Sep 21, 2026 City Council

[ I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2026. MADAM CITY CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER. HUME. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. FREHLEY. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ATKINS. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. ZIEGLER.

COUNCIL MEMBER. CUMMINGS. COUNCIL. MEMBER. MITCHELL. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER.

CALDWELL. PRESENT. COUNCIL. MEMBER. MARTIN. ROGERS. MAYOR. MOORE. 02345. MAYOR CHAPMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. TONIGHT'S INVOCATION WILL BE DONE BY REVEREND CLARK FROM SAINT PAUL MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, THEN FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. THANK YOU. AMEN. LET US BOW OUR HEADS NOW IN REVERENCE TO THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD.

SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD, FALL FRESH ON ME. SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD. FALL FRESH ON EVERYONE UNDER THE SOUND OF MY FEEBLE VOICE. DEAR GOD IS ONCE MORE AGAIN TO BE PAUSED JUST TO SAY THANK YOU, LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TO LIFT UP THE CITY OF EAST POINT, THE CITIZENS, ITS CONSTITUENTS, AND TO GOD. WE ASK THAT YOU PUT A HEDGE OF COVERING AND PROTECTION ON EVERYBODY IN THE CITY. WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU CREATE A SPIRIT OF UNITY AND CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL. DEAR GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE THEM DISCERNING SPIRITS AS THEY GOVERN THE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO, AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU LET PHILANTHROPISTS COME FROM THE NORTH TO SOUTH, TO EAST AND THE WEST, TO POUR INTO THE CITY OF EAST POINT, TO MAKE IT A BEACON LIGHT IN A DARK AND WEARY LAND. AND DEAR GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO LET COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS FLOW, FLOW IN THIS MEETING FLOW THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND DEAR GOD, WE ARE SO THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE THIS CITY AND ALL CITIES IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. IT IS IN THE MATCHLESS NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. AS WE PRAY THIS INTERFAITH PRAYER THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD SAID, AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. TONIGHT WE HAVE THE SERGEANT OF

[ V. ANNOUNCEMENT OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS- Capt. Robinson]

SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. I'M SORRY. YES. OKAY. GOOD EVENING.

[VI. APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA: ]

YES. OKAY. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAD ANOTHER REQUEST FOR A REPORT ON THE FACADE GRANT.

AND SO THAT ALSO WILL NEED TO ADD THAT TO THE. WE'LL GO TO THAT DURING THE PRESENTATION SECTION. IS THAT OKAY, COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE AT THIS POINT? YES. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILMAN ATKINS, YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ITEM NUMBER 30, WHICH IS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR FROM THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT. IN THAT AMOUNT OF

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[VIII. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES: ]

[X. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THE SPEAKER MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ONLY ONCE DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA, SPEAKER SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES IN THEIR SPEAKERS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEIR ADDRESS PRIOR TO SPEAKING. QUESTIONS FROM THE SPEAKER MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. EASTPOINTE RESIDENTS HAVE THE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPEAKERS. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NOT MORE THAN 60 MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING SECTION OF THE AGENDA. SPEAKERS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICERS. SPEAKERS SHALL OBSERVE ALL RULES AND DECORUM. NO DEBATE, DISRESPECT OR OBSCENITY SHALL BE TOLERATED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL RULE ANY SUCH INDIVIDUALS OUT OF ORDER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE

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SO I'LL HAND THOSE OVER TO WHOEVER I CAN HAND THOSE OVER TO. BUT AT THIS POINT, I'D JUST LIKE TO READ THE PETITION. AS IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT EXPANDS ITS DETENTION INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT GEORGIA, WE HAVE SEEN ALARMING DISREGARD FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THEIR COMMUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY IN SOCIAL CIRCLE AND OAKWOOD, TO PROTECT THE RESPECTIVE JURISDICTIONS FROM ICE AND POSITION. HALL COUNTY, MAPLETON AND SOUTH FULTON HAVE ALL TAKEN PREVENTATIVE MEASURES IN THE FORM OF MORATORIUMS ON ICE FACILITIES. WE BELIEVE THAT EASTPOINTE SHOULD JOIN THEM. WE, THE UNDERSIGNED RESIDENTS, URGE EASTPOINTE LAWMAKERS TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON THE ACQUISITION, RENOVATION, EXPANSION AND OPERATION OF WAREHOUSES OR OTHER FACILITIES WITHIN EASTPOINTE FOR IMMIGRATIONS AND CUSTOMS AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT DETENTION FACILITIES. AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO EXTEND OUR PROVERBIAL HAND IN COLLABORATION WITH YOU ALL. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WANTED, AND YOU'LL HEAR SOME MORE OF US IN UPCOMING COMMENTS. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING US TODAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST ONE QUICK CORRECTION.

I THINK I READ IN THE MEETING IN THE NOT FOR YOU, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS COUNCIL. PLEASE SHARE YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY THROUGH THE CHAIR THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE ANGELA SAXTON. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ANGELA SAXTON. I LIVE AT 209 HIGHWOOD LANE. I ACTUALLY LIVE IN WARD D. I CAME HERE TODAY BECAUSE I'M USUALLY THE BEHIND THE SCENES PERSON ORGANIZER AT HEART. I DO EVERYTHING FROM THE FRINGES OFF TO THE LEFT, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS. GOVERNANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY THING. I BELIEVE WE CAN DO ANYTHING IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COLLABORATE AND HAVE GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND IT BOTHERS ME, IT WORRIES ME SPECIFICALLY WITH THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF HOW THINGS KIND OF PLAY OUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT GOOD GOVERNANCE, GOOD GOVERNANCE, I'M TALKING ABOUT LEADERSHIP, RIGHT? I'M TALKING ABOUT DECORUM, TRANSPARENCY, THE ABILITY TO BE IN CONVERSATION AND RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE, AND GETTING BEYOND THAT AND ACTUALLY GETTING STUFF DONE RIGHT. WE HAVE A CITY BUDGET THAT'S RIDICULOUSLY NOT PASSED.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. WHICH THEN BRINGS US TO THIS PLACE. WHERE IS THE COUNCIL CAPABLE OF GOVERNING THE CITY? IF GOVERNANCE PRACTICES ARE NOT LIVED OUT IN A WAY THAT I THINK EVERYBODY CAN BE HAPPY AND FEEL LIKE THINGS CAN ACTUALLY GET DONE RIGHT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE LONG, BUT I WANT TO KNOW FROM THE COUNCIL IF THERE IS ANY PROTOCOLS, ANYTHING THAT'S

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MY NAME IS TONY DERUBEIS AND I RESIDE AT 3171 EAST POINT STREET. I'VE BEEN IN EASTPOINTE RESIDENT FOR OVER 15 YEARS SINCE JUNE 1ST. THE FOLLOWING PHRASE HAS BEEN SPOKEN AT LEAST FIVE TIMES ON THIS DAIS FOR ALL TO HEAR. QUOTE, I WILL NOT BE COMPLICIT IN ILLEGAL OR UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR SPOKEN VERBATIM THE SAME WORDS EVERY TIME, LIKE A ROBOT. THIS IS A SIMPLE SENTENCE, METICULOUSLY CONSTRUCTED AS IF BY A LAWYER, JUST VAGUE ENOUGH SO IT CANNOT BE ATTACKED. A SENTENCE THAT MAY HAVE MULTIPLE MEANINGS FOR THOSE WHO LISTEN. IT CAN MEAN THAT I AM SITTING AMONG PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS WHO ARE COMMITTING THIS BEHAVIOR, AND I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE. IT CAN ALSO MEAN THAT IF I SEE THIS BEHAVIOR IN THE FUTURE, I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE AS A CITIZEN OF EASTPOINTE. WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THE PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN ILLEGAL AND UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR, AND THIS PERSON IS DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM ALL OF YOU WITHOUT THE CLARITY AND EXPLICIT ACCUSATIONS. THAT IS ALL I CAN ASSUME. AND THIS IS WHAT OTHER CITIZENS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH ALSO HEAR. AT THE 817 COUNCIL MEETING, A FELLOW CITIZEN SPOKE OF WORDS HAVING CONSEQUENCES. THESE ARE JUST SUCH WORDS. YOU ARE ALL ASKING FOR AUDITS TO BE COMPLETED, SO WE CAN HURRY UP AND ASK CREDITORS FOR BOND RATINGS AND ADDITIONAL MONIES, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THESE INSINUATIONS OF ILLEGAL AND UNETHICAL BEHAVIORS ARE BEING TOSSED ABOUT. AT ALMOST EVERY MEETING OF THIS BODY, THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN PLACED ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE, AND THE NEWS IS BEING BROADCAST ACROSS ATLANTA BEFORE ANY INVESTIGATION FINDINGS HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED. CONGRATULATIONS ON ANOTHER PUBLICITY NIGHTMARE FOR THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE. SO LET'S HURRY UP AND GET THESE AUDIT RESULTS SO WE CAN ASK FOR MORE MONEY. THERE WAS ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAD SUCH A WAY WITH THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, AND IN HIS WORK KNOWN AS HAMLET IN ACT THREE, SCENE TWO, HE WRITES, THE LADY DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH. METHINKS THIS BEHAVIOR IS VERY REMINISCENT OF OUR NATIONAL POLITICS, WHERE A PERSON CAN REPEATEDLY SPEAK INTO A MICROPHONE WITH NO CHALLENGES, NO REPERCUSSIONS, AND HOPE THAT THROUGH SHEER VOLUME, THE CONSTITUENTS WILL BEGIN TO BELIEVE WHAT IS BEING SAID. AS A RETIRED ENGINEER, I'VE BEEN RESISTING THE URGE TO JOIN THE AI REVOLUTION, BUT THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS BODY HAS FORCED ME TO TAKE UP A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHATGPT. I HAVE RUN THE 2023 AUDIT THROUGH A SERIES OF MY QUESTIONS AND THE ANSWERS I GET, AND MOSTLY I AGREE WITH ARE THIS IS NOT TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL. THE AUDIT CAN TELL US WHAT THE GENERAL FUND REPORTS IS CASH, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL US WHAT MATCHES IN THE BANK ACCOUNTS.

IT SAYS. I AGREE THIS AGREES WITH EASTPOINTE POLICY, BUT. AND WITH A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT. THAT'S ALL FROM CHATGPT. THE PROBLEM THE CITY FACES ARE NOT INCOMPLETE AUDITS OR A CORRUPT CITY MANAGER OR EVEN A CORRUPT CITY COUNCIL. THEY ARE A FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED SYSTEM OF ACCOUNTING AND FINANCES THAT NOT ONLY ALLOWS FOR ERRORS, BUT SEEMS TO BE BUILT FOR EXPLOITATION. IS ANYONE ON COUNCIL AWARE THAT AS THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2026, THE CITY IS MAINTAINING 16 DIFFERENT BANK ACCOUNTS? AND SINCE 2020, THERE HAVE BEEN A TOTAL OF AT LEAST 30 DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS THAT SEEM TO COME AND GO. YOU CAN BE ASSURED WHEN I'VE COMPLETED THE ANALYSIS OF

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THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO MINUTES REMAINING. MY SECOND ISSUE, AS I HAVE STATED NUMEROUS TIMES IN FRONT OF THIS BODY, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS NOMINATED ME TO THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF 2025. IT TOOK UNTIL MAY OF 2026 FOR THE REST OF COUNCIL TO SUBMIT ENOUGH NOMINATIONS TO BEGIN MEETINGS. ON MAY 22ND, THE ELECTRICAL DIRECTOR REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND, IMMEDIATELY UPON TRYING TO SET UP AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING, WAS SHOT DOWN BY A NEWLY APPOINTED MEMBER. FAST FORWARD TO AUGUST 3RD. THE ELECTRICAL DIRECTOR AGAIN TRIED TO CONVENE THE SAME INTRODUCTORY MEETING AND WAS AGAIN SHOT DOWN ON AUGUST 21ST.

MAYOR, I PERSONALLY REACHED OUT TO YOU TO GET THIS BALL ROLLING. I REFERRED YOU TO ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION 41-108 OF THE CITY CODE, WHICH EXPLICITLY STATES THE COMMISSION IS ESTABLISHED. IT SPELLS OUT THE MEMBERSHIP, THEIR POWERS AND DUTIES AND SPECIFY CITY RESOURCES TO ASSIST US. ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO CONVENE WAS MADE ON 823, WHICH ALSO FAILED. HERE WE ARE NOW, ONE FULL QUARTER INTO FISCAL YEAR 2027, AND WE STILL DO NOT HAVE A FUNCTIONAL UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION AS WE WAIT FOR A MOTION FROM ON HIGH TO BLESS THIS GROUP, WHY ARE WE AFRAID OF GIVING LEGAL ADVICE TO THE UTILITIES OVER 18 MONTHS TO GET A SIMPLE NINE PERSON COMMISSION OFF THE GROUND? ELECTRICAL RATES ARE STILL UP IN THE AIR. NEW RATES WERE ANNOUNCED AND THEN REPEALED. SANITATION ROUTE CHANGES WERE ANNOUNCED AND THEN DELAYED.

WATER AND SANITATION DEPARTMENTS ARE HEMORRHAGING MONEY, SOME WITH POTENTIALLY NO RESERVES. YOU ALL THROW AROUND THE WORD ACCOUNTABILITY. WHAT IS YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CITIZENS OF EASTPOINTE? TO HAVE A BODY TO HELP OUR STRUGGLING UTILITIES CREATE A BETTER IMAGE.

THIS IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE DYSFUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT. I CAN ONLY HOPE OUR SMALL LITTLE COMMISSION WILL PERFORM BETTER, BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS CITY LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THE CHANCES OF THIS ARE SLIM. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE SHANNON HICKS.

HELLO. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SHANE HICKS. I AM A RESIDENT OF WARD C OWNED PROPERTY IN EASTPOINTE, PROBABLY SINCE MY EARLY 20S, AND MOVED AWAY AND RETURNED. SO I'M BACK HERE. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS OUR CITY MANAGEMENT. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I LISTEN TO COMMENTS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE PODIUM.

AND I DO THINK THAT AS RESIDENTS, WE ARE DIVIDED. I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COUNCIL IS PROBABLY DIVIDED BECAUSE WE ARE WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS, AND THAT'S OKAY, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER, WHICH WE SEE IN OUR LEADERSHIP HERE. I WANT TO REFLECT ON A FEW THINGS. YOU KNOW, MY PROFESSION IS A IS I'M A CPA, I PRACTICE AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WHEN I SEE A THREE YEAR AUDIT, THREE YEARS OF DEFICIENCY IN AUDIT, WHICH WILL IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO GET FUNDING FROM THE STATE, WHICH MEANS THAT TAX BURDEN WILL SHIFT TO US, THE RESIDENTS. RIGHT. I HAVE CONCERNS, AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW THIS CITY IS RUN BACK, SINCE I WANT TO SAY THE 90S, THE 80S, WHENEVER IT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE MAYOR TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE CITY MANAGEMENT, I THINK THAT WAS A MORE PROBABLY DIRECT STRUCTURE. AND I THINK AS RESIDENTS, WE SHOULD PROBABLY DEMAND THAT THAT STRUCTURE BE PUT BACK IN PLACE WHERE OUR MAYOR HAS RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE THE CITY MANAGER AND NOT EIGHT DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BECAUSE I COULD NOT FUNCTION AND DO MY JOB WELL WITH EIGHT BOSSES WHO ARE ALL ON MAYBE EIGHT OR MAYBE 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT PAGES. SO I THINK IT IS KIND OF SET UP TO FAIL THE WAY THE ROLE IS STRUCTURED. AND I, I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO REVISIT AND THINK ABOUT MAYBE CHANGING THAT BACK TO WHERE THE MAYOR HAS RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE THE CITY MANAGER. NOW THE NEWS IS HERE AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT OUR CITY AND DOESN'T MAKE ME PROUD. DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK OF YOU GUYS TONIGHT, I WILL ASK THAT YOU VOTE FOR THE GBI TO COME IN AND INVESTIGATE. AND THAT'S NOT. THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT. IF THERE'S NOTHING TO BE FOUND, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE FOUND, RIGHT? NO. THEY GO AWAY, THEY

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OKAY, SARA. SARA. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. UP NEXT, WE HAVE JACKIE SLAUGHTER, AND SHE HAD TIME GIVEN TO HER BY SHARON LOVETT. SO SHE'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE COMING UP. AND JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS SO SOMEONE CAN HEAR YOU. AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN. AND I'M NOT HARD OF HEARING, BUT WHEN YOU'RE WHISPERING IN THE MIC. CAN'T NOBODY HEAR NOTHING? YES, MA'AM. I WAS JUST GIVING A FRIENDLY REMINDER. I'M UP HERE WITH TWO THINGS. FIRST, SLAUGHTER. I'M SORRY. THIS ONE FRIENDLY REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC THAT WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU START TO SPEAK. I KNOW SOME SPEAKERS HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE. WHEN THEY COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU GIVE YOU THAT NOW. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JACKIE SLAUGHTER. Y'ALL CAN LEAVE THAT ALONE. IT'S JACKIE SLAUGHTER 3652, COMMON CIRCLE, EAST POINT, GEORGIA. I'VE BEEN IN EAST POINT SINCE 1976, AND THIS IS THE WORST SHAPE I'VE SEEN EAST POINT IN. I MOVED TO EAST POINT BECAUSE I WAS FAMILIAR WITH EAST POINT. WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH THE CITY OF ATLANTA POLICE, I BOUGHT DRUGS IN EAST POINT. I'M GONNA PUT IT THAT WAY FOR DEA EAST POINT, COLLEGE PARK, SOUTH FULTON AND ALL OF THEM. THAT'S HOW I BECAME FAMILIAR WITH EAST POINT. THAT'S WHAT MADE ME MOVE TO EAST POINT. THE GUY THAT WORKED AT THE STATE CAPITOL KNEW I WAS LOOKING FOR A HOUSE. HE TOLD ME I GOT A HOUSE IN EAST POINT.

YOU CAN MOVE IN THAT, I SAID, BECAUSE I'M GETTING READY TO RETIRE. OKAY. WHAT IT LOOK LIKE? IT WAS MULBERRY RIGHT OFF OF COLLEGE. THE THIRD HOUSE ON THE RIGHT I LIVED AT IN 91. AND THEN I MOVED TO THIS SIDE AFTER I HAD MY ANEURYSM. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, Y'ALL? AND THIS MANAGER, AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT JUST LIKE THAT. GET AWAY WITH STEALING LIKE I TOLD YOU. AND YOU ASK ME, HOW DID I KNOW? I KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS CITY THAN Y'ALL DO. WHY I GET NOTES LEFT ON MY DOOR EVERY DAY AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK. I KNEW THE MANAGER GAVE EVERYBODY AN INCREASE IN THIS BUDGET WITHOUT CHILD APPROVAL, BUT THEN HE WANT TO GO UP ON UTILITY BILLS, AND THEN HE WANT TO SAY, WELL, THEY DESERVE. DO YOU REALIZE LOOK AT THE CITY OF ATLANTA. THEY GOT 4 MILLION PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVICE, AND WE GOT 38,000. THIS THEY MAKING MORE THAN THE CITY OF ATLANTA DEPARTMENT IS THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE. DO THAT MAKE SENSE TO ANYBODY IN HERE 38,000 AND THEY GOT 4 MILLION. BUT WE GOT DEPARTMENT HEADS. EVERY ONE OF THEM IS MAKING FROM 9 TO $5000 A YEAR TO 141,000. AND THEY SERVICING NOBODY. A PERFECT EXAMPLE, SANITATION CHANGE MY GARBAGE DAY. DID HE NOTIFY EVERYBODY IN C THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE CHANGED ON MONDAY? NO. LOTS OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT. I KNEW IT BECAUSE I'M NOSY AND I ASKED QUESTION, BUT AIN'T NOBODY ELSE KNOW WHAT N C. AND THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE. WHY IS HE CHANGING? WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE WAY IT WAS PICKING IT UP ON THURSDAY FOR PEOPLE'S N C? WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? THEN HE SAID, WE GOING TO GET THESE LITTLE KIDS TO GO IN THE BACK YARD TO PICK UP WHO BACKYARD ON MY STREET. YOU WON'T BE GOING IN NO BACKYARD CUZ EVERYONE GOT A FENCE AND THAT MEANS STAY OUT. WE ARE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT ROLLING INTO THE STREET. WELL, IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT. I'M A FULL FLEDGED SENIOR. I'M 80 YEARS OLD AND PROUD OF IT AND I CAN ROLL MINE TO THE FRONT IF I DON'T. I KNOW HOW TO ASK MY SON OR MY GRANDDAUGHTER OR SOMEBODY TO COME OVER AND MOVE IT. THERE'S SOME SENIORS THAT DON'T. I DEAL WITH SENIORS. EVERY MONDAY AND TUESDAY. I DELIVER MEALS TO THEM. THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH NOTHING THAT'S GOING ON HERE IN EAST POINT BECAUSE OF THE FACT YOU WANT TO GO UP ON EVERYTHING SO THE MANAGER CAN STEAL MORE MONEY. WHAT'S WRONG WITH WHAT WE GOT THIS SALARY. HOW MANY OF

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YOU BETTER BE GLAD. THE GUY THAT I WAS TAKING CARE OF DIED, BECAUSE IF HE'D HAVE BEEN THERE, I'D HAVE BEEN SUING Y'ALL TODAY. AND I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. Y'ALL NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING HE DO. Y'ALL DON'T EVEN KNOW. HE TELL PEOPLE I DON'T WORK IN THE DAYTIME. I WORK AT NIGHT. WHAT IS HE DOING AT NIGHT? WHY IS HE NOT HERE TODAY? WELL, I KNOW WHY HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT WHY DON'T HE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY TO OTHER COUNCIL MEETINGS? HE'S NOT SERVING US. BUT Y'ALL AIN'T GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR HIM. CUZ I TELL Y'ALL RIGHT NOW, I DELIVER MEALS ON WHEELS ON MONDAY ALL OVER EASTPOINTE AND NOBODY IS HAPPY. NOBODY. AND THEY DON'T GET TOGETHER. IF YOU DON'T MAKE SOME CHANGES, THEY GOING TO GET TOGETHER. Y'ALL GOING TO BE SITTING OUT THERE LIKE I AM, BUT I SIT OUT THERE BECAUSE I WANT TO, BECAUSE I WAS TOO OLD TO KEEP SITTING UP THERE AND GOING THROUGH THERE. I KNEW IT WASN'T A PART TIME JOB WHEN I TOOK IT. I WORKED TWO JOBS. I WAS WORKING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HR BLACK, AND THEN COMING HERE IN THE AFTERNOON. IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, GET OFF. BUT Y'ALL SERIOUSLY NEED TO THINK OF WHAT Y'ALL DOING TO THE CITIZEN INCREASE. BUT HE GOING TO GIVE ALL THIS MONEY. COMPARED TO THE CITY OF ATLANTA UTILITY WHO WENT TO THE UTILITY WHO GO TO ME AND FIND OUT HOW ME EGG WORK? NOBODY. YOU NEED TO DO THAT TO SIT DOWN WITH ME AS THE GUY AND ME LIVE IN COLLEGE PARK. HE'LL COME TO YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE UTILITY AND THE WHOLESALE RATE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. NEXT UP WE HAVE SARAH. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY SARAH P, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MESS UP YOUR NAME, SARAH PERRY. YES. OKAY. AND SHE ALSO HAD TIME GIVEN TO HER BY DONALD DIXON. SO YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. HI, I'M SARAH PERRY, I LIVE AT 1795 THOMPSON AVENUE. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS TODAY. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM AND I SEE SO MANY FAMILIAR FACES. I'M HERE ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THE THE OUR REQUEST FOR A MORATORIUM ON ANY NEW DHS ICE FACILITIES IN THE CITY LIMITS OF EASTPOINTE, SIMILAR TO MORATORIUMS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED BY THE CITY OF MABLETON AND THE CITY OF SOUTH FULTON. WHEN WE WERE CANVASING FOR THIS PETITION, WE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IS. IS ICE OPENING A FACILITY IN EASTPOINTE? NO, NO. SO I'M KIND OF HERE TO GROUND THIS QUESTION IN THIS CONVERSATION IN THE HERE AND NOW. SO WHY NOW? WHY LOCAL? I MEAN, YOU MIGHT SAY THIS IS A FEDERAL OPERATION. SO WHAT CAN WE DO ON A CITY COUNCIL LEVEL TO TO ADDRESS THIS, I'LL TELL YOU NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO EVALUATE RISK BECAUSE NOW IS BEFORE RISK IS INCURRED HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF WHAT AGENCY OPERATES A FACILITY, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY OFFER PROVIDES THE ROADS, THE WATER, THE SEWER AND THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE THAT MAKE THE FACILITY POSSIBLE. AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE A RECENT GEORGIA PRECEDENT THAT SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNORE, THAT BEING SOCIAL CIRCLES. SO IN SOCIAL CIRCLE, THE DHS PROPOSED CONVERTING A WAREHOUSE, WHICH WE HAVE PLENTY OF IN THE CITY, INTO AN ICE DETENTION MEGA CENTER CAPABLE OF HOLDING UP TO 10,000 DETAINEES IN 2.5000 STAFF, TRIPLING THE POPULATION OF SOCIAL CIRCLE. CITY OFFICIALS WARNED THAT THEIR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE COULDN'T SUPPORT A FACILITY OF THAT SCALE, AND THE CITY ULTIMATELY SUED ICE AND DHS, ALLEGING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD GONE FORWARD WITHOUT REQUIRING

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BUT IT'S BECOME APPARENT TO MANY OF US THAT YOU ARE HIGHLY EDUCATED AND QUITE CAPABLE OF DOING THE JOB. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE HAS BEEN A CLEAR AGENDA TO TARGET MR. JONES, THE CITY MANAGER, AND HIGHLIGHT HIS INABILITY TO DO THIS JOB. WE MET WITH HIM WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK HE BECAME THE CITY MANAGER OF EASTPOINTE. WE ASKED TWO THINGS OF THIS MANAGER, AND HE'S ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THOSE. ADDITIONALLY, HE'S OVER COMMUNICATION WITHIN THE CITY WITH RESIDENTS. IT'S NOT PERFECT YET, BUT AT LEAST IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY. IN MARCH, WE ATTENDED HIS FIRST PRELIMINARY VIEW OF THE WISH LIST BUDGET THAT HE HOSTED ON NORMAN BERRY. THAT OPEN HOUSE BUDGET WAS HELD FOR THE RESIDENTS TO INFORM US, AS WELL AS TO BE INFORMED BY THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS, CHIEFS AND DIRECTORS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE ONLY SAW TWO OF YOU. IT WASN'T VERY WELL ATTENDED AND CERTAINLY THOSE WHO BROUGHT THE CLAIMS BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WERE NOT THERE EITHER, AS IS CUSTOMARY OF ANY CFO AND CEO, HE'S ORDERED THE COMPLETION OF OPEN AUDITS OF BOOKS IN

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BASED A LOT OF OUR BELIEFS ON OUR LOYALTY TO OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AS OPPOSED TO FACTS, PULLING RECORDS AND PROPERLY INTERPRETING THOSE RECORDS WITHOUT BIAS IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING. YOU GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTERPRET AND TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS FACT FROM FICTION. SO BACK TO SOME MORE QUESTIONS. IS REMOVING THE CITY MANAGER YOUR GOAL? IF IT IS, ARE YOUR REASONS BASED ON LACK OF PERFORMANCE OR ETHICS, OR IS IT A VENDETTA OF SOME KIND? BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S COMING OFF A NEED TO DO ANOTHER NEPOTISM HIRE OR A NEED TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO? BE CLEAR ABOUT IT. BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. CAN YOU BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF AND TRANSPARENT WITH US AS RESIDENTS? DO YOU THINK THIS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS. AS A WHOLE VOTED FOR? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR OR REMEMBERED FOR AS A MAYOR OR A CITY COUNCIL PERSON? WE'RE TIRED OF BEING VIEWED BY MILLIONS ON THE NEWS FOR NEGATIVE ACTIONS. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO FIND YOUR INDIVIDUAL VOICE. DON'T ALLOW ONE APPLE OR ONE GROUP WITH SOME SPECIAL INTEREST TO DISTRACT YOU FROM DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS RESIDENTS, IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR WARD DIVISION AMONG YOU, MIMICS THAT WHICH IS HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON, DC. THERE ARE REAL PROBLEMS IN THIS CITY THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. EASTPOINTE COULD BE AND SHOULD BE BETTER. WE ALL DESERVE BETTER. DON'T TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THAT STAR.

LET'S POSITIVE POSITIVELY KEEP EASTPOINTE MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE SYLVIA.

DID I PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME CORRECT? SYLVIA ARIAS. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. HI. CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. MY NAME IS SYLVIA. I LIVE AT 1378 EAST FOREST AVE. I AM A VERY PROUD RESIDENT OF EASTPOINTE. I LOVE I LOVE LIVING IN THE CITY. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN COSTA RICA THOUGH, AND TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO I MOVED TO THE UNITED STATES TO WORK AND EARN SOME MONEY WITH THE HOPE THAT ONE DAY I CAN MOVE HOME AND I CAN BUY SOME LAND. AS IS THE DREAM OF MANY PEOPLE WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY. I AM HERE LEGALLY BECAUSE MY MOTHER, WHO WAS AN IMMIGRANT TO THE UNITED STATES, HAS CITIZENSHIP. SO THEREFORE I HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP. LAST FRIDAY, MY FELLOW COSTA RICAN, CARLOS JOSUE MARTINA, JUST A FEW YEARS OLDER THAN ME, DIED

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SORRY. I'M SORRY. REAL QUICK. YOU DO HAVE AN EXTRA THREE MINUTES. YES. THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY DON VEGAN. YES, YES. OKAY. OKAY. I SAW THREE MINUTES. YEAH, I JUST WANT OKAY. THANK YOU. WANT TO SAY THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER EXPRESSED UPON HEARING OUR DEMANDS TO PASS A MORATORIUM ON DETENTION CENTERS, SAYING THAT THIS MEASURE MIGHT ACTUALLY DRAW MORE NEGATIVE ATTENTION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I TRULY HOPE THAT YOUR DESIRES TO BE LEADERS FOR THE EASTPOINTE COMMUNITY IS ROOTED IN YOUR LOVE AND CARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT, AND NOT THE DESIRE TO TAKE THE SAFEST PATH.

BEING AN INSPIRING AND BOLD LEADER REQUIRES FOR YOU TO STAND ON YOUR VALUES AND TRULY REPRESENT THE DEAF, THE DESIRES AND INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE OF EASTPOINTE. ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE PARALYZED BY SOME HYPOTHETICAL FEAR DOES NOT SHOW TRUE LEADERSHIP. AND FRANKLY, I WOULD QUESTION IF YOU HAVE THE CHARACTER TO HOLD THIS ROLE. HOWEVER, UPON HEARING THAT THE EASTPOINTE CITY COUNCIL HAS PASSED A MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS, WHICH IS ALSO A SUBJECT ON TODAY'S AGENDA. DESPITE THAT BEING THE SAME REASON WHY SOME CITY GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN SUED BY GIANT TECH COMPANIES. MAKES ME THINK THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL IS BRAVE ENOUGH TO TAKE ACTION, EVEN IF THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES, BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WE WILL ALSO BACK YOU, AND YOU WILL KNOW THAT YOU DID YOUR JOB IN THE BRAVEST AND MOST ETHICAL WAY. AS AUDRE LORDE SAID, YOUR SILENCE WILL NOT PROTECT YOU. SO I AM ASKING YOU TODAY, CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, TO PLEASE BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, PASS A MORATORIUM ON DETENTION CENTERS AND ALL OTHER ICE FACILITIES YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE WATCHING.

THANK YOU. UP NEXT, WE HAVE KWESI I. OH, AND MY APOLOGIES IF I SAID YOUR NAME ON AIR. MY NAME IS KWESI OH, AND I'M TOM. I'M A RESIDENT OF EASTPOINTE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. RECENT OWNER OF PROPERTY AT 1749 WEST HAMILTON. HONESTLY, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN SOME OF MY TIME TO SOMEBODY WITH A LITTLE MORE PREVALENT ISSUES LIKE I'M HEARING FROM YOU GUYS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF TIES INTO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, I THINK EASTPOINTE ATTRACTED A

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[XI. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL]

AND IT IS A CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE EDUCATION ON BRA FITTING, HEALTH AWARENESS AND HYGIENE. PLEASE VISIT THE UPLIFTING OUR GIRLS.COM WEBSITE TO REGISTER FOR THIS EVENT.

IT'S GOING TO BE HELD ON NORMAN BERRY DRIVE AT THE CITY HALL ANNEX. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT REGARDING THE ICE FACILITIES A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL AND I'LL JUST USE HIS FIRST. I'LL USE HIS FIRST NAME, BUT HE DID SHARE AN ORDINANCE WITH COUNCIL. HIS FIRST NAME IS BRIAN, BUT A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ORDINANCE I WROTE IT DOWN HERE. WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THESE FACILITIES. I'VE ALSO DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THEM AND HOW OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE ADDRESSED THE REGULATORY CONCERNS. SO SHE GAVE THE OKAY SEVERAL WEEKS AGO THAT IF THIS WAS A DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO HAVE IT PLACED ON THE AGENDA. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY WIGGINS, TO COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION ADDRESSING ICE FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE, INCLUDING APPROPRIATE REGULATIONS, ZONING AND LAND USE PROVISIONS FOR OUR COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT

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MORATORIUMS TYPICALLY ARE TEMPORARY IN NATURE. I LOVE FOR US TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE IT PERMANENT AND WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. SO I'LL SAY MY SECOND STANCE. YES. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE THE YEAH, MY SECOND STANCE, SECOND STANCE.

AND IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THAT? YEAH. JUST TO REITERATE, WE WOULD HAVE CITY ATTORNEY COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A MAYOR ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE. GO AHEAD. STATE YOUR MOTION ONE MORE TIME, COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. THAT THE ADD ON WOULD BE TO ALSO EXPLORE AN OPPORTUNITY OR EXPLORE A PERMANENT SOLUTION. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILWOMAN ATKINS. YES. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I KNOW THAT THERE'S I'VE HEARD TWO WORDS AS IT RELATES TO THE LEGISLATION REGARDING THIS. ONE IS A RESOLUTION AND ONE IS AN ORDINANCE. A RESOLUTION DOESN'T REALLY CARRY THE WEIGHT OF LAW.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE INTENT IS SOMETHING THAT IS MORE PERMANENT, WHICH WILL BE AN ORDINANCE. SO PERHAPS THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE LEGISLATION TO ENACT PERMANENT CONDITIONS REGARDING DETENTION CENTERS. AND THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN COME BACK WITH THAT APPROPRIATE LEGISLATION FOR US. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. OH, NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL, WE HAVE A MOTION TO PASS. MADAM MAYOR, ONE THING YOU YOU MAY WANT TO DO. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES AND YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY THAN SOME COUNCILS DO.

I THINK YOU PROBABLY NEED TO SUSPEND THE RULES, AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD THIS ITEM, AND THEN VOTE ON IT. OKAY. TONIGHT WE WANT TO SUSPEND THE RULES FOR THE AGENDA TO ADD THE ITEM.

SO I BELIEVE MOTION CAN BE MADE. THE MOTION. YEAH. I MOTION CAN BE MADE AT ANY TIME. CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. MADAM MAYOR. YES. CAN I JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUES? THERE ARE TIME CERTAIN ON WHEN YOU WANT THIS TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE IT ADDED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA, BUT TO GET THE LEGISLATION DRAFTED SO THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW, WHEN WE WERE INITIALLY CONTACTED BY BRIAN, HE PROVIDED THE LEGISLATION TO US, AND I SHARED IT WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY. IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER RESEARCH THAT I FOUND. SO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER A LITTLE TIME. WE CAN PUT IT ON THE WORK SESSION FOR OCTOBER. BUT YEAH, TO COME BACK BY THE OCTOBER 1212 WORK SESSION MEETING. BUT SHE HAS THE DOCUMENTS AND THE LAYOUT ALREADY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT AND JUST COMPARING WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN DOING. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO FOR THE MOTION WE HAVE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH LEGISLATION REGARDING THE DATA CENTERS AND EASTPOINTE. I, THE ICE DETENTION FACILITY IN EASTPOINTE. ALL RIGHT. YES. IS THAT CLEAR? DO I NEED TO RESTATE THAT AGAIN? OH, OKAY. DO WE HAVE. SO THAT'S MY SECOND STANCE. YOUR SECOND STANCE. YES. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN ATKINS, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR.

WE'RE STILL IN COUNCIL COMMENTS. YES. OH, YOU WERE NEXT. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING, YOU OKAY? WELL, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I BELIEVE I HEARD THROUGH THE LITANY OF COMMENTS TONIGHT, WHICH I'M INSPIRED BY THE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION IN COUNCIL MEETINGS, I THINK DIRECTLY REFLECTS THE ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR OF YOUR COUNCIL. YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN YOU COME CLEAR AND MAKE DEMANDS, THAT COUNCIL RESPONDS. AND I THINK THAT LAST VOTE SHOWS THAT. SO SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD FROM YOU THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING OF US IN SOME IS TO TIGHTEN UP. I HEARD SEVERAL RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT THE EXPECTATIONS FOR US

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IT'S WHY WE ARE ALL HERE AND WHY I'M HERE AND WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE. AND I DO HEAR THE CONCERN ABOUT COMMUNICATION. AND AS PART OF THE CHARTER, MY ROLE IS TO BE THE CHIEF SPOKESPERSON AND MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNICATIONS GO OUT. BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNICATIONS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET CONCERNS IN THE CITY MANAGER AND SOME THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN IN OFFICE HERE FOR NINE MONTHS, AND I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ALONGSIDE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT YOU SEE HERE. AND THE

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WHAT WAS THAT? OH, WHAT IS THAT? OKAY. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S THAT? OKAY. AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS, I'M GOING TO PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO JUST CONTINUE TO TALK JUST FOR A FEW MOMENTS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE AN AGENDA TO GET TO, BUT I AM IN IN TERMS OF THE WAY WE RUN OUR CITY AND THE RESIDENTS HERE. AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH, SO MUCH FOR COMING UP AND TALKING ABOUT THIS. BUT THE ITEMS AND THE THINGS THAT I POINTED OUT BEFORE GETTING TO THE POINT OF THE RESIDENTS AND HOW WE HANDLE THE CITIZENS HERE, THAT ALL ROLLS INTO HOW WE CAN AFFECT THE RESIDENTS AS A WHOLE, 3000 MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND SO FROM THE BUDGET TO THE WATER TO ALL AREAS OF OUR CITY, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE NOT JUST A COUNCIL WHO IS PERFECTLY CAPABLE AND HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT FOR EIGHT MONTHS THAT THEY CAN DO THE WORK. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A CITY MANAGER THAT IS SUPPOSED TO ACT ON THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, AND THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL IS VERY STRONG, VERY COMPETENT AND VERY CAPABLE OF DOING THEIR JOB. SO MY THING IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY MANAGER, I HOPE THAT THE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND OBVIOUSLY RESPECT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE. BUT IF THE INVESTIGATION COMES UP AND SHOWS THAT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT AT THE WILL OF OUR PEOPLE AND THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL, WE WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT, AND I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEETING. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. EASTPOINTE, THE COUNCIL AND MYSELF. WE REALLY LOVE YOU GUYS FOR SHOWING UP. SO WE'LL JUST MOVE ON AT THIS POINT. AND ONE MORE THING, IF YOU'VE GOTTEN A REMINDER FOR THE HOA EMAIL, IF YOU ARE A LEADER OF YOUR COMMUNITY IN THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, THERE'S BEEN AN EMAIL THAT WENT OUT ABOUT THE HOA. AND IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT, PLEASE SIGN UP. AND THAT IS ONE OF MY REMINDERS. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? YES. THANK YOU. AMEN. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILWOMAN. OH, I'M SORRY, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? THANK YOU. NO, NO COMMITTEE REPORTS AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR? YES, MA'AM. I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION FOR THE

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AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'VE DONE OUR TASK. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BRING BACK WHATEVER REVISIONS WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND ALLOW COUNCIL TO REVIEW THOSE, MOVE THEM FORWARD FOR WHATEVER NEXT STEPS THERE ARE? YEAH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM LAST MEETING. I KNOW WE IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK UP ON I GUESS BEFORE IF WE HAD ANY CONCERNS, I THINK LAST MEETING WAS SUPPOSED TO. I GUESS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REVISIONS MADE THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL DISCUSSION, BUT IF NONE OTHER THE COMMITTEE

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YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT ATKINS. YES, MADAM MAYOR, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR COMMITTEE REPORTS, WE DID BEFORE COMMITTEE REPORTS, THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM, PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE DID AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD THE FACADE GRANT PRESENTATION TO THAT. AND SO I DON'T KNOW. WE'VE SKIPPED OVER THAT. SO DO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO HEAR THAT? BECAUSE WE DID MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT UNDER PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I THINK WE CAN I'M SORRY. I THINK WE CAN HEAR IT NOW IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'S A PART OF THE JUST WITH THOSE PEOPLE. OKAY. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. SO

[XII. PRESENTATIONS and ANNOUNCEMENTS: ]

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JASMINE CHANEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE FACADE GRANT BEFORE AND AFTERS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT LAST WORK SESSION. IN CONSIDERATION OF TIME. THERE ARE 25 AWARDED BUSINESSES, SO I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THOSE PRETTY QUICKLY.

BUT I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT LAST WORK SESSION. THAT WOULD BE THE NINE BUSINESSES THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED CONTRACT EXTENSIONS FOR. SO THIS BUSINESS ON 3165 MAIN STREET, THIS IS ONE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTRACT EXTENSION FOR IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,000, SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE THE PAINTING ON THE STREET, VISIBLE SIDES AND THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING FIXTURES. THIS BUSINESS, AT 3183 MAIN STREET, CRUSH RESTAURANT AND BAR. WE ARE REQUESTING TO EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT AND ALSO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 SO THAT THEY CAN COMPLETE THEIR REMAINING SCOPE OF WORK. THIS BUSINESS, LITTLE LINGUIST INTERNATIONAL PRESCHOOL ON 1460 EAST CLEVELAND AVENUE. THEY ARE ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT FOR AND INCREASE THEIR FUNDING TO 50 15,000 SO THAT THEY CAN COMPLETE THE MURAL AND

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THEN WE HAVE TRINITY DIALYSIS CLINIC ON 1354 CLEVELAND AVENUE. THEY ARE ONE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT DID NOT GET TO COMPLETE EVERYTHING WITHIN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK. SO WE ARE JUST GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COMPLETE THAT AS WELL. AND THE AMOUNT OF 5200. AND THEN THIS ADDITIONAL BUSINESS, THE ULTIMATE CAR WASH IN DETAIL ON 3540 NORTH DESSERT DRIVE, THEY ARE JUST HAVING THEIR CONTRACT EXTENDED AND THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THEY'RE JUST RECEIVING THE ORIGINAL AWARD AMOUNT. SO I'LL GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY.

THESE ARE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETED IN THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS ARE ALSO INCLUDED ON THIS SLIDE. SO THIS IS A BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN ON 2866 CHURCH STREET. THIS IS ANOTHER DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ON WEST CLEVELAND AVENUE. THEN WE HAVE WASHINGTON SEAFOOD MARKET ON 1765 WASHINGTON ROAD. I BELIEVE THAT IS WARD A. THIS IS THE DAY BUILDING. THEY DID WORK TO. CHAIRS CUPCAKERY HR BLOG, PYRAMID LOUNGE. THIS IS ANOTHER BUSINESS DOWNTOWN THAT COMPLETED THEIR SCOPE OF WORK ON 3123 MAIN STREET. ANOTHER BUSINESS IN WARD B, I SEE SNOW, ICY SNOWBALLS. THEN WE HAVE THE BEAUTY COMPANY WASHINGTON ROAD. THAT'S WARD A. DOZIER'S EARLY LEARNING ACADEMY ON 1876 WASHINGTON ROAD. AGAIN, THEY COMPLETED EVERYTHING IN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK. THE WORK COMPLETED IS ON THE SLIDE. ATLANTA UTILITY WORKS. THIS IS A PROPERTY ON IT, SAYS OUR MINISTRY. I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE STANTON ROAD. THIS IS ANOTHER BUSINESS IN WARD B. ANOTHER BUSINESS IN WARD B, LOUISIANA BISTRO. GENERATION IN FOCUS, ANOTHER BUSINESS. I BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE A. THEN WE HAVE WARD C, THE PLAZA ON THE LOW DRIVE. I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. OH, OKAY. THIS PLAZA ON WASHINGTON ROAD, WARD D, THIS PLAZA, THIS BUSINESS IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THAT PLAZA B THEY ALSO APPLIED FOR THE FACADE GRANT AWARD. AND SO THIS JUST GOES INTO WHAT MY AX WAS FOR THE LAST WORK SESSION. SO THOSE NINE BUSINESSES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, THE THREE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS, WHICH WOULD BE FOR THE ULTIMATE CAR WASH IN DETAIL. THE ULTIMATE CAR WASH AND DETAIL, TRINITY DIALYSIS AND. ALPHA GRAPHICS. SORRY ABOUT THE PAUSE. AND THEN THE FIVE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS, WHICH WOULD BE FOR FINCHVILLE DOZERS. EARLY LEARNING, I MEAN,

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OH, I KNOW YOU HAD A COUPLE ASK FOR TONIGHT. ARE THOSE TIME SENSITIVE? WOULD YOU WANT THOSE MOTIONS MADE TONIGHT OR. I KNOW YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT AUTHORIZING CONTRACTS AND APPROVING FUND TRANSFERS. WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? DONE. YES. IF THERE COULD BE A MOTION PASSED TO PUT THOSE BACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BECAUSE THE FUNDS DO NEED TO BE USED BY DECEMBER 31ST, AND THE PARTICIPANTS NEED TO HAVE BEEN PAID BY DECEMBER 31ST SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE THE FUNDING. SO THE SOONER WE APPROVE IT, THE SOONER THEY CAN GET STARTED. OR YES, AS SOON AS IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL, I CAN ROUTE THE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS. THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 440. I'M SORRY, $4,444.19. INNER WARD TRANSFER TO WARD B TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED WARD B FUNDING COMMITMENT. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED, THE MOTION PASSES. SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO EXECUTE THREE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS WITHIN EXISTING WARDS AMOUNTS AND FIVE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS.

SLASH AMENDMENTS WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AND AMEND THE CONTRACT SO AS TO EXTEND A CONTRACT FOR. THE CENTRAL CAFE. YES. OKAY. DIAZ, I'M SORRY. YES. FORGIVE ME. BUT THAT'S THE MOTION FOR THE ESSENCE CAFE. SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. OH, GO AHEAD FOR

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THE REQUIREMENT WAS THAT THEY DID HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE IF THE WORK THEY WERE DOING REQUIRED A PERMIT, BUT I THINK DURING THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED AS SOMETHING THAT WAS NEEDED FOR DOWNTOWN. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND HAVING COHESIVE IMPROVEMENTS TO KIND OF SYNC ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING DOWNTOWN, BUT THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED OR BROUGHT UP. BUT WE DID REQUIRE THEM TO GET PERMITS, OR AT LEAST CHECK TO SEE IF A PERMIT WAS NEEDED FOR THE WORK. YEAH. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO IT'S NOT THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ENTITY. OKAY, THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, WHICH IS ESTABLISHED IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION TEN DASH 14008. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. SO IT'S NOT THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. IT'S THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. AND THEY'RE GENERALLY TO LOOK AT THE PLANS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS, BUT THANK YOU. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE PROCESS, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SO THAT THERE'S A PROCESS AND THERE'S A REASON FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITIZENS BE ABLE TO ENGAGE THROUGH THESE BOARDS, AUTHORITIES AND COMMISSIONS FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSES. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN MITCHELL, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? IT IS OKAY. AND THANK YOU. ONE DISCUSSION ITEM I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.

ARE YOU GOING TO GO BUSINESS BY BUSINESS OR, OR, OR APPROVE THE SUITE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MISS CHENEY OFFERED TO US? I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I KIND OF READ IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED. SO IN THE MOTION IT SAID, EXECUTE THREE CONTRACTS WITH EXISTING SET UP, SAY IN REFERENCE. MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. SHOULD I REFERENCE EACH BUSINESS OR IN THE MOTION? ARE YOU EXPENDING MONIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BUDGETED AND ALLOCATED OR IS THIS I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A TRANSFER FROM ONE WARD TO ANOTHER.

THAT'S NOT PROBLEMATIC. BUT ARE THESE MONIES THAT ARE ALREADY BUDGETED? YES, PRETTY MUCH.

IT'S JUST ALLOCATING IT TO HOLD ON ONE SECOND. SO THIS IS EXTENDING THE CONTRACT. THIS MOTION IS JUST IN THE CONTRACT ON MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED TO THEM. I WOULD DO IT IN THREE DIFFERENT MOTIONS. AS I SAW THAT ONE SLIDE THAT WAS UP. THERE WERE THREE. THEY WERE THERE WERE SOME THERE WERE FIVE ACTIONS IN ONE, THREE ACTIONS IN ANOTHER. AND THEN THE TRANSFER, I WOULD DO THOSE AS THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS. MR. PARDON ME FOR ONE SECOND. CAN YOU PUT THE SLIDE BACK UP FOR US BY ANY CHANCE? AND MR. ACTING CITY ATTORNEY, I WAS WONDERING IF THE THE THREE MOTIONS, THE THREE COUNCIL ACTION REQUESTS GO AHEAD. I WAS WONDERING IF THEY COULD BE TO COUNCILMAN HEMMINGS POINT, THE SUITE THAT ARE RECOGNIZED AS ONE, TWO AND THREE OR SO IN TOTALITY IS JUST THE TOTAL. WHAT I WOULD WHAT I RECOMMEND

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THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON NUMBER TWO. SO I, I READ IT AS IS. ARE WE JUST MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T NEED TO CLARIFY. WE COULD READ IT INTO THE RECORD LIKE THIS.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO YOU OWN ITEM NUMBER TWO. YEAH. SO I'LL JUST READ IT. SO I THINK WE'RE WAITING THE QUESTION TO BE CALLED. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE MOTION IS DIRECTED CITY MANAGER TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO EXECUTE THREE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS WITHIN EXISTING WORDS AMOUNTS AND FIVE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS EXISTING WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND AMEND THE CONTRACT.

SO IT IS THEN A CONTRACT FOR THIS DE ESSENCE CAFE. THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE HAD THE SECOND WE HAD DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. THE MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. AND LASTLY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ALLOCATE THE REMAINING $20,558.24 IN WARD A FUNDS AMONG ELIGIBLE EXISTING PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS FOR COMPLETION AND APPROVED FACADE IMPROVEMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES. SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

NO DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JASMINE. I KNOW YOU HAD A WEEK TO TURN AROUND THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS AND EVERYTHING, SO THANKS FOR MOVING SO QUICKLY ON THAT. WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I WENT AROUND TO SOME OF THOSE PLACES MYSELF, AND THAT ONE PLAZA ON HEADLAND LOOKS AMAZING. ACROSS FROM WAKEFIELD ADJACENT. I THINK THERE'S A FAMILY DOLLAR IN THAT PLAZA. I REALLY LIKE WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THAT PLAZA, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME GOOD BUSINESSES IN THERE THAT CAN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND NOW WE ARE ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. WE

[XIV. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS: ]

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ALL ITEMS AS PRINTED ON THE AGENDA FOR CONSENT. AND THE TWO THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE ITEMS NUMBER 29 AND 30 THAT WERE ADDED TO CONSENT. I MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND, HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YOU ALL REMOVED ITEM 12 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. IN THE MOTION WAS AS PRINTED. SO OCTOBER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE CLEAR THAT 12 WAS REMOVED IS GOING TO A WORK SESSION. THANK YOU. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD 12 TO THE CONSENT. NO. Y'ALL ARE 12 FROM THE CONSENT. ARE WE REMOVED AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA? YES. OKAY. SO OCTOBER WORK SESSION. OCTOBER 12TH. SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND

[XV.26. Council Approval of an Ordinance Amending Section 4-1074 of the City of East Point Code of Ordinances Regarding Overtime, Compensatory Time, and Twelve-Hour Work Schedules for Designated Police Personnel]

[XV.27. Council Discussion and Possible Action on a Resolution to Approve COLA for Class 4 and Class 5 Retirees ]

MIKE ON PLEASE. THANK YOU. HELLO MAYOR. COUNCIL. GOOD AFTERNOON.

AND WE JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ASK FOR TONIGHT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.

OKAY. NO. SO THIS IS A FOLLOW UP FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION REGARDING A RESOLUTION TO

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ALRIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MAY I TO THE PRESENTERS, PLEASE? THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. WHAT CONTINGENCY BUDGET ARE YOU REFERENCING? THAT IT WOULD COME FROM THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL IT WAS BUILT IN. THERE'S A 182,000 CONTINGENCY FUND. I CAN SEND OVER THE ACCOUNT INFORMATION AFTER THE MEETING IF I NEED TO, AND THEN THE REMAINING AMOUNT IS GOING TO COME. I'M SORRY, MR. MILLER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. OH, I'M SORRY. IN THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET, WHICH IS WHERE WE PAY THE COLA FROM, THERE'S A 182,000 CONTINGENT FUND. IT'S ACCOUNT 579021-00. AND THEN THE REMAINING FUNDS WOULD BE REALLOCATED FROM THE ACCOUNTING. AND THAT SAME DEPARTMENT. THAT NUMBER IS 521.1201. AND THAT'S JUST FOR YEAR ONE OF THE COLA. FUTURE YEARS WOULD BE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

COUNCILWOMAN CUMMINGS I MEAN, JUST FOR A LITTLE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION, YOU MENTIONED THE REMAINING FUNDS WOULD COME FROM AN ACCOUNTING ACCOUNT, RIGHT? IS THAT'S JUST THE ONLY DETAIL WE HAVE IS ARE THE FUNDS IN THAT ACCOUNT AND ACCOUNT ALLOCATED TO OTHER PLACES POTENTIALLY. I LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF THE ACCOUNT. RIGHT NOW IT'S BUDGETED WITH 312,000 THE YEAR BEFORE. IN 2025, WE ONLY USED 76,000 OF IT. LAST YEAR WE ONLY USED 198,000 OF IT.

SO IN THAT DEPARTMENT, THAT WAS THE BEST PLACE WHERE FUNDS COULD BE REALLOCATED WITHOUT AFFECTING SERVICES. GOT IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES, MR. MILLER, JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR. SO THE $182,000 THAT'S IN THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL CONTINGENCY BUDGET, THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO USE ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS. CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE WOULD WIPE OUT NON-DEPARTMENTAL CONTINGENCY DOLLARS WITH THIS APPROVAL, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. BUT HISTORICALLY WE HAVEN'T HAD TO USE THOSE FUNDS. RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. RIGHT. AND THEN WE BECAUSE WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT NEEDED FOR THIS CODE INCREASE FOR CLASS FOUR AND CLASS FIVE. WHAT IS THAT FOR? YEAR ONE IS 407,000 407,000. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN THE REMAINDER YOU WOULD THEN USE A MAJORITY A HUGE PORTION OF THE OTHER NUMBER YOU GAVE US, WHICH IS I THINK IT ENDS IN ONE, TWO, ZERO ONE. CORRECT. AND OUT OF THE $312,000. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I WAS CLEAR. THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS? COUNCILWOMAN ROGERS AND COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THE CONTINGENCY FUND. HOW HAS IT BEEN USED IN PREVIOUS YEARS? IT HASN'T BEEN USED IN RECENT YEARS. IT'S BEEN NOTHING CHARGED TO IT. SO THIS IS THE ONLY YEAR IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AND WIPE OUT THE CONTINGENCY PLAN. I MEAN I'M SORRY, THE FUNDS NOT THE PLAN. RIGHT. BUT I THINK IT'S FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. BUT YES, IT HASN'T BEEN USED IN RECENT YEARS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. NOT USED IN RECENT YEARS. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING, COUNCILWOMAN MITCHELL AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. THANK. NOW I HAVE QUESTIONS. SO HOW HOW DID WE DO THIS IN THE PAST? WHAT WERE THE WHAT WOULD THE FUNDS COME FROM FOR THE COLA

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SO NORMALLY THESE PROJECTIONS ARE I'M JUST PROJECTED JUST CURIOUS. OKAY. RIGHT. SO LIKE, LET'S SAY YEAR ONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, IT'LL BE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. COUNCILMAN ATKINS, THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME IN THIS ROUND, RIGHT? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING AND THEN COUNCILMAN ATKINS, MR. MILLER. OKAY. ONE MORE TIME. WHICH NON-DEPARTMENTAL FUND? 1599. IS THAT WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM? THAT'S OKAY. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE BUDGET BOOK THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED WITH THE $1.6 MILLION. AND I COULD BE READING THIS WRONG, BUT IF THE CONTINGENT FUND IS 100 DASH 1599-579.21, IS THAT IT? 0000. AND THE BUDGET BOOK THAT WE ADOPTED, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE. THIS IS COMING STRAIGHT FROM THE SYSTEM. I HAD TO REVIEW THE BOOK, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE NEW SYSTEM. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR, TO THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, PLEASE. YES, MADAM DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, I'M LOOKING AT THE BUDGET BOOK THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED AND APPROVED, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THE SYSTEM ITSELF AND THE BUDGET BOOK ARE NOT THE SAME DOCUMENT. HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE ADOPTED IS PRINTED IN THIS FORMAT. SO I'M TRYING TO RECONCILE WHICH NUMBERS ARE THE MOST RELIABLE AT THIS POINT AND HOW, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE LINE AND MR. MILLER JUST CONFIRMED THAT I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT LINE ITEM. I HAVE BAD VISION, BUT IT IS ZEROED OUT IN THIS BUDGET BOOK. THIS IS THE ONE WITH THE 1.6 MILLION. NO, THE ONE THEY EMAILED US. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE REVIEWS OF THE THE BUDGET, AS MR. MILLER STATED, WHAT IS WHAT'S PRINTED ONLINE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. SO THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION IS INFORMATION THAT THAT WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING WITH HIM. THAT'S NBSA. OKAY. THE COPY THAT I'M REFERRING TO IS THE ONE THAT WAS EMAILED TO COUNCIL FOR US TO TAKE THE VOTE. SO WE WERE GIVEN THE EMAIL THAT HAD TWO LINKS. IT WAS A 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET BOOK WITH THE $1.6 MILLION WATER INVESTMENT.

AND THAT'S THE DOCUMENT I HAVE IN FRONT OF. I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS. IF THE SYSTEM SAYS IT'S THERE, I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE'S A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT I BELIEVE IS A COUNCIL MEMBER I APPROVED. AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW, THOSE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IN THIS CONTINGENT FUND, THERE WAS $688,000, AND THEN IT WAS REDUCED DOWN TO 800. AND THEN BY THE TIME WE GOT TO THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED AMOUNT AND THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR THAT LINE ITEM, IT WAS $0. SO. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT THAT'S A BIG DISCREPANCY. THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES. YES. OKAY. THANK

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HOWEVER, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE DONE. AND THIS WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MR. JONES. THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE DONE UNTIL DECEMBER. I BELIEVE IT'S DECEMBER, SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AS FAR AS WHERE AT WHAT POINT WOULD THE THE LINE ITEM BE FUNDED IF IT'S NOT THERE? BUT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE MONEY IS THERE. OKAY. AND MR. MILLER, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE SHEET THAT YOU HAVE DISPLAYED HERE, PLEASE? SO THIS IS FROM THIS IS A REPORT FROM THE BUDGET THAT'S WITHIN THE SYSTEM. I KIND OF CONDENSED IT, REMOVED THE ACCOUNTS THAT DIDN'T APPLY TO THE RECLASS. BUT IF YOU LOOK IN COLUMN C, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE SHOWN AS THE APPROVED BUDGET. THE NEXT THREE COLUMNS SHOW THE ACTIVITY OVER RECENT YEARS. SO YOU'LL SEE IN THAT CONTINGENCY FUND THERE WAS NO ACTIVITY OVER RECENT YEARS.

BUT IN COLUMN D, E F, YOU SEE THE ACTIVITY THAT WAS BEING RECORDED TO THAT ACCOUNTING

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IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT THE PENSION BOARD WANTS YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER. IT'S THE HEALTH INSURANCE ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, WHICH IS THE NEXT NEXT ONE. BUT THIS ONE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS TIMING TO RESEARCH AND CONFIRM. YES. SO I GUESS IT'S JUST A BASED ON COUNCIL. IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT IS IN THE SYSTEM VERSUS WHAT WE CAN PHYSICALLY SEE, THEN WE CAN OR JUST CONFIRM IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE WE WOULD CONFIRM IT OTHER THAN. THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, BUT I WILL SAY MAYBE. ACTING CITY MANAGER, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS PUBLICLY FACING OF THE BUDGET AND FOR US AND FOR RESIDENTS MATCHES WHAT IS IN OUR SYSTEM. SO IF WE COULD GET THAT UPDATED BUDGET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WOULD BE GREAT. I YIELD, I'LL SUPPORT IT. ALL RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, GUYS. JUST REALLY QUICK. DID YOU SAY THIS NEEDED TO BE APPROVED BY OCTOBER 1ST? IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? SO THIS WHAT WE NEED TO APPROVE IS THE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE RETIREES. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION I. I THINK YOU SHOULD YOU ALL HAVE THE INFORMATION WHERE WE HAD A HISTORY OF WHAT WAS APPROVED. SO YOU HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'D LIKE TO FUND IT. OKAY. OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? SO RIGHT NOW, THE RESEARCH THAT I, I GUESS THE CONSENSUS IS WE'RE GOING TO RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS THERE. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES, COLLEAGUES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY, I YIELD. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IS THERE ANY LEGAL ISSUES THAT WOULD COME ABOUT, COME ABOUT FOR THE THE MISMATCH OR THE MOVING AROUND OF THE FUNDS FOR ANY REASON AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, FOR THIS ITEM. THERE'S A LOT IN THAT QUESTION. ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SINCE THE BUDGET, THE ITEM, THE MONEY IS THERE, BUT THE INFORMATION THAT IS PRESENTED ONLINE DOES NOT MATCH THAT INFORMATION. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ITEM IN THE DOCUMENT THAT COUNCIL PASSED. IS THERE ANY CHALLENGES IN THAT OR DOES. I'LL LET YOU ANSWER WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAY THE ITEM THAT COUNCIL PASSED, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET DOCUMENT? SO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SO THE, THE FOR THIS ITEM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT THE FUNDING IS NOT ON THE BUDGET BOOK THAT IS PUBLIC, BUT IT IS IN THE SYSTEM. SO IS THERE ANY LEGAL ISSUES REGARDING THAT? GENERALLY SPEAKING? I MEAN, THOSE NUMBERS MAY FLUCTUATE DURING THE BUDGET YEAR. SO AS LONG AS YOU ONCE YOU FIGURE IT OUT, AS LONG AS YOU FUND THAT LINE ITEM, I MEAN, YOU'LL YOU'LL BE FINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS FOR THE ACTING CITY MANAGER. IS THERE A WAY THAT WHEN WE ADD THE ITEMS TO THE AGENDA, OH, THIS IS THE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LIKE THE FUNDING SOURCE AND WHERE THE TIME AND THE, THE FUNDING SOURCE AND THE AMOUNT GOING OUT IN THE. YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS THE DIRECTIVE THAT THAT IS WHY HE WAS. MR. MILLER WAS PREPARED TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE HE WAS PULLING THE MONEY FROM. OKAY. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE ACTUAL AGENDA FOR FUNDING SOURCE? I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CLERK, BECAUSE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAY ACTUAL LIKE WE CAN PUT

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I HAVE ONE MORE. I'M SORRY. HAVE YOU COMPLETED, BRIAN? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MR. MILLER, YOU'RE THE SENIOR ACCOUNTANT, RIGHT? CHIEF ACCOUNTANT. CHIEF ACCOUNTANT. YES, FOR THE CITY. AND SO IN MY ESTIMATION, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY I'M I'M NOT SURE IF I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THIS AS AN OVERSIGHT OF FINANCE. I KNOW THAT WHEN THIS BODY DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO AMEND THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND WE ADDED SEVERAL THINGS DURING THAT PROCESS, WE DID NOT GO THROUGH AND DECIDE WHERE THE DOLLARS WOULD COME FROM. I THINK THAT A PART OF THAT, THERE WERE A OF OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US, BUT WE LEFT THOSE THINGS UP TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND SO WHEN I'M HEARING THIS, I'M THINKING THAT PERHAPS THAT WAS AN AREA WHERE SOME OF THE DOLLARS CAME FROM TO FUND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE PUT BACK IN, BUT I'M NOT SURE, BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S IT COULD HAVE PERHAPS HAPPENED IN THIS PROCESS. IT'S POSSIBLE I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE TEAM THAT WORKED ON THAT. TO GET CLARIFICATION, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GUESS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. GO AHEAD. NO, WE DO NOT HAVE A MOTION BEFORE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD. YEAH. AND THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I THINK THAT IT'S AN OVERSIGHT BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, IS THERE A CORRECT BUDGET OUT THERE SOMEWHERE IN. MADAM ACTING CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE UPDATED VERSION OF THE BUDGET AND WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED? I ALSO KNOW HOW LONG COUNCIL WORKED ON THE BUDGET. IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE. SO FOR THIS INFORMATION NOT TO BE IN THE BUDGET OR THE LINE ITEM IDENTIFIED FOR THE COLA, IT'S DEFINITELY AN OVERSIGHT AND I'M GOING TO STAND FIRM ON THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE TO MOVE DOWN TO THE MOVE FORWARD NOW. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHEN IS IT GOING TO COME BACK? OCTOBER. WHEN IS IT OCTOBER GOING TO COME BACK TO THE WORK? WHEN IS THIS ITEM GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL? CITY MANAGER ACTING YOU NEED TO VERIFY THE FUNDS FIRST. CORRECT. WE WILL WORK TO VERIFY THE FUNDS. THIS. THERE IS A BIT OF AN URGENCY WITH THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE RETIREES. OKAY. SO WE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO VERIFY THAT THE FUNDS ARE THERE AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO US ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION OR THE REGULAR. WELL, ARE YOU ABLE TO WILL YOU BE ABLE TO VOTE IT THROUGH ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION, OR WILL IT BE TWO MORE A WORK, A WORK SESSION, AND THEN THE REGULAR COUNCIL SESSION WOULD BE NEXT? NO, IT'S ON THE FIRST. WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE FIRST MEETING TO VOTE ON IT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ON THE WORK SESSION AND THEN ON THE REGULAR MEETING.

OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT WILL BE WAS THAT OCTOBER? SO THE FIFTH IS THE NEXT OCTOBER 5TH. IS THAT THE NEXT BOOKS? NO. WHAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION, MADAM CITY CLERK, OCTOBER 5TH IS THE NEXT REGULAR.

OKAY. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK DURING THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 5TH AND VERIFY THE FUNDS. COULD YOU VERIFY THE FUNDS VIA EMAIL SO WE CAN VOTE ON IT? OKAY, I'M SORRY, VIA EMAIL. WE'LL FOLLOW UP IF YOU CAN VERIFY THE FUNDS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. AND THEN WE CAN

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[XV.28. Council Discussion and Possible Action on 2027 Employee and Retiree Benefit Plan Renewals ]

THERE IS NO. THANK YOU. SURE. EXCUSE ME, MADAM MAYOR. IN RESPECT FOR TIME FOR THE ANALYTICS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME SITUATION WITH THIS. THIS IS. AND THIS IS THE EMPLOYEE, OUR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS OUR RETIREE BENEFIT BENEFIT PLAN RENEWALS. THIS WAS NOT BUDGETED FOR. AND I THINK IT WAS AN 8% FORECAST. AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 14 POINT SOMETHING, ALMOST 15%. SO WE YOU'RE GOING TO ASK US TO VERIFY THE FUNDS AS WELL. SO RESPECTFULLY, WE CAN DO THE SAME WITH THIS BECAUSE, JOSEPH, I DON'T THINK THAT IF ONE OF YOU ALL LOOK ON THE BOOK THAT'S ONLINE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE SHOWING.

SO IF YOU WILL ALLOW US, WE CAN VERIFY. WE CAN DO IT ALL. SO THAT'S FOR THIS NEXT ITEM FOR ITEM 28 AS WELL. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I WILL REOPEN THE FLOOR FOR COUNCIL COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I JUST HAVE IS HOW WAS HOW THAT HOW WILL THIS AFFECT AFFECT OPEN ENROLLMENT FOR THE EMPLOYEES? WHEN IS THAT? HE SAID WE NEED TO DO RETIREMENT PORTION. HE SAID IT DOESN'T. MADAM MAYOR, CAN I ASK I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A PORTION THAT WE COULD VOTE ON. IT WAS JUST THE RETIREMENT PORTION WHERE EITHER WE WERE GOING TO KEEP AETNA OR SWITCH TO THE OTHER CARRIER. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A FINANCIAL CHANGE TO THAT, BUT I THINK IT WAS SMALLER THAN THE OVERALL. LIKE THERE WERE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO VOTE ON RELATED TO THIS. SO COULD WE JUST TAKE IT PIECE BY PIECE RATHER THAN DELAYING THE WHOLE ITEM? BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD FROM WORK SESSION THAT THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE AND THE THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE IS THE PIECE THAT'S MOST PRESSING BECAUSE OF THE ENROLLMENT DATES AND ENROLLMENT DATES. SO COULD WE JUST REVISIT THAT ITEM 28 YEAH, THAT PIECE OF 28 BECAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE PIECES WITHIN. 28 OKAY, OKAY. SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE BEEN HERE, OUR INSURANCE BROKER, AND THEY'RE GOING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO JUST THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE? ARE WE NOT GOING TO GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. WE WE WERE GOING TO ASK FOR TWO APPROVALS THIS EVENING, ONE FOR THE MAIN MEDICAL PROGRAM. AND. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY GOING TO BE WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE TO THE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE. THE OVERALL INCREASE IS A LITTLE OVER 14%. BUT THEN THE WHAT WAS OUTSTANDING WAS WHETHER OR NOT

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THE INCREASE WITH THE CITY AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEES. OPTION TWO IS MOVING TOWARDS A, A, A BENCHMARKING BUDGET SO THAT THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS MOVE MORE IN LINE WITH THE MARKET.

SO IF YOU CAN MOVE TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE. THAT TOP SECTION THAT THAT THAT THERE WHERE IT'S THE 14.8. THE. FOURTH COLUMN. WELL, ACTUALLY THE FIFTH COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS TO THE RIGHT BIWEEKLY EMPLOYEE INCREASE, THAT'S WHAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE TO THE EMPLOYEES BIWEEKLY PAYCHECK. IF WE IF YOU SELECT IT, THE FIRST OPTION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND OPTION, SECOND ALTERNATIVE, IT'S MOVING THAT EMPLOYEE INCREASE MORE INTO THE BENCHMARK. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE AMOUNT COMING OUT OF THE EMPLOYEE'S PAYCHECK WOULD INCREASE. SO IT'S UP TO THE CITY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO JUST MAINTAIN THE PERCENTAGE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT EMPLOYEES ARE CURRENTLY PAYING, OR IF YOU WANT IT TO STRATEGICALLY MOVE TOWARD HIGHER TOWARDS THE BENCHMARK.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST DECISION. COUNCIL, ARE YOU OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO? COUNSELOR, ARE YOU PREPARED TO MAKE A OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. ONE OTHER QUESTION, AND THIS IS MORE FOR JOSEPH FINANCE. I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A 14%, 14.8% INCREASE, AND WE BUDGETED FOR AN 8% INCREASE. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENCE TO THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD TO GO IN AND FIND DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. HAVE WE AT LEAST IDENTIFIED THOSE LINE ITEMS, WHETHER THEY'RE PUBLIC FACING OR NOT. BUT HAVE WE IDENTIFIED THOSE LINE ITEMS WHERE THE ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE POINTS ARE GOING TO COME FROM? YES, I DID, BUT I DID IT USING THE BUDGET AND BUSINESS. AND SO EARLIER, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THAT'S THE ACCURATE BUDGET. BUT I DID IDENTIFY A LINE ITEMS WHERE THE FUNDS WOULD BE MOVED FROM. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT I'M USING THE RIGHT BUDGET JUST OFF OF ROUGHLY OFF OF YOUR HEAD. WHAT WAS THE OVERAGE THAT YOU HAD TO GO OUT AND FIND? FROM WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED, IT WAS ABOUT 3 MILLION. WELL, WAIT, BECAUSE IT SAYS 1,000,001.1 MILLION. WELL, I DID FOR ME, I DID EXTREME SCENARIO. SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE SOME LIKE WORST CASE SCENARIO. SO I KIND OF ESTIMATED HIGH VERSUS BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THE OPTIONS OR THE IMPACT OF THEM. I WAS LOOKING MORE, IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE, SO YOU WENT AND FOUND AN EXTRA $3 MILLION IN THE BUDGET. NO, I DIDN'T TOTAL COST. SO IF YOU GO TO MAYBE ONE MORE SLIDE UP. THIS ONE HERE. SO IF YOU DO THAT, THAT TOTAL COST, I TOOK THAT TO 10 MILLION INSTEAD OF THE 9.4 JUST IN CASE. GOT IT. OKAY. CONSIDERING THIS. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANY FAULT HERE, BUT JUST CONSIDERING IT WASN'T BUDGETED FOR AT THE 14.8 PERCENTAGE AND WE'VE HAD TO GO BACK INTO THE BUDGET TO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING, I DO THINK THE SECOND OPTION TO ADJUST CLOSER TO THE BENCHMARK IS WHERE WE'RE LEANING, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE TO FIND LESS MONEY IN THE BUDGET. OKAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR COUNCIL.

OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, TO THE PRESENTERS. OKAY.

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OKAY. AND EXCUSE ME. AND THE EMPLOYEES WERE ALREADY EXPECTING AN INCREASE BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET DYNAMICS. I WOULD THINK. SO. WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE AN OPEN ENROLLMENT ACTIVITY IN OCTOBER 26TH. IT'S TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED. SO AND WE'LL SEND OUT COMMUNICATIONS FOR THAT. AND WE SEND OUT INFORMATION FOR THAT. AND GENERALLY WE'LL HAVE A PASSIVE ENROLLMENT MEANING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF EMPLOYEES DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN FLEXIBLE SPENDING OR DEPENDENT CARE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY REENROLL. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BENEFIT FAIR WITH OUR CARRIERS THERE. BUT ONCE YOU MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WHAT THE NEW AMOUNTS WOULD BE. OKAY. AND MR. MILLER, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHEN YOU WENT TO GO DO YOUR RESEARCH, WHERE WERE SOME OF THE PLACES THAT YOU DON'T? I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET INTO THE DETAILS, BUT GIVE ME AN IDEA HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO FUND THIS. IT WAS REALLY DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC. SO THERE ARE SOME DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE, LET'S SAY THEY MIGHT HAVE A CAPITAL PLAN, BUT THE CAPITAL PLAN IS MAYBE OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. SO THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME ROOM WHERE THEY COULD MOVE ON FROM. BUT THEN SOME DEPARTMENTS, THE BUDGET WAS VERY TIGHT. YEAH. SO IT WAS REALLY DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC. I HAVE TO BREAK DOWN, BUT LIKE I SAID, I WAS SENDING IT OUT ONCE I HAD THE NUMBERS.

AND THEN FINALLY, MR. CITY ATTORNEY WOULD A MOTION APPROVING THE SECOND OPTION CONTINGENT UPON THE CITY FINDING THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO FUND THAT OPTION, IS THAT A MOTION THAT WOULD PASS LEGAL CHALLENGE, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK. IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, I THINK THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE IT FUNDED WHEN YOU ALL DO OPEN ENROLLMENT.

SO BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT BECAUSE OF THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EMPLOYEES, THEY'VE GOT TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY. AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? YEAH. SO YOU IT WHENEVER, IF THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN UP OPEN ENROLLMENT, I MEAN, YOU NEED TO SELECT YOUR OPTION AND THEN IT'LL, IT JUST LIKE MY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE LAST THING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU'LL HAVE TO CONFIRM THE FUNDS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND THOSE LINE ITEMS. OKAY, SO I'M JUST GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS MOTION. AND THEN IF IT'S NOT GREAT, WE'LL ADJUST IT.

BUT I MOVE AT THIS TIME TO ADOPT THE OPTION TWO THAT'S PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE CLOSER TO THE BENCHMARK COVERAGE TIER WITH THE OVERALL IMPACT TO EASTPOINTE AT $1,073,467 SECOND. SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY. WE HAD ANOTHER SECTION. IS THAT THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PIECE? SO THIS NEXT PIECE PERTAINS TO THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. AND THE DECISION POINTS WERE OPTION ONE. AND THIS IS FOR YOUR RETIREE COVERAGE WHICH THE THE CITY FUNDS A PORTION OF. BUT OPTION ONE WOULD BE TO RENEW WITH AETNA, WHO'S THE INCUMBENT CARRIER. AND THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT SUB OPTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL COULD LOOK AT, BUT OPTION A IS PROBABLY THE THE MORE LOGICAL ONE WHERE TYPICAL. IN THE PAST YOU'D SHARE ANY RENEWAL INCREASES OR DECREASES WITH PARTICIPANTS. AND THAT'S WHAT OPTION A IS. IT'S SHARING THE BASICALLY A $30 MONTHLY INCREASE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE RETIREES IN THE PLAN. SO THAT WOULD COST THE CITY AN ANNUAL BUDGET INCREASE OF 27,180. OPTION B WOULD BE WHERE THE CITY ABSORBED THE FULL INCREASE AT A HIGHER AMOUNT. EXCUSE ME. AN OPTION C WOULD BE WHERE THE RETIREE ABSORBED THE FULL INCREASE AND THE CITY WOULD CONTINUE WITH WHERE THEY'RE AT. OPTION TWO IS TO MOVE TO ANTHEM, WHICH WOULD BE A DIFFERENT VENDOR. AND THEY

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MADAM MAYOR. I HAVE A VERY NUANCED QUESTION. LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET IT OUT. WE ARE ALSO BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR THE RETIREES THAT WILL DON'T MAKE ME QUOTE THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THEM. ASSUMING THAT WE WANTED TO CONSIDER OPTION ONE A OR OPTION ONE C, I HOPE YOU'RE FOLLOWING ME. WOULD WE COULD IT POTENTIALLY RESULT IN A NET NEUTRAL, LIKE A. NO CHANGE TO THE RETIREES EXPERIENCE OF THEIR MONEY? DOES THAT MAKE. DOES MY DOES MY QUESTION MAKE SENSE? I THINK SO. I THINK THAT I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS CRUNCHED. I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WILL SAY THAT IN THE LAST PRESENTATION I GAVE YOU GUYS A LIST OF THE INCREASES, AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL IS PREDISPOSED TO GIVING THE INCREASE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, MANDATED, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE WENT WITH THE OPTION TO. FUND THE, THE, THE ABSORB, RATHER THE $30 COST, THAT THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. BUT I CAN'T IN THE TOP OF MY HEAD SAY THAT THE 2% INCREASE WOULD RESULT. I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE I THINK THE 2% INCREASE WOULD BE MORE THAN THE $30.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MY QUESTION. RIGHT. SO IF AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE GIVING THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, WOULD IT BE AN OPTION FOR US TO CHOOSE OPTIONS ONE C THAT WOULD. I DON'T WANT TO FINISH THAT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT. I THINK THAT IT WOULD I THINK THAT IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. I WILL SAY THAT THE RETIREES ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, $30 A MONTH IS I DON'T THINK IT'S A MAJOR AMOUNT. BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RETIREES.

RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT THE THE LEVEL OF DISRUPTION TO THAT IT WOULD CAUSE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER CARRIER, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE, YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE US THE FIRST YEAR THEY GAVE US A GREAT DEAL, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. LIKE THE SECOND AND THIRD YEAR. I THINK THAT. I THINK THAT THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. I MEAN, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. HE WANTS TO ADD CAN I ADD ONE THING. IT WOULD BE A OPTION. A WOULD BE THE $15 INCREASE TO THE THE PARTICIPANTS. BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT

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RIGHT, RIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID OPTION TWO ALTOGETHER WITH THE DISRUPTION WITH OPTION ONE, THOUGH, I AM CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY. YEAH. MANAGE THE INCREASES.

MANAGED INCREASES. YES. I THINK THAT VARIES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER WE WE ABSORB ABSORB THE COST. MOST OF THE TIME I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT MIXED. OFTEN THE CITY HAS ABSORBED THE INCREASES. BUT AGAIN, IN THIS KIND OF DAY AND AGE WHERE IT'S IN THE NEWS, A LOT OF HEALTH CARE, INFLATION AND STUFF, IT'S ALMOST EXPECTED THAT PEOPLE'S HEALTH CARE COSTS ARE GOING TO GO UP SOMEWHAT. BUT ONE THING THAT THE THE CITY COUNCIL PROBABLY AT SOME POINT NEEDS TO CONSIDER IS KIND OF THE OVERALL FUNDING OF RETIREE BENEFITS IN GENERAL, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD DIFFICULTY GOING BACK TO ACTUALLY FINDING SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT LAYS OUT WHAT WAS THE INTENT ORIGINALLY. SO AS THESE COSTS OF THESE PROGRAMS ESCALATE, YOU, IF YOU CONTINUE KIND OF DOING PASSING ON THOSE INCREASES, YOU JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE BACKING AS TO SHOULD WE BE DOING THAT OR SHOULDN'T WE BE DOING THAT? BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE. SO IT HASN'T BEEN TOTALLY CONSISTENT. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS WHERE THE CITY HAS ABSORBED THE FULL INCREASE, AND THERE HAS BEEN OTHER TIMES WHERE THE INCREASE HAS BEEN SHARED. TYPICALLY YOU SEE A SHARING, YEAH. AND I THINK I'M SORRY YOU CAN RESPOND TO THAT. AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL, YOU'RE UP AFTER I WAS GOING TO SAY, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I THINK WE'VE ONLY INCREASED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST TEN YEARS. SO WE THE CITY HAS ABSORBED THE COST FOR A LOT OF THE TIME. SORRY. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. YES. MY QUESTION JUST GOES BACK TO, AGAIN, FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR EITHER THE OPTION FOR OPTION ONE, A OR B IF THE CITY WERE TO ABSORB FULL INCREASE OR THE 50, 50, 50 SPLIT. AND MAYBE THAT'S A JOSEPH FINANCE JOSEPH QUESTION. I CAN ADD IT. I CAN DO THE CALCULATION. THAT WOULD BE EASIER TO FIND ANY OTHER AMOUNTS, BUT I DON'T MIND DOING THE WORK UP FOR IT. I ALREADY HAVE THE TEMPLATE LAID OUT SO WELL. SO ARE WE SAYING THAT THIS WASN'T BUDGETED FOR AND YOU WOULD GO OUT AND FIND BUDGET FOR THESE ITEMS? OR I KNEW THE RETIREES COULD BE A PORTION OF IT, WHICH IS KIND OF WHY I ESTIMATED HIGH ON THAT OTHER ONE. JUST SO IF I NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS, I COULD JUST ALLOCATE IT IN THERE. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT, JUST DETAIL FOR RETIREES, I WOULD HAVE TO JUST BUILD THE TEMPLATE. GOT IT. I MEAN, I PERSONALLY HAVE A, AN APPETITE TO MINIMIZE INCREASE TO OUR SENIORS RETIREES. SO OPTION C WOULD BE OUT FOR ME AND I WOULD HAVE APPETITE FOR OPTION A OR B. THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO SHE'S FINE. I'M SORRY FOR THE GENTLEMAN RIGHT THERE. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT AN ANALYSIS OR SOMETHING ABOUT HISTORICAL VERSUS WHAT WE'RE DECIDING TO DO NOW. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU YOUR COMPANY PROVIDES? I MEAN, HOW DID YOU MENTIONED IT? SO I'M KIND OF INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS OR WHAT. IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PRICING, I APOLOGIZE. WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR DECK. I WAS JUST LOOKING BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE IT TO KIND OF SHOW A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. IT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER IN SOME MATERIALS TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T HAVE IT HERE, BUT IT HAS BEEN UP AND DOWN. WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER INCREASES THAT ARE DRIVEN BY THE MEDICARE CMS,

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THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID. I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH OPTION ONE. I KNOW WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. SO. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED WITH OPTION ONE. ON OUR MEDICAID ADVANTAGE DECISION.

OKAY. YES. OH, SO SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD SAY A. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE CONSENSUS EMOTIONAL OPTION ONE. GO AHEAD. OH YEAH. YEAH. SO OPTION ONE. YEAH. SO SO OPTION ONE A WOULD BE MY CHOICE. ALRIGHT. THAT WAS A MOTION FOR OPTION ONE. A IS THERE A SECOND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. I ANY DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. OKAY. I'M IN FOR DISCUSSION. MY APOLOGIES. I'M SORRY. WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH TONIGHT ON THIS. SO YOU ARE IT'S OKAY. WE'RE JUST GOING TO CLEAR IT UP RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. SO THE DISCUSSION ON OPTION A GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN ATKINS. SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR OPTION AND I DO GET IT. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S A DIFFICULT PILL TO SWALLOW. BUT TO COUNCILMEMBER HEMMING'S POINT, WHEN I WE STARTED DISCUSSING THIS TONIGHT, I DID SEE CORRELATION TO OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION AROUND COLA, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T PERTAIN TO ALL OF THE RETIREES, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST FOR THOSE UNDER THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, IT IS DIFFICULT. AND AFFORDABILITY IS THE THEME ACROSS THE ENTIRE NATION HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, HEALTHCARE AFFORDABILITY, GAS AND FOOD AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND IT'S A DIFFICULT PILL TO SWALLOW. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AFFORD IT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW LAST YEAR WE ABSORBED IT ALL. AND TO MISS ABBOTT'S POINT, SHE SAID SHE'S ONLY RECALLED TWICE IN THE TEN YEARS THAT SHE'S BEEN HERE. AND I THINK MR. MILLER WAS STATING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET. SO IT IS DIFFICULT. AND SO THESE ARE THE ONLY THESE ARE THE ONLY THREE OPTIONS. YOU DIDN'T THINK OF DIFFERENT SPLITS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE A PRESENTATION OF A 5050 SPLIT.

YOU DIDN'T THINK OF DIFFERENT SPLITS THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO THIS PARTICULAR OPTION. I GET IT THAT SENIORS WOULD LIKE TO STAY WITH THEIR PROVIDER UNDER AETNA. YES. TWO POINTS TO THAT. WE LOOKED AT PLAN DESIGN CHANGES FIRST TO SEE DOES IT MAKE SENSE. ARE THERE ANY AREAS OF THIS PLAN THAT WE COULD ALTER? AND WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, INCLUDING GLP ONE, WHICH ARE NOW ANOTHER FACTOR DRIVING UP COSTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE FUNDED UNDER THESE PROGRAMS. AND WE LOOKED AT THE CLAIMS HISTORY, EXACTLY WHAT TYPES OF CLAIMS ARE UNDER THIS PLAN FROM YOUR PARTICIPANTS AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THEM. AND WE MADE THE DECISION THAT IT WAS IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY A TAKEAWAY TO TOO MANY PEOPLE TO ALTER THE PLAN DESIGN. SO IT'S A VERY BASIC PLAN. IT'S NOT AN EXCESSIVELY RICH PLAN. IT'S NOT A BAD PLAN. SO IT'S REALLY RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. SO WE HAD TO RULE OUT PLAN CHANGES. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF YOU WERE TO SAY, WELL, WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO GET THAT $15 DOWN TO $10 AND WE WOULD APPROVE THAT. YES, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY ADJUST THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS. THE CITY WOULD CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT MORE

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NOT THAT QUICK, BUT IT WOULD GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT IT WOULD LOWER THAT PREMIUM. SO AGAIN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CONTRIBUTION CHANGES THAT YOU CAN MAKE TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT SCALE. THESE WERE JUST A COUPLE OF MORE SIMPLE OR OPTIONS. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE PICK AN AMOUNT THAT YOU FEEL THAT RETIREES WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH BETTER THAN $15, WE CAN JUST SHIFT THAT WEIGHT AND THE CITY CAN FILL IN THE ADDITIONAL COST OF THAT. NOW, TO DO THAT, WE CAN GIVE YOU ACCURATE NUMBERS BACK AND SUCH. WE COULD DO THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. WE JUST CAN'T DO IT IN MY HEAD TONIGHT HERE. SO AND THAT WOULD DELAY. SO I'M NOT SURE THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A VOTE. SO WE MIGHT KIND OF MISS OUR WINDOW. NO I THINK THAT THE COMMUNICATION PIECE IS VERY IMPORTANT. I MEAN THIS NEEDS TO GO OUT. YOU NEED YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IT IS IT IS. AND SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT. BUT I THINK LAST YEAR WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT BREAKDOWNS, NOT JUST 5050. I THINK WE LOOKED AT 40, 60. WE LOOKED AT SOME 30, 70, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. BUT THAT WAS JUST REALLY THE QUESTION BECAUSE IT IT IS GOING UP EVERYWHERE. AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE ABSORBED, ABSORBED, ABSORBED, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE BUDGET CAN, YOU KNOW, WITHSTAND IF WE CONTINUE TO ABSORB. AND ALSO JUST MAKING IT PALATABLE FOR THE RETIREES AS WELL. AND JUST A BALANCE. SO. WELL, AGAIN, IF, IF YOU CAN ALL VOTE ON A. I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN. SO I'LL, I'LL EXTRACT. YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO PLAY WITH THE MATH. I THINK THAT WE HAVE WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED. SO THANK YOU.

I YIELD. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR OPTION ONE A AND OH ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED OPTION THAT THE MOTION PASSES. GREAT. THANK YOU ALL. ALRIGHT. SORRY SORRY.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 29, 29 AND 30. MOVED TO. 31. I THOUGHT WE HAD

[XV.31. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Vendors Sumter Local Government Consulting; CPS HR Consulting; and Development Associates, LLC, RFQ 2026-1929; for an Executive Search and Recruitment Services for Local Government Leadership ]

ADDITIONAL COSTS WOULD BE TRAVEL EXPENSES FOR THE FINAL PEOPLE. IF WE'RE FLYING ANYONE IN FROM OUT OF TOWN. SO THAT IS THE OVERALL PRICING. ONE FIRM DOES OFFER FLAT FEE FLAT FEE, BUT THAT THAT IS 2021 000 PLUS SOME ADDITIONAL EXTERNAL COSTS IF WE CHOSE THEM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MITCHELL. YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT. DID I HEAR THIS CORRECTLY? DID YOU SAY 27 K

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ALL RIGHT, I, I HAVE A COMMENT. COUNCIL WOMAN. YES. AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST NOTE THAT ALTHOUGH ALTHOUGH WE'RE DOING A NATIONAL SEARCH, I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE IN GEORGIA THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE OUR TOP PRIORITY. THEY'RE ALSO RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE THAT. COULD ALSO APPLY FOR SOME OF THESE JOBS. I'M NOT REALLY. I HAD THE CHARTER SECTION PULLED UP, BUT AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN UTILIZING ALL OF THE ORGANS POSSIBLE TO PUTTING THESE JOB ANNOUNCEMENTS OUT THERE, JUST TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET LOCALLY THROUGH GMA, THROUGH THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION, LINKEDIN. I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS A LINKEDIN PAGE. SO I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WHEN WE LOOK NATIONALLY, WE HAVE THE EXPERIENCE RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. AND THAT EXPERIENCE MIGHT BE RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE OR THE METRO ATLANTA AREA. SO I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD AND KEEP THAT IN MIND. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT. THAT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS AND CAN WE EVER UNDERSTAND? IN SPEAKING OF COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN RODGERS'S QUESTION OF THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, LIKE THE RATIO OF LIKE THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE THAT WE EMPLOY WITHIN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE VERSUS WHAT WE THE OTHER EMPLOYEES, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, FROM HR, I THINK IT'S ROUGHLY 500. SO IT'S LIKE 98%. IT'S LIKE HALF, MORE THAN HALF. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT NOW, BUT WE JUST KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY AT THIS POINT TO COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN RODGERS POINT. SO I'LL LEAVE IT. COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL. SO I WANTED TO SAY MAYBE TWO THINGS AND THEN MAKE THE MOTION. I THINK PREVIOUSLY IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT AS FAR AS A FUNDING SOURCE, THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE FUNDING FROM THESE SALARIES THAT WE HAVE NOT YET EMPLOYED THESE POSITIONS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND FIND THESE PARTICULAR POSITIONS. SO THE FUNDING WAS THERE JUST TO GET CONFIRMATION ON THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IN REGARDS TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN RODGERS AND THE MAYOR IS SAYING, THERE IS A FIRM HERE IN GEORGIA, I BELIEVE, IN ALPHARETTA, THAT SPECIALIZES IN A LOT OF THEIR

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BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE APPLICANTS AND ALL THAT STUFF WHEN WE OR THE RESUME, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON I WAS ASKING. WELL, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PACKET. I, I DO HAVE COPIES THAT THAT I HAD PROVIDED. I CAN MAKE SURE YOU ALL GET THEM. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THE MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 32. COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CITY OF

[XV.32. Council Discussion and Possible Action on City of East Point Board/Commission on Aging ]

THIS COMMISSION WILL FOCUS ON AREAS INCLUDING TRANSPORTATION AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, SANITATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, RECREATION, HOUSING, SOCIAL SUPPORT SERVICES, AND OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS AFFECTING OUR SENIORS. IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN AVENUE FOR RESIDENTS TO BRING ISSUES FORWARD AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS COMMISSION CAN ALSO HELP THE CITY IDENTIFY PARTNERSHIP RESOURCES AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD SUPPORT SENIOR PROGRAMS, WITHOUT PLACING THE ENTIRE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND. I BELIEVE THIS ORDINANCE PROVIDES AN IMPORTANT FRAMEWORK FOR ENSURING THAT EACH THAT. EXCUSE ME, ENSURING THAT THE NEEDS OF OUR SENIOR RESIDENTS REMAIN A CONSISTENT PART OF THE CITY'S PLANNING AND POLICY DISCUSSION. SO AT THIS TIME, I MOVE THAT WE WAIVE THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF EAST POINT COMMISSION ON AGING AND PROCEED WITH CONSIDERATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I MOVE THAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ADOPT THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF EAST POINT COMMISSION ON AGING, AS PRESENTED AND AUTHORIZED AND AUTHORIZED. THE APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THIS ORDINANCE. SECOND DISCUSSION. YOU HAVE A SECOND. COUNCILMAN ATKINS. YES.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCILMAN MITCHELL, IN THE WORK SESSION, WHEN YOU WERE GOING OVER THE MAKEUP OF THE THE COMMISSION, THERE WERE YOU HAD PRESENTED THAT THERE WOULD BE A TEN MEMBER BODY. AND I WAS MENTIONING THAT MANY TIMES. IT'S AN ODD NUMBER SO THAT IT MAKES IT TIE PROOF. AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD CONSIDERED THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT YOU HAD PRESENTED, OR IF YOU'RE STILL PRESENTING THE TEN MEMBER BOARD. I'VE THOUGHT

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COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING IS ALSO IN FOR DISCUSSION. YEAH. MAY I TO THE PRESENTER, MADAM MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN MITCHELL, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAYOR APPOINTS TWO MEMBERS. SO WOULD ONE OF THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEES BE THE EX OFFICIO MEMBER WHO IS IS NON-VOTING? YES. CORRECT. OKAY. SO IF THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS I KNOW THAT THERE ARE QUALIFICATIONS LIKE GERONTOLOGY, HEALTH CARE, STUFF LIKE THAT. HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO VET THOSE CREDENTIALS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE RIGHT REPRESENTATION IS ON THE BOARD TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE DISCERNMENT OF THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, KIND OF LIKE ALL OF OUR BOARDS. WE HAVE TWO EVEN IF THAT'S NOT OUR SPECIALTY OR SAY, WE MIGHT NOT KNOW AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT ABOUT A SUBJECT MATTER, WE GO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS WE CAN. SO I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. WOULD YOU CONSIDER A PROCESS? AND MAYBE IT'S NOT FOR THIS ORDINANCE DISCUSSION, BUT AT A LATER DATE, WOULD YOU CONSIDER A PROCESS WHERE WE COULD GET APPLICANTS FROM THE COMMUNITY? FOR EXAMPLE, THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE INTERESTED IN THIS COMMISSION, AND I MIGHT NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE. BUT IF WE DO SOME SORT OF LIKE INTENTIONAL OUTREACH FOR THIS BOARD AND THEN WE REVIEW APPLICATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE MAY BE ABLE TO FILL THE BOARD WITH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPERTISE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. SO JUST CURIOUS IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER SOME PROCESS TO LIKE RECRUIT PEOPLE. AND THEN COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER A SUITE OF APPLICATIONS. YEAH.

THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE JUST OVERALL A GOOD IDEA. I'M NOT SURE WHAT QUALIFICATIONS SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST MAKING IT TO 90 MIGHT QUALIFY THEM TO BE ON THE BOARD.

I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE CHOCK FULL OF WISDOM. SO BUT YES, I THINK THAT IS JUST MOVING FORWARD. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. CONCERNING ALL BOARDS, I BELIEVE I YIELD, MADAM MAYOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. ROGER. TO SAY, A LOT OF THESE VOLUNTEER AND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE. WHO WANTS TO BE A PART AND INVOLVED IN THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE? I THINK THAT IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA, IT'S JUST BASED UPON PEOPLE WILLING TO DO THE WORK AND VOLUNTEER. SO I THINK THAT THEY CONTACT US. I KNOW I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING THIS BOARD, BUT I THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE JUST THE COMMITMENT AND WHAT THEY BRING. SOME PEOPLE HAVE THE TIME TO BRING. SOME PEOPLE DO HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE, SO IT'S JUST THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE FOR ME. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE HAD DISCUSSION. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, MADAM MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE

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TO ADD AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER TO BE APPOINTED BY AD AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER. SO, SO I JUST RESTATE THE MOTION. YES. SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH THE CITY OF EASTPOINTE COMMISSION ON AGING. WITH THE AMENDMENT TO. MAKE ONE OF THE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, EX OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, MEANING A NON-VOTING MEMBER, AND TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE THE AFOREMENTIONED CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE. YES, TO THE ORDINANCE. THANKS. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS YES, I HAVE 33, YES I DO. I HAVE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[XV.33. Council Discussion and Possible Action on the City of East Point Ordinance to Establish a Municipal Utility Advisory Commission ]

THE COMMISSION WAS DISCUSSED DURING A CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION, INCLUDING WHETHER IT WAS STILL ACTIVE. FEBRUARY 27TH, 2025 COUNCIL MADE A DOCUMENTED APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMISSION SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN 25 AND 26 ADDITIONAL APPOINTMENTS WERE MADE AND DISCUSSIONS CONTINUED REGARDING REACTIVATING THE COMMISSION ON JUNE 15TH. THE NEED CAME ABOUT FOR IMPLEMENTING AN ORDINANCE WAS RAISED PUBLICLY BECAUSE, ALTHOUGH THE CHARTER CREATED THE COMMISSION, NO ORDINANCE HAD FORMERLY BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR ITS OPERATING FRAMEWORK. SO THIS IS THE ORDINANCE WHICH ESTABLISHES THE FRAMEWORK OF THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION, AND IT MIRRORS OUR CHARTER. IT MIRRORS OUR CHARTER. SO THAT IS WHY THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. IF WE WANT TO TAKE THIS BACK TO A WORK SESSION, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT OR NOT, BUT THAT IS WHY THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA, BECAUSE WE NEEDED THE ORDINANCE SO THAT IT MIRRORED WHAT WAS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS BACK IN 2007. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HEMMING AND THEN COUNCILMAN ATKINS. MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. YES, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE AS COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN ROGERS JUST JUST JUST STATED, THERE IS SECTION SECTION 4-108 OF THE EXISTING CHARTER. AND AS SHE SAID, THIS ORDINANCE MIRRORS THIS MIRRORS THE LANGUAGE. SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY THAT THE ORDER OF HIERARCHY WORKS IS THAT CHARTERS SUPERSEDE ORDINANCES? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE RATIONALE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE

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ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO WE'RE ON THE ITEM ABOUT THE UTILITY COMMISSION AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS THAT WE WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE EASIER TO AMEND AN ORDINANCE, AND THIS WOULD BE THE RATIONALE TO SUPPORT PASSING AN ORDINANCE, EVEN THOUGH THE CHARTER ALREADY ESTABLISHES THIS BOARD. MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU CAN DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH AND KNOW THAT THE BOARD HAS MET PREVIOUSLY AND THINGS LIKE THAT BY US DOING THIS NEW ORDINANCE. WOULD I HAVE TO REAPPOINT MY APPOINTEE AND THEN HAVE THEM TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE AGAIN? SO I THINK IT'S CHROMATIN. I THINK IT'S A FORMALITY. THE CHARTER PROVIDES THAT THE COMMISSION SHALL BE ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE. AND SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE COMMISSION. AND SO I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT IN THE CHARTER PROVISION, IT PROVIDES THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SHALL BE APPOINTED WITHIN SO MANY DAYS OF THE COMMISSION BE ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU ESTABLISH IT BY ORDINANCE, REAPPOINT RE, YOU KNOW, REDO THAT PORTION WHERE YOU APPOINT IT SO YOU CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE. NOW WITH THE ORDINANCE. IT IS DUPLICATIVE AND REDUNDANT BECAUSE THE CHARTER AND THE ORDINANCE READ EXACTLY THE SAME.

BUT FOR THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER PROVISION THAT SAYS YOU SHALL ESTABLISH THIS COMMISSION BY ORDINANCE, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. AND I WILL ALSO ADD THAT ALL YOUR OTHER BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES, THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT IN THE CHARTER. SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT WAS DONE WHEN IT WAS DONE PREDATES ME. BUT ALL YOUR OTHER BOARDS, COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS EXIST AND LIVE IN YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AND NOT IN YOUR CHARTER. OKAY, I GUESS I'M VERY CONFUSED, BECAUSE IF THE CHARTER SUPERSEDES AN ORDINANCE, SECTION 4-107 IS WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE BOARDS AND AUTHORITIES SHOULD BE CREATED BY ORDINANCE, AND THEN SECTION 4-108 SEEMS TO SUGGEST THAT THE LEGISLATIVE BODY THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT FOR AN ORDINANCE, SO THEY CREATED IT IN THE CHARTER, WHICH IS A HIGHER ORDER LAW

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ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN ROGERS. YES, I'D LIKE TO. IS ANYONE ELSE IN FOR DISCUSSION? ARE YOU IN? IS ANYONE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE EASTPOINTE ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A MUNICIPAL UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION WITH THE LANGUAGE. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, COULD YOU COME BACK WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT THE CURRENT MEMBERS WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT THE CURRENT MEMBERS WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE? YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. DO WE NEED TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING FIRST? YES, SINCE IT'S AN ORDINANCE. SO JUST ADD THAT TO YOUR MOTION MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READ. AND YES MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST MEETING AND APPROVE. MOTION. I APOLOGIZE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING AND APPROVE THE EASTPOINTE ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A MUNICIPAL UTILITY ADVISORY COMMISSION WITH. WITH APPOINTEES THAT ARE CURRENTLY SERVING SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. AND I JUST HAVE THAT ONE QUESTION. THAT ONE. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILMAN FRIEDLY, THANK YOU, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. DOES AN ORDINANCE HAVE TO BE IN ITS FINAL FORM WHEN IT'S VOTED ON, OR CAN WE? YEAH, LET ME LOOK THAT UP. I THINK YOU'RE OKAY TO AMEND IT.

LET'S SEE. FORM OF LEGISLATION A SECTION 2-207. SUBSECTION B. EVERY PROPOSED ORDINANCE SHALL BE INTRODUCED IN WRITING AND IN THE FORM REQUIRED FOR FINAL ADOPTION. SO I DON'T THINK IT REQUIRES THAT IT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM, BUT IT AT LEAST SHOULD BE IN WRITING IN THE FORMAT FOR YOUR FINAL ADOPTION, WHICH IS PROBABLY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SECOND READING. I THINK YOU'RE FINE TO APPROVE IT WITH THE LIMITED CHANGE. SO THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T SAY ITS FINAL FORM. IT SAYS IT SHOULD BE IN THE FORM REQUIRED FOR FINAL ADOPTION. SO FINAL, I THINK MODIFIES THE WORD ADOPTION, NOT FORM. OKAY. YOU READY? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. CITY

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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WHERE ARE WE NOW? YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM. 34. YES. AND ITEM 34 IS JUST A

[XV.34. Council Discussion and Possible Action on Direct Report Progressive Discipline Plan ]

JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS. ONE, A HARD COPY OF THE HANDBOOK, AS YOU REQUESTED, IS IN YOUR MAILBOX. IT'S BEEN THERE. SO YOU HAVE THAT. SECONDLY, A COPY OF THE HANDBOOK HAS BEEN EMAILED TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. SO YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE THE DRAFT HANDBOOK, NOT THE CURRENT ONE. THIRDLY, I CERTAINLY CAN REVIEW IT, BUT IN GOING OVER THE AGENDA EARLIER WITH ATTORNEY MITCHELL IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO RECOGNIZE THAT JUDGES, WHICH IS A DIRECT REPORT OF YOU CANNOT BE DISCIPLINED OUTSIDE OF TITLE 36 IN THE STATE CODE. AND SO PROVIDED THERE'S ANY LANGUAGE THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE STATE LAW, IT WOULDN'T BE ACCEPTABLE.

SAME FOR LAWYERS. WE ARE GOVERNED BY THE STATE BAR. SO YOU CAN HIRE AS YOU CAN FIRE US.

SO I WILL BE LOOKING AT IT WITH THE EYE THAT IT IS INDEED COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE LAW.

ON HOW ATTORNEYS, JUDGES OR ATTORNEYS CAN BE DISCIPLINED. OKAY, OKAY. JUST LOOKING FOR INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT OUR LOCAL, OTHER LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES DOING. SO IF YES, AND I'D LIKE COUNCIL SUPPORT ON THAT FOR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK. IT'S REALLY NO RUSH. BUT THAT HAS BEEN A LONG DISCUSSION IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMITTEE MEETING. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YES, YES. IS NOVEMBER OKAY? IT'S UP TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH OR HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU. DO YOU WANT TO DO NOVEMBER? IF WE CAN DO THE FIRST OR THIRD MEETING IN NOVEMBER WILL BE PREFERRED. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE WANT TO GO OVER IT IN A WORK SESSION FIRST? SO THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THEN OCTOBER 12TH.

OKAY. NOVEMBER 9TH, I, I SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL. I WON'T BE HERE ON THAT DAY. OKAY. WHICH IS THE WORK SESSION FOR NOVEMBER, RIGHT? RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL WE WERE ON A VOTE. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES IN. WE WILL ADD ITEM NUMBER 34 TO THE OCTOBER 12TH WORK SESSION. OKAY. YES. AND NOW WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 35, COUNSEL. OH WE MOVED THAT TO OCTOBER 12TH AS WELL. COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE ANY. I'M SORRY. ACTING DEPUTY MANAGER MISS TYLER, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR SOMETHING ON THE

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OKAY. GO AHEAD. PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. OKAY. PERSONNEL. COUNSEL. WHEN MARK ROGERS HAS ONE. PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. COUNCILMAN ATKINS HAS ONE. PERSONNEL. COUNCILWOMAN CALDWELL ONE. PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. ARE THERE ANY ITEM? OTHER ITEMS? NO. LEGAL PERSONNEL. NOTHING. OH, YES. YES. OH, OKAY. ARE YOU READY FOR PERSONNEL? TEN LITIGATION, ONE REAL ESTATE. WOW. ONE MORE. TO I DO. YES, I DO HAVE A PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE. TEN PERSONNEL. ONE REAL ESTATE AND THEN TEN LEGAL. SHE GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. JUST BE MINE. WHY ARE YOU LEAVING US? BECAUSE. WHAT? THE LITIGATION. WHO? OH, NO, WE'RE NOT. NOT IF YOU LEAVE. THAT'S A CORRECTION. WE HAVE FIVE PERSONNEL, TEN LEGAL AND ONE REAL ESTATE.

MADAM MAYOR. YES? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR FIVE PERSONNEL, TEN LITIGATION AND ONE REAL ESTATE. SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION? I GOT IT WRONG, MADAM MAYOR. I COUNTED NINE PERSONNEL, I COUNTED. MISS TYLER HAS ONE. COUNCILMAN CALDWELL HAS ONE. COUNCILMAN MARTIN ROGERS HAS ONE, I HAVE ONE, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS FOUR. AND THEN THE MAYOR HAS ONE. THAT IS NINE. ALRIGHT, SO IT WASN'T 10 OR 5. I'LL AMEND. OKAY? OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

[XVI. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

OKAY. SECOND STANDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE

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