[Council Onboarding & Orientation on March 28, 2026]
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          EVERYONE, AND WELCOME. WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE TODAY TO KICK OFF THIS COUNCIL ONBOARDING AND ORIENTATION SESSION. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I ECHO THAT WELCOME. THIS IS AN EXCITING MOMENT AND WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START THIS JOURNEY WITH YOU. 
          IT REALLY IS. WHETHER YOU'RE A NEWLY ELECTED OR RETURNING TO SERVE TODAY IS ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU FEEL INFORMED, SUPPORTED, AND PREPARED FOR THE WORK AHEAD. AND THAT WORK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. EACH OF YOU HAVE STEPPED INTO A ROLE OF PUBLIC TRUST, AND YOUR LEADERSHIP WILL HELP SHAPE THE DIRECTION OF OUR CITY AND MEANINGFUL WAYS. YES, ABSOLUTELY. FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE PERSPECTIVE, OUR ROLE IS TO SUPPORT YOU IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, MAKING SURE MEETINGS RUN SMOOTHLY, RECORDS ARE MAINTAINED, AND THAT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCESS REMAIN AT THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYTHING WE DO. AND FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE, OUR TEAM IS HERE TO IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES AND VISION. YOU ESTABLISH THAT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN COUNCIL AND STAFF IS KEY. IT'S HOW WE TURN IDEAS INTO REALITY ACTION AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING FOR THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE VALUE MOST IS OPEN COMMUNICATION. TODAY IS NOT JUST ABOUT PRESENTATIONS. IT'S ABOUT CREATING A SPACE FOR QUESTIONS, DIALOG, AND CONNECTION. THAT'S RIGHT. WE WANT TO DO THIS IN AN INTERACTIVE AND ENGAGING WAY. YOU'LL HEAR FROM DEPARTMENT LEADERS WHO ARE HERE TO SUPPORT YOUR WORK AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THAT. 
          AND WE ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT EACH OF YOU BRINGS SOMETHING UNIQUE TO THIS BODY. 
          DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, PERSPECTIVES, AND IDEAS. THAT DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH. IT HELPS ENSURE THAT DECISIONS ARE THOUGHTFUL, INCLUSIVE, AND REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CARE ABOUT. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL SHARE THE SAME GOALS SERVING OUR RESIDENTS WITH INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND CARE. EXACTLY. AND WHILE TODAY IS AN IMPORTANT STARTING POINT, OUR SUPPORT DOESN'T END HERE. IT'S JUST THE START. BOTH OF OUR OFFICES ARE HERE AND OUR ONGOING RESOURCES FOR YOU. YES. SO PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT, ASK QUESTIONS, AND STAY ENGAGED. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER AND BUILDING A STRONG COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP. AGAIN, WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU AND WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE. LET'S GET STARTED. DONE AND DONE. JUST ONE SECOND. I WANT YOU TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE ME. RIGHT. LIKE. YOU HEARD THE WORD. SHARE AND COLLABORATE AND YOU DID THAT AMONGST OURSELVES, RIGHT? YOU GUYS GAVE US SOME TASKS. AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL. EVEN. BAPTIZED. SO EVERYBODY, PLEASE STAND UP. PLEASE. I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT. I WAS TOLD MR. JONES TO WEAR A WHITE SHIRT. COME ON. I HAD TO CHANGE. COMPANIES. AND I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOUR. ONE OF THESE THINGS WAS NOT LONG. YEAH, BUT WE WE WE COLLABORATED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR OUTFITS. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE HOW MUCH WORK. IS. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. I HAVE ONE MORE YESTERDAY. OH. NO NO NO NO. NO THANK YOU. BUT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE ENJOYING THE FRUITS OF OUR LABOR. MISS CATHERINE SAID YES. TO ALLOW US TO SHOWCASE. EASTPOINTE AT LESS. AND I THINK THAT IS A PHENOMENAL IDEA. AND IT JUST GIVES EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR LOCAL. YES. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS A FAVOR. YES WE HAVE. DARYL. OKAY. OKAY. 
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THANKS. OH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO START THE WEEK OF YOUR PROGRAM. 
          WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TYLER INTRODUCE YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, AND HE'S GOING TO TAKE UP ABOUT AN HOUR, MAYBE AN HOUR AND A HALF, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE BLESSED WITH SOME WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE OF GOVERNANCE, STABILITY AND ALL OF THAT. SO THANK YOU ATTORNEY. SO THIS MORNING, I AM SO PLEASED TO. SHARE. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SITTING THROUGH MY. THIS. 
          ASSOCIATIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED FOR THAT HAPPENS. YOU WILL FIND IT AND HE WILL BE. MRS. ROBINSON HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF INSTITUTE SINCE 2006. HE CURRENTLY SERVES AS A PUBLIC SERVICE ASSOCIATE PROVIDING MANAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT INSTRUCTION TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. THAT'S IMPORTANT ISSUES AS WELL AS CUSTOMIZED TRAINING AND FACILITATION. HIS PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE INCLUDES SERVING AS DIRECTOR OF THE CITY'S RESEARCH OFFICE, WHERE HE PROVIDED RESEARCH AND INFORMATION TO CITY OFFICIALS AND ADDRESS INQUIRIES WITH DECISIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS. HE IS CURRENTLY A MEMBER OF THE UNIVERSITY COUNCIL OF THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA. MRS. ROSSI HOLDS AN MBA FROM UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA, A BA IN SOCIOLOGY, ALSO FROM UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA. I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING FOLKS. OKAY, COUPLE COUPLE THINGS. IT MAY BE MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A HALF, SO I HOPE Y'ALL CAN THROW ME OUT FIRST THING. THANKS. SECOND THING IS I NEED BREAKFAST, AND I KIND OF WISH I. WISH I NEEDED SOME. OKAY, SO HE'S. NO, I DIDN'T, I DID NOT, I DID NOT PUT SLIDES IN THERE. I'M GOING TO. YEAH. SO YEAH, YEAH, HERE'S, HERE'S HERE'S HOW I SET IT UP. 
          I THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF IN HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT'S IN THE CODE THAT'S IN Y'ALL'S ORDINANCE, YOUR CHARTER. SO I DIDN'T WANT TO BULK IT DOWN WITH THAT. BUT YOU'VE GOT THOSE CHARTER THINGS. AND THEN I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I CAN DO AFTER THIS. I'LL DO A SCALED DOWN VERSION OF ANY OF THE SLIDES THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE. 
          OKAY. DOES THAT WORK? THEN I'LL SEND IT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES. AT 11 DECEMBER 25TH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. SO MY LITTLE FEELINGS WON'T BE HURT WHEN YOU STEP OUT. ALRIGHT, SO I GOT THAT. AND I'LL ALSO SEND THEM TO IT. MY PLEASURE. OKAY, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          ALRIGHT, SO LET'S SAY WHO'S IN THE ROOM, RIGHT? WHO'S IN THE ROOM? BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THINK ABOUT IT. VERY SIMPLE QUESTION. RIGHT? BUT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. WHO'S IN THE ROOM WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING ANYTHING? YOU KNOW WHAT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO. SO WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE PEOPLE WHO ARE SEATED, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, WHAT AND HOW YOU CONTRIBUTE TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND WHAT AND HOW DO YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITIZENS OF EASTPOINTE? OKAY, YOU CAN START HERE. OKAY, SO WHERE? YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND STUFF LIKE THAT? CONTRIBUTE TO CITIZENS ALSO. SO I NOW HAVE ALL OF OUR ALSO FOR. SO. I WAS. 
          VERY. ALSO JUST. WITH MY NUMBER BECAUSE I'M THE ONE WHO ANSWERS, I THINK SO IS THAT. IS A STAPLE OF THIS CITY FOR OUR SONS TO TRY TO ANSWER OUR SYSTEMS AND INTEGRATE IT INTO. THEIR. 
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SOLUTION IS JUST SUGGESTIONS. JUST ASK LEGAL COMPLIANCE, WHETHER IT'S STATE LAWS OR FEDERAL LAWS. IT IS OUR OWN LAWS. AND ENSURING THAT THE ADVICE GIVEN CAN MINIMIZE FOR THE CITY. ENSURES WHICH OF THE FUNDS AS WE ADDRESS THE LEGAL ISSUES. YOU KNOW, IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE TELLING THEM THE TRUTH. CITIZENS. DID YOU DID YOU DID YOU DO CITIZENS IN ASK CITIZENS IN TOUGH DECISIONS. OH, SO SORRY CITIZENS, I THINK. THE STEWARD OF THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS EXAMPLE BENEFIT FROM THE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES. GOOD MORNING. SEAN ATKINS. WHAT AND HOW DID YOU CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COUNCIL? I SERVED AS A PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT FOR THE CITY. SO A COUNCIL MEMBER AND. CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITIZENS OF EASTPOINTE. 
          I WOULD SAY BEING A VERY ACTIVE LISTENER TO THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS ARE. AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE POLICY, PROCEDURE OR SERVICE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS AND TO REFLECT OUR CITY ATTORNEY. STAY OUT OF RESOURCES. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS KEISHA CHATMAN. I AM THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. I CONTRIBUTE BY BEING THE CHIEF SPOKESPERSON, PRESIDING OVER MEETINGS AND BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR POLICY THAT THE COUNCIL IS WORTHY FOR OUR EFFORTS. AND THEN HOW DO I CONTRIBUTE TO THE TO THE CITIZENS OF THESE POINTS? I AM A SERVANT, PUBLIC SERVANT, AND THAT'S HOW I CONTRIBUTE TO PUBLIC SERVANT AND TEAM PLAYER, LISTENER. AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE THINGS THAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED TO HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I AM JACK, ONE OF THE AT LARGE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO I SEE MY ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY CONTRIBUTE TO OUR BOARD IS TO BRING INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY TO BEAR ON THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. I ALSO REALLY PROCESS ORIENTED PERSON, AND SO I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE KIND OF LEGISLATIVE BLOCKERS ARE SO THAT WE CAN REMOVE THEM AND ADDRESS THEM AT THE POLICY. AND I THINK WHAT I CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY, THE CITIZENS OF EASTPOINTE, IS BY NATURE. I'M AN EDUCATOR. AND SO I LIKE TO SHARE INFORMATION. AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE LIKE A GOOD GRASP ON HOW WE WORK SO THEY CAN BE THE BEST OUT OF US. YES. I AM WITH THE COUNCIL FOR BUDGET AND AS. COMMUNICATING THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT AND. WHAT'S. THESE ARE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. REDMOND JONES. CITY MANAGER I CONTRIBUTE TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS TO PROVIDE THE BRINGING REALITY TO YOUR VISION. 
          PROVIDING THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS INSIGHTS TO OUR CITIZENS. SO PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED FOR SERVICES AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS TRANSPARENT, OPEN AND REUSABLE. REUSABLE TO THE CITIZENS. AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND MY ROLE IS FIRST OF ALL. 
          OPERATIONS THAT. AS WELL AS INFORMATION THAT. JUST FACILITATING. ALL PBS RECOMMENDATIONS IS PROPERLY. AND BASICALLY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? OKAY, Y'ALL, I. AND MY 
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MOM, SO I GOT. THIS ALL RIGHT. BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I SEE MY QUESTION BECAUSE THIS APPLIES TO TEAM, RIGHT? EACH PERSON ON THE TEAM, EACH PERSON ON THE TEAM. AND WE HAVE A DEEPER I KNOW THIS ORIENTATION, RIGHT? AND SAY ALL YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT IT FROM 50,000FT. 
          YOU GOTTA FEEL FAMILY. AND THIS PERSON ON THE TEAM AND HER, EACH PERSON CONTRIBUTING TEAM, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS JUST GOING THROUGH A LUNCHEON. WHICH I HAVE TO DO, I WANT TO DO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AND NOT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT'S IN THERE, BUT CONNECTING THE DOTS ARE LIKE REALLY THINKING ABOUT WHO ARE MY COLLEAGUES, HOW DO I WORK WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND HOW DO I BEST DO THAT? OKAY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, REALLY, IS IT? THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE GOT A LOT OF OTHER STUFF THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO MY ROLE HERE IS TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION FOCUSED. 
          YUP. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TIME FOR YOU ALL TO TALK. AND I LIKE THAT. SO LET'S TALKING. I DO SOMETIMES I THINK THE BETTER I WILL MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S HEARD, OKAY, KEEP A WRITTEN RECORD OF CONSENSUS AGREEMENTS. NO, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY, OH MAN, NO. I MEAN THAT THIS IS MORE THE ORIENTATION I'M DOING. SO I HAVE A LOT TO WRITE. I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          IT MIGHT BE A SHORT REPORT, BUT MANY TIMES I HAVE TO GO TO THE BEACH WHERE THEY HAVE GOALS AND PLANS AND ALL THIS TYPE OF STUFF, RIGHT. BUT I'LL WRITE UP A BRIEF OUTLINE OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT THAT TYPE OF THING. ALRIGHT. 
          HELP THE GROUP WORK TOWARD CONSENSUS IF NECESSARY. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN. AND OUR REFEREE IF NEEDED. I HAVE TRADITIONALLY WORN LIKE STRIPE STUFF TO RETREATS, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF SYMBOLIZE THE LITTLE REFEREE THING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE NECESSARY TODAY. SO I DIDN'T WEAR IT. I HERE'S WHAT WE ARE, HERE'S OUR LEADERSHIP COMMITMENTS. AND THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS LIKE GROUND RULES LET'S FOCUS ON AND TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY, LET'S FOCUS ON TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. YEAH. WE MAY HAVE SOME CONFUSING THINGS. 
          SOME THINGS MAY COME UP, BUT JUST WHAT IT SAYS IS FOCUS ON AND TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE. 
          SPEAK THE TRUTH AS WE KNOW IT, RIGHT? ALL YOU NEED. IS THE ANSWER HERE. EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT. A LOT OF OTHERS IN THE GROUP TO TALK IT DOWN THERE. 
          TRUST EACH OTHER ENOUGH TO SPEAK AND RESPECT EACH OTHER. ENOUGH TO LISTEN. OKAY. RESPECT EACH OTHER'S DIFFERENCES AND PERSPECTIVES. THIS IS IMPORTANT. THAT'S HOW IT TIES INTO ALL AROUND WHAT PERSPECTIVE? I TALKED TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ARE YOUR PERSPECTIVES IN THE ROOM? WHAT DO DIFFERENT PEOPLE SEE THEMSELVES CONSIDERING? RIGHT. IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME. 
          IT'S JUST PERSPECTIVES. ALRIGHT, THIS NOW WHEN WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, ALRIGHT, SO I HAVE TO BE THERE TOO, BUT I'M NOT JUST ABOUT TODAY. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY NOT TO GET STUCK IN THE MUD AND THEN AGREE WITH OUR LEADERSHIP COMMITMENTS. CAN WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP COMMITMENTS? ALRIGHT, OKAY. YOU READY TO ROCK AND ROLL? SHE SEEMS LIKE SHE'S BY HERSELF. IS THAT IS. CAN WE ALL AGREE ON IT? YES, YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH. 
          WOW. OKAY, WE GOT A LITTLE MORE WORK TO DO. I MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK HOME DURING BREAK. I MIGHT GET THAT STRIPED SHIRT I LEFT IN THE CAR. HEY, I'M GLAD I PUT IT IN THE HATCH. I'M READY MAN. 
          OKAY, SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. NEXT THING IS, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? OKAY, OUR PURPOSE IS WORKING TOGETHER. NOTICE THIS IS WORKING TOGETHER. WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK TOGETHER. I'M INCLUDING MYSELF AS PART OF GROUP TODAY. I HOPE YOU'LL LET ME BE AN HONORARY MEMBER TODAY. 
          ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO EXAMINE REPORTS OF ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENTS. THAT'S KEY TO ALIGN AND TALK ABOUT STRUCTURE. OKAY. GOT THAT ALIGNMENT RIGHT. ALIGNMENT OR NOT. THE. I'LL STAND UP ON TOP OF ALL OF THEM. I HAVE TO BE ALIGNED. I'M GOING TO FALL OFF ORGANIZATION THE SAME WAY. YOU DON'T HAVE ALIGNMENT. YOU SEE ALL KINDS OF CRAZY STUFF GOING ON. THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S OUR NORTH STAR FOR ALIGNMENT? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE ALIGN WITH THAT? THE NEXT QUESTIONS. OKAY, BUT WE'LL GET THERE. REVIEW OUR CHARTER I PUT ON THERE BECAUSE I TOLD YOU I'M HONORING THEM TODAY. REVIEW OUR CHARTER ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. THAT'S GOING TO GET KIND OF HEAVY, BUT KEEP READING DIFFERENT STUFF. 
          BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT IT LAST TIME. AGAIN, I HAVE THIS TENDENCY TO GO OVER MY SLIDES TOO MANY TIMES AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MAJORITY. OKAY, 
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SO WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME TEAM. EASY TO BRING IT ONLINE. OKAY, EXAMINE OUR TEAM DYNAMICS. 
          THAT'S TOWARD THE END. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE TEAM. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ABOUT THE TEAM. WELL YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALIGNMENT. BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS TEAM. HOW IS THIS TEAM FUNCTIONING. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST DISCUSS COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP TOOLS THAT WILL HELP US. RIGHT. AND CONCEPTS THAT WILL HELP US AND WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. LEADERSHIP, NOT JUST TAKE A SUPER DEEP DIVE ON THAT, BUT IT'S ANOTHER FRAMEWORK WE'RE GOING TO USE. SO IF I DID IT THIS WAY, THIS WOULD BE KIND OF AFTER WE DO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF ANALYZE WHERE WE ARE AS A TEAM. OKAY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH THESE TWO THAT CAN IMPROVE THE TEAM, BECAUSE EVERY TEAM CAN BE IMPROVED. EVEN GREAT TEAMS CAN BE IMPROVED, RIGHT? IT BURNS ME UP. IT BURNS AS A GEORGIA DOLL. IT BURNS ME UP. THAT UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA WAS SO GOOD WHEN NICK SABAN WAS THERE. I ACTUALLY MISS NICK SABAN BECAUSE HE MADE THE GAME BETTER. BUT NO. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT SO Y'ALL READY TO ROCK AND ROLL. ALRIGHT HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. THIS ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT WITH SOMEONE. PLEASE READ THAT FOR US. ORGANIZATIONAL. EITHER TEAM, THE TEAM ALIGNMENT IS THE IDEA THAT THE ENTIRE TEAM. FOR THE MOST ENTRY LEVEL EMPLOYEES TO THE CEO SHARE A COMMON VISION. OKAY, WE CAN SUBSTITUTE STUFF A PUBLIC ORGANIZATION, I THINK. 
          RIGHT. BUT THE POINT IS ALIGNMENT IS KEY. ALIGNMENT IS KEY. AND I THINK WHAT I'LL DO, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY SLIDES THAT. IT'S NOT JUST THAT. IS THAT FAIR? BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GOT INTO THE OH, THIS IS PART OF WHO I AM. I KNOW I'M SAYING I'M WITH YOU. I SAID, I SAID, IT'S 500, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S AWESOME. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO. ALIGNMENT IS KEY. ALRIGHT, CAN I GET SOMEONE TO READ THE NEXT ONE? THE IMPORTANCE OF ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT CAN'T BE OVERSTATED. HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. SO IT CAN'T BE OVERSTATED. THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          IT SAYS IT CAN'T BE OVERSTATED. JUST ALIGNMENT. JUST ALIGNMENT CAN'T BE OVERSTATED. I'M SORRY. 
          YOU CONTINUE. YES. WITHOUT ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE COMPANY CAN BE BECOME MISGUIDED, CHAOTIC AND AIMLESS. ALRIGHT, WHEN YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING IN YOUR ORGANIZATION AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, OTHER COUNCILS OR OTHER COMMISSIONS, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S MISALIGNMENT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE PEOPLE NECESSARILY. SOMETIMES IT'S A CHANGE OF PEOPLE'S IDEAS AND CONCEPTS. AND WE HAVE A MISALIGNMENT AND IT DOES LOOK CHAOTIC WHEN YOU SEE IT. IT LOOKS CHAOTIC. IT'S GOT IT LOOKS LIKE AIMLESS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A LIKE A SHIP WITHOUT A RUDDER. IT'S GOING, BUT WE CAN'T DETERMINE WHERE IT'S GOING. IT'S GOING THESE GIANT CIRCLES AND SOMETIMES IT GOES STRAIGHT, RIGHT? THEY DON'T HAVE THE LITTLE THING. I THINK IT'S CALLED A SEXTANT. WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE STARS ON IT AND NAVIGATE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE NAVIGATION, THEY DON'T HAVE THE NORTH STAR. THEY'RE JUST OUT THERE. AND SO IT LOOKS SPORADIC AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE NO DIFFERENT. THEY LOOK LIKE THAT TOO, IF THERE'S MISALIGNMENT. SO OUR QUESTION BECOMES THIS RIGHT. OUR QUESTION IS WHAT IS ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT. HOW DO WE FIND THAT NORTH STAR, RIGHT? HOW DO WE FIND IT? HOW DO WE FIND IT? WHAT IS OUR WHAT'S OUR NORTH STAR? ALRIGHT, HERE IT IS RIGHT HERE. YOU GOT YOUR VISION STATEMENT. OKAY. THESE THINGS, UNFORTUNATELY, I DO CONFERENCES IN OTHER PLACES. BUT UNFORTUNATELY TO ME, THIS IS MY HUMBLE OPINION THAT VISION AND MISSION STATEMENTS GET LOST IN THE SAUCE. PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THEY'RE NOT FOR THE ORGANIZATION. BUT THEY'RE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT YOU WILL EVER RECEIVE ALIGNED WITH HIM. YOU CAN RECEIVE A LOT OF FUN. YES, YES, AND MISSION STATEMENT. IT'S UNDER SECTION ONE OF YOUR. SO I TELL YOU WHAT, I'VE GOT THIS. I'VE GOT THIS. 
          OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN SLIDES. ALRIGHT. I HOPE EVERYTHING IS IN THERE. ALRIGHT, SO THE VISION STATEMENT IS OUR NORTH STAR IS WHAT WE NEED A VISION STATEMENT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING. WITHOUT THAT. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING. WE'RE SPECULATING. RIGHT. AND THEN THE MISSION STATEMENT WE'VE GOT OUR MISSION STATEMENT ALIGNS RIGHT. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING, 
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HERE'S WHAT WE DO TO GET HERE. HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ON A DAILY BASIS TO GET HERE. HERE IS OUR VALUES. HOW DO WE OPERATE? WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE DO IS INTEGRITY. AND TRANSPARENCY IS HONESTY. IS IT CUSTOMER SERVICE? ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS IS THAT WE ALL DO. EVERYONE IN THE ORGANIZATION DOES. SO WE CAN BE HONEST, RIGHT? OKAY, HERE'S THING. THESE THINGS ARE NICE. THEY'RE NICE, BUT TO SHOW, TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY MAKING PROGRESS, THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING GOOD WORK. IF I ASK, I GO TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE I'LL SAY, HEY, ARE YOU, WHAT TYPE OF JOB ARE Y'ALL DOING? ARE Y'ALL DOING A GOOD JOB? YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE DOING, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. SO HOW DO YOU KNOW? I SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW. LIKE WHEN PEOPLE COMPLIMENT US AND AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T GET HARDLY ANY PHONE CALLS, RIGHT? I SAY YOU THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE REAL TRUTH. 
          THE REAL TRUTH. THESE ARE WORDS, VERY IMPORTANT WORDS. BUT THESE ARE ACTIONS. AND IF YOU ALIGN THOSE WITH WHATEVER IT IS, YOU ALL ACROSS, AND THESE GOALS ALIGN WITH ALL THESE THINGS HERE, AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE. NOW YOU HAVE TO SAY, YES, I THINK IT'S GOING TO. JOHN. YOU'RE GOING TO GO. YOU PROMISED. IT'S CONCRETE. YOU CAN SEE IT. IT NEEDS TO BE FOR WHEN I SAY A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT ME BECAUSE WHEN I ASK THAT YOU MIGHT GET TIRED, I STARTED GOING ON AND I FOUND THESE SLIDES AGAIN. I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, CALLING ALL THE TIME. I THOUGHT MAYBE I STARTED SPEAKING KLINGON FOR HOW PEOPLE LOOK FOR ME. ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? I RECALL A VERY COMMON, SOME VERY SMART, I SAID SEVERAL PEOPLE I TALKED TO ON STAFF. I DIDN'T GET IT. I THINK EVERYBODY GETS IT. BUT DID YOU. 
          QUESTIONS? DO YOU REALLY GET IT? WE GOT. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN STUFF. VERY IMPRESSIVE. RIGHT. 
          BUT DO WE GET IT WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE TO GET IT AS A COLLECTIVE AS OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUAL? THAT BECOMES THE BIG QUESTION. HOW DOES IT. OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO ALRIGHT, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. ALRIGHT, SO OF COURSE, YOU ALL KNOW THIS VISION, MISSION VALUES VISION IS WHAT THE ORGANIZATION STRIVES TO BE. A STATEMENT OF DESIRE FOR FUTURE MISSION, WHAT THE ORGANIZATION DOES TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE VISION. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, VALUES WHAT THE ORGANIZATION STANDS FOR. GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR SERVICE DELIVERY. MY SISTER, WHO IS A FED AND I ARGUE ABOUT THIS STUFF A LOT. I MY THEORY IS YOU CAN'T REALLY GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE AS EFFECTIVE AS THE PEOPLE IN THE ORGANIZATION DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MISSION AND OUR MISSION, SHE SAYS. YEAH, THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT GUESS WHAT? PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND THEIR JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND THEY'RE DOING WELL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE MISSION BY DEFAULT. I HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT BECAUSE THERE'S A STUDY THAT THEY THAT WAS DONE IN, I THINK IT WAS TOYOTA. THEY HAD PEOPLE IN A HERE'S THE DRAMATIC EFFECT, AND I BETTER NOT SAY THAT BECAUSE I FORGOT PEOPLE GOT CAMERAS ON. 
          BOTTOM LINE WAS THIS THE PEOPLE WERE MAKING SEAT BELTS IN THE FACTORY. THEY ASKED THE PEOPLE SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU DO? SAY WE MAKE SEAT BELTS. WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT? MAKE SEAT BELTS, SEAT BELTS. THEY TOOK THE. NOW THEY GET IT. THEY GET WHAT THEY DO. THAT'S WHY DO WE GET IT? BUT WATCH THIS. SO THEY TOOK THEM OUT AND THEY WENT IN THE AUDITORIUM. THEY HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED BY SEQUENCE. THEN THEY ASKED PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT DO YOU SAY? SAVE, SAVE LIVES. THEY GOT IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT AS A GROUP. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR Y'ALL TODAY ON ORIENTATION. OKAY. COME ON. SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT? HERE IT IS. HERE'S Y'ALL'S NORTH STAR WHEN SOMEBODY READS Y'ALL'S NORTH STAR. THANK YOU. SAID MY FRIEND. OKAY. THE CITY OF EAST POINT DESIRES TO BE ONE OF THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER, SAFE AND DIVERSE COMMUNITIES IN GEORGIA, OFFERING SMALL CITY CHARM, CITY AMENITIES. EAST POINT IS AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE, AND CONNECTED TO ENDLESS OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN, LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. EVERYTHING SHOULD BE IN THAT SECTION. THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO LEAVE. PLEASE LEAVE. LET US KNOW. LEAVE. RIGHT. SO FOR. THIS, THOSE THAT I CAN TELL YOU 
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ABOUT. SOMETIMES I KNOW HOW I DESIRE TO BE BECAUSE IT'S ONGOING THINGS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO THINK ABOUT IN YOUR DAILY WORK, OKAY? IN YOUR DAILY WORK, EVERY TIME YOU ALL MEET TOGETHER, WHEN YOU'RE NOT MEETING, THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TRYING TO TAKE THE CITY COLLECTIVELY. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO SOME OF Y'ALL, LOOK AT A LOT OF STUFF BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE WHAT I DO WHEN I COME IN HERE. SO I'M JUST TALKING TO Y'ALL. BUT HERE'S WHERE IT IS, RIGHT? THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING. EVERYTHING YOU DO, THINK ABOUT IT. EVERYTHING YOU DO SHOULD BE HEADED IN THIS DIRECTION, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, NOW QUESTION COMES, WHAT DO YOU DO CURRENTLY? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION? WOULD SOMEONE TAKE OUR MISSION STATEMENT? TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL CITY SERVICES. BUT IT HAS TO FOLLOW. ALRIGHT, SO EVERY DAY YOU ALL STAFF, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE DOING THIS, PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL CITY SERVICES THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT, THAT MEANS YOU'RE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION RIGHT HERE. YOU'RE CREATING THINGS. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. AND IT'S HARD BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE START, YOU KNOW, SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND ALL THAT. I GET IT, BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND WHAT IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ON A DAILY BASIS TO GIVE US THAT? OKAY, EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY, WHEN PEOPLE TEACH YOU OFF, YOU STILL NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS. WHEN YOU GET ON EACH OTHER'S NERVES, YOU STILL NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS. WHEN EVERYTHING'S GREAT, EVERYBODY'S DOING IT AND IT'S GREAT. EVERYBODY'S GETTING ALONG GREAT. GUESS WHAT? IT'S STILL. THAT'S GOING TO START. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING. WE TALKED ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT. SO LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING BRIEFLY. WHEN YOU HAVE ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT, I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT'S POSSIBLE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          IT'S MY MIND READING THAT QUOTE FOR US. ALL. THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT SEEM WHAT MAKES A TEAM WORK A COMPANY, WORK A SOCIETY, WORK A CIVILIZATION WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ORIENTATION ONBOARDING, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT THINGS TO GIVE IT SOME CONTEXT, RIGHT? TO GIVE IT A FRAMEWORK. OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE JUST TALKING IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. SO OUR FRAMEWORK IS ALL THIS STUFF HAS TO FIT INTO ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT. AND IF WE HAVE TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF OUR VISION, WE HAVE TO BE 
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VERY COGNIZANT OF OUR MISSION STATEMENT, OUR VALUES, AND WE HAVE TO CREATE GOALS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, RIGHT? AND WE'VE GOT TO, AS WE THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN WE HAVE OUR RUDDER, WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE ON THE TEAM WHERE THEY SIT AND WHAT THEY DO, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. YES. OKAY. SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS HERE GOES SOME WORDS FROM THE HERE COMES SOME WORDS FROM THE VIDEO. HERE'S THE WORDS. OH, HOW'S IT GOING? HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. LET ME GET OUT OF THIS ONE. BACK HERE. OKAY? HERE ARE THE WORDS FROM THE VIDEO. PAIR. RIGHT? YES. PASSES. CONDITIONS. THE CAR HAS A. K79. SYNCHRONIZE. 
          RIGHT. WITHOUT BEING PAIRED. HOW DOES IT LOOK LIKE? HOW DOES THAT LOOK ON COMCAST BEING PAIRED. OKAY. WHAT? WELL ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TACKLE IS HAVING AN AGENDA THAT ALLOWS US TO BE PREPARED AND BE PREPARED MEANS THAT WE HAVE A BASIC GRASP OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WILL BE ASKED TO VOTE ON. IT MEANS THAT WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND ENOUGH ABOUT IT THAT WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. AND THAT MAYBE PREPARATION ALSO INVOLVES LIKE BEING WILLING TO HEAR OUR COLLEAGUES, IF THEY HAVE AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS FROM OUR AND SO ON. SO WHAT ABOUT SYNCHRONIZING? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU GOT THAT? ALRIGHT. 
          MAYBE THE SYNCHRONIZATION PART. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. HEY. COME ON. SYNCHRONIZE. COME ON. WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? SYNCHRONIZE. FINE. BUT WHAT SHOULD IT LOOK LIKE? OR BETTER YET, WHAT COULD IT LOOK LIKE? OKAY, I WILL ANSWER THAT. RIGHT. COME ON. I THINK IT IS US FOLLOWING PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S OUR BEST BET TO BE SYNCHRONIZED. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT MY MY SUGGESTION IS THAT IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS THAT'S OUTLINED BY HOW MEETINGS RUN, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE THAT COULD IT WHAT IS THAT THING? CALL IT A DIRECTION. 
          WHAT IS THAT? IF WE IF WE FOLLOW THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, WE WOULD BE GROWING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? AS WELL. OKAY. Y'ALL WANT TO CHANGE SOME WATER? WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR US? EXCUSE ME, I FORGOT TO SAY. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR US? WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE? YES, SIR. GET BACK TO ME. IN MY ESTIMATION, IN THIS CONTEXT, NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME THING, BUT WE ARE AGREEING TO A SET OF STANDARDS AND PROTOCOLS TO GUIDE US AND TO GET US WHERE WE ALSO NEED TO GO AND HOW TO MOVE US FORWARD. I NEVER THINK THAT IT IS ABOUT US ALL AGREED THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT COUNSEL, THAT ONE PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE AN EXECUTIVE DECISION ABOUT THINGS. BUT SO UNIFIED TO ME IS AGREEING THAT THIS THESE ARE PROTOCOLS. THIS IS OUR PATH. THIS IS HOW WE GET HERE, VARIOUS OPINIONS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT WE FOLLOW THIS. ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? ENGAGED? YES. I WANT TO ENGAGE IN MY CITY AND ENGAGE. SO I JUST SAY SHOWING UP, PARTICIPATING, BEING PREPARED. 
          I THINK OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK ABOUT BEING ENGAGED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MAJORITY RULE. 
          MINORITY RESPECTED. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. GOT IT OFF. OKAY. YOU GOT IT ALL. AND THIS IS WHERE IT ALL FALLS. RIGHT? HEY, LISTEN, WE NEED TO TALK, RIGHT? WE'RE BEING HONEST ENOUGH TO PUT IT DOWN THERE, RIGHT? AND RESPECTFULLY. LISTEN, I LIKE IT SO. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME MONEY. LIKE, COME ON, Y'ALL. OKAY. UPDATE. IT. SAID IT WAS. IT IS THE COMMON GOAL. OKAY, SO WITH. COMMITTED TO THE VISION AND THE MISSION, I LIKE IT. I LIVE IN 
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THE BUSINESS. AND SO. ACCOUNTABLE TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S PARAMOUNT ALL. RIGHT, GOOD STUFF. OKAY, LET'S KEEP ROCKING ROLLING. LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO KICK IN NOW. ALRIGHT. WHAT ABOUT FOCUS? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? FOCUS TO ME. ALSO, THIS GOES BACK TO THE VISION MISSION. IF WE STAY FOCUSED ON THE VISION AND THE MISSION, AND I THINK WE ALL NEED MORE INFORMATION. SO STAY FOCUSED ON THAT. ALL THE OTHER STUFF CAN REALLY BE NOISE AND DISTRACTIONS. STAY FOCUSED ON THE VISION AND MISSION. OKAY. 
          AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, JUST LIKE IT, I LIKE IT, I LIKE IT, I LIKE IT. WE'RE STARTING TO COOK NOW. HEY, WE'RE STARTING TO COOK NOW IMAGINE THAT WE'RE FINALLY STARTING TO COOK. AND MR. ERIC, I'M GOING TO LET YOU TAKE DEDICATED. IS A LITTLE BIT ALONG FOCUS, BUT I THINK. 
          THEY'RE COMMITTED TO SERVICE, TO SERVICE YOURSELF. AND SO SO IS THAT. OKAY? TO THE TEAM? HEY, I LIKE IT LIKE SHOWING UP TODAY ON SATURDAY, RIGHT? CORRECT. I SO I AGREED WITH ME, BUT LIKE I SAID TO SHAWN'S POINT, IT GOES BACK TO THE LIKE MISSION. LIKE I'M REALLY DEDICATED TO MAKING SURE THE PEOPLE THAT I LIVE NEAR BENEFIT FROM THESE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE DONE. AGAIN, IT'S BEYOND THOSE OF US IN THE ROOM AND THE 38,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPECTING US TO BE PREPARED, SYNCHRONIZED, UNIFIED, ETC. SO, OKAY. OKAY, SO MY. SO WHAT WAS THE TALK ABOUT YOU ALL TO YOU ALL YOU ALL ARE THE SAME. YES. BUT I THINK ABOUT THINGS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. HOW DO YOU DO THE SAME? RIGHT? WHAT SHOULD WE DO? YOU GUYS? DO THAT TOO, I GUESS REALLY INSPIRED ME. BUT YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA MOVE ON, ISN'T IT? IN EVERYTHING YOU DO, YOU GOTTA KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING IT. AND THEIR THEIR PURPOSE SHOULD BE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. MISSION WE SHOULD BE DOING ON A DAILY BASIS EVERY IDENTIFICATION. YES, YES, THAT ANSWER A LITTLE. THAT'S FOR SURE. THIS IS AN IMAGE OF EVERYBODY CLEAR WHERE THEY'RE GOING. THEY'RE MOVING ACROSS THAT BODY. YES. RIGHT. YES. BUT WE'VE GOT SOME REAL CHALLENGES THAT COULD SLOW THAT PROCESS DOWN. DRAG IT. YES. STALL IT. YES. WE GOT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT JUMP OFF THE BOAT. OKAY. WE GOT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT ADD OTHER PEOPLE TO THE BOAT. THAT'S GOT TO BE ON THE BOAT. YES. SO I APPRECIATED THE IDEALISTIC VERSION OF THIS. BUT ALSO THERE'S A DESIRE FOR ME TO HEAR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE US TO THIS BEING PRACTICAL. IT'S NOT LOST ON ME THAT WE'RE A BODY OF NINE PEOPLE. AND RIGHT NOW FOUR OF US ARE IN THE ROOM. OKAY, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION THIS WAY. I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A MOMENT BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING A FRAMEWORK. AND WHEN WE BUILD THE FRAMEWORK, IT'S A PROCESS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE CODE. AND THEN WHEN WE. LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT TASK, OKAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP, YES, YES. OKAY. OKAY, WELL, WE GOT THAT SO EVERYBODY CAN MOVE THE SAME DIRECTION, SAME SPEED. 
          IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT ALL THE. OKAY. HEY, HOW YOU DOING? YEAH, GOOD. ALRIGHT, SO Y'ALL HANG IN THERE WITH ME BECAUSE THIS IS NECESSARY. THIS IS AN ORIENTATION, ALRIGHT? AND AN ORIENTATION. MANY TIMES YOU SET YOUR FRAME. WELL, I DO ANYWAY. I SET MY FRAMEWORKS UP SO WE CAN TIE EVERYTHING BACK TO THE FRAMEWORK. AND IF YOU DON'T, WHAT I FOUND OUT, IF PEOPLE DON'T PROPERLY SET THEIR FRAMEWORKS UP AND JUMP TO A CERTAIN PIECE, PEOPLE, IT CAN BE CONFUSING TO PEOPLE. SO I'M SETTING FRAMEWORKS UP. SO EVERYTHING WE TALK TO, WE'RE GOING TO HANG IT BACK ON THE FRAMEWORK. OH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS CONNECTS TO THAT. OH, THIS CONNECTS THAT. OH, THIS IS WHY THIS HAPPENED. THIS IS WHY THIS HAPPENED. ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. I APPRECIATE IT. SO THE QUESTION BECOMES THIS. NOW THE QUESTION BECOMES I, WHO 
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WHERE DO YOU SIT ON THE FLOOR? EVERYBODY'S ON THE GO. OUR POSITIONS ON THE BOAT. WE GOT TO KNOW THAT TOO, RIGHT? WE GOT TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE SAID, HEY, I CAN SPEAK TO THIS. I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. I GOT YOU WITH THIS. I LIKE IT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO KNOW HOW IS THE BOAT SET UP? HOW IS IT STRUCTURED? HOW IS THE BOAT DESIGNED? WHO SAID THIS PERSON SITS BACK HERE? BY THE WAY, THIS PERSON SAID ROW, ROW, ROW. WHO SAYS THAT? WHO SAYS THIS PERSON SITS HERE? WHO SAYS THIS PERSON SITS HERE? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? FOLKS, WELL, FOR YOU ALL, YOU ALL THIS TELLS YOU RIGHT HERE. OKAY, YOU SAID THIS IS A COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A FORM OF GOVERNMENT. YOU ALL HAVE, AM I NOT? CORRECT? OKAY, SO LOOK, VOTERS. OH, VOTERS ARE ON TOP. 
          THE VOTERS. YOU REMEMBER WHAT SHE JUST SAID? SHE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S BIGGER THAN THIS. IT'S BEYOND ME. Y'ALL GOING TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE I'M REPRESENTING GET THESE THINGS RIGHT. LOGAN SAID AT THE TOP OF THIS THING. RIGHT. OKAY. THEN WE GOT MARRIED. MARIN CITY COUNCIL. NOW LOOK, FILTER DOWN A DIRECT LINE. WE TALKED ABOUT WINDING DOWN THE CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS. IT BREAKS OFF IN THESE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, RIGHT? SO NOW CITY MANAGER HAS TO WORRY ABOUT DEPARTMENT, HEAD DEPARTMENT, HEAD DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. THAT'S YOUR STRUCTURE. THAT'S THE STRUCTURE. THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO OPERATE. 
          THAT'S THE PART WHEN YOU'RE ON THE BOAT, IF THEY TELL YOU YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING ROW, ROW, STOP AND START SAYING ROW, ROW. AND THE PERSON SAYING ROW, ROW AIN'T SUPPOSED TO JUMP IN AND GRAB AN OAR AND START DOING IT. THAT'S THE STRUCTURE. SO WITHOUT THE FRAMEWORK, NOTHING WORKS. SO WE CAN'T. IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THE FRAMEWORK, NOTHING WORKS OR IT'S GOING TO BE CHOPPY, IT'S GOING TO BE CHAOTIC, IT'S GOING TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY. AND THAT'S WHY THESE FRAMEWORKS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO LAY DOWN. SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THESE FRAMEWORKS AND UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE FRAMEWORKS ARE, ALL THE WAY FROM VISION STATEMENT TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. QUESTIONS, FOLKS, EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT ME KIND OF STRANGE. OTHER QUESTIONS. OTHER QUESTIONS. KLINGON. ARE YOU STILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? CAN YOU UNDERSTAND? OKAY, I'M GOING TO CHECK WITH YOU, MAKE SURE I'M YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE ENGLISH TO ME WHEN I'M TALKING. KLINGON. 
          ALRIGHT, NOW LET'S GO FURTHER DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE. OKAY? WE SET UP OUR FRAMEWORK. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AND WHAT I. WHAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING IS THAT PEOPLE KNOW THIS BECAUSE EVERYONE'S INTELLIGENT. BUT SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T QUITE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE ABANDON THAT OR MAYBE IT DOESN'T QUITE TRANSLATE. WE'LL GET THERE. BUT NOW WE HAVE TO OFFICIALLY GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT THIS OFFICIALLY. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. THIS IS ORIENTATION AFTER ALL. SO WE ONBOARDED. SO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IN HERE. AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. I ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION WHEN I TALKED TO YOU. REMEMBER I SAID, WHAT ARE THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF I ASKED YOU ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU ALL ANSWERED. I ASKED YOU ALL. CITY MANAGER SAID, RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. SO WHO AM I TALKING ABOUT NOW? THIS IS THE PART WHERE I'M LOOKING. THIS IS WHY I GAVE YOU THE HANDOUTS, RIGHT? THE CHARTER HANDOUT THING. OKAY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO COVER THE ENTIRE CHARTER. THAT WASN'T MY CHARGE, BUT I PULLED SOME THINGS OUT THAT I THOUGHT IMPORTANT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER IT. YEAH. LINE BY LINE. CONNOR. A LOT OF IT. WE'RE GOING TO GO LINE BY LINE. SOME STUFF. I'M GOING TO KIND OF PARAPHRASE. I'LL SEE HOW Y'ALL DOING ON THIS. BUT THIS IS THE PART THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT SAYS. LET ME STOP FOR A SECOND. 
          HOLD ON. LET ME LET ME BE DRAMATIC. STOP FOR A SECOND. THIS IS WHAT IS. THIS IS WHY IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. IF THE CHARTER SAYS THIS AND ANYBODY IS DOING THAT, RIGHT, HERE'S WHAT IT SAYS. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. RIGHT. BUT THIS IS WHAT THE CDC SAYS IT DOES. SO IF YOU'RE ACTING OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING ELSE. YOU'RE NOT SEEING THESE ONE. ANY TIME YOU WALK OUTSIDE YOUR CHARTER, YOU'RE NOT MISSING THIS POINT. IT'S SOME TYPE OF AMAZING NEWS. THIS IS WHAT THIS IS THE OPERATIONAL NAME OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE USING. AND THAT'S WHY I STOP. SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS, THIS IS NOT NOTHING. NO. LET'S SEE WHAT IT SAYS BECAUSE WE GOT TO LEAVE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. RIGHT. AFTER THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO LET'S SAY I SAID, HEY, MONDAY 
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MORNING COMES, I GOT A 24 SEVEN. SO I SAID. ALRIGHT, I'M ALL SET ALL DAY LONG. I HOPE ANYBODY WHO BREAKS DOWN ON THE HOP SAME TIME CHANGE MATTERS, RIGHT? GREAT JOB MAN. HE'S HE'S GOOD ON MY PART, BUT I'M DOING THAT. THAT'S NOT THE PROVINCE DOES. SO I'M OPERATING ON THE SIDE OF DOING SOMETHING ELSE. AND THIS IS WHY THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS CONTINUOUSLY THIS EVENING ONBOARDING ORIENTATION. AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS TOGETHER. SEE IF PEOPLE AGREE WITH IT, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE NEED MORE ACCESS. IS THIS OPERATING. AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT IF YOU'RE WORKING OUTSIDE YES, YOU'RE BY THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. YOU'RE, YOU'RE SOME OTHER PLACE BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HE SAID. HE'S GOING. YES. THIS IS ALWAYS GOING TO SAVE THIS ONE. IF YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING ELSE, YOU'RE NOT. OKAY. YES YOU CAN. ABSOLUTELY. 
          HOW I WAS GOING TO GET THERE. YEAH, YEAH. NO. THAT'S COOL. YOU READ MY MIND. SEE YOU READ MY MIND WHEN I CALLED YOU YESTERDAY TOO. YOU, YOU YOU MIND READER. SO THE THING TO HER POINT, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THIS MANUAL NO LONGER SERVES YOU, OR IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO CHANGE, YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT. OKAY, THAT'S HOW THIS WORKS. BUT UNTIL YOU ALL CHANGE IT, YOU HAVE TO OPERATE WITHIN THIS GUIDELINE. THAT'S WHY I'M GOING POINT BY POINT FROM VISION TO MISSION TO THE BOAT TO GET TO REITERATE, BECAUSE Y'ALL SOME VERY SMART PEOPLE. SO I KNOW YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT I WANT TO REITERATE THIS. SO AS AN ORIENTATION, WE ALL CAN TRY TO GET ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC. ALRIGHT, SO LET'S GET AFTER IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT TOO. ALRIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT ARTICLE ONE, GOVERNANCE, CHAPTER ONE, COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL MAYOR, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT CHAPTER THREE UNDER ARTICLE TWO, WHICH IS CITY MANAGER. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT CHAPTER FOUR UNDER ARTICLE TWO, WHICH IS RELATIONSHIP AMONG MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER. AND THEN I'M GOING TO JUMP DOWN TO CHAPTER FIVE UNDER ARTICLE TWO, WHICH IS ETHICS. AND THEN I'M GOING TO JUMP ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ARTICLE FOUR, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATION. OKAY, NOW THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF IN HERE, BUT YOU CAN FOLLOW ME IN HERE. IT'S ALL IN HERE. SO I PRAY. GOOD. OKAY. BUT I DID PUT UP ON THE SLIDES. I'LL READ A LOT OF IT. SOME OF IT I WON'T, BUT YOU GET THE PICTURE. I THINK THIS IS NECESSARY. I THINK THIS IS NECESSARY BECAUSE Y'ALL CALLED ME HERE FOR AN ORIENTATION, AND WE GOTTA SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. WHAT'S IN HERE? OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT GOVERNANCE. ALRIGHT. WHAT DOES GOVERNANCE MEAN, FOLKS? I HAVE A QUESTION. WHY DIDN'T YOU START WITH THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENS? OKAY, I START WITH FOOTBALL. SO WHAT IS THE. AND TO YOUR POINT, TO YOUR POINT, I THOUGHT EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO DO. THE SECOND ONE IS MORE HOW YOU ALL WOULD THINK. SO. YES MA'AM. YES. MA'AM. CAN I JUST SAY YES, THAT OUR POWER IS DERIVED FROM THE CITIZENS AND ENUMERATED VERY CLEARLY, AND I THINK MAYBE 11 RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE. AND IMPORTANTLY, IN THOSE MIDDLE RIGHTS, IT'S IN NAMES. A FEW THINGS WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE FISCALLY SOUND CITY VERSUS WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN EFFICACY THOSE BILL OF RIGHTS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY DEFINES OUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT ABOUT OUR VISION, MISSION AND ALL THAT, THE BILL OF RIGHTS SAYS HOW WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY. OH, IT'S A GOOD DOCUMENT. I SAW IT, IT'S GOOD. 
          I READ OVER IT. IT'S GOOD. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M LOOKING KIND OF IN THE BOAT RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M LOOKING IN THE BOAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE BOAT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. RIGHT. ALRIGHT, HERE IT IS. ALL LEGISLATIVE POWERS AND AUTHORITY OF THE CITY SHALL BE VESTED IN THE CITY COUNCIL. LEGISLATIVE POWER AND AUTHORITY. Y'ALL ARE THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. WHAT HAPPENS? THAT'S YOUR FUNCTION. LEGISLATIVE TO THIS POINT. IF YOU JUST WANT TO CHANGE CHARGES TO LEGISLATE. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ALRIGHT, SO IT'S COMPOSED OF A MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THEM ALL 
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AND ALL RESPECT TO THESE SUCCESSOR TO AND CONTINUATION OF OUR GUIDE, I THINK THAT'S UNDER THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BE ELECTED IN THE MANNER PROVIDED. THANK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL RECEIVE COMPENSATION AND EXPENSES. OKAY. I THINK WE GET THE IDEA OF THAT. OKAY. IF ANYONE HAS A QUESTION. ALRIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MAYOR. 
          OKAY. SO ON THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR SHALL SERVE AS THE CHIEF SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CITY AND CHIEF ADVOCATE, A FORMALLY APPROVED AND ADOPTED CITY POLICY. OKAY. SPOKESPERSON, CHIEF SPOKESPERSON, CHIEF ADVOCATE. RIGHT. IN ADDITION, THE MAN SHALL PRESIDE AT ALL MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND SHALL BE RECOGNIZED AS THE HEAD OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT FOR ALL CEREMONIAL PURPOSES AND BY THE GOVERNOR, THE GOVERNOR FOR PURPOSES OF MILITARY LAW, THE MAYOR SHALL SIGN ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS. ONLY ON THEIR PASSAGE SHALL SIGN DEEDS, BONDS, CONTRACTS, AND OTHER INSTRUMENTS PROVIDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND SHALL APPOINT CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES, APPOINT CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES AND SUCH OTHER COMMITTEES SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND AS PROVIDED BY LAW, THE MAN SHALL SERVE THE CITY AND THE PART TIME CAPACITY, UNLESS OTHERWISE EXPRESSLY PROVIDED BY LAW OR THIS CHAPTER. THE MAN SHALL HAVE NO VOTE ON ANY QUESTION BEFORE THE COUNCIL, EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF A TIE. WE HAVE WRITTEN TO YOU AND. WOW, YOU'RE ON POINT. YEAH. ON POINT. Y'ALL ARE ON POINT. ON POINT. OKAY, SO NOW THAT'S MAYOR. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUMP IN. 
          OKAY, SO THIS STUFF IS IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, WHAT OUR ROLE IS ON THE VOTE AND WHAT OUR FUNCTIONS ARE ON BOTH AND WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ON THE BOOKS. ALRIGHT, MAN. PROTEIN. OH MAN. OKAY, LET'S BE ON MAN. I FORGOT I MADE A COUPLE CHANGES. I TOLD YOU, ALRIGHT, THE MAN SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO VETO ANY ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL EXCEPT ITS APPOINTMENT, SUSPENSION AND TERMINATION OF OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES, AND ACCEPTING AN IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTION AGAINST THE MAYOR, OR A RESOLUTION OF REMOVAL OF THE MAYOR AND NO ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT OVER SUCH VETO UNLESS SUBSEQUENTLY PASSED BY THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF AT LEAST FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON A YEA AND NAY VOTE DULY RECORDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING, AND SAID MEASURES SHALL NOT AGAIN BE CONSIDERED FOR ACT UPON WITHIN LESS THAN 90 DAYS, WITH THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE PRESENT, EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE OF CONDITION MATERIAL TO THE SUBJECT MATTER OF SUCH MEASURE, AND UNLESS APPROVED. BY SAYING, LET'S APPROVE THE MAYOR'S VETO FILED IN WRITING IN THE CITY WITH THE CITY CLERK BY THE CONCLUSION OF THE THIRD DAY AFTER THE DATE, SUCH ACTION WAS TAKEN, WITH THE REASONS FOR WITHHOLDING THE MAYOR'S ASSESSMENT, WHICH SHALL TAKE EFFECT AS IF SIGNED AND APPROVED BY THE MAN. BUT IF THE MAYOR APPROVES IT, THE MEASURE SHALL GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON SUCH APPROVAL, UNLESS AFFIRMATIVELY ASSERTED BY THE MANAGER HIS SHE SAID HIS HER APPROVAL SHALL BE ASSUMED, AND THEN, IN THE EVENT OF A VETO, SUCH ACTION SHALL STAND DISAPPROVED UNTIL AND UNLESS SUCH MEASURES SHALL AGAIN BE PASSED AS AFORESAID BY AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF AT LEAST FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO. OKAY. QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, FOLKS. 
          THIS TEXT IS. OH, NO, NOT THAT PART WHERE YOU JUST. OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, THE CHARTER IS SAYING THAT THE MAYOR HAS CONFIRMED THAT COUNCIL CAN OVERRULE THAT. YES, YES. WHAT IS THAT? LESS THAN 90 DAYS UNANIMOUS CONSENT. WHAT'S THAT? LEGAL EAGLE. YOU WANT TO JUMP IN ON THAT ONE? SO THAT'S SIX. ALRIGHT. SUCH DETAILS SUBSEQUENTLY PASSED BY AT LEAST FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE. IN THE MINUTES OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SAID MEMBERS SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED OR ACTING UPON WITHIN LESS THAN 90 DAYS, WITHIN 90 UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF ALL PRESENT. SO. IF I REMEMBER. RIGHT AND IT PASSES OR DOESN'T PASS, YOU CAN'T BRING THAT BACK AGAIN. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO IT'S NO LONGER THE MAJORITY OF TO BRING IT BACK TO BRING IT BACK. 
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RIGHT. BUT TO AUTHORIZE. OKAY, SO I HAVE OKAY. BUT TO. MAYOR VETOES, WE SAY NO MATTER MAYOR, WE DON'T WANT HER VETOED IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE RECONSIDERED WITHIN 90 DAYS, THE ENTIRE EIGHT OF US HAVE TO VOTE TO RECONSIDER THAT BEFORE 90 DAYS. SO ARE THOSE CORRECT? SHE NEEDS THEM, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT. NO ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT. SO. OVER. SUCH DETAIL UNLESS SUBSEQUENTLY PASSED BY. AFFIRMATIVE. RELEASED BY COUNCIL. SO TO BRING IT BACK, THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING HERE ON HOW TO BRING BACK NOTHING HERE, WHICH LIKE COUNCIL RULES, REMEMBER, IT TALKS ABOUT WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO MANY WHEN IT COMES BACK ON THE AGENDA IT TAKES FIVE TO OVERRIDE. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S THE PART WE SAID NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT. SO WE WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. ALRIGHT. AND THEN. FOR. EVERYTHING. ALRIGHT. AND THEN IT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AGAIN OR ACTED UPON WITHIN LESS THAN NINE DAYS. SO AFTER OUR DAYS HAVE PASSED, UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS REQUIRED OF ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE PRESENT. 
          TO DETERMINE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. SO LET'S DO THAT. 
          SO. BY DAY'S END, ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE PRESENT, EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF A CHANGE OF CONDITION OF THE SUBJECT MATTER. SO REMEMBER, UNLESS IT'S APPROVED BY THE U.S. UTILITY, RIGHT APPROVAL. IS. THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF. AFTER 90 DAYS. MISS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. MISS WILLIAMS. YOU WANT ME TO LOOP BACK TO YOU ON THAT? YEAH. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH, FAIR ENOUGH. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR. OKAY, WE'LL LOOK BACK AROUND ON IT. NO PROBLEM. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT THE VETO FROM THIS SECTION IS ABOUT. THE PROCESS IS. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. AND TO THE EXTENT IT CONFLICTS WITH CITY COUNCIL RULES, THIS WILL DIFFICULT TIMES. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. SO LET'S GO TO THE MACRO TEAM. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL, IN JANUARY OF EACH YEAR, ELECT ONE OF ITS MEMBERS AS MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THAT YEAR, SUCH MEMBERS HAVE DISCHARGED THE DUTIES AND EXERCISE THE POWERS AND AUTHORITY OF THE MAYOR. IN THE ABSENCE. DISABILITY OR DISQUALIFICATION OF THE MAYOR AND DURING A VACANCY IN THE OFFICE OF MAYOR, PROVIDED THAT HIS OR HER RIGHTS AND DUTIES AS A COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL REMAIN UNIMPAIRED, EXCEPT THAT HE OR SHE SHALL NOT RECEIVE THE SALARY AND EXPENSE OF A COUNCIL MEMBER WHILE RECEIVING THE SALARY AND EXPENSE OF MAIL. NOR SHALL APPOINTMENT AUTHORITY VESTED WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM, UNLESS THERE'S A VACANCY IN THE OFFICE OF MAYOR. OKAY, SO WHEN PRESENT. SO IF HE WERE TO PRESIDE OVER ME, HE STILL GETS TO VOTE ON THE MATTER. AND THE COUNCIL SANITARY AUTHORITY. IN THE EVENT THAT THE MAYOR CANNOT BE. WE GET Y'ALL. OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO TO. ALL RIGHT. QUALIFICATIONS OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. NO PERSON SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO HOLD OFFICE OF MAYOR UNLESS SUCH PERSON IS AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE. AT THE TIME OF BEING SWORN IN OFFICE, IS A REGISTERED VOTER OF THE CITY, AND HAS CONTINUOUSLY RESIDED AND MAINTAINED HIS OR HER DOMICILE IN THE CITY FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR, IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING HIS OR HER ELECTION AS MAYOR OF THE CITY. OKAY, NOW LET'S GO TO THE OTHER FOLKS. NO ONE SHALL HOLD OFFICE OF COUNCILMEMBER UNLESS SUCH PERSON IS AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE. HIS REGISTERED VOTER IS A RESIDENT IN ONE OF THE FOUR SPECIFIED WARDS AT LARGE. DISTRICT HAS CONTINUOUSLY RESIDED IN AND 
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MAINTAINED HIS OR HER DOMICILE IN THE CITY FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR. HAS BEEN A RESIDENT WITHIN THE WARD TO WHICH SUCH COUNCIL MEMBER WAS ELECTED FOR A PERIOD OF AT LEAST SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO QUALIFYING. OH THERE'S MORE. EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MUST RESIDE IN THE WARD OF WHICH THE MEMBER WAS ELECTED. DURING THE MEMBER'S ENTIRE TERM OF OFFICE, EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN ELECTED TO A FIRST TERM AS MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE CITY SHALL ATTEND THE MUNICIPAL TRAINING COURSE REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 45 OF TITLE 36 OF THE OFFICIAL CODE OF GEORGIA, ANNOTATED OR SUCH OTHER APPLICABLE LAWS AS ARE OR MAY HEREINAFTER BE ENACTED. SUCH NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL SHALL ATTEND THE FIRST OR SECOND AVAILABLE OFFERED COURSE AFTER BEING SWORN INTO OFFICE. FAILURE TO ATTEND ONE OF SUCH MUNICIPAL TRAINING COURSES SHALL BE GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL FROM OFFICE. AND I KNOW THE GEORGIA MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION. 
          I TEACH FOR THEM QUITE A BIT AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND CARL VINCENT. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE CLASSES THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE THE MANDATORY CLASS, TAKE TRAINING. 
          OKAY, LET'S KEEP ROCKING AND ROLLING. LET'S TALK TURNS. TERMS ARE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL SERVE FOR TERMS OF FOUR YEARS AND UNTIL THEIR RESPECTIVE SUCCESSORS ARE ELECTED AND SWORN IN OFFICE, THE TERMS OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL COMMENCE ON THE FIRST MONDAY OF JANUARY FOLLOWING THEIR ELECTION. PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT IN THE CASE THAT A MAN OR COUNCIL MEMBER IS ELECTED TO THE TO THE BALANCE OF THE UNEXPIRED TERM, SUCH NEWLY ELECTED OFFICERS SHALL QUALIFY AND COMMIT, SERVING THE BALANCE OF THE UNEXPIRED TERM IMMEDIATELY UPON THE DECLARATION. DECLARATION OF THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTERING OF THE OATH OF OFFICE. THE TERM PERSON ON THE 31ST OF DECEMBER, IS THAT ANY OTHER BUSINESS. BUT WE DON'T TAKE OFFICE BEFORE THE FIRST MONDAY OF JANUARY, 5TH OF JANUARY. WHO MAKES THE DECISION BETWEEN DECEMBER 30TH 1ST OF JANUARY THAT SHOULD THERE BE AN EMERGENCY. SO WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK THERE TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS. WELL. USUALLY WHEN THIS HAPPENS, IF THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, I WILL REFER TO THAT EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. I ALSO WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME CASES WHERE YOU SERVE UNTIL YOUR SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED, AND THAT WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTING BEYOND FIRST. SO THAT IS. OR THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION I THINK THEY CAN TOTALLY, COMPLETELY. 31ST AND GO TO YOUR EMERGENCY ORDINANCE FOR ANY ACTIVITY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN. MEETINGS BEFORE MONDAY. THE FIRST MONDAY THAT YOU WOULD TAKE OFFICE, WHICH ALSO MEANS THAT YOU CAN OFTEN YOU CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THERE'S A CITY CEREMONY, RIGHT? TAKE THAT OATH OF OFFICE ON THAT PERSON. WELL, SPEAKING TO BE ACTIVE IN THAT WORLD. OKAY. THE NEXT THING IS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS PICTURE? BECAUSE THIS CAME UP WHEN WE WERE KIND OF COMING ON, DOES ANYTHING IN THIS SAY THAT THE CITY CLERK, FOR EXAMPLE, CAN'T HELP BEGIN FACILITATING OUR MOVE INTO THE OFFICE? NOTHING HERE. WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER SECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT IT DOES NOT SAY THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN. THE REASON WHY I ASKED THIS QUESTION IS INTENTIONAL, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE COMING ON BOARD, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WAS THAT THE THE PRIOR, OUR PREDECESSORS WOULDN'T REALLY ALLOW THE CITY CLERK TO ENGAGE WITH US. SO IT MADE IT CHALLENGING TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT MONDAY. WELL, MAYBE THAT ONE, THAT ONE. BUT SO IT MADE IT HARD TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT MONDAY. AND SO LIKE AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD WANT TO GET THE AGENDA BEFORE THE FIRST MONDAY IN JANUARY. I WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DO THESE STEPS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY POLICY THAT STOPS US FROM BEING ABLE TO HELP US, FACILITATE US MOVING INTO OUR OFFICE. YES. ON THE FIRST AND 
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THE SECOND, BECAUSE THE OTHER CUSTOMER IS STILL IN OFFICE. CORRECT. WE'RE TRYING TO. SO YEAH, I HEARD YOU ALL STILL. BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO SAY THAT I WAS BASICALLY. 
          JUST. SAYING ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN MY EMAIL. LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I HAVE A LOT. YES. JUST I'M ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE ONE OF THE FIRST DAYS OF THE FRAMEWORK WAS BEING PREPARED. AND I DON'T WANT TO, I'M ABOUT TO MOUNT UP THIS FIRST WEEK. MOVE ON. MY POINT IS, AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I'M SUPPOSED TO BE PREPARED ON THE FIRST MONDAY OF JANUARY TO PARTICIPATE FULLY IN THE MEETING, I CAN'T THEN BE PREPARED IF THERE ISN'T A TRANSITION PERIOD. AND SO I'M ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PRECLUDES THE CITY CLERK FROM ENGAGING WITH THOSE WHO ARE SWORN IN, DULY ELECTED, TO BE PREPARED FOR OUR FIRST MEETING ON MONDAY. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT IT'S NOT ACCUSATORY. I'M LOOKING FOR THE LANGUAGE. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY, I WAS JUST NOW. OKAY, LET'S DO IT. 
          I KNOW THIS. IS A SOLUTION SO THAT IT DOESN'T RELY ON. THE CITY CLERK, BUT I THINK IF WE TAKE THE. NOTE MADISON PARK AND PERHAPS THE BODY BY CONSENSUS DECIDES THAT ONCE THE VOTES ARE CERTIFIED, THAT THE CITY CLERK THEN WOULD ENGAGE WITH ALL OF THE NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH WHATEVER UPDATES. IT'S NOT THE ORIENTATION, BUT THE CITY CLERK WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, START ENGAGING IN COMMUNICATING FOR THAT VERY REASON OF PREPARATION ON THE FIRST MONDAY OF JANUARY SO THAT NO ONE IS STILL ALIVE ON HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. OR THEY'RE SEEKING INFORMATION AND THE INFORMATION IS NOT PROVIDED SO THAT IF WE COULD JUST AS A BODY THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THAT SHOULD BE AFTER THE CERTIFICATION OF THE BOTH OF SOLUTION. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE OF THE US PRESIDENCY, THE PRESIDENT ELECT IS. AFFORDED THE ABILITY TO GET DAILY BRIEFINGS AND ALL THINGS NEED TO ACTUALLY GET. TRANSITION. SO THAT PROCESS OF AFTER AND I THINK THERE IS SOME EARLY SWEARING IN OF THE COUNCIL. SO. SO THAT OCCURS EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY NOT BE AN IMMEDIATE. THEY ACTUALLY BECOME THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, MEETING. 
          SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME INFORMATION SHARING ON THAT. YOU KNOW THOSE. MEETING AGENDAS, MEETING ON WHATEVER TOPICS AT THE MOMENT. I THINK YOU PRIOR TO THE MEETING HAD. 
          CONVERSATIONS IN THE LAST TRANSITION. NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE UPDATED AUTOMATICALLY TRANSITION BETWEEN. SO THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS TO BE IN THIS STATE LAW. THAT MAY CONFLICT TO WHAT I SAID. SO I'LL READ THAT WHEN YOU'RE DONE. OKAY? NO, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT SAYS THAT THIS IS OCD 20 12-5 421.1. ALL ELIGIBLE OFFICERS ELECTED AT GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION SHALL BE APPOINTED FOR FOUR YEARS UNLESS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY LOCAL LAW, AND WE AGREED UNLESS OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR BY THE MUNICIPAL CHARTER. 
          MUNICIPAL OFFICERS SHALL BE SWORN IN AT THEIR FIRST ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING OF THE NEW YEAR, AND OURS IS THE FIRST DAY AND WILL HOLD OFFICE UNTIL THEIR SUCCESSORS ARE DULY ELECTED AND FOLLOWED BY, INTAKE SAID. OVERALL. SO UNLESS OUR CHARTER DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT STATE LAW AND GOVERNANCE AND I DIDN'T SEE WHERE MY CHARTER. IT'S A DIFFERENT. AND SO THAT WHOLE THING ABOUT PRIVATE MEMBERS IN THE COMPLETELY ACCESSIBLE FOR REFERRALS SEEMS TO CONFLICT WITH THE STATE LAW PROVISION THAT SAYS YOU'LL HOLD OFFICE INTO YOUR SUCCESSORS ARE ELECTED AND QUALIFIED AND TAKE OVER. SO WE TOOK OUR UPDATED SINCE OUR ELECTED AND SWORN INTO OFFICE. SOMETHING LIKE DECEMBER 17TH. I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE 50%. SO WHEN YOU 
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GOT THE SECRETARY FIRST, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS ASK FOR A PROVISION, MAYBE THAT WE DISCUSS IT SOME OTHER TIME THAT SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS THE CITY CLERK TO BEGIN THE TRANSITION OF OFFICE. SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFFICE BEFORE THE FIRST MONDAY IN JANUARY, BUT I WANT TO BE PREPARED TO PARTICIPATE IN OFFICE THE FIRST MONDAY OF JANUARY. AND SO MAYBE SOME OTHER CITY HAS LANGUAGE THAT WOULD EXPRESSLY GRANT THE CITY CLERK TO BEGIN ONBOARDING THE NEW COUNCIL, IS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. YEAH. AND. THAT'S. REDMOND JUST MADE MENTION OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TAG. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THAT. SIMILAR EVEN LIKE UNDERSTANDING AND GAINING ACCESS TO LIKE FILES WITHOUT PRE AGENDAS. LIKE THERE WASN'T A WAY FOR ME TO BE PREPARED OTHER THAN TO YOUR POINT, WHAT WAS AVAILABLE. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID. THERE IS A CHANGE AND IT IS ON THEIR WEBSITE. IT GIVES SOME ACTIONS THAT YOU CAN TAKE DURING LIKE A, LIKE AN ONBOARDING. IT'S NOT OFFICIAL CITY BUSINESS, BUT IT'S GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU SET UP YOUR INSURANCE AND ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO, WE CAN GET TO THEM. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE JUST ADOPT WHAT'S ALREADY WRITTEN. AND YES, IT WOULD START FROM THE TIME THAT WE'RE ELECTED TO GET SOME OF THOSE THINGS DONE. AND I THINK THE, THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS WITH GETTING US A LOT OF INFORMATION AND GIVING US THAT INFORMATION. WE DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO RECEIVE IT. WE DIDN'T HAVE COMPUTERS, YOU KNOW, SO. RIGHT. SO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, BUT I DO THINK THAT FROM THE TIME WE'RE IN POSSIBLY STARTING, THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF ONBOARDING THAT TAKES PLACE BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT. OKAY, SO CAN I, CAN I, OH, I'LL TAKE YOUR COMMENT THEN. LET ME JUMP IN IF YOU DON'T MIND. WE HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK FOR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECOMMENDED, SINCE AT THAT POINT WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING SEEMS TO BE AN OVERALL SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR OUR TRAINING, I SAID THAT MAYBE THEY COULD DO WHAT YOU THINK. ALL THE THINGS. I'LL BE GOOD. AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I'LL BE GOOD. KIND OF. THANK YOU. ONBOARDING AT A HIGHER LEVEL UNTIL WE GET ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED AT THIS LEVEL, IN OUR LEVEL AS PRINCIPALITY TO START WITH. 
          THAT WAY THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN STILL HAVE. WHATEVER THEY NEED, BUT. ACCESS. 
          OKAY, LET ME JUMP IN RIGHT HERE. LET'S DISMOUNT THIS HORSE FOR NOW. I THINK THE SUGGESTION IS THAT WE ALL LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT TO PEOPLE WHO WIN THEIR ELECTIONS ONCE THEIR VOTES ARE CERTIFIED. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO LOOK AT. AND LOOK, THAT'S THE SUGGESTION. LOOK AT WHAT THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT CAN BE BETWEEN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND WHOMEVER, RIGHT. WHO, WHO HAS THEIR THINGS ARE CERTIFIED. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S GOOD THAT CAME OUT OF THIS. ALL RIGHT. SO GET BACK ON AND START WRITING AGAIN. SANCTIONS. THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER WHO ENGAGES IN WILLFUL, WILLFUL MATERIAL VIOLATIONS OF PROVISIONS OF THIS CHARTER SHALL BE SUBJECT TO SANCTIONS AS FOLLOWS. THE BOARD OF ETHICS, ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO SECTION 2-508 OF THIS CHARTER, SHALL, IN ADDITION TO HIS AUTHORITY, TO HEAR COMPLAINTS ARISING UNDER CHAPTER FIVE OF ARTICLE TWO OF THIS CHARTER WILL BE EMPOWERED TO HEAR COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE MAYOR OR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER ALLEGING THAT SUCH ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS COMMITTED WILLFUL MATERIAL VIOLATIONS IS CHARGED IF, AFTER AN INVESTIGATION AND HEARING, THE BOARD OF ETHICS FINDS THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS COMMITTED A WILLFUL MATERIAL VIOLATION OF THIS CHARTER, THE BOARD OF ETHICS SHALL BE EMPOWERED TO RECOMMEND THE APPROPRIATE SANCTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH SANCTIONS MAY INCLUDE CENSURE, SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR REMOVED FROM OFFICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2-107 OF THIS CHAPTER. OKAY. LET'S TALK REMOVAL. ALL RIGHT. THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS OR OTHER APPOINTED OFFICIALS PROVIDED FOR THIS CHARTER SHALL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE FOR ANY ONE OR MORE OF THE CAUSES PROVIDED IN TITLE FIVE OF THE OCGA OR SUCH OTHER APPLICABLE LAWS AS ARE OR MAY, ARE, OR MAY HEREAFTER BE 
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ENACTED. BE. REMOVAL OF AN OFFICER PURSUANT TO SECTION A OF THIS SUBSECTION SHALL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING METHODS. FOLLOWING A HEARING AT WHICH AN IMPARTIAL PANEL SHALL RENDER A DECISION IN THE EVENT AN ELECTED OFFICER IS SOUGHT TO BE REMOVED BY THE ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, SUCH OFFICERS SHALL BE ENTITLED TO A WRITTEN NOTICE SPECIFYING THE GROUND OR GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL, AND TO THE PUBLIC TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH SHALL BE HELD NO LESS THAN TEN DAYS AFTER THE SERVICE OF SUCH WRITTEN NOTICE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL PROVIDE BY ORDINANCE FOR THE MAYOR IN SUCH HEARINGS SHALL BE HELD. ANY ELECTED OFFICER SOUGHT TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE IS HEREIN PROVIDED. SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT OF APPEAL FROM THE DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE SUPERIOR COURT OF FULTON COUNTY. 
          SUCH APPEAL SHALL BE GOVERNED BY THE SAME RULES AS GOVERNMENT APPEALS TO THE SUPERIOR COURT FROM THE PROBATE COURT OR OR BY AN ORDER OF THE SUPERIOR COURT OF FULTON COUNTY, FOLLOWING A HEARING ON A COMPLAINT SEEKING SUCH REMOVAL BROUGHT BY ANY RESIDENT OF THE CITY. ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT TAKES US TO RECALL. ALL RIGHT. RECALL THE PROVISIONS AND PROCEDURES PERTAINING TO THE RECALL OF LOCAL OFFICIALS WHO HOLD ELECTED OFFICE SET FORTH IN CHAPTER FOUR OF TITLE 21 OF THE OCGA OR SUCH OTHER APPLICABLE LAWS AS ARE OR MAY HEREINAFTER BE ENACTED, SHALL CONSTITUTE THE RECALL PROVISIONS OF THE CITY AND IS SET OUT IN THAT IN TITLE 21 O.C.G.A. AND LET'S TALK OATH OF OFFICE. I LIKE THIS ONE. I'M GOING TO USE THIS A COUPLE TIMES ACTUALLY. SO NOW I'M GOING TO STEAL MY OWN THUNDER FOR A SECOND. I THINK THIS IS HUGE. OKAY. THIS IS HUGE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A BIG Y, RIGHT? WE ASKED, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HERE, WHY Y'ALL HERE TODAY? WHY YOU GAVE IT YOUR SATURDAY, ALL THIS TYPE OF STUFF. OKAY, HERE IT IS. HERE'S WHY YOU ALL ARE BOUND TO CHARTER VISION MISSION, ALL THIS STUFF. THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. ALRIGHT. THE PERSON'S ELECTED AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS SUCH, ELECTION SHALL. ON OR BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF JANUARY FOLLOWING THE ELECTIONS, QUALIFY BY TAKING AND SUBSCRIBING BEFORE SOME OFFICER AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO ADMINISTER OATHS THE FOLLOWING OATH I, WHATEVER YOUR NAME MAY BE, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL HONESTLY AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF EAST POINT COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR BY ADOPTING SUCH MEASURES AS, IN MY JUDGMENT, SHALL BE BEST CALCULATED TO PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE INHABITANTS OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, AND THE COMMON INTEREST THEREOF. I FURTHER SWEAR THAT I AM NOT THE HOLDER OF ANY UNACCOUNTED FOR PUBLIC MONEY DUE TO THIS STATE, OR ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OR AUTHORITY, THEREFORE, THAT I AM NOT THE HOLDER OF ANY OFFICE OF TRUST UNDER THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES, OR ANY OTHER STATE OR ANY FOREIGN STATE, WHICH I AM BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF GEORGIA, PROHIBIT THAT I AM OTHERWISE QUALIFIED TO HOLD SAID OFFICE. ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF GEORGIA, THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THIS STATE, AND OBSERVE THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER AND CODE OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT. OBSERVE THE. THE CHARTER AND CODE OF ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. I FURTHER SWEAR THAT I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT FOR THE TIME REQUIRED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE STATE, AND THE CHARTER AND CODE OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT. SO HELP ME GOD, OR I, OR. SO I AFFIRM. THEY SHALL FILE SUCH OATH WITH THE CITY CLERK, WHO SHALL SPREAD THE SAME. UPON THE MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF EAST POINT. NEXT. FOLLOWING SUCH FILING, UNLESS SUCH OATH IS FILED DURING THE REGULAR MEETING. IN REGULAR MEETING, THEN IN SESSION. OKAY, I'M GOING TO REVISIT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT HAS A UNDERLINING MEANING OF A LOT OF THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND ON THAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE STOOD THERE AND PUT THEIR HAND ON THE BOOK. YEAH. OKAY. AND JUST AS IS THIS. I GUESS, IS 
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THIS INCLUDE AURORA COUNCIL MEMBERS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT SAYS COUNCIL MEMBERS ENGAGED. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS CONNECTED. OFFICIALS THAT HAVE CREATED A LOOK ALIKE. 
          WOULD THERE BE A NEED TO HAVE A HEARING OF COMPLAINTS FOR A QUORUM COUNCIL? I'M A I'M A I'M GOING TO SUBMIT THAT TO THE TO THE LEGAL EAGLE ABOUT FORMAL FORMER PEOPLE. I HAVE A VERY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. I THINK MOST THINGS HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE. THIS PART THAT GOES TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE ETHICS BOARD AND ALL THAT STUFF IS WHILE THEY'RE IN. WHEN PEOPLE GET OUT. YES, PEOPLE GET CHARGED FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT BECOMES A CITY ISSUE. 
          I THINK IT BECOMES MORE OF A COURT ISSUE. BUT I'LL LET I'LL LET THE LEGAL EAGLE HANDLE, SIR. 
          SO I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE INITIATION OF THE ISSUE. HAPPENED WHILE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE ETHICS BOARD. STILL CAN PURSUE THEIR. 
          EVIDENCE POINTS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TWO SIDES OF THAT. AND THEN THE ALLEGED FILING AND I SAID ALLEGED NEAR TERM. HOWEVER, WHEN IT COMES TO SANCTIONS, THE EFFICACY OF THOSE SANCTIONS. 
          IT'S NOT CLEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GIVING UP WARNING. SANCTIONS. SO THAT DOESN'T HIT. 
          THIS GROUP. THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER OR. THOSE PERSONS THAT YOUR HEARTS AND MINDS. AT THIS TIME. SO, NO, THE CITY COUNCIL, UPON RECEIVING THE RECOMMENDATION TO GIVE AUTHORIZATION THAT SAID, EVERYTHING IS NOT. RIGHT. SO SHOULD YOU RECEIVE SOMETHING FROM THE ETHICS BOARD THAT SAYS A, WE RECOMMEND YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY. GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          OUR NEXT PART IS GOING TO BE THE CITY MANAGER, BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH. WE'RE HERE ON CHAPTER THREE. BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO BEFORE THAT, CAN WE TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK FOLKS? I KNOW Y'ALL PROBABLY NEED IT. LET'S MEET BACK HERE AT 1045. CELL PHONE TIME, IF YOU DON'T MIND. I'LL WALK LIKE THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND. DOES IT MAKE SENSE? 
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AND. ALSO, I HAVE A QUESTION. SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE THAT I ONCE, ONCE. IN THE OFFICE. YEAH. 
          OKAY. AND SO THAT. YOU CARE ABOUT. SO HERE ARE SOME. OF PATIENTS. THIS IS THE THIRD ONE. 
          YOUR OFFICE. VISITS. IS POSITIVE FOR ISSUES. AND YOU'LL FOLLOW UP WITH IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. IT'S I'M PLANNING TO VISIT. AT ANY MOMENT, BUT IT COULD UNSTRUCTURED TIME ISSUE. 
          RIGHT. AND THAT SHOULD BE INFLUENCED. BUT THAT'S. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THAT IS NOT. SO. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO. CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THAT. IS THAT IS THAT. NO, NO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE. DIFFICULT IF THEY BECAME THE SAME. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. OKAY. 
          CITY ATTORNEY, I DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE AT LEAST FLASH FOR THE PRICE. AND BECAUSE THE BILL RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS ARE ACTUALLY. I UNDERSTAND WHY HE'S NOT. HERE. OKAY, MAYBE I'LL CATCH UP ON THIS, BUT WE SAY OUR ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY IS. 
          AND IT'S. RIGHT. UP TO RESOURCES. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, RIGHT? YES. IT IS. POWERS THAT WE HAVE. SO MAYBE WHAT HAPPENED IS I HAD A DUPLICATE OF SOMETHING BECAUSE I HAD THE BILL OF RIGHTS. SO I HAVE TWO. EVERYBODY ELSE IS. DID EVERYBODY ELSE GET SOMETHING DIFFERENT? THESE POWERS ARE USUALLY. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. I. HAVE A SECTION ONE. I DON'T HAVE POWERS IS WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT. OH, NO. BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE POWERS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BACK UP OUR. IT IS ESSENTIAL TO US UNDERSTANDING OUR POWER VISIT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I PROVIDED HER. WE MAY NOT HAVE THE POWER, THOUGH. THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE. THE FIRST ARTICLE ON THE. LET ME SEE. I. THAT'S IT. OH, THIS IS TERRIBLE. YES, THIS IS OUR SERVER. I'M TRYING TO HAVE THIS THIS, YOU. YEAH. THAT'S I STARTED. RIGHT AFTER I GRADUATED. THOSE POWERS YOU. 
          CAN SEND YOU A LETTER. RIGHT. A LITTLE SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S AWESOME, I 
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HOPE IT AFC AND NFC I DIDN'T KNOW. I WAS IN. OKAY, OKAY. AND AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE MY SPACE TO LEAVE, PLEASE PUT UP SECTION THREE. THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY NEED WITH IT. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S THE POWERS OF THE, OF THE CITY COUNCIL LIKE WHAT THEY ARE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST PART THAT'S IN THE FIRST. PLACE. OKAY, YOU CAN YOU GET ON THE INTERNET? Y'ALL CAN DO THAT. I'M ON IT NOW. THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE ONE AGAIN? SECTION 1-103I SAW THAT. OH IS IT 2-103. COME ON. IT WAS PROBABLY ONE. IT'S PROBABLY SHOPPING ONE IT'S CHAPTER ONE. IT'S CHAPTER ONE. IT'S OKAY, I GOT YOU, I GOT YOU. THANK YOU. 
          YES. I THINK I REMEMBER. SHE SENT ME A SUNDAY AND I. WELL, I ALSO GOT A CONTACT TO RICHARD DAVENPORT IN DC AND THEN. AND THEN I GOT ANOTHER 100. OH. AND. OH NO, BUT I HAD SIMILAR. HERS WAS BY FAR WORSE THAN WHAT I HAD. I HAD SIMILAR SYMPTOMS AND WE BOTH WORK EIGHT HOURS IN A CAR TOGETHER IN A SMALL SPACE. SO NO, NO, NO, NO, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. SO WHEN WE GOT HOME, SHE TEXTED ME LIKE SHE SAID, I GOT COVID. BUT I THINK YOU FIGURED THAT OUT BEFORE WE EVEN LEFT IT. OH, I FIGURED, I KNOW, I KNOW, SHE HAD THE BODY ACHES AND HEADACHES, ALL THE CHEETOS LIKE IT WAS. IT WAS LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPELL. ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. IT'S. THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT. IF I DIDN'T HAVE IT, BECAUSE I GOT COVID, IT WASN'T UNTIL I GOT LIKE FIVE TIMES THAT I. NOT ONLY DID THE VACCINE WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP AND THEN, BUT TO BE HONEST, I JUST HOPE IT IS AS BAD AS THREE DAYS OF JUST NOT FEELING TOO GOOD. BUT I CAN'T COPE WITH THIS PROBLEM. SO. 
          I'M SAYING SO. FOR THREE DAYS THERE'S STILL SOME STUFF OUT THERE THAT. I THINK. I MEAN, THE LAST TIME I HAD, I HAD COVID, BUT I THINK RIGHT AFTER I GOT BACK, I HAD TWICE. YEAH, I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO THE FLU. YOU GET THE FLU VACCINES NOT TO AVOID GETTING THE FLU. YOU GET IT TO NOT GET THE WORST SYMPTOMS OF IT AND TO PROTECT TO BOOST YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IF YOU IF I DID HAVE COVID, IT WAS, IT WASN'T AS BAD AS I HAD RECENTLY GOTTEN A BOOSTER OR WHATEVER. SO THE CDC. I KNOW IT'S NOT AS MUCH REPORTED CASES. YES. 
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OKAY, FOLKS, IT'S AT 1045. CAN WE JUMP BACK ON THE TRAIN? OKAY, SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CRANK IT BACK UP. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE OTHER SECTION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANOTHER SECTION WE'VE GONE OVER SO FAR? OKAY, LET'S JUMP ON. ALRIGHT, CITY MANAGER. CITY MANAGER. ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT CITY MANAGER FOR THE QUALIFICATIONS CONVERSATION. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL SELECT AND APPOINT A CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY BY AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF A MAJORITY OF ITS MEMBERS, AND FIX SUCH MANAGER'S COMPENSATION. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON SUCH TERMS AND CONDITIONS, AS, IN THEIR OPINION, ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS SHALL NOT HAVE A TERM OF LONGER THAN YEARS IN THE ABSENCE OF AN EMPLOYMENT ACT SPECIFYING OTHERWISE SAID APPOINTMENT SHALL BE, FOR A TERM, AN INDEFINITE TERM. THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE APPOINTED SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF SUCH CITY MANAGER'S EXECUTIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE QUALIFICATIONS. THE CITY MANAGER NEED NOT BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, BUT MUST RESIDE IN THE STATE OF. IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. DURING THE TIME OF THE APPOINTMENT ON REQUEST, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A COMPENSATION PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES AND SHALL HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS OFFERED TO ALL OTHER EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT, MR. CITY MANAGER. YEAH, I SEE, I SEE. I DIDN'T THINK YOU KNEW, BUT I INDEFINITE OR OR OR CITY MANAGER THAT OR THAT INDEFINITE PART. ALRIGHT, SO SO SERIOUSLY. SO IF THIS CONTRACT IS AND THIS BODY DOESN'T CONTRACT, HE SERVES INDEFINITE WELL UNTIL THEY GET READY. BUT THEY CAN THEY CAN REMOVE HIM THOUGH, RIGHT. LEGAL EAGLE. I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART OF WHAT YOU SAID. I GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE DO NOT GIVE. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PROCESS. DOES HE SERVED UNTIL I SAID NO, THE CONTRACT AT ALL. I THINK IF HE JUST THEY JUST HIRE HIM TO HAVE THEIRS. NO CONTRACT IS WHAT I THOUGHT IT SAID. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. AND AND I MY INTERPRETATION, YOU CAN CORRECT ME LEGALLY IS THAT IF YOU DON'T, THEN THAT PERSON SERVES UNTIL WHENEVER THERE'S NO TERM ON IT. 
          BUT AT ANY POINT IN TIME, I THINK THEY CAN STILL REMOVE THAT PERSON. NOT THAT CORRECT BY THAT. IT'S JUST NOT A FORMAL THING LIKE FROM HERE TO HERE. YEAH. PRETTY MUCH. YUP, YUP. 
          YEAH, YEAH PRETTY MUCH. HEY, CARL VINSON, WE'RE YEAR TO YEAR. ALRIGHT. EXCUSE ME. YOUR TURN ON THE CURRENT CONTRACT. THERE IS NO. TIME FOR THAT. DO YOU REMEMBER? I DON'T REMEMBER HOW I SAID. ALRIGHT, SO MY POWERS AND DUTIES. THIS SHOULD GET INTERESTING. ALRIGHT. POWERS AND DUTIES OF CITY MANAGER. THE CITY MANAGER. CELL. SUBJECT TO THE COST OF CONTROL, DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. ALRIGHT, LET ME READ THAT ONE AGAIN. THE CITY MANAGER SHALL, SUBJECT TO THE POLICY CONTROL, DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, BE THE HEAD OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE BRANCH OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION OF ALL DEPARTMENTS OF SAID MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF ALL CITY AFFAIRS PLACED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S CHARGE BY OR UNDER THIS CHARGE. AS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL. ONE APPOINT. AND WHEN THE CITY MANAGER. DEANS. DEANS ARE NECESSARY FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY, SUSPEND OR MOVE ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES OF THE CITY MANAGER APPOINT EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY LAW OR PERSONNEL. 
          ORDINANCES ADOPTED THE CITY'S CHARTER. THE CITY MANAGER MAY AUTHORIZE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION TO EXERCISE THESE POWERS WITH RESPECT TO SUBORDINATES AND THAT OFFICERS, DEPARTMENT OFFICE OR AGENCY TO DIRECT AND SUPERVISE THE ADMINISTRATION OF ALL DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES AND 
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AGENCIES OF THE CITY EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY THIS CHARTER BY LAW. BUT. DOES HE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT IS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S SUPERVISION IS UP. AS IT SAYS HERE, ALL DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES AND AGENCIES OF THE CITY EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY LAW. THE TASK THAT I WAS GIVEN WAS TO CREATE A LAW TO HAVE A SECTION FOR A EMPLOYEE TO BE SUPERVISED BY ME. HOPEFULLY I'LL GET THAT. WE ARE CREATING THE LAW. SO IF YOU FIT THIS SECTION RIGHT. AND SO I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN HISTORY OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE, BUT IT WAS DONE IN. THAT IT WAS DONE BECAUSE A POSITION WAS CREATED UNDER THE CITY'S. UNDER THE LAYERS OF TRUST. OKAY. BUT THERE HAD NEVER BEEN LAW WAS AMENDED TO CREATE A SECTION THAT TAKES AWAY THE SUPERVISION FROM. CHALLENGE. I ALSO WANT TO ADD TO THIS THAT I WOULD LIKE YOUR STAFF TO. I'M OFFERING SUPPORT NOT TO REPLACE THE CITY MANAGER. SO LIKE YOUR STAFF, IF WE HAVE DIRECT REPORTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US, THE STAFF UNDER YOU MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE HR POLICY DECISIONS THAT THE CITY MANAGER GOVERNS, BUT ULTIMATELY TO MAINTAIN SOME INDEPENDENCE AND AUTONOMY, SHOULD YOUR STAFF REPORT TO YOU, THE CHIEF JUDGE STAFF REPORT TO HER, THE CITY CLERK STAFF REPORT TO HER. SINCE WE DO HAVE FOUR DIRECT REPORTS. SO THE LAW THAT'S PROBABLY AN EXCEPTION ALREADY EXISTS FOR THE CITY, FOR THE CITY CODE. IS THIS RIGHT. SO WE'LL GET TO IT. HE'S GOT SECTION 4-2 OKAY. IN SECTION 4-3. OKAY. RIGHT. SO THAT ALREADY EXISTS. OKAY. NOW. AND THE COUNCIL WANTED TO HAVE STAFF. WOULD IT BE. IT ALREADY IS IN THAT LAW. OKAY. SO THAT YOU DON'T AUTHORITY TO USE SOME LINE IN THE BUDGET TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO HIRE FOLKS. OKAY. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO CREATE THE LAW THAT IS ALREADY SET IN THIS EXCEPTION THAT TAKES AWAY THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION ON. SO NO, GO AHEAD, MR. MAYOR. I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. NO, NO, WE NEED THAT. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER, IS IT? YES HE IS. YES, YES, WE'LL GET THERE. 
          WE'LL GET THERE. OKAY. IT'S 14 AND 16. YES. AND THE. BECAUSE THE LAW THAT YOU HAVE IS NOT YET. DOES THAT ONCE WE. AMEND OUR CHARTER. CORRECT. AND THEN THE AMENDMENT OF THE CHARTER OF OUR MUNICIPAL THEN NEEDS TO BE CLOSE TO ANOTHER STEP LATER ON TO FOLLOW. IS THAT RIGHT? AND SO DOES NOT REQUIRE. AND YOU'RE NOT SAYING THE GOVERNMENT OR TRIGGERING THOSE OTHER CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT REQUIRES YOU TO STATE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. RIGHT. AND SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, A HOME CHARTER DOESN'T REQUIRE THE UNIVERSITY, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THOSE THREE ADVERTISERS. 
          BUT THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION AFTER THAT. AND JUST ONE MORE THING BACK AT THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS THE CITY MANAGER RESPONSIBLE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ADMINISTRATION OF ALL CITY AFFAIRS, THE CITY MANAGER'S CHARGE UNDER THIS CHARTER, FOR THE FIRST LINE OF THAT PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS. CITY COUNCIL THEN ASSUMED AS THE TOTALITY OF THEIR COUNCIL. IN THIS SECTION YOU WILL USE THAT PART? OR IS THAT WHAT IT IS AS COUNCIL. SO. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL, IS IT RIGHT. BUT AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU TALK ABOUT FURTHER EXAMPLES. RIGHT, RIGHT. OUR RESPECTS AND I STATED THAT. AND SO IF THERE IS EVER A DIVISION RIGHT, THEN IT'S. PERIOD. AND THAT CANNOT BE ALL. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR? JUST FOR THIS DISCUSSION 
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BACK TO. THE. ONGOING. CHARTER. DID NOT CREATE THE LAW THAT GAVE SUPERVISION TO THE CHURCH. 
          COUNCIL AS AS DRAFT WAS TO CONSIDER WITH ISSUE ANYTIME. OKAY, SO ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK AND CLARIFY THAT STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY TO TAKE AN EMPLOYEE, CURRENT EMPLOYEE FROM ANYWHERE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AND MOVE THEM TO A PLACE TO SUPPORT THE AGENDA. 
          RIGHT NOW, WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS WITHOUT ANY ISSUE, BECAUSE HE CAN HE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. HE COULD DROP IT OFF AS I THINK WE SHOULD USE THAT. WE DID IT. I THINK WE SHOULD OFFICIALLY DO. THE MAJORITY OF THE. SO WE CAN. VOTE ON. WE CAN GO RIGHT. I BELIEVE THE VOTE ON IT. AND I KNOW THAT I'M BEING CONSISTENT TO THIS. BUT FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OVER THE POWER OF THE CITY MANAGER AND WE AS COUNCIL HAVE HAD CONVERSATION FOR OUR ACTIVITIES, IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR ME, RIGHT? BECAUSE OUR CHARTER ENUMERATES LOTS OF DUTIES. WE'RE ALLOWED TO SET HR POLICY, WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO A LOT. I'M GONNA GET TO THE HR POLICY STUFF. RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO. LIKE THAT SECTION THAT SAYS WE HAVE ALL LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY, THE SECTION BEFORE THAT ACTUALLY OUTLINES WHAT IT MEANS FOR US TO HAVE LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY TO INCLUDE SETTING HR POLICIES, WHICH COULD BE WHAT YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY ASKING TO DO. WELL, HE HE SUPERVISES EVERYTHING. SO HE HAS THE RIGHT TO PROMOTE WITHOUT WITHOUT OUR VOTE. SO REGARDLESS. CORRECT. BUT MY POINT IS THAT RIGHT NOW, LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, OUR BODY MAY BE, BUT EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF WHAT OUR ROLE IS, IT'S OUR BODY, I THINK LACKS CLARITY ON OUR PATHWAYS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT LIKE WE'RE ALLOWED TO TAX, WE'RE ALLOWED TO COLLECT FEES, WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. AND ULTIMATELY, THAT'S HOW OUR CITY MANAGER GETS HIS POWER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? FOR SURE. BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC ISSUE. RIGHT? OKAY. WHAT SHE'S WHAT SHE'S REFERRING TO. THERE'S 48 POWERS THAT'S ENUMERATED TO Y'ALL. 48 AND I CAN GET TO THOSE, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE BOAT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. ALRIGHT, SO NEXT POSITIVE DUTIES, CITY MANAGER, SEE ALL THAT OR SEE THAT ALL LAWS, PROVISIONS OF THIS CHARTER AND ACTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, SUBJECT TO ENFORCEMENT BY THE CITY MANAGER OR BY OFFICERS SUBJECT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION OF FAITHFULLY EXECUTED. PREPARE AND SUBMIT THE ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND CAPITAL BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SUBMIT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC A COMPLETE REPORT ON THE FINANCES AND ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES OF THE CITY. AS OF THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. MAKE SUCH OTHER REPORTS AS THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REQUIRE CONCERNING THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES AND AGENCIES SUBJECT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION. OKAY. EXCUSE ME, MR. JONES, DO YOU HAVE A DATE SET FOR WHEN YOU'RE DOING ITEM SIX? SO THIS IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR END. OF FISCAL YEAR. SO ARE WE DOING THE REPORT? ARE YOU DOING A PUBLIC REPORT. SO THIS IS IN THE FINDINGS AND ACTIVITIES FOR FY 26. AFTER THE END OF FY 26. OKAY. LOOKING AT THAT. ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES, LET'S START APPLYING. SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT ARE 
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THOSE ACTIVITIES BEING. AND I'M NOT ASKING THE QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER OR ADDITIONAL WORK, BUT TO ME, THAT'S VERY OKAY. SO WHAT ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES ARE SO WE COULD SAVE US THREE BULLETS. THESE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES AND OKAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT. THAT'S THAT'S I'LL SAY THIS. YOU GUYS CAN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TALK SET EXPECTATIONS ON WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WANT, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE REPORT THAT YOU GET. AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU WILL AND WILL NOT BE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU LOOK AT AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT Y'ALL WANT TO BE REPORTED ON? AND WHAT DOES THE REPORT NEED TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU FEEL LIKE MAY BE MISSING IN THE REPORT? AND ASK SOME THINGS THAT YOU IF IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF VAGUE WHEN YOU GET THE REPORT TO KIND OF TAKE A DEEPER DIVE BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE LIKE ADMINISTRATIVE. YOU THINK ABOUT, LIKE YOU SAID, HOW BROAD THAT IS. THAT COULD BE EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE LIKE, SO-AND-SO CAME TO WORK LATE TODAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT COULD BE EVERYTHING, RIGHT? SO I THINK IT'S UP FOR YOU ALL AS A BODY IN THAT BOAT TO KIND OF SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE THINGS WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, RIGHT? HERE'S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO LOOK INTO. HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          OKAY. I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THAT IS AMBIGUOUS, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT. ALL OTHER DUTIES NOT ASSIGNED THING. IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT BECAUSE ADMINISTRATIVE, HE'S SUPPOSED TO PICK ALL THAT STUFF UP AND HANDLE IT. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT THAT COMES IN AND DOES CAUSE AMBIGUITY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S JOB, YOU SAY, WHAT ARE THE OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED? NOBODY CAN TELL YOU, CAN THEY? UNTIL SOMEBODY TELLS THEM, DO IT RIGHT. THEY NEED TO MAKE ANY EDITS TO THIS. WE CAN JUST PROVIDE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND THIS COULD BE ANYTHING. WE COULD GIVE THEM THIS. THAT'S RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. LEGAL EAGLE. AM I ABOUT RIGHT ON THAT ONE? OKAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK WE STOPPED THAT. SO LET'S GO MAKE SUCH REPORTS AS THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REQUIRE. MAKE OTHER SUCH REPORTS AS THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REQUIRE CONCERNING THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES AND AGENCIES, CITY MANAGER'S DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION. AND SO THAT KIND OF PICKS UP ON SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          SEND THESE EXPECTATIONS. RIGHT. OKAY. KEEP THE CITY COUNCIL FULLY ADVISED AS OF THE FINANCIAL CONDITION AND FUTURE NEEDS OF THE CITY, AND MAKE SUCH RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY AS A CITY MANAGER DEEMED DESIRABLE. OKAY. 
          GOOD STUFF, I LIKE IT. LET'S GO TO ADDITIONAL POWERS SOME MORE. AND THE REASON I'M OUTLINING THESE, OKAY, BECAUSE IF WE LOOK INSIDE THE BOAT, OKAY, WE LOOK INSIDE THE BOAT, INSIDE THE BOAT, PEOPLE HAVE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES INSIDE THE BOAT. I WANT YOU ALL TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHAT INSIDE THE BOAT. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST USE OF OUR TIME. LOOKING AT THE BOAT, THE PEOPLE SITTING RIGHT HERE. LET'S LOOK WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE CENTER ROW, ROW, ROW, WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE ROWING AND WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING INSIDE THE BOAT. 
          BECAUSE THE BETTER UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE WITH THESE EXPECTATIONS AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL ARE ASKING, FANTASTIC. THAT HELPS CLARIFY PEOPLE'S ROLE IN THE BOAT. OKAY, SO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY AND FACILITATE THE WORK OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND DEVELOPING POLICY. ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL TO DEVELOP LONG TERM GOALS FOR THE CITY AND STRATEGIES TO IMPLEMENT THESE GOALS. 
          ENCOURAGE AND PROVIDE STAFF SUPPORT FOR REGIONAL AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS. 
          PROMOTE PARTNERSHIPS AMONG CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND CITIZENS, AND DEVELOPING PUBLIC POLICY AND BUILDING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND PERFORM OTHER SUCH DUTIES AS ARE SPECIFIED IN THIS CHARTER OR MAY BE REQUIRED BY THE COUNCIL. YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THOSE CATCH ALL AND ANYTHING YOU DO, BECAUSE HE HAS TO LIVE UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS AND YOUR EXPECTATIONS. YOU DICTATE WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE ABOUT THESE THINGS. OKAY. BUT YES, YES. NO, NO. GO AHEAD. NO THANKS. OKAY. WELL, AS THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. 
          RIGHT. AND IT TAKES ALL THE POWER. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. THAT WAS GIVEN TO HIM BY THE COUNCIL WHEN THEY SET THEIR POLICY. HE HAS HIS OWN BOAT THAT HAS THE FUNCTION AND OPERATE AND BE ALIGNED AND FOCUSED TO CARRY OUT WHAT YOU ASKED TO BE DONE. OKAY. RIGHT. YEAH. CAN I CAN I SAY SOMETHING ELSE? IF WE GO TO THE BOAT ANALOGY, HE GIVES OUT THE OARS. YEAH. TO ALL THOSE ON THEIR BOAT TO. HE GETS OUT THE LITTLE SPEAKER. HE'S SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THEM, RIGHT. HE'S, 
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HE'S THEIR PERSONAL. HE'S THEIR DIRECT PERSONAL. HE'S THEIR DIRECT WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATIONS. AND THEY SAY THEY WANT THIS. OKAY, LET'S SAY BULLDOG NATION SAYS DOG GONE AND KIRBY SMART, WE WANT YOU TO WIN ONE. THAT'S THE CITIZENS. NOW HE HAS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          RIGHT. WE WANT YEAH WE WANT THIS. WE WANT THAT. Y'ALL SAID, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED, MR. JONES. WE NEED SOME NEW OARS. WE NEED A LITTLE THING THAT SAYS SO ON. SO WE NEED TO POLISH THE BOAT SO THEY GO FASTER, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY. I. SAID I THINK THAT'S. AN INTERESTING AREA BECAUSE BY HIM AND WE ARE EMPOWERING HIM WITH HIS RESPONSE. YES. AND WHEN HIS STAFF IS EXECUTED AT HIS WHERE HE IS AT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S STILL THO OPPORTUNITY WITHIN. COUNCIL MAY SEE SOMETHING THAT THEY. FEEL LIKE NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE OPEN ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN. YES, SIR. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S IT. YEAH. I THINK WE ARE. OKAY. YOU DON'T THINK THAT WE GET IN WITH. 
          OKAY. LIKE. RIGHT. LIKE DIRECT SUPERVISION OVER HIS VOICE, RIGHT? HIS HEART IS. RIGHT. I THINK IT'S A MIRACLE, BUT I DON'T THINK SO. CAN I SAY ONE THING AND I'LL LET YOU? YOU KNOW, YOU GO FIRST. YOU GO FIRST. GO FIRST. COME ON. WHAT YOU GOT? I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK ALL OF THE WORKERS HERE PUT HIM SQUARELY IN OUR OWN IN A VERY VAGUE AND VERY HOLISTIC WAY. ASSIST CITY COUNCIL, ENCOURAGE AND PROVIDE STAFF, PROMOTE PARTNERSHIPS. ONE OTHER THING THAT'S VERY LANGUAGE. SO I THINK THAT CLARITY. SO CAN I SAY ONE OTHER THING ABOUT. WHEN YOU SAY. WHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT. THERE'S TWO ROLES. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TWO BOOKS, BUT EXECUTIONS. AND GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE, PLEASE. I MEAN, THIS TO ME, AGAIN, THE VERBIAGE HERE IS VERY WRONG. ASSIST CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS AND ANYBODY CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS. FOR PARTNERSHIPS CAN MEAN A LOT. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT I THINK IT PUSHES HIM MORE SEVERE THAN WE ARE. YES. I THINK THE NOTION THAT WE OFTEN HEAR THAT THE MANAGER IS OVERSTEPPING HIS BOUNDS IN THIS MAY NOT SUPPORT THAT LANGUAGE. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. LET ME GIVE AN EXAMPLE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO DISMOUNT THIS HORSE. GO AHEAD. WE ARE NOT IN THE DAY TO DAY MANAGEMENT OF THE FINANCES. SO HE SHOULD BE ADVISING US ON FINANCIAL POLICY THAT ULTIMATELY ALLOWS US TO MAKE A DECISION. SO HE ENCOURAGES AND INFLUENCES US BY PROVIDING INFORMATION TO US THAT THEN SHAPES OUR DECISION. AND WE DECIDE THAT WHAT HE'S PROVIDING US, WE DON'T WANT TO ADOPT, BUT HE PLAYS AN INFLUENTIAL ROLE IN HELPING US FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT. OKAY. SO LET LET ME. OKAY, Y'ALL HOLD ON. Y'ALL GO OUT TO CALL THEM TO WHATEVER. AND Y'ALL DON'T JUST SAY, OH, WE WANT THIS IDEA. RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME BACK IN AND TELL HIM WHAT YOU DOING, RIGHT? ALRIGHT. YEAH, IT WORKS BOTH WAYS. SO LET ME SAY THIS, Y'ALL, BECAUSE WE GOTTA EXPAND ON THIS, OKAY? WE'RE KIND OF GETTING BOGGED DOWN LOOKING AT OUR TIME. HERE'S WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT THE BOAT THING BECAUSE WE KIND OF, WE KIND OF, YEAH, I KNOW, BUT WE KIND OF JUMPED ON THIS BOAT THING. I THINK WE'RE GOING IN CIRCLES BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANALOGY. SO HERE'S WHAT I'LL SAY. OKAY. THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAID ANYTHING WRONG IN HERE. HE'S SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ROWING THE BOAT. IF THAT MEANS Y'ALL NEED NEW OARS, YOU GOTTA GET YOU NEW OARS. IF YOU NEED NEW EQUIPMENT, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET NEW EQUIPMENT. 
          AND GUESS WHERE HE GETS THAT FROM? HE MAY GET IT FROM HIS STAFF. THAT'S WHERE HE MAY SAY, WE NEED THIS. WE NEED THIS. WE NEED NEW OARS. WE NEED THIS. WE NEED NEW UNIFORMS. WE NEED NEW SHOES. GUESS WHAT? HE GOES TO THE STAFF GETS THAT. MAKE SURE Y'ALL GOT IT. IF HE DOES NOT DO THAT, THEN Y'ALL HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. THEN IT 
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BECOMES MORE OF A SOME TYPE OF VOTE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF HE'S DOING HIS JOB DAY TO DAY AND HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH DOING HIS JOB, AND HE PRESENTS A SITUATION WHERE HE IS UNCLEAR, THEN HE CAN THEN REFER BACK TO THE BODY. YES, YES, YES FOR THE DIRECTION THAT HE NEEDS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU CAN ASSESS WHETHER THAT IS OVER OR UNDER UTILIZED HIM AS A CITY MANAGER. ABSOLUTELY. HEY, THESE OARS SUCK. THESE OARS YOU GAVE US SUCK. HE'S GOTTA REPLACE THEM. HOW DO THEY WORK? BLAH BLAH BLAH. OKAY, NOW Y'ALL, LET'S THE BOAT STUFF. IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, I GET IT, I GET IT, I GET IT, I KNOW I GET IT, I GET IT. WE STILL HAVE STUFF TO COVER. SO THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT ABOUT WHAT HE SHOULD BE DOING. LET'S CUT THROUGH THE ANALOGY AND SEE IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC THING THAT WE DIDN'T TALK TO HIM ABOUT RIGHT NOW, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING AROUND THE BOULDER THING. LET'S JUST MAKE IT IN REAL LIFE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO MAKE OUR. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE ADJECTIVE. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. I MIGHT NOT HAVE COVERED BASED ON WHAT I'M GETTING BACK. SO I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR CLARITY SO I CAN GET A COUPLE OF. OKAY, SO THERE IS AMBIGUITY AMONGST THE COUNCIL. 
          I CAN, YOU KNOW, I WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND. IT MIGHT BE AN UNCOMFORTABLE TOPIC. LIKE I HAD TO BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT. I DON'T HAVE THAT. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT BEFORE. I MIGHT BE ASKING. OKAY. AND I THINK IN THIS EXAMPLE, I THINK IN THIS EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS NOT SO BAD, I THINK IN THIS EXAMPLE, THERE IS MAYBE THE PRESENCE OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE. 
          AND AS EXECUTIVE IN THE CITY. OKAY. IN MY EXPERIENCE IN CORPORATE, MY CHALLENGE IS THE DECIPHERING OF PERSONAL VERSUS WHATEVER ELSE IT IS. BECAUSE THEN WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SPACE OF PERSONAL, THEN IT MAKES IT AMBIGUOUS, I GUESS, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, IF WE'RE DEALING WITH ONES AND ZEROS, FACTS AND DOCUMENTATION AND THOSE THINGS. THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF TRUST COMFORT RELATIONSHIP THERE THAT I CAN SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY LISTENING TO THE PERSONAL ASPECTS OF SOMETHING, BUT YOU WILL EXERCISE YOUR WHOLE RIGHT AS AN EXECUTIVE TO DO X, Y, AND Z IN THAT. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR NOT JUST ONE PERSON, BUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR EVERYONE WHEN PERSONAL COMES IN? IT BECOMES A SUBJECTIVE RATHER THAN I THINK IT JUST GOES. HE IS IN A HIRED HIM TO TO REGISTER. WE GIVE. WE CAN COME UP WITH THE VISION, THE HIGH LEVEL AND IT'S GIVEN TO HIM TO EXECUTE. HOW WE EXECUTE IS UP TO HIM. IF WE DO SEE IT GOING OFF COURSE, WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND WE CAN SAY, HEY, MAJORITY OF US FEEL LIKE THIS AND THEREFORE HE TRUSTS WHAT HE'S DOING AND IT MOVES EVERYTHING IN INTERACTION. AND YES, AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE UNCLEAR ON, THEN YOU COME BACK VERY DIRECT AND SAY, I'M UNCLEAR ON THIS. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. BUT THAT'S WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE GOAL TO SEE WHERE IS THE MAJORITY SIT ON THIS SO YOU KNOW HOW TO ACCESS. SO IN THIS SITUATION, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR. SO IF IT'S A PERSONAL PREFERENCE IT CAN BE WELL YEAH. NO BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE CHIEF OF STAFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE REASON WHY I PICKED THAT WAS BECAUSE. THERE WAS BECAUSE BECAUSE COUNCILWOMAN CAME IN, CALLED AND EXPRESSED HER PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT THE WAY FORWARD. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I USED A PERSONAL. I, I EXPRESSED THE CONCERN THAT WE WERE VIOLATING. OPERATING OUTSIDE THE CHARTER. 
          OKAY. AND SO THAT REALLY SHOULD HAVE COME BACK BEFORE US TO SAY, HERE'S THE SITUATION. HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT IT? AND THAT WAY HE HAS HIS DIRECTION. YEAH. SO YOU SAID THAT WE WERE NOT OPERATING OUTSIDE. NO, NOT WHEN I THINK THAT THE PROCESS THAT WAS BEING. THAT THE APPROACH THAT WAS BEING UTILIZED, I MEAN, IT WASN'T. SO LET ME EXPLAIN THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S POINT. 
          THE MAYOR HAD AN ASSISTANT. I DON'T KNOW THE USE OF THE TERM CHIEF OF STAFF. THERE'S NO 
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STAFF ASSISTANT. RIGHT? AT THE END OF THE LAST TERM, THE PERSON IN THAT ROLE MOVED ON TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? SO IT'S ONBOARD SOMEONE ELSE. AND FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BASED ON WHAT THE CHART SAYS WAS. THAT OKAY, WHEN THAT PERSON THAT MOVED TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT CAME BACK TO THE BEARS, THEY SAID, HE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          HE CAN SAY, YOU CAN COME FROM THIS TEAM AND GO WORK HERE. AND SO THAT WE FINALIZE THAT. THAT WAS THE QUESTION AND THAT PERSON INTO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, BUT THEN WENT BACK BECAUSE OF A CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I SAID HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, BUT BECAUSE BECAUSE THERE'S A I WAS LIKE, OKAY, SO LET, LET, LET ME JUMP IN FOR A SECOND. I DO HAVE TO GO GET MY STRIPED SHIRT. LET'S DO THIS. I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL SPEAK. 
          WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THEN? WE'RE GOING TO YOU GUYS NEED TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL LEGAL IS ON THAT. IF IT DID OR DID NOT HAPPEN, BECAUSE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T SOLVE THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT I'LL LET YOU SAY YOUR PIECE AND LET YOU SAY YOUR PIECE. BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT PROBABLY YOU SHOULD GET A LEGAL OPINION ON, TO BE CLEAR ON IT AND KNOW HOW TO PROCEED, BECAUSE WE CAN'T DEBATE IT IN HERE. WE ONLY HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME. SO LET HER SAY WHAT SHE HAS SAID AND LET YOU SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. OKAY, FOLKS. YES, YES. YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ARE YOU YOU CAN EQUALLY CAN YOU? I JUST WANT HER TO CALL. OKAY? OKAY. CAN YOU PASS ON AND. FOR. NOW, OKAY. AND. 
          WHO'S HERE? 20 MINUTES AND. OKAY, SO YOU SAY YOUR THING. I'M LET HER SAY HER THING AND THEN LET'S BECAUSE BECAUSE MY, MY THING FROM OUTSIDE LOOKING IN IS AS A FACILITATOR, Y'ALL HAVE TO GET A LEGAL OPINION ON IT, DETERMINE WHAT THE REAL DEAL IS. OTHER THAN THAT, WE CAN KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH. YES, SIR. YOU'RE CORRECT. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS UNLAWFUL. 
          I THINK THAT IT WAS A NOT IN LINE WITH THE DECISION BY THE COUNCIL THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS CHARTERED, AND WE WOULD FOLLOW THAT TO FILL THAT ROLE. AT NO TIME AM I AWARE OF THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD GO THE OTHER ROUTE AND HAVE THE CITY. MOVES TOWARD. THAT IS A PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S DUTIES. SO I JUST THINK THAT IN THAT INSTANCE, IT WAS, OH, THIS IS WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO DO. BUT THIS ROUTE IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT ELSE TO DO. I THINK THEY CHANGED. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS. YES. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO IS IT APPROPRIATE TO CONTINUE. IS THAT SO OUR OUR MAYBE TAKE SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OUT AND JUST SAY WE DECIDED ON SOMETHING THAT DID NOT CHANGE THAT PROCESS STILL COULD CONTINUE. THIS WOULD PUT THE OTHER PIECE WAS A TEMPORARY SITUATION BECAUSE WE ALL ALSO AGREED IN SPECIFICS FOR A TEMPORARY SITUATION. BUT I DO THINK IN ALL OF THESE WHERE WE HAVE THESE DIFFERENCES, WE, LIKE YOU SAY, WE NEED TO FIRST UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAW SAYS AROUND IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. 
          AND THEN IF THERE'S STILL SOME UNCLARITY, THEN IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. EXACTLY. OKAY. LET'S KEEP IN MIND. SO TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE WERE, I THINK THE CONVERSATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN I GAVE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS CHANGE, THE FEEDBACK ALSO CONTAINED THINGS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CHARTER THAT WERE CHANGES. THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT WERE NOT DISCUSSED AND AGREED UPON BY. THAT'S NOT US. NO. BUT THE IT WASN'T HIM. OH, OKAY. OKAY, YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE GETTING IN IN ZONES NOW THAT'S GOING TO PUSH YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST I'M JUST 
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STATING IT, Y'ALL. YOU KNOW, IT'S Y'ALL'S MEETING. Y'ALL CAN DO WHAT YOU REALLY WHAT YOU DESIRE TO DO, BUT Y'ALL ARE GETTING IN ZONES AND, AND WEEDS. NOW THAT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE SINCE THIS IS A ONBOARDING AND ORIENTATION PIECE MAY BE MORE IMPORTANT TO HANDLE, MAYBE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR WORK SESSION OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. 
          THAT'S MY $0.02 ON IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. OKAY. IF ARE WE TAKING THIS IN ONE FELL SWOOP OR IF IT'S BEING, ARE WE BREAKING IT DOWN TO. TAKING ANY OTHER LIKE REQUIRED? LET'S JUST TAKE THE PERSON AND ALL. HAVE A FULL, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION WITHOUT BY JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. IT'S NOT THE FORM. IT'S TOO MUCH DETAIL TO STAY VERY HIGH LEVEL. AND SO I ASK THAT YOU ELIMINATE THE SESSION ON THE AGENDA. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU HOLD THAT CONVERSATION TABLETS PAGE, BECAUSE WE CAN GO BACK TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE CHART. WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION MORE FULLY IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION SINCE IT DOES INCLUDE PERSONNEL, BUT YOU YOU WILL BE FRUSTRATED. YOU TYPE IT OUT INSTEAD. OKAY. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD DEFINE WHAT THE OBJECTIVES ARE? NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT AS WE DISCUSSED, KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW SO THAT WE ARE LIKE CHECKING THE BOX? YES. AND IS THERE A WAY TO FRAME IT SO THAT IT DOES DISCWORLD PER SE, BUT IT GOES INTO WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW IS THAT AND DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. SO WE GO TO THE LAW, WE FIND OUT WHAT THE LAW SAYS ABOUT IT. WE UNDERSTAND OUR ACTIONS, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE GO TO THE LAW. AND THEN IF IF THERE'S A NEED TO LIKE PROVIDE THEM WITH DIRECTION FROM THERE WITHIN THE LAW, WE CAN TAKE. OKAY, ALRIGHT. ARE WE GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, RIGHT? SO THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE VENUE, RIGHT? SO LET'S KEEP EVERYTHING ALIGNED SO WE CAN KIND OF GET ON THIS PART SO WE CAN GET THAT PART AND MAKE NOTES LIKE Y'ALL DID. SO WILL Y'ALL KNOW WHAT TO TALK ABOUT AND WORK SESSION, EXECUTIVE SESSION. I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC BECAUSE Y'ALL WILL BE SOLVING PROBLEMS. OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. THE CITY MANAGER SHALL APPOINT A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER WHO SHALL REPORT TO AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND CARRYING OUT THE FUNCTIONS, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SHALL BE SUBJECT TO CONFIRMATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL. ALRIGHT. ACTING CITY MANAGER, BY LETTER FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL DESIGNATE A QUALIFIED CITY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER TO EXERCISE THE POWERS AND PERFORM THE DUTIES OF THE CITY MANAGER DURING HIS OR HER TEMPORARY ABSENCE OR DISABILITY FOR A PERIOD OF NOT TO EXCEED TWO WEEKS. IF THE DEPUTY CITY CITY MANAGER IS UNAVAILABLE TO PERFORM THESE DUTIES. WHEN BOTH THE CITY MANAGER AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ARE UNABLE TO PERFORM THESE DUTIES FOR MORE THAN A TWO WEEK PERIOD, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT AN ACTING CITY MANAGER FROM AMONG THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, INCLUDING THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDING THE CHIEFS OF POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS. YES. CITY MANAGER. CITY ENTITIES IN A SINGLE MEETING. DOES HE HAVE TO PROVIDE OFFICIAL ACT? SEND A MESSAGE TO THE CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING AND THEREFORE THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, ACTING CITY MANAGER AT THIS MOMENT. THAT. THE CHARTER SAYS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO IF THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A WAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ALERT YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE AWAY. THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IF THE CITY MANAGER NEEDS TO BE ASKED, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE? THIS SPECIFIES TWO WEEKS. BUT IF YOU NEED TO VISIT A SINGLE MEETING, DOES HE. DOES HE HAVE TO TELL WHO IS GOING TO BE ACTING? SO I THINK IT'S ABOUT, OKAY, THE. THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT. CHARLOTTE IS MISSING AND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO PASS THOSE IN DRAFTING LANGUAGE THAT CLARIFIES. YOU WANT SOMETHING EVEN UNDER I I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT WE'VE HAD 
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COUNCIL CONCERNED ABOUT HIS ABSENCE FROM THE MEETING. AND SO IF HE'S GOING TO BE ABSENT FROM A MEETING, I'M JUST ASKING HERE'S, HERE'S MY QUESTION. IF THE CHARTER IS SILENT ON AN ISSUE. BUT WE DO. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YOU CAN SOMETIMES THE SILENCE MAY BE TO STAY LONGER. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. OR IF YOU NEED BY THE WILL OF THE GUARDIAN. RIGHT. 
          YOU GUYS DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS. AND IF THERE IS SILENCE, IF YOU DECIDE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT YOU SHOULD DO A LITTLE BUSINESSES ALSO HAS ACCESS AS. I THINK THE QUESTION WAS. WHAT IS THE NOTIFICATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER? NOT NECESSARILY THAT HE APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CHARTER OR IF HE'S OUT OF TOWN OR TRAINING. HE'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE THAT THERE'S NOTIFICATION PROVIDED. BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE BEYOND THESE HE NEEDS TO APPOINT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYWHERE ELSE IN REGARDS TO HOW YOU NOTIFY US, BUT I WILL RESERVE THAT IF THERE IS NO ONE ELSE IN CHARGE OF THAT. I'M SORRY. OKAY, SO LET'S GO TO REMOVAL. EXCEPT WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE HIRING OF THE CITY MANAGER. AND SUCH AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR DIFFERENT PROCEDURES REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY. THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REMOVE THE CITY MANAGER FROM OFFICE ONLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES. ONE THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL ADOPT BY AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF TWO THIRDS OF ITS MEMBERS A PRELIMINARY RESOLUTION WHICH SHALL STATE THE REASONS FOR REMOVAL AND MAY SUSPEND THE CITY MANAGER FROM DUTY FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 45 DAYS. A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION SHALL BE DELIVERED PROMPTLY TO THE CITY MANAGER. 
          ALRIGHT. WITHIN FIVE DAYS AFTER A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION IS DELIVERED TO THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY MANAGER MAY FILE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THIS HEARING SHALL BE HELD WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE REQUEST IS FILED. THE CITY MANAGER MAY FILE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL A WRITTEN REPLY NO LATER THAN FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING. THREE IF THE CITY MANAGER HAS NOT REQUESTED A PUBLIC HEARING WITHIN THE TIME SPECIFIED IN PARAGRAPH TWO OF THIS SECTION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT THE FINAL RESOLUTION FOR REMOVAL, WHICH MAY BE MADE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, AND AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF A MAJORITY OF ITS MEMBERS. IF THE CITY MANAGER HAS REQUESTED A PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT A FINAL RESOLUTION FOR REMOVAL, WHICH MAY BE MADE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY BY AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF TWO THIRDS OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AT ANY TIME AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE CITY MANAGER SHALL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THE SALARY UNTIL THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF A FINAL RESOLUTION OF THE. OKAY. NOW THAT TAKES US TO GOVERNANCE ON ARTICLE TWO. BUT THIS IS RELATIONSHIPS WHICH I HAD ASKED YOU ALL ABOUT. NOW WE'RE REALLY GETTING INTO NITTY GRITTY. I'M ALMOST SCARED TO BRING UP VOTE, BUT I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP. 
          THIS IS THE NITTY GRITTY PART OF THE VOTE OF HOW PEOPLE OPERATE WITH EACH OTHER. 
          ALRIGHT. RELATIONSHIP AMONGST MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER. ALRIGHT. OUR SECTION ROLE DELINEATION, ROLE DELINEATION. NOW WE'RE ON HERE. WHO DOES WHAT, WHO DOES THAT? OKAY, ALRIGHT. BASED UPON THE FIRM BELIEF THAT THE PROPER, EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S CITY COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT WILL BE FOSTERED BY A CLEAR DEFINITION OF THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER. THIS CHARTER PROVISION STATES THE FOLLOWING PRINCIPLES, WHICH ARE INTENDED TO BE FULLY CONSISTENT WITH THIS ARTICLE. ALRIGHT ONE THE FULL AND COMPLETE LEGISLATIVE AND POLICY MAKING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY RESIDES IN THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND THE CITY MANAGER SHALL TAKE NO ACTION WHICH IMPINGES UPON THE OR INTERFERES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY MAKING ROLE. OTHER THAN PROVIDING INFORMATION RELEVANT AND GERMANE TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE DELIBERATIONS, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL STRIVE TO REMAIN A NEUTRAL PARTY IN SUCH LEGISLATIVE DELIBERATIONS TO ENSURE THAT UTILITY AND APPEARANCE OF NEUTRALITY. 
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NEITHER THE CITY MANAGER NOR ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS SHALL PARTICIPATE IN ANY POLITICAL ACTIVITY ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR, ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR ANY CANDIDATE FOR SUCH OFFICE, NOR SHALL THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD MAKE ANY POLITICAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE MAYOR, ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR ANY CANDIDATE FOR SUCH OFFICES, THE MAYOR AND CITY. 
          THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL NOT SOLICIT OR ACCEPT ANY CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ANY CITY EMPLOYEE. ALRIGHT. TWO THE CITY MANAGER IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE CITY AND AS SUCH, ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS EXCEPT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY CLERK WHO ARE APPOINTED BY AND REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER. SO I TALKED WITH THE CHIEF JUDGE ALSO ABOUT. SHE IS SO I HAVE NOT MAYBE SOMEWHERE ELSE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, SIR. YES, YES, YES. I'M SORRY. SO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU WANT TO COMMENT. ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES DIRECT REPORTS. OKAY. SO WE CAN'T HAVE THIS PERSON. PLEASE. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF THAT PERSON CAME BEFORE THIS SECTION, THAT'S ONE APPROACH. OKAY. BUT THERE WAS. A SPORTS TOURNAMENT THAN JUST THAT. OKAY, SO LET'S LOOK AT IT AND DETERMINE IF THIS SHOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT. I DON'T THINK THAT DISPENSE WITH. IT, JUST THAT, OKAY, THAT PROBABLY DOES NEED TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE OF THIS SECTION. OKAY. THE LAST LETTER NUMBER THREE AND FOUR, OR AT LEAST NUMBER THREE. THREE RESPONSIBILITY. TO OPERATE. YEAH. THAT ONE, THAT ONE RESTRICTED OR UNLESS PROVIDED BY BYLAW. RIGHT. YOU DON'T UNLIMITED. ARE YOU GOING TO SAY UNLESS PROVIDED BY LAW AND THE LAW IS THE CREATION OF OUR NEW CLASSES. OKAY. GOOD STUFF. ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE WHERE I AM. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL NOT IN ANY MANNER DICTATE THE APPOINTMENT OR REMOVAL OF ANY CITY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES AND EMPLOYEES WHOM THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY OF HIS OR HER SUBORDINATES ARE EMPOWERED TO APPOINT. OKAY, OKAY. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WE GET FEEDBACK ON THE ACTIONS OF A SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE. WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WELL, MAYBE EVEN GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET ME JUST MAKE MY QUESTION VERY CLEAR. HOW DO WE GIVE INFORMATION TO THE CITY MANAGER? AS I SAID, THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD RESULT IN THEIR TERMINATION. BUT A RESIDENT IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF EMPLOYEES AND ANOTHER EMPLOYEE IS PLANNING TO ANOTHER. HOW DO WE SHARE THAT WITH CITY MANAGER? RIGHT. YOU JUST EXPLAINED. DID I SAY NUMBER TWO? IF YOU HAVE CITY MANAGER. SO IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW. MR. JONES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THINGS THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ABOUT THE OTHER EMPLOYEES AND MANAGER KNOWS ABOUT ACTIONS THAT THE CITY MANAGER DOES WHAT HE DOES ABOUT IT. YOU CAN'T GO DOWN THAT PATH. RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S IT. I UNDERSTAND. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HOLD THE CITY MANAGER ACCOUNTABLE, BUT I'M SORRY, THIS IS NOT RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIS PROFESSIONAL OPINION. YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH THAT MAJORITY. 
          BUT IT'S MORE LIKE HIS EVALUATION. YOU MAY SAY, I DON'T LIKE ANY OF THESE THINGS. 
          AND THAT CAN BE A PART OF YOUR EVALUATION FOR HIM. BUT HE'S IN CHARGE OF THE FOR EXAMPLE, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, SAY, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE GET AN ANONYMOUS LETTER, ARE WE ALLOWED TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM YOUR EMPLOYEES FOR OUR ACTIONS? YES, WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. AND WE SAY, WHY? 
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BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER. DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE INVESTIGATIVE AUTHORITY OVER ALL CITY? YUP, YUP. THAT'S IN THERE. YEP. OKAY. GOOD QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE STILL HOLDING B EXCEPT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION OR INQUIRY AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL BY THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE PURSUANT TO SECTION 2-202 OF THIS CHARTER, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL DEAL WITH CITY OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES WHO ARE SUBJECT TO THE DIRECT AND SUPERVISION OF THE CITY MANAGER SOLELY THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, AND NEITHER THE MAYOR NOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL GIVE ORDERS TO ANY SUCH OFFICERS. 
          EMPLOYEES EITHER PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY. HE IS YOUR EMPLOYEE. HE'S ONE OF Y'ALL'S EMPLOYEE. 
          THIS IS WHO YOU HE HEAVY IS THE HEAD THAT WEARS THE CROWN. HE'S ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO. AND HE. HE'S ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DO. AND Y'ALL HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DO. THAT'S IT. AND IT ALL FALLS ON HIM. HE'S Y'ALL'S EMPLOYEE. LIKE, HEY, WE THIS, THIS, THIS, THOSE EXPECTATIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE GOALS. IT ALL FALLS ON HIM. THAT'S GENERALLY HOW IT WORKS. AND WHEN THE INVESTIGATION PART IS IN HERE. BUT SOMETIMES THINGS WILL GET KIND OF QUIRKY. AND Y'ALL DO HAVE THAT POWER TO GET AS A COUNCIL SAY, HEY, WE CAN INVESTIGATE THIS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S YOUR GUY AND THAT'S THE GUY YOU HOLD ACCOUNTABLE AND YOU THROW HIM THE ROSES, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT HE'S THE PERSON THAT YOU SAY, HEY, THIS ISN'T GOING RIGHT. I'VE BEEN HEARING THIS ABOUT SO AND SO PUBLIC WORKS. I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS. IT JUST CAME TO MY MIND, HEY, YOU NEED TO TIGHTEN THAT UP. HE'S THE PERSON WHO'S SUPPOSED TO TIGHTEN IT. IF HE DOESN'T, THEN YOU GUYS DECIDE ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH HIM BECAUSE HE'S YOUR EMPLOYEE, NOT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, NOT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO WORK FOR THE CITY. HE IS. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A SEPARATE LAW PROTOCOL, COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL THAT SAYS WE ASK THE QUESTION OF THE STAFF. WE HAVE TO HAVE RECEIVED THAT. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. HOWEVER, I THINK MY QUESTION IS THIS IF WE'RE ASKING A STAFF MEMBER A QUESTION ABOUT THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE OR AS WE CALL THEM UP THERE, SUPER ISSUE. I'M ASKING THE QUESTION OF STAFF. YES, I COPIED THE CITY MANAGER, BUT LIKE, DOES STAFF HAVE TO RESPOND? LIKE, DOES THAT ANSWER QUESTIONS? I READ THIS AS GIVING DIRECTIVES. NOT THAT. SO THEY SHOULD THERE SHOULD BE A PRACTICE OF THEM RESPONDING TO OUR QUESTIONS. I WOULD I WILL SAY THAT AND LET YOU GET HOW YOU WANT THIS TO Y'ALL. WHAT'S YOUR EXPECTATION? WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM GO THROUGH THIS THING. THIS CHANGES WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GATHER. IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE GPS. CAN I ASK YOUR STAFF ABOUT THE FACTS OF THE CASE? AND CAN THEY RESPOND TO US TOO? PLEASE FORWARD QUESTIONS. OKAY. SHOULD RETURN TO THE RECORD BY THE. TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND THEN I SAY READ THAT BEFORE THE EVENT COMES BACK DOWN. SO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH WITH AN INVESTIGATIVE RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU ALL HAVE. FOLLOW ME DOWN TO THE. WE NEED TO RESPOND TO THIS BY THE END OF THE WEEK. 
          OKAY. SO IN THE DIRECTIVE, HEY, I WANT TO MEET WITH YOU. IS THAT A DIRECTIVE? BASICALLY THAT IS. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO MY FINAL QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU GET SOCIAL JUSTICE WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT CHAIRS? BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS AND OTHERS DON'T SAY A WORD BACK TO US. AND THEN AND THEN EVERYTHING IS ESCALATED AND EVERYTHING BECOMES A THING BECAUSE I ASKED TO BE ANSWERED. I JUST HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. YEAH. COOL. THAT'S. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. GOOD STUFF. ALRIGHT. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL. SO DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING RIGHT NOW OR YOU TELL ME WHEN. YOU. OKAY, ALRIGHT, OKAY. THE CONVERSATION PRESENTATION BECAUSE OUR IN PERSON IS GOING TO BE ON 1230 RIGHT? OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT Y'ALL, LET'S KEEP ROCKING AND ROLLING THEN LET'S ROLL THIS VOTE. ALL RIGHT. 
          SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. YES. SUBSECTION Z, SECTION D. AND. WHAT IS THE 
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LINE HERE. SHALL NOT DISCUSS WHETHER THE SESSION PERFORMANCE OF OUR COMPLAINTS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICER WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL. I PRESUME THAT THIS. SO WHERE IS THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CITY? YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WHAT I'M SAYING. WHAT IS THE LINE DISCUSSION? BECAUSE WE HAVE BOTH SEATS. IN THE. SO AGAIN, I THINK FOR HIS EMAIL AND I'LL SAY SOMETHING THAT GOT BOUNCED OUT. INDIVIDUALS VERSUS THE COLLECTIVE ORGANIZATION. AND I BELIEVE THE ORGANIZATION FOR THAT. I THINK THAT THE. THE CONSTITUTION. SECTION. YEAH, I GET THAT. AND THAT COULD BE A CONFLICT OR IT COULD BE VERY WELL THAT THOSE RIGHTS, FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS ARE INFRINGED UPON, I BELIEVE, UPON, BASED ON THE BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT MAKES SENSE. SO I THIS IS LIKE, I REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GIVE YOU. SO YOU KNOW THAT. 
          BECAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY STATES. THE DISCUSSION SESSION. SO PUT A PIN IN THAT. OKAY. AND SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ IT OUT LOUD THEN, EXCEPT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING THAT WILL BE THAT ONE. RIGHT. SEE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT GIVE DIRECTIVES TO THE CITY OFFICE'S EMPLOYEES OTHER THAN CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK, BECAUSE THOSE ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE, EMPLOYEES. DIRECT REPORTS REGARDING ANY MATTERS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS AND COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE SERVICES, OPERATION OR ADMINISTRATION OF ANY DEPARTMENT FUNCTION OF CITY GOVERNMENT. ALTHOUGH THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT BE PROHIBITED FROM COMMUNICATING WITH CITY OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES WITH CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE COPIED ON ALL SUCH COMMUNICATIONS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO. THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UNLESS ACTING PURSUANT TO A DULY AUTHORIZED INVESTIGATION OR INQUIRY, SHALL NOT DISCUSS THE OPEN SESSION, THE PERFORMANCE OF, OR COMPLAINTS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE DURING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THIS PROVISION IS NOT INTENDED TO PREVENT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING IN GENERAL TERMS, THE PERFORMANCE OF ANY ISSUE RELATING TO ANY DEPARTMENT OR FUNCTION OF A CITY OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT, AND IT'S PROHIBITED FOR THE MAYOR AND ANY COUNCIL MEMBER TO SIT IN ON PERSONNEL AND MANAGEMENT MEETINGS BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY EMPLOYEES, UNLESS SUCH PARTICIPATION IS CONSENTED TO BY THE CITY MANAGER AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SO I IF YOU ALLOW ME TO GET BACK TO COUNCIL, ABSOLUTELY. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR LEGAL EAGLE. IT GIVES A PROHIBITION, RIGHT, THAT YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO OPEN. THE. OR COMPLAINT AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. RIGHT. UNLESS THERE HAS BEEN SOME INQUIRY, SUPER BROAD OR AN AUTHORIZED. INVESTIGATION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE YOU GUYS ALLUDED TO HAVING AN INVESTIGATION. THEN IT SAYS IT IS NOT INTENDED. SO JUST SOMETHING TO. NOW THAT YOU HAVE THIS CONDITION, IS MY DECISION TO LIMIT THE COUNCIL'S GENERAL TO THE PERFORMANCE OF, OF OR RELATING TO THE DEPARTMENT FUNCTION. I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCTION. WELL, I THINK THAT DISTINCTION IS VERY SLIM. I THINK THAT THAT WORD INQUIRY IN THE FIRST SENTENCE IS SUPER BROAD. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO ALSO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT. WE NEED THIS IN THE WAY, WHETHER A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, YOU SEE THAT AT THE END OF THE FIRST SENTENCE, IT'S ALSO CLEAR 
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IF YOU JUST WANT TO GET RIGHT TO THE RIGHT. SO I, I THINK WE PROBABLY CAN USE WRAP IT UP. 
          BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERPRET THE CITY ISSUE AS. BUT DO WE AUTHORIZE THE AUTHORIZE IS PUBLIC INQUIRY AND. AUTHORIZE OF OF THE WORD? I THINK THAT SO THAT'S. I DON'T THINK SO, BECAUSE THERE IS NO THERE IS NO. PROVISION IN THERE ABOUT INQUIRIES. THERE'S ONLY ONE ABOUT INVESTIGATIONS. WHAT IS THAT? I THINK HE IS NOT. WORRIED BECAUSE THAT THAT SEEMS SO BROAD. AND IT'S LIKE A NEWLY INTRODUCED POWER INQUIRY WHEREIN INVESTIGATION HAS SPECIFIC CODE SECTION THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH. NOW AS. YOU DON'T SEE IF DISTINCTION BETWEEN ANY CITY OFFICER OR CODE AND PERFORMANCE OF OPERATION RELATED TO THE DEPARTMENT FUNCTIONS, AS YOU SUGGESTED THAT THIS IS. I'M NOT SURE I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THIS. I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCTION. IF YOU DID. CRISS CROSS. SO ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT THAT ONE? YEAH. OKAY. SO SHE'S LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, RIGHT. OKAY. QUESTION ABOUT THESE. IF YOU WANTED TO SIT DOWN AND SAY PASSERINUS AND JUST LEARN ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, YOU WOULD GET APPROVAL FROM THE CITY MANAGER. THIS IS ALSO SAYING THAT WE NEED APPROVAL BY THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL. SO WE NEED TO BRING THAT BEFORE EVERYBODY. I THINK HERE THE CODE WORDS HERE COULD PERSONNEL. YEAH. IS IT IS IT COLD WORDS HERE. PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT. SO WHETHER IT'S ABOUT AGAIN THE LONDON SESSION THAT YOU GOT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS AND FOR ME THAT NEEDS NOT CLEAR PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT MIGHT JUST MEAN THE LIKE THE SUPERVISION DEPARTMENT RIGHT. TALKING ABOUT PERSONNEL MATTERS AND HOW THE DIRECTOR MANAGES VERSUS, OH, ARE YOU GUYS DOING SOCCER THIS WEEK? RIGHT. I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE A DISTINCTION. IF YOU GOT A QUESTION, THIS MAY BE ONE THAT THERE ISN'T A QUESTION AS WELL. IMPLIES IS NOT A MEETING THAT THE COUNCIL REQUESTED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER TO TALK WITH. TO ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LEADING THEM TO AS PART OF THE MEETING, I'M GOING TO. YEAH, CERTAINLY DO THAT SITTING ON THE CITY AND CITY EMPLOYEES UNLESS. IN EITHER CASE. AND THAT IS NEEDED THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE. IN PERSON. SO IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR THAT BOTH CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ASK FOR THAT APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. YOU GOING TO WANT TO ASK ONE OF. BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM FOR THE BUDGET WOULD BE CONSIDERED PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT. AT LEAST THAT MAKES IT. IN A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE VOTE ON EVERY TIME. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. SO, SO, SO BACK TO MY SITE. THIS IS A SECTION THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS BEEFING UP. SO TO BE CLEAR, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THIS QUESTION OR YOUR HAVE THESE QUESTIONS AND WRITE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO INCLUDE BECAUSE. SO THEY'RE SAYING A BUDGET TEAM IS THAT 
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MANAGEMENT OR AND OR PERSONNEL OR OKAY. SO AND SEE WE RIGHT. SO IS THAT ONE YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AND TRY TO SEEK. OKAY. SO SHE'S GOING TO SEEK CLARITY ON THAT ONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND. 
          ANYTHING THAT. I CAN UNDERSTAND, EVEN WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT. IF HE'S JUST THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING. THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, SHOULD ASK WHAT'S. WHAT I BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE GET WHEN WE START ACROSS LINES AND WE'RE NOT SO NOW, BUT IF IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION, WITH PARKS AND REC, I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY. SO. OKAY. DOES THIS APPLY? AND I THINK AGAIN, SHE'S GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE AND TRY TO CLARIFY THE ONES YOU GUYS TABBED FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE ARE NOW. ROLE DELINEATION. 
          THE MAYOR SHALL HAVE NO MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY OR RESPONSIBILITY IN RESPECT TO THE OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY AND THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, AS ELECTED OFFICIAL, SHALL POSSESS FUNDAMENTAL OVERSIGHT, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES WITH RESPECT TO ALL OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY. OKAY. A FUNDAMENTAL OVERSIGHT DUTIES AND THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE AND DULY BOUND TO FACILITATE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL'S OVERSIGHT FUNCTION. ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS PASSED THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS OF THE CITY, IT SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY MANAGER CITY MANAGER TO ADMINISTER SUCH BUDGETS AND KEEP THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FULLY INFORMED AS TO THE CITY'S PROGRESS AGAINST SUCH BUDGETS. THE CITY MANAGER SHALL PROVIDE MONTHLY FINANCIAL UPDATES ON THE BUDGETS WITH YEAR TO DATE INFORMATION, AND SUCH UPDATES SHALL CONTAIN ALL MATERIAL INFORMATION NECESSARY FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO EVALUATE THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE AND CONDITION OF THE CITY. HOWEVER, WHAT'S THE LEGAL COUNSEL? WHAT'S THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROPRIATED FUNDS IN THE BUDGET AND ENCUMBERED SUCH FUNDS THROUGH SUBSEQUENT LEGISLATIVE ACTION. THE CITY MANAGER SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ADMINISTER SUCH BUDGET, INCLUDING CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND ACCOUNT PAYABLES, AS PART OF THE MANAGEMENT FUNCTION. OKAY, SO THIS IS. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THOSE MONTHLY STATEMENTS RIGHT NOW HAVE BEEN IN THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. DOES THAT SATISFY THIS TERM THAT SAYS HE'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE US FUNDING, FINANCIAL UPDATES. IT SHOULD GO TO ALL ACCOUNTS. IT SHOULD GO TO ALL CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT MEANS OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE WERE JUST KIND OF SIDEBAR ABOUT IS THE UPDATES CONTAINING ALL MATERIAL INFORMATION NECESSARY FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO EVALUATE THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE AND CONDITION OF THE CITY. SO BEING VERY FRANK, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, GIVING THESE EMAIL UPDATES ABOUT CURRENT FINANCIAL STATUS. GREAT. BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS A MONTHLY RESPONSIBILITY. HOW DO WE INFORM WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE TO GET THAT INFORMATION MONTHLY? BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR ME, SOME OF THAT I FELT WAS HARD. SO WHAT DO WE DO TO GET MORE CONSISTENT MONTHLY FINANCIAL INFORMATION? ALSO FOR THE DISCUSSION, I THINK. THAT ALREADY INFORMATION. MUST COME DURING TO THE LAST MEETING OF THE COUNCIL'S MONTH. HOW CAN I GET TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING FOR OUTWARD FACING, WHICH I THINK THAT. CAN SUPPORT ANY PROBLEMS WITH INTERNAL BUDGETING. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CRAFTING, AND WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF YEARS TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL WILL BE PRESENTING TO US RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS THE BUDGET. YEAH, THAT PART ABOUT ALL INFORMATION FROM US THAT WHEN WE GO TO THE PORTAL IS NOT THERE. SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A TEMPLATE THAT YOU ALL COULD POTENTIALLY COMPLETE ON A TAXONOMY OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE. THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD COPY. FOR FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, HOW WE GET THAT LEDGER 
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THAT DESCRIBES THE REVENUES WE DISCUSSED IN BUDGET FINANCE THAT JUST THAT DOCUMENT AS A LAY PERSON, YOU COULD NOT DECIPHER ANYTHING. SO A VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE IS WE COLLECT TAXES AT CERTAIN POINTS IN THE YEAR. SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING A PERCEIVED DEFICIT IN A PARTICULAR FUND. AND SO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO THAT WHEN A MONTHLY REPORT IS GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC, IT HAS ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR THAT MONTH FOR YOU TO REALLY BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH THAT MATERIAL AND NOT GO IMMEDIATELY INTO THIS AREA OF, OH MY GOD, THE FINANCIAL FINANCIAL SITUATION IS BAD, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF FORMAT PRESENTED TO YOU ALL, AND YOU ALL APPROVE. THIS IS ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SATISFY EVALUATING THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE AND CONDITION OF THE CITY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD STUFF. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S OPERATIONS IN THE BOAT. THAT'S SHOULDER TO SHOULDER IN THE BOAT. OKAY. ROLE DELINEATION. 
          WHAT'S WHO'S DOING WHAT IN THE BOAT. ALRIGHT. NOW CHAPTER FIVE. ETHICS. ALRIGHT. FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY. ELECTED OFFICIALS AND APPOINTED OFFICERS OF THE CITY ARE TRUSTEES AND SERVANTS OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO SUCH CITIZENS AND SHALL ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES FOR THE BENEFIT OF SUCH CITIZENS. ALRIGHT. CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. NO ELECTED OFFICIAL, APPOINTED OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY, OR ANY BOARD, COMMISSION OR AUTHORITY TO WHICH THE CHARTER APPLIES TO, SHALL NOT ENGAGE IN ANY BUSINESS OR TRANSACTION OR HAVE A FINANCIAL OR OTHER PERSONAL INTEREST, DIRECT OR INDIRECT, WHICH IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPER DISCHARGE OF THAT PERSON'S OFFICIAL DUTIES, OR WHICH WOULD TEND TO IMPAIR THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE OFFICIAL'S JUDGMENT OR ACTION IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THOSE OFFICIAL DUTIES. NUMBER TWO, ENGAGE IN OR ACCEPT PRIVATE EMPLOYMENT OR RENDER SERVICES FOR PRIVATE INTERESTS. WHEN SUCH EMPLOYMENT OR SERVICE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPER DISCHARGE OF THE PERSON'S OFFICIAL DUTIES, OR WOULD TEND TO IMPAIR THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE OFFICIAL'S JUDGMENT OR ACTION AND THE PERFORMANCE OF THOSE OFFICIAL DUTIES. NUMBER THREE DISCLOSE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE INFORMATION OBTAINED AT MEETINGS WHICH ARE CLOSED FOR THIS. SECTION 14 CHAPTER 14 OF TITLE 50 OF THE OCGA OR SUCH OTHER APPLICABLE LAWS OR LAWS AS ARE OR MAY HEREINAFTER BE ENACTED CONCERNING THE PROPERTY, GOVERNMENT OR AFFAIRS OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY BY WHICH THE OFFICIALS ENGAGED WITHOUT PROPER LEGAL AUTHORIZATION OR USE OF SUCH INFORMATION TO ADVANCE THE FINANCIAL OR PRIVATE INTERESTS OF THE OFFICIALS OR OTHERS. ALRIGHT. ACCEPT OR ACCEPT ANY VALUABLE GIFT, WHETHER IN THE FORM OF SERVICE, LOAN, THING OR PROMISE FROM ANY PERSON, FIRM OR CORPORATION, WHICH TO THE OFFICIAL'S KNOWLEDGE IS ENTRUSTED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IN A MANNER WHATSOEVER IN BUSINESS DEALINGS WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY BY WHICH THE OFFICIAL IS ENGAGED. 
          PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO IS A CANDIDATE FOR PUBLIC OFFICE MAY ACCEPT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AND SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH ANY SUCH CAMPAIGN. FIVE REPRESENT OTHER PRIVATE INTERESTS IN ANY ACTION OR PROCEEDING AGAINST THE CITY OR ANY PORTION OF ITS GOVERNMENT, OR VOTE OR OTHERWISE PARTICIPATE IN NEGOTIATION IN THE MAKING OF ANY CONTRACT WITH ANY BUSINESS OR ENTITY IN WHICH THE OFFICIAL HAS A FINANCIAL INTEREST. 
          ALRIGHT, SO NOW YOU HAVE DISCLOSURE WHEN THIS HAPPENS. SO YOU'VE GOT TO DISCLOSE THESE THINGS BASICALLY. ALRIGHT, DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS, ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL, APPOINTED OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE WHO SHALL HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IN ANY CONTRACT OR ANY MATTER PENDING BEFORE OR WITHIN ANY DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY, SHALL DISCLOSE SUCH INTEREST TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR OR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAS A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN ANY MATTER PENDING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL DISCLOSE SUCH INTEREST AND SUCH DISCLOSURES SHALL BE ENTERED ON THE RECORDS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT OFFICIAL SHALL DISQUALIFY HIM OR HERSELF FROM PARTICIPATING IN ANY DECISION, VOTE RELATING THEREOF, ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL, APPOINTED OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OR OF ANY BOARD, COMMISSION OR AGENCY TO WHICH THIS CHAPTER APPLIES. WHO SHALL HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST, 
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DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, IN ANY CONTRACT OR ANY MATTER PENDING BEFORE OR WITHIN SUCH ENTITY SHALL DISCLOSE SUCH INTEREST TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF SUCH AGENCY OR ENTITY, AND REFRAIN FROM PARTICIPATION IN ANY DECISION OR VOTE RELATING THEREOF. AS TO THE TIME YOU SHARED. YES, YES AND. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST, NOT PERSONAL, POLITICAL FINANCIAL INTEREST. WHEN EXERCISING OFFICIAL POWERS. GOOD STUFF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          USE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY. NO ELECTED OFFICIAL, APPOINTED OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OR ANY AGENCY OF THE ENTITY ENTITY TO WHICH THIS CHAPTER APPLIES SHALL USE PROPERTY OWNED BY SUCH GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY FOR PERSONAL BENEFIT, CONVENIENCE OR PROFIT, EXCEPT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE POLICY PROMULGATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE GOVERNING BODY OF SUCH AGENCY OR ENTITY. YES, YES. I WAS APPROACHED BY THE RESIDENT WHO WAS CONCERNED THAT I USED COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR A BUDGET TOWN HALL ABOUT THE BUDGET OF THIS CITY, AND I IMPROPERLY USE THOSE COSTS. WHAT IS THE. HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THIS? SO I WOULD SAY THAT. I DID, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW THAT FOR THE ACCURACY. OKAY, BUT EVEN I DIDN'T GET THE COUNCIL VOTE. IF I AM MEETING RESIDENTS WHO ARE TRASH PICKUP AT SITES AND I USE CITY PURCHASED BAGS, I'M NOT DOING THAT FOR MY OWN. I THINK THAT QUALIFIES FOR USE. OKAY, I JUST NEED THAT TO BE. PASSED ON. 
          YES. GOOD STUFF. OKAY, THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NEXT ONE VOIDABLE CONTRACTS ANY VIOLATION OF THIS CHAPTER WHICH OCCURS WITH THE KNOWLEDGE EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED OF A PARTY TO A CONTRACT OR SALE SHALL RENDER SAID CONTRACT OR SALE VOIDABLE AT THE OPTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ELIGIBILITY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, EXCEPT WHEN AUTHORIZED BY LAW. NEITHER THE MAN NOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL HOLD ANY OTHER ELECTED OR COMPENSATED APPOINTED OFFICE IN THE CITY, OR OTHERWISE BE EMPLOYED BY CITY GOVERNMENT OR ANY AGENCY THEREOF DURING THE TERM FOR WHICH THAT OFFICIAL WAS ELECTED. NO FORMER MAYOR AND NO FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL HOLD ANY COMPENSATED FOR APPOINTED OFFICE IN THE CITY UNTIL ONE YEAR AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF THE TERM FOR WHICH FOR WHICH SUCH OFFICIAL WAS ELECTED. THAT'S THAT REVOLVING DOOR THING THAT'S THERE. ALRIGHT. RESTRICTIONS ON CERTAIN POLITICAL ACTIVITIES. 
          NO APPOINTED OFFICER OF THE CITY SHALL CONTINUE IN SUCH EMPLOYMENT UPON QUALIFYING AS A CANDIDATE FOR NOMINATION OR ANY PUBLIC OFFICE. NO EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY SHALL CONTINUE IN SUCH APPOINTMENT UPON ELECTION TO ANY PUBLIC OFFICE IN THIS CITY OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC OFFICE, WHICH IS INCONSISTENT, INCOMPATIBLE, INCOMPATIBLE OR IN CONFLICT WITH THE DUTIES OF THE CITY EMPLOYEE. SUCH DETERMINATION SHALL BE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL EITHER IMMEDIATELY UPON ELECTION OR AT ANY TIME SINCE CONFLICT MAY ARISE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BOARD OF ETHICS. YEAH. YOU GUYS DO HAVE A BOARD OF ETHICS. ALRIGHT. THERE'S THE BOARD OF ETHICS, CONSISTING OF NINE MEMBERS WHO SHALL BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, BE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS, SHALL NOT BE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT SHALL NOT BE ELECTED OFFICIALS, FULL TIME APPOINTED OFFICIALS OR CITY EMPLOYEES. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS SHALL NOT SERVE ON ANY OTHER CITY BOARD, COMMISSION OR AUTHORITY. NO PERSON SHALL SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS. IF THE PERSON HAS OR HAS HAD WITHIN THE PRECEDING ONE YEAR PERIOD, ANY INTEREST IN ANY CONTRACT, TRANSACTION OR OFFICIAL ACTION OF THE CITY. OKAY. SEE THE MAYOR AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL DESIGNATE ONE MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF REFERENCE. EACH MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS SHALL HAVE SHALL HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR, IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE DATE OF TAKING OFFICE, AND SHALL REMAIN THE RESIDENT OF THE CITY WHILE SERVING AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS SHALL BE APPOINTED FOR A TERM TO RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH THE APPOINTING OFFICIAL. OKAY. THE BOARD SHALL. THE BOARD SHALL SELECT ITS OWN PRESIDING 
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OFFICER FROM AMONG ITS MEMBERS. THAT'S THE ETHICS BOARD. ALL APPOINTMENTS TO THE. TO FILL THE VACANCY SHALL BE MADE IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT. E THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL PROVIDE BY ORDINANCE THE SPECIFIC POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL PROVIDE SUCH STAFF SUPPORT FOR THE BOARD OF ETHICS, AS IS DEEMED TO BE NECESSARY FOR THE BOARD TO FULFILL ITS DUTIES. MANY TIMES THAT IS LEGAL ASSISTANCE. OKAY, NOW THIS IS THE LAST ONE OF THIS PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION, LOOKED AT OUR MATERIALS. THE WAY THIS THING IS SET UP, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE COVERING OTHER SECTIONS. I WAS ASKED TO COVER THESE SECTIONS SPECIFICALLY. 
          OKAY. ADMINISTRATION. ALL RIGHT. WHO ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATING DEPARTMENTS, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THIS CHAPTER, THE CITY COUNCIL, BY ORDINANCE, HELP DESCRIBE THE FUNCTIONS OR DUTIES AND ESTABLISHING ALTERED, CONSOLIDATED OR LEAVE VACANT ALL NON-ELECTED OFFICES, POSITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES OF THE CITY AS NECESSARY FOR THE PROPER ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFAIRS AND GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY. THE EXERCISE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE POWERS SHALL NOT BE DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE INTERFERENCE WITH THE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY MANAGER, AND NO PROVISION CONTAINED IN SECTION 2401 OF THIS CHARTER IS INTENDED TO ABRIDGE OR LIMIT THE CITY COUNCIL'S POWER AS SET FORTH IN THIS CHARTER. ALRIGHT. EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY THIS CHAPTER, THIS CHARTER OR LAW, THE DIRECTORS OF DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER APPOINTED OFFICERS OF THE CITY SHALL BE APPOINTED SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF THEIR RESPECTIVE ADMINISTRATIVE AND PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS. ALL APPOINTED OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS SHALL RECEIVE SUCH COMPENSATION AS PRESCRIBED BY ORDINANCE. THERE SHALL BE A DIRECTOR OF EACH DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY WHO SHALL BE ITS PRINCIPAL OFFICER. EACH DIRECTOR SHALL SUBJECT TO THE DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION OF THE CITY MANAGER, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND DIRECTION OF THE AFFAIRS AND OPERATIONS THAT DIRECTOR'S DEPARTMENT OF AGENCY. ALL APPOINTING OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE NOMINATED BY THE CITY MANAGER WITH CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENT BY THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, YES I CAN. SO CITY ATTORNEY GOING BACK UP TO A. SO A SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL CAN ESTABLISH THE. POSITIONS WE CREATE DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES, AGENCIES. THAT'S OUR YES AUTHORITY. YES. OKAY. SO ONCE THE OFFICE IS CREATED, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HIRE. BUT CAN THE CITY MANAGER. CREATE A NOT CREATE BUT CAN ASSIST. WHERE DOES THE CITY MANAGER'S RIGHTS FALL? ONCE WE HAVE CREATED THE OFFICE FOR THE DEPARTMENT. WELL, HE STARTS HE STARTS IT. EXCEPT VERY BRIEFLY, I BELIEVE EXISTED AND I DON'T RECALL. SO THEY HAVE TO COME TO US FOR CONFIRMATION. SO IF WE DON'T CONFIRM HIS NOMINATION, THAT PERSON DOESN'T GET THAT POSITION. YES, THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS. WHICH IS WHY I SAID I DON'T THINK HE EVER DOES. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ME EITHER. FREAKING OUT ABOUT WHATEVER HE SAID. THE DEPARTMENT'S. SO APPOINTED OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS. SO DIRECTORS, WHO'S YOUR DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT? Y'ALL HAVE. WHAT ABOUT OFFICES? EXECUTIVE SESSION AND VOTED ON HIS. NO. HE HAS BROUGHT US HIS TOP CANDIDATES AND HIS. AND WE APPROVED IT. COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO FOR CONFIRMATION, SHOULD THERE BE ANY. WELL, BE SURE TO HAVE YOU KNOW, BUT I WILL SAY YOU SAID THAT AND I DON'T THINK I HAVE. 
          THAT. OTHER OFFICERS CONFIRM THIS OFFICER. I DON'T THINK AND AN OFFICER OF THE CITY. STAFF 
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DOES. WHEREAS IT DOES. SO THAT'S WHY I. HAVE SUCH A. STRICT ONE. DOES NOT APPOINT. 
          OFFICER IS NOT ANOTHER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, SHE'S LOOKING AT THAT. I'M GOING TO. FULLY ARTICULATE IT. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS IF IT IS THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY TO CREATE THESE OFFICES, DEPARTMENTS, ETC. WHERE WOULD WE SEE WHICH ONES THE COUNCIL HAS CREATED? AND THE BASIC PLAN AND BUDGET. OKAY, SO. SO IF. OKAY, SO YOU. 
          SO SHOULD WE DESIRE TO CREATE DEPARTMENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE WOULD DO IT VIA THE BUDGET AND WE WILL ALSO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR NOT A RESERVATION BECAUSE HOW DO WE GET IT TO CLASSIFICATION. WE WILL CREATE DEPARTMENT AND POSITION DESCRIPTIONS. YES. AND THAT ALL OF THAT WOULD BE APPROVED. SO THERE WILL BE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS RIGHT HERE BY THE OFFICE OF WHATEVER. RIGHT. AND IF THERE WERE ANY DEPARTMENT, LET'S SAY THERE IS. 
          POSITION. OKAY. RIGHT. AND YOU WOULD. GET THAT AS. YES. AND THAT WILL APPEAR IN YOUR. 
          WITNESS AND DEPARTMENT. OKAY. NOW. A SUBSEQUENT BUDGET AMENDMENT TO HAVE IT WITH REMAIN UNFUNDED, I KNOW THAT. AND SUBSEQUENT BUDGET. AMENDMENT TO NOW ADD THAT POSITION TO THE BUDGET. AND WE DON'T HAVE. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOMEDAY. STEP ONE CREATE THE DEPARTMENT OR POSITION. STEP TWO OR STEP ONE FOR ME WOULD BE THEN TO KIND OF DESCRIBE THE CONVERSATION FOR THAT POSITION, ETC. ETC. AND FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD NEED A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO A NEW FISCAL YEAR. THEN ONCE THAT PASSES ZERO, THE CITY MANAGER AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO SEE THIS DEPARTMENT IN THIS BUDGET. 
          YES. OKAY. THE JOB DESCRIPTION SAID, THAT'S PRETTY CREATE TWO LISTS THE PERSON ON. OKAY, SO THIS IS SO IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE? LIKE ALL APPOINTED OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS UNDER THE SUPERVISION SHALL BE COVERED BY THE CITY MANAGER. CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENT BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SO HE'S HIRING HIS APPOINTMENT, RIGHT? OKAY. TWO THINGS I DO NOT KNOW. I CANNOT THINK OF RIGHT NOW. OFFICER. CORRECT. AND. EMPLOYEES CITY COUNCIL THINGS RIGHT. A CITY MANAGER, IT TALKS ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER APPOINTMENT. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT COULD BE. SO THAT'S PERFECT. SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. BECAUSE HE'S NEVER APPOINTED ANYONE HE'S HIRED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLARIFIED IS THIS RULE IS ALIGNED TO HIRE EMPLOYEES VERSUS APPOINTED. AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT HIRING STUDENTS. FOR THE SAKE OF THIS CONVERSATION. YES. THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTS VERSUS. APPOINTED HIRE REALLY JUST DISTINGUISHES HOW THEY SHOW UP TO YOUR JOB COURSES. THEY'RE BEING DISTINGUISHED ON HOW THEY BECOME A PART OF THE CITY. 
          RIGHT? LIKE APPOINTED PERSON, RIGHT? THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY. GO AND GET YOUR APPROACH. 
          RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT HIRING CITY MANAGER. SO TO THE EXTENT HE IS DETERMINING HOW HE GOT HERE. 
          YES. RIGHT. TAKE APPOINTED AS BEING. THE. THE MECHANISM OF HOW WE GOT HERE. AND DOESN'T 
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FOLLOW LIKE HIM AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. RIGHT. THAT ALSO SAYS EMPLOYEES AT WILL. AND I KNOW THAT THE HIRING THAT DON'T FOLLOW THEM. RIGHT. SO THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING. IT'S THE SAME DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ARE APPOINTED. THEY'RE NOT. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE. SO WE JUST NEED TO KNOW OUR OFFICES. SO, OKAY, THAT'S. E. EVERY TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR OTHER EMPLOYEES. CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT THE CITY ATTORNEY TOGETHER WITH SUCH ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS AS MAY BE AUTHORIZED AND SHALL PROVIDE FOR THE PAYMENT OF SUCH ATTORNEY OR ATTORNEYS FOR SERVICES RENDERED TO THE CITY. 
          THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING FOR THE REPRESENTATION AND DEFENSE OF THE CITY AND ALL LITIGATION TO WHICH THE CITY IS A PARTY MAY BE. PROSECUTING OFFICER IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT SHALL ATTEND THE MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AS DIRECTED. SHALL ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND OTHER OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY CONCERNING LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE CITY'S AFFAIRS AND SHALL PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY VIRTUE OF THE PERSON'S POSITION AS CITY ATTORNEY. THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL COORDINATE THE HANDLING OF THE DAY TO DAY LEGAL AFFAIRS OF THE CITY WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT SHALL ULTIMATELY REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. ALRIGHT, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE OUR CITY CLERK HERE. THE CITY CLERK SHALL. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT A CITY CLERK WHO SHALL NOT BE A COUNCIL MEMBER. THE CITY CLERK SHALL BE CUSTODIAN OF THE OFFICIAL CITY SEAL, AND SHALL IMPRESS DOCUMENTS WITH SUCH SEAL. WHEN AUTHORIZED, SHALL MAINTAIN CITY COUNCIL RECORDS REQUIRED BY THIS CHARTER, AND SHALL PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES AS MAY BE REQUIRED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE AGENDA. THE CITY CLERK SHALL COORDINATE THE HANDLING OF DAY TO DAY AFFAIRS OF THE OFFICE WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT SHALL ULTIMATELY REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. ALRIGHT? YES. THE OFFICE CLERK. WITH THE CITY MANAGER. WHAT DOES THAT. I WOULD ASSUME THAT MEANT THAT WE SHOULD ALL. THERE WAS VERY LITTLE. TO THAT. 
          CERTAINLY THERE'S COORDINATION WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS. THE AGENDA OBVIOUSLY. FOR US. ALL. 
          ALL THOSE DETAILS. RIGHT. DON'T FORGET ABOUT THIS. THERE'S A LAW THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OR SOMETHING LIKE. WELL, IT COULD BE A. SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOCUMENTS, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE RECORDS WHEN SUBMITTING THOSE REQUESTS TO STAFF, IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES OR WHATEVER, I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM TO DO WITH A LOT OF THE DAY TO DAY STUFF. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ALL RIGHT, I'LL PUT THIS IN HERE TOO. IT GOT MENTIONED TODAY AND I KNEW IT WAS IN HERE. SO. ALRIGHT, PERSONNEL POLICY AND REGULATION. 
          OKAY. THE CITY MANAGER RUNS MOST OF THAT STUFF, BUT WATCH THIS. HERE'S YOUR ROLE IN THE 
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CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT RULES AND REGULATIONS CONSISTENT WITH THIS CHARTER CONCERNING THE METHOD OF EMPLOYEE SELECTION AND PROBATIONARY PERIODS OF EMPLOYMENT. THE ADMINISTRATION OF A POSITION, CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANNING, METHODS OF PROMOTION AND APPLICATION OF SERVICE RATINGS THERE THERETO, AND TRANSFER EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE CLASSIFICATION PLAN. HOURS OF WORK, VACATION, SICK LEAVE AND OTHER LEAVE OF ABSENCE, OVERTIME PAY AND THE OTHER EXCUSE ME AND THE ORDER AND MANNER TO WHICH LAYOUT SHALL BE. EXCUSE ME, CAN WE GO BACK? I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU ASKED. THE QUESTION ABOUT HOUSING AND CITY MANAGER ENGAGEMENT. YES. YEAH. THE LAST SENTENCE. WELL, I GUESS THAT WAS WHAT IS THE POLICY? BECAUSE THIS CAME UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE OPEN RECORDS. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE ESTABLISHED PRACTICE OF THIS AROUND LIKE CONSISTENT MEETING AND KIND OF KNOWING I, I WANT COLLABORATION AMONGST THE COMMUNITY. SO. IS THAT ALREADY STANDARD PRACTICE? CAN IT BE APPROVED IN THAT? I KNOW FOR MY OFFICE, I ONLY HAVE ONE ISSUE AS OPPOSED TO THERE MEETING EVERY MEETING OR SO, DOES THIS COUNCIL NEED TO OFFICIALLY SAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT AMONGST THE CITY ATTORNEY AND. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE. HERE. 
          IT IS. SHE JUST SAID THIS ISSUE. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ESCALATED OR WAS SOMETHING IS NOT HAPPENING. THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED, BUT THE ACTION. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THE ISSUE COMES UP. RIGHT. I THINK THAT IS ISSUE BASED. AND I WAS SAY I THINK THAT THINGS WERE BETTER ORGANIZED COORDINATION, SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, WE MAY NOT FIND OURSELVES IN LEGAL SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEFEND. WE MAY FIND OURSELVES WITH SUCH ISSUES OR. COORDINATED STANDING OR REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE MINDS ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO MITIGATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT COME UP FOR US AS A CITY. EXPONENTIAL PROCESS THAT WE HAVE. SO WHEN THERE IS AN ISSUE IS APPROXIMATELY THE COUNCIL AND ACTIONS WE NEED TO TAKE TO ENSURE THAT THAT ACTION ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE, BECAUSE THE MEETING IS COULD IT EVEN IN SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS, THE CONVERSATIONS CAN HAPPEN. JUST NO ACTION. THANKS. SO I THINK. IT DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN. IF I. SOMETHING HAPPENS OR IT'S NATURAL AND THEN IF SOMETHING DOES NOT HAPPEN. IT'S STILL. SOMETHING IMPORTANT. AND THERE IS A REGULAR. CHECK INS. THAT'S I DON'T KNOW IF ANY ORGANIZATION COMPETITION DOESN'T. DEFINITELY. I RECOMMEND THAT YOU. ALL HAVE EVERYTHING. ALL DECIDED THAT YOU JUST CANCEL THEM. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY ORGANIZATION. WE NEED TO ADJUST FOR THIS, RIGHT? YES, YES. SO I THREE. SO THIS ONE HERE, THIS IS HOURS OF WORK. WHEN I READ THAT BECAUSE IT SAYS A VERY TOP SECTION 4-105. THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT RULES AND REGULATIONS. I THINK THAT WHEN THE CITY WHEN THERE'S A DECISION TO CLOSE THE CITY OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL HOLIDAYS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, I THINK THAT WHEN I READ THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME COUNCIL DIRECTION INPUT ON THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE THIS ARBITRARY. 
          I'LL GIVE EXAMPLES, ESPECIALLY EVENTS THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE CITY. AND THEN THE NEXT THING I KNOW, THE CITY IS CLOSED. AND THE REASON THAT I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE THEN CITIZENS ARE CALLING AND I TRY TO GO TO CUSTOMER CARE TO PAY THIS BILL, OR I TRY TO GO TO THE CITY TO DO THIS, AND THE CITY IS CLOSED. SO I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT'S CLOSED. I. YEAH, ARE YOU 
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TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE ESTABLISHED LIKE CITY HALL IS OPEN FROM 8 A.M. TO 530. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE OFF ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF? YEP. I SEE. YEP. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. 
          I DEFINITELY SEE THAT. I AGREE WITH YOUR QUESTION AND CUSTOMER CARE. CUSTOMER CARE. WHAT ARE THEY LYING DOWN TO ABOUT, ETC. AND THAT KIND OF THING. YES, OF COURSE IT IS. THE. AND PEOPLE HAVE MADE PLANS TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AND THEY COME TO THE CITY. THE CITY HAS DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO SHUT DOWN EARLY TODAY BECAUSE THE HOLIDAY EVENT IS THIS EVENING. OKAY, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. FOR SUCH DISMISSAL HEARINGS AS DUE PROCESS MAY REQUIRE AN EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT PLAN AND ADJUSTMENTS TO THE RETIREMENT BENEFITS OF RETIRED PERSONS AND SUCH OTHER PERSONNEL POLICIES AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO PROVIDE FOR ADEQUATE AND SYSTEMATIC HANDLING OF PERSONNEL AFFAIRS. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY PROVISION OF THIS CHARTER, ALL EXISTING SENIORITY RIGHTS OF PRESENT OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF SAID CITY ARE PRESERVED AND CONTINUED. ALRIGHT. DOES THAT MEAN THEY'VE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN? YEAH, OKAY. THE TRADITIONAL THAT SAYS THAT BASICALLY COUNCIL. ANY POSITION, ETC. ETC. I THINK THAT'S BEEN COUNCIL DECIDES THAT WE WANT A POSITION AS AN OFFICIAL OFFICE, SPECIFICALLY IN LIAISON TO COUNCIL. WE CAN JUST CREATE THAT POSITION. FOISTED UPON CITY MANAGER. AND HE HIRES. IF. 
          YOU WANT TO CREATE A POSITION THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO CITY COUNCIL. NO, NO, NO POSITION IN THIS OFFICE OR YEAH, PERFORMING A SPECIFIC FUNCTION. YEAH. WE CREATED AN EVEN IF HE HAS NOT SIGNED ON TO THAT, WE CREATED AN OBLIGATION TO THE SET POLICY AND HE HAS TO CARRY OUT POLICIES. SO YES. SO WE CAN DO THAT WITH BUDGET ANALYSIS. COUNCIL MEETING, ANYTHING. AND CERTAINLY THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH TO ENSURE THAT THEY ASK TO TAKE A POSITION ON THAT. EVEN IF WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE TO DO SO, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE. YES. I'M GOOD. OKAY, I'LL GET IT. OKAY, FOLKS. WELL. DIVISIONS VERSUS DEPARTMENTS THAT. MY TIME IS UP. 
          THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS POINT HERE WHEN IT SETS UP THE CITY, THEY HAVE THERE ARE 48 POWERS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ANIMAL CONTROL AND ALL THAT STUFF. WHAT I WILL SAY TO YOU IS THIS IN MY CLOSING STATEMENT, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. YOU ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THIS. REMEMBER THIS ABOUT THE TEAM. THEN I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN. BUT I THINK THIS IS THE PART I KIND OF WANT TO GET TO, TO KEEP SOMETHING TO CORRECTIVE ACTION. I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I TALKED TO EACH ONE OF Y'ALL AND HERE'S MY $0.02 ON IT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, ALL TEAMS GO PROGRESS THROUGH THE STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH CAUSED THINGS TO CHANGE. THINK ABOUT ANY RELATIONSHIP YOU'RE IN, ANY FAMILY YOU'RE IN, ANY COUSINS, WHOEVER, GRANDMA, THE RELATIONSHIPS CHANGE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY STAY THE SAME. THEY CHANGE DIFFERENT. YOU'RE YOUR TEAM RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. THERE'S AN UPTIME. IT'S BAD TIMES AND TIMES WE'RE SHOWING EACH OTHER. 
          IT'S ANY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE EACH OTHER $1 MILLION. THAT'S PART OF WHAT TEAMS FAIL ON IS WHAT THEY DO ON STAGE. THEY GET INTO TRIBAL WARFARE AND SO ON. SO MY ENEMY IS MY 
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ENEMY AND NEVER COME OUT. SO WE, I KNOW WE GOT SOME TEAM DYNAMICS CHANGE THE RELATIONSHIPS AMONG TEAM MEMBERS SHIFT AND EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP BEHAVIORS NEED TO BE MODIFIED. SO I'M NOT I'M GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT. SO THE FORMING STAGE, WHICH YOU ALL PROBABLY STILL HAVE SOME FORMING GOING ON ORIENTATION, BREAK THE ICE, BECOMING ACQUAINTED WITH MEMBERS. Y'ALL HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS, RIGHT? PURPOSE AND BOUNDARIES. 
          RELATIONSHIPS MUST BE FORMED AND TRUST ESTABLISHED. TRUST MUST BE ESTABLISHED. 
          RELATIONSHIPS MUST BE FORMED. DIRECTION FROM TEAM LEADERS. WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO, AND I THINK Y'ALL DOING THIS FACILITATE SOCIAL INTERCHANGES. WHY? BECAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE AROUND EACH OTHER, THE MORE THEY GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER. THEY START FEELING COMFORTABLE. 
          THEN THEY START TRUSTING EACH OTHER. THE TEAM WILL NEVER. YOU'RE ON THE TITANIC. AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A BAD WAY. IT'S A TRAGEDY. IF YOUR TEAM DOESN'T HAVE TRUST, YOU'RE GOING TO HIT THE ICEBERG. IT'S GOING TO SINK. THAT'S WHY YOU WANT THESE FOLKS TO BE INTERACTING ALL THE TIME. NOW WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN HERE. NOW SOME FOLKS HAVE A WAY WE NEED TO DO IT LIKE THIS. WE NEED TO DO IT LIKE THIS. I THINK WHEN YOU DO IT LIKE THIS, I THINK THIS I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THAT. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT SOMETIMES THAT CAUSED ANGST FROM OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. SO IN THE STATE, IN THE FORMING, IN THE STORMING STAGE, OKAY, TEAM IS FACED WITH THE DIFFERENCES, ULTRA INTERDEPENDENCE AND THE NEED TO MANAGE CONFLICT AND DISPUTE. THIS IS NATURAL. I DO THESE ALL AROUND THE STATE. ALL TEAMS, ALL TEAMS HAVE STORMS AND THEY DO IT ACROSS. IT HAPPENS. BUT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN? STEP BACK. IF THIS IS HAPPENING ON YOUR TEAM, I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT PART OF YOUR TEAM. STEP BACK AND JUDGE IT THIS WAY, OKAY? FOCUS ON PROCESS IMPROVEMENT. NOT THE PERSON IS WHAT THIS PERSON IS SAYING. IT DOESN'T HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM. 
          WILL IT MAKE THE PROCESS BETTER? YOU GOTTA GET OUTSIDE YOURSELF. IT TAKES SOMEBODY. YOU GOTTA GET BIG AND STEP BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO HELP, OKAY? AND YOU GOT TO FOSTER WIN WIN RELATIONSHIPS IN WARS OR TRIBAL WARFARE IS BECOMES WIN. I LISTEN, I DON'T LIKE SO AND SO SO IT BECOMES A COMPETITION. GUESS WHO LOSES THE CITIZEN. SO WIN WIN SOMETIMES LET OTHER PEOPLE WIN. THERE'S TENSION AND DISAGREEMENT. BUT HERE'S WHAT I REALLY WANT TO POINT YOU ATTENTION TO THE LEADER. Y'ALL ARE ALL LEADERS. ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN CONNECTION. IT MAY SOUND COUNTERINTUITIVE WHEN YOU WANT TO KILL SOMEBODY. IF YOU HAVE TO KEEP ONE IN THE ROOM WITH YOU. BUT GUESS WHAT? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEN THE FOLKS WILL GET YOU GET PAST THAT STAGE. IF YOU LET PEOPLE START OFF AND HAVE THEIR OWN TRIBES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU WILL NEVER REACH THE STORM. LISTEN, IF YOU LET PEOPLE FRACTURE OFF AND CHECK OUT, YOU WILL NEVER FIX THE STORM. YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE CHAOS. YOU WILL ALWAYS PEOPLE WILL START COMING TO Y'ALL'S MEETINGS, EATING POPCORN IF YOU ALLOW THIS TYPE OF STUFF TO GO ON BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE SOME DRAMA. YOU'VE GOTTA STAY IN THERE, STAY IN THE BOAT. SINCE WE STARTED WITH THAT, STAY IN THE BOAT, STAY IN THE BOAT, NO MATTER HOW HARD IT GETS. STAY IN THE BOAT AND YOU'LL EVENTUALLY WORK THROUGH IT. BECAUSE IF YOU LET PEOPLE CHECK OUT, I GUARANTEE YOU YOU WILL NOT. YOU WILL NEVER GET PAST THIS PHASE UNLESS THOSE PEOPLE LEAVE. AND NOW YOU'RE BACK TO THE FORMING STAGE. AFTER YOU GET PAST THIS, THINGS NORMALIZE. 
          OH SO AND SO IS LIKE THIS. OH, HERE'S HOW SO AND SO ACTS. OH, HERE'S HOW I AM. HERE'S WHAT SO-AND-SO DOES. AND WE ACCEPT THAT THAT MEANS THE NORMAL, I NORMALLY SAY. AND ONCE YOU GET PAST THE NORMAL STAGE, HE STARTED FOCUSING ON THIS PERFORMANCE, NEED FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, INNOVATION AND CREATIVITY. EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO BETTER BECAUSE ALL THAT STUFF'S OUT THE WAY. SUPPORT TEAM MEMBERS IDEAS, SUPPORT TEAM MEMBERS IDEAS, FOSTER EXTRAORDINARY PERFORMANCE, COOPERATION AND PROBLEM SOLVING. OKAY, THAT'S THE LAST TWO SETS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO GET TO, BUT I KNOW MY TIME IS UP. BUT PLEASE, I WILL SEND THESE SLIDES. I'LL EDIT OUT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S IT'S TINY. YOU CAN'T READ ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS. I WAS READING UP ON THE SCREEN. I'LL SEND ANOTHER EDITED VERSION TO THE GOOD PEOPLE OVER HERE AND I'LL HAVE THIS STUFF IN HERE. OKAY. 
          BUT I IMPLORE YOU, PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOUR TEAM IS AND USE THE TECHNIQUES TO GET YOURSELF OUT OF THOSE DIFFERENT PHASES. YOU'VE GOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF BECAUSE IF NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET STUCK ON THESE PHASES. IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO YIELD BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS OTHER ESTEEMED SPEAKER UP. I'VE TAKEN UP ENOUGH TIME. 
          THERE'S A EVALUATION FORM GOING ON, IF YOU'LL PLEASE FILL THAT OUT. I HOPE YOU ALL DON'T MIND ME BUMMING SOME FOOD, BECAUSE I'M GONNA GO BACK THERE AND EAT BEFORE I LEAVE. AND. YES, MA'AM, IF YOU WANT THEM TO FILL THAT OUT. YEAH. WHEN WAS THE REGISTRATION FORM? YES. FILL THAT ONE OUT. AND THE OTHER ONE IS A, IT SAYS RETREAT ON. BUT I KNOW THIS IS ON BOARD. WE KNOW THAT ATHENS AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT ME. IT'S LIKE A EVALUATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOLKS. MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO AS WE TRANSITION FROM MR. ROBINSON TO MISS DAVIS, A QUICK INTRO ON THE. BUT I HAD A QUESTION FIRST. HOW MANY OF YOU SAY. THAT? SO YEAH. I THINK. TO EMAIL 
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SOMEBODY I'VE NEVER HEARD. BUT YOU GET MY POINT. SO I DON'T WANT YOU ALL BUTCHERING THIS. 
          AND TALKING ABOUT ORDER. PROCEDURES. I LOCK IT UP WITH THE EMAIL. OKAY. NOW, DAVIS. IF A HIGHLY EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONAL. AND IN CASE SHE'S RECOGNIZED HER. AS A DISTRICT AND NATIONAL LEVELS, SHE HOLDS THE DESIGNATION AS A PROFESSIONAL REGISTERED PARLIAMENTARIAN, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST QUALIFICATION AWARDED BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF. 
          VOLUNTEERS. SHE SERVES AS THE PROFESSIONAL PRESIDING ADVISOR AND PROCEDURAL EXPERT. SHE ASSISTS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OURS AND OTHER STATE, LOCAL, CIVIC, AND EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS ON GOVERNANCE, BYLAWS AND MEETING MANAGEMENT. SHE'S HELD A NUMBER OF LEADERSHIP ROLES AMONGST THE GEORGIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF PARLIAMENTARIANS, AND SHE'S BEEN HERE BEFORE. 
          SHE'S IN A TRAINING FOR YOUR BOARDS. I HAD HER COMING IN FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND A FEW OTHERS IN PERSON. REPRESENTATIVES FOR SUPPORT CAME IN AND HER ABOUT MEETING FACILITATION AND PARLIAMENTARIAN TRAINING FOR PUBLIC BODIES AND THEIR COMMITTEES, I WOULD SAY THE PERSON THAT I MET HER, BUT SHE DID TRAINING FOR MY JOB AND SHE. ASKED AND I WAS LIKE, I REMEMBER HER. AND I WAS LIKE, HEY, JUST. AND I, EVERY TIME I CALLED TO ASK HER TO PROVIDE EXPERIENCE OR ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER MANAGEMENT. SHE JUST SHOWS UP AS ALWAYS AND VERY GRATEFUL TO KNOW. SUCH A SPEEDY PROFESSIONAL. AND I THINK YOU DID SO AMAZING INSIGHT FOR EFFECTIVE MEETINGS FROM MISS CAROL. ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THEM ALL. SO PRESENTATION ON THE ORDER. 
          JUST TRYING TO LOG INTO MY EMAIL. I ASKED HIM, DID I NEED TO BRING IT? HE SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR IT BECAUSE I'M LIKE THE LAST PERSON. SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD BECAUSE I'M LIKE, THAT'S NOT. OKAY. I SAID, OKAY, THANK YOU. SO WHILE THEY'RE GETTING SEATED AND SET UP FOR ME, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOUR CITY ATTORNEY ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. I WAS A LAWYER A LONG, LONG TIME AGO. AND AS A LAWYER, PEOPLE ASSUME THAT WE KNOW PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. 
          IT'S NOT ANYTHING THEY TEACH IN LAW SCHOOL. AND I WAS ASKED TO SERVE AS PARLIAMENTARIAN FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. AND I SAID, AND I FAKED IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE. AND THEN I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, CAROL, YOU REALLY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, BUCKLE DOWN AND LEARN ALL OF THOSE RULES. SO THERE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT CERTIFY PARLIAMENTARIANS IN THE UNITED STATES. ONE IS THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF PARLIAMENTARIANS, AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE 
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NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PARLIAMENTARIANS. AND I HAVE CERTIFICATION ON BOTH OF THOSE. 
          SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. SO IF YOU ALL HAVE THE PRESENTATION, THAT'S FINE. WE CAN GO ON AND GET STARTED BECAUSE THIS IS SATURDAY AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE LOTS OF THINGS TO DO. BUT LET ME JUST START OFF BY TALKING ABOUT WHY WE HAVE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. 
          THERE'S SOME BASIC PRINCIPLES. AND IF WE UNDERSTAND THOSE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF PARLIAMENTARY LAW, WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE RULES AND THIS IS ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, WHICH HOW THEY HAVE COME TO BE DEVELOPED. ONE OF THE MAJOR PRINCIPLES IS THAT THE MAJORITY RULES. AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT THE MINORITY HAS RIGHTS. SO YOU'RE IN A MEETING, YOU TAKE A VOTE, YOU HAVE DEBATE, THEN YOU TAKE A VOTE. THE MINORITY HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO SPEAK AS THE MAJORITY, AND THEIR RIGHTS ARE TO BE ALWAYS PROTECTED. AND THEY'RE ALWAYS HEARD. THEY MAY LOSE TODAY, BUT YOU CAN COME TO ANOTHER DAY FOR YOUR PARTICULAR ISSUE. WE WANT TO HAVE FULL AND FREE DISCUSSION IN OUR MEETINGS, BUT WE WANT TO OBSERVE THE RIGHTS OF ALL INDIVIDUALS. WE WANT TO BE JUST AND COURTEOUS. PARLIAMENTARY LAW SAYS THAT WE ONLY DISCUSS ONE ISSUE AT A TIME, AND WE CAN ONLY SPEAK ONE AT A TIME. EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT FOR INFORMATION AND TRANSPARENCY. NOW THERE'S A HIERARCHY OF RULES THAT GOVERN PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE LAW IS AT THE TOP. AND THEN FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION, THE CITY CHARTER COMES NEXT. THEN YOU HAVE SPECIAL RULES OF ORDER, WHICH ARE YOUR COUNCIL RULES. AND THEN YOU HAVE ROBERT'S AND YOUR COUNCIL RULES SAY THAT ROBERT'S WILL KICK IN WHERE YOUR COUNCIL RULES DON'T COVER AN ISSUE. 
          OKAY, SO IT'S IMPORTANT SORT OF TO KNOW BOTH DOCUMENTS, BOTH ROBERT'S AND YOUR COUNCIL RULES. 
          SO YOU'LL KNOW WHEN ROBERT'S KICKS IN. THIS IS THE 12TH EDITION OF ROBERT'S. SO IF YOU HAVE THE 11TH, YOU'RE ONE EDITION BEHIND. IF YOU HAVE THE 10TH, YOU'RE A COUPLE EDITIONS BEHIND. SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR 12TH EDITION. THAT IS THE CURRENT EDITION OF ROBERT'S. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT QUORUM. AND LET ME JUST EXPLAIN ONE THING ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. I WAS GIVEN A COPY OF YOUR COUNCIL RULES, AND THEY'RE IN AN INTERESTING FORMAT. AND. I DON'T KNOW, HIERARCHY OF RULES. AND ROBERT'S SETS OUT RULES A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF YOUR FIRST COUNCIL RULES IS SUSPENSION OF THE RULES. IT'S NUMBER TWO, IN FACT. BUT WE CAN'T SUSPEND RULES UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE. CORRECT. AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT ABOUT COUNCIL RULES, IT'S GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT THAN THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE MEETINGS HAVE STRUCTURE AND ORDER TO THEM. AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU CAN'T ADJOURN THE MEETING AND LEARN ABOUT ADJOURNMENT BEFORE YOU LEARN HOW TO MAKE A MOTION. AND SO MY PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE STRUCTURED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN YOUR RULES. I REFER BACK TO YOUR RULES, THOUGH, IN THE SLIDES THAT YOU HAVE WHEN THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN ROBERT'S. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO I JUST RECENTLY HAD CATARACT SURGERY AND I DON'T KNOW TO PUT ON MY GLASSES AND WHEN NOT TO HAVE ON MY GLASSES. SO I HOPE THAT'S NOT DISTRACTING TO ANYBODY. BUT AS RELATES TO A QUORUM, ROBERT SAYS IT'S THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO BE PRESENT FOR YOU TO CONDUCT YOUR MEETING. 
          IN THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM, IT'S THE MAJORITY OF YOUR MEMBERSHIP. AND IF YOU DON'T 
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HAVE A QUORUM, ROBERT SAYS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN. THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO AT A MEETING IS TO RECESS, SO THAT YOU CAN GO CALL FOLK TO GET THEM AT THE MEETING, FIX THE TIME TO WHICH TO ADJOURN, OR JUST ADJOURN THE MEETING. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CONDUCT ANY BUSINESS WHERE THERE IS NOT A QUORUM PRESENT. IT'S NOT FORUM. IT'S NOT. YEP. WE HAVE COMMITTEES. THE COMMITTEES ALSO HAVE TO HAVE FOR. YES, THEY DO, AND IT'S USUALLY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE COMMITTEES. AND. SO A COMMITTEE COULD LISTEN TO A PRESENTATION BY THE CITY MANAGER IN. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. THE. FOR PURPOSES OF. I THINK IT'S FOR PURPOSES OF CONDUCTING BUSINESS. IF YOU'RE JUST GETTING INFORMATION, CERTAINLY YOU CAN RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION. WE CAN'T. WE CAN RECEIVE INFORMATION. OKAY. SO FOR YOU, ALL THE QUORUM IS FOUND IN YOUR CITY RULES SIX AND 15. AND. WHAT DO WE HAVE THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE. IT SHOULD BE SLIDE 13. IF THEY PRINTED IT OUT THAT WAY, I'M NOT SURE. WHAT TIME IT WAS. THE CALM AND ORDER OF BUSINESS. IT SHOULD BE SLOT 13. SO THE QUORUM AND THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AS IT RELATES TO THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS THAT IT EQUALS THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL PRESENT THE MAYOR OR SIX MEMBERS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM AT THE TIME THE MEETING BEGINS, YOUR RULES SAY THAT YOU CAN WAIT ONLY 30 MINUTES. AFTER THAT, I GUESS YOU ALL CAN DISPERSE AND WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. ONCE THE QUORUM IS ESTABLISHED, IT CONTINUES. YES. WE CAN ONLY. GIVE YOU UPDATES. YES, IT SAYS NO MEMBER SHALL BE COMPELLED TO REMAIN MORE THAN 30 MINUTES. THAT'S COUNCIL RULE SIX. CANCEL THE MEETING. FIVE MINUTES OF TIME FOR THAT. THAT'S APPROPRIATE. SOUNDS COMFORTABLE ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK IT SPEAKS TO THAT. QUITE FRANKLY. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU ALL WOULD WAIT AROUND FOR 30 MINUTES, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SPEAKS TO THAT, THAT YOU CAN LEAVE RIGHT AWAY. IT SAYS DON'T EVER FAIL TO SEE BEYOND. RIGHT. SO I THINK SHE'S RIGHT. BUT ANYTHING LIKE IF YOU NEED BEFORE 30 MINUTES, OKAY, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY BEYOND 30. RIGHT. BUT IF YOU NEED TO THE COUNCIL. AT 637. WILL FOLLOW. I THINK THAT'S OKAY. 
          NOT ONLY DO I THINK IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THE RULES DON'T SAY YOU HAVE TO STAY AT LEAST 30 MINUTES. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS. I ALSO THINK IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THOSE. I THINK THEY YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S COMING, RIGHT? LIKE EVEN THOSE THAT MAYBE, MAYBE SOMEONE'S SICK, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS. SAY. BUT I THINK IT'S FINE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO STAY AT LEAST 30. YOU JUST ARE NOT REQUIRED TO STAY. YEAH. YES. I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T SEE THAT IN ANY OF THE RULES. BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME OBLIGATIONS THAT ARE DUE TO THE CITIZENS OF EAST POINT. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE ON TIME. BUT IF YOU KNEW THAT COUNCIL MEETING, YOU KNOW, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING THAT LASTS MORE THAN 30 
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MINUTES, DO YOU NOT? SO YOU WOULD HAVE YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU WOULD HAVE YOU WOULD HAVE BLOCKED THAT TIME OUT. ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY TAKES PLACE AND 2 MINUTES OR 3 MINUTES, I DON'T THINK IT'S A IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO ASK IF YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT YOU STAY FOR 30 MINUTES. I JUST DON'T I BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE MEETING SHOULD JUST WILLY NILLY BE. DISMISSED IN FIVE MINUTES IF THERE'S NO QUORUM, BECAUSE ROBERTS DOES IN FACT SAY THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM, TAKE A RECESS, CALL PEOPLE, GET THEM TO THE MEETING. SO I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER BEFORE JUST DISMISSING AND SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET BECAUSE WE HAVE DON'T HAVE QUORUM AND IT'S. 637. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. AND MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THE RULES OR QUESTIONS WITH THE RULES FOR INTERPRETATION PURPOSES. AND MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT COME UP. OH. ON, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT DOESN'T SHOW THE. YEAH. PASS. THAT PASS, PASS. OH NO. I'M JUST ABOUT TO. YEAH. I'M JUST. 
          OKAY. AND PASS THAT PASS. OKAY. THIS IS WHERE I AM. YEAH. OKAY. THIS GOES DOWN. HERE WE GO. NO, IT'S THE I NEED TO MAKE SURE I REMEMBER THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONCE YOU HAVE THE QUORUM AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE. AN AGENDA. THE AGENDA CAN BE AMENDED DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING BY A TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THE COUNCIL. AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE REQUIRED PAPERWORK IN THAT TYPE OF THING THAT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO. YOUR MEETING. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN FIND THIS ON RULE SIX AND 15 OF THE DOCUMENT. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE A PRESIDING OFFICER, WHICH IS YOUR MAYOR, AND THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER ARE FOUND IN ROBERT'S SECTION 47, PARAGRAPHS FIVE THROUGH 20. AND THEY ARE BASIC. I THINK YOU'RE FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THIS. YOU CALL THE MEETING ON TIME, HAVING DETERMINED THAT THE QUORUM IS PRESENT, YOU ANNOUNCE THE SEQUENCE OF BUSINESS. YOU RECOGNIZE MEMBERS WHO ARE ENTITLED TO TAKE THE FLOOR TO SPEAK. YOU STATE AND PUT ALL MOTIONS UP TO THE ASSEMBLY, AND YOU PROTECT THE ASSEMBLY FROM FOOLISHNESS THAT HAPPENS. AND DILATORY MOTIONS THAT THAT MIGHT COME UP DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING. IT IS THAT PRESIDING OFFICER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT. YOU REINFORCE THE RULES OF DECORUM. YOU EXPEDITE THE BUSINESS, YOU RESPOND TO INQUIRIES AND DECLARE THE MEETING ADJOURNED. AT SOME POINT, WHEN ALL THE BUSINESS IS FINISHED OR WHEN SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION, AS LONG AS THE MOTION IS IN ORDER. ALRIGHT. YOUR PRESIDING OFFICER, ACCORDING TO ROBERTS, SERVES ON ALL COMMITTEES EXCEPT NOMINATING IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY. IT APPOINTS THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS, APPOINTS SPECIAL COMMITTEES. IN THE ABSENCE OF THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT TAKES PLACE. AND OF COURSE, THESE. THIS IS HOW ROBERTS TALKS ABOUT IT. YES, MA'AM. IT'S HARD TO HEAR YOU. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THE SECOND ONE IS EX-OFFICIO, MEANING IT JUST MEANS BY VIRTUE OF OFFICE, BY YOU SERVED BY VIRTUE OF THAT OFFICE. SAY, FOR INSTANCE. YOU HAVE A BOARD THAT. THE GOVERNOR MIGHT SIT ON THAT BOARD, NOT A MEMBER OF YOUR ASSEMBLY, BUT HE WOULD BE EX OFFICIO JUST BECAUSE HE'S THE GOVERNOR. HE GETS TO SIT ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. OKAY, SO YOUR PRESIDENT OR YOUR MAYOR, I 
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DON'T THINK THIS IS THE CASE WITH COUNCIL. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROBERTS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER CAN, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND OUT OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THEY ARE SOMETIMES COUNTED IN THE QUORUM, SOMETIMES NOT. AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE VOTING PRIVILEGES, SOMETIMES NOT. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR RULES ARE. BUT THEY NEVER PARTICIPATE IN A NOMINATING COMMITTEE. AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS ABOUT THAT. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE TALK ABOUT ROBERTS AND THEN WE MOVE INTO COUNCIL RULES, IT'S BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR RULES ARE IN YOUR COMMITTEES. DO COMMITTEES HAVE THEIR OWN STANDING RULES? ROBERTS. WOULD THEY NOT AT EVERY MEETING? SO SOME OF THIS IS WHY THIS IS PRESENTED THIS WAY, SO THAT YOU ALL WILL KNOW WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR MEETINGS WHAT THE WHAT ROBERTS SAYS WHEN YOU'RE IN COUNCIL, THEN YOU DEAL WITH THE COUNCIL RULES. ALL RIGHT. RULE NUMBER THREE FOR YOU ALL. FORGET THE. OKAY, THAT WAS MADAM CITY CLERK. IT SAYS ON THE 1506 1515 THAT ALL REQUIRED TO REPORT SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. EXTRA TIME WAS NEEDED. TWO QUESTIONS. WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? SECOND QUESTION, IS THERE A POLICY THAT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED TO ENFORCE YOUR TIMELINES? AS FAR AS YOU SAID, THE WORK SESSION POLICY IS ACTUALLY THE ACTUAL PROCESS IS OKAY. BUT WHAT ABOUT COUNCIL MEETINGS TIMELINES? IS THE SAME AS USUAL SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STAFF MEETING. ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO. OKAY. SO DOES THIS. DOES THIS WORK? CAN YOU HEAR ME WITH THIS MIC? OH, YOU HAVE MICROPHONE. THAT'S NICE. IT'S NOT OKAY. OH, THAT AIN'T IT. SO. 
          THAT'S OKAY. I'LL TRY TO SPEAK LOUDER. IT'S A LOT OF WIRES DOWN HERE. OKAY. WE GOT IT. I. 
          WE JUST CHECKED THAT. DID YOU TURN THIS ON. YEAH, I TURNED IT. HELLO, NICK. YOU SAID IT WENT TO THE CAMERA. IT WENT TO THE CAMERA. I CAN USE THIS. IS THIS BETTER? IT IS. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T HEAR THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT WHEN THE PAPERWORK IS DUE TO BE RETURNED IN. IT MIGHT BE GOOD THAT IT BE OUTLINED IN THE RULE. OKAY, SO THIS RULE TEAM REFERS TO THE TIMELINE. IT IS NOT PRESCRIBED TIMELINE AS DEFINED, HAVE A SEPARATE POLICY THAT DESCRIBES THE TIMELINE. BUT IT ALSO APPLIES TO WORK. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE REGULAR MEETINGS, HOWEVER, THE ONLY THING ON THE REGULAR WORK. ON APRIL 16TH. 
          FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR. MATTERS. SO WHAT DO YOU. 
          CONSIDER. SO IT'S ALL. SET. FOR THE CONFERENCE. AND I. 
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HAVE. 
          OKAY. ALRIGHT, YOUR MAYOR IS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, BUT THERE ARE NO VOTING RIGHTS ACCORDING TO THE RULE EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF A TIE. BUT THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO VETO AND THE MAYOR MAY PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION. AFTER ALL, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT LEAST TWICE. THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM ROBERT'S. 
          THE PRESIDING OFFICER DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION, BUT HERE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE. 
          IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. AND WHEN IT TAKES PLACE. ALL RIGHT. YOU ALL. ALSO, ACCORDING TO RULE THREE, ELECT A MAYOR PRO TEM. AND THAT MAYOR PRO TEM SERVES IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR PRO TEM, ACCORDING TO THE RULE, IS ELECTED IN JANUARY. AND SO THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAS IT'S IT'S A MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNCIL AS IT'S REFLECTED AS TO THE ELECTION. AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM BASICALLY DOES THE SAME THING THAT THE MAYOR DOES, EXCEPT THERE'S NO APPOINTMENT AUTHORITY IN THE MAYOR PRO TEM IF THE MAYOR PRO TEM. IS ALSO ABSENT, YOU HAVE A PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM THAT'S ALSO ELECTED IN JANUARY, AND THEY PRESIDE IN THE ABSENCE OF THOSE TWO. ALL RIGHT. IN CASES OF WHERE THERE'S A VOTE TO BE TAKEN, ROLL CALL. THE NAMES OF THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR PRO TEM PROVISIONAL MAYOR IS CALLED LAST. OKAY. YOU ALL ARE BASICALLY DOING THAT IN JANUARY, ELECTING THOSE PEOPLE. OKAY. 
          AND IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT FOR YOU, I HOPE. MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION A, B, C WHEN YOU'RE CALLING FOR THE VOTE, YOU CALL THE MAYOR PRO TEM LAST PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM AND LAST. YES. IS THERE ONLY IN CASE OF A ROLL CALL VOTE YES, BECAUSE I CAN'T GET. 
          I'M THINKING IT'S IN. LET ME LOOK AT THE RULES SPECIFICALLY. RIGHT. OKAY. YES. SECTION C FOUR. OKAY. IF THERE. PRESIDING. ALRIGHT. AND AGAIN, I THINK I'VE SAID THIS. THE MAYOR PRO 
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TEM AND THE PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM PARTICIPATE AFTER EVERYBODY HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TWICE ON A MATTER YOU ALL LIKE, SPEAKING TWICE ON A MATTER AS I GO THROUGH THIS. YOUR RULES. ALL RIGHT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER ALSO HAS SOME OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. SHE DECIDES WHO SPEAKS AND WHAT ORDER SHE MAKES. SHE TALKS TO POINTS OF ORDER AND APPEAL. THERE. THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS BEING DISORDERLY, TO BE REMOVED FROM CHAMBERS. THEY'RE INSTRUCTED, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR SHOULD AT LEAST TELL THEM THAT THEY NEED TO COME TO ORDER. IF THEY CONTINUE TO BE DISORDERLY, THEN THEY'RE INSTRUCTED TO LEAVE. OR SHE CAN CALL FOR A MOTION FOR REMOVAL OF A DISORDERLY PERSON BY TWO THIRDS. VOTE FOR REMOVAL OF THAT PERSON. ALL RIGHT. DECORUM AND DEBATE. AS IT RELATES TO DECORUM AND DEBATE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEBATE, WE'RE NOT FUSSING. WE'RE NOT ARGUING. 
          WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION. WE HAVE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING AT IT TO ONE ANOTHER. WE'RE REFRAINING FROM ATTACKING ANYBODY, ANYBODY'S MOTIVES. WE ARE NOT BEING DISRUPTIVE OR DISTURBING THE ASSEMBLY AND REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING ADVERSELY ON A PRIOR MOTION THAT'S NOT PENDING, THAT HAS GONE AWAY. WE'RE IN THIS PARTICULAR DEBATE, AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST. AND WE HAVE CALLED FOR TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION, OUR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE SYNONYMOUS. THE TWO WORDS ARE SYNONYMOUS. YES. SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT DIFFERING OPINIONS, BUT IT IS THE SAME AS IT RELATES TO DEBATE AND DISCUSSION. SO THEN THE RULES THAT NAME DEBATE THEN SHOULD ALSO APPLY WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING THINGS, RIGHT? IF A MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR. YES. 
          WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEBATE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEBATING THE PROS AND CONS ON VOTING FOR A MOTION. NOW, YOU ALL MIGHT JUST BE HAVING A FRIENDLY CONVERSATION WHERE YOU'RE DISCUSSING SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. BUT AS IT RELATES TO MOTIONS AND PENDING BUSINESS, DEBATE AND DISCUSSION ARE THE SAME. SO. COMMON PRACTICE IS IS EMOTIONAL AGENDA. A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION ONE, TWO, THREE. AND THAT RESOLUTION MAY INCLUDE A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE QUESTIONS. AND SO AS OPPOSED TO SAYING A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION ONE TWO, THREE, THE MOTION IS MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU EVER GET TO A MOTION ON VOTING THAT RESOLUTION UP OR DOWN. OKAY. THE PROCESS AND I GUESS WE'RE ASKING YOU, BASED ON ROBERT, AND CITY COUNCIL RULES, IS THAT OKAY? OKAY, SO THAT'S YOUR CUSTOM. I GOT IT. THE ISSUE FOR ME AS A PARLIAMENTARIAN IS THAT THERE IS NO BUSINESS ON THE FLOOR UNTIL THERE IS A MOTION. SO WE CAN TALK ALL DAY ABOUT HAVING A PICNIC. BUT UNTIL SOMEBODY SAYS, I MOVED TO HAVE A PICNIC, WE SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSING IT. 
          ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S. NOW, IF YOUR CUSTOM IS DIFFERENT AND YOU WANT IT TO STAY THAT WAY, IT SHOULD BE MEMORIALIZED SOMEWHERE THAT THAT IS IN FACT, THE CASE. SO. I THINK WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT OUR CUSTOM IS NOT TO GO STRAIGHT TO THEIR RIGHT. OUT OF CUSTOM HAS BEEN TO MOVE TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION ON WHETHER TO DAY OR IN. AND WHEN SHE SAYS THAT ROBERT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE THAT MOTION TO OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, ROBERT ONLY RECOGNIZES DATA. BUT THAT CUSTOM IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE. AND IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE MOTION TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION ON SAFETY, WE SHOULD MORE ELABORATE. SO OKAY, BUT LET ME LET ME ADD THIS. JUST ANOTHER POINT TO THAT. ROBERT'S DOES HAVE SOMETHING CALLED 
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COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WHERE YOU CAN DISCUSS THINGS INFORMALLY, INFORMALLY, BEFORE YOU PUT IT TO A MOTION OR TO A VOTE. AND IT'S CALLED COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. NOW THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER. BALL OF WAX THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO GET INTO RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S CALLED GOING INTO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. AND THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU DISCUSS IT BEFORE YOU BRING IT TO A VOTE. YES. BECAUSE OF THAT, I ALWAYS USED TO SAY THEY GO TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE QUITE OFTEN. THAT IS ONE OF OUR MEETINGS LAST SO LONG BECAUSE WE HAD COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. AND WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM AND IT'S NOT A MOTION FOR A VOTE. AND THEN THERE'S A MOST IMPORTANT ONE OF THESE HOURS OF DISCUSSION. MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? COUNCIL WILL AGREE. THREE IS CONFUSING AND CONCERNING TO ME FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. SO WE SAID THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM SHALL PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION. AFTER ALL, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TWICE ON THAT. MY QUESTION ON THAT IS THERE IS A MOTION, THERE'S DISCUSSION. THE COLLEAGUES DISCUSS. NO ONE ELSE IS GOING IN. AND SO THEN THE MAN PRO TEM OF THE PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM, THEN THEY GO IN FOR DISCUSSION. THAT DISCUSSION MAY THEN LEAD TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SPEAK AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM OR THE PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM HAVE NOW SAID. SO THAT IS A BIT CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE THEN WE WAIT AGAIN FOR THEM TO SPEAK AGAIN, TWICE ON SOMETHING BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE PROVISIONAL. WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL DO IN THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE. IT THE THE ISSUE BECOMES WHETHER OR NOT, I GUESS WHAT THE QUESTION FOR ME BECOMES, WHY IS IT THAT THE MAYOR CAN'T SPEAK, BUT THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM CAN SPEAK DURING DEBATE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I WOULD THINK THAT THE RULES WOULD APPLY EQUALLY TO THOSE TWO PEOPLE, AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE QUESTION THAT YOU NOW HAVE. FOR THAT MOMENT. SO I MADE THAT NOTE TO COME BACK TO A DIFFERENT FORM TO TALK ABOUT THAT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DID MY ANSWER MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I THINK SO. OKAY. ONCE THE HOTEL AND THE PROVISIONAL STREET THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY WANT TO GO BACK IN, OR IF THEY SPOKE, THEY ONLY SPOKE TO ONE OF THE THINGS, OKAY, IT'S FINE. THEN IF THEY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE. AND IS IT BECAUSE THEY'RE REPRESENTING A DISTRICT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO STEP OUT OF THE PRESIDING ROLE AND THEN STEP OUT AND SPEAK FOR THE DISTRICT THAT THEY MIGHT OR THE CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY MIGHT REPRESENT. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME. AND THAT AND IF YOU'RE PRESIDING, IT SHOULD JUST BE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. OKAY. SO IS THIS ONLY APPLIED TO BECAUSE IN MY MIND, THE WAY THAT I WAS READING THIS, THIS IS WHEN THERE'S A GENERAL DISCUSSION AND THEY'RE NOT SERVING IN A DESIRABLE BECAUSE THERE'S NO DISTINCTION THAT SAYS WHEN THEY'RE PRESIDING. 
          AND ANOTHER THING. WELL, I MEAN, THEY THEY'RE NOT SERVING AS MAYOR PRO TEM UNLESS THEY ARE PRESIDING. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT, RIGHT. IT'S PRESIDING. THAT'S HOW I WOULD INTERPRET IT. RIGHT. DID HE GET ALL THE INFORMATION RIGHT? SO. PROVIDED THAT WE OPEN THE FORMAL DISCUSSION SECTION, ARE THEY CONSIST OF US ASKING THE STAFF AND THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY ATTORNEY TO SPEAK FURTHER QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS. AND THEN THERE'S THIS PART WHERE SOMEONE AT SOME POINT DECIDES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THINGS FURTHER, AND IT GOES ON FOR A LONG TIME. SO THERE WOULD PROBABLY WHERE WOULD THAT TYPE OF INVESTIGATION OF DISCOVERY OF INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT ON BOTH THINGS IN THE COMMITTEE. 
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THAT BRINGS FORTH THE MOTION, I WOULD THINK. AFTER THE SECOND THAT THE VILLAGE AND CIVIL PARISH IN THE SECOND. SO THAT THAT HAS BEEN SUFFICIENT. THEN YOU MOVE ON TO. LET ME JUST SAY, I HAVE NOT BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE BUSINESS IS TALKED ABOUT WITHOUT A MOTION. THAT'S JUST KIND OF FOREIGN TO ME. AGENDA. AND I SAID, FOR THIS, THIS AND THAT, THEY'RE IN A MOTION TO OPEN THE DISCUSSION. SO IT'S NOT HERE. IT'S NOT A PART OF YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS. FOR THEIR INFORMATION. AND THEN PASSING THE VOTE. AND THEN WE ASKED FOR DISCUSSION. SO THE DISCUSSION AGAIN. SO THE DISCUSSION. ALL WHILE THE HOUSES. AND THEN THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND AND YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR DISCUSSION AGAIN AND DISCUSSION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO TOUCH. AND SHE SAID THAT A LOT OF US. BACK FINDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE NEED HAPPEN BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER PROBLEMS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF I COULD GIVE OR. I LET WOULD YOU SAY IT HAPPENS WHEN WE GOT THE AGENDA AT THE TIME, BUT WE DIDN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE'RE USING OUR MEETINGS TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE FOR DOING COMMITTEE WORK AT THE MEETING. SO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. SO SO WE ARE WE IF EVERY TIME WE HAD TO VOTE ON SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO FULLY FLESH OUT AND DISCUSS EVERY ITEM. THAT'S HOW WE'RE CREATING MORE. SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR PROCESS IS GOING TO BE. THAT'S WHY I'M PUSHING FOR US TO DEFER TO THE APPROPRIATE LIKE WE HAVE STANDING COMMITTEES, BUT ALSO, IS IT YOUR POSITION THAT IF WE WERE TO GIVE THE AGENDAS EARLY, WE HAVE THESE QUESTIONS WE COULD ASK OF THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS STAFF. WE COULD DO SOME OF THAT QUESTIONING BEFORE WE GET INTO THE COUNCIL MEETING TO TAKE A VOTE. THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNCIL MEETING IS TO TAKE THE VOTE. RIGHT. BUT MY QUESTION. IS, AND I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT I GUESS FOR, WELL, I MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ANSWER THAT YOU'RE LISTENING FOR. CAN YOU TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF PERMISSIONS, BUT EVERYTHING'S. SO HOW DOES ROBERTS ANTICIPATE THE NEED FOR THAT? INFORMATION CHANGE? SHORT OF THE NIGHTMARISH SITUATION THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND TALK AGAIN, AND THEN, SO WHAT IS ROBERTS PROVIDE? TO BE MORE EFFICIENT? THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ROBERTS DOES IN AS IT RELATES TO EXPEDITING BUSINESS. FIRST OF ALL, AS WE SAID, GOING INTO A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TAKES A WHOLE LOT OF TIME. AND YOU'RE AND YOU'RE DOING COMMITTEE WORK WHEN SOMETHING COMES AS A MOTION, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FLESHED OUT IF IT COMES FROM A COMMITTEE, THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FLESHED OUT, AND THE COMMITTEE IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. AND AT THAT POINT, YOU CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN OR DISCUSS IT, AND THEN THE MAYOR BRINGS IT, YOU KNOW, THE MOTION IS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. IS THERE ANY DEBATE OR DISCUSSION? DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND HEALTHCARE PROCEDURES TO SOLVE FOR? FRAMING AND ORGANIZATIONAL CHALLENGES. AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO WITH THIS, BECAUSE THIS DOCUMENT IS FOR THE RULES OF THE MEETING, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING IN THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTEXT THAT COMES INTO IT. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT RIGHT AS WELL, BECAUSE I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BRINGING THE INFORMATION TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON. IF THAT'S NOT HAPPENING, ROBERTS OR NOTHING ELSE IS GOING TO HELP YOU ON THAT. SO. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE COMPREHENSIVE. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT I WILL WHAT I WILL SAY ABOUT ROBERTS, IT IS FOR MEETING MANAGEMENT AND 
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EFFICIENCIES. SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE LIMITING SPEAKERS TO TWO TIMES. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE LIMITING THE DEBATE TO 3 MINUTES OR 5 MINUTES OR WHATEVER THE RULE WOULD CALL FOR AT THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS, SO THAT YOU CAN END DEBATE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE HEADACHE AND YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING ALL THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ONE ISSUE. THOSE ARE TOOLS ALONG. 
          THE BUSINESS. MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME THAT THAT. AND THEY SHOULD BE AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN ORDER, THEY CAN BE HEARD ONLY TWICE ON THE SAME MOTION. YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER. THE MEETING IS AT 630. AND IF THAT IS REQUIRING THAT YOU GIVE US INFORMATION THAT'S HAD NO TIME TO PREPARE, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT FAIR TO STAFF. AND THEN THERE'S THIS EXPECTATION THAT STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE ANSWERS, WHICH LEADS TO MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY DON'T YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR WHY DON'T YOU HAVE IT? IT MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE TO PREPARE. SO HOPEFULLY WE ADDRESSED THIS AND MAYBE. AN AGENDA ITEM. THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE. IN TERMS OF THE TIME REQUIRED TO PROVIDE STAFF SO THAT THEY CAN BE PREPARED. AND IT GOES SMOOTHLY IN OUR MEETINGS. EFFICIENT? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS OR MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF MY PURVIEW TODAY. BUT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. LET'S SEE. DECORUM JUST REQUIRES THAT WE DON'T READ ALOUD FROM A DOCUMENT UNLESS WE HAVE PERMISSION. 
          YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SEATED. AND YOU DON'T INTERRUPT THE CHAIR. AND WE'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, RESTRAIN FROM DISTURBING THE ASSEMBLY. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SPEAK AGAINST YOUR MOTION. IF YOU MADE IT, YOU MADE IT FOR A REASON. IF YOU FIND THAT THE DEBATE MAKES YOU NOT WANT TO SUPPORT THAT ANYMORE, YOU CAN VOTE NO. BUT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SPEAK AGAINST YOUR MOTION. AND LET ME JUST SAY, I'M SORRY. THIS IS MY COMPUTER DOESN'T LIKE YOU ALL'S COMPUTER. EVIDENTLY, I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. THE CHAIR IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMPARTIAL AT ALL TIMES. ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS WITH COUNCIL AND WHETHER YOU'RE MAYOR. IT DOES SAY THAT THE MAYOR DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION OR AND ONLY VOTES AS IT RELATES TO A TIE. SO IMPARTIALITY IS IMPORTANT. 
          SO THAT IS TO THE MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM PROVISIONAL MAYOR PRO TEM ALL OF THAT. ALRIGHT. WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE UGLY IN THE MEETING. YOU CAN BE EXPELLED IF YOU DO NOT. GO BY THE RULES YOU CONTINUE TO VIOLATE. AND AFTER BEING CAUTIONED BY THE CHAIR, ACCORDING TO RULE 31, THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE YOU REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. OKAY? AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. THERE'S NO REASON THAT SHOULD HAPPEN, I SHOULD SAY. AND IT'S IN THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER, THE MAYOR OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM TO CALL SOMEONE OUT OF ORDER. 
          ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF DEBATE, AND IT JUST SAYS IT'S A FORMAL DISCUSSION ON THE MERITS OF THE PENDING QUESTIONS. SO DISCUSSION IS A WORD USED TO DEFINE DEBATE, AND IT SHOULD BE SENSIBLE AND RATIONAL AND HELP YOU ALL MAKE A FINAL GREAT DECISION. THE DEBATE SHOULD NOT BE. YOU SHOULD STAY ON POINT. IT SHOULD BE GERMANE TO THE TOPIC, AND IT IS THERE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO GATHER ALL THE FACTS, PROS, CONS AND MAKE THE 
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RIGHT DECISION FOR THE CITY AS IT RELATES IN YOUR MIND ANYWAY. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DEBATE A LITTLE BIT AND WHEN NOBODY HAS THE FLOOR, THIS IS ROBERT'S, THIS IS HOW IT WORKS AT ROBERT'S. IF NOBODY HAS THE FLOOR, I CAN RISE AND SEEK RECOGNITION. I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE POLICIES RELATIVE TO RECOGNITION BEFORE YOU SPEAK. AND SO THE PRESIDING OFFICER WOULD RECOGNIZE ME. AND THEN AND ONLY THEN WOULD I BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. ROBERT SAYS THAT EVERY MEMBER HAS A RIGHT TO SPEAK FOR TEN MINUTES. THAT'S A LONG TIME TO SPEAK, AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK TWICE. BUT NO MEMBER CAN SPEAK MORE THAN TWICE TO THE SAME QUESTION, AND A MEMBER CAN'T SPEAK UNTIL ALL MEMBERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK HAVE SPOKEN. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S WHAT ROBERT SAYS. YOUR RULES ARE AT SEVEN AND EIGHT AGAIN. YOU MUST BE RECOGNIZED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IF TWO OR MORE PEOPLE JUMP UP AT THE SAME TIME, THE PRESIDING OFFICER HAS THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHO SPEAKS FIRST. AGAIN, DEBATE HAS TO RELATE TO THE TOPIC AT HAND. ROBERT'S USES THE WORD GERMANE, SO IT HAS TO BE GERMANE TO THE TOPIC. 
          YOU AVOID PERSONAL COMMENTS. YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT MEMBER'S MOTIVES. AND OF COURSE, NO COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL SPEAK MORE THAN ONCE ON THE SAME QUESTION UNTIL EVERY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. CAN I ASK SOMEBODY TO BRING ME A BOTTLE OF WATER BACK THERE, PLEASE? SO THAT'S RULE SEVEN AND EIGHT. YES. GO AHEAD. WAS YOUR FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH OTHER MEMBERS? I THINK THAT'S CLEAR AND DIRECTED BY MANAGEMENT. BUT AS MEMBERS SHOULD NOT REPEAT THE MOTIVES OF OTHER MEMBERS. SO BOTH OF THOSE ONLY APPLY IF SOMEONE IS CALLING SOMEONE OUT BY NAME OR IF THEY'RE USING SOMETHING LIKE SOME MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL, BLAH BLAH, BLAH. WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD. TRY TO TAKE THE PERSONAL OUT OF IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I WOULD NEVER SAY ANYTHING LIKE PERSON'S. I WOULD SAY IT MAY BE A GENERAL BELIEF THAT I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S JUST A MORE DIPLOMATIC WAY OF SAYING CERTAIN PERSONS DO CERTAIN THINGS. BUT ROBERT'S ALWAYS WANTS US TO TAKE THE PERSONAL OUT OF IT. IN FACT, ROBERT'S DOESN'T WANT YOU TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND CALL EACH OTHER BY NAME. ALL COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED THROUGH THE CHAIR, AND THAT KEEPS THE PERSONALITY OUT OF IT. RIGHT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF TO. TO DO SOMETHING THINGS, BUT SOME. YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, NO, I DON'T THINK IT DOES. THAT. WE'RE VIOLATING THE RULES. 
          WE'RE KIND OF DOING ALL THIS PERSONAL STUFF. LIKE IT WOULD BE A. THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO SAY. IF A MEMBER WAS CALLING SOMEONE'S NAME, THE MAYOR WOULD SAY. MR. SO-AND-SO, LET'S BE REMINDED THAT ALL COMMENTS COME THROUGH THE CHAIR. WE DO NOT ADDRESS INDIVIDUALS BY NAME. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION OR THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE CAN OPEN AND CLOSE DEBATE, SPEAK NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES. SPEAKING AT THE CLOSURE, NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. MEMBERS CAN SPEAK TWICE, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES ON THE SUBJECT OF CHOICE DURING GENERAL COMMENT PERIOD. I GUESS 
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THE GENERAL COMMENT PERIOD IS THIS PERIOD DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS COUNCIL COMMENTS, NUMBER 13. THAT YOU DID OKAY. SO FOR WE CAN NEVER BE TOO BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU CAN NEVER. WHAT IS VERY HARD FOR US TO STAY IN THE NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS IN OUR MEETINGS, WE GET A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE CALLED UPON BY THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR WILL ALLOW US TO GO IN. 
          USUALLY WE ASK QUESTIONS. SO I'LL ASK THE MAYOR. CAN I ASK THE PERSON WHO SENT ME THE QUESTION? SHE'LL BRING IT TO ME. I ASK THAT PERSON ANY QUESTION? DOES THAT START BY FIVE MINUTES? MY QUESTION AND THEIR RESPONSE TO ME? I DON'T THINK THEIR RESPONSE IS IN YOUR FIVE MINUTES, BUT LET ME JUST SAY THIS FIVE MINUTES IS A LONG TIME TO TALK. BUT AT AT ANY RATE, WHAT WAS I GOING TO SAY? WENT RIGHT OUT OF MY BRAIN THERE. ROBERTS ALSO HAS A RULE, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THIS RULE WHICH YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE, A RULE WHICH LIMITS OR EXTENDS THE LIMITS OF DEBATE. AND AT ANY TIME, IF WELL, AT ANY TIME, NOT WHILE SOMEBODY IS TALKING, BUT WHILE SOMETHING IS GOING ON AND YOU'RE HAVING DEBATE, A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SAY, I MOVE THAT. WE LIMIT DEBATE ON THIS MATTER UNTIL 5:00, AND IT MIGHT BE FIVE, IT MIGHT BE 445, OR I MOVE THAT WE LIMIT DEBATE ON THIS TOPIC TO 6 MINUTES OR 3 MINUTES. YEAH, YOU CAN EXTEND THE TIME OR YOU CAN LIMIT THE TIME. TO WHAT I SAID. COUNCIL IS CURRENTLY LISTENING TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION RIGHT. WE'RE NOT EVEN DEBATING. WE'RE. AND THEN THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND. AND THEN THERE'S EVEN MORE QUESTIONS. AND SO IT JUST GOES BACK IN THIS CRAZY CYCLE. I THINK THAT. THERE'S ALWAYS. ROBERTS CALLS IT A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, AND THERE'S ALWAYS THE RIGHT TO HAVE INFORMATION IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE TO MAKE GREAT DECISIONS. RIGHT? SO, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT JUST TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO HAVE STAFF TIME INCLUDED. 
          HOW MUCH STAFF TIME? IF YOU HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, THAT SAYS TO ME THAT YOU'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ON IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE ON ON THE FLOOR AT ALL. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. AND THAT WAS US ASKING AN OUTSIDE PARTY A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS IN RESPONSES, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF OUR TIME. SHOULD IT BE THE IDEAL SITUATION OR NOT NECESSARILY. SO I THINK YOU NEED IT. ACCOMPLISH. WHAT SHE JUST SAID IS THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING FOR US TO VOTE. IF WE ARE USING THE MEETINGS TO GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION TO BE PREPARED TO VOTE, WE MAY BE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. BUT IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE ENGAGING WITH THE INFORMATION, WE'RE SPENDING AN HOUR ON IT. TO HER POINT, WERE NOT PREPARED TO VOTE, AND THEREFORE WE SHOULD BE DELIBERATE. NUMBER THREE, AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION EARLIER WAS ON US LEARNING AND ACTUALLY HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH. OKAY, AGAIN, DEBATE INCLUDES DISCUSSION. IT'S IT WAS IN THE DEFINITION. IT IS THE IT IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE SALIENT POINTS OF THE MOTION. NOW, SOME MOTIONS ARE MORE COMPLICATED THAN OTHERS. SOME ISSUES ARE MORE COMPLICATED THAN OTHERS. IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TIME, THEN OF COURSE ROBERTS DOESN'T SAY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AND I THINK WHAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO A POINT OF IS TO LIMIT SOME OF THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE ON MORE EFFICIENTLY WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY. NOW, THAT'S NOT MY CALL. I'M SORRY. OKAY. LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT. CAROL. IS PROPOSING CAN BE. IS THERE A 
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BEST PRACTICE THAT THIS COUNCIL SHOULD PUT THE MOTION BEFORE THE AMOUNT OF TIME, WHETHER IT IS DISCUSSION OR IT'S ARE YOU YOU ALL HAVE LIMITATIONS. I THINK WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THE. 
          ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE THE LIMITATIONS IN PLACE BECAUSE OF ALL THE EXTRA INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO GATHER TO MAKE A DECISION TAKES A LONG TIME. YES, MA'AM. IS THAT TIME? THAT CAN BE. SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE THIRD IS THAT YOUR RESEARCH? IS THAT. STILL. 
          INTACT? WE NEED TO DO OUR PART TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT IT. AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET. STARTED. I THINK. WE HAVE. TIME. SO WE ASKED YOU FOR THAT. AND I THINK THAT WAS RESULT IN AN EMAIL TO YOU, DON'T YOU? BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT. UNTIL WEDNESDAY WITH THE BECAUSE SHE HAD TO. AND WHO'S KEEPING TIME. OH WE DO OKAY. IS THAT PART OF THE BODY OR. IS THIS ALL THE TIME AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF. MAKE THE MOST OF THE TIME FOR COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE. SO I. WAS A GREAT POCKET. WHAT CAN I DO IN THIS? BECAUSE WE PROBABLY SAID THE SAME THING THAT WE SUGGESTED TO AMEND IT BECAUSE IT TAKES MORE. SO WHAT CAN YOU DO? SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION JUST IN GENERAL, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THINGS THAT COME BEFORE IT IN ONE MEETING, AND THEN IT COMES UP IN A NEXT SESSION AND YOU'RE MORE PREPARED TO VOTE AT THAT NEXT SESSION. YOU. BUT ALL COUNCIL PERSONS ARE AT EACH WORK SESSION. THEY ARE OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THEN, SO. AND THEN TO BEGIN WITH, YOUR CONTACT. IS THERE ANYTHING. THE. SUGGESTED THAT I HAVE. A NEED TO THOSE. AND THEN THAT SHOULD BE. MAYBE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AROUND WHAT WE START WITH. LIKE WE WILL HAVE THE BY THE MORNING AND I PROBABLY WOULD'VE TOLD HER THAT, BUT MY. SO I THINK WE'LL NEED TO ADHERE TO THE. 
          BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO EXTEND THE MEETING STARTED. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. RIGHT. AND SO AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS, ROBERTS IS ROBERTS. THE CITY OF EAST POINT IS THE CITY OF EAST POINT. IF YOU NEED TO HAVE RULES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR LIFE EASIER, THEN THOSE ARE YOUR RULES. I AM MERELY ADVISING WHAT ROBERTS SAYS. AND NOW WE'RE SEEING THAT SOME OF THE RULES ARE QUESTIONABLE. 
          HAVE QUESTIONS, LOOPHOLES. YOU KNOW, LANGUAGE CAN BE TIGHTENED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR ALL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT JUST SO YOU CAN. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, 
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ROBERTS IS ROBERTS. BUT THE RULES OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE ARE YOUR RULES. AND THEY NEED TO BE ONES THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH AND MAKE YOUR LIFE. NOBODY SHOULD BE AT A MEETING UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING. I MEAN, IT JUST IS KIND OF WEIRD TO ME. CAN YOU? DO YOU HAVE. TIME? WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A. WE NEED TO. TROUBLESHOOT. YOUR QUESTION. AGAIN. AND THEN FINALLY. OKAY, SO I THINK THAT THAT IS A. YOU KNOW, IF I. I THINK THAT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS PROBABLY THAT THE RULES. I CAN GO BACK AND SEE IF ROBERTS HAS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE HELPFUL FOR YOU AND GIVE THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. BUT AS WE AS YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS, JUST SHARE IT WITH HER JUST SO THAT YOU ALL CAN BE MORE EXPEDITIOUS ABOUT YOUR MEETING. YEAH. I AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU. MADE THE MOVIE TO FIT WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED AND. CONTINUE USUALLY THAT THEY'RE NOT WORKING. YEAH. ESPECIALLY WITH THAT. OKAY. JUST TO ADDRESS OR YOU CAN HAVE A OR OR YOU CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION JUST TO TALK ABOUT TIME. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW OUR MEETING GOES. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A SUBSET JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE DEAL WITH TIME ISSUES. I'M SORRY. NOW WHAT I'M ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A WORK SESSION, DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE IN ONE WORK SESSION. YOU SHOULD HAVE SUBSETS. YOU KNOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT TIME MANAGEMENT THIS TIME. LET'S TALK ABOUT IN ANOTHER WORK SESSION, SOMETHING ELSE. BUT DON'T TRY TO HAVE IT ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE IT JUST IT'S JUST MIND BOGGLING. DEFINITELY OF TIME THAT YOU, BECAUSE YOU HAVE STAFF HERE ALL NIGHT WAITING FOR A VERY HARD ONE. SO I THINK MOTIONS IS VERY CRITICAL FOR STRATEGY. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE. OKAY. SO ROBERT SAYS THAT WE HAVE CLASSES OF MOTIONS. WE HAVE MAIN MOTIONS. WE HAVE SUBSIDIARY MOTIONS, PRIVILEGE MOTIONS, INCIDENTAL MOTIONS AND MOTIONS THAT BRING A QUESTION AGAIN BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY. YOU ALL HAVE ALL OF THESE MOTIONS IN YOUR RULES. YOU DON'T CALL THEM BY THESE NAMES, BUT YOU DO HAVE THEM. ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME JUST I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS MOTION IS A STATEMENT OF A PROPOSED ACTION. AND IT IT IT SOLICITS OPINION FOR CONSIDERATION AND DECISIONS. THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF MAIN MOTIONS. THERE'S AN ORIGINAL MAIN MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE BUY A COMPUTER. THAT'S A MAIN MOTION. AN INCIDENTAL MAIN MOTION IS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSINESS ON THE FLOOR. THERE'S NO BUSINESS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR. BUT I MIGHT SAY AS AN INCIDENTAL MOTION, I MOVE THAT THE REST OF THIS MEETING, WE DO VOTE BY ROLL CALL. 
          THERE'S NOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SO I'M SAYING SOMETHING INCIDENTAL TO A MOTION. OKAY. 
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AND ONLY ONE MAIN MOTION CAN BE CONSIDERED AT A TIME. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS REQUIRES A SECOND. IT'S DEBATABLE. IT'S AMENDABLE REQUIRES A MAJORITY VOTE AND IT CAN BE RECONSIDERED. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A LOT OF MOTIONS IN YOUR RULES, IT DOESN'T SAY HOW THE VOTE IS CARRIED. SO IS IT A MAJORITY OR TWO THIRDS? MOST OF THE TIME IT'S A MAJORITY. I THINK SOME THINGS REQUIRE A TWO THIRDS. BUT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE MOTION, IT NEVER SAYS THAT THAT MOTION REQUIRES A MAJORITY VOTE. IT JUST SAYS THE MOTION IS NOT DEBATABLE. LIKE FROM TAKE FROM THE TABLE. THAT'S ALL IT SAYS ABOUT THE MOTION. OKAY. WELL, DOES IT REQUIRE A SECOND AT THIS POINT? DOES IT, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE A MAJORITY VOTE? THAT KIND OF THING COULD BE AUGMENTED. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS. YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW THIS. YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES AS IT RELATES TO MAKING MOTIONS. SO DON'T MAKE A MOTION THAT CAN'T BE CONSIDERED OR IS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, OR IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO. IT WASTES THE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S OBSCURE OR SO COMPLICATED, LIKE MOST OF YOUR EMOTIONS ARE THERE IN WRITING. AND SO YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE. YOU CAN WITHDRAW A MOTION AT ANY TIME UNTIL IT'S SPOKEN BY THE CHAIR. AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE A RULE ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, BUT YOU ALL DO HAVE A RULE ABOUT WITHDRAWAL OF A MOTION. ONCE THE MOTION IS REPEATED BY THE CHAIR, IT NO LONGER BELONGS TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. IT BELONGS TO THE ASSEMBLY. IF THE ASSEMBLY ALLOWS YOU TO WITHDRAW IT BY A MAJORITY VOTE, THEN THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO THE MAIN MOTION INTRODUCES A SUBJECT FOR BUSINESS. IT CAN ONLY BE MADE WHEN NO OTHER MOTION IS PENDING, AND IT HAS THE LOWEST RANK OF ALL MOTIONS. AND THIS IS THESE ARE THE STEPS THE MEMBER MAKES THE MOTION. THERE'S A SECOND. THE CHAIR STATES THE MOTION ASKS FOR DEBATE. THEN IT PUTS THE QUESTION TO THE BODY AND THERE'S A VOTE TAKEN AND THE CHAIR GIVES THE RESULT OF THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. RULE 16 HAS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION HERE. YOUR ORDINANCES HAVE TO BE IN PROPER FORM IN WRITING. ONE SUBJECT MATTER PER ORDINANCE. IT HAS AN ENACTING CLAUSE. IT HAS TO BE THERE. AND AN ORDINANCE THAT SPEAKS TO REPEALING OR AMENDING SOMETHING HAS TO SAY WHICH SECTION IS SUPPOSED TO BE PEELED OR AMENDED. AND I THINK YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY ALL FAMILIAR WITH RULE 16 ALSO. YOU KNOW, THESE ORDINANCES OR MOTIONS CAN BE MADE AT ANY REGULAR MEETING. YOU CAN HAVE SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE SHALL BE READ BY TITLE AT TWO REGULAR MEETINGS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING BEFORE, IS IT NOT, THAT YOU. IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU HEAR SOMETHING. IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN READ AT TWO REGULAR MEETINGS, UNLESS WAIVED BY TWO THIRDS VOTE. AND SOME OF YOUR ORDINANCES HAVE TO BE ADVERTISED AT A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OF COURSE, BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE ON IT. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A CHART OF AN ORDER OF PRECEDENCE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED IN PARLIAMENTARY LANGUAGE AS OPPOSED TO PRECEDENCE. BUT YOU HAVE A MAIN MOTION ON THE BOTTOM. AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE MAIN MOTION AT A TIME. IS THAT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. BUT THEN YOU CAN HAVE SUBSIDIARY MOTIONS WHICH ARE POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. A MIN REFER POSTPONE TO A CERTAIN TIME LIMIT OR EXTEND LIMITS OF DEBATE. PREVIOUS QUESTION LAY ON THE TABLE. THOSE ARE ALL SUBSIDIARY MOTIONS. THE FIVE AT THE TOP ARE CALLED PRIVILEGED MOTIONS. AND THIS IS THE ORDER OF RANKING OF THOSE MOTIONS. 
          AND WHEN YOU VOTE ON THEM, YOU VOTE ON THEM COMING DOWN. BUT WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THEM, THEY GO UP THAT WAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IN OTHER WORDS. I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE BUY A COMPUTER, SOMEBODY MAKES AN AMENDMENT. I MOVE THAT WE AMEND THAT MOTION TO ADD THE WORDS 
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NOT TO EXCEED $1,000. THE PURPOSE OF AMEND AT THAT POINT IS TO WANT TO HELP MY MOTION ALONG, BECAUSE MOTION TO BUY A COMPUTER, I MEAN, IS A LAPTOP. IS IT A DELL? IS IT A LENOVO? IS IT GOING TO COST $5,000? I MEAN, SO, SO YOU AMEND AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO THIS. SO SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, LET'S POSTPONE THIS TO A CERTAIN TIME NEXT MONTH, AND THAT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. WELL, IF YOU THEN VOTE TO POSTPONE THE MOTION AS AMENDED, YOU CAN'T COME BACK AND AMEND AGAIN BECAUSE AMEND IS LOWER THAN POSTPONED. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S AN ORDER OF RANKING. SO ONCE YOU DO SOMETHING ABOVE SOMETHING YOU CAN'T COME BACK AND DO BELOW, BELOW IT. SO IF I MOVE TO LIMIT OR POSTPONE THE LIMITS OF DEBATE. I CAN'T COME BACK NOW AND SAY I MOVED TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. IT TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER ANYTHING BELOW IT. OKAY, SO YOU DON'T YOU DON'T TAKE THE VOTE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE TO A CERTAIN TIME UNTIL MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE MAKES A MOTION. TO LAY ON THE TABLE. OKAY. IF YOU WERE TO MOVE TO POSTPONE TO A CERTAIN TIME, WE WOULD POSTPONE IT AND WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT. SO YOU'LL GET THE SECOND AND YOU'LL GET THE VOTE ON THAT, AND THEN YOU WON'T TALK. AND IF THAT PASSES, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE. THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UNTIL THAT CERTAIN TIME. GOT IT. ALRIGHT. CAN YOU TALK TO ME? CAN YOU TALK TO US REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS TO MOTIONS? OKAY. YOU KNOW, ALL AMENDMENTS HOPEFULLY ARE SIMPLE BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS SUBSIDIARY MOTIONS. TRY TO LIKE I USE THE MOTION ABOUT THE LAPTOP. IT TRIES TO IMPROVE THE MOTION. OKAY, SO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT REALLY STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE STEPS OF BEING ADOPTED AS AN AMENDMENT. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SUPPORTIVE, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS. 
          IT'S IT SHOULD STILL GO THROUGH THE STEPS OF WHAT, HOW TO AMEND A MOTION. SO YOU VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. IF THE AMENDMENT PASSES, THEN YOU VOTE ON THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED. NOW, THE ONLY WAY IT COULD BE SUPER FRIENDLY IS THAT YOU AMEND IT BEFORE THE MAYOR STATES IT THE FIRST TIME, BECAUSE ONCE THE MAYOR STATES IT, IT BELONGS TO THE ASSEMBLY. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU ANYMORE. SO THAT MEANS SHE HAS TO RESTATE ALL OF OUR EMOTIONS. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SAYS WHAT SHE WHAT SHE SAYS IS, THEN WHAT GETS ADOPTED, RIGHT? HOW SHE HOW SHE SAYS IT AND HOW YOU ALL. YES. OKAY. IT'S IMPORTANT. VERBIAGE IS IMPORTANT WHEN IT IS PUT TO A VOTE. SO SO IF I SAY A MOTION, YOU HAVE TO SAY IT BACK TO THE RECORD BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE ADOPTED. SO IF YOU CHANGE MY MOTION, THEN WHAT YOU CHANGE IS WHAT WE VOTE ON. AND THAT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT I WOULD WANT IT TO MOTION. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT WITHDRAWING A MOTION BEFORE IT'S IN THE POSSESSION OF THE HOUSE. RIGHT. SO ONCE SHE STATES IT RIGHT, THEN THAT'S IT. RIGHT. SO SIMPLY IT CAN LOOK LIKE THIS. I MAKE A MOTION, IT'S SECONDED. THEN THE MAYOR IS I THINK IT'S SIX STEPS MOTION. SECOND. THE MAYOR STATES IT. THEN THERE'S DEBATE. THEN THE MAYOR STATES IT AGAIN. AND WHEN SHE STATES IT THAT TIME, IT'S FOR THE VOTE. AND IT MATTERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON. WHAT SHE SAYS AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT. OKAY. WHAT DID SHE SAY? IT'S UP TO ME TO CORRECT MY MOTION. IS SHE IF SHE STATES IT INCORRECTLY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY MOTION IS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, RIGHT? CORRECT. YOU KNOW, AND IT'S YOU 
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ALSO MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A PARTICULARLY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, THEIR MOTION FORMS THAT YOU CAN HAVE AND THEY COME IN TRIPLICATE, YOU CAN MAKE THEM TRIPLICATE. AND IT WOULD BE A COUNCIL MEMBER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO WRITE OUT THE MOTION. SO YOU HAND IT TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER, YOU HAND IT TO THE SECRETARY AND YOU GOT A COPY SO YOU CAN READ IT. SO IT'S NO QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE MOTION IS SUPPOSED TO BE. THAT MIGHT BE A HELPFUL TOOL FOR YOU. THOSE MOTIONS ARE. PAY ATTENTION OVER THERE. YEAH, IT IS. YES IT IS. PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR MINUTES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. ONE LAST THING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND EXECUTIVE SESSION AND HOW YOU COME IN AND OUT OF THAT, THAT IS HERE. BUT THERE WAS ONE CONFUSING THING I WANT TO ASK THAT YOU ALL LOOK AT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. WHEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE. YOU HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE TWO SUBSTITUTIONS. I'M TRYING TO FIND THE RULE. NUMBER. 
          AND IF SOMEONE ENTERED OR MADE A MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE, THEN IT'S LIKE NOT A SECOND. THEN THAT GOES BACK DOWN TO THE MAIN MOTION BECAUSE THAT SUBSTITUTE THE WORD ON THE FLOOR IS NO, NOT QUITE. ACCORDING TO YOU, ALL'S RULES. YOU CAN HAVE TWO SUBSTITUTIONS AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS. IT JUST SAYS THAT YOU CAN HAVE UP TO TWO SUBSTITUTIONS IN THE RULE. AS I RECALL. OKAY, SO ROBERT'S ONLY DEALS WITH ONE SUBSTITUTE. I DON'T KNOW HOW. THEN HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH SUBSTITUTE YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE? DO YOU VOTE ON SUBSTITUTE A, SUBSTITUTE B AND THEN. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MAIN MOTION? ROBERT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE A MAIN MOTION. THEN YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE. YOU PERFECT THE MAIN MOTION THROUGH AMENDMENTS OR WHATEVER. YOU PERFECT THE SUBSTITUTE AND THEN YOU VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT THE SUBSTITUTE WILL SUBSTITUTE THE MAIN MOTION. 
          IF THAT FAILS, THEN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION PERFECT AND VOTE ON IT. BUT SO THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED ON HOW YOU CAN VOTE ON TWO SUBSTITUTES. OKAY. DOES THAT PEOPLE SEE THE NAME OF THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PROTECT, YOU HAVE TO PERFECT THE MAIN MOTION. YOU PERFECT THE SUBSTITUTE, AND THEN YOU DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE SUBSTITUTE WILL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE MAIN MOTION. AND IF IT VOTES TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE MAIN MOTION, THEN THE MAIN MOTION GOES AWAY AND YOU VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TWO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS. TWO SUBSTITUTIONS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS. Y'ALL CAN HAVE ME BACK AND I CAN WRITE IT UP FOR YOU. HOW ABOUT THAT? AND YOU CAN SHOW US HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. I CAN DO THAT. AS IT IS AS A LIVE DEBATE OR MAKING MOTIONS. 
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OKAY. WE'RE READY. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. ALRIGHT, IT'S 207. 
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LET'S START WITH OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD PRESENTATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MR. LAWRENCE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JUST WANT TO START OFF BY TALKING ABOUT OUR PURPOSE, OUR MISSION, THE CORE FUNCTIONS AND THE DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT METHODS THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN. 
          FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO START WITH OUR MISSION. WE'RE TRANSPARENT AND COMPLIANT. STEWARDSHIP OF THE CITY RESOURCES. OUR VISION IS WE'RE A TRUSTED PARTNER DELIVERING VALUE, EXPERTISE AND OUTSTANDING SERVICE. I'LL START WITH OUR CORE FUNCTION. WE OVERSEE ALL PURCHASES, OF COURSE, ACTIVITIES AND APPROVALS. WE'RE PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS WITHIN THE, EXCUSE ME, THE ERP SYSTEM. WE ADMINISTER INFORMAL ORDERS FOR QUOTES. THAT'S LESS THAN 12,500. 
          ANYTHING OVER THAT. WE GO TO AN OFFICIAL SOLICITATION. THAT'S OUR RFQ. RFQ STANDS FOR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION. ITB IS INVITATION TO BID AND RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. SOME OF OUR SPECIAL PROCUREMENT METHODS ARE SOLE AND SINGLE SOURCE. SOLE SOURCE, OF COURSE, IS. 
          THAT MEANS THAT THE COMPANY. THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO IT. SINGLE SOURCES MEAN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CARRY OVER A PARTICULAR AMOUNT OF WORK OR SERVICE OF WORK OVER INTO THAT. 
          SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PREVIOUS COMPANY. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PIGGYBACKING. 
          PIGGYBACKING MEANS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE ANY MUNICIPALITY WITHIN THE STATE, EXCUSE ME, WITHIN THE COUNTRY, WE CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE THEIR CONTRACT AND ACTUALLY UTILIZE IT HERE. THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, WE HAVE COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS. YOUR COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS ARE KNOWN AS AGGREGATE PURCHASES WITHIN THE CITY ORDINANCE. SECTION FOUR 3322. SOME OF THOSE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN AS WELL. OMNIA PARTNERS AND TIPS. WE ALSO COORDINATE DOCUMENTATION. 
          WE REROUTE WITH OUR SYSTEM OF CONTRACT WORKS. YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THAT MADAM MAYOR AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE YOU'VE SEEN CONTRACT WORKS. WE UTILIZE THAT. WE SEND ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS, CONTRACTS FOR APPROVAL PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE ALSO MY DEPARTMENT ALSO RUNS THE WAREHOUSE. WE DEAL WITH INVENTORY MANAGEMENT, ENSURING SECURITY, EFFICIENT 
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STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION. AND ALSO WE DO A LOT OF STOCKING AND TRACKING OF THE CITY ASSETS FOR THE SECOND TIME. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AS WELL. I'M THOMAS MAGNUM, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST PROJECT THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IS THE GRID HARDENING PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON BEN HILL ROAD. THIS CAPITAL PROJECT BROKE GROUND NOVEMBER 2025. THIS WILL CONVERT OUR EXISTING OVERHEAD LINES TO UNDERGROUND. 
          THIS WILL ENHANCE SYSTEM RELIABILITY, REDUCE OUTAGES, AND IMPROVE THE OVERALL RESILIENCE OF THE ELECTRIC GRID. THE SECOND PROJECT THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IS TO TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UPGRADE AND DESIGNS. THIS. THE FIRST PART OF THIS IS SCHEDULED FROM 2026 TO 2028. THIS WILL CONVERT SPAN WIRE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTERSECTION TO MAST ARM SYSTEMS. THE KEY LOCATIONS, INCLUDING THE FIRST INTERSECTION IS BOBBY BROWN AND VIRGINIA AVENUE. THIS IS CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN STAGE. WE HOPEFULLY GET THIS COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2026. THE SECOND INTERSECTION WILL BE CLEVELAND AVENUE AND NORMAN BERRY, AND THE THIRD INTERSECTION WILL BE CLEVELAND AVENUE AND SYLVAN ROAD. ONE OF OUR CAPITAL PURCHASES FOR THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS BECKETT LEASE TO PURCHASE. THIS LEADS TO PURCHASE FOR 2025 TO 2030. 
          FIVE. BECKETT TRUCKS AND TWO TRUCKS. THIS WOULD ENHANCE OUR RELIABILITY AND RESPONSES TO OUTAGES CITYWIDE. OUR CURRENT FLEET IS TEN YEARS OLD. THE LIFE EXPECTANCY NORMALLY FOR OUR BUCKET TRUCKS ARE EIGHT YEARS, SO WE SURPASSED THAT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS ENJOY THE REST OF THE EVENING. I'LL STICK AROUND FOR QUESTIONS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MISTER ROGERS, DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SERVES AS THE CITY'S PRIMARY DRIVER FOR BUSINESS GROWTH, INVESTMENT AND COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION. AT ITS CORE, WE SIMPLY FOCUS ON BUSINESS RECRUITMENT, BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION, INVESTMENT, JOB CREATION AND INVESTMENT, ALL WHILE ADVANCING THE AREAS OF ECONOMIC ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CITY'S VITALITY, ITS ITS TAX BASE, AS WELL AS THE QUALITY OF LIVING FOR ALL OF THE CITIZENS. WHAT HAVE WE DONE LATELY? WELL, LAST YEAR WE CREATED, WITH THE HELP OF KB ADVISORY GROUP, AND YOU APPROVED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEN YEAR STRATEGY PLAN. THIS PLAN LOOKS AT BUSINESS RETENTION EFFORTS. IT LOOKS AT BEST PRACTICES, INDUSTRY CLUSTERS, AS WELL AS TARGETED INDUSTRIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY. STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO WORK THE PLAN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE WITHIN THE METRO ATLANTA REGION. WE ALSO AND BASED ON THE THE TIMING, WE WE LAUNCHED THE THE FACADE PROGRAM IN 2021, 2024. YOU APPROVED THAT IN 2025. I MEAN, YOU APPROVED IT IN 2024. WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM IN 2025. TO DATE, WE HAVE ISSUED 31 APPLICATIONS TO THOSE APPLICANTS. SIX THREE HAS COMPLETED THEIR PROJECTS. THREE ARE IN PROGRESS, SIX HAS RESCINDED, AND 20 ARE IN HAS INITIATED WORK ON THEIR PROJECTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. ALSO, A VERY BIG INITIATIVE IS THAT LAST MONTH YOU APPROVED AND WE CREATED THE 2026 WORLD CUP SOCCER GAMES PLAN, AND WE ARE WELL UNDERWAY WITH THAT PLAN. IT CUTS ACROSS PRACTICALLY EVERY DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT, IN TERMS OF PUTTING TOGETHER THE PLAN. ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED HAVE THEIR ASSIGNMENTS, THEIR ROLES, THEIR DUTIES. WE ARE WORKING AS A BONA FIDE TEAM TO 
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MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN GOES OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A VERY, VERY BIG DAY ON JUNE 27TH OF THIS YEAR. ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE LAUNCHED AND CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH OUR FILM AND MOVIE INDUSTRY. NOW, OF COURSE, THAT INDUSTRY HAS SLOWED DOWN HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, AND THAT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. IN TERMS OF THE FILM AND MOVIE INDUSTRY, A LOT OF THAT WORK HAS MOVED ACROSS THE OCEAN, BUT WE ARE STILL GETTING AND OBTAINING OUR SLICE OF THE PIE. AND SO YOU'LL SEE AROUND TOWN THAT MOVIES ARE STILL BEING DONE HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, JUST NOT QUITE AT THE LEVEL THAT IT WAS DONE PRIOR TO THE THE PANDEMIC. BASICALLY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ON THIS FLOOR. STOP BY DROP BY CALL, TEXT, EMAIL. WE WILL TAKE YOUR CALLS AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AT YOUR WILL. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. BASED ON THE TIMING, PLEASE ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY. THANK YOU. HI, I'M CHIEF COREY THORNTON WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING RIGHT NOW. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IS NUMBER ONE WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. WE'VE MAINTAINED OUR ISO RATING OF ONE. ONE IS THE BEST RATING THAT YOU CAN GET. TEN IS THE WORST. AND THE IMPORTANCE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT RATING IS THE FACT THAT IT ALLOWS YOUR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND BUSINESS INSURANCE TO BE CHEAPER. THE SECOND THING THAT WE HAVE, WE'VE PURCHASED A NEW AMBULANCE. 
          NOW WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT. LAST YEAR, THE GRANT WE APPLIED FOR 302. WE GOT THE GRANT. BUT THEN THEY TURNED AROUND AND THEY PULLED IT DUE TO THE ELECTION. SO WE REAPPLIED, BUT I PUT IT IN CAPITAL, I GOT IT, THE AMBULANCE HAS BEEN DELIVERED HERE. WE'RE JUST GETTING IT PAINTED AND STOCKING IT NOW. AND WE REAPPLIED FOR THAT GRANT AND REAPPLYING FOR IT. WE WERE JUST INFORMED THAT IT WAS AWARDED TO US, SO WE'LL BE GETTING AN ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE TWO AMBULANCES HERE IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. AND THE FINAL THING IS, WHICH IS ALSO IMPORTANT, WE WAS AWARDED WE WERE AWARDED $1.7 MILLION. NOW THE $1.7 MILLION IS TO ACTUALLY DO AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE IN MY 31 YEARS HERE IN EAST POINT. NOBODY IN THE METRO AREA HAS ONE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE IN THE TRI CITY AREA. I'M SORRY, EAST POINT COLLEGE PARK HAYFIELD. SO WE'RE GOING TO START RENOVATING. IT'LL BE LOCATED AT THE ANNEX AND IT WAS $1.7 MILLION. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ALFONSO LINDSAY. I AM THE FLEET SUPERINTENDENT HERE FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT. COME NOVEMBER WILL MARK 18 YEARS FOR ME, BEING IN THE CITY, 18 YEARS IN THE FLEET. I STARTED OUT AS AN AUTO MECHANIC AND I WORKED MY WAY UP TO MY CURRENT ROLE. AND IN MY CURRENT ROLE, I OVERSEE A DIVERSE FLEET OF 500 VEHICLES, ANYTHING FROM A WEED EATER TO EARTH, MOVING MACHINERY, POLICE CARS, FIRE TRUCKS, GARBAGE TRUCKS. WE MAINTAIN THAT DAILY HERE IN THE CITY. ONE OF OUR MAJOR ACHIEVEMENTS FOR 2526 IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FUEL MASTER LAB SYSTEM. NOT ONLY DOES THAT HELP US MONITOR OUR FUEL TANKS, BUT IT HELPS US TRACK HOW MUCH EACH ASSET, HOW MUCH FUEL IT CONSUMES. AND WE USE THAT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR BETTER BUDGETING. AND ALSO IT KIND OF HELPS US IN OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CARS ARE RUNNING EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY BY KNOWING HOW MUCH FUEL THEY CONSUME. ADDITIONALLY, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I DO HERE IN THE CITY IS MANAGING THE AUCTION PROCESSES. AND FOR 25 AND 26, WE GENERATED $187,966 THROUGH SURPLUS OF OUR AUCTION PROCEEDS. AND WE PUT THAT BACK INTO THE CITY. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A CLOSE RUNDOWN OF WHAT I DO IN THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SIR. PLEASE. 
          NEXT, I'D LIKE PARKS AND RECREATION TO PLEASE COME UP. ALRIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE PICKETT. I AM YOUR PROUD PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR. ONE OF THE THE STORY 
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THAT I HAVE ON TODAY IS INDICATION OF ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE EVENTS THAT WE DO TODAY. WE HAD AUTISM DAY. WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THAT PROGRAM PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW. WE HAD PROBABLY ABOUT 70 PEOPLE TO ATTEND TODAY. WE PLAYED AMERICAN LEAGUE GAME. WE DID CHILDREN'S YOGA AND SOUND BATH. THEY ALSO DID STEM ACTIVITIES. ALONG WITH THAT THOUGHT IN MIND, WE HAVE IMPROVED A LOT OF OUR PLAY SPACES TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE. 
          MORE RECENTLY, WE HAD THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS PACKED WITH OUR EIGHT NEW GIRLS THAT WON THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN SOME OF THE RECREATIONAL SPACES. AND LASTLY, WE HAVE A FEW RENOVATION PROJECTS. THE ONE THAT'S CLOSEST HERE IS VICTORY PARK. 
          THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED PROBABLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, AND WE ALSO HAVE OTHER FULL RENOVATIONS OF CENTRAL PARK THAT WAS COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND ONE MAJOR PROJECT THAT'S UNDERGONE IS OVER IN WARD C, WHICH IS RHANSON PARK. WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 70% COMPLETED WITH THAT. SOME OF OUR MAJOR FACILITIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL IS THE SPORTS COMPLEX. WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 70% OF OUR ACTIVITIES FOR OUR CHILDREN AND RESIDENTS OUT AT THIS PARTICULAR PARK. WE PLAY BASEBALL THERE, FLAG FOOTBALL, OF COURSE. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE JEFFERSON REC CENTER, WHERE WE RUN ABOUT 30% OF OUR PROGRAMS. MORE RECENTLY, WE RENOVATED THE WEIGHT ROOM. SO GYM MEMBERSHIP IS ON THE RISE HERE IN THE CITY, AND WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS TO KEEP EVERYBODY ACTIVE AND HEALTHY. 
          ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS FOR ME THAT'S ONGOING, OBVIOUSLY, IS THE MULTIPLEX REC CENTER. SO THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY BIGGEST FOCUS POINTS HEADING INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR AND ALSO IMPROVING OUR PLAY SPACES TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE, POOR RUBBER SURFACING, TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH OUR PLAYGROUND SYSTEMS. THAT IS YOUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I'M KIMBERLY SMITH, THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. SO EVERYTHING PLANNING. THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO SUPPORT CORE SERVICE AREAS INCLUDING THE PERMITTING DIVISION, INSPECTIONS DIVISION, BUSINESS LICENSING AND PLANNING AND ZONING. THE DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS CONSISTENT PERMIT PROCESSING AND INSPECTION SCHEDULING WHILE CONTINUING TO MANAGE DAILY WORKFLOW AND SERVICE DEMAND. WE CONTINUE TO MANAGE A STEADY VOLUME OF PERMITTING PLAN, REVIEW AND INSPECTION ACTIVITIES WHILE MAINTAINING CONSISTENT SERVICE DELIVERY. WE HAVE ALSO MADE PROGRESS IN IMPROVING CUSTOMER SERVICE ACCESS TO SERVICES THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, INCLUDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR VIRTUAL CUSTOMER SERVICE COUNTER. ORIGINALLY LAUNCHED DURING COVID TO MAINTAIN SERVICE CONTINUITY AND LATER PRESENTED AS A BEST PRACTICE AT THE 2022 NATIONAL AMERICAN PLANNING CONFERENCE. AND THIS IS FOR CUSTOMERS TO EXPERIENCE PROVIDING SERVICE. I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. LET ME GET MY NOTES TOGETHER. OKAY, I APOLOGIZE. SO AT THE 2022 CUSTOMER SERVICE, AT THE 2022 CUSTOMER SERVICE CONFERENCE FOR PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WE WERE WE WERE ABLE TO PRESENT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CALENDAR. IN ADDITION, THE DEPARTMENT NOW HAS THREE CERTIFIED PERMIT TECHNICIANS, A CERTIFIED ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, AND STRENGTHENING INTERNAL CAPACITY, SUPPORTING MORE EFFICIENT OPERATIONS STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN FACILITATED. THE STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN FACILITATING VIRTUAL PLAN 
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REVIEW DENIAL MEETINGS TO PROVIDE APPLICANTS WITH CLEAR DIRECTION AND SUPPORT TO SUPPORT RESUBMITTAL, IMPROVING OUR OVERALL COMMUNICATION AND PROCESS CLARITY. THE DEPARTMENT FINALIZED AND IS IMPLEMENTING THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY YEARS IN THE CITY. AND SO WE'VE FINALLY BEEN ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND IMPROVE IT. AND IT ALSO SUPPORTS THE IMPROVED COORDINATION ACROSS DEPARTMENTS DURING OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HAVING THE MOU IN PLACE. THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO SERVE A PROJECT MANAGEMENT ROLE AND KEY INITIATIVES, ENSURING COORDINATION, ACCOUNTABILITY AND PROGRESS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS WITH WITH OUR EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS. THE DEPARTMENT HAS COMPLETED INTERVIEWS FOR OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL POSITION, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARD ONBOARDING OUR IN-HOUSE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN OUR INTERNAL OPERATIONS AND SERVICE DELIVERY. THE DEPARTMENT HAS ADVANCED SEVERAL KEY INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE, COMPLETION OF THE WILLINGHAM CORRIDOR STUDY, AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE AGRICULTURE PLAN, A ZONING INITIATIVES, WHICH ALSO RECEIVES 2022 VISIONARY AWARD FROM THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION. STAFF, ALSO COMPLETED A COMMUNITY EDUCATIONAL SERIES LAST SUMMER TO EXPAND OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR OVERALL COMMUNITY WORK RELATED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE REWRITE, WHICH IS WHAT I PASSED OUT TO YOU. IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS WITH OUR CONSULTANTS, THIS GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR INPUT AND YOUR VOICE HEARD WITH THE VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT THAT IS GOING TO TIE ALL OF US TOGETHER WITH THE POLICIES THAT ARE ADOPTED BY THE CITY, WHICH ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY WILL BE YOUR IN YOUR REVIEW AND PURVIEW FOR ULTIMATE, FOR ULTIMATE ADOPTION. AND ALSO RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE REWRITE, WE DID APPROVE THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE 2022 2023 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ESTABLISHES THE CITY'S LONG TERM VISION FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. WHILE THE ZONING ORDINANCES PROVIDE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT GUIDES WHAT WE CAN BUILD AND WHERE WE CAN BUILD TOGETHER, THESE DOCUMENTS AND POLICIES ENSURE THAT THE DAY TO DAY DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS ARE ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S OVERALL GOALS AND FUTURE LAND USE STRATEGIES. SO OVERALL, THE DEPARTMENT REMAINS FOCUSED ON MAINTAINING CONSISTENT OPERATIONS, IMPROVING ACCESS AND SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES ACROSS THE CITY. 
          THANK YOU. DIRECTOR WELLMAN, FROM IT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO. LET'S SAY GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DON WELLMAN. 
          I AM THE IT DIRECTOR. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR. I WANT TO DO THREE THINGS REAL QUICK. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR STRUCTURE. AND I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME METRICS AND THEN FINISH WITH SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS. SO WHEN I FIRST STARTED IT, ORGANIZATION WAS VERY FLAT. EVERYONE REPORTED TO ME THAT WASN'T THE BEST REPORTING STRUCTURE. SO WE ACTUALLY CREATED THREE DISTINCT DEPARTMENTS. THE FIRST DEPARTMENT IS THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE. EVERYTHING WE DO SERVERS, ROUTERS, INTERNET, CYBERSECURITY, THINGS OF THAT SORT JUST TO BUILD OUR DATA CENTER. SECONDARILY, WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT. WE SUPPORT TECHNOLOGY ON A DAILY BASIS. WE RECEIVE ANYWHERE FROM 2000 SUPPORT CALLS A MONTH, AND WE'RE DOING FAIRLY WELL WITH RESOLVING THOSE CALLS. WE HAD LIKE A 92, 93%. WE WANT TO GET THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A THIRD DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEW TO THE CITY. IT'S A WAY WHERE WE CAN CREATE TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS FOR BUSINESS PROBLEMS. I CURRENTLY BOARD A SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER IN, AND EACH DIRECTOR SHOULD HAVE AN ICON ON HIS OR HER DESK TO REQUEST A PROJECT. WHEN THEY DO THAT, IT COMES TO ME. I WILL VET THAT AND PASS IT ON TO ONE OF THREE STAFF MEMBERS TO COMPLETE THOSE PROJECTS. WHAT YOU SEE NOW IS METRICS FOR 2025. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO OF THEM, IF I CAN. THE FIRST ONE IN RED IS OUR NUMBER OF ACTIVE PROJECTS. SO I HAVE FOUR STAFF 
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MEMBERS. WE CURRENTLY ARE WORKING ON 20 PROJECTS AS AS WE SPEAK, WE HAVE 23 ACTUALLY ACTIVE. 23. WE HAVE 20 ON HOLD. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH RIGHT NOW TO COMPLETE THOSE. BUT AS WE FINISH THE PROJECTS THAT'S CURRENTLY ACTIVE, WE WILL CIRCUMVENT THOSE ON HOLD AND START TO WORK ON THOSE. OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT IS A FULL PROJECT MANAGEMENT STAFF. WE DO SCOPES OF WORK, DELIVERABLES, TIMEFRAMES, COSTS, THINGS OF THAT SORT. SO I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE BOUGHT THAT IN-HOUSE. I WANT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE 1.2 HITS ON OUR WEBSITES PER YEAR. THAT'S ABOUT 10,000 A MONTH. THAT'S A BIG DEAL. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT CREATING AN INTRANET WHICH IS INTERNAL ONLY TO STAFF COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, AND IT WILL ALLOW US TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WHEREVER STAFF IS LOCATED. IT'S GOING TO ALSO GIVE HR THE ABILITY TO HAVE COMMON FORMS WORKFLOWS SO WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT REGARDLESS OF WHERE STAFF IS LOCATED. THAT'S A 4 TO 6 MONTH PROCESS. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ROLLING THAT INTO AN OVERALL WEBSITE REDESIGN EFFORT, WHICH WILL TOUCH EVERY FORM, EVERY PAGE, EVERY DEPARTMENT. THE INTRANET IS A 4 TO 6 MONTH EFFORT. THE WEBSITE REDESIGN IS A 9 TO 12 MONTH EFFORT, AND THE WEBSITE REDESIGN WILL BE ADA COMPLIANT. WE. WE WERE FORTUNATE THAT WE ARE UNDER 50,000 RESIDENTS, SO OUR DELIVERABLE DATE IS APRIL 2027. AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE HOUSE ON. THAT MAY. IS IT ALL JUST IN CASE YOU WANT TO. YOU KNOW. THANKS. THANK YOU. ATTORNEY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I WANT TO FINISH UP WITH OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. YOU SEE HERE WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED PROJECTS IN FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS. IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE STABILIZING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DON'T WANT THE OUTAGES. WE'RE PUTTING IN BACKUP SYSTEMS, AND WE'RE DOING THINGS TO GET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE STABILIZED. OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WILL IDENTIFY WHERE WE UPGRADE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE CAPACITY. AS WE DO THE WEBSITE REDESIGN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO THAT. WE DID A PROJECT FOR THE CITY. YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT WE REPLACED 400 PHONES ALONG WITH PHONE NUMBERS. THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT I MANAGED MYSELF. AND THEN WE'RE HELPING POLICE. POLICE. THEY'RE OUR LARGEST TECHNOLOGY CUSTOMER. THEY HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY OVER THERE. WE HELPED THEM WITH THE NINE ONE, ONE CENTER, AS WELL AS THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER AND THE DRONE PROGRAM. I THINK THEY JUST FINISHED PHASE ONE OF THE DRONE PROGRAM. THEY'RE WORKING ON PHASE TWO. SO WE'LL STAY WITH THEM UNTIL THE DRONE PROGRAM IS IS COMPLETED AND ALL THAT TECHNOLOGY IS FULLY INTEGRATED. 
          WE HELP THE WATER DEPARTMENT BY SETTING UP TECHNOLOGY FOR THE WATER PLANT OFFICE RENOVATION. 
          AND WE FINALLY HELP FLEET WITH THEIR FUEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM INSTALLATION. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. PLEASE COME. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M SEAN BUCHANAN, POLICE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF EAST POINT POLICE DEPARTMENT. BE VERY BRIEF TODAY. SO WE'RE COMING OFF IN TERMS OF PART ONE PART TWO CRIMES. THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR IN A ROW. WE HAVE DECREASED CRIME RATES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, ONE IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THAT IS OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. WE STARTED AT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, IS FINISHED. 
          FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL CAMERAS TO THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER THIS FRIDAY, THE THIRD FROM 2 P.M. TO 5 P.M. I'M GOING TO SEND AN EMAIL OUT. I'M INVITING ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME AND VISIT OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER AND SEE HOW OUR DRONES OPERATE AND SEE WHAT TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M GOING TO SEND AN EMAIL OUT FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING. I THINK IF YOU CAN MAKE IT, I THINK YOU'LL BE VERY SURPRISED WITH THE AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE. I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE VERY TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN AND EQUIPPED. WE PROBABLY HAVE, FOR A CITY OUR SIZE, ONE OF THE BEST CRIME CENTERS IN THE COUNTRY. I'M. I'M SAYING THAT TRUTHFULLY, OUR 901 CENTER WENT WITH ABOUT A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR RENOVATION. SO YOU ALL SHOULD BE ADDED TO OUR NEW 911 CENTER AS WELL. AS YOU SEE OUR MISSION STATEMENT. AND YOU CAN ASK ANY POLICE OFFICER WHAT OUR 
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MISSION STATEMENT IS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE BEAT INTO OUR OFFICER'S HEADS, IS TO PROVIDE A SAFE COMMUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS TO FLOURISH AND OUR BUSINESSES TO PROSPER. THAT IS OUR GOAL AND THAT IS OUR GOAL. IF IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, ASK ANY OFFICER, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WORK FOR. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, JUST LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU. PUBLIC WORKS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M JEFFREY REEVES, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. I'VE BEEN HERE IN THIS CITY OF EAST POINT ROUGHLY 18 YEARS. BEEN IN THE DIRECTOR'S ROLE ABOUT 12 YEARS. JUST GOING TO TALK TODAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. SOME ARE A FEW OF OUR ACHIEVEMENTS IN FY 26. THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CONSISTS OF FIVE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS. WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION, WHICH IS OUR DIRECTORS, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DIVISION, WHICH OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DIVISION. 
          THEY MAINTAIN ALL THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES AND BUILDINGS, ALL YOUR CITY RIGHT OF WAYS. 
          YOU HAVE RECONSTRUCTION, ROADS AND DRAINAGE. THAT'S OUR CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT. THEY BUILD, THEY WORK ON ALL THE SIDEWALKS, POTHOLE REPAIR, STREET SIGNS. THEN WE HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION DIVISION, WHICH IS THE DIVISION THAT HANDLES ALL OUR GRANTS THAT WE WORK THROUGH, ALL OUR GRANTS FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. THEY HANDLE ALL THE PROJECTS WHEN IT COMES TO PAVING AND RESURFACING. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR FIELD PROGRAMS DIVISION, WHICH IS A DIVISION THAT HANDLES OUR SEASONAL LEAF COLLECTION, OUR LEGAL DUMPING, AND OUR LITTER PATROL. IN THE SLIDE, YOU SEE THERE'S OUR TRANSPORTATION DIVISION. WE HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT WE COMPLETED THIS FY 26. YOU SEE THE RESURFACING ON WASHINGTON ROAD IN NORTH COMMERCE. YOU SEE THE COST OF THAT WAS ABOUT 3.9 MILLION. WE COMPLETED THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET AND ON SCHEDULE. WE HAVE THE RESURFACING PROJECT ON STANTON ROAD, WHICH IS A 1.1 MEAL. WE COMPLETED THAT WITHIN BUDGET ON SCHEDULE. THEN THE SILVER ROAD, $340,000 SIDEWALK PROJECT, AND THEN WE HAVE A SIDEWALK PROJECT ON DOBSON DRIVE. WE NOT ALL OUR PROJECTS ARE ALWAYS ON SCHEDULE. WE TRY TO MEET THE SCHEDULE AS BEST AS WE CAN. WE WORK WITH THE VENDORS TO TRY TO MAKE THEM PRODUCE A GOOD PRODUCT FIRST. THEN WE MAKE SURE WE TRY TO MEET THE TIMELINES. SOME OF OUR PAVEMENT GROUPS THAT WE HAVE ARE WE HAVE ABOUT PAVEMENT GROUP ONE, WHERE WE DID JUST LAST LAST YEAR, AWARDS A, WE DID NINE MILES RESURFACING PAVEMENT GROUP B, APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILES RESURFACING. THAT'S. SOME HAVE SOME THAT WAS ON HELEN DRIVE NEAR PAUL D WEST ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE HAVE A PAVEMENT GROUP NUMBER C. 
          WE DID ABOUT 13 MILES OF RESURFACING, PRIMARILY IN WARD D WE HAVE SOME G DOT RESURFACING PROJECTS, 7.6 MILES. THAT WAS WASHINGTON ROAD NORTH COMMERCE AND CENTER PARK. NEW SIDEWALKS, DOCKS AND DRIVE SYLVAN ROAD, SOUTH SIDE. WE DID TWO MILES OF SIDEWALK. WE MAINTAIN ABOUT 14.5 MILES OF ROADS WITHIN THE CITY OF EAST POINT BASED ON AND ALSO BASED ON G. DOT'S INFORMATION, WE HAVE ABOUT 54 TO 55 INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY. 
          MOST OF OUR FUNDING WHERE GENERAL FUNDED, WE GET A LOT OF MONEY FROM T SPLASH, WHICH IS OUR TRANSPORTATION FUNDS THAT SOMETIMES ROUTES AROUND ABOUT 6.5 MILLION. WE BRING IN A YEAR. 
          WE USUALLY USE IT EACH YEAR, AND THEN WE HAVE GRANTS THAT COME FROM GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. AND THAT'S MINE FOR TODAY. THANK YOU. SOLID WASTE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ROBERT WYATT, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE. I'M PROUD TO SPEAK ABOUT MY TEAM AND I AND SOLID WASTE AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THE COMMUNITY. IN MY ROLE, I OVERSEE THE PLANNING OPERATION AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT OF SOLID WASTE SERVICES THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL COLLECTIONS, ROUTE OPTIMIZATION, RECYCLING PROGRAMS, ENSURING WE MEET ENVIRONMENTAL AND REGULATORY STANDARDS. ONE OF MY ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAS BEEN IMPROVING EFFICIENCY ACROSS OUR COLLECTION ROUTES, MAKING SURE SERVICES ARE RELIABLE WHILE ALSO BEING COST CONSCIOUS. I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH TEAMS AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO EVALUATE ROUTES, CHANGES, COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL WARDS AND ENSURE THAT ANY ADJUSTMENT REFLECTS THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE WE SERVE. THAT 
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COLLABORATION HELPED BUILD TRUST AND MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS. I'VE ALSO PLAYED A ROLE IN ADVANCING OUR LONG TERM PLANNING EFFORTS, INCLUDING CONTRIBUTING TO ONGOING RATE STUDIES TO ENSURE OUR SYSTEM REMAINS SUSTAINABLE, FAIR AND TRANSPARENT FOR RESIDENTS. MY FOCUS ALWAYS HAS BEEN BALANCING QUALITY SERVICE WITH FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. BEYOND OPERATIONS, I AM COMMITTED TO IMPROVING CUSTOMER SERVICE AND RESPONSIVENESS, WHETHER IT'S ADDRESSING MIS COLLECTION, EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON RECYCLING, OR FINDING SOLUTIONS TO SERVICE CHALLENGES. I BELIEVE IN BEING PROACTIVE AND ACCOUNTABLE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOLID WASTE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST COLLECTION. IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, AND COMMUNITY PRIDE. I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT MISSION AND TO CONTINUE IMPROVING THE SERVICE OUR RESIDENTS DEPEND ON. THANK YOU. OUR LAST PRESENTER, DIRECTOR FOR WATER AND SEWER. GOOD AFTERNOON. OKAY, SO OUR PRIORITY FOR THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT IS DRINKING WATER COMPLIANCE, SANITARY SEWER COMPLIANCE AND STORMWATER COMPLIANCE. THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FOUR WATER STORAGE TANKS, THREE RESERVOIRS, 3755 WATER VALVES, 1529 FIRE HYDRANTS, 162 MILES OF WATER LINE IN THE CITY, 22 MILES OF WATER LINES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 200 MILES OF SANITARY SEWER LINES, 3300 SEWER MANHOLES AND 15 MILES OF STORMWATER CONVEYANCE. THIS YEAR, FY 26, WE APPLIED FOR AND WERE AWARDED $1,250,000 FOR PFAS FILTERS FROM THE CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING. THIS WILL SUPPORT ALL RESIDENTS CITYWIDE. THIS WAS SUPPORTED BY OUR SENATORS AND OUR CONGRESS. PEOPLE. ALSO. WARNOCK AND MCBATH. THIS YEAR AS WELL. WE RECEIVED $1,092,000 FOR THE NORMAN BERRY DRIVE STORMWATER REPLACEMENT PROJECT THAT ALSO WAS SUPPORTED THROUGH OUR SENATORS AND OUR CONGRESS, OSSOFF, WARNOCK, WILLIAMS AND MCBATH. THAT PROJECT WILL PROVIDE STORMWATER REPAIRS FOR FLOODING AND SINKHOLES IN THE NORMAN BERRY AREA. IN FISCAL YEAR 24, WE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED $1.6 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT. THIS EQUIPMENT WILL INCLUDE GENERATORS FOR OUR PUMPING STATION ACTUATORS AND CLEAR WELLS. THIS WAS ALSO SUPPORTED BY OUR SENATORS AND OUR CONGRESS PEOPLE, OSSOFF, WARNOCK AND WILLIAMS. THIS PROJECT STARTED LAST YEAR IN 2025 AND WILL BE COMPLETED BY JANUARY 2027. WE APPLIED FOR A CITY MATCHING FUND FORGIVENESS IN THE AMOUNT OF $400,000, AND THAT FEE WAS WAIVED IN FISCAL YEAR 24. WE APPLIED FOR AND WERE AWARDED $1.6 MILLION FOR A WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO REPLACE ONE MILE OF WATER LINE ON WINBURN DRIVE IN WARD B. 
          THIS PROJECT WILL ENTAIL NOT ONLY NEW SERVICE LINE CONNECTIONS, NEW HYDRANTS, WATER VALVES AS WELL, AND THIS WILL REPLACE THE WATER LINES FROM HARRIS STREET TO JEFFERSON AVE. CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN APRIL 2026 WITH A SIX MONTH CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE. AGAIN, THIS FUNDING WAS SUPPORTED BY OSSOFF, WARNOCK AND WILLIAMS AS WELL. WE APPLIED FOR A FUNDING MATCH FORGIVENESS AND WE. OUR $400,000 CITY MATCH WAS WAIVED. WE HAVE AN ONGOING SEWER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $3.8 MILLION. 2 MILLION OF THE FUNDING IS FOR FUND FUNDED, EXCUSE ME, THROUGH GEORGIA ENVIRONMENTAL FINANCE AUTHORITY. THE REMAINING $1.8 MILLION WILL COME FROM THE MUNICIPAL OPTION SALES TAX. THE SURVEYS FOR THIS PROJECT WERE COMPLETED THIS WEEK. THE TOTAL PROJECT IS 2.34 ACRES AND WHEN INCLUDE A COMPLETE SEWER LINE REPLACEMENT AND REHAB ON THE FOLLOWING STREETS SYLVAN ROAD, PLANT STREET, DAUPHIN STREET, DUNLAP AVE AND PEARL STREET AND RURAL WARDS. EXCUSE ME, A AND B. WE ALSO WILL WILL BE COMPLETING A REHAB AND REPAIR OF 48 SEWER MANHOLES IN THE CITY. CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND WILL LAST UP TO SIX MONTHS. THE BEN HILL RESERVOIR REPAIR PROGRAM IS ALSO FUNDED BY GEORGIA ENVIRONMENTAL FINANCE AUTHORITY AND LOANS WE'VE RECEIVED IN 
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2021. THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO BE FITTED OUT IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, AND CONSTRUCTION WILL START IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. AND THE COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT IS IN THREE MONTHS. 
          THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WATERLINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT, IN THE AMOUNT OF $15 MILLION WAS AWARDED TO THE CITY. THE CITY SO FAR HAS APPROVED THE DRAFT CONTRACT FOR REVIEW. THE FINAL CONTRACT WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN APRIL AND OR MAY WORK SESSION. THIS PROGRAM WAS SPONSORED BY THE DEVELOPMENT FROM OSSOFF, WARNOCK AND WILLIAMS THROUGH WHAT THEY DEEM IS EAST POINT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ACT. THIS IS SUCH A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT TO ACHIEVE BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER CITY TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THIS FEDERAL ALLOTMENT WAS THE CITY OF ATLANTA. AT THE TIME OF ACCEPTANCE. THERE IS A $200,000 CITY MATCH, AND THIS PROJECT WILL SPAN 2 TO 3 YEARS. WE ALSO CONTINUOUSLY APPLY FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING, AND IN 2025, WE COMPLETED THE NEW WATERLINE REPLACEMENT OF WEST CLEVELAND. 
          AND WE'RE WAITING THE NEW ALLOTMENT THAT WILL REPLACE WEST CLEVELAND, EXCUSE ME, WASHINGTON ROAD AND JONES STREET. THE CITY OF EAST POINT WATER RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WAS PRESENTED AS A WHOLE DEPARTMENT WITH THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS GOLD AWARD FOR DISTRIBUTION EXCELLENCE IN 2024 AND 2025. THIS IS ALSO SUCH A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT AS THE CITY. LAST RECOGNITION WAS IN 2013. SO I HAVE GOOD NEWS AND I JUST SHARED THIS. SO YESTERDAY WE CONFIRMED THAT THE CITY OF EAST POINT WATER TREATMENT PLANT AS A DIVISION WILL BE HONORED WITH THE PRESTIGIOUS GOLD AWARD AT THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION WATER PROFESSIONALS CONFERENCE IN DALTON, GEORGIA ON APRIL 8TH OF THIS YEAR. THE GEORGIA ASSOCIATION OF WATER PROFESSIONALS GOLD AWARD IS THE HIGHEST RECOGNITION IN THE STATE'S WATER INDUSTRY. IT IS PRESENTED TO WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES THAT MAINTAIN FLAWLESS OPERATIONAL RECORDS AND INCUR ZERO PERMIT VIOLATIONS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR. THIS DISTINCTION REFLECTS AN EXCEPTIONAL LEVEL OF DEDICATION, OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE, AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC HEALTH. AWARD RECIPIENT RECIPIENTS ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR TRANSPARENCY, REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, AND EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. EACH YEAR, EAST POINT WATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATORS AND LABORATORY ANALYSIS COLLECTED ANALYZED OVER 150,000 WATER SAMPLES. THESE SAMPLES ARE RIGOROUSLY TESTED AND REPORTED TO THE GEORGIA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DIVISION TO ENSURE ALL COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND FEDERAL DRINKING WATER STANDARDS. MAINTAINING THIS LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE IS NO SMALL FEAT. JUST ONE SINGLE OUT-OF-RANGE SAMPLE CAN RESULT IN DISQUALIFYING A FACILITY FROM THE GOLD AWARD. 
          ELIGIBILITY. RECEIVING THIS GOLD AWARD IS A TESTAMENT TO THE DEDICATION, PROFESSIONALISM AND TEAMWORK OF THE PLANT OPERATORS. OUR LABORATORY ANALYSIS, MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL, AND MANAGEMENT STAFF. THEIR COLLECTIVE EFFORTS ENSURE THE CONTINUED DELIVERY OF SAFE DRINKING WATER TO OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I'D LIKE TO ASK ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO COME BACK UP, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, BECAUSE THE THING THAT I HOPE YOU ALL CAUGHT THAT RESONATES IS THE INTERSECTIONALITY BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS. EVERYBODY IS DEPENDENT UPON ONE ANOTHER. AND I APPRECIATE AND I'M REALLY. I THANK EACH OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION TODAY, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR Y'ALL. THANK YOU. 
          SO. FOR JUST FURTHER QUESTIONS, LET'S GO WITH THE ORDER. STORM OUT. OKAY, THROW HIM OUT, THROW HIM OUT, THROW HIM OUT. YEAH. I'M OUT. YEAH. GO TO CHURCH. RIGHT NOW. 
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WHAT IS THAT? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN TERMS OF BUDGET, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGY? BECAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S TAKING THE CITY A LONG TIME TO TRACK DOWN DOCUMENTS AND ENSURE DIGITAL. CORRECT? GREAT QUESTION. COUNCILMAN. THE ACTUAL. LET'S SAY, PLATFORM THAT WE UTILIZE RIGHT NOW IS CONTRACT WORKS. IT IS IT HOUSES ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS, ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS AND ALSO ROUTES THE PROBLEM OF SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED CONTRACT WORKS. SO WHEN WE GOT CONTRACT WORKS, WE TOOK ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND DUMPED IT INTO CONTRACT WORKS. SO IT'S DEPENDING ON HOW IT WAS PREVIOUSLY FILED DURING THAT TIME. SO WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH SEARCHING FOR SOMETHING, SOMETHING WAS OFF BY A LETTER, SOME KIND OF KEY, WHATEVER, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THOSE DOCUMENTS. AND THAT'S ANYTHING PREVIOUS OR PRIOR TO 2022. SO PRIOR TO THAT TIME, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO WE'VE TRACKED DOWN A LOT OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, BUT IF IT WAS NOT FILED CORRECTLY BY THE VENDOR'S NAME OR THE SOLICITATION TYPE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT IN A KEY SEARCH TO FIND THOSE DOCUMENTS. BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST I HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER THAT'S WORKING ON WHAT THEY CALL OCR WITHIN A COMPUTER PROGRAM, SOFTWARE LIKE THAT. AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT RECOGNIZES CERTAIN WORDS. SO WHEN THESE WORDS ARE PUT IN, IT CAN ACTUALLY POPULATE ANY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE THOSE WORDS IN IT. SO THANK YOU. MY QUESTION WAS FOR. REQUIREMENTS. WHEN YOU'RE SELECTING SOMEONE TO COME INTO THE CITY AND WORK, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT TO SELECT THE LOWEST BIDDER? I THINK THAT THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE HOUSING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT WE USED TO LIVE THERE. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, DO WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES FROM OUR SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING QUALITY WORK OR SO? SO YOUR QUESTION IS FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOLICITATIONS THAT WE HAVE. THE FIRST ONE IS THE ITB. WHEN WE'RE DOING ITB, WE'RE MOSTLY YOUR CONSTRUCTION WORK. THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE LOWEST BIDDER, RIGHT? WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL QUALITY OF WORK, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING UP FOR EVERY, EVERY SOLICITATION, BUT YOUR SERVICES IS WHERE WE DO AN RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. 
          SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT THE COST AS MUCH AS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THIS COMPANY CAN BRING, YOU KNOW, DO FOR THE CITY, THE QUALIFICATIONS AND THEIR SUCH. 
          BUT MOST OF THE TIMES WHEN WE DO THE ITB, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE ENGINEERS DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE ENGINEERS ON DECK WHERE THEY'LL DETERMINE, HEY, THIS IS THE, THE APPROPRIATE COST FOR THAT EQUIPMENT. THIS IS APPROPRIATE COST FOR THAT EQUIPMENT. AND THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO FIND THE BEST PERSON FOR THAT AS WELL AS ACTUALLY RECENTLY WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME VENDORS THAT HAVE BEEN DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE BECAUSE THEY'VE COME SO LOW, RIGHT, THAT THAT THE ENGINEERS ON DECK OR THAT WE'VE HIRED SAID THERE'S NO WAY THE WORLD THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET THIS PROJECT DONE AT THAT AMOUNT. SO WE'RE COVERING ALL BASES, NOT JUST BY FOLLOWING PROCUREMENT LAWS, BUT WE'RE ALSO TURN AROUND AND BACK CHECKING OUT WITH ENGINEERS AND SUCH. YOU FOR SELECTING THE RIGHT PERSON. 
          OH ABSOLUTELY NOT, ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD 85 THAT IS, IS THERE A ASK FOR COUNCIL POLICY. SO. RESOURCES THERE. AS FOR US. SO I DO HAVE A ASK. AND I DON'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BLINDSIDE THE CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL AND CITY MANAGER. BUT WE'VE WE'VE BROUGHT THIS UP TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ALPHONSO FLEET AND OURSELVES. MY ASK IS FOR THAT FLEET BE TREATED LIKE THE WAREHOUSE. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE WAREHOUSE IS NOT HELD TO THE SOLICITATION PROCESS. RIGHT. SO BECAUSE THE WAREHOUSE IS PROVIDING FOR THE CITY, ONLY THE CITY DEPARTMENTS. SO THAT'S THE SAME THING FOR OUR FLEET DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE ONLY PROVIDING FOR LIKE IF SOMEONE FROM POLICE NEEDS BROKE DOWN VEHICLE, THEY'RE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES. SO IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR THAT DEPARTMENT TO ACTUALLY GET, LET'S SAY, THREE QUOTES FROM A. YEAH, A SOMEWHAT WHATEVER SHOP. AND IT'S THESE GUYS, THOSE SHOPS DON'T REALLY GET TOGETHER AND SAYING, HEY, HERE'S THE THREE QUOTE. THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE. SO WE HAVE A 
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DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN FALLING WITHIN THAT PROCUREMENT RULE OF LAW. AND IT'S ACTUALLY DELAYING A LOT OF THE OPERATIONS FROM THAT SIDE. SO IN THIS CASE, WE'LL BE ADDING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE THAT THE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING, LIKE I SAID, TALKING WITH LEGAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO ASK THAT FLEET OPERATES LIKE THE WAREHOUSE WHERE THEY'RE NOT HELD UNDER PROCUREMENT RULES AND LAWS. ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN OUR CITY ASSETS. DO YOU HAVE THE. AND I THINK THERE'S ALSO IS THERE A. I KNOW YOU NEED THE INVENTORY OF THE. QUESTION. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE INVENTORY OF THE ASSETS AND ALL OF OUR ASSETS THAT WE HAVE ARE BEING MAINTAINED AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, AND LIKE HOW YOUR DEPARTMENTS WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ASSETS ARE PROCEEDINGS IN THE CITY. IF I ANSWER THIS CORRECTLY, I BELIEVE MOSTLY WE WORK WITH FINANCE WHO HANDLES ALL OUR CITY ASSETS. SO EACH YEAR THAT WE EACH BUDGET YEAR THAT GOES AROUND, THEY FINANCE GOES THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE WE START EVALUATING OUR CITY ASSETS AND WE START LISTING THOSE ASSETS AS WELL. AND THEN WE PROVIDE IT TO THEM SO THEY CAN GET AN ACCURATE COUNT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR ASSETS. I THINK JUST THIS PAST YEAR, THEY JUST THEY BROUGHT IN A COMPANY, IF I'M THAT THAT MAY HAVE DID A LITTLE EXPLORING OF A MORE IN DEPTH OF THE ASSETS. 
          SO YOU GUYS ARE COMING IN AT THE RIGHT TIME BECAUSE NOW YOU SHOULD HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF HOW OUR ASSETS REALLY ARE. SO AND IT'S COMING THROUGH FINANCE. AND THEN IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE AN ICU ASSETS THAT WE HAVE? WELL, THERE'S THERE'S CERTAIN DIFFERENT CRITERIAS THAT WE USE IN REFERENCE TO VEHICLES. WE DO YEARS OF SERVICE, ENGINE USE, MILEAGE, AND THEN WE TRY TO JUSTIFY HOW WE REPLACE THOSE VEHICLES. OR SOMETIMES PEOPLE USE VEHICLES A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MIGHT BE HANDED DOWN TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WHO DOESN'T USE VEHICLES AS HARD AS THOSE VEHICLES. SO WE TRY TO GET THAT AS WELL. SO BETWEEN THAT PROCESS OF KEEPING TRACK OF THE AGES, THE YEARS AND THE THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF THE EQUIPMENT IS WHAT WE RATE THEM ON. YES, MA'AM. YES. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO USE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT WE HAVE BEEN BUDGETED FOR 100 PEOPLE. RIGHT NOW
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