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GOOD EVENING. I'M WILL MILLER, CHAIR OF THE EAST POINT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE. I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MAY MEETING TO ORDER.
STAFF, COULD YOU PLEASE ESTABLISH A ROLL CALL TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM? YES. CHAIRMAN MILLER. COMMISSIONER LEVITT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WATSON. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER STILES.
COMMISSIONER. PRESLEY. COMMISSIONER. DEMERY. COMMISSIONER REED.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER. ANDERSON. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER.
FIELDS. HERE, CHAIRMAN. YOU HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU, MADAM DIRECTOR.
AT THIS TIME. I'D LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING TO JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MADAM DIRECTOR COMMISSIONER PRESLEY IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE DIALING IN SOMEHOW.
COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS. AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT OUR AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
[VI. Adoption of Agenda]
MR. CHAIR. SECOND AND SECONDED THAT WE ADOPT OUR MAY 21ST, 2026 MEETING AGENDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. HEARING NONE, THE AYES HAVE IT.
[V. Approval of March 2026 PC Minutes]
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MARCH 26TH. SECOND.IT'S BEEN MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE OUR MARCH 26TH MEETING MINUTES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY.
HEARING NONE, THE AYES HAVE IT. SO WE ARE STARTING WITH NEW BUSINESS.
[VII.1. P2026RZ-001-03]
OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS. IT'S CASE NUMBER P 2026.RZ-001-03. STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES, IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS CASE NUMBER P2026-001-03.
THE APPLICANT IS TIMOTHY HELMS FUZE DESIGN STUDIO, LOCATION 3380 AND 3384 HARRISON ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM R-1, A URBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, TO RT RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME DISTRICT WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCES FROM TEN DASH 2069, A ONE TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AND SECTION TEN DASH 2069EB MINIMUM FRONT YARD 10FT TO ZERO FEET. CASE TYPE IS A REZONING WITH A CONCURRENT VARIANCE.
THANK YOU, MADAM DIRECTOR. AT THIS TIME, THE AGENDA ITEM DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL AT THIS TIME READ THE RULES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TEN DASH 2219 OF THE EAST POINT ZONING CODE AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AS FOLLOWS. PERSONS BOTH FAVORING AND OPPOSING THE PROPOSED CASE WILL BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. THE APPLICANT FOR THE ZONING CASE OR THE APPLICANT'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IF ANY, WILL BE ENTITLED TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES.
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SPEAKER OTHER THAN THE ZONING APPLICANT. THE ZONING APPLICANT MAY RESERVE A PORTION OF HIS OR HER ALLOTTED TIME FOR REBUTTAL.SPEAKERS SHOULD ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM PRIOR TO SPEAKING.
EACH SPEAKER SHALL IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND STATE HIS OR HER CURRENT ADDRESS.
EACH SPEAKER SHALL SPEAK ONLY TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REFUSE THE SPEAKER THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE.
IF, AFTER BEING CAUTIONED, THE SPEAKER CONTINUES TO VIOLATE THE RULES OF DECORUM.
YOU'VE HEARD THEM. YOU'VE NOW HEARD OUR RULES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, STAFF WHO SOUNDED THE CASE, AND AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONERS. I'LL OPEN IT.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. CHAIR.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER P 2026, R-001-03. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. HEARING NONE. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN FOR CASE NUMBER P2026-001-03 WITH THE APPLICANT. PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS.
HELLO. TIMOTHY HELMS WITH FUZE DESIGN STUDIO.
374 HASKELL ROAD, NORTHWEST ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A DEFERRAL TO HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE STAFF REPORT THAT CAME OUT YESTERDAY FOR OUR APPLICATION, AS WELL AS TO RESEARCH A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ALLEY AND ITS POTENTIAL SALE.
GREAT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROPONENTS HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CASE? SIR, YOU CAN STEP TO THE FRONT. PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS. JUSTIN ANDERSON, 3292 BACHELOR STREET IN EAGAN PARK.
FOR THOSE THAT WERE PRIVY TO THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS ONLINE I THANK YOU FOR RETURNING.
AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT EVERYONE'S RESPONSES AFTER OUR LAST MEETING.
IT'S ABOUT ANXIETY OVER WHAT WE FEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BECOME.
BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NEVER BEEN STATIC.
IT HAS ALWAYS EVOLVED DIFFERENT HOUSING STYLES, DIFFERENT SCALES, DIFFERENT GENERATIONS OF RESIDENTS, DIFFERENT ECONOMIC REALITIES OVER TIME. THAT TEXTURE IS ACTUALLY PART OF ITS IDENTITY.
AND PERSONALLY, I WOULD RATHER SEE US PARTICIPATE THOUGHTFULLY AND THAT EVOLUTION THAN RESPOND TO EVERY FORM OF CHANGE AS A THREAT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVES MAY NOT ACTUALLY PRODUCE THE OUTCOMES PEOPLE THINK THEY WILL.
THAT'S SIMPLY THE FINANCIAL REALITY OF CONSTRUCTION TODAY. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, HONESTLY, WHETHER PRESERVING EXCLUSIVITY AT A HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER PRICE POINT IS ACTUALLY THE THING WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT.
BECAUSE FOR ME, ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE THINGS ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN ITS RANGE OF PEOPLE FAMILIES CONNECTED TO WOODWARD, DELTA EMPLOYEES, PORTION EMPLOYEES, LONGTIME RESIDENTS, YOUNGER BUYERS TRYING TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES, PEOPLE AT VERY DIFFERENT STAGES OF LIFE. AND I WORRY SOMETIMES THAT WHEN COMMUNITIES RESIST EVERY FORM OF THOUGHTFUL DENSITY OR HOUSING VARIATION, WHAT THEY UNINTENTIONALLY CREATE IS A FUTURE WHERE ONLY A VERY NARROW SEGMENT OF PEOPLE CAN REMAIN.
THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE PRESERVATION TO ME. THAT FEELS LIKE GRADUAL LOSS.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY PROJECT IS AUTOMATICALLY GOOD. OF COURSE NOT. DESIGN MATTERS.
TRANSITION MATTERS. INFRASTRUCTURE MATTERS. RUNOFF.
BUT I THINK THOSE ARE QUESTIONS OF EXECUTION, NOT REASONS TO REJECT THE BROADER IDEA OUTRIGHT.
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IN TRANSPARENCY, I WORK IN REAL ESTATE AND I ALSO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.BOTH ARE THINGS THAT I AM VERY PROUD OF. THOSE ROLES MEAN I SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME THINKING ABOUT HOUSING, COMMUNITY DYNAMICS, LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY, AND THE DIRECTION THAT NEIGHBORHOODS EVOLVE INTO OVER TIME.
SO YES, I BRING A PARTICULAR PERSPECTIVE TO THIS CONVERSATION, ONE GROUNDED IN STEWARDSHIP, LIVED EXPERIENCE, AND A DEEP CARE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S ROOTED IN BELIEVING THAT HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS NEED FLEXIBILITY. THEY NEED ADAPTABILITY.
AND I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING QUITE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT CREATING HOMES THAT ARE INTENTIONAL AND SCALE MANAGEABLE AND MAINTENANCE CONNECTED IN DESIGN, AND POTENTIALLY EVEN CREATE A KIND OF MICRO COMMUNITY WITHIN THE LARGER FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO FOR ME, THIS CONVERSATION ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO STEWARDSHIP, NOT JUST PROTECTING WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN, BUT THINKING CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT IT ALLOWS, WHAT ALLOWS IT TO REMAIN ALIVE, WELCOMING, AND RESILIENT INTO THE FUTURE.
I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT? SIR. STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS TOM WARDLOW. I LIVE IN WARD B, THE SAME AREA OF EDEN PARK.
1301 MERCER AVENUE. I'VE BEEN HERE SIX YEARS.
I'VE SEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NOT CHANGE IN MY COMMUNITY.
SO I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE. ONE, IT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASES THE TAX BASE.
IT RAISES THE OVERALL PRICE OF HOUSES AVAILABLE TO BUY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT SUPPORTS A GUY COMMITTED TO MAKING MORE AND MORE HOUSES WHEREVER HE CAN IN THE CITY.
YEAH. I'M WORRIED I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE WORRIED.
THIS. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? COMMUNITY IN A COMMUNITY.
WE TRIED LONG AND HARD TO GET PARTICIPATION. WE TRIED IT ON THE BASIS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
EAGAN PARK NOT A GROUP OF TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE HOUSES, BUT AS A COMMUNITY OF EAGAN PARK.
SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO, BUT MAYBE THEY'VE GOT ALL THE ANSWERS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. JUST TO CONFIRM, THAT WAS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME? ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROJECT? SIR, AGAIN STATES YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS.
OF COURSE. MY NAME IS TOM WARDLOW. I LIVE AT 1301 MERCER AVENUE IN EAST POINT, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY HARD TO GET YOUR HANDS AROUND YOUR MIND AROUND FOR ME, BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO TOTALLY OUT OF THE WHOLE CHARACTER OF EGON PARK. WE ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PREPARING THEIR PRESENTATION OF HOW THEY'VE OVERCOME ALL THESE THINGS.
WE HAVE A BIG TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN THE INTERSECTION DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE, WELL, WE HAVE A SCHOOL FULL OF TEENAGE DRIVERS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT STOP AT THE STOP SIGNS.
BUT AGAIN, MAYBE THEY'VE GOT A GOOD PLAN FOR IT.
I THINK IT'S JUST OUT OF SCALE OF EAGAN PARK.
I RECOGNIZE IT COULD MAKE PEOPLE SOME GOOD MONEY THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE.
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ASSOCIATION MEETING, THE QUESTION CAME UP. HOW MUCH? WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATE OF THE UNIT COST? WHAT WILL IT COST SOMEONE TO BUY ONE OF THESE UNITS? AND THEY SAID, OH, WE'RE BUILDING THEM TO BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND BUY THEM AND 450,000.NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE IN $450,000 HOMES.
I DON'T AND I LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A HOUSE IN EAST POINT IS ANYWHERE NEAR $450,000. SOMETIMES OUR BUDGET TALKING ABOUT.
THE MILLAGE RATE AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THEY WERE BASING IT ON $110,000 VALUE HOUSE.
SO THERE'S SUCH A MISMATCH ABOUT WHAT'S AFFORDABLE.
AND ANYWAY, IF IF IT COULD BE MADE TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BELOW AT THE POVERTY LEVEL OR BELOW THE AVERAGE INCOME OF THE CITY OF EAST POINT, I MIGHT BE MORE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I'D STILL HAVE THE SAME DENSITY PROBLEMS. IT'S IN THE WRONG. IT JUST DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'D HAVE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I WISH I COULD SUPPORT IT MORE ROBUSTLY, BUT I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PLAN AND IT WOULD BRING MORE TAX MONEY INTO THE CITY AND.
WAIT A MINUTE. OKAY. NEVER MIND. I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.
HOW IS THIS BENEFICIAL TO EAST POINT? HOW IS THIS BENEFICIAL TO EAGAN PARK? I CAN SEE HOW IT'S BENEFICIAL TO REAL THIRST.
THANK YOU. PLEASE LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL SPOKE BOTH FOR AND AGAINST THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROJECT? HEARING NONE AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ADHERING MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER P 2026, RZ-001-03. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. HEARING NONE, THE AYES HAVE IT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE SOUND YOUR RECOMMENDATION, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM? 333 LOCATED AT 3380 AND 3384 HARRISON ROAD.
CASE NUMBER P2026RZ001-03. THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST FOR A DEFERRAL AND STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THAT DEFERRAL, SO WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A. MAY I HAVE A MOTION FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AS FAR AS FOR THE DEFERRAL? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE DEFERRAL OF THIS ITEM TO A FUTURE DATE.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT THIS BODY APPROVES THE DEFERRAL OF CASE NUMBER PP2026, RZ-001-03. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. THE DEFERRAL IS APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS. IT'S CASE NUMBER P 2026, V-002-04.
[VII.2. P2026V-002-04]
STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE SOUND THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES, CHAIRMAN. IN REFERENCE TO ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER DASH 002-04.THE APPLICANT, THERESA CUMMINGS PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2937 DODSON DRIVE.
CASE TYPE IS A VARIANCE. THANK YOU STAFF. YOU'VE SOUNDED THE CASE AND AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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P2026002-04. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. HEARING NONE, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN FOR CASE NUMBER P2026V-002-04 WITH THE APPLICANT. PLEASE COME STEP TO THE PODIUM.GIVE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS.
THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS STARR CUMMINGS.
MY ADDRESS IS 2863 CHERRY BLOSSOM LANE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA, 30344.
AND I WILL SAY THIS, I'M GOING TO COME TO YOU NOW AS COUNCIL MEMBER CUMMINGS FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT MY APPOINTEE, COMMISSIONER PRESLEY, I KNOW HE SAID THAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON VIA, I GUESS ZOOM.
SO I JUST WOULD NEED HIM TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THIS PROCESS BECAUSE HE IS MY APPOINTEE.
AND NOW I'M REVERTING BACK TO PLEASE GO AHEAD.
OKAY, SO NOW I'M REVERTING BACK TO STARR CUMMINGS AS AN APPLICANT.
HI. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.
SO I WILL BRIEFLY I WILL GO THROUGH MY PRESENTATION.
YES, I'M AT 28, 63 CHERRY BLOSSOM LANE. I LOVE EAST POINT SO MUCH.
SO MUCH TO THE POINT THAT I BOUGHT A HOUSE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM WHERE I CURRENTLY AM, AND I WANT TO MAKE THAT OUR FOREVER HOME. SO THAT ADDRESS IS 2937.
CAN I USE THE CLICKER? OKAY. 2937 DODSON DRIVE.
SO ALL THE ARROWS. HERE WE GO. GOTCHA. SO WHAT IT IS THAT I'M REQUESTING THIS EVENING IS AN ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE EXTERNAL MATERIAL USAGE THAT WE WILL HAVE. SO HERE THIS FIRST SLIDE IS GOING TO BE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
IT SITS ON THE CORNER OF DODSON DRIVE AND DODSON LEE DRIVE.
SO THAT GIVES YOU A AERIAL AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE OF THE STRUCTURE.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT IN OUR NEW AS OUR NEW HOME.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE HOUSE THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.
AND THAT'S SORT OF SIMILAR TO THE MATERIAL THAT WE WOULD BE USING FOR OUR HOME.
THERE WILL BE BRICK AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS HERE AND HARDIPLANK.
SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS NEXT DOOR. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO GO FROM 2340FT² TO 3462. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR JUST AN ADDITIONAL 1222FT².
AND AGAIN, A COMBINATION OF BRICK AND HARDIPLANK SIDING FOR THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOME.
AND I KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME HOMES THAT ARE NOT EVEN THEY'RE LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM OUR HOME. SO WE'RE ON DOTSON.
SO ALL THREE OF THESE HOMES THAT ARE, WELL, ONE OF THEM IS LARGER THAN WHAT IT IS THAT WE WERE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD, BUT THEY ARE OF THE SAME SIZE OR NOT. THAT DOES THAT DOES HAVE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT AREA.
SO THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE DONE SO FAR, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR OUR PERMITS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEMO, THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT. IT WAS DENIED. SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THOSE CHANGES.
IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE ON THERE.
THEY DID THE CITY DID ISSUE OUR DEMO PERMIT. THE LAND HAS BEEN CLEARED AND IT'S BEEN GRADED OFF, AND THERE WAS AN APPROVAL ON THE DEMO PERMIT PER THE CITY.
SO WE LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT HAS BEEN RESUBMITTED WITH THE CITY REQUIREMENTS.
AND NOW, AS WE SAID, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THE VARIANCE ON IT.
WE DID HAVE OUR INITIAL MEETING WITH PLANNING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO LET THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THEY WERE AWARE OF IT AS WELL.
AND AS FAR AND ALSO THE WARD CHOA PRESIDENT IT WAS EMAILED OUT TO THEM AS WELL.
AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
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OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROPONENTS HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING CASE? AGAIN, ARE THERE ANY PROPONENTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING CASE? ANY OPPONENT. ANY EXCUSE ME, ANY OPPONENTS TO SPEAKING AGAINST THIS ZONING CASE.ARE THERE ANY OPPONENTS? OKAY. SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SET PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER P 2026, V-002-4. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. HEARING NONE, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE SOUND YOUR RECOMMENDATION? YES, CHAIRMAN. IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM, THE REQUEST APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM ARTICLE J, SECTION FIVE, F AND FIVE G. THE PROPERTY HAS A CURRENT ZONING MAP LAND USE DESIGNATION AS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL LIMITED, WHICH IS THE CITY'S LARGER LOT SIZE.
ESTATE LOTS. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS OVER AN ACRE IN SIZE.
IF YOU SEE AT THE TOP IN EITHER MAP, THE LAND USE MAP OR THE ZONING MAP, YOU SEE THE PROPERTIES ARE LARGER ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH AND THEN SMALLER LOTS ON THE EAST AND WEST.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.
THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY WITH A ACCESSORY DWELLING.
AND THIS PROPERTY IS TO REMAIN RESIDENTIAL LIMITED AS IT IS, AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE BEING.
THE. RESIDENTIAL STAFF DOES RECOMMEND. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON A.
BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED HOUSE OF 3994FT² IN AREA ON A 57,935 SQUARE FOOT LOT, THE PROPOSED LOT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 6.89% OF THE LOT.
THEREFORE, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE FROM ARTICLE J, SECTION FIVE, F AND FIVE G, WHICH COVERS SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS AND AS STATED, THE LOT IS SUFFICIENT SIZE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED DWELLING, AS IT IS OVER AN ACRE IN SIZE.
THAT'S THE END OF STAFF'S REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT THIS BODY APPROVES THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR CASE NUMBER P2026V-002-04. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. HEARING NONE. THE AYES HAVE IT. YOUR CASE IS APPROVED.
SO THIS WOULD NOT COME TO PLANT, WOULD NOT COME TO CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
[VII.3. P2026U-001-04 P2026VC-001-04]
IT'S CASE NUMBER P 2026, U-004, WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCE.P 2026, V-001-04. STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE SOUND THE SOUND THE AGENDA ITEM, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS CASE NUMBER P2026-001-04.
IN CASE NUMBER P2026-001-04. THE APPLICANT IS ROBERTO SULLIVAN.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT AT 1577 EAST TAYLOR AVENUE.
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THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE PERMIT FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2137 RECYCLING CENTER.MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS IT? IT'S BEEN MOTION.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER P 2026, U-001-04, WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCE P2026-001-04. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. HEARING NONE, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN FOR CASE NUMBER P 2026, U-001-04 AND CONCURRENT VARIANCE P 2026. VC 001-04 WITH THE APPLICANT. PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM.
PROVIDE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS.
ROBERT SULLIVAN 1220 RINGWAY ROAD, AUSTELL, GEORGIA 30168.
EVENING. MY NAME IS TIFFANY SULLIVAN AND I JUST IS A 1210 LIVING WAY OUTSIDE GEORGIA.
ZIP CODE 30168. EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, CAN YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS? TIFFANY SULLIVAN, AND THE ADDRESS IS 1210 WAY.
ALSO, GEORGIA, CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO SORRY, TIFFANY SOLVENT 1210 LING WAY, AUSTELL, GEORGIA, ZIP CODE 30168. GREAT. THANK YOU.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR CASE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE SALVATION NATION FROM KITCHEN WASTE TO CLEAN FUEL.
SALVATION LEADS THE WAY. WE ARE JUST. OKAY. SO WE ARE LOCATED THE SHOP.
WE WOULD LIKE THE SHOP TO BE LOCATED AT 1577 EAST TAYLOR AVENUE.
IT IS A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA. WE ARE JUST REQUESTING A PERMIT FOR RECYCLING FOR FOR OUR COMPANY.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF HOW OUR CONTAINERS LOOK BEHIND RESTAURANTS.
WE, WE DO ASK OUR CUSTOMERS TO PLEASE MAINTAIN A CLEAN SANITARY.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE OVERFLOWS. WE ALSO REQUIRE THEM TO CALL US AHEAD OF TIME TO SCHEDULE A PICKUP.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE LETTING US KNOW THAT IT'S TIME FOR A RESTAURANT PICKUP.
THAT WAY THEY'RE USED. COOKING OIL IS BEING CONTAINED.
WE'VE SEEN A FEW ALL OVER GEORGIA. WE WOULD LIKE TO HELP EAST POINT.
WE'VE SEEN A FEW OF THEM. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE HERE IN EAST POINT WITH YOU GUYS.
ONE OF THE ANALYSIS THAT CAME OUT WAS THE SOUND AND ORDER.
EVERYTHING WOULD BE WITH PVC PIPING. SO YOU WON'T HAVE AN ORDER IN THE SHOP.
AND THE SOUND, IT'S VERY MINOR. I DO HAVE A VIDEO OF IT SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT IS VERY MINOR.
IT'S A MOTOR THAT JUST RUNS. IT'S NOT EVEN AS LOUD AS A DIESEL MOTOR.
THIS IS OUR STORAGE CONTAINERS. THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD STORE THE OILS IN.
EVERYTHING IT IS CONTAINED. EVERYTHING IS PVC PIPE.
WE HAVE A THE CONTAINMENT WALLS. THIS WOULD BE FUTURE RECYCLING.
WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND PUT IT ALL IN OUR PLANS.
THAT WAY WE HAVE IT. AGAIN, WE ARE A HUSBAND AND WIFE THAT ARE JUST STARTING A BUSINESS.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND JUST DID FOR ALL OF IT ALL AT ONCE.
IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ASK.
MY HUSBAND HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE ON THIS PART THAN I DO.
THIS IS HOW WE WOULD CLEAN IT. IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM AGAIN.
EVERYTHING IS THROUGH PVC PIPELINES. THERE WON'T BE NO ORDER.
WE HAVE THE WALLS THAT WILL BE SET UP. THE ONLY TIME THAT OUR HOSES WILL BE USED.
AND AGAIN, WE WOULD BE VERY CAUTIOUS ON HOW WE DO IT IS WHEN WE TRANSPORT IT FROM HERE TO A TANKER TRUCK THAT WHICH IS OUR BUYER, THAT THEY WOULD PICK IT UP PROPERLY. THIS IS THE WASTE MANAGEMENT.
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ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THAT WE ALL WOULD HAVE WATER.LET ME SEE. DOES IT PLAY IF I CLICK WOULD IT PLAY? THERE YOU GO. OH THEY CAN'T HEAR IT. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE WOULD CLEAN THE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE TWO COMPANIES THAT WOULD TAKE THE WATER WASTE, WHICH IS EASY GREASE AND GREASE CONNECTIONS.
AND THEY WERE PROPERLY TRANSPORTED. AND THEN THE DRY SETTLEMENT GETS DISTRIBUTED TO FARMERS, ANY FARMERS AROUND THE AREA? THEY USE IT FOR PIG FEED OR FOR COMPOST AND I. OH. AND THEN IT'S JUST OUR PURPOSE HERE IS FOR FOR EASTPOINT.
WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BETTER AND HELP RESTAURANTS GROW FUTURE AND CURRENT RESTAURANTS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE HERE TODAY TO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ALLOW US TO BE HERE.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN HELP. EASTPOINT AND RESTAURANTS.
WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD PLENTY OF CALLS OF THE BIG COMPANIES NOT PICKING UP THE OIL.
THEIR OILS ARE GETTING STOLEN. THEY'RE GETTING THROWN ON THE FLOOR. THERE HAS BEEN MANY CASES, MANY POLICE REPORTS OF PEOPLE STEALING OIL, DROPPING IT ON THE FLOOR, ACCIDENTS OCCURRING, PEOPLE GETTING HURT FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST TO COLLECT THE COOKING OIL.
AND SO OUR THING IS, IS WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO INSTALL SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS ON OUR CONTAINERS TO ALSO HELP WITH REPORTING ON THE CRIMES AND TO LOWER DOWN THE CRIMES. WE'RE ALSO INSTALLING INDOOR CONTAINERS.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. YOU ALL MAY HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROPONENTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING CASE? ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROPONENTS HERE TO SPEAK FOR THIS ZONING CASE? ARE THERE ANY OPPONENTS TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THIS ZONING CASE? ANY OPPONENTS? OKAY. SEEING AND HEARING NONE COMMISSIONERS.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER P 2026, U-001-04, AND CONCURRENT VARIANCE P 2026, VC-001-04. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
STAFF AT THIS TIME. WOULD YOU SOUND YOUR RECOMMENDATION, MR. CHAIRMAN? IN REFERENCE TO CASE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1577 EAST TAYLOR AVENUE, KNOWN AS CASE NUMBER P 2026, U001-04, AND CASE NUMBER P2026-001-04. THE APPLICANT, ROBERTO SOLVENT.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED I ONE, WHICH IS OUR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A USE PERMIT FROM SECTION TEN DASH 2137 RECYCLE CENTER AND PROCESSING.
FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS A DESIGNATION AS TOWN CENTER SUBAREA ONE.
IN THIS AREA, THE CITY ENVISIONS A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED CENTER OF COMMUNITY, INCLUDING HISTORY OF CULTURE, BUSINESS AND NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ATTRACTIVE TO VISITORS, COMMUNITY COMMUTERS, AND RESIDENTS.
THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF TOWN CENTER SUBAREA ONE DESIGNATES INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING.
AS TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS R T R2, R3R4CR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONAL SOOY COMMERCIAL LIMITED AND 0IT AS WELL AS OUR MIXED USE
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INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL. THOSE ARE TYPICAL ZONING DISTRICTS FOR THIS AREA.STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH CONCURRENT VARIANCE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.
FOR THE DISTANCE TO RESIDENTIAL. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I'M GOING TO READ IN THE.
THE REST OF IT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE. I'M SORRY FOR THE HESITATION.
CONDITION NUMBER TWO. APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE AN OPERATION PLAN FOR THE INTENDED USE.
CONDITION NUMBER THREE. THE APPLICANT MUST COORDINATE WITH THE CITY TO MITIGATE ANY NOXIOUS EMISSIONS, SUCH AS SOUND, ODOR, ETC. BEING PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S THE END OF OUR RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.
IS IT TO CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT? YES, PLEASE. WOULD YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AGAIN, PLEASE? THANK YOU. THERE IS A PART THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US A PROCESS, BUT YOU WERE NOT GOING TO DO IMPLEMENT THAT PROCESS NOW. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH AS TO WHY WOULDN'T YOU IMPLEMENT IT NOW? AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE MISSING BY WAITING? WELL, WHAT'S GOING TO BE MISSING RIGHT NOW IS THE HEAT ELEMENT, MEANING THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE NO FIRE, NOTHING HEATING UP THE OIL.
RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S JUST STORAGE. EVERYTHING'S JUST STORING SO IT COULD GET TAKEN TO A PLANT.
RIGHT NOW THAT'S DOING THE PROCESSING. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST BASICALLY X.
I GOT I GOT A THOUSAND GALLONS. HE'S TAKING A THOUSAND GALLONS.
SO HE COULD TAKE IT TO GET IT PROCESSED, CLEANED OUT AND TURN IT INTO BIOFUEL.
THE, AND THE CONTAINER THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT NOW WOULD DO WHAT.
AND THEN BRING EVERYTHING THAT BASICALLY GRAVITY BRINGS EVERYTHING DOWN.
WATER IS HEAVIER THAN OIL. SO EVERYTHING WILL BE INTO THE BOTTOM AND EVERYTHING GETS SEPARATED.
IT. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WOULD IT BE APPLIED IS ANY TYPE OF HEATING SOURCE THAT'S LATER ON, ONCE WE ARE MORE ESTABLISHED AND HAVE EVERYTHING RUNNING THE WAY WE WANT IT TO RUN, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW IN BOILERS AND AND THEN WISH FOR THE BEST.
OKAY. AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. DIRECTOR SMITH, CAN YOU TELL US WHO ON THE EAST POINT STAFFING FROM POLICE TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHO IS ACTUALLY OVERSEEING A PROCESS LIKE THIS? I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE ISSUE IS, WHEN AND IF IT IT AROSE.
I MEAN, IT MAY BE CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT MAY BE OUR WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT ISSUE ARISES, WHICH DEPARTMENT WOULD HANDLE IT.
SO IT WOULD BE A CASE BY CASE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS.
SO MY REASON FOR THE QUESTION IS THERE IS NO ONGOING OVERSIGHT ON THIS.
WE'RE JUST BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY UNFAMILIAR WITH STORING FLAMMABLE MATERIALS.
WE COULD LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE FURTHER AND PROVIDE.
I DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE. YES, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION.
HOW I GUESS HOW LONG DOES THE OLD HOW LONG WILL IT SIT IN YOU IN THE CONTAINER? THE, THE MOST, THE EIGHT HOURS, EIGHT HOURS AND THEN IT GETS TRANSFERRED.
OKAY. IT'S MOSTLY JUST TO LET EVERYTHING SIT DOWN, LET EVERYTHING SEPARATE.
THEN WE TRY TO SEPARATE THE WATER TO PUT IT IN A SEPARATE CONTAINER.
SO THAT CONTAINER SO THAT WATER COULD GET DISPOSED OF PROPERLY.
SO IT WILL BE TIME OF OPERATION FROM WHEN WE OPEN TO WHEN WE CLOSE.
THAT'S WHEN THE CONTAINERS WOULD HAVE ANY TYPE OF OIL IN IT OR WATER.
IT'S DURING OUR TIME OF OPERATION. IT DOESN'T STAY OVERNIGHT OR ANYTHING.
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THE HEATING ELEMENT WHEN THE HEATING ELEMENT IS APPLIED THAT'S WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE FLAMMABLE.IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT NOT FLAMMABLE NOW. NO IT WOULDN'T BE FLAMMABLE.
IT TAKES A LOT OF HEAT TO ACTUALLY SET OFF COOKING OIL.
COOKING OIL IS MEANT TO TAKE HEAT. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE FRY IT, RIGHT? SO IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT FLAMMABLE. IT'S NOT FLAMMABLE.
IT DEPENDS ON THE CONDITIONS. NOW, IF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING IT OUT IN THE OPEN AND THEY'RE SETTING UP OPEN FLAMES ON IT, THEN OF COURSE, BUT IT'S NOT OPEN FLAME. LITERALLY EVERYTHING WE'RE HEATING UP IS WATER.
AND THE WATER OF THE HEAT IS WHAT'S COOKING THE OIL.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S REALLY HEAT OR FIRE TOUCHING THE THE OIL.
SO IT'S MOSTLY WE'RE HEATING UP WATER AND THE WATER HEAT, THE EVAPORATION WAS COOKING THE OIL.
THIS WAS MAKING IT HOT. SO IT WASN'T SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION.
SO LIKE WHEN RAGS AND OIL ANY JUST SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY IN THIS SCENARIO? NO. OKAY.
ALSO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT ODOR.
HOW DO YOU PLAN ON MITIGATING THE ODOR IF YOU WERE TO APPLY A HEAT SOURCE TO IT? WELL, IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S COOKING OIL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ODOR.
THE ODOR IS INSIDE A CONTAINER. IT'S IN A PLASTIC CONTAINER, SO IT'S SEALED.
NOW WHEN IT COMES TO ORDERS AND IT IS A SAYING THE FACTORIES ARE AROUND US, PERMITS, ORDERS ALL DAY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I HAVE A FACTORY. YOU PASS THROUGH IT.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SMELL IS CLOROX, YOU KNOW.
THEY'RE THROWING GREASE IN THE IN THE CONTAINERS.
ALL THOSE DON'T STOP ODOR FROM RELEASING OR COMING OUT.
IN THE END OF THE DAY, AN ORDER IS GOING TO DISSIPATE.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT COULD REALLY STOP FROM DOING THAT BESIDES PUTTING IT IN THE CONTAINER.
GOT IT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE MORE QUESTIONS? YES, I HAD I JUST HAVE ONE STATEMENT.
SO YOU HAVE CONTRACTED WITH THE RESTAURANTS IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY RETRIEVE THIS OIL FROM THEM? YES. WE PROVIDE THEM CONTAINERS. THEY PUT THE OIL IN THE CONTAINERS AND WE PAY THEM SO THAT THEY'RE MAKING MONEY OFF OF THE OIL AND THEN THE TRUCKS THAT COME AND PICK IT UP FROM YOU. SO IS THIS A CLOSED PRICE? IT'S A CLOSED PROCESS THROUGH PIPING.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THE TRUCKS COME, THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT THE PIPE TO YOUR PARTICULAR FACILITY.
YES. AND DRAW THE OIL OUT FROM THERE. YES. CORRECT.
WELL, RIGHT NOW, YES. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY TRANSFERRING. ORDERING. ONCE WE START DOING THE PROCESSING, IT WILL NEED A HEAT SOURCE AND ALL IT DOES, WE TRY TO HEAT IT UP TO 210 DEGREES.
OIL HAS A HEAT POINT AND LITERALLY THAT'S BELOW THE HEAT POINT.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE THE LIQUID RUNOFF FROM THAT PROCESS? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WATER. IT'S GOING TO BE SEPARATED WATER AND OIL.
AND THEN ALSO A DRY ELEMENT IN THERE. HOW DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY? WELL, THE DRY ELEMENT IS SEPARATED, AS WE SHOWED IN THE VIDEO.
IT GETS SEPARATED AND IT GETS PUT INTO SAND BAGS AND WE LET IT DRY.
SO LIKE THAT, IT GETS TAKEN TO PIG FARMS. SO WHERE THEY USE IT FOR PIG FEEDING AND COMPOST.
AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE LIQUID THAT COMES THE WATERWAYS? WE PUT IT IN A SEPARATE CONTAINER WHICH IS A WASTE CONTAINER.
THEY'LL GIVE US A MANIFEST OF WHAT'S BEEN TAKEN AND WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN DISPOSED OF.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LOVETT.
YES. ONE LAST QUESTION. CURRENTLY, THE CONTAINERS ARE OUTSIDE, AND YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PUTTING THE CONTAINERS INSIDE. YES, MA'AM. ALL OUR CONTAINERS WILL BE INSIDE.
OKAY, SO GO AHEAD. THERE WILL BE NO CONTAINERS IN THE OUTSIDE.
EVERYTHING WILL BE INSIDE. WHEN WE DID THE APPLICATION IT WAS JUST TOLD TO US.
GO AHEAD. PUT EVERYTHING THAT WE PLAN TO DO. WE WERE FIRST JUST GOING TO BE A STORAGE COMPANY.
WE DID SAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE WE DID WANT TO DO THE RECYCLING AND PROCESSING.
THEY JUST TOLD US, GO AHEAD, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT IT ALL.
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THAT WAY WE WE ARE GOOD FOR ANYTHING THAT WE DO DECIDE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.THE ONLY THING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING WOULD PROBABLY BE OUR VEHICLES PARKED. THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. I HAVE A QUESTION. I SEE THE OUTSIDE OIL TRAPS.
OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE GREASE TRAPS THAT ARE UNDERGROUND AS WELL, OR JUST SO WE DON'T DO GREASE TRAPS YET? I DO HAVE OUR FOG LICENSE. WE DID JUST GET IT TO DO GREASE TRAPS, BUT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO MORE STEPS TO BE FULLY CERTIFIED ADULTS.
GREASE TRAPS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S IN THE VERY, VERY FUTURE FOR ME RIGHT NOW, ALL WE WANT TO DO IS JUST THE USE COOKING OIL SO WE WON'T BE THE ONES IN CHARGE OF GREASE TRAPS. BUT ANY CUSTOMER THAT WE DO GET THAT HAS GREASE TRAPS, IT WOULD BE WE WOULD GIVE IT OFF TO ONE OF THE TWO COMPANIES THAT I DID MENTION.
THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO SERVICE THE GREASE TRAPS FOR THEM.
GOT IT. EXCUSE ME, DO YOU HAVE A TIME FRAME FOR YOUR EXPANSION? SO RIGHT NOW MY EXPANSION IS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
THE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO WHO AT THE CITY THEY WILL HAVE TO GET PERMITTED THROUGH OUR FATS, OILS AND GREASES, OUR FOG HERE IN THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE IS SOMEONE HERE AT THE CITY THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE CHECKING IN ON, ON THIS FACILITY.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTION.
THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS, IS WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT WHEN SOMEBODY COMES AND PICKS UP? I UNDERSTAND THE EQUIPMENT IS ABOUT AS LOUD AS A DIESEL ENGINE.
BUT HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT COMING AND GOING AND HOW I'M JUST ON A BASIC LEVEL.
WHO, WHO BUYS IT? THE OIL AND WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT? SO, SO WE BUY THE COOKING OIL FROM THE RESTAURANT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, DIFFERENT THINGS THEY DO WITH IT.
THEY ACTUALLY USE MEDICINE FOR IT. THEY USE DIESEL FUEL FOR IT, MAKEUP.
THEY ALSO USE COCA-COLA USES IT. COCA-COLA USES IT.
I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT IT TOO. BUT. ON YOUR QUESTION ON THE VEHICLES, IT WOULD ONLY BE TWO VEHICLES.
IT'S TWO TANKER TRUCKS. IT'S EITHER A COMPANY THAT COMES.
I NORMALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO IT BOTH VEHICLES THE SAME DAY.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE DAY. YES. AND THEN ONE DAY WOULD BE THE WASTEWATER, THE NEXT DAY WOULD BE THE, THE DRIVEWAYS, MEANING FARMERS CAN COME GRAB IT OR WE CAN PROPERLY DISPOSE OF IT, TAKING IT TO THEM.
LIKE I SAY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE VEHICLE AT THE MOMENT.
IT'S A BUSINESS THAT ME AND MY HUSBAND JUST STARTED AND WE HAVEN'T EXPANDED THAT BIG.
THAT IS OUR GOAL, TO BE ONE OF THESE BIG COMPANIES ONE DAY.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S ONLY ONE VEHICLE AND IT WILL BE A TANKER TRUCK.
LIKE I'M LITERALLY BY RADIUS AND THAT'S ALL DAY LONG.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIR. MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I BEG YOUR PARDON? SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR RECOMMEND.
OH, OKAY. WELL, MR. CHAIR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WELL, CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR MOTION, THEN? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE VARIANCE.
I MEAN WE APPROVED THE USE PERMIT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS STATED BY THE DIRECTOR.
CAN I GET A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT THIS BODY APPROVES STAFF RECOMMENDATION. EXCUSE ME. DENY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR CASE NUMBER 2026-001-04
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AND CONCURRENT VARIANCE P 2026, VC-001-04. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, CONCERNS OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. YOUR CASE IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.THANK YOU SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME, OUR NEXT ANNOUNCEMENTS.
[VIII. Announcements]
STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS EVENING? I WANTED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS HIRED A NEW ASSOCIATE PLANNER, MR. BERNARD MORGAN. HE SHOULD BE IN THE AUDIENCE, I CAN.COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF MICROPHONES. Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME GOOD.
NO. SPEAK UP TO THE MIC. OH, YOU WANT THE MIC? SO YOU WANT ME TO TALK IN THE MIC? OKAY, COOL.
HEY, HOW Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME IS SHANNON MORGAN AND I AM THE NEW ASSOCIATE PLANNER.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO I ASK A QUESTION? WHERE ARE YOU FROM? WHAT SCHOOL YOU WENT TO, WHERE YOU ARE.
TOOK A GAP YEAR OFF. THEN I TRANSFERRED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN TO CONDUCT MY GRADUATE DEGREES IN URBAN PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE, WHERE I SPECIALIZE IN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND GEO SPATIAL DATA SCIENCES.
WELCOME TO OUR WORLD. YEAH. WELCOME. WELCOME.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING ME.
STAFF. ANY MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS? AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDERGOING THE ZONING ORDINANCE REWRITE.
AND OUR TEAM AND OUR CONSULTANTS INSPIRE, WHO ARE HIRED TO CONDUCT THE REWRITE ON OUR BEHALF.
THERE IS AN ACTIVITY FOR EVERYONE TO DO. IT'S VERY INTERACTIVE, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT AND ENGAGEMENT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE REWRITE. THANK YOU. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE EMAILED TO US SO WE CAN SPREAD IT? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE BODY? NO ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE BODY AT THIS TIME. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. THE. THE HAVING. THE HAVING.
HEARING ANY. EXCUSE ME. SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. HEARING NONE. THE AYES HAVE IT.
THE MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. DON'T FORGET YOU. ALL RIGHT?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.