITERATE, THE PROJECT IS STARTED. YEAH. IT HAD TO BE DONE IN ABOUT A WEEK. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS, IS THAT SUFFICE OR DO YOU NEED ADDITIONAL. I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE A TIMELINE OF WHEN IT IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED. 
          [04:40:04]
BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING. I EMAILED ON FEBRUARY 10TH, 2025. THEN I HEARD SOMETHING BACK ON APRIL 2025. THEN I SENT A FOLLOW UP EMAIL ON MAY 8TH, 2025. THEN MAY 12TH WAS WHEN I WAS ADVISED BASED ON THE REPORT, NO GUARDRAIL IS REQUIRED, BUT ONE WILL BE INSTALLED MOVING FORWARD WITH AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT. TO MOVE FORWARD WITH INSTALLATION. I ADVISE THE RESIDENT OF THAT. SHE'S BEEN ADVISED SHE THINKS THAT SHE'S GOING TO GET A GUARDRAIL. THE OTHER COMMUNICATION WAS BACK. THAT WAS MAY. HERE WE GO IN JULY. MAY I HAVE AN UPDATE? FOLLOW UP AUGUST 2025. THAT'S WHEN THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, HER COMMUNICATION STATED THIS IS A PRIORITY PROJECT ENSURING THE DESIGN IS TURNED AROUND QUICKLY. DECEMBER 8TH FOLLOW UP REQUEST DECEMBER 8TH. AGAIN, THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SAID THAT WE'LL UPDATE YOU SHORTLY. 
          DECEMBER 10TH FOLLOW UP REQUEST AGAIN SENT DECEMBER 16TH. FOLLOW UP REQUEST SENT DECEMBER 17TH. THAT'S DECEMBER 20TH. DECEMBER 17TH. THE LENGTH OF PROJECT CONCERN. WHOSE WARD IS THAT? A WELL, I WAS CONTACTED BY THIS LADY. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE EMAIL IN DECEMBER 18TH, TRANSPORTATION STAFF AND CONSULTANTS STATED A GUARDRAIL WAS NOT WARRANTED AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING CURB SIX INCHES. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW IN MARCH OR APRIL. LIKE AND THEN TO ADD ADDITIONAL INSULT TO INJURY, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL. WE HAVE A CALL THE RESIDENT AND LET HER KNOW. WELL, THIS IS WHAT THE CITY DECIDED. SO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. IF IT'S BEING DONE, I AM JUST GOING TO REQUEST A TIMELINE ON WHEN THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED, SO THAT I CAN CALL HER WITH ACCURATE INFORMATION. I DIGRESS. THE PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED NO LATER THAN NEXT WEEK, BUT ALSO STAFF HAS SPOKE WITH THE RESIDENT. WHY? THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD THIS HERE LONG BECAUSE LITTER HAS BEEN ON OUR COUNCIL AGENDA SINCE 2012, BUT NOT LITTER. WHAT IS THIS, THE STREET REPAVING? I'M CONFUSED. YES, IT IS A STREET REPAVING. WE WERE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE STREET REPAVING. I'VE ADDED VERY HEARTY PACKET. IN OUR STREET REPAVING IN SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES. AGAIN, THERE'S A BARRAGE OF EMAILS BETWEEN ME AND STAFF AND COMMUNITY LEADERS IN REGARDS TO THE CONDITION OF THAT REPAVING, AND I WANTED TO ASK WHO THE CONTRACTOR WAS, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE DOING REPAVING IN OTHER WARDS, SOMEONE FROM STAFF LIKE WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL? WE NEED A STRONG PROTOCOL SO THAT WHEN CONTRACTORS HAVE WORK, SOMEONE FROM THE CITY IS GOING OUT WITH A CHECK SHEET. I CURRENTLY RESIDE IN THE COMMUNITY OF HERITAGE PARK. THE STREET PICTURES ARE INSIDE HERITAGE PARK. I TOOK A FEW IN SUN VALLEY, WENT OVER TO LAKESIDE PRESERVE AND THEN I WENT DOWN WASHINGTON ROAD. THE HOUSES WILL I CURRENTLY RESIDE. THE STREET IS REPAVED IN THE FRONT OF OUR HOUSES, BUT WE HAVE ALLEYWAYS. TRY TO SEARCH WHO OWNS THE ALLEYWAYS. THE PLAT SAYS THEY'VE BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE CITY SINCE 2025. SO WHAT 
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I WANT TO SUGGEST IS WE HAVE TO GET A HANDLE ON THESE CONTRACTORS THAT DO WORK. AGAIN, I HAVE A VERY ENGAGED, CONSISTENT CONSTITUENCY BASE AND THEY CALL ME. SO THE LAST COMMUNICATION THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER WAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A PUNCH LIST. I EVEN MET MR. REEVES ON SITE. BUT IT LOOKS A MESS. AND THESE ARE COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. WASHINGTON ROAD IS THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE AND IT IS LOPSIDED. IT IS LUMPY. 
          NO ONE WAS OUT MANAGING THE CONTRACTORS. ONE SIDE OF THE STREET WAS BLOCKED OFF, BUT PEOPLE WERE STILL USING THE OTHER SIDE. I KNOW I'VE GONE INTO COMMUNITIES. THEY HAVE LET THOSE STREET PAVING JUST SETTLE AND THEN THE HOA. SOME OF THE HOA'S WEREN'T CONTACTED PROPERLY SO THAT PEOPLE COULD MOVE THEIR CARS OFF THE STREET. BUT I HAVE PROVIDED PHOTOGRAPHS AND I WOULD LIKE THIS ITEM TO GO ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA, BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THIS IS GOING TO BE REDONE. THE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED IS IT WAS JUST A KIND OF BACK AND FORTH, I MEAN, FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY LOOKS GOOD. OUR ALLEYWAYS, THE FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE 2026, AND OUR ALLEYWAYS LOOK LIKE 1983. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER COMMUNICATION. AND IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN AN HOA, IT HAS TO BE REQUIRED THAT SOMEONE FROM THE CITY MAKE CONTACT BECAUSE HOA'S MAY NOT HAVE THE CAPITAL TO REDO THE STREETS THAT MAY BELONG TO THEM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS PUT ON THE REGULAR WORK SESSION AGENDA TO DIRECT MR. JONES TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AN ACCURATE PUNCH LIST OF WHEN THESE ITEMS WILL BE ADDRESSED. AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SO EVERYONE CAN HAVE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THEIR PACKET. IT'S ALL DOWN. KIMMERIDGE, EVEN KIMMERIDGE, KIMMERIDGE, WASHINGTON ROAD. THESE ARE PICTURES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T LOOK APPEALING OR PLEASING. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE ASK. I WANTED SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ADDITIONAL STAFF TO COME UP WITH A LEGITIMATE TIMELINE AND PUNCH LIST OF WHEN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. MR. CITY MANAGER, WE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE THAT. WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THE CONTRACTORS. WE JUST WAIT FOR THEIR TIMELINE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PUNCH LIST. THEY HAVE DONE SOME IN ONE OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS ALREADY, SO WE'LL FOLLOW BACK UP AND HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION, IF YOU WOULD. WHEN YOU GET THAT, PREPARE A MEMO THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND ALSO AGAIN, THERE'S A MATTER OF THE ALLEYWAYS FOR THAT PARTICULAR STREET, SUN VALLEY. WHEN ARE THESE COMMUNITIES, OTHER COMMUNITIES, KIMMERIDGE OVER THERE BY ARDEN'S GARDEN. WE NEED INFORMATION AND ACCURATE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED JULY 2029. THANK YOU. YES, I HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO. WOULD IT BE HELPFUL IF THE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED HERE WERE SUMMARIZED FOR YOU IN YOUR STAFF? I'M SORRY. LET ME SPEAK DIRECTLY TO CITY MANAGER SUMMARIZED SO THAT WE CAN PUT TIMELINE, TIME AND DATE NEXT TO IT. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE DELAY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT, ASK YOU IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN EFFICIENTLY DO TO HELP STAFF TO EXPEDITE AND CHECK THESE ITEMS OFF IMMEDIATELY. SO YOU YEAH, MAYOR, THAT THAT WOULD WORK. I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS THAT THESE ITEMS APPEAR ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT ACTUALLY TALKING TO STAFF. SO IT'S HARD FOR US TO PREPARE BECAUSE WE ONLY GET THE NOTICE OF WHENEVER THE AGENDA COMES OUT ON SOME OF THESE COMMUNICATIONS. SO IF, IF, IF COUNCIL COULD PREPARE BY LETTING US KNOW THESE RESPONSES, WE COULD DO A LOT OF THIS OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING. BUT CERTAINLY THE MEETING THAT THAT'S THE WAY THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH, CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE EFFICIENT WAYS TO COMMUNICATE SO THAT WE CAN BE BETTER PREPARED AT THE MEETING OR EVEN BEFORE THE MEETING TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION. OKAY. 
          UNDERSTOOD. ANYBODY ELSE YOU HAVE? OKAY. SORRY, MR. COUNCILMAN. MADAM MAYOR, I JUST 
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WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE. I FIND THIS TO BE HIGHLY INEFFICIENT AND UNPRODUCTIVE. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT WHEN THIS BODY DECIDES TO GET TOGETHER, I THINK THAT THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM. NOT SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS HERE TODAY ABOUT COUNCIL TRANSITION AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WE SHOULD ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE PLACING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA SO THAT STAFF IS WELL AWARE AND PREPARED AND WHATEVER WE NEED AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WOULD HAVE THAT IN ADVANCE TO REVIEW THIS HAPPENS MEETING AFTER MEETING AFTER MEETING. AND IF WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THE CITIZENS BEING ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO CLEAN THIS UP. BECAUSE FOR THOSE WHO ARE TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR SCHEDULE TO BE HERE, IT'S INEFFICIENT, IT'S UNPRODUCTIVE. AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE SITTING AT HOME WATCHING IT, I'VE HAD CITIZENS TO TELL ME I HAD TO GO TO SLEEP AND WAKE UP AND GO BACK AND WATCH IT. THIS IS NOT RIGHT FOR STAFF AND IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS. THANK YOU. YES, AND I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU ALL. HOWEVER, THIS ORIGINAL EMAIL ORIGINATED BACK SEPTEMBER 2025. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EMAILS, IT HAD TO COME TO A WORK SESSION. IT HAD TO BE ADDRESSED PUBLICLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ADDRESSED THROUGH THE EMAIL COMMUNICATION. SO, I MEAN, AGAIN, I HAVE A VERY ENGAGED BASE AND WE HAVE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL. WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL. THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION IN SEPTEMBER. WE'RE IN JANUARY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR YOUR INPUT. THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WE'LL PROVIDE UPDATES ON EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO. 
          [III.13. Council Discussion and Possible Action on a Data Center Moratorium ]
OKAY. ARE WE MOVING ON? CAN WE MOVE ON TO. COUNCILWOMAN NUMBER 13? IS THE DATA CENTER MORATORIUM MOVING TO THE NEW COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I DO HAVE THIS AGENDA ITEM HERE. FIRST, PUT IT ON THE FIRST MEETING OF JANUARY. WE ALSO HAD A PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL HAD REQUESTED THAT IG COME AND PRESENT. SO WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION AROUND DATA CENTERS. AND SO I AM HAPPY TO JUST SUMMARIZE MY COMMENTS FROM EARLIER. DATA CENTERS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT A LOT OF OUR LOCAL AND NATIONAL MEETINGS, WHETHER THAT IS GMA, WHETHER IT'S IG, MIAC, NLC, ALL OF THOSE THINGS IT WAS ALLUDED TO EARLIER TODAY IN TERMS OF WHERE DATA CENTERS ARE GOING IN THE METRO AREA. THE LAST SOUTH FULTON MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION THAT I ATTENDED, IT WAS STATED THAT THERE ARE SEVEN DATA CENTERS THAT ARE SLATED TO COME TO THE AREA, ALL OF WHICH ARE SOUTH OF I-20. DATA CENTERS CONSUME A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER. IT WOULD BE A STRAIN ON OUR ELECTRICAL UTILITY AS WELL AS OUR WATER UTILITY. AND SO I WAS INTRODUCING THE MORATORIUM TO ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER DATA AND ANALYTICS, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT POLICY WE THINK WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR OUR CITY. AND SO HAPPY FOR THIS TO GO ON THE NEXT TUESDAY. AGENDA FOR ACTION. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. SO I JUST I KNOW YOU JUST MENTIONED THE GATHERING DATA FOR THIS MORATORIUM. IS IT TO THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. WOULD WE I GUESS COUNCILMAN ATKINS, WOULD THIS THE GOAL OF THE MORATORIUM IS TO GATHER. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? SO, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FOR LIKE 180 DAYS, CORRECT, FOR SIX MONTHS. SO I THINK, ARE WE STILL GOING TO BE IN THE SAME BOAT ONCE THE MORATORIUM ENDS? ARE WE TRYING TO AMEND? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S LIKE ONE INDUSTRIAL THAT ALLOWS FOR DATA CENTERS. ARE WE TRYING TO ULTIMATELY AMEND WHAT'S ALLOWED IS THAT I GUESS THE PLAN? NO, THE PLAN IS FOR THE SIX MONTH PERIOD WOULD BE WHAT I WAS JUST STATING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WILL OF THE BODY WILL BE. HOWEVER, WHAT I'VE JUST STATED IS THAT IT IS. 
          IT IS KNOWN THAT DATA CENTERS CONSUME A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ELECTRIC UTILITY. MANY DATA CENTERS CONSUME ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY AS LIKE 2000 HOUSES. I MEAN, 200,000 HOUSES. LIKE, IT'S A LOT OF ENERGY. IT'S A LOT OF ELECTRICITY. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. WE ARE AN ELECTRIC CITY. THERE ARE DATA CENTERS GOING IN OTHER PLACES WHERE 
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THEY MAY NOT BE ELECTRIC CITIES. IT IS NOT A SECRET THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF POWER OUTAGES, AND OUR ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO HARDEN OUR GRID. AND SO RIGHT NOW THE DATA CENTER THAT IS WITHIN EASTPOINT IS ON GEORGIA POWER IS NOT ON EASTPOINT POWER. SO WE'RE NOT FEELING THAT EFFECT. BUT DATA CENTERS DO CONSUME A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER. SO WE'RE ALSO A WATER CITY. SO THE SIX MONTHS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GATHER ALL THE DATA. THE PRESENTATION TODAY, AS I WAS TELLING SHOW OR MR. GWYNNE IS, DEPENDING UPON WHO YOU'RE GETTING A PRESENTATION FROM, IS GOING TO DICTATE THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT YOU GET. SO A LOT OF THE MEETINGS THAT I'VE BEEN GOING TO, AND EVEN AS SHOW WAS NODDING HIS HEAD IN DECEMBER WHEN THERE WAS A PRESENTATION OF ECG, THERE WERE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT PUSHED BACK BECAUSE THEY WERE STATING THAT, WELL, THIS IS ONE PERSPECTIVE, BUT WHAT'S THE OTHER PERSPECTIVE? BECAUSE AGAIN, IT CONSUMES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY. IF WE TAKE THE SIX MONTHS, GATHER THE DATA, THE BODY MAKES A DECISION. WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR POLICY? WILL WE BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN, OR DO WE WANT TO ALSO TO TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW DATA CENTERS UNDER I-1? THE OTHER THING THAT HAS COME UP IN DISCUSSIONS IN SOME OF THESE MEETINGS IS THAT TODAY, DATA CENTERS ARE HUGE MAMMOTH STRUCTURES. AS TECHNOLOGY CONTINUES TO IMPROVE, SOME PEOPLE ARE WONDERING, WILL THAT MUCH SPACE EVEN BE NEEDED FOR A DATA CENTER? AND SO IF IT'S NOT, THEN YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT THESE BIG STRUCTURES AND WE NEED ONLY A FRACTION OF THAT FOR DATA CENTERS TO RUN. SO THEN THE CITY IS LEFT WITH THESE BIG STRUCTURES AND THEN WHAT TO DO WITH THEM NEXT. AND SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GATHER INFORMATION, TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND MAKE A DECISION AS A BODY. SO I GUESS THAT KIND OF WAS THE QUESTION. SO THE END GAME IS IT TAKES THESE SIX MONTHS GATHER INFORMATION. BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THAT GOING TO RESULT IN US AMENDING THE CURRENT CODE. BECAUSE IF NOT, WE WOULD BE BACK IN THE SAME BOAT IF IT'S STILL ALLOWABLE IN THE ORDINANCE. BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE VOTES OF THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE. I COULDN'T SPEAK FOR ANYTHING. 
          I'M JUST ASKING, IS THAT TO GO? I'M NOT. I KNOW IT STILL HASN'T COME DOWN. OH YES. I MEAN, THE GOAL IS TO GATHER INFORMATION SO THAT WE MAY COME UP WITH A POLICY THAT WE THINK WILL BE BEST SUITED FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE AN ELECTRIC CITY AND A WATER CITY. THANK YOU. AND MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, I GUESS THIS IS THE QUESTION. WOULD IT JUST BE A SIMPLE AMENDMENT? SO THINGS LIKE A ZONING LAWS, IF WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN THE ZONING LAW, WHAT IS THERE A PARTICULAR PROCESS OR IS THIS CAN YOU EXPOUND ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE A TEXT AMENDMENT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, DATA CENTERS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE I1 AND I2. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO IF IT IS GOING TO BE A CHANGE TO EITHER ALLOW THEM BY SOME USE PERMIT WHERE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE SOME CONDITIONS OR TO DISALLOW THEM, PUT SOME TYPE OF REGULATIONS AROUND THEM. IT WOULD BE A TEXT AMENDMENT TO YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE FIRST STEP IS A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION. IT WOULD BE A STAFF INITIATED OR A CITY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT. IT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, THEN A VOTE. THEIR VOTE IS ONLY A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BODY. 
          THEN THIS BODY DOES ITS OWN PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN A VOTE. SO IT AND AND THERE'S ADVERTISEMENT REQUIREMENTS. SO IT REALLY IS AN ABOUT A THREE MONTH PROCESS BECAUSE YOU GOTTA ADVERTISE A MINIMUM OF 15 DAYS MAX, 4045 DAYS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING, THE ONE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES AND THE ONE THAT THIS BODY DOES. I THINK I HAVE A BETTER APPROACH. 
          I THINK I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF IT. SO I THINK THE END GAME, IF IF WE SO CHOOSE TO CHANGE OUR POLICY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE SIX MONTHS TO DO RESEARCH AND INFORM OURSELVES. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT COMES TO A VOTE. AND THEN I GUESS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET ME ALSO ADD, IF I CAN, MADAM MAYOR, THAT THE WAY THE MORATORIUM IS WRITTEN IS SIX MONTHS OR WHEN THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS DONE, WHICHEVER COMES SOONER. SO YOU MAY NOT NEED THE ENTIRE SIX MONTHS. YOU MIGHT. AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITY IF YOU GET TO THE CLOSE TO THE END OF THE SIX MONTHS, IF THIS BODY IS NOT READY OR THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ALWAYS EXTEND IT. IS THERE ANY RULES SURROUNDING MORATORIUMS IN GENERAL? DOES IT HAVE TO BE AN EMERGENCY? DOES IT HAVE. NO. SO MORATORIUMS ARE USED BY LOCAL GOVERNING AUTHORITIES TO SIMPLY PUT A STOP TO SOMETHING RIGHT UNTIL THEY CAN CHANGE IT, 
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IMPROVE IT, DELETE SOMETHING, ADD SOMETHING. IT JUST REQUIRES THE TEXT. OBVIOUSLY THE ORDINANCE OR THE RESOLUTION, WHICH THERE'S A DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE A VOTE BY THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY TO APPROVE IT, AND THEN THE WORK TO BE DONE, THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO DO MORATORIUMS JUST TO DO IT. THERE SHOULD BE SOME WORK BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT YOU RAISED IN THE MORATORIUM. SO FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS IN THIS CASE, RIGHT, WE THERE HAS BEEN IN THE MORATORIUM, THERE'S AN ARTICULATION OF EVERYTHING YOU HEARD TODAY. DATA CENTERS COULD POSSIBLY USE A LOT OF WATER, USE A LOT OF ELECTRICITY. WE ARE WATER, ELECTRICITY CITY. 
          SO BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT. WHICH GIVES YOU ALL KNOW AUTHORITY TO DISALLOW THEM OR TO CONDITION THEM. LET'S PUT A STOP. LET'S ADDRESS THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS CITY. AND THEN DO THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AS NECESSARY. AND THEN THE MORATORIUM IS OVER. 
          AND THEN EVERYBODY THEREAFTER HAS TO ABIDE BY WHATEVER NEW RULES Y'ALL ADOPT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY LIABILITY IN THAT? SO SAY IF A COMPANY WANTED TO COME OR SOMETHING. NO OKAY. THERE'S ONLY LIABILITY. AND THIS IS IN THE TEXT. IF SOMEONE IS CURRENTLY LIKE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, LIKE SAY THERE'S AN APPLICANT. WELL, HERE'S THE THING. IT'S BECAUSE MORATORIUMS ARE NOT. CONDITIONED. SO HERE'S HERE HERE'S A BETTER EXAMPLE. SAY THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO REZONE TO A I-1 OR AN I-2 TO BE TO HAVE A DATA CENTER AND SAY THEY CURRENTLY HAVE PAID THE MONEY. THEY'RE REZONING IS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          IT'S ABOUT TO GET TO Y'ALL. AND THEN YOU PUT THE MORATORIUM. THAT PERSON RIGHT IS IN THE MIDST OF IT, RIGHT? THEY DIDN'T GET APPROVED BEFORE THE MORATORIUM. THEY HAVE APPEAL RIGHTS TO APPEAL TO YOU TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE MORATORIUM. WE'RE THERE'S NO LIABILITY LIKE IN THAT. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN STILL DO THE MORATORIUM, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO ENTERTAIN ANYONE THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE WHILE THE MORATORIUM IS BEING CONSIDERED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HEMMINGS, THEN, COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL, COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER, AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS. COUNCILMAN ATKINS, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE TIME SENSITIVITY OF THIS, THIS ISSUE WITHOUT DISCLOSING? REAL ESTATE ITEMS THAT WOULD BE RESERVED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES. SO AS IT WAS PRESENTED TODAY, YOU KNOW, DATA CENTERS DO REQUIRE LARGE SWATHS OF LAND. AND SO MY CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE LARGE SWATHS OF LAND. WE ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE PERIMETER. WE'RE LOCATED GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSE TO A LOT OF MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, 7585, 285, 166. SO IT CREATES A VERY ATTRACTIVE LOCATION FOR SUCH BUSINESSES. AND I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN THESE CONFERENCES AND MEETINGS THAT I GO TO, IS THAT TODAY, DATA CENTERS ARE THIS BIG. AS TECHNOLOGY CONTINUES TO IMPROVE, THEY MAY ONLY NEED TO BE THIS BIG. AND THEN WE'RE LEFT WITH THIS VALUABLE REAL ESTATE CLOSE TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. AND THEN THE THE CONSUMPTION OF ENERGY, WATER AND ELECTRICITY. SO TO YOUR POINT, WE'VE GOT SOME LAND WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE THAT WOULD MEET THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR DATA CENTERS. AND SO I DO FEEL A BIT OF EXPOSURE BECAUSE OF THAT. AND IN MR. WYNN'S PRESENTATION, HE DESCRIBED THAT IGG AND AG WOULD HELP US NEGOTIATE THE DEAL, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT WORKING WITH YOU KNOW, I THINK HE HE DESCRIBED SOMETHING ABOUT ATTRACTING THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT DO YOU CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT OTHER TYPES OF ENTITIES, WHETHER THEY ARE NONPROFIT PUBLIC HEALTH ENTITIES, COMMUNITY BASED ENTITIES THAT MIGHT HELP US NEGOTIATE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, THAT MIGHT HELP US WITH SOME OF THE RISK MANAGEMENT OF THE OTHER CONCERNS, AND WHY THE MORATORIUM WOULD OR WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO INVITE THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE GROUPS, TO COME AND ADVISE US. WE HEARD A PRESENTATION TODAY ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, BUT WE DID NOT 
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HEAR ONE ABOUT THE IMPACT TO QUALITY OF LIFE, PUBLIC HEALTH, ETCETERA. SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS MORATORIUM AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER ENGAGE SO THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST RISK MANAGEMENT POLICY OR STRATEGY? YES. SO AS IT RELATES TO ONE OF THE PIECES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, COMMUNITY BENEFITS, I REALLY WOULD DEFER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE COMMUNITY BENEFITS WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS IS A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE. AND THERE'S SOME LAW AROUND HOW YOU APPROACH AND ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. AND SO I'D REALLY DEFER THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO SPEAK TO THOSE THINGS AROUND COMMUNITY BENEFITS. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, MADAM ATTORNEY, I CERTAINLY CAN. BUT LET ME JUST PUT THIS CAVEAT IS THAT IF A PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED I1 AND I2, IT WON'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED ANY PERMISSION FROM THIS BODY TO PUT A DATA CENTER BECAUSE IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT. 
          IF IT'S A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY ZONED. I WANT OR I TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS PIECE NEEDS TO NOT BE LIKE A QUID PRO QUO TYPE APPROACH, WHEREIN IF YOU DO THIS, WE'LL DO THIS. 
          RATHER. AND I JUST TOOK A NOTE ON THIS. I'M LOOKING FOR IT. THERE WAS SOMETHING RATHER. IT NEEDS TO BE THAT WHATEVER BENEFIT THAT THE DEVELOPER RETURNS TO THE COMMUNITY, IT SHOULD LESSEN THE IMPACT OF THEIR PRESENCE IN THAT COMMUNITY. AND. ALL RIGHT. 
          COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. YES. 
          THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THE TIME SENSITIVITY OF THIS ISSUE. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A VULNERABILITY RIGHT NOW IN THAT WE WE DO HAVE LARGE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED APPROPRIATELY, AND IT'S I1 AND I2 THAT ALLOW IT. AND WE DO HAVE I2 IN WARD B, AND THEY DO NOT NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO COME IN. SO WE WOULD HAVE NO IDEA THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE. AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A BIT MORE URGENCY WITH THIS. BECAUSE IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE MADE, WE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN. YES. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, NUMBER ONE, WE ARE ALREADY HAVING OUR PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCES REWRITTEN. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A STATUS UPDATE ON THAT. NUMBER TWO, YOU MENTIONED I1 AND I2 ARE IN WARD B, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER THAT WE LOOK AT WARDS A, B, C, AND D. NO, I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST LOOK AT ALL OF OUR WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF WHAT IS ZONED AND WHERE COULD A DATA CENTER POSSIBLY BE. SO THE MORATORIUM COVERS THE ENTIRE CITY. OKAY. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT IN WARD D AND C IS SPECIFICALLY ZONED I1 AND I2. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION FOR US TO KNOW. YEAH, IT WILL SHOW YOU. YES, YES AND WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS I WISH WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS NEAR ME. BUT ANOTHER WAY, AS I WAS READING UP ON DATA CENTERS, YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM TO BE GREEN. YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM TO PUT UP CERTAIN THINGS THAT IS ESTHETICALLY PLEASING. BUT I KNOW WHAT I'M LEANING TOWARDS. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT WE OWN, WHAT IS ZONED FOR, NOT WHAT WE OWN, BUT WHAT IS ZONED FOR I1 AND I2. AND THEN WE POSSIBLY WORK TOWARD, I MEAN, IS IT IS IT RIDICULOUS FOR US TO THINK THAT WE COULD REZONE THOSE PROPERTIES INTO HOUSING? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF MILTON DID. THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T. YEAH, THAT'S WHY THEY 
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DON'T HAVE DATA CENTERS. WHEN I WENT TO A DATA CENTER MEETING SOMEONE FROM THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION, A QUESTION WAS ASKED IN A ROOM, WELL, HOW COME THEY DON'T HAVE DATA CENTERS IN THE NORTH? AND WHEN HE PULLED UP THE SCREEN FOR THE CITY OF MILTON, THEY HAD HOUSES, RESIDENTIAL, LIGHT, COMMERCIAL, THINGS THAT PEOPLE COULD ENJOY. COULD WE REZONE SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES FROM I ONE TO I2 TO PUBLIC SPACES? I MEAN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BASED UPON WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AT. I THINK ALSO, MY ITEM KIND OF TIES INTO THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE CITIES HAVE BEEN BOMBARDED WITH THESE DATA CENTERS. BUT THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS IN MILTON, THEY PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT THE FULTON COUNTY, THE THE THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR FULTON COUNTY CAN'T COME INTO THEIR CITIES WITHOUT LETTING COUNCIL KNOW THEIR INTENT. THEY HAVE TO. SO IT'S A BIG I DID I WAS NOT ABLE TO ACCESS THE ENTIRE ARTICLE, BUT I DID PROVIDE TWO LINKS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THIS AS WELL. A RESOLUTION. THAT IS HOW THEY'RE GETTING THESE LARGE SWATHS OF LAND WITH NO TAX BREAKS. YES. COUNCILMAN ADKINS AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING'S WAS ON THE PHONE. MADAM MAYOR, GIVEN THE DISCUSSION AROUND TIME SENSITIVITY, I WOULD MOVE, AS WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING TONIGHT TO SUSPEND THE WORK SESSION POLICY ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO VOTE ON THIS CURRENT ITEM. AND SECOND TO. SUSPEND THE IT'S BEEN MOVING SECOND, TO SUSPEND THE POLICY AND TO HAVE A VOTE ON THE ITEM. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION? I THINK WE IS THERE AN URGENCY LIKE AN EMERGENCY? I THINK WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS EARLIER. I MEAN, I'M SORRY. MAY I INTERRUPT THE PUBLIC? DOES ANYBODY DRIVE A BLACK RANGE ROVER? OH, SOMEBODY BROKE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. 
          SOMEBODY BROKE INTO. THAT. OKAY. I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT. WOW. SORRY TO HEAR THAT. SO. OKAY. 
          IT'S DARK OVER THERE. OKAY. I HAVE A FRIENDLY. SO TO FINISH YOUR. SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN, TO FINISH YOUR REQUEST FOR THE TO MOVE THE TO TO SUSPEND THE RULES. AND NOW YOU'RE THE SECOND FOLLOW UP WAS TO. OH, I DIDN'T MAKE A SECOND MOTION YET BECAUSE COUNCILWOMAN DOCTOR ROGERS WAS IN FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY, SO MARK MITCHELL GO AHEAD DOCTOR. ALRIGHT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION THAT WE START LOOKING AT RESOLUTIONS THAT KIND OF MIRROR WHAT SANDY SPRINGS AND MILTON HAS DONE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF FULTON COUNTY. THAT MOTION TO SECOND MOTION THAT I THINK IT ALLOWS US TO BE MADE, THAT YOU ADD IT TO THE VOTE ON THE MORATORIUM, THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M ADDING. NO, NO, NO, JUST A OH, I WAS IN FOR DISCUSSION. I'M SORRY. YEAH. IT'S LATE. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT DISCUSSION. 
          NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. I THINK THAT WHAT DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS WAS SAYING IS I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS A PART OF THE MORATORIUM. YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE BEST PRACTICES. YES, BUT THAT'S NOT QUITE. YEAH. WE'RE NOT THERE YET. RIGHT. OKAY. MOTION OKAY. 
          VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED. ANY DISCUSSION? SORRY, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. AND IF IT'S AGREEABLE TO DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS, I'M GOING TO TRY TO PUT WHAT I THINK SHE WANTS IN THIS. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE OR ADOPT THE CURRENT RESOLUTION. THAT WOULD. WHAT'S IT CALLED? A DATA CENTER MORATORIUM AND EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE MORATORIUM TO INCLUDE FURTHER INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE 
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DONE. THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY'S ROLE OF FULTON COUNTY AND AND ALSO PROVIDE US WHERE ARE THE I1 AND I2 PROPERTIES AND A REPORT ON THE I ONE. AM I MIXING TWO ITEMS THOUGH? OKAY. AND A REPORT ON THE I1 AND I2 PROPERTY. SO LET ME RESTATE THE MOTION. SO I AM MOVING THAT WE ADOPT THE MORATORIUM AND THAT WE EXPAND THE SCOPE OF IT TO INCLUDE INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT SOME OTHER CITY'S BEST PRACTICES HAVE BEEN TO INCLUDE A REPORT ON ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY. I WANT AN I2 ZONED PROPERTIES AND TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT THE FULTON COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY'S ROLE. THERE. I'M DONE. SECOND DISCUSSION. MAYOR DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. OKAY, MOVE IN SECOND. OKAY. GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE QUIET. OKAY. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. ALL I WANT TO SAY IS YOU CAN RESEARCH WHAT MILTON AND SANDY SPRINGS HAS ALREADY DONE. CAN I ALSO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE REPORT? WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION OR IS IT JUST TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION? WE'D LIKE TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW BY WARD OF EACH OF THE CURRENTLY ZONED PROPERTIES I ONE AND I TO. ASK FOR A MAP WOULD DO. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. ARE WE TALKING VISUAL OR SOME TYPE OF BREAKDOWN? WE'D LIKE A MAP AND WE'D LIKE THE THE ADDRESSES ALSO LISTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. CUSTOMER ADKINS YES. AND AS A PART OF THAT, AND I COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING MAY HAVE STATED THIS, BUT MR. CITY MANAGER, IN ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS, JUST BEST PRACTICES NOT ONLY FOR MILTON AND SANDY SPRINGS, BUT OTHER CITIES THAT ARE GRAPPLING WITH AND YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE THINK TANKS SAYING ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND THE IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE ON CITIES AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS? SO IS THAT FOCUS IN GEORGIA? IT COULD BE ANYWHERE. OKAY. YEAH. ONE MORE THING. IT WAS JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. CAN WE JUST REMOVE DATA CENTERS OUT? IS IT APPROPRIATE TO TAKE DATA CENTERS OUT ALTOGETHER? I MEAN. 
          I I HAVE IT AND. 
          [III.15. Discussion and Possible Action on Developing a Citywide Litter Prevention and Enforcement  Plan ]
VERY BRIEFLY WITH ITEM 15, LITTER HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA SINCE 2012. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT LITTER CONTINUES TO BE A PERSISTENT ISSUE AFFECTING THE CITY'S APPEARANCE, ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          WHILE CLEANUP EFFORTS OCCUR PERIODICALLY, THE ABSENCE OF A COORDINATED, DATA DRIVEN STRATEGY LIMITS THE CITY. THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REDUCE LITTER IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE CITY, SINCE WE ARE EMBARKING ON THE NEW FISCAL BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO JUST THINK ABOUT SHOULD WE CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF FOUR TRUCKS FOR EACH WARD FOR LITTER PICK UP? THEY EMPTY TRASH RECEPTACLES THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE WARDS A, B, C, AND D WITH TWO DEDICATED EMPLOYEES. IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA AND IT HAS WORKED WONDERS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE 30 6090 DAY PLAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GDOT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING EMPLOYEES FROM OUR MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM DO LITTER PICKUPS. AND IT IS STILL WE ARE STILL MISSING THE MARK. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS A CLEAN COMMUNITY COMMISSION, WHICH IS IN OUR CHARTER, SECTION 75001. THEY CONSIDER A PLANNING, COORDINATION AND ADVOCACY ARM OF A COMMUNITY'S LITTER PREVENTION EFFORTS, NOT THE CREW THAT PHYSICALLY PICKS UP TRASH, BUT THE GROUP THAT 
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HELPS MAKE SURE CLEANUP IS ORGANIZED, FUNDED AND SUSTAINED. WE CAN JUST TALK FURTHER ABOUT THAT LATER ON, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START THINKING CREATIVELY WITH HOW TO KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN. LITTER IS LOW HANGING FRUIT, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SINCE 2012. IT'S VERY LOW HANGING FRUIT, AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO BE CONSIDERED. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. AND CAN I ADD A FEW THINGS. SO THAT'S I AGREE WITH WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          AND THEN IF WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT PROGRAMS BLOCK BY BLOCK, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD REALLY HELP AS WELL. AND ALSO I JUST GOT A REQUEST FROM THE CENTER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD TO ADD IN MORE TRASH CANS IN SOME OF THE ALONG SOME OF THE STREETS THAT ARE HEAVILY LITTERED. AND I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE THERE NEED TO BE SOME COORDINATION WITH SANITATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND PICK UP THE TRASH ON A REGULAR BASIS. BUT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP TRY TO MITIGATE OUR LITTER ISSUES WOULD BE GREAT. CONTINUE TO HAVE DIALOG AND DISCUSSION, BUT THAT IS A SECTION OF OUR CHARTER THAT I THINK THAT WE HAVEN'T DELVED INTO YET. IT'S 25 INDIVIDUALS. I'M SURE THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH FIVE, TEN, 15, 20, MAYBE 4 TO 5 PEOPLE OUT OF EACH WARD TO HELP US WITH THE LITTER. THIS IS NOT THEM CLEANING UP, BUT JUST PROVIDING AN EXTRA TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX TO KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN. IT WAS MENTIONED TONIGHT HOTSPOT AREAS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOTSPOT AREAS, BARRICADING THEM OFF, CHECKING THEM FREQUENTLY, FREQUENTLY. MAYBE THROUGH THIS GROUP THEY CAN HAVE A CHECK SHEET THAT THEY PROVIDE TO COUNCIL. HERE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THE. CLEAN. THE CITYWIDE LITTER PREVENTION AND ENFORCEMENT. WE TALKED ABOUT STAFF GOING INTO SCHOOLS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE THINGS. WE NEED A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE LITTER AND KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY I YIELD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IT CAN GO TO FEBRUARY'S WORKSHOP SESSION. IF THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. OKAY. YOU CAN ADD BOTH OUR NAMES. SHE'S GOING TO COME UP WITH HER DISSERTATION. MADAM MAYOR, DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO HAVE A RECESS? BECAUSE HAVE WE LOST QUORUM? NO. OKAY, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. DID I HAVE THE LAST ITEM? OH. YEAH. WE'RE DONE. ARE WE? OH. OH. I'M SORRY. OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          [IV.30. Discussion on Establishing a Standardized Council Transition and Training Process]
YES. I'D LIKE TO GO VERY QUICKLY. MADAM CITY DEPUTY CLERK. DO YOU HAVE THE CLICKER SO THAT I CAN ADVANCE MY SLIDES? MY SLIDES ARE. MY SLIDES WERE EMAILED AND THEY'RE ALSO PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET OF. OKAY. WHILE SHE'S PULLING IT UP. YEAH, WE HAVE THE AGENDA I, I THERE IS A VERY DETAILED OVERVIEW. AND SO GIVEN THE HOUR AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE OPPORTUNITY. WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE STANDARDIZE COUNCIL ONBOARDING AND TRAINING. I THINK THAT TONIGHT HAS DEMONSTRATED IN PART, THAT THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US ALL TO IMPROVE OUR PERFORMANCE. I THINK THAT OUR OUR REPRESENTATION TO THE LARGER COMMUNITY AND TO THE STAFF SHOULD SET THE PRECEDENT AND THE LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE THAT WE EXPECT TO SEE. AND WHEN WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW ALL OF THE THINGS THAT. THAT THAT ENTAIL OR THAT DESCRIBE OUR FULL ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES, WE NOT ONLY RUN A RISK OF HAVING MEETINGS THAT ARE INEFFICIENT AND INEFFECTIVE, BUT WE ALSO RUN THE RISK OF HAVING SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES. 
          SO I SHARED AT THE FIRST MEETING THAT I HAVE LIKE A LEGISLATIVE MISSION STATEMENT FOR THIS THIS YEAR. AND PART OF THAT IS AROUND EXCEPTIONAL KIND OF LEADERSHIP. SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE. ACTUALLY LET ME LET ME JUST FLIP TO IT REAL QUICK. SO I DON'T WANT TO I ACTUALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I'M GIVING YOU. THAT I'M PUTTING IN 
          [05:25:09]
MY AGENDA TO LOOK AT IT SOME MORE. HERE IT IS. LET ME JUST EMAIL IT TO YOU. JUST. OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. HERE IT IS. YOU GOT IT UP. OKAY. PAGE 624. OKAY, SO THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK IS GOING TO TURN TO PAGE 624. BUT YOU PROBABLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERUSE THIS ITEM ALREADY. WHAT IT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO, AND WHAT I'VE PROVIDED FOR YOU IN THE PRESENTATION ARE SOME BACKGROUND AND RATIONALE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, I SHARE SOME DETAILS THAT TRAINING IS A BEST PRACTICE AND A STATE INTEREST. SO WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE REQUIRED BY GMA TO TAKE THE STATE LEVEL MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS TRAINING. BUT MANY CITIES HAVE A HAVE A PRACTICE WHERE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND OTHER DIRECT REPORTS TO THAT BODY WILL PULL TOGETHER AN ORIENTATION. THE PURPOSE OF THE ORIENTATION WOULD ALLOW US TO FIRST AND FOREMOST, UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL BOUNDS OF OUR ROLES AND AUTHORITY. SECOND, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO ORIENT OURSELVES TO THE OPERATIONS OF THIS OF THE CITY AND THE SERVICES THAT IT PROVIDES. I KNOW THAT COMING FROM BEING, YOU KNOW, A RESIDENT AND NOW STEPPING INTO THIS ROLE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS AND EXPECTATIONS THAT I'M LEARNING ARE NECESSARY TO DUTIFULLY FULFILL THIS ROLE. ON SLIDE SIX, I GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW A COUNCIL MEMBER ORIENTATION ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO STRENGTHEN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR DIRECT REPORTS. WHEN I LOOKED AT DATA FROM OTHER CITIES, AGAIN, IT DESCRIBED THAT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR DIRECT REPORTS IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, HELP US SINK OR SWIM AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY. AND WHAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IN THIS TRAINING IS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR ROLES INTERSECT AND OVERLAP, AND THEN THE DISTINCTIONS OF OUR ROLES, BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE MOST EFFECTIVE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT OUR DIRECT REPORTS ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS, HENCE THE REASON THEY'VE BEEN HIRED IN THESE POSITIONS. AND SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE AS A PART OF THIS ORIENTATION, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GO THROUGH BOTH THE STATE AND LOCAL AND FEDERAL LAWS THAT APPLY TO OUR, OUR, OUR PERFORMANCE, I THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AVOID MAKING MISTAKES THAT SHE HAS PROBABLY SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF HER 20 YEAR CAREER THAT COULD RESULT IN COSTLY LITIGATION. SO MY ASK OF COUNCIL TONIGHT IS TO ALLOW US TO TO WHAT IS MY WHAT IS MY ASK? YEAH. BEFORE I GO TO THE ASK, I WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THESE IN THIS COUNCIL TRAINING. WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS A RETREAT THAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF OUR NORMAL WORK SESSION OR WORK OR OUR NORMAL AGENDA. IT WOULD BE PROBABLY A DAY LONG RETREAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THE DIRECT REPORTS WOULD COLLABORATE ON WHAT THE ORIENTATION SCHEDULE WOULD BE, THE TOPICS THAT THEY MIGHT COVER INCLUDE COUNCIL ROLES, AUTHORITY AND GOVERNING FRAMEWORK, LEGAL ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS, COUNCIL PROCEDURES AND LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS, CITY OPERATIONS SERVICES, BUDGET AND USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, CITY OVERVIEW, ASSETS, NATURAL RESOURCES, ONGOING PROJECTS AND STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. BOARDS APPOINT APPOINTMENTS, COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. THE INTENTION THAT THIS INFORMATION WOULD BE ALSO. COLLATED INTO A HANDBOOK THAT WE WOULD ALL HAVE ACCESS TO AND THUS BE ABLE TO REFER TO THROUGHOUT. AND IMPORTANTLY, THIS WOULD BE A REQUIRED TRAINING FOR ALL NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND IT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN EVERY TWO YEARS AT A NEW ELECTED, AT A NEW ELECTION CYCLE. SO MY ASK OF COUNCIL TONIGHT IS THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT THE RESOLUTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON JANUARY 20TH THAT WE OFFER AUTHORIZE THE USE OF FY 26 MISCELLANEOUS EVENTS, AND I LIST OUT THE GENERAL LEDGER NUMBER TO COVER OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR A FEBRUARY HEAR ME FEBRUARY 2026 COUNCIL ORIENTATION, MEANING THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD MOVE ON PRETTY QUICKLY GIVEN KIND OF THIS TURNOVER AND COUNCIL, AND THAT WE WOULD AUTHORIZE AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO INCORPORATE THIS TRAINING INTO ONGOING AND FUTURE BUDGETS. AND I YIELD AND WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. YES. I'M IN. IS ANYONE ELSE IN. ALRIGHT. AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS 
          [05:30:09]
TIME IS NO ONE'S FRIEND IN SOME OF THIS RESPONSIBILITY SHOULD BE PLACED BACK ON COUNCIL. BUT I DO LIKE THIS IDEA. BUT WE NOT ONLY HAVE GMA, WE HAVE THE CARL VINSON INSTITUTE, WE HAVE THE HAROLD L F HOLTZ MUNICIPAL INSTITUTE, GEORGE'S MAYOR LEADERSHIP ACADEMY AND ALSO GEORGIA CITIES. EVERYONE'S ON BOARDING PROCESS WAS DIFFERENT. AND THIS IS WHAT I DISCUSSED EARLIER. WHEN I CAME ON BOARD. WE DID THAT. THE PREVIOUS CITY CLERK. SHE'S SCHEDULED A DAY. 
          WE GOT OUR BADGE. WE MET WITH OUR DIRECT REPORTS. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ENSURE IS THAT WE. HAVE FOUR DIRECT REPORTS. THAT'S IT. IF WE WANT TO HEAR FROM OTHER OFFICES, I THINK THAT, WELL, WHATEVER SCHEDULE IS BUILT OUT, THAT CAN HAPPEN. BUT SOME RESPONSIBILITY SHOULD BE PLACED ON COUNCIL MEMBERS. I KNOW THAT I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF ONLINE CLASSES BECAUSE OF MY WORK SCHEDULE. I'M NOT ABLE TO GO TO A PHYSICAL PLACE MAYBE DURING THE SUMMERS, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OPTIONS AND OH, I FORGOT. THE OTHER ONE IS THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES THAT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR US. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE DO NEED AN ONBOARDING PROCESS. BUT SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS A FIRST 30 DAYS IN OFFICE CHECKLIST, WHICH PUTS THE RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON THE COUNCIL MEMBER. DID YOU MEET WITH GOVERNANCE AND LEGAL RELATIONSHIP BUILDING, OPERATIONAL AWARENESS, COMMUNICATION AND CONDUCT? SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FOR THE DAY THAT REFLECTS, HEY, YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE 30 DAYS. IS YOUR CHECKLIST COMPLETED? SHOULD I HAVE TO WAIT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO GO IN? RIGHT. DO I NEED TO WAIT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO GET THERE? NO, YOU CAN GO. IN IF THERE AREN'T ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. I DO WANT TO RESPOND. PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WOULD HAVE THE DIRECT REPORTS DEVELOP THIS TRAINING IS BECAUSE THOSE NATIONAL AND STATE LEVEL TRAININGS FAIL TO CAPTURE THE NUANCE OF OUR CITY. 
          AND SO I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THOSE RESOURCES EXIST. AND I HAVE ALSO DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE TO INVESTIGATE THEM. IN THE PRESENTATION, I OFFER YOU REFERENCE MATERIAL. IT WAS SOURCED FROM THE CITY CLERK'S LIKE WHATEVER THE NATIONAL BODY IS THAT GOVERNS CITY CLERK'S. 
          IT WAS ALSO SOURCED FROM BEST PRACTICES FROM A PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND POLICY BACKGROUND. SO THE INTENTION IS, YES, THE ONUS IS ON COUNCIL TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. BUT SOMETHING THAT I'VE READ THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME IS THE ABILITY FOR US TO GET ELECTED DOES NOT MAKE US GOOD GOVERNORS. IT DOESN'T MAKE US A GOOD GOVERNING BODY. AND I WOULD JUST UNDERSCORE THAT WE WOULD LEARN BEST FROM THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE CITY LONGER THAN US TO GIVE US THE. THE MOST FINE TUNED AND RELEVANT. EXPOSURE TO SOME OF THESE TOPICS FROM THEIR EYES AND HOW IT IMPACTS THEIR DAY TO DAY. SO I LOVE THE COUNCIL CHECKLIST, AND I WOULD JUST OFFER THAT THIS SUPPLEMENTS THE REQUIRED TRAINING AT THE STATE. THIS SHOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION, CORRECT? YEAH, IT SHOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS, I THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU PRIOR TO THE MEETING, MAYBE ONE DAY. 
          YES. FOR NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. AN OPTION. OPTION FOR RETURNING MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT? WELL, CAN WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK WITH WHAT A COST WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR IT FOR ONE DAY? THAT INCLUDES MEALS, TRAINING AND LOCATION. 
          ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IT HERE AT CITY HALL? CAN WE TAKE A DEEPER DIVE? SO I DID OFFER A COST ESTIMATE AND SOME RANGES OF WHAT THIS WOULD BE, AND I WOULD PREFER TO DIRECT IT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. GIVEN THAT THE CITY CLERK'S ROLE IS TO REALLY HELP FACILITATE THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. AND THAT'S REALLY THE INTENTION OF THIS TRAINING. SO ON SLIDE. EIGHT, MAYBE I GIVE SOME I, I GIVE A RANGE OF WHAT THESE COST WOULD BE. AND JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW I CALCULATED THEM, I TOOK THE AGGREGATE BUDGET FOR EACH OF OUR DIRECT REPORTS AND. IDEA 
          [05:35:01]
ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT THIS ACTIVITY COULD REQUIRE, BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE TO I THINK I'M DONE. I THINK IT WOULD BE TO THE DIRECT REPORTS TO TELL US IF THAT RANGE MATCHES THEIR EXPECTATIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY WOULD NEED TO INVEST IN THIS ACTIVITY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN MY LAST AND FINAL THOUGHT PIECE IS WE DO HAVE MONEY IN OUR OWN BUDGETS AS LINE ITEMS FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AS WELL. BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO PAY FOR THIS. 
          OR ARE YOU STATING THAT THIS SHOULD JUST BE PROVIDED FREE? I'M ASKING THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS THAT EXIST IN OUR COUNCIL AND COMMITTEES BUDGET, AND THE FUND NUMBER IS 101 10531.1127. AND THAT BUDGET LINE ITEM HAS FUNDS IN COUNCIL COMMITTEE THAT I BELIEVE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COVER THIS WITH OUR CURRENTLY PASSED BUDGET. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MADAM MAYOR, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION WITH REGARD TO WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO DRAFT SOME RESOLUTION TO MAKE THIS A STANDARDIZED PRACTICE. I DON'T THINK YOU GOT A SECOND ON IT. 
          SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. OH, MY SECOND. 
          [IV.33. Discussion and Possible Action: Golden Years Senior Fair; Twenty Pearls Foundation 501  Organization, Dr. Martin Rogers, and Parks & Recreation Department]
ALL RIGHT. ITEM IS FOR ME AND I'M GOING TO MAKE IT BRIEF. THE BACKGROUND IS THE 20 PEARLS FOUNDATION INCORPORATED IS A 500 1C3 ORGANIZATION ESTABLISHED IN 2003 BY THE MEMBERS OF THE THAI EPSILON OMEGA CHAPTER OF ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY. FOUNDER'S DAY IS TOMORROW FOR THE DELTAS AND THEN THE ACRES. ALRIGHT, BUT IN EAST POINT, GEORGIA, UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CHAPTER'S FOURTH PRESIDENT, BEVERLY BURKS, I WOULD LIKE FOR OUR CITY TO PARTNER WITH THIS ORGANIZATION FOR A GOLDEN YEARS SENIOR FAIR. I HAVE BEEN IN TALKS IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM AND ALSO SOME CITY CITY STAFF, JUST TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BRING A MAMMOTH GRAM BUS. I HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WHO WILL BE SOME OF THE PRESENTERS. I CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL, BUT THEY DO A SENIOR FAIR EVERY YEAR AND THEY WOULD LIKE PARTNERSHIP IN EASTPOINTE, AND THEIR ONLY REQUEST IS TO USE A PARKS AND REC GYMNASIUM. ON MARCH 21ST, 2026 FROM 11 TO 2 P.M. AND THEY NEED ABOUT 40 CHAIRS AND 40 TABLES. ANY QUESTIONS? SHOULD WE MOVE TO CONSENT? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          DO WE HAVE THE 40 CHAIRS IN THE 40 TABLES? YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. ANY. OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR. I DON'T THINK SO. BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE. WELL I DON'T KNOW. NO BECAUSE THIS IS LATE. YOU GO YOURS TOO. OKAY. WE'VE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OURS BECAUSE IT'S LATE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I'LL HOLD OUT TO. I'LL HOLD OUT. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS? I DID, BUT I'LL WAIT. IT'S TIME TO GO HOME. OKAY? OKAY. LORD HAVE MERCY. SO. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.