[I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]
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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE EAST POINT REGULAR MEETING.
COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING THIS EVENING. APRIL 20TH, 2026.
MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING IS IS PRESENT VIA ZOOM. COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER.
ATKINS. PRESENT. COUNCIL. MEMBER. ZIEGLER. COUNCIL MEMBER.
CUMMINGS. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. PRESENT.
COUNCIL. MEMBER. CALDWELL. PRESENT. COUNCIL. MEMBER.
MARTIN. ROGERS. PRESENT. MAYOR. CHAPMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
WE JUST NEED TO HAVE ON RECORD THAT THE VOTES OR ANYTHING THAT COMES IN VIA ZOOM IS IF IT'S ALLOWED, WE JUST NEED CONFIRMATION ON THAT IF WE COULD.
OKAY, SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE CAN GET CONFIRMATION ON THAT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO, MAYOR, THE GEORGIA LEGISLATURE PASSED AN AMENDMENT KIND OF AFTER COVID, TO ALLOW THE PARTICIPATION OF A MEMBER OF AN AGENCY BY TELECONFERENCE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ZOOM FOR FOR LIMITED REASONS, THOSE REASONS BEING FOR HEALTH OR FOR ABSENCE FROM THE JURISDICTION.
SO AS LONG AS THE MEMBER IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE IN PERSON BECAUSE OF HEALTH REASONS OR ABSENCE FROM THE JURISDICTION, AND THERE ALSO MUST BE A QUORUM PRESENT IN PERSON, THEN THE MEMBER IS ALLOWED BY THE UPDATED GEORGIA STATUTE TO PARTICIPATE BY TELECONFERENCE. SO IT'S SUBJECT TO ONE OF THOSE REASONS.
I'M NOT AWARE OF THE REASON FOR THE PARTICIPATION REMOTELY.
AND THEN IT APPEARS OTHERWISE THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT IN PERSON.
VOTES COUNTED FOR THAT PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER.
YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO FOR TONIGHT'S INVOCATION IT WAS POSTED AS PASTOR CLARK FROM SAINT PAUL MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
HOWEVER, IT WILL BE FOR PASTOR MOSLEY FROM VICTORY BAPTIST CHURCH FIRST.
MOSLEY. MY APOLOGIES. APOLOGIES. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PLEDGE OF THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG.
AND TONIGHT'S SERGEANT OF ARMS IS CAPTAIN ROBERTSON, SO THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
LET US PRAY. WE ARE BLESSED BEYOND NUMBERS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN COUNT THEM ALL. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
WE COME HERE GATHERED AS CITIZENS AND CUSTOMERS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
AND WE PRAY FOR THIS CITY. MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL AND ESPECIALLY THE CITY EMPLOYEES.
BLESS THEM ALL AS THEY SEEK TO DO THE WORK OF REPRESENTING US.
IN THY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN.
[V. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS - Capt. Robinson]
TONIGHT. SERGEANT OF ARMS IS CAPTAIN ROBINSON.[VI. ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA]
MADAM MAYOR. YES, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.I'M SORRY, I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE AN ITEM.
HAS TO HAVE A MOTION. OKAY. I HAVE A I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE MY ITEM NUMBER 20.
SO MOTION ON THE FLOOR. MAKE THE MOTION. WHAT IS YOUR MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER SIX.
26. THAT'S NOT THE MOST. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE.
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BUT YOU WANT TO. YES. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF NUMBER 26. IS THAT THE MOTION? IS THERE A MOTION? THE MOTION. I MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.BUT I UNDERSTAND, MADAM MAYOR, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE NUMBER 26 REMOVED.
YES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE MY MOTION AND THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION.
YES, YES. THE ATTORNEY IS SHAKING HIS HEAD. YES.
OKAY. FOR DISCUSSION. YEAH. I'M ABOUT TO SAY TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 26.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED. YOU HAVE TO ASK.
OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION? SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
GO AHEAD. GO FOR IT. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. AND I LIKE TO GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. I'M IN TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER SIX FROM THE AGENDA.
AND I'M ALSO IN TO REMOVE. ITEM NUMBER 24 FROM THE AGENDA AND ITEM NUMBER 25 FROM THE AGENDA.
MOVING ITEM NUMBER 24 TO A TO OUR NEXT WORK SESSION WHICH WOULD BE IN MAY.
MADAM MAYOR. I'M IN TO ADD BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.
AFTER APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES.
OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS? COUNCILMAN MITCHELL.
OH I DIDN'T MEAN TO HAVE MY MIC ON, BUT SINCE IT IS I THOUGHT WE JUST APPROVED THE AGENDA.
I GUESS MY INTERPRETATION OF THE VOTE WAS TO ALLOW THE DISCUSSION TO OCCUR.
THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SUGGESTED TO REMOVE THREE ADDITIONAL ITEMS. AND SO I'M UNCERTAIN TO BE HONEST, IF A VOTE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TAKEN ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA.
SO THE CAN WE HAVE THE CITY CLERK CONFIRM THAT THE VOTE WAS CONFIRMED TO MOVE THE AGENDA? I MEAN, I'M SORRY TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 26. COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SECONDED.
BUT SHE ALSO ADDED TO MOVE ITEM SIX, 24 AND 25.
GOTCHA. BUT I THINK OUR CALL FOR THE VOTE TO APPROVE AS IS.
SO, COUNCIL, CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS GIVEN TO BY THE ADOPTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM 26. AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO YOUR ITEMS. COUNCIL. COUNCILWOMAN. MARTIN ROGERS WE CAN MAYBE TABLE YOURS AND THEN FOR YOURS COUNCILWOMAN.
CALDWELL YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
I SAID YOU CAN ALSO USUALLY WE MAKE OUR APPOINTMENTS DURING COUNCIL COMMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY NEEDED TO ADD THAT.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT IN THE PAST, SO I JUST. OKAY.
SO I HAD A PRETTY LENGTHY COUNCIL. OKAY. COUNCIL COMMENTS.
I WANTED TO ADD IT SEPARATELY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION AFTER COMMENT.
I CAN YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
[VII. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES]
FOR FROM APRIL 6TH, 2026. IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR?[00:10:06]
YES. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETINGS FOR APRIL 6TH, 2026 AT 6:30 P.M..THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. THE COUNCIL MINUTES FROM APRIL 6TH HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
MADAM MAYOR? YES. MAY I MAKE THE MOTION NOW? YES.
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OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ADD BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS TO THE AGENDA.YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO. TO A POINT. GO AHEAD.
SO YOUR MOTION WOULD BE TO APPOINT TO DO THE FULL APPOINTMENT.
NOW THIS THE APPOINT. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DOUGAN DEP PAXTON TO THE CULTURAL ENRICHMENT BOARD. HE IS AN AWARD WINNING FILMMAKER AND CREATIVE DIRECTOR WITH OVER 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN MEDIA AND CULTURAL PROGRAMING AS A THREE YEAR EASTPOINTE RESIDENT.
SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ANY DISCUSSION? I SHOULDN'T CALL FOR THIS.
OKAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF THE.
[VIII.1. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Zoning Application P2026RZ-001-02 Request to Rezone Property Located at 3005 Semmes St from R-1A (Urban Residential) Zoning District to R-T (Residential Townhome) Zoning District]
AGENDA. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.OKAY. MISS, DO WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING RULES THAT YOU CAN READ FOR US? PLEASE? THANK YOU. I'LL READ THEM FOR YOU. THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE FOR ZONING HEARINGS, AND THERE'LL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ARE SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING RULES. PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING.
STAFF WILL THEN BE CALLED UPON TO PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUMMARIZE THE STAFF REPORTS WRITTEN PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT WILL THEN BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES.
BY MAJORITY VOTE, THE COUNCIL MAY INCREASE THE TOTAL TIME FOR SPEAKERS PROVIDED FOR EACH SIDE.
GIVEN THAT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME IS ALLOCATED FOR EACH SIDE, THERE.
SPEAKERS MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING.
EACH SPEAKER SHALL PRCHAL IDENTIFY HIM OR HERSELF AND STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS.
EACH SPEAKER SHALL SPEAK ONLY TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DECISION.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REFUSE A SPEAKER THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE IF, AFTER FIRST BEING CAUTIONED, THE SPEAKER CONTINUES TO VIOLATE THE RULES OF DECORUM.
THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. DIRECTOR SMITH, YOU CAN START, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND PHILIP COUNCIL.
KIMBERLY SMITH, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, ALONG WITH MR. LEE KELLY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM.
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3005 SIMS STREET. PROJECT NUMBER KNOWN AS P2026RZ, THAT'S 001-02.
THE APPLICANT IS SHARIFA JACKSON, THE OWNER IS DEUCE HOMES LLC.
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AS YOU SEE ON THE MAP ABOVE, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE HIGHLIGHTED BLUE ON THE CORNER OF WEST TAYLOR AND SIMS STREET, AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED R-1. A. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY IS REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS YOU SEE, IT'S SURROUNDED BY REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE CATEGORIES.FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MAP ALONG WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE CATEGORY IS ALSO IN A DESIGNATED AREA FOR OUR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT LCI STUDY AREA, WHICH PROVIDES FOR ADDITIONAL DENSITY REQUIREMENTS.
I'LL READ THEM FOR THE RECORD. COMPLIANCE WITH PLANS THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM TO THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION, WITH THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL AND FINAL ADJUSTMENTS.
CONDITION NUMBER TWO LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX, LANDSCAPE, REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITION NUMBER THREE SHALL GO THROUGH AN INFILL PROCESS AS OUTLINED IN ARTICLE J. ALTHOUGH THESE ARE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. AND I SEE THAT I READ THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THE SAME. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO I'M SORRY.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IS THERE A DO WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FOR FOR THOSE FOR OR AGAINST? CORRECT. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT. OH, SORRY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR THIS? PROPONENTS? FOR THIS. THANK YOU. OKAY. I JUST REQUESTED DEFERRAL.
OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE OPPOSED TO THE ITEM? OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CASE NUMBER P 2026, R AS IN ROBERT, Z AS IN ZEBRA DASH 001-02. FOR THE ADDRESS 3005 SIMS STREET.
SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN A PUBLIC. MADAM MAYOR, I ALSO MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S AND THE APPLICANT'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DEFERRAL.
WITHOUT OBJECTION. THERE'S A SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.
THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE ANOTHER
[VIII.2. City Initiated Zoning Case# P2025RZ-002-10]
CASE. IN REFERENCE TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING, IT IS.A PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS A CITY INITIATED REZONING LOCATED AT 2418 MOLATE STREET, KNOWN AS CASE NUMBER P 2025, R Z AND DASH 002 AND ONE ZERO. IT IS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH CASE NUMBER P 2026, Z-001-01. THIS IS A CITY INITIATED REZONING. THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 0.859 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, AND THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS THE CITY, IS WHICH IS REQUESTING TO REZONE AND ZONE ZONING DISTRICT PROPERTY TO CL COMMERCIAL LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT. THE CURRENT ZONING MAP SHOWS THE PARCEL IS SURROUNDED BY I ONE
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ON ON THE NORTH WITH R1A ON THE EAST SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THERE IS A PORTION OF IT THAT IS ALSO ADJACENT TO A C2C ZONED PROPERTY. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A IN THE TOWN CENTER SUBAREA ONE LAND USE CATEGORY, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED CENTER COMMUNITY, INCLUDING HISTORIC CULTURE, BUSINESS AND NEIGHBORHOOD TYPES OF LAND USES.THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT IT IS ADJACENT AND BOUNDED BY A RAILROAD, A UTILITY, A OVERPASS, AS WELL AS SEVERAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.
STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS CITY.
CONDITION IS KNOWN AS A UNDER C L LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT.
PERMITTED USES ON THIS PROPERTY ARE LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING PERMITTED USES IN THE CL COMMERCIAL LIMITED DISTRICT EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING, WHICH IS NUMBER 13 IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT NIGHTCLUB.
THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF STAFF'S REPORT. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS ACTUALLY CLOSED, WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE THAT PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST PRESENTATION WAS ADDRESSED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT'S WHEN THE NEXT ITEM KEPT GOING. SO THAT WAS WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
MADAM MAYOR, WITH THAT, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, WE HADN'T HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO WE MAY DISPOSE OF THE CASE.
THAT IS OKAY. THANK YOU. I MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER P 2025, R AS IN ROBERT, Z AS IN ZEBRA DASH 002-10 WITH A STREET ADDRESS 2418 MILLET STREET SECOND.
OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. DO. WAS THERE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT ONE? STAFF PROVIDED THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH A CONDITION.
OKAY. GO AHEAD. NO. MADAM MAYOR, I THINK WE HAVE TO ALSO ASK FOR OTHER PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS IS THAT WE HAVE TO ASK FOR OPPONENTS AND OPPONENTS.
STAFF DOESN'T NEED TO PRESENT AGAIN. ONE STAFF IS FINISHED AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO CALL FOR THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS THE CITY TECHNICALLY, BUT ANY PROPONENTS AND THEN ANY OPPONENTS.
OKAY, MADAM MAYOR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO DURING THE LAST WORK SESSION, WE ALSO PROVIDED A LIST OF ITEMS THAT.
WERE PROHIBITED. LIKE WE DID NOT WANT TO SEE.
STAFF DID LOOK AT THEM. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS A CITY INITIATED REZONING BY SEPARATING OUT THE NIGHTCLUB, WE FEEL THAT WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE AS FAR AS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE GIVEN BY THE COMMUNITY ADDING ADDITIONAL RESTRICTED ITEMS WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND SO STAFF FELT AT THIS TIME THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO CHANGE OR CHANGE OUR RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU. OKAY. HEARING NO MORE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE FLOOR? I MEAN COUNCILWOMAN, I MEAN, YES. OKAY. DIRECTOR SMITH, CAN YOU GIVE IT TO US IN LAYMAN'S TERMS? BECAUSE QUITE A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS PUT CONDITIONS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE NIGHTCLUB ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? THERE WAS A LIST FROM MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS CONDITION ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT WE SAID?
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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, BUT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY, THE THE PARTICULAR LAND USES THAT WERE PROPOSED TO EXCLUDE, THEY'RE TECHNICALLY NOT GOING TO BE I MEAN, YOU YOU WILL IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THOSE USES TO BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY AND KNOWING THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S SMALL, WHERE IT'S LOCATED, THE ACCESSIBILITY OF IT, THOSE PARTICULAR USES MOST LIKELY WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP ON THE PROPERTY.SO WE DID NOT WANT TO EXCLUDE OR FOR A LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
DO A SPOT ZONING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY IS IS INITIATING TO APPLY ZONING TO.
WE DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT OUR CODE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION. SO I KNOW SOME STIPULATIONS WERE MADE.
I THINK LAST MEETING, IT WAS STATED THAT WHAT CAN GO ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS RESTRICTED TO WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THIS. WHAT IS IT, COMMERCIAL LIMITED DISTRICT.
YES, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. CLARIFY. OKAY.
HEARING. NO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION THERE. IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDED STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. MADAM MAYOR. I'M SORRY. IS SOMEONE.
IS SOMEONE? DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THIS? CODE? GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD AS WELL THAT THIS COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE, THE OPTION TO, TO DENY THE REZONING AS WELL. THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.
OKAY. THAT IS ALSO AN OPTION. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THE CASE? ANYONE HERE OPPOSED? OKAY. HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR. WE FIRST NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I DO MAKE A MOTION.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER P 2025, R AS IN ROBERT, Z AS IN ZEBRA DASH 002-10, WITH THE STREET ADDRESS OF 2418 MILLET STREET, SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, BUT WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THE ITEM.
DID WE HAVE. I'M SORRY. ATTORNEY. SO MY QUESTION IS, WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW CLOSED AND THERE'S AN ITEM THAT WAS REVIEWED. THE SECOND CASE THE CORRECT ORDER.
NOW CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM. SO THE THE CORRECT ORDER AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO PROCEED WITH THE, THE FIRST READING OR TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING AND ADOPT AN ACTUAL REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
SO OKAY, SO WE NEED A MOTION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ON THE AGENDA.
SO BECAUSE OF YOUR FIRST READ, SECOND READ. IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE ITEM TONIGHT, YOU WOULD NEED TO WAIVE THE FIRST READ THROUGH EMOTION AND THEN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF CONDITIONS.
DENY APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED.
SO IT'S JUST IN THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL NOW AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO WAIVE THE FIRST READ.
THEY DON'T WEIGH THE FIRST READ. THEN THIS ITEM WILL GO TO YOUR NEXT AGENDA FOR THE SECOND. OKAY.
THERE WAS NO EXPRESS INTEREST IN WAIVING THE FIRST READING.
SO I CAN THINK MOVE FORWARD NOW WITH THAT. OKAY.
THERE'S NO WAIVER OF THE FIRST READ. THEN IT'LL PROCEED FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR A SECOND READING, AND THEN AN ULTIMATE VOTE AT YOUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO. NO, NO.
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YOU HAVE. YEAH. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING FOR THE CITY INITIATED ZONING CASE P2025RZ-002-10. SECOND.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.
OKAY. AND NOW THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SMITH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
P2025RZ-002-10. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. GO. I'M SORRY. WERE WE GOING TO ADD IN THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
I'M SORRY. SHE ADDRESSED IT PRIOR TO YOUR ARRIVAL, THAT THEY ARE CONFIDENT THAT OUR ZONING ORDINANCES WILL COVER EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION.
IT'S TO MY UNDERSTANDING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT HER TO ELABORATE.
STAFF DIDN'T RECOMMEND TO REMOVE THE ADDITIONAL PERMITTED USES FROM THE C L DISTRICT.
FURTHER RESTRICTING USES ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WOULD CREATE INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE ADOPTED ZONING ORDINANCE, AND MAY RESULT IN UNINTENDED LIMITATIONS ON THE PROPERTY'S REASONABLE ECONOMIC USE, AND MODIFYING PERMITTED USES OUTSIDE OF THE ORDINANCE FRAMEWORK ESTABLISHES A PRECEDENT THAT IS DIFFICULT TO APPLY CONSISTENTLY ACROSS FUTURE CASES.
COUNCILWOMAN. I THINK WE WAIVE THE FIRST. BUT THIS IS.
THIS WILL BE ADDED TO THE. WHAT IS IT? THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
GO AHEAD. SO, MAYOR, IF THE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE STAFF CONDITION MADE BY COUNCIL WOMAN MARTIN ROGERS I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOTTEN A SECOND YET OR NOT.
BUT THE MOTION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT CURRENTLY, IS THAT IT WOULD BE TO APPROVE WITH THE STAFF CONDITION OF LIMITING OR PROHIBITING A NIGHTCLUB USE, BUT ALL OTHER HCL USES WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY.
AMEN. AND SO JUST TO ALSO CLARIFY, AND I THINK THIS MAY HELP COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CITY, CORRECT? THE PROPERTY IS NOT ZONED OWNED BY THE CITY.
OKAY. NEVER MIND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THIS NOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD UNLESS THERE IS ANOTHER.
ARE YOU STILL IN? OKAY. THERE HAS BEEN. WHAT IS THE RULE? YES, SIR. CAN WE JUST GET A CONFIRMATION ON WHETHER THE MOTION.
THE SECOND AND A VOTE WAS MADE ON THIS ITEM, I HAVE IT.
THE, THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE WAS FROM MARTIN ROGERS.
CALDWELL SECONDED THE MOTION CARRIED. AND THERE WAS A VOTE OR THAT WAS NOT THERE WAS NO VOTE.
OKAY. THERE'S NOT BEEN A VOTE. THERE'S JUST A MOTION.
AND A SECOND. SO THE MOTION IS STILL THE MOTION IS READY FOR APPROVAL OR A VOTE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ALL THOSE DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION FOR THIS ITEM? SO FOR THE CONDITIONS. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS JUST THAT WE'RE NOT IS TO NOT PUT ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS BECAUSE IT WOULD SET A PRECEDENCE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? YEAH. SO THE STAFF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE DUE TO ITS SIZE, THE CONFIGURATION AND A LIMITED ACCESS AND VISIBILITY, THE SITE HAS PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS ON IT.
SO THE PARTICULAR USES THAT WERE STATED IN THE WORK SESSION.
THOSE USES WOULD HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME TO BE DEVELOPED ON SITE.
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OKAY. AND STAFF IS STANDING WITH WHAT WE HAVE SET FORTH, WHICH IS TO EXTRACT NIGHTCLUBS.OKAY. I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT THAT SOUNDS SUBJECTIVE TO ME THAT THAT THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTY IS JUST HARDER TO TO ALLOW THESE, THESE USES ON THERE. I JUST WANT TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THAT PROPERTY.
SO FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE THAT WE SHOULD PUT ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ON THERE.
AND THE VERY LEAST, WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION THAT ACCEPTS THE CONDITION OF THE NIGHTCLUB.
BUT YEAH, I, I WOULD ADD IN MORE CONDITIONS. THE CONDITIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WERE NO TIRE SHOPS, NO GAMBLING, NO PAWN SHOPS ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL USES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO THERE. IN THE EVENT THEY WERE, THEY WOULD BE SOLD TO AN OWNER WHO WOULD WANT TO DO THAT.
COUNCILWOMAN MITCHELL THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES FOR THAT? I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I'M THINKING IF IT'S NOT ALLOWABLE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, 100 THINGS WE RECOMMEND THAT DON'T GO THERE, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF WE HAVE A LIST IS A RELIABLE DIRECTOR, SMITH. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.
YES, I'M GETTING THEM. THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO READ THEM OFF FOR YOU, MR. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL.
AND THEY ARE UP ON THE SCREEN AS WELL. PERMITTED USES UNDER CL NUMBER ONE AMUSEMENT.
NUMBER FOUR. BANKS AND OTHER FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS INCLUDING LOAN AND FINANCE COMPANIES.
USE NUMBER FIVE IS BREWPUBS. USE NUMBER SIX IS COUNTRY INN.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT USE.
NUMBER SEVEN IS FOOD STORES. NUMBER EIGHT IS HOTEL.
MOTEL. NUMBER NINE IS HOTEL APARTMENT USE NUMBER TEN LIBRARIES 11 MUSIC, MOVIE THEATER 12.
MUSEUMS 13. NIGHTCLUB 14. OFFICE BUSINESS 15.
OFFICE PROFESSIONAL. 16. PAWN SHOP TITLE PAWN AND OTHER SIMILAR USES ARE PROHIBITED.
17 RETAIL SALES ESTABLISHMENT GENERAL MERCHANDISE 18 RETAIL SALES SPECIALTY 19 RESTAURANT BARS, GRILLS, TAVERNS, CAFES, DRIVE INS, FAST FOOD FACILITIES AND SIMILAR EATING DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT.
THERE ARE THREE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN REFERENCE TO RESTAURANTS.
NUMBER 20 IS TASTING. ROOM 21 IS THEATRICAL COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO IF ANYONE DISAGREED WITH. IF WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENTS WEREN'T BUILT IN, THAT LAND, WOULD HAVE TO COME FOR THAT LIST. WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE? SO SAY WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH, LET'S SAY, A TASTING ROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SINCE IT'S AN ALLOWABLE USE.
I GUESS IF SOMEBODY HAD A DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT OR THE COUNCIL HAD TO DISAGREE WITH THAT, LIKE WE HAVE NIGHTCLUB ON HERE EARLIER, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED FOR THIS PROPERTY.
SO IF ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES.
OKAY. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL.
SO I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. IF THIS ITEM IS APPROVED, THEN CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS? AND CLARIFY IF THERE ARE ANY STAGES IN WHICH COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE OR SHAPE WHAT'S BEING BUILT THERE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, SO WE'VE WRAPPED UP THE DISCUSSION FOR THIS ITEM.
OKAY. DISCUSSION IS NOW CLOSED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
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ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.WHAT WAS THE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. WE CAN MOVE NOW TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA AND
[IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT READS AS SUCH. THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA.THE CITY CLERK SHALL MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FORM AVAILABLE IN THE CITY HALL.
LABOR LOBBY. PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING, ALL SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT FORM AND PROVIDE A COMPLETED COMMENT FORM TO THE CITY CLERK BETWEEN SIX 8:06 P.M. AND 6:25 P.M.
PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. SUBJECT MAY INCLUDE ANY SUBJECT OF CHOICE.
THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER.
SHOULD THE SPEAKER DESIRE TO GIVE HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, HE OR SHE MAY DO SO BY NOTATING WHAT NOTATING WHAT? WHAT SPEAKERS SHALL RECEIVE THE TIME HIS OR HER COMMENT ON HIS OR HER COMMENT FORM PROVIDED THAT THE SPEAKER GIVEN HIS OR HER FORM THAT HE OR SHE GIVES ALL OR PART OF HER FORM TO UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER FOR THE TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES PER SPEAKING TIME.
SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THE TIME OF THE AGENDA.
SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES IN THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING.
QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKER MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SESSION OF THE AGENDA.
EAST POINT RESIDENTS SHALL HAVE PRIOR PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS.
THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES PER PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICER.
SPEAKERS SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES AND DECORUM.
NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITIES SHALL BE TOLERATED.
ALL RIGHT. AND, MADAM CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE 17 PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
OKAY. UP FIRST WE HAVE MISS MARIE TERRY. THE TIME.
DO WE HAVE THE TIME FOR THE PRESENTATION? OKAY.
GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS MARIE TERRY. I AM A RESIDENT OF EASTPOINTE.
ISSUE ONE SIDEWALK VEGETATION. YOUR HAD SIDEWALKS PUT IN ON SYLVAN ROAD AND WHEN YOU PUT THEM ON SEVEN ROAD, THERE THEY ARE. THEY PLANTED WEEDS INSTEAD OF GRASS, NOT MAINTAINED GRASS DIRECTLY IN RESIDENT'S YARD.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE CITY ENFORCED AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IF GRASS OR WEEDS EXCEED SIX INCHES.
I AM REQUESTING, I REQUEST MAINTAIN THESE AREAS REPLACED WITH PROPER GRASS.
ALL OF THE YARDS ON CIVIL ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CLEVELAND ARE REMOVED.
PENALTIES TIED TO THEM. ISSUE TWO RISING COSTS OF CITY SPENDING.
AND I DID RECEIVE A PAPER IN MY UTILITY BILL ABOUT THE RISING OF THE UTILITIES.
WE DO NOT NEED YOU GUYS TO RAISE THAT. AND I'M ALSO AGAINST YOU GUYS FIRING ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT GOES TO YOU AS CITY COUNCILS, ALSO AS THE CITY MANAGER.
I WOULD RATHER FOR YOU GUYS TO ACTUALLY TRY TO FIND A WAY TO KEEP THEM MAYBE LOWER THEIR HOURS, DO NOT FIRE ANYBODY. THAT'LL BE ANOTHER ISSUE.
YOU'RE RAISING THE POWER BILL. MONEY SHORTAGES.
RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED TO PAY MORE WITHOUT CLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY.
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I REQUEST GREATER TRANSPARENCY IN YOUR SPENDING, AND I A REVIEW OF YOUR CREDIT CARD USAGE AND PROTECT RESIDENTS FROM UNNECESSARY FINANCIAL BURDEN. AND I ALSO WANT AN AUDIT BEFORE YOU RAISE OUR PROPERTY TAXES, BEFORE YOU FIRE ANYBODY. YOU GUYS NEED TO BE AUDIT.I'M REQUESTING THAT AT IT, AND LET IT BE KNOWN TO ERIC FREELY.
JASPER HUMAN WHO'S NOT HERE. ANDRE. CALDWELL.
LATONYA. MARTIN. ROGERS. MAYOR. KEISHA. CHAPMAN.
SHAUN. ATKINS. CARRIE. ZEIGLER. JERMAINE. MITCHELL.
Y'ALL HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE CREDIT CARDS THAT WE GIVE YOU GUYS.
I'M AGAINST THAT. SO I'M TELLING YOU GUYS NOW, DON'T DO IT.
UP NEXT, WE HAVE MR. GRIFFIN. MR. GRIFFIN OH THANK YOU.
YES. IT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW, THOUGH. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GREG FAN AND ALL Y'ALL KNOW ME.
SO THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT. I GOT ABOUT THREE THINGS.
WE KNOW WHAT Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT. I SIT AND LISTEN TO COUNCIL MEETING THE OTHER OTHER NIGHT.
AND I STAYED AT 1:00 AND TRYING TO HEAR AND I COULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
SO ANYBODY SITTING AT HOME TRYING TO LISTEN TO COUNCIL ME, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT. LIKE Y'ALL WHISPERING TO EACH OTHER, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THIS IS AN OPEN MEETING, AND WE NEED TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
HELLO? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AM I RIGHT ABOUT IT? ALRIGHT, NOW, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SANITATION FEE GOING UP.
I KNOW TRASH, I KNOW GARBAGE, I WAS A GARBAGE MAN.
THAT WAS MY FIRST JOB WHEN I GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL.
CARRYING GARBAGE ON MY SHOULDER SO I KNOW GARBAGE.
LET ME JUST TELL YOU SOMETHING. Y'ALL LOSING A LOT OF MONEY ON FRANCHISE FEES.
EAST POINT IS RESPONSIBILITY FOR GARBAGE REMOVAL.
YOU CAN CHARGE. EVERY HAULER WILL GET ONE HAULER A FRANCHISE FEE.
I THINK THAT'S YOUR JOB TO TALK ABOUT REALIGNMENT OF THE EMPLOYEES.
HOW DO YOU REALIGN DEPARTMENTS? I DON'T THINK IT'S COUNCIL JOB.
YOU ARE THE POLICY MAKERS. YOU SAID POLICIES.
YOU DON'T MAKE DECISION AS TO HOW GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO BE STRUCTURED UNTIL HE BRINGS RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S ONE THING. THE LAST AND FINAL THING I WANT TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, MEN IN THE UNION, ALL THE YEARS I WAS IN, AND I SEE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT LAYING PEOPLE OFF WHEN GAS IS $5.
YOU TALK ABOUT GOING UP ON PEOPLE'S TAXES. YOU TALKING ABOUT GOING UP ON UTILITY BILLS.
WE STRUGGLING. WE DON'T WENT THROUGH THIS ONE TIME BEFORE AND WE HAVE KEPT THIS CITY RUNNING.
DON'T YOU DO IT. DON'T YOU DO IT. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT.
THIS CITY IS KNOWN TO RECALL. AND THEY WILL BE DOING SOME RECALLING.
BUT GOD BLESS YOU. GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.
THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISSUS CHERYL GRAY.
HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU.
MY NAME IS CHERYL GRAY AND I LIVE ON BRIARWOOD BOULEVARD IN THE OAK FOREST COMMUNITY.
AND SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE HERE. I'M COMING OUT OF LEFT FIELD.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
I LIVED IN EAST POINT FOR OVER 50 YEARS. THIS IS JUST A PROFIT OF ME.
BUT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THAT SENSE OF SAFETY HAS BEEN STEADILY ERODED QUITE LITERALLY.
MY YARDS FLOOD REGULARLY. WHAT APPEARS TO BE INADEQUATE SEWER AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AFTER EVEN MODERATE RAINFALL, WATER ACCUMULATES AND SITS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS.
THIS ISN'T JUST INCONVENIENCE, IT'S CAUSING REAL DAMAGE.
WE'RE NOW SEEING SINKHOLES BEGIN TO FORM. THE GROUNDS ARE NO LONGER STABLE.
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SOIL EROSION IS WORSENING WITH EACH STORM. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY LATELY, BUT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE STORMS HAVE IS WASHING AWAY NOT JUST MY LAND, BUT THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT SHOULD BE A SAFE LIVING ENVIRONMENT.WHAT'S MOST FRUSTRATING IS THAT THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE.
WE AND OTHERS IN THE AREA HAVE BEEN RAISING CONCERN AND FILING COMPLAINTS FOR YEARS.
AT THIS POINT, THIS IS NO LONGER A MINOR MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
IT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE THAT REQUIRES ATTENTION AND ACTION.
I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, TO INVESTIGATE THE DRAINAGE AND SEWER CAPACITY IN OUR AREA, TO ASSESS THE DAMAGE ALREADY OCCURRING, AND TO IMPLEMENT A LONG TERM SOLUTION BEFORE THE SITUATION BECOMES EVEN MORE DANGEROUS AND MORE COSTLY TO FIX.
I'M NOT HERE JUST TO COMPLAIN. I'M HERE ASKING FOR HELP, FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND FOR SOLUTION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS I LIVE IN THE CURVE OF THE STREET.
SO RAIN FLOWS DOWN HERE ONE WAY. RAIN FLOWS DOWN HERE THE OTHER WAY.
SO I'M IN THE CENTER, MY HIP, MY DRIVEWAY TILTS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS? ALL THE RAIN FLOODS MY PROPERTY, I.
MY HOUSE WAS BURNED DOWN ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
I TOTALLY REBUILT BECAUSE I LOVE EAST POINT, SO I REBUILT IN EAST POINT.
OKAY. THE CONSTRUCTOR. HE DID MY JOB. HE BUILT UP THE AREA SO MY HOME WAS FLOODED.
OKAY, MY HOME DIDN'T FLOOD, BUT ALL THE YARD IS WASHED AWAY.
NOW. WE HAVE SINKHOLES ON THE RIGHT. NOW I'M SEEING SINKHOLES IN MY BACKYARD, SO I'VE CALLED.
NOBODY ANSWERED THE PHONE. I'VE TRIED EMAILS.
NOBODY RETURNS MY CALL AND I NEED SOMEONE TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT THE PLACE WHEN THEY COME.
THEY DID A LITTLE SHOVEL AND THEY DIG OUT THE TWO LITTLE DRAINS.
IT'S PRETTY BIG DRAINS ON THE SIDE. THEY DIG THOSE OUT.
I MEAN, THEY BROUGHT A MANHOLE OUT AT ONE TIME AND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
I NEED SOMEONE TO COME AND VISUALLY LOOK AT THE AREA AND THEY CAN SEE THESE SINKHOLES.
THAT'S COMING UP. ONE TIME MY SON STEPPED IN IT AND HE SPRAINED HIS ANKLE SEVERELY IN A SINKHOLE.
SO I NEED SOME HELP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS JACKIE SLAUGHTER, AND SHE HAD TIME GIVEN TO HER BY MISS CHERYL WARREN. SO SHE'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
I NEED TO TALK UP. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU CAN'T HEAR NOTHING IN THE BACK.
SO YOU NEED TO TALK UP SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR YOU.
I'M HERE ABOUT ONE THING. TWO THINGS FIRST OF ALL, WHO.
BRIGHT IDEA WAS TO INCREASE OUR UTILITY BILL.
SECOND, YOU CANNOT INCREASE OUR UTILITY BILL UNTIL YOU GO TO ME AND LET THEM DO A STUDY.
AND IT'S NOT FOR THE MANAGER TO DO IT. IT'S FOR THE COUNCIL THAT THEY HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED.
HOW I KNOW I SPENT EIGHT YEARS AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL.
YOU NEED TO GET OKAY FROM ME AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE STUDY IF YOU CAN INCREASE OR DECREASE.
NOT ONLY THAT, IF YOU THEY NOT INCREASING THEIR BASE COST, YOU CAN'T DECREASE, CAN'T INCREASE IF THEY DON'T GO UP ON OUR PRICE. AND YOU HAVE TO PUT PART OF THAT MONEY IN RESERVE FOR EMERGENCY, FOR EMERGENCY, NOT TO SPEND, TO GO TO TRAINING, NOT TO SPEND TO KEEP THE CITY OPERATING.
CUT YOUR EMPLOYEE SALARY. WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, WE MADE EXACTLY $5,000 A MONTH.
BUT WE SURVIVED AND WE WAS ABLE TO GO TO TRAINING.
HOW MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN TO ME AT SOUTHEAST WITH THE MUNICIPAL CITY? YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE YOUR TAX COME FROM.
THAT'S WHAT GOING TO WASHINGTON IS THING FOR, TO GET MONEY FOR US.
YOU CAN COME AND DIG UP. FULTON COUNTY CHEATED US OUT OF MONEY OVER $100,000.
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SO Y'ALL COUNCIL IS HIS BOSS. HE'S NOT YOUR BOSS.HE CAN ONLY MAKE SUGGESTION. Y'ALL ARE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
AND I WILL LEAD THE PACK IF THIS CITY GO IN THE RED BECAUSE IT'S ON THE WAY THERE.
YOU GOT A FINANCE MANAGER AS AN INTERIM MANAGER AND AN EXTERNAL.
HOW'S SHE GOING TO BE INVESTIGATING HER BOOKS? NOT ONLY THAT, YOU GOT A LAWYER. KNOW LESS ABOUT LAW THAN I DO.
AND I KNOW ABOUT LAW. I WAS MARRIED TO A LAWYER, AND I PUT TWO KIDS THROUGH LAW SCHOOL.
SO Y'ALL NEED TO GET ON THE BALL, AND I DON'T.
I'M NOT MAD AT YOU, BUT I WILL. AND I WILL START RIGHT NOW UP AND TAKE YOU TO THE STATE.
AND I ASKED MISS PITTMAN, I WON A LAWSUIT AGAINST HER WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL.
IT DON'T MATTER WHAT HE THINK. HE CAN'T FIRE YOU, BUT WE CAN.
AND PAYING HER ALL THIS MONEY. AND THEN YOU GOT A FINANCE MAN GOING TO DO THREE THINGS.
THAT'S. AND FINALLY, I'M PUTTING Y'ALL ON NOTICE.
YOU BETTER START MAKING SOME CHANGES AND GET PERMANENT CITY ATTORNEY A PERMANENT FINANCE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL FINANCE MANAGER MANAGER. AND THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE SHARON LOVETT.
PRAISE THE LORD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. SHARON LOVETT, THE LITTLE DRYER.
OKAY. I HAD KNEE REPLACEMENT. THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE.
BUT I'M BACK. I LIVED IN THIS CITY 38 YEARS, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE SUMMER.
I'M SORRY. MA'AM, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? CAN I WHAT? SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT. OH, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.
THERE YOU GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME, MA'AM? OKAY. OKAY.
OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO I'VE BEEN HERE 38 YEARS, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE RATE INCREASE.
STARTING NEXT MONTH, THE. AND NO REAL NOTIFICATION GIVEN TO THE RESIDENTS EXCEPT THROUGH FACEBOOK POST AND A BILL THAT MY NEIGHBOR RECEIVED LAST WEEK. EVERY TIME THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT RATES, THE CITY MADE SURE TO NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS.
BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE LATELY. THERE USED TO BE TOWN HALL MEETINGS OR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES FOR IT, AND YOU CAN VETO THE INCREASE.
OKAY. WE VOTED FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, NOT FOR YOU TO HAND THIS CITY OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER TO DO WHAT HE THINKS IS BEST WITH SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS EVEN NOT KNOWING.
WHILE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING RATES FOR THE CITY, ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT DECREASING HIS $203,000 SALARY HE GOT LAST YEAR? OKAY, THAT WILL BE US. SOME MONEY RIGHT THERE.
AND PLUS, WE'RE NOT HAVING THE WWE ANYMORE IN WHICH WE ANNUALLY GET $5 MILLION FROM THE HOTEL MOTEL MONEY EVERY YEAR. AND THE WWE ONLY TOOK 400 000. SO YOU ADD THEM 400 000 BACK IN THERE.
I AM A SENIOR CITIZEN. I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THAT INCREASE.
SO I RECEIVED INFORMATION ON SOME OF THE CREDIT CARDS TOO.
I GOT AN EMAIL FROM GAP GEORGIA ACCOUNTABILITY PROJECT.
AND IT WAS CVS, CASH APP, $200 TO A CHURCH. NOTHING AGAINST A CHURCH.
I LOVE THE CHURCH. BUT YOU GIVE YOUR OWN MONEY, NOT THE CITY'S MONEY.
I CAN'T AFFORD TO FUND NOBODY'S LIFESTYLE. I, I DON'T MAKE $203,000.
EVERYONE'S CREDIT CARD AND STATEMENT NEED TO BE PUT ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AND NO OPEN RECORDS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED ON THESE CHARGES. I WONDER WHY? BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT.
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CITY COUNCIL. THEY NEED TO REACH OUT TO ME. I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DO.SO AS I WAS STATING, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS CITY ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK.
AND THE THE MEETING IS NOT ON CHANNEL 22 ON XFINITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
AND THE THE MEETING IS NOT ON FACEBOOK. SO A LOT OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GET YOUTUBE.
I CAN PULL IT UP, BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT'S IT'S OVER WITH.
GOOD EVENING. I'M REAL LOUD. I AM A RETIRED SERGEANT, FIRST CLASS UNITED STATES ARMY.
I DID 34 YEARS IN THE SERVICE. I'VE BEEN IN EASTPOINT EVER SINCE 2006.
I'VE DEPLOYED THREE TIMES TO IRAQ TWICE. I LEFT MY NIECE IN CHARGE OF MY FINANCIAL.
I HAVE MY KIDS ARE GROWN. I HAVE A HOUSE BY MYSELF.
SHE EMAILED ME. I T YOUR LIGHT BILL FROM THIS MONTH ALL THE WAY TO THIS MONTH, WHICH WAS.
THE SUMMER MONTHS IS $400. THERE'S NOBODY LIVING IN THE HOUSE.
THE REFRIGERATOR IS OFF. THE ONLY LIGHTS I HAD ON MY HOUSE WAS THE OUTSIDE LIGHTS.
WHY IS MY HOUSE? WHY IS IT LIKE THAT? SO I CAME UP HERE AND TALKED TO SOMEONE ABOUT IT.
THEY SAID, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE READING.
NOBODY NEVER READ MY, MY, MY METERS. ONCE I RETIRED IN 2013, I WAS AT HOME EVERY DAY.
I AIN'T SEEN NOBODY COME AND READ NO METERS. I NEED TO KNOW.
BUT THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE RIGHT NOW. I'M 72 YEARS OLD.
I CAN'T AFFORD LIGHT BILLS TO BE $400 A MONTH.
I LOVE EASTPOINTE. I DON'T WANT TO MOVE ANYPLACE ELSE.
SO PLEASE HELP A SISTER OUT. ALSO, MY SECOND ONE.
YOU JUST BUILT BRIARWOOD ELEMENTARY UP THE HILL.
THEY JUST BUILT IT UP THERE. THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
YOU'RE CONSIDERING PUTTING SIDEWALKS OVER HERE? I LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM MISS CHERYL.
AND THE OTHER SIDE OF BRIDLEWOOD IS FOR THE BUSSES.
SO SOMEONE NEED TO COME OUT AND LOOK WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE.
OKAY? PLEASE HELP US OUT. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE KENDALL PHILLIPS. AND SHE HAD TIME GIVEN TO THEM BY ANNIE BARNARD.
MARSHALS. THEY'LL HAVE SIX. SHE'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KENDALL PHILLIPS, AND I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT WHO HAS REVIEWED THE 2026 BUDGET AND SEVERAL DOCUMENTS RECEIVED THROUGH OPEN RECORDS. I WANT TO SHARE INFORMATION THAT WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THE FULL PICTURE AND HELP THE CITY MAKE DECISIONS THAT SUPPORT RESIDENTS.
THROUGH AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, I CONFIRMED THAT FROM FEBRUARY 2025 THROUGH JULY 2025, THE RED SPEED CAMERAS GENERATED $238,000. THAT MEANS NEARLY A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS WAS GENERATED IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE PROGRAM'S LAUNCH.
AND THAT WAS A YEAR AGO, BECAUSE THIS TOTAL DOES NOT INCLUDE AUGUST 25TH.
I MEAN, AUGUST 2025 THROUGH TODAY. AND BECAUSE CITATION VOLUME INCREASES ONCE THE SYSTEM IS FULLY OPERATIONAL, IT IS ALMOST CERTAIN THAT AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION WAS GENERATED OVER THE FIRST FULL YEAR.
SO HOW CAN WE REDIRECT THIS REVENUE TO THAT? THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL.
SORRY Y'ALL. I'M NERVOUS. SYSTEM ISSUES WITH THE READ SPEED SCHOOL SAFETY ZONE.
AND RESIDENTS DIDN'T RECEIVE LEGAL REQUIRED 30 DAY WARNING PERIODS.
THE FLASHING LIGHTS WERE OFTEN NOT WORKING. PARTY WEST AND HAMILTON EAST HOME SCHOOL ZONES HAD DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT STANDARDS, CREATING CONFUSION AND INCONSISTENCY. AND THE CAMERAS ACTIVE TICKETING HOURS ARE SET FOR ABOUT TEN HOURS A DAY.
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IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT GET A TICKET. THIS HAS STRUCK MANY RESIDENTS AS AN UNUSUAL ENFORCEMENT WINDOW FOR A SCHOOL ZONE, AND RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW ENFORCEMENT HOURS WERE CHOSEN AND COMMUNICATED.EVEN WITH THESE PROBLEMS, THE COMMUNITY HAS CONTRIBUTED A LOT OF MONEY, AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE THOSE DOLLARS ARE SPENT IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS PUBLIC SAFETY AND RESIDENTS. SO OF COURSE, WE WANT TO OFFER A SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM OR ATTEMPT TO.
THE 2026 BUDGET RECOMMENDS APPROXIMATELY $1.6 MILLION FOR REPLACING POLICE VEHICLES.
SINCE CITATION REVENUE CAN ONLY BE USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I RECOMMEND THAT THEY BUY THEIR OWN CARS WITH THE MONEY.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER? WHY DOES THIS MATTER FOR THE REAL PEOPLE IN OUR CITY? SO A LOT OF YOU MAY RECOGNIZE ME BECAUSE I WAS HELPING MY NEIGHBOR WITH THE $67,000 WATER BILL LAST YEAR.
AND LAST YEAR. I ALSO LEARNED ABOUT SENIORS LIVING WITH THE SINKHOLES.
THAT'S HEARTBREAKING. THESE ARE PREVENTABLE CRISES.
LAST YEAR, ALSO, MISS YOLANDA JOHNSON, OUR COMMUNITY SOCIAL SERVICES MANAGER, SHE HELPED A LOT WITH TRYING TO ASSIST MY NEIGHBOR AND OTHERS WITH. BUT WITH LIMITED RESOURCES. I RECOMMEND INCREASING HER DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
SO SHE CONTINUED MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS.
IN CLOSING, MY GOAL TONIGHT IS NOT TO CRITICIZE, BUT TO OFFER A DOCUMENTED PRACTICAL SOLUTION THAT USING EXISTING REVENUE TO STRENGTHEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND SUPPORT RESIDENTS. PLEASE PUBLISH A CLEAR SUMMARY OF ALL CITATION, REVIEW AND SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS SO RESIDENTS CAN SEE THE FULL FINANCIAL PICTURE BEFORE DECISIONS ABOUT RATE INCREASES OR TAXES ARE MADE.
THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS ROXIE DUMAS.
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I'M I'M AGAINST THE PROPERTY TAX AND POWER BILL.
EVER SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON STONE ROAD BE LIMITED BY 35 YEARS.
THE TAX BEEN GOING UP JUST ABOUT. HIGHER AND HIGHER AND I'M A RESIDENT OF EAST POINT.
I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN AND EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW WE DON'T GET A WE GET TO CHECK THAT ONCE A MONTH.
WE GOT TO STRETCH THAT CHECK ONCE A MONTH TO MAKE FOR ANOTHER MONTH.
AND THAT'S IT'S TOUGH WHEN YOUR TAXES GOING UP.
I DON'T THINK I'M, I'M NOT LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT UP ON NOBODY.
EVERYBODY KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG. WE DO NEED HELP AND WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP.
AND HE'S PROBABLY GOT TO A POINT LIKE A GHETTO BECAUSE THERE AIN'T NO CLEANING UP AROUND THAT AREA.
AND THEN YOU SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE EVERY NOW AND THEN TRYING TO PICK UP PAPER AND STUFF.
WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DOING SITTING IN THE TRUCK.
I SEE SOME OF THEM SITTING UP THE. PROBABLY ATE TOO MUCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT WE NEED SOMEBODY TO CLEAN UP EACH PRINT.
WE GO IN THE OTHER PLACE. IT'S CLEAN, BUT EACH PRINT IS NOT CLEAN.
I LIKE EAST PRINT. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS IN EAST PRINT AND I LOVE IT.
THAT'S A NICE PLACE, BUT I DON'T THINK Y'ALL KNOW WHAT, RIGHT? Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S WRONG AND GOD SEE IT ALL. Y'ALL BE BLESSED.
UP NEXT WE HAVE ANTHONY DERUBEIS.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
TONY DERUBEIS. I LIVE DOWN AT THE END OF EASTPOINTE STREET.
BEEN HERE ABOUT 16 YEARS. THREE SMALL ITEMS. I FEEL OVERWHELMED BY ALL THE COMMENTS SO FAR.
MAYOR CHAPMAN, WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
I ASKED YOU IF YOU COULD RUN A COUNCIL MEETING FOR THREE IN UNDER THREE HOURS.
THE FIRST ONE WAS PROMISING. WHEN I SEE AN AGENDA, TAKE 30 MINUTES TO GET THROUGH.
SOMETHING'S WRONG. YOU GOT TO SIT. FIGURE OUT YOUR AGENDA.
PEOPLE ARE MAKING SUGGESTIONS EVERY WEEK FOR THE SAME ITEMS TO BE MOVED AROUND.
TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. FIX THE AGENDA.
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GET IT DONE IN FIVE MINUTES. CITY MANAGER JONES COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING HAS BEEN HAVING BUDGET MEETINGS FOR THE TOWN'S FOLKS, AND I OPENED MY 2026 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET TODAY, MADE MY SPREADSHEET TO GET READY FOR THE 27 BUDGET COMING OUT. I WENT TO FIND YOUR VARIANCES ONLINE.NOTHING'S BEEN POSTED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. EVERYTHING STOPPED IN APRIL OF 2025, SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THE VARIANCES SO I COULD SEE WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THE BUDGET COMES OUT THIS YEAR. HOW CLOSE WERE WE? HOW CLOSE ARE THE ESTIMATES FOR REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES.
THANK YOU. FINALLY, IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, I WAS KINDLY NOMINATED BY COUNCILMAN ATKINS TO THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD. IT HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR.
IT HAS STILL NOT BEEN SEATED. I HAVE WATCHED TWO PRESENTATIONS ONLINE FROM ELECTRIFIED CITY OF GEORGIA AND THE SANITATION SOLID WASTE. ALL OF THESE PRESENTATIONS COULD BE GOING TO THE BOARD TO BE DIGESTED.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE MINUTIA OF THE DATA THAT'S COMING IN FRONT OF YOU.
I RAN THROUGH THE NUMBERS TODAY. I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD THEIR UTILITY BILLS.
ANY PERSON WHO, WITH OVER 2000 KILOWATT HOURS ON THEIR BILL, SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE REVIEWED BY THE ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. YOU CAN'T GENERATE THAT MUCH ELECTRICITY AND USE IT WITHOUT A MAJOR PROBLEM.
I'LL GO ON RECORD ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE ME.
I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BILL. I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE.
OFF THE RECORD. NO AFFILIATION WITH THE CITY TO HELP YOU LOWER YOUR BILLS.
IT'S INSANE. OKAY, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH JOB. THANKLESS JOB. MANY TIMES.
KEEP MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MR. NAPOLEON BLECK, AND HE HAD TIME GIVEN TO HIM BY MRS. PITMAN. SO HE'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PRETTY EMOTIONAL UP HERE, BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO START GETTING OFFICIAL INFORMATION FROM YOU, LIKE THROUGH THE WEBSITE OR THROUGH MAILINGS WITH THE UTILITY BILLS.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US IF YOU ARE GOING TO INCREASE UTILITY BILLS, LET US KNOW WHAT ARE THE RATE, THE NEW RATES GOING TO BE, WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE AND HOW LONG EXACTLY.
SO PEOPLE CAN BUDGET IT OUT BASED ON WHAT THEIR PREVIOUS BILLS ARE.
IT SAID THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING LAYING OFF FRONT LINE EMPLOYEES.
OKAY. IF WE DO THAT, WHAT DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED? OUR ESSENTIAL DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE SEWER, WATER AND ELECTRICITY.
THEY HAVE SOME STAFFING SHORTAGES. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO LAY OFF PEOPLE IF IT'S I MEAN, WILL THE LAYOFFS AFFECT THOSE DEPARTMENTS? AND IF WE LAY OFF PEOPLE, WHAT ARE THE SEPARATION PACKAGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO OFFER THEM? WILL IT BE A SIX MONTH OR EIGHT MONTH? WHAT ABOUT THEIR BENEFITS? I MEAN, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
AND WILL WE PUT THEM ON SOME KIND OF A RECALL LIST.
SO IF WE LAY PEOPLE OFF, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE EXPENSES WE CAN ELIMINATE NON-ESSENTIAL.
WHAT DEPARTMENTS CAN WE TRIM FAT? WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU KNOW, CAN WE YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HIRING, EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT WE NEED A BUDGET ANALYSIS.
WE NEED AN INTERNAL AUDIT. WE NEED AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR.
WHEN CAN WE DO THIS AND HOW FAST CAN WE DO IT AND WITHOUT THE EMOTIONS BEHIND IT.
I MEAN, IF WE DO NEED TO GO UP ON RATES, WHAT ARE YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE RATES FOR WHAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO IMPROVE? WILL IT BE OKAY? I LIVE OFF THE LOW IN MONTROSE.
SO JUST TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND MAYBE PEOPLE WILL BE MORE OPEN TO INCREASE.
I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE IMPROVEMENTS, IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE RUN OF THE MILL AND WE'RE INCREASING UTILITY RATES, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO BUY THAT. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET AN OFFICIAL AUDIT.
SHOW US THE NUMBERS. WHERE'S WHAT'S THE REVENUE? WHAT'S THE EXPENSES. WHAT'S OUR LONG TERM LIABILITY.
PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS FOR PEOPLE SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
I MEAN YOU ALL UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE A LOT OF YOU HAVE HIGHER EDUCATION.
YOU DEAL IN ACCOUNTING. YOU MAY BE AN ATTORNEY, BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST EVERYDAY I'M NOT GOING TO SAY JUST EVERYDAY PEOPLE, BUT PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE NUMBERS.
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OH, I WANT A CLEAN STREET. I WANT BRIGHT LIGHTS, I WANT TRASH SEWER.AND THEN I DON'T WANT TO PAY ANYTHING. THAT'S NOT THE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE MINDSET IS.
I THINK PEOPLE CAN DIGEST IT A LITTLE BETTER.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. UP NEXT, WE HAVE MISS DEBORAH HARGROVE.
THE OIL FUEL SPILLAGE AT HARTSFIELD AIRPORT AND THE SEWAGE PIPE THAT BURST ON DODSON DRIVE, WHICH NEXT TO HEADLAND HEIGHTS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
I NOTICED THERE WERE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT PERTAINED TO WATER, AND THERE WAS A CONCERN TO WHY THERE WAS NO WATER ADVISORY NOTIFICATION TO THE RESIDENTS. AND IF SO, HOW WILL IT BE DONE? HOW WILL YOU NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY ARE NOT TO USE WATER OR TO BOIL WATER? ALSO, IN REGARDS TO RAISING THE UTILITY RATE, IT CAME TO ME OVER THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS WE'VE BEEN PARTYING LIKE IT'S 1999. WE'VE BEEN PARTYING.
USING REVENUES FRIVOLOUSLY, WHAT I CONSIDER FRIVOLOUSLY, ONE OF THE THE FINANCE REPRESENTATIVES CAME LAST YEAR AND REPORTED $160,000 IN TAX REVENUES.
THAT WAS EXCESS OVER WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR.
THAT REVENUES, EXTRA REVENUES WAS IMMEDIATELY VOTED TO BE ALLOCATED TO THE WEDNESDAY WIND DOWN.
WHAT ABOUT THE REVENUES FROM CAMP CREEK PARKWAY? WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPENSATED FOR. WHEN WILL WE REAP THE BENEFITS FROM THAT TAB THAT'S BEING PAID OFF? WE'VE BEEN PAYING ON THAT FOR YEARS AND WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN THE BENEFITS FROM THAT.
WHAT IS THE BUDGET THIS YEAR? CAN BE POSTPONED FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS SO THAT WE CAN ALLEVIATE RAISING UTILITY RATES FOR RESIDENTS. NEW SIGNAGE FOR THE CITY BOUNDARIES WAS SUBMITTED LAST YEAR.
IS THIS AN URGENT EXPENDITURE OR A A DISCRETIONARY EXPENDITURE THAT CAN BE DELAYED FOR FURTHER USAGE. YOU KNOW, RECONSIDER SOME OF THE SPENDING THAT IS IN THE BUDGET THAT CAN BE DELAYED.
SO WE CAN NOT RAISE THE UTILITY RATES. THANK YOU.
UP NEXT, WE HAVE MR. WILLIE JACKSON, AND HE HAD TIME GIVEN TO HIM BY ANITA SMITH.
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS WILLIE JACKSON.
I AM A FORMER. WELL, BEFORE I WOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY.
I FIRST OF ALL WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THANKS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE FORMER MAYOR AND THE NEW MAYOR, AND ALSO ESPECIALLY THE FORMER MAYOR, ERNESTINE PITTMAN.
BECAUSE OF THEM. I HAVE BEEN ACCORDED HELP WITH PROPERTY DAMAGE TO MY HOME.
BUT BEFORE I EVEN GO INTO THIS, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY OF MYSELF.
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IN. THANK YOU. IN ADDITION, I DID 19 YEARS WITH THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION, BETTER KNOWN AS THE VA.I SERVED MY COUNTRY. I SERVED MY COMMUNITY. I ALSO SERVED ON THE STORMWATER COMMISSION.
WHEN I FIRST GOT TO RVA, NOT RVA, BUT EAST POINT, AND THAT AT THAT TIME WE DID RECOMMENDATIONS TO ASSIST THE RESIDENTS HERE IN TERMS OF PROBLEMS WITH STORMWATER DAMAGE TO THEIR PROPERTY.
WELL, THAT WAS LIKE ABOUT 2011 WHEN I SERVED ON THAT COMMITTEE.
IT'S IRONIC THAT I WOULD NEED TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF THE STORMWATER RECOMMENDATIONS ALONG WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE IN TERMS OF RECOGNIZING AND HELPING THE RESIDENTS WITH THEIR STORMWATER DAMAGES, AND THERE IS A LOT OF THAT GOING ON IN EASTPOINTE.
IN 2024, I DEVELOPED A PROBLEM WITH STORM WATER DAMAGE.
I GOT AHOLD TO THE TO THE CITY. THEY CAME OUT, DID A SURVEY.
THEY WANTED ME TO PAY A PORTION OF GOING AHEAD AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.
WELL, GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY ABOUT ME.
MY WIFE AND I BOTH ARE DISABLED. I'M 100% SERVICE CONNECTED DISABLED.
MY WIFE WAS RECENTLY DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER. WE ARE STRUGGLING SOMEWHAT.
WE DO WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
IN ADDITION. THE CITY WANTED ME TO PAY A PORTION OF TRYING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SINKHOLE, AND IT WAS LARGE. I TOLD THEM THAT I COULDN'T, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FIGHT BEGAN IN 2025, WITH THE HELP OF MAYOR PITTMAN. WE MADE NUMEROUS VISITS HERE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, EXPLAINING THE SITUATION AND ASKING FOR HELP AND CONSIDERATION.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, THERE WAS SOME RELUCTANCE ON TRYING TO DO THAT.
OKAY, FINE. THROUGHOUT 2025. OH MY GOODNESS, WHOLE YEAR IT WAS JUST A BACK AND FORTH DEAL. FINALLY THEY STARTED WORK ON, ON THE SINKHOLE AND THAT TOOK A LITTLE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT SITUATION CORRECTED. AT THE END OF 2025 AND THE BEGINNING OF 2026.
IT WAS COMPLETED THAT THE SINKHOLE WAS REPAIRED IN ADDITION TO THAT.
OKAY. I HAD INVESTED TO HAVE PRIOR TO THAT ZOSIA GRASS PLANTED FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW WHAT IT IS. IT'S A VERY NICE GRASS. AND I LIVE ON GREENWOOD CIRCLE, WHICH THE PEOPLE ON THE RESIDENTS ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
MINE'S WAS THE WORST. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN THE CITY.
I EMPHASIZED TO THE CITY THAT I HAD ZOSIA GRASS AND THAT IT WOULD BE IMPERATIVE THAT THEY GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THAT GRASS, THE SAME AS WHAT I HAD PRIOR TO THE SINKHOLE.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, THEY ASSURED ME THAT THEY WOULD.
I NOW AM THE. THE OWNER OF SOMETHING CALLED JOHNSON GRASS.
JOHNSON GRASS IS A WEED TYPE GRASS, VERY CHEAP, VERY.
I MEAN MY. I LOOK LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING YOU SEE ON THE SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.
MY. I HAVE MY LAWN MAN. GO AHEAD AND CUT IT. AND IN TWO DAYS THE WEEDS COME BACK.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN CUT OR ADDRESSED.
THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR, I'M NOT A HORTICULTURIST.
I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN GRASS, BUT I KNOW WHAT I PAID FOR AND I KNEW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. I LIVE AT 2424 GREENWOOD CIRCLE.
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COME BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY AT THIS POINT IS THAT THE RESIDENTS.I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DECLINE. I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, I DO APPRECIATE WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL HELP FROM THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL. IN TERMS OF GETTING MY PROPERTY BACK TO WHAT IT ONCE LOOKED LIKE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE THIS EVENING.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.
[X. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]
DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.I DO NOT TAKE SERVING ON THE CITY COUNCIL LIGHTLY.
WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS, SCREENSHOTS AND EMAILS REGARDING CONCERNS ABOUT RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY OF EAST POINT. RESIDENTS THAT I REPRESENT EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT THE $27 MILLION DEFICIT.
BUT THEN $10 MILLION HAD BEEN FOUND OVER THE LAST 48 HOURS.
AND TO BE HONEST, THAT FIGURE RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT THE ACCURACY AND TIMING OF FINANCIAL REPORTING, ESPECIALLY GIVEN PRIOR YEARS OF BALANCED BUDGETS AND MAINTAIN RESERVES AND EVEN THE CITY RECEIVING AWARDS FOR FINANCIAL COMPETENCY. ADDITIONALLY, MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY HAVE ALSO ADDRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT POSSIBLE EMPLOYEE LAYOFFS OR EARLY RETIREMENT OPTIONS AS OF FRIDAY, APRIL 17TH, 2026, SOME DEPARTMENTS AND EMPLOYEES HAVE ALREADY BEEN REASSIGNED, WHICH HAS CREATED A CULTURE OF FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY AMONG STAFF.
THESE ISSUES WERE NEVER BROUGHT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THEM.
ALTHOUGH SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THESE ACTIONS, I DID NOT.
THE CITY WENT THROUGH AN ENTIRE PANDEMIC AND MANAGED NOT TO LAY PEOPLE OFF.
THAT IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A VOTE.
IT'S ALSO BEST PRACTICE THAT WHEN MANAGERS ARE REORGANIZING THAT, THEY LET THEIR SUPERVISORS KNOW IF THERE IS A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT, THEN ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FULLY BRIEFED.
WE OWE THE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY, CLARITY, AND A COMPLETE ACCOUNTING OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION.
SECTION 5-101 ON OR BEFORE THE SECOND REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL OF EACH YEAR, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL SUBMIT TO THE CITY COUNCIL A BUDGET.
AS OF 7:56 P.M.. WE JUST RECEIVED THE BUDGET.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
I HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
THE FIRST TWO ARE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN WARD.
BE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE BISTRO BY WHISK IS NOW OPEN AT 1509 NORMAN BERRY DRIVE.
THAT IS A NEW RESTAURANT PROVIDING BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND COFFEE FOR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY.
THEY'RE OPEN MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM 8 A.M.
ALSO, I'D LIKE TO REPORT THAT THE VEGAN HOUSE OF PANCAKES, LOCATED AT 1367 CLEVELAND AVENUE, WILL HAVE ITS RIBBON CUTTING THIS SUNDAY AT 10:45 A.M.
AND SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME OUT TO ENJOY THAT, THEY WILL BE THERE FROM 10 A.M.
TO 4 P.M.. LASTLY, I REGRET TO INFORM MANY OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE PASSING OF A LONGTIME STAUNCH COMMUNITY ACTIVIST, MISS GWEN MATTOCKS. MISS MATTOCKS LIVED AT HILLCREST ACTIVE SENIOR COMMUNITY, AND SHE WAS A HUGE PROPONENT FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVED THERE.
WHILE MISS MATTOCKS HAD ACCESS TO A VEHICLE AND WAS NOT ON ANY TYPE OF SCOOTER OR WALKER, SHE WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HER RESIDENTS, HER NEIGHBORS WHO HAD TO CROSS STAUNTON ROAD AND WAS THE FORCE BEHIND THE CITY INSTALLING A CROSSWALK AND HAWK SIGNAL THERE.
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BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT BECAUSE SHE WAS SO ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WAS THE FORCE BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE.AND THOSE ARE ALL OF MY MESSAGES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT'S COME OUT TONIGHT AND SPOKEN UP OR JUST YOUR PRESENCE, YOUR VOICE AND YOUR PRESENCE DEFINITELY MATTERS.
WE DON'T REPORT TO OUR CITY MANAGER, ATTORNEY OR CITY CLERK.
WE REPORT TO YOU ALL. AND I'VE LEARNED THAT WHEN YOUR BOSS SHOWS UP TO WORK AND PROVIDES FEEDBACK AND SETS EXPECTATIONS THAT WE NEED TO LISTEN, I DEFINITELY WANT TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT I'M HEARING.
THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION AND TALKS ABOUT A $27 MILLION DEFICIT AND POTENTIAL OF LAYING OFF EMPLOYEES.
I'VE PERSONALLY ATTENDED EVERY MEETING SINCE WE'VE BEEN ELECTED IN JANUARY.
AND ALSO I'VE BEEN APPOINTED TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE MEETING.
I'VE NOT SEEN ANY DATA TO THIS DATE THAT SHOWS THAT THERE WOULD BE A DEFICIT OF THAT SIZE.
SO TO COMMUNICATE A MESSAGE TO EMPLOYEES AS MY COUNCIL MEMBER, MARTIN ROGERS SAID, CREATES A CULTURE OF FEAR WHICH NEVER PRODUCES GOOD RESULTS. ALSO JUST TO BE CLEAR AND TO RESTATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS STATED, ANY DECISION AROUND LAYOFFS SHOULD COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL. I WANT TO THANK AT LEAST THE CITY MANAGER FOR PROVIDING US WITH THE BUDGET.
I'M EAGER TO LOOK THROUGH IT AND ALSO TO FUTURE CONVERSATIONS.
I TO SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS WITH RESIDENTS. AND A BIG CONCERN THAT THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED DOESN'T APPEAR TO ALIGN WITH OUR ORDINANCES. I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT I'LL SHARE.
WHEN WE GET TO THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE COUNCIL PERSONS IN TERMS OF YOU GUYS ARE OUR BOSSES.
WE REPORT TO YOU AND IT IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT AND HELP AND HELP THE CITY MANAGER DO HIS JOB. I WILL STOP THERE. BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HEARD.
IF I'M GETTING A MESSAGE THAT. IS THAT RIGHT? YES THAT'S CORRECT. SHE'S IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
OKAY. EXCUSE ME. COUNCIL COMMENTS. OKAY. YES.
YOU'RE MUTED. COUNCIL MEMBER HAMMOND, CAN YOU.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF OR DO I NEED TO? OKAY.
MADAM MAYOR, MAY I BEGIN MY COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING. WE CAN HEAR YOU AND THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE AND ITS RESIDENTS.
I WANTED TO SHARE I'M NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT BECAUSE I HAD TO TRAVEL FOR WORK AND WASN'T ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE ENGAGEMENT, BUT I KNEW THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE TOGETHER AND FOR ME TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SHARING.
I HAVE MOVED TO COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN AT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.
THE VERY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING ON JANUARY 5TH, WE RECEIVED A BUDGET TIMELINE THAT OUTLINED SOME IMPORTANT STEPS THAT WOULD HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS. IMPORTANTLY, IN REACTION TO THAT TIMELINE, I ESTABLISHED A SERIES ABOUT LOCAL MONEY ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT WITH THE INTENTION TO HELP US BETTER ENGAGE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE BUDGET.
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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE COME TO COUNCIL ABOUT THE LAYOFFS.I WANT TO SHARE THIS AND SHARE THIS. IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS, HOW TO APPLY THOSE REVENUE, REVENUE STREAMS EFFECTIVELY, AND IMPORTANTLY, HOW TO DELIVER SERVICES IN WAYS THAT ARE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE FOR YOU.
I HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET TOWN HALL ON MAY 13TH SO THAT WE CAN TOGETHER WALK THROUGH THIS BUDGET DILIGENTLY AND IMPORTANTLY, SO THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF COUNCIL.
SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT HAS COME OUT THIS EVENING AND SHARED YOUR CONCERNS.
I HEAR THEM, I FEEL THEM ALL THE WAY HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA.
AND I PROMISE YOU THAT YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION, AND I WILL BE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS, THE ORDINANCES, AND DELIVERING THE BEST SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF EASTPOINTE THAT YOU DESERVE.
THANK YOU. I YIELD, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING IN THERE WITH US.
[XI.3. Proclamation Honoring Lolita L. Higginbotham]
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT.THAT FIRST PRESENTATION WILL BE A PROCLAMATION TO MISS LOLITA HIGGINBOTHAM.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AS YOU'RE COMING UP, I'M GOING TO.
WELL, FIRST, IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US TONIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEN I'M GOING TO START TO READ YOUR PROCLAMATION, AND THEN WE WILL COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE.
ALL RIGHT. AND SO, OKAY, THE PROCLAMATION OFFICE OF THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, GEORGIA, IN RECOGNITION OF MISS LOLITA HIGGINBOTHAM. WHEREAS, EAST POINT, WHEREAS EASTPOINTE RESIDENT MISS LOLITA HIGGINBOTHAM HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED AS A VOLUNTEER WITHIN THE ATLANTA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR 33 YEARS, BEING BEGINNING HER SERVICE AS THE CONTINENTAL CONNALLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DURING 191992 THROUGH 1993 SCHOOL YEAR. WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT HER DISTINGUISHED TENURE, MISS HIGGINBOTHAM HAS PROVIDED DEDICATED SUPPORT ACROSS ALL GRADE LEVELS KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FIFTH THROUGH FIFTH GRADE, DEMONSTRATING VERSATILITY, CONSISTENCY, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO STUDENT STUDENT DEVELOPMENT.
SHE HAD, WHEREAS SHE HAS ASSISTED TEACHERS IN CLASSROOMS, INSTRUCTIONS, INCLUDING INDIVIDUAL ONE ON ONE SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS, ENSURING THAT CHILDREN RECEIVE THE ATTENTION AND ENCOURAGEMENT NECESSARY TO THRIVE ACADEMICALLY AND SOCIALLY.
SHE HAS FURTHER, WHEREAS SHE HAS FURTHER STRENGTHENED STUDENT GROWTH BY ASSIGNING.
BY ASSISTING CHILDREN WITH THE CRITERIA WITH AT THE CAFETERIA, WHILE PROMOTING POSITIVE BEHAVIOR AND GOOD TABLE MANNERS AND PROVIDING HOMEWORK SUPPORT DURING AFTER SCHOOL, REINFORCING ACADEMIC PROGRESS BEYOND THE CLASSROOM DAY.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF EAST POINT RECOGNIZES SUCH SUSTAINED, SELFLESS SERVICE REFLECTS THE HIGHEST IDEALS, IDEALS OF VOLUNTEERISM, AND POSITIVE POSITIVITY IMPACTING GENERATIONS OF STUDENTS AND FAMILIES WITHIN THE ATLANTA PUBLIC SCHOOL AREA.
AND THEREFORE, BE. IT PROCLAIMED THAT I. KEISHA CHATMAN, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY HONOR MISS HIGGINS.
THANK YOU. I'LL ALLOW COUNCIL COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY TAKE THIS TIME TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, LOLITA.
HE CAN BOTTOM. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH MISS HICKENBOTTOM FOR MANY YEARS, AND IT'S TRULY REWARDING TO SEE SO MANY OTHERS RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE HER HARD WORK AND DEDICATION. HER COMMITMENT NOT ONLY TO THE LOCAL SCHOOL WHERE SHE HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT ALSO TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY IS INSPIRING.
AND CONGRATULATIONS, MISS HICKENBOTTOM. AND WE HAVE WORDS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS.
YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS HIGGINBOTHAM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE MEADOWLARK ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION ABOUT MISS HIGGINBOTHAM'S MANY YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AND VOLUNTEERISM AT CONTINENTAL COLONY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO SELFLESS AND GIVING OF YOURSELF TO POUR INTO ALL THE YOUNG CHARGES AT CONTINENTAL COLONY.
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IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.ECOMMENTS. ANYBODY ELSE? DID YOU DID YOU REMOVE NUMBER FIVE RIGHT HERE? YOU GOT A PRESENTATION? NO. OH, JOHN CLAYTON'S HERE.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE OH THAT'S STILL TAKING PICTURES.
OKAY. COUNCIL WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE GOVERNMENT TAX SOLUTIONS BY THE CITY MANAGER. I'M SORRY.
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GO AHEAD. YEAH. MADAM MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO A[XV. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]
LONG STANDING, PRESSING REAL ESTATE MATTER THAT WOULD REQUIRE EXECUTIVE SESSION.I WOULD ASK THAT WE HAVE SOME GIVE SOME, SOME, SOME GRACE TO ALLOW US TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. BECAUSE A PERSON THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MEET WITH IS AVAILABLE, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO BE LEAVING.
SO I ASK THE COUNCIL TO GIVE THAT CONSIDERATION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT? I'D BE WILLING, MADAM MAYOR, TO MAKE A MOTION FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM, BUT ONLY FOR 15 MINUTES. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING TO GET THROUGH THE AGENDA.
DO WE? I THINK THAT I COULD. SECOND. SECOND. I'M SORRY.
YES. DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. QUICK QUESTION. SO WOULD THIS BE THE ONLY REGULAR SESSION IF WE DO MAKE IT ONE ITEM? THIS IS JUST FOR SOMEBODY. SO IT SAYS THIS IS JUST FOR THE ONE ITEM.
WE WILL HAVE TO OPEN IT BACK UP IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
THANK YOU. SO, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. DID YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY. DID YOU? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK. WAS THAT TIME SUFFICIENT? OKAY. EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR 15 MINUTES. OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? WE WILL NOW STEP INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL, CAN WE MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO RETURN TO THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING AND CONCLUDE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU. THE AYES HAVE IT.
WE ARE NOW BACK INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING. AND NEXT WE HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE PRESENTATION. I THINK WE HAVE LOBBYISTS. MR. CLAYTON HERE TODAY TO SPEAK WITH US AND GOVERNMENT TAX.
ISN'T IT. OH I'M SORRY. BECAUSE HE TOOK IT OFF THE ITEM BEFORE WE WERE GOING TO ASK THE TABLE THAT.
[XI.4. Government Tax Solutions]
SO. YEAH. THE TAX SOLUTIONS. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAD THAT STAFF IS DOING, RESPONDING TO. AND IT HAS BEEN ASKED THAT IT BE TABLED BY STAFF.SO. OKAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD. NO MADAM MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
SO, MR. CITY MANAGER, ARE YOU ASKING TO TABLE OR DEFER? BECAUSE TABLE WOULD REQUIRE THAT WE COME BACK TO IT LATER IN THE AGENDA.
IT CAN DEFER THIS FOR A LATER MEETING. YES, MA'AM.
YES, SIR. LATER IN THE MEETING, A LATER MEETING.
OKAY. SO, MADAM MAYOR, WITH THAT, THEN I MOVE THAT WE TABLE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR SECOND.
OKAY. ANY. NO. A TABLE IS FOR THIS. I WOULD DEFER WOULD BE NEXT MEETING.
RIGHT. ARE WE DOING. BUT HE WANTS A TABLE. SO IT WOULD BE.
IT WOULD BE DEFER. ITS THE NEXT MEETING. ITS NEXT MEETING.
HE WANTS. YOU WANT A DEFERRAL. YES I THEN I WITHDRAW MY MOTION TO TABLE AND MOVE TO DEFER TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SECOND.
SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR? NO. GO AHEAD. YES. AND I'M GLAD THIS ITEM IS GOING TO BE DEFERRED.
AND NORMALLY THE VALIDITY, THE VALIDITY PROCEEDS OR THE PROCESS IS BETWEEN 60 AND 120 DAYS, 180 DAYS, BUT RARELY MORE THAN A YEAR. THIS MATTER SHOULD BE REISSUED THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS, AS THE ORIGINAL PROCUREMENT IS NEARLY 20 YEARS OLD.
WE'VE HAD UPDATES TO OUR ORDINANCES, AND THE ONE THAT STANDS OUT IS THE LOCAL OPTION PREFERENCE.
AND ALSO THIS IS A VIOLATION OF THE CHARTER SECTION 4-3305, IN WHICH THE COMMUNICATION WE RECEIVED IS THAT THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER. THEY ARE NOT THE SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER.
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WHERE'S THE REVIEW THAT WE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED FROM OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION? THE ONLY REVIEW THAT I'VE SEEN WAS MAYBE A ONE PAGE MEMO, AND I CANNOT IN GOOD FAITH, SUPPORT THIS RFP CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN ETHICS POLICY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS AND TO ALSO GO ON RECORD.SECTION 2-501 FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY. ELECTED OFFICIALS AND APPOINTED OFFICERS HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO CITIZENS AND SHOULD ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES THAT BENEFIT THE CITIZENS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
JUST TO GO BACK TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS ASKED CITY MANAGER, IS THERE A GOOD FAITH REVIEW AND REPORT THAT WE CAN SEE? I MEAN, THAT IS BASED ON OUR RULES, THAT IT STATES THAT A SINGLE SOURCE MUST HAVE THAT GOOD FAITH REPORT OR REVIEW.
THANK YOU. SO THIS GOES THIS HAS GONE THROUGH PROCUREMENT.
SO JUST BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER IS LISTED HERE, IT IS ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED AND ROUTED THROUGH PROCUREMENT. AND IT IS A SINGLE SOURCE WHICH YOU USE.
THE RIGHT TERM AS A SOLE SOURCE IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT PROTOCOL.
SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR EASILY TO BE CONFUSED.
BUT THEY MEAN VERY DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CONTRACTORS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY LEGAL, EVERYTHING IS READY TO GO, BUT IN, IN THE DESIRE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS SO THAT THINGS AREN'T MISCONSTRUED.
STAFF HAS ASKED TO DELAY THIS, DEFER THIS TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND APPARENTLY THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. I THINK THAT THIS IS A VIABLE SOLUTION.
IS THE THE PROBLEM THAT I'M HAVING WITH IT IS FOREGOING THE BIDDING PROCESS.
AND THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS THE UNDER OR NO COST.
ANYTHING THAT HAS 12,500 OR MORE SHOULD GO THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS.
AND THEN THE SINGLE SOURCE OR THE, THE SOLE SOURCE PIECE.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT THE REASON THAT WE ARE FOREGOING THE BIDDING PROCESS? AGAIN, I'M THAT'S A LITTLE BIT INTO THE WEEDS FOR ME.
I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE DIRECTOR. OH, HERE, HERE HE IS.
HE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SINGLE SOURCE.
IT WAS A SINGLE SOURCE. THE JUSTIFICATION WAS GIVEN BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
IT WAS RECEIVED. IT WAS ACCEPTED. THE SINGLE SOURCE WAS BASED UPON.
IT'S NOT BASED UPON THE ACTUAL RFP ITSELF. RIGHT.
AS COUNCILMAN DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS SAID, THE RFP IS EXPIRED.
IT'S OLD. WE'RE NOT USING RFP. WE'RE USING A SINGLE SOURCE, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT METHOD.
RIGHT. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PROCUREMENT METHOD, IT'S ALSO THE FACT THAT BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY WERE THE WINNER OF THAT RFP FROM OVER 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, WE VIEWED THAT PROCESS, RIGHT? WE VIEWED WHAT THEY HAD AND WE UTILIZED THAT AS A SINGLE SOURCE JUSTIFICATION.
SO YOU HAVE YOUR SOLE SOURCE, WHICH MISTAKENLY WAS MENTIONED.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS A SINGLE SOURCE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE JUSTIFICATION WAS RECEIVED AND HIT THOSE POINTS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, IF IT'S UP TO THE WILL OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'LL PUT IT BACK OUT. WE'RE NOT FIGHTING TO NOT PUT IT BACK OUT.
HOWEVER, THIS IS A SINGLE SOURCE, JUST THAT CAN BE USED AND WE'VE USED MANY TIMES.
THANK YOU. I'M STILL IN. YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH, IT WAS JUST DYLAN. SO TWO THINGS. I MEAN, IN THE ORDINANCE SOLE AND SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT IS ONE DEFINITION FOR IT.
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SO ALTHOUGH I HEAR YOU WITH IT BEING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, IT IS ONE DEFINITION FOR IT THAT REQUIRES THAT GOOD FAITH REVIEW.THE OTHER THING IS WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THE CONTRACT OR ALL OF THE PRICING.
ABSOLUTELY. THE I'M WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT NOW AND MAKING SURE WE GET THE THE REQUEST FROM DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS ABOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO PUT THAT WITHIN THE CONTRACT. SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SOMETIME THIS WEEK.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BEING HAVING THAT REWRITTEN.
SO THEY ONLY HAD THE DEFINITION OF SOLE SOURCE.
BUT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, TWO DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT METHODS. THANK YOU.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY. HAVE COUNCIL MARTIN.
DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS NEXT AND THEN COUNCIL ZIEGLER.
COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER. YES. THANK YOU. SO IF IT WERE TO GO BACK OUT WITH AN RFP, WHAT BENEFIT WOULD WE GET? BECAUSE THIS IS ALREADY NO COST TO THE CITY. WHAT, WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD ANOTHER VENDOR POSSIBLY GET US? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN. THE WAY THAT THIS WAS EVALUATED IN THE SENSE OF TIME, I KNOW THAT THIS WAS PAST, YOU KNOW, SO MANY YEARS.
HOWEVER, WE DID LOOK AT HOW MANY RESPONDED DURING THAT TIME.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS WEIGHED IN THAT IN THAT REGARD, I CAN'T SEE IT BEING BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS COMPANY PROVIDES THIS VENDOR ACTUALLY LIKE THEY PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE FOR NEIGHBORING CITIES.
SO THIS, THIS IS NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUMPING INTO A POOL AND NOT KNOWING WHAT'S IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE KNOW FROM NEIGHBORING CITIES WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS REGARD.
SO THANK YOU. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PRESENTATION STATED WHEN WE, WHEN WE RECEIVED IT, THEY'RE NOT GOING AFTER SINGLE ELDERLY PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF EGREGIOUS OFFENDERS IN OUR CITY AND KNOWING THAT WE NEED TO COLLECT AS MUCH TAX MONEY AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH STUFF WE HAVE TO DO.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT DELAYING THIS ANY FURTHER WOULD ONLY HURT US.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE I'M THINKING I KNOW THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY HAVE LOOKED AT CERTAIN BLIGHTED PROPERTIES OR CERTAIN PROPERTIES THAT ARE ARE NUISANCE CASES AND THEY ALSO DO NOT PAY THEIR TAXES.
AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT.
WE'RE NOT COLLECTING IN GOOD FAITH. WE'RE NOT MAKING A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO COLLECT THOSE THOSE BACK TAXES ON THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, ARE CAUSING PEOPLE TO LIVE IN HELL. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER.
COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. MR. ME. COUNCILWOMAN. MARTIN, ARE YOU IN? COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL. ME? NO. ARE YOU IN? NO, SHE'S NOT IN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. HOWEVER, THIS IS ALL THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS RECEIVED, AND IT IS DATED APRIL 7TH FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, REQUESTED BY THE MANAGEMENT ANALYST. SINGLE SOURCE JUSTIFICATION.
THE JUSTIFICATION READS AS FOLLOWS. THE CITY PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED A PROCUREMENT PROCESS UNDER RFP NUMBER 2009-1348 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT, REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.
GOVERNMENT TAX SOLUTIONS WERE SELECTED THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
HOWEVER, THE CITY DID NOT UTILIZE THE SERVICES AT THAT TIME.
THE NEED FOR PROFESSIONAL DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTION SERVICES STILL EXISTS.
THE CITY CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE CHALLENGES IN COLLECTING OUTSTANDING PROPERTY TAXES IN THESE SERVICES WOULD ENHANCE THE CITY'S ABILITY TO RECOVER DELINQUENT REVENUES EFFICIENTLY AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAWS.
BASED ON GTE'S PRIOR SELECTION THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS, ITS EXPERTISE IN GEORGIA TAX COLLECTION PROCEDURES AND ITS NO COST SERVICE STRUCTURE TO THE CITY, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY PROCEED WITH THE GT AS A SINGLE SOURCE PROVIDER FOR THESE SERVICES.
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AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY.ETHICS. A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THROWING THOSE WORDS OUT, BUT THIS IS A PART OF TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUT NEVER HAVE I EVER SEEN A COUNCIL OR A LOCAL MUNICIPALITY VOTE ON AN RFP THAT'S 17 YEARS OLD. AND I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE OTHER COLLECTION TECH SERVICES OUT THERE.
SO YES, THERE IS AN ISSUE. YES, WE MUST ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
BUT TO JUST DO THIS AND THIS BE THE ONLY JUSTIFICATION IS JUST NOT ENOUGH FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS BEING CIRCUMVENTED.
LIKE WHY CAN'T IT GO BACK OUT? AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, COUNCIL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL NEED TO WORK ON SOMETHING IN OUR PROCUREMENT CODE THAT AFTER ONE YEAR IT NEEDS TO BE REROUTED. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THIS ISN'T A THIS THIS, THIS JUST IS NOT ENOUGH JUSTIFICATION FOR ME.
THEY WERE OUT THERE IN 2009. WE'RE IN 2026. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I CAN SUPPORT THIS IF IT IS SENT BACK THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND I YIELD.
BUT I DO WANT TO READ WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS.
AFTER CONDUCTING A GOOD FAITH REVIEW OF AVAILABLE SOURCES, THE.
THE GOOD FAITH REVIEW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BRIAN ROGERS JUST READ OUT.
IT DIDN'T MENTION ANY OTHER AVAILABLE SOURCES OR REVIEW OF AVAILABLE SOURCES.
WE WERE GOING TO USE THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT THEY PRESENTED A VERY SIMILAR SOLUTION.
AND THAT LETTER REFERENCES ONCE AGAIN, A 17 YEAR OLD RFP.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT AS WELL. I JUST DON'T WANT TO FOREGO OUR BIDDING PROCESS.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS SAYS, YES, THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE MISSING OUT ON IF WE DON'T GO OUT FOR BID.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER JONES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM OF THE AGENDA, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IT HAS BEEN SECONDED, SO WE HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THAT ITEM BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
CORRECT. I THINK THERE'S A MOTION THAT'S STILL ON THE TABLE, THE MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL NEXT MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NO.
TO DEFER THE MOTION TO DEFER. OKAY. BUT WE'RE IN WE'RE IN VOTING NOW BECAUSE WE WERE IN DISCUSSION.
OKAY. I'LL TAKE BACK MY NAME AND SEND IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY.
THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. AND THIS ITEM WILL BE DEFERRED TO THE NEXT MEETING.
THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
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LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATION PRESENTATION. LOBBYIST JOHN CLAYTON IS HERE FOR THAT PRESENTATION.AND I THINK THERE WAS A HANDOUT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I'M JOHN CLAYTON. I'M HERE WITH GEORGIA PUBLIC AFFAIRS.
I BELIEVE I CAME TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL IN JANUARY AT THE BEGINNING OF SESSION.
I HOPE ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO GET THE TWO PAGER THAT I KIND OF PASSED OUT TO EVERYONE.
AND I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT SPECIFICALLY. TRY NOT TO GO WORD FOR WORD, BUT PROBABLY WILL HIT MOST OF THEM. BUT THE GEORGIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY CLOSED THE 2026 SESSION IN THE EARLY HOURS OF APRIL 3RD, AND WHEN THE DUST SETTLED, MANY OF GEORGIA'S CITIES WERE IN A BETTER POSITION THAN MOST HAD EXPECTED GOING IN.
PROPERTY TAX REFORM, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, DOMINATED THE SESSION.
BUT CHANGE THE CITIES CAN WORK WITH. SB 33 REPRESENTS A SCALED BACK APPROACH.
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IMPORTANTLY, THE FINAL BILL DOES NOT IMPOSE CAPS ON CITY REVENUES OR BUDGETS AND DOES NOT REDUCE OR ELIMINATE ANY LOCAL SALES TAX.I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY, REALLY BIG DEAL GOING INTO SESSION.
THOSE ARE REALLY THE MOST TWO SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS THAT MOST CITIES WOULD HAVE DURING THIS SESSION.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE LEGISLATION DOES MAKE REAL CHANGES TO FUTURE TAX ASSESSMENT INCREASES.
CITIES THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY OPTED OUT OF HB 581, WHICH EASTPOINTE DID NOT DO.
THIS WAS A FLOATING HOMESTEAD. EXEMPTION WILL NOW BE BROUGHT UNDER THAT FRAMEWORK.
BY BRINGING ALL CITIES AND COUNTIES INTO THE HB 581 FRAMEWORK.
AND THAT IS PENDING VOTER APPROVAL AS EARLY AS NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
FLOSS PROVIDES ACROSS THE BOARD PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
SO THE DIFFERENCE IN THEM IS ONE OF THEM CAN BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL RENTAL PROPERTY.
ANYTHING. A HOST CAN ONLY BE USED FOR HOMESTEAD TO REDUCE REDUCE TAXES THERE.
WHILE SB 33 REPRESENTS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, IS A CONSIDERABLY IMPROVED, CONSIDERABLY IMPROVED OUTCOME COMPARED TO EARLIER PROPOSALS AND REFLECTS A REALLY BALANCED APPROACH, WE BELIEVE, TO PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.
NOW THERE'S A FEW OTHER BILLS BEYOND PROPERTY TAX THAT I THINK HAD A SIGNIFICANT INTEREST FOR EASTPOINTE, AND SOME OF THEM WE TALKED ABOUT IN JANUARY. HOUSE BILL 651 Y'ALL SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, BUT THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS.
THIS WAS PASSED THIS PASSED IN A MORE MEASURED FORM THAN EARLIER VERSIONS.
THE BILL PRESERVES THE USE OF THE CAMERAS WHILE ADDING NEW GUARDRAILS TO INCLUDE UPDATED NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, CLEAR LIMITATIONS, AND A REQUIREMENT FOR VOTER VOTER APPROVAL TO IMPLEMENT OR RENEW THEIR USE.
SO IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING CONTRACT, YOU CAN CONTINUE THAT ON.
JUST IN THE FUTURE, THOSE CONTRACTS WILL REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL.
HOUSE BILL 463. I THINK Y'ALL HEARD A LOT ABOUT THEM TALKING ABOUT THE INCOME TAX.
THIS THIS WAS THE INCOME TAX BILL LOWERS THE STATE INCOME TAX FROM 5.19 TO 4.99.
AND ALSO PLANS FOR REDUCTION IN THIS INCOME TAX BY 1.25% EVERY YEAR TO 2035.
AND THE GOAL IS TO GET IT TO 3.99 BY 2020, 2035 HOUSE BILL 295.
THIS WAS THE HOMELESS ENFORCEMENT BILL. I'M SURE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS IN THE NEWS, BUT IT PASSED IN A VERY NARROW FORM AS WELL. A LATE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD HAVE BROADLY WAIVED SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY, IMMUNITY FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WAS REMOVED, AND THE FINAL VERSION INSTEAD ALLOWS FOR A MORE LIMITED LEGAL REMEDIES.
THE REMOVAL OF THE IMMUNITY WAIVER SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED THE POTENTIAL EXPOSURE FROM CITY.
SO ESSENTIALLY, THEY WERE SAYING IF IF SOMEONE WAS HARMED BY A HOMELESS PERSON, Y'ALL DIDN'T REMOVE THIS PERSON IN A IN A SCHEDULED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY COULD SUE THE CITY FOR THE HARM THAT THE HOMELESS PERSON DID TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, AS THEY SAID, THAT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY WATERED DOWN. I THINK THE CITIES THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPOSURE FOR ANY OF THAT SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY WAIVING PENALTIES THAT THEY WOULD. SO I THINK THAT WENT WELL FOR ALL CITIES.
THESE CHANGES WILL REQUIRE SOME ADJUSTMENT TO THE LOCAL LEVEL, BUT ALSO PLACES A GREATER RESPONSIBILITY ON THE APPLICANTS FOR THESE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMITS. AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS A THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US WHEN I CAME HERE IN JANUARY, BROUGHT TO ME WHEN I CAME HERE IN JANUARY. HOUSE BILL 10,009.
THE BILL DID PASS. IT BANS THE CELL PHONE, CELL PHONES IN HIGH SCHOOL FROM BELL TO BELL.
SO IF YOU ALL REMEMBER THIS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, THIS WAS ALREADY BANNED.
THIS JUST SPECIFICALLY APPLIES TO HIGH SCHOOL.
AND IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE WHILE TO KIND OF MOVE INTO THIS.
IT'S THE 27, 28 SCHOOL YEAR WHEN IT WILL BEGIN.
AT THE SAME TIME, SEVERAL BILLS WOULD HAVE POSED SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES TO EASTPOINTE DID NOT ADVANCE. NOTABLY, LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED MUNICIPAL ANNEXATION, FAILED TO RECEIVE A FINAL VOTE, AND IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. THE 2020. THE 2026 SESSION UNDERSCORES A BROADER REALITY.
CITY OFFICIALS SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN THE ROLE THEY PLAYED THIS SESSION.
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AND I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE IN THE FUTURE SESSIONS.THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE THIS MONTH WILL CERTAINLY HELP THE AGENDA THAT WE WILL CARRY INTO 2027.
AND I HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY MANAGER RECENTLY.
WE'D LIKE TO START THAT THAT PLANNING FOR THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR NEXT YEAR, MAYBE IN THE SUMMERTIME, SO AROUND JULY AND AUGUST. AND I KNOW A LOT OF Y'ALL THINK THAT'S EARLY, BUT IT'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU QUICK.
AND THANK, THANK Y'ALL FOR EVERYTHING. THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING THE CONFIDENCE IN US. OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. COUNCILWOMAN.
COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN FREELY. I DO APOLOGIZE, I HAVEN'T HAD MY COFFEE YET TODAY.
SORRY. THANK YOU. HEY THERE. JUST ONE QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
EXCUSE ME. ON THE SPEED ZONE CAMERAS THAT TO IMPLEMENT OR RENEW USE WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL BY VOTE. SO THEY WILL.
CORRECT. THAT IS THE YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CURRENT CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. BUT IN FUTURE, IF THE POLICE CHIEF WANTS TO PUT ONE IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL THAT GOES ON THE NOVEMBER, IT WOULD BE A VOTE IF YOU WANTED TO ADD NEW SPEED ZONE CAMERAS IN SCHOOL AREAS.
THERE WAS A THERE WAS A REALLY LARGE PUSHBACK THIS YEAR ABOUT SOME SOME MUNICIPALITIES EXPERIENCE A LOT OF ABUSE, MEANING THEY WOULD RUN THEM 24 HOURS A DAY, NOT JUST DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
AND THAT WAS A THAT WAS A HEAVILY DEBATED ISSUE THIS YEAR.
I WILL SAY THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN AND COUNCIL ATKINS. YES.
THANK YOU, MR. CLAY, FOR THIS UPDATE. YES, SIR.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A REFERENDUM IN GENERAL FOR THE CITY, OR DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC CAMERAS IN THE VARIOUS ZONES? I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TWO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ONE ON HEADLAND AND THE OTHER 1ST MAY BE ON CONNOLLY, BOTH AROUND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. SO WILL THE REFERENDUM BE ABOUT THE CITY UTILIZING SPEED CAMERA ZONES WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS, OR DO WE HAVE TO GO TO EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE, AND THEN DOES IT HAVE TO BE RENEWED AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME? SO IF WE PROBABLY. MULTI-POINTED QUESTION. SO IF THIS HAS TO GO TO A REFERENDUM AT SOME POINT AND THE CITIZENS VOTE YES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, THE CITIZEN SAYS THIS IS TOO MUCH LIKE WE FEEL THIS IS ABUSE.
IS, IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CITIZENS EVERY FIVE YEARS, EVERY TEN YEARS, OR ONCE THEY APPROVE IT, THEN THAT'S IT. I'LL ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE BEST ANSWER I HAVE ON OTHERS, SO I'LL BE DIRECT WITH THAT. ON THE RENEWAL, I DON'T KNOW.
I DO KNOW THAT IT WILL BE A CITY WIDE VOTE. SO ALL THE SCHOOLS WITHIN YOUR CITY IF Y'ALL, IF, IF EASTPOINTE WANTED SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO LEVY THAT TAX, THAT WOULD BE A VOTE THAT Y'ALL WOULD TAKE IN THE CITY.
SO JUST ONE VOTE AND IT WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE SCHOOLS WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS.
YES, SIR. YES, SIR. YES, COUNCILMAN. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, IF YOUR CONTRACT PER SE WAS A TEN YEAR CONTRACT AT THE END OF THAT CONTRACT, WOULD YOU HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A RF OR GO OUT FOR A VOTER VOTER REFERENDUM TO CONTINUE DOING THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I WOULD THINK MOST PEOPLE OR MOST SCHOOL SYSTEMS, THAT I WOULD PROBABLY JUST TRY TO RENEW THAT CURRENT CONTRACT THAT BILL SAYS SIX YEARS, I'LL HAVE TO CONFIRM SIX YEARS.
THE BILL SAYS YOU HAVE TO THINK. IT SAYS YOU CAN ENTER INTO A SIX YEAR CONTRACT.
I THINK, OKAY, BECAUSE A NEW VOTE WOULD BE REQUIRED EVERY SIX YEARS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WE WOULD WE CAN CONFIRM IT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S SIX YEARS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS TO ME IT'S LIKE IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO LIKE THE MOST LIKE WE HAVE TO GO BACK OUT TO THE VOTERS ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I'LL LET YOU GUYS GET WITH THAT.
BUT CERTAINLY I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
I WAS NOT UNAWARE OF THE SIX YEAR THING, SO I'LL DEFINITELY DEFER TO YOU ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THE IDEA I, I KNOW THIS WAS HEAVILY DEBATED IN THE LEGISLATURE WAS THE THEORY OF THE CURRENT CONTRACTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY MUNICIPALITIES WOULD HAVE OR SCHOOL SYSTEMS WILL HAVE THESE, THESE CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS.
AND THEY DID SAY THE CURRENT CONTRACTS WOULD BE RESPECTED.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE Y'ALL CURRENTLY ARE ON THOSE CONTRACTS, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO, MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE PROCESS. YEAH. MR. CITY MANAGER SITTING IN THIS EVENING, IF WE COULD WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN ENACTED.
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651 YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE CONTRACTS AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO EXTEND THOSE, THEN WHEN WOULD THE STATE REQUIRE US TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT? THANK YOU, I YIELD, YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER.HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU DOING? GREAT.
THANK YOU, MR. CLAY, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THESE UPDATES ARE, ARE, ARE GREAT.
AND YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES KIND OF THEY ALREADY COVERED MY QUESTIONS.
I DID TAKE THE DAY OFF THIS YEAR TO ATTEND, UNFORTUNATELY I LOST POWER FOR MOST OF THE DAY.
AND AND SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET READY IN TIME.
SO HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR I'LL BE ABLE TO ATTEND WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
WELL, COUNCILWOMAN, YOU ARE MISSED, I WILL TELL YOU THAT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HOSPITALITY AND FOR BRINGING THIS REPORT.
IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT CAME OUT OF THE SESSIONS, LIKE THE TOP 1 TO 3 THINGS THAT EAST POINT MAY NOT BE PUTTING INTO PLACE NOW, BUT CAN BE LOOKING OUT FOR IN THE FUTURE. AND MAYBE THAT HAS BEEN CAPTURED HERE.
BUT JUST LIKE, I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK PARDON ME, I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO WHAT I, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO KIND OF IF WE COME INTO LIKE THE GENESIS OF OUR OR OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT YEAR, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHILE THE STATE STILL HAS MONEY, MAYBE SOME STATE APPROPRIATIONS.
WE'VE NEVER REALLY GOTTEN INTO THAT BEFORE. I DON'T, AND THAT KIND OF WILL TAKE SOME GRINDING WITH SOME OF THE STAFF HERE TO SAY, HEY, WHERE Y'ALL LACKING? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S I KNOW WE HAVE A DNR HAS GOT A LEASE HERE WITH EAST POINT.
I MEAN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT WE COULD IF WE GET SOME STATE, MORE STATE INVESTMENT INTO THOSE AREAS SOME OF THESE TAX INCENTIVES, TAX RELIEF PLANS THAT THEY PUT OUT THERE. I HOPE THAT WE REALLY HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE, BECAUSE I DO THINK I KNOW Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL DIDN'T OPT OUT OF 581.
BUT SOME OF THAT THAT THAT F HOST WHICH WILL ALLOW HOMESTEAD RELIEF.
THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO. AND I DO THINK THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO WANTS TO, THAT'S A JUDGMENT CALL, REALLY A POLICY CALL FOR Y'ALL, BUT WHERE DO Y'ALL WANT TO GO AFTER ALL PROPERTY OR IS HOMESTEAD MORE IMPORTANT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A BOARD, Y'ALL MAY YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER ON THAT. IF YOU GO WHEN YOU WHETHER YOU GO WITH A COST OR AN L HOST ON THAT. THE OTHER THINGS IS THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY OUTSIDE OF THERE, YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT NEXT YEAR'S SESSION IS GOING TO BRING UPON US TILL YOU START HITTING THAT MIDTERM TIME FRAME.
THIS BEING AN ELECTION YEAR, WE'LL PROBABLY HEAR MORE THAN MOST.
BUT I ACTUALLY GOT TO STAY VIGILANT. THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THAT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS. I'M GOING TO, I'LL DEFINITELY BE IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH Y'ALL MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGH THERE TO SAY, HEY, THESE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT I WOULD HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
WE'VE DONE KIND OF A OR IN THE PAST, EXCUSE ME, WE'VE DONE KIND OF A FOUR POINT AGENDA A, B, C, AND D KIND OF LOOKED AT IT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO PICK OFF, YOU KNOW, 1 TO 2 AT LEAST AND, AND REALIZE THE NEXT TWO, WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR. YEAH.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO OKAY. DID WE REMOVE ITEM NUMBER SIX? WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT ONE. OKAY.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS FOR TODAY?
[XII. COMMITTEE REPORTS]
NO, NO. MADAM MAYOR. MOVE! YES, I HAVE A COMMITTEE REPORT.YOU DO? OKAY. YES. FROM THE HUMAN RESOURCE COMMITTEE.
ALL EVALS HAVE BEEN RETURNED FROM ALL FOUR OF OUR DIRECT REPORTS.
AND LET'S SEE TO THE HR COMMITTEE FOR DISTRIBUTION TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW.
SO WE'LL MEET THIS THURSDAY TO DETERMINE A TIMELINE TO DISCUSS THOSE EVALS AS A BODY.
AND THEN WE'LL MEET WITH THE DIRECT REPORTS INDIVIDUALLY TO GO OVER THOSE TO GO OVER THEIR EVALS.
SO IT WILL BE FORTHCOMING A CALENDAR DATE, JUST SCHEDULE A TIMELINE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AS A, AS A BODY TO DISCUSS THE EVALS. AND THEN FROM THERE WE'LL MEET WITH EACH ONE OF THE DIRECT REPORTS.
MITCHELL COUNCIL. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
[02:20:03]
I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE WILL BE HAVING OUR BUDGET AND FINANCE MEETING TOMORROW AT 6 P.M.VIA ZOOM. UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE ONE LAST MONTH DUE TO US BEING IN DC.
SO THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO ZOOM IN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE MEETING.
THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN FREELY. ON A SIMILAR NOTE, THE BLIGHTED PROPERTY TASK FORCE DID HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR LAST WEEK, AND WE DID PLAN TO HOLD IT, BUT THEN A CRITICAL STAFF MEMBER WHO WAS DOING A KEY PRESENTATION WAS OUT SICK.
AND SO WE, WE DID CANCEL THAT AT THE LAST MINUTE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO RESCHEDULE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMITTEE REPORTS.
ALL RIGHT. AND NOW WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[XIII. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY LET'S SEE WHERE'S MY.WITH THE COUNCIL LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT IS OR MAKE ANY UPDATES.
YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SEVEN THROUGH 22ND.
OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD.
SHE DID A SECOND, BUT I HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS. GO AHEAD. ITEM 18. SURE YOU WANT TO REMOVE IT FROM CONSENT? YEAH. NO, I JUST I JUST HAVE A QUESTION I WANT TO ASK.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK WE GOTTA TAKE IT OFF, SO WE'LL HAVE TO COME OFF CONSENT TO A NEW MOTION OR AMEND THAT TO I THINK IN ORDER TO TAKE IT OFF, IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AS PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA TO REMOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WHEN YOU APPROVED YOUR AGENDA. SO YOU HAVEN'T YOU DIDN'T TAKE IT OFF AT THE APPROVAL.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO TAKE IT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
BUT IF SHE HAS A QUESTION, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
JUST ONE QUESTION TO ASKED. I THINK IT'D BE OKAY TO ALLOW TO ASK A QUESTION.
OKAY. YOU JUST. IS IT OKAY TO ASK A QUESTION? IS IT. WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SECOND FOR IT.
AND NOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. YES. SORRY. OKAY. YOU READY? YEAH. OKAY. SO FOR ITEM 18, IT'S COUNCIL APPROVAL ACTION ON A VENDOR LAKESIDE SIGN COMPANY FOR THE RFP.
TO FOR THE, FOR THE PURCHASE OF THESE SIGNS. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE FROM A SHARED ITEM FROM BOTH PUBLIC WORKS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION FROM THE GEORGIA HOTEL MOTEL EXCESS EXCISE TAX.
ACTUALLY THIS, THESE SIGNS, THESE WAYFINDING SIGNS SHOULD THEY CAN BE TAKEN OUT OF THE TPD, WHICH IS OUR TOURISM PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS IDENTIFIED IN OCGA 48-13-50.26-8 THROUGH P, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ITEM J THAT IT SAYS THAT TPD WOULD COVER THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE. SO PERHAPS WE CAN LOOK AT REDIRECTING THOSE FUNDS AS OPPOSED TO SPENDING WHAT THE $1.462 MILLION COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THAT MONEY WILL COME OUT. IT WILL COME OUT OF THE TPD, WHICH IS A TOURISM PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT BUDGET.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR'S ATTENTION.
YEAH, WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU, I YIELD.
MADAM MAYOR. YES, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA, THAT FUNDING IS NOT FROM THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO PEOPLE DON'T MISUNDERSTAND.
THAT WHEN YOU SAY IT COMES FROM THE CAPITAL. FROM THE CAPITAL.
COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL. AND. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL ON THE FLOOR, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS.
AND THERE WAS A SECOND. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
OKAY. MOTION PASSES. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA ITEMS.
[XIV.21. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Approving the Corrected Contract Amount, for Vendor, Pike Electric, LLC (To Assist with the City’s Electrical Infrastructure) of Five Million ($5,000,000) Over 3 Years, Which Reflects the Accurate and Intended Value Within the Contract Versus the Originally Approved Amount of Five Hundred Thousand (500,000), Which was Submitted with a Typographical Error (On the Agenda) and Therefore was Not Approved NOT TO EXCEED: $5,000,000 FUNDING SOURCE: CIP]
ITEM NUMBER 21. COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING THE CORRECTED CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR VENDOR.[02:25:03]
PIKE ELECTRIC LLC TO ASSIST WITH THE CITY'S ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE OF $5 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS, WHICH REFLECTS THE ACCURATE, THE ACCURATE AND INTENDED VALUE WITHIN THE CONTRACT VERSUS THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED AMOUNT OF $500,000, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED BY. TYPE. TYPE. TYPE. TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR BY TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR AND THEREFORE NOT APPROVED.NOT TO EXCEED $5 MILLION. FUNDING SOURCE FOR CIP COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS.
YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE. I'M SORRY.
OH, WE STILL HAVE. IT WAS THE COUNCILWOMAN MITCHELL.
AND THEN. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
IF WE IF WE HAD THE ACTUAL CONTRACT BASICALLY THE SAME QUESTION HAD IT BEEN CORRECTED? YEAH. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. AND THEN COUNCIL, HAS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REVIEWED IT? YES, IT IT HAS BEEN CORRECTED. AND THE LEGAL ATTORNEY WIGGINS SIGNED OFF ON IT.
OKAY. WELL, IF THEY DO, WE STILL WANT TO DISCUSS THE QUESTION.
OKAY. WAS IT WAS IT CORRECTED BY AMENDMENT? YES.
YES IT WAS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR $5 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS, WHICH REFLECTS THE ACCURATE AND INTENDED VALUE WITHIN CONTRACT VERSUS THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED AMOUNT OF 500,000. WHICH IS LOCATED IS ITEM NUMBER 21 ON THE AGENDA.
SECOND. SECOND. YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OH, OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NAY. THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 22.
[XIV.22. The City of East Point Council Will Need to Select Two Officials for the MEAG Power Competitive Trust. the Two Selected MEAG Power Competitive Trust Officials Are Authorized to Communicate City Decisions with Respect to the Trust by Jointly Executing Written Directions to MEAG Power and the Trustee. the Two City of East Point Trust Officials Signatures Are Needed to Move Transfer and Move Funds Within the Trust. The City of East Point Trust Officials is Not Limited to a One Year Term, and Can Extend Longer.]
THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO SELECT TWO OFFICIALS FOR THE POWER COMPETITIVE TRUST.AND. OKAY, THE TWO SELECTED POWER COMPETITIVE TRUST OFFICIALS ARE AUTHORIZED TO COMMUNICATE CITY DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE TRUST BY JOINTLY EXECUTING WRITTEN DIRECTIONS TO POWER AND THE TRUSTEE.
THE TWO CITY. THE TWO CITY OF EASTPOINTE TRUST OFFICIALS.
SIGNATURES ARE NEEDED TO MOVE, TRANSFER AND MOVE FUNDS WITHIN THE TRUST.
THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE TRUST OFFICIALS IS NOT LIMITED TO A ONE YEAR TERM AND CAN EXTEND LONGER.
COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM TO BE THE TWO OFFICIALS FOR THE MIAC POWER COMPETITIVE TRUST. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM NUMBER 23. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON WINTER SUMMER RATE STUDY.
[XIV.23. Discussion and Possible Action on Winter/Summer Rate Study]
COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE.DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE WINTER AND SUMMER RATE STUDY.
SECOND, I MADE A MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, SIR.
GO AHEAD. DID SOMEONE WHO SECONDED THE MOTION.
I'M SORRY, MITCHELL. I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. IT'S A DISCUSSION. IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION.
OKAY. THANKS. YES, AND THANK YOU. ARE WE IN FOR DISCUSSION? YOU'RE IN FOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT.
DID WE VOTE? WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. YEAH, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.
DISCUSSION. YES. AND WE'VE DONE THAT. RIGHT. WE'VE ALREADY OPENED IT.
OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPEN IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO THESE ARE THE NOTES THAT I HAVE BECAUSE I HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH.
AND I IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I GO ON RECORD AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
[02:30:05]
I HAVE ABOUT SEVEN POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS EVENING, BUT THE FIRST ONE IS HOW IS IT THAT AS A MEMBER OF EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL, I WAS NEVER MADE AWARE OF THE SUMMER RATE CHANGE UNTIL A CITY FACEBOOK PAGE WAS SHARED WITH ME.AND THEN CAME THE TELEPHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS THAT I REPRESENT.
BY THE TIME I SENT AN EMAIL TO CITY ADMINISTRATION AND RECEIVED AN ANSWER BACK, IT WAS AFTER 10:00 PM, PER THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OR IN THE MIDDLE OF A RATE STUDY RIGHT NOW TO RELY ON OUTDATED DATA, ONLY TO REVISIT RATES AGAIN AFTER A STUDY IS PREMATURE BUT UNFAIR TO RESIDENTS.
BUT IT CREATES CONFUSION AND FINANCIAL STRAIN IS DEMONSTRATED HERE TONIGHT, A PRESENTATION BY THE ELECTRIC AUTHORITY CONFIRMED THE CITY CHOSE NOT TO IMPLEMENT SEASONAL RATES, A DECISION THAT PRIORITIZED RESIDENTS AND KEPT THEIR FINANCIAL WELL-BEING AT THE FOREFRONT. THE CITY HAS FUNDS TO DEAL WITH THIS SHORTFALL WITHOUT PLACING IT ON THE RESIDENTS, AND THOSE ARE CALLED THE MCCARTHY FUNDS, AND WE HAVE MILLIONS IN THAT ACCOUNT.
INCREASE. AND BASED ON THE FOLLOWING ELECTRIC.
HAD THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT HAD BUDGET TRANSFERS OF $2,123,000 AND $46. AND THEN ANOTHER TRANSFER OF ALMOST $3 MILLION, TOTALING THOSE UP.
THAT'S ALMOST $4.9 MILLION. IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT A DEFICIT WHEN NEARLY 5 MILLION HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE ELECTRIC FUND.
I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT A RATE CHANGE AT THIS TIME.
DECISIONS OF THIS MAGNITUDE FALL UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE COUNCIL, AND IT IS THE COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DEBATE, VOTE ON AND COMMUNICATE CHANGES TO THE RESIDENTS.
THE CITY MANAGER'S ATTEMPT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT PROPER COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT UNDERMINES THE ROLE I WAS ELECTED TO FULFILL IN SECTION 2-302 POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY MANAGER SHALL SUBJECT TO THE POLICY CONTROL DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. ANY MORE? ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION.
OH, COUNCILWOMAN. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, I DO SHARE SOME SIMILAR SENTIMENT WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE, THE PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT THE SUMMER RATE.
IT DOESN'T ALIGN TO OUR ORDINANCES. AND HOPEFULLY MADAM CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU ASSIST IN BRINGING UP A COUPLE OF ORDINANCES TO TAKE A LOOK AT IN ADDITION TO THE PROCESS? WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION THAT WILL NOT ONLY SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS WHILE WE ADDRESS ANY OPERATIONAL COSTS.
THE FIRST ORDINANCE I WANTED TO PULL UP IS 8-2016, WHICH REFERENCES THE INDEX OF ELECTRIC RATES.
THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHES BOTH THE WINTER AND SUMMER RATES AS OPTIONS.
IT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2013. WHENEVER YOU PULL THAT UP.
NO. CAN YOU JUST TYPE IN WINTER? THIS.
THIS ISN'T IT. IT WAS 82016 IS WHAT I THOUGHT.
2006. IT'S THIS IT'S. 21062106 YEAH.
[02:35:11]
OKAY. SO THIS ONE HERE, LOOKING AT THE LAST SENTENCE OF THIS FIRST PARAGRAPH.OH, GO BACK UP. TO THE IT SAYS THREE PHASE SERVICE MAY BE FURNISHED WHERE AVAILABLE.
SO IT'S BASICALLY GIVING THREE OPTIONS THAT MAY BE NOT MUST BE FURNISHED WHERE AVAILABLE.
SO FOR THIS IT DOESN'T MANDATE THAT THIS IS BOTH RATES HAVE TO BE INCLUDED.
NOR DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY GO FROM ONE SCHEDULE TO ANOTHER YET IT PROVIDE AN OPTION? THE WINTER. THE WINTER ONLY OPTION WAS SELECTED AND HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS.
AND SO. FOR THIS FIRST PART, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A MANDATE TO GO FROM ONE OPTION TO THE OTHER.
AND SO THE ORDINANCE DO SHOW HOW WE CAN GET TO ANOTHER OPTION.
THE NEXT ORDINANCE WOULD BE SECTION 82101. DEFINITIONS G. ANNUAL REVIEW. SO THIS ORDINANCE TALKS ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET TO ANOTHER OPTION.
IT BASICALLY STATES THAT DURING BUDGET SEASON, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW, THE CITY SHALL COMPLETE AN ANALYSIS OF OUR BASE RATE COMPARED TO THE TOTAL COST TO DETERMINE IF OUR CURRENT RATES ARE SUFFICIENT FOR THE OPERATING FOR OPERATING THIS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY.
WE ARE LOOKING JUST TO HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO OPERATE THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT.
I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT SEEN A DETAILED ANALYSIS, AND IN DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND CONNECTING WITH OUR ELECTRIC CONSULTANT AT IG, I ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE $1.9 MILLION DEFICIT THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.
HOW DID IT COME ABOUT? AND ONE OF THE THINGS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS MENTIONED, THAT OUR IG CONSULTANT STATED, IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN TRANSFERS FROM OUR POWER FUND TO OUR GENERAL FUND.
INTERNAL DATA ALSO SUPPORTS THESE TRANSFERS TO THE TUNE OF $4.9 MILLION IN TRANSFERS IN.
TRANSFERS. AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHY. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT ANYTHING EGREGIOUS HAS HAPPENED.
BUT WE, WE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED WITH ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DETERMINE WHY THOSE TRANSFERS HAVE TAKEN PLACE, IN ADDITION TO THE ANALYSIS OF OUR OPERATING COSTS.
WE HAVEN'T DONE A RATE STUDY IN 13 YEARS, AND SO THERE MAY BE A NEED TO ADJUST OUR RATES, BUT AT LEAST IF WE HAVE THE PROPER INFORMATION, THEN WE CAN WE CAN CREATE THE RIGHT STRATEGY AND MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO RATES WELL BEFORE THAT TAKES PLACE. AND USE MULTIPLE CHANNELS, NOT JUST FACEBOOK OR SOMETHING THAT GOES OUT IN THE BILL A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE THE CHANGES TAKE PLACE.
THE LAST ORDINANCE I WANTED TO PULL UP IS 8-2009.
THIS REFERS TO RATES. AGAIN, ALL RATES SHALL BE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF TO MOVE TO SUMMER RATES.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE PAST, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO, IT'S ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO. AND WE SHOULD DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO ADHERE TO OUR ORDINANCE, HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION, PROPER INFORMATION AND MAKE A DECISION AS TO HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD BEFORE ACTUALLY MAKING ANY CHANGES.
I'LL YIELD AND LET OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CARDWELL COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMAN MITCHELL YES, THANK YOU.
SO THIS TO MY COLLEAGUE. SO I DID HAVE A COUPLE CONCERNS AFTER THIS LAST MEETING.
ONE, I BELIEVE IT WAS SAID AND I ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND LOOKED FOR THE MEETING.
THE MINUTES. SO DURING THE APRIL 17TH MINUTE.
I'M SORRY. APRIL 17TH, 2023 MEETING. I BELIEVE THIS ITEM CAME UP.
[02:40:01]
SO THAT'S JUST A BIT CONCERNING FOR A PROCEDURAL.I THINK THE OTHER CONCERNING THING IS I THINK THIS DEFICIT THAT YOU SAY, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GIVE THE DATE AGAIN? YEAH. APRIL, APRIL 17TH, 2023.
SO THIS IS JUST A PROCEDURAL MATTER. TO. THE DEFICIT.
I KNOW IT'S JUST MENTIONING THAT $5 MILLION TO TRANSFER IT FROM THE POWER TO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THEN THERE'S LIKE, I THINK WHEN I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH MISS CARTWRIGHT AND I COULD BE WRONG.
NOW THERE'S A $7 MILLION DEFICIT. AND SHE SAID SOME OF THAT WAS DUE TO OVER PROJECTION.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF I'M EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU, I GUESS FOR THE ELECTRIC, IF WE ARE EXPECTING TO MAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY BASED ON A CERTAIN TYPE OF RATE AND THE CALCULATE THE FORMULA ISN'T RIGHT. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP WITH THIS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS. AND SO SAY IF THEY DIDN'T ADJUST FOR SO SAY IF THEY SUSPENDED THE RATES AND WE HAVE A PROJECTION AT A HIGHER RATE.
HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT IN THE FORMULA THAT THEY USE IN THE PROJECTIONS.
THEY USED THE FORMULA FOR OUR BUDGET. I'M SORRY. THEN THAT CAN CAUSE A DEFICIT.
IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS OR FURTHER EXPLAIN HOW YOU HOW YOU GET THOSE, THOSE FIGURES, IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE USED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE USE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR STATING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE $10, RIGHT? BUT IT'S BASED OFF OF THAT SUMMER AND WINTER RATE GOING BACK AND FORTH.
IT'S NOT OUR RATE WASN'T DESIGNED TO JUST BE A YEAR ROUND RATE.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST HOW IT WAS DESIGNED. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO WHY IT WAS LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S DESIGNED TO. IN THE WINTER IT GOES DOWN AND IN THE SUMMER IT GOES BACK UP.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE TEN YEARS AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE RATES WERE DESIGNED.
SO THAT'S WHY, LIKE YOU SAID, SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS WILL BE OFF, RIGHT? RESULTING BECAUSE OF THE COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT THAT EXCHANGE.
SO THE SHORTFALLS WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE UP WE DIDN'T BECAUSE OF THOSE YEARS.
ALSO, I JUST, I LIKE INFORMATION AND I LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE TO KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE.
COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL THE THREE PHASE, IT'S NOT THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS, RIGHT? IT'S IT'S TALKING ABOUT THERE'S TWO TYPES OF POWER.
SO IN THAT LAST SENTENCE, IT WASN'T TALKING ABOUT LIKE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT MORE SO SINGLE PHASE VERSUS THREE PHASE. SO I HOPE I CLARIFIED WHAT YOU WAS ASKING.
COUNCILMAN. MITCHELL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THE PROCEDURAL ISSUE. IF WE CAN'T FIND, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW OUR OWN LAWS. IF WE CAN'T FIND WHERE THESE RIGHTS WERE SUSPENDED.
I'M ALL FOR CHEAPER RATES. HOWEVER, I THINK WE CAN VOTE ON THAT IF WE WANT TO DO THIS PROPERLY.
I THINK WE HAVE THE POWER AS A COUNCIL. AND DEFINITELY LISTENING TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND I KIND OF FEEL FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOME, THIS, THAT, AND THE THIRD BUT WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE ALL OF THIS MAKE SENSE AND MAKE SURE THE CITY HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO OPERATE. SO WE'RE NOT TAKING FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND SUBSIDIZING THESE COSTS.
[02:45:04]
WHICH I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE CAN DO, REALLY DO THAT.BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK WE'RE HAVING OUR BUDGET AND FINANCE MEETING TOMORROW.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, PRESENTING MORE DETAILS. I THINK THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO SEE HOW DEEP THIS HOLE GOES. I THINK THIS WEEKEND THEY'RE STILL TURNING IN DOCUMENTS.
WAITING FOR IT, WAITING FOR THE AUDIT TO GET BACK TO THEM.
SO I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD, FOR US TO COME UP WITH A RATIONAL FORMULATED PLAN, HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AND THEN AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN KIND OF DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD. BUT I YIELD.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE WE'RE STILL ON ROUND ONE, BUT YOU TWO.
OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS I THINK THAT ZIEGLER IS IN.
OH, YOU JUST TYPED IN. GO AHEAD. ZIEGLER. ZIEGLER.
OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BROAD PICTURE OF THE FINANCIAL SITUATION, THE POWER DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HOW MUCH IN OUR ORDINANCE WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A RESERVE AND HOW MUCH WE'RE MEETING THAT ALREADY? AND THEN ADDITIONALLY HOW THIS NEARLY $2 MILLION SHORTFALL COMES INTO PLAY WITH THE GENERAL BUDGET OF THE POWER DEPARTMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT IN THAT QUESTION.
SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER. I, AND I WILL SAY IF I MISS A BEAT, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
I'VE LITERALLY BEEN HERE SINCE FRIDAY AND HAVEN'T BEEN HOME.
I'M SORRY. CITY MANAGER JONES, BEFORE YOU START, CAN WE MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT YOUR QUESTIONS ARE AGAIN SO HE CAN ANSWER THEM? MAKE SURE. YEAH. JUST SO JUST TO REPEAT AGAIN THE THE RESERVES, HOW MUCH IS THE, HOW MUCH DOES THE ORDINANCE SAY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN OUR POWER DEPARTMENT FOR RESERVES? AND WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT ORDINANCE? HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO COLLECT? AND THEN AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THIS $1.9 MILLION SHORTFALL, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE RESERVE WHERE DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY? AND AND WHERE IS, HOW IS THAT REALLY FACTORED INTO THE POWER DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
OKAY. SO IN ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RESERVES, AND CERTAINLY IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT OVER PROJECTIONS AND OVER PROJECTIONS HAPPEN IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO IF YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN BY IG IT DEALT AND TALKED ABOUT OVER PROJECTIONS OF OUR CAPITAL. WE HAD ESSENTIALLY MADE PROJECTIONS OF WHAT OUR REVENUES WOULD LOOK LIKE TO PAY FOR THE CAPITAL THAT WE ENDEAVORED INTO, WHICH WERE IN THE PROCESS.
AND, AND YOU'VE SEEN THE WORK BEING DONE ON BEN HILL.
AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER PHASES AS A PART OF HARDENING OUR GRID.
THAT WAS BASED ON A RATE THAT WAS STRUCTURED TO HAVE WINTER AND SUMMER.
IT'S NOT A SEPARATE RATE WHERE YOU PAUSE OR, OR DO SOME KIND OF TRANSITION.
IT'S ONE RATE. AND SO IT'S AUTOMATIC AND IT'S CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IT'S SO AUTOMATIC THAT IT KICKS IN THIS MONTH AND ENDS THIS MONTH, AND THE NEXT ONE KICKS INTO THIS MONTH AND ENDS AT DEATH.
IT'S AUTOMATIC IN THE ORDINANCE. NOW THAT BEING SAID THERE WAS SOME INDICATION THAT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE AT A STAFF LEVEL, THERE WAS A SUSPENSION. AND THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS BEEN SAID SEVERAL TIMES, CITY MANAGER CAN'T DO THAT. AND CERTAINLY ANYONE WHO ANSWERS TO THE CITY MANAGER CANNOT ADJUST ON THE WHIM OF ORDINANCE.
THAT BEING THE CASE, MAYBE THAT STAFF DIRECTIVE WAS BASED ON SOME TYPE OF COUNCIL DIRECTIVE, EITHER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR IN OPEN SESSION, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A RECORD.
THERE WAS NO RECORD THAT WE COULD FIND. SO THAT BEING THE CASE AND FRANKLY, THERE'S BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE WE FOUND VERY OTHER, SOME OTHER SIMILAR SITUATIONS WHERE ORDINANCES WEREN'T BEING OBSERVED.
AND WE'VE MADE THE CORRECTIVE ACTION. THIS IS AS SIMPLE, SIMPLE AS THAT.
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SHOULD THE ORDINANCE CHANGE? THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT STORY.BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT HAS HAD AN EFFECT ON OUR ABILITY TO MEET OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY.
AND SO THOSE PROJECTIONS DIRECTLY RELATE TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL BY ECG.
NOW THERE'S ANOTHER CHALLENGE, WHICH IS OVERALL CITY PROJECTIONS, WHICH IS A MUCH DEEPER CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL BE HAVING AS A PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. THAT ALSO AFFECTS ALL OF THE ENTERPRISES IN, IN WHAT YOU'LL PROBABLY TYPICALLY SEE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OUR FINANCES IS ALL FUNDS AND ALL FUNDS THAT THAT INCLUDES ENTERPRISE FUNDS, GENERAL FUNDS, AND EVERY OTHER FUND THAT IS ESTABLISHED THAT THE CITY TAKES IN FOR THE VARIOUS THINGS WE DO.
MANY OF THEM HAVE RESTRICTIONS. SO ANY TIME THAT YOU INTERRUPT REAL QUICK.
SORRY. YES. SO SORRY. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT STATES HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED AS A IN RESERVES FOR THE POWER DEPARTMENT OR A POLICY.
WE. WE DO. IT'S CALLED THE FUND STABILIZATION.
AND HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? THAT'S A QUESTION THAT REQUIRES RESEARCH.
OKAY. I WILL SAY WHAT ADDS TO THE NUANCE. THERE'S A MCT AND THE QUESTION IS DOES THE M C, D, M, C T OVERLAP WITH THE CITY'S REQUIRED POLICY AND THE STABILIZATION POLICY? I WOULD SAY IT DOESN'T. BUT THERE'S SOME THAT SAY IT DOES.
AND WE'RE RESEARCHING HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE ESTABLISHED BY GETTING THE FOUNDING DOCUMENTS FOR MCT AND GETTING CLARITY ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AND HOW, WHAT WERE THE DIFFERENT METHODS THAT YOU USED TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS? WE UTILIZED ROBOCALLS SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE. OUR WEBSITE.
AND THE UTILITY BILL. OKAY. YEAH, I GOT, I GOT MY NOTICE AT THE LAST, WHEN I GOT HOME FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I OPENED UP MY MAILBOX. MY BILL WAS IN THERE, I OPENED IT AND THE NOTICE OF SUMMER RATES WAS IN THERE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MY QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. MADAM MAYOR, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
OKAY. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SHE SHE WOULD JUST HAVE TO UNMUTE HER MIC. COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU CAN UNMUTE YOUR MIC.
SHE SHE HASN'T SPOKEN AT ALL. OH, YES. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU CAN UNMUTE YOUR MIC. OKAY.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? SHE HASN'T SPOKEN AT ALL.
OH, YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S A YES.
SO I'M GOING TO GO. I CAN'T TELL THERE'S A DELAY ON THE END, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND IT'S PICKING UP ON A THREAD OF QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL WAS ASKING.
MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, ARE THERE DIFFERENCES IN THE WAY THAT THIS BODY WOULD I GUESS LEGISLATE? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IS IT ACCURATE THAT A MOTION IS TYPICALLY USED FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES THAT A RESOLUTION WOULD ESTABLISH LIKE POLICY OR PROVIDE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE FORMALLY, AND THEN THAT ORDINANCES WOULD BE USED TO ESTABLISH THE LAW.
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IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, MOST OF.MOTIONS SECONDS AND A VOTE IS USED TO PASS ANYTHING BY THIS COUNCIL.
RESOLUTIONS. ORDINANCES. POLICIES. SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THE LEGISLATIVE VEHICLE TO ACHIEVE WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. IT'S DONE BY A, YOU HAVE TO BE IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
IT HAS TO BE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL ON AN ADVERTISED AGENDA, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE PROCEDURAL THINGS IN PLACE FIRST BEFORE THIS COUNCIL CAN APPROVE A MOTION, I'M SORRY, APPROVE A RESOLUTION, AN ORDINANCE OR ANY TYPE OF POLICY THAT THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE.
ARE YOU STILL WITH US, COUNCILWOMAN HEMMINGS? OKAY, THAT WAS HER ONLY QUESTION.
OKAY. MAYBE WHEN SHE IS ABLE TO. ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ROUND TWO? THIS IS ROUND ONE, RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS RELATED TO COUNCIL MEMBER CALDWELL'S QUESTION.
EASTER COUNCILWOMAN HEMMINGS. YES. OKAY. THAT WAS HER ONLY QUESTION OR.
A DELAY, DELAY, DELAY. OKAY. OKAY.
MAYBE WHEN SHE IS ABLE TO. ANOTHER QUESTION. BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ROUND TWO? ROUND ONE. RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS.
OKAY. COUNCIL WE'RE STILL IN ROUND ONE. COUNCILWOMAN HEMMINGS IS HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO ARE WE OKAY? THAT'S WHAT.
I HOPE I JUST GOT AN ALERT FROM THE CITY CLERK THAT SAYS IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO CONTINUE MY QUESTIONS.
SO I'M. I'M HOPING THAT I'M NOT SPEAKING OVER SOMEONE.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE ACCOMMODATION SO THAT I COULD PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING. THE NEXT QUESTION I ALSO HAVE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I'LL STATE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS AND THEN MAYBE THEY CAN BE ANSWERED. THE NEXT QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IS RELATED TO COUNCIL MEMBER CALDWELL'S QUESTION ABOUT SECTION 8-202106 RELATED TO THE SHELL LANGUAGE. AND THEN IT SOUNDED LIKE MR. DOE GAVE SOME MORE INSIGHTS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WINTER AND SUMMER RATES.
I WAS WONDERING, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU COULD WEIGH IN ON THAT.
AND THEN ALSO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER, AND I PRESUME THAT HIS RESPONSE MIGHT BE SIMILAR TO THE RESPONSE HE GAVE TO COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER, WHICH IS SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT BUDGET IMPACT.
AND I AM VERY CURIOUS IS ABOUT WHAT THIS SUMMER RATE MOVE WOULD ADD TO THE BUDGET LIKE IS THIS IS BY GOING TO SUMMER RATES GOING TO PRODUCE A NET OF, I DON'T KNOW, UPWARDS OF 100,000, 200,000.
I DON'T KNOW. COULD YOU GIVE COUNCIL A SENSE OF THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT THIS CHANGE WOULD ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH, AND HOW IT WOULD HELP US ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE MENTIONED? AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY IS WHAT PRECEDENT DO WE SET IF WE WERE TO VOTE IN, I DON'T WANT TO SAY OPPOSITION OF AN ORDINANCE, BUT VOTE IN A WAY THAT THE ORDINANCE MAYBE IS NOT SET UP.
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I GUESS, STATED DIFFERENTLY? IS THERE IS THERE A CHALLENGE OR A PROBLEM? IF COUNCIL WERE TO MAKE SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVES THAT DIRECTLY I'M USING QUOTATION MARKS HERE VIOLATE ITS ORDINANCES? AND I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS. SO I'M ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO WEIGH IN.WHAT'S THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS IMPACT OF THIS CHANGE.
AND I'M ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN ON KIND OF WHAT PRECEDENT IT WOULD SET.
AND I YIELD AND I WON'T GO IN FOR A SECOND ROUND GIVEN THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE ACCOMMODATION. SO I WILL, I WILL TAKE TAKE THE START.
AND I KNOW DIRECTOR DAO IS GOING TO FINISH UP WITH PROBABLY MORE SPECIFIC NUMBERS, BUT I WILL I WILL SHARE THIS ANALOGY THAT WE, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT DURING THE ECG PRESENTATION WHEN VERY SIMILAR QUESTION WAS WAS PRESENTED BY THE TIME WE GET IMPLEMENTED THE THE GET BACK ON THE NORMAL CYCLE, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY STOP THE BLEEDING IF YOU WILL, BUT IT WOULD NOT IT WOULD NOT BALANCE US.
THE WAY THAT I RECALL IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT FOR A WHOLE YEAR TO GET CLOSE TO STARTING TO STABILIZE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DIGGED OURSELVES AS A WHOLE. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN NUMBERS.
I THINK DIRECTOR DOW CAN GIVE MORE INSIGHT AS TO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I KNOW I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE WE WILL.
WE'LL BE USING WE'LL BE IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT DURING THE WINTER, RIGHT.
AND WHEN WE KICK OVER INTO THE SUMMER, THEN THAT THE DEFICIT WILL CHEW UP AND WE'LL GET REAL CLOSE TO ZERO WHERE IT. WE'RE NOT FOR PROFIT, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE MEETING OPERATIONS AND WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BALANCE OUR BUDGET JUST ON THE ELECTRIC SIDE.
SO THAT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, THE RATES WERE DESIGNED.
THANK THANK YOU. I THINK COUNCIL COUNCILMAN ATKINS WERE YOU NEXT OR DID ARE YOU STILL GOING? THE ATTORNEY HAS QUESTIONS FOR DOCTOR HENLEY.
I BELIEVE A PART OF COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING'S QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE PRECEDENT.
I KNOW WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL THAT THERE WAS A DATE OF IT BEING CONSIDERED IN 2023? YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I'M ACTUALLY DOUBLE CHECKING THAT DATE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
SO AS, AS FAR AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF THIS ORDINANCE BEING CHANGED.
AS I SAID IN THE MEETING LAST WEEK, IF. IF THERE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE, NOT BY COUNCIL, BUT SOMEONE IN STAFF THAT ELECTED TO NOT FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ULTRA VIRUS ACT, WHICH MEANS THEY WERE OUTSIDE OF THEIR AUTHORITY BECAUSE, AS HAS BEEN STATED BY COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS AND COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CHANGE RATES. SO IF SOME STAFF PERSON CHANGED OR ELECTED TO NOT FOLLOW THIS ORDINANCE, THAT CHANGE WOULD HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE OF THEIR AUTHORITY AND IN VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
SO TO GO TO TO FOLLOW YOUR ORDINANCE IS SETTING A GOOD PRECEDENT THAT THE LAWS THAT YOU GUYS PASSED, YOU FOLLOW US. TO NOT FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE OBVIOUSLY SETS A PRECEDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THE ORDINANCE WILL NOT BE FOLLOWED.
AND SO I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT. AND I'LL SAY FOR TO, TO END IS THAT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE RATES NOT FLUCTUATE, THEN THIS ORDINANCE WILL NEED TO BE CHANGED.
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OTHERWISE, I HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THERE BEING SOMETHING ELSE IN PLACE THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THE TRIGGERING OF THE SUMMER RATE IN MAY. THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.THERE'S NOTHING THAT CONTRADICTS IT. THIS COUNCIL HAS NOT PASSED ANYTHING TO SAY.
COUNCIL BEEN SENT TO MUNICODE FOR CODIFICATION AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE DIRECTOR AS BEING THE THE PRECEDENT FOR SINCE HE'S BEEN HERE TEN YEARS. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. DID WE WRAP UP THAT ROUND? OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN ATKINS AND COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS.
THERE WAS I HEARD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER CHANGING THE RATES, BUT WHAT YOU JUST READ IS THAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT THESE ARE THE RATES. AND SO THERE WAS NO CHANGE OF THE RATES BY THE CITY MANAGER THAT THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT WHAT IS WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, THAT THOSE ARE THE RATES. AND THOSE RATES COME IN, I GUESS, DIFFERENT DURING DIFFERENT PERIODS OF THE THE YEAR. BUT THOSE ARE THE RATES THAT WERE PASSED BY THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED.
AND NO ONE CAN FIND EVIDENCE OF THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. MADAM CLERK, THIS IS A QUESTION TO YOU.
MONTHS AGO, THIS BODY HAD ASKED YOU TO COMPILE A COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT OF ALL BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS, AND ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE THE CITY OF EASTPORT MUNICIPAL UTILITY COMMISSION.
MR. DERUBEIS DID SPEAK THIS EVENING. MR. CITY MANAGER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS SPEAK ABOUT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY TO BE MADE AWARE AND ABREAST OF ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO RATES, BUSINESS OPERATIONS FOR ANY OF OUR UTILITIES, POWER BEING ONE OF THOSE.
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU TELL US IF THERE ARE SUFFICIENT MEMBERS OF THAT COMMISSION FOR THAT COMMISSION TO BE SEATED SO THAT THE CITIZENS ARE BEING MADE ABREAST OF THIS INFORMATION AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH INTO THESE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT IS A STRUCTURED MECHANISM. BY WAY, WE ARE ABLE TO GET INPUT FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS.
YES IT IS. AND I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO PULL IT UP REAL QUICK.
I GUESS WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT GUESS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT IT COULD BE JUST AS QUICK TO GO AROUND JUST TO ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, HAVE THEY APPOINTED SOMEONE TO THE COMMISSION? AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ENOUGH MEMBERS TO CONSTITUTE A QUORUM TO SEAT THE COMMISSION.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGER QUESTION. ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE THE LIST UP. I JUST SCROLL DOWN TO IT.
SO WE HAVE NAPOLEON. BLACK. CHOUINARD. COLE, ANTHONY DERUDAS, JASMINE, JASMINE WELCH, DEMARCUS CRUSE, AND ERNESTINE PITTMAN. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A.
I HAVE A PERSON TO MINE. I, I APPOINTED SOMEBODY, BUT THEY'RE NOT LISTED.
OKAY, SO COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER SAYS SHE APPOINTED SOMEONE. THEY'RE NOT LISTED. THAT'S SEVEN, I THINK THAT I HEARD, BUT I APPOINTED SOMEONE AND THEY'RE NOT LISTED.
THAT'S EIGHT. PERSON AS WELL THE MAYOR STATING THAT SHE HAS.
I THINK I APPOINTED MR. WAYNE LEWIS FROM STILL ON THE WAY.
OKAY. SO IT'S CHALLENGING THAT THIS INFORMATION IS NOT CORRECT OR UPDATED, BUT IT'S EVEN MORE CHALLENGING THAT WE HAVE MECHANISMS AND WAYS FOR CITIZENS TO HAVE INPUT INTO THIS PROCESS FOR OUR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, AND WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.
AND SO THEY'RE COMING HERE AND THEY'RE FRUSTRATED.
AND I'M FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE 2025, WHEN I GOT SEATED IN DECEMBER.
AND AS MR. RUBIO STATED THIS EVENING, HE'S BEEN APPOINTED SHORTLY AFTER I GOT ON COUNCIL.
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THEY'VE NEVER MET. THEY'VE NEVER MET. AND SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENGAGE THE CITIZENS, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD GIVE THEM A FALSE HOPE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH INTO THESE CIVIC PROCESSES.AND SO THIS BODY WOULD NEED TO THEN DISSOLVE THE COMMISSIONS.
IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEEK THE MEMBERS AND HAVE THEM TO ACTUALLY ENGAGE AS A PART OF OUR CIVIC PROCESS, I YIELD. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL OH, THANK YOU. I JUST AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SO I THINK IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT WE COULD NOT FIND WHERE. THE RATES WERE SUSPENDED, I THINK WE SAID.
DID WE SAY THAT EARLIER? OKAY. SO JUST DOUBLING BACK.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE AND I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY TWO ORDINANCE TO CHOOSE FROM.
AND WE'RE RUNNING THESE RATES WITHOUT THE VOTE OF COUNCIL.
I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST WE SHOULD CORRECT THAT.
HOWEVER I THINK WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CORRECT THAT.
IF WE JUST VOTE ON, I DON'T THINK IT'LL TAKE A WRITTEN RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. PLEASE STEP IN IF I'M, IF I'M SAYING SOMETHING OUT OF PLACE BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE IS ALREADY THERE, WE HAVE TWO TO CHOOSE FROM.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY UP TO US TO MAKE THIS LEGIT.
AND IF WE WANT TO STAY ON THE RACE THAT WE ARE NOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO US BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE WORKING OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND WITH OUR CHARTER ONE BY NOT, LIKE I SAID, IF APPARENTLY THE WAY THE SPIRIT OF THE WAY THIS ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO CHANGE FROM WHAT WAS IT FROM MAY TO OCTOBER, SUMMER RATES.
I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN FUNCTIONING AND OPERATING AND PROJECTING OUTCOMES AND REVENUE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE MAKE THAT OFFICIAL SO WE CAN GET YOU GUYS A BETTER PROJECTION COMING FROM, I GUESS, BUDGET AND FINANCE OR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'LL BE LESS LIKELY TO RUN THESE DEFICITS.
SO I THINK ONCE WE GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, I'M ALL FOR KEEPING IT AT THE SAME RATES.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. SHAUN HAS ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, MONEY TO OPERATE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY'S NOT THERE AND WHATEVER IT MIGHT DERIVE FROM THAT, AND WE MIGHT FIND SAVINGS SOMEWHERE ELSE. I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE OUR OPERATIONS ARE FUNCTIONING OR FUNCTIONING.
BUT THAT'S JUST COUNCIL OUT THERE. I'M SORRY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE IN NO, NO NO NO. OKAY.
NO NO, NO. SO I WAS SAYING, LIKE I SAID, ONE, I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION JUST TO MAKE SURE. OKAY.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THAT THE CITY HAS NEEDS TO FUNCTION.
AND I THINK, I THINK HONESTLY, FOR US TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION, WE STAY AT THE RATES.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET OUR REPORT FROM MR. CITY MANAGER ON WHAT'S GOING ON A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH OUR FINANCES AND ITS AND ITS ALLEGED DEFICIT, WE HAVE. AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CARDWELL I WAS NEXT, I WAS NEXT.
THANK YOU. AND MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU GO ON DOWN? I EMAILED YOU SOMETHING I NEED YOU TO BRING UP.
I'M SORRY, MADAM CITY CLERK. YES. THANK YOU. AND WHILE WE WAIT FOR THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE LAST RATE DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND WAS BACK IN 2013.
AND WE KNOW HOW HOSTILE THAT ENVIRONMENT BECAME.
MCT FUNDS CAN COVER THIS BALANCE. AND I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION WAS PASSED IN 2019.
AND THAT RESOLUTION IS CALLED THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE FUND BALANCE AND STABILIZATION RESERVE POLICY.
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AND VOTE FOR ADDITIONAL RATES? BECAUSE IF WE HAVEN'T HAD A TRUE RATE STUDY DONE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP.I MEAN, I WILL SUPPORT A RATES. I WILL SUPPORT A RATE STUDY, BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT GOING TO A SUMMER RATE JUST YET. WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION, WE MAY HAVE TO GO UP IN KILOWATTS.
THERE ARE SO MANY OPTIONS THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE US WITH A RATE STUDY.
ONE INCLUDES MAYBE A FLAT RATE YEAR ROUND 1ST MAY INCLUDE SEASONAL RATES YEAR ROUND, BUT BASED UPON WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED, I THINK THAT WE ARE IN NEED OF A RATE ADJUSTMENT.
SO THAT, I'M SORRY, A RATE STUDY SO THAT, AS COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL SAID, WE CAN MAKE A REAL INFORMED DECISION, BUT ALSO SO THAT I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM MY CONSTITUENTS.
NOW I'M HEARING THAT A ROBOCALL WENT OUT. THE FIRST THING I RECEIVED WAS A FACEBOOK POST.
I'M HEARING THAT MAIL WENT OUT. I RECEIVED SO MANY TELEPHONE CALLS ON FRIDAY THAT I HAD TO STEP AWAY FROM MY ACTUAL JOB TO TAKE THESE CALLS BECAUSE THE CALLS WERE COMING IN LIKE HOTCAKES.
SO I FEEL AS THOUGH I WAS BLINDSIDED, AND I FEEL THAT GOING TO A SUMMER RATE IS NOT A DECISION THAT SHOULD BE MADE BY THE CITY MANAGER. IT'S A DECISION THAT SHOULD BE MADE TO THIS COUNCIL.
AND THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS RIGHT HERE.
I REQUESTED THE MIG. WE GET MONEY BACK EVERY YEAR FROM MIG BECAUSE WE'RE OUR OWN POWER SUBSIDY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK RIGHT THERE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW THE MONEY, THERE'S A 2.1 MILLION I TALKED ABOUT.
IF YOU SCROLL ON DOWN, IT'S TRANSFERRED. TRANSFERRED.
TRANSFERRED FROM POWER TO GENERAL. FROM POWER TO THE GENERAL FUND.
KEEP GOING ON DOWN. I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.
THESE TRANSFERS ADD UP TO $4.9 MILLION. SO WE NOT ONLY NEED A RATE STUDY, WE NEED TO KNOW WHY THIS MONEY IS LEAVING THIS DEPARTMENT. AND THERE'S A TWO POINT THERE'S A 2.8 TRANSFER.
WHY THIS MONEY IS LEAVING THIS DEPARTMENT. GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
WE NEED A RATE STUDY DONE. GOING BACK TO THE POLICY THAT WAS PASSED IN 2019. RESERVE. RESERVE REFERS ONLY TO THE PORTION OF THE FUND BALANCE THAT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE STABILITY AND RESPOND TO UNPLANNED EVENTS OR OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS ON PLAN TO RESIDENTS AND I WILL SUPPORT A RATE STUDY.
I WILL SUPPORT CONTINUED DIALOG AND DISCUSSION.
I REMEMBER LAST TIME WHEN RATES WERE BEING CHANGED.
BUT RESIDENTS HAVEN'T BEEN AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY CONSTITUENTS, THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED ME INTO OFFICE, TO MAKE DECISIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CITY CLERK, AND I YIELD.
OH, I'M SORRY. I'M BACK IN FOR ONE MORE THING, AND I'M GOING TO GO ON RECORD AND READ SECTION 8-28-2002 RATES. ALL RATES FOR UTILITY SERVICES SHALL BE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SAID RATE STRUCTURE AND TABLE SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION AT CITY HALL AND ON THE EASTPOINTE WEBSITE. THIS NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S POINT.
WE WOULDN'T BE THERE. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT HAS JUST HAPPENED OVERNIGHT.
I REMEMBER PREVIOUS COUNCIL ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR RESIDENTS.
SO I YIELD AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL.
YEAH. I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND SAY THAT THIS IS A PROCEDURAL CHANGE.
FOR THE LAST 5 TO 6 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN ON A WINTER ONLY RATE.
AND SO TO MAKE THIS CHANGE WITH VERY LITTLE COMMUNICATION TO RESIDENTS IS WHAT'S CAUSING THIS SPARK.
WE HAD A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE IN HERE TONIGHT THAT ALL HAD ISSUE WITH THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION AROUND UNDERSTANDING THIS THIS SUMMER RATE THAT IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AND GOING INTO EFFECT. AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD.
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GENERAL FUND. THE PURPOSE OF RUSHING THIS RATE WITHOUT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION IS TO IS TO COMPENSATE FOR OPERATIONAL COSTS OR THIS DEFICIT OR SHORTFALL.BUT IF WE HAVE $4.9 MILLION THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING ABOUT, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.
LIKE, HOW DO WE GET TO A PLACE OF PUTTING THIS ON THE BACKS OF OUR RESIDENTS BEFORE TAKING AN INTERNAL LOOK TO DETERMINE WHAT WE NEED TO DO? THE OTHER THING IS OUR ORDINANCE DO. IT DOES SAY THAT WE SHOULD DO AN ANNUAL RATE STUDY.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE RUSHING TO PUT A SUMMER RATE IN PLACE WHEN WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE FACTS AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION TO MAKE IT, TO MAKE A DECISION? I WILL ANSWER ANY PART OF THAT.
4.9 SORRY, WE'RE THE 4.9 MILLION. WHY THAT WAS TRANSFERRED.
AND LET ME JUST BRING UP TWO OTHER THINGS. WE DO HAVE AN MCT FUND.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE CITY MANAGER HOW MUCH IS IN THE MCT FUND.
I DID SPEAK WITH THE IG CONSULTANT MYSELF, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE SUGGESTED WAS TO LOOK AT OUR MCT FUND TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEFICIT.
SHE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO A RATE STUDY, AND THE PURPOSE OF THE RATE STUDY IS TO DETERMINE WHAT IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAVE THE FUNDS THAT YOU NEED MOVING FORWARD.
WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF GOING TO THIS SUMMER RATE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS, BUT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT THAT IT IS GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO OUR RESIDENTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN CITY MANAGER IS COMING BACK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS IN THE MS FUND.
SO FIRST, FOR SOME OF SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO.
DON'T WORRY. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. THE, THE ONE QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
SO WE, WE ARE DOING A RATE STUDY, RIGHT? IG IS DOING THE RATE STUDY.
THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED, YOU KNOW BUT WE NEEDED THERE WAS SOME MORE INFORMATION NEEDED, WHICH THE YEAR JUST FINISHED WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION FROM ME AND YOU KNOW, DO THAT, DO THOSE NUMBERS WITH WHAT OUR WHOLE, OUR WHOLESALE POWER COSTS REALLY ARE. SO THEY SHOULD BE ALMOST FINISHED COMPLETELY WITH THE RATE STUDY.
AND CHO DID LOOK AT WHETHER DOING, KEEPING THE SUMMER WINTER RATES OR MOVING TO JUST ONE RATE ACROSS THE BOARD. SO HE DID LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SO I'M WAITING TO GET THAT FULL REPORT BACK AND.
WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE MC T FUND. HOW MUCH IS IN THE MC T FUND.
IT'S OVER $20 MILLION. I WANT TO SAY IT'S LIKE 27 MILLION.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THE MC T FUND CAN CAN BE USED TO OFFSET DEFICIT COSTS.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WHY WOULDN'T WE CHOOSE TO USE THAT MONEY TO OFFSET THIS COST? COMPLETE THE RATE STUDY SO THAT WE HAVE A FULL PICTURE OF HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD BEFORE IMPLEMENTING A SUMMER RATE AND COMING BACK IN ANOTHER FEW WEEKS TO IMPLEMENT A HIGHER RATE. THE REASON WOULD BE YOU HAVE TO THINK OF THIS.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOUR QUESTION IS ASKING, WHY DON'T WE JUST GIVE MONEY FROM A BANK? AND ASSUME THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT WHICH CREATED THE DEFICIT TO BEGIN WITH AND AND AND THEN SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO REPAY. SO WHEN A VERY SIMILAR QUESTION CAME UP WHEN IG GAVE THEIR PRESENTATION. I THINK HE WAS VERY CLEAR IN SAYING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO ACCESS AND REPAY.
RIGHT. THAT'S THE RATE STUDY. NO, THAT'S NOT THE RATE STUDY.
THAT WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
A RATE STUDY DOESN'T BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A RATE INCREASE RIGHT. SO SO UNLESS YOU HAVE A PLAN ON ON NEW REVENUES FROM SOMEWHERE TO BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE THE M, C, T AND, AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN BE GENEROUS.
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YOU CAN, YOU CAN EXTEND THAT OUT MAYBE TEN YEARS.YOU CAN, YOU CAN HAVE WAYS THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT VERY AFFORDABLE TO BE ABLE TO REPAY.
BUT YOU HAVE TO REPAY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU ASK THE QUESTION WHY. AND THAT'S WHY I I'M ANSWERING.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAN RIGHT NOW. SO THERE THERE MAY BE OPTIONS TO OFFSET THIS DEFICIT BEFORE MOVING TO A SUMMER RATE THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE ALSO SAYING IS GOING TO POTENTIALLY OFFSET THE DEFICIT, BUT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
I YIELD ON THE DISCUSSION. I DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
I JUST ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS NOT A SUMMER RATE IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S A SEPARATE RATE.
YOU HAVE A VASCULAR RATE, IT'S ONE RATE AND IT VACILLATES.
AND I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED IF THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS TO HAVE A FLAT RATE BEING THAT YOU WANT THAT RATE TO BE SAME? AN AVERAGE BETWEEN THE SUMMER AND THE WINTER RATE WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT FLAT RATE.
IF YOU IF YOU PREFER THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT CAN CONFUSE PEOPLE, THEN THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE IS NOT PRESENTING OPTIONS. IT'S NOT PRESENTING DIFFERENT RATES.
IT'S PRESENTING ONE RATE THAT FLUCTUATES BASED ON THE TIME OF THE YEAR.
IT'S THAT ONE RATE THAT YOUR CAPITAL EXPENSES HAVE BEEN BASED ON AND PLANNED AROUND.
AND FOR SOME REASON IT WAS SUSPENDED. AND FROM BEST WE CAN TELL, IT WAS DONE IMPROPERLY AND WE HAVE TO GET BACK ON THE RIGHT SYSTEM TO BEGIN TO BEGIN, NOT TO RIGHT THE SHIP, BUT TO BEGIN TO STOP THE BLEEDING AND TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF WRITING THE SHIP. THE RATE STUDY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S PART OF A NORMAL PROCESS THAT WE DO PERIODICALLY.
AND WHEN THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU WAS BASED ON COST OF SERVICE, BASED ON RATES.
AND IF WE JUST LOOKED AT THAT BREAKDOWN, IT WOULD BE CLEAR THAT WE ONE NEED TO GET THE.
ONE THAT WE NEED TO GET ON A NORMAL CYCLE, AND TWO, THAT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT OUR RATES.
SO IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR OR. IT'S LIKE THIS IS BROKEN.
WE NEED TO START FIXING IT. AND RATE STUDY IS JUST A PART OF THE FIX.
I AGREE. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. DO I THINK WE'RE IN DISCUSSION STILL.
LET ME JUST LET ME JUST. OKAY. CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION NOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS IN THE ROOM? YES. WE JUST PRESENTED SOME DATA, $4.9 MILLION TRANSFERRED FROM POWER FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT 4.9 MILLION, WHY 4.9 MILLION WAS TRANSFERRED FROM THE POWER FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND? WHAT DID THAT GO TOWARDS? I'M GOING TO DIRECT.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE WHY, THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT I KNOW.
SO WE DO MAKE TRANSFERS FOR OUR SALARY, SALARIES, WAGES AND ALL THE INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING.
WE MAKE TRANSFERS FROM THE ELECTRIC FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
SALARIES, WAGES, INSURANCE, ALL OF THE RETIREMENT, ALL OF THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION? NO, NO, I NEED WE NEED TO FINISH OUR ROUNDS OF DISCUSSION.
YEAH. IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. OH, AND THEN YOUR LAST COUNCILWOMAN.
SO. ZIEGLER. ATKINS. CALDWELL. CUMMINGS AND THEN MITCHELL.
DO I GET A CHANCE? BECAUSE, LIKE EVERYBODY'S SPOKEN AND I JUST LET ME.
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WHATEVER Y'ALL'S PROCESS IS AT THIS YOU GOT TO SPEAK FURTHER.SHE CAN GO FIRST. SO GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS. I'M SORRY.
SO THERE ARE A TON OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS THAT ARE HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S GOOD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS HAS FOUND FOUR POINT X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
SHE'S FOUND THAT MONEY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES.
WHAT IT SPECIFICALLY TOOK CARE OF, DIRECTED OUT, TOOK A GOOD GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CORRECT GUESS OR NOT, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE CAN RATTLE OFF A TON OF QUESTIONS. THE BIGGEST THING IS I KNOW GOING FROM THE WINTER TO THE SUMMER RATE, WE'VE BEEN AT THE WINTER RATE FOR A COUPLE YEARS, FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW. NO ONE KNOWS WHY. WE NEVER WENT FROM THE SUMMER TO THE WINTER.
THERE'S SOMETHING ALSO WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE WERE WRONG FOR NOT DOING IT.
WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO DO IT. AUTHORIZATION TO DO IT.
THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT. WE THE DIRECTION HAS TO COME FROM COUNCIL.
I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF.
WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS. PERHAPS IF WE TAKE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, FORWARD THEM TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND HE ALLOWED HIM TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
AND THAT ALSO IT WOULD GIVE US SOME SOME OPTIONS OR SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
I KNOW YOU SAID MAYBE DO A FLAT RATE, WHICH MAY BE A COMBINATION OF THE WINTER AND THE SUMMER RATE, MAYBE SOMETHING TO MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. WHAT'S THIS GOING TO BE BEST? I KNOW THE BIGGEST THING RIGHT NOW. SO I'M ALL FOR NOT GOING TO THE SUMMER RATE OF MAY UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING IF THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE A RATE STUDY.
BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I THOUGHT WHEN THE REPRESENTATIVE CAME FROM IG, I THOUGHT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE IT SORT OF LET US KNOW WHERE WE WERE, WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO. SO PERHAPS TAKE SOME OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER CAN GIVE US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 3 OR 4 OPTIONS FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
I CAN GIVE THEM HIM 5 OR 6 MORE QUESTIONS. HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS.
AND BEFORE WE SIT HERE AND TAKE A STAB IN THE DARK, IT'LL BE 12:00.
AND I JUST WANT TO JUST ALLOW HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER.
BECAUSE, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. SO WE CAN DO ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ANOTHER ROUND OF QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO TAKE THESE QUESTIONS AND COMPILE THEM, SEND THEM TO THE CITY MANAGER BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON TOMORROW, OR DEFINITELY NO LATER THAN WEDNESDAY, AND ALLOW HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PREPARE A REPORT OR PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL SO WE CAN WE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON, AS FAR AS AN INFORMED DECISION ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO WITH REGARDS TO THIS WHOLE RATE THING WITH FOR THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'D LIKE FOR US TO STAY ON THE WINTER RATES. WE MAY NOT, WE MAY NOT. IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE, BUT AT LEAST WE IF WE WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISION, WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE THAT WE NEED.
SO I GUESS IF OTHER PEOPLE DON'T SPEAK. IF NOT, I'D LOVE TO MAKE THE MOTION.
BUT Y'ALL, WE GOT WHATEVER. ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
I YIELD. OKAY. SO WE STILL HAVE COUNCILMAN ATKINS, CALDWELL AND ATKINS.
ZIEGLER. ATKINS. I HAVE ZIEGLER. ATKINS. GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. SO I GUESS I'M JUST FRUSTRATED SITTING HERE IN IN THIS COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALREADY DEBATED SO MUCH ON THIS ISSUE.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE JUST KEEP GOING ON AND ON.
AND THIS ISSUE OF THE DEFICIT IS NOT GETTING SOLVED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FIXING SOMETHING THAT IS IN THAT IS ALREADY WRITTEN IN ORDINANCE. MEANWHILE, I GET POWER OUTAGES. I JUST SAID EARLIER IN THIS MEETING THAT I COULD NOT ATTEND THE EAST POINT.
WHAT THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THAT THEY LOSE THEIR POWER, WHICH MEANS THEY ALL THEIR FOOD GET HAS TO GET TOSSED, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO REBUY ALL THEIR FOOD, WHICH THEY CANNOT AFFORD.
THIS PERSON HAS YET TO COMPLAIN TO ME ABOUT HIGH UTILITY RATES, YET BECAUSE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY'RE IMPACTED IN A NEGATIVE WAY. EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE TALKED ABOUT FIFA, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MR. DAO, SOMEONE FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT CAME AND TOLD US THAT IF EVERY ROOM WAS BOOKED IN, IN OUR HOTELS, PLUS WE HAD MARTA RUNNING THAT WE COULD NOT GUARANTEE TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.
WHOEVER SAID THAT IS TOTALLY FALSE. OKAY, THEN THAT'S NOT.
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THEN WE HAVE. IN EASTPOINTE, WE HAVE WAY MORE THAN ENOUGH POWER TO SERVE WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SERVING.SO THAT'S. THAT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL. OKAY, THEN.
POINT OF ORDER, MADAM MAYOR. WHAT'S YOUR RULE? RULE NUMBER 2-205. DECORUM AND CIVILITY. CAN'T BADGER THE EMPLOYEES.
I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE SHE WAS BEING MADAM CITY ATTORNEY.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS BADGERING, BUT MY QUESTION IS, DO I HAVE TO ACCEPT THE POINT OF ORDER OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YES, I ACCEPT THE POINT OF ORDER. OKAY. EVERYTHING.
YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS THAT THE WAY THIS RULE IS WRITTEN, RIGHT? THE POINT OF ORDER RULE IS WRITTEN. IT REQUIRES THE PERSON MAKING THE POINT OF ORDER TO STATE THE RULE NUMBER.
WE HAVE RULES ONE THROUGH 38, SECTION 2-205. I BELIEVE IT IS.
WOULDN'T THIS FALL UNDER CHAPTER TWO, THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
SO AGAIN, RULE 13 POINT OF ORDER SAYS THAT IT WILL TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER ALL BUSINESS, WHICH IT IS.
THE CHAIR MUST RECOGNIZE THE COUNCIL MEMBER CALLING A POINT OF ORDER.
ONCE RECOGNIZED, THE COUNCIL MEMBER MAY ONLY QUOTE THE RULE NUMBER AND THE RULE.
SO IT DOES NOT. IT WOULD BE A SUBSECTION. BUT THAT'S MY POINT.
THE. THE RULE FOR POINT OF ORDER DOES NOT REFER TO YOU, DOES NOT REFER TO YOU.
THE RULES ARE FOUND IN SECTION 2-2002, AND THEY GO FROM AGAIN ONE THROUGH 38.
SO FOR THERE TO BE A PROPER RULE OF ORDER, IT MUST BE ONE OF THOSE RULES.
HOWEVER, LET ME SAY THIS. WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER LAST WEEK, WHAT I MENTIONED TO HER IS, IS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO NAME SOME MORE RULES BECAUSE WHATEVER YOU'RE CALLING YOUR POINT OF ORDER ON, BECAUSE HERS WAS DECORUM LAST WEEK, IT'S NOT A RULE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THERE MAY NEED TO BE AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO NAME ADDITIONAL RULES THAT COVER THE.
BEHAVIORS THAT YOU WANT TO CALL COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT ON RIGHT NOW.
DECORUM IS NOT A RULE. IT WAS ALICIA PEARSON'S.
AND SO YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID RULE OF ORDER ON THE FLOOR.
MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION.
I BELIEVE WE'RE IN OUR SECOND ROUND. SO I'M STILL IN.
I'M JUST LIKE, OH, OKAY. SO SO THIS IS SO YOU HAD TWO QUESTIONS.
WELL, YOU HAD THREE, BUT JUST GO AHEAD TO YOUR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. SO, SO, SO THE POINT IS THAT WE, WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A DEFICIT.
WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE ECG. THEY CAME TO US.
WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION. IT'S BEEN POSTED. AND WE HAVE A LOT AND A LOT OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVE TO FIX BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO LIVE.
AND WE DO NOT NEED A RATE STUDY TO GO BACK TO SUMMER RATES, WHICH ARE ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE, A RATE STUDY. RELOOK AT THAT ORDINANCE TO SEE IF WE NEED TO GO UP OR DOWN IN RATES, SINCE WE HAVE NOT HAD AN INCREASE IN RATES
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IN 13 YEARS. MORE THAN LIKELY THAT IS GOING TO THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL MOST LIKELY BE TO GO UP ASTRONOMICALLY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS HOLE.AND GOING TO SUMMER RATES IS A VERY TINY STEP IN SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE US YEARS TO FIX.
AND WITH THAT, I YIELD. COUNCILWOMAN MITCHELL WHEN WAS OUR LAST RATE STUDY? MR.. SHAUN. I'M JUST, I KNOW I KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS.
I JUST HAD THIS IN MY NOTES. I THINK IT WAS 2013 OR 2014.
AND HOW ACCURATE DO YOU THINK THAT STUDY IS? EXCUSE ME.
HOW ACCURATE DO YOU THINK THAT IS COMPARED TO THAT HAPPENING BACK THEN IN TODAY'S RATES? AND REALLY WHAT THE WITH THE RATE STUDY, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY, I GUESS EQUATE TO OR APPROVE? IF YOU COULD PUT SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT WHERE THE RATE STUDIES FOR.
SO EXPOUND ON THAT. SO THE RATE STUDY LOOKS AT YOUR ENTIRE OPERATIONS AND FIGURES OUT, WELL, HEY, THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE JUST TO PROVIDE BASIC SERVICE.
SO NOT HAVING ONE DONE SINCE 2013, RIGHT? WE'VE DEFINITELY KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, BUT USING THAT SO, SO NOT GO INTO THE DOING THE WINTER SUMMER RATES. RIGHT. IT EVEN PUT US FURTHER DOWN BECAUSE OF HOW THEY INITIALLY BUILT OUR RATES.
SO GRANTED A RATE STUDY IS NEEDED. IT'S BEING WORKED ON, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT. I, I'M HONESTLY JUST, I WOULD BE REAL CAUTIOUS RIGHT IN HOW WE'RE CALLING FOR THIS RATE STUDY.
RIGHT. MY REASON BEING AND. WE, WE, LET'S SAY WE, WE DO GET BACK THIS RATE STUDY.
RIGHT. AND IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT NINE POINT SOMETHING CENTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE NEED TO GO TO $0.20, RIGHT? WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? RIGHT.
ARE WE GOING TO ACTUALLY GO TO THAT OR WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DO INCREMENTAL WAYS TO GET TO THAT? SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD BE LIKE CAUTIOUS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I WOULD SAY IT'S LIKE, IT'S BETTER TO KNOW NOW BEFORE THAT, THAT IT JUMPED TO 40 CENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? CORRECT. I JUST AT SOME POINT WE GOT TO START PLAYING.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE JUST KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
NEXT THING YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE $2 IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
I DO AGREE. SO I THINK THE SOONER WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE JUST CAN'T STICK OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND WISH FOR THE BEST. EARLIER EVEN KNOWING ABOUT THIS NOW, I THINK WE CAN TAKE PREVENTIVE MEASURES AS SHE SAID SO IT WON'T JUMP AND WE CAN'T HAVE A GRADUAL PLAN, BUT I THINK THE SOONER THE BETTER WE NOSE.
I SOONER THAT WE KNOW THE BETTER. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT TONIGHT AROUND HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT TAKES TO DO A RATE STUDY? HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED FOR THIS? IT TAKES A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WELL, WE'RE LIKE ALMOST DONE. LIKE I SAID, THEY JUST NEEDED THE MIAC OPERATES JANUARY TO DECEMBER.
THEY DON'T OPERATE ON FISCAL YEARS. SO WE NEEDED TO WAIT UNTIL THE ENDING OF DECEMBER TO GET THE WHOLESALE, OUR EXACT WHOLESALE POWER COST SO THAT IGG COULD GET THOSE FIGURES AND PUT THEM INTO OUR OPERATIONAL COST AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER TO COMBINE TO GIVE US THAT WHAT THAT RATE STUDY IS GOING TO KICK OUT, WHAT WHERE DO WE NEED TO BE TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BE ZEROED OUT? YES. AND SO THAT'S THE SCARY THING ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE IMMINENT THAT WE HAVE TO JUMP THE RATE REALLY HIGH.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD. HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO COMPLETE THIS STUDY? YOU KNOW I COULD GIVE YOU A DEFINITE ANSWER TOMORROW.
I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT EXACT ANSWER.
OKAY. NO WORRIES. BUT I THINK A GREAT SUGGESTION WAS MADE.
WE CAN DO A FLAT RATE, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER, IF WE WANT TO TAKE PROGRESSIVE STEPS TOWARDS THIS, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK KNOWING WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS, BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN WHEN IT WAS 13 YEARS AGO.
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OH, I DON'T KNOW. IN YOUR IN YOUR OPINION, EXPERT OPINION, YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER OR.YES, I DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER THAN, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO.
DEFINITELY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I THINK SO INSTEAD OF RUSHING THINGS TONIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE KEEP THE RATE AS IT IS UNTIL WE DO, I GET THIS INFORMATION AND WE CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS AND GET A DIFFERENT WE CAN TRY DIFFERENT THINGS, AT LEAST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE CAN TRY.
FLAT RATES. I THINK HE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT A POPULAR OPINION, BUT DEFINITELY MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYBODY. BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE WAY WORSE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS FROM NOW. BUT I THINK I'VE ASKED EVERYTHING I YIELD.
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. HEARING FROM MR. DOWD, DIRECTOR DOWD, THAT A RATE STUDY IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS AND THAT THOSE ACTIONS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND UNDERSTANDING HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO THE CITIZENS.
AND ALSO HEARING THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMISSION TO SEEK THAT COMMISSION.
I MOVE THAT THAT COMMISSION IS SEATED NO LATER THAN MAY OF 2026.
SO THE CITIZENS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH INTO ANY DISCUSSIONS AROUND RACE AS IT RELATES TO ANY OF OUR UTILITIES, ELECTRIC INCLUDED. THAT WAS THE MOTION. YES. SECOND, JUST TO SEAT THE THE BOARD, THE COMMISSION TO SEAT THE COMMISSION SO THAT CITIZENS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON ANY OF THE RATE STUDIES OR ANY OF THOSE OPERATIONS, BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, BY LEGISLATION, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO ALSO WEIGH IN AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
ULTIMATELY, THE RECOMMENDATION COMES TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BUT THE LEGISLATION STATES THAT THERE TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS, AND THERE IS A QUORUM TO SEAT THE COMMISSION, AND WE'VE NOT SEATED THE COMMISSION.
SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. ALL RIGHT.
SO THANK YOU. YOU HAVE. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE ELECTRIC RATES REMAIN AT THE CURRENT WINTER ONLY STRUCTURE UNTIL A FULL OPERATING COST ANALYSIS AND INDEPENDENT RATE STUDY ARE COMPLETED, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION. COUNCILWOMAN.
COUNCILWOMAN. WE ALREADY HAD IGG DO A PRESENTATION TO US, AND WE ALL SAT IN THAT MEETING FOR LIKE TWO, 3.5 HOURS. WITH THE REALITY PRESENTED TO US. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER INFORMATION CAN BE PRESENTED TO US THAT WOULD PROVIDE ANY DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
I CAN SHARE THAT BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH IG AFTER THAT SESSION, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HIGHLIGHTED THE $4.9 MILLION BEING TRANSFERRED FROM OUR POWER FUND TO OUR GENERAL FUND. THAT STILL HAS NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR.
WE HAVE A $1.9 MILLION DEFICIT. IF PART OF THAT DEFICIT IS JUST BRINGING BACK THOSE FUNDS, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED, WE'RE NOT HAVING WHAT'S THE DISCUSSION? WE DON'T HAVE TO RUSH INTO IT. AND THIS WAS A SUGGESTION BY IG.
AND SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY. RATE. THE RATE STUDY IS ONLY GOING TO PROVIDE US WITH INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH ON IF THE CURRENT RATE IS CORRECT OR NOT. NOT IF WE SHOULD GO BACK TO SUMMER RATES OR NOT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE SUMMER RATES. THERE MAY BE AN ADJUSTMENT UP OR DOWN, BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD HAVE THE INFORMATION. AND WHAT THE RATE STUDY WILL DO IS TELL US, BASED ON OUR OPERATION COSTS, WHERE OUR RATE NEEDS TO BE IN ORDER TO MEET THAT OPERATION COST.
THAT IS THE INFORMATION WE NEED. OKAY. SO.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GO. GO AHEAD. I FINISH YOUR STATEMENT.
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COUNCILWOMAN ZIEGLER FOR FIVE YEARS ON THE LOWER RATES OF US, OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES, WHAT WE SHOULD CHARGE, WHAT WE SHOULD BE CHARGING AND NOT BE EXPECTING THAT THERE WOULD BE A DEFICIT, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW LONG THIS HAS GONE ON. IF THE 4.9 WASN'T IF THAT COULD BE EXPLAINED, I WOULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU.THE NEXT STEPS WAS TO DETERMINE THE ELECTRIC RATE, HAVE A HAVE THE RATE STUDY IMPLEMENTED.
THERE IS DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY NEW QUESTIONS OR NEW INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOT COVERED SINCE WE'VE STARTED THIS? WE'RE ACTUALLY IN ROUND FOUR OF THIS DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, MADAM MAYOR. PARDON THE INTERRUPTION.
THAT THAT WAS NOT COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL'S MOTION.
HER MOTION WAS TO STATE ON THE WINTER RATES UNTIL THE STUDY WAS COMPLETE.
OKAY. AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU. OKAY, SO STAY ON THE WINTER RATES UNTIL THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN A PRESENTATION WAS AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL AND THEN TO THE COMMITTEE.
I'M SORRY. SO THE STUDY OF THE STATE ON THE WINTER RATES UNTIL THE STUDY HAS BEEN COMPLETED, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND THEN PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S RIGHT. YES. OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT. THERE WAS A MOTION, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. DID WE HAVE A SECOND? WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.
COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS. YES. DISCUSSION. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZIEGLER.
I'M SORRY. THEN WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF KNOWING.
I UNDERSTAND, MR. DOW, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S STILL A COUNCIL DECISION AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE WELL INFORMED IF A BUDGET IF A CHANGE IS GOING TO BE IN THEIR PERSONAL BUDGET.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I ALSO I MEAN, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE ECG PRESENTATION, SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS PRESENTED BY ECG STATE OPTION NUMBER ONE, BORROW FROM RESERVE FUND BALANCE.
AND THEN THE RESERVE POLICY FOR FOUR MONTHS. OPTION TWO WAS BORROW FROM MCT.
ANOTHER SHORT TERM OPTION WAS TO INCREASE THE PKA.
ANOTHER OPTION. OPTION NUMBER FOUR WAS TEMPORARILY DELAY PROJECTS TO SAVE 1.9 MILLION.
AND THEN NUMBER FIVE, OPTION NUMBER FIVE WAS A COMBINATION OF ALL OR SOME OF THE ABOVE.
AND I THINK LASTLY, THEY SAID ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT OPTIONS THAT WAS OUR SHORT TERM BUT LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS SAID RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS HAVE BEEN CHARGED WINTER RATE YEAR ROUND, AND THEY PROVIDED US THE ORDINANCE LINK.
AND THEN IT SAYS LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS CONTINUED E G ENCOURAGES A REASSESSMENT OF ALL RATES EVERY 2 TO 3 YEARS TO ENSURE REVENUES BEING TO MEET ITS EXPENSES.
SO THEY GAVE US OPTIONS THERE. ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE INFORMATION AND MAKE A BETTER INFORMED DECISION. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL THE MOTION STATES, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING THAT DECISION, AND I YIELD.
IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM ATTORNEY? BECAUSE IT'S NOT A RAISING OF THE RATES.
IT IS THE RATES AS THE LAW STATES CURRENTLY. OKAY WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET, THAT CITY MANAGER THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US. DID YOU AND YOUR TEAM INCLUDE THE CURRENT RATES THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS AS A PART OF THIS BUDGET? AND SO WHAT IMPACT WOULD IT HAVE IF WE WERE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH
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WHAT THE LAW CURRENTLY STATES AS IT, AS IT RELATES TO THE RATES? MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IT WOULD HAVE ALMOST NEAR CATASTROPHIC EFFECTS.MY EARLIER COMMENTS, WHEN ASKED ABOUT OUR RESERVES AND THE M, C, T, AND I SHARED THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFLICT AND IF RESERVES AND MCT WAS THE SAME FUND MATTERS A GREAT DEAL.
THAT'S $15 MILLION OF A RESERVE THAT I BELIEVE SHOULD BE AN ACTUAL SEPARATE POT OF MONEY.
AND IF WE ARE TO TO MAKE THESE KIND OF DECISIONS WITHOUT KNOWING THAT.
AND I AGAIN, WE BASED ON WHAT OUR RATES ARE. SO THIS ESSENTIALLY WOULD INTRODUCE ANOTHER SHORTFALL.
IT HAS A SERIOUS CONSEQUENCE. AND WE'RE STILL ALREADY UNDER MASSIVE PRESSURES BECAUSE OF OF PAST DECISIONS, RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT.
SO WHEN THE CITY WAS NOT COLLECTING MR. DOW YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS OR MR. CITY MANAGER WHEN THE CITY WAS NOT ABIDING BY ITS OWN RATES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS HAPPENING WHEN THE CITY WAS NOT ABIDING BY ITS OWN RATES.
AND THAT HAPPENED. HOW MANY YEARS CAN WE GO BACK? I THINK IT'S 4 OR 5 YEARS, ABOUT 4 OR 5 YEARS.
SO EVERY YEAR WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ENOUGH FOR THAT ENTERPRISE'S OPERATIONS.
CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THAT'S COMPOUNDED IF WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ENOUGH IN THE FIRST YEAR, THEN WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ENOUGH IN THE SECOND YEAR WHEN JUST COMPOUNDING THE FIRST YEAR AND SO ON AND SO ON. SO THAT IS WHAT IS ALSO ABOUT TO GROW THIS SHORTFALL OR DEFICIT.
THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND MR. CITY MANAGER, IF WE DO NOT ABIDE BY WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS NOW, AND BASED ON THE BUDGET THAT WE JUST RECEIVED AT 7:57 P.M., THEN IT WOULD CHANGE THE NUMBERS OR WHAT YOU AND THE FINANCE TEAM HAVE PUT TOGETHER REGARDING THIS BUDGET.
AND HE SAID IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC. YES. QUITE FRANKLY, THE BALANCE, THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU STILL REQUIRES ASSISTANCE FROM MCT BECAUSE OF THE DEFICIT COULD NOT BE CURED THROUGH CUTTING BACK ON CAPITAL UNLESS CUTTING, CUTTING ALL CAPITAL. WE CUT IT BACK AS MUCH AS WE COULD AND STILL MAINTAIN HARDENING OUR GRID, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR SERVICE. AND THEN I THINK ALSO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO CUT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET IN IN POWER.
OKAY. AND MY LAST QUESTION. AT WHAT RATE DO WE HAVE TO PAY? AND WHEN I SAY RATE, I DON'T MEAN INTEREST RATE, BUT AT WHAT TIME PERIOD DO WE HAVE TO PAY BACK MCT? HOW IS THAT STRUCTURED? I BELIEVE WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL IN THAT AREA.
I MENTIONED WE COULD BE GENEROUS IN THE TERM, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN.
AND THE ONLY PLAN INVOLVES A NEW REVENUE STREAM, WHICH WOULD BE RATES OR SELLING POWER OR SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY REALISTIC. SO THERE'S SOME ROOM THAT YOU CAN GO LONGER IN THE TERM, GIVE YOURSELF SOME TIME, BUT YOU CANNOT JUST DO IT WITHOUT A PLAN. AND THAT'S WHAT IG SHARED.
SO IN ESSENCE, GETTING DOLLARS FROM M C, T DOESN'T REALLY SOLVE OUR ISSUE.
IT STILL MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY THAT BACK. RIGHT.
ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS BACK. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IN FINANCE AND I, WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND ON EVEN JUST LOOKING AT THAT OPTION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PRESENT A BALANCED BUDGET, AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BALANCE IT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, I YIELD. ALL RIGHT.
MIGHT I ADD ONE MORE COMMENT. AND I'VE I'VE KIND OF SHARED THIS BEFORE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND WHEN IT CAN'T MEET ITS NEEDS.
THE GENERAL FUND IS IS BACKING IT UP. THE GENERAL FUND REPRESENTS A REPRESENTATION AND PRIORITIZATION FROM TAXPAYERS. THE ENTERPRISE REPRESENTS A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING AND FOCUS AND DESIRES OF RATEPAYERS.
THEY OVERLAP IN MANY CASES. AND IN SOME CASES THEY DON'T OVERLAP AT ALL.
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BUT THEY STILL USE THAT THAT SOURCE. TAXPAYERS HAVE TO LOOK AT MULTIPLE INTERESTS, INCLUDING PRIORITIES IN SAFETY, IN PARKS AND REC, IN ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO MAKE UP WHAT THEY VIEW AS A QUALITY OF LIFE.RATEPAYERS DO THE SAME THING, BUT THEY'RE VERY FOCUSED ON HAVING A RELIABLE SYSTEM, A SYSTEM THAT GIVES THEM ABUNDANCE OF POWER AND THINGS OF THAT ARE FOCUSED ON THAT UTILITY. YOU TAKE AWAY THE RATEPAYERS DECISION MAKING PROCESS BY PUTTING THE ONUS ON THE TAXPAYER.
IT'S THE SAME MONEY YOU ARE NOT ALLOWING YOURSELF TO INVEST IN CREATING A TOP NOTCH ENTERPRISE BY PUTTING IT AND RELYING ON TAXPAYERS WHO HAVE OTHER ISSUES TO CONSIDER.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD APPROACH TO BUILDING A STRONG SYSTEM.
IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION. OKAY. I HAVE ONE MORE.
COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS AND COUNCILWOMAN MITCHELL AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL.
WELL, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE 4.9 MILLION THAT'S BEEN TRANSFERRED.
I PUT THE INFORMATION UP FOR MY PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING AT HOME.
BUT MR. CITY MANAGER, IF THAT MONEY WASN'T TRANSFERRED OUT OF ELECTRICITY, WOULD THAT BE BALANCED THEN? I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TRANSFERRED.
I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRACK THAT TRANSACTION DOWN AND PROVIDE YOU THE REASONS BEHIND IT.
I WOULD LOVE IF YOU WOULD. WHEN YOU RUN INTO THESE THINGS, YOU CALL OUR OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION THAT WILL SATISFY THE REASONS BEHIND WHY WE DO THINGS. I THINK THE DIRECTOR CLEARLY SAID THAT THESE TYPES OF INTERACTIONS HAPPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE EMPLOYEES AND A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THE ENTERPRISE HAS TO PAY THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH PICKS UP THOSE COSTS FOR ENTERPRISE REASONS.
SO FOR ME TO KNOW THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.
WELL, MR. CITY MANAGER, I'VE HAD TO DO A NUMBER OF OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.
YOU'VE BEEN COPIED ON ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS WHERE I ASKED FOR THIS INFORMATION.
AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I FEEL I DON'T NEED TO DO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS, BUT THAT IS A FAST TRACK WAY FOR ME TO GET INFORMATION BECAUSE OUR COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL IS NOT REALLY FOLLOWED TO THE TEE. SO I COPY YOU TO EVERY EMAIL.
AND THEN IF THERE ISN'T A RESPONSE, AS IT STATES IN OUR COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL, I DO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, WHICH I THINK IS ABSURD FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO DO SO.
I TEND TO AGREE. I'M SORRY, ARE WE? I HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
COUNCIL AND $4.9 MILLION HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE BUDGET.
AND I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M OKAY. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. SO I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THIS CURRENT BUDGET IN FRONT OF US.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A FINANCIAL. WELL SIR, CERTAINLY IF AND I'LL PUT A LOT OF ENERGY AND EXPLAINING THE OVER PROJECTION IS. NO I CAN'T DESCRIBE BUT ANY ANYTHING MORE THAN THE PHILOSOPHY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR OVER A DECADE. OKAY. THAT HAS CREATED CERTAIN STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES IN OUR, IN OUR BUDGET.
I WILL SAY THAT WE HAD THE IG PRESENT, JUST THE CAPITAL PIECE OF THAT.
AND THEY HAD INDICATED AND SHARED THAT THERE WERE OVER PROJECTIONS THAT HAVE ADDED TO CHALLENGES.
I ONLY SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A PHILOSOPHY OF OVER PROJECTION.
AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE ALLOWED OUR SPENDING TO DRIVE OUR PROJECTIONS, AS OPPOSED TO UNDERSTANDING THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE DERIVE OUR REVENUES.
AND SO THAT PRACTICE HAS CREATED STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES IN JUST OUR BUDGET.
IN A SENSE, IMBALANCES ON PAPER, BUT NOT IN REALITY.
IT CREATES IN BUILT IN DEFICITS THAT IN THE PAST, THIS PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO BALANCE DURING THE YEAR
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WITH BUDGET AMENDMENTS. A LOT OF TIMES UTILIZING FUND BALANCES.THAT'S WHY I HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME ANSWERING WITH SPECIFICS AS TO OUR FUND BALANCE, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN ACCESSED IN THE FASHION THAT ALWAYS HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN SOUND. GOT YOU. AND HOW ARE WE CALCULATING THE SEVERITY OF A FUTURE DEFICIT IF WE DON'T KNOW A CURRENT RATE RIGHT NOW? I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC. I'M JUST CURIOUS ON HOW WE'RE MAKING THOSE TYPE OF CALCULATIONS.
THE TYPE OF OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
THOSE ARE THOSE SOLID NUMBERS. LET US KNOW AND NOT.
AND ALSO STAFF. THOSE ARE VERY FIXED COSTS. WE'VE JUST GOT FINISHED DOING A CLASSIFICATION STUDY.
SO THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP LIKE MOST OF MY INDICATORS TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL ENVIRONMENT OF, OF LABOR COSTS. WE'RE PART OF THAT. SO ALL OF THOSE, THOSE VARIABLES HAVE ADDED TO OUR COST OF SERVICE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY FIXED, PRETTY SOLID. WHAT IS NOT AS SOLID IS THE PROJECTIONS AND, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY WILD IN THOSE PROJECTIONS IN THE PAST TO ACCESS OVER TEN, EVEN $20 MILLION OF OVER PROJECTIONS IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. SO THIS IS THIS IS THE SYSTEMATIC CHANGE CHALLENGE THAT'S GOING ON AND TO CONSIDER.
OUR SITUATION AND FOOTING, I, I, I CHARACTERIZE THIS AS VERY SERIOUS AND, POTENTIALLY DAMAGING TO THE POINT WHERE IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER.
GOTCHA. SO EVEN WITH THAT, SO I THINK THE $4.9 MILLION KEEPS COMING UP.
I SEE MISS KESHA. MADAM CITY CLERK, CAN YOU READ THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, PLEASE? YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO READ IT.
I KNOW YOU WROTE IT, I JUST. SO MY MOTION WAS.
I MOVE THAT THE ELECTRIC RATES REMAIN AT THE CURRENT WINTER RATE ONLY STRUCTURE UNTIL A FULL OPERATING COST ANALYSIS AND INDEPENDENT RATE STUDY ARE COMPLETED, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WOULD THAT NECESSARILY BE DEEMED AS ILLEGAL SINCE WE MADE A MOTION TO KEEP IT THERE? NO, ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WHEN IT WAS CHANGED LAST TIME, BUT THERE WAS NO RECORD OF THAT.
RIGHT. AND SO GOING TO THE SUMMER RATE WOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING YOUR ORDINANCE.
THIS MOTION IS TO SUSPEND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT, SUSPEND THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE FOR A PERIOD. I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT AT THE SAME RATE NOW.
RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT HER MOTION IS TO DO. OKAY.
YEAH. SO MY THING IS, IF WE'RE ALREADY ON THAT RATE, HOWEVER WE GOT HERE, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER MAKES A MOTION THAT KEEPS THE RATE THE SAME SINCE THERE WAS NO ORIGINAL MOTION, BUT THE MOTION IS TO KEEP IT AS IT IS, THAT COULD NOT NECESSARILY BE SEEN AS ILLEGAL.
ONCE WE VOTED, IT WAS ILLEGAL WHEN IT WAS DONE WITHOUT A MOTION BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIND, BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIND WHEN IT WAS SUSPENDED, I'M ASSUMING. RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MOTION OF THE COUNCIL TO STAY AT SUMMER RATES.
SO. BUT THAT'S THE MOTION NOW IS TO STAY TO CONTINUE SUMMER RATES.
I JUST WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS IN.
ARE THERE ALL IN FAVOR? ARE YOU IS THAT A QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR FOR THE MOTION? AYE. AYE. OKAY. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NO. CAN WE HAVE A. YES, MA'AM. I THINK WE SINCE SINCE I THINK SOMEONE LEFT.
DON'T THEY VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE? YES. YOU NEED FIVE.
IF YOU IF YOU LEAVE A MOVE. IF YOU LEAVE A MEETING.
THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING. IF YOU LEAVE A MEETING AND THERE'S A VOTE, YOU VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
IT'S A YES VOTE. YES. YES. IT'S YES. LET'S FIND IT.
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YES. SHE AIN'T VOTING ON THIS. SHE CAN VOTE. I MEAN, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, JUST IN GENERAL, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER LEAVES A MEETING, WHATEVER.OKAY, SIR. IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT ANY SEAT. THEY HAVE TO BE IN THEIR SEAT TO BE IN THE SEAT.
BUT IT'S A YES. IF HE'S NOT IN THIS, IS IT THAT HE DON'T SHOW UP? YES, I READ IT TODAY. NO, IT'S WHAT THEY BELIEVE ALSO.
COUNCILMAN. YES, MA'AM. ROLL CALL. HOW MANY DAYS? MADAM CITY CLERK. MAY WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER HILLMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE'RE IN. ROLL CALL. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF SHE'S STILL HERE.
OH, IS SHE STILL HERE? OH, YEAH. OH. SHE HAS.
OKAY. WHAT DOES SHE DO? I DON'T KNOW. WAS IT.
YES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. HAMMOND. YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF.
OR DO I HAVE TO? DO I HAVE TO UNMUTE HER? YEAH, THERE SHE GOES. AND SHE STOOD THERE. SHE STOOD HERE.
YES, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER HENRY. YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF.
OR DO I HAVE TO. DO I HAVE TO UNMUTE. MY. I'M VOTING NO.
RECEIVE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. COUNCIL MEMBER.
ZIEGLER. NO. COUNCIL. MEMBER. CUMMINGS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.
MITCHELL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CALDWELL. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN. ROGERS. YES. COUNCIL.
CAN WE BRING IT UP, PLEASE? SHOW UP ON THE SCREEN.
ATTENDANCE AND. NO ONE EXCUSED HIM. YES.
I READ THIS EARLIER TODAY. HE WASN'T EXCUSED BY THE CHAIR.
SO THE MOTION PASSES. COUNCIL MEMBER.
NO. WE NEED TO LET THE RECORD REFLECT OF RULE 14.
AND SO RULE 14 PROVIDES, AS YOU CAN SEE UP HERE.
SO I THINK THIS IS IN REFERENCE NOT I THINK IT IS IN REFERENCE TO COUNCIL MEMBER FREELY.
I ASSUME HE'S LEFT THE MEETING AND HE WAS NOT EXCUSED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER UNLESS, MADAM MAYOR YOU CAN TELL US SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND IT SAYS THAT THE VOTE SHOULD BE COUNTED AS A.
YAY! THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO SO SO I PASS.
OKAY, SO STOP. MOTION PASSES. WHEN DO WE NEED IT BACK?
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WHAT? THEY NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT. NUMBER 24, 25 AND 26.SHE READ BY COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS AND MYSELF.
NO MORE FOR THOSE. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR.
LET ME JUST GET BACK IN. WE APPROVED IT. YES WE DID.
BUT FOR ITEM 25, THE INTERNSHIP IS GOING TO BE STARTING IN MAY.
THANK YOU. OKAY. AND FOR ITEM 27 I WAS MY GOAL FOR THIS
[XIV.27. Monthly Department Status Reports]
WAS TO GET REPORTS FROM STAFF AND KIND OF LOOK AT THEM TO SEE IF I COULD MAKE SENSE OUT OF WHAT WERE THE KPIS AND THE DEPARTMENT NOT TO NECESSARILY DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER, BUT TO HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF HOW THE DEPARTMENTS ARE PERFORMING AND WHAT THEIR MEASURABLE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS ARE.AND SO I AM STILL LOOKING AND WORKING ON THAT.
I DID GET SOME REPORTS THAT WERE SENT OVER FROM YOUR OFFICE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DISCUSS THIS? IT WAS JUST DEPARTMENT STATUS REPORTS. I DIDN'T HAVE A MOTION.
ARE YOU ASKING FOR ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT? NO.
YES. IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT AND GIVE SOME DETAILS.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE DISCUSSION.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MONTHLY DEPARTMENTAL STATUS REPORTS.
SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL, YOUR MIC IS ON.
AND NO OTHER. ALL THOSE. WAIT A MINUTE. SO WE'RE ON ITEM 27, CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND I HAVE YOU IN. AND THEN COUNCILMAN ATKINS.
OKAY. SO THIS IS A MONTHLY DEPARTMENT STATUS REPORT.
ARE THEY TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO DO A PRESENTATION OR.
I THINK THAT THEY ARE BEING COMMUNICATED VIA EMAIL.
SO THERE ISN'T ANYTHING TO VOTE ON. BUT IF WE SEE THEM IN, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS, BUT I WON'T.
AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN MAYBE IF COUNCIL WANTS TO BRING IT TO THE FLOOR TO THE COMMITTEE.
OH, OKAY. AND HOW MANY? OKAY. HOW MANY? SO I GET THE THE MONTHLY DEPARTMENT.
HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS DO WE HAVE TOTAL? 15. IS IT 15? HOW MANY? 15. 19? 1919. SO YOU JUST THE REQUEST NOW IS JUST THAT WE DO A MONTHLY STATUS REPORT.
DOESN'T MATTER. I MEAN WE AREN'T. ARE WE DISCUSSING HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED.
I MEAN COULD THEY DO LIKE A MONTHLY REPORT, A WRITTEN REPORT.
IT'S UP TO COUNCIL I FEEL AND THIS IS MY OPINION.
I'M NOT I'M JUST THIS IS FOR ME TO HAVE CLARITY.
AND I'M DISCUSSING THIS OUT LOUD IS BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN FOR TRACKING SAKE, IF WE HAVE SOME HIGH LEVEL REPORTING THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER BEST PRACTICES WOULD BE FOR REPORTING THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR CHARTER, OUR BUDGET AND THINGS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF CAN, IF THEY WANT TO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A DIRECTIVE, BUT I'M ASKING THAT SO THAT I GET IT AND UNDERSTAND IT.
AND I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. THE ONLY THING IS JUST TO BRING 19 PEOPLE UP HERE AND, YOU KNOW, TO DO SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION, IF IT COULD BE FACILITATED, MAYBE PERHAPS IN SOME SORT OF A WRITTEN REPORT THAT THEY GIVE OUT MONTHLY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I MEAN, WE JUST KIND OF LAY OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU LAY OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT YOU LIKE FOR IT TO LOOK LIKE OR WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU LIKE TO SEE IN IT. AND IF THEY CAN JUST KIND OF FILL IT OUT AND MAYBE WE, YOU COULD DO LIKE A SHARED DOCUMENT.
AND THAT WAY EVERYONE HAS, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF ALL ABREAST OF WHAT IT IS THAT'S GOING ON IN EACH DEPARTMENT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THEM COME HERE BECAUSE IT'S VERY LIKELY THEY CAN BE HERE RIGHT AT 630. RIGHT. AND NOT COME BEFORE US UNTIL 11 12:00.
RIGHT. AND FOR THREE, FOUR MINUTES. AND THEN THEY'RE GONE, SO I JUST.
BUT BUT IT'S FINE. I'M I'M FOR THE I THINK IT'S FINE TO DO A MONTHLY REPORT.
YEAH I YIELD. THANK YOU. JUST A REMINDER WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO DISCUSS THIS.
SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET A VOTE TO SAY YES. WE'LL DISCUSS IT AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS IT.
OKAY. WE HAD A SECOND TO DISCUSS IT. WE DID NOT HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE IT, SO.
RIGHT. NO SECOND TO WE HAVE A SECOND TO DISCUSS IT.
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SO ALL THOSE. ARE WE STILL IN DISCUSSION? WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION.STILL HAVE DISCUSSION. BUT BRING IT TO THE FLOOR.
RIGHT. AND SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ON NUMBER 27.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE TO DO A. SO WE'RE DISCUSSION FOR NUMBER 27.
YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND WE HAVE COUNCILMAN ATKINS.
COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS. SO WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, MY CONCERNS WITH THIS IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORTS TO THIS BODY AND NOT THE DEPARTMENTS. AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF, PARTICULARLY WITH A BUDGET.
AND WE'RE PUTTING PRIORITIES IN THE BUDGET. AND TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE MANAGING AGAINST THOSE THINGS VERSUS HAVING MONTHLY 19 MEMBERS OF THE STAFF TO COME AND GIVE US REPORTS.
BUT WHEN, MADAM MAYOR, YOU TALK ABOUT THE KPIS ANY OF THOSE KEY PERFORMANCES, I THINK, ARE CAPTURED IN SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET. AND I THINK OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE USED TO GIVE US A REPORT ON THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON IN THE CITY, I THINK COULD REPORT TO US. AND HE DID THAT BY WAY OF EMAIL.
BUT I THINK THAT TALKING ABOUT THE LENGTH OF OUR MEETINGS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
OKAY. OKAY. DOCTOR ROGERS. YES. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS CHARTER SECTION 2-302.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE CITY MANAGER. NUMBER SEVEN READS.
MAKE SUCH OTHER REPORTS AS A CITY COUNCIL MAY REQUIRE CONCERNING THE OPERATIONS OF CITY DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES AND AGENCIES, SUBJECT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION AND SUPERVISION.
SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS POINT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD RECEIVE A REPORT FROM OUR CITY MANAGER WHICH STARTED UPON HIM. FIRST, COMING INTO OUR CITY, WE WOULD RECEIVE A MONTHLY REPORT THAT DETAILED WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE CITY.
SO I THINK THAT IF IT IS THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL THAT WE KEEP IN LINE WITH NUMBER SEVEN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, BECAUSE HE IS OUR DIRECT REPORT.
AND I'LL YIELD TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES. THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING HAS HER HAND UP. OH. WHERE? HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? YOU SEE YOUR HAND AT THE TOP OF THE.
OH, THERE SHE IS. OKAY. GO AHEAD.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.
COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING. ARE YOU STILL ON MUTE? OKAY, I'M UNMUTING NOW. I HOPE THAT I'M NOT TALKING OVER ANYONE.
I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION AND AND I SUPPORT WE OPEN UP MY COMPUTER.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER. HAMMEL. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.
OH, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING.
ARE YOU STILL ON MUTE? I'M TRYING TO SPEAK.
I'M GOING TO ATTEMPT TO SPEAK NOW. I THINK I'M GETTING THE GREEN LIGHT TO SPEAK.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I GOT A TEXT FROM MADAM CITY CLERK.
I HAVE A QUESTION. AND THIS IS A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
AND, MADAM MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF THIS IDEA.
BUT I AM CURIOUS BECAUSE EARLIER IN THE MEETING TODAY I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO VOTE ON ITEMS. AND SO I'M TRYING TO ASK WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE ABLE TO ADD ITEMS THAT THEN INITIATE A VOTE.
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LIKE USUALLY I'VE HEARD IN THE MEETING THAT YOU WILL ASK ONE OF US, FOR EXAMPLE, TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM.SO I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THE, THE PROCEDURAL RULES HERE, NOT TRYING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL, JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS A TIE BREAKING VOTE.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE ABLE TO ADD ITEMS TO THE AGENDA.
I LOVE THE SPIRIT OF WHAT AGAIN, YOU'RE OFFERING, BUT WHAT I'VE SEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE FULTON COUNTY, FROM THE COUNTY LEVEL IS THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS OR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WOULD MAKE PRESENTATIONS OR, EXCUSE ME, WOULD MAKE SUMMARY REPORTS THAT CAN THEN BE DISSEMINATED.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I'VE HEARD VERY CLEARLY IS THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION CHALLENGE.
WE HEARD A LOT OF RESIDENTS TONIGHT SAY THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO MY CONCERN IS IF WE DO THESE REPORTS HOW DOES IT THEN GET BEYOND THE REPORTS TO US? SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS A PROCEDURAL ONE. WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BEFORE TO COUNCIL BY THE MAYOR.
AND THEN MY SECOND COMMENT IS, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO DO THIS THAT MAXIMIZES OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT TO THE RESIDENTS BEYOND HAVING TO WATCH THESE MEETINGS. SO I YIELD AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ACCOMMODATING MY QUESTIONS.
I WILL TRY TO TAKE HER FIRST QUESTION ONLY BECAUSE I STARTED LOOKING THIS UP WHEN I HEARD THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE, WHETHER OR NOT IT COUNT A THE MAYOR CAN ADD ITEMS TO THE AGENDA.
RULE 15 OF YOUR COUNCIL RULES. PROVIDES.
COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA PROVIDED.
THE ITEM HAS FIRST BEEN TO A WORK SESSION OR PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AT A PRIOR MEETING AND ALL ASSOCIATED PAPERWORK WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE BY THE ESTABLISHED DEADLINE FOR RECEIVING INFORMATION.
THE LANGUAGE IN THAT RULE, SAYS COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND TO THE EXTENT THE MAYOR IS NOT CONSIDERED A COUNCIL MEMBER THEN IT WOULD APPEAR RULE 15 WOULD PROHIBIT THAT.
I'M LOOKING AT OTHER RULES TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT DISTINGUISHES THE MAYOR FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
RIGHT. TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU SOME CLARITY FOR INSTANCE, RULE FIVE REFERS TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER. RULE THREE REFERS TO THE MAYOR.
THE MAYOR PRO TEM SO IF WE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE MAYOR IS NOT A PART OF CITY COUNCIL, THEN RULE 15 WOULD NOT ALLOW THE MAYOR TO ADD ITEMS TO THE AGENDA.
OKAY. CAN I CARRY IT? THANKS, MADAM MAYOR. I'LL CARRY THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAD A I HAD A QUESTION.
THERE WAS ONE MORE QUESTION. GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL, THANK YOU.
SO I SEE THIS IS. IT DOESN'T SAY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
SO I'VE SEEN FORMER MAYOR HAVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS FOR TAKING ACTION OR IF IT WAS A PRESENTATION.
IT SAYS PRESENTED BY COUNCIL AND MAYOR. HERE, AND I SEE A LOT OF.
THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT I THINK. COUNCIL AND MAYOR CAN BE NAMED ON.
I'VE SEEN THAT ON A LOT OF STUFF. BUT I KNOW FOR THIS, THESE TWO ITEM 26 AND 27, AND I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO BACK THROUGH THE REST OF THEM.
IT'S JUST AS PRESENTED. DOESN'T REALLY SAY ACTION.
YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE CAN MAKE A MOTION, WHATEVER, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY DISCUSSING THE POSSIBLE ACTION.
AND I WANT TO SAY, SINCE COUNCIL IS LISTED BY THE PRESENTATION, COULD THE COUNCIL MEMBER MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS SINCE IT'S NOT JUST STRICTLY THE MERITS ITEM? SO I TAKE YOUR POINT. I WAS OVER HERE THINKING LIKE DURING THE TIME OF THE FORMER MAYOR, WERE THERE ITEMS THAT WERE PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY THE MAYOR?
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RESPECTFULLY, THAT THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP.THAT ARE A FIRST IMPRESSION, RIGHT? THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES.
THERE'S A CHARTER, THERE'S A CODE OF ORDINANCE.
AND UNTIL I'M ASKED ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I DON'T STUDY THE CHARTER AND THE CODE EVERY DAY, BUT UNTIL I'M ASKED ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AN ISSUE, RIGHT? LIKE FOR, FOR INSTANCE, YOU GUYS JUST ASKED ABOUT WHETHER COUNCILMAN FREHLEY'S ABSENCE VOTED AS A YAY! I'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED THAT BEFORE, SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH THAT ISSUE UNTIL TONIGHT.
I'M GLAD I KNOW IT NOW. SAME WITH THE QUESTION THAT WE JUST HAD ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE MAYOR IS INCLUDED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN ASKED TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I CAN ONLY GO BY THE RULES THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, SO I AM NOT SAYING THAT.
SO IT'S LIKE A PROCLAMATION, RIGHT? SO THE FIRST THING ON HERE, PROCLAMATION COUNCILOR, WHERE ARE YOU READING FROM? NUMBER THREE, ITEM NUMBER THREE. SO THINGS LIKE PROCLAMATION.
YEAH. IT LISTS THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, LEGISLATIVE PRESENTATION, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR.
I BELIEVE SHE SHE SHE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. I'M PRETTY SURE OF THAT.
NO, THE MAYOR CANNOT. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SHE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER STIPULATIONS BECAUSE THE THE SAME WAY IT'S PRESENTED FOR ITEM 26 AND 27. IT'S ALL THROUGHOUT OUR AGENDA.
I'M NOT REALLY SEEING WHAT THE DISCREPANCY IS. SHE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS, YOU KNOW, BUT SHE CAN BE NAMED. I AM FINE. I HOPE HOPEFULLY YOU HEAR ME.
I AM FINE WITH YOU GUYS HAVING THE INTERPRETATION THAT THE MAYOR IS A PART OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSES OF AGENDA ITEMS. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE RULE SAYS. SO I'M CURIOUS WHY.
WHAT MAKES THESE LAST TWO ITEMS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER? PROBABLY 5 OR 6, SEVEN ITEMS WHERE THE MAYOR'S NAME IS LISTED WITH THE COUNCIL.
SO. SO AGAIN, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. I WASN'T ASKED UNTIL WE GOT TO ITEM NUMBER 27.
RIGHT. I WOULD HAVE RESEARCHED IT AND GIVEN YOU THE ANSWER.
SO I WASN'T ASKED UNTIL NUMBER 27. I GOT YOU, NO WORRIES.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS ANYMORE.
BUT COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS SAID THAT SHE WOULD CARRY THIS ONE.
YES. ARE YOU CALLING ON ME? YES. SO, TO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL'S POINT.
IN THE PAST, WE'VE ALWAYS ALLOWED THE MAYOR TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
AND SOMEONE HAS ALWAYS MADE THE MOTION AND SECONDED.
AND THEN THE MAYOR WENT INTO DISCUSSION. SO GO FOR IT.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT IS IN VIOLATION OF THE RULES.
OKAY. I JUST THINK THAT THERE IS A RULE THAT READS COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, AND IT IS FINE IF THE BODY WISHES TO INCLUDE THE MAYOR IN THE TERM COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO THAT SHE CAN PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I BELIEVE, I MEAN, THAT IS MY INTERPRETATION THAT SHE IS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, AND THERE SHOULD THEREFORE SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK THAT IS A FINE INTERPRETATION. OKAY. BUT SOMEONE HAS BROUGHT THE ISSUE UP.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN WRITING, OR SHOULD WE JUST AGREE THAT THE MAYOR IS PART OF COUNCIL? SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT FOR LEGACY PURPOSES, YOU MAY WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, RIGHT? SO THAT THERE'S THIS IS NOT A QUESTION IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU INCLUDE THAT TITLE IN RULE 15.
JUST LIKE YOU MAY WANT TO INCLUDE DECORUM AS A RULE FOR POINT OF ORDER PURPOSES.
IT IS NICE WHEN THE ORDINANCE IS CLEAR TO TAKE AWAY THE INTERPRETATION.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL WELL, I WILL YIELD, BUT I WOULDN'T MIND CHANGING OR MAKING THAT CHANGE IN THE RULE JUST TONIGHT TO STATE THAT THE MAYOR IS A PART OF COUNCIL, SO THAT I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENCE IN I GUESS THE DEFINITION BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR IS A PART OF THE COUNCIL.
I KNOW SHE CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS AND SHE BUT SHE SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
AND I THINK THAT IS A QUESTION AT HAND. THAT'S FAIR.
RIGHT? I THINK I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR US WITH A WORKFLOW.
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I, MY ONLY, MY ONLY THING WAS I JUST NOTICED WHERE IT'S LISTED.I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE FOR DISCUSSING A POSSIBLE ACTION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
LIKE IT SAYS PRESENTED BY. I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DECISION, BUT WE JUST GET A LEGAL OPINION OUTSIDE. GO AHEAD. OKAY.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT EXCLUDES THE MAYOR. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD RESTRICT HER.
SO THAT I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT WAS MY WHOLE POINT.
I SAID IF BECAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION.
I SAID, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING THE MAYOR A PART OF COUNCIL, THEN WE'RE GOOD.
IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING THAT THE MAYOR IS A SEPARATE POSITION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEN AGENDA, I'M SORRY, THEN RULE 15 WOULD APPLY. SO IT'S JUST WHATEVER POLICY OR INTERPRETATION OR HISTORICAL WAY THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO GO BY.
AND THE OTHER THING I SAID IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER RULES, SUCH AS.
RIGHT. SO YOU CAN GET SOME LEGISLATIVE CONTEXT AROUND WHAT THE DRAFTER OF THESE RULES MEANT.
YOU LOOK AT RULE THREE, YOU LOOK AT RULE. SIX IT DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO I DON'T I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT EXCLUDES.
BUT IT LEAVES IT UP FOR INTERPRETATION OF WHETHER SHE IS INCLUDED.
SOMEONE ELSE CAN READ THAT AND SAY NO, THAT SHE'S NOT INCLUDED.
OKAY. BUT FOR THE, FOR FOR RIGHT NOW, DOES IT REQUIRE SOME OTHER STEPS IN ORDER FOR HER TO PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXCLUDE HER FROM PUTTING.
THERE ISN'T LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THE MAYOR IS EXCLUDED FROM PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISN'T PREVENTING HER FROM PUTTING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. AND LIKE ANOTHER STOP THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
EXACTLY. I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOUR AMENDMENT COMES IN, SO THAT THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS THAT SHE SHOULD BE INCLUDED FOR RULE 15, BUT PRIOR TO THAT AMENDMENT, THEN IT WILL BE UP TO THIS BODY.
HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO MOVE A MOTION WOULD BE FINE AND NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE.
I THINK JUST LIKE Y'ALL MADE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE ORDINANCE FOR THE RATES, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE APPLICATION OF RULE 15 TO ALLOW THE MAYOR TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA UNTIL YOU GET TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, ATKINS WAS ABLE TO COME IN.
OH. YOU'RE OUT. ARE YOU OUT? YEAH. OKAY. YES.
WHATEVER THE BODY DECIDES. BUT YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO US.
I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK ANYMORE. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN COMING, AND.
SO WE JUST NEED TO WE NEED TO JUST MAKE IT JUST SOME CLARITY TO THAT.
SHE CAN BECAUSE I THINK HISTORICALLY SHE HAS BEEN ABLE TO.
PREVIOUS MAYORS HAVE ADDED ITEMS TO THE AGENDA.
SO. AND HOW DO YOU. REAL QUICK. HOW WAS THAT DONE? WHAT WOULD WE DO TO NOT JUST SUSPEND RULE 15 OR I CAN BRING IT UP.
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WELL, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT TONIGHT AND I THINK YOU GUYS CAN AGREE TO DO IT TONIGHT.BUT FOR THE FUTURE, I CAN JUST BRING THE ORDINANCE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
OKAY? OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE WILL, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE OKAY.
NOW, I WAS GOING TO SAY FOR AMENDMENTS, I'M GUESSING IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF BEFORE WE CAN VOTE IT THROUGH AND PRESENT IT TO US IN TANGIBLE, INTANGIBLE PAPER. BUT IT'S NOT TOO MUCH WE CAN DO TONIGHT.
SO I GUESS IT'LL BE IF SHE CAN BRING US BACK A DRAFT.
SO IT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE BEEN OPERATING LIKE THIS.
I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY STATES THAT SHE CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS, IT SAYS THAT CLEAR.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN DO TONIGHT, THOUGH.
UNDERSTOOD. AND WHAT NEXT STEPS WOULD BE? ANOTHER MEETING.
COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS. DO WE NEED DON'T WE COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL AND COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS IN ORDER TO CLEAN THIS UP? DON'T WE NEED THIS TO COME BACK, MAYBE TO THE NEXT MEETING? WE NEED TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY. CORRECT.
SO YES, I WILL. OH, NO. WE NEED TO PROPERLY. OH, YEAH.
SO, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING A CHARTER AMENDMENT.
NOPE. OKAY. JUST AN ORDINANCE FOR TO HELP TO SUPPLEMENT RULE 15 OF THE CHARTER TO AFFORD THE MAYOR PRIVILEGES TO. OR AUTHORIZATION TO ADD AGENDA ITEMS ITEMS TO THE AGENDA TO CLEAR UP THE AMBIGUITY OF RULE 15. AND. EXCUSE ME. MADAM MAYOR, I'M SORRY, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER HEMMING HAS BEEN IN FOR A MINUTE WITH HER HAND RAISED.
OKAY. THERE WAS DISCUSSION. SO WE STILL HAVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
THERE'S BEEN A SECOND. WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION.
THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES, OFTENTIMES WHERE THE ORDINANCES ARE AMBIGUOUS.
AND SO WHEN WE READ THE ORDINANCES, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK.
SO MY I WOULD PREFER THAT WE NOT MAKE TONS OF PIECEMEAL CHANGES, BUT THE CITY CLERK HAS GIVEN US SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT WHERE SHE SAYS, HEY, YOUR YOUR ORDINANCES ABOUT COUNCIL CONDUCT, FOR EXAMPLE, IS SILENT ON THESE ISSUE.
MY HOPE AS A PART OF THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY IS THAT RATHER THAN HAVING REACTIVE KIND OF CHANGES TO OUR RULES, THAT WE LOOK AT THEM IN THEIR TOTALITY, AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT ALLOWS US TO FACILITATE OUR MEETINGS BETTER THROUGHOUT THE MEETING TODAY.
THERE ARE PLACES IN THE RULES THAT HAVE SAID THAT WE SHOULD ONLY BE GOING IN MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE.
I HEARD MADAM MAYOR SAY THAT ON THE ISSUE WE HAD BEEN IN FIVE TIMES.
ARE QUESTIONS DIFFERENT THAN THAN DEBATES? SO I REALLY WOULD HOPE THAT AS YOU ALL HEAR MY QUESTIONS, YOU HEAR THEM IN THE SPIRIT OF, THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE HOW WE CONDUCT BUSINESS AND HOW WE REPRESENT THE CITY.
COUNCIL MEMBER, DOCTOR MARTIN ROGERS HAS HAD ON OUR AGENDA FOR A WHILE A DISCUSSION, FOR EXAMPLE,
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ABOUT CLEANING UP AND DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE FOR OUR WORK SESSION.I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, THE SPIRIT AND THE MOTIVATION BEHIND THIS QUESTION AND ALL OTHERS THAT I RAISE IS FOR THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE ARE RELATIVELY A NEW BODY, TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ON HOW WE CAN FUNCTION AND BEHAVE SO THAT WE DO IT IN PROPER PROCEDURE AND ORDINANCE.
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHEN WE FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES VERSUS WHEN WE DON'T.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR US NOT TO TRY TO REACT TO THIS ONE QUESTION NOW BY PASSING A PIECEMEAL CHANGE WHEN WE HAVE MANY CHANGES THAT I BELIEVE NEED TO TAKE PLACE SO THAT WE BETTER FOLLOW OUR RULES AND CONDUCT BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY.
AND WITH THAT, I YIELD. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS.
YES. THANK YOU. AND I AM JUST GOING TO CHIME IN AND ADD.
SO I JUST THINK AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
WE'VE ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE.
THIS IS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE MEETINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE DIALOG AND DISCUSSION.
AND AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY, SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
SO I'M CALLING FOR THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ROLL CALL PLEASE. MADAM CITY CLERK.
EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMEMBER ATKINS. COUNCILMEMBER ZIEGLER.
COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER. MITCHELL.
COUNCIL MEMBER. CALDWELL. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.
ROGERS. I. COUNCIL MEMBER. HEMMING. DON'T TAKE A MINUTE.
YES. I INCLUDED IT. DOES SHE DOES SHE HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND? WHAT'D YOU SAY? COUNCIL MEMBER HAD A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
NOT YET. THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER NAME LAST. WEEK, SIR.
YES. THE MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR THE ADJUSTMENT AND THE CONSIDERATION.
VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? ONE PERSONNEL. SO COUNCIL. WOMAN. CUMMINGS YOU HAVE TWO PERSONNEL.
MITCHELL YOU HAVE ONE PERSONNEL. ANY OTHER ITEMS? ONE. ALL RIGHT. ONE. ONE PERSONNEL. THREE LITIGATION.
AND ONE REAL ESTATE. YOU HAVE A REAL ESTATE? YES.
MARTIN ROGERS, YOU HAVE A REAL ESTATE. SO THAT'S ONE REAL ESTATE.
TWO. TWO REAL ESTATES. COUNCILMAN ATKINSON. OKAY, SO WE HAVE FOUR PERSONNEL, TWO REAL ESTATES IN THREE LITIGATION. I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE INTO.
OH. I'M SORRY. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ONE REAL ESTATE AND ONE PERSONNEL.
ONE REAL ESTATE. WHAT'S THIS ONE, MADAM MAYOR.
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MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH THREE REAL ESTATE, FIVE PERSONNEL AND THREE LITIGATIONS. THAT'S CORRECT.OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HAVING HAD TWO PERSONNEL.
OH, COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING, YOU HAVE TWO PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL.
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SEVEN. SEVEN. IT'S GOING TO BE THREE REAL ESTATE, SEVEN PERSONNEL AND THREE LITIGATION.OKAY. THREE. THREE. SEVEN. ALL RIGHT. YEP. THERE'S A MOTION TO.
AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. WE ARE NOW MOVING TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO PROCEED, AS DISCUSSED REGARDING THE SEWER ISSUE.
SO SECOND. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? NO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? REMEMBER, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO PROCEED AS DISCUSSED REGARDING THE AERIAL MATTER.
SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO PROCEED AS DISCUSSED WITH RESPECT TO THE 1599 WHERE PROPERTY SO MOVED SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. IS THERE A MOTION TO.
ADOPT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION MINUTES. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION MINUTES.
SECOND. BE SEATED. YOU HAVE TO BE SEATED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DO YOU HAVE TO? I'M SORRY, MADAM. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SEATED TO HAVE. FOR THE VOTE TO COUNT, YOU HAVE TO BE PRESENT. RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO BE SEATED. I'M NOT HEARING. THE QUESTION ON THE FLOOR IS, DOES A COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE TO BE IN HIS OR HER SEAT FOR THE VOTE TO COUNT? OKAY. CAN IF IT IS, CAN WE WAIVE THAT RULE THAT DOESN'T.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT.
OKAY. AND NEXT IT'S NOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.